Speaker 1: Oh bred of des are, Hello, and welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: This is the Cult of Conspiracy, and my name is Jonathan,
Speaker 2: I'm Jacob and Jacob we're getting down with some aliens
Speaker 2: in the great state of Texas. Are we?
Speaker 3: We are? We are?
Speaker 4: So listen, let's talk about this now.
Speaker 3: You currently live in the great lone Star state, right,
Speaker 3: I live in the state right close to it, neighbors
Speaker 3: some might call it. And you know, we always hear
Speaker 3: about these alien and UFO and UAP exposures and experiences
Speaker 3: and sightings, typically from the desert right where there's not
Speaker 3: a lot of light pollution, possibly near a military base
Speaker 3: of some type.
Speaker 4: And that's why the conversation comes up of whether this.
Speaker 3: Was a Project dot dot dot, some sort of a
Speaker 3: you know, an aircraft that hasn't been released to the
Speaker 3: publics just yet nobody knows, like, for instance, the stealth Bomber,
Speaker 3: right the Angry Driedo as some of my veteran brothers
Speaker 3: might call it. No one knew we had that for
Speaker 3: like twenty years of test flights until it came out.
Speaker 3: So anybody that saw that thing streaking across the sky
Speaker 3: thought that they were seeing a UFO and they called
Speaker 3: it in all these things later to be discovered the
Speaker 3: no no, that was a new stealth bomber that we
Speaker 3: were testing that nobody knew about yet. So, like you
Speaker 3: hear these stories and that kind of checks out right, Okay,
Speaker 3: So what if I told you you being you of
Speaker 3: all people, though the person with the mind as open
Speaker 3: as the mind could be. What if I told you
Speaker 3: that about thirty miles outside of Dallas there was a
Speaker 3: UFO crash with a body that got buried in the
Speaker 3: local cemetery in the eighteen hundreds, but in the nineteen hundreds,
Speaker 3: the grave was exhumed, the body was taken, the entire
Speaker 3: story was scrubbed except for the local town legends and
Speaker 3: the markers with the engravings on them.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, where about in the nineteen hundreds, like early mid.
Speaker 3: Late nineteen hundreds, brother, oh, eighteen hundreds. I'm going to
Speaker 3: do it a diss justice just talking about it from memory.
Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and let me share the screen of
Speaker 3: this time and for any good cult member that is
Speaker 3: hearing this, and it's like, wait, what, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: this isn't just some crazy story off of a newspaper clipping.
Speaker 3: They sain't no, tabloids. We got local eyewitness sources. We
Speaker 3: have a judge that had to crash into his windmill.
Speaker 3: We had the local paper correspondent. They wrote an entire
Speaker 3: story on this and somehow got blasted as a hoax
Speaker 3: because he was a known prankster. He was a prankster
Speaker 3: in his real life, not in his writing life. As
Speaker 3: a matter of fact, if this was a hoax, this
Speaker 3: was the only hoax he ever wrote about ever. But
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Speaker 3: So with that being said, I'm gonna have a quick
Speaker 3: YouTube video that's going to give an overarching breakdown of it.
Speaker 3: Then we're going to read some articles, some eyewitness testimonies,
Speaker 3: and the testimony of those that claim that this whole
Speaker 3: thing is a hoax. So now, good cult members, buckle
Speaker 3: up and let's dive into the Aurora, Texas UFO siding
Speaker 3: of eighteen ninety seven. Are you ready?
Speaker 2: I'm ready, Frand yes, I'm.
Speaker 3: So glad you said that too. All right, let's do it.
Speaker 6: In recent history, there have been stories of alien spacecraft
Speaker 6: crashing from mer skies. The crash near of Roswell, New Mexico,
Speaker 6: in nineteen forty seven, the Acron shake craft reported to
Speaker 6: have crashed in the woods near Pytsburgh, Pennsylvania in nineteen
Speaker 6: sixty five. Even the now infamous Phoenix Lights seeing over Phoenix,
Speaker 6: Arizona in nineteen ninety seven. But what about before those
Speaker 6: fifty years earlier? In eighteen ninety seven, a televery reported
Speaker 6: UFO crash came to life in north central Texas. Yeah,
Speaker 6: in nineteen sixty five.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to do that one to pause it
Speaker 3: on that marker, So I'm gonna see if I can
Speaker 3: zoom in on this. Read this marker, big doll, because
Speaker 3: this is the cemetery where they buried the body from
Speaker 3: the victim. Right here it says located in the cemetery
Speaker 3: gravestone of the infant Nilio. I don't know. This is
Speaker 3: one of the only markers that still stand of the
Speaker 3: entire incident. Start to finish, dude.
Speaker 2: Turn the close captioning off there at the bottom, and
Speaker 2: it says Aurora Cemetery. The oldest known graves here, dating
Speaker 2: from as early as the eighteen sixties, are those of
Speaker 2: the Randall and Rowlitt families. Finnis Dudley Bowchamp from eighteen
Speaker 2: twenty five to eighteen ninety three. It looks like a
Speaker 2: Confederate veteran from Mississippi donated the three acre site to
Speaker 2: the newly formed Aurora Lodge number four hundred and seventy
Speaker 2: nine in eighteen seventy seven.
Speaker 3: For many years, the lodge of the Freemasons. By the way,
Speaker 3: that's a four letter chart, the free and accepted. So
Speaker 3: about more ties to Masonic orders, cemeteries, things and stuff.
Speaker 4: But beside all of that, pick up right here says located.
Speaker 3: Oh, I was just.
Speaker 2: Got let me read the rest of that because I'm interested.
Speaker 2: So it says it was donated. For many years, this
Speaker 2: community burial ground was known as the Masonic Cemetery. Beauchamp
Speaker 2: or Beechump, however you say it. His wife, his wife Caroline,
Speaker 2: and others in their family are buried here. An epidemic
Speaker 2: which struck the village in eighteen ninety one added hundreds
Speaker 2: of grays to the plot. Called spotted fever by the settlers,
Speaker 2: the disease is now thought to have been form a
Speaker 2: form of meningitis. Located in the Aurora Cemetery is the
Speaker 2: gravestone of the infant Nelly Burus, with its often quoted
Speaker 2: epitaph in quotes as I so soon done, I don't
Speaker 2: know why I was begun. What an interesting sentence. This
Speaker 2: site is also well known because of the legend that
Speaker 2: a spaceship crashed nearby in eighteen ninety seven and the
Speaker 2: pie killed in the crash was buried here. Struck by
Speaker 2: an epidemic and crop failure and bypassed by the railroad,
Speaker 2: the original town of Aurora almost disappeared, but the cemetery
Speaker 2: remains in use with over eight hundred graves. Veterans of
Speaker 2: the Civil War, World Wars one and two, and the
Speaker 2: Korean and Vietnam conflicts are entered here as well.
Speaker 3: Okay, so real quick, all right, So the town of
Speaker 3: Aurora at the time when the crash happened had three
Speaker 3: hundred citizens living there.
Speaker 4: Okay, three hundred.
Speaker 3: I had more than that in my graduating class. Okay,
Speaker 3: this was a very small town. Some might even call
Speaker 3: it a village, right, And on one faithful night there
Speaker 3: was an incident. The judge of this town had some land,
Speaker 3: He had a windmill, He had a little farm, and
Speaker 3: a craft crashed into his windmill. The driver of said
Speaker 3: craft got out and tried to do some repairs and
Speaker 3: died of its wounds. The local townspeople, feeling like, well,
Speaker 3: this being had life, therefore needs to have a proper burial,
Speaker 3: decided to inter it at the local Aurora cemetery. This
Speaker 3: is the only marker that still stands to prove anything
Speaker 3: about the situation other than the eyewitness accounts and the
Speaker 3: news articles.
Speaker 2: Is this town like is it known for its UFO
Speaker 2: vibes because of this or this is the only thing
Speaker 2: talking about any UFO in the entire town.
Speaker 3: You got a couple of old timers, and we're gonna
Speaker 3: hear from one of them in a little bit that's
Speaker 3: like got stories of the low, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: You know, it's a little small towns And you got
Speaker 3: the local coffee shop where there's that old dude that
Speaker 3: gets every day he goes in for his coffee, and
Speaker 3: if you ask him any questions, he's got the entire
Speaker 3: town lore because he's never left that ten mile square
Speaker 3: radius of the town.
Speaker 2: They still smoke cigarettes in there. Yeah, oh fuck yeah,
Speaker 2: fuck yeah.
Speaker 4: Right, that's the guy that they have in this town.
Speaker 3: But as far as anything else goes, there's no eyewitness
Speaker 3: to this is still alive today eighteen ninety seven, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Everybody that was there to witness
Speaker 3: it is dead. It's more like secondhand and third person
Speaker 3: stories here. But we still have the news articles. We
Speaker 3: still have at least the pictures of the situation, and
Speaker 3: they still have the cemetery plot. Now. They had crop failures,
Speaker 3: wells were poisoned after this, and then at railroad came through.
Speaker 3: This town was completely bypassed, and no one ever thought
Speaker 3: too thinks about it again until some guys in some
Speaker 3: black suits came one day, dug up this grave and
Speaker 3: removed the tombstone from this creature. Although they have put
Speaker 3: up a rock with some things on it. There was
Speaker 3: higher glyphs on the craft. They put those same higher
Speaker 3: glyphs on the tombstone. We're gonna get into it. Are
Speaker 3: you ready for this shit?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I was born ready for this kind of shit.
Speaker 6: Maybe let's go at the north central Texas. As the
Speaker 6: story goes, it was April seventeenth, eighteen ninety seven, around
Speaker 6: six am, and Aurora, Texas, sleepy little town just a
Speaker 6: few dozen miles northwest of Dallas Fort Worth. There were
Speaker 6: numerous airship sidings throughout the area dating back into eighteen
Speaker 6: ninety six. This time it would be different. A cigar
Speaker 6: shaped airship that was seen lumbering north towards Aurora was
Speaker 6: reported to apparently have machinery out of order. An April
Speaker 6: nineteenth article on the Dallas Morning News written by Aurora
Speaker 6: resident se Hayden.
Speaker 4: Real quick, can you read this?
Speaker 3: This is the article itself written by Si Hayden, who
Speaker 3: is the guy who they're saying is a bit of
Speaker 3: a prankster? So how can we believe it? Ba ba
Speaker 3: ba up yo. The local judge's windmill was absolutely demolished
Speaker 3: because of this.
Speaker 2: Uh, it looks a little fucky, but I'll try. It's
Speaker 2: old so but it says about six o'clock this morning.
Speaker 2: The early risers, Yeah, the early risers of Aurora were
Speaker 2: astonished at the sudden appearance of the airship, which had
Speaker 2: been sailing through the country. It was traveling due north
Speaker 2: in much nearer to the Earth than ever before. Evidently
Speaker 2: some of the machinery was out of order, for it
Speaker 2: was making a speed of only ten or twelve miles
Speaker 2: an hour and gradually settling toward the earth. It sailed
Speaker 2: directly over the public square, and when it reached the
Speaker 2: north part of the town, it collided with the tower
Speaker 2: of Judge Proctor's windmill and went to pieces. It looks
Speaker 2: like with a terrific explosion, scattering debris over several acres
Speaker 2: of ground, wrecking the windmill and water tank, and destroying
Speaker 2: the judge's flower garden. The pilot of the ship is
Speaker 2: supposed to have supposed to have been the only one
Speaker 2: on board, and while his remains are badly disfigured, enough
Speaker 2: of the original has been picked up to show the
Speaker 2: world that he was not an inhabitant of this world.
Speaker 2: Mister TJ.
Speaker 3: Warne weird wagons, I don't know, wes weams?
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, so it looks like the United States Signal Service?
Speaker 2: Is that Signal Service?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Signal Service officer at this place, and an authority on astronomy,
Speaker 2: gives it his opinion that he was a native of
Speaker 2: the planet Mars. How do you come up with an
Speaker 2: idea like that?
Speaker 3: Keep in mind, like sci fi was still a thing,
Speaker 3: So if any alien was to inhabit Eorth, that's obviously
Speaker 3: a Martian.
Speaker 2: Well he's also any he's an astronomer too, So maybe
Speaker 2: there's like, I don't know, some bits of information that
Speaker 2: he was able to collect that it tied into Mars astrologically.
Speaker 3: I mean, I who's to say, right, But at the
Speaker 3: same time, an airship we're talking about like a zeppelin,
Speaker 3: a blimp. Okay, people knew what this looked like, and
Speaker 3: it was cigar shaped, and I get that some might
Speaker 3: even say tic Tech shaped, but you know, aside from that.
Speaker 3: Aside from that, people knew what an airship looked like. Bro,
Speaker 3: You're not going to have a single man crew on
Speaker 3: an airship, A one guy running an entire airship like that.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, there's.
Speaker 2: No way unless it's a gray.
Speaker 3: Well that. I don't think this was a human made airship, right,
Speaker 3: It would make more sense that maybe this is a
Speaker 3: single pilot of a damaged flying tic TAC that went
Speaker 3: in for a crash landing. I believe that, especially when
Speaker 3: we get later on into the descriptions of what the
Speaker 3: pilot looked like.
Speaker 2: You know, and like I mean Amelia Airhard she was
Speaker 2: flying solo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was a biplane, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: She wasn't flying tictak or airship type thing. She was
Speaker 3: flying like World War One style biplanes. And that was
Speaker 3: a single man operation. But this big like the Hindenburg,
Speaker 3: for instance, the Hindenburg had an entire crew and a
Speaker 3: whole bunch of people that were like on board ass passengers.
Speaker 3: Even the Goodyear Blimp has like three or four operators
Speaker 3: on the blimp. You're not gonna have a single guy
Speaker 3: operating an airship, no fucking way.
Speaker 2: Papers found on his person, Evidently the record of his
Speaker 2: travels are written in some unknown hiro glyphics. There we
Speaker 2: go and cannot be deciphered. The ship was too badly
Speaker 2: wrecked to form any conclusion as to its construction or
Speaker 2: motive power. It was built of unknown metal resembling somewhat
Speaker 2: a mixture of aluminum and silver, and it must have
Speaker 2: weighed several tons. The town is full of people today
Speaker 2: who are viewing the wreck and gathering specimens of the
Speaker 2: strange metal from the debris. The pilot's funeral will take
Speaker 2: place at noon tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Now, real quick, how many of these UFO crash sites
Speaker 3: have we heard about where there was some sort of
Speaker 3: silver metallic spray that happened some metal that we have
Speaker 3: no clue what that thing was, but it was able
Speaker 3: to do stuff. And we're going to read more reports
Speaker 3: here in a minute.
Speaker 2: Meta material is what they usually call it.
Speaker 3: Essentially, this was in eighteen ninety seven. This wasn't a
Speaker 3: cat off of Roswell that was in nineteen forty eight, right,
Speaker 3: that was fucking damn. You're fifty years after this, Okay,
Speaker 3: so this was I'm not saying the first of its kind.
Speaker 3: But to the people of the small, sleepy, three hundred
Speaker 3: occupant town of Aurora, they had never heard of some
Speaker 3: wild spacecraft crashing. These eyewitness testimonies of this silver metallic
Speaker 3: stuff that was sprayed out of this the occupant being
Speaker 3: small but kind of similar humanoid type. This is not
Speaker 3: something that they read in their local pulp fiction. This
Speaker 3: wasn't a thing that they saw in their local picture show.
Speaker 3: What we would now call a movie. That wasn't even
Speaker 3: a thing at this time.
Speaker 2: World War One started after this, right?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was a nineteen fifteen and in nineteen eighteen.
Speaker 4: I could be a little wrong with those, but I no,
Speaker 4: it was in the nineteen teens.
Speaker 3: So it was even before all that exactly. Huh, let's
Speaker 3: continue aiden.
Speaker 6: So they did, went over the town square and towards
Speaker 6: a Judge JS Proctor's farm. As it was moving toward
Speaker 6: the farm, it was also slowly descended. Once it neared
Speaker 6: the farm, the craft struck the Proctor's windmill and is
Speaker 6: reported to have gone up in a terrific explosion that
Speaker 6: left debris over several acres the craft. Debris, said to
Speaker 6: be a mix of aluminum and a silver metallic substance,
Speaker 6: was said to have been dumped into the Proctor's well.
Speaker 6: The lone inhabitant was recovered, and although the remains were
Speaker 6: badly damaged, they were stated to be identifiable enough to
Speaker 6: be out of this world.
Speaker 3: There is some very key discernible differences between them as
Speaker 3: far as height, weight, muscle mass, nose, hair, skin complexion,
Speaker 3: eye color, eye shape, all of these things. There's so
Speaker 3: many things that play.
Speaker 2: Into that real point. Yeah, and that's a thing that.
Speaker 3: I believe, as far as evolution goes, adaptation over thousands
Speaker 3: and thousands of years. That is something that I believe
Speaker 3: in now, not a whole species change. I just had
Speaker 3: somebody hit me up and was like the whole argument
Speaker 3: of like, well, if we came from monkeys, why are
Speaker 3: there's still monkeys?
Speaker 7: Bro?
Speaker 3: If all dogs came from wolves, then why do we
Speaker 3: still have wolves? And it's like, Okay, that's not even
Speaker 3: a fair argument. The ancient wolves from prehistory are not
Speaker 3: the wolves we're talking about right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not talking about dire wolves, but that's.
Speaker 3: What I'm talking about, the ancestor of the ancestor of
Speaker 3: the ancestor of the dire wolf.
Speaker 2: Like we're talking right the wolf isn't the first creation
Speaker 2: of the K nine. I don't think that's what people
Speaker 2: are saying.
Speaker 3: Like, that's like saying all all cats stem down from
Speaker 3: the sabertooth tiger. Well, then why do we still have tigers?
Speaker 3: You know, the tigers today are not the fucking saber
Speaker 3: tooth Dude.
Speaker 4: It's a fucking stupid argument.
Speaker 2: And also, you're talking about like a pack animals. It
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that that's like, you know, a pack could
Speaker 2: possible a pack, get it, but a pack could ascend,
Speaker 2: you know, more than other packs, you know, you know,
Speaker 2: just just thinking out of the box here, Like I
Speaker 2: feel like it's not like a hundred hundredth monkey syndrome
Speaker 2: where everybody gets it at once the hundredth monkey does exactly.
Speaker 4: So I don't know the environment that the alien.
Speaker 3: And let's let's just assume that the picture that's on
Speaker 3: our screen right now, again, anybody won't see it.
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Speaker 3: Let's assume that this isn't a prop and let's just
Speaker 3: off of just trying to have the conversation. Let's assume
Speaker 3: this is an actual corpse. Third eye all the way
Speaker 3: flashes all the way over right. Okay, Why is his
Speaker 3: skin so pasty? Perhaps he comes from a planet where
Speaker 3: they don't get a lot of sunlight. Perhaps his skin
Speaker 3: doesn't ten when they get hit with UV light. Maybe
Speaker 3: their skin does something completely different, like gets pastier, and
Speaker 3: for some reason, per their biology, it makes sense for
Speaker 3: them to get pastier rather than darker when they get
Speaker 3: hit with direct sunlight. Maybe there's a reason why they're shorter.
Speaker 3: Maybe they have a higher gravity on their planet, so
Speaker 3: it's harder for them to grow taller.
Speaker 2: So Mercury and venus would be checked off of that
Speaker 2: list then, because I don't.
Speaker 4: See that this came from our galaxy no way.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, the one guys that it was coming from Mars.
Speaker 3: But eighteen ninety seven, bro, their their thought process was
Speaker 3: so so narrow. I mean, Copernicus was doing his shit,
Speaker 3: what was it the fifteen hundreds?
Speaker 2: Well he was. Also they also kept on referring to
Speaker 2: the alien as a he. So it almost makes me wonder, like,
Speaker 2: you know, men are from Mars have a dick, men
Speaker 2: are from Mars. Women are for venus kind of.
Speaker 3: Thing, Okay, could be could be? I mean, but or
Speaker 3: or did he have a phallus of some type that
Speaker 3: made them think that it was a male specimen?
Speaker 2: I wonder what that would look like.
Speaker 3: No, homo, an alien dick?
Speaker 2: You think he's gotta it's gotta be tiny, almost probably inverted,
Speaker 2: I mean, or or.
Speaker 3: Was the whole fucking kickstand you boy was rocking with
Speaker 3: a third.
Speaker 2: Leg, Like we don't know, dude, I mean, they're walking
Speaker 2: around with no clothes on.
Speaker 3: I mean, or did they did the clothes get burned off?
Speaker 3: Did he get stripped of his clothes to do an autopsy? Right?
Speaker 2: Like we there's so many questions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, but but but to the point of
Speaker 3: the AAR situation, We're gonna talk more about the eyewitness
Speaker 3: accounts of the pilot of this quote unquote airship flying
Speaker 3: cigar tic tac call it what you want, and what
Speaker 3: he looked like. Apparently he was torched, like when it crashed, landed,
Speaker 3: it exploded, and he was burnt up. So, I mean,
Speaker 3: how much of that can you really say was his
Speaker 3: true anatomy and how much of it was just what
Speaker 3: was left afterwards. There's so many questions on this, but again, dude,
Speaker 3: eighteen ninety seven, there was no precedence for having a
Speaker 3: UFO make your town famous at this time.
Speaker 2: Also, what people say about the Grays is that they're
Speaker 2: like not even just well, no, that they're like kind
Speaker 2: of robotic, Like they're not like flesh and blood type
Speaker 2: of alien. So many people talk about that, and it
Speaker 2: makes me think, like, all right, you know, us dumb
Speaker 2: monkeys here on planet Earth, let's just assume that, hypothetically speaking,
Speaker 2: that every other alien spiece is out there is way
Speaker 2: more advanced and way smarter than we are. Right, we
Speaker 2: don't even know where the fuck we come from. Maybe
Speaker 2: they actually do, you know, I mean physically or what
Speaker 2: year or anything like that is what I mean. But
Speaker 2: if that's if that's possible, is it, you would assume
Speaker 2: then that they probably discovered how to create AI way
Speaker 2: before we did.
Speaker 3: I mean maybe, or they didn't need artificial intelligence because
Speaker 3: it's heads so big they need to make artificial They
Speaker 3: just knew shit.
Speaker 2: Telekinesis style possibly or a telepathy style.
Speaker 3: All hypothetical conversations are on the table on this one,
Speaker 3: big dog.
Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, let's continue. You'll want to know more
Speaker 8: about this this world. The body supposedly also contained a
Speaker 8: paper material with a hieroglyphic like writing on it. A
Speaker 8: funeral was given and the burial was interred in the
Speaker 8: local cemetery with burial rights given. Over recent years, many
Speaker 8: investigations were conducted at the story. However, it was nearly
Speaker 8: lost to history. The late Jim Marris resurfaced the story
Speaker 8: about uncovering new witnesses in this seventies. He, along with
Speaker 8: another journalist, reportedly found metallic substances in the grave site
Speaker 8: with a metal detector. Later in the seventies, the original
Speaker 8: gravestone was stolen and the location of the grave site
Speaker 8: was lost. Using witness testimony, old photos, the dates on
Speaker 8: the surrounding gravestones, and ground penetrating radar. The location has
Speaker 8: been reportedly recovered, but now the grave appears to be
Speaker 8: empty and missing the metal objects. This has sparked many
Speaker 8: conspiracies in and of itself. Stories of hoaxes, along with
Speaker 8: the new witness stories have all sparked controversy. One hoax
Speaker 8: claim stated that the Proctors never even had a windmill. However,
Speaker 8: investigation is completed during television shows such as The UFO
Speaker 8: Files and UFO Hunters, along with up a Moufon found
Speaker 8: that there is a windmill base on the property. A
Speaker 8: well investigation cooperated reports of the well having been cleaned out,
Speaker 8: although the well water did contain high amounts of aluminum.
Speaker 8: This is given as a reason for the severe debilitating
Speaker 8: arthritis developed by a subsequent landor. Although neither proof of
Speaker 8: the crash nor hoax has been definitively determined, it is
Speaker 8: likely it will remain that way for the time being.
Speaker 3: All right, real quick before we continue. The well was drained,
Speaker 3: but a subsequent landowner who bought it from Judge Proctor
Speaker 3: years later, said that the high amount of aluminum in
Speaker 3: the water caused his crazy authoritis.
Speaker 4: That was his picture, by the way, that was his hands.
Speaker 3: Oh dude, I don't know, Like, I'm not that guy,
Speaker 3: but I would argue that most wells don't just accidentally
Speaker 3: have high amounts of aluminum in them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we like to save that for our camtrails.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, right, It's not like this
Speaker 3: area of Aurora, Texas is known for having aluminum mines
Speaker 3: or something like that. Why they threw the wreckage in
Speaker 3: the well? I wish I knew. I don't know why
Speaker 3: people do dumb shit, but they did. But they absolutely
Speaker 3: found high amounts of aluminum in the drained well when
Speaker 3: they did the studies, and a subsequent landowner said he
Speaker 3: had crazy authritis and attributed it to something in the water.
Speaker 3: They later found out that, oh yeah, no, you got
Speaker 3: heavy metals in your water.
Speaker 2: Dude, I'm at risk of sounding like an idiot, which
Speaker 2: I don't care. Half the people listening to the show
Speaker 2: already assume that I am, so I don't even care.
Speaker 2: Aluminum is not something that you find in the ground.
Speaker 2: I thought it's something that you have to create, isn't it.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, you find that's like saying like steel
Speaker 3: isn't something you find in the ground. You find iron
Speaker 3: ore and then you smelt that to iron like ingots,
Speaker 3: and then you can fold that and heat treat it
Speaker 3: into steel. Aluminum or is something you extract from the
Speaker 3: ground and then you turn it into a usable material.
Speaker 2: But naturally, like if if there were no humans, there
Speaker 2: would be no aluminum physical objects. It would just be
Speaker 2: or yeah, okay, so yeah, I'm not an idiot.
Speaker 3: Then it's like copper or that there's copper in the ground,
Speaker 3: but you can't just like go and find Oh well,
Speaker 3: I mean I guess you can in certain areage you
Speaker 3: can find like a unk of copper, but you have
Speaker 3: to mind for it.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's like gold.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The only reason I say that, dude, my dad used
Speaker 2: to work at this aluminum plant, and I could have
Speaker 2: sworn he like I remember him telling me that that
Speaker 2: that's like I don't remember the aluminum or process or whatever.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's interesting though, that you would find chunks
Speaker 2: of aluminum and you're well down there. I mean, nobody
Speaker 2: would do that on purpose, if anything, like it's been
Speaker 2: known to that you shouldn't be consuming aluminum, right, So yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that's strange. And what I what I also want
Speaker 2: to say is is that you know, and I like
Speaker 2: to bring her up and hopefully we can get her
Speaker 2: on one of these days. Is Diana Posalka. She went
Speaker 2: on to Joe Rogan Show and a couple other shows.
Speaker 2: Uh Blitzo said, So that was awesome conversation. But she's
Speaker 2: talked about how she's gone out to like you know,
Speaker 2: New Mexico and Nevada and shit like that, like out
Speaker 2: in the barren desert out there, and they went searching
Speaker 2: for meta materials and this is the kind of shit
Speaker 2: that they would find, like, but it was weird, like
Speaker 2: how it reacted. And she believes that these are not like,
Speaker 2: you know, material that was left over from a crash.
Speaker 2: She believes that it was kind of left there on
Speaker 2: purpose in a sense. But some of them do. If
Speaker 2: you look into the meta materials, they are fucking wild.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about like there's this one piece of I
Speaker 2: don't even know what to call it, but the best
Speaker 2: way to be able to describe how she described it
Speaker 2: is almost look like a piece of aluminum foil, right,
Speaker 2: but as soon as as soon as you put it
Speaker 2: in your hand, it melts but then you can stiffen
Speaker 2: it back up and it looks totally straight, like like
Speaker 2: a piece of aluminum foil coming out of the role right,
Speaker 2: like no wrinkles or anything. And it's like it reacts.
Speaker 2: It's so malleable, which it doesn't make sense according to
Speaker 2: literally anything we know, like how it reacts, and we're
Speaker 2: not talking about something heating it. I'm talking about how
Speaker 2: you hold it. It will determine you know, its its
Speaker 2: makeup almost exactly.
Speaker 3: And again, there have been metals that have been you know,
Speaker 3: discovered and uh like monel and incanel and all these
Speaker 3: other things that they didn't know about in eighteen ninety seven.
Speaker 3: So for them to say that there was this metal
Speaker 3: looking silver aluminum material on the ground and all this stuff,
Speaker 3: they wouldn't have known what monel was, Jackson, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: have They wouldn't have gone to some like metal specialism,
Speaker 3: like we have this sample that we found off of
Speaker 3: a crash that blew down our judge's a windmill. Can
Speaker 3: you tell me what this is made of? They would
Speaker 3: have described it as they saw it, and then to
Speaker 3: get rid of it, like well, we don't really have
Speaker 3: a pit that we could throw it in What about
Speaker 3: the well right here? Yeah, I'm sure you could throw
Speaker 3: it in the well. If it's just illuminum, it shouln't
Speaker 3: hurt me. But like they didn't know all the shit
Speaker 3: in the eighteen nineties, dude.
Speaker 2: We didn't for sure, Like humans definitely didn't, right exactly,
Speaker 2: so I mean especially not Palmfunk Texas.
Speaker 3: No, dude, they were putting famaldehyde in milk into the
Speaker 3: nineteen forties, oh my god. Like they were putting copper
Speaker 3: sulfate into cans of peas to make them look green.
Speaker 3: Into the nineteen forties, they were putting iron oxide aka
Speaker 3: rust all over meat that had gone rotten to make
Speaker 3: it look red and fresh to sell it to people.
Speaker 3: So like aluminum in your well, that was no big deal. Yeah,
Speaker 3: if you ever want to like have your whole stomach
Speaker 3: turned over. There's a book called The Jungle that was
Speaker 3: written and the writer wrote it as like a story
Speaker 3: about a hard working guy that was just down his
Speaker 3: luck and whatever, and he couldn't find work in any
Speaker 3: good places, so he had to work in a food
Speaker 3: manufacturing place and all this, and the public reddit they
Speaker 3: didn't get the story about some hard working guy that
Speaker 3: was down his luck. They got a story about how
Speaker 3: discussing their food industry was A direct quote from the
Speaker 3: author was I aimed for America's heart and hit their stomach.
Speaker 3: But like he thought that everyone knew that that was
Speaker 3: the case. Like formaldehyde and milk, it wasn't to keep
Speaker 3: it fresh. It was just a filler substitute.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, oh, one hundred years from now people
Speaker 2: are going to be saying the same thing about what's
Speaker 2: in our food. I mean, you look into the fucking
Speaker 2: meat pace, dude. All that talk about turning your stomach.
Speaker 2: That is gross.
Speaker 3: But that's my point. In the eighteen nineties, Yo, what's
Speaker 3: a little illuminum in your well? It's metal.
Speaker 4: That metal is not going to mix it the water.
Speaker 4: It's no big deal.
Speaker 3: But bye bruh, it's you know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 3: wasn't a thing. They probably thought just to get rid
Speaker 3: of it, throw it in the well. Why not out
Speaker 3: of side, out of mine kind of thing.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I wasn't there, but the eyewitness testimonies and then the
Speaker 3: subsequent landowner they got crazy. Allthright is that can be
Speaker 3: linked back to heavy metals in his drinking water. That
Speaker 3: checks out.
Speaker 7: You know what.
Speaker 2: That just inspired me. Next show is going to be
Speaker 2: on all meta materials that have ever been discovered.
Speaker 3: I'm down.
Speaker 2: Well, let's fucking go anyway, let's continue on with this.
Speaker 6: Yeah, As an exhammation of the grape site has been
Speaker 6: repeatedly noted by officials, it looks like this story will
Speaker 6: remain a mystery for the time being. If you're ever
Speaker 6: near Aurora, you can still visit the grape site, where
Speaker 6: a newmarker has been left in the original's place. People
Speaker 6: often leave trinkets and messages for the other worldly being
Speaker 6: they claim it's buried below.
Speaker 3: All right, shout out to undiscovered origins on the youtubees.
Speaker 3: So and that was kind of a brief overview of
Speaker 3: the situation. Okay, cool, So now let's read a little
Speaker 3: article here. This is from Texas Hillcountry dot com local news.
Speaker 3: This is local Texas war honestly, and it's not like
Speaker 3: everybody from Texas has ever heard of this.
Speaker 4: It's actually more unheard of than heard of, to be
Speaker 4: honest with you. Again, is a small town even by
Speaker 4: today's standard. It's a very small town. And unless you
Speaker 4: know about it, you don't really know about it.
Speaker 3: Dude. Let's read in here the eighteen ninety seven Aurora,
Speaker 3: Texas UFO crash and the quote unquote alien buried in
Speaker 3: the cemetery.
Speaker 2: When you hear the phrase UFO crash, you probably think
Speaker 2: of Roswell, New Mexico in nineteen forty seven. But did
Speaker 2: you know that fifty years early, a mysterious airship allegedly
Speaker 2: crashed in Aurora, Texas. Not only that, but the Dallas
Speaker 2: Morning News claimed that the airship pilot who was killed
Speaker 2: in the crash was not an inhabitant of this world.
Speaker 2: The body of the pilot was buried in the local cemetery.
Speaker 2: You might dismiss it all as a Texas sized tall tail.
Speaker 2: But in the nineteen seventies, reporter Jim Mars, Oh, that's interesting.
Speaker 2: Last name there.
Speaker 4: Reporter bars on that Mars. By the way, Fambile wants
Speaker 4: to look.
Speaker 2: Come up ma Ara Ara s as they say. Reporter
Speaker 2: Jim Mars managed to track down and interview a living
Speaker 2: eyewitness to the Aurora airship. Was this little town or
Speaker 2: this little Texas town, located about twenty miles northwest of Dallas,
Speaker 2: the site of an otherworldly encounter between eighteen ninety six
Speaker 2: and eighteen ninety seven, dozens of reports of strange cigar
Speaker 2: shaped airships were reportedly witnessed across the country. The sightings
Speaker 2: began in California and headed east. The most dramatic of
Speaker 2: all of these reports appeared in the April seventeenth, eighteen
Speaker 2: ninety seven edition of the Dallas Morning News. An article
Speaker 2: by Aurora resident S. E. Hayden claimed that near dawn
Speaker 2: two days earlier, an airship crashed into Judge Judge JS
Speaker 2: Proctor's windmill, and Aurora everybody back in the day just
Speaker 2: went by, like their two initials.
Speaker 4: It was more of a proper thing, you know, I
Speaker 4: get it.
Speaker 3: I wish it would. I mean, we could look up
Speaker 3: Judge JS Proctor. It's not like that's a fictitious guy.
Speaker 3: He was an absolutely seated judge in Aurora, Texas.
Speaker 2: It says the early risers of Aurora were astonished at
Speaker 2: the sudden appearance of the airship, which had been sailing
Speaker 2: through the country. Hayden wrote, evidently some of the machinery
Speaker 2: was out of order, for it was making a speed
Speaker 2: of only ten to twelve miles an hour and gradually
Speaker 2: settling toward the earth. It sailed over the public square,
Speaker 2: and when it reached the north part of town, collided
Speaker 2: with Judge Proctor's windmill, and went to pieces in a
Speaker 2: terrific explosion, scattering debris over several acres of ground, wrecking
Speaker 2: the windmill and water tank, and destroying the judge's flower garden.
Speaker 2: Hayden wrote of the corpse end quotes. While his remains
Speaker 2: are badly disfigured, enough of the original has been picked
Speaker 2: up to show that it was not an inhabitant of
Speaker 2: this world. End quote. Papers written in a strange form
Speaker 2: of hieroglyphics were discovered on the body. According to Hayden,
Speaker 2: the ship was built of an unknown metal, resembling somewhat
Speaker 2: of a mixture of aluminium in silver, and it must
Speaker 2: have weighed several tons. People from Aurora and the surrounding
Speaker 2: countryside gathered to view the debris, and a funeral for
Speaker 2: the dead pilot was held the next day.
Speaker 3: I mean, they were just proper Southern folk, you know,
Speaker 3: if something died, we got to give it a proper burial.
Speaker 3: That's only proper.
Speaker 2: The similarities between the Aurora crash and the modern UFO
Speaker 2: cases are difficult to dismiss as a mere coincidence, largely
Speaker 2: forgotten for decades. The Aurora case came into the public
Speaker 2: eye in the nineteen seventies. In nineteen seventy three, reporter
Speaker 2: Jim Mars interviewed eighty three year old Charlie C. Stevens, who,
Speaker 2: who was at first reluctant to in quotes, get involved.
Speaker 2: After some in quotes neighborly conversation, I like how they
Speaker 2: put that, Mars finally persuaded Stevens to reveal what he
Speaker 2: saw as a ten year old boy that morning of
Speaker 2: eighteen ninety seven. That morning, Charlie and his dad were
Speaker 2: working with cattle when they spotted the cigar shaped craft
Speaker 2: passing low overhead with a bright light. They watched it
Speaker 2: move toward Aurra, then heard an explosion fire shown in
Speaker 2: the northern sky. The quote was, I wanted to go
Speaker 2: immediately and see what happened, but my daddy said, we
Speaker 2: had to finish our chores. Ain't out a bitch. You
Speaker 2: see a fucking ufon and your Dad's like, get back
Speaker 2: to cutting back goddamn grass. That's exactly what my dad
Speaker 2: would have would have said, for sure.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, to the simple farm folk, you
Speaker 3: gotta do them choring or else you can't eat this winter.
Speaker 4: Like, I get it, we got things to do.
Speaker 2: You better go milk them titties, boy.
Speaker 3: I mean, but at the same time, you don't just
Speaker 3: happen to see a crash happen every day. I think
Speaker 3: you could wait to feed the chickens until you get
Speaker 3: back from checking it out. I don't know.
Speaker 2: The following day, Stevens's father rode into town and viewed
Speaker 2: the airship debris. Jim Mars visited the Aurora Cemetery in
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy three and saw what he believed to be
Speaker 2: the pilot's graved marked by a crude rock headstone that
Speaker 2: was half broken. On the remaining half, a design was
Speaker 2: etched that resembled, in quotes, one end of a saucer
Speaker 2: shaped structure with small circles that appeared to be portholes.
Speaker 2: The grave itself wasn't full size, but appeared to belong
Speaker 2: to either a child or a very small person there.
Speaker 2: Fellow journalist Bill Case had used a metal detector over
Speaker 2: the grave and believed that it contained at least three
Speaker 2: large pieces of metal. Later, Case returned to the gravesite
Speaker 2: with his metal detector and discovered that the signal was gone.
Speaker 2: A metal pipe had been inserted into the ground. Someone
Speaker 2: had apparently removed the metal pieces from the grave.
Speaker 3: Una, somebody has started digging into it all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: it's gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So in the nineteen seventies, the grave marker was
Speaker 2: stolen and the exact location of the pilot's grave was lost.
Speaker 2: In recent years, ground penetrating gradar has been used to
Speaker 2: discovered an unmarked grave in the area where the Pilot
Speaker 2: was believed to have been buried. Nonetheless, the Aurora Cemetery
Speaker 2: Association has been steadfast in its refusal to grant researchers
Speaker 2: the right to exhume the grave. Shocker, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not you know, it's not good. It's not good
Speaker 2: form to do something like that. But you're talking about
Speaker 2: aliens here, Dude.
Speaker 3: Dude whatever. Abe Lincoln was buried and then jug up
Speaker 3: and then buried and dug up like nine fucking times.
Speaker 3: I want to hear that. Shit, we talking about a
Speaker 3: possible alien. If they were to dig in here and
Speaker 3: find that it was a child's grave from the eighteen
Speaker 3: thirties or some shit, well then it should be very
Speaker 3: easy to tell that by looking at the skeletal remains.
Speaker 3: The tental remains any of these things, they don't want
Speaker 3: people looking at it for a whole other reason, if
Speaker 3: you ask me.
Speaker 2: Was the pilot of the airship, an alien, an interdimensional visitor,
Speaker 2: a badly burned human, or just a belated April fools prank.
Speaker 2: In two thousand and four, Michael Busby published his extremely
Speaker 2: well researched nonfiction book called Solving the eighteen ninety seven
Speaker 2: Airship Mystery Busby. Busby's book proposed that, rather than ET's,
Speaker 2: humans were behind the great airship sightings of eighteen ninety seven.
Speaker 2: The book remains. The book examines theories about a secret
Speaker 2: society of airship builders based in California in the nineteenth century,
Speaker 2: known as the Sonora Aero Club. The existence of this
Speaker 2: aero club only came to light when strange, beautiful drawings
Speaker 2: of airships were discovered in a Houston Antique Score antique
Speaker 2: store in the nineteen sixties. The story of Charles August
Speaker 2: Albert Delshaw, the artist who drew these airships and who
Speaker 2: claimed to have been a member of the Aero Club,
Speaker 2: is a fascinating tale in itself. Whether you believe the
Speaker 2: Aurora air was a tall tale or a compelling case
Speaker 2: of a real life UFO crash. One thing is for sure,
Speaker 2: the Lone Star State is the home of the legends
Speaker 2: that are larger than life.
Speaker 3: You know, while we're doing this, go ahead and look
Speaker 3: this secret society of airship builders based out of California. Like, okay, listen,
Speaker 3: we talked about secret societies all the time. I get it.
Speaker 3: A secret society of airship builders. Really?
Speaker 2: Oh, stop sharing the screen already found it?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 4: Well real quick, I want to say, if there was
Speaker 4: anything else to.
Speaker 3: Read here, Yeah, this is actually from the the hater himself,
Speaker 3: Michael Busby.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'll I'll share the screen back. We could
Speaker 4: read more about it.
Speaker 3: So does this seem like a hoax? Like something that
Speaker 3: was made up to cover up a story here because
Speaker 3: apparently it was unknown about until a book was found
Speaker 3: in the nineteen sixties. Interesting, right before these dudes started
Speaker 3: digging in the nineteen seventies into this grave site.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is really Uh, I don't know if I
Speaker 2: buy this. Guy, And I have a major problem with
Speaker 2: people who are always trying to debunk everything, Like those
Speaker 2: are the people that literally don't believe everything They're going
Speaker 2: in with the mind that everything that they are trying
Speaker 2: to examine is absolutely fake, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 2: there's some people that just don't believe shit and they
Speaker 2: just want to shit on everybody's parade. They want to
Speaker 2: say fuck your imagination and fucking well everything else, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like those people I got, I
Speaker 2: can't stand him. But yeah, this is the uh, this
Speaker 2: is the website of the artistoryproject dot com and art history. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because he was an artist.
Speaker 3: So this is a book of designs, bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the guy was an artist. This is
Speaker 2: your boy, Charles del Shao. He had like two more names,
Speaker 2: but this is you know, slim down the Charles del Shao,
Speaker 2: Anti Gravity Fuel and the Adventures of the Sonora Aero Club.
Speaker 2: It says, let's summarize. Uh, oh is it going to
Speaker 2: let us read all of it?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is all right. Oh it's relatively small. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's summarize Charles Delaschau's life quickly, because at first it
Speaker 2: seems relatively boring. Born in Berlin in eighteen thirty, Delaschow
Speaker 2: immigrated to the United States at age nineteen and worked
Speaker 2: as a butcher near Houston, Texas. He married a widow
Speaker 2: raised three children and served in the Confederate Army during
Speaker 2: the American Civil War. After his wife and son died
Speaker 2: in eighteen seventy seven, Delshaw worked as a clerk for
Speaker 2: his son in law's saddlery until his death in nineteen
Speaker 2: twenty three. Forty years later, a junk dealer uncovered twelve
Speaker 2: notebooks bound with shoelaces from a trash heap outside the
Speaker 2: Delaschow family home. The notebooks changed hands a few times,
Speaker 2: eventually winding up in the care of art history student
Speaker 2: Mary Jane Victor. The twelve notebooks were created by Charles
Speaker 2: Delaschaw between nineteen oh eight and nineteen twenty one and
Speaker 2: document the invention of an anti gravity fuel called NB
Speaker 2: gas by a secret society of aviators called the Sonora
Speaker 2: Aero Club. Containing more than twenty five hundred drawings of a
Speaker 2: flying maschie, the diaries pieced together newspaper clippings, diagrams, and
Speaker 2: coded language. The notebooks recount Delshao's time living in a
Speaker 2: boarding house from eighteen fifty four to eighteen fifty nine,
Speaker 2: when his neighbors included members of the Sonora Aero Club.
Speaker 2: The club appointed Delschao as their scribe, and he narrates
Speaker 2: the group's activities in extraordinary detail, describing many members by name,
Speaker 2: Peter Menace, whose arrow goosey I guess that's his name
Speaker 2: was among the group's most successful crafts, Tosh Wilson, Luis
Speaker 2: Cairo or Caro, and Jacob Mischer, whose plan to sell
Speaker 2: the designs for his airship ended in its sabotage and
Speaker 2: fiery crash. The Delshaw Notebooks are commonly seen as a
Speaker 2: work of fiction, an invented world, similar of the fever
Speaker 2: dreams of Adolph Wolfy. What a name Adolf Wolfy. But
Speaker 2: in eighteen ninety seven, nearly thirty years after Delschau's time
Speaker 2: with the Aero Club, an airship was cited five near
Speaker 2: five cities across Texas and Louisiana. On April twenty eighth,
Speaker 2: the Alveston Daily News ran the headline and quotes airship
Speaker 2: inventor Wilson an interview with Hiram Wilson, the nephew of
Speaker 2: the Aero Club's Tosh Wilson. So this doesn't even this
Speaker 2: is not even real, then, that's what they're saying, right.
Speaker 3: So this guy de shil wrote a bunch of drawings down,
Speaker 3: put him in a book, bound it with shoelaces, some
Speaker 3: secret society, right, and all this was was just ideas
Speaker 3: of different types of blimps. Keep in mind, the first
Speaker 3: plane took flight the right brothers, I want to say,
Speaker 3: nineteen oh three. Okay, around the world in eighty days.
Speaker 3: You ever heard of that story, Oh yeah, where they
Speaker 3: were doing hot air balloons and shit.
Speaker 4: That took place in eighteen seventy two.
Speaker 3: So as far as air travel goes, it wasn't like
Speaker 3: some sort of crazy hair brained idea. People knew that
Speaker 3: it was happening. And yeah, people were trying to improve
Speaker 3: upon the blimp and upon the airship and all these things.
Speaker 3: I get that, But this isn't This isn't a hoax.
Speaker 3: This is the guy who wrote fanfit one day and
Speaker 3: it ended up in an antique store.
Speaker 2: By the way, this drawing looks nothing like a cigar.
Speaker 2: Let's just be clear about that. This looks like some
Speaker 2: type of I mean, it looks badass dung me wrong.
Speaker 2: What are they supposed to be? Like some type of
Speaker 2: fans of propellers that are lifting it off the ground Like.
Speaker 3: It looks like Willie Walker built this bitch like, what
Speaker 3: are we talking about here?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it looks that's that's not.
Speaker 3: A spaceship with or a flying cigar with hieroglyphs on it.
Speaker 3: Nobody was gonna look at this and think that. And
Speaker 3: if a dude jumped out of this and tried to
Speaker 3: do some repairs and then succumb to his wounds because
Speaker 3: he was too badly burned, no one's gonna question that
Speaker 3: the guy was human.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, that's the thing. And think about this for
Speaker 2: a second. If there was, if there was a human
Speaker 2: that crashed into your windmill, why would you lie and
Speaker 2: say that it's an alien? You had nothing to do
Speaker 2: with this crash in the first place, right, you.
Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So there's nothing to even hide, there's nothing to hide,
Speaker 2: there's nothing to gain. Why would you lie that there's
Speaker 2: an alien, especially during a time where you probably got
Speaker 2: looked at as a kook if you said it was
Speaker 2: an alien?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm exactly. The judge of the town
Speaker 3: is not gonna be the kook that's trying to like
Speaker 3: rally the people against the marshalck. No, dude, he's gonna
Speaker 3: give you an eyewitness account of what he saw that
Speaker 3: night that crashed into his fucking windmill and then you know,
Speaker 3: crash into his flower garden. There was no windmill on
Speaker 3: the land, except you can go there and see that
Speaker 3: there was at one time a stone base for a windmill.
Speaker 3: There's no windmill because you know, the flying cigar took
Speaker 3: it out. Bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe put you know, use your brain and put
Speaker 2: two and two together.
Speaker 3: And that's like saying there's no twin towers in New
Speaker 3: York City. Nine to eleven's bullshit. It's like, no, there
Speaker 3: was twin towers. They're not here anymore. That's why we
Speaker 3: know the term of nine to eleven big talk. Like
Speaker 3: what we're talking about.
Speaker 2: Here a very good representation of that bullshit. So it
Speaker 2: says a Texas must read solving the eighteen ninety seven
Speaker 2: airship mystery.
Speaker 3: So this guy is gonna be sipping on some haterraid.
Speaker 3: We already know that going into it.
Speaker 4: But that's fine.
Speaker 2: Michael Busby is a Texan. Let me move my screen
Speaker 2: a little bit. Michael Busby is a Texan who has
Speaker 2: authored one of the most riveting works of nonfiction you'll
Speaker 2: likely ever read, a book destined to stand as a
Speaker 2: classic in the field of UFO research. Indeed, it offers
Speaker 2: an answer to the riddle of the earliest wave of
Speaker 2: UFOs in the modern era. From late eighteen ninety six
Speaker 2: to mid eighteen ninety seven, starting in California and trailing
Speaker 2: off in the Lone Star State, thousands of eyewitness or
Speaker 2: thousands of witnesses saw strange flying craft in the skies.
Speaker 2: Solving the eighteen ninety seven airship mystery is at once illuminating, enthralling,
Speaker 2: and expertly researched. Before newspaper headlines about the crash Debrison Roswell,
Speaker 2: before pilot Kenneth Arnold's sighting of flying saucers in nineteen
Speaker 2: forty seven, even before zeppelins took to the sky, Americans
Speaker 2: from all walks of life saw airships passing over ahead.
Speaker 2: These Victorian era UFOs were reported in thousands of newspaper articles. Farmers, lawyers, ranchers,
Speaker 2: ranchers and doctors all gave eyewitness accounts. Thanks to modern
Speaker 2: research researchers like Busby, these witnesses can now be verified
Speaker 2: to have genuine to have been genuine citizens living in
Speaker 2: the time and place of their sightings. They spotted mysterious
Speaker 2: jewel vern like airship airships. Even some even saw the
Speaker 2: craft the craft land for repairs or to take on water,
Speaker 2: a few.
Speaker 3: Stool Verne style airships, Jewel Vern for anybody who doesn't know.
Speaker 2: Journey to the Son of the ear Well.
Speaker 3: Yes, but also the person responsible for what we now
Speaker 3: call steampunk.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's that's what it was reminding me of what
Speaker 2: that that drawing that we saw, that's I was trying
Speaker 2: to think of that fucking term.
Speaker 3: But so they're saying this was steampunk esque airships that
Speaker 3: people thought were alien big dog.
Speaker 2: What It's like that Rick and Morty episode where Rick
Speaker 2: goes to these other worlds and he's always like, does
Speaker 2: it always gotta be steampunk?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Every time? Fucking right, dude, it says where was I?
Speaker 2: A few spoke to the crewmen and were even granted
Speaker 2: tours of the airships. One of the most startling parts
Speaker 2: of Busby's book is when the names given to witnesses
Speaker 2: by the alleged crewmen were verified, like the witnesses themselves,
Speaker 2: as having been real, flesh and blood human beings. Busby's
Speaker 2: work seeks to trace the origins of the airships back
Speaker 2: to the engineers and inventors who came over to America
Speaker 2: fleeing the German Civil War in the eighteen forties. After
Speaker 2: arriving in New York City, some of these brilliant minds
Speaker 2: partnered with the inventor, doctor Solomon Andrews, who built one
Speaker 2: of the first airships and successfully demonstrated its flight during
Speaker 2: the American Civil War. Busby examines the possibility that men
Speaker 2: who served in the Army of the Potomac became knowledgeable
Speaker 2: of doctor Andrew's craft, and in the post war decades,
Speaker 2: the these same men saw it to perfect his airship prototype,
Speaker 2: finally resulting in the astonishing events of eighteen ninety seven.
Speaker 3: Real quick, the Civil War era airships that they're referring
Speaker 3: to were fucking hot air balloons. That's what this was.
Speaker 4: You would call that an airship by any other metric.
Speaker 3: You ever seen a what was that more recent adaptation
Speaker 3: of the Three Musketeers, right w Orlando Balloon was the
Speaker 3: bad guy. I remember that, h You remember how they
Speaker 3: had a flying craft and instead of having a basket,
Speaker 3: they had an actual fucking ship being, you know, drug
Speaker 3: underneath giant balloons. Why would they have ships? Because they
Speaker 3: didn't have the imagination to make anything else. That seemed
Speaker 3: like the biggest war machine they could possibly make.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, an airship. There's pictures of this.
Speaker 3: There's pictures of civil war airships quote unquote that we
Speaker 3: would now call hot air balloons. Dude, we are not
Speaker 3: having the same conversation here.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing you might be able to get away
Speaker 2: with being like, what is that in the Is it
Speaker 2: a bird? Is it a plane? Is a superman?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 2: Because it's so far high up, you don't know. So
Speaker 2: you might be able to look at a blimp that's
Speaker 2: so high up in the sky and you might you
Speaker 2: might just maybe you're near sighted, maybe you're far sighted,
Speaker 2: maybe there's something wrong with you. You might look up
Speaker 2: at that and you might say, you know what, that
Speaker 2: thing looks like a fucking cigar? Right?
Speaker 3: Ye?
Speaker 2: But this thing crashed on the on the judge's lawn, bro, Like,
Speaker 2: this is not like I don't know what it is? No,
Speaker 2: you're right there, you know.
Speaker 3: So look at when was aluminum first smelted While we're
Speaker 3: talking about this, because these people are saying that it
Speaker 3: was something like aluminum slash silver, I don't know when
Speaker 3: aluminum became like the premiere metal to start building shit
Speaker 3: with it's very light, but it's very brittle. I know
Speaker 3: it's got some applications and uses, but it's not like
Speaker 3: that was being used in the ancient times, if I'm
Speaker 3: not mistaken.
Speaker 2: Aluminum was first successfully smelted in eighteen eighty six, oh
Speaker 2: really close to this time.
Speaker 3: By right around this time, this new fegedangle medal that
Speaker 3: everybody's it's all the rage and these people that crash,
Speaker 3: they immediately know that that's exactly what it's made of.
Speaker 2: That's what it says. It was in eighteen eighty six
Speaker 2: by Charles Martin Hall and Paul Herault, who independently developed
Speaker 2: the electro electro what fucking word is that electrolic sorry,
Speaker 2: process for extracting aluminum from illumina. This breakthrough made aluminum
Speaker 2: production commercially viable.
Speaker 3: So exactly. So again, these people that are looking at
Speaker 3: some sort of light, silvery aluminum looking material, most of
Speaker 3: these people had never dealt with aluminum on their own.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the.
Speaker 3: Cheap light metal was ten. That's why it was tinfoil,
Speaker 3: not aluminum foil. That came about later, right, right, So
Speaker 3: like yeah, the whole story of like, oh well obviously
Speaker 3: it was this bro your dates don't even line up?
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? Right now?
Speaker 2: It says, if you're intrigued by tales of UFOs or
Speaker 2: stories of the strange and mystery, solving the eighteen ninety
Speaker 2: seven airship mystery is indispensable reading. Busby's careful research, relying
Speaker 2: on primary sources and inductive reasoning, makes his work stand
Speaker 2: out from the crowd of ufology books. It serves as
Speaker 2: nothing less than the key to unriddling the nineteenth century
Speaker 2: origins of the modern UFO phenomena, in proof that there
Speaker 2: are far stranger things in heaven and Earth than tales
Speaker 2: of little green men from Mars.
Speaker 3: For the record, no one thought that this dude was green. Right,
Speaker 3: So anyway, anyway, we're gonna move on to another article.
Speaker 3: We heard him sip his little hater raid right, No problems, cool, cool.
Speaker 3: You're entailed to your opinion and you're entailed to be wrong.
Speaker 3: Now let's read this other article. This is from texashappens
Speaker 3: dot com, The Strange Tale of the Aurora, Texas UFO
Speaker 3: Crash of eighteen ninety seven. Now, I don't know if
Speaker 3: we're able to read this one here. I might be
Speaker 3: able to zoom in a bit this is is the
Speaker 3: actual article.
Speaker 2: We're not gonna be able to because you can see
Speaker 2: that it runs off the paper.
Speaker 3: Oh you're right, damn all right, well there it is.
Speaker 3: Let's get let's dig into it.
Speaker 2: While many small Texas towns have their share of local legends,
Speaker 2: the events of April seventeenth, eighteen ninety seven altered Aurora
Speaker 2: into the epicenter of one of America's earliest documented UFO incidents.
Speaker 2: You can trace this extraordinary day through the eyes of
Speaker 2: young Charlie C. Stevens, who witnessed a cigar shaped aircraft
Speaker 2: plummet from the sky and smash into a local windmill,
Speaker 2: triggering triggering a massive explosion. What is up with that
Speaker 2: ad right there? Bro?
Speaker 10: Yo?
Speaker 3: For it's a pillow ad, but like she looks like
Speaker 3: she's enjoying that pillow a little too much. Boom.
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I'm not getting that
Speaker 2: way with my pillow, dude, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I've never seen somebody laid their head down their pillow
Speaker 3: and was like, Yo, I need to flick the bean.
Speaker 2: This pillot n comfortable.
Speaker 3: My god, it's definitely giving that vibe off. This little
Speaker 3: dude in the boat is having a time because my
Speaker 3: head is on the best pillow of everelt in my life. Like, bro, what.
Speaker 2: Okay, anyway, it must be my pillow.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe we're just not we don't know because we
Speaker 3: are not sleeping. There's more of them. Holy shit, that's great,
Speaker 3: that's great. There's two of these pillow ads that apparently
Speaker 3: his pillows just orgasmic. I don't know anyway to get
Speaker 3: talking about again. Patreon dot com Slash Cult Conspiras podcast. Anyway,
Speaker 3: let's read.
Speaker 2: In nineteen forty five, officials permanently sealed the well with
Speaker 2: concrete due to contamination concerns. Crash site analysis revealed unusual
Speaker 2: metal fragments, while eyewitnesses described the pilot's appearance as distinctly otherworldly.
Speaker 2: In fact, you'll find that this mysterious aviator's final resting
Speaker 2: place lies in Aurora Cemetery, marked by a headstone bearing
Speaker 2: an etched flying saucer. Later investigations in the nineteen seventies
Speaker 2: and two thousands uncovered physical evidence supporting the original accounts,
Speaker 2: including the Windmills Foundation and anomalous materials at the burial site. So,
Speaker 2: just to go into the story a little bit more, Ummmm,
Speaker 2: it says, as do broke over Aurora on that fateful
Speaker 2: April morning, a mysterious cigar shaped aircraft screamed across the
Speaker 2: Texas sky before slamming into Judge Proctor's windmill. You have witnessed,
Speaker 2: or you would have witnessed, a spectacular explosion as the
Speaker 2: craft burst into flames, scattering debris across the property. While
Speaker 2: stunned residents rushed to the scene. Much like the haunting
Speaker 2: atmosphere of the Hewett House location in Round Rock, the
Speaker 2: crash site became a place of dark, legend and mystery.
Speaker 2: Local witness Charlie Stevens and Mary Evans reported finding the
Speaker 2: alien's pilot the alien pilot's remains among the twisted metal wreckage.
Speaker 2: Their descriptions portrayed an image of a small, otherworldly being
Speaker 2: that hadn't survived the impact. Conflicting eyewitness accounts cast doubt
Speaker 2: on the story's authenticity. While some firmly stand by their
Speaker 2: accounts of the crash and the pilot's burial and Aurora cemetery,
Speaker 2: others suggest it might have been an elaborate hoax that
Speaker 2: captured America's imagination.
Speaker 3: Okay, now this is where we get into some of
Speaker 3: those conflicting stories because some people say that it was
Speaker 3: inside of the craft that they saw this thing, they
Speaker 3: went in and retrieved the body. Some say that the
Speaker 3: creature got out of the craft, came out and tried
Speaker 3: to make repairs to the craft, and then dropped dead
Speaker 3: because he was burned alive, and that's what it was.
Speaker 3: So it's like, all right, so which story is correct?
Speaker 3: Either way? There was an unmarked, unknown grave that was
Speaker 3: at this cemetery for this creature, So I mean, who's
Speaker 3: to say.
Speaker 2: The eyewitness accounts of Aurora's mysterious crash have persisted through generations,
Speaker 2: with key testimonies from Mary Evans and Charlie Stevens while
Speaker 2: providing providing the incident's foundation despite rumors of a military
Speaker 2: cover up. Private investigations by residents have helped preserve these
Speaker 2: essential first hand accounts. There are three significant elements that
Speaker 2: strengthen the eyewitness testimony. Number one Mary evans childhood recollection
Speaker 2: of the airship's with the windmill. Number two Charlie Stevenson's
Speaker 2: detailed account later documented by reporter Jim Bars in the
Speaker 2: nineteen seventies, and number three Stephen's father or Stevens's father's
Speaker 2: confirmation of viewing the crash debris. The discovery of metal
Speaker 2: fragments in the alleged pilot's grave at Aurora Cemetery adds
Speaker 2: physical evidence to support these testimonies. When you examined these
Speaker 2: accounts together, they form a persuasive narrative that's withstood decades
Speaker 2: of scrutiny, much like Texas's Oh God spealeological Society never
Speaker 2: heard of that word. Members exploring mysterious depths, investigators continued
Speaker 2: to probe the incident's remaining questions.
Speaker 3: No doubt. Now this is the stone that has the
Speaker 3: It looked like it was broken off, but they didn't
Speaker 3: know what to call it. They don't know what name
Speaker 3: to put on it. So they had a flying craft
Speaker 3: with some portholes on the side, and that was the box.
Speaker 3: That was the thing. So this is the mysterious, mysterious
Speaker 3: burial at Aurora.
Speaker 2: S So hold on a second, though, because it says
Speaker 2: that there was a there was a headstone, and then
Speaker 2: that headstone was replaced with something else. So this was
Speaker 2: the original headstone, and then though the more cylindrical headstone
Speaker 2: was the one that replaced it.
Speaker 4: So this isn't there anymore. This is an older picture.
Speaker 3: They remove this when some unknown group came in and
Speaker 3: removed the body. Right, They now have like a cross
Speaker 3: in like a rock over it, and people leave trinkets
Speaker 3: and shit. But this is the original.
Speaker 2: So I guess my question would be, so, why let's
Speaker 2: just hypothetically say that the men in black don't matter
Speaker 2: if they're of alien descent or of human descent. Right,
Speaker 2: let's just say that the fucking men in black that
Speaker 2: are somehow, you know, the police of the universe or whatever,
Speaker 2: they they find this headstone, right, they find the headstone
Speaker 2: and the metal and the body, and none of that's
Speaker 2: there anymore. That's that's kind of peculiar to me, because,
Speaker 2: first off, who created the original headstone, because you would
Speaker 2: have to imagine that it was probably the people that
Speaker 2: lived there. And if it was just the people that
Speaker 2: lived there, then why would you take the fucking headstone anyway?
Speaker 2: Like that's not even part of anything to the story
Speaker 2: outside of just a grave marker.
Speaker 3: Because the people buried the creature in eighteen ninety seven,
Speaker 3: the headstone was removed, the body was exhumed, and all that.
Speaker 3: In the nineteen seventies, as soon as your boy Mars
Speaker 3: came around, and started doing a little bit of digging.
Speaker 3: The tombstone and the body were.
Speaker 2: Gone, which I also find peculiar because they say that
Speaker 2: it wasn't necessarily even like grave dug. There was just
Speaker 2: a pipe that was sent down to collect everything. Like
Speaker 2: there's a hole where the pipe was sent down.
Speaker 4: I think that and I might have misunderstood this.
Speaker 3: They dug the body up and just shoved a pipe
Speaker 3: in the ground after they got it out to show, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that was your fucking metal probe that you were reading,
Speaker 3: you dick.
Speaker 2: Oh all right, well well hold on, yeah, let's see
Speaker 2: what it says right here. Because I see metal pipe
Speaker 2: in the ground. We're going to get to that, so
Speaker 2: it says. Perhaps most intriguing in Aurora's UFO saga is
Speaker 2: what lies beneath a crude headstone adorned with a saucer
Speaker 2: shaped design. This marker allegedly indicates the final resting place
Speaker 2: of a small bodied alien pilot from the crashed airship.
Speaker 2: Metal detector surveys have revealed substantial metallic masses within the
Speaker 2: burial site, fueling speculation about the extratersture remains the grave marker.
Speaker 2: Mysteries depend on depend when undepened. Deepened, Sorry, they deepened
Speaker 2: when unknown parties stole the original headstone, replacing it with
Speaker 2: a replica. Further complicating potential burial excavations, someone inserted a
Speaker 2: metal pipe into the ground, making it difficult to pinpoint
Speaker 2: the exact location of the of any remains. Okay, so
Speaker 2: I thought that it was like somebody sent a pipe
Speaker 2: down there and sucked the body up or the metal
Speaker 2: up or whatever. That's what I thought. I read.
Speaker 3: No. No, so they knew that they had a metal
Speaker 3: detector that pinged that there was at least three large
Speaker 3: metal objects in the ground and they were gonna get
Speaker 3: ready to exum it. Next thing you know, you come back,
Speaker 3: the grave is dug up, the tombstone's been removed and replaced,
Speaker 3: and there's a pipe sticking out of the ground. Basically,
Speaker 3: the government officials are like, yeah, this is what made
Speaker 3: you ping leave it alone.
Speaker 2: Which I find it even more peculiar that that would
Speaker 2: even be a thing too, because this this grave site
Speaker 2: was there for fucking what seventy eighty years and nobody
Speaker 2: fucked with it until this guy started going and snooping
Speaker 2: around and asking people from whenever they were ten years old.
Speaker 2: The people that were you know, still alive and had
Speaker 2: you know, actual testimonies. It wasn't until then that the
Speaker 2: grave got exhumed and now there's no nothing remaining from it. Like,
Speaker 2: why would you let it? Why would you let it
Speaker 2: wait around for seventy plus years?
Speaker 3: Because Aurora is a small town and most people, I mean, hell,
Speaker 3: we had never heard of this until last week, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean? When I think, by the way, again,
Speaker 3: shout out to our boy, the spirit animal sam Platypus
Speaker 3: himself for putting us on this one. Like I had
Speaker 3: never heard of the UFO crash in Aurora, Texas. Most
Speaker 3: people have it. Everybody thinks of Roswell, right, everybody thinks
Speaker 3: of Area fifty one. No one thinks about this small
Speaker 3: town in Texas in the eighteen nineties.
Speaker 2: Dude, Well, it's the same thing. Even with Roswell, there
Speaker 2: was there was like UFO shit that was going on
Speaker 2: like a decade leading up to that that nobody ever
Speaker 2: really brings up unless you know the history of Roswell.
Speaker 3: That's my point. So these the small town of three
Speaker 3: hundred people, they weren't causing a stir. They had a
Speaker 3: burial for it. The remains are thrown down a well,
Speaker 3: and they just kind of it was a local, lower
Speaker 3: type of situation. It wasn't until somebody was trying to
Speaker 3: make this well known in public in the nineteen seventies
Speaker 3: when the government agency was like, oh, yeah, no, we
Speaker 3: can't have that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where I have an issue with it, though,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, obviously there was a
Speaker 2: newspaper and there was this was written about, like this
Speaker 2: was it happened to, you know, a judge's fucking lawn
Speaker 2: bro Like it wasn't just some Joe Schmoe who was
Speaker 2: trying to lie about something. So it got published in
Speaker 2: a newspaper. Why would you wait seventy years it was
Speaker 2: already talked about.
Speaker 3: Because I guess nobody was taking it serious enough. Again, Like,
Speaker 3: it wasn't like the people of Oregon and the people
Speaker 3: of New Hampshire had heard about this, even though there
Speaker 3: was a newspaper article in the local paper that was
Speaker 3: written about it. This wasn't like the New York Times.
Speaker 3: Most people have never heard about this. But this writer
Speaker 3: in the nineteen seventies was trying to make it to
Speaker 3: where everybody knew what was going on.
Speaker 2: This dickhead was just trying to call it a hoax
Speaker 2: though he was.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, not the original guy O Mars. Mars
Speaker 3: was trying to get it known by everybody. But then
Speaker 3: as soon as they went back to exhuom the grave
Speaker 3: and do more research, there's no grave, there's no metal,
Speaker 3: there's a pipe sticking out of the ground, and it's
Speaker 3: like oh wait what.
Speaker 2: Humhm, So just off top right here, do you think
Speaker 2: that that is government officials that had something to do
Speaker 2: with that, or you think that's like some galactic federation
Speaker 2: type shit that came in, Like no, because it wouldn't
Speaker 2: make more sense that it would be government.
Speaker 3: Right. Absolutely, Now, we've talked about the agency that the
Speaker 3: Men in Black movie franchise was based off of. Right,
Speaker 3: that is a real thing, and I believe that they
Speaker 3: scour the country for sure, looking for situations like this,
Speaker 3: old local legends that are under the radar. No one
Speaker 3: pays attention to them, so they're not going to send
Speaker 3: any agents out there to investigate as long as it
Speaker 3: stays within the realm of a local legend. The second
Speaker 3: it becomes something that can be verified, there's a body,
Speaker 3: there's a grave site, there's something that could be exhumed,
Speaker 3: and like, there's gonna be pictures of skeletal remains of
Speaker 3: an alien in the next week if we don't get
Speaker 3: there and get to it first. Yeah, you know, they
Speaker 3: send their goons out there to erase it.
Speaker 2: Damn ah, man, that's that sucks though, you know, because
Speaker 2: how sick would it be to see like an alien
Speaker 2: alien body or corpse at this point?
Speaker 3: See, that's my thing. Fuck the guy that's got five
Speaker 3: quote unquote mummified alien remains in Mexico. That's not real shit.
Speaker 3: This would have been real shit, an actual skeletal remains
Speaker 3: of a seventy year old body of an alien, extraterrestial,
Speaker 3: interdimensional whatever, whatever, all of it, none of it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: That was buried and preserved for this long. They could
Speaker 3: not let those pictures get out, They could not let
Speaker 3: the store get out. And if they could get to
Speaker 3: the gravesite before they got there, right, if the government
Speaker 3: agency could get there, exhume the body, remove it, throw
Speaker 3: a piece of metal in the ground. What could we throw?
Speaker 3: I got a pipe? Fuck yeah, throw that bitch in
Speaker 3: there and just completely discredit all of the research. Then
Speaker 3: they did their job.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, and as far as the Mexican alien mummies.
Speaker 2: That's not something that everybody agrees as a hoax. So
Speaker 2: I just want to say that, mind, I mean, it's
Speaker 2: it's interesting. I know that some people come to conclusion
Speaker 2: that it was like chicken bones or some kind of
Speaker 2: shit like that. That was like one of the reports.
Speaker 2: That's not what everybody was saying.
Speaker 3: Though. If that's the case, then why doesn't he have
Speaker 3: it tested by an actual lab.
Speaker 4: That's worth the fuck. If there's nothing to hide.
Speaker 3: It's the same as those people with the ship under
Speaker 3: the under the pyramids. If there's nothing to hide, your
Speaker 3: data should be able to be verified against other shit.
Speaker 2: Actually, I'll tell you why right now, because look at
Speaker 2: all the trouble these these military whistleblowers are having just
Speaker 2: even talking about certain documents nonetheless showing any any proof.
Speaker 2: So and you think about it, that that like real
Speaker 2: legit men in black like kind of black op type
Speaker 2: of contractor within the government or whatever that exists. That's
Speaker 2: an American thing, you know.
Speaker 4: So if you were to have their version of that though.
Speaker 2: Well I don't know, maybe they do, but but I
Speaker 2: just feel like if you were to bring that to
Speaker 2: the American government, the store it would never get out,
Speaker 2: you see what I'm saying. So I think that that's why,
Speaker 2: if if we are to assume that it is a
Speaker 2: possibility that the Mexican mummified little alien mummy things are real,
Speaker 2: that would be why you wouldn't bring it there, because
Speaker 2: our shit is corrupt as full.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, but our government has acknowledged that aliens
Speaker 3: are real and they're.
Speaker 2: Like cool, while providing no proof even though they have it.
Speaker 3: So if that's the case, these mummies, if you were
Speaker 3: to get how about send two of them to a lab,
Speaker 3: keep three of them you got five, Send two of
Speaker 3: them to an American lab, a UK lab, an Irish lab. Fuck,
Speaker 3: I don't know, and let them examine them. Are these
Speaker 3: skeletons carbon based? Do they mimic the anatomy of any
Speaker 3: known life form?
Speaker 7: Sure?
Speaker 2: But but here's the point though. The point is is
Speaker 2: that do you believe that the American government, whatever sector
Speaker 2: of it, has uncovered alien bodies and prevented the public
Speaker 2: from seeing it?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 7: Or no?
Speaker 3: I think they did it right here. Okay, So that
Speaker 3: was in the seventies, not twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Even more so now they still haven't come out with
Speaker 2: any of the bodies as proof.
Speaker 3: Are you telling it like a roswell and shit.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about like, in general, the government has never
Speaker 2: said we have alien bodies. Everybody, look, name one. No,
Speaker 2: there isn't one. So that would be why you would
Speaker 2: go to Mexico in my opinion. I mean, now the
Speaker 2: story might be bullshit, but I'm just saying, you know,
Speaker 2: in a hypothetical situation where it isn't bullshit, I would
Speaker 2: understand why you would do that.
Speaker 3: I get that. But it's also like it's saying that
Speaker 3: you went to Mexico to unveil this great truth that's
Speaker 3: about it's crazy as saying, like, bro, this guy who
Speaker 3: he's from like Spain, he went to Afghanistan to blow
Speaker 3: the lid off the alien com No.
Speaker 2: Afghanistan is not even remotely close to Mexico. Really, dude,
Speaker 2: are they doing fucking stem cell research in Afghanistan?
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, fair enough? Kuwait? This guy went to Kuwait
Speaker 3: to blow the lid off of it. Like, bro, wait,
Speaker 3: why I.
Speaker 2: Mean you still went to North America. No, it doesn't
Speaker 2: really even matter where you go, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It does, No, it doesn't because it's because of the
Speaker 2: restrictions of all these countries, particularly whenever it comes to
Speaker 2: shielding the truth about what may be beyond humanity, Like
Speaker 2: there's never been Canada, Oh yeah, here's proof, there's never
Speaker 2: been the United States. Oh yeah, here's proof. Here's the
Speaker 2: alien body. When's the last time the UK government came
Speaker 2: out or you know, anybody, anybody over in Europe. There's
Speaker 2: never been a government that is presented an alien body,
Speaker 2: and we know for a fucking fact that most of
Speaker 2: them either have at some point in time or still
Speaker 2: currently have access to these alien bodies. I'm with you,
Speaker 2: That's kind of my point because I and I get
Speaker 2: it like this guy, I mean, yeah, we're also talking
Speaker 2: about a guy that has been a fraud, stern, a
Speaker 2: hoax or so. I'm not even saying this particular case.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, I understand the ideology as to
Speaker 2: why you would do that.
Speaker 3: I get it. I feel like there's a better way
Speaker 3: to go about it, though, you know, how would you
Speaker 3: do it? If what you have is what would how
Speaker 3: would I do it?
Speaker 2: If you wanted to blare the alarm and get this
Speaker 2: thing tested, where would you take it?
Speaker 3: Okay? And again just speaking on behalf of myself here.
Speaker 3: I would probably go to Denmark or Finland. Uh, maybe Norway.
Speaker 2: What about what about in North America? No, absolutely not
Speaker 2: so just nowhere in North America no.
Speaker 4: Abs a fucking leleunant.
Speaker 3: So you can trust the Canadian government for corruption on
Speaker 3: one side of the aisle, can't trust the American government
Speaker 3: for corruption on the other side of the aisle. And
Speaker 3: you cannot trust anything unless southern areas of North America
Speaker 3: because like, I don't know if you've read the news
Speaker 3: lately as far as how they're like science and politics
Speaker 3: and cartels are all tied in. But like, no, nowhere
Speaker 3: south of the American border is even close to credible
Speaker 3: about shit.
Speaker 4: Well nowhere in South America.
Speaker 2: At least the cartel in Mexico didn't have this guy
Speaker 2: shot and killed, and they didn't take the alien bodies
Speaker 2: and try to shield him from being able to get
Speaker 2: the story out.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, the cartel doesn't care about that. They're
Speaker 3: about making money. This guy's not bothering that, he's not
Speaker 3: disrupting the flow of business.
Speaker 2: I mean, unless you can grind down the alien bone
Speaker 2: and like fucking grind it into some alien dust and
Speaker 2: snorted and have itself for a super high price, and
Speaker 2: everybody gets blown out of their fucking minds. Can I
Speaker 2: have a hard time imagining the cartel would have anything
Speaker 2: really to do with that.
Speaker 3: But that's my point, right, There's other labs in other
Speaker 3: countries that are like worth a fuck that don't have
Speaker 3: a dog in the fight of American politics or any
Speaker 3: of that. And I honestly wouldn't even tell them what
Speaker 3: this sample was. I would probably lie and say that
Speaker 3: this was mummified remains from a tomb undiscovered until now,
Speaker 3: and I just need you to try to give me
Speaker 3: a carbon dating on the bones. Sure, tell me you
Speaker 3: know this about it or that about or whatever, and
Speaker 3: see what they come up with. Their answers would dictate
Speaker 3: what I would do next.
Speaker 2: Here's the problem. If you're in America when you discover this,
Speaker 2: how you getting the body over there?
Speaker 3: Oh? But he didn't discover the mummies in America, allegedly,
Speaker 3: Where were they discovered at? I don't want to say, Peru.
Speaker 2: Hmm, I don't remember that.
Speaker 4: I think I might be thrown that out. I don't know, but.
Speaker 2: Anyway, yeah, that point, Yeah, we're just speaking on hypotheticals now.
Speaker 3: The Aurora, Texas crash and the body itself. They knew
Speaker 3: through ground penetrating radar that there was a small, uh
Speaker 3: you know, simar funeral plot right here, small enough for
Speaker 3: a child. They knew when it was dug because of
Speaker 3: local reports, especially because that cemetery is a very small
Speaker 3: cemetery for a town of three hundred people.
Speaker 4: So they know the goings and comings of who's buried where.
Speaker 3: And so when the local town tell you, yeah, that's
Speaker 3: where that thing is buried that crashed that night, they
Speaker 3: come in, they find the stuff. They come back a
Speaker 3: week later and there's nothing but a metal pipe sticking
Speaker 3: out of the ground that wasn't there a week prior. Yeah, sketch.
Speaker 3: Tell me there was government fuckery.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely some sketch. So anyhow, where were we the
Speaker 2: scientific analysis and archaeological evidence.
Speaker 3: I think we can start here.
Speaker 2: Actually, despite numerous okay, despite numerous requests to investigate the site,
Speaker 2: the Aurora Cemetery Association has consistently blocked all attempts to
Speaker 2: exhume the grave, leaving the truth about what's buried there
Speaker 2: shrouded in mystery.
Speaker 3: Now why would they do that, right, especially now this
Speaker 3: could be this town's claim to fame the first quote
Speaker 3: unquote first alien crash in America. You would think that
Speaker 3: they would hold on to that naked a tourist attraction
Speaker 3: like Roswell did the funeral grounds refuse to let people dig.
Speaker 3: I find that to be odd. Yeah, it could only
Speaker 3: be good for the town if even if it is
Speaker 3: a complete hoax, it could be good for the town.
Speaker 3: How many towns have gotten famous off of Sasquatch sightings
Speaker 3: and things like that and lean into it and have
Speaker 3: whole Sasquatch cafes and shit.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe they don't want it to be big though,
Speaker 2: because it says as of twenty twenty three, Aurora, Texas
Speaker 2: as a population of only fourteen hundred and fifty three people.
Speaker 3: Oh it's gotten a little bigger. How about that?
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, in one hundred years a little bigger.
Speaker 3: Again, that's that's less than the entire population of my
Speaker 3: high school in twenty ten. Dude, we had sixteen hundred
Speaker 3: and like fifty kids at that high school.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure we had that many kids like in
Speaker 2: my grade.
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying. So, like it's a small town.
Speaker 3: That might an exaggeration, but from keeping it small.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well they could just want to keep it small,
Speaker 2: or there's some truth to it.
Speaker 3: So uh.
Speaker 2: Scientific analysis and archael logical evidence, it says scientific investigations
Speaker 2: into the Aurora incident have yielded intriguing physical evidence beyond
Speaker 2: the mysterious grave site. While disputed burial records continued to
Speaker 2: fuel debate, physical analysis has revealed critical findings that challenged
Speaker 2: the persuasive scientific consensus about what really happened in eighteen
Speaker 2: ninety seven. The key discoveries include number one, metal fragments
Speaker 2: with unexplainable properties, as confirmed by a North Texas State
Speaker 2: University professor's analysis. Number two ground penetrating radar detection of
Speaker 2: deteriorated remains in the Onmark grave, and number three well
Speaker 2: watered samples showing unusually high aluminum concentrations. The detection of
Speaker 2: the windmill of a windmill base at the crash site
Speaker 2: initially seemed to debunk the UFO theory. However, you'll find
Speaker 2: that this evidence actually validates witness accounts that mentioned a
Speaker 2: windmill's presence. The Cemetery Association's persistent blocking of exhumation efforts
Speaker 2: or has left essential questions unanswered. Despite the significant physical
Speaker 2: evidence uncovered. How much money you think it would take
Speaker 2: to pay one of those fuckers off a grand.
Speaker 3: Oh no, way more than a cran. But at the
Speaker 3: same time, there is a price tag. I promise you
Speaker 3: there's a price tag.
Speaker 2: There absolutely is. Maybe I mean, just person, you.
Speaker 3: Don't need to plot their cost that that'd be a
Speaker 3: good like balling your band to go off of you.
Speaker 2: And look, you don't need to convince the entire administration.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 3: I'm just a guy who's the caretaker of the funeral plot.
Speaker 2: Who's there right now? Right, I need you to go
Speaker 2: for a walk and I'll i'll you know, I'll dig
Speaker 2: it up and then I'll rebury it. I'll resought it.
Speaker 2: You won't even know that I was there.
Speaker 3: But I wonder if it's because it was it's a
Speaker 3: Masonic funeral owned plot, that they are the actual officiating
Speaker 3: body that won't allow it to happen, which ties into
Speaker 3: them having other types of knowledge about things that we don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're.
Speaker 2: Even still holding up the whole Masonic thing now, because.
Speaker 3: That's very true. They sold the land to the town,
Speaker 3: so I don't know that they have any dog in
Speaker 3: this fight whatsoever. But I'm just saying it's an interesting
Speaker 3: extra addition to the store.
Speaker 2: I can imagine you get one of the grave guys
Speaker 2: that is working there late at night. He's making what
Speaker 2: fifteen bucks an hour, probably not even that, right, He's
Speaker 2: just there to maintain the headstones. He's there to you know,
Speaker 2: cut the grass and weed eat and make sure that
Speaker 2: they're you know, getting rid of the old flowers and
Speaker 2: you know, all the garbage that people leave over it
Speaker 2: at the grave sites whenever they go and visit their
Speaker 2: loved ones and stuff like that. You give him a grand,
Speaker 2: bro you give him, I'll get I'll even pump it up,
Speaker 2: give him, give him two grand. He's gonna take that.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say, look, buddy, you you fell asleep,
Speaker 2: or you went to go walk to the store, you
Speaker 2: needed an energy drink to be able to stay up
Speaker 2: or something like that, and whenever you came back, now
Speaker 2: there just seemed to be some kind of new sod
Speaker 2: that was laid, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, but if anybody living in
Speaker 3: the Dallas Fort Worth area wants to take a twenty
Speaker 3: mile ride north and go to Aurora and ask the
Speaker 3: caretaker of the cemetery plot for this type of bribery.
Speaker 4: Listen, we would love to hear a report.
Speaker 2: I think because this is what did it say, like
Speaker 2: an hour outside of Dallas.
Speaker 4: Like thirty minutes outside of Dallas twenty miles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a four hour drive from me. I
Speaker 2: might have to take a little little cruise.
Speaker 3: Why not.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying that I have an extra
Speaker 2: two grand to throw away by any means. But still
Speaker 2: it'd be interesting just to poke and prod to see,
Speaker 2: you know, how he would scurry or she would scurry.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe it's a girl that's doing that
Speaker 2: kind of job nowadays.
Speaker 3: Hey, yet another reason for the good cult members to
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Speaker 3: the place to go. Sung it out. But all right,
Speaker 3: so all of that being said, we don't know the
Speaker 3: situation with the grave site, but there's a lot of
Speaker 3: questions and a lot of uh it sounds like some malarkey, Okay,
Speaker 3: it sounds like some some tomfoolery going down in Aurora,
Speaker 3: Texas with the cemetery.
Speaker 2: Plots, like double tapped on that one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, fuck you.
Speaker 3: But I personally believe that the inhabitants of the town
Speaker 3: would have known if they were burying the Burt bodily
Speaker 3: remains of a human pilot of an airship that wasn't
Speaker 3: crazy unknown technology at that time, or if they were
Speaker 3: burying something non human. I feel like they would have
Speaker 3: at least had that kind of uh wherewithal to understand
Speaker 3: that that's what was happening here.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing, and that's the thing with a
Speaker 2: lot of these alien stories that we've been talking about lately.
Speaker 2: A lot of these people really have nothing to gain
Speaker 2: from this. You know, these people didn't end up becoming millionaires.
Speaker 2: They you know, you know what I mean, Like, they
Speaker 2: didn't their names weren't etched in history, and they're now
Speaker 2: regarded as the alien observer of whatever fucking year.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: It didn't even get a new windmal out the deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, it's just the stump or whatever where it
Speaker 2: was being held.
Speaker 3: Right. So all that to say, now, let's talk about
Speaker 3: that guy that wrote that news article S. Hayden, because
Speaker 3: apparently there's a case for it being all a hoax
Speaker 3: made up by this one guy who wrote the story.
Speaker 2: All right, Many skeptics point to S. E. Hayden, a
Speaker 2: Dallas Morning News reporter, as the designer behind what they
Speaker 2: believe was an elaborate hoax designed to save the struggling
Speaker 2: town of Aurora. Known for his reputation as a prankster
Speaker 2: in the community, Hayden's single article about the UFO crash
Speaker 2: raised immediate suspicions about its authenticity. The lack of follow
Speaker 2: up reporting by Hayden himself as strengthened the case for
Speaker 2: a fabricated story. Further doubt was cast in nineteen seventy
Speaker 2: nine when historian Eta Pig's challenged key elements of Hayden's
Speaker 2: account in a Time magazine interview. She particularly disputed the
Speaker 2: existence of the w mill on Judge Proctor's property, a
Speaker 2: central detail in the original story.
Speaker 3: Even though right here it said that, you know, the
Speaker 3: fact that there was a platform for a windmill to
Speaker 3: stand on actually leads it credence.
Speaker 2: In the other article, I think it even showed the picture.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it showed the not the platform. Sorry, the slab
Speaker 3: where a windmill once stood, so her saying that there
Speaker 3: was no windmill and they're being a slab for a windmill. Sorry,
Speaker 3: one of these people are lying and there's still a
Speaker 3: fucking slab for a windmill to this day. So okay,
Speaker 3: Well not like The Times magazine is known for being
Speaker 3: the most honest ever.
Speaker 2: And let's be real here. I mean, if this was
Speaker 2: the American Men in Black per se, you wouldn't just
Speaker 2: go and rob a gravesite. You would infiltrate the story
Speaker 2: through and through. You would have people that would be
Speaker 2: trying to debunk and stuff like that to say that
Speaker 2: these people were crazy, like is wouldn't that be the
Speaker 2: smart move if you were, If you were to go
Speaker 2: in there and take everything away, you would cover all ends.
Speaker 3: In this how this goes deny, deny, deny, make counter accusations,
Speaker 3: implement others, bury the story. I feel like we just
Speaker 3: talked about this two days ago and I said these
Speaker 3: exact words.
Speaker 2: I don't know exactly. Yeah, with what was it, Project
Speaker 2: Mockingbird or Operation Mockingbird, whatever it was, It's like they've
Speaker 2: all infiltrated, and Time magazine was one of them.
Speaker 3: If you remember, yep, That's that's how this goes, dude.
Speaker 3: Anytime there's a cover up, you'll see a whole list
Speaker 3: of denials. There will be counter accusations. There will be
Speaker 3: character witnesses saying that this person and this person who
Speaker 3: are eyewitnesses are full of shit. They'll they're just shove
Speaker 3: their character down the toilet and call out things from
Speaker 3: they stole a stick of bubble gum in middle school.
Speaker 3: You can't trust a word this liar. It's the wildest shit,
Speaker 3: the wildest shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this all or was
Speaker 3: trying to help the struggling town of three hundred people
Speaker 3: from obscurity by saying that they got crashed into by
Speaker 3: an alien. That wasn't even a big talking point at
Speaker 3: that time. Bro, What No, what logic is there to that?
Speaker 3: Why wasn't there a follow up done to it? Because
Speaker 3: the records was thrown down a well, because the body
Speaker 3: was buried, and because the town wanted to move on
Speaker 3: with their lives and nobody got famous from it. The
Speaker 3: town isn't even known as a UFO town. Even though
Speaker 3: this is one of the earliest reports confirmed quote unquote
Speaker 3: confirmed in America. The town didn't even try to cash
Speaker 3: in on it.
Speaker 2: That's why recent investigations into the Aurora incident have unearthed
Speaker 2: and triggering physical evidence that complicates the hoax theory. Modern
Speaker 2: UFO sightings in the area continued to draw parallels to
Speaker 2: the nineteen or to the eighteen ninety seven events, suggesting
Speaker 2: a possible connection to an ongoing phenomenon. The changing community
Speaker 2: viewpoints have led to these key discoveries. Number One, metal
Speaker 2: fragments found near the alleged craft site contained un usual
Speaker 2: isotopic ratios that don't match typical earth materials.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry right there.
Speaker 2: Sorry, what are we talking about a fucking meteor because
Speaker 2: that's about the only way that would happen.
Speaker 3: But this is all okay, fine, even if that's the case,
Speaker 3: This was a slow flying craft. All eyewitnesses that didn't
Speaker 3: say it came crashing down super fast and wyel them
Speaker 3: and left a crater at all. Actually it was slow flying.
Speaker 3: I've never heard of a slow meteor before, Jonathan, I
Speaker 3: don't know about you.
Speaker 2: Good point Number two, ground penetrating radar surveys have revealed
Speaker 2: anomalous subsurface structures near the reported burial site.
Speaker 3: Agreed and numbers, and I mean in a grave cemetery
Speaker 3: you're gonna have underground things.
Speaker 4: That's how this goes.
Speaker 3: But there are some weird anomalies around this particular grave
Speaker 3: site that had a metal pipe put in it, quote unquote.
Speaker 4: It just none of that checks out either.
Speaker 2: Anomal list subsurface structures near the reported burial site.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: So and then there was chemical number three, which is
Speaker 2: chemical analysis of soil samples show traces of elements uncommon
Speaker 2: to the region's natural geology.
Speaker 3: So like, for instance, I don't know this. Jacob's not
Speaker 3: speaking on behalf of the world here, I'm just asking
Speaker 3: the question. So you're saying you found chunks of aluminum
Speaker 3: in the ground when there's no alumina or out. You know,
Speaker 3: however they pronounce that alumina mines in or around Aurora, Texas.
Speaker 3: Would that possibly be some sort of crazy samples that
Speaker 3: were discovered that don't make sense why they'd be there.
Speaker 3: That'd be like finding volcanic rock in Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Speaker 3: where there's no volcano around. Yeah, I would call that
Speaker 3: a bit of a red flag dog.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is called anomalous phenomena, right, Like, this is
Speaker 2: something that it's not common, it's unusual. You're not gonna
Speaker 2: find it, and whenever you do find it, it doesn't
Speaker 2: make sense, and so they typically would you allude to
Speaker 2: that as anomalist phenomena. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean that
Speaker 2: it's alien or otherworldly or anything else. Could be something
Speaker 2: else entirely, But that being said, you're finding this at
Speaker 2: an alleged UFO crash site in which you had how
Speaker 2: many testimonies of eyewitness testimonies that say that they saw
Speaker 2: this and there was a grave site for a fucking
Speaker 2: alien and you're finding you're finding this anomaloust phenomena right there, right, Okay,
Speaker 2: I got a problem with that.
Speaker 3: There's too many things, too many red flags on the plane.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, there's way too many.
Speaker 2: Too many. It says. You can see how these findings
Speaker 2: have promoted or prompted rather researchers to reconsider the case's authenticity.
Speaker 2: Though definitive proof remains elusive, local historians now maintain a
Speaker 2: more complex view of the incident, acknowledging both skeptical and
Speaker 2: paranormal possibilities. The final thoughts in the article, it says
Speaker 2: the UFO the Aurora UFO's incidents influence on modern UFO
Speaker 2: culture cannot be overstated. You'll find that its impact evident
Speaker 2: in the town's community involvement, where locals have reshaped the
Speaker 2: crash site into a tourist destination, complete with a historic
Speaker 2: marker that commemorates this mysterious event. I would hardly say
Speaker 2: that it's a tourist destination with a historical marker. You're
Speaker 2: talking about Literally, it didn't even get its own plaque,
Speaker 2: bro like this. It was a part of a plaque
Speaker 2: that included a lot of other shit.
Speaker 3: Right, there's a whole cemetery marker talking about the history
Speaker 3: of when this cemetery was founded. Confederate dude, bought it
Speaker 3: from the Free and Accepted Lodge of the Masons. There's
Speaker 3: a child buried here by the way, there's this crazy
Speaker 3: alien story whatever, and now people still get buried here today.
Speaker 4: That was a fucking footnote.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't even like dedicated specifically to the UFO
Speaker 2: thing exactly. So yeah, I would hardly say that that
Speaker 2: the town is trying to cash in if that's all
Speaker 2: day dude. So yeah, it says the cases. Media influence
Speaker 2: has grown dramatically through numerous documentaries and TV shows, including
Speaker 2: UFO Files and UFO Hunters. Which have brought Aurora's story
Speaker 2: to global audiences. You'll notice parallels drawn between this eighteen
Speaker 2: ninety seven incident and the famous Roswell case, cementing Aurora's
Speaker 2: place and UFO folklore. Even the controversy surrounding the missing
Speaker 2: grave marker and attempted exhumations has fueled ongoing debates. While
Speaker 2: definitive proof remains elusive, Aurora's legacy endors as a fascinating
Speaker 2: chapter that continues to enthraw both believers and skeptics in
Speaker 2: the UFO research community.
Speaker 3: Indeed, indeed, now let's hear from an eye witness, shall we.
Speaker 3: This one here is from Texas ufologists. I'm sorry, TEXASUFO
Speaker 3: Sightings dot Com. And this has a little bit of
Speaker 3: a mixture of things. Some of it's going to sound repetitive.
Speaker 3: It's the overarching story, yes, but this gives a little
Speaker 3: bit of a different insight into what happened because it's
Speaker 3: the actual eyewitness testimony.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Well, this was documented in November tenth of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty in Aurora. They say that they saw a
Speaker 2: large stationary triangular UFO with blue lights. The quote is,
Speaker 2: I noticed an extremely large, dark triangle shape and the
Speaker 2: sky almost directly above me.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So some of this is more modern, but
Speaker 3: it all harkens back to the original.
Speaker 4: In eighteen ninety seven, Let's go.
Speaker 2: It said a large triangle with transparent looking exterior lights
Speaker 2: had a blue hue. Was driving home at nine pm
Speaker 2: in the country back road of FM seven one eight.
Speaker 2: It is very dark and there are some stairs visible
Speaker 2: out here. I note it up stairs stars. Yeah, sorry,
Speaker 2: I was like, stars, how are you seeing the stairs? Anyway,
Speaker 2: it says I noticed an extremely large, dark triangle shape
Speaker 2: and the sky almost directly above me. It did not
Speaker 2: appear to be moving, but more so hovering. Sounds a
Speaker 2: little bit like the story, right, like not moving very
Speaker 2: fast going ten to twelve miles an hour. You would
Speaker 2: call that hovering.
Speaker 3: Right, I would.
Speaker 2: Each corner of the triangle has a light with a
Speaker 2: blue hue to it. Each light was twice the size
Speaker 2: of the Northern Star and was very bright. As soon
Speaker 2: as I turned on FM four six six eight. That's
Speaker 2: the thing out here in Texas, all the roads are
Speaker 2: FM something. I don't even know what the fuck that
Speaker 2: stands for. I don't know. I'm like, dude, are you
Speaker 2: trying to point me to a radio station or what.
Speaker 3: Is this supposed the federal marker? That's a highway number, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yea. Even in Katie they got FM street
Speaker 2: names and shit, I'm like, what the fuck? Anyway, So
Speaker 2: as soon as I turned on FM four six six eight,
Speaker 2: the object was out of view. A short time later,
Speaker 2: I saw an airplane that was moving at a regular
Speaker 2: speed and had flashing red and yellow lights. Although no
Speaker 2: photos or videos were taken of this encounter, triangle you
Speaker 2: are very common, and I have covered them many times
Speaker 2: over the years. Here are some recent examples to compare.
Speaker 3: Okay, now these are recent. You see that flying triangle.
Speaker 3: The plane has lights like that.
Speaker 2: Let me see that in real life, I.
Speaker 4: Mean yeah, but you also see the orbs that.
Speaker 2: Dude, I mean yeah, it's not making up some kind
Speaker 2: of larger craft. It almost seems like individual kind of
Speaker 2: things whatever it is. I mean. And that's the thing
Speaker 2: with the orbs, like they're so high up in the sky.
Speaker 2: It could be maneuvering stars for all I know. And
Speaker 2: I don't even think stars maneuver like that, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So but it absolutely not you know, satellite,
Speaker 2: absolutely not an airplane, absolutely not a helicopter or any
Speaker 2: kind of military aircraft, because you would hear something. I mean,
Speaker 2: I was out in the middle of the fucking woods, bro,
Speaker 2: I would have heard it, you know.
Speaker 3: Indeed, indeed, now this person is talking about their own
Speaker 3: personal experience in and around or a Texas hold up.
Speaker 3: But now they get into the historical go up.
Speaker 2: Just a cunt hair, here we go. So when this
Speaker 2: was June twenty seven to twenty twenty four thirty or
Speaker 2: five pm in San Antonio, the triangle UFO is seen
Speaker 2: flying low and hovering in one instance. This is the
Speaker 2: picture preceded by rumbling trumpet sounds.
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Is that some mellowheem shit bro, It's possible. Anyway, I
Speaker 2: saw I saw rumbling trumpet sounds. I was like, hold on,
Speaker 2: I got to read that part.
Speaker 3: I heard that.
Speaker 9: So.
Speaker 2: Aurora, Texas, interestingly enough, is the location of the of
Speaker 2: one of the most famous UFO sightings and crashes of
Speaker 2: all time. According to local news reports, in eighteen ninety seven,
Speaker 2: a cigar shaped ship crashed into the town of Aurora
Speaker 2: and a deceased alien body was recovered and buried. It
Speaker 2: is it possible aliens have kept visiting Aurora ever since anyway,
Speaker 2: as always, if you've seen a UFO, perhaps a triangle
Speaker 2: report your sighting.
Speaker 3: Indeed, now the written unknown hieroglyphics with the Aurora crash,
Speaker 3: Now this is the part of the arc I really
Speaker 3: wanted to get to. Yeah, the person with the modern
Speaker 3: day sightings. I'm not dismissing those. I'm not saying that,
Speaker 3: you know, okay whatever, fuck that. No, no, no, no, I'm with you.
Speaker 3: We do need to talk about those. But it's this
Speaker 3: episode is about the eighteen ninety seven crash.
Speaker 2: You know, sure, but it still sets precedent that there's
Speaker 2: still this kind of shit happening over this tiny little
Speaker 2: town because it's said earlier, whenever I was looking up
Speaker 2: the population, it was only like, dude, it's only like
Speaker 2: one and a half miles big, Like that's why it
Speaker 2: doesn't have that many people there. Like, it's a tiny
Speaker 2: little town.
Speaker 3: I would call it a village. Honestly, dude, it's not
Speaker 3: even like a proper city, a proper town. I mean
Speaker 3: they you know what.
Speaker 2: A cool name though for aliens to come Aurora. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like it just checks out. I'm with you, so, uh,
Speaker 2: it says, all right, gets into the Texas Crash to
Speaker 2: seee alien body found in the wreckage. Many people know
Speaker 2: the story, and in fact, some will even visit Aurora
Speaker 2: just to learn about the famous UFO crash and take
Speaker 2: a picture next to the iconic cemetery plaque that mentions it. However,
Speaker 2: not as many know that the alien body that was
Speaker 2: found had papers on it, papers that appear to contain
Speaker 2: unknown hieroglyphics. Ufo Jane discusses this amazing detail in the
Speaker 2: video below and explores other cases like it. So obviously
Speaker 2: not this this is Egyptian hieroglyphs right here.
Speaker 3: But so this is the picture of the crash that
Speaker 3: we talked about earlier. This is the article written by
Speaker 3: our guy who allegedly was a hoaxer because he was
Speaker 3: known to pull off a practical joke from time to time,
Speaker 3: right and all these things. Yeah, so, I actually don't
Speaker 3: know how long this video is, and if it's super long,
Speaker 3: then we're not We're not gonna watch the entirety of it.
Speaker 3: You know when I watched a twelve minute video.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, that's all right.
Speaker 3: She brings up.
Speaker 10: Are very eerily reminiscent of m seen during another equally
Speaker 10: well documented but not quite as famous Eupho case, the
Speaker 10: rendulationhm Ufo case.
Speaker 11: And these geometric symbols and these that were seen during
Speaker 11: the rendleassham Ufo included a triangle with this sphere on
Speaker 11: the top.
Speaker 10: The rentless m Ufo is considered to be brick.
Speaker 3: Now, real quick, I would call those a form of
Speaker 3: hieroglyphics right now. Obviously they don't look like the Egyptian hieroglyphics,
Speaker 3: but we don't have many other things on this planet
Speaker 3: to confer that against, right.
Speaker 2: A lot like your boy Danny Gohler trying to explain
Speaker 2: what he's seeing on the other side in the DMT.
Speaker 3: Realm Okay, I mean what he described didn't look like this,
Speaker 3: But to your point, I mean he was like this
Speaker 3: unknown to us, Well he was.
Speaker 2: He compared it to the Egyptian hieroglyphs and the Japanese
Speaker 2: symbols or whatever. Too so, and that's what's hard about it, Like,
Speaker 2: how do you describe something like this, Like, right, the
Speaker 2: only thing that you would be able to compare it
Speaker 2: to would be Egyptian And that's not even doing it
Speaker 2: a due service.
Speaker 3: It's like, none of this looks like anything from this planet.
Speaker 3: I've never seen a language written pictographic, pictatorially that looks
Speaker 3: anything like this.
Speaker 2: That being said, I don't know what every Egyptian symbol
Speaker 2: looks like either.
Speaker 4: That's fair, that's fair, But I mean, even these symbols.
Speaker 3: Hold on appearing on these this doesn't look like anything
Speaker 3: we have seen before either.
Speaker 2: Oh he also said that it kind of looked Hebrew, too,
Speaker 2: didn't he?
Speaker 4: I think he did. I mean, but that's the thing.
Speaker 3: If you're trying to describe something that you've never seen before,
Speaker 3: you're doing your best to compare it against something that
Speaker 3: would make sense to other people.
Speaker 4: But it's not gonna do it justice.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't say that it looks Spanish or Portuguese or French,
Speaker 2: because those still are they still look like regular letters
Speaker 2: of the alphabet, you know what I'm saying. These are
Speaker 2: more symbols than they are letters.
Speaker 3: So all right, So we have this hieroglyphic writing on
Speaker 3: papers and apparently on some of the craft and the
Speaker 3: pieces from this crash from a quote unquote airship from
Speaker 3: some secret society out of California that no one's ever
Speaker 3: fucking heard of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it says the mystery aircraft reported in Texas
Speaker 2: just days before famous eighteen ninety seven Aurora, Texas UFO crash.
Speaker 2: Old news headlines reveal. It says, all right, so this
Speaker 2: was April eighteenth, eighteen ninety seven, multiple cities in Texas,
Speaker 2: including Fort Worth, with a mysterious aircraft with searchlights. Oh
Speaker 2: is this the same one or a different one?
Speaker 3: So apparently there was more sightings around this time a
Speaker 3: couple weeks later.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, all right, so it says you may know
Speaker 2: about the story of the large cigar shaped aircraft, the
Speaker 2: craft that crashed over Aurora, Texas in eighteen ninety seven,
Speaker 2: well before the Wright brothers first took flight, and UFOs
Speaker 2: could could be easily debunked as planes or drones. But
Speaker 2: did you know that just a few days after that
Speaker 2: amazing incident, other sightings of the of the mystery airship
Speaker 2: were reported over Texas Space.
Speaker 3: Miss three air shoot not the one the one crashed.
Speaker 2: A mystery right, specifically in the cities of Sherman, Fort Worth, Hillsboro, Marshall,
Speaker 2: and Paris, Texas. It is worth noting that there were
Speaker 2: other sightings of mystery airships reported throughout the world in
Speaker 2: the late eighteen hundreds coincidence. As always, you'd be the Judge.
Speaker 3: Okay, now this is this is kind of like a
Speaker 3: strange and startling. It's a sign letting you know that
Speaker 3: something happened here. But there's more things here. Bro.
Speaker 4: Another eyewitness account.
Speaker 2: At least three young men who are camping upon Bull
Speaker 2: Creek at Huddle's Point say they saw it. What is that?
Speaker 3: Messrs Geo, Yeah, this is the name, Messrs Geopwell, Ted
Speaker 3: Towan and Jazz Calwell.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I thought that was like a military shortening
Speaker 2: of something. Went up to the lake Saturday, Saturday afternoon
Speaker 2: for a couple of days camp and pitch their tents.
Speaker 2: At about three am, it began to reign and the
Speaker 2: men were held to get up and fasten the tent.
Speaker 2: It was at that time that they saw the mysterious aircraft.
Speaker 2: They claim it was in sight fully for fifteen minutes
Speaker 2: and are positive that they could not be mistaken. At
Speaker 2: intervals of every few seconds, it would throw at searchlights,
Speaker 2: and the boys say that the light looked as big
Speaker 2: as four ordinary arc lights.
Speaker 3: So is it possible that and this is a couple
Speaker 3: weeks after this crash, is it possible that whoever was
Speaker 3: on this craft their homeboys came looking for them.
Speaker 2: Try to get a little retrieval action.
Speaker 3: Going possibly, or just to see what the hell happened.
Speaker 3: You know, last known coordinates were here? Will hell send
Speaker 3: out a search team?
Speaker 2: So weird. So, according to the local news in Aurora, Texas,
Speaker 2: a strange and very large cigar shaped craft crashed into
Speaker 2: a windmill. Okay, we already read that, which I've only
Speaker 2: read made recently. Give the case tremendous weight. Okay, yeah, well,
Speaker 2: there seems to be a lot of shit going on
Speaker 2: in Aurora.
Speaker 3: Indeed, indeed, now this one is actually from a.
Speaker 4: News radio Actually, what was the next article I was
Speaker 4: looking at?
Speaker 3: Next? Okay, okay, okay, good. This is actually from a
Speaker 3: local radio channel, ninety five to five FM KLAQ, and
Speaker 3: they talk about the Texas famous UFO sightings throughout history. Now,
Speaker 3: of course they're going to bring up Aurora, but there's
Speaker 3: been others, Big.
Speaker 2: Dog, thank you for tuning in to KLAQ ninety five
Speaker 2: point five FM, el Paso's best rock. Good God, Oh
Speaker 2: that sound that sounded very radio esque.
Speaker 3: I'll give you. I'll get props.
Speaker 2: We've been in front of a mic for too long. Anyway,
Speaker 2: It says the UFOs fly for Texas. Oh yes they do.
Speaker 2: According to this story by Newsweek, Texas ranks amongst the
Speaker 2: states with the most UFO sightings six and eighty eight.
Speaker 2: It's nineteen ninety five. Good god, But which ones are
Speaker 2: the most famous u UFO sightings? And it gets into
Speaker 2: the cigar shaped one that we're having the show about.
Speaker 2: But another one.
Speaker 3: So I want to I want to see about this
Speaker 3: video right here, because that's the original tombstone. Let's check
Speaker 3: it out. Oh yeah, that's the video for.
Speaker 5: A story like this.
Speaker 7: Tayter Injunction local cafe.
Speaker 5: A place called Tater Junction is as good a place
Speaker 5: to start as in any order. It's where Frankie Shorty
Speaker 5: Miller gets his.
Speaker 7: Coffee almost every day after my office, most of the time.
Speaker 5: Where his cup of joke comes back with a dirty
Speaker 5: joke or too.
Speaker 7: Oh I hang on down on dirty one on TV.
Speaker 3: I really remember. I told you there's that old guy
Speaker 3: who just like has the knowledge of the town. This
Speaker 3: is your guy, Frankie.
Speaker 5: Maybe a tall tale or two along the way.
Speaker 7: I've heard ten different stories I've heard about the marshan
Speaker 7: it chrast own Aurora e on what they did with
Speaker 7: the bodies and all this stuff.
Speaker 5: Because this is Aurora, Texas, forty minutes north of Fort Worth,
Speaker 5: where in eighteen ninety seven the Dallas Morning News wrote
Speaker 5: about a terrific explosion, a flying saucer colliding with a windmill,
Speaker 5: and a badly disfigured pilot they found who was not
Speaker 5: an inhabitant of this world, which explains the historic marker
Speaker 5: bearing that story at the old Aurora Cemetery, and why
Speaker 5: amid the gravestones of Aurora's founding fathers and mothers.
Speaker 9: They're still a huge divide between the believers and non believers.
Speaker 5: You can find the city administrator sitting on a rock.
Speaker 9: I had ordered the placement of this rock here because
Speaker 9: people wanted to know where he was.
Speaker 5: He is the UFO pilot, the one they've since named ned,
Speaker 5: the one who early Aurora settlers supposedly offered a good
Speaker 5: Christian burial on this spot, underneath a narled tree protected
Speaker 5: by a hive of bees, where visitors now use markers
Speaker 5: to claim the rock and the spot where his earthly
Speaker 5: resting place supposedly came to be.
Speaker 9: I think it's a fun story. I'm not entirely sure
Speaker 9: it happened.
Speaker 3: But after a short walk this has been one of
Speaker 3: the biggest cover ups ever.
Speaker 5: To Aurora's tiny city hall.
Speaker 3: This is the smoking gun.
Speaker 5: A believer of the and of Ned Mannequin are awfully
Speaker 5: easy to find.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it happened.
Speaker 5: Jim Mars is an author, conspiracy theorist, and newspaper reporter
Speaker 5: who covered this story decades ago when he and a.
Speaker 7: Friend we found readings, found.
Speaker 5: Evidence of metal fragments at the grave. But then the
Speaker 5: next day they were gone and someone took Ned's original
Speaker 5: headstone too.
Speaker 7: He said, I mean it was the government, And I said,
Speaker 7: I think you're right. I think they've been aware of
Speaker 7: what really happened at Aurora and have been keeping tabs.
Speaker 5: On it, but keeping tabs on the story. From his
Speaker 5: outposted Tater Junction, Frankie Miller had a suggestion find the
Speaker 5: UFO and the shattered metal pieces. The locals decided.
Speaker 2: That would have been hard.
Speaker 5: When to get around to bury in a farmer's well,
Speaker 5: I might have been in a whale of vingt So
Speaker 5: we found.
Speaker 3: It's been a story foreed.
Speaker 5: It's Jackie Stone's well. Is this the old well? This
Speaker 5: whole here? This is it his granddad's well. He always
Speaker 5: told him the story it's the best story you'll ever hear.
Speaker 5: Even told him. These are the trees near the old
Speaker 5: windmill where Ned and his disintegrating flying saucer met their feet.
Speaker 5: That right there seems like it's never got even bigger. Yeah, well,
Speaker 5: spaceship will do that to it.
Speaker 6: It's a damn good story and it's not going away.
Speaker 5: Whatever happened here one hundred and twenty years ago, or
Speaker 5: at least the story that started here one hundred and
Speaker 5: twenty years ago, help put Aurora taxes on the map.
Speaker 5: But now as they re embraced the legend of Ned,
Speaker 5: these one hundred and twenty years later they're helping. They're
Speaker 5: spot on the map pen finally get a little bit bigger.
Speaker 5: They're building a stainless steel monument, complete with the windmill,
Speaker 5: at the entrance to town. The UFO is the Aurora
Speaker 5: city logo. They're even putting it on coffee cups, hoping
Speaker 5: Ned one hundred and twenty years later, this has.
Speaker 9: Been in plans for about three years.
Speaker 5: Can bring a few more tourist dollars to tenn. She
Speaker 5: believes tips, a Tator Junction waitress would be happy to see.
Speaker 2: We have to have one claim to fame everybody does.
Speaker 2: I want to believe it.
Speaker 5: I really do so at this point, you're asking yourself,
Speaker 5: why not just dig up the alien grave and see
Speaker 5: if Ned is still inside?
Speaker 9: Let the alien lie where he.
Speaker 5: May, because the city administrator says they can't.
Speaker 9: There's a law in the state of Texas that says
Speaker 9: you have to notify the next of ken before you
Speaker 9: exoom remains. And obviously we do not know any other nets.
Speaker 5: So whether they ever dig or not, the legend lives
Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty years in.
Speaker 7: Counting believer is not really quite exact. I believe in
Speaker 7: a god.
Speaker 10: I know they are UFOs.
Speaker 7: There's a good potu miiling, real good potform miilony.
Speaker 5: A real good possibility at least that the legend.
Speaker 4: Of Ned aliens Bury will likely.
Speaker 5: Outlive us all in Aurora, Texas.
Speaker 2: Kevin Reese, Okay, damn, I just looked it up. The
Speaker 2: Tater Junction. It's closed permanently now, damn.
Speaker 3: But it's okay.
Speaker 2: It's only what is that for two hundred and seventy
Speaker 2: eight miles away from me?
Speaker 3: But look, the town tried. They're trying to make it
Speaker 3: more of a tourist attraction now. But you heard what
Speaker 3: she said. There is a law in the state of
Speaker 3: Texas that if you are going to exzoom remains, you
Speaker 3: have to notify the next of kin, and since they
Speaker 3: don't know the next of kin to an alien, by law,
Speaker 3: they're not allowed to exumin. I'm sorry, did they just
Speaker 3: admit that it's an alien? The city official just acknowledged
Speaker 3: that because it's an alien, they don't know who next
Speaker 3: of kin is, so they can't exum. It was that
Speaker 3: in the minutes.
Speaker 2: Ain't nothing but a four hour and twelve minute drive
Speaker 2: for me. Baby. Look, I might have to do a
Speaker 2: little speculating myself right now.
Speaker 3: I don't know what kind of poems you have to
Speaker 3: grease to get it approved by the state of Texas
Speaker 3: to exzuome a possible alien.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I'm not saying e zoom, but uh,
Speaker 2: maybe I'll go whisper in some ears, you know, see
Speaker 2: what happens.
Speaker 3: I don't see why not. But also, seriously, dude, that
Speaker 3: I didn't know that that was the law in that
Speaker 3: you can't pull up the remains of a body unless
Speaker 3: you notify the next of kin. And since Ned doesn't
Speaker 3: have a next of kin on this earth, that's find
Speaker 3: it to be very crazy.
Speaker 2: He doesn't doesn't have an ex of kin that we know.
Speaker 3: Well, in a court of law, that would be an
Speaker 3: admittance of guilt, right, that that would be grounds to
Speaker 3: stand on to say that they just acknowledge that this
Speaker 3: is in fact an alien.
Speaker 2: I wonder if anybody is ever like so, I wonder
Speaker 2: if this, if this actually was taken by some kind
Speaker 2: of men in black, type of American contractor of the government,
Speaker 2: type of entity, right, right, I wonder do you think
Speaker 2: that you'd be able to get afea FOYA request for that? No,
Speaker 2: not even possible.
Speaker 3: Well, I say that whenever you put in a foiler
Speaker 3: request you have to be very specific. You can't just say, hey,
Speaker 3: give me everything you have on aliens and they'll just
Speaker 3: shit you a million pages worth of documents.
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't imagine there's a shitload of documentation
Speaker 2: on little Aurora, Texas from the crash of eighteen whatever
Speaker 2: the fuck not?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but your boy Mars didn't come into the picture
Speaker 3: until the nineteen seventies to ask about it, right, And
Speaker 3: the only way that there would be something to find
Speaker 3: in a foiler request is if there was an official
Speaker 3: report documented on what the agency found when they got there, right,
Speaker 3: and if it was something super squirrel like secret squirrel,
Speaker 3: you know, super under the radar, super ultra classified, top secret,
Speaker 3: bah blah blah blah bap, we wouldn't even know what
Speaker 3: query to put into the search in order to get
Speaker 3: a foiler request for this. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be a little difficult.
Speaker 4: There are other alien sightings in te Uh.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: There was another major event that happened in Lubbock in
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty one. It says, oh, yes, you know what
Speaker 2: this story is about. The Lubbic Lights of nineteen fifty one.
Speaker 2: A very strange light formation was seen over the skies
Speaker 2: in Lubbock, Texas during the months of August and September
Speaker 2: of nineteen fifty one. Roughly about twenty to thirty lights
Speaker 2: were seen. But even after all these years, it remains
Speaker 2: a mystery of what exactly were the Lubbic Lights.
Speaker 3: And I don't want to do too much digging into
Speaker 3: that one, because I feel like all the rest of
Speaker 3: these were going to eventually like do episodes on but
Speaker 3: the Lubbing Lights is one.
Speaker 4: Then six years later there was another one.
Speaker 2: There was the leveland or in Leveland saw another famous
Speaker 2: UFO sighting. So another famous UFO case occurred on November
Speaker 2: tewod And third, nineteen fifty seven. The nineteen fifty seven
Speaker 2: Leveland UFO people claimed to see a very bright egg
Speaker 2: shaped ship hover above the city of ten thousand people.
Speaker 2: Many people reported to spotting the aircraft while driving on
Speaker 2: the highway. The US Air Force claimed it was a
Speaker 2: ball lightning. That's always the fucking answer, is ball lighting.
Speaker 2: I mean, getting so sick of that, dude, Like, I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know how common ball lightning is.
Speaker 3: But it's so uncommon that they've never actually gotten it
Speaker 3: on camera. I think there may be a few pictures of.
Speaker 2: It by actually somebody, somebody recently. This is like as
Speaker 2: of a week or two ago. I just saw it.
Speaker 2: Somebody caught the video footage of ball lightning happening in
Speaker 2: like a target parking lot and it was setting off
Speaker 2: all the car alarms and it was just bouncing literally
Speaker 2: from car to car and just traveling across the road.
Speaker 2: It was the weirdest shit.
Speaker 3: But that was also by accident that they even happen
Speaker 3: to have a camera on that position at that moment, right,
Speaker 3: But of course, something that can't be explained. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: we believe it was ball lightning, or or it was
Speaker 3: some light refracted off of Venus through some swamp gas
Speaker 3: that made you believe that you saw a cigar shaped
Speaker 3: object crash into a windmill. Judge his house like bro.
Speaker 2: Also, whenever you're talking about the Air Force, if it's
Speaker 2: UFO related, especially in nineteen fifty seven, you would have
Speaker 2: to imagine that that would be Air Force territory.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So anyway, they claimed that it was ball lightning,
Speaker 2: but no one was able to confirm this. Today it
Speaker 2: remains a mystery.
Speaker 3: Indeed. Yeah, I feel like we're gonna do episodes on
Speaker 3: these things too. But yet there was another famous one from.
Speaker 2: Texas nineteen eighty saw Texans have their health affected by
Speaker 2: a UFO. Our final story takes us to a town
Speaker 2: of Dayton, Texas. Unlike the other stories where people were
Speaker 2: left unharmed after their sightings, this one actually includes injuries.
Speaker 2: On December twenty ninth, nineteen eighty three, people were driving
Speaker 2: on State Road fourteen eighty five when they spotted an
Speaker 2: unidentified aircraft spit fire on their car while driving. Betty
Speaker 2: Cash Vicki Landrum and Kolby Landrum were in the car
Speaker 2: when the incident occurred. Thankfully, everyone survived, but they claimed
Speaker 2: to have suffered from radiation sickness and had to go
Speaker 2: to the hospital. This became known as the nineteen eighty
Speaker 2: Cash Lundrum incident. The story even aired on Unsolved Mysteries
Speaker 2: and various TV shows.
Speaker 3: Indeed, indeed, so again, Texas is no stranger to having
Speaker 3: unexplainable aerial phenomena, as some might say. Now to kind
Speaker 3: of bring all this to a close, found an article
Speaker 3: that kind of throws a little shade towards the inhabitants
Speaker 3: of this small town of Aurora, Texas in eighteen ninety seven,
Speaker 3: and this one's kind of geared more towards making it
Speaker 3: seem like a bit of a hoax again with all
Speaker 3: the evidence that we have found, documented evidence, we got
Speaker 3: reports from the local townsfolk, eyewitness accounts, local news sources,
Speaker 3: and even still today there's people in the town that
Speaker 3: the well you could still go to, the grave site
Speaker 3: is still there, they won't allow anybody to exum it
Speaker 3: because of Texas state law.
Speaker 4: All these things.
Speaker 3: There's people out there just calling it a hoax because
Speaker 3: of course it must be.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, on a quiet April morning in eighteen ninety seven,
Speaker 2: the tiny farming town of Aurora, Texas was shaken by
Speaker 2: an event that would echo through history like a ghostly whisper.
Speaker 2: Before the word ufo had ever even entered the popular vocabulary,
Speaker 2: before Roswell became the epicenter of flying saucer folklore, Aurora
Speaker 2: found itself at the heart of a mystery that blended wonder, fear,
Speaker 2: and fascination. Residents awoke to the astonishing news that something
Speaker 2: strange had plummeted from the sky, something that would ignite
Speaker 2: imaginations for generations. What really happened that day? Was there
Speaker 2: truly a visitor from the stars? Or was it all
Speaker 2: a clever taiale spun from the dust of the wild
Speaker 2: Texas plains?
Speaker 3: Right of course, of course. Now let's paint the picture here,
Speaker 3: the setting, Aurora, Texas in the late nineteenth century.
Speaker 4: Right now, what did that tell him?
Speaker 3: Look like?
Speaker 4: What was the situation there?
Speaker 3: What the hell?
Speaker 2: Oh one of those named things? Oh yeah, you're good.
Speaker 2: So in eighteen ninety seven was a sleepy community struggling
Speaker 2: with drought, disease, and economic decline. Life was hard, and
Speaker 2: hope was sometimes in short supply. The arrival of the
Speaker 2: railroad had been delayed, leaving Aurora isolated and longing for
Speaker 2: a spark of excitement. People relied on each other, and
Speaker 2: news travel quickly by word of mouth or the local paper.
Speaker 2: Against this backdrop of everyday hardship, the idea that something
Speaker 2: extraordinary could happen, something not of this world, was both
Speaker 2: thrilling and unsettling. Life revolved around church gatherings, farm work,
Speaker 2: and simple pleasures, making the sudden appearance of a mysterious
Speaker 2: flying object all the more remarkable. For many, the event
Speaker 2: offered a brief escape from daily struggles, a story that
Speaker 2: would linger like a legend whispered around campfires.
Speaker 3: Of course, of course, because these poor country folk just
Speaker 3: had to make some crazy story up about something that
Speaker 3: no one had ever seen before to shake it their monotonous,
Speaker 3: you know, grind that they had made for themselves.
Speaker 2: So also we're talking about it, mentioned about how it
Speaker 2: was kind of a bit of a like a church town,
Speaker 2: like a and and you think about it, like if
Speaker 2: everybody there, I don't know, I mean, I imagined that
Speaker 2: it was probably mostly churchgoers in that tiny little town, right,
Speaker 2: and church goers if it was actually, like, you know,
Speaker 2: if they were that headstrong about their beliefs and then
Speaker 2: they saw this thing, wouldn't you say, like, do you
Speaker 2: think any of them would have thought that it was
Speaker 2: like an angel or a demon or something like that.
Speaker 2: But nobody said anything like that.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. None of the eyewitnesses said anything
Speaker 3: like that. This whole conversation about how aliens are clearly angelic,
Speaker 3: clearly demonic, clearly nephylimic. That is such a modern conversation
Speaker 3: to be had. These people, fundamentalist Christian in this small
Speaker 3: town of Texas, didn't look at this thing and go,
Speaker 3: God's mad at us, or it's one of Satan's spawns.
Speaker 3: Nobody had any thoughts about that whatsoever. Dude, what's saying?
Speaker 2: What's up with the websites? First you had an orgasmic pillow,
Speaker 2: Now you got a fucking ad for astroglide.
Speaker 4: Yo, I'm telling you it's weird.
Speaker 3: Look at this. Itens arousal and pleasure astroglide. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe the aliens are trying to say that, you know,
Speaker 2: some antal probing is coming?
Speaker 3: Is that what this is? Are the aliens speaking to
Speaker 3: us third party through the ad agencies. Okay, might be
Speaker 3: you never know so anyway, getting back to it here
Speaker 3: the crash? What did witnesses claim? The actual testimonies.
Speaker 2: The morning of April seventeenth, eighteen ninety seven reportedly began
Speaker 2: like any other until townspeople spotted a strange cigar shaped
Speaker 2: craft streaking across the sky. According to eyewitness accounts, it
Speaker 2: seemed to wobble and descend erradically before crashing into a
Speaker 2: windmill on Judge Judge JS Proctor's property. The resulting explosion
Speaker 2: scattered debris, damaged the windmill, and even destroyed a water tank.
Speaker 2: Some locals later described seeing pieces of silvery metal unlike
Speaker 2: anything they had ever encountered. The buzzed with confusion and fear.
Speaker 2: What could possibly explain such a bizarre occurrence? For the
Speaker 2: people of Aurora, it was as if the universe had
Speaker 2: suddenly reached down and touched their world. The sense of
Speaker 2: wonder was palpable, with some feeling all in other's deep suspicion.
Speaker 3: There were sauce, no doubt. Now the alien body quote
Speaker 3: unquote alien Again, this article is calling it a hoax,
Speaker 3: fact or fiction.
Speaker 2: Well, it says one of the most sensational elements of
Speaker 2: the Aurora Clash crash was the claim that another worldly
Speaker 2: being was found among the wreckage. Eyewitnesses said the pilot's
Speaker 2: body was not human, small, fragile, and strangely dressed. Oh
Speaker 2: so it did have some clothes on. According to the
Speaker 2: local lore, townsfolk gave this mysterious visitor a Christian burial
Speaker 2: in the local cemetery, treating the unknown with respect and compassion.
Speaker 2: Despite efforts, no conclusive evidence of the grave or of
Speaker 2: this grave have ever been found, though a modest marker
Speaker 2: once stood as a silent testament to the story. The
Speaker 2: idea of an alien buried in Texas soil adds a
Speaker 2: layer of haunting, intrigue, feeling countless debates and midnight conversations
Speaker 2: whether fact or fiction, This detail transformed the incident from
Speaker 2: a simple crash to a saga of cosmic proportions. The
Speaker 2: image of townspeople tenderly burying a being from another world
Speaker 2: captures both the kindness and curiosity of the human spirit.
Speaker 3: No doubt. No, let's dig into a little bit of
Speaker 3: the media coverage, and our boy, who was clearly a
Speaker 3: prankster and also never fed, wrote a follow up to
Speaker 3: this story, Let's dig in.
Speaker 2: News of the Aurora crash quickly spread beyond the town's borders,
Speaker 2: with the Dallas Morning News publishing a detailed report just
Speaker 2: days after the incident. The story captured the imagination of
Speaker 2: readers across Texas and beyond. Some believed every word, while
Speaker 2: others dismissed the tale as a hoax or tall tale
Speaker 2: born from rural boredom. That's what you do when you're bored,
Speaker 2: us makeup alien stories.
Speaker 3: Before people even knew what a UFO was, right, nobody
Speaker 3: was talking about Little Green mannering these things. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: those old crazy hill villies and Aurora, Texas, all three
Speaker 3: hundred of them, just coming up with wild stories just
Speaker 3: to do so, Like.
Speaker 2: Bro what the national fascination with mysterious airships had already
Speaker 2: been building in the eighteen nineties, and the Aurora incident
Speaker 2: poured gasoline on that fire. Letters poured in, and reporters visited,
Speaker 2: eager to see the crash site and interview witnesses. Yet,
Speaker 2: as with many sensational stories, skepticism grew alongside belief. Some
Speaker 2: accused the town of fabricating the story to draw attention
Speaker 2: or revive its struggling economy. Despite these doubts, the story
Speaker 2: refused to die, becoming a fixture of American folklore.
Speaker 4: Again, no one got rich off of this at all.
Speaker 3: But okay, yeah, it was to revive the small farming
Speaker 3: towns fledgling economy. That was due to a trout. But yes,
Speaker 3: and alien stories. What's gonna make their crops grow? All right? Now,
Speaker 3: let's take into some scientific explanations and skepticism.
Speaker 2: Met Modern investigators have approached the Aurora incident with a
Speaker 2: critical eye, searching for logical explanations behind the outlandish claims.
Speaker 2: Some suggest that the airship seen crashing could have been
Speaker 2: a meteor, a weather balloon, or even a case of
Speaker 2: mass hysteria fueled by the aras fascination with mysterious flying
Speaker 2: machines the lake.
Speaker 3: Hold on, wait a minute, Wait a minute, weather balloon.
Speaker 3: I don't know when weather balloons were invented. I don't
Speaker 3: know that off top, but I feel like eighteen ninety
Speaker 3: seven is a bit premature for people to send up
Speaker 3: a weather balloon to get readings from the stratosphere. I
Speaker 3: don't know this for a fact, but that sounds a
Speaker 3: bit ridiculous to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, weather balloons were first used in the late
Speaker 2: eighteen hundreds what purpose, with significant contributions from French meteorologist
Speaker 2: Lyons de Bort, who began launching them in eighteen ninety six,
Speaker 2: And that was in France. Okay, damn right around this time.
Speaker 2: That's what makes it so fucking weird that all this
Speaker 2: shit like is you know, you had uh, it's it's
Speaker 2: very coincidental that this is happening in this way. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying that to try and degrade from the story.
Speaker 3: French weather balloon. See if the French weather balloon from
Speaker 3: eighteen ninety six looked like a cigar, I feel like
Speaker 3: that would also.
Speaker 4: Be a bit you know, telling towards it.
Speaker 3: But also yeah, yeah, so it could have been a
Speaker 3: meteor they said it was hovering slowly. Meteors don't do that,
Speaker 3: or a weather balloon, this new crazy technology that no
Speaker 3: one in bump fuck Nowheresville, Aurora, Texas had ever heard of.
Speaker 3: Sure obviously that it was going down.
Speaker 2: Damn, stop sharing, stop sharing the screen. All right, oh shit,
Speaker 2: this is weird. Okay, So here we go the weather
Speaker 2: balloon from the nineteenth century. Look at that, it almost
Speaker 2: looks like a cigar ish kind of thing, doesn't it.
Speaker 3: But why would a French engineer who this is like
Speaker 3: his baby, this is his mona Lisa. This is cutting
Speaker 3: edge technology. Why these other weather balloons those are yeah,
Speaker 3: those are newer ones. Why would he release this in Aurora, Texas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's uh, it's strange, it said. The
Speaker 2: weather balloon nineteenth century artwork teather balloon that has been
Speaker 2: turned into an electric meteor lot meteorolite meteorological recorder. This
Speaker 2: one carries an an and a NEMO meter. There we go,
Speaker 2: used to record data on wedspeed. Okay, d uh oh,
Speaker 2: well look here we go, especially in France and the
Speaker 2: United States. Artwork from the nineteenth volume. The first period
Speaker 2: was eighteen ninety seven of the French popular science weekly
Speaker 2: La Science Elestrugi.
Speaker 3: That's my point, right, Like this was as far as
Speaker 3: like new science and new tech goes. This would have
Speaker 3: been like the new Tesla truck of its day when
Speaker 3: it first went out to the showroom floor.
Speaker 2: And it also it also had this in Aurora, Texas. Also,
Speaker 2: it has nothing to do with the elements that were
Speaker 2: found on the ground, and it has nothing to do
Speaker 2: with the body that was allegedly found right, I don't.
Speaker 3: Believe so, so kind of throwing that one out. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: see why they would make that comparison, I really do.
Speaker 3: It doesn't really hold water to me. But anyway, let's
Speaker 3: go so, uh fascination with mysterious flying machines.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, So the late eighteen hundred saw a surge
Speaker 2: in airship sightings across the country, open or often later
Speaker 2: attributed to misidentified natural phenomena or experimental aircraft. Skeptics point
Speaker 2: out inconsistencies and eyewitness testimonies and the lack of physical
Speaker 2: evidence such as photo photographs or verifiable artifacts. Yet, despite
Speaker 2: exis ostive searches, no definitive explanation has ever been found.
Speaker 2: The line between fact and folklore remains tantalizingly blurred, inviting
Speaker 2: debate and further investigation.
Speaker 3: Okay, so this is one of those airships that they're
Speaker 3: talking about here, and this is a part of the
Speaker 3: airship wave of eighteen ninety six to eighteen ninety seven.
Speaker 2: Things huge, this massive.
Speaker 3: Thing, and there was only one pilot. Dude, this cockpit
Speaker 3: alone holds a crew and this whole thing, you're telling
Speaker 3: me that's what took down the windmill. Okay, didn't cause
Speaker 3: any records on the ground other than some metal fragments
Speaker 3: that was made of some material that no one had
Speaker 3: ever seen before. They took all the records and threw
Speaker 3: it in a well, and some non human person got
Speaker 3: out of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not buying that.
Speaker 4: The airship wave, let's see.
Speaker 2: The Aurora crash was not an isolated event. During the
Speaker 2: late eighteen nineties, mysterious airships were reported across the United States,
Speaker 2: in California to the Midwest. These sightings often describe cigar
Speaker 2: shaped crafts with bright lights piloted by shadowy figures. Newspapers
Speaker 2: delighted in publishing sensational stories, sometimes with tongue firmly in cheek,
Speaker 2: but always with an undercurrent of genuine curiosity. The phenomenon
Speaker 2: sparked widespread speculation where these early inventors testing secret flying
Speaker 2: machines or with something more extraordinary at play. Aurora's story
Speaker 2: fit perfectly into this wave, adding fuel to the fire
Speaker 2: of public fascination. The aras blend of scientific curiosity and
Speaker 2: unbrindled imagination created fertile ground for tales of visitors from
Speaker 2: the skies.
Speaker 4: Right, of course, it tales. It's all folklore.
Speaker 3: In tales.
Speaker 4: Now's talk about the investigations and the exhumations, as in
Speaker 4: them exhuming a body from a grave.
Speaker 2: Over the decades, amateur investigators and UFO enthusiasts have flocked
Speaker 2: to Aurora hoping to uncover hard evidence. The cemetery where
Speaker 2: the quote unquote alien was supposedly buried became a focal point,
Speaker 2: with some even requesting permite to exhume graves and search
Speaker 2: for answers. Metal detectors, ground penetrating radar, and other tools
Speaker 2: have all been employed, but results have been inconclusive. Some
Speaker 2: claim to have found strange mental fragments, while others believe
Speaker 2: any evidence was long ago lost or removed. The quest
Speaker 2: for truth has become almost as legendary as the incident itself,
Speaker 2: with each new search adding another layer to the unfolding mystery.
Speaker 2: The lack of concrete answers only seems to deepen the allure,
Speaker 2: drawing fresh generations of seekers to Aurora.
Speaker 3: I agree now some theories hoax, misunderstanding, or something else.
Speaker 2: Theories about the Aurora incident run the gamut from deliberate
Speaker 2: hoax to misunderstood natural event. Some believe Judge Proctor or
Speaker 2: local journalists concocted the tale to revive the flagging fortunes
Speaker 2: of Aurora, hoping to attract visitors and investment. Others argue
Speaker 2: that the collective stress of drought and disease may have
Speaker 2: fueled a kind of wishful thinking, allowing an ordinary event
Speaker 2: to be transformed in memory into something extraordinary an A
Speaker 2: A minority insists, A minority insists, that's a weird way
Speaker 2: of framing that that the story is true, uh, pointing
Speaker 2: to the consistency of certain eyewitness accounts and the persistence
Speaker 2: of the legend. The truth may lie somewhere in between
Speaker 2: an incident that began with a real occurrence later embellished
Speaker 2: by rumor in the natural human love of a good story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gotta be what it is. It's a good story,
Speaker 3: you know now.
Speaker 2: But those are the same people that don't believe that
Speaker 2: Roswell happened either though, Like, right, you know, there's no
Speaker 2: proving anything alien to some people, you.
Speaker 3: Know, absolutely. Now, it goes into the Roswell crash in
Speaker 3: the shadow of the Aurora incident, right, and then it
Speaker 3: talks about the enduring legacy. It talks about what the
Speaker 3: Aurora crash teaches us about belief and wonder. Like I said,
Speaker 3: this article doesn't really do a good job of trying
Speaker 3: to convince the person one way or another. It shows it,
Speaker 3: but it kind of looks at it from a hoaxy stand.
Speaker 3: But good cult members, you be the judge. When you
Speaker 3: look at the Aurora, Texas crash incident, so many red
Speaker 3: flags come up. For me personally, there's too many red
Speaker 3: flags to ignore it. As we always say, if there's
Speaker 3: that many, we got to do deeper digging. Unfortunately, they
Speaker 3: won't let anyone dig. They refuse to allow anyone to
Speaker 3: exhume the body because they can't find the next of
Speaker 3: can of Ned the alien. That's crazy to me, but
Speaker 3: okay you can't. I'm I'm maybe you could get with
Speaker 3: the guy that owns that well, dig down and see
Speaker 3: if you find these chunks of wreckage remains unless the
Speaker 3: same government body that came and exhumed Ned's grave also
Speaker 3: went and took those away as well, And there's nothing
Speaker 3: there now. But all the studies showed and all the
Speaker 3: reports and the mel detectings and the findings and all
Speaker 3: this showed that these things, at least at one time
Speaker 3: were there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm I'm a believer in it, dude.
Speaker 2: I think that a lot of this stuff is always
Speaker 2: going to be shrodden in mystery. Especially Look if it
Speaker 2: was if it was bullshit, Like if it actually was bullshit,
Speaker 2: and let's just say that it was some kind of
Speaker 2: made up story by the mayor and the people that
Speaker 2: were hoping to revive the community. Let's take away the
Speaker 2: fact that the windmill is no longer there. Let's take
Speaker 2: away the fact that they did find strange metals, that
Speaker 2: of which are not common to the area. What do
Speaker 2: you do about the gravesite? Like, what do you do
Speaker 2: about the grave site? There used to be something there
Speaker 2: and now there's something else there, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: The tombstone, dude, right, Like what sense does that make?
Speaker 3: They have pictures of the original tombstone and it has
Speaker 3: like a flying saucer with some windows on the side,
Speaker 3: and that was it that got taken the date Mars
Speaker 3: and his boy was there with the metal detector. They
Speaker 3: have pictures of the original tombstone that was there. They
Speaker 3: come back the next day, the tombstone is gone. The
Speaker 3: grave has been recently dug up, and there's a metal
Speaker 3: pipe sticking out of the ground.
Speaker 2: And also let's think about it like this too. For
Speaker 2: they for them to be having such a problem with
Speaker 2: exhuming the grave site, where were they? Where were the
Speaker 2: people that are controlling this ground whenever all this shit
Speaker 2: was taken right?
Speaker 10: Right?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 9: Is it?
Speaker 2: Is it something that is that easy? Do they not
Speaker 2: have a graveyard keeper working the graveyard shift? And somebody
Speaker 2: went in the middle of the night and took the
Speaker 2: tombstone and buried a fucking pipe in where the tombstone
Speaker 2: used to be? Like, where were they at? Because that
Speaker 2: almost makes me just want to say, well, fuck trying
Speaker 2: to get permission, Let's just go dig the motherfucker ourselves,
Speaker 2: because clearly the other people got away with it, and
Speaker 2: nobody better than I.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, to be fair, it's not like there's
Speaker 3: you know, people working the graveyard shift at cemeteries anymore.
Speaker 3: Most of them are you know, they come by once
Speaker 3: a week to cut the grass kind of thing. I
Speaker 3: get that you don't have like guards at cemeteries, you know, typically.
Speaker 2: Oh that's true, But even still, I mean, well, I
Speaker 2: wonder if there's even like security cameras.
Speaker 3: No, I guarantee not in the seventies.
Speaker 2: In a real now I'm soud.
Speaker 3: Possibly, but even still I doubt it. I mean, the
Speaker 3: town's only got fifteen hundred people in it.
Speaker 4: Let's fucking go, then, I say, let's get after it.
Speaker 2: There's no reason not to.
Speaker 3: I mean, let's let's ask for forgiveness, not permission. Let's
Speaker 3: find out if ned is really down there.
Speaker 2: Bro, Yeah, I mean we can. I mean, get a
Speaker 2: metal detector, get a little weird, you know.
Speaker 3: I got I got a buddy that's got a really
Speaker 3: fucking good one. So we're down.
Speaker 2: Let's get weird. I mean yeah, I mean, of course,
Speaker 2: the we want to be able to distinguish if it's
Speaker 2: uncovering some kind of metal from the ground and not
Speaker 2: the pole that's buried in there, which I think was
Speaker 2: to throw off the metal detectors, to be honest, like
Speaker 2: that makes the most amount of sense of all things.
Speaker 2: You put a metal pole in there, dude, you know.
Speaker 3: And have it sticking out of the ground like not
Speaker 3: even like slightly under the surface to where like they'll
Speaker 3: freak out and then dig two inches and find that
Speaker 3: and be like, oh, wow, we're dumb. You haven't stuck
Speaker 3: out of the ground. Just as that's a middle fingers.
Speaker 3: What that is, I.
Speaker 2: Think it would be interesting enough to even find a casket,
Speaker 2: let alone any kind of body even in there, because
Speaker 2: that would lead a little bit more credence to the story,
Speaker 2: wouldn't it. Like even if you dug and you found
Speaker 2: like you're digging and you're digging, and you're digging in
Speaker 2: the next thing, you know, oh shit, there's something here,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like that would send shivers
Speaker 2: up your spine because you'd be like, Okay, so, how
Speaker 2: elaborate did this hoax have to be to where they
Speaker 2: literally had to dig six feet under and bury something?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, dude, there's too many red flags
Speaker 3: on the plate to ignore. I am personally of the
Speaker 3: belief that some sort of craft wrecked in Aurora, Texas.
Speaker 3: And if everybody agreed, and I wish I had more
Speaker 3: ratcicles to put up. I had a couple of them
Speaker 3: saying that it was like, you know, a three foot
Speaker 3: tall being. There was some reports saying that it was
Speaker 3: like an eight foot tall being. But like my point
Speaker 3: is that no one think that this was a human.
Speaker 3: Every eyewitness and they would know what a burnt human
Speaker 3: to remain would look like, that's not an unknown thing.
Speaker 3: People have been burned alive in house fires before. But
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't agree that this was a non
Speaker 3: human body.
Speaker 2: And I can't imagine that it was such an elaborate
Speaker 2: coffin that you would use. It was probably some plywood
Speaker 2: and some nails, right, if even that.
Speaker 3: The I mean, the town was poor. They already said that,
Speaker 3: so they weren't exactly, you know, pulling out all the
Speaker 3: stops for this unknown entity.
Speaker 2: If there even was a coonbox, yeah, if it even was,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, maybe you would do it like
Speaker 2: you do a dog. You don't even put in a coffin.
Speaker 2: You just dig a hole and throw the body in there,
Speaker 2: covered up.
Speaker 3: Shit. Some people do, good god, what.
Speaker 2: You build a coffin for your dead animals?
Speaker 3: Some people do. Bro, have you ever seen a pet cemetery?
Speaker 3: Some of these people like take it to the real
Speaker 3: in degree?
Speaker 2: Fuck that movie? Which movie pet cemetery? Oh I'm we.
Speaker 4: Had like a real pet cemetery, dude.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've seen them. But that yeah, that's strange.
Speaker 2: Now I get like, you know, putting your your pet
Speaker 2: parakeet in a fucking clean xbox or something like that,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, but like to go all
Speaker 2: out to build a like a literal wood coffin with
Speaker 2: some cushion or whatever, like you're doing too much.
Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, I have a feeling that this was probably
Speaker 3: a pine box, you know, and they gave it a
Speaker 3: proper Christian burial, so they probably didn't like treat it
Speaker 3: like an underling of any type. They would have given
Speaker 3: it irrespectful burial with a respectable coffin. But it also
Speaker 3: wouldn't have been a thirty thousand dollars coffin either, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, probably the cheapest that the city
Speaker 3: would have donated the city of three hundred people. I
Speaker 3: might add, it's not like they were rolling in the
Speaker 3: tax revenue, because that's a big argument that they were
Speaker 3: doing this all to bring economy back to the town,
Speaker 3: because nothing does that like claiming you have a UFO
Speaker 3: before anyone knew what a fucking UFO was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's something that has never brought any economy
Speaker 2: to any town in that time. Now, you know what
Speaker 2: I like, it's not even like a proven thing that
Speaker 2: this is going to work.
Speaker 3: No, you know what I'm saying. It was hopeful thinking
Speaker 3: and you know, just a there was a drought and
Speaker 3: these people needed something to break up the monotony, so
Speaker 3: they came up with a story on something that pretty
Speaker 3: much no one had heard of up until this point.
Speaker 2: It logically makes no sense, thank you.
Speaker 3: Ockham's razor is kind of my go to. Not one
Speaker 3: hundred percent always is it accurate, but looking at the
Speaker 3: most logical chain of events, it being a hoax just
Speaker 3: doesn't add up to me, and.
Speaker 2: A judge of all people, to lie about it, you know.
Speaker 3: Like once he got to gain, he lost the fucking
Speaker 3: windmill out of the deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's already bad enough. You're a judge
Speaker 2: in a town of three hundred people. You're probably seeing
Speaker 2: the same motherfucker and in court every day, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And it's like town drunk broke something else again. It's like,
Speaker 3: what's up, Fred, You're gonna do you a two week
Speaker 3: stint again? Your wife will come Bailey out in a
Speaker 3: couple of weeks and blah blah blah, do it again.
Speaker 3: Like there's no what we were talking about.
Speaker 2: And they had like a single holding cell.
Speaker 3: Like maybe three beds in their holding cell, and like
Speaker 3: that's what they got like it's this is small town, dude,
Speaker 3: eighteen ninety seven.
Speaker 2: One much going on back then, No.
Speaker 3: And certainly not documented alien Martians, little green men, none
Speaker 3: of that. But you look at the eyewitness reports, none
Speaker 3: of them claimed that it was a Martian. They had
Speaker 3: the writer in the paper that said something along those lines.
Speaker 3: But the people that were there, that saw it themselves,
Speaker 3: they didn't know what to call it. They know what
Speaker 3: the hell they were looking at, but they knew that
Speaker 3: that thing's not human. This craft isn't you know, something
Speaker 3: we've ever seen before. Again, it was before planes were invented.
Speaker 3: They knew what airships were. But it's not like the
Speaker 3: people of Roor, Texas were waiting around to see the
Speaker 3: hot air Balloon Festival come through their town like that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we fact checked it and the story holds up.
Speaker 4: It does to us anyway. But good COLT members, let
Speaker 4: us know what y'all think about it.
Speaker 3: Tell us if you think it holds up, tell us
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