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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to

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<v Speaker 1>fight that fight. Glad you're here, man. Spring is in

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<v Speaker 1>the air. And I thought it was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>snow again, probably four or five times. But this time

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<v Speaker 1>of year, Yeah, it's just gorgeous. The snow mellets, it

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<v Speaker 1>goes away, and then we get days like this. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what it's all about. Glad you are here. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of interesting stuff to kick around today, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of it local as well. I do, though, I do

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<v Speaker 1>want to start national, and because I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>such a fascinating issue in one of the many really

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<v Speaker 1>really good things that Trump is doing right now. And hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it, I get that there is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of upset nationally right now about the economy. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you're surprised. I'm surprised anybody's surprised to see the

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<v Speaker 1>president upside down in the polls right now on the economy.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's hurting, right, I mean, everybody's hirement fund et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Has taken a hit in the last week or so.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's one of the reasons I respect Trump so

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<v Speaker 1>much because, and this is a great thing to throw

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<v Speaker 1>out there to you, how many politicians, either party and

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<v Speaker 1>in our lives have been willing to go through this,

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<v Speaker 1>this pain and this unpopularity while while the people are

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<v Speaker 1>hurting in order to get the long term gain. When's

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<v Speaker 1>the last time we had that? I'd love to get

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<v Speaker 1>your take on that. You can text Dam five seven

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<v Speaker 1>seven three nine. Dan five seven seven three nine. But

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<v Speaker 1>when in our lifetime is the last time we had that?

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<v Speaker 1>And the fact Trump's willing to do it right now

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<v Speaker 1>to me super impressive. And because he is. He he's

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<v Speaker 1>suffering in the polls right now on this not necessarily overall,

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<v Speaker 1>though that's going to follow right. I mean, economy is

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<v Speaker 1>one or two on pretty much everybody's list. He's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be very popular now, as he should be for

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<v Speaker 1>you know, enforcing the border way it should be enforced,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. But he's willing to take that hit for

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<v Speaker 1>the long term, and I really respect that. Would have

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<v Speaker 1>been so easy, as we talked about yesterday, right just

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<v Speaker 1>to do the sugar high thing, just to command and again,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to just spend our grandchildren's money. Make this

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<v Speaker 1>an easy term for him. But I respect what he's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do. I don't know enough about tariffs to

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<v Speaker 1>say that it's going to work, but I trust him.

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<v Speaker 1>I trust him. I trust him on the economy three

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<v Speaker 1>or three someone three eight two five five, the number

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<v Speaker 1>this is another reason I trust him. I just love

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<v Speaker 1>what he's doing on this front. I love what Marco

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<v Speaker 1>Ruby is doing and Marco Rubio, this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be so much fun to watch right as we hit

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six and had to the presidential in twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>because you have all these all this young conservative talent

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<v Speaker 1>and so much of it now Trump has on his

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<v Speaker 1>team that's just getting better all the time with this experience,

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<v Speaker 1>Like Rubio, I think it's been really good for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>just growing. I think before our eyes. In this Secretary

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<v Speaker 1>of State role here he's talking about this Hamas supporter

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<v Speaker 1>who wants to stay on a student visa and a

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<v Speaker 2>When you come to the United States as a visitor,

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<v Speaker 2>which is what a visa is, which is how this

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<v Speaker 2>individual entered this country as on a visitor's visa. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you are here as a visitor. We can deny you

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<v Speaker 2>that visa. We can deny you that if you tell

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<v Speaker 2>us when you apply, Hi, I'm trying to get into

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<v Speaker 2>the United States on a student visa. I am a

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<v Speaker 2>big supporter of Hamas, a murderous, barbaric group that kidnaps children,

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<v Speaker 2>that rapes the teenage girls, that takes hostages, that allows

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<v Speaker 2>them to die in captivity, that returns more bodies.

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<v Speaker 1>Than live hostages.

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<v Speaker 2>If you tell us that you are in favor of

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<v Speaker 2>a group like this, and if you tell us when

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<v Speaker 2>you apply for your visa, and by the way, I

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<v Speaker 2>intend to come to your country as a student and

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<v Speaker 2>rile up all kinds of anti Jewish student anti Semitic activities.

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<v Speaker 2>I intend to shut down your universities. If you told

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<v Speaker 2>us all these things when you apply for a visa,

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<v Speaker 1>Deny your visa. I hope we would.

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<v Speaker 2>If you actually end up doing that once you're in

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<v Speaker 2>this country on such a visa, we will revoke it.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you end up having a green card, not citizenship,

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<v Speaker 1>Or beautifully said, right, hey, why is this even an issue?

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<v Speaker 1>But this is the beauty of it, right, is part

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<v Speaker 1>of Trump's magic, Scott Jenny said, it is that you

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<v Speaker 1>got the left now, the Democratic Party right, just glombing

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<v Speaker 1>onto the twenty side of all these eighty twenty issues.

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<v Speaker 1>So this humas what do we call them here, hamas holes,

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<v Speaker 1>this amass hole is going to be the new poster

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<v Speaker 1>boy for the left, which is a beautiful thing, right

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<v Speaker 1>because eighty percent of the population is going to say,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are nuts. It's going to be right up

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<v Speaker 1>there with men in women's sports. Right. That's now I

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<v Speaker 1>think it is. It's an eighty one to nineteen issue.

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<v Speaker 1>We like to say eighty twenty that that's an eighty

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<v Speaker 1>one nineteen. So you got that going for you? Three

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<v Speaker 1>Schuling does a great show in the Denver market two

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<v Speaker 1>to four each day, and when I come in and

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<v Speaker 1>do it from the Denver studio, I see his text.

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<v Speaker 1>So Ryan, what is the backstory on this? Ryan? Add

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<v Speaker 1>Danielle Jerinsky to the list of conservative women. Kyle goes

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<v Speaker 1>after that from Alexa is Zach Kyle, what was the

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<v Speaker 1>name of that Bronco quarterback Tim t Boyd to sit

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<v Speaker 1>behind him for four games? Kyle Orton? Orton, Yeah, are

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<v Speaker 1>we doing another Kyle Orton show?

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<v Speaker 3>That was Kelly Coucheri's perdue Boilermaker Kyle Orton, by the way, No,

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<v Speaker 3>it was Kyle Clark who had Darcy Shaning.

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<v Speaker 1>On his program.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe nine next he's interviewing.

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<v Speaker 3>All the candidates for Colorado gop share and I think,

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<v Speaker 3>much to his glee, that there's a lot of kind

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<v Speaker 3>disturbing trend.

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<v Speaker 1>I observed that.

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<v Speaker 3>Whether it's Heidie Ganall or Representative Lauren Bobert or Danielle

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<v Speaker 3>Jerinsky or we'll see what happens with Darcy, that Kyle

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<v Speaker 3>Clark has an affinity or a propensity to really target

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<v Speaker 3>conservative women.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't he target all conservatives? No?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, that's a little bit different on the women front.

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<v Speaker 1>Polist, I think is a very obvious problem a Polis.

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<v Speaker 3>It's more of an animosity for Kyle. It's more like

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<v Speaker 3>an obsession or compulsion it's just weird. And I'll just

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<v Speaker 3>say this once again that he's been very, let's say,

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<v Speaker 3>eager to get a sit down one on one interview

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<v Speaker 4>To that, didn't want to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he moderated a debate for the fourth Congressional

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<v Speaker 3>district in which he really just won in like a

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it just seems to me he does that

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<v Speaker 1>to all conservatives, right, I mean, he's got his stick

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<v Speaker 3>Dan, why don't you ask Hidig and all that, or

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<v Speaker 3>Lauren Bobert that or Danielle Jerensky that absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm not doubting their experience, but what conservative

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<v Speaker 1>I was treated fairly by Kyle Clark.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, when you put it that way, true, I'm saying

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<v Speaker 3>that his pursuit of these conservative women is much nastier,

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<v Speaker 3>It has a harder edge to it, it's much more rabid.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't think I'm alone in saying that or

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<v Speaker 3>observing that at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no doubt it's in the eyes of the Boulder.

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<v Speaker 1>But now Polis, on the other hand, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's just clear to anybody watching. And that was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the beautiful things about the last gubernatorial campaign, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish the results had been the opposite. But Heidi

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<v Speaker 1>just schooled him, just took him, you know, to the woodshed,

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<v Speaker 1>and every one of those debates she really did, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and exposed him. And yeah, I don't think I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think Heidi just beating up on Polis in those debates

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<v Speaker 1>had any impact on Polis's inability to gain traction nationally.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think she exposed a weakness of his right.

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<v Speaker 1>And wow, three or three someone three two five five

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<v Speaker 1>but we in fact, and I'll do this after the breaks,

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<v Speaker 1>I can play it in full. I want to play

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<v Speaker 1>this ironically Kyle Clark's story about the Sixteenth Street Mall.

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<v Speaker 1>And I understand you may well be listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>show somewhere outside of the Denver metro area. But as

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about the abject failure, kind of the death

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<v Speaker 1>spiral of the Sixteenth Street Mall in Denver, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>how much taxpayer money and other money, private money they

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<v Speaker 1>pour into it, there are I think really important lessons

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<v Speaker 1>beyond Colorado. And so I think it's very very useful

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<v Speaker 1>to study this because how many years now You've been

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<v Speaker 1>here five or six years now, right, Ryan?

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<v Speaker 5>Six?

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, Yeah, and I've been here I think going on

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<v Speaker 1>close to fifty. But the point is, it's just this

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<v Speaker 1>never ending battle, this money pit to somehow turn the

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen Street mall around. In the sixteenth you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>whole area was a whole lot better at one point.

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<v Speaker 1>But the bottom line is, and what we'll get into

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<v Speaker 1>more detail, the bottom line is that once they decided

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<v Speaker 1>to make Denver that literally the drug capital of the world,

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<v Speaker 1>that the fate of the sixteenth Street wall was sealed.

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<v Speaker 1>And there is no way you are ever going to

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<v Speaker 1>turn that around unless Colorado reversus legalized marijuana just does

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<v Speaker 1>a one to eighty on this whole glorification of recreational

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<v Speaker 1>drug thing. It is just going to be the magnet,

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<v Speaker 1>the hangout, the backyard, the gathering place for young homeless,

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<v Speaker 1>for attics for for a lot of sad, sad stories,

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<v Speaker 1>from around the country and a lot of homegrown ones

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<v Speaker 1>who would have had good, healthy, successful lives if not

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<v Speaker 1>for the drugs. But hey, as long as the left

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<v Speaker 1>is getting what it wants, not illlegalized drugs and adults

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<v Speaker 1>are making a lot of money, what do they care

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<v Speaker 1>about the kids? Right, you're on the dan Kapla Show.

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<v Speaker 4>And now back to the dan Kaplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 6>Pressure on.

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<v Speaker 7>It complicates Putin's position a little bit. I don't think, frankly,

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<v Speaker 7>a ceasefires in Ukraine's interest. I think if you freeze

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<v Speaker 7>the conflict along the existing front lines and start negotiations

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<v Speaker 7>in Geneva or Vienna or some neutral capital that drag

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<v Speaker 7>on and on, the ceasefire line could become a new

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<v Speaker 7>de facto Ukraine Russian border, which.

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<v Speaker 1>United Nations. But I think what's happened to John Bolton,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's happened to some other conservatives I really respect,

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<v Speaker 1>refused to step up and save them. I know, John's

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<v Speaker 1>So to speak? It's wired. This thing's totally wired. There

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<v Speaker 1>whether Russia pretends to be debating this whatever, and they

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting that then what happens if the ceasefires agreed to

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<v Speaker 1>The end of the war. I think. So that's amazing, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>problems due to young people who came to Colorado in

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen for marijuana from DK and Brumfield. Yeah, tremendous piece

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<v Speaker 1>in the Wall Street Journal. But here's what you want

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<v Speaker 1>tell the truth about the hell being wrought by legalized marijuana.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you know why, you know why those pieces

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<v Speaker 1>they've gone left the Yeah, I think the reason you're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing these on the left isn't politics, right, because legalization

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<v Speaker 1>of marijuana is a really important saying to the Democratic Party,

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<v Speaker 1>because the more stoners you have, the more people you

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<v Speaker 1>But here's what I always banked on because you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's true, and I know it's true, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>political party. And marijuana is wrecking so many kids across

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<v Speaker 1>party lines. It's an equal opportunity destroyer. And if someone's

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<v Speaker 1>like I thank god every day our kids have avoided that.

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<v Speaker 1>So many great kids, kids of great character, kids of

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<v Speaker 1>right with Polus's full blessing and everybody in the lefts

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<v Speaker 1>full blessing, is they crank the potency up so high

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<v Speaker 1>that you can't even call it marijuana anymore. It's krakawana.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, the old stuff that did so much damage,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, up two to four percent THHC in the leaf,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. Not now the left's cranking this stuff over

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<v Speaker 1>eighty ninety percent. And of course that's the stuff the

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<v Speaker 1>kids want and get most right, because you can smuggle that,

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<v Speaker 1>you can hide that from your parents, you can do

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<v Speaker 1>it in class, whatever. So what the left wants to

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<v Speaker 1>do is they want to hook them young, hook them forever.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think what's happening now, and the reason you

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<v Speaker 1>and elsewhere, is that people love their kids. And these reporters,

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<v Speaker 1>these editors, these managers, these newspaper owners, if it hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>happened to their kid, it's happened to someone close to them.

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<v Speaker 1>And everybody listening has had that experience. And it's right

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<v Speaker 1>if you have kids. And again, we've been very blessed.

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<v Speaker 1>Our kids have been spared all that and avoided all that,

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<v Speaker 1>but some of their friends absolutely heartbreaking stuff. And everybody

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the show can tell those stories. So I

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<v Speaker 1>The big question is where's the tipping point. What's it

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<v Speaker 1>How and when does that happen? I'd love your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on that. Three oh three someone three eight two five

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<v Speaker 1>the only place Ryan ever stupid enough to do this

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<v Speaker 1>before Colorado did was Alaska. And then what they do

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<v Speaker 1>up in Alaska, Well, the dead bodies mounted because you

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<v Speaker 1>no overdoses. How yeah, but they're no less dead, like

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<v Speaker 1>less dead from what what's the latest person? I have

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<v Speaker 1>read so many hundreds, I think hundreds, but so many

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<v Speaker 1>autopsies of teenagers and children, you know, studying the role

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<v Speaker 1>of marijuana in those suicides, because We've had this big

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<v Speaker 1>and right now, I think the most recent numbers are

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<v Speaker 1>out double check, somewhere near half of all the kids

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<v Speaker 1>the way, those numbers are understated because think about this, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>with really significant levels of THHC. It's not even making

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<v Speaker 1>seeing these stories percolate up now. But let's throw it

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast Spring Afternoon.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's go to the VIP line.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome Richard Holtorf, Colorado State Rep. To the show. Now

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<v Speaker 1>running for Colorado GOP chair. Richard, Welcome to the program.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, thank you Dan for the invitation. Greatly appreciate this opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it is our pleasure. I think everybody understands how

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<v Speaker 1>important a healthy and thriving COLORADOGP is, especially in this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of election year. But so tell us what why'd

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<v Speaker 1>you decide to get in and why are you the man, sir.

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<v Speaker 8>That I just announced. I just announced on Saturday. I've

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<v Speaker 8>been watching the field and really haven't seen the right

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<v Speaker 8>So I just decided to saddle up and make a

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<v Speaker 8>main reason I'm running is because I know that Colorado

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<v Speaker 8>needs a strategic projectory that is very different than the

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<v Speaker 1>And what is that vision, my friend?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I can't share all of it with you today,

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<v Speaker 8>are running for this race that I guarantee you will

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<v Speaker 8>beg borrow and steal from me and it will immediately

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<v Speaker 6>As they run for this office.

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<v Speaker 8>But I think I'm going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Say, pardon that would be a compliment.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh absolutely, they say. My mother used to say that

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<v Speaker 8>imitation is the highest form of flattery, and I saw

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<v Speaker 8>is we have to unify our party. We absolutely cannot

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<v Speaker 8>continue down this fractured highway where we're broken into three

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<v Speaker 8>progressive left, so socialist, woke minded Democrats are what is

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<v Speaker 8>taking Colorado in a very bad direction. And we need

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<v Speaker 8>to turn our ship around. And take it in a

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<v Speaker 8>of the people. Now. The Colorado GOP has been a

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<v Speaker 8>That's going to change to the bottom up process. We're

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<v Speaker 6>To re define the.

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<v Speaker 8>Message and redefine our brand so it resonates for Colorado

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<v Speaker 8>People knows that I mean business when I talk. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>for far too long, Republicans have said other Republicans, you're

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<v Speaker 8>the enemy because you're not far enough right, and so

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<v Speaker 8>we're gonna stap you. We're going to go after you

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<v Speaker 8>because you're not with us. Well, now, under my leadership,

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<v Speaker 8>we are going to do some very deep dive analysis

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<v Speaker 8>in what Colorado wants. What are the fifty four percent

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<v Speaker 8>of the electorate that are probably six hundred to seven

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<v Speaker 8>hundred thousand voters or more in this state that are

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<v Speaker 8>now affiliated because they're sick and tower to the Republican

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<v Speaker 8>Party or they're sick and tied to the Democrat party

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<v Speaker 8>because each party has gone too far right or too

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<v Speaker 8>far left and they've lost their way. And the Democrats

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<v Speaker 8>have a similar problem. So what does Colorado want? What

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<v Speaker 8>do the Colorado voters want? I've got five daughters, they're millennials,

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<v Speaker 8>Generation X, Generation Y. What do people like my daughters

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<v Speaker 8>want who are starting their families, starting their careers, beginning

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<v Speaker 8>to work after their education in high school and college

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<v Speaker 8>and trying to make a living in Colorado and have

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<v Speaker 8>their families and raise their families and live the American dream. Well, Richie,

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<v Speaker 8>they even bothered past.

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<v Speaker 1>And well you are asking, Richard Holt of our guests

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<v Speaker 1>running for Colorado Cherries of state rep. Now, now you're

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<v Speaker 1>asking all the right questions, Archer, but let's say the

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<v Speaker 1>answer from a majority of the unaffiliated is we want

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<v Speaker 1>legalized abortion on demand. What do you do with that?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, you have to satisfy the electorate, and we know

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<v Speaker 8>that that's one of the big things that divides us

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<v Speaker 8>as a pro life conservative. I don't want that pro

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<v Speaker 8>choice position, and many of us do not. But we

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<v Speaker 8>have to understand something very important, and this is going

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<v Speaker 8>to be really hard for some of the far right Republicans,

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<v Speaker 8>that if you do not sit in the majority or

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<v Speaker 8>near majority in the state General Assembly, and you do

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<v Speaker 8>not have any state wide office is held governor, lieutenant governor, treasurer,

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<v Speaker 8>secretary of state, attorney general, if you are not even

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<v Speaker 8>in a near parody position, then the majority will do

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<v Speaker 8>what they want and we will never be able to

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<v Speaker 8>change that. But even still, we can still promote pro life.

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<v Speaker 8>But understand that if Colorado and Colorado would say they

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<v Speaker 8>want this choice and it's the Dobbs decision now that

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<v Speaker 8>defines that under federal law, and they get to decide,

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<v Speaker 8>the only way Colorado Republicans and you pro life, hardcore

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<v Speaker 8>pro life, passionate pro life Republicans, the only way you

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<v Speaker 8>get to change that is to become the majority. And

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<v Speaker 8>your pathway to the majority is not to continue to

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<v Speaker 8>ignore well, the majority of the electorate can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me explore that a little more, Richard, because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>probably among the most passionate pro lifers in the state

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<v Speaker 1>as a former Democrat, I'm not sure anybody says I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the hardest core, farthest right person. But let me ask

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<v Speaker 1>you this. Are you saying then that the Colorado GOP

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<v Speaker 1>should give up its pro life position because no.

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<v Speaker 8>No, absolutely not, Dan, let me stop you right there.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not saying any about giving up our position and

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<v Speaker 8>changing our values. What I'm saying is we need to

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<v Speaker 8>understand the electric We can promote our values, we can persuade,

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<v Speaker 8>and we can continue to try to champion those things

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<v Speaker 8>we believe in, but we can't say to the voter

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<v Speaker 8>if you don't do it our way, you can't be

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<v Speaker 8>a part of our team, and we're not going to

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<v Speaker 8>support you. In fact, we're going to fight you as

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<v Speaker 8>a minority and a super minority all the way to insignificance.

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<v Speaker 1>What would that look like? How would it be different

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<v Speaker 1>than the current approach of the Colorado GOP on say

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<v Speaker 1>the life.

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<v Speaker 8>Issue, Well, first of all, the people that promote.

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<v Speaker 6>And this is where the current regime gets it wrong.

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<v Speaker 8>The Colorado GOP and Dan, I want your listeners to.

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<v Speaker 6>Pay very close attention.

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<v Speaker 8>The Colorado GOP should be like a computer operating system.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm your computer.

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<v Speaker 8>They are in the background, they are making everything work

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<v Speaker 8>and everything on the screen. It's none of that. Is

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<v Speaker 8>the co GOP standing in front of the bully pulpit,

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<v Speaker 8>standing on the steps of the Capitol, are releasing press

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<v Speaker 8>releases to Colorado media. What should be happening. If we

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<v Speaker 8>should push our candidates forward, our elected officials forward, we

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<v Speaker 8>should empower them, and we should help them so they

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<v Speaker 8>can say the message to their voters and their constituents

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<v Speaker 8>in their districts, be it federal congressional district, state senatorial district,

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<v Speaker 8>state house district, or statewide. If we have an elected

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<v Speaker 8>official that's the state wide elected official, and we allow

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<v Speaker 8>them to resonate.

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<v Speaker 6>And promote those things, then we empower.

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<v Speaker 8>Them to persuade. We put them in front. They're what

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<v Speaker 8>should be on the screen, not the Colorado's GOP. Now,

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<v Speaker 8>the Colorado's GOP strategically should be working hand in hand.

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<v Speaker 8>And that's the problem we're not right now. We are

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<v Speaker 8>so dysfunctional.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think Dave even talks to the minority, the leader.

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<v Speaker 1>In the House, Richard, forgive me for interrupting. We we're

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<v Speaker 1>one minute over our heartbreak, so we'll have to hit

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<v Speaker 1>this now. But how can people learn more about you.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I've got a Facebook and we're setting up our

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<v Speaker 8>ex site holteur for COGP chair. I just announced on

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<v Speaker 8>Saturday because of my passion for trying to make Colorado

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<v Speaker 8>relevant again, make Colorado Republicans relevant again, and our journey

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<v Speaker 8>has to be to elect more Republicans to offices at

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<v Speaker 8>the state wide level. That's the primary mission of the

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<v Speaker 8>state party.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, obviously, while holding true to the value. So Richard,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for your time. Always, welcome back here and

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<v Speaker 1>best of luck.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, thank you very much, And if you want to

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<v Speaker 8>get a little deeper into the strategy and the plan forward,

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<v Speaker 8>I'd like to begin sharing that. So let me know

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<v Speaker 8>if I can come next week or the week after

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<v Speaker 8>and talk a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>You bet always always my friend, open door here. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for the time today. Hey, when we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>the latest plan to save the sixteenth Street Mall? Will

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<v Speaker 1>it works? Spoiler alert, nothing's going to work as long

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<v Speaker 1>as you have legalized drugs in Colorado. You're on the

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<v Speaker 1>Dankapla Show.

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<v Speaker 4>And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of venue. Yeah, yeah, no understood. And his memories

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<v Speaker 1>I've read about those, Yeah, yeah, I just remember Seeger

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<v Speaker 1>at folsom Field. I mean, what what a great show. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the Sixteenth Street Mall. So here's a

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<v Speaker 1>KUSA story. And then you got to listen to a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of things in this, right, I mean that at

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<v Speaker 1>least it's funny. Right as you hear, KUSA now put

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<v Speaker 1>its its left spin on it. So when they cite

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<v Speaker 1>all the reasons the mall's failing, how in the man,

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<v Speaker 1>how in the world would you imagine that they would

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<v Speaker 1>find a way to blame this on conservatives. So listen

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<v Speaker 1>carefully to this. Okay, because last I checked, Ryan, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think the MERI Denver's a Republican, right, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think the last one was a Republican. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>the one before that was a Republican. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>the one before that was a Republican. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>the one before that was a Republican. But somehow KUSA

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<v Speaker 1>blaming the blight on the mall on conservatives. Listen carefully, Denver.

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<v Speaker 9>Sixteenth Street Mall has some real problems. First off, Americans

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<v Speaker 9>general disinterest in spaces like that, they used to be

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<v Speaker 9>far more popular. Then you layer on vacant storefronts, long

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<v Speaker 9>term construction, some high profile crimes, and a political narrative

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<v Speaker 9>that cities are to be feared as construction finally wraps up.

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<v Speaker 9>Our Mark Salinger looks at Denver's next challenge, convincing people

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<v Speaker 9>to come back to the Sixteenth Street mall.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I comment on that for a second political narrative

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<v Speaker 1>that cities are to be feared? Think about the assumption

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<v Speaker 1>in that. Think about the worldview in that. The worldview

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<v Speaker 1>in that is that you're an idiot. The worldview in

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<v Speaker 1>that is that everybody's an idiot, truly, the worldview. To

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<v Speaker 1>be able to make that statement on a prominent news

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<v Speaker 1>station that people aren't going to the mall because of

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<v Speaker 1>a quote political narrative that cities are unsafe, that the

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<v Speaker 1>operating assumption there for anybody you'd put that on air

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<v Speaker 1>is that people are stupid sheep who can't think for themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>can't analyze news and facts and data for themselves and

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<v Speaker 1>make intelligent, informed decisions about what areas are safe or not.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're just blindly following some political leader who says

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<v Speaker 1>cities are unsafe. So think about how you are viewed

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<v Speaker 1>at least that entity.

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<v Speaker 5>After spending one hundred and seventy five million dollars on

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<v Speaker 5>construction on the sixteenth Street Mall. The concern now is

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<v Speaker 5>making sure people actually come back to enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>The experience today is not the ultimate experience that we

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<v Speaker 1>want on sixteenth, and we need to do a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to change that perception.

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<v Speaker 5>The price tag for new art activities and marketing was

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<v Speaker 5>set at one point nine million dollars today in Denver

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<v Speaker 5>City Council money. The Johnson Administration and the Downtown Denver

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<v Speaker 5>Partnership argue is vital to making sure people return to

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<v Speaker 5>a street that's been filled with Wait a.

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<v Speaker 1>Second, So the idea here is one point nine million

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<v Speaker 1>in arts and plants, Art and plants going to bring

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<v Speaker 1>people back to the mall. Well, that brings us back

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<v Speaker 1>to this whole idea that there's a quote political narrative

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<v Speaker 1>that has misled people into thinking the city's unsafe. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's a political narrative. When a visiting flight

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<v Speaker 1>attendant has her throat slit in broad daylight on the

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<v Speaker 1>sixteenth Street mall, where's the politics in that? Where's the

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<v Speaker 1>narrative in that? No, you have a flight attendant shopping

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<v Speaker 1>on the mall, Middle of the day on a Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>gets her throat slit and she dies in the street. So,

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<v Speaker 1>how is another piece of public art, particularly if it's

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<v Speaker 1>like old meth out at the airport or the venus

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<v Speaker 1>down by I twenty five, how's another piece of public

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<v Speaker 1>art supposed to overcome that is in hard hats for years?

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<v Speaker 1>How do we bring color to the space things that

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<v Speaker 1>just feel like someone's taking care of it.

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<v Speaker 5>The nearly two million dollars would go towards trying to

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<v Speaker 5>get people to visit downtown again. It would fund events

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<v Speaker 5>like live music and street markets. It would pay for

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<v Speaker 5>security to make people feel safe in an area that's

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<v Speaker 5>seen several high profile crimes recently. And it would allocate

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<v Speaker 5>money for art to cover up empty storefronts where businesses

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<v Speaker 5>have moved out.

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<v Speaker 1>This is part of a broader strategy for downtown.

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<v Speaker 8>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Second, your strategy is not to get businesses in. Your

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<v Speaker 1>strategy is to have some art in front of the

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<v Speaker 1>businesses that have closed and left because you're pro drug policies.

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<v Speaker 1>Your pro criminal policies have made a zombie land, have

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<v Speaker 1>made it. Look at the letter from the fourteen really

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<v Speaker 1>prominent restaurant owners who poured their heart and soul into downtown,

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<v Speaker 1>and they are not coming at you from the right. No,

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<v Speaker 1>all these lefty policies, these pro drug these pro criminal policies,

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<v Speaker 1>have made it a place people don't want to go.

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<v Speaker 1>But Ryan, that's the key. We just didn't think creatively enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Just put art over the storefronts, the stores that have left,

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody will notice a.

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<v Speaker 3>Band aid on a wound requiring a tourniquet. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>facelift and a terminal cancer patient. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 3>not addressing the root causes of what the problem is

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<v Speaker 3>down there and back then and the story in Kyle

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<v Speaker 3>Clark's characterization, it's total gaslighting. We're, like you said, the

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<v Speaker 3>idiots for thinking there's even a problem down there. Woman

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<v Speaker 3>gets your throat slit. You see people shooting up with

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<v Speaker 3>drugs all the time. You see fecal matter on the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I'm not just on this street, right, you see

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<v Speaker 1>people producing it? Oh god?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And uh do you see the one the other day

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<v Speaker 1>the guy just running around naked up and down the mall.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, But the point being here, the links the

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<v Speaker 1>left will go to to deny the real truth
