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Speaker 1: Broadcasting from Studio A here at Proven Winners Color Choice Shrubs.

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It's time for the Gardening Simplified Show with Stacy Hervella,

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me Rick Weist, and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson.

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Today we're finding inspiration. You can actively seek it out

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or it can come naturally. And how do you do

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that with plants and your landscape. Inspiration is insight, which

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refers to what we absorb or take in, and movement

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is how we act on it in our landscapes. Without movement,

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insight is just knowledge and conversely, taking action without insight

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is simply doing so they go hand in hand. How

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do you get inspired? I really think one of the

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ways you do in a landscape is to think about

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the function of the space. I have a perfect spot

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on the east side of my house where I can

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envision myself sitting there sipping on a cup of coffee

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in the morning as the sun is coming up. I

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think a lot of inspiration is closely tied to drama,

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and I like the thought of utilizing some of the

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new cultivars that are available on the market today to

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help influence some of that inspiration for your landscape. And

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I'm thinking about some plants that actually change color over

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the course of the season, providing drama. You know, I

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love little Lime Punch hydranga. And then in twenty twenty six,

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the Super Bell's Magic double grapefruit calibri CoA is coming

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that changes color also during the season. And so Stacy,

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I was thinking about inspiration and it struck me. Seasons

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provide inspiration. Seasons in our lives provide inspiration. So if

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you think about it, the seasons are kind of like theater.

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And I'll put it this way. Spring is a great awakening,

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Summer is a blockbuster movie, fall is the grand finale,

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and winter is reflection. And so I think it's embracing

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the seasons. That's one way to find inspiration in your garden.

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And I think also starting small and building momentum because

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success breeds success. We've heard that before, but success also

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breeds complacency. So a lot of this is all about attitude.

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Speaker 2: That's for sure. Yeah, you know, it takes a long time,

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and I think that's the important thing here is nothing

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happens overnight in the garden, and you don't have to

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get things right right away. You know, you have your

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vision for this space, on the east side of your house.

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I had a vision for all of these different spaces

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in my house, and I had lived in my house

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for a good nine years before I was ready to

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really pull the trigger and do what I did. But

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I needed that time to kind of think about it

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and use my space. And you know, I have no

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regrets because now I feel like we did the right thing. So, yeah,

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it's an attitude and we're definitely not complacent. There's still

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a lot of work to be done.

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Speaker 1: And think about this. A great way to think about

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garden inspiration is to think of the opposite of inspiration.

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So in lieu of inspiration, how about copycat neighbors? All right?

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Is it flattering or is it flat out annoying? And

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I'm fascinated when I think about this because in my neighborhood,

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you know, when I got the house, immediately started tearing

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everything out, the lawn, changing everything over. The neighbors were watching.

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I have some neighbors who immediately started working on their

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landscapes and started copying some of the things I was doing.

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It was as though I gave them license to do

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these things. I have some other neighbors who dug in

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their heels and said, no way, I'm not doing that.

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As a matter of fact, one of them put parked

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a boulder in his front yard and that's the extent

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of his landscape. Very uninspiring. But think about it. And

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estimated seventy percent of American homeowners copy home related ideas

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from their neighbors. So they're copying everything from the lawn

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furniture to lawn care, colored choices, purple front door, or

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anyone lighting upgrades, replacement windows, plants, and landscape choices. But

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many people find well, you know, Oscar Wilde said imitation

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is the sincerest form of flattery, but sixty seven percent

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of homeowners find it uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing about the Oscar wild quote. It

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goes around a lot, but it's almost always missing the

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very crucial second half. Were you getting into this? Yeah, yeah,

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So we always make sure to say this around here.

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Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can

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pay to greatness very goal. So it's's not simply flattery.

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I do not have to worry about anybody trying to

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replicate what I do in my garden. My neighbors all

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think I am completely insane. They do enjoy looking at it,

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but they do not envy me, or want the work

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or know how that goes all along with what I'm doing.

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My neighbors think, however, Yeah, well, I think there's a

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there's a garden blogger. Her name's Carol, and she wrote

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in a blog once, and I think it really sums

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it all up. If your neighbors don't think you're a

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little bit crazy, you're probably gardening wrong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I agree one hundred percent. My point

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here is, as we talk about inspiration, don't copy your neighbors.

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Be an original. And I would say, for example, there's

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a statistic I read, watch your neighbors when they're grilling.

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One in six people, fifteen percent believe flames kill off bacteria,

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and twenty seven percent of people are confident dirt adds

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flavor to their cooking.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, for real, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: For real, dirt keeping up with the Joneses. So I

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wrote you a little copy cat.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to think twice about going to anyone's house

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for a barbecue. Ever, again, they might be in the

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twenty seven percent.

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Speaker 1: It's scary, isn't it. So here's my copycat limb A

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rick about my neighbors. They're watching from a distance. Call

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it neighborly coexistence, looking for inspiration to enhance their curation

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with the path of least resistance. I was trying to

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be original, but now I'm just miserable. They all copied

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my design that I had found online. It's downright wrong, despicable.

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Am I flattered or annoyed with my idea? They have toyed?

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In December, I'll copy their lights, Christmas decor and holiday sights.

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I'm sure they'll be overjoyed. Yeah, I tell you what.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, this did happen to my colleague and

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she was upset. So she built a very distinctive front

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fence pattern. Okay, that was not like you know, it

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wasn't something off the shelf. She you know, designed this

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and they built it. And then the place next door

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to her went up for sale and they wanted to

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spruce it up and they built the exact same fence

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and she was not happy.

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Speaker 1: I tell you what. It happens. And with my landscape,

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I think a lot of inspiration comes from the vibe

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that you're trying to create and living on the in

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West Michigan, on the Lake Michigan, shoreline and near the beach.

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I wanted tropical vibe, so I went for swaying grasses

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instead of the traditional evergreen foundational plants, and they became

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the backbone of my landscape. And then I picked out

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tropical plants, or at least plants that had tropical appeal

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at allocacia, colocacia, bananas, high biscuits, cannas, different types of cannas, kalladiums,

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color blaze colias, cordelines, all of that, even hardy cactus.

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All of that makes a difference and helps create that vibe.

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that vibe. Now in my case, I have a built

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in borrowed water feature, and that is Lake Michigan. You

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can hear the waves from my house. Using containers for

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true tropical plants and annuals, areas of shade or filtered shade,

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get that rainforest vibe, palms, all of that sort of

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thing I think are very important. So tune into what

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vibe you're trying to create. And then again, like I said,

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the seasons, I think fall is a great time for

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inspiration in the garden, and we're going to talk more

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about that in future.

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Speaker 2: We nice you know. I think that people can be

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excused to a certain extent for copying you because it's

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a little bit like, you know, learning to cook. They're like, Okay,

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I want to make a chocolate cake, but I don't

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know what ingredients I need to put in here, and you,

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as a horticulturist, you have that ingredient list, and they

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see the ingredients of a great garden in your yard

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and they're like, you know, just like we were saying before,

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when I go to the garden center, I am just

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bewildered by choice. Rick seems to know what he's doing.

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so they you know, you're a role model. They're not

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just a you know, they're not just imposters. They're looking

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up to you.

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Speaker 1: But I would proceed with a word of caution, and

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that is with those recipes. I'm the type of person

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who doesn't necessarily follow I add a little of this,

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take that out rear, and sometimes it gets me into trouble.

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Speaker 2: It's true, if you know what you're doing, you're willing

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to take risks that the people who don't know what

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they're doing are probably not going to be very happy.

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With but they might ask you first, but.

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Speaker 1: I'd far rather be inspired because life is more fun

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that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then your whole neighborhood look amazing. You'd be

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responsible for transforming your entire neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: We'll give you some inspiration ideas and segment four next,

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let's see how Stacey ties this all in in plants

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and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Joe, where the

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topic of today is inspiration, the perfect, hopefully little you know,

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thing to get you through how hot it has been,

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how dry it has been. If you were out here

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in West Michigan, we're like, what four inches below normal

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for July. And you know, between the heat, the humidity

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and the lack of rain, it can make you feel

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pretty darn uninspired. So that's when it's time to kind

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of dig in and look back as to why you

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gotten yourself into this whole gardening mess in the first place.

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I think there's two great ways to do that. There's

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two ways I normally do that, and number one is

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to look at books, and there are some wonderful picture

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books of gardens from all over the world. Or of

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course you can browse websites of different public gardens around

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the world, find great pictures and get inspired that way.

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public gardens. And that is where I will say that

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I have found my biggest inspiration, which Rick, I don't

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know if that makes me a copy cat like your neighbors,

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or if I'm just, you know, doing what every artist

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or creator has ever done, which is look at something

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that someone else did and start taking it in a

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Speaker 1: Oh that's that's not copycat, that's just learning. Because for

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me too, I've I've received all kinds of inspiration from

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gardens in the Netherlands, British Columbia, the Pacific Northwest, you know,

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all of the you know, and you can point them

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out and they've helped helped inspire me. So if you

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Speaker 2: Not and that's that's a free for all.

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Speaker 1: That's a free okay.

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Speaker 2: Now, unfortunately you don't have a ton of public gardens

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out here in West Michigan. We do have a couple,

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but certainly if you're traveling or planning travel, I love

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to plan what I'm seeing around public gardens and public

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gardens are a way to not just see, you know,

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new ideas and new combinations, new plants and us. If

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you're copycatting, you're gonna have the labels there, which is

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good compared to most people's yards, although some people do

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label their plants. And it is at a public garden

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that I found one of my biggest garden inspirations, and

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that is the late nineteenth century gardener and writer William Robinson.

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So Adrian is nodding because of course that is Adriana Robinson.

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I'm not sure if that's any relation. It would be

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nearly impossible to tell, but let's just pretend it is.

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So he was pretty much the first gardener and designer

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with any kind of influence to speak out against the

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status quo, which was at the time Victorian carpet bedding,

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and so if you're not familiar with that concept, it

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was basically like different shaped beds in turf that were

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planted very tightly with colorful annuals. And that was a

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replicate nature. And William Robinson came along, you know, kind

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basically is the person who is responsible for everything that

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we think is gardening today. And it's so wild to think,

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gardens now simply did not exist like it was. It

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was impossible to imagine until William Robinson came along. And

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William Robinson wrote two seminal books that you can still

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find today. You can usually download them for free if

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you are an ebook reader, because of course they are

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well off copyright, The Wild Garden, which is my personal

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favorite and my biggest inspiration, and The English Flower Garden.

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before photos, so they have some illustrations, and I think

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there might be some more modern versions with some photography,

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but these are really the books that kind of brought

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us to where we are now. And if you admire

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the gardens of you know, just to name a few

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big names, Omi and Van Sweden who really kind of

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brought this style of planting out in the nineteen nineties,

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or more recently Pete Audolph. That's really they were sort

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of informed by William Robinson's style and it was such

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a sea change from what had been happening. So I

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really got inspired to read William Robinson and learn more

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about him and his planting style and everything that he

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contributed through the wild Garden at Wavehill. So Wavehill is

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an absolutely incredible public garden in the Bronx in New

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York City. It's not one that people usually visit. It's

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off the beaten Path. You can't take the subway to it.

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take a cab or a you know, ride share. There's

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lots of ways to get there now. You can take

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a bus. But if you have a trip planned to

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New York City and you're going to see one garden,

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you know, of course I've been to the New York

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Botanical gard and that's my alma matter, that's where I

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went to horticulture school, and of course I love it.

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I've been to the Brooklyn Botanical Garden. But if you

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were going to spend your time in one single garden

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in New York City, I would urge you to make

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it Wave Hill because it is just so beautiful and

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so inspiring. And the Wild Garden at Wavehill is to

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me the most awe inspiring of all, which is really

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saying something, because the entire garden, from the moment that

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you walk in, will just completely take your breath away.

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The Wild Garden was based on the work of William Robinson,

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and it has a really cool kind of seating area,

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and the centerpiece of the plants in the garden is

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a giant, beautiful, mature cut leaf Sumaco and it is

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just it's trained and grown in this way that really

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sort of epitomizes everything that William Robinson was teaching, which

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is to take plants, especially native plants, and don't really

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take the wild out of them, but use your gardening skills,

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in your gardener's eye and your artist's eye to make

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them sort of more of a sculptural element. He really

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wasn't looking for ornament, he was looking for plants themselves

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as ornament. And that's what this sumac at the Wave

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Hill Garden really does. And I always knew that someday

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when I had house, I was gonna want to have

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the same plan in my garden, just because it's so

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beautiful and so interesting. But then I got a house,

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and my quarter acre suburban town lot isn't really necessarily

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that amenable to this very large plant that also suckers.

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comes up all over the place. It becomes kind of

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a management nightmare. And so I found, much to my surprise,

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I wasn't planning this. It just kind of turned out

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this way that one of our plants in the proven

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Winter's Color Choice Shrubs line allowed me to reinterpret this

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concept in a way that actually worked for my yard,

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and that is lemony lace elderberry. And I've said it before,

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this is a plant that I've always liked from the

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first time that I saw it, but I didn't love

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it until it came into my garden. And I am

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just just love, love love, I'm just smitten with this plant,

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and it really has a lot of the same qualities.

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So it has as you might guess by the name

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yellow very cut leaf foliage, it isn't going to be

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quite well. Mine's pretty young still, so it may develop

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more of a sculptural kind of aspect like the sumac

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at Wave Hill did, but it does a lot of

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the same things and it kind of has evolved therefore

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into my own little interpretation of the wild garden in

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my yard like that. It's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: I've been to New York City many times. How come

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I've never been to Wave Hill Gardens. Thank you for

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the inspiration.

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Speaker 2: The book A trip right now. It's it's so great.

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Speaker 1: I have to do that. And Lemonie lace I have

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that in my landscape. Had visitors this past weekend from Oklahoma.

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That was the plant they were drawn to in my landscape.

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Speaker 2: I'm not surprised because it is such a great plant.

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So it is hardy down to Usdazon four heat tolerant

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through USDA Zone seven, So not sure your Oklahoma visitors

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would have a ton of success with it. It is

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not the most heat tolerant. Apologies to are hot climate friends.

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You might look into that sumac for your gardens instead.

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part shade. And I've also found that it's very drought tolerant,

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so you know, I don't really do supplemental watering. Mine

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is probably three or four years old now, my lemony lace,

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and you know, no supplemental water, and it's doing fine.

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It doesn't like dry out or get stressed or anything.

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Of course, that probably helps that it's in part shade.

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In addition to being hardy USDA zones four to seven,

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it is four to seven feet tall and wide now

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in my garden. Because of that lack of water, I

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anticipate it staying on the smaller side. But this plant

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just brings so much into my garden, and I like

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that it gives me some continuity because of course I

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can't go to Wave Hill all the time anymore. I

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don't live in the Bronx like I used to, and

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so it kind of I like that it calls to

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mind that same experience and love that I've had for

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that garden and all the great times I've had in

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that garden, but in a way that actually works for

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my yard. So it's kind of like, you know, a

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point of continuity between those two things. It is also

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a native species, so Sambucus rasimosa is our native red elderberry.

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It blooms early in spring. So most of our elderberries

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bloom in summer. Sambucus rassamosa red elderberry blooms very early

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in spring. It actually blooms generally before the leaves come out,

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nice white flower clusters, fragrant, and as soon as those

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flowers kind of start to form, the foliage comes out.

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When it emerges, it's this beautiful red color and the

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light hits it and it's just it's a magical, magical plant.

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And I really I like that. It has, you know, again,

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given me this apportunity to kind of take a bunch

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of my inspirations and reinterpret them in my own backyard.

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Speaker 1: I really like that. And I would add to that

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also on the color wheel, opposite colors attract or can

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provide some real impactful inspiration in your landscape. And my

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Lemonee lace, Stacey, I have blue fortune agasthat.

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Speaker 2: Oh I have one, You're there too.

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Speaker 1: I have that combination. Is I think it's inspired.

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Speaker 2: It is, it is. It's a beautiful plant, so if

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you can grow it, I would highly encourage you at

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least checking it out. It's also very derresistant. They have

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never touched mine even once, which is definitely saying something

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for where I have it. So we will share some

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pictures on the YouTube version of the show if you

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are interested in seeing that, and you're not already tuned

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in there, but that's Lemony Lace and that's today's plant

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on trial, so you can decide if it earns a

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spot in your garden, wild garden or not. And Adriana

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will put some links to William Robinson's works in the

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comments on YouTube or the caption YouTube as well. We're

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going to take a little break. When we come back,

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the Gardening Simplified Show where it's one of my favorite

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That's a website. There's a contact form there. But I

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more timely manner than we'll be able to give you

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on the show. Just don't want to leave anybody hanging,

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especially in all this heat and stress and drought and humidity.

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And I mean, are you liking this? You know, you

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talk a lot about how much you love this summer

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in July is your favorite month and the heat. And

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I am wondering, like.

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Speaker 1: You're going to get in trouble for saying this, But

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I just love it, Okay, good, I can't help it.

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I love it. I suffer during the wintertime, good, And

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that's why I said, when it comes to inspiration, embrace

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the seasons. And I've been working real hard to embrace winter.

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But it's a struggle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't embrace winter. But I also am not

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loving being you know, four to six inches deficient in rain.

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That it's a little drug that is making this July

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a little bit tough to enjoy.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie speaking of inspiration. As my good

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friend the Vincent van Grow would say, it's getting a

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little sketchy out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah all right, So with that, Rick, what do we

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got in the midle there?

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Speaker 1: Forgive me, I'm only humored, Okay. Carla writes to us,

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I have purchased a chokeberry bush. It's July it's full

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of green berries. I worry it will send its energy

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to making fruit instead of getting roots established. Should I

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trim off the berries or will that encourage it to

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send out new growth?

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Speaker 2: So, Carla, I am in the camp that you shouldn't

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do a thing. Just keep it watered and keep it happy,

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and the plant will basically decide I'm using air quotes

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here if it can maintain that fruit or not, because

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if it has you know, plants basically have an energy budget,

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just as we have an energy budget, and if they

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have enough energy in that budget to both maintain the

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fruit and grow roots, then they will do so correct

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and if they don't, then they will drop that fruit

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because they are capable of doing that. Of just saying

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like whoa too stressed? Need to concentrate on root growth

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this fold, these fruits are out of here. I think

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sometimes people get that was a piece of advice that

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was often given, I think in earlier years, that you

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should take all the buds off your new apple tree

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or you know, and it's just like, do you really

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not have anything better to do? Or do not trust

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plants to kind of be able to do this stuff?

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Speaker 1: You know? Fruit drop is a very real thing on

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fruit trees. Plants are smart. Plant foliage will fold on

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itself to conserve moisture. So I agree with you. Let

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nature take its course.

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Speaker 2: Right, So definitely keep it healthy, keep it happy. If

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you are as dry as we have been in West Michigan,

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make sure you're giving it, you know, some good water.

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Even though chokeberry erronea is very very drought tolerant as

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well as wet soil tolerant. You want to avoid them

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being stressed, you know, during their first year. But I

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think you're gonna get lucky, Carla, and have a beautiful

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crop of red fruit to enjoy our very first year,

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as well as a healthy, well established plant.

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Speaker 1: I've got a really nice letter from a listener, Brenda,

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who discovered US two months ago. She wants our feedback

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on an idea she has. I've recently taken over the

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maintenance of an established garden in Wisconsin, Zone five. The

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garden has several overgrown areas. One area in particular that

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I am keen to enhance has a large raised bed

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of Bishop's weed.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, my most hated plant.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, your most hated plant that is self contained.

474
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It's more than I could remove any time soon. Thoughts

475
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about intermingling Fallen Love's sweetly Japanese anemones within the Bishop

476
00:27:07,599 --> 00:27:11,160
weed patch? Will they commingle nicely? Will one or the

477
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,319
other outcompete the other? Will the anemones spread to other

478
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,559
separate parts of the garden by seed, et cetera, et cetera?

479
00:27:19,599 --> 00:27:22,319
And how many years will it take for new plants

480
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to bloom. I'm hesitant to experiment in a garden that

481
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I do not personally own, and I've declined inviting anemonies

482
00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:33,039
into my own garden for fear of an invasion. So

483
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I have zero experience in growing.

484
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Speaker 2: So what Brenda is proposing here is fighting fire with fire. Yeah,

485
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,920
that's an interesting approach to me. I don't know if

486
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,920
I've ever kind of dealt with with a bed of

487
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,519
an invasive, difficult to manage plant and thought, you know what,

488
00:27:53,079 --> 00:27:56,400
I'm going to grow another invasive somewhat difficult Well, I mean,

489
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Japanese enemies aren't invasive. They're aggressive, but you don't for

490
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can only find them, you know, popping up in the

491
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woods or out stepping their boundaries. But they are a

492
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very aggressive garden plant.

493
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Speaker 1: They're aggressive but gorgeous.

494
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Speaker 2: They're gorgeous. They are so pretty. I mean, it's hard

495
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to resist how pretty the flowers are.

496
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Speaker 1: I kind of like this though, you know, let them

497
00:28:17,759 --> 00:28:19,759
duke it out and figure it out.

498
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, now I can't say who will win. That's

499
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,000
the tricky part. I mean, Egapodium Bishop's weed is such

500
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,559
an aggressive plant as well, and that's why it is

501
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,920
so invasive and so difficult to manage. Both of them

502
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,440
are very shade tolerant. Both the Japanese and eemone and

503
00:28:35,519 --> 00:28:39,799
the Bishop's weed are very very shade tolerant. So you know,

504
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,079
whether this will work, I don't know, but I do

505
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,640
think it's worth a try. You know, it would be

506
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,480
easier if the plant you're trying to out compete was

507
00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:51,640
a sun lover, and that the Japanese and Emenies would

508
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,160
then provide the shade and kind of shade it out.

509
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,880
But I think that it might be able to compete.

510
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,079
I wouldn't worry too much. I feel like the Japanese

511
00:28:59,079 --> 00:29:01,799
and Emenies don't spread by seeds so much as they

512
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spread by roots.

513
00:29:04,039 --> 00:29:08,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's true, well, very very true. Yes, But

514
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,599
I'm just sitting here thinking why not just kill the

515
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,559
Bishop's weed first and then plant away. But maybe you're

516
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,000
I don't know, you're hesitant to do that because you

517
00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:18,359
don't own the property.

518
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe they don't want to use pesticides for whatever reason,

519
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,519
because you know, again, I am for the judicial use

520
00:29:24,519 --> 00:29:26,599
of pesticides. But as far as I'm concerned, if it's

521
00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:29,559
an invasive plant, that's a pretty darn good special. If

522
00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:33,839
it's bishop of pesticides, yes, I will admit I got

523
00:29:33,839 --> 00:29:36,279
great pleasure from killing the bit of Bishop's weed that

524
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was in my yard when we purchased the house. So Brenda,

525
00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:42,160
if you don't want to just straight out, you know,

526
00:29:42,279 --> 00:29:45,160
spray the Bishop's weed to get rid of it, I

527
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,319
think it's worth a try. The fall in Love Sweetly

528
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,880
is the proven winner's variety. It may not be as

529
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,960
aggressive as some of the older varieties like Honourine Jobert,

530
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,839
which are easier to find, so you might want to

531
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,240
start with something that you know is more aggressive, because

532
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,519
a lot of times the winter's plants are bred to

533
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,400
be less aggressive and a little bit more refined, so

534
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,160
that might not have the competition level that you need

535
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,880
for this project. So I would try it with one

536
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,240
of those. The great thing about the Japanese and Emenies.

537
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If you can find someone who has them, they always

538
00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:16,839
have them to spare, so you don't necessarily need to

539
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,839
invest a bunch of money in buying the plants.

540
00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: So and I love them. I love the way they

541
00:30:21,759 --> 00:30:25,799
dance in the landscape. I guess my advice would be,

542
00:30:26,119 --> 00:30:29,240
why just pick one type of plant? If you're going

543
00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:33,000
to get in there and fight with that bishop's weeds,

544
00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:35,839
let's pick out a few different types of plants.

545
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could definitely do that. And you know, of

546
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,319
course the Japanese and Emenies don't really do much until fall,

547
00:30:41,519 --> 00:30:44,640
so you might want some other stuff in there just

548
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,720
to keep it interesting. But you know, you'd have to

549
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,160
do some some research onto what else could be as aggressive.

550
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,880
But I would I would start small, get some plants

551
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,920
from someone who has some, and put them in there

552
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,440
and see what happens and let us know, because this

553
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:04,920
fighting fire with fire technique could potentially be a brilliant

554
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:05,559
new solution.

555
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,079
Speaker 1: Sounds like a great joke. A bishops weed and an

556
00:31:08,079 --> 00:31:11,119
emonee walked into a bar. Now, okay, we'll move on.

557
00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:16,559
Marjorie writes, I have several varieties of PW. Perennial hibiscus

558
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,759
in my gardens every summer, the Japanese beetles skeletonize the

559
00:31:20,839 --> 00:31:24,480
leaves but leave the flowers alone. Also, the darker foliage

560
00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:27,240
Hibiscus seem to be more affected than the green ones.

561
00:31:27,839 --> 00:31:30,400
Is this the color or just the location? These are

562
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,279
my favorite plants. They make such a statement when in bloom.

563
00:31:33,319 --> 00:31:36,640
I agree. Please advise on how to keep the Japanese

564
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,000
beetles at bay oof.

565
00:31:39,359 --> 00:31:41,759
Speaker 2: You know, that's a tough one. That is a tough one. Now,

566
00:31:42,039 --> 00:31:44,880
of course there are traps out there, but many people say,

567
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,160
if you are a gardener, don't put the trap in

568
00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:50,079
your yard because it will just bring literally putting all

569
00:31:50,119 --> 00:31:53,400
the Japanese beetles your yard. If your neighbor's not a gardener,

570
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,880
perhaps they will let you put one in their yard

571
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,839
because it doesn't, you know, if they don't have plants

572
00:31:58,839 --> 00:32:01,880
that they're trying to, you know, to conserve, or if

573
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,400
you have maybe a common area in your neighborhood and

574
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,359
you can put it over there. I think that the

575
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:12,400
best management approach for Japanese beetles is definitely to go

576
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,759
after the grubs, either with a nematode, a predatory nematode,

577
00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:19,960
or BT, which is the only thing that BT is

578
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,559
actually effective against is Japanese beetles, but it takes a

579
00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:26,440
couple of years for the population to get established in

580
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,000
your garden as far as the varieties go. You know,

581
00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:31,880
there's something that we see here very often in our trials,

582
00:32:32,359 --> 00:32:35,279
and that is that some roses initially seem to be

583
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,359
less favored by Japanese beetles than others. We have noticed

584
00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:43,200
that roses with thicker, more glossier leaves seem to be

585
00:32:43,319 --> 00:32:46,880
less favored. However, I would not ever take that to

586
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,000
mean that if that was the only rose that you

587
00:32:49,079 --> 00:32:52,440
had in your garden, that the Japanese beetles would ignore it.

588
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,319
It's just so much harder to test if there is

589
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,920
true resistance within a plant or it is just the location,

590
00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:05,039
like Marjuri said so, and breeding Japanese beetle resistance again

591
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,680
is also not as straightforward as like breeding for another

592
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,160
color or breeding for a different size. So I don't

593
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,079
have any great news for you on that front. Maybe

594
00:33:14,079 --> 00:33:17,519
one day, but I would do some research into controlling

595
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,759
the grubs. I found a great publication from the USDA

596
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,440
on this, and Adriana will link that so you can

597
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,400
get the benefit of that information and hopefully get a

598
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,119
handle on your Japanese beetles. But hey, at least you're

599
00:33:31,119 --> 00:33:34,400
still getting flowers on those summerifics, so that's a good thing.

600
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Speaker 1: I spram with kneem oil or insect decidal so during

601
00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:43,119
the heavy pressure periods, and last night I was out

602
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,240
there hand picking them and Marjorie I found it to

603
00:33:46,319 --> 00:33:47,599
be very therapeutic.

604
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,279
Speaker 2: Oh, that's good to know. You can also kind of

605
00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:51,240
just take the plant and shake it over a bucket

606
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,279
of soapy water and let them all fall in there.

607
00:33:53,359 --> 00:33:55,160
Or get chickens. Chickens do you love to eat them too?

608
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,079
So not all practical advice for you, but hopefully we've

609
00:33:59,079 --> 00:34:01,319
got some nuggets in there to help you out.

610
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Speaker 1: Oh nuggets, good one.

611
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Speaker 2: We're going to take a little break. When we come back,

612
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we're continuing our conversation on garden inspiration, so please stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Gardening simplified show. As we talk

619
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about inspiration and stacy. These days, I think most people

620
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:44,920
are finding inspiration for plants and landscapes via a digital source, YouTube,

621
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or whatever it may be. But with well over forty

622
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,840
years in the garden center industry, I will tell you

623
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,719
that you can find inspiration at garden centers and greenhouses,

624
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,320
and I encourage you there are many a wonderful we

625
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:06,159
call them igc's independent garden centers throughout the United States

626
00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:10,760
and Canada and of course in Europe where you can

627
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,320
walk through and get inspired. And I can tell you,

628
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:18,400
having worked in a garden center for years, I could

629
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,079
point out to you a number of people who would

630
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,400
come on their lunch hour and just wander around, and

631
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:26,880
it's a great way to get inspired.

632
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 2: It is like a garden. And you know what, the

633
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,400
IGC the garden center offers something that you can't do

634
00:35:32,639 --> 00:35:36,159
necessarily at a public garden or a neighbor's garden, and

635
00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:37,920
that is that you can take the plants and move

636
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,159
them all around right and hopefully not leave them that there,

637
00:35:41,199 --> 00:35:43,159
but you know, take some, put them on your cart,

638
00:35:43,199 --> 00:35:45,400
and then go and find those combinations. It kind of

639
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,920
lets us like a try before you buy situation. You

640
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,000
can't do that everywhere.

641
00:35:49,119 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: That's exactly it. Of course, Proven Winners provides a lot

642
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:57,119
of great recipes online that will help give you inspiration.

643
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,679
But you're right about that, Stacey, because I would also

644
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:04,639
watch people who would experience or participate in something I

645
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,639
call plants envy, and that is when someone has filled

646
00:36:08,679 --> 00:36:11,719
their cart up with plants, someone else looks at what's

647
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,960
on their cart and now we're full circle back to

648
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,000
the whole copy there.

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00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, where'd you find that? Ooh, I want one of those. Yeah,

650
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,679
I've seen that. I've been responsible for that on both

651
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,239
ends myself. Sometimes it's just a matter of you couldn't

652
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,239
find it and they just saw that part earlier, and

653
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,679
you're like, show me where you got that.

654
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,119
Speaker 1: I want that exactly exactly. You know when it comes

655
00:36:32,159 --> 00:36:34,880
to inspiration too. I was thinking about this the other day.

656
00:36:35,159 --> 00:36:38,960
Let's not forget about the renters. I looked that up

657
00:36:39,199 --> 00:36:42,159
the other day and it said in the United States,

658
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as of twenty twenty four, there are approximately forty four

659
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:52,320
million renter occupied housing units. And when I was doing

660
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:57,360
my live gardening show, when someone would walk up to

661
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,800
me and say, hey, I love listening to your show,

662
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,519
and I don't even own a home. I would always

663
00:37:02,559 --> 00:37:05,400
love it when they would say that. And so my

664
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:09,159
point is is, if you want to get inspired, participate

665
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:14,760
in some container gardening. And again I love some of

666
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,719
the work out there with proven winners where we get

667
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,599
a little daring and we'd put flowering shrubs in containers

668
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:22,719
and it's doable.

669
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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, you can do the mix. You can do

670
00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:28,159
them on their own and a great thing, especially if

671
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you do rent you may not have a lot of privacy.

672
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You can use shrubs and containers to give yourself a

673
00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:36,599
little temporary privacy. And that's a you know, very easy

674
00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:39,280
thing that you can do. There's just yeah, there's so

675
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,119
many different ways to use containers and so much inspiration

676
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,960
out there, you know, a lot. Like I was saying before,

677
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,000
it's hard to believe there was a time where container

678
00:37:47,039 --> 00:37:49,679
gardening was little more than you know, the cauldron or

679
00:37:49,679 --> 00:37:53,280
the swan, right and you put like a geranium in there,

680
00:37:53,039 --> 00:37:57,400
the whiskey barrels of course, the original container and now

681
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,639
container gardening is you know, is mostly probably what drives

682
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,840
annual planting every year. And I love, love, love my containers.

683
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,960
I don't put really any annuals in the ground. All

684
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,679
the annuals I do are in containers well, and.

685
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Speaker 1: The beauty of it is, if you're a renter, they're

686
00:38:14,559 --> 00:38:16,840
on the balcony. As you garden, you're not going to

687
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,840
have deer pressure, at least most likely not going to

688
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,920
have deer pressure. As a matter of fact, I have

689
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,599
a picture to share with you our YouTube viewers of

690
00:38:25,679 --> 00:38:29,440
a neighbor of mine who was frustrated with the deer

691
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,639
pressure on arbor vities, and so he just planted them

692
00:38:32,679 --> 00:38:36,199
all up in containers and has them on his deck

693
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,159
overlooking the yard. I guess he was inspired to do

694
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:46,440
something about deer. Trees, of course, are inspirational. They're an anchor,

695
00:38:46,559 --> 00:38:50,280
a ceiling, a focal point in spring when they leave

696
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,360
out in summer, when they provide shade, their fall color

697
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,559
and shadows during the fall season of course, and then

698
00:38:57,599 --> 00:39:02,119
in winter their structure. I find a tree, for example,

699
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,760
like a ginko tree, a living fossil that's survived for

700
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,480
millions of years, as a tree that's inspiring to me,

701
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:12,840
especially when it turns color and fall. I just love it,

702
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you know.

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Speaker 2: And trees also, if you are more of a birder,

704
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you will have so many more birds in your yard

705
00:39:19,199 --> 00:39:21,519
if you have a tree, at least one tree. And

706
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,760
I have found too that you know where you place

707
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,119
your feeders makes a big difference if you plant them,

708
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,280
if you place your feeders near a tree, and if so,

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if birds or what are inspiring you, you place your

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feeders near a tree, and the birds feel safe, like

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they have a place to flee to. If you know

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a hawk flies by overhead or something, you'll get a

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lot more birds. And so that's another way that you

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can kind of combine your passions in an inspiring way

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to get even better results.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I think it's important to remember again

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if you're trying to get inspired with your landscape. Some

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plants just live for drama. I think about Bird of Paradise, Strelitzia,

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or even let's talk about Hollywood high biscus. I mentioned

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how with my landscape I wanted to get that tropical

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feel in my landscape and did that with a variety

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of plants, But if you add something like Hollywood high biscus,

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that will really give you that feel. Some plants inspire

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when it's their time to take the stage. Lilacs in spring,

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lavender in summer. So again, I keep going back to

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this thing, Stacy, where you have to focus in on

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the vibe that you're trying to create, and I think

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you might be amazed at how inspiration will come along.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. You know, one of the things that

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I'm finding super inspiring in my garden at this very

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moment is my cup plant Selphia portfoliatum in full flower.

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And you know, this thing is towering ten feet above

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my garden. Absolutely love to see it, and I if

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you look at it, you spend any amount of time

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looking at it, you will just be again inspired by

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the amount of the diversity of creatures that this thing

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is attracting and supporting. I mean, at any given moment,

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there are just dozens and dozens of different species of insects.

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There's butterflies, there's goldfinches, there's hummingbirds, and they're all just

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buzzing around this plant. And that's why igarden, that's my

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vibe is you know, let's get all these insects in here.

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I want to stand in my garden and be at

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least somewhat deafened by the humming of insects like that

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is my vibe. That's what I love now. Probably no

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one's going to copy that. It's a hard sell, I understand,

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but I love it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, try it. If it doesn't work,

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then you can try something else. Not all inspirations are great.

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I mean, the Beatles were considered a great rock and

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roll band, but not all their songs were great.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, when bats a thousand.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you ever listen they have a song called

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dig It.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that one.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's terrible. But you know, I have a friend

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and we talk about this where he gets his motivation

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from doing things that most people don't do. And I

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have found that my whole life also is if I'm

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willing to dive in and do something that most people

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don't do, you find inspiration. Yeah, you can make you

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can make yourself look silly, but you find inspiration that way.

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And a garden is just like your mind. It's easier

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to be inspired when you clear the clutter, brain fog.

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That's why I need to clean out my garden, shed

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take inventory of what brings you joy. Gardening is the

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slowest of the performing arts now, Stacy Adriana. We we

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got that comment from a listener on YouTube, and I

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thought that that was brilliant and it's something to sit

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back and think about. Gardening is the slowest of the

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performing arts. I love that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true you need a lot of patience, but

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it's uh but you're always it's in a constant it's

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just dynamic. Even though it's slow, there's always something happening.

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But a garden's never really finished, so speed is kind

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of relative.

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Speaker 1: So to inspire and I agree, And that's why I say,

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again coming from the garden center industry, when I see

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people pick a Saturday in May and that's when they

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get everything, buy everything. You're going to get it all

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done that day. It doesn't work that way.

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Speaker 2: Your centers are open other days besides Saturdays in May.

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Speaker 1: And we have the upcoming fall season which is just

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so important and so.

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Speaker 2: Great, and PS has a lot of sales there you.

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Speaker 1: Go exactly So to inspire you and taking a look

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at your home life landscape, I'm going to say this,

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and that is domestic landscape design is about taking risk,

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sometimes taking the path less trodden, and being brave with

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design choices. Yes, again, your neighbors may be watching through

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the curtains. You might not be successful, just like some

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of the Beatles songs. But you got to get out

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there and try, because, as I said at the outset

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of the show, there's insight and there's movement. You gotta

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have both and hopefully you'll find an inspiration that will

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bring you real joy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, Well this has been fun.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're inspired. Thank you Stacy, thank you Rick,

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thank you Adriana, and thanks to all of you. Remember

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you can get our show via YouTube podcast wherever you

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get your favorite podcast. Of course our radio show version,

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and make sure to visit our website, Gardening Simplify on

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air dot com. Have a great week.

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