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Speaker 2: Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going
Speaker 2: on here. Something just kid with my dog. Something killed
Speaker 2: your dog? My dog. We're flying through there, over the tree.
Speaker 2: I don't know how it did it? Okay, damn, I'm
Speaker 2: really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
Speaker 2: the fence, and they would dead once you hit the ground.
Speaker 2: I didn't see any cars. All I saw was my
Speaker 2: dog coming over the fence. Made What are you reporting?
Speaker 2: We got some wonder or something crawling around out here?
Speaker 2: Did you see what it was? It was enough out
Speaker 2: here looking. I'm near the window now and I don't
Speaker 2: need anything. I don't want to go out tight. It's fight.
Speaker 3: You're hello?
Speaker 2: Hit somebody out here? I went on out there. I
Speaker 2: thought of a bit of about text forty nine. I
Speaker 2: don't know easy ann out there. Yeah, I'm walking right heady.
Speaker 1: I put someone welcome my guest to the show. It
Speaker 1: is John from Louisiana. Welcome to the show, sir, Thank
Speaker 1: you glad to be here. Let's talk about this bigfoot thing.
Speaker 1: What in the world got you interested in the subject
Speaker 1: to begin with?
Speaker 3: I used to bowl hunt in West Virginia. It was
Speaker 3: about twenty years I stopped hunting more that's went up
Speaker 3: there to see my parents. One year we went up
Speaker 3: there to visit the company I worked for with Shell,
Speaker 3: and they had these little devices on your wrist they
Speaker 3: count your steps. So I said, I'm gonna go for
Speaker 3: a walk. I went up to an area above my
Speaker 3: mom and dad's house. It was like a holiday It
Speaker 3: went up in the mountains. They called it five right,
Speaker 3: So I went up to five right, walked around on it.
Speaker 3: I don't remember how many steps, so it was a
Speaker 3: good little walk, and I went behind what used to
Speaker 3: be the tipple, where a low coal out. So I
Speaker 3: was coming back, the rope went up and crossed up. Well,
Speaker 3: it coming back almost following the same direction you would
Speaker 3: call it from. While I was coming back, started going
Speaker 3: back to my parents. I was actually below where I
Speaker 3: had passed, so I was walking. I heard the four knocks,
Speaker 3: but it wasn't like a real stick knocker, was like
Speaker 3: a staff hit the stump to me. Did it four times,
Speaker 3: So I stopped in my tracks and I looked up
Speaker 3: in the haller, which this is late in the eating.
Speaker 3: I'm on the dark side of the ridge. And I
Speaker 3: can't really see anything. It's dark in the olive. I
Speaker 3: could see silhouettes on the top of the ridge, but
Speaker 3: I looked up in there. I looked in the holler
Speaker 3: and I could see nothing. So I started walking again.
Speaker 3: It comes four more the same sounded like somebody taking
Speaker 3: a staff and jammling it into a stump. Go what sada,
Speaker 3: I'm into the real rule. I passed up all the houses,
Speaker 3: so I knew it would nobody from the house, and
Speaker 3: they wouldn't climb way up three or four hour foot
Speaker 3: up the side of that mountain to play a joke
Speaker 3: on me. So I looked, strained my eyes, and the
Speaker 3: hollered trying to see something I still couldn't see. So
Speaker 3: I turned and looked down to make my first step,
Speaker 3: make sure I wouldn't step on anything. And then all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, something was thrown at me, but it
Speaker 3: went over the top of the trees. It was so fast.
Speaker 3: By the time I heard it hitting the trees and
Speaker 3: I turned and looked, it had already passed. It was fast.
Speaker 3: I could still see the top the little dems, it
Speaker 3: all still moving. I'm won a lot, and I said,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to go So I was packing a
Speaker 3: pistol with me and I grabbed that under zipped my
Speaker 3: goat where I could get to it, and I went
Speaker 3: off home. So I told my parents about it, and
Speaker 3: they said, I can't think of the guy's nae right now.
Speaker 3: Charlie Schwartz, my wife, he minded, it's got a better
Speaker 3: memory with Charlie Schwartz. She said. Charlie Schwartz was up there,
Speaker 3: which is they got a place called the Goldfish Pond.
Speaker 3: He was sleeping in the van. He had somebody camping
Speaker 3: on the ridge, a little bit of high spoted buck,
Speaker 3: you know, and supposedly he said that a bigfoot dragged
Speaker 3: his finger across his van all the way to the front.
Speaker 3: I dan Tanda and woke him up, and they were
Speaker 3: eyeball to eyeball. I said, hut, I said, what throws
Speaker 3: rocks and sticks? That's where I got my introduction the bigfoot.
Speaker 3: I didn't see him, but the information was pointing in
Speaker 3: that direction that our witness. I told my wife about
Speaker 3: it that she started getting a little curious, and we
Speaker 3: started doing a lot of research on YouTube, and they
Speaker 3: had a guy named Patrick Bond. I don't know if
Speaker 3: you're familiar with him. He hasn't been on YouTube in
Speaker 3: a while, but he was a really doorsy person around
Speaker 3: Gustache area of around Alexandria, Louisianne. He was like a
Speaker 3: primitive deer hunter. He always used old smoke bowl. He
Speaker 3: carried a big old long knife he made. That's what
Speaker 3: he carried when he was looking for a big fuddy.
Speaker 3: He says, don't ever do more than one tree knock
Speaker 3: because he thinks the rest of them will more address
Speaker 3: that you do more. Before that, me and my nephew
Speaker 3: had went up there and did three or four tree knocks.
Speaker 3: We never got any replies, never, so I didn't think
Speaker 3: no more about it. But then when I heard Patrick
Speaker 3: Bond talking about that, then me and my wife and
Speaker 3: nephew and grandson went up there. So we went to
Speaker 3: the Goldfish Bond. This time we did one tree knock,
Speaker 3: but my grandson he wanted to get out of the car.
Speaker 3: He was crying. He wanted to get out of the car.
Speaker 3: So we let him out, which was probably a mistake.
Speaker 3: Told my nephew get the stick out and hit the tree.
Speaker 3: As soon as we hit the tree, it was like
Speaker 3: somebody was standing there watching us. And as soon as
Speaker 3: we hit the tree, it replied immediately, so I'm going back,
Speaker 3: I say, He hit it again and see if we
Speaker 3: get that. Go.
Speaker 4: He hit it again.
Speaker 3: We didn't get no, replied I said, that's not no
Speaker 3: way it come. I said, let's go. So we took off,
Speaker 3: started down the mountain and we got through a switch back.
Speaker 3: My nephew got braved. He said stop and let me
Speaker 3: do another one. I said, okay, I'll stop. He said,
Speaker 3: get the stick out of the back. So he went
Speaker 3: to the back of the day she'd read. He pulled
Speaker 3: out the stick and they threw it back in and
Speaker 3: he slammed the door. Said wait a minute, I thought
Speaker 3: you were going to do another tree dog. He said,
Speaker 3: whatever is right above us? Said, it's running around. I said,
Speaker 3: let's go. So that's some of the things that happened
Speaker 3: to us up in West Virginia. In the meantime, back
Speaker 3: to Louisiana. It was during colvid What was that twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3: I think it was in March. Maybe. We decided to
Speaker 3: go to Kustashi and go camping. She wanted to go camping.
Speaker 3: I had bought a tent from somebody, second hand tent,
Speaker 3: nice tent, and went over there to kastache it. And
Speaker 3: when we got there, we had a campground. It's called
Speaker 3: Red Bloods. We were the only ones there. There was
Speaker 3: nobody there. I said, man, that's strange. They had a
Speaker 3: few camper along the road a little bit in the
Speaker 3: woods that weren't on campgrounds, but that was probably a
Speaker 3: half a mile to maybe three quarters of a mile
Speaker 3: away from that campground. I had some real bad trouble
Speaker 3: with my knees. We tried some hyping. The first night
Speaker 3: we didn't have anything really going on except I think
Speaker 3: we might have heard maybe a distance tree nod. But
Speaker 3: the second night we had a distance tree nod. Went
Speaker 3: to bed and then it was about four o'clock in
Speaker 3: the morning. I hear a bunch of canones. It sounded
Speaker 3: like coyotes. I'm not sure what it was. They runned
Speaker 3: like they chasing a deer or something. Wow, so what
Speaker 3: is that? Then I hear this huge tree crash. The
Speaker 3: dogs or the canine just they shut up and didn't
Speaker 3: make another beat. I'm going that's strange. So I'm laying there.
Speaker 3: I reached over to get my pistol and I put
Speaker 3: it on my chest and I'm listening like here the
Speaker 3: bear proof trash can lid drop. Now there's no lights,
Speaker 3: no campers, no cars drove up, no nothing. We're the
Speaker 3: only ones there. So I thought if that would have
Speaker 3: been a bear, I would have heard some fumbling try
Speaker 3: to get that lid up and then drop it. But
Speaker 3: this was quiet and it just dropped. That don't sell right.
Speaker 3: So I'm sitting there looking up at the sky and say,
Speaker 3: oh Lord, I said, get me some light. I was
Speaker 3: getting real nervous. She was snowing. She didn't wake up,
Speaker 3: and I didn't want to wake her up because I
Speaker 3: didn't want her to scream or anything cause it a panic.
Speaker 3: And I'm laying there going that what's going on? Something
Speaker 3: drags a stick or a fanker right above our heads
Speaker 3: across the tent. So I'm hoping for daylight to come on.
Speaker 3: So that was the first Louisiana incident that happened to us.
Speaker 3: I told her what happened. I think she maybe hesitated
Speaker 3: and believe in me, so she wanted to camping again.
Speaker 3: I tuned at the Hills, so we went to Tunica
Speaker 3: Hills I think it was the next weekend or a
Speaker 3: weekend after, and were camping over there once again. It
Speaker 3: sink out a lot of helped people camping over there
Speaker 3: because of the COVID. We set up a tent. She
Speaker 3: put us way in the back, you know, by ourselves.
Speaker 3: We cooked, went this bed and I was laying there
Speaker 3: and itself. I think it was around midnight. It was raccoon.
Speaker 3: He was screaming and all and like somebody had him
Speaker 3: by the scruff of the neck. And then I've seen
Speaker 3: it fly across the campground. What is that? You know,
Speaker 3: our coon's getting aggravated and cut up. So about that
Speaker 3: time she wakes up and she says, I got to
Speaker 3: use the baths, and I said, okay. So we go
Speaker 3: out of the tent and that coon had ran up
Speaker 3: a tree and got up in the fork and just
Speaker 3: looking at us. She used the bathroom. We went back
Speaker 3: to bed, and while I was falling off asleep, it
Speaker 3: sounded like a tree knock. I just thought I was dreaming.
Speaker 3: So the next morning I got up, I told my
Speaker 3: boy man, I had a weird dreaming. I thought I
Speaker 3: heard a tree knock. She says, you heard it, said,
Speaker 3: I guess this wasn't a dream. So we got up
Speaker 3: in the daylight and we seen some tree breaks I said, yeah,
Speaker 3: they're around here too, So that was like a second
Speaker 3: little incident. We started paying attention more to things that
Speaker 3: were going on, and I started asking people if i'd
Speaker 3: see somebody, I'd ask them, you believe in Bigfoot? And
Speaker 3: I was shot plenty times right round here in Pierre Part.
Speaker 3: To give you kind of the lay of the land,
Speaker 3: we're like a little ridge that runs she was swamp. Basically,
Speaker 3: it's about maybe a coulter mile wide, maybe wider in
Speaker 3: some places and narrow and others. That goes all the
Speaker 3: way to the Chapel Lit spillway and the spillway demps
Speaker 3: out into the Gulf. I guess we're probably about had
Speaker 3: a crow fries about twenty miles from the Gulf. Her
Speaker 3: family would first come here and live and work. I
Speaker 3: guess maybe the sixteen hundred Snipcajun's French speaking. So her
Speaker 3: father's family had a big piece of land not from
Speaker 3: my house. It's about forty acres. That's where we started
Speaker 3: going over there and looking around. One day I was
Speaker 3: over there, I'm starting to see tree breaks, and said,
Speaker 3: you know that things might be here. I was curious,
Speaker 3: so I started putting out oranges. I have a naval
Speaker 3: tree that got hit in the last two snows we got,
Speaker 3: which was very unusual. It made big, huge naval oranges.
Speaker 3: So I take him and put him on a tree
Speaker 3: and come back, and all the feeling would still be there,
Speaker 3: like something cut out one side and pulled all the
Speaker 3: meat out of saying, that don't sound like a raccoon.
Speaker 3: Don't work possible, it's not trued on. So I kept
Speaker 3: doing it, and then one day I went out there.
Speaker 3: I was hunting in the same spot where I put
Speaker 3: the oranges out. I climbed up. Somebody had a ladders
Speaker 3: here out and the stands, so I climbed up in
Speaker 3: there and I was just sitting down. It was getting late,
Speaker 3: starting to get dark, so I just glanced down and
Speaker 3: I'm seeing a face. It's laying on his belly with
Speaker 3: his turned it aside and looking right at me. There
Speaker 3: was a lot of briers and stuff around it. So
Speaker 3: I'm going, this must be paradoia what they talking about.
Speaker 3: So I kept hunting. Maybe fifteen twenty minutes later, it
Speaker 3: and still getting dark. So I get down. I said,
Speaker 3: let me go over there and see. So I get
Speaker 3: down and I walk over there. The grass is all
Speaker 3: matted down, and so I'm sitting there looking around, and
Speaker 3: then I hear sipedal footsteps. So I look out to
Speaker 3: the left and I see which is unusual. I never
Speaker 3: seen like eight foot tall black stumps before. So I said,
Speaker 3: let me raise my rifle up. I'm looking at it,
Speaker 3: raised my rifle up, scope looking. I don't see it.
Speaker 3: I put my rifle down. I don't see it disappear.
Speaker 3: I hear of steps and then I see big tall
Speaker 3: black something. That face must have been real. It was
Speaker 3: so subtle. It was almost like if you didn't want
Speaker 3: to believe it, or are you questioning yourself to the extreme.
Speaker 3: After a while, I started thinking, I heard the water
Speaker 3: should where it walked in the swamp. That was my experience,
Speaker 3: a seaing one in that area. We've had all kinds
Speaker 3: of free breaks. I had a coua tree with me
Speaker 3: and my own nephew went out there in the middle
Speaker 3: of the night. It was broke off twelve foot up
Speaker 3: in the air. It was like three to four inches
Speaker 3: round and diamond or twelve foot off the air where
Speaker 3: it broke off, and I knew it was fresh because
Speaker 3: the leaves hadn't even started Wilton yet we hadn't had
Speaker 3: storms around, and I don't think a storm's called blow
Speaker 3: the top of the car tree out because it wasn't right.
Speaker 3: But there was things like this. And then one day
Speaker 3: me and my wife are going back there and she
Speaker 3: finds asterisk. Never seen it, but she's seen it when
Speaker 3: we passed all ted. It was weird. She set it
Speaker 3: off to somebody in Connecticut. He sends her forward just
Speaker 3: like it from Ohio. I said, that ain't by accident.
Speaker 3: But there was another structure I had never seen before.
Speaker 3: I called it a structure, but it was a tree
Speaker 3: with the root system. But the dirt ball was gone
Speaker 3: and it was weaved. Hit it out trees about that big.
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Speaker 3: So I picked it up. I put the one in
Speaker 3: it on the ground. I went a week after it
Speaker 3: was still on the ground. I went the next week.
Speaker 3: It was up. What was strange during that His eye
Speaker 3: was going one time and I seen, and this is
Speaker 3: a good distant scene. There's a dark spot on the
Speaker 3: right which I don't recognize. I'm not gonna say why
Speaker 3: it was because I don't recognize when I make a
Speaker 3: certain turn in the road. When I started walking to
Speaker 3: go check on that tree, there's a box turtle in
Speaker 3: the middle of the road. Okay, maybe it's nothing. I
Speaker 3: went back there and picked it back up. I put
Speaker 3: it back down, and so that the next time I
Speaker 3: went to check, nothing was going on. But me and
Speaker 3: my wife went another time and it was back up.
Speaker 3: So we walked in. Can we walk towards, going towards
Speaker 3: where I've seen it on the deer stand we're walking in,
Speaker 3: they got a big overgrown crawfish pard on the left.
Speaker 3: So we went up on the levee and we sitting
Speaker 3: there standing looking around, and I hear a real faint
Speaker 3: woolf and I asked her, I said, did you hear that?
Speaker 3: She says what, I didn't hear nothing. I said it
Speaker 3: was a whool She said I didn't hear it. So
Speaker 3: we kept walking to the back and we crossed a pipeline.
Speaker 3: And this is all in her daddy's property. So we
Speaker 3: crossed the pipeline. But on the way to that pipeline,
Speaker 3: I seen some tree breaks, so I went to get
Speaker 3: a closer look at him. With tree breaks, they don't
Speaker 3: twist like that, and this one was twisted. The first
Speaker 3: one I seemed twisted. But when I walked up there
Speaker 3: to look at it, I hear a tree knot. So
Speaker 3: I asked her, I said, did you hear that tree note?
Speaker 3: She says, yeah, I heard it. I said, okay, let's go.
Speaker 3: So we went over there where I had the oranges out,
Speaker 3: and I think I was putting out some more oranges.
Speaker 3: She'd stayed back a little bit, and by that time
Speaker 3: she was nervous about being separated, putting any distance between us.
Speaker 3: We went to where I took a clorox ball and
Speaker 3: I panted the green so people wouldn't mess with it.
Speaker 3: In a tree. A d cap screwed the Origines into
Speaker 3: the screw raised it up about hay to ten foot.
Speaker 3: I think I might have been fooling with that. I
Speaker 3: hear like a log was thrown. I'm talking about the
Speaker 3: big log was thrown into that called the twenty one
Speaker 3: inch pikewive. It's actually it's deep into O's water. People
Speaker 3: travel with boats until they get to where they can't
Speaker 3: go attle more. So I heard that, and I asked her,
Speaker 3: did you hear that? She says, yeah, I heard that
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, there's a big, humongous scream,
Speaker 3: a loud, hot pitch scream. And I said, you heard that.
Speaker 3: She said yeah, and then she heard it again, which
Speaker 3: I didn't hear that, but she said like it was
Speaker 3: going away. I said, we need to go, so we
Speaker 3: started back. When we got to the place where we
Speaker 3: heard the whoop that she didn't hear, I said, I'm
Speaker 3: d a whoop, So I did a faint whoop, and
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, they didn't happen the right way.
Speaker 3: I did it once, and I waited a while, and
Speaker 3: then maybe two or three minutes, and then I did
Speaker 3: it again and nothing. But when I did it the
Speaker 3: third time we heard we heard it breaking ranches and
Speaker 3: hidding trees. It kept hitting trees and breaking stuff. It
Speaker 3: looked like it kept getting further and further away from
Speaker 3: So that was her the first experience. She was scared.
Speaker 3: She said, we need to go. I said, if they
Speaker 3: wanted to kill us, I think we'd be dead already.
Speaker 3: So she wasn't so scared for him. We left out
Speaker 3: of there. When we were walking out, remember the area,
Speaker 3: I said, I found one box turtle. There was two.
Speaker 3: There was two of us. It was like they were
Speaker 3: gifts in us, and I think they might have been
Speaker 3: gifted us. I went there one time by myself. They
Speaker 3: had one went there together, and they had two not
Speaker 3: far from there, me and my grandson. They have a
Speaker 3: guy who lives up by the highway on front of
Speaker 3: the property. It's like the side property of her daddy's property.
Speaker 3: I don't remember if he told me or he told somebody.
Speaker 3: He said he had a young boy and slept in
Speaker 3: the back of his house with a young child that
Speaker 3: wouldn't sleep in there no more because the red eyed monster,
Speaker 3: so he had to move him to the front of
Speaker 3: the house. When I'd walk back there, i'd look around
Speaker 3: to see if I can see any signs or so
Speaker 3: I way over there and I found I don't know
Speaker 3: if it was a top of the tree broken off
Speaker 3: or what, but it was like a pull. It was
Speaker 3: driven into the ground. I took a picture of it.
Speaker 3: You know, all the trees or root system it doesn't
Speaker 3: go like this usually papers down. That all straight down,
Speaker 3: and all the other trees were tapered. So I looked
Speaker 3: a ball to see if it could have fell out
Speaker 3: of somewhat, but I couldn't see anything. That thing is
Speaker 3: probably about six inches and dim, but it was been
Speaker 3: there for a while because I pushed it and just
Speaker 3: rided off. Tell that's a lot of the stuff that
Speaker 3: I had happened around here. Now. I talked to different
Speaker 3: people around the area. I talked to a guy. He
Speaker 3: was at the park. I'm on the committee at the
Speaker 3: part recreation commit The guy was over there installing a
Speaker 3: gazebo this type of thing out of the blue. Said
Speaker 3: you believe in Bigfoot? And I wouldn't expecting this. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: said what what makes you believe in Bigfoot? We were
Speaker 3: at the Godell and we were picking up deer dogs
Speaker 3: late in evening. It was dark. There was something big
Speaker 3: and airy running on two legs across the bay from him.
Speaker 3: He was running through on the spall back. I wasn't
Speaker 3: expecting that. So one evening me and my wife decided
Speaker 3: to go over in that area and listen. We went
Speaker 3: over there late evening, I shouldn't say nice like late
Speaker 3: and eatings. It's getting dark pretty fast. So I falled
Speaker 3: into the area. I think they call it the Godell.
Speaker 3: It's like an island and it's splits comes back around
Speaker 3: together through little bayous and stuff. So we pulled in
Speaker 3: there and we just okay. We shut the motor off
Speaker 3: and me sitting there quiet, and I grabbed a battle
Speaker 3: and the stick I had in my boat, and I
Speaker 3: hear hard one time she starts saying what I said.
Speaker 3: What she said, something's walking towards the boat. She said,
Speaker 3: it sounds like it's bubbling. I said, bobble. So I
Speaker 3: started listening. I can hear it, but it would sounded
Speaker 3: like it was water dripping off of it. Now, during
Speaker 3: that time, there's a lot of high water and a
Speaker 3: lot of poald metas are in there, so anything that
Speaker 3: was inside was wet, you know, walking it walked to
Speaker 3: the back like we're facing out, facing up river, and
Speaker 3: she's in the back. It's walking like towards the back
Speaker 3: of the boat, towards her, and you can hear it.
Speaker 3: And then it turns in parallels is and you can
Speaker 3: hear it dripping off of it and just walking past this,
Speaker 3: and she got scared and we took off headed to
Speaker 3: the house. That's our event. My hunting leaves in Louisiana.
Speaker 3: Now I can't get away from them. So I joined
Speaker 3: the Saint Louis Hunting Club and in flack. I think
Speaker 3: the first year they all made fun of me. I
Speaker 3: share a big foot with everybody. I don't care they
Speaker 3: make fun, Go have your time. They'd go out there
Speaker 3: in the back of the camp scream like big foot
Speaker 3: and stuff, and I joined in with them and they laugh.
Speaker 3: So we have it fun. So the first year hunted,
Speaker 3: there was pretty much nothing going on. But the second year,
Speaker 3: I'm sitting they call it the Rickeys Road. I'm hunting
Speaker 3: that area, and I put me a stand in the woods.
Speaker 3: I was in there and I seen some deer, so
Speaker 3: I went over there and put me a lock on
Speaker 3: a tree stand. I was up there, it was late,
Speaker 3: it was dark, and I heard some knocks, but you
Speaker 3: gotta be careful over it because they got big plametas,
Speaker 3: they got big leaves, and a hate corn could fall
Speaker 3: out of the tree, and you got to be able
Speaker 3: to differentiate. But it wasn't alloud knocks. So I went out,
Speaker 3: got them up full wheeler, and I started driving out
Speaker 3: where they have the place they called the Elbow, which
Speaker 3: is a ninety druey turn on the road. They all
Speaker 3: call it Elbow. So I'm going over there and I
Speaker 3: see a rather and I just stop. I smell something.
Speaker 3: It smells like really bad human body over it when
Speaker 3: it's going in my direction. So that was the first occurrence.
Speaker 3: The second one was maybe a year later. I was
Speaker 3: hunting in my tree, standing well. I can hear like
Speaker 3: a buck off in the distance is running. I'm mimic
Speaker 3: him with my mouth. So I started replying to he
Speaker 3: started reply whatever. His starts coming in towards me on
Speaker 3: my left and I'm sitting looking this way. I'm going
Speaker 3: at this thing's coming out. So I got my rightle
Speaker 3: on my lap and I'm getting ready. I got to
Speaker 3: the edge and I was there to shut down, would
Speaker 3: not do nothing. Maybe he seeing me or whatever. Maybe
Speaker 3: it wasn't a gear. So I'm sitting there wait for this.
Speaker 3: I hear to my right in his thicket. I hear
Speaker 3: something trying to mimic me, but doing the same call,
Speaker 3: but with a greater power than what I could ever
Speaker 3: do with my mouth. And I'm going what. Then it
Speaker 3: does it again, but it's got a high pitch squeal
Speaker 3: in between the clicks. I'm going, that ain't no deer. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Right after that, I start hearing the branches break and
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about little shrugs. I'm talking about big
Speaker 3: branches breaking. I said, that ain't normal. I said, maybe
Speaker 3: they got a deer camp. Maybe I'm hearing them cleaning
Speaker 3: their lot. So I'll leave out there and I get
Speaker 3: back to the camp and i'll get that guy sworn over.
Speaker 3: I called him yesterd y'all, I've been clear of that
Speaker 3: lot over there, and it's probably maybe three or four
Speaker 3: hundred yards from it. Oh no, I said, so I
Speaker 3: heard y'all talking, but you always sound like you are
Speaker 3: breaking branches and stuff. He said, no, we were just
Speaker 3: cleaning the deer. He said, we weren't even cleaning up
Speaker 3: around the camp. I thought they might be cleaning up
Speaker 3: around and I asked him. They said, no, we weren't
Speaker 3: cleaning up round the cats. So I think they were
Speaker 3: right there. I'm going to tell you another story. Chase
Speaker 3: Landry Troy Landry son from Swamp People. When I tell
Speaker 3: you go around talking to people and asking him questions.
Speaker 3: I asked Troy Landry one time. He says, Chase, seeing something,
Speaker 3: you ought to talk to him. And I think that's
Speaker 3: how I got invited to be on the show. He
Speaker 3: gave me the stone number. I talked to him. For
Speaker 3: a good bet you an hour and a half, possibly
Speaker 3: two hours about what he's seen, like the cruise slides
Speaker 3: from where we hunt, maybe five miles at the most
Speaker 3: through the swamps, probably closer. But I talked to him
Speaker 3: on the phone and he told me everything that happened.
Speaker 3: So he also did an interview a year or so later.
Speaker 3: Everything matched, so I knew he wouldn't tell the no fields.
Speaker 3: Everything matched perfect like when I did I look discussion
Speaker 3: with it. He did an interviewer on the show. It
Speaker 3: was too for tat. So what happened with him? He
Speaker 3: was at the place called Horseshoe Buy You. I had
Speaker 3: a go now where in an earlier story about the
Speaker 3: guy that's seen Harry creature running while he's picking up
Speaker 3: his deer dogs within probably half a mile. He was
Speaker 3: over there frogging one night. I think he was coming back.
Speaker 3: He's seen two red eyes about three or four foot
Speaker 3: off the ground. So he went home. He told his
Speaker 3: dad he said, I seen two red eyes about three
Speaker 3: or four foot off the ground. He said there's probably
Speaker 3: a path because of the benlow on the ground, that
Speaker 3: we ought to put a camera out there. He goes
Speaker 3: back another night during his first incident. The guy's real sharp.
Speaker 3: He notices and takes things in and he says, when
Speaker 3: you shine on, you know, a light on the alligator,
Speaker 3: they usually like turn and they look at it. Watch
Speaker 3: you see their eyes. He said, this one never turned
Speaker 3: and he was looking in the direction of those eyes
Speaker 3: on that pith. He went back. Another time he was frogging,
Speaker 3: and he said he was coming back. He said, I
Speaker 3: do something different. It's nothing normal way of frogging, but
Speaker 3: some people do and I do it because he look
Speaker 3: back after I passed, And a lot of times I'll
Speaker 3: pick up a frog that I couldn't see when I
Speaker 3: was going. He did that, and when he did, he
Speaker 3: was like fifteen feet from this thing. It was a
Speaker 3: dog man. When he started describing it to me, I'm
Speaker 3: going what it looks like. It looked like a linebacker,
Speaker 3: he said, about seven feet tall. He said, was hugging
Speaker 3: the tree like he was down streamed for his approach,
Speaker 3: like it was hiding behind the tree. He said, he
Speaker 3: had his arm down on one side. He was hugging
Speaker 3: the tree. And it makes sense because when he flipped
Speaker 3: his lighter around, this thing was just high from probably
Speaker 3: didn't see that happened very often. Probably he would have
Speaker 3: made an adjustment for it. But he said when I
Speaker 3: slipped my light around, he was right there. I had
Speaker 3: my life on it. He said he had a small waist.
Speaker 3: He about seven foot tall. He had brought his shoulders
Speaker 3: and he said it scared me. Like I said, the
Speaker 3: story he told on his interview was pretty accurate. He
Speaker 3: went in a lot more detail when I just went
Speaker 3: through it, but it was a good story. Now I
Speaker 3: hunted not far from there with my grandson the box,
Speaker 3: and I still don't know what I've seen, but it
Speaker 3: was like we were looking for deer. They had some
Speaker 3: briar thickets and they had to opening between him and
Speaker 3: something black and flashed across there so fast. That's I
Speaker 3: should have heard footsteps. I hear nothing now. Could have
Speaker 3: been a path possibly, but it didn't get me that
Speaker 3: impression because the hair looked long, black and shiny. I
Speaker 3: think I covered most of what I've seen in Louisiana
Speaker 3: on the old man in his eighties named Russell. They
Speaker 3: catching catfish with nets because of the mayflies sitting on
Speaker 3: the water and a catfish coming up and feed, so
Speaker 3: they drifting down. Fis should buy you catching catfish where
Speaker 3: he looks with his light off to the left, and
Speaker 3: he had some six foot willows, young willow trees, and
Speaker 3: he sees this thing. I think he sees his head.
Speaker 3: Then he stands up like another six foot in the
Speaker 3: willows and jumps in to buy it, and swims underwater
Speaker 3: and comes up like fifteen twenty feet from his boat,
Speaker 3: and they look an eyeball to eyeball and they say
Speaker 3: Doug goes back underwater, crosses the fisher by, hits the
Speaker 3: back and it starts running through the woods. Then there
Speaker 3: was three people in the boat, which brings me to
Speaker 3: another story. In the same area, a friend of mine
Speaker 3: was they were going duck hunt it around the same time.
Speaker 3: It was in the same area. They were going to
Speaker 3: camp out and duck hut. They were got to camp
Speaker 3: on the levee and then I think they were till
Speaker 3: hunt and go till hunting in the morning. So they
Speaker 3: got all their gear together and they drove out there
Speaker 3: in their boat and it's probably like a twenty minute
Speaker 3: boat ride. They find the area they want to camp.
Speaker 3: They had a camp there, but they had all cleaned
Speaker 3: the boat. Said this is a good spot. Nobody's in
Speaker 3: the camp, but the glasses weren't broke out of the
Speaker 3: camp and the back door was pushed in it. So
Speaker 3: they going, hey, just don't even fitch are tent. Let's
Speaker 3: go sleep in the ca Nobody stay there, So they
Speaker 3: go ahead and they stay there.
Speaker 1: And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see we'll
Speaker 1: be right back. After these messages.
Speaker 3: That night, they all got a really bad uncomfortable feeling,
Speaker 3: all four of them. I think they were hearing some
Speaker 3: noises like around camp where they didn't sleep at all
Speaker 3: that night. I think they got it. The next morning
Speaker 3: they made their aunt and they decided to go. They
Speaker 3: didn't want to camp there, so he wanted to go
Speaker 3: I think the next weekend and him had. He tried
Speaker 3: to talk to the other three and two of them
Speaker 3: said they're definitely not going back. But one of them
Speaker 3: decided he'll go with them. So they go back. They
Speaker 3: go to the camp and they decide I think they
Speaker 3: pitched that tent in the out camp the first time.
Speaker 3: They decided, all let's talk pieces of tent, will put
Speaker 3: this vinyl flooring in that broken window and we'll stay
Speaker 3: in that room. And then he went to the back door.
Speaker 3: He said it took two of them to pick up
Speaker 3: the back door. They took it, and they took the
Speaker 3: back door and leaned it like it's falling out the
Speaker 3: camp against the wall. So they went to bed that night,
Speaker 3: he said. Then all of a sudden they were hearing
Speaker 3: runts or heavy walking and stuff. They couldn't see out
Speaker 3: what was going on. He said, something went by the door. Now,
Speaker 3: they said the camp was like four foot off the ground,
Speaker 3: so whatever hit the door like he did, probably was
Speaker 3: about eight foot tall, what he would think, but it
Speaker 3: hit the door and knocked the all way in the
Speaker 3: hall way down on the other side. Two minute to
Speaker 3: pick up, so he said, they waited around. They loaded
Speaker 3: their shotguns and they hollered out it all, we don't
Speaker 3: know where you are, but if you come in here,
Speaker 3: we're going to kill you. They finally got a nerved
Speaker 3: out of their lights and they went out of the
Speaker 3: front porch. They walked close to the by or something,
Speaker 3: and they felt, he said, the ground shook like somebody
Speaker 3: took a big chunce of a concrete and slammed it
Speaker 3: again against the ground. And he never could understand that
Speaker 3: he was taking the place was haughty. I told her
Speaker 3: what happened to me in West Virginia. Once they had
Speaker 3: a footstop. I said it shooped the ground and what
Speaker 3: it was he said, but they heard grunting and walking
Speaker 3: like byd pitle walk. And then he told me about
Speaker 3: the guy that old camp one in the group do
Speaker 3: to the guy, they found him dead in there with
Speaker 3: a heart attack. Now whatever gave him the art attack
Speaker 3: knocked the door into real Gwenda's nobody knows, but that's
Speaker 3: where they found a guy dead with a heart attack.
Speaker 1: I want to go back and talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about some of the experiences you had early on. This
Speaker 1: is completely subjective, obviously, but what is your opinion on
Speaker 1: two things that have stuck out to me doing this
Speaker 1: for so long and even my own experiences. The wood
Speaker 1: knocks and the tree structures are tree breaks? Do you
Speaker 1: think that these tree knocks are some sort of communication
Speaker 1: that's going on between these things? Do you think it's
Speaker 1: something that they do to maybe intimidate people like us
Speaker 1: that are in their area. And what do you make
Speaker 1: of the tree breaks? Do you think these things are
Speaker 1: doing these as some sort of a warning maybe for
Speaker 1: people entering their area, or do you think there's some
Speaker 1: sort of a marker. What is your opinion on the
Speaker 1: tree knocks and the tree breaks and what they're doing
Speaker 1: or what they mean in context.
Speaker 3: With these creatures. I don't have a clue. I've had
Speaker 3: seen exes down here, and I've seen x'es in West Virginia.
Speaker 3: I've seen bows tree bez asteris the one my wife
Speaker 3: found out on a property. We've seen some in the
Speaker 3: canals and bayous along the edge of the bayous that
Speaker 3: looked like they were beginnings of pasteris. We've seen x'es
Speaker 3: all over here. In fact, on the Troy's Landers show
Speaker 3: we used the X in the chill. It was a
Speaker 3: huge one. I don't know. In Troy you could talk
Speaker 3: about the show. What's that for? I don't know. Never
Speaker 3: sat down at the day Well. I talked to one
Speaker 3: and I've never seen him Bill want. I think it's
Speaker 3: some type of communication. Whether it's for us or whether
Speaker 3: it's for them, I don't know. But I know this,
Speaker 3: whenever we went and video or that took pictures of them,
Speaker 3: they'd come back down that one we did it on
Speaker 3: the show, they'd throw her down. Before we did our
Speaker 3: second shooting went out, there was down my friend took
Speaker 3: pictures and was in West Virginia. They came down and
Speaker 3: then they had been up there for a couple of
Speaker 3: years and all of a sudden he would take pictures
Speaker 3: and video and all that. They came down in the
Speaker 3: one over here on Troy's show, they did the same bank.
Speaker 3: We went out there to reshoot some things. It was gone.
Speaker 3: They had to use an old video from the first shoot.
Speaker 3: So is that coincidence? It communicates something. I don't know
Speaker 3: what it is. Treat breaks. To me, a treat break
Speaker 3: is like a demonstration of strength. Glad, dad, go break
Speaker 3: you a few shill You're not going to do it.
Speaker 3: Maybe they're they're showing us, look you mess with me
Speaker 3: a snippy little pencil knack.
Speaker 1: It's definitely more difficult than people would imagine. Because I
Speaker 1: went out. It was October of twenty twenty three. I
Speaker 1: was up in Canada. I went out on an expedition
Speaker 1: with Todd standing up in his area and radium there
Speaker 1: and I tried to break probably two two and a
Speaker 1: half inch sapling at a height of a little over
Speaker 1: six feet. I was able to do it, but it
Speaker 1: took a lot of pressure, way more pressure than I
Speaker 1: thought it was going to take because I thought I
Speaker 1: could just take this two inch sapling and just snap
Speaker 1: it easily. I'm a fairly strong guy. I don't work
Speaker 1: out every single day, but I've got a pretty good
Speaker 1: upper body strength, and it took me some doing to
Speaker 1: do that to break it at about six and a
Speaker 1: half feet. I'm about six foot two, so I was
Speaker 1: probably reaching up another six or eight inches to break
Speaker 1: this thing, and it wasn't easy to do. And I've
Speaker 1: never been able to really figure out outside of some
Speaker 1: sort of a marker or communication for them, it wouldn't
Speaker 1: make sense that they're doing it for us, because how
Speaker 1: would we interpret that, how would we know what they meant?
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think it's more of a
Speaker 1: communication with them. The rock clacking or the stick hitting
Speaker 1: another tree, whatever they're doing with these tree knocks, it
Speaker 1: seems to be some sort of communication with them. I
Speaker 1: think it's very interesting that you mentioned the turtles in
Speaker 1: the middle of the road. That's the first thing that
Speaker 1: I experienced here on our property in North Carolina that
Speaker 1: I think was related to these creatures was this weird
Speaker 1: box TURTLESHLL that was stuck into the side of a
Speaker 1: stump off to the right of a trail that we
Speaker 1: walked the dogs on every day, and that was really
Speaker 1: outside of the vocalizations that we heard. The first thing
Speaker 1: that I felt was maybe an interaction with these things,
Speaker 1: and I've heard that from other people. As soon as
Speaker 1: that happened to me, I started doing research and I'm like,
Speaker 1: is there a bigfoot activity that seems to be related
Speaker 1: to turtles. So many people came out of the woodwork saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: they've gifted us turtle shells on the stump that we
Speaker 1: leave apples and oranges and other things for these creatures.
Speaker 1: So that's a very interesting thing. One of the most
Speaker 1: aggressive encounters that I've ever documented came out of Louisiana.
Speaker 1: It was probably episode six or seven of the show,
Speaker 1: so it was back in probably twenty twenty one when
Speaker 1: I interviewed Tyler from Louisiana. They were out in an
Speaker 1: area and they had coon dogs. I believe it was
Speaker 1: that they were out hunting with and one of these
Speaker 1: creatures killed one of their dogs, basically stomped it to death.
Speaker 1: So that seems to be a theme that has ran
Speaker 1: through at least in the Southern United States Southeastern United States,
Speaker 1: where I've grown up and still live. Is these aggressive
Speaker 1: encounters with dogs? It's funny you mentioned the Obviously, it
Speaker 1: seems like Chase possibly had some sort of an encounter
Speaker 1: with a dog man and you guys heard what sounded
Speaker 1: like canines either chasing an animal or maybe trying to hunt.
Speaker 3: Down a deer. Here's the question for you.
Speaker 1: Have you heard of or seen other experiences from other
Speaker 1: people in that area that seemed to be more aggressive
Speaker 1: when it comes to dogs or even people that you've
Speaker 1: been able to document in talking to people and some
Speaker 1: of your research into this phenomenon in your area.
Speaker 3: No, I've been around deer hunters. Aren't with dogs a
Speaker 3: lot in hall hunters. They never mentioned the incident like
Speaker 3: that occurring. No, I can't say. I have now some
Speaker 3: stuff that happened in West Virginia to demonstrate how I
Speaker 3: think strong these things are. They had an old man
Speaker 3: that lived in a hollow Grant hears in the house
Speaker 3: up and that holler. But the only way you can
Speaker 3: get in there is you have to go through a
Speaker 3: gate that goes hundred trustle for train tracks, and he
Speaker 3: had horses back there. He went back there one day
Speaker 3: his horse was dead, so he loaded it up and
Speaker 3: he hauled to the back of it. It's like a
Speaker 3: little valley in that hallowed what they used to have
Speaker 3: the homes. He hauled all the way back to the end.
Speaker 3: An hour later it was gone. Now who's gonna carry
Speaker 3: off the big horse? And who's gonna carry it up
Speaker 3: them steep mountains they got up there. You can't only
Speaker 3: crawl up them mountains. Something got that horse out of there.
Speaker 3: And then there was another incident. My wife stopped, had
Speaker 3: the bowfish on, and we ran into two locals. One
Speaker 3: was on a side by side wall was on a
Speaker 3: foot whether and I was just boking fun. They had
Speaker 3: that side of their called big foot washir or something,
Speaker 3: and I just made fun. I said, y'all be careful
Speaker 3: that bigfoot up kidding. Oh, I don't believe in that.
Speaker 3: I said, why is that? He said, we just we
Speaker 3: have it. Sting one. I said, I've seen a dead
Speaker 3: deer over there at Spice Creek that was pushed up
Speaker 3: under the bushes. I couldn't find an aarow bullet hole
Speaker 3: or nothing in it. And my friend hurt some power
Speaker 3: down in there, and then I could see their wheels turned.
Speaker 3: I said it. Oh, I said, what he said, be
Speaker 3: in my part and we found a big bear dead.
Speaker 3: He said, we skinned it because it was a fresh kill.
Speaker 3: He said, it wasn't a bullet ole and mark or
Speaker 3: nothing on that big bear, and said it was huge.
Speaker 3: I said, well, y'all find that bear bottom of Spice Creek.
Speaker 3: I said, would that beaver dams? Yeah, that's where I
Speaker 3: found the dough What could kill a big bear? It's powerful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely don't believe in any kind of coincidence.
Speaker 1: That's one thing that I've said over the years when
Speaker 1: it comes to the totality of the circumstance when it
Speaker 1: comes to these creatures. If you're finding that in that area,
Speaker 1: they're finding a big bear that's been killed by something
Speaker 1: that doesn't seem natural. When you put all those things together,
Speaker 1: I think it points in one direction. And I think
Speaker 1: if you ignore that, you're doing yourself and everybody around
Speaker 1: you a disservice. Because I think these things are in
Speaker 1: more places than most people would think they are. It's
Speaker 1: definitely an interesting thing. It definitely keeps me coming back
Speaker 1: for more. And I think one of the things that
Speaker 1: I've learned from talking to so many people over the
Speaker 1: years is you look back in hindsight and you say
Speaker 1: things that seemed normal at the time, or things that
Speaker 1: you dismissed at the time. Do you find yourself looking
Speaker 1: back and thinking, man, that one time I heard this
Speaker 1: in the woods, could it have been.
Speaker 3: Related to a bigfoot? Possibly?
Speaker 1: I've done that for myself. Do you find yourself doing
Speaker 1: that looking back over the years of hunting and you
Speaker 1: think about things that happened that maybe you heard or
Speaker 1: smelled or even seen that you didn't consider that it
Speaker 1: was possible sasquatch activity at the time. Do you look
Speaker 1: back in retrospect and say, man, that might have been
Speaker 1: bigfoot related.
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, right there where I found a deer. My
Speaker 3: friend huntered below me, and it had a big screen.
Speaker 3: He was far enough away from me I didn't hear it,
Speaker 3: but he mentioned it to me. They had a tree
Speaker 3: stand that was tore out of the tree, you know,
Speaker 3: bin up on the ground. I don't think bears do that.
Speaker 3: They might jump up and down and knock it down.
Speaker 3: He said it was all bent up. But we used
Speaker 3: to talk. Just to what I used to hear. I'll
Speaker 3: hear rock clacks, you know what. I would write that
Speaker 3: off as squirrels cracking nuts and haycorns on the rocks,
Speaker 3: just stuff like that. I would think somebody was down
Speaker 3: at the bottom of that holler chopping wood. I know
Speaker 3: they got down there in way you'd go away down
Speaker 3: there to chop wood. I did that a couple of times.
Speaker 3: Will you here's the logically, try to think about what
Speaker 3: it is, make excuses, and not really question it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, I think it happens to all of us, Man, John.
Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough for coming on and sharing
Speaker 1: your experiences and the things that you've experienced over the years.
Speaker 1: I think it's been fantastic, man, and I love Southeastern
Speaker 1: United States encounters. That's literally why I started the show
Speaker 1: was to be able to talk to people like you
Speaker 1: in the Southern United States, where I've been born and raised.
Speaker 1: I think it's important to get those encounters out there
Speaker 1: because there's so many people that don't believe these things
Speaker 1: exist in Louisiana, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee. I think it's
Speaker 1: important to document these encounters because I think they are
Speaker 1: in places that people don't expect them to be. I
Speaker 1: can't thank you enough for coming on and sharing your experiences.
Speaker 1: I've had a blast talking to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Brian, I had a good time too.
Speaker 4: They say you don't gotta go home, but you can't
Speaker 4: stay and I don't want to feel a world open.
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Speaker 5: Ride back, joy for.
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