Speaker 1: With Dan Ray on Boston.
Speaker 2: All Right, well, tomorrow night, at this time, we will
Speaker 2: be in the midst of what might be the one
Speaker 2: and only presidential debate between the two nominees. We had
Speaker 2: presidential primary debates all last winter, from January February March,
Speaker 2: and they petered out in April. Once President Biden secured
Speaker 2: a sufficient number of nominees delegates, I said, say, to
Speaker 2: win the nomination. He had fourteen million votes and collected
Speaker 2: more than enough delegates to the convention. Of course, everything
Speaker 2: changed after his June debate with President Trump. President Trump
Speaker 2: outlasted some Republican rivals, the most notable of which was
Speaker 2: Nikki Haley.
Speaker 3: And we all.
Speaker 2: Know what has happened in the last few weeks, and
Speaker 2: that is that President Biden decided that he was not
Speaker 2: going to run, He was not going to accept the nomination,
Speaker 2: and he was. He has basically gone into retirement, as
Speaker 2: simple as that. And Kamala Harris I think everyone understands.
Speaker 2: So tomorrow night, the Trump campaign and the Harris campaign
Speaker 2: have agreed to one debate. Now they may agree to
Speaker 2: subsequent debates, but they've agreed to one single debate Tomorrow
Speaker 2: night on ABC. It will be held in Philadelphia, which
Speaker 2: of course is a very critical state, a battleground state.
Speaker 2: And the questions that I have for you tonight on this,
Speaker 2: because I'd like to talk about this for a couple
Speaker 2: of hours, is what do you expect tomorrow night. We've
Speaker 2: been told that the rules are going to be similar
Speaker 2: to June for those of you who have been not
Speaker 2: following this closely, that the mics will be muted when
Speaker 2: their time has elapsed. The two candidates time have elapsed.
Speaker 2: There's no studio audience. I do not believe there's an
Speaker 2: opening statement. There may be a closing statement. The debate
Speaker 2: starts at nine o'clock and it is expected to go.
Speaker 3: For ninety minutes.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that is a hard and fast
Speaker 2: number or if the moderators of the debate, who are
Speaker 2: two of the ABC News anchors, have an opportunity to
Speaker 2: extend the debate. But the thing that to me is
Speaker 2: most interesting is it is potentially the only time that
Speaker 2: we will see these two candidates on the same stage together.
Speaker 2: That it is conceivable that this could be the first
Speaker 2: and only debate of twenty twenty four final presidential debate,
Speaker 2: which I think is a disgrace in the past.
Speaker 3: In the past, a so called.
Speaker 2: Presidential Debate Commission, which had been agreed upon by the
Speaker 2: two major parties, would schedule three presidential debates and one
Speaker 2: vice presidential debate. That was the formula for years. It
Speaker 2: is not the formula this year. We're apparently making it
Speaker 2: up as we've gone along. Now you can argue that
Speaker 2: there was one debate in June between an incumbent Democratic
Speaker 2: president and his Republican challenger, but those are not the
Speaker 2: two names that will be on the ballot.
Speaker 3: For you to choose.
Speaker 2: So I just want to hear from you as to
Speaker 2: what do you expect tomorrow night. Who has the advantage
Speaker 2: going into the debate? Is the advantage going in to
Speaker 2: President Trump or to Vice President Harris. My suspicion is
Speaker 2: the candidate who we talked earlier time with John Keller
Speaker 2: of WBCTV that the candidate that has the most to
Speaker 2: win tomorrow night is the candidate who is least known
Speaker 2: to the American public, and that, of course is Vice
Speaker 2: President Harris. The candidate who has the most to lose
Speaker 2: tomorrow night, in my opinion, is former President Trump. Now,
Speaker 2: you may agree or you may disagree. I'd love to
Speaker 2: hear what you think. But my thought is that if
Speaker 2: President Trump has the discipline that he displayed when he
Speaker 2: debated Joe Biden in June, he will probably have a
Speaker 2: pretty good night. If he does not display that discipline,
Speaker 2: and if he engages in any sort of a personal
Speaker 2: attack on Vice President Harris, that will not serve him well.
Speaker 2: My suspicion is that both of these candidates will be
Speaker 2: cautioned by their handlers, by their staff to follow a
Speaker 2: certain line of behavior. They will all be, I think,
Speaker 2: in a position to respond to whatever questions are asked.
Speaker 2: I can tell you this that surprisingly late last week,
Speaker 2: there was on CNN in Upfront with Aaron Burnett a
Speaker 2: very interesting story which we might get into, in which
Speaker 2: CNN accused the Harris campaign of hypocrisy for her switch
Speaker 2: on the border wall, in her use of the Trump
Speaker 2: boarder wall, which she had very openly in sisphrally vociferously, vociferously,
Speaker 2: Dan condemned uh and she used pictures of Trump's wall
Speaker 2: in her campaign commercials. And then there was this comment
Speaker 2: from Bernie Sanders yesterday. He was on Animus NBC and
Speaker 2: he was asked about Vice President Harris changing some of
Speaker 2: her positions or abandoning her progressive ideals. This is cut
Speaker 2: number five, Rob please play this.
Speaker 3: This is Bernie.
Speaker 4: Secrime Vice President Kamala Harris as a progressive. She has
Speaker 4: previously supported medicare for all, now she does not. She's
Speaker 4: previously supported a ban on fracking, now she does not. These, Senator,
Speaker 4: are ideas that you have campaigned on. Do you think
Speaker 4: that she is abandoning her progressive ideals?
Speaker 5: No, I don't think she's abandoning her ideals. I think
Speaker 5: she's trying to be pragmatic and doing what she thinks
Speaker 5: is right in order to win the election.
Speaker 3: My own view is slightly different.
Speaker 5: I think that in America today, there are a lot
Speaker 5: of people, rural people, working class people who no longer
Speaker 5: believe that the United States Congress and government represents their interests.
Speaker 5: They're dominated by big money interests.
Speaker 2: Well, that certainly unresponsive to the question, But what is
Speaker 2: critical is that she's trying to be pragmatic to win
Speaker 2: the election. You can interpret that by saying she basically
Speaker 2: is being disingenuous with the American people by changing positions
Speaker 2: that she endorsed and embraced for years and now realizes
Speaker 2: that she has to go to the center. So there's
Speaker 2: a lot of questions here. Donald Trump is not going
Speaker 2: to trim his sales. He's going to take positions and
Speaker 2: hold those positions. He will try to explain his position,
Speaker 2: certainly on abortion. That'll be a subject tomorrow night that
Speaker 2: is going to come up. So with all of that said,
Speaker 2: I just want to open up the phone lines, give
Speaker 2: everybody a chance to join the conversation. What do you
Speaker 2: expect tomorrow night for whom is there greater danger tomorrow night,
Speaker 2: President Trump or Vice President Harris? And who has the
Speaker 2: most to gain tomorrow night in your opinion? There have
Speaker 2: been some recent polls which seem to suggest that the bump,
Speaker 2: the increase in the polls that Vice President Harris enjoyed
Speaker 2: after a very successful Democratic Convention have now receded, and
Speaker 2: that maybe that that.
Speaker 3: That wave has has ebbed.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I still think it's going to be
Speaker 2: a close election. Here are the numbers six, one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four to ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one,
Speaker 2: ten thirty.
Speaker 3: Your point of view and if you really.
Speaker 2: Are an independent undecided, if you're there are a lot
Speaker 2: of independent photosignes. But if you truly undecided. I would
Speaker 2: love to talk to you tonight and have you tell
Speaker 2: me what you hope to see tomorrow night. The only
Speaker 2: two lines open right now are six one, seven, nine,
Speaker 2: three one, ten thirty Back with Kevin, Mark and Steve
Speaker 2: and hopefully you on Night Side. This is a Monday night.
Speaker 2: I am back after a week's vacation.
Speaker 3: I want to remind.
Speaker 2: You I like to hear from phone callers. I really
Speaker 2: enjoy hearing from new phone callers and from our traditional
Speaker 2: night side phone callers. Because you this program is to
Speaker 2: give you an opportunity to speak to the nation. I
Speaker 2: was talking this morning with a friend of mine who
Speaker 2: might be listening now.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: He's a professor of journalism, used to write for Sports Illustrated.
Speaker 2: I'll just use his first name in case he's in
Speaker 2: a car. I know he's driving to Pennsylvania, Professor Brooks.
Speaker 2: If you're listening, I hope you found ten thirty on
Speaker 2: your AM dial back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, we're talking about the big debate tomorrow night.
Speaker 2: Around this time tomorrow night, they'll be wrapping it up.
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting whether or not it's a knockout. If
Speaker 2: you think of it in terms of a boxing event,
Speaker 2: it's conceivable it could go fifteen rounds and be a
Speaker 2: split decision.
Speaker 3: We'll see.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Kevin up in Lowell. Kevin, your first
Speaker 2: up this hour at nights. I appreciate your patients.
Speaker 6: Go right ahead, Hey, goodies, and again I just want
Speaker 6: to touch on a couple of points, and I figured
Speaker 6: i'd let you respond to what you want first. I
Speaker 6: think what's gonna happen is and I'm gona end up
Speaker 6: turning off my TV being very disappointed. I just don't
Speaker 6: hear these officials talking about what they're gonna do. It's
Speaker 6: usually a blame game. And another thing that kind of
Speaker 6: Beho's me is this whole election process is essentially a
Speaker 6: popularity contest. Who's more believable, who's more likable? I would
Speaker 6: like to see the whole process change. I'd like to
Speaker 6: see comprehensive testing, like do you know about the economy,
Speaker 6: do you know about history? Do you know about foreign relations?
Speaker 7: Like you know?
Speaker 6: Even how they picked their cabinet?
Speaker 3: Like I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's that's one of the things that I think a
Speaker 2: debate should should show. In other words, there have been
Speaker 2: cases where presidential candidates have made mistakes in debates. Gerald
Speaker 2: Ford debating Jimmy Carter, suggested that the people of Poland,
Speaker 2: who at that point were behind the Iron Curtain, and
Speaker 2: gerald Ford knew that he made a comment that he
Speaker 2: didn't think that people would agree that Russia was controlling
Speaker 2: their lives, or he made some sort of a comment
Speaker 2: about that, and that was very harmful. He was a
Speaker 2: president of the United States. It's almost sometimes the way
Speaker 2: they phrased the question. Let me ask you this, Kevin,
Speaker 2: have you decided who you go to vote for? Are
Speaker 2: you truly at this point undecided?
Speaker 6: I decided who I'm going to vote for. I mean,
Speaker 6: I feel like I'm targeted as soon as I say Trump.
Speaker 6: I mean, I didn't vote for Trump. During the Hillary
Speaker 6: Clinton or Trump election in twenty sixteen, I actually slipt
Speaker 6: under a desk at Children's Hospital because I had to
Speaker 6: work late. I would actually voted for Hillary, okay, and
Speaker 6: then during the Biden and minute the Biden Trump, I
Speaker 6: voted for Trump because I liked what I saw the best.
Speaker 6: The most successful time in my life was under Trump. Now.
Speaker 6: I don't know if you caught the more heally faced
Speaker 6: Nation interview, but that's kind of just what drove me
Speaker 6: over the edge, because you know, it's just the lies,
Speaker 6: the blatant lies that they tell on TV to the people,
Speaker 6: and they somehow get away with it, you know, for
Speaker 6: her to sit there and say that Trump, she said,
Speaker 6: like a few months ago, there was a Biprisonan bill
Speaker 6: to fix the border crisis and Trump killed it.
Speaker 8: Excuse me.
Speaker 6: Trump hasn't been the president in four years. And that's
Speaker 6: another thing I'd like to see during the debate instead
Speaker 6: of like what personalized attacks like oh you didn't do this,
Speaker 6: be like like for Trump, for example, we could say like, oh,
Speaker 6: well you say you fix the water or like I
Speaker 6: ruined that like within hours of you becoming president. Joe
Speaker 6: Biden reverse the border funded, you know, like concrete like
Speaker 6: this is what we did. You say this, but we
Speaker 6: actually did this. I think that would help Trump. I
Speaker 6: think since the microphone is going to be needed, I
Speaker 6: think what we're going to see is the Kamala Harris
Speaker 6: campaign trying to vote him into saying something negative because
Speaker 6: now he can't just over a talker. So she's going
Speaker 6: to say something started. So I think that's what we're
Speaker 6: gonna see. We're going to try to see them provoke
Speaker 6: a natty response out of him.
Speaker 2: I will tell you this, Kevin, you're an extraordinarily informed voter.
Speaker 2: You and I mean that seriously. You have proven to
Speaker 2: me that you know what's going on. I wasn't sure
Speaker 2: which way you were going. Obviously, I know now probably
Speaker 2: you're going to vote for Trump. When in terms of
Speaker 2: what mar Heally said, she apparently would be under consideration
Speaker 2: to become the Attorney General of the United States.
Speaker 9: Exactly, that Face the Nation interview was a job interview,
Speaker 9: and she did not answer any of the questions that
Speaker 9: Nancy Astra not one, you know, and that's what I
Speaker 9: want to I wanted to know where my tax dollar
Speaker 9: is going seventy five million dollars.
Speaker 2: You know, well, I saw you tonight that that that
Speaker 2: talked about the amount of money that that Massachusetts is
Speaker 2: now spending on people who have come here illegally.
Speaker 6: Come to my state. Will help you the sudden it's
Speaker 6: filled to act on the border congest, do you know
Speaker 6: what I mean? I think the American people are waking
Speaker 6: up and we're realizing that we're just being liked by
Speaker 6: both parties.
Speaker 7: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this question if I can amongst
Speaker 2: your your circle of friends, where are your circle of
Speaker 2: friends moving?
Speaker 3: Is there? Uh? You know?
Speaker 2: Do you only associate with people who you tend to
Speaker 2: agree with politically or do you have do you sense
Speaker 2: that there's movement within your circle of friends in one
Speaker 2: direction or the other.
Speaker 6: Actually, my circle of friends have just drifted away from
Speaker 6: politics all together. They feel defeated, They feel like they
Speaker 6: can't things, and I tell them that's why things don't change.
Speaker 6: Because people just want to live their life. They want
Speaker 6: to work their job, have the biggest house they can.
Speaker 6: They want to have the most amount of friends on Facebook,
Speaker 6: but they don't want to do the hard work.
Speaker 3: You know, don't tell me you you're extraordinary. Is this
Speaker 3: your first time calling my show?
Speaker 6: No, I've told you before. Usually I talk with Dan
Speaker 6: Ray late at night because I worked late night overnight spot.
Speaker 6: I like to catch you sometimes on my way into work.
Speaker 6: I'll call again, though.
Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Of course you are talking to Dan Ray even though
Speaker 2: it's not the eleven o'clock hour.
Speaker 6: Bradley J. Bradley J. That's why I normally talk to
Speaker 6: Bradley Jae.
Speaker 2: Okay, well he's no longer on the air, so you
Speaker 2: won't be able to talk to him about the overnight
Speaker 2: We're now we're news after midnight. I want you to
Speaker 2: become a much more regular caller here on my show
Speaker 2: because you are a well informed caller and you made
Speaker 2: your case extremely well.
Speaker 3: I thank you so much for your call.
Speaker 6: Well shot again, Thank you, Dan, thank.
Speaker 2: You, Kevin, Dan, Ray, Bradley j whatever, and I kind
Speaker 2: of all sounds the same. Let me go next to
Speaker 2: Mark and Dry New Hampshire, Mark next on nights, I
Speaker 2: go right ahead.
Speaker 7: Gee for a very well informed caller.
Speaker 10: He didn't even know what he was talking to.
Speaker 11: What do you know about that?
Speaker 10: Dan? Jesus?
Speaker 2: I thought he was pretty well informed on the on
Speaker 2: the issue of of how I got to whatever whatever
Speaker 2: point he got to go right ahead?
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah whatever? So, uh, this is the point I
Speaker 10: need to make, okay about this debate tomorrow night. What
Speaker 10: Donald has to do is pound this communist over the
Speaker 10: head with her.
Speaker 6: What what do you mean? Come on, why do you.
Speaker 7: Have to what do you mean?
Speaker 10: Come on?
Speaker 3: What do you have to have to go?
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this mark, Why do you have
Speaker 2: to go and and start with calling her a communist?
Speaker 2: She's the devil because.
Speaker 10: She is a communist. She's a marvelist comedy.
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest with you. I'm not letting it
Speaker 2: in anymore.
Speaker 3: I really am not.
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes you just go over the top, and
Speaker 2: tonight you've gone over the top. I appreciate you calling,
Speaker 2: but if you start calling people everybody a communist, then
Speaker 2: other people are gonna call Trump this or whatever. I'm
Speaker 2: tired of the name calling from all the candidates. To
Speaker 2: be really honest with you, okay, I think we got
Speaker 2: to bring some civility back into this conversation, and I
Speaker 2: don't think you brought much civility in tonight. So I
Speaker 2: appreciate your call, and we'll hear from you again, I
Speaker 2: would hope in a most civil fashion. Six one seven, two,
Speaker 2: five four to ten thirty six one seven, nine, three
Speaker 2: one ten thirty. Those lines are full. So if you
Speaker 2: want to get in six one, seven, two, five, four
Speaker 2: to ten thirty, gotta take a break at the bottom
Speaker 2: of the hour. What purpose is served by trying to
Speaker 2: label somebody a communist. She's not a communist, she's not
Speaker 2: a communist. You know, it's as simple as that. You
Speaker 2: want to go see a communist, go to Russia. Okay,
Speaker 2: go to Russia, uh and you see Poot. You'll see
Speaker 2: the communist there. You want to see a communist, You
Speaker 2: want to see a real communist. Go to Venezuela. You
Speaker 2: see Madero who basically loses an election and now wants
Speaker 2: to jail his opponent, and the opponent has gone into
Speaker 2: exile in Spain. This, you know, it's the hyperbole over
Speaker 2: the top is insane. Right now, back on Nightside after.
Speaker 1: This, You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's
Speaker 1: news radio.
Speaker 2: Okay, back to the phones ago Stephen Bridgewater, Steve, what
Speaker 2: are you looking for? What do you expect tomorrow night
Speaker 2: during the debate between President Trump and Vice Fulham President
Speaker 2: Trump and Vice President Harris.
Speaker 7: All right, Dan, this is my answer. I know when
Speaker 7: you started off introducing this part of the program, you
Speaker 7: said you think that Trump has more more to lose
Speaker 7: than Kamala Harris. I think that's what you're at the beginning. Okay,
Speaker 7: I don't I got to tell you Dan that in
Speaker 7: that way, I don't agree. No, I think Kamala Harris
Speaker 7: is the one that has a lot more to prove
Speaker 7: because all the Trump voters, they've already decided they're going
Speaker 7: to vote for Trump. I don't think anybody's questioning him,
Speaker 7: but her. She still has to make the case. There's
Speaker 7: a lot of people out there that don't know, even
Speaker 7: after being vice president for three and a half years,
Speaker 7: that don't know what she stands for. So I think
Speaker 7: she's the one with that at the end of the night,
Speaker 7: it's more important for her to really change people's minds
Speaker 7: or let people know what she stands for, right.
Speaker 2: And I think that's I think that's let me just
Speaker 2: say this, I happened, I happen to agree with your observation,
Speaker 2: But I think, but I think maybe I would rephrase
Speaker 2: my position. Trump could lose the election if, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: he were to go after her uh as as a woman,
Speaker 2: or go after her in any way which was undisciplined. Yes, Okay,
Speaker 2: I got. The reason I say is I think that
Speaker 2: I think that Harris. Harris will know what she wants
Speaker 2: to do and how she wants to do it. Her
Speaker 2: problem is can she satisfy people who are gonna say, hey.
Speaker 3: How come you believe now this? When a few years
Speaker 3: ago you said.
Speaker 7: This, yeah, exactly exactly normally that I think Trumpy's got
Speaker 7: to make the differentiate, the differentiation over ninety minutes of Oak.
Speaker 8: You know what I.
Speaker 7: Did, And now you know what you got over almost
Speaker 7: the past four years with Biden. Well, guess what you're
Speaker 7: gonna get with with Harris. He's even more to the
Speaker 7: left than Biden. And even what's his name, Bernie Sanders,
Speaker 7: You're gonna get even worse than what you got over
Speaker 7: the past four years with Biden. Higher grocery prisures, how you.
Speaker 6: Got saloone prices, even more young people not.
Speaker 7: Being able to afford their first homes. That is going
Speaker 7: to get even more bleak if she becomes president. If
Speaker 7: she can get that idea across to walk right back
Speaker 7: into the White House.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know either one of them are going
Speaker 2: to walk in because I don't think this is going
Speaker 2: to be a landslide election. I think that we as
Speaker 2: a country are a sharply divided country. What percentage of
Speaker 2: people do you think are going to tune in the
Speaker 2: debate tomorrow night and who could actually change their minds?
Speaker 2: I suspect that there are very few Trump voters who
Speaker 2: would ever abandon Donald Trump. I agree with you on that,
Speaker 2: and I think that that there are very few Harris
Speaker 2: voters who would abandon Harris. But what percentage do you
Speaker 2: think of the people who be watching the debate tomorrow
Speaker 2: or what percentage of the American electorate do you think
Speaker 2: are truly undecided and haven't figured it out already? I
Speaker 2: suspect that's a pretty small number.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, but you know it doesn't take many undecided
Speaker 7: to make the difference. You don't damn what skin me?
Speaker 7: What I watched last night on thought and it concerns me.
Speaker 7: There are only three or four a small handful of
Speaker 7: battles ground states. What Pennsylvania, Georgia and North Carolina?
Speaker 10: Is it?
Speaker 7: I think they're going to determine the whole Pitcher. That
Speaker 7: scares me that those states are going to determine the
Speaker 7: whole all.
Speaker 2: Come, well, there are seven battleground states, you know, not
Speaker 2: only Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Georgia, but you have to
Speaker 2: throw Arizona, Nevada, Yeah, Wisconsin, and Michigan in there because
Speaker 2: traditionally they have been very close states. Massachusetts is not
Speaker 2: a battleground state. Oklahoma is not a battleground state. No
Speaker 2: matter how much the Democrats would love to think that
Speaker 2: Texas is within reach, that's not a battleground state. You know,
Speaker 2: a few years ago, Florida was kind of a coin toss.
Speaker 2: It's not a coin toss anymore.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 2: No, right now they both probably have pretty secure a
Speaker 2: couple one hundred electoral votes each. I don't think it's
Speaker 2: going to be a big you know, Donald Trump won
Speaker 2: and he had three hundred and six, and I think
Speaker 2: Joe Biden also ended up with three hundred and six.
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be closer. It's going to
Speaker 2: be two eighty five to ninety something like that.
Speaker 7: I wish it would be a blowout for Trump like
Speaker 7: it was when Reagan ran in nineteen eighty against Carter.
Speaker 7: I love that Dan effect what happened, But I think, well, the.
Speaker 2: Real blowout for Reagan was when he ran against Mondale,
Speaker 2: when he carried every state except for Mondale's home state
Speaker 2: of Minnesota, UH and the district of Columbia.
Speaker 3: Wait.
Speaker 7: Dan, he carried Massachusetts two, yes he did.
Speaker 3: Oh my carriage. He carried Massachusetts twice.
Speaker 2: Reagan carried Massachusetts in nineteen eighty and nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 2: Now in nineteen eighty he had the benefit of John Anderson,
Speaker 2: a Republican Congressman from Illinois, being on the ballot, so
Speaker 2: they were probably votes that would have gone to Carter
Speaker 2: if the Anderson was development. That's little old secret that
Speaker 2: in that in deep that in deep blue Massachusetts, Ronald
Speaker 2: Reagan won twice.
Speaker 3: Little know that's true.
Speaker 2: Hey, Steve, guys, always I appreciate you. I appreciate you
Speaker 2: calls it was, It's always fun to talk with you.
Speaker 2: Appreciate your time.
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Dan.
Speaker 7: Likewise, likewise, I got you all right.
Speaker 2: So I got wide open lines now at six one, seven, two, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty. But in the meantime, let's go and talk
Speaker 2: with Sandra in Boston. Hey, Sandra, welcome back. How are
Speaker 2: you tonight?
Speaker 12: I'm well. I hope you have a good vacation.
Speaker 2: I had a really nice vacation. Did didn't go go anywhere,
Speaker 2: kind of hung around.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 2: But the reason that was I was very happy to
Speaker 2: do that. I have been in Italy with nightside listeners
Speaker 2: back in early August, and it was nice just to
Speaker 2: kind of hang around. Found a couple of new restaurants
Speaker 2: that I liked, and I'm.
Speaker 3: It was it was fun.
Speaker 8: It was fun, So tell us some good weather.
Speaker 3: Great weather, great weather. We're going to great weather for
Speaker 3: the rest of this week too.
Speaker 2: It was beautiful day to day and they're saying that
Speaker 2: tomorrow the weather's going to be just as nice. And
Speaker 2: I was watching the weather forecast tonight. Looks like it's
Speaker 2: going to be great for the rest of the week.
Speaker 2: So what's your weather forecast tomorrow? On Trump and Harris,
Speaker 2: what do you think is going to happen? Stormy or.
Speaker 12: I'm hoping that Trump can convert some people who may
Speaker 12: think that the other side is environmentally correct. And I
Speaker 12: actually think that Trump is sort of a hidden environmentalist
Speaker 12: on some level. And part of that thinking is that
Speaker 12: one of the worst environmental programs in the world is war,
Speaker 12: and if we don't start wars, that's a good environmental program.
Speaker 12: And I think he did well with that. And then
Speaker 12: he also doesn't like offshore wind, and I do test
Speaker 12: offshore wind, and I think off the coast of New England,
Speaker 12: it's a very bad idea because of the electromagnetic pulses
Speaker 12: that could disrupt the delicate choreography of invertebrates and squid
Speaker 12: and what eats them, and what we eat. I think
Speaker 12: it is from the fisheries and.
Speaker 3: Also those those those offshore wind.
Speaker 2: Machines which have had some of their blades fly off
Speaker 2: into the ocean.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Sure, eating fiberglass, Yeah, exactly a good thing. And we're
Speaker 12: so identified with fishing in New England and it's it's
Speaker 12: really one of the most beautiful parts of New England.
Speaker 12: So I'm hoping he can speak to that when the
Speaker 12: environmental issues come off, which they will.
Speaker 2: Well. The other thing too is I think there's a
Speaker 2: growing understanding that nuclear energy is probably the cleanest form
Speaker 2: of energy that we have.
Speaker 3: I remember they have.
Speaker 12: They have some new small reactors that they're making that
Speaker 12: are a lot more compatible with, you know, the general
Speaker 12: philosophies of people in the environmental movement, So that might change.
Speaker 12: He talks about rebranding the nuclear industry, and I think
Speaker 12: there's something to that a lot of countries.
Speaker 13: Let me just finish this one comment if I could.
Speaker 13: You've interrupted me a couple of times. Let me just
Speaker 13: finish this, okay. I think that nuclear energy has proven
Speaker 13: to be very successful in a lot of countries around
Speaker 13: the world. I remember when Three Mile Island occurred in
Speaker 13: the late nineteen seventies and they were trying to build up.
Speaker 2: They had all sorts of protests and Seberg. I think
Speaker 2: that many environmentalists have changed their viewpoint nuclear energy, and
Speaker 2: I think that supports what you're saying. Actually is trying
Speaker 2: to support what you're saying.
Speaker 3: Go right ahead.
Speaker 12: So I hope there's an intelligent discussion on those issues.
Speaker 12: And then the second thing that I'm very concerned about,
Speaker 12: and I think, I guess this is the media what
Speaker 12: I would call media afterburn. I mean, I have been
Speaker 12: rather disappointed in the media, not you, but other people in.
Speaker 3: The disappointed with me. That's fine.
Speaker 2: I like sometimes criticism because frankly that you never hesitate
Speaker 2: to criticize me to my face.
Speaker 3: You go right ahead, dumb problem.
Speaker 2: But I like the fact that you seem not to
Speaker 2: be wanting to criticize me as well.
Speaker 3: So go ahead.
Speaker 10: Well.
Speaker 12: The biggest problem right now, I think is our foreign policy.
Speaker 12: It's just horrendous. And when you look at the person
Speaker 12: who's running it, Anthony Blinkn, the Secretary of State, and
Speaker 12: you know that he's the person who works I frustrated
Speaker 12: the letter that the fifty one CIA folks wrote that
Speaker 12: had such an impact on the last election. You have
Speaker 12: to ask the question, why hasn't the media called for
Speaker 12: more examination of his participation as secretary of State? And
Speaker 12: we know that with Biden not being while being somewhat
Speaker 12: pognitively challenged, he has probably played a larger role in
Speaker 12: foreign policy than any secretary of State. Ever, I don't
Speaker 12: hear anybody questioning that he should be there when he
Speaker 12: is so ethically challenged.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think he made some interesting points. I enjoyed
Speaker 2: the conversation. Thank you so Andrew, have.
Speaker 3: A great night.
Speaker 12: Okay, you too, Thanks Dan.
Speaker 3: Rob.
Speaker 2: Make sure that these listeners are able to hear me well,
Speaker 2: because I just kind of tough. I was trying to,
Speaker 2: as they say, get a word in edgewise there. Wanted
Speaker 2: to support some of the things that she said. She's right,
Speaker 2: Blincoln was one of the individuals who who orchestrated that
Speaker 2: those fifty one so called CIA and intelligence experts who
Speaker 2: said that it looked like Russian disinformation talking about the
Speaker 2: Hunter Biden laptop, et cetera. We now know they were
Speaker 2: not correct on that. We'll take a break six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four to ten thirty. A couple lines there and one
Speaker 2: in six one seven nine three one, ten thirty. Come
Speaker 2: right back on Night Side.
Speaker 1: Now bent to Dan Ray live from the window World,
Speaker 1: Nice Side Studios. I' WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3: All right, let's keep going.
Speaker 2: They're going to go to Marty in Saint Augustine, Florida.
Speaker 2: Love Saint Augustine, Florida, one of the great communities down south.
Speaker 2: Let me get this thing going here, Rob, pick them
Speaker 2: up for me. Please, having trouble with my mouse here, Rob,
Speaker 2: give me Marty from Saint Augustine.
Speaker 3: Please, thank you. Marty, welcome. How are you?
Speaker 2: For some reason it got a little bit difficult problem
Speaker 2: with my mouse, which never seem to have except occasionally.
Speaker 2: Go right ahead, Marty, what's your take on tomorrow? What
Speaker 2: are you looking forward to hearing?
Speaker 8: Okay, first of all, let me say this. Kamala Kamala
Speaker 8: harris Is.
Speaker 2: I think it's Kamala. I think they pronounce I.
Speaker 8: Don't care, but Kamala whatever it is, she's occupying the
Speaker 8: position that she wasn't elected. She basically was part of
Speaker 8: a coup that they took advantage of a senile man.
Speaker 8: And now she's the heir of parent and she's going
Speaker 8: to be having a so called debate against the guy
Speaker 8: who was president or right away. Your previous call was
Speaker 8: very good. She was on the money, she was very sensible. Okay,
Speaker 8: just having a.
Speaker 3: Tough time having a conversation with him, Marty. That was
Speaker 3: all a little frustrated.
Speaker 8: Anyway, So Kamala Harris is going to be she has
Speaker 8: noca how.
Speaker 2: A butt if we agree on how about if we
Speaker 2: agree just on vice President Harris because some people think
Speaker 2: that that pronouncing someone's name incorrectly is almost insulting.
Speaker 3: But whatever you like to do, you know what.
Speaker 8: And those people they got to get the chip off
Speaker 8: his shoulder, all right, go ahead, okay. Anyway, anyway, she
Speaker 8: has no accomplishments and no achievements. She's a lawyer. She
Speaker 8: talked about Okay, let me say this to you. They
Speaker 8: always referred they like to refer to Donald Trump as
Speaker 8: a felon. Well, let me tell you something. And I
Speaker 8: may have mentioned this before. Martha Stewart took a felony
Speaker 8: wrap for insider trading, which didn't really hurt anybody. It
Speaker 8: was an unethical or whatever. Now she's back on TV.
Speaker 8: She's a multi billionaire. I couldn't afford to live next
Speaker 8: to her. You couldn't afford to live next to her,
Speaker 8: So they got to stop smearing somebody and saying that
Speaker 8: he's also well, he.
Speaker 3: Is a felon.
Speaker 2: At this point, he's convicted of I think it's thirty
Speaker 2: four felonies. I might not agree with the prosecution, Marty,
Speaker 2: but from a factual point of view, it's like saying
Speaker 2: somebody is a right or lefty.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know how you get it.
Speaker 2: We might you might disagree with the prosecution, but what
Speaker 2: did the jury come back with.
Speaker 8: My next door neighbor is a convicted felon.
Speaker 10: He was a.
Speaker 8: Skinhead in California, and I told him, Son, he's about
Speaker 8: fifty five. You're a felon, You're not a crook. I
Speaker 8: know a guy in New York who's being mentored by
Speaker 8: a fellow used to be on my job together.
Speaker 2: Is Hunter Biden a convicted felon?
Speaker 3: Marty?
Speaker 8: Is he a convicted felon? He's convicted, but he's also
Speaker 8: into dope. And I don't remember Donald Trump. Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're just Marty. We're going off the rails here. Please,
Speaker 2: I'm being patient with you.
Speaker 8: Listen, let me just finish. I'm going to watch tomorrow
Speaker 8: because I'm not into football politics is my football. I
Speaker 8: want to see what tricks she can pull out.
Speaker 7: Of the top pack.
Speaker 3: And well, we'll see. We'll see how.
Speaker 8: She's going to best and maybe she might not even
Speaker 8: show up. Whatever.
Speaker 2: I take it to the bank, Marty, She's going to
Speaker 2: be there, Okay, trust.
Speaker 8: Me, Okay, all right, Well let's see what happens.
Speaker 2: And there were people who are a week ago in
Speaker 2: this or not a week ago, people who are a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago were trying to convince me that
Speaker 2: Donald Trump wouldn't show up. They were wrong too. They
Speaker 2: will both be there. Take that one today.
Speaker 8: She's not gonna show up. I said, it's a possibility
Speaker 8: because she has nothing to go by basically except name calling.
Speaker 8: She has no achievements, Steve, has no accomplishment, She hasn't
Speaker 8: pushed forward any any legislation as a vice president. So
Speaker 8: what can she say? She what can she hang her
Speaker 8: hat on?
Speaker 3: Well we'll find out tomorrow. Night, Marty.
Speaker 2: Appreciate the call as always, Thank you much, appreciate you
Speaker 2: have a good night.
Speaker 3: You two, Good night. Rob again. You gotta take that down.
Speaker 3: Let me go to Laurie in Idaho. Laurie, thank you
Speaker 3: for calling. How are you tonight.
Speaker 2: Look at a tough crowd. I thought they'd give me
Speaker 2: a break.
Speaker 3: I'm just back crowds.
Speaker 11: They're all chomping. It's a bit it's been two long
Speaker 11: so anyway, welcome back. And I you know, I don't.
Speaker 11: I didn't have a ton of expectations about this thing
Speaker 11: coming up. I don't. I mean, first of all, the
Speaker 11: both of them keyed off crowds, so having no audience
Speaker 11: and a couple of moderators. And if he speaks you know, policy, great,
Speaker 11: if she speaks policy, I don't know what I believe.
Speaker 11: So he can control himself and not do any you know,
Speaker 11: borish stuff. I think he'll do okay. But I think
Speaker 11: it's not gonna I don't think it's gonna bump anything
Speaker 11: one or the other hugely. I don't. But John Keller
Speaker 11: earlier had a really good point about are they gonna
Speaker 11: look at they come in with some pre prepared line
Speaker 11: or something to create a buzzy you know, SoundBite that
Speaker 11: they can use and you know as and whatever for
Speaker 11: the rest of the campaign. That's that I think was
Speaker 11: a very intelligent thought.
Speaker 2: So they might do. I mean, you know, remember when
Speaker 2: when when Trump uh when former president Trump debated President Biden,
Speaker 2: and Biden gave that kind of long, nonsensical answer.
Speaker 3: And Trump that wasn't planned.
Speaker 2: He said, I don't know what he's talking about, right,
Speaker 2: he does either. Uh. That was a moment in time
Speaker 2: that was spontaneous.
Speaker 8: It was so you could.
Speaker 3: Try to anticipate that. One of the things that.
Speaker 2: Vice President Harris did successfully when she debated Mike Pence.
Speaker 2: Pence at one point went to interrupt her, which can
Speaker 2: sometimes happen, and she turned on the Vice president and said,
Speaker 2: I'm speaking, I'm speaking. She became very sort of like
Speaker 2: a school school marm.
Speaker 11: Remember that.
Speaker 2: I think that as a female candidate, she had that
Speaker 2: ability and and Pence didn't know how to handle it.
Speaker 7: And he could have him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she did wave a figure at him.
Speaker 2: Right now, she had a finger waved at her by
Speaker 2: Telsey Gabbard.
Speaker 9: That's right.
Speaker 2: So she was on the receiving end of a finger
Speaker 2: wave as well.
Speaker 3: So we'll have to see.
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be I think it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 2: And the thing that makes it most interesting it might
Speaker 2: be the only debate of this.
Speaker 3: Of this presidential election.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, if Donald Trump or a vice president
Speaker 2: Harris it had us, we're very successful. Let's assume that
Speaker 2: one of them had a great knight and the other
Speaker 2: had a bad night. Why would the one who has
Speaker 2: a great knife want to have a rematch?
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's true. Well, and the other thing is will
Speaker 11: they talk about Paulicy? Will they actually talk about anything?
Speaker 11: Or is it going to be a series of them
Speaker 11: trying to get soundbites in trying to I mean, I
Speaker 11: like David meh Or I don't know about I don't
Speaker 11: I don't know, not familiar.
Speaker 7: With the other one.
Speaker 11: But I just have a feeling it's gonna be kind
Speaker 11: of a vanilla thing unless you know Trump Trump's and
Speaker 11: she does her own thing and it makes something amusing
Speaker 11: that can be remembered.
Speaker 2: I don't know it's gonna I think it's going to
Speaker 2: exceed our expect expectations.
Speaker 3: In some way. Uh.
Speaker 2: And the reason is I think that this is not
Speaker 2: President Obama and Mitt Romney in Denver, when Mitt Romney
Speaker 2: had a really great first debate and the President Trump
Speaker 2: was tired and didn't do a good job. He had
Speaker 2: a chance to come back and set the record straight,
Speaker 2: and he had a good second.
Speaker 3: And third debate.
Speaker 11: He did, but he was sick. I think the first
Speaker 11: one too. So yeah, I don't know, I just I
Speaker 11: don't know. I just well, so was that debate in
Speaker 11: front of an audience?
Speaker 2: Though, yes, talk about.
Speaker 11: I think a lot of audiences kind of makes things flat.
Speaker 2: But well it was, but it worked for Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: It worked for Donald Trump because.
Speaker 2: He played to that audience and he was interrupting Joe
Speaker 2: Biden and and there were a lot of people who
Speaker 2: didn't like it. Yeah, well, I think everybody agrees that
Speaker 2: that they've made surprisingly showed that the fact that Mike's
Speaker 2: were muted helped.
Speaker 3: From the President Trump.
Speaker 11: Oh absolutely, because he couldn't. He couldn't do his usual
Speaker 11: stuff and then get the crowd riled up and then
Speaker 11: be more of a jerk. He is better on his
Speaker 11: feet and speaking off the cuffs though. I mean, I
Speaker 11: feel like she needs notes no matter what she does,
Speaker 11: So that could be interesting.
Speaker 7: Yeah, she's been.
Speaker 11: Doing an awful lot of prepping and studying.
Speaker 2: So if he, I mean, if if he just knows
Speaker 2: the five issues that she has gone one hundred and
Speaker 2: eighty degrees on fracking, support for police. You know, she
Speaker 2: was a big supporter of the Minnesota Bail Fund after
Speaker 2: people turned down the city in Minnesota, the Wall. She
Speaker 2: got grief from Aaron Brunette on CNN, which I have
Speaker 2: some sound I might play next hour. And of course
Speaker 2: she has to take responsibility for the problems of the
Speaker 2: of the Biden administration, inflation as well as the withdrawal
Speaker 2: from Afghanistan.
Speaker 3: He there's a lot to work with if he's disciplined.
Speaker 11: Yeah, well hopefully he will be.
Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see, Laury. I'm up on my brakes,
Speaker 2: so I'm gonta let you run. But you're the my
Speaker 2: favorite call of the night, as.
Speaker 1: You often are.
Speaker 7: I have a great run. Good night, a great night.
Speaker 2: Good night to those are you know on the line.
Speaker 2: We're going to get to you right after the news,
Speaker 2: I promise. And if you're not in the line, I
Speaker 2: have one line at six one seven, two five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty and I got a couple at six one seven,
Speaker 2: nine thirty, and I am just trying to have a
Speaker 2: conversation tonight. Get your sense as to what you expect,
Speaker 2: what what might be a surprise you, you know politics.
Speaker 2: Feel free to join the conversation, and I'd like to
Speaker 2: make it a conversation back after this