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<v Speaker 1>With Dan Ray on Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, well, tomorrow night, at this time, we will

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<v Speaker 2>be in the midst of what might be the one

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<v Speaker 2>and only presidential debate between the two nominees. We had

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<v Speaker 2>presidential primary debates all last winter, from January February March,

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<v Speaker 2>and they petered out in April. Once President Biden secured

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<v Speaker 2>a sufficient number of nominees delegates, I said, say, to

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<v Speaker 2>win the nomination. He had fourteen million votes and collected

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<v Speaker 2>more than enough delegates to the convention. Of course, everything

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<v Speaker 2>changed after his June debate with President Trump. President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>outlasted some Republican rivals, the most notable of which was

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<v Speaker 2>Nikki Haley.

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<v Speaker 3>And we all.

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<v Speaker 2>Know what has happened in the last few weeks, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is that President Biden decided that he was not

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<v Speaker 2>going to run, He was not going to accept the nomination,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was. He has basically gone into retirement, as

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<v Speaker 2>simple as that. And Kamala Harris I think everyone understands.

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<v Speaker 2>So tomorrow night, the Trump campaign and the Harris campaign

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<v Speaker 2>have agreed to one debate. Now they may agree to

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<v Speaker 2>subsequent debates, but they've agreed to one single debate Tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>night on ABC. It will be held in Philadelphia, which

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<v Speaker 2>of course is a very critical state, a battleground state.

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<v Speaker 2>And the questions that I have for you tonight on this,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'd like to talk about this for a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of hours, is what do you expect tomorrow night. We've

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<v Speaker 2>been told that the rules are going to be similar

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<v Speaker 2>to June for those of you who have been not

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<v Speaker 2>following this closely, that the mics will be muted when

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<v Speaker 2>their time has elapsed. The two candidates time have elapsed.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no studio audience. I do not believe there's an

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<v Speaker 2>opening statement. There may be a closing statement. The debate

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<v Speaker 2>starts at nine o'clock and it is expected to go.

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<v Speaker 3>For ninety minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that is a hard and fast

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<v Speaker 2>number or if the moderators of the debate, who are

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<v Speaker 2>two of the ABC News anchors, have an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>extend the debate. But the thing that to me is

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<v Speaker 2>most interesting is it is potentially the only time that

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<v Speaker 2>we will see these two candidates on the same stage together.

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<v Speaker 2>That it is conceivable that this could be the first

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<v Speaker 2>and only debate of twenty twenty four final presidential debate,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think is a disgrace in the past.

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<v Speaker 3>In the past, a so called.

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<v Speaker 2>Presidential Debate Commission, which had been agreed upon by the

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<v Speaker 2>two major parties, would schedule three presidential debates and one

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<v Speaker 2>vice presidential debate. That was the formula for years. It

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<v Speaker 2>is not the formula this year. We're apparently making it

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<v Speaker 2>up as we've gone along. Now you can argue that

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<v Speaker 2>there was one debate in June between an incumbent Democratic

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<v Speaker 2>president and his Republican challenger, but those are not the

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<v Speaker 2>two names that will be on the ballot.

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<v Speaker 3>For you to choose.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just want to hear from you as to

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<v Speaker 2>what do you expect tomorrow night. Who has the advantage

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<v Speaker 2>going into the debate? Is the advantage going in to

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump or to Vice President Harris. My suspicion is

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<v Speaker 2>the candidate who we talked earlier time with John Keller

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<v Speaker 2>of WBCTV that the candidate that has the most to

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<v Speaker 2>win tomorrow night is the candidate who is least known

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<v Speaker 2>to the American public, and that, of course is Vice

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<v Speaker 2>President Harris. The candidate who has the most to lose

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow night, in my opinion, is former President Trump. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>you may agree or you may disagree. I'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>hear what you think. But my thought is that if

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump has the discipline that he displayed when he

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<v Speaker 2>debated Joe Biden in June, he will probably have a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good night. If he does not display that discipline,

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<v Speaker 2>and if he engages in any sort of a personal

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<v Speaker 2>attack on Vice President Harris, that will not serve him well.

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<v Speaker 2>My suspicion is that both of these candidates will be

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<v Speaker 2>cautioned by their handlers, by their staff to follow a

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<v Speaker 2>certain line of behavior. They will all be, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>in a position to respond to whatever questions are asked.

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you this that surprisingly late last week,

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<v Speaker 2>there was on CNN in Upfront with Aaron Burnett a

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<v Speaker 2>very interesting story which we might get into, in which

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<v Speaker 2>CNN accused the Harris campaign of hypocrisy for her switch

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<v Speaker 2>on the border wall, in her use of the Trump

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<v Speaker 2>boarder wall, which she had very openly in sisphrally vociferously, vociferously,

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<v Speaker 2>Dan condemned uh and she used pictures of Trump's wall

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<v Speaker 2>in her campaign commercials. And then there was this comment

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<v Speaker 2>from Bernie Sanders yesterday. He was on Animus NBC and

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<v Speaker 2>he was asked about Vice President Harris changing some of

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<v Speaker 2>her positions or abandoning her progressive ideals. This is cut

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<v Speaker 2>number five, Rob please play this.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Bernie.

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<v Speaker 4>Secrime Vice President Kamala Harris as a progressive. She has

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<v Speaker 4>previously supported medicare for all, now she does not. She's

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<v Speaker 4>previously supported a ban on fracking, now she does not. These, Senator,

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<v Speaker 4>are ideas that you have campaigned on. Do you think

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<v Speaker 4>that she is abandoning her progressive ideals?

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<v Speaker 5>No, I don't think she's abandoning her ideals. I think

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<v Speaker 5>she's trying to be pragmatic and doing what she thinks

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<v Speaker 5>is right in order to win the election.

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<v Speaker 3>My own view is slightly different.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that in America today, there are a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of people, rural people, working class people who no longer

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<v Speaker 5>believe that the United States Congress and government represents their interests.

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<v Speaker 5>They're dominated by big money interests.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that certainly unresponsive to the question, But what is

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<v Speaker 2>critical is that she's trying to be pragmatic to win

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<v Speaker 2>the election. You can interpret that by saying she basically

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<v Speaker 2>is being disingenuous with the American people by changing positions

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<v Speaker 2>that she endorsed and embraced for years and now realizes

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<v Speaker 2>that she has to go to the center. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of questions here. Donald Trump is not going

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<v Speaker 2>to trim his sales. He's going to take positions and

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<v Speaker 2>hold those positions. He will try to explain his position,

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<v Speaker 2>certainly on abortion. That'll be a subject tomorrow night that

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<v Speaker 2>is going to come up. So with all of that said,

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to open up the phone lines, give

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<v Speaker 2>everybody a chance to join the conversation. What do you

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<v Speaker 2>expect tomorrow night for whom is there greater danger tomorrow night,

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump or Vice President Harris? And who has the

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<v Speaker 2>most to gain tomorrow night in your opinion? There have

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<v Speaker 2>been some recent polls which seem to suggest that the bump,

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<v Speaker 2>the increase in the polls that Vice President Harris enjoyed

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<v Speaker 2>after a very successful Democratic Convention have now receded, and

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe that that.

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<v Speaker 3>That wave has has ebbed.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I still think it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a close election. Here are the numbers six, one, seven, two, five,

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<v Speaker 2>four to ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one,

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<v Speaker 3>Your point of view and if you really.

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<v Speaker 2>Are an independent undecided, if you're there are a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of independent photosignes. But if you truly undecided. I would

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<v Speaker 2>love to talk to you tonight and have you tell

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<v Speaker 2>me what you hope to see tomorrow night. The only

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<v Speaker 2>two lines open right now are six one, seven, nine,

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<v Speaker 2>three one, ten thirty Back with Kevin, Mark and Steve

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<v Speaker 2>and hopefully you on Night Side. This is a Monday night.

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<v Speaker 2>I am back after a week's vacation.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to remind.

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<v Speaker 2>You I like to hear from phone callers. I really

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy hearing from new phone callers and from our traditional

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<v Speaker 2>night side phone callers. Because you this program is to

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<v Speaker 2>give you an opportunity to speak to the nation. I

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<v Speaker 2>was talking this morning with a friend of mine who

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<v Speaker 2>might be listening now.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a professor of journalism, used to write for Sports Illustrated.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just use his first name in case he's in

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<v Speaker 2>a car. I know he's driving to Pennsylvania, Professor Brooks.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're listening, I hope you found ten thirty on

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<v Speaker 2>your AM dial back on Nightside right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we're talking about the big debate tomorrow night.

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<v Speaker 2>Around this time tomorrow night, they'll be wrapping it up.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be interesting whether or not it's a knockout. If

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<v Speaker 2>you think of it in terms of a boxing event,

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<v Speaker 2>it's conceivable it could go fifteen rounds and be a

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<v Speaker 2>split decision.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to Kevin up in Lowell. Kevin, your first

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<v Speaker 2>up this hour at nights. I appreciate your patients.

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<v Speaker 6>Go right ahead, Hey, goodies, and again I just want

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<v Speaker 6>to touch on a couple of points, and I figured

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<v Speaker 6>i'd let you respond to what you want first. I

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<v Speaker 6>think what's gonna happen is and I'm gona end up

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<v Speaker 6>turning off my TV being very disappointed. I just don't

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<v Speaker 6>hear these officials talking about what they're gonna do. It's

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<v Speaker 6>usually a blame game. And another thing that kind of

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<v Speaker 6>Beho's me is this whole election process is essentially a

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<v Speaker 6>popularity contest. Who's more believable, who's more likable? I would

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<v Speaker 6>like to see the whole process change. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 6>see comprehensive testing, like do you know about the economy,

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<v Speaker 6>do you know about history? Do you know about foreign relations?

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<v Speaker 7>Like you know?

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<v Speaker 6>Even how they picked their cabinet?

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<v Speaker 3>Like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's one of the things that I think a

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<v Speaker 2>debate should should show. In other words, there have been

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<v Speaker 2>cases where presidential candidates have made mistakes in debates. Gerald

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<v Speaker 2>Ford debating Jimmy Carter, suggested that the people of Poland,

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<v Speaker 2>who at that point were behind the Iron Curtain, and

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<v Speaker 2>gerald Ford knew that he made a comment that he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't think that people would agree that Russia was controlling

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<v Speaker 2>president of the United States. It's almost sometimes the way

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<v Speaker 2>they phrased the question. Let me ask you this, Kevin,

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<v Speaker 2>have you decided who you go to vote for? Are

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<v Speaker 2>you truly at this point undecided?

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<v Speaker 6>I decided who I'm going to vote for. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like I'm targeted as soon as I say Trump.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I didn't vote for Trump. During the Hillary

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<v Speaker 6>Clinton or Trump election in twenty sixteen, I actually slipt

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<v Speaker 6>under a desk at Children's Hospital because I had to

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<v Speaker 6>work late. I would actually voted for Hillary, okay, and

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<v Speaker 6>then during the Biden and minute the Biden Trump, I

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<v Speaker 6>voted for Trump because I liked what I saw the best.

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<v Speaker 6>The most successful time in my life was under Trump. Now.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if you caught the more heally faced

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<v Speaker 6>Nation interview, but that's kind of just what drove me

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<v Speaker 6>over the edge, because you know, it's just the lies,

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<v Speaker 6>the blatant lies that they tell on TV to the people,

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<v Speaker 6>her to sit there and say that Trump, she said,

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<v Speaker 6>like a few months ago, there was a Biprisonan bill

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<v Speaker 8>Excuse me.

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<v Speaker 6>Trump hasn't been the president in four years. And that's

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<v Speaker 6>another thing I'd like to see during the debate instead

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<v Speaker 6>of like what personalized attacks like oh you didn't do this,

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<v Speaker 6>be like like for Trump, for example, we could say like, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>well you say you fix the water or like I

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<v Speaker 6>ruined that like within hours of you becoming president. Joe

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<v Speaker 6>Biden reverse the border funded, you know, like concrete like

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<v Speaker 6>this is what we did. You say this, but we

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<v Speaker 6>actually did this. I think that would help Trump. I

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<v Speaker 2>I will tell you this, Kevin, you're an extraordinarily informed voter.

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<v Speaker 2>You and I mean that seriously. You have proven to

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<v Speaker 2>which way you were going. Obviously, I know now probably

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to vote for Trump. When in terms of

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<v Speaker 9>Exactly, that Face the Nation interview was a job interview,

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<v Speaker 9>Nancy Astra not one, you know, and that's what I

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<v Speaker 9>want to I wanted to know where my tax dollar

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<v Speaker 2>You know, well, I saw you tonight that that that

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<v Speaker 6>Come to my state. Will help you the sudden it's

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<v Speaker 6>what I mean? I think the American people are waking

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<v Speaker 7>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this question if I can amongst

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<v Speaker 3>Is there? Uh? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you only associate with people who you tend to

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<v Speaker 6>Actually, my circle of friends have just drifted away from

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<v Speaker 6>can't things, and I tell them that's why things don't change.

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<v Speaker 6>Because people just want to live their life. They want

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<v Speaker 6>but they don't want to do the hard work.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, don't tell me you you're extraordinary. Is this

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<v Speaker 3>your first time calling my show?

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<v Speaker 6>No, I've told you before. Usually I talk with Dan

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<v Speaker 6>Ray late at night because I worked late night overnight spot.

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<v Speaker 6>I like to catch you sometimes on my way into work.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll call again, though.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course you are talking to Dan Ray even though

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<v Speaker 6>Bradley J. Bradley J. That's why I normally talk to

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<v Speaker 6>Bradley Jae.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well he's no longer on the air, so you

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<v Speaker 2>We're now we're news after midnight. I want you to

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<v Speaker 2>become a much more regular caller here on my show

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<v Speaker 2>because you are a well informed caller and you made

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<v Speaker 2>your case extremely well.

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<v Speaker 3>I thank you so much for your call.

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<v Speaker 6>Well shot again, Thank you, Dan, thank.

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<v Speaker 2>You, Kevin, Dan, Ray, Bradley j whatever, and I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of all sounds the same. Let me go next to

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<v Speaker 2>Mark and Dry New Hampshire, Mark next on nights, I

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<v Speaker 7>Gee for a very well informed caller.

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<v Speaker 10>He didn't even know what he was talking to.

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<v Speaker 11>What do you know about that?

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<v Speaker 10>Dan? Jesus?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he was pretty well informed on the on

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, yeah whatever? So, uh, this is the point I

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<v Speaker 10>need to make, okay about this debate tomorrow night. What

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<v Speaker 10>Donald has to do is pound this communist over the

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<v Speaker 10>head with her.

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<v Speaker 6>What what do you mean? Come on, why do you.

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<v Speaker 7>Have to what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 10>Come on?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you have to have to go?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this mark, Why do you have

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<v Speaker 2>to go and and start with calling her a communist?

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<v Speaker 2>She's the devil because.

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<v Speaker 10>She is a communist. She's a marvelist comedy.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta be honest with you. I'm not letting it

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<v Speaker 3>I really am not.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, sometimes you just go over the top, and

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<v Speaker 2>tonight you've gone over the top. I appreciate you calling,

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<v Speaker 2>but if you start calling people everybody a communist, then

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<v Speaker 2>other people are gonna call Trump this or whatever. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>tired of the name calling from all the candidates. To

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<v Speaker 2>be really honest with you, okay, I think we got

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<v Speaker 2>to bring some civility back into this conversation, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think you brought much civility in tonight. So I

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate your call, and we'll hear from you again, I

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<v Speaker 2>would hope in a most civil fashion. Six one seven, two,

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<v Speaker 2>of the hour. What purpose is served by trying to

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<v Speaker 2>label somebody a communist. She's not a communist, she's not

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<v Speaker 2>a communist. You know, it's as simple as that. You

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<v Speaker 2>want to go see a communist, go to Russia. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>go to Russia, uh and you see Poot. You'll see

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<v Speaker 2>the communist there. You want to see a communist, You

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<v Speaker 2>want to see a real communist. Go to Venezuela. You

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<v Speaker 2>see Madero who basically loses an election and now wants

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<v Speaker 2>to jail his opponent, and the opponent has gone into

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<v Speaker 2>exile in Spain. This, you know, it's the hyperbole over

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<v Speaker 2>the top is insane. Right now, back on Nightside after.

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<v Speaker 1>This, You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, back to the phones ago Stephen Bridgewater, Steve, what

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<v Speaker 2>are you looking for? What do you expect tomorrow night

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<v Speaker 7>All right, Dan, this is my answer. I know when

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<v Speaker 7>you started off introducing this part of the program, you

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<v Speaker 7>said you think that Trump has more more to lose

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<v Speaker 7>than Kamala Harris. I think that's what you're at the beginning. Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't I got to tell you Dan that in

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<v Speaker 7>that way, I don't agree. No, I think Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 7>is the one that has a lot more to prove

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<v Speaker 7>because all the Trump voters, they've already decided they're going

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<v Speaker 7>to vote for Trump. I don't think anybody's questioning him,

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<v Speaker 7>but her. She still has to make the case. There's

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<v Speaker 7>after being vice president for three and a half years,

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<v Speaker 7>that don't know what she stands for. So I think

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<v Speaker 7>she's the one with that at the end of the night,

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<v Speaker 7>it's more important for her to really change people's minds

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<v Speaker 7>or let people know what she stands for, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's I think that's let me just

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<v Speaker 2>say this, I happened, I happen to agree with your observation,

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<v Speaker 2>But I think, but I think maybe I would rephrase

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<v Speaker 2>my position. Trump could lose the election if, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>he were to go after her uh as as a woman,

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<v Speaker 2>or go after her in any way which was undisciplined. Yes, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I got. The reason I say is I think that

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<v Speaker 2>I think that Harris. Harris will know what she wants

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<v Speaker 3>How come you believe now this? When a few years

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<v Speaker 3>ago you said.

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<v Speaker 7>This, yeah, exactly exactly normally that I think Trumpy's got

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<v Speaker 8>You know what I.

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<v Speaker 7>Did, And now you know what you got over almost

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<v Speaker 7>the past four years with Biden. Well, guess what you're

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<v Speaker 7>gonna get with with Harris. He's even more to the

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<v Speaker 7>left than Biden. And even what's his name, Bernie Sanders,

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<v Speaker 7>You're gonna get even worse than what you got over

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<v Speaker 7>the past four years with Biden. Higher grocery prisures, how you.

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<v Speaker 6>Got saloone prices, even more young people not.

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<v Speaker 7>Being able to afford their first homes. That is going

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<v Speaker 7>to get even more bleak if she becomes president. If

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<v Speaker 7>she can get that idea across to walk right back

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know either one of them are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a landslide election. I think that we as

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<v Speaker 2>a country are a sharply divided country. What percentage of

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<v Speaker 2>I suspect that there are very few Trump voters who

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<v Speaker 2>would ever abandon Donald Trump. I agree with you on that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that that there are very few Harris

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<v Speaker 2>voters who would abandon Harris. But what percentage do you

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<v Speaker 2>think of the people who be watching the debate tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>or what percentage of the American electorate do you think

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<v Speaker 2>are truly undecided and haven't figured it out already? I

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<v Speaker 2>suspect that's a pretty small number.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, but you know it doesn't take many undecided

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<v Speaker 7>to make the difference. You don't damn what skin me?

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<v Speaker 7>What I watched last night on thought and it concerns me.

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<v Speaker 7>There are only three or four a small handful of

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<v Speaker 7>battles ground states. What Pennsylvania, Georgia and North Carolina?

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<v Speaker 10>Is it?

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<v Speaker 7>I think they're going to determine the whole Pitcher. That

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<v Speaker 2>Come, well, there are seven battleground states, you know, not

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<v Speaker 2>only Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Georgia, but you have to

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<v Speaker 2>throw Arizona, Nevada, Yeah, Wisconsin, and Michigan in there because

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<v Speaker 2>traditionally they have been very close states. Massachusetts is not

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<v Speaker 2>matter how much the Democrats would love to think that

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<v Speaker 2>Texas is within reach, that's not a battleground state. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>a few years ago, Florida was kind of a coin toss.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a coin toss anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 2>No, right now they both probably have pretty secure a

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<v Speaker 2>couple one hundred electoral votes each. I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a big you know, Donald Trump won

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden also ended up with three hundred and six.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's going to be closer. It's going to

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<v Speaker 7>I wish it would be a blowout for Trump like

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<v Speaker 7>it was when Reagan ran in nineteen eighty against Carter.

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<v Speaker 7>I love that Dan effect what happened, But I think, well, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Real blowout for Reagan was when he ran against Mondale,

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<v Speaker 2>when he carried every state except for Mondale's home state

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<v Speaker 2>of Minnesota, UH and the district of Columbia.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait.

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<v Speaker 7>Dan, he carried Massachusetts two, yes he did.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my carriage. He carried Massachusetts twice.

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<v Speaker 2>Reagan carried Massachusetts in nineteen eighty and nineteen eighty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Now in nineteen eighty he had the benefit of John Anderson,

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<v Speaker 2>they were probably votes that would have gone to Carter

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<v Speaker 2>if the Anderson was development. That's little old secret that

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<v Speaker 2>in that in deep that in deep blue Massachusetts, Ronald

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<v Speaker 2>Reagan won twice.

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<v Speaker 3>Little know that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Steve, guys, always I appreciate you. I appreciate you

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<v Speaker 2>calls it was, It's always fun to talk with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan.

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<v Speaker 7>Likewise, likewise, I got you all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got wide open lines now at six one, seven, two, four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. But in the meantime, let's go and talk

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<v Speaker 2>with Sandra in Boston. Hey, Sandra, welcome back. How are

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<v Speaker 2>you tonight?

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<v Speaker 12>I'm well. I hope you have a good vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a really nice vacation. Did didn't go go anywhere,

444
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<v Speaker 2>kind of hung around.

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<v Speaker 10>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reason that was I was very happy to

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<v Speaker 2>do that. I have been in Italy with nightside listeners

448
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<v Speaker 2>back in early August, and it was nice just to

449
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<v Speaker 2>kind of hang around. Found a couple of new restaurants

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<v Speaker 2>that I liked, and I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>It was it was fun.

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<v Speaker 8>It was fun, So tell us some good weather.

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<v Speaker 3>Great weather, great weather. We're going to great weather for

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of this week too.

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<v Speaker 2>It was beautiful day to day and they're saying that

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow the weather's going to be just as nice. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was watching the weather forecast tonight. Looks like it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be great for the rest of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's your weather forecast tomorrow? On Trump and Harris,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think is going to happen? Stormy or.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm hoping that Trump can convert some people who may

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<v Speaker 12>think that the other side is environmentally correct. And I

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<v Speaker 12>actually think that Trump is sort of a hidden environmentalist

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<v Speaker 12>on some level. And part of that thinking is that

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<v Speaker 12>one of the worst environmental programs in the world is war,

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<v Speaker 12>and if we don't start wars, that's a good environmental program.

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<v Speaker 12>And I think he did well with that. And then

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<v Speaker 12>he also doesn't like offshore wind, and I do test

469
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<v Speaker 12>offshore wind, and I think off the coast of New England,

470
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<v Speaker 12>it's a very bad idea because of the electromagnetic pulses

471
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<v Speaker 12>that could disrupt the delicate choreography of invertebrates and squid

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<v Speaker 12>and what eats them, and what we eat. I think

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<v Speaker 12>it is from the fisheries and.

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<v Speaker 3>Also those those those offshore wind.

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<v Speaker 2>Machines which have had some of their blades fly off

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<v Speaker 2>into the ocean.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 12>Sure, eating fiberglass, Yeah, exactly a good thing. And we're

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<v Speaker 12>so identified with fishing in New England and it's it's

480
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<v Speaker 12>really one of the most beautiful parts of New England.

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<v Speaker 12>So I'm hoping he can speak to that when the

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<v Speaker 12>environmental issues come off, which they will.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. The other thing too is I think there's a

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<v Speaker 2>growing understanding that nuclear energy is probably the cleanest form

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<v Speaker 2>of energy that we have.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember they have.

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<v Speaker 12>They have some new small reactors that they're making that

488
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<v Speaker 12>are a lot more compatible with, you know, the general

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<v Speaker 12>philosophies of people in the environmental movement, So that might change.

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<v Speaker 12>He talks about rebranding the nuclear industry, and I think

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<v Speaker 12>there's something to that a lot of countries.

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<v Speaker 13>Let me just finish this one comment if I could.

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<v Speaker 13>You've interrupted me a couple of times. Let me just

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<v Speaker 13>finish this, okay. I think that nuclear energy has proven

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<v Speaker 13>to be very successful in a lot of countries around

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<v Speaker 13>the world. I remember when Three Mile Island occurred in

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<v Speaker 13>the late nineteen seventies and they were trying to build up.

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<v Speaker 2>They had all sorts of protests and Seberg. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that many environmentalists have changed their viewpoint nuclear energy, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that supports what you're saying. Actually is trying

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<v Speaker 2>to support what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 12>So I hope there's an intelligent discussion on those issues.

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<v Speaker 12>And then the second thing that I'm very concerned about,

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<v Speaker 12>and I think, I guess this is the media what

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<v Speaker 12>I would call media afterburn. I mean, I have been

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<v Speaker 12>rather disappointed in the media, not you, but other people in.

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<v Speaker 3>The disappointed with me. That's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I like sometimes criticism because frankly that you never hesitate

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<v Speaker 2>to criticize me to my face.

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<v Speaker 3>You go right ahead, dumb problem.

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<v Speaker 2>But I like the fact that you seem not to

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<v Speaker 2>be wanting to criticize me as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So go ahead.

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<v Speaker 10>Well.

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<v Speaker 12>The biggest problem right now, I think is our foreign policy.

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<v Speaker 12>It's just horrendous. And when you look at the person

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<v Speaker 12>who's running it, Anthony Blinkn, the Secretary of State, and

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<v Speaker 12>you know that he's the person who works I frustrated

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<v Speaker 12>the letter that the fifty one CIA folks wrote that

521
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<v Speaker 12>had such an impact on the last election. You have

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<v Speaker 12>to ask the question, why hasn't the media called for

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<v Speaker 12>more examination of his participation as secretary of State? And

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<v Speaker 12>we know that with Biden not being while being somewhat

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<v Speaker 12>pognitively challenged, he has probably played a larger role in

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<v Speaker 12>foreign policy than any secretary of State. Ever, I don't

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<v Speaker 12>hear anybody questioning that he should be there when he

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<v Speaker 12>is so ethically challenged.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I think he made some interesting points. I enjoyed

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation. Thank you so Andrew, have.

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<v Speaker 3>A great night.

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<v Speaker 12>Okay, you too, Thanks Dan.

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<v Speaker 3>Rob.

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<v Speaker 2>Make sure that these listeners are able to hear me well,

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<v Speaker 2>because I just kind of tough. I was trying to,

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<v Speaker 2>as they say, get a word in edgewise there. Wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to support some of the things that she said. She's right,

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<v Speaker 2>Blincoln was one of the individuals who who orchestrated that

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<v Speaker 2>those fifty one so called CIA and intelligence experts who

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<v Speaker 2>said that it looked like Russian disinformation talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>Hunter Biden laptop, et cetera. We now know they were

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<v Speaker 2>not correct on that. We'll take a break six one, seven, two, five,

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<v Speaker 2>four to ten thirty. A couple lines there and one

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<v Speaker 2>in six one seven nine three one, ten thirty. Come

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<v Speaker 2>right back on Night Side.

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<v Speaker 1>Now bent to Dan Ray live from the window World,

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<v Speaker 1>Nice Side Studios. I' WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's keep going.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to go to Marty in Saint Augustine, Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>Love Saint Augustine, Florida, one of the great communities down south.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me get this thing going here, Rob, pick them

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<v Speaker 2>up for me. Please, having trouble with my mouse here, Rob,

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<v Speaker 2>give me Marty from Saint Augustine.

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<v Speaker 3>Please, thank you. Marty, welcome. How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>For some reason it got a little bit difficult problem

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<v Speaker 2>with my mouse, which never seem to have except occasionally.

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<v Speaker 2>Go right ahead, Marty, what's your take on tomorrow? What

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<v Speaker 2>are you looking forward to hearing?

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, first of all, let me say this. Kamala Kamala

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<v Speaker 8>harris Is.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's Kamala. I think they pronounce I.

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<v Speaker 8>Don't care, but Kamala whatever it is, she's occupying the

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<v Speaker 8>position that she wasn't elected. She basically was part of

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<v Speaker 8>a coup that they took advantage of a senile man.

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<v Speaker 8>And now she's the heir of parent and she's going

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<v Speaker 8>to be having a so called debate against the guy

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<v Speaker 8>who was president or right away. Your previous call was

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<v Speaker 8>very good. She was on the money, she was very sensible. Okay,

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<v Speaker 8>just having a.

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<v Speaker 3>Tough time having a conversation with him, Marty. That was

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<v Speaker 3>all a little frustrated.

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<v Speaker 8>Anyway, So Kamala Harris is going to be she has

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<v Speaker 8>noca how.

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<v Speaker 2>A butt if we agree on how about if we

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<v Speaker 2>agree just on vice President Harris because some people think

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<v Speaker 2>that that pronouncing someone's name incorrectly is almost insulting.

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<v Speaker 3>But whatever you like to do, you know what.

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<v Speaker 8>And those people they got to get the chip off

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<v Speaker 8>his shoulder, all right, go ahead, okay. Anyway, anyway, she

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<v Speaker 8>has no accomplishments and no achievements. She's a lawyer. She

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<v Speaker 8>talked about Okay, let me say this to you. They

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<v Speaker 8>always referred they like to refer to Donald Trump as

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<v Speaker 8>a felon. Well, let me tell you something. And I

584
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<v Speaker 8>may have mentioned this before. Martha Stewart took a felony

585
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<v Speaker 8>wrap for insider trading, which didn't really hurt anybody. It

586
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:36.440
<v Speaker 8>was an unethical or whatever. Now she's back on TV.

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<v Speaker 8>She's a multi billionaire. I couldn't afford to live next

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<v Speaker 8>to her. You couldn't afford to live next to her,

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<v Speaker 8>So they got to stop smearing somebody and saying that

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<v Speaker 8>he's also well, he.

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<v Speaker 3>Is a felon.

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<v Speaker 2>At this point, he's convicted of I think it's thirty

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<v Speaker 2>four felonies. I might not agree with the prosecution, Marty,

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<v Speaker 2>but from a factual point of view, it's like saying

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<v Speaker 2>somebody is a right or lefty.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't know how you get it.

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<v Speaker 2>We might you might disagree with the prosecution, but what

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<v Speaker 2>did the jury come back with.

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<v Speaker 8>My next door neighbor is a convicted felon.

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<v Speaker 10>He was a.

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<v Speaker 8>Skinhead in California, and I told him, Son, he's about

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<v Speaker 8>fifty five. You're a felon, You're not a crook. I

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<v Speaker 8>know a guy in New York who's being mentored by

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<v Speaker 8>a fellow used to be on my job together.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Hunter Biden a convicted felon?

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<v Speaker 3>Marty?

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<v Speaker 8>Is he a convicted felon? He's convicted, but he's also

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<v Speaker 8>into dope. And I don't remember Donald Trump. Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're just Marty. We're going off the rails here. Please,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm being patient with you.

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<v Speaker 8>Listen, let me just finish. I'm going to watch tomorrow

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<v Speaker 8>because I'm not into football politics is my football. I

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<v Speaker 8>want to see what tricks she can pull out.

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<v Speaker 7>Of the top pack.

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<v Speaker 3>And well, we'll see. We'll see how.

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<v Speaker 8>She's going to best and maybe she might not even

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<v Speaker 8>show up. Whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I take it to the bank, Marty, She's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be there, Okay, trust.

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<v Speaker 8>Me, Okay, all right, Well let's see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>And there were people who are a week ago in

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<v Speaker 2>this or not a week ago, people who are a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks ago were trying to convince me that

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump wouldn't show up. They were wrong too. They

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<v Speaker 2>will both be there. Take that one today.

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<v Speaker 8>She's not gonna show up. I said, it's a possibility

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<v Speaker 8>because she has nothing to go by basically except name calling.

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<v Speaker 8>She has no achievements, Steve, has no accomplishment, She hasn't

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<v Speaker 8>pushed forward any any legislation as a vice president. So

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<v Speaker 8>what can she say? She what can she hang her

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<v Speaker 8>hat on?

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<v Speaker 3>Well we'll find out tomorrow. Night, Marty.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate the call as always, Thank you much, appreciate you

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<v Speaker 2>have a good night.

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<v Speaker 3>You two, Good night. Rob again. You gotta take that down.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me go to Laurie in Idaho. Laurie, thank you

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<v Speaker 3>for calling. How are you tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at a tough crowd. I thought they'd give me

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<v Speaker 2>a break.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just back crowds.

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<v Speaker 11>They're all chomping. It's a bit it's been two long

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<v Speaker 11>so anyway, welcome back. And I you know, I don't.

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<v Speaker 11>I didn't have a ton of expectations about this thing

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<v Speaker 11>coming up. I don't. I mean, first of all, the

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<v Speaker 11>both of them keyed off crowds, so having no audience

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<v Speaker 11>and a couple of moderators. And if he speaks you know, policy, great,

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<v Speaker 11>if she speaks policy, I don't know what I believe.

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<v Speaker 11>So he can control himself and not do any you know,

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<v Speaker 11>borish stuff. I think he'll do okay. But I think

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<v Speaker 11>it's not gonna I don't think it's gonna bump anything

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<v Speaker 11>one or the other hugely. I don't. But John Keller

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<v Speaker 11>earlier had a really good point about are they gonna

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<v Speaker 11>look at they come in with some pre prepared line

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<v Speaker 11>or something to create a buzzy you know, SoundBite that

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<v Speaker 11>they can use and you know as and whatever for

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<v Speaker 11>the rest of the campaign. That's that I think was

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<v Speaker 11>a very intelligent thought.

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<v Speaker 2>So they might do. I mean, you know, remember when

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<v Speaker 2>when when Trump uh when former president Trump debated President Biden,

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<v Speaker 2>and Biden gave that kind of long, nonsensical answer.

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<v Speaker 3>And Trump that wasn't planned.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, I don't know what he's talking about, right,

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<v Speaker 2>he does either. Uh. That was a moment in time

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<v Speaker 2>that was spontaneous.

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<v Speaker 8>It was so you could.

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<v Speaker 3>Try to anticipate that. One of the things that.

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<v Speaker 2>Vice President Harris did successfully when she debated Mike Pence.

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<v Speaker 2>Pence at one point went to interrupt her, which can

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes happen, and she turned on the Vice president and said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm speaking, I'm speaking. She became very sort of like

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<v Speaker 2>a school school marm.

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<v Speaker 11>Remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that as a female candidate, she had that

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<v Speaker 2>ability and and Pence didn't know how to handle it.

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<v Speaker 7>And he could have him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she did wave a figure at him.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, she had a finger waved at her by

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<v Speaker 2>Telsey Gabbard.

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<v Speaker 9>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>So she was on the receiving end of a finger

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<v Speaker 2>wave as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll have to see.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's gonna be I think it's gonna be interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing that makes it most interesting it might

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<v Speaker 2>be the only debate of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Of this presidential election.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, if Donald Trump or a vice president

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<v Speaker 2>Harris it had us, we're very successful. Let's assume that

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<v Speaker 2>one of them had a great knight and the other

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<v Speaker 2>had a bad night. Why would the one who has

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<v Speaker 2>a great knife want to have a rematch?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, that's true. Well, and the other thing is will

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<v Speaker 11>they talk about Paulicy? Will they actually talk about anything?

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<v Speaker 11>Or is it going to be a series of them

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<v Speaker 11>trying to get soundbites in trying to I mean, I

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<v Speaker 11>like David meh Or I don't know about I don't

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<v Speaker 11>I don't know, not familiar.

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<v Speaker 7>With the other one.

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<v Speaker 11>But I just have a feeling it's gonna be kind

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<v Speaker 11>of a vanilla thing unless you know Trump Trump's and

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<v Speaker 11>she does her own thing and it makes something amusing

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<v Speaker 11>that can be remembered.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know it's gonna I think it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>exceed our expect expectations.

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<v Speaker 3>In some way. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason is I think that this is not

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<v Speaker 2>President Obama and Mitt Romney in Denver, when Mitt Romney

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<v Speaker 2>had a really great first debate and the President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>was tired and didn't do a good job. He had

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to come back and set the record straight,

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<v Speaker 2>and he had a good second.

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<v Speaker 3>And third debate.

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<v Speaker 11>He did, but he was sick. I think the first

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<v Speaker 11>one too. So yeah, I don't know, I just I

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<v Speaker 11>don't know. I just well, so was that debate in

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<v Speaker 11>front of an audience?

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<v Speaker 2>Though, yes, talk about.

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<v Speaker 11>I think a lot of audiences kind of makes things flat.

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<v Speaker 2>But well it was, but it worked for Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>It worked for Donald Trump because.

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<v Speaker 2>He played to that audience and he was interrupting Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Biden and and there were a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 2>didn't like it. Yeah, well, I think everybody agrees that

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<v Speaker 2>that they've made surprisingly showed that the fact that Mike's

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<v Speaker 2>were muted helped.

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<v Speaker 3>From the President Trump.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh absolutely, because he couldn't. He couldn't do his usual

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<v Speaker 11>stuff and then get the crowd riled up and then

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<v Speaker 11>be more of a jerk. He is better on his

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<v Speaker 11>feet and speaking off the cuffs though. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 11>feel like she needs notes no matter what she does,

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<v Speaker 11>So that could be interesting.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, she's been.

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<v Speaker 11>Doing an awful lot of prepping and studying.

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<v Speaker 2>So if he, I mean, if if he just knows

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<v Speaker 2>the five issues that she has gone one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>eighty degrees on fracking, support for police. You know, she

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<v Speaker 2>was a big supporter of the Minnesota Bail Fund after

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<v Speaker 2>people turned down the city in Minnesota, the Wall. She

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<v Speaker 2>got grief from Aaron Brunette on CNN, which I have

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<v Speaker 2>some sound I might play next hour. And of course

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<v Speaker 2>she has to take responsibility for the problems of the

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<v Speaker 2>of the Biden administration, inflation as well as the withdrawal

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<v Speaker 2>from Afghanistan.

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<v Speaker 3>He there's a lot to work with if he's disciplined.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, well hopefully he will be.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see, we'll see, Laury. I'm up on my brakes,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm gonta let you run. But you're the my

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<v Speaker 2>favorite call of the night, as.

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<v Speaker 1>You often are.

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<v Speaker 7>I have a great run. Good night, a great night.

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<v Speaker 2>Good night to those are you know on the line.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to get to you right after the news,

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<v Speaker 2>I promise. And if you're not in the line, I

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<v Speaker 2>have one line at six one seven, two five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty and I got a couple at six one seven,

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<v Speaker 2>nine thirty, and I am just trying to have a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation tonight. Get your sense as to what you expect,

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<v Speaker 2>what what might be a surprise you, you know politics.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel free to join the conversation, and I'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>make it a conversation back after this