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this Baia men's basketball team. It was fortunate, unfortunate. I know,

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there's all manner of disappointment in Cougar country at now

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and now BYU fans just hope they pray that BYU

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is not one and done in the NCAA tournament, is

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not one and done in the Big twelve tournament. They

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a way this BA basketball team can find a way

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find some scoring threats outside of Aj and Rob. Need

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Media Basketball Tournament. One spot of Toime, Ronald the three

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Speaker 5: Fan, college basketball analyst Javan Jonathan Tavnari, is it football season?

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Speaker 2: Is it golf season? Is it tennis?

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Speaker 5: French Open season? Have the has the World Cup started?

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Speaker 2: That's That's where I met today, is of Wednesday, March fourth.

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Cam Clark, who does our Cougar sports on our day,

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Speaker 2: There's my keep three cut nine edition.

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Speaker 4: What are yours, Cougarnation, Yeah, I like that, I said,

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madness NBA playoffs, actually just kidding. I don't know, oh man, Yeah,

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of these? I'm taking all of them. Give me all

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the above. I didn't see that choice, but I'm penciling

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in all the above. I need all the sports, can

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Women's Big Twelve Tournament has started today and the Big

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the big twelve tournament logo, which people have all kinds

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of other problems with because again you're keeping all the

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eight to ninety. I mean, look, Cincinnati has been playing

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really good basketball. I did not expect the largest margin

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the free throw line of eleven times to get eight

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give us good content without being over critical. He said,

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I don't know what to tell you through in the towel,

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it's a mess hamber Time Show.

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Speaker 6: I didn't see Mark Durant courtside last night. I saw

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I thought it was Tyson Jacks that had the headset on.

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So I don't know where Mark was or if he

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was just not there, but I'm with you. I saw

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this tweet last night and I was.

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Speaker 4: Like, holy cow, Okay, maybe he wasn't on the call.

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I don't think I don't think.

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Speaker 6: He was on the call.

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Speaker 4: But but.

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Speaker 6: So he tweeted out, I don't know what to tell you,

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it's a mess right now. Depth was always an issue

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for this team, but having Richie we were able to

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manage it without him well dot dot dot. And to

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your point, Mark is about that might be the most

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positive person in the entire state of Utah and on

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the whole plan, he's up there. But I think Mark

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Durant might even be more positive than Spencer Linton. Either way, Yeah,

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and again, both those guys work for BYU. So if

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they are saying something to the contrary of hey, it

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seems amazing, then it's like, oh shoot, because again we

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say whatever we want because we don't work for the school.

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And I couldn't believe that Mark tweeted this, not because

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it wasn't true, but because if Mark's saying it, it's

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a big deal. Holy cow, man, that was bad. Ten

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turnovers in the first half. And then AJ says postgame

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like I'm making stupid mistakes, Kevin Young saying that, like

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we just gave the ball away, Like I'm Ron and

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I were texting like at halftime, We're like, do this

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things over? Like do you guys? You just want to

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I wanted to turn the game off at halftime. I

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didn't expe. I don't know, man, Like I keep thinking,

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you know what, maybe one of these days they will

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just find their pride and say we're not letting them

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walk all over us anymore. Yeah, but I I don't

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know if I should say this, but sometimes I feel

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like this POI basketball team is wearing a sticky note

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on their forehead that says kick me, and it's just like, hey, man,

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go for thirty against me, because I'll give it to you. Yeah,

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I think there's teams that I think everyone waiting on

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selection Sunday is waiting to see can I get BYU

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in the first round because they'll let me score as

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many points as I want. And I know that that's

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rude to say, because these are human beings trying to

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play a game. But like, at some point, I think

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this might be as of today, not resume wise, but

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as of today, this might be the worst team in

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the Big Twelve. And I think that that is not

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hyper to say, Like I I think Utah could beat

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this team. Yeah, I think what we saw last night,

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I think this is one of the worst teams in

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the Big twelve.

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Speaker 2: Ben, I'm popping in here.

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Speaker 5: They are gonna play Utah in the first round and

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they could get bouncing the way Utah has played them

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been both times at the Huntsmen and at the Marriott.

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If they bring that same energy, they're beating this team

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by fifteen. Like this team might get bounced to Utah.

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Speaker 2: Like I know Alex Jensen is looking at Chops about

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Oh check that everybody, and guess what.

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Speaker 5: Twitter is about to go crazy and I'm gonna I'm

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not gonna say a word I'm not gonna say a

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word because if you go out there and lose the

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Utah in the first round of the Big twelve Tournament,

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you deserve it. Like we It's not hy probably said

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this team might not win another game this year. Last

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game is on Saturday, been first game in the Big

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twelve Tournament, first game in the NCAA tournament. They might

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not win a game. That is not I probably to

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put on the table. And I'm gonna give them more

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harsher point than Bratt because you know, I always get

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point the finger at me because I'm gonna go to

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sleep and keep it pushing.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that he's this play.

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Speaker 5: And totality, but AJ, last night I saw some softness.

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I'm being honest, like I'm seeing you be soft, like

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sawft soft, like you're complaining and crying at Tony Padien.

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Now for a call, Ben, I've never I just I

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don't know, Ben, like I told you this, you know

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last week, damn it, put your shoulder in somebody and

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go up like he just you're running from the contact,

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like I've never seen a player at this high of

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a caliber like avoid it like I get that Darren

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is different, but like you gotta embrace that, like you

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got to when you get to the NBA been and

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play and playoff basketball. If you thought what they're doing

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in the Big twelve, like they're gonna do the same thing.

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I'm just I'm shocked at AJ when things aren't going

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his way instead of making the adjustment. I know he's

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good at getting to the freaker line, he just won't draw,

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like pick up an offensive foul or two if he did.

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To say, okay, at least he's trying, like you're throwing

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your hands up and I'm like, dude, they're not gonna

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give you a call, Like that's not how it is,

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Like the pump fake is not working. You gotta go

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into the guy's chest. I just I'm waiting to see

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that a little bit more from him. And last night

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I saw I'm complaining a lot to the officials, and

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I was surprised about that.

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Speaker 2: I was disappointed in AJ doing that.

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Speaker 5: You just you got to play basketball, and to me,

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you have to adjust to the officiating, Ben, and you

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know this from playing football. If the officials aren't gonna

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call something, then either you have to make them call

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it or just your game where you can still score

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if they're not going to give you what you want.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't see that last night from AJ.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is my thing, Like I'm gonna put a

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little bit of this on the coaching staff because when

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you when you decide to go ISO basketball and you

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allow defenders to body up AJ, which that's what you're

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allowing when you go ISO basketball, you're allowing the bodying

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up of AJ. And AJ then he's not like this big, thick,

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powerful Lebron like figure, right, Like he's not He's not

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that guy. And so if you get like we remember

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how we talked about before, like if someone's going off

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on me, I'm fouling you hard. Yeah, everyone's kind of

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falling like AJ, like moderately hard at times, and he's

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not always getting the call. But they're bodying him up

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pretty good. And I think he was impacted by that

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physicality last night. I think schematically, you gotta get AJ

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running around a lot more. Is in good shape. Would

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we all agree with that? Now he's taking a good shape, Okay.

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Speaker 6: Came out more than I thought he would last time

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at certain times.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think he's getting bodied up in because

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he was he was just he was inconsistent. He just

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wasn't hitting shots. So but there was one action that

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was really nice where aj started from the right wing,

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got got a couple of screens, got a couple of screens,

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came around over to the left wing, and he's on

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the run and he catches the ball and he's got

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the guy on his back left shoulder. Do you guys

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remember this early on? And he he had a nice lane.

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I think he ended up getting to the to the

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rim there he got some free throw shots, but that

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was like the only like I felt like it advantageous

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shot that he got within like sets. Yeah, there was

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a couple like jumpers that he was It was like

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semi contested some of them that he missed. But like

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we we aren't giving him actions where he is getting,

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in my opinion, kind of a nice wide open look.

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That's my opinion. I agree he missed open shots, but

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you gotta get him in rhythm early. You gotta get

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him scoring, you gotta get him, you know, moving towards

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the rim, and I just I don't know if we

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did that quite honestly. He's got to finish at the

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ram obviously, but he you know, he was he was,

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he was bad, he was he was disrupted, There's no

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doubt about it.

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Speaker 6: I also to that point, I think a lot of

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these teams are, like, we don't believe that you'll make

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other guys beat us. Yes, exactly, So we're gonna sell

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out for AJ. And if that means we have looser

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coverage on Mhilo or someone else, then so be it.

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But like, we don't believe those guys will beat us,

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so we're gonna send more bodies to AJ. And if

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you flick it out to a Mahi Low or a Haideem,

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go for it. We'll let you have that, but force

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us to go guard the other guys. And they have

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a really hard time doing that, which is why it's

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to your point, they can send so many bodies at AJ.

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Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, unfortunately what's going on is loco, right, this

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is crazy. I can't believe they're getting They're just getting bludgeoned.

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They're getting blown out. Cincinnati shot fifty percent from the

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field while also while holding by to forty one point

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four percent. Bearcats knocked down ten three pointers and recorded

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ten steals and six blocks. On defense. Cincinnati led for

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thirty seven minutes of the game. It's crazy. AJ led

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the Cougars with twenty three points, six assists, and six rebounds. Additionally,

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the hopefully coming back not the over I hope he's

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not the first overall NBA draft pick because he said

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he's possibly coming back after he talks to his mom

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about it. He said it jokingly. We do have to

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play that sound today, by the way, from the Deseret

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Voices podcast. Anyway, AJ did not have his best game,

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even though some of his stats look nice. Rob Right

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the third was just behind the BOTSA with twenty one points,

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eight of sixteen shooting. Alex Coo recorded fourteen points, going

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four to seven from beyond the arc. Hadeem Boop got

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the start, but looked at his swords just didn't look

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like that. He look he is the energizing punny. He

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is the solar battery. I think it's Jackson Payne coined

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the phrase. But he just just he just didn't look good.

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Let's get into some sound k y Aj Alexi Coastik

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post game Kevin, where did it get away from you

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guys tonight? Could you put your finger on it?

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Speaker 7: Dug ourselves in a hole to start the game with

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just bad offense. They had thirteen points off of turnovers

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and in the first half, and that continued into the second,

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so it was twenty one four deficit points off turnover.

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It's tough to win, you know, just careless with the ball.

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You know that they're a team that that does a

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good job with their hands, and they're very physical and

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so forth. And we took the bait. Thought that got

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us into a bit of a hole. We could he couldn't,

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you know, we couldn't. We couldn't chip into their lead,

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even I thought we were actually playing pretty good. Our

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defense I thought was actually pretty decent outside that first

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little onslough of threes that they made, so so that

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that I think really took the wind out of our

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sales to start. And then we made that little push

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to start the second half.

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Speaker 4: But then it was more the same. Where did it

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get away from you tonight? If you could put your

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finger on it, like, I mean, pick pick your poison, right,

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it was tough man.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, look, this is what we talk about though,

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Like it's so hard to win basketball games when you

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dig yourself into a hole early, especially when you know

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like your defense is probably not going to be what

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you wanted to be you like, play defense, but don't

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give them the ball, because it felt like fast break

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all night, Like it just felt like Dandae Thomas and

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Jizsel James, like whenever they wanted they could take the

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ball and they get a layup at the rim with

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maybe one other guy there, and again they had they

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had twelve fast break points.

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Speaker 6: My guess is a lot of those were off of turnovers.

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Twenty one total points off of turnovers. So like you

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dig yourself in a hole early, they had ten turnovers

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in the first half. It's just then you have to

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play defense to get extra stops on top of if

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it was just a fifty to fifty game, you cannot

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put yourself in that position early. And to Kevin Young's point,

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like they gave away the basketball. They weren't making clear

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and concise and intentional passes, and it gave Cincinnati a

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lot of confidence, Like you're giving these teams confidence, and

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then you have to play behind extra from behind because

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of a hole that you dug yourself into. When even

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if it's fifty to fifty, if you don't give the

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turnovers a way, it's gonna be a fight. You make

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it an even tougher one on the road on an

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East Coast road trip by turning the ball over so

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consistently early in that first half.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's get back to the sound here. Aj. There

472
00:24:06,519 --> 00:24:08,359
was a lot of back and forth between yourself and

473
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,960
Baba Miller. How unique is his skill set at six

474
00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:12,559
eleven with the with the game he had.

475
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,839
Speaker 9: No, he's tough, no senior can do it all, kind

476
00:24:16,839 --> 00:24:18,640
of like a triple double kind of guy.

477
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:19,559
Speaker 2: Now.

478
00:24:19,559 --> 00:24:21,799
Speaker 9: I remember him at Florida statement. I got Taylor bow

479
00:24:21,839 --> 00:24:23,720
Bowl and was playing with him. But Unick Skill said,

480
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,440
I think you can do well and things at the

481
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:25,839
next level.

482
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 4: Two tough, tough player, No doubt.

483
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 6: They got some freak athletes.

484
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 4: They have some length, they got athleticism, and west Miller's

485
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,799
finally refining that and kind of funneling it into productive

486
00:24:41,319 --> 00:24:47,359
playmaking ability. Kevin offensively, where did the breakdowns come? What happened? Where?

487
00:24:47,599 --> 00:24:52,039
What took you out of the rhythm? Like you mentioned, well,

488
00:24:52,079 --> 00:24:52,400
they just.

489
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 7: Took the ball from us, you know, I mean, there's

490
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,759
there's They just took the ball from us.

491
00:24:56,759 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 3: It's really the bottom line.

492
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 7: So we got to do a better job with our

493
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,400
decision making. It's been you know, that's been an area

494
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,599
that we've struggled in. I mean there's you know, Rob

495
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,359
and AJ have the ball a lot. They had nine

496
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,079
turnovers between the two of them, and so that's got it.

497
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:12,599
That's got to.

498
00:25:12,599 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 4: Improve, got improved. They just took the ball away from us.

499
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,400
I look, the passing was really bad. They just took

500
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:21,640
the ball.

501
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 6: That's not like a careless it's just a careless thing.

502
00:25:25,799 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just careless, just careless. Look, you know,

503
00:25:30,519 --> 00:25:33,039
I put out a poll. I mean it's a joke. Like,

504
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,880
I mean, all of it was broke, all of it

505
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,839
was bad, right, Like is there anything you know? We

506
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,039
are we to the point where we can have these

507
00:25:43,079 --> 00:25:47,400
hard conversations, right, you know, And like I'm joking around,

508
00:25:47,839 --> 00:25:50,359
like when I say, like broke ass passing, you know,

509
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:56,160
you know, or like weak ass defense, like like you

510
00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,519
can I'm joking around because but at the same time,

511
00:26:00,519 --> 00:26:03,160
like yeah, it's kind of serious, but it's it's a joke.

512
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,319
Like it was weak, it was poor, it was it

513
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:12,319
was bad. Can we have tough conversations right now about

514
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:13,839
this team yet? Or No?

515
00:26:14,039 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 6: I think so we can? I think we have been Yeah,

516
00:26:16,799 --> 00:26:17,240
I think so.

517
00:26:17,599 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

518
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 6: I mean again, like I think it's it's all within context.

519
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,279
Because Ron and I had the Ron and I recorded

520
00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:25,400
the podcast last night, and I was like, I feel

521
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,319
so bad at this point because like I have to

522
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,079
have a hard conversation, but I understand, like these are

523
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,680
all human beings still, right, Like yeah, I'm not calling

524
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,519
out like no, and I'm not saying you are, I'm

525
00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:39,559
saying like human. That was the struggle I had last

526
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,319
night when I was when Ron and I were recording,

527
00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:44,039
because I was like, I I just I want this

528
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,559
to end, honestly, like I want I feel bad that

529
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,799
Kevin Young and that a Ja Monsa and that everyone

530
00:26:49,839 --> 00:26:52,039
else on the team has to go out just to

531
00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:55,240
really struggle in these games. I feel bad for the fans,

532
00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:57,599
I feel bad for the coaches, like I feel bad

533
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,319
for everyone. I feel bad that we have to be honest.

534
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,599
But at the same time, like this is basketball. This

535
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,519
is a part of the game, and it's it's tough

536
00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:08,400
because you took a lot of hits and you play

537
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,599
and maybe the best conference in all of college basketball.

538
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,319
But and I knew we I knew, we knew it

539
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,519
was going to be bad. I don't think we knew

540
00:27:17,599 --> 00:27:18,880
it was going to be this rough.

541
00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like when I asked that question, I do it

542
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,839
with a smile on my face, is what I'm getting at,

543
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,039
Like it's a joke, Like I can't. I don't know

544
00:27:29,079 --> 00:27:31,519
if there's anyone that watched that game is like it

545
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,599
like if it's it's it's broke ass. I mean you've

546
00:27:34,599 --> 00:27:36,640
been around your boys and like this, this is this

547
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,480
team feels broke ass right now? Sure, right, and like

548
00:27:40,759 --> 00:27:42,839
because there's really no other way to like describe it.

549
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:49,880
It's just like man like tass. I mean I could

550
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:55,839
say booty cheeks, broke booty cheeks, weak, booty cheeks. I

551
00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,640
mean it's bad, it's rough, it's rough, and so I

552
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,599
do it more so like because it made me laugh.

553
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,759
I guess I'm just trying to get away through I'm

554
00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:09,720
just trying to persevere man, trying to get through it.

555
00:28:10,319 --> 00:28:13,359
What's your message to the guys moving forward after another

556
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:13,960
tough loss.

557
00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 7: Well, my message to the guys I believe in a group.

558
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,279
You know is less than two weeks ago, we beat

559
00:28:19,319 --> 00:28:22,279
Iowa State, who is a good basketball team, one of

560
00:28:22,319 --> 00:28:24,319
the best teams in the country, and so I think, uh,

561
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,319
I think we're having I think our confidence is a

562
00:28:26,319 --> 00:28:29,000
little bit shook right now as a group, you know,

563
00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:31,119
So I just want our guys to to play with

564
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,799
more belief, inner belief, belief in themselves, belief in each other.

565
00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:39,440
In sports is you know, you have to you have

566
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,559
to manage the emotional swings of sports, right and when

567
00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:45,079
it when it's going bad, it feels like the world's

568
00:28:45,079 --> 00:28:46,720
caven in, you know. And when it goes good, it

569
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,000
feels like you're on top of the world.

570
00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:50,079
Speaker 4: And so you have to be able to manage that.

571
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,839
Speaker 7: And that's part of going through a season, especially one

572
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,799
that's filled with adversity like the one we've had this year.

573
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,640
And so I just I just want our guys to

574
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,200
continue to believe in each other and believe in themselves.

575
00:29:02,799 --> 00:29:05,839
Speaker 4: I love the comment. I think it's important. Like there's

576
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,400
only so much. I mean, we're to the point now

577
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,680
maybe as a coaching staff where it's like accountability is

578
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,799
not working. We've already tried to kind of lay the

579
00:29:13,799 --> 00:29:15,880
hammer down. It's not working. Now. These guys just don't

580
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,039
believe in themselves. We gotta we gotta instill believe in them.

581
00:29:18,039 --> 00:29:20,440
We gotta go show the highlights. We gotta go show

582
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,319
like Iowa State game. We gotta go show that Yukon

583
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,960
game coming back in the in the second half. This

584
00:29:27,079 --> 00:29:29,119
is what who you are. This is your potential, this

585
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,839
is who you're capable of being. This is your best self,

586
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,000
this is your best team, all those things right, Like,

587
00:29:36,039 --> 00:29:40,039
that's that. That's where you're at right now. You got

588
00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:42,359
to get back to the positive frame of mind so

589
00:29:43,759 --> 00:29:48,319
that I'm down with it. Look, show the highlights, Show

590
00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:53,319
what you're capable of, ceiling not floor. Go back and

591
00:29:53,599 --> 00:29:56,559
look at all the ceiling games. Go back and and

592
00:29:56,559 --> 00:30:00,480
and really enjoy. You know what you were able to accomplished,

593
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:05,640
because Joe Lunardi postgame said, look, BYU is going to

594
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,759
the tournament because of everything that they did prior to

595
00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:13,119
the last eight games or so. And that i Woa

596
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,559
State win was a really good win. It was a

597
00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:15,680
great win, and that helps.

598
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 6: Does that one still just confuse you so much?

599
00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:19,279
Speaker 4: Sure?

600
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 6: I'm I'm like the more games I watched with this

601
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,119
bou basketball team after, I'm like, how did they beat

602
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,160
Iowa State? But then they can't control the game against

603
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,279
the UCF and CINCINNATAI.

604
00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:32,559
Speaker 4: You're not even close. It's twenty two point les exactly,

605
00:30:32,599 --> 00:30:34,799
and you were down thirty versus Iowa.

606
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 6: State convincingly that wasn't control. It didn't come down to

607
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,559
the final shot, Like to your point, they controlled that game.

608
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,839
So I just look at this and I'm like, did

609
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,079
I was say, just play their worst game of the season,

610
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:49,039
and like me and my buddies could have beat that.

611
00:30:49,079 --> 00:30:55,240
I like, I'm trying to contextualize and conceptualize, is by

612
00:30:55,359 --> 00:30:59,119
you that good and they are just really shooting themselves

613
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,759
in the foot or does this be or your basketball team,

614
00:31:01,799 --> 00:31:04,880
because of the injuries, not have the capability to win

615
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,400
these games no matter what they do, And I would

616
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,279
say it was just a fluke. I I don't know

617
00:31:09,319 --> 00:31:10,400
how to contextualize that.

618
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,359
Speaker 4: It's hard. It's hard. It's hard to know. I think

619
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,559
everyone's just trying to figure out BYU right now. The

620
00:31:17,599 --> 00:31:19,759
opposing coaching stats haven't figured out.

621
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,559
Speaker 6: It feels like I wonder if I wonder if some

622
00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:25,200
of them are confused, like really, like we knew it

623
00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:26,680
was gonna be a dogfight.

624
00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 4: But like, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's a rough one.

625
00:31:30,119 --> 00:31:32,480
Let's go to break guys, We'll come back. I'm wondering.

626
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,160
My question of that is this, how would a bau

627
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,160
versus Utah basketball game in the Big tal Turner work

628
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,319
out for bo or A. Now could that juice up

629
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,160
a team looking to find its identity? Like that's kind

630
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,359
of how I'm feeling right now. It could be a

631
00:31:44,359 --> 00:31:47,640
great motivating factor to to get the most out of

632
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,720
your team. It could be a good thing. And you

633
00:31:49,759 --> 00:31:51,799
know how Brett Ormark wants to make some money. May

634
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,920
he's he's gonna have another b one somehow, some way,

635
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,000
figure out a way. The standings may may force it,

636
00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:04,000
but if I know Brett's, he's gonna try to find

637
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,319
a way to get this game in the Big twelve Tournament.

638
00:32:06,319 --> 00:32:08,079
We'll go to break guys. That was a great segment

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651
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656
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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Cougar Sports.

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Speaker 5: Here on one O three nine, ninety eight three ESPN

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The Fan, Ronald the three man Weaver here Brett always

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bringing a hammer by my side as well.

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Speaker 2: Ben Crude stepped out for a moment to be back momentarily.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you.

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Speaker 5: Band of today is Sad by xx Tanasi on rip

668
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Is it gonna be an rip to this billion men's

669
00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:33,880
basketball team?

670
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 2: There's still time left, but it's a question that I'm posing.

671
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 5: It's a it's a sad time, I think for Cougar fans,

672
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,000
the amount of text messages that I got Brett, you

673
00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:41,240
know this.

674
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Speaker 2: I take the train to and from work.

675
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 5: And I saw people watching the game after my Cougar

676
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,359
basketball pre game shot, I took the late train, so

677
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,960
I'm watching on a computer like everybody else. And I'm

678
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,480
watching a bunch of people going back to a bunch

679
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,960
of students that take you know, the classes in Salt Lake.

680
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,799
Speaker 2: They're watching it on their front of the laptop. And

681
00:33:57,839 --> 00:34:00,839
the frustration that I am seeing like throwing their hands up.

682
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,039
One kid threw his phone, one kid slapped his laptop.

683
00:34:03,079 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 5: And that's felt bad, Like I just really felt sad

684
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,440
more for the fan base of Right, because I get

685
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,039
paid whether they win or lose. That's that's that's that

686
00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:11,639
might sound like a private thing, but that's the truth.

687
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:13,760
My job is to be objective. But you're seeing these

688
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,920
people like other stuff of like you know, why why

689
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,880
don't they care? Like I could do better than this right?

690
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,679
And you know you can't. Fans, just to let you.

691
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 2: Know you can, like I have to keep otherwise God

692
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,880
do what right? So I have to keep the checks

693
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:26,360
and balances.

694
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 5: But I do understand the frustration of what this year

695
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,920
was anticipated. To be in the injuries. Injuries do play

696
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,800
a team. I mean, I go back to the analogy.

697
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: Bright.

698
00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:37,159
Speaker 5: You probably are like, yes, you know, if people are

699
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:39,159
tired of seeing Golden State lose, people don't want to

700
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:41,559
see him lose like that. But the Kevin Douran Achilles

701
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:44,280
to Klay Thompson acl like that was the reason. I mean,

702
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,119
you saw when Kevin Durant was back in the game

703
00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:48,719
before the injury. He was three of three in like

704
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,000
five minutes, and the crowd was like silence. That's what

705
00:34:51,039 --> 00:34:52,960
happens when you have a full squad and you have

706
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:56,639
great players, great talent. People feared and I gently did

707
00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:59,000
believe at the beginning of the season that people feared

708
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,039
by basketball. Rightfully so. But with everything up and down,

709
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,599
you know, it's a wounded dog and people see blood

710
00:35:04,599 --> 00:35:07,440
in the water. And look, it's like in a UFC fight, right, Brett,

711
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,760
You've watched the UFC. A coach gonna say, hey, he's hurt,

712
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,880
Hey he's hurt, do this, do this. And I don't

713
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,079
fault coaches for doing I don't fault them for attacking

714
00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:16,679
the weakness on the BU team. They're gonna do that

715
00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:19,039
anyway to win. But when it's more prevalent, when it's

716
00:35:19,079 --> 00:35:22,239
injury prone. And this is where I go with my statement, Brett,

717
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,719
and I'll get your thoughts on this before we get

718
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,760
into the rest of the sound. I think you need

719
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,079
more guys like Richie and and it doesn't necessarily need

720
00:35:28,119 --> 00:35:30,239
to be returned missionaries that but it needs to be

721
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,840
BYU guys in this program because you saw what happen.

722
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,599
And by the way, I just want to paint this picture.

723
00:35:35,639 --> 00:35:38,480
You know, Sean walkerfkssel dot com was talking about it.

724
00:35:38,519 --> 00:35:42,079
B Yu was already struggling at some of these things

725
00:35:42,199 --> 00:35:44,760
with Richie. It just now is putting more on notice

726
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,599
because you can't mask that because of how now you

727
00:35:46,599 --> 00:35:48,480
can guard, So just want to make sure that it's

728
00:35:48,519 --> 00:35:50,800
put out there. They still were struggling defensively, it just

729
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,320
wasn't as bad with the top king on the on

730
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,079
the floor. With that being said, Richie was it was

731
00:35:56,119 --> 00:35:59,480
the hard foundation of this team. And when Richie got beat,

732
00:35:59,519 --> 00:36:00,800
it's like to but come on for the Church of

733
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,280
East Christ when the foundation went to crumble, I believe

734
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,199
that's exactly what happened. So next season, when you go

735
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,079
into that, you need to figure out.

736
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:08,639
Speaker 2: Who's the heartbeat.

737
00:36:08,679 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 5: Is it going to be a Dawson Baker, Brooks Barr

738
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,840
coming off of a mission. Is it going to be

739
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,800
Brodie calls Austin coming back. You need guys that have

740
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,599
wanted to and that b YU has been their passion

741
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,320
that can be that voice I'm sorry, like they have

742
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,960
an emotional connection to it where it means more. We're

743
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,480
gonna ask us to Darnell Dixon later in the last

744
00:36:26,559 --> 00:36:29,239
hour in the last segment. But Brett got it, like

745
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,559
myself right when I got baptized into the church, it

746
00:36:31,559 --> 00:36:33,840
was either you of I or b YU. Although I

747
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,079
was torn between because I grew up with both, there

748
00:36:36,159 --> 00:36:40,480
was still something about BYU. Because I was baptized, I

749
00:36:40,519 --> 00:36:42,639
spent you know, six years at being a member, Like

750
00:36:42,679 --> 00:36:44,679
it was connection to that way of like I really

751
00:36:44,679 --> 00:36:47,159
want to get into this university. Well, it's the same

752
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,760
I feel factor with those that are that are coming

753
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,639
into the program, are playing. It's nothing against it is

754
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,800
nothing against Rob. But you're asking young guys and also

755
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,440
that are coming here to play and develop and might

756
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,400
not have that other connection where you know it might

757
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,119
matter and it shouldn't matter when it comes to the

758
00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:04,360
game of athletics. But at BYU, I keep telling people this,

759
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,519
things are different. You can't just show up and want

760
00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:09,360
to play and then keep moving on. It doesn't work

761
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,679
that way. That's why they just don't take anybody. It's

762
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,639
not that way. In I think that's what has happened

763
00:37:14,679 --> 00:37:17,320
is I don't think necessarily it's a bad basketball team

764
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,880
as a whole, are bad people or a bad culture.

765
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,599
I just think that foundation and that centerstone piece is

766
00:37:23,639 --> 00:37:26,480
now gone, and I think it's showing its face. But

767
00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:27,800
I know that they can fix it and get it

768
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,360
right as they go into March Madison next season.

769
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on that.

770
00:37:33,199 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean the good news is like, you got

771
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,719
a great head coach, you have great recruiting class coming in.

772
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,000
Eric Meeka tweeted out something yesterday that I thought was

773
00:37:44,199 --> 00:37:48,199
very insightful and very helpful to this conversation. He said,

774
00:37:49,079 --> 00:37:51,079
I think what a lot of college fan bases are

775
00:37:51,079 --> 00:37:53,320
seeing and feeling is a shift from college sports being

776
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,119
more about the name on the front of the jersey

777
00:37:55,639 --> 00:37:57,559
to the name on the back of the jersey. It's

778
00:37:57,639 --> 00:37:59,920
not all on the athletes, though, it's just what an

779
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,039
inherently comes with professionalism. That's why top priority must be

780
00:38:04,119 --> 00:38:08,719
a retention and continuity. Turnover is killing programs and killing

781
00:38:09,159 --> 00:38:15,239
fan interest. Which is really interesting because there's always this

782
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:21,159
conversation of the NBA versus college basketball, and I think

783
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,800
this year college basketball is actually at an all time high.

784
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,519
I think I don't know what the numbers are, but

785
00:38:27,559 --> 00:38:30,159
I think NBA compared to college I feel like, at

786
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,360
least when I pay attention to like the national shows

787
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,840
and podcasts and stuff, college basketball is actually being discussed

788
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,679
more on those shows than is the NBA. But I

789
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,639
do think what Eric Mika is saying is true. I

790
00:38:43,639 --> 00:38:46,519
think this year is an anomaly because you have so

791
00:38:46,639 --> 00:38:51,079
many stars in college basketball. But to Eric's point, every

792
00:38:51,159 --> 00:38:55,079
year you have a new team, and it's so hard

793
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,400
for fans to keep up with who's the player, who's

794
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,440
this guy, what's happening With the portal college football, it's

795
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,199
a lot easier because you can't you have to at

796
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,840
least stay in college for longer. Basketball is a whole

797
00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:12,239
different ballgame. I love this point about though, that Eric

798
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,960
talks about the college sports have shifted from being more

799
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,639
about the name on the front of the jerseys and

800
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,760
the name on the back of the jerseys because that

801
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,519
throws me back to the movie Miracle. I actually watched

802
00:39:23,519 --> 00:39:26,199
that a couple of weeks ago after the USA beat Canada.

803
00:39:26,639 --> 00:39:28,800
But it's valid. And we talked about this a little

804
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,000
bit with Bruce Branch yesterday, Like he's just a guy

805
00:39:31,039 --> 00:39:34,039
who seems like, at this point in his career, like

806
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:39,559
basketball means so much to him, and I don't know

807
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,800
where I feel like that falls with this team. I

808
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,760
know a lot of people want to say there's no

809
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:50,000
effort on this team. I do think a lot of

810
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,360
these guys are trying. But yesterday my brother and I

811
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,639
were having this conversation. He's on a mission in California

812
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,239
right now, and he was like, man, it's just so

813
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,440
hard getting up every day just to be rejected. And

814
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,159
I was like, man, that's that's so real, and that

815
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,079
doesn't just change when you come home from a mission,

816
00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:11,519
because that's like you're just you're gonna deal with rejection

817
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,800
and hardship and adversity your whole life. And I look

818
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,199
at this bou basketball team, and I know it's really

819
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,119
easy to say, well, why don't these guys care? I

820
00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:24,320
think a lot of them do care. I think it's

821
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,519
really hard though, when you don't have a whole lot

822
00:40:26,519 --> 00:40:30,320
of options of who can play. And to your point,

823
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,719
things were not perfect before Richie Saunders went down. It's

824
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,760
not like they were the number one defensive team in

825
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,679
the Big twelve before Richie went, and then he went

826
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,559
and now here we are, b Yu, this whole season

827
00:40:41,639 --> 00:40:46,599
has not been a perfect defensive team. However, BYU could

828
00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:49,360
get away with not being great defensively because they were

829
00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:56,760
ridiculous offense. I exactly, you stretched the floor so much more.

830
00:40:57,199 --> 00:41:00,400
And like I said to Ben earlier, a lot of

831
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:05,039
these defenses they're saying, make Hedem beat us, make Canard

832
00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:08,360
beat us, make Alexi and Hylom, make those guys beat us.

833
00:41:08,599 --> 00:41:11,440
We're gonna sell out to stop Rob and AJ and

834
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,639
more so AJ. We'll let everybody else do their thing.

835
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,639
If we can sell out and leave other guys open

836
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,960
and those guys beat us, then so be it. But

837
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,599
we're not changing our game plan to match that. And

838
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:28,079
so honestly, Ron, I know there's so much fan conversation

839
00:41:28,119 --> 00:41:30,280
about effort, and these guys look like they don't care.

840
00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:33,679
I do think there are some guys who care less

841
00:41:33,679 --> 00:41:37,039
than others, But I also think this team has been

842
00:41:37,199 --> 00:41:40,760
decimated and once you lose enough games, I think it

843
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:46,000
almost becomes like a mentality thing where even if you

844
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:51,760
have enough talent, you've been smacked down enough times that like,

845
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,159
if you don't get on the right track perfectly to

846
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,800
start a game and you have to play from behind

847
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,039
from the eight ball the whole way through, it just

848
00:42:01,199 --> 00:42:05,079
makes it really, really tough. So are there guys who

849
00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:09,119
don't care? Yeah, is that the sole reason BYU basketball

850
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:12,320
is losing games? No, It's a mixture of things. It's

851
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,639
a compilation of things. But at this point, I think

852
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,039
BYU has stood up to be smacked down enough times

853
00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:22,039
by the ucfs and the Cincinnatis of the world that

854
00:42:22,119 --> 00:42:26,719
I think it's gonna be really tough going forward. However,

855
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,119
what do we say anything can happen in March. It's March.

856
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,320
The madness is ready to be unleashed. I think Ben

857
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,039
made a very profound point. If this BYU basketball team

858
00:42:39,559 --> 00:42:42,440
finds a way to beat Utah, if they find a

859
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,280
win a way to get wins in the Big Twelve tournament,

860
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,360
that could do enough. Because to me, it's not a

861
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,920
question about effort. The number one question is do you

862
00:42:53,079 --> 00:42:57,320
believe that this team as it stands today has enough

863
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:02,079
talent and firepower to win game going forward, and then

864
00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:04,320
we can have the question about effort on top of that.

865
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:09,000
But baseline talent and firepower, do they have it and

866
00:43:09,039 --> 00:43:12,599
frankly run that's a question where I'm not sure. I

867
00:43:12,639 --> 00:43:14,480
think there's a lot of fanswers say yes, they have it.

868
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,239
I don't know that they have it enough to compete

869
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,480
in Big Twelve play. Maybe it'll win a first round

870
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,639
tournament game. I know they beat Iowa State, but I

871
00:43:24,679 --> 00:43:28,239
don't know that that one fully proved everything. It's a

872
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:33,800
really really nuanced, interesting conversation with this bou basketball team.

873
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,079
When you have to balance effort, firepower and talent.

874
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I no, you bring up a good point that

875
00:43:40,679 --> 00:43:43,559
just started making me think at some point, when do

876
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:44,599
you run out of bodies?

877
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 5: And you saw that last night. And look, these are

878
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,559
all divisional and basketball programs. A lot of people how

879
00:43:49,559 --> 00:43:51,480
did you lose it as team? It's a division and

880
00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:54,400
basketball program. When I'm hinting gat just to break it

881
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,880
down and explain so you understand, I'm coming from bau

882
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:57,679
Versus Ducune.

883
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 2: You know Mark Pope's last season. It's a division in

884
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:01,519
basketball program.

885
00:44:01,559 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter what conference and that, and people are

886
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,159
gonna say no, like it's one of what remember when Virginia. Look,

887
00:44:06,559 --> 00:44:09,440
Virginia lost to the number sixteen seed. Even if BYU

888
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,880
basketball loses in the first round in NCAA tournament, drops

889
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,519
in the seating or whatever, losing the first round of

890
00:44:14,519 --> 00:44:16,840
Big Talk tournament, I still view, Brennan, You tell me

891
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,559
if I'm wrong. I still view Virginia being a number

892
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:21,119
one seed that season and what they did and some

893
00:44:21,159 --> 00:44:23,679
people thought they were gonna win a national championship losing

894
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,119
to U NBC as a bigger bust on what has happened.

895
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,239
We've never had it. You never had a sixteen seed

896
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,519
beat a one seed. But that brings up and proves

897
00:44:31,639 --> 00:44:34,639
my point. Any basketball team can beat any program on

898
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,000
any given day if you don't chill up.

899
00:44:36,519 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: Happens.

900
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 5: It happens all the time. I've seen it multiple multiple times.

901
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:43,960
I've been on teams that have done that. I've also

902
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,679
been to the receiving team of like, how do we

903
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,679
just get our you know a you know what what

904
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:48,320
just kicked?

905
00:44:48,519 --> 00:44:49,559
Speaker 2: It happens. It's a part of it.

906
00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 5: But I agree, the bodies is what I'm concerned about.

907
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,440
In how deep can that go? Look at Cincinnati is

908
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,039
a good basketball team. And I've been saying this for

909
00:44:59,079 --> 00:45:01,320
a while. A lot of these teams in the Big twelve,

910
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,920
I think can compete in the ACC, compete in the SEC.

911
00:45:04,159 --> 00:45:06,159
People knowe, Bron, you're crazy. I don't think I am

912
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,519
like I don't. I mean, you see guys coming from

913
00:45:08,519 --> 00:45:11,639
Baylor going to Cincinnati. From you see if going to Cincinnati,

914
00:45:11,679 --> 00:45:13,440
it's it's a part of it. Rob even coming from

915
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:17,519
Baylor to BYU. It's so tough to play in this conference.

916
00:45:17,559 --> 00:45:20,000
I really believe if this conference split and went ways,

917
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,079
it would be at the top of the WCC for sure.

918
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,960
With the likes of Gonzaga, it would be in the

919
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,639
middle of the pack. With the SEC. I think you

920
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,760
competed in the Big Ten just the physicality. Other leagues

921
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,480
aren't as physical as the Big twelve. And it's a

922
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,880
different style. And you have to give Cincinnati credit playing

923
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,360
and peaking at the right time six of its last seven.

924
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,480
Brett bou And now has lost eight of its last eleven,

925
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,360
and a lot a lot is not going right for BYU.

926
00:45:43,519 --> 00:45:45,679
But to Ben's question of the day, which is could

927
00:45:45,679 --> 00:45:50,360
a potential matchup with Utah in the Big twelve tournament.

928
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:51,679
Speaker 2: Could that spark BYU?

929
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 5: To give you my flat out answer, Brett, Yes, I

930
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,480
believe it could actually robbery games things like that, Richie A.

931
00:45:58,639 --> 00:46:00,599
It sounds like per Spenser Linchway had him on the show,

932
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,599
was gearing up for a surgery. Don't know if he

933
00:46:02,679 --> 00:46:04,760
had that surgery last week, but if he did, and

934
00:46:05,039 --> 00:46:06,679
he plans to take this trip. And the reason why

935
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,159
I bring that up is he's a senior. He's not

936
00:46:08,199 --> 00:46:10,480
gonna play again. He's gonna be honored on Saturday in

937
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,000
the Texas Tech Game. If he's making these trips, Brad

938
00:46:13,039 --> 00:46:14,320
And I don't know how that works when you get

939
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,480
surgery on an AC.

940
00:46:15,639 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 2: I'm not a doc. I would have to ask those

941
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,519
who are in charge. But could that help?

942
00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:22,599
Speaker 5: Could the guy that you know is the heartbeat of

943
00:46:22,639 --> 00:46:25,280
the team, could that help spark having him at every game?

944
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,880
Could that motivate you? Okay, they got a game first round,

945
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,800
then they get the second. They end up in the quarterfinal.

946
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,480
Who knows what momentum they could have and what they

947
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,639
could take and could that help them in hard manus?

948
00:46:34,639 --> 00:46:35,119
Speaker 2: If verywell?

949
00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 1: Could?

950
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,559
Speaker 5: Or it could be just the opposite and Okay, nothing changed,

951
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:40,440
it doesn't hurt. But I do believe maybe playing a

952
00:46:40,519 --> 00:46:42,639
team that you don't want to lose to because it's

953
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,440
bigger than just a Big twelve tournament, it matters so

954
00:46:45,519 --> 00:46:47,880
much in the terms of state of Utah into the programs.

955
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,239
I believe that could kick you into your butt into shape,

956
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:53,360
but only for that game. I'm not gonna take it

957
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,679
further than that, but I think just for that game

958
00:46:55,679 --> 00:46:58,039
it could kick you into shape to get things right,

959
00:46:58,079 --> 00:46:59,679
to get that one win. I don't know if I

960
00:46:59,679 --> 00:47:02,400
can go further than that, but BYU gearing up to

961
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,519
play Utah that were the case, I believe that can

962
00:47:04,599 --> 00:47:08,159
motivate them just for the Tuesday next Tuesday, March.

963
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:14,079
Speaker 6: Tenth, I do agree. If BYU finds a way to

964
00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:20,599
beat Utah in that first round game, that absolutely energizes them. However,

965
00:47:21,559 --> 00:47:25,679
BYU basketball, I believe has lost eight of their last

966
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,199
eleven games, also true all Big twelve games. And if

967
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:34,079
you'll remember that Utah game that was at Utah, that

968
00:47:34,119 --> 00:47:36,360
one was a dog fight for BYU. The one improvo

969
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,239
was a lot easier. This is going to be a neutral.

970
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,119
Speaker 2: Sort very true site on a.

971
00:47:41,039 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 6: Neutral court, so and to be fair, Ron, Like, I

972
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,159
think Utah wants it more than BYU does at this point.

973
00:47:49,519 --> 00:47:52,039
I think Utah believes it more than BYU does at

974
00:47:52,039 --> 00:47:55,440
this point. And also, let's be honest, it means more

975
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,920
to Utah than it does to BYU at this point,

976
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,599
because right now, Utah is not really playing for an

977
00:48:01,679 --> 00:48:04,960
NCAA tournament seed. I mean they would be if they

978
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,159
went on to win the Big Twelve tournament. Obviously they'd

979
00:48:07,199 --> 00:48:09,519
get the auto bit. I don't think that'll happen. But

980
00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:12,880
you know what would be a super Bowl for Utah fans.

981
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,159
Hey Man, BYU was down, we kicked him when they

982
00:48:17,159 --> 00:48:19,639
were down, and we beat the number one overall pick

983
00:48:20,159 --> 00:48:24,239
of our rival. That would mean everything to the universe,

984
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,800
especially coming off the rough season that they've had this year.

985
00:48:29,039 --> 00:48:32,639
And let's be real about Utah. I mean, let's be

986
00:48:32,679 --> 00:48:36,079
real about the Big Twelve. The biggest issue in the

987
00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:38,599
Big Twelve is not who can score the most points,

988
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,920
it's who can play the best defense. Everybody in the

989
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,119
Big Twelve can score. I gave you the numbers a

990
00:48:44,159 --> 00:48:46,960
couple of weeks ago. Everyone in the like the number

991
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,639
one team I think in the Big Twelve last year

992
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,840
scoring wise, would have been like sixth or seventh your

993
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,320
average in the Big Twelve this year. Everybody can score.

994
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,639
It's a matter of who can play defense. And look,

995
00:48:59,679 --> 00:49:02,239
I know why you can score. I don't know that

996
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,559
they can play defense, which is why I feel if

997
00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:08,840
Bou matches up with Utah, I'll never pick Utah to

998
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,599
win any game ever, even if the Martians have the

999
00:49:11,639 --> 00:49:15,519
death ray pointed at Earth. But if you're asking me

1000
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:17,360
to bad money on it, I'm pleading the fifth on

1001
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:18,559
that one because.

1002
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 5: I dcason even if the Martians had the death being

1003
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,960
pointed at or shout out the Max Kellerman iguadala that

1004
00:49:26,119 --> 00:49:29,320
bre Is Bred is saying by you still, But yeah,

1005
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,519
this is why you don't go down the dark desert highway.

1006
00:49:31,519 --> 00:49:34,119
Speaker 2: As g Man says. It won't make you any type

1007
00:49:34,119 --> 00:49:35,199
of cheddar anyway.

1008
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,519
Speaker 5: But no, Yeah, Bred brings up a very good point

1009
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,639
I could see, and with just with how things have

1010
00:49:40,679 --> 00:49:43,000
been a struggle, Utah very much to win this game.

1011
00:49:43,039 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 2: There are a lot of teams right now. But you

1012
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:45,320
hope that's not the case.

1013
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 5: You hope that Look, I can't believe these words are

1014
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:49,639
coming out of my mouth, but I'm saying it, and

1015
00:49:49,679 --> 00:49:50,480
you have to be this way.

1016
00:49:50,519 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 2: This is the objective part.

1017
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 5: You hope that as a fan and you are looking

1018
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,239
as a media member of if they beat Texas Tech,

1019
00:49:57,559 --> 00:50:00,280
a top team, could that give you a had a

1020
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:01,039
bit of momentum?

1021
00:50:01,079 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 2: Could that then you play Tuesday? How could that?

1022
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,639
Speaker 6: How big of an if is that?

1023
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,119
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, if I'm gonna be honest, fifty

1024
00:50:09,119 --> 00:50:12,000
percent because I mean both teams have equal priser. Both

1025
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,159
teams have fifty percent chance of winning, like yeah, with

1026
00:50:14,199 --> 00:50:15,320
everything taking it to occur.

1027
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 2: And look the reason why I say fifty to fifty.

1028
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:18,599
That's the objective down the way.

1029
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,199
Speaker 5: Both teams have to go play Texas Tech can come

1030
00:50:21,199 --> 00:50:23,280
out and have a bad shooting day, and even with

1031
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,559
the lack of defense from BYU, if they're if they

1032
00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:28,679
are missing shots still and BYU is able to go out.

1033
00:50:28,519 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 2: There and shoot a high percentage shot.

1034
00:50:30,519 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 5: You know, if they're just on one a cap and

1035
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,320
you have no idea what it's gonnacur, it's gonna be

1036
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,280
Senior Night, It'll be at the Marriott Center. They have

1037
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,159
to go on the road to win. Now, with that

1038
00:50:37,199 --> 00:50:39,280
being said, I am a logical man, Brett. You know

1039
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,480
that's the objective that's the ridden part down the middle right,

1040
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,760
the obviously objective part where I'm thinking logically is this

1041
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,079
team just lost to TCU. It just got embarrassed. It

1042
00:50:50,159 --> 00:50:53,199
did not like losing, and they don't want to lose.

1043
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,719
They don't want to drop two to go into big

1044
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,559
teal turners. So even without both teams, without their best players,

1045
00:50:58,719 --> 00:50:59,639
you best believe they're.

1046
00:50:59,519 --> 00:51:02,199
Speaker 2: Gonna sell out on AJ on Saturday. They are. They're

1047
00:51:02,199 --> 00:51:03,519
gonna say we'll sell out.

1048
00:51:03,559 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 5: And if Rob Wright has fifty or anybody else on

1049
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,559
the bench, or if Mahilo or Alexi, they'll live with that.

1050
00:51:08,639 --> 00:51:11,679
I guarantee that that's exactly what grahanma Castle is gonna do.

1051
00:51:12,159 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 2: AJ is gonna be heavily on the scout. They're gonna

1052
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,039
have them circle. Remember that when we were growing up

1053
00:51:16,039 --> 00:51:16,559
bread where we.

1054
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,559
Speaker 5: Drew the little bubble and then you put sub bubbles

1055
00:51:18,639 --> 00:51:22,320
is AJD Bonsa and then sub bubbles AJD Bonsa, AJD Bonsa,

1056
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,679
AJD Bonsa, and then maybe one of the bubbles, says

1057
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,800
Rob Right, I'm serious. I'm not joking when I say that.

1058
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,280
That's the logical part in my brain. But we will see.

1059
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,119
We don't know, but we will find out momentarily, But

1060
00:51:33,159 --> 00:51:36,519
what say you, Kugarnation does a potential matchup against Utah

1061
00:51:36,559 --> 00:51:38,239
and everything that it means more than just the Big

1062
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,280
twelve and the tournament and losing to the state of

1063
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,559
Utah and the rivalry. Could that give you the butt

1064
00:51:42,599 --> 00:51:44,800
kick you need? You ever been walking too slow and

1065
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,559
someone you know gives you a little butt kicker, pushes

1066
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:48,159
you a little bit? Okay, okay, I'm moving, I'm moving.

1067
00:51:48,519 --> 00:51:50,519
That might help BYU we will see or could it

1068
00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:52,639
be Saturday? I like the look of what's in front

1069
00:51:52,639 --> 00:51:54,679
of you, not necessarily looking the head. Could a game

1070
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,440
against Texas Tech give you that motivation to take into

1071
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,519
the tournament? I believe it can, because as having played

1072
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:02,840
the next game is the most important game and it's

1073
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,360
another top tier matchup. You get that win, that's another

1074
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,239
top fifteen win. You can't argue that. So we'll see that.

1075
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:10,639
Let's finish up a couple of sound bites and then

1076
00:52:10,639 --> 00:52:12,639
we'll go to break. Brad has to take off and

1077
00:52:12,639 --> 00:52:14,239
then how Vic come in with me. We'll get into

1078
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,679
some Aaron Roddocks sound on the flip, but before we do,

1079
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,840
let's get back to the sound. Kevin Cincinnati struggle Cincinnati

1080
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,280
struggles going west. Does that bother you guys coming east

1081
00:52:24,559 --> 00:52:27,559
to do this swing against Cincinnati and West Virginia. Do

1082
00:52:27,559 --> 00:52:29,119
you guys like this this road trip that you have

1083
00:52:29,159 --> 00:52:29,400
to go on.

1084
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,039
Speaker 7: Yeah, it is not an easy trip, for sure. You know,

1085
00:52:34,039 --> 00:52:36,199
we were fortunate enough to split on the trip last

1086
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,400
year and that's why, you know, to that question, I

1087
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,199
think you know, in this league in particular, the margins

1088
00:52:42,199 --> 00:52:45,559
are so slim, you know, so you know, we we

1089
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,599
Cincinnati played a fantastic basketball game tonight. Got to give

1090
00:52:48,639 --> 00:52:50,599
them all the credit in the world. So it makes

1091
00:52:50,599 --> 00:52:53,320
the West Virginia lost thing even more because we actually,

1092
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,280
you know, we played a decent game there and then

1093
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,039
had a chance to win and then let that one

1094
00:52:57,079 --> 00:52:59,599
get away from us. So in this league, man, that

1095
00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:02,880
you can't you can't. You have to capitalize when you

1096
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,480
have the opportunity. But to the specific question about this trip, yeah,

1097
00:53:06,519 --> 00:53:09,000
it's a difficult trip, but you know sports are difficult.

1098
00:53:09,039 --> 00:53:10,639
You got to still be able to be at your

1099
00:53:10,639 --> 00:53:12,039
best when your best is needed.

1100
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,519
Speaker 5: A good point from Kevin right there, you still have

1101
00:53:14,559 --> 00:53:17,320
to be at your best even when you know your

1102
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,360
when your best is needed. This road trip is tough.

1103
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,360
I'm not gonna say and go into the ups and downs.

1104
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,239
Oh it's cursing. I no, it's just it's a Big

1105
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,599
Twelve trip that's tough. It's the same thing when teams

1106
00:53:26,639 --> 00:53:28,719
travel to play b Yu and Utah Bratt and they

1107
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,280
don't win either game or they split. Remember Kansas last

1108
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,920
year they lost both of those games. It's tough to

1109
00:53:34,039 --> 00:53:35,920
win in the Big Twelve. And when you have to

1110
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,000
take a road trip to to Utah and West or

1111
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,599
out East or wherever you have to go, it's it's

1112
00:53:40,639 --> 00:53:41,159
not easy.

1113
00:53:41,519 --> 00:53:42,559
Speaker 2: It is not easy at all.

1114
00:53:42,599 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 5: Remember when Oklahoma was in the conference to what is

1115
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,360
it three years ago when BYU and Mark Pope took

1116
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,679
that trip out and they were like four people sick,

1117
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,039
like Fos was sick playing or Watermell was out.

1118
00:53:52,639 --> 00:53:53,639
Speaker 2: I can't remember the other people.

1119
00:53:53,639 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 5: I can't remember if Richie was out, but everybody had

1120
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,280
the stomach bug and they had to go to Oklahoma

1121
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:58,960
and then West Virginia. That was a tough road trip

1122
00:53:59,079 --> 00:54:01,599
and it didn't work out the best. That's what happens.

1123
00:54:02,039 --> 00:54:04,039
Crazy to think that ba he was playing Jeremiah Fears

1124
00:54:04,079 --> 00:54:06,239
back then. But the point what the point about what

1125
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,559
I'm bringing up is trip Big twelve road trips are

1126
00:54:09,559 --> 00:54:10,920
tough to win on the road, and we have to

1127
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,159
play two of them going to the East coast. It's

1128
00:54:13,199 --> 00:54:15,119
tough to be Cincinnati in their building, they play well,

1129
00:54:15,159 --> 00:54:18,000
it's tough to be West Virginia. It just didn't work

1130
00:54:18,039 --> 00:54:20,199
out a couple of last things. And then we'll get

1131
00:54:20,199 --> 00:54:22,639
to break. Let's switch things up. I'm gonna be jumping

1132
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,880
just a little bit. Let's go to number nine.

1133
00:54:26,039 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 2: Kevin.

1134
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 5: You've seen Danta Thomas over the last two years, just

1135
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,119
your thoughts and not having to face him anymore.

1136
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:33,039
Speaker 4: Good seniors.

1137
00:54:33,079 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 7: He done, He's I know, he's a tough competitor, you know,

1138
00:54:35,639 --> 00:54:37,719
like him and Jizzre both killed this year last year.

1139
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,320
He is still scarred from that. But he's a he's

1140
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,280
a tough player, you know, like his motor.

1141
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:44,039
Speaker 4: I thought was really.

1142
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,079
Speaker 7: Impressed at the night offensively, you know, just chasing him

1143
00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:48,480
around all those screens.

1144
00:54:48,159 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 4: And so forth.

1145
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 7: But you know, that's a that's a luxury that that

1146
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,360
West has been able to get, you know, some continuity,

1147
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,559
which is tough in this day and age. So I

1148
00:54:58,559 --> 00:55:00,840
think that that's one of the reasons why I think

1149
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,079
they're catching a stride right now, because there's just you know,

1150
00:55:04,119 --> 00:55:06,440
there's familiarity, which I think is really important.

1151
00:55:07,079 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, him and Gisel James, those guys Hurt Bau and

1152
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:11,639
Nidia Thomas.

1153
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 2: Kevin young little joke. I cut it up, but the

1154
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,599
interaction was to see a senior good. You know, don't

1155
00:55:16,599 --> 00:55:17,440
want to see him anymore.

1156
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 5: Coaches say it all the time, but no, Dande Thomas

1157
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,880
is a problem, Gisel James is a problem.

1158
00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 2: This is a good Cincinnati team. I always felt like

1159
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:24,320
they were.

1160
00:55:24,159 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 5: A dark horse where if they got hot at the

1161
00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:28,760
right time, and look they are. Kevin was asked previously

1162
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,199
the question before if their NCAA tournament team. Brett, I'll

1163
00:55:32,199 --> 00:55:34,559
get your take on that is uc NCAA tournament team.

1164
00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:36,760
It's really tough, but I said this all the time.

1165
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,159
With BYU having formerly been the top twenty five and

1166
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,280
a quah one matchup for them, this has giving people

1167
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,039
the resume to get into the NCAA tournament, UCF West

1168
00:55:45,079 --> 00:55:46,360
Virginia and now Cincinnati.

1169
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:46,679
Speaker 2: Brett.

1170
00:55:47,639 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, so right now, if you go look at bracketology,

1171
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:56,800
Cincinnati is the eighth or the fourth team in the

1172
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,119
next four outs. There's the first four out, then there's

1173
00:55:59,159 --> 00:56:01,639
the next four out. Cincinnati is that team, so they

1174
00:56:01,639 --> 00:56:06,840
would be technically the seventy sixth ranked team. And let

1175
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,119
me go, they did a little right up on so

1176
00:56:10,159 --> 00:56:13,639
that they have like a tiers of men's bubble watch

1177
00:56:13,679 --> 00:56:17,440
for the n CAA tournament. They listed Cincinnati under teams

1178
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,840
with work to do Now this game was This article

1179
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:27,559
was written after Cincinnati had beat BYU. They're still to

1180
00:56:27,559 --> 00:56:30,639
outside the top fifty and resume average. The rest of

1181
00:56:30,639 --> 00:56:33,519
the bubble is generally around number forty five. The consensus

1182
00:56:33,519 --> 00:56:36,000
model sets there at large chances in the mid twenty

1183
00:56:36,039 --> 00:56:39,199
percent chance. At this point, their case heavily relies on

1184
00:56:39,519 --> 00:56:42,360
Iowa State win, Kansas win, and now the BYU win,

1185
00:56:42,599 --> 00:56:45,239
but their recent hot streak sets up a big regular

1186
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,719
season finale against TCU. You and I had this conversation

1187
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:54,199
last night. It is a tough conversation with the bubble

1188
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:58,599
and the NCBLEA tournament because you're comparing who the team

1189
00:56:58,679 --> 00:57:02,280
is today versus who does their resume? Say that there

1190
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:06,000
are and it.

1191
00:57:05,039 --> 00:57:05,559
Speaker 4: Is it a joke?

1192
00:57:05,639 --> 00:57:07,559
Speaker 2: Bread, Is it a joke?

1193
00:57:08,119 --> 00:57:13,199
Speaker 6: You're about to say, like some people's resumes are some Yeah,

1194
00:57:13,199 --> 00:57:15,280
some people's resumes as a joke, but like who they

1195
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,079
are today is not a joke.

1196
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:17,599
Speaker 4: Agree.

1197
00:57:17,639 --> 00:57:21,679
Speaker 6: And if I'm hiring someone for a job, I don't

1198
00:57:21,719 --> 00:57:24,119
care that you were employee of the month six straight

1199
00:57:24,199 --> 00:57:26,039
months at your job a decade ago.

1200
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:26,559
Speaker 4: Agree.

1201
00:57:26,599 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 6: What I care about is when I'm hiring you today,

1202
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:34,199
what kind of employee are you now? Both things matter, obviously,

1203
00:57:34,559 --> 00:57:37,679
But I think when you look at Cincinnati's top wins

1204
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,719
and you realize who they've beat, you realize the hot

1205
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,360
streak that they're on, and then on top of that,

1206
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,039
you look at not only the fact that they beat BYU,

1207
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:50,840
but they held AJ Debonta to a rough performance. Again,

1208
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,360
we're gonna be We're gonna look like big twelve homers.

1209
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,760
But I think Cincinnati, given who they are today, I

1210
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,320
do think they should be a turn.

1211
00:58:01,039 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.

1212
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 5: I think Cincinnati after that went over by you know

1213
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,239
where they're trending. I put him as the first four

1214
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,400
to play in even if that means they have to play, and.

1215
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 2: I do believe that they have to play.

1216
00:58:10,519 --> 00:58:12,039
Speaker 5: Let's finish up the last couple of sound bites with

1217
00:58:12,119 --> 00:58:15,280
Kevin Young, AJ, debons and Alexi coaches AJ with sixteen

1218
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,000
points off the bench, excuse me, AJ with sixteen points

1219
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,719
off the bench, the guy next to you that was big.

1220
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,199
Then a guy like Dominic Diamande comes in and steps

1221
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,320
up when the guys are around you are doing it

1222
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:24,840
off the bench.

1223
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:32,079
Speaker 2: Does that boost to give you fresh legs? Oh yeah, definitely,

1224
00:58:32,119 --> 00:58:33,960
especially with Alex like lights out.

1225
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,199
Speaker 9: Y'all been seeing it for the past couple of games.

1226
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,719
When Richie got injured, he has, you know, stepped up

1227
00:58:38,719 --> 00:58:41,039
into a bigger role, and dom I mean he's We've

1228
00:58:41,079 --> 00:58:43,480
been loving his energy since day one. Obviously haven't got

1229
00:58:43,519 --> 00:58:45,519
to showcase it a lot, you know, not playing, but

1230
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,960
I mean tonight you showed it was Guarden full court.

1231
00:58:48,199 --> 00:58:49,840
I think he got a couple of rebounds, but his

1232
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:50,880
energy is just different.

1233
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 5: Before we go into the number ten and give the breakdown,

1234
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,079
let's play number eleven right off the back because the

1235
00:58:55,119 --> 00:58:58,000
couples with it. In my opinion, Alexi, that's two games

1236
00:58:58,039 --> 00:59:00,039
in a row where you shot the ball well. But

1237
00:59:00,039 --> 00:59:02,039
what has turned it on for you that's got you

1238
00:59:02,119 --> 00:59:02,760
going recently?

1239
00:59:04,039 --> 00:59:06,519
Speaker 10: I mean just always believing myself, believing in my work

1240
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,119
and just like trying to step up into a bigger

1241
00:59:09,159 --> 00:59:11,360
role since we lost so many players, and also like

1242
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:17,599
trying to use the opportunity coach gave me, and yeah.

1243
00:59:16,719 --> 00:59:18,679
Speaker 5: Use the opportunity to coach gave him. He hasnt been

1244
00:59:18,679 --> 00:59:20,440
shooting the ball well, it's not even the last two games.

1245
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,280
That question was from Jay Drew, by the way, the

1246
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,000
Desert News. If you go back even to the UCF game,

1247
00:59:25,039 --> 00:59:27,239
even though that it was a blowout, Alexi was still

1248
00:59:27,239 --> 00:59:28,159
shooting well in that game.

1249
00:59:28,199 --> 00:59:29,719
Speaker 2: He's been in the last couple of post games.

1250
00:59:29,719 --> 00:59:32,079
Speaker 5: I think out of the last four times Bous played,

1251
00:59:32,079 --> 00:59:34,320
he's comes to the postgame I think three times now.

1252
00:59:34,719 --> 00:59:37,239
I like what I'm seeing. And if you get the game,

1253
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,239
you get matched up with Utah, you're able to get Utah.

1254
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,440
You're gonna need this guy to hit shots. And he's

1255
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,599
done that. And Brett, this is something we've been waiting

1256
00:59:43,639 --> 00:59:46,320
to see from Alexi. He's done it in the back

1257
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,760
half of the season, a rough part of BYU, but

1258
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,559
this is still I think a silver lining of a

1259
00:59:50,599 --> 00:59:53,239
player and taking it to the offseason because you brought

1260
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,880
him in. Kevin un said this sucker can shoot. Well,

1261
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,119
we're seeing that finally, and he wasn't hitting shots on

1262
00:59:58,119 --> 01:00:01,519
the road in around January five. Boy, he's hitting shots now.

1263
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,559
I think that's a big positive for this team.

1264
01:00:04,079 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 6: Alexi last night had more threes than everyone else on

1265
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:11,480
the team combined. Wow, he had four threes. Rob had one,

1266
01:00:11,639 --> 01:00:15,880
AJ had one, and then Kinnard had one. It just

1267
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:20,039
makes you look back at the season and wonder, like,

1268
01:00:21,679 --> 01:00:24,920
had Alexi had a longer rope, a longer leash to

1269
01:00:25,079 --> 01:00:29,800
work with, could he have been a better supplemental, a

1270
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:34,199
better complimentary piece to this team and kept BYU win

1271
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:39,039
some of those rougher stretches because of his three point shooting.

1272
01:00:39,559 --> 01:00:41,239
But you heard Kevin say it. I think it was

1273
01:00:41,719 --> 01:00:44,719
Monday during media availability where he's like, it's my job

1274
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,280
to it's your job to make me want to play

1275
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:49,920
you and like, some of these guys had a short

1276
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:54,880
leash and he's saying that now despite the fact that

1277
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,800
he has a shorter rotation. If again, it's a chicken

1278
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,320
in the egg conversation. I'm not pretending, Oh, if we

1279
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,000
would have just given Alexi more minutes, he would have

1280
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,480
shot better. We don't know, but it certainly does make

1281
01:01:05,519 --> 01:01:08,519
you look back on the season and wonder, had Alexi

1282
01:01:08,679 --> 01:01:11,800
had a longer leegh, could he have played at this

1283
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,960
level the whole season? Because if so, I think that

1284
01:01:15,039 --> 01:01:18,599
makes BYU an even more dynamic basketball team when they

1285
01:01:18,639 --> 01:01:19,199
had Richie.

1286
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 2: It's a great ticke, It's a great point.

1287
01:01:21,079 --> 01:01:24,199
Speaker 5: You have to wonder with that along with handcuffing Canard

1288
01:01:24,239 --> 01:01:28,039
Davis junior Kevin Young mention that not me, but I

1289
01:01:28,119 --> 01:01:31,039
wonder with Canard's ballhanding ability and being able to create

1290
01:01:31,039 --> 01:01:33,480
an Alexis shooting ability, if that would have been able

1291
01:01:33,519 --> 01:01:35,199
to do itself more a little bit of non conference

1292
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,800
going in the conference play, What could they have given

1293
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,760
confidence wise to this team when they hit these bumps

1294
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,880
in a row. We'll never know, but you hopefully you

1295
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,000
can fix that going forward and even into the offseason

1296
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:46,400
because I like what I see out of Canard down

1297
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,400
the stretch in terms of playmaking, and I like what

1298
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:49,599
I see from Alexi and shooting.

1299
01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 2: I hope the fancy that too.

1300
01:01:51,079 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 5: If not, I would really invite you to go rewatch

1301
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,039
the tape because I think those are big pieces that

1302
01:01:55,039 --> 01:01:57,360
they need to maintain going into next season. Last thing,

1303
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,199
and then we'll get the break a j Obviously, you

1304
01:01:59,199 --> 01:02:01,400
guys are in a tough spot out right now. What

1305
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,320
do you say to b YU fans that are starting

1306
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,360
to wonder if this team has the moxie to finish

1307
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:07,159
the season strong.

1308
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 4: I mean we do.

1309
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:09,599
Speaker 6: We believe in ourselves.

1310
01:02:09,599 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 9: Like ky I said, we'd beat a really good team

1311
01:02:11,559 --> 01:02:14,239
less than two weeks ago. I mean we let two

1312
01:02:14,519 --> 01:02:16,159
or we let a multiple sip away, but I mean

1313
01:02:16,199 --> 01:02:17,800
we could still finish out the season strong, going to

1314
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,960
the Big Toel Tournament strong, and you know, make a

1315
01:02:20,039 --> 01:02:20,440
march on.

1316
01:02:21,199 --> 01:02:27,199
Speaker 5: Buying or selling that from aj d Bonser Brett.

1317
01:02:29,159 --> 01:02:30,119
Speaker 6: Put me on the spot.

1318
01:02:30,159 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 2: Brother, I am sorry, they're not pre pay you for that.

1319
01:02:32,639 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 6: Fifth on this one.

1320
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 4: You can.

1321
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,239
Speaker 6: The first thing I want to say is shout out

1322
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,159
to Jay Drew for asking and asking an incredible qual.

1323
01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 2: The toughest question I think, and he said it for

1324
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:42,960
the last, really tough question for him to be like,

1325
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,199
what do you say to fans who feel like this

1326
01:02:45,239 --> 01:02:46,840
team may not be able to do it? Yeah?

1327
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 6: And great question by Jay, Great response by a j.

1328
01:02:50,639 --> 01:02:53,119
Yeah that is true. They could still turn it on

1329
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,280
get hot. The win against Iowa State is kind of

1330
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,920
what you hang everything on because you say, well, you

1331
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,880
had so some kind of performance that was good enough

1332
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,840
to beat the team that the committee told you was

1333
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,559
a one seed. You beat Iowa State in convincing fashion.

1334
01:03:09,239 --> 01:03:12,519
So is there's still some firepower left with this team

1335
01:03:12,639 --> 01:03:15,079
enough to get you wins in the Big Twelve Tournament

1336
01:03:15,119 --> 01:03:18,559
and the NCAA Tournament. I'm a guy who believes in

1337
01:03:18,639 --> 01:03:22,360
patterns ron I believe that people have good days, they

1338
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,920
have bad days. But who you are seventy five percent

1339
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,000
of the time is who you are. Who you are

1340
01:03:27,079 --> 01:03:31,079
twenty five percent of the time is not who you are.

1341
01:03:31,199 --> 01:03:34,559
I would love to be proven wrong. I'm selling not

1342
01:03:34,679 --> 01:03:37,000
because AJ doesn't. I don't think AJ doesn't believe. I

1343
01:03:37,079 --> 01:03:39,440
think he does. I think Kevin Young believes. I think

1344
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,639
a lot of this guys on this team believe. I

1345
01:03:41,719 --> 01:03:43,920
just don't know if they have the firepower to get

1346
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,960
it done, and I don't know if things can go

1347
01:03:46,079 --> 01:03:48,800
their way enough for them to get it done. I

1348
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:52,039
hope that I'm wrong, but I don't. I don't know

1349
01:03:52,079 --> 01:03:54,519
that I'm buying this team to win Big Twelve Tournament

1350
01:03:54,559 --> 01:03:56,239
games or NCAA Tournament games.

1351
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 5: I'm buying it from AJ and AJ's belief valid. I'm

1352
01:04:00,519 --> 01:04:03,519
selling for everyone else that if I had to pick

1353
01:04:03,559 --> 01:04:05,719
and be objective, that's a tough part, and people are

1354
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,679
gonna come for me. Those maybe it'd be au of

1355
01:04:07,679 --> 01:04:09,559
those listening, they have ever right to one hundred percent.

1356
01:04:09,559 --> 01:04:12,440
But from what I see, I feel like AJ is

1357
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,639
busting you know, his ass, every like he is trying

1358
01:04:15,679 --> 01:04:18,519
and exhausting everything. You know, Rob is also playing forty

1359
01:04:18,559 --> 01:04:20,719
minutes like guys are trying out there. So I I

1360
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,800
AJ to me, I believe AJ when he says this.

1361
01:04:24,519 --> 01:04:26,559
There has to be believed from the entire team. One

1362
01:04:26,599 --> 01:04:28,880
guy just can't believe. It's four of the guys on

1363
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:30,719
the court. It's six of the guys on that bench

1364
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,800
right now. I know the number two, the number four, six, eight,

1365
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,360
and ten are out. I don't care. The other guys

1366
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,360
have to believe, and you have to And what I'm

1367
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,440
gonna believe and take from this is what I see

1368
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:41,039
on Saturday.

1369
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:43,239
Speaker 2: I believe Richie will be in the building. I believe,

1370
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:44,519
you know, because he's gonna be honored.

1371
01:04:45,079 --> 01:04:47,079
Speaker 5: You playing on Saturday will tell me everything I need

1372
01:04:47,079 --> 01:04:49,039
to know what's gonna happen in the Big Soft Tournament

1373
01:04:49,239 --> 01:04:51,519
and NC tournament, even if they lose. If you show

1374
01:04:51,599 --> 01:04:53,400
up and don't have effort, if you show up and

1375
01:04:53,599 --> 01:04:55,719
want to be piss poorled, if all of that couple,

1376
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:56,760
if you want to turn the ball over.

1377
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,039
Speaker 2: Whatever the reasons are, I don't care.

1378
01:04:58,639 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 5: If that happens on Saturday, that will tell me everything

1379
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,480
I need to know for next Tuesday. If you get

1380
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,800
matched up with Utah and for the NCAA tournament, because

1381
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:07,880
you're gonna drop to a ten seed. I believe that

1382
01:05:08,119 --> 01:05:10,840
is everything I will believe and go for. But they

1383
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:12,519
have the power to change it. Like I said, fifty

1384
01:05:12,559 --> 01:05:15,320
to fifty chants Texas TeX's best players.

1385
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 2: Out so as BYU's.

1386
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 5: Let's see what happens as the Cougars take on the

1387
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,840
Red Raiders on Saturday in the Marriott Center and shout

1388
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,840
out to Rita. I talked to them. They're gonna be

1389
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,519
giving the headbands away for the top king.

1390
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 2: We will see. We gotta go to break though.

1391
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:29,719
Speaker 5: We're gonna get Aaron Rodercks sound on the flip side

1392
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,840
and read it between the lines. Ben Kritta will be

1393
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:33,679
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