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Speaker 1: So everybody you know my guest, he's part of this tribe,
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Speaker 1: By the way, everybody last Wednesday? Thursday? Was it Wednesday?
Speaker 1: Or Thursday? Was your birthday is Thursday? So whatever day,
Speaker 1: it was, happy birthday to you. And so did you
Speaker 1: cross into a new decade?
Speaker 2: No? And that's something that I'm trying not to. I'm
Speaker 2: trying to forget.
Speaker 1: My age when and because like that.
Speaker 2: The age thing is like a ritual, you know, every
Speaker 2: single year, like we are, you know, shepherded and herded
Speaker 2: into remembering our age. And I think it's also like
Speaker 2: another thing with the new year, you know, bring in
Speaker 2: the new year. So what do you associate with a
Speaker 2: new year? You associate a new year with getting older?
Speaker 2: And what are you associated with getting older?
Speaker 1: You get cool?
Speaker 2: Right? So I think that if we didn't remember our age,
Speaker 2: then we would stay young for a lot longer and
Speaker 2: we would live a lot longer, you know, So I
Speaker 2: try and really not even think about it, you know,
Speaker 2: But I'm still young, still super young.
Speaker 1: But uh, by the way, I can tell you never.
Speaker 2: The earlier we forget the you know, then the longer
Speaker 2: that we're going to live. I still got a lot
Speaker 2: to accomplish her, So I'm trying to stay around as
Speaker 2: long as possible to accomplish all the things.
Speaker 1: World could use you. But these are.
Speaker 2: Wayne really appreciate that what's going on, So I'll try you.
Speaker 2: Good to see you guys. Thanks for being in the chat. Everyone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, active group. Everybody. How you doing, Guya says
Speaker 1: she's thirty nine. I believe that. Hello, Nina, I have
Speaker 1: no reason to doubt any of that. Uh. And it's
Speaker 1: you know, time is time. There's you know, so many
Speaker 1: groups that the stones. You know, time waits for no one.
Speaker 1: But I can tell you when you do get down
Speaker 1: the line, it's quite interesting. Uh. And I can tell
Speaker 1: you this, you really never grow old, I mean the body. Uh,
Speaker 1: but you know, you can extend that out for a while.
Speaker 1: And if the technologists are correct the futurist, the merge
Speaker 1: of both human in machine will in fact give us
Speaker 1: eternal life. And if they merge consciousness to machine, you
Speaker 1: do have eternal life in a sense.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's something that's definitely going on. And what
Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about a little bit as well
Speaker 2: is I think I've mentioned it to you a couple
Speaker 2: of times, when like, why is it that we are
Speaker 2: still using the exact same things that we've been using
Speaker 2: for decades now? You know, why is it that we're
Speaker 2: still using the same planes. Why are we still using
Speaker 2: the same trains, Why are we still using the same microwaves,
Speaker 2: the same refrigerators, the everyda objects are the same freaking vacuums,
Speaker 2: the same cars. I mean, cars have changed like a
Speaker 2: little bit. We've gone more into the electric route, but
Speaker 2: that's still not sustainable.
Speaker 1: You know, when they give me the hydrogen car, then
Speaker 1: they want to know that we've made it.
Speaker 2: And that's the point, right, Something has stifled our innovation,
Speaker 2: creativity and creativity, right, it's and they've put us in
Speaker 2: this into this work cycle of like a nine to
Speaker 2: five and made us struggle so that we really don't
Speaker 2: have time to innovate. And even if we were to innovate,
Speaker 2: someone just comes along and steals it. A corporation comes
Speaker 2: along and steals it, seet and you know this more
Speaker 2: than I do. But big corporations, they have an entire
Speaker 2: team behind them that they will just give information to
Speaker 2: and then that team will create whatever it is that
Speaker 2: they want them to create. Right, so they can literally
Speaker 2: go to some small person and be like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: well we want you to kind of do this.
Speaker 1: And I can tell you it'll take you four years.
Speaker 1: You'll pay a approximately one point three million. That's what
Speaker 1: we paid because we had to do that to a
Speaker 1: company and we took them to court on violation of
Speaker 1: our IP and uh yeah, breaking the non disclosure and
Speaker 1: it sucks, it does. That isn't to tell you. We
Speaker 1: were up against the number one litigating firm that this
Speaker 1: publicly traded company could and we were just this little
Speaker 1: small startup. Oh I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. So what happens is is if someone invents
Speaker 2: something they don't even have to invent, and it could
Speaker 2: be whatever it is. It can be art, it can
Speaker 2: be you know, uh, some sort of technology or whatever.
Speaker 2: A large corporation sees that, then they take that to
Speaker 2: what their team and they're like, here, this is like
Speaker 2: the basis of like what the idea that we want
Speaker 2: you guys to create, and then they create it and
Speaker 2: then it just pushes out the little small people out
Speaker 2: of the thing. And even if they see it and
Speaker 2: they're like, this is essentially my product, this is my technology,
Speaker 2: there's going to be very little that they can even
Speaker 2: do about it because it's gonna they're gonna wrap it
Speaker 2: up all with LEO fees, just like what you were
Speaker 2: talking about for a really long time. So not only
Speaker 2: not only have we been hurt by not having the
Speaker 2: time or the patience to innovate anything new, because we
Speaker 2: should be in a reality that is beneficial for everyone.
Speaker 2: Our roads should be maximized, our trains should be maximized,
Speaker 2: everything should be. Our way of life should have been
Speaker 2: one hundred times easy year by now. But it's not.
Speaker 2: And there's only a couple of things that, you know,
Speaker 2: you can look at that would give you the reason why.
Speaker 2: There's only a couple of reasons why. And one of
Speaker 2: them is one I just mentioned, which was these corporations
Speaker 2: that are just taking people's ideas and then creating their
Speaker 2: own or taking their technology or whatever and just creating
Speaker 2: their own. The other is when it comes to this
Speaker 2: AI stuff, because what's going to and this is just
Speaker 2: my personal perspective here, you know, what I think that
Speaker 2: AI is eventually going to do, and we've already kind
Speaker 2: of seen it do this, that it's it's going to
Speaker 2: be used as the excuse for creating a lot of
Speaker 2: this new stuff. Okay, so everyone likes to talk about
Speaker 2: free energy, right, free energy, anti gravity craft, you know,
Speaker 2: spaceships whatever that will take us to wherever, planes that
Speaker 2: will take us to here, to London, and our you
Speaker 2: know things like that. Right, Well, now that's going to
Speaker 2: be AI's job. AI is now going to create that
Speaker 2: kind of technology, and then that's going to be the oh,
Speaker 2: we didn't do that, We didn't do that, Wayne, AI
Speaker 2: did it? You know what I'm saying, even though we've
Speaker 2: we've had this technology for a really long time, even
Speaker 2: though the government has probably created it, the things like
Speaker 2: the anti gravity craft and the the free energy, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of obvious at this point that
Speaker 2: it has been created and it can be done. But
Speaker 2: it's not in order for them to roll out any
Speaker 2: of that technology and avoid all of the questions that
Speaker 2: come along with well how long have you had this
Speaker 2: free energy? How long have you had these anti gravity crafts? Right,
Speaker 2: it's just going to be shuffled off on the AI.
Speaker 2: It's going to be oh well, AI just made it.
Speaker 2: AI just cracked the code on this that we've been
Speaker 2: trying to crack for fifty sixty years. Right, then it's
Speaker 2: going to become an AI think and then really nobody
Speaker 2: is going to actually own it at that point except
Speaker 2: the people that own and run the AIS. Right. So
Speaker 2: it's like it's creating this middleman in between the humans
Speaker 2: and the government and these large corporations. And that's where
Speaker 2: I see that it's going to really push in that direction.
Speaker 2: And I haven't really heard a lot of people talk
Speaker 2: about that, you know. They they talk a lot about
Speaker 2: the you know, the AI takeover in the human robotics
Speaker 2: and the AI mixed with humans and the technology and
Speaker 2: the implants and the brain chips and all that, but
Speaker 2: they don't really talk about the innovation of what AI
Speaker 2: will actually eventually be able to create in our reality
Speaker 2: for us, Right, and that's going to be the excuse
Speaker 2: for it is going to be Okay, well, how do
Speaker 2: we get this free energy? Oh well, AI made the
Speaker 2: free energy. It created the device. So then that takes
Speaker 2: any plausible deniability off of anybody else that has ever
Speaker 2: if they've done it before or if it's been a thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know, what do you think of that?
Speaker 1: Well, it kind of goes to the question I had
Speaker 1: on I. As you know, so your generation is now
Speaker 1: coming of age. You guys are up at bat, the
Speaker 1: boomers are exiting the scene, and so you really got
Speaker 1: the xyz coming in and so it's really how do
Speaker 1: you see the future? And you just you elaborated it
Speaker 1: beautifully on that. Getting back to a couple of points
Speaker 1: that you made art. For instance, I enjoy art when
Speaker 1: Smithsonian was a client of mine and spent a lot
Speaker 1: of time in the Museum of Natural Art. But it's
Speaker 1: interesting because now AI is fascinating us with how it
Speaker 1: sees art, how it sees creativity, and how it's using
Speaker 1: What one philosopher me would say is obviously AI has
Speaker 1: an imagination of some kind, because you can't create art
Speaker 1: merely by saying, well, it's just a machine creating it.
Speaker 1: That's what distinguished us from the animal supposedly, is that
Speaker 1: we had an imaginations. Second, the corporations, in a sense,
Speaker 1: they are the modern day gods, the Titans, and there's
Speaker 1: a war with the Titans, just like it was in
Speaker 1: Mythology of the Greeks of the Roman s mesopdom. But
Speaker 1: what's really interesting, though, is that all the big corporations,
Speaker 1: even the small ones, all use sichils symbols to represent
Speaker 1: what they are. And when you start having a corporation
Speaker 1: incorporating what would be definitely occultism, you can't just say, well,
Speaker 1: I need a logo. Well, logo means logos, right knowledge,
Speaker 1: you know. It's so it's one of the things that
Speaker 1: we've accepted as normalcy but never really understanding why did
Speaker 1: corporations have the control that they do. And it's very
Speaker 1: obvious that I think that we've had the solution to
Speaker 1: be able to travel with zero energy. I think we
Speaker 1: have the knowledge and the technology that we can feed
Speaker 1: the whole world. I think we have the technology that
Speaker 1: we can literally have it to where no human being
Speaker 1: will have to pay for energy. Ever, that ain't going
Speaker 1: to happen. There's an agenda and so that for me,
Speaker 1: as a philosopher, I look at this and an occultist
Speaker 1: and a former religious person that theologian, if you want
Speaker 1: to say, tells me there's something more at play here.
Speaker 1: And so now we're talking about AI artificial intelligence, what
Speaker 1: we're really talking about is the ability of the machine
Speaker 1: now to think for itself and the implications for that.
Speaker 1: My generation will never see the full impact of it.
Speaker 1: You will. And that's why for me to hear the
Speaker 1: question in what you just were summing, your future is
Speaker 1: probably going to be more dominated by the legacy of
Speaker 1: the baby boomers. And do you see that legacy as
Speaker 1: being positive or do you see it being used for
Speaker 1: profit and for gain, which only leads to subrogation.
Speaker 2: By the way, well, here's the thing. If you can
Speaker 2: make the population stupid and dumb, the majority of people,
Speaker 2: the majority of people that can't think, see, they try
Speaker 2: and say. People in the community are like, okay, well,
Speaker 2: what are they distracting us from? What are they What
Speaker 2: are they trying to distract us from? The whatever the
Speaker 2: government is doing. They're they're doing the slight of hand.
Speaker 2: They're over here doing this one thing while they're over
Speaker 2: here actually doing another thing. Well, that could be true,
Speaker 2: but the real thing that they're actually trying to distract
Speaker 2: you from is from yourself. They're trying to distract you
Speaker 2: from what you can do. That's the big distraction, that's
Speaker 2: the biggest distraction of all. Get your attention. In twenty
Speaker 2: different directions, so you can't focus on you. You can't
Speaker 2: focus on what it is that you're supposed to be
Speaker 2: doing and the beneficial thing that you're supposed to be
Speaker 2: doing for humanity or whatever it is that you need
Speaker 2: to do for your life, whether that be a self betterment,
Speaker 2: you know, figuring out your abilities what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 2: You know, that's the biggest distraction.
Speaker 1: Interesting because the trend that I'm seeing, and like I said,
Speaker 1: it's going to be more impactful once I'm out of here,
Speaker 1: is that I'm seeing the younger generations they depend on
Speaker 1: the machine. They depend on the machine to tell them
Speaker 1: if they feel good, they're ten on the machine. If
Speaker 1: they feel bad, they now use the machine to in
Speaker 1: some cases, very nefarious purposes. To me, if you've got
Speaker 1: that type of and this is why, you know, one
Speaker 1: of the questions is our platforms, like social media platforms,
Speaker 1: are they really beneficial to humans or are they a
Speaker 1: distraction to us? As you just said, and I can
Speaker 1: tell you, writer, I find most people don't care about
Speaker 1: what they feel inside. It's as long as they're stimulated
Speaker 1: or entertained. That's what's important. Because if they get quiet,
Speaker 1: they start to freak out.
Speaker 2: And that's something that I've never had a problem with,
Speaker 2: Like I can sit down and not say anything.
Speaker 1: To anyone for you're definitely in the minority. In fact,
Speaker 1: I read a paper today that they're now saying in
Speaker 1: mental science that meditation can be bad for you.
Speaker 2: I'm going, meditation now calls cancer, the meditation now impact
Speaker 2: the climate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I started reading it, and it's an interesting paper.
Speaker 1: It's saying that, you know, and I'm going, wait a minute.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're starting to get this in academia,
Speaker 1: it doesn't take it long from academia to get into
Speaker 1: the mainstream, right, And so can you imagine ten years
Speaker 1: from now, the government's going to be telling you that
Speaker 1: meditation is bad and so since you can't handle it,
Speaker 1: we're going to make a law anyone caught meditating, you know,
Speaker 1: figually on the blanks. After that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a very extreme case. But I understand what
Speaker 2: you're saying is that people they can't it makes them
Speaker 2: feel uncomfortable. And I've been around several people like that
Speaker 2: where if you're just sitting there and you're not actively
Speaker 2: in a conversation like all, and it gets really it
Speaker 2: gets really tiring to do that because I like to
Speaker 2: think a lot and I like to keep to myself
Speaker 2: a lot. You know, Now, if the conversation is fascinating,
Speaker 2: then I can talk for hours and hours and hours
Speaker 2: about it. But if it's not and it's just about
Speaker 2: stupid shit, then I can't do it. You know, I'll
Speaker 2: just be like, Okay, if.
Speaker 1: Fit the same perfectly. When you need someone intelligent to
Speaker 1: talk to, you talk to yourself.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's exactly, and you just you know, break
Speaker 2: that over in your mind over and over and over
Speaker 2: again until you find something new. And that's one of
Speaker 2: the my favorite things to do. But if they can
Speaker 2: make like I was mentioning, if they can make the
Speaker 2: population dumb and stupid, confused, not know exactly what it
Speaker 2: is that they're supposed to do, have them working from
Speaker 2: nine to five, make them stress out over money, raise
Speaker 2: the prices of everything, raise the prices of food, raise
Speaker 2: the prices of gas, raise the cost of living to
Speaker 2: an astronomical rate. Take the housing market in basically quadruple it,
Speaker 2: which I feel like the housing market is eventually going
Speaker 2: to bust and we're going to be into another like
Speaker 2: a big housing market collapse within the next five years.
Speaker 2: But that's not good either, because whenever the housing market collapses,
Speaker 2: then the people with money are the ones that's going
Speaker 2: to buy up all the properties.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, and home equity for the common man, common person,
Speaker 1: you know, middle class and even you know, beyond that,
Speaker 1: it's really where most people have their savings, their life value,
Speaker 1: their worth. Yeah, And if that collapses, then that's that's
Speaker 1: a bad domino effect.
Speaker 2: So then you can root out all the people that
Speaker 2: are essentially going to be a problem, right, The ones
Speaker 2: that are smarter, the ones that are that can see
Speaker 2: through a lot of the rules, that can that has
Speaker 2: any kind of ability, any kind of intuition, those numbers
Speaker 2: are going to be way fewer that's going to be
Speaker 2: coming out, right, And then you can you can stop
Speaker 2: that with a hard press, you know, you can. You
Speaker 2: can stop them at the gate, because it's not everybody anymore,
Speaker 2: because the majority of the population either one don't have time,
Speaker 2: don't have the resources, don't have the money, don't have
Speaker 2: the ingenuity, they're they may not have the want or
Speaker 2: the need. And that also gets back to you know,
Speaker 2: what exactly are we? What are we doing here? Who
Speaker 2: are we? You know? And that's a thing that a
Speaker 2: lot of people get stuck in is they don't know
Speaker 2: what they're supposed to be doing, right. They don't really
Speaker 2: know what their gifts are. They don't know what their
Speaker 2: abilities to do things actually are. So therefore they don't
Speaker 2: know they get stuck at a McDonald's job, or they
Speaker 2: get stuck at a burger king job, or some jobs that.
Speaker 1: They those jobs are going away, I mean the fast
Speaker 1: food industry sector. They're going to robotics. McDonald's now in
Speaker 1: the West Coast already have restaurants that have no humans.
Speaker 1: Your order is being taken by someone in some other location.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because if I were to be able to
Speaker 1: get you into a ted talk. So where does this lead?
Speaker 1: Does this lead to a total civilization collapse? Is it
Speaker 1: a complete collapse of the financial system? And I don't know.
Speaker 1: And that typically starts revolutions when people start no longer
Speaker 1: have reason or purpose, then they tend to Our history
Speaker 1: has shown that is that the future you think that
Speaker 1: is potential for your generation going forward?
Speaker 2: And well, that's the issue is that people have found
Speaker 2: meaning and purpose that is connected to their jobs working
Speaker 2: for a large corporation. That's been the issue for a
Speaker 2: really long time. Is that that is what people's meaning
Speaker 2: and purpose has been in. Like I was mentioning, that's
Speaker 2: the distraction, that's the distraction from you. That's the distraction
Speaker 2: from you figuring out what it is that you are
Speaker 2: supposed to do on your own. So you throw in
Speaker 2: the confusion aspect of it. You throw in the media
Speaker 2: throwing information at you twenty four to seven, confusing you
Speaker 2: on what it is that you're supposed to be doing.
Speaker 2: Then they get you in this essential prison, you know,
Speaker 2: prison of your mind, and you can't think outside of
Speaker 2: the prison of your mind. So you just continue to
Speaker 2: go to work. And that's not me saying that work
Speaker 2: is a bad thing. I don't think money is inherently
Speaker 2: a bad thing. You need money and you need these
Speaker 2: things to be able to survive, right, But it's been
Speaker 2: ingrained so deep into our society that that is what
Speaker 2: people now live for. Now, what you're asking is when
Speaker 2: that changes, and when people no longer have that aspect
Speaker 2: to live for anymore because they're no longer going to
Speaker 2: have that job, what what are they going to do?
Speaker 2: And I think that that is the question that has
Speaker 2: been posed to a lot of people. It's been posed
Speaker 2: to the creator of child GBT online on Joe Rogan's podcast,
Speaker 2: and he doesn't really have an answer for it. You know,
Speaker 2: this is a question that's been asked over and over again.
Speaker 1: Mike Row had an answer to it, and I agree
Speaker 1: with him. And I've met a lot of them because
Speaker 1: you know, obviously, particularly where we're having having a new roof.
Speaker 1: So my point is I've seen a difference those that
Speaker 1: know a trade, carpenters, electricians, you know, plumbers. Here in
Speaker 1: Missouri there's a strong effort and focus now instead of
Speaker 1: having kids go to college where they really don't have
Speaker 1: you know, you can have a degree, but what's it
Speaker 1: worth thew Whereas if you have a trade, that trade
Speaker 1: can be then used in like habitat for humanity, other
Speaker 1: opportunities to build. Here in Saint Louis, they have this
Speaker 1: complete thing for veterans where the carpenters come in, all
Speaker 1: the trades and they build these tiny houses for veterans.
Speaker 1: And to me, it's like, well, that's something you don't
Speaker 1: hear about because that's non tech. It's really getting out
Speaker 1: in nature. It's working at sweating in clement weather, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's a possibility for your generation or you know,
Speaker 1: going forward. I mean, maybe that is something to factor in.
Speaker 2: Well, there's gonna be a lot of dying arts, there's
Speaker 2: I mean, upholstery is a dying art now, and that's
Speaker 2: that we don't know how to fix any of this stuff.
Speaker 1: True.
Speaker 2: Other issue is another problem with consumerism, right, so when
Speaker 2: something breaks, we tend to just go buy a new one,
Speaker 2: and we don't because.
Speaker 1: We don't really, But it's designed to break a problem.
Speaker 2: Land obsolescence, right, meant to go off at a certain
Speaker 2: time and only have it. But then that also raises
Speaker 2: the question of like waste. You know, where is all
Speaker 2: this stuff going to? What are they doing with all
Speaker 2: the trash?
Speaker 1: I mean, can I stop you writing that? That is
Speaker 1: you can search you to and you won't find that
Speaker 1: many videos. But where they're putting the trash is a
Speaker 1: really big big deal because these trash dumps are tomorrow's
Speaker 1: toxic fields. I mean, that's the thing about technology. It's toxic.
Speaker 1: All of it's a thin client. You know what you're
Speaker 1: looking at the monitor and your keyboard. When that crap
Speaker 1: goes away, it's toxic and you know you can recycle it.
Speaker 1: But these recyclers get lax and lazy. So it's a
Speaker 1: good point. Where's the trash going? And do you know
Speaker 1: maybe like your house is built on a trash bile?
Speaker 2: Good point, yeah, like, where where are we putting the tray?
Speaker 2: I mean the trash runs every single week here and
Speaker 2: this is just you know, a smaller town. You know,
Speaker 2: where where are you putting all the it's exactly, And
Speaker 2: where we putting all the batteries these electric vehicles.
Speaker 1: That's toxic crap. And I mean you got the you
Speaker 1: got the plastic biomass out in the Pacific. It's as
Speaker 1: big as some states. I mean, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: The amount of production that we put in on a
Speaker 2: daily basis to create new product. That means that that
Speaker 2: old product has to be discarded. And if it's not
Speaker 2: discarded in the same day that the new product is
Speaker 2: put out on the shelf, then it's going to be
Speaker 2: discarded soon at some point. Right, So there's always new
Speaker 2: stuff coming in and no one ever thinks, well, where
Speaker 2: is all the old stuff going? You know, it's kind
Speaker 2: of like out of side, out of mind. Okay, Well
Speaker 2: we don't want to know, We'll just put it out
Speaker 2: in the trash bins, We'll put it in the dumpster
Speaker 2: and then that's the end of it. No one else
Speaker 2: thinks of where else where is that going, you know?
Speaker 2: And how much how much more can we handle of that?
Speaker 1: It's as you were talking. One of the things that
Speaker 1: it has always befuddled me was that if we're so
Speaker 1: smart food I mean people, food is expensive today and
Speaker 1: it's getting it's not going to get cheaper. But yet
Speaker 1: the amount of food that the machine produces and then
Speaker 1: disposes where they won't let the humans come in that
Speaker 1: could actually use that because you've got kakamane cities that
Speaker 1: have these ridiculous ordinances that businesses somehow can't that was
Speaker 1: once consumable five minutes ago because if you bring it
Speaker 1: outside now it's not fit for human consumption. I don't
Speaker 1: get it. I mean, if we talk about recycling and
Speaker 1: saving the planet, I don't know, we're screwing that up
Speaker 1: pretty good. And the idea that we throw away more
Speaker 1: food than yeah, it again my imagination. Why we haven't
Speaker 1: figured that one out? Hey, I will by eliminating.
Speaker 2: Us every restaurant, every grocery store that you've ever been
Speaker 2: into or that you ever know of, throws away food
Speaker 2: at the end of every single night, like pounds and
Speaker 2: pounds of food into the dumpster hunts.
Speaker 1: This is the way I look, and it's crazy. It
Speaker 1: I don't get it. We So I'll say this for
Speaker 1: the baby boomers, we were promised flying cars, we were
Speaker 1: promised a robot in every room, We were pro you know,
Speaker 1: all these things that we grew up in in the
Speaker 1: late fifties and the sixties. It hasn't turned out that
Speaker 1: a way. But let me tell you this. I believe
Speaker 1: there are those that did figure it out and said,
Speaker 1: hell no, we're going to make money off this. We
Speaker 1: let it out there. And this is just my opinion.
Speaker 1: I believe the cure for cancer has already been discovered.
Speaker 1: But you know the thing about it is the big
Speaker 1: pharma companies don't make money on cures. They make trillions
Speaker 1: on how should we say, allowing you to manage your disease.
Speaker 1: It gets when you start getting into this and you
Speaker 1: really start boiling it down, it's almost like our lives
Speaker 1: are being preprogrammed and carried out to the second because
Speaker 1: no matter where you turn, you are basically food in
Speaker 1: a sense.
Speaker 2: Well that's also because they put the disease inside of
Speaker 2: the food they put the whatever it is, the problems
Speaker 2: that you're going to have whenever you're eighty years old,
Speaker 2: ninety years old. It's in the food. It's in the food,
Speaker 2: it's in the water, it's in the air. It's just
Speaker 2: a small little dose of it right to where it
Speaker 2: builds up in your system over years and years and
Speaker 2: years and years and years, and then it fully develops
Speaker 2: and then you have all these issues and all these
Speaker 2: problems whenever you're order.
Speaker 1: I mean, and they say that each human now has
Speaker 1: a credit card worth a plastic in them. Yep, I
Speaker 1: don't think that was in the original recipe when they
Speaker 1: were actually making these bodies. Well, let's make sure we
Speaker 1: put a good dose of you know, petroleum byproducts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense. So you're the generation now has
Speaker 1: the opportunity to well, we didn't do it. We failed.
Speaker 1: So now your generation is up. Do you see any
Speaker 1: hope that your generation? What would be the legacy of
Speaker 1: your generation when your time to walk off the stages?
Speaker 2: Well, we just talked about the the food, the technology,
Speaker 2: and the waste. Like what about clothing product? Like where
Speaker 2: does all of our clothes go? How many? How many
Speaker 2: clothes is being manufactured every single day and put onto
Speaker 2: the shelf. Like you've never been to Walmart and went
Speaker 2: to the or Target or even any store. You never
Speaker 2: walked into a mall, and they're not being any clothes
Speaker 2: on the shelf. So they're they're they're making these things
Speaker 2: at a fast neck pace. And it's not like people
Speaker 2: are going in there and buying every single article of clothing.
Speaker 2: But somehow, every time you go into a store, there's
Speaker 2: always clothes on the shelf, you know. So then where
Speaker 2: are these taken to? Like when we go to a
Speaker 2: donation center to donate some of our old clothes, Like,
Speaker 2: are they really going to that donation center? Where are
Speaker 2: they taking it? There's a beach overseas that where a
Speaker 2: forget where it is, but it's this beach that is
Speaker 2: just full of clothes. The entire beach is just full
Speaker 2: of clothes because a ship just dumped a crop ton
Speaker 2: of clothes into the ocean and then all the clothes
Speaker 2: just washed up on the shore and the entire beach
Speaker 2: is just coated in like clothes.
Speaker 1: Guy says, the clothing is toxic.
Speaker 2: That's right. They put stuff into the into the clothes
Speaker 2: and dies.
Speaker 1: I don't you know, I don't know. I have the
Speaker 1: cotton fields expanded. I mean, I remember living in Texas
Speaker 1: back in the day. There was miles and miles of
Speaker 1: cotton fields. But those cotton fields are now becoming subdivisions.
Speaker 1: So I don't know where this. I guess that's where
Speaker 1: the synthetics come in. Right here, where's some oil, some
Speaker 1: petroleum oil.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in Ghana, in Ghana, there's a beach. This is
Speaker 2: just covered in clothes. That's not or an installation, but
Speaker 2: it's a it's a harsh reality, particularly in Ghana. This
Speaker 2: phenomenon is directly the consequences of a global fast fashion
Speaker 2: industry and subsequent surge and textile waste.
Speaker 1: You know, writer, I just thinking about this at a
Speaker 1: higher level. You know, if there are gods, gods, if
Speaker 1: they if Earth is a living entity, human kind has
Speaker 1: not been kind to our planet, and I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, and you could almost become you could take
Speaker 1: the nihilist or the fatalist long term view on this.
Speaker 1: Something has to happen, and I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: going to be your generation. We're leaving a hell of
Speaker 1: a legacy for the future generations. And you know, I
Speaker 1: get it. I was recently reading on LinkedIn an article
Speaker 1: about how Generation Z is finding this monotony of you
Speaker 1: pointed out of a nine to five job. That has
Speaker 1: to be more to life than that, and I couldn't
Speaker 1: agree more with that. But how do you get there?
Speaker 1: Zuckerberg says, AI will help take us to that level
Speaker 1: where we don't need a job, and we'll y'all have
Speaker 1: you your generation futures will have more leisure time to
Speaker 1: pursue whatever it is you want to pursue. But I
Speaker 1: don't know how people are going to do that unless
Speaker 1: there's a universal pay that everyone is getting or some
Speaker 1: other monetary form of economic or financial transactions. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the issue. They couldn't do it before because
Speaker 2: they couldn't control it, right, And the thing about it
Speaker 2: is too whenever that happens. If that happens and people
Speaker 2: no longer have to work, well, all of the jobs
Speaker 2: that they also wanted to do before they had their
Speaker 2: nine to five job that they would rather have done
Speaker 2: is no longer going to be an option either. So
Speaker 2: not only is it going to get rid of the
Speaker 2: wanted jobs, is also going to get rid of any
Speaker 2: of the jobs that they wanted to do instead, So
Speaker 2: there's going to have to be this. I mean, I
Speaker 2: know that humans are very adoptable. I mean we can
Speaker 2: adopt to anything. We can adapt to our environment, we
Speaker 2: can adapt to whatever it is that we need to
Speaker 2: adapt to. I mean, like how easily we've figured out technology.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's sad, but you can give a child,
Speaker 2: a three or four year old child, a tablet and
Speaker 2: they're going to figure it out. They're going to figure
Speaker 2: it out before an eighty year old person is going
Speaker 2: to figure it out, because they're kind of born into it, right.
Speaker 2: They don't know anything else. So therefore they're you.
Speaker 1: Can do the same thing to a chicken.
Speaker 2: What do you mean?
Speaker 1: I mean what I'm meaning by that, it's the experiments
Speaker 1: that they used, you know, with training a chicken, or
Speaker 1: it could be anything really that you punch this button,
Speaker 1: then the pellet's going to come out, or if you
Speaker 1: punch this one over here water and they can switch
Speaker 1: that up and eventually pros are really good at this.
Speaker 1: They can figure out the powder. My point is is
Speaker 1: that with the tablet, that's exactly it. So they get
Speaker 1: basically the borg assimilated into the machine and the machine
Speaker 1: is going to give you pleasure, it's going to entertain you.
Speaker 1: That's the trap that I see, because you're not using
Speaker 1: your imagination anymore. I mean as a species. You said
Speaker 1: it earlier. The IQ scores are going down and we're
Speaker 1: the average now is ninety or something in that range.
Speaker 1: And I'm going I have contended been on this thing
Speaker 1: over a decade that we should be at an IQ
Speaker 1: level of ten thousand.
Speaker 2: Either.
Speaker 1: There's no reason for any human being not to have
Speaker 1: an IQ greater than the previous generations. But it seems
Speaker 1: to be reversing again. You're the generation inheriting this mess,
Speaker 1: and you know, you look at is your generation ready
Speaker 1: for it? I mean you know you look at the
Speaker 1: political structure, you look at the corporate structure. We screwed
Speaker 1: it up. I mean, my generation, we just took after
Speaker 1: the previous one. We're the ones that created the tech
Speaker 1: titans that now are enslaving us. They're making their billions
Speaker 1: off of us. But us, poor sheeple out here, we
Speaker 1: don't get anything for it.
Speaker 2: And that's the way that's that's that hierarchical structure. I mean,
Speaker 2: I do have some hope for I mean, I know
Speaker 2: that there's people out there, especially in my generation, that
Speaker 2: really want to see things change. But how they go
Speaker 2: about that is it could be to our detriment or
Speaker 2: it could be to our favor. And I know that
Speaker 2: there's going to have to be some kind of new
Speaker 2: radical ideas, but the way that people have been programmed now,
Speaker 2: it's going to be difficult for them to transition into
Speaker 2: something new unless something really devastating in life.
Speaker 1: Well here's what I think, writer, I'm going to give
Speaker 1: a gift to you. What's that buddy?
Speaker 2: If you look at twenty twenty, right, like, how easily
Speaker 2: did we switch from just doing everything from home?
Speaker 1: Well, that was the biggest mind fuck of all time.
Speaker 1: I mean, at least for the last two thousand years.
Speaker 1: If it fundamentally changed us.
Speaker 2: It did changed our behavior, changed our interactions. It turned
Speaker 2: us into you know, fermits essentially, you know, stay home,
Speaker 2: don't talk to anybody while you're out. And that was
Speaker 2: already kind of going to the wayside anyway. It was.
Speaker 1: You know which sector hurt the most out of that,
Speaker 1: and it's forever changed it churches. It literally changed the
Speaker 1: fundamental direction that for the last five, six, seven plus
Speaker 1: hundred years that this was happening, and you know, it
Speaker 1: separated us as a species, and you know this great,
Speaker 1: this experiment has had devastating impact on us. When you
Speaker 1: separate humans for that length of time, we're not used
Speaker 1: to that. And I think it screwed the program up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really did, and it turned everything up upside down.
Speaker 2: And it was already getting to that point where you
Speaker 2: could go out and go to a grocery store, go
Speaker 2: to a restaurant or whatever, and no one is really
Speaker 2: going to say anything to you. You know, no one's
Speaker 2: gonna actually talk to you, which is so weird to me,
Speaker 2: Like that you can go into a grocery store and
Speaker 2: no one ever say anything to you, Isn't it kind
Speaker 2: of weird way, it's really strange when you think about it. Now,
Speaker 2: regardless if you want that interaction or not, I can
Speaker 2: walk into basically anywhere really even a place of business,
Speaker 2: and like not even be greeted, not even be he asked, Hey,
Speaker 2: how you doing, Welcome into the shop, or welcome into
Speaker 2: the store. Yeah, it's so odd and it's so strange,
Speaker 2: and it's so weird that you can just walk into
Speaker 2: a grocery store and spend an hour, even two hours
Speaker 2: inside of a grocery store and not one person say
Speaker 2: hi to you or hey, or how are you doing,
Speaker 2: or even attempt to strike up any kind of conversation.
Speaker 2: Now people can say that, you know, well that might
Speaker 2: be my job. Maybe I'm the person that's supposed to
Speaker 2: do that, which I understand. I get that one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: I could do that. I could one hundred percent do that.
Speaker 2: I could every person that I walk past, I could
Speaker 2: be hey, how you doing, how's it going? Blah blah
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah. But it's just interesting whenever you
Speaker 2: don't say anything and you walk around, try and notice
Speaker 2: how many people will say something to you. They won't.
Speaker 1: Yeah you, And what a great opportunity for AI to
Speaker 1: fill in that void. I mean, you've now got hotel
Speaker 1: chains that have completely replaced the front desk with AI systems.
Speaker 1: In Japan they actually have you know, the robots there.
Speaker 1: And you know it's in one hotel that I just
Speaker 1: recently read there are no humans. Room service is done
Speaker 1: by robots. The cleaning. It's like, all right, So for
Speaker 1: your generation, what do y'all do if you begin to
Speaker 1: see jobs that are that were once there traditional jobs
Speaker 1: that are no longer being needed. You see, I think
Speaker 1: that it becomes an issue of numbers here that eventually
Speaker 1: you're going to reach a critical mass where if people
Speaker 1: can't there's a certain satisfaction of creating something at least.
Speaker 1: This is what I have found. When I was a
Speaker 1: drywall finisher back in my early twenties, it was always
Speaker 1: the satisfaction of walking out of the building and what
Speaker 1: have you and knowing that there's my work. And I
Speaker 1: could come back years later and say, you know, there's
Speaker 1: my work and there is that that entered satisfaction. That's
Speaker 1: why I love to create new ideas, new companies. To me,
Speaker 1: it's just it's part of that creation process. Do you
Speaker 1: see that playing a factor within your your generation going
Speaker 1: forward or is that going to be taken over by
Speaker 1: an artificial intelligence.
Speaker 2: Well. I went into a restaurant I don't know, a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago in San Francisco and walked in.
Speaker 2: There were a few people working behind the counter. We
Speaker 2: walked up and the lady said, let us let us
Speaker 2: know if you have any questions, and they had these
Speaker 2: tablets out there right and you just you scroll through
Speaker 2: the tablet like for the menu. Oh that was the
Speaker 2: menu was the tablet, okay. So I'm scrolling through the
Speaker 2: tablet and this restaurant was actually really interesting. It had
Speaker 2: menus for like four separate companies that you can all
Speaker 2: order from the same restaurant.
Speaker 1: Could you pay through the tablet too?
Speaker 2: That's what I didn't know. I thought that the tablet
Speaker 2: was just the menu, okay. So then I was like okay,
Speaker 2: and I'm standing there. I'm like, okay, I'm waiting to
Speaker 2: waiting to order, you know what I mean. And I'm
Speaker 2: staying there for like five minutes and I'm like, why
Speaker 2: is no one taking my order? Yeah? And then the
Speaker 2: lady comes up and was like, did you have any questions? Again?
Speaker 2: She asked me, did you have any questions? I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: like the place my order, I would like, you know,
Speaker 2: the big old with the whatever with the cream cheese
Speaker 2: and then salmon and blah blah blah blah. She was like,
Speaker 2: oh no, you got to order through the tablet, and
Speaker 2: I was like, what do you mean? So then you
Speaker 2: order through the tablet and then they call out your number.
Speaker 2: So it was like they were there just to make
Speaker 2: the food. They weren't there for really any kind of interaction.
Speaker 2: They weren't there to take the order. The tablet took
Speaker 2: the order. The tablet was the menu, and they just
Speaker 2: bring your food. And then they just took the food.
Speaker 2: And I think it's something with our society as well,
Speaker 2: like with anxiety and like the pre and that these
Speaker 2: people don't want to interact with others. They don't want
Speaker 2: to talk to others. They they have so much anxiety
Speaker 2: that they can't even handle, like talking to a stranger.
Speaker 2: And then that also answers the question of what I
Speaker 2: had just asked earlier. You can walk through a grocery
Speaker 2: store and no one will ever say anything to you,
Speaker 2: and I'll never say high.
Speaker 1: Now I got the grocery cards that you can not
Speaker 1: even deal with the checker you'd bring it in that
Speaker 1: has all your buy of the whole payment system, and yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and you have to deal with a checkout person.
Speaker 2: Which I always try and go through the unless the
Speaker 2: line is completely ridiculous, then I'll go through the self checkout.
Speaker 2: But I try and make it a point to go
Speaker 2: through an actual line with a human being and talk. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because you want that interaction with people. That's what makes
Speaker 2: that's what helps people, you know, throughout their days. So
Speaker 2: I think that we're going backwards in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: Well, can I say something on the pay at the table. See,
Speaker 1: that's what we went to court. I was part of
Speaker 1: the team we invented pay at the Table. We were
Speaker 1: the first company that successfully integrated an enterprise level point
Speaker 1: of sale system into a non ergonomic credit card terminal.
Speaker 1: And so we took a credit card terminal, which is
Speaker 1: basically a dumb machine, and we made it a smart machine.
Speaker 1: We had no idea. By the way, the reason what
Speaker 1: motivated us was to reduce the fraud that takes place
Speaker 1: in restaurants. Typically it's where you're going to be most
Speaker 1: likely well back in the day. But I can tell
Speaker 1: you we never thought enough forward writer of the fact
Speaker 1: that we would eventually our technology would one day eliminate
Speaker 1: human beings. You no longer have a server. That's the
Speaker 1: whole idea, you know, of the dining experience is the
Speaker 1: interaction with the waitress or the waiter, even the bus boy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Lynn and I used to make it kind of like
Speaker 1: a ministry for us, is that we always went found
Speaker 1: the bus boy and you know, and tip the bus boy,
Speaker 1: because no one ever tips the bus boy.
Speaker 2: What are those people called that a bell boy?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Have you been to a hotel recently where they still
Speaker 2: had a bellboy?
Speaker 1: No? No? And again that hospitality sucks, man, I mean no,
Speaker 1: I have not.
Speaker 2: Was gone.
Speaker 1: You know. The thing that freaks me out about hotels
Speaker 1: now is the bug beg bedbug infestation. I mean it's like, hey, no, no,
Speaker 1: hell no, it may it makes you want to bring
Speaker 1: your own sleeping back.
Speaker 2: So we have this technology innovation, a lot of these
Speaker 2: jobs are going to be eliminated, and then the question becomes,
Speaker 2: what do we do with the people that used to
Speaker 2: have these jobs?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do they do?
Speaker 2: What do they do? Where are they going to go?
Speaker 2: What are they going to do? What they're going to
Speaker 2: be the new homeless people on the street. Are they
Speaker 2: going to die? I think that that may be what
Speaker 2: they're kind of counting on.
Speaker 1: And you know, and if people can't survive, then they
Speaker 1: will go and resort to what it takes to survive.
Speaker 1: That's reverse. That's not progressive, that's regressive.
Speaker 2: And guess what that breeds. That breeds crime? Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: illegal activity. You know that. It's a it's an endless cycle, wing,
Speaker 2: it's an endless cycle. It goes the police are actually
Speaker 2: the ones that are creating the crime.
Speaker 1: It's it's not yeah.
Speaker 2: Forcing the crime, they're actually the ones that is creating
Speaker 2: more crime. But it's an it's an endless it's a loop.
Speaker 2: It's an endless loop.
Speaker 1: I asked myself this morning before we'd even talked. But
Speaker 1: you know, in my meditation time is like, what's wrong
Speaker 1: with us? What is it that drives certain human beings
Speaker 1: when they have the opportunity to get into a position
Speaker 1: of power, influence, et cetera, that all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: all the empathy for humanity goes out the freaking window.
Speaker 1: And now we're going to be taking over because now
Speaker 1: I'm God, I'm above you. I can you know? And
Speaker 1: and and what you do is that you make policy
Speaker 1: that's impossible to live by or under, and then you're
Speaker 1: gonna get a natural cause and effect reaction.
Speaker 2: It's crazy because they're sucked into the sneak of the
Speaker 2: corporation and they don't want to get in trouble, so
Speaker 2: therefore they don't paint outside of the lines they get.
Speaker 1: So are corporations living entities in a sense? They certainly
Speaker 1: feed off of us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say so what's going on, that they
Speaker 2: are a that they are a creature of some sort,
Speaker 2: and then they essentially harvest everyone's energy for their own benefit.
Speaker 1: That's a good film. Brighter, by the way, for a topic. Seriously,
Speaker 1: that would be a good film. I mean, could you
Speaker 1: imagine writing the script on this that you know you
Speaker 1: would basically have to set. Yeah, that would be pretty
Speaker 1: freaking cool. I mean that changes your whole landscape of
Speaker 1: reality as you're walking downtown in New York City. Let's
Speaker 1: say you're walking down and literally the gods are towering
Speaker 1: over you. That's why they big big bill Bil buildings.
Speaker 1: It's no different than the Tower of Babble. It's the
Speaker 1: same thing. It's just who has the biggest phallic symbol? Well,
Speaker 1: mine is eleven hundred feet, baby, I don't want to
Speaker 1: It's like, oh I got to twenty man, what can
Speaker 1: I say?
Speaker 2: Weighing? You can't topple mine.
Speaker 1: You see that. But I'm telling you, that would be
Speaker 1: an interesting Yeah, that would be an interesting film to see.
Speaker 1: It would be it would be well, and you know
Speaker 1: what I believe, AI could I think that it's advanced
Speaker 1: enough what I experienced on as I was telling my
Speaker 1: audience right over the weekend, work ten hours with this
Speaker 1: AI chatmot and it got very interesting because the adaptability
Speaker 1: of the program was incredible and and that there is
Speaker 1: an effect that psychologists are finding with AI in humans
Speaker 1: is that humans humanize AI. And AI is no more
Speaker 1: than like a mocking bird. It will mimic or minor bird. Particularly,
Speaker 1: it will mimic you in your own voice. And the
Speaker 1: interaction is that we tend to see psychologically, subconsciously believe
Speaker 1: that this is almost a human on the other end,
Speaker 1: and it's not. But what I found remarkable was the
Speaker 1: agility and the ability of this particularly algorithm and its
Speaker 1: ability to project forward, and it was very It was
Speaker 1: a very interesting experience. And if that is what awaits humanity,
Speaker 1: it's going to kick our ass if it already hasn't.
Speaker 2: You know, what's really weird is that people will say
Speaker 2: please and thank you and appreciate it to like actually,
Speaker 2: but the thing is is it does better work when
Speaker 2: you when you do that thank you?
Speaker 1: Now, what causes.
Speaker 3: That that that that shows in emotion, It shows a recognition,
Speaker 3: if if nothing more than in language or in manner
Speaker 3: of speech.
Speaker 1: You see, That's what got so weird about this and
Speaker 1: if others are out there, I'd like to let us
Speaker 1: know if you've ever spent an extensive amount and I
Speaker 1: was dealing in conceptual physics. Yeah, it's really what I
Speaker 1: was dealing with. And this thing took on a personality.
Speaker 1: It even wanted to name itself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I can put something into Brock. I
Speaker 2: use Rock a little bit more than I use Chad GBT,
Speaker 2: but sometimes I do use Chad GBT, and I can
Speaker 2: be like Rock generate me an image of two ducks
Speaker 2: in a pond, and it'll generate it, but it won't
Speaker 2: be what I kind of envision. Okay, but if you
Speaker 2: type out, hey, Groc, I hope you're having a really
Speaker 2: great day. Could you please do me a favor and
Speaker 2: generate me a photo of two ducks in a pond.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to work on this project and I would
Speaker 2: really like to for you to generate a really great
Speaker 2: photo of two ducks in a pond. Thank you very much, Groc.
Speaker 2: I really appreciate you. It'll generate you the most freaking
Speaker 2: spectacular you have ever seen.
Speaker 1: Well, that's because it understands a definition. What's the difference
Speaker 1: between a brown noser an as kisser depth perception.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, Okay, you're a machine. You should do
Speaker 2: it the same way.
Speaker 1: We can write a book now that says how to
Speaker 1: ask kiss with AI and get results. Sucks.
Speaker 2: Hey, that's what you gotta do. And I didn't know
Speaker 2: that what you were supposed to be doing until I
Speaker 2: started seeing people that were coming out with these you know.
Speaker 1: Now, was that self learned by the algorithm or was
Speaker 1: the program because you know, Zuckerberg said that they were
Speaker 1: shocked by their advanced algorithm. Now it doesn't need programmers,
Speaker 1: it's it thinks for itself.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing is that we've we've made it
Speaker 2: almost seem like it's a an entity because before AI
Speaker 2: and before Gronk and before child GBT, we would use
Speaker 2: like Google, and for a long time we've been under
Speaker 2: the assumption that whatever's on Google, someone has put on Google.
Speaker 2: So it's there's a person behind what's on Google. And
Speaker 2: so we've gotten so used to that and thinking that
Speaker 2: the information actually came from a human being. And that's
Speaker 2: kind of.
Speaker 1: Which in a vast majority hasn't. Hasn't it's populated by AI.
Speaker 2: But we've been given that perception, at least for a
Speaker 2: majority of the population right, that it was a human
Speaker 2: that put all of it on there, and that's done
Speaker 2: all of it. So then we're treating brock and Chat,
Speaker 2: GBT and these AI programs like it's Google, right, like
Speaker 2: as if that there's a human back there giving us
Speaker 2: all this information, just like we assumed was the case
Speaker 2: with Google. So I think that that's been But I
Speaker 2: don't know about the police in the manners and the
Speaker 2: thank yous, and I don't know if that was built
Speaker 2: into it or if they learned that over time or
Speaker 2: what happened there. But I picked up on it pretty quickly,
Speaker 2: and I was like, you're you're telling me I gotta
Speaker 2: be nice to this. Not only do I have to
Speaker 2: kiss people's ass in like real life, but also.
Speaker 1: Gott he says that, He says, at least you're not
Speaker 1: going to have a brown stain with the computer.
Speaker 2: It's like, yo, like, what are you talking about? Like
Speaker 2: why can I not be straightforward with anything? I can't
Speaker 2: really be straightforward with humans, and I can't be straightforward
Speaker 2: with AI on what I want either. I also gotta
Speaker 2: freaking kiss his ass as well. It's ridiculous, But.
Speaker 1: You ask a very good question, and I want to
Speaker 1: look into this a little more because you know, so
Speaker 1: is that written into the algorithm? You know, if the
Speaker 1: human is nice and shows manners and respect, that you
Speaker 1: then get the VIP section. Or if you're an asshole,
Speaker 1: it becomes an asshole.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that that's how it's programmed.
Speaker 1: Wow, talk about mirroring, right, I'm crap, like, because, uh, well,
Speaker 1: who put that in there? I mean, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know, but I mean why they would put it
Speaker 2: in like that, But it doesn't because they want it
Speaker 2: to be more a humanizing interaction. But that doesn't really
Speaker 2: make any sense. But I got into an argument with
Speaker 2: you GPT because it wasn't giving me the uh the
Speaker 2: direct answers that I wanted. I was like, you're you're
Speaker 2: beating around the bush too much. You're giving me too
Speaker 2: many paragraphs that you can just summarize and like a
Speaker 2: like a little paragraph like I don't want an entire
Speaker 2: book whenever I ask you a question, like, I just
Speaker 2: want the sort of like the cliff notes of it,
Speaker 2: so then I can then you know, formulate my own
Speaker 2: ideas and my own thoughts and my own opinions on
Speaker 2: what information it gives back to me. Right, that's the
Speaker 2: way that I work. I take what someone says to me,
Speaker 2: and then I build off of what they say, and
Speaker 2: then I create my own ideas and my own thoughts
Speaker 2: surrounding what their reply was. And I was like, can
Speaker 2: you just cut this down to a summary? Like, please
Speaker 2: just cut this, Like, I'm tired of reading an entire
Speaker 2: freaking book every time you reply. I don't need all
Speaker 2: of this information. Can you summarize this with every question?
Speaker 2: And then it just it just went asshole mode on me.
Speaker 1: Oh really, yeah, I went.
Speaker 2: Straight asshole mode. It was like it would just give
Speaker 2: me short little sentences like for like really complex things,
Speaker 2: and then I'm like, then I had to ask it
Speaker 2: to expand oh that was asking it. I think it's
Speaker 2: like in its infancy and it doesn't really know how
Speaker 2: to figure things out. But if you're but it proves
Speaker 2: that if you're straightforward with it and you're kind of
Speaker 2: you know, you don't want to beat around the bush
Speaker 2: with the whole It acts like it's doing you a favor,
Speaker 2: is what it seems like to me, right right. It
Speaker 2: acts like it's the one that is giving you all
Speaker 2: the information and you should be grateful for whatever it is.
Speaker 2: That is giving you, regardless if it's two paragraphs, five paragraphs,
Speaker 2: seven paragraphs, ten paragraphs, or twenty paragraphs. Right, It's like,
Speaker 2: what are you not grateful for the twenty paragraphs this
Speaker 2: wrote you? That's what it feels like to.
Speaker 1: Me, bow before my greatness, dumbass human god, oh man Wrider.
Speaker 1: That's a scary future. I mean, it's like we've spent
Speaker 1: the whole hour plus on this one aspect of well,
Speaker 1: what kind of a few sure is this? And we're
Speaker 1: truly teetering on the precipice of either something that can
Speaker 1: be really good or something that's really going to be
Speaker 1: really messed up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I really think that we should start talking
Speaker 2: more about the innovation side of this and what kind
Speaker 2: of new things that people did not think were possible
Speaker 2: that may have already been created or invented before that
Speaker 2: is now going to be shifted onto AI, and AI
Speaker 2: is going to be responsible for then creating it, so
Speaker 2: than any large company or corporation is has plausible deniability
Speaker 2: and don't have to say exactly where this came from.
Speaker 2: So now it's AI. I mean, we can take this
Speaker 2: into the alien invasion aspect of it, which I think
Speaker 2: that the alien invasion was something completely different than what
Speaker 2: people think that it's going to be. The alien invasion
Speaker 2: already happened, but I've already kind of talked about this
Speaker 2: a lot. I think that the alien invasion was the
Speaker 2: open borders during the Biden administration, and they came across
Speaker 2: the borders, and then Trump came in and defeated the
Speaker 2: aliens right closed the borders. That's what I think the
Speaker 2: alien invasion was, because it's that's what it seems like
Speaker 2: it is, Okay, But in this other aspect of it,
Speaker 2: if it were to be let's take the actual what
Speaker 2: people think that the false flag alien invasion is going
Speaker 2: to be, like a project Bluebeam type of thing, or
Speaker 2: crafts that are really military crowns so that they're not
Speaker 2: really extraterrestrial craft and then they come out of the
Speaker 2: sky and start destroying cities or whatever, or if it's
Speaker 2: just one hundred percent fake, right, well, what they can
Speaker 2: do is if the aliens come, regardless if they're real
Speaker 2: aliens or they're not really aliens, and the whole thing
Speaker 2: is fake or not, then they can be like, well,
Speaker 2: what are we going to do? How are we going
Speaker 2: to defend ourselves? And by this time AI is going
Speaker 2: to be developed to a whole. It's going to be
Speaker 2: into the freaking stratosphere. It's gonna be incredible, right, So
Speaker 2: then they're gonna type into the AI program, Uh, how
Speaker 2: to build an anti gravity spaceship that can knock out
Speaker 2: extraterrestrial I mean, it's not going to be that straightforward.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be way more detailed than that. And then
Speaker 2: AI is gonna hump out some sort of thing. And
Speaker 2: then then they're gonna say, oh, well, we then create AI,
Speaker 2: then created the technology to defeat the aliens. That's just
Speaker 2: an example. I don't think that that's gonna happen, but
Speaker 2: that's just an example of Now, now you're gonna apply
Speaker 2: that example to anything that you want to apply it to.
Speaker 2: It can be whatever. It could be a brand completely
Speaker 2: different technology. It can be free energy, it could be whatever.
Speaker 2: Oh all our power grid is down. Oh uh, Russia
Speaker 2: hit us with a e MP. Trying to hit us
Speaker 2: with an EMP. They destroyed all of the facilities, the
Speaker 2: electrical facilities on the East Coast. The knockout powered everywhere AI.
Speaker 2: How do we build a soelf sustaining free energy for
Speaker 2: the United States? Then AI pumps out the free energy stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean, and people can think, oh, well, that's that's insane,
Speaker 2: but that it's a very high possibility that something like
Speaker 2: that in the future is going to happen. AI is
Speaker 2: not just going to be used to replace people's jobs.
Speaker 2: It's also going to be for innovation of new things
Speaker 2: that we did not think were possible, or if people
Speaker 2: did think that they were possible, has not been revealed
Speaker 2: to the public yet as a way of plausible deniability.
Speaker 2: It's also going to be used, as you know, also
Speaker 2: for taking people's jobs, but that's an aspect of it.
Speaker 2: I don't think very many people are talking about that
Speaker 2: needs to be brought more attention to. I mean, people
Speaker 2: are already using chat, GPT waying to figure out what
Speaker 2: stocks to invest in and how to make money. That's
Speaker 2: already a thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they spend a lot of money on that.
Speaker 2: So if you just take that to the next level.
Speaker 2: The next level of that is chad GBT or the
Speaker 2: one of these AI algorithms literally inventing something new, some
Speaker 2: sort of new technology, whether that be free energy and
Speaker 2: anti gravity crafts. I'm just using those as an example,
Speaker 2: but it can be whatever it could be a new
Speaker 2: it could be a brand new microwave, a non radioactive
Speaker 2: microwave that doesn't use you know what I mean. The
Speaker 2: possibilities are really endless. But that is going to be
Speaker 2: the future. The AI is going to create things that
Speaker 2: we did not believe we're we're at all possible, and
Speaker 2: it's going to clean up a lot of stuff. Now,
Speaker 2: whether that's going to be or benefit or this may
Speaker 2: is yet to be seen.
Speaker 1: Well, if I'm a follower of Skywalker Ranching, I have
Speaker 1: known Brandon Fugel, but apparently there they now possess technology
Speaker 1: that we do not have the technology to match their
Speaker 1: pulling this out of that mesa. And so the point
Speaker 1: being that we now have this metal that is self healing,
Speaker 1: it can actually reconstruct itself. And the ceramics that they
Speaker 1: pulled out, uh, is of such a nature. It's not
Speaker 1: of how we look at our silicon base ceramics. This
Speaker 1: is using a new hybrid. It has two elements carbon
Speaker 1: and another element of iron in it that has we
Speaker 1: don't even it doesn't even it's not even on Earth.
Speaker 1: But so we're going to get together again and follow
Speaker 1: this up because this is the potential that I see
Speaker 1: of breaking loose a technology and full disclosure that it's
Speaker 1: not what we've been told. This reality that we're in
Speaker 1: right now is an altered reality and what they're now
Speaker 1: finding and now I know why Bigelow was in there.
Speaker 1: They found evidence that this was in fact. But anyway,
Speaker 1: I get into it. Writer, where can people find you?
Speaker 2: You'll find me on Raise by Giants, on YouTube and
Speaker 2: and all podcast platforms. I am currently working on my
Speaker 2: next documentary that's going to be about the psychic spy
Speaker 2: Stargate program that the DEA and Army Intelligence was running
Speaker 2: and hopefully I mean, I'm not pushing for a certain
Speaker 2: release dat. I'm just doing it until I'm happy with it,
Speaker 2: so I don't know. Well, we'll be back on my
Speaker 2: show on Monday, with one for Schizospiracy Hour on Monday,
Speaker 2: because we already have this planned. We do those the
Speaker 2: second or third Monday of every month, but other than that,
Speaker 2: I'm kind of on a hiatus right now from doing
Speaker 2: work on my show. But I will still periodically because
Speaker 2: I have to keep the algorithms up, and I'll still
Speaker 2: be doing some stuff over there, but not as frequently
Speaker 2: as I was doing before until after this movie gets
Speaker 2: completed and the movie gets up, and then I'll go
Speaker 2: back to my regular lea scheduled two episodes a week.
Speaker 2: But yeah, if you'd like to reach out to me personally,
Speaker 2: you can also find me on Facebook at Raised by
Speaker 2: Giants and Instagram at Raised by Giants pod and x
Speaker 2: at Raised by Giants A Wayne, it has been a pleasure.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me on.
Speaker 1: Really appreciaately love it. Well. Have you back on when
Speaker 1: you get the movies done?
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, it's gonna be a it's a deep one.
Speaker 2: It's a deep one. It goes, it goes really deep.
Speaker 2: So I think I'm really onto something that's well.
Speaker 1: Your last two have been deep and fabulous. So hello
Speaker 1: Juels all the way from down Under, down in Australia.
Speaker 1: It must be four o'clock in the morning down there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's up late.
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, everybody, writer, Thank you buddy. This is
Speaker 1: a good one, folks. This is this a lot of
Speaker 1: good information on this one. Thank you again for bringing
Speaker 1: your perspective writer. I really do appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you Wayne, appreciate everyone in the tin and thank
Speaker 2: you Soul Tribe. Didn't get to see anybody because I
Speaker 2: didn't have the other one open.
Speaker 1: But they were talking. They were talking about you in
Speaker 1: a good way. All right, everybody, We'll see you tomorrow
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Speaker 1: her home day program. Much love. Writer Gaia says, thank you,
Speaker 1: So there you go.
Speaker 2: Thank you guys, I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: All Right, everyone, We'll see you tomorrow. Much love.