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much for your support. We still I still have a

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lot of messages to get through, and we had some

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phone calls from people throughout the last two hours, some

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you know, not so great, having a hard time coming

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up with some sort of excuse to rationalize this and

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why people on the rights, we're just making too much

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out of this assassination of Charlie Kirk, a man with

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somebody pointed out on the text line eighty five million followers.

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It was a very public figure. He was a person

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engaged in the political debate in the arena. He was

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shot from distance at two hundred yards roughly from a

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rooftop by a gunman who laid in wait for him

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and according to law enforcement, had etchings or markings on

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the AMMO of transgender slogans and anti fascism slogans, or

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as CNN called it, cultural sayings. That's what they identified

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it as. There was a news conference apparently scheduled for

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twelve forty five Utah time, which would have been about

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fifteen minutes ago our time, but it was postponed due

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to quote rapid developments. So hopefully they caught him or her.

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I don't want him misgender. Actually, I will let me

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go over and get Joe on real quick. Hello, Joe,

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welcome to the program.

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Speaker 2: Hey man, Yeah, your last done in the head that

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was screaming and hollering about this wasn't political. I mean,

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like you just said, how do you You're known by

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eighty five million people on social media followers and it's

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because you're a conservative Republican and that's what you do

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for a living, and it's not political. I just I

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don't get it. And your definition of assassiation a public figure, well,

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I don't know, you get more of a public figure

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besides the president. Let's got eighty five million followers. I

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don't you know?

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Speaker 1: Again, just not rational, right, it's trying to search for

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an excuse to minimize and dismiss the importance. And honestly,

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I am encouraged by that kind of reaction that I

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have heard from sort of the usual suspect callers that

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we've gotten today. I'm encouraged because there is no argument

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that they are making that is cogent or coherent. There

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yet you yet, they know how bad this is, because

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they have just red pilled millions and millions of people

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and that may never look at a Democrat to vote

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forever again.

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Speaker 2: Ever, Yeah, because I mean it's just it's we're getting

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sick and tired of this. I mean, I don't have it.

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Like Russia used to say, they can't win on the

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in the UH, in the debate of ideas, right, they

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have to stack the court, they have to cheat on

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UH elections, and now they've got to kill people because

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they're losing. They can't they can't win on their on

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the merits.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Leftism at its core is always about envy and force, yes, always,

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I mean that's what Marxism is and so.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, I mean that's what the Castro was. Oh, you know,

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we're going to give you more of the rich people.

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You know, they're horrible, blah blah blah blah blah. Well,

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you know, if it wasn't for Cargie and Morgan and

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you know, our country would never be as great as

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it was.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean again, but all of these historical

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figures that you just mentioned, they are all uh, you know,

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portions of good and bad because they were human beings, right,

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so they did exactly exactly right, right, they did good,

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they did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I loved I used to love rush with

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always at Thanksgiving, and that's coming up always. The real

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story of Thanksgiving is when they came over in the Mayflower.

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They actually set up a socialist government and it failed.

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It wasn't because they didn't know how to you know,

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some of it was they didn't know the lay at

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the land. But the reason it failed is for human nature.

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and they kept taking from the common store, right, and

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they starved to death. And then they realized that was

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and work. Until then they set up basically a capitalistic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, private property.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were like, okay, you can do what you

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want with your property and you can sell the access

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and you know, and then it thrived. It works, Yeah

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every time. You know, it's just because human nature is

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some people are going to be lazy and some people aren't,

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you know, Yeah, the best you know, and it's you know,

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there is no perfect system, but it's the best one

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on the planet because the other way doesn't work. And

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it's all about only the top get rich and only

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the top gets stuff, and all it does is bring

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everybody down to a low level.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the free market recognizes human nature. Marxism denies human nature,

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which is why you need force to make it to

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employ it, and that, of course leads to all of

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the body bags that Marxism has attached to its name. Joe,

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I appreciate the call, man, Yes, sir, good to hear

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from you. All right, let me go and talk with Bill.

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Hello Bill, Bill.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Yes, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, a question, what.

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Speaker 3: Was the motive of the man who attempted to assassinate

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President Trump in Pennsylvania?

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Speaker 1: What was the motive of the man who oh the

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trumpet the Trump assassination in Butler? Yeah, we don't know.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So how do we know the motive of the

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person who attempted to assassinate or did assassinate Charlie Kirk,

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Which is horrible, by the.

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Speaker 1: Way, because we know more about the AMMO and the

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scrawlings that were.

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Speaker 3: On the AMMO and what were the scrawlings.

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Speaker 1: Transgender sayings and slogans and quote anti fascism slogans.

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Speaker 3: Has anybody seen them? Anybody?

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Speaker 1: It seems like you're trying to move the goalposts a

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little bit here, But I mean, has anybody seen any

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of the AMMO from the Butler shooting?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I just think that since this has happened, there's been

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assumptions that this person was anti Trump, and we don't

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know yet.

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Speaker 1: No, No, I think he was anti Charlie Kirk. I

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did say anti Trump. I've never said anti Trump. I

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said this is I said that this is a political assassination.

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They targeted Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 3: I just think that when when each side calls each

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other evil, it's wrong. When each side tries to attribute

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this to Marxism, that's wrong. When someone calls me a

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moderate Democrat a Marxist, it troubles me because I'm conservative

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on on on national policy, I'm liberal on social policy.

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I am not and never will be a Marxist. Anybody

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who accused me of Marxist is wrong. When I vote

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for Democrats, I think painting with a broadbrush, using the

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word evil to apply to either side when we don't assume.

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I don't assume every Republican is evil, okay? You Democrats

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is evil? Or a Marxist buil?

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Speaker 1: Do you differentiate between leftism and liberalism?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Those are both loaded terms and the definitions are

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so broad you can't separate the two.

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Speaker 1: So so you don't. You don't differentiate between being a

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leftist and being a liberal.

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Speaker 3: I think the labels are all wrong.

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Speaker 1: We're all pr Well, you called yourself a conservative, progress

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that label wrong.

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Speaker 3: I'm progressive and liberal. Okay, So given liberal and think

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that we ought to we ought to take the most

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aggressive steps possible to end the war in Ukraine by

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penalizing Putin and Russia. Well that that depths possible.

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Speaker 1: That's not progressive or liberal. There are conservatives that believe

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that too. That's my question is whether or not you

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make any kind of differentiation. No, because look, Donald Trump

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is a lifelong Democrat, Like I understand about the mixture

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of the labels. What he is. He was, that's not

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a lie.

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Speaker 2: He was and he's not.

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Speaker 3: He's not a conservative for that.

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Speaker 1: No, for sure, I've been saying that for a decade.

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I've been saying that for a decade. But I don't

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understand what point you think that makes when you're not

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even willing to differentiate between a leftist and a liberal.

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Speaker 3: I am leftist. Leftist sounds like Marxist, sounds like it

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is liberal?

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Speaker 2: Can be?

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Speaker 1: Do you think? Okay? So I will use your term

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that I So leftists are Marxists, they're communists. Okay, that's

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what a leftist is. Okay, So you and you're not? Okay?

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So do you think Marxism is evil?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Okay? So if there were Marxists in the Democrat Party,

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would you call them evil?

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Speaker 3: If you if they meet the definition of Marxism.

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Speaker 1: Like if they were self described socialists, would that matter?

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Speaker 3: AOC is not a Marxist, she's a socialist. She's liberal

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on social issue.

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Speaker 1: No, she's a socialist either. She is a member of

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the Democrat Socialists of America.

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Speaker 3: Your your job is so much easier to attract people

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to your view if you'd let with these the fairy.

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Speaker 1: That's her label. She chose the label. She willingly joined

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that association. I didn't do that to her. So do

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you think so? Do you think you just said, Max.

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You said, I asked you if Marxism is evil.

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Speaker 3: Marxist.

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Speaker 1: I'm not asking about her, I'm asking about Marxism. Is

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it evil?

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Speaker 3: It's evil?

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Speaker 1: Okay? So if so, do you consider socialism to be Marxism? No,

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what's the difference.

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Speaker 3: It's a spectrum?

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Speaker 1: How like, what's the difference between socialism and Marxism?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 1: What's the spectrum under? What's the big umbrella that the

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spectrum lives under?

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Speaker 3: Well, the point is no, no answer the.

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Speaker 1: Question, Bill, No answer my question. I've heard your point.

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You've made it several different ways. I'm asking you said,

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it's a spectrum. I want to know what the name

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of that spectrum is.

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Speaker 3: Political.

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Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. That makes no sense at all.

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Speaker 3: It's the political spectrum.

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Speaker 1: No, So you're okay, So you're saying that. So you're

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saying that socialism and Marxism are different by degree not distinction.

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Speaker 3: Oh, those are those are very similar words. They're both,

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they're both distinctive. They're different. And how for a degree?

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Speaker 1: How how are they different? That's what I was asking.

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How is socialism different than Marxism?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Well, I don't have a PhD in political science.

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Speaker 1: You don't need one. You had, you had opinions about

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them being different, So I'm sure you know why they're

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different because you believe them to be different.

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Speaker 3: You may feel like I've got ld I'm gonna cut

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Speaker 1: No, I've already kept your long. I've already kept you

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two minutes too long. I'm asking you to define the difference,

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because you said there's a difference, Bill, So if there's

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a difference, tell me what it is.

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Speaker 3: I believe that if you took all of the elements

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of socialism and stacked them up, and all of the

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elements of Marxism, you would and stack them up. What

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you would find is that the elements of Marxism are

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more extreme and severe, such as you're pure communist. Pure

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communism believes that there is no capitalism. Pure communism believes

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that it is only the group. Everybody takes from the group,

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everybody gives to the group. There's no individuality. Marxism is

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more like that than socialism. Bernie Sanders, he says he's

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a socialist. I'm not sure, but he's not a Marxist.

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Speaker 1: You still haven't told me what the difference between Marxism

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and socialism is you went to communism, which, by the way,

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that is Marxism as well. So like you're you're all

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over the place. It sounds like, Bill, it sounds like

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what you're telling me is that is that socialism is

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sort of a light version of communism.

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Speaker 3: It's correct.

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Speaker 1: It's a good version, no.

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Speaker 1: Right, so it's it's a neutral version. I did call

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you evil. I'm trying to figure out how you are

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so sure of these terms and the philosophies and you're

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taking offense to being called evil when no one's called

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you evil. I'm so, I'm trying to figure out how

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you have become so sure of these things yet don't

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know the underlying definitions of the things that have so

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offended you.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to go spend a couple of hours and

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I'm going to drop you an email. Okay, I'm gonna say, yeah.

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Speaker 1: You do that. You're the difference, all right, you do that.

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Explain to me the difference there. I appreciate it. Bill,

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have a great day. So when I was a kid,

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my grandpa died with Alzheimer's, and before he died, my

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mom and my dad took care of him as he

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got worse. Forty years ago, there were no treatments and

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not much support for caregivers and family. But things are

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different today because of the work of so many people,

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including the Alzheimer's Association of Western Carolina. It's a great

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organization with awesome people with huge hearts. I've been a

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supporter for twenty five years. This caused means a lot

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to me. I participate in the annual Walk to End

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Alzheimer's and I'm leading a Charlotte team again this year,

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and it's called once again Pete's Pack. You can sign

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up and you can join the team and walk with us.

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It's on October eighteenth, that truest field. Sign up at

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alz dot org slash walk and then you can search

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for my team name Pete's Pack. There's also a link

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at thepetepod dot com. There's also a link in the

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description of this podcast. Also, I'll be am seeing the

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Gastonia Walk on October eleventh, and so you can make

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a team and join that one too, or make a

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donation and help me hit my goal of five thousand dollars.

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If you do, I really appreciate it. There are a

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bunch of other walks all over the Carolinas. You can

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go to alz dot org slash walk for all the

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dates and locations. We're closer than ever to stopping Alzheimer's.

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Can you help us get there? Will you walk with me?

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For a different future, for families, for more time for treatments.

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This is why we walk again. Like in these types

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who I find to be more insightful and wiser than

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for example, this guy's on social media. He goes by

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the name of Gummy. He says, it's clear to me

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from the media coverage and the reactions that the left

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does not understand who Charlie Kirk was or what he

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represented for the conservative movement, and I don't think they're

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prepared for the backlash that'll follow. And I think that's correct.

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I do. I think that's correct. There are a lot

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of people, particularly older people, that do not understand who

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Charlie Kirk was and what he meant for a lot

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of young people in America. Here's another one. He goes

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by the name of coddled affluent professional. On Twitter, he says,

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I mean this and everything else. The reputational threats, the coercion,

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the censorship apparatus, the relentless media propaganda, the constant lies

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and dissembling. It's all downstream of constant losing. I think

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what we're seeing for the first time in decades is

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real politics where major material interests and real power are

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at stake. For a long time, electing a Democrat or

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progress that they supposed was inevitable anyway. Well that's all

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up for grabs now, along with a tremendous amount of

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cultural power and social authority. So Libs feel their interests

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are being threatened on all sides. A lot of this

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technological succession and post war ideological dispensations being well beyond

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concrete and perceptible manifestations of these threats, and that's why

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and state censorship and libs screaming about how Nazism and

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that get most angry with the labels are angry because

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they know the labels are true. Call or Bill opposes

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political labels because they accurately define positions. The left know

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their opinions are typically not well received, they have to

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lie and dull them up. You rarely hear a conservative

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complain about being called conservative, which is a great point, Kenny,

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Thank you. People call me, oh, you're just a capitalist,

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Oh you're a conservative, Oh you're a libertarian. Whatever. I

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get called these names, and it's like, yeah, I don't

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ever run from those labels, just like they do generally define. Now,

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if someone says, oh, you're a Republican, okay, well I'm

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not that. I'm not a registered Republican, but I do

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vote more Republican. They represent more of my views, way

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more than the Democrats do. But I'm not a registered Republican.

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swapping out their names progressive liberal, Well I guess that's it,

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really progressive liberal. They swap They go back and forth

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trying to think of the others. I mean, they'll just say, oh,

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you know, democrat, I'm a conservative Democrat whatever, So they

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and taken over by Democrats, Socialists of America candidates, they're not.

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that philosophy because truth be told, they are they are

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closer to that than or No. I shouldn't say that,

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because I do believe in the Dennis Praeger axiom on this,

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which is that conservatives vot vote their principles, leftists vote

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their principles, but liberals do not because they don't want

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to acknowledge that they're actually closer to Republicans or conservatives

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than they are to the leftists. Let me go over

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and get Alex on. Hello Alex, thanks for hanging on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so, I just I want to kind of give

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coming from. I do not I mean I don't subscribe

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too much with Charlie Kirby's to say, I don't think

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I don't agree to some of the things you say

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on this program and some of them on this radio station.

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I think, you know, if you have to look at

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sort of Marxists, and you know a lot of labels

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that I do see they do come home from the

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right of them from the left, but maybe some degrees

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to the left as well, but.

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Speaker 1: No, not maybe Alex. I'll stop you right there. Have

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you heard the terms nazi? Have you heard the term yeah,

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fascist but racist, but texist, omophobe, xenophobe, islamophobe.

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I mean, there's nobody's Naza. I mean, nasi's very hard

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having to earned. I don't think there's a lot of

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sort of maybe self described Marxism, but they're not really Marxist.

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Speaker 1: So I would well, I would venture, but I would.

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I would simply say this, though, is that the use

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of those terms against your fellow Americans, calling them, not

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saying that you personally, but using those kinds of terms.

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Speaker 4: Understand not just the people, that's just the people who

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don't understand what's Nazis were, I mean.

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Speaker 1: The well, but also fascists authoritarian, I mean it's totalitarian.

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Speaker 4: It's I I would actually be okay with totilitarian to

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Speaker 1: Sure you would to, yeah, but but not but to

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a degree again, I mean, yeah, remember who was it? Who?

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But who was it that shut down all of the

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all of the governments and such? Who was it that

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did the mask mandates and the who is it that

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did the uh, the the shot the vaccine mandates? That

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would you consider that to be totalitarian?

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but with those due respect, I never really

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had any problems with that because some sort of she's

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done for the greater good of country.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 2: You can have that debate, you can have the debate, but.

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Speaker 1: My point, I believe it's not a debate. Alex, you're

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proving my point.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I mean I feel like that was gone

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for the better of society, right, which is sort of.

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Speaker 1: That's what and that's what people on the left always believe.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, we can always talk about what Christian

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nationalism is and things like that and what they believe

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and how crazy that is. But what I did want

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to talk about is this. I look again, I like

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I said before, I don't I don't really subscribe to

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anything what Charlie Kirk was saying. Of course he's not.

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This is the stupidest thing ever. It's a senseless act

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that really does not serve any purpose to anybody. It

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is absolutely idiotic thing that anybody could do. And it's

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just there's really no there's nothing you can say really

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about it. From my perspective anyway, what what what? What

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Speaker 2: Is just typical.

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Speaker 4: And again, maybe this is going to be problem in

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popular opinion, but this could have been something that at

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the very least Trump could have shown and and and

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show some sort of humility and understanding that this country

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is very much divided. I guarantee you if this would

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have been a situation where Obama, Biden, Trump, anybody except

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for Trump and not Trump, I'm sorry Bush, they would

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have come out and they would have been a statement

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trying to bring the country together. It would have been

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a statement, not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Alex, I'm going to stop Alex. No, I got you.

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I'm going to stop you there, hang on, hang on,

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hang on, Alex, I'm gonna stop you there. And I'm

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going to tell you that we are past that point.

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Speaker 4: But but this is the job of a president to

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come this country.

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Speaker 1: We did horrible stupid.

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Speaker 3: Did not saying happened?

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Speaker 4: Why No, his statement came out and he was just

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lambasting Democrats, lambasting left Wilkins, left, left and right. It

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is that was wrong. That was just a stupid This

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was the opportunity, a horrible opportunity, stupid opportunity should not

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have come around. But if this is this was the

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moment for him to step up and be a leader

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that you people think he is. This was that she

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should not have come out of the way he did.

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Speaker 1: I am shocked to learn that Trump did not fulfill

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your expectations.

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Speaker 2: But exactly but what.

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Speaker 1: He never would, he never can. This is why. See

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So here is this what I mean, Alex, Yesterday's assassination

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of charge Alex stop, stop, stop stop, Alex stop Alex. Okay,

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stop there you go. Now you are stopped. This is

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the thing. Yesterday's assassination of Charlie Kirk has reoriented our society.

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You may not realize it. You may maybe you do,

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and maybe that's what you're kind of nervous about right now.

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But everything has shifted, The vibe has shifted, and we

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had presidents Republican presidents that would always dutifully go up

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and say the things that you wanted Donald Trump to say,

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even though if he had said them, I'm sure that

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would not have sufficiently been adequate for you either. But

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I don't know. I'll give you the benefit of the

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doubt and say that, yeah, maybe Trump could have surprised

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you and you would have said, did a good job there, Donald,

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But Republicans in the past have said the very thing

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that you want Trump to have said, and we keep

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seeing these types of attacks. It's not working. So you

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guys on the left are going to have to rain

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in your leftist nut jobs. That is on you. Meanwhile,

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the Trump administration, I suspect, is going to use the

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full force of the federal government and the DOJ to

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start cracking down on these left wing organizations and agitators,

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at least I hope. So I appreciate the call. Alex.

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All Right, you hear me talk a lot about incentives, right, Well,

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let's talk about incentive trips, the kind that companies offer

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employees to fire them up and reward their teams. If

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you own a business or you work somewhere that offers

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these incentive trips, First off, good for you. But also

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there is a custom app that's a game change for

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these trips. It's called Incentive Tripkit. Private group messaging, shared photos,

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your itinerary, travel details, all built into a single, easy

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to use app. There's even a traveler locator, so carl

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from Accounting doesn't get left behind. The best part about

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Incentive Tripkit it's totally private. No email captures, no sign ups,

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no cringe ads. It's simple, clean and secure. And when

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the trip is over, Incentive trip Kit turns those highlights

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into a professional storytelling video. So think about it. When

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you launch next year's incentive trip campaign, that video becomes

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your greatest motivator. Talk about a return on investment, Right,

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you got to check out incentive trip Kit for your business.

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Visit incentive tripkit dot com. Because great trips deserve even

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better returns. Let's bring this baby in for a landing.

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I know I got a bunch of people on hold.

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I still have a ton of messages too. Uh, let

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me go and get Mary on Hello Mary, welcome to

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the program.

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Speaker 5: Hey, thanks for having me. Of course, I'm totally devastated

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by Charlie's murder, but I want to just say something

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what I feel that we really need to look at

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at the basis of every single thing he ever testified.

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And by the way, if you look back at some

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of his challenges, he ran circles around not the students

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at Cambridge University and Oxford, but the professors.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he destroyed them. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And the thing is it all goes back to the

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Christian faith. And you know when he was contested in

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one of these arguments, not with a professor, with somebody

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else that was like, oh, the deparation of a dependence

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really only says God.

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Speaker 1: Like, I actually have that clip. I have the clip.

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I can play it for you. I think, Well, Nick, producer,

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Nick back in the studio, do you have the uh

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do you have the clip? It's Kirk on Christian Nation

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is the name of the clip. All right, let's fire

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it up for Mary. This is what she's talking about.

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Speaker 6: Feels found on common law because the Declaration only refers

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to God four times in the Constitution, doesn't refer to

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God at all, and it only articulates the structure of government.

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Speaker 7: So first of all, remember that we were a collection

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of states and colonies, and you need to read the

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state constitutions or anything else. Thirteen or thirteen required a

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declaration of faith. In almost every single one of the

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original state constitutions, they had I profess Lord in Jesus

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Christ as my Lord and Savior. Secondly, fifty five and

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fifty six of the original assigners of the declaration or

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Bible believing church tending Christians. If you ask about common law,

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let's go to three principles of common law, assumption of medicense,

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due process, and dur of your peers, all three of

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biblical principles, so and all wrapped into the ultimate Biblical

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principle that you shall not favor justice if you are

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richer report, which is in Leviticus nineteen, which is the

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idea of blind justice, which is incorporated also in the

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New Testament ideal. Neither slave, nor Greek nor jew You're

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all one in Jesus Christ, as you have to edip

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human equality. These are all Biblical ideas. But more importantly

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than that, they say that God was only mentioned four

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times in the Declaration of Independence.

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Speaker 1: Well that's a big deal.

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Speaker 7: John Adams seamlessly said the Constitution was only written for

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a moral and religious people. It was wholly inadequate for

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the people of any other The body politic of America

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was so Christian that our form and structure of government

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was built for the people that believed in.

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Speaker 1: Christ, our Lord.

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Speaker 7: One of the reasons we're living through a constitutional crisis

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is that we no longer have a Christian nation, but

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we have a Christian form of government, and they're incompatible.

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So you cannot have liberty if you do not have

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a Christian population.

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Speaker 1: All right, So whether you agree with that or not,

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does it matter. But he makes the case and he

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engages people with those facts and with the philosophy.

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Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing. I mean, I think the part

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where it's not agree or not is the part that

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it's pure fact, that it is our history. And I

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just think that the undermining of this fact that that's

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like it or not, the fact is that is how

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our nation was founded on those ideals and principle. So

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like the schools that are not teaching that are failing

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our students because they're leaving out the fundamentals of this

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form of government. And I believe that's the job that

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we have before us, is to really go after the

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education system and make it staptual. Like I met a

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lobbyist who's trying to get church and state separated more.

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I met her in the Bahamas and she talked about

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like how they were trying to get the Ten Commandments

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out of Alabama, how that's the new thing they're fighting.

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And I said, hey, I think you're on the wrong

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side of this battle. The founders were way more Christians

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than you think, and their intent was never to eliminate that.

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It was to always keep it pure. And it gave

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us the best economy in the world so quickly.

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Speaker 1: That's going to be taught, right, Well, it unleashed the

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potential of all human beings, right, that's the idea. That's

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what the free market capitalist system does. It releases all

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potential to allow people to pursue things that interest them. Yes,

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for self interest, but also if you make something that

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nobody wants, you're not going to be You're not going

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to make any profits. So you are incentivized to make

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something that people want and need that betters the society.

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That's the beauty of it. Now, does that mean everything

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ever invented is for the good of society? No, there

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are some bad things. Obviously, we are all humans, and

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humans do bad stuff, you know, that's.

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Speaker 5: But the invisible hand, you know, the invisible hand of

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the economy is the whole basis of what's going to succeed. Right,

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that invisible hand, thing like what's necessary will rise to

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the top and succeed. Just what you said. And Harvard,

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of course started as a divinity school, and their logo

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was changed. You know, it was a divinity school before

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it was a secular university, and their logo had been

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changed when it changed secular. The three Open Books, they

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started out as the two open books in the crest,

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with the one on the top as a as a

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book facing downward, and that symbolized that we are to

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get all of our scholarly knowledge that we can from

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study on earth, but there is some knowledge that only

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comes from Heaven, from God himself. That's what the Harvard

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logo was. And of course the secular movement that's been

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now defining our time as very ungodly, it started at

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those universities and it pushed God out.

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Speaker 1: Mary, I got a right. I do appreciate the call

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good to hear from you. Thanks so much. I will

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close real quick. Obviously. It is September eleventh, going into

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nine to eleven. It's always a tough time of year

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for a lot of people. It's already a heavy time

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of year. This day is filled with sorrow and remembrance

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and memories, and obviously now after the murder of Charlie Kirk,

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the murder of the Arenas, the Routska on the train.

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So if you are of the praying kind of a person,

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please say some prayers for all those in pain, for

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comfort and for strength. Brett Warnable's up next. I will

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see you tomorrow. Don't break anything while I'm gone. All right,

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that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much

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for listening. I could not do the show without your

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