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Speaker 4: The fan get to get into some.
Speaker 3: BYU football talk, University of Utah discussion as well as
Mark Carlan is is ultimately in the is facing controversial
statements again, at least from the purview of BYU fans.
Speaker 4: We'll delve into that. What is mar Carland tweeting about? Now?
Speaker 3: Shouldn't they shut down Mark Carlan's Twitter accounties the question?
Does Taylor Randall and the University of You say, you
know what? No more tweets, no more public relations, no
more getting in front of a mic. We're gonna shut
you down. Let's have you worked behind the scenes. We'll
delve into that. BAU basketball talkis always as we're getting closer,
inch and closer to March Madness and much more here
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introduce you to my co host and the rest of
the start start a cash joining us for this Friday, January.
Speaker 4: I can't believe we're January sixteenth already. This is the day.
I can't believe. I just realized it.
Speaker 3: In two thousand and two, when Benjamin Joseph Cridle Elder
Criddle entered into the Mission Training Center to learn Spanish
and get prepped for the Spokane, Washington Spanish speaking mission.
The best two years of my life, no doubt about it.
Some of the hardest as well. Can't believe it's January sixteenth,
But we're happy, we're excited. Maybe we'll tell some missionary
training stories today and to talk.
Speaker 4: To work Dotts.
Speaker 3: Let's welcome in to the show the Guy behind the
Glass Ronald the three man we particular bruser, co host, host,
co host and host uh and doing all manner of
things behind the glasses.
Speaker 4: Up, Ronny, what's up?
Speaker 5: I didn't know that you went into the the NTC
around this time, so that's a good to know. I
know you went on your mission, I knew the new
of the year.
Speaker 4: Didn't know specifically the day.
Speaker 5: Thought you left in the summer, but that's good to
know that you left in January.
Speaker 4: That was a mid year guy, Bide.
Speaker 3: I went up for a semester at Eastern Arizonia Junior
College where I was coached up by the one the
only Kilani Sitake. He was my cornerback's coach there at
Eastern Arizona and Safford and Washed Safford and Thatcher Arizona.
And it was a glorious time in my life. It
had spent the semester down there where Spencer W. Kimple
was born and raised, the former prophet of the church
Jesus Christ Latorty Saints.
Speaker 4: And then I went on.
Speaker 3: The mission thrusted in my sickle with my mi wish
I would have had an Odeon menswear suit to help me,
aid me and support me and all of the the
bike riding that I did at all of my locations
on the mission in the in the West Stern sorry,
in the Eastern Washington area. I served an awesome mission.
It was the best mission for me. Learned a lot
and uh yeah, lessons to this day. The blessings to
this day showcase are showcased every single day of my life. Ron,
I appreciate you being here, showing up, showing out. Let's
also welcome in Brett always bringing the hammer hammertime show
what's up hammer time. You're almost on the same timeline
as we Rider Lions. Somebody posted a picture of him
at the airport heading out yesterday, so other Lions leaving
around around the same time as one.
Speaker 4: Ben.
Speaker 3: It's actually a good time because you know, depending on
the the transfers and things of that nature, you can
get in like you'll maybe come home like right after
December and get enrolled and you can get right into
it right and and and so I think I may
have come home a transfer early because of that, I
believe right, because i'd gone in and Jane sixteenth. At
any rate, it's a good time, it really is to
get out there and and uh and serve as a
media especially with with springball right around. But if you
can get back and start to work out and yeah,
and then by about March, you're you're limited. I don't
think you're you're in full fledged football mode just yet,
but you can start acclimating in March and get into
the swing of things before you get into the office
and the true off season, getting bigger, faster and strong
and being health become August is the kid. Yeah, I
got home and college didn't really exist. I don't know
if you remember, a little thing called COVID happened. I
came home, I think three days after the world shut down.
Speaker 4: We had we had at least you didn't have to
serve during COVID.
Speaker 3: No, that's I'm so, but we had. We had a
girl in our mission who ended up like she couldn't
fly back. I think it was Tonga. She ended up
getting like her mission got extended, I think like six
months because they literally could not fly her home.
Speaker 4: We had.
Speaker 3: That was also the same day that there was an
earthquake at the Salt Airport. I don't know if I
remember that, So a huge landing strip was all kinds
of messed up, and so the kids who were flying
from Alberta to Salt Lake, there were a bunch of them.
Speaker 4: They had to rent a.
Speaker 3: Car and drive down and then pray that they would
let them across the border. And they were really stingy
at the border because it was COVID and everything. So,
I mean, there's lots of great times to leave and
lots of great times to come home. But didn't matter
because when I came home, the world was on the
verge of ending.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it just shut down. You were wearing your mask.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, well, actually, when I was flying home,
masks hadn't happened yet.
Speaker 4: Okay, so I was like right before that.
Speaker 3: And then yeah, when I got home, they were like, yeah,
so the world's pretty much shut down now. We just
hang out and watched movies all day. I'm like, honestly,
this doesn't sound that bad to me. I'm sure it's
rough for lots of other people, but I didn't seen
my family in two years, so I man, man, we
binged movies for weeks during COVID, and yeah, college didn't exist,
so I didn't have a school to go home to.
Speaker 1: When I got home.
Speaker 4: So what did you accomp during the month after your mission?
Speaker 3: Oh dude, I think I watched every Marvel movie from
Iron Man to Endgame.
Speaker 4: I watched a ton of movies.
Speaker 3: We played a ton of pickup basketball because my brothers
both home. Oh yeah, dude, I had so much fun
during COVID. And then I don't know why, but for
some reason, after like two months, I was like, you know,
Mom and Dad, I gotta get out of the house.
Speaker 4: I can't be here anymore.
Speaker 3: So I flew out to all places Rexburg, Idaho to
go back to be allu Idaho because that's where I
was enrolled at school just to get there and realized
it was a desert wasteland more than Rexburg already is. Yeah,
because even less people were there because of COVID. So
it was like me and my three roommates we couldn't
meet girls because there weren't any there. So like, we
would just sit in the apartment for literally like eight
hours a day and just watch friends until we fell
asleep and woke up on the couch the next.
Speaker 4: Wanted to do it all over again.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: I wish I would have stayed home because I didn't
know what I was like, I'm gonna go to school
and meet girls I haven't talked to a two years.
I'm gonna go to Idaho and meet girls there Obviously
weren't any.
Speaker 4: So yeah, so there was like eighty twenty men to female,
like or was it like that? I mean, it was
just zero to zero. There were no people. No one
was even at school.
Speaker 3: Nobody was at school. We had an eight man apartment.
There were only four of us there, so it was
nice because we all got our own room, but it
was it was unfortunate because there were no people there
and they were like there were like these underground, like
speakeasy COVID parties that people would have.
Speaker 4: Oh the cops were busting these things all the time. Man.
It was a crazy time to live in Rexburg. Oh.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I still whenever you talk about Rexburg and byu Idaho,
I think about Rick's College and how I miss having
a college football team in Rexburg.
Speaker 4: It was a part. And I know they have great
intramurals there now and they.
Speaker 3: Like except the kids who play innermurals think it's like
their super Bowl because they're playing tackle football at them,
Good for them, you know what I mean? Like, I
don't know, they walk around with too much energy, like
they're playing a Division one sport and they're not.
Speaker 4: Look everyone, you know, there's a little bit of Uncle
Rico and all of us. That's valid. There's a little
bit of Uncle Rico. And I was like, oh, well,
if I would.
Speaker 3: Have had that's every single kid, why would they got injured?
If I would have had a coach. They blame on
the coach. They blame it on their parents that bring
them on the injury. What other what other excuses are
out there for all the Uncle Rico's of why they
didn't get that call or they had. I had a
scholarship to X Y school, but I got injured on
my mission and they took it away. That's like one
of my favorites. I'm like, yeah, sure you did. Pow okay, yeah,
sure you did.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah. But like I you know, like we should
actually put that out.
Speaker 3: As a random question, like what Uncle Rico excuses have
you heard from people, especially in Profo Rexburg, all these
return missionaries, Like yeah, you know, I had a scholarship prior,
but then when I got back, I didn't have any more.
Speaker 4: So I just had to start working. And then I
got married and my dreams were dashed.
Speaker 3: But if I would have X Y and Z I
would have I would have been a starter. I would
be in this hot tub with my soulmate right now.
Just enumerate them anyway, I'll maybe get into that. My
question of today, though, is this cougarnation. I'll put it
out here shortly at Crudel Benjamin, what's been your favorite
Mark Harlan moment? Number one, they give me the break tweet,
the Pac twelve th tough, the Big twelve rumors. How
about they stole it from this post game BYU versus
Utah Holy War number three, purportedly pushing out Kyle Whitningham
for the head coach and winning those twenty twenty five
and then most recently attacking former former Utah signees and
commits on Twitter. What's your favorite moment from Mark Carlin
and why? Maybe is there a five? I don't know
if there's number five. Those are the four that I
thought of. So if there's a fifth, and let me know, ponder, search, pray, review,
and research.
Speaker 4: If you can hit me up at.
Speaker 3: Crittle Benjamin if we put that out, I'm gonna being
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Check out the rest of our ESPN the Fan starting lineup.
As I mentioned, we got a Star Center cast for
all you Cougar fans in Cougar Country.
Speaker 4: We'll welcome into the show. We'll do some like Cougar bikes,
et cetera.
Speaker 3: There was a really cool Deep Blue featuring director of
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We'll play that for you get to know him a
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Robbie McCombs featuring or representing Vanquish the Foe at four
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BAYU football, Bear Bachmeyer, and more. I also put out
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Tim Tebow's freshman year got limited playing time. I think
it'll had about thirty eight attempts his freshman year two
thousand and six, so his first full year as a starter.
I mean, he tore it up. It was ridiculous. So
take it with a grass of salt. But like we
have data points from Tim Tebow's sophomore year, and you
have bear Bachmeer's true freshman year, and you look at him,
you're like, you know what, there is a little bit
of a cop here from from an objective standpoint, the
form and fashion in which bear Bachmeer led BYU, how
he played, his efficiency and even his productivity. I would
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Has Mark Carland erased his Celestimoa tweet yet?
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I want the world to know.
I already have a screenshot of it, so.
Speaker 3: So everyone's got a screenshot of it. I think he
erased it. I'm are you kidding me? If you're gonna
tweet something out and if it's gonna be idiotic, at
least stand on business and keep it up.
Speaker 4: No, he erased it. It's gone, dude, it's gone.
Speaker 3: And I respect you even less because you tweeted something
dumb and you didn't even have the conviction enough to
keep it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So the tweet has been deleted.
Speaker 3: Some people are are labeling it a late night drunken
stupor tweet. I don't know if that's a It's one
put out an AI video of Mark Harlan doing a shot.
Speaker 4: And it was a you fan account. Actually, oh man.
Speaker 3: Utah fans have to be growing a little bit weary, uh,
regarding all the controversial like statements that Mark Carlin has
made over the last few years. Like really like we're
getting to a point where even Utah fans are becoming
a bit unhinged. They're starting to call out their athletic director.
So it begs the question. Look for those that don't know,
Mark Harlan quote tweeted a co A tweet I believe
was it from Blair and Gulo. If I'm not mistaken,
it was a recruiting tweet about Celestimoa reopening his recruitment
and he will make his announcement of all the edit
all American here shortly regarding his new commitment. Now, remember
Celestimo local product, the number one recruit in the state
of Utah. He is the son of Ben moa former
Utah great. He is the brother of ice Mo and Soonimo,
both former BYU Cougar football player. Cioni I think transferred
to Yukon, if I'm not mistaken, played linebacker, and Icemo
played at Michigan State this last season and produced.
Speaker 4: He's in the portal as well.
Speaker 3: I don't know if Cimo his brother is, but Celestie
ends up entering the portal, retracting his commitment, retracting his ly,
and now he's open for business.
Speaker 4: We'll see. I think he had to do not contact.
Speaker 3: Asterix as well or delineation on his request to enter
the portal. At any rate, Celestimo is going to commit elsewhere.
And Mark Carlin called him out in a somewhat begrudging,
maybe petty fashion. So that's top of mine. But there
are other ops about your favorite moment, especially as a BA.
Speaker 4: There are other options here.
Speaker 3: If you like Mark harland tweets, if you like my
Mark Harlan putting his foot in his mouth, how about
the give me a break tweet? When Dennis Dodd was
prognosticating that the Big Twelve and brett Ormark were ready
to pounce on the four Corner school obviously Utah being
one of those four Corner.
Speaker 4: Schools, and that the Pac twelve was about to.
Speaker 3: Fall into decay and ultimately self destruct and the Big
twelve was going to take advantage of it, he said,
give me a break, give me a.
Speaker 4: Break, give me a break, break me off a piece
of that kid cap bar.
Speaker 3: So obviously we know what happened the Pac twelve disintegrated
before our eyes. The Conference of Champions no longer really
truly exists, and the University of Utah ended up in
the Big Twelve. And then you get into the sequencing
of it BYU versus Utah Holy War, and Mark Harlan
rushed the okay, was penalized and then went to the
press conference and said, and I quote, this game was
stolen from us.
Speaker 4: They stole it from us. I was excited.
Speaker 3: I was, you know, ultimately proud of being in the
Big twelve, But today I am not. And Brett Or
Mark's gonna hear from me. Maybe it's number two, Maybe
that's your favorite moment for Mark Carlin. Number three. This
one's a little bit interesting because there's theories on it.
But purportedly pushing out Kyle Whittingham. Kyle Whittingham went to
the Trench report himself and is now at Michigan the
greatest coach in Utah football history, was purportedly pushed out
by Mark Harlan the ad of the University of Utah.
Speaker 4: Or number four.
Speaker 3: How about calling out former signees and commits on Twitter?
What's your favorite and why this.
Speaker 4: Is my favorite? And it's not even close.
Speaker 3: It's the fact that Mark Harlan rushed the field then
went ahead and said we were happy to be in
the Big Twelve, but now we're not.
Speaker 4: And then somehow did some kind of spin job to say, you.
Speaker 3: Know what, Brett or Mark, not only am I going
to criticize you publicly a year from now, the Big
twelve is going to need a representative for the college
Football Playoff Committee, and I should be the last guy
who gets this gig.
Speaker 4: I'm going to convince you to give it to me,
of all people. Here's the crazy part.
Speaker 3: There are people across America applying for jobs who cannot
get them. Mark Harland has a job. Mark Harland is
currently employed on salary with a full time job representing
the university as a public facing figure. There are people
out here who say, man, I busted my a. I've
done this, that and the other. My resume is killer,
and I cannot get a job in this economy. Mark
Carlin says, I can do whatever I want at my
job and I can't get fired. I can tweet whatever
I want, I can say whatever I want. I can
call out the commissioner of the conference that we're in
that I said, well, I never wanted to be in
in the first place.
Speaker 4: I can do whatever I want, and.
Speaker 3: Not only do I get to keep my job, I
get rewarded by being on the College Fall playoff committee.
Speaker 4: I know you want to step in here.
Speaker 5: Oh, I definitely do. Brett and I I've talked about this.
First of all, we need his his his grammar person.
And this is coming from a god, from somebody who
who has made grammar mistakes and still does.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 4: You got to use the edit button.
Speaker 5: Lee used edit button, get a new version, go back
and check or delete and repost as I've done.
Speaker 4: Look what was this tweet?
Speaker 5: Even I don't know, but the four You got to
use the parentheses. You gotta make him you have the yes, Yes,
I have a tooth. Okay, yeah, go ahead, Brett, No,
you go ahead, Brett, No, go ahead, He.
Speaker 3: Goes, well, Comma, he was in class with us for
a parentheses last no space week in space before the
first parentheses is.
Speaker 4: Not after the last one. Okay, it is what it is.
Speaker 3: And then he goes public announcement dot dot dot seen
it all now parentheses space probably not parentheses, so like
it doesn't even the way he wrote it bad, Like
there's no concent. I don't know really what the tweet
was even supposed to say. I don't know that he
was drunk or anything they wrote it, but that would
certainly explain a couple of things.
Speaker 5: So I understand why people say the drunk thing. And look,
I don't don't know if it's accurate been, but it's funny.
Speaker 1: I will laugh and say that.
Speaker 5: Look, man, at first I was thinking it was the
other ones, but no, it's it's this one. Because they
keep getting better, they do. They keep getting better. So
he gets in his fields like a little teenager, you know,
give me a break, you know, I just I could.
Speaker 4: That's what it is.
Speaker 5: And then then it's on the field as a grown man,
as a professional on the field, gets his team's a penalty,
then says, you know what, I'm gonna beat everybody to
the press conference, Ben you and they you're there, I'm
gonna go and say, you.
Speaker 4: Know, this game was stolen.
Speaker 1: I'm upset. You know.
Speaker 5: Then you're gonna act all like a crybaby, and then
you're gonna attack an eighteen year old kid.
Speaker 4: Nah, it just keeps getting better.
Speaker 5: This dude just keeps giving me cookies to the cookie
jar and I'm just like, Bro, you just you're it's bad,
Like you're embarrassing. He's an embarrassment to the to the
program of Utah, Like you're doing this and you really
need This is where you need to listen to your
pr people. You need to get get in with them
and stop like and I'm and I'm coming from saying
this of it's a bad look for I think the
University Utah, who is is a great university. My brother
in law graduated from there with his bachelors and his
master's in the last in the last year, and he
and his family, my sister's married to him. They are
all Utah graduates. They are frustrated with how the University
of Utah has handled stuff.
Speaker 4: This is not me speaking for them, this is what
they have told me.
Speaker 5: They're disappointed in how the idea has gone about handling
stuff internally with athletics and outside professional wise, and they're
upset of how things have gone. And this is another
example of this. I've already received text from them of
why does like And I just want to bring up
another perspective. I couldn't imagine ben if if Brian Santiago
or Tom Homo did this and I'm going to a
different perspective of what would be the repercussions or what
would happen if this were to be the case.
Speaker 4: And to me, it just eat none of them.
Speaker 5: I like them all honestly because they keep getting better.
But it's just sad that I feel like it takes
away the attention of Morgan Scala, who just became the
head coach. Is just it's putting pressure. And honestly, I mean,
who's the accused accountable in this. It's the school president.
So I mean Taylor Randall's the one that needs to
answer to this because Mark Carlin said and has done
some things over the years that quite frankly shouldn't have
been done. And I just feel like you're representing the
University of Utah in a bad way because they have
some good athletic programs, some good head coaches, whether they're
here at other schools, and it just to me, it's
it's becoming embarrassing the more I look at it, and
I think people aren't taking him seriously.
Speaker 4: The more he does this to himself.
Speaker 3: You got five options now, shout out to AP for
bringing up I know I was like conglomerating the number
two and number three together, but they need to be
separated out. We got give me a break and the
eventual destruction. Like I actually think that he played a
role in the eventual destruction of the Pac twelve. I
believe that like I think Key and even Taylor Randall
up on the U and their consultants, they played a
big role in overvaluating themselves, the Hubris being pompous in
nature and ultimately leading others astray in that process of
evaluating what they should do. Remember, they turned down they
had a Fox deal. Fox didn't want anything to do
with them going into this new deal in enters ESPN,
the other player, and they gave them a valuation of
something similar to what the Big twelve offered them, right
at thirty one thirty two million per year.
Speaker 4: At that time.
Speaker 3: They said, no, we're better than that, We're actually worth
fifty million. They resorted to the CW and all these
odd we're all the different television platforms that they were
negotiating with.
Speaker 4: At any rate, nobody wanted to touch them, and they
kept on. Apple. Apple came in right.
Speaker 3: They were talking about going all on all s streaming
on Apple's platform. This was I am convinced that Mark
Carlin played a role in that because who was the
most vocal advocate for not going to the Big twelve?
Mark Harlin and then the Asuad, those were the two
guys that were really digging their heels in at any rate.
To me, that the thing that I loved most was
to give me the break. And like the just him
being forced to the Big twelve, that was my favorite
one because that one was devastating for the I think
for the the an entire conference, like he deserves a
little bit, probably a lot of bit of that pie
of accountability. Number two they stole it from us, obviously,
that was hilarious from the pulpit. Number three walking onto
the field during a play getting penalized in a game
in which his team still had an opportunity to win
the game.
Speaker 4: That's insane.
Speaker 3: Number four proportedly pushing out Kyle Whittingham for the head
coach in waiting and then finally calling out former signees
and commits on Twitter, Celesie moa chime in on that
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we were in the househout out to Big Graham on
the data and we're going to get into our questions
and polls of the day here on your UTI ESPN
radio network. Already put out what's been your favorite Mark
Harlan moment? And why here on your UTI ESPN radio network.
Want to hear from you? Chime in on that at
crittle Benjamin on Twitter. Also, I put together another poll
earlier in the show. Did bear Bachmeyer meet the lofty player?
Comparison with the right handed t bow in his first
year as the BYU quarterback?
Speaker 4: A little bit check us out.
Speaker 3: Sixty four point nine percent completion percentage on three hundred
and eighty seven attempts.
Speaker 4: Not too shabby.
Speaker 3: Three thirty three passing yards, fifteen touchdowns to seven im
t A one thirty nine point nine passer rating, seven
point eight yards per attempt, five hundred and twenty seven
rushing yards, eleven rushing touchdowns. Now that's his true freshman
year sophomore Tim Tebow in his first full season as
a starter, attempt a three hundred fifty passes, did complete
sixty six point nine percent of those accumulated three thousand,
two hundred and eighty six passing yards, thirty two passing touchdowns.
Speaker 4: That's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Six im ts, nine point four yards per attempt, eight
hundred and ninety five rushing yards. I forgot that he
almost ran for a thousand, uh wow, and then twenty
three rushing touchdowns. Remember, Brady Quinn on Fox Sports said
he kind of reminds me of a right handed Tim
Tebow a little bit.
Speaker 4: Prior to noon kickoff, Big noon kickoff and prior to that.
Speaker 3: On August eighth, former BAU quarterback Steve Clements said this
about bear Bachmeyer after watching him in practice, he reminds
me of a better throwing Tim Tebow. So you have
multiple former quarterbacks that played at a high level. Steve
Clems was like an All American high school football player,
went to you to University of Texas, came to BYU,
and you know, due to a number of things, didn't
become the star that I thought he was meant to be.
In the treshportal, are he probably have bounced and probably
started elsewhere and taken a team like Dulane to big,
big heights, you know, just like Jake retz Loof did.
But at any rate, do you feel like the I mean,
this got a ton of hate from Utah fans. Look,
Utah fans, out of all the fan bases that I've
ever been around, they have they don't know ball. They
are dumber than a bag of bricks when it comes
to football. When they come to football breakdowns, Like I
have probably five or six different scenarios where I've tweeted
something about football players being having pro potential, possibly being
NFL draft picks, and they wrote a plethora of what
I would deem is just ignorant comments on my feed,
which ultimately they all came to fruition.
Speaker 4: They were all drafted, they were all developed.
Speaker 3: I mean, Zane Anderson still in the league, Jaron Hall
was drafted, Zach Wilson was drafted. Keyton Slovis is still
in the NFL. They just don't know football, but they
act as if they do. They're dumber than a back
of bricks. They were in our mentions the entire time.
I think it was a pretty it was a valid comparison.
He kind of reminds us of a right handed Tim Tebow.
What did you see Brett always bringing the hammer?
Speaker 4: This is coming from the university who I mean.
Speaker 3: Utah fans still hang their hat on Tyler Huntley like
A He's the greatest quarterback who ever lived, and B
they forget that while Tyler Huntley is great in the NFL.
Speaker 4: He is still a backup. And that's like the last
great Utah quarterback.
Speaker 1: To play in the NFL.
Speaker 4: Just to put in some context for Utah. But you know,
it's okay. Utah fans don't know ball. It is what
it is. They have the lowest ball.
Speaker 3: No, as far as the Tim Tebow comparison, I because
I didn't grow up a BYU guy.
Speaker 4: I try to drink as little of the kool.
Speaker 3: Aid as possible, and and anytime something like that goes out,
I like to be like, okay, I don't I don't know,
or we we have too many blue goggles. Would have
been as sacrilegious is like is how would you how
would you have found about? If I would have said
he reminds me of Cam Newton, kind of reminds me
of a b Yu version of Cam Newton. I mean,
even that's a little bit over the top. We won't
hurts you most because I know you're Oh you're Obama.
Speaker 4: Auburn guy. I know I hate I hate Auburn and
I hate Florida. I don't you know what. Now, that's
a great poll of the day for me. Who do
I hate more? Cam Newton or Tim Tebum. I will say, since.
Speaker 3: Playing football, I've really come around to like Tim Tebow.
He's a nice guy. Oh, Cam Newton, I still don't
know if I'm a fan of because he says some
wild things and wears some dumb hats.
Speaker 4: So when this this comparison first came out, I remember I.
Speaker 3: Was on the show when Steve Clements said this, and
I remember just sitting back a little bit, going, I
don't know that much about Steve Clemens, so maybe I'm
not big on this one. Steve Clements was absolutely right
and vindicated in the fact that a third party in
Brady Quinn.
Speaker 4: Who knows something about ball, also went on to say it.
Speaker 3: I think the hard part is the connotation when you
say the words Tim Tebow is greatest college football player
of all time potentially, and so it's hard to make
that comparison and separate the mechanic and the mechanical composition
in comparison to and separate that.
Speaker 4: From what Tim Tebow ended up being.
Speaker 3: But if you are able to do that and compartmentalize
and say, look, we're not talking about his career prospects,
his career accomplishments. We're talking about the way that he
plays ball. Yeah, one hundred percent, that was proven to
be true in terms of the way that he played.
You look at his statistical measurements, and again we're talking
about true fresh Schmann bear Bachmeyer compared to sophomore Tim Tebow,
who we would also argue that Florida team had I
love BYU. I'll love me some cougars. That Florida team
had a lot more talent than this BYU team did.
That was one of the greatest of all time. So
it's honestly pretty unreal when you do that stat by
stat comparison. And this is also again we have to
remind people, this is bear Bachmeyer who had what like
three weeks to get ready for the season with BYU
before the season started, and at Tim Tebow, who had
a year and a half to get ready for the
season started. So, yeah, that comparison between Tim Tebow and
Bear Bachmeyer and the way they both play ball, and
I think, honestly like the way those two dudes are
both willing to just lay their body on the line.
Like there's some things bear Bachmeyer did that I'm like, hey,
you probably didn't need to do that, Like you didn't
need to lay that guy out like that. You probably
should have learned how to slide, but he did because
all he cares about is playing ball in the here
and now. So that comparison, that to me, like if
that was a stock, that was a stock that was
worth maybe one cent at the beginning of the season
that nobody would have touched. And uh, in a season
it turned into that GameStop AMC type stuff. So incredible
take from Steve Clements. And then Brady Quinn wanted to
hop on board. Yeah, just hopping on the bandwagon, the
Tim Tebow bandwagon.
Speaker 4: What do you got from we Runald the three man Weaver. Yeah,
Brady Quinn, you're funny with that.
Speaker 1: Here's the funny part about it, Ben.
Speaker 5: He said that to us because I was there at
Big noon kickoff when we were at the media availability
that's what he said when we were asking him questions
before that byu Utah game. So for the fact that
he had said it, that was like, h I've already
heard that, but you know, but I was like, I
know that because you're a national guy. You know, I
know what it's gonna do. I'm not stupid an the show.
Maybe just show a fan of the show. Look, uh,
I think that's accurate.
Speaker 6: Ben.
Speaker 5: I even think you can even make an argument that
Bear might even be tougher than Tim. But like, there's
there's a there's one of the toughest. Like, yeah, I'm
gonna start some Yeah, I'm poking the bear. You know,
no pun intended there, it got any crazy here we go. No,
there's one of the toughest college football not only quarterbacks,
but players that I've seen in my time of covering
and watching the game. Like to have your ankle go
out like that, Ben, And you know, Ben, you played
that violent sport. You the only one that can attest
to it in that manner who's been taped, you know whatever.
Other the medical people, physicians tried to get to take
that step and for it just to cave like that,
Like all right, it's not gonna work in to sit
back and then to throw the amount of yards that
he did, and then when they needed the two point conversion,
it says, you know what, this ankle just might get
broken to day and then to put down and drag
steal three people in. That's tough with a capitol, you know,
t So Look, I think he is a better throwing
right handed Tim Tebow.
Speaker 1: No doubt.
Speaker 5: And the best part I love Ben is He's going
to get better. I cannot wait to see this offseason.
I'm excited for springball Ben from what we get to observe,
and then I'm excited for fal camp.
Speaker 4: But I'm a hoops guy.
Speaker 5: You know there's been because I want to see this
kid's improvement. They still need to RB two to help
out the running back room, but he is going to
be phenomenal next season. I can't wait to see him. Look,
he threw for three thousand yards. Can you make the
argument I don't want.
Speaker 1: To be too much.
Speaker 5: I don't want to get to hyperper because it Ben's like, hey,
that might be too aperabolic. Can he throw for thirty
five hundred four thousand next year? Can he be a
four thousand yard quarterback? Through the year, over forty five
one hundred yards of total offense. And when you start
putting up those type of numbers, been thirty total touchdowns.
I know Jay Gretz said he want to be in
New York, but those type of numbers actually puts a
quarterback in the competition to be in New York.
Speaker 3: We have a special guest that just got into the studio.
Let's welcome in the late the one the only Brandon
Securty of the Daily Herald.
Speaker 4: G Man, how are you, buddy, I'm doing well.
Speaker 1: I was real to see this Mark. I know he
loves that. That's why I did that. I'm leaving.
Speaker 4: I won't leave this studio.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm just playing. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I apologize.
Speaker 1: I know you're playing and everyone plays that.
Speaker 4: I hate it.
Speaker 1: Sorry garbage. Anyway, I was thrilled to see Mark Harland tweet.
I'd encourage more tweeting from him. And what gets me
about Mark Harland is I just think there's still an
arrogance up there that it's just they haven't accepted.
Speaker 4: Their station to this very petulant arrogance.
Speaker 1: I think it exudes from that program and Mark Harlan's
under a ton of pressure. Right now, you don't get
rid and let's be honest, he got rid of Kyle Whittingham,
a guy who defined the program. Unless you're under a
lot of pressure. He has put a mammoth sized amount
of pressure on himself for the way he's done things.
He needs guys like Celessie Moas. So when he leaves
the program it hurts him particularly. But here's the key
point in all of it. He knows that he doesn't
have the wherewithal the program, doesn't have the wherewith all
the funds, the capability to keep a kid like that
in house. And a lot of it's his fault because
he let go of the coach that Celestie's probably gonna
go play for now. Yeah, and so it's personal for him.
But I think the larger story about the University of Utah,
I'll think about any school, any program in the entire country.
Is there a program in the history of college football
that embraced its station more than the University of Utah
did with the PEC twelve.
Speaker 4: I'd say the SEC is pretty inebriated with their brand.
Speaker 1: They are.
Speaker 4: That's it just means more whatever it is like.
Speaker 1: But a lot of those programs they were big, and
by virtue of them being what they are, they became
the sec right. University of Utah was a very solid
minor program prior to the Big twelve I PAC twelve
and when the embrace of the PAC twelve was something
I'd never seen. It defined what Utah was. They loved
it so much. And the fact that it was found
out to be a pretense something that was really overrated
and not sustainable. I don't think the powers that be
have let go of that yet, to which I think
they still have it in their minds that they're better
than their current station. I think that still exists, and
I think it becomes apparent when you see the whining,
because let's be honest, you don't tweet what you do
if you're winning, if you're confident in the product and
what you have to offer. No, yeah you are. You
whine about the circumstance. And and sure, I mean that
the straight text of his message wasn't necessarily whining. It
It was just but considering who he is and what
he represents and how an athletic director should conduct himself, Yeah,
it was whining.
Speaker 4: So I don't.
Speaker 1: Understand what he thinks is going to be accomplished by
doing things like that. I don't think he does think
about it, to which he deleted the tweet, which I
think is might be the single good move I've seen
Mark Carlin do since he's become athletic.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think it kind of almost works.
Just own it if that's who you are, Just own it.
Just own it to you know what I mean, Like
because he's kept most of the previous ones.
Speaker 1: Right, Oh, they're still up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they give me a break, you know. I don't
think he's going out like erasing trying to like report
anyone on the video of they stole it from us today.
I'm not proud to be a part of the Big twelve.
I didn't take down the.
Speaker 1: Pig bus tweet.
Speaker 4: We did, we got Oh that's right. Then we can't
find that one. I can't find it. Do you know
what I'm talking about? With the pig buster that should
have been number six?
Speaker 1: I must have I must have missed.
Speaker 3: I gave you five options. What's your favorite Mark Carlan moment?
And why g men? Is it to give me the break?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: And his role of the event with the adventual disintegration
of the PAC twelve, they stole it from us in
the post game speech. How about walking onto the field
during a play getting penalized in a game in which
his team still had an opportunity to win the game,
purportedly pushing out Kyle Whittingham for the head coach in
waiting number five, calling out a former side he commit
on Twitter, So lessimoa, what do you got?
Speaker 1: Well, the most significant one, by far is the Kyle Whittingham.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a big one.
Speaker 1: I mean, my goodness, Kyle Whittingham and BWAE fans don't
like Kyle Whittingham. He was a fantastic football coach. Now,
I think even the most jaded you hater could admit
as much. Yep, that guy is University of Utah football.
He should have been afforded the opportunity to do whatever
he wanted with that program. He had reached that stature.
He's at the stature where the football stadium should be
named after him. I really believe that, at least the
field Kyle Whittingham field. And you get rid of that guy.
You say, no Ah, you don't get to do whatever
you want. No, he gets to do whatever he wants
because guess what what he wants brings success to the
University of Utah, and it has since two thousand and five.
He's been extraordinary. You does nothing without Kyle Whittingham, and
I think Utah might find out sooner you look at
the roster you does bring him to twenty twenty six,
and the coaching staff fans might be a little shocked
at the product they see unfold come twenty twenty six.
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You're you're feeling like, you know, even I've looked at
their roster, Cridal, you don't think that.
Speaker 4: But culture could win out right BA roster. You know
they do.
Speaker 1: They have a coach that can establish the phenomenal culture
that Kyle Whittingham.
Speaker 4: Steve Clements thinks, so you know he just had a conversation.
Speaker 1: With But it's a very much I mean, Morgan Scally's
a very good coach. We know this, But it's a
whole different ballgame when you're a head coach.
Speaker 4: We know this.
Speaker 1: Everyone struggles with it. No one fits seamlessly into the
head coaching position. If someone has maybe Kurt Signetti right,
other than that, it's very rare. There's going to be things.
Speaker 4: But but what you have.
Speaker 1: Is he gonna have coordinators that are as good as
Morgan Scalley. That's the difference.
Speaker 4: To give it as his oc who did good things.
That UF State's got a pretty good.
Speaker 1: Residents, I'd say he's fine, He's fine. Yeah, But anyway,
I think Utah's on the precipice of a real breaking point,
which I is redundant to say another thing about it anyway,
but bet and I think Mark Carlin has beenling a
ton of pressure, and he should because the move he made,
my goodness, I think it's gonna bite the program big time.
Kyle Winningham is not a guy that you dictate conditions to.
No what he did for the program, he should have
dictated whatever condition he felt because he was University of
Utah football. And it's still a shock to me that
he's a University of Michigan. It blows my mind that
the University of Utah, with everything it believes it is,
allowed that to happen. And if Morgan Scaley's arousing success,
I'll eat my words. I'll I'll get Mark Mark Carlo's
a genius all that, But until I see that, it's
it's really really hard to understand why he made the
moves that he did.
Speaker 3: You know what's crazy is as you were, you know,
pontificating on this, I thought about the what could have
been even with BYU in this last process, had Brian
Santiago and and b Yu let Kalani Walkah and taken
staff members with him to Penn State, how many players
would have gone, how many coaches would have gone? Obviously
Jay Hill would have taken over as the you know,
head coach in waiting. And and what if you know,
Mark har Carlynne had said, you know, yeah, we're gonna
do what you want. Kyle Whittingham, you can be extending
you stop gassing the tank. The roles could have been
completely reversed here like now. I think Jay Hill at
the Helm would have been fine. I think it would
have been good at b YU, I think, but it
could have been devastating, you know what I mean. It
could have been pretty devastating to rebuild restructure. Remember, Kilane
would have had the same type of resources allocated him
with nil coaching staffs. He acquisitions could have brought in
just about anybody to those jobs. Anyway, I just kind
of thought about that. You picked your favorite moment from
Harlan or maybe the most the most, not necessarily favorite,
but like the most as.
Speaker 1: A media guy, the most memorable, as they stole it
from us in the press conference. Yeah, taking to the microphone,
asserting himself and making a statement like that is so extraordinary.
I can't even think of anything I've seen that even
touches that. So anyway, he is what he is.
Speaker 3: And what's the most embarrassing moment from Mark I think
the stole of Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: That should have been embarrassing.
Speaker 3: It should have been not running onto the field c
I think running onto the field of play like that
is freaking Like, I know, speaking like you're still acting,
it's an action.
Speaker 4: These are physical actions.
Speaker 3: He verbalized it, like obviously it's a rarity to see
an eighty go on go in front of the mic
in a post game scenario, like I don't know when
or how it's.
Speaker 1: At a raking I never that happening.
Speaker 3: But like, you run onto the field of play, get
penalized when your team is playing and still has an opportunity.
It's the final play of the game and they could win,
Like what if they housed it?
Speaker 4: What if that? And you know, it's even more embarrassing
than that remember that five time a riot that happened.
Speaker 3: We may have to create a list of like, uh,
of of embarrassing things the Utah fan base has also done.
Remember when they stormed the field like five consecutive times
and gave by you like like four field goal attempts?
Speaker 1: I think twelve? Oh god, I remember that.
Speaker 4: I just didn't say anyway.
Speaker 3: I hate to divert there, but it's uh, there have
been plenty of embarrassing things like the are these like
fireable offenses or are these just like uh, you.
Speaker 4: Would think so, but apparently not, don't you think Taylor
Randall just texted him, is like, hey, could you take
down that tweet?
Speaker 3: See it's interesting to me that we're finally seeing it
taken down. That That's what makes me wonder if something
is different now is because we haven't typically.
Speaker 4: Seen take tweet.
Speaker 1: Wasn't his decision right?
Speaker 3: I wonder if him taking the tweet down is a
sign of, hey, he is really finally feeling that he
and there may be some real consequences presented that, like, hey, Mark,
this is the last straw you do this again, We're done.
Speaker 1: I've got to believe that his leash is very short.
Now very short, it has to be yeah, to make
the moves that he did, and he made these moves.
It was Mark Carlin. He is the athletic director. My goodness.
I mean, if it works out, huge props. If it doesn't, yeah,
you should, you should get out of Utah there.
Speaker 5: Then you just don't see that like to like to
think about the tweet like that's his personal account. No
one's running that for you, and by good all gravy,
if someone is, please stop them and fire them immediately.
Speaker 4: Maybe he thought it was his burner.
Speaker 1: Here's what I know.
Speaker 3: Maybe he accidentally tweeted from his real account, but he
thought it was his burner account.
Speaker 4: And the next question is which.
Speaker 1: One is his burner.
Speaker 5: He's got burners in the media bit and I'm gonaid,
I'm not gonna start the conversation.
Speaker 1: Here's what I don't understand. I'm a schlob guy that
that that's nothing right.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you know how many times I've made a tweet
and thinking, no, I probably shouldn't say that. Yeah, I
do that often. Yes, sometimes I delete tweets that I
tweet out just like, no, I shouldn't do that.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Exception about common sense is that it's not all
that common.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I don't have near the authority specter whatever
is Mark Carlin. So it just blows my mind when
you see tweets like that and they stay up. It
doesn't make sense to me. I that's that's something that's
hard for me to correlate as some schlub reporter that
deletes tweets all the time.
Speaker 5: I'm just surprised that athletic director or a grown man
is like commenting his pain about an eighteen like that,
that's just that, like that, that's not your job, Like
that's coaching staff, Like stay out of that.
Speaker 1: I don't understand the purpose of doing that. Like wait,
that's what I'm saying. I don't get it.
Speaker 3: What about the private equity that's now in Like how
does are they how does this factor into that? Because
I know that UTAH is supposed to keep control, But
I wonder if they also see that and they're like,
this is definitely tanking our value. I'm curious how they
are viewing this or if they're paying attention.
Speaker 1: How much are we paying Mark Carlin?
Speaker 4: What is it too much?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, yeah, okay, oh wow, interesting times up on
the hill.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that what is Mark Carlin said at
one million, over one million dollars annually is his contract?
Speaker 4: Man, Can you imagine getting paid that much to just
do whatever you want?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 5: If I could get that paid much to just say
and go out and do whatever I want, many.
Speaker 4: Really good at all the other things he has to
do at his job.
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty three, his contract was extended through twenty
twenty eight. He became the athletic director for the University
of Utah in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 4: Since then, Harlan has guided the program.
Speaker 3: To unprecedented success, so that that does lead into a
precedent of success.
Speaker 4: That's that's what's words. It's a word.
Speaker 3: That's that's from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty three. Right,
would you say that football was was that its peak?
Speaker 1: Did you follow the two thousand and four University of
Utah team? I know, but two thousand and eight.
Speaker 4: This is the Rose Bulls consecutive right, Yeah?
Speaker 1: They went on and lost the Rose Bowl. Yeah, yeah,
that's right.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean he got he's got beating.
Speaker 1: Alabama the Sugar Bowl in two thousand and eight. Sorry,
I don't agree with that.
Speaker 4: This is from a Deseret news article from Jay Drew
when he was covering the U Right.
Speaker 1: We're it's not important whatever. I don't I don't care.
I don't care.
Speaker 5: So questionly, is what two years left on the contract
going into twenty twenty six twenty seven season?
Speaker 1: Will he get an extension? Because you're close?
Speaker 5: No way, you're you're close, like being like with these
contracts like in through twenty twenty eight, you would have
to think that this at the end of the season.
Maybe what they're doing is they're waiting until the end
of the season and then maybe you let him go
and then the buy out. I don't know what his
body is, probably you know, one million or maybe two.
You wait, because we're coming up on that. You said
through twenty twenty eight. It's twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: I just thought about that. Does Mark Carlin have a
doctor degree? I have no idea.
Speaker 4: I guess yes, they do.
Speaker 1: Only call the University of Uta Athletic directors doctor.
Speaker 4: Doctor Chris Hill. Do you miss? Just do Utah fans
miss doctor Chris Chris Hill? Right now?
Speaker 1: I'd imagine.
Speaker 4: So, what what's your favorite moment, guys, go ahead.
Speaker 1: Favorite moment of no?
Speaker 4: No, What were you saying? Where were you what did
I cut you off? No?
Speaker 1: No, I go on.
Speaker 3: I was saying, I thought you're gonna who's most embarrassed
by Mark Carlin's recent actions Utah fans, Utah administration, Brett,
your Mark or other?
Speaker 5: Should be the administration, Ben, But from everything I've heard
of interacting, Granted I'm not up on the hill, I'm
not in the administration.
Speaker 1: The fans.
Speaker 5: I just I've heard so much from the fan, Like
I go back to the by U Utah basketball game,
I heard lots of comments about Mark Carlin and was
not pleasant.
Speaker 4: And upset that online or finally like conceding, Well.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, Like I think the fan base
is like, yeah, it's over, Like I'm serious, Like my
brother in law is like Harlan's worst than it would
Scout is just like it's it's Harlan. It's hard, like
I don't respect like that is what's coming out that
I'm seeing now is that people have an issue with
the AD, not the head coach, not the new one,
the AD. And it's just again, it's the fans that
I think are the most embarrassed right now. But it
should be the Utah administration.
Speaker 4: Uh, Alex Markham.
Speaker 3: We've had him on the show before. I think he's
represented two four seven rivals. He's a part of ut
nation dot com. He says, maybe this is an unpopular opinion,
but the days of walking on eggshells for eighteen year
old Division one athletes is a thing of the past,
ever since they started getting paid six to seven figures.
Speaker 4: Tell me I'm wrong, So.
Speaker 3: It's okay for an ad Okay, Yeah, go ahead, Yeah, yeah,
there you go.
Speaker 1: That's that's a good way to deal with it. Why
is Klaue Satake killing the transfer portal? Think about that?
Speaker 4: I love this man.
Speaker 1: I love say they think about why white people come
back to Klonie Satake. Do you think it's just a
coincidence Klannie comports him. Do you think Klonie Sataki would
ever make it rip on an eighteen year old kid? Ever?
Speaker 3: No, Oh, the fact that you fans are trying to
argue that this should be just commonplace though, like that
checks out.
Speaker 1: I need I need to and I know Alex I've
had many many conversations with Alex. I need to start
arguing with them on Twitter because that's not a good
comment by Alex Mark.
Speaker 4: It doesn't doesn't shock you though, because it doesn't shock me.
Speaker 1: That's not that's not a good comment. I'm gonna call
him out. That's what I'm gonna do. It's it's see.
But if I do that, then I'll just get hordes
of fans just on me. No, I'm not gonna do
I'm not gonna go I just I just look at
it like this.
Speaker 5: Let's take it a step further to on the field play, right, See,
Alex will own it and he's good to talk to.
Speaker 1: But well, yeah, but you're gonna have to deal with
the repercussions of other people. But then I go back
to this.
Speaker 5: Remember when Zach Wilson, you know, and throws the pick
in the game, you know, and what does what does
Jeff Grimes do? Comes over, puts THEE armor and they
have a conversation about it. Very moment that when viral
people looked at it was talked about, caught me off guard.
That's why BYU is thriving even and you know that
was under Kalonnie. That that's what the culture is. That's
going back further man, you know, and that's why BYU
is what it is. And I think where Utah is
probably downslid because you got rid of Kyle Whittingham, who
I thought brought a great culture. And now you're at
this point because you want to call eighteen year olds
out like you your ad so upset and so so mad,
and now you have a guy saying well because they
make the amount of money, like, that's not how it goes,
like I've.
Speaker 4: Never seen the like.
Speaker 5: Imagine if you know, you just if a parent just
ripped their kid during an athletic event, rather than pulling
them aside, you know and talking the right way, we'd
be like, Okay, everyone's gonna side eye that person. And
I think it's the same thing that's going on right
now in Utah. So I just bring up that moment
because that just showed a lot in that moment on
the field, and I think that just embodies of what
BYU is and why they're winning and why Utah isn't.
Speaker 1: It's because it's the exact opposite.
Speaker 5: You're in your fields that a good player because jo
under pressure, like Gurney says, leaves and rather than if
you'd a quote tweet it, you know, even if he
bretnd and I talked about this morning, said if you.
Speaker 4: Would have just even says pain.
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, man, is like, can we stop losing
to Michigan or whatever you feel? If you'd have gone
that way and it had been funny, I'd have laughed
at it, been like, you know what, I can't even blame.
I might be upset too if I was in his position,
But he makes it personal rather than you know, just
in that.
Speaker 4: Made the tweet again. Now, my problem with the tweet
is that grammatically it doesn't even make sense.
Speaker 1: That's all bad.
Speaker 4: He had to have been just woken up or have
been intoxicated when he wrote this. I can't understand again
all that stuff.
Speaker 1: What time was the tweet made?
Speaker 4: So I let's see if I have a screenshot of.
Speaker 1: It, let me see on so that that's gonna lead
us to understand whether he was drinking Dan. I think
it goes away.
Speaker 4: After well, comma he was.
Speaker 3: He was with us in class for a parentheses last week,
public announcement.
Speaker 4: Seen it all now probably not? And then the grammar
and the parentheses are all over.
Speaker 1: You don't need to be grammatically correct on Twitter.
Speaker 4: But like it doesn't it doesn't coo grammatically correct you're
gonna come from? Does it make.
Speaker 3: It doesn't like to capitalize anything. But it doesn't make sense. Man,
that's the problem. It's not coherent. Can you tell me
what that You're right, it's not a good So you're
an athletic director, you have a master's degree.
Speaker 4: You can use grammar, all right.
Speaker 1: I tried to. That was my one time trying to
defend Mark Harlan, and I failed spectacular Yeah, thank you
Brett Hammer for bringing the hammer down on me.
Speaker 4: He always brings the down on everybody. Why do you
gotta be why I'm trying to hammer time?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 4: Why do you get to be so mean? Bro?
Speaker 1: I was trying to be diplomatic, so I got to
be so Mark Harlan didn't work so critical.
Speaker 4: I don't say so, Mark Harland, that is that is
not what's happening.
Speaker 1: Oh no, Break, you don't messing. That is not what's happening.
Speaker 4: One of us has to be honest, all right, guys.
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