WEBVTT

1
00:00:01.120 --> 00:00:04.480
<v Speaker 1>It's night's time with Dan Ray I dell you fleazy

2
00:00:04.879 --> 00:00:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Boston Radio.

3
00:00:07.160 --> 00:00:10.119
<v Speaker 2>All right, welcome out back everyone. As we move into

4
00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:14.519
<v Speaker 2>the ten o'clock hour, I'd like to spend one hour

5
00:00:15.199 --> 00:00:20.000
<v Speaker 2>talking about your remembrance, your recollection of Louis Tiant. I

6
00:00:20.079 --> 00:00:22.320
<v Speaker 2>don't care if you watch the game on TV, if

7
00:00:22.359 --> 00:00:24.839
<v Speaker 2>you watch it in person, if you met him. It's

8
00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:29.079
<v Speaker 2>a real gentleman, and we lost him yesterday, and I

9
00:00:29.120 --> 00:00:33.000
<v Speaker 2>would love to have you join the conversation. But before

10
00:00:33.039 --> 00:00:34.799
<v Speaker 2>we do that, we'll open up the lines right now

11
00:00:34.840 --> 00:00:37.960
<v Speaker 2>at six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty. But

12
00:00:39.079 --> 00:00:44.119
<v Speaker 2>we have some tickets. These are special tickets. There's a

13
00:00:44.119 --> 00:00:50.640
<v Speaker 2>great show coming to the Hanover Theater in Worcester, So

14
00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:53.159
<v Speaker 2>I'd like to take the tenth caller since it's the

15
00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:56.399
<v Speaker 2>ten o'clock hour. At six one, seven, nine, three, one,

16
00:00:56.560 --> 00:01:00.960
<v Speaker 2>ten thirty, the tenth caller, Robin Dan will win two

17
00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:04.719
<v Speaker 2>tickets to see Tina the Tina Turner Musical at the

18
00:01:04.760 --> 00:01:09.959
<v Speaker 2>Hanover Theater in Worcester on Friday night, October eighteenth, at

19
00:01:10.000 --> 00:01:13.040
<v Speaker 2>eight pm. That is a week from this Friday night.

20
00:01:13.120 --> 00:01:17.000
<v Speaker 2>It's an uplifting comeback story like no other. Tina the

21
00:01:17.079 --> 00:01:20.079
<v Speaker 2>Tina Turner Musical is the inspiring journey of a woman

22
00:01:20.120 --> 00:01:23.319
<v Speaker 2>who broke barriers and became the Queen of rock and roll,

23
00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:27.799
<v Speaker 2>set to the pulse pounding soundtrack of her most beloved hits.

24
00:01:28.159 --> 00:01:31.640
<v Speaker 2>This electrifying sensation will send you soaring to the rafters.

25
00:01:31.640 --> 00:01:34.359
<v Speaker 2>So again, this is on October eighteenth at eight o'clock.

26
00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:38.400
<v Speaker 2>All you have to do is become caller number ten

27
00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:42.480
<v Speaker 2>at six one, seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. Rob

28
00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:44.439
<v Speaker 2>will let me know when we have a winner. You

29
00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:46.799
<v Speaker 2>can stop calling. Rob is just going to tell you

30
00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:48.840
<v Speaker 2>call her one, you call her two, you call her

31
00:01:48.840 --> 00:01:53.599
<v Speaker 2>three or whatever, and just move on. And if if

32
00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:57.840
<v Speaker 2>in the you can call, you can call twice. At

33
00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:00.400
<v Speaker 2>the point I'm trying to make okay, you always can.

34
00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:03.480
<v Speaker 2>If you call on number seven, keep calling. You just

35
00:02:03.519 --> 00:02:06.760
<v Speaker 2>got to hit lucky caller number ten. That's the secret. Uh.

36
00:02:06.799 --> 00:02:10.520
<v Speaker 2>And someone from WZ will contact you tomorrow and get

37
00:02:10.560 --> 00:02:13.280
<v Speaker 2>these tickets to years in plenty of time to enjoy

38
00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:17.879
<v Speaker 2>the show next Friday night, October eighteenth at eight o'clock.

39
00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:20.960
<v Speaker 2>And Rob, once you get caller number ten, you let

40
00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:24.280
<v Speaker 2>me know and we will we will let everyone know that.

41
00:02:24.439 --> 00:02:26.520
<v Speaker 2>And again, if you're calling, if you're calling the regular

42
00:02:26.599 --> 00:02:29.080
<v Speaker 2>number of folks the call The number to call is

43
00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:33.719
<v Speaker 2>six one seven, nine three, one ten thirty six one seven, nine,

44
00:02:33.800 --> 00:02:36.319
<v Speaker 2>three one ten thirty. That is the contest line. The

45
00:02:36.360 --> 00:02:38.919
<v Speaker 2>other lines are not going to get you these tickets.

46
00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:41.360
<v Speaker 2>You've got to waste your time calling the other lines.

47
00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:47.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh this is fun to watch. Actually, I'd like you

48
00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:50.000
<v Speaker 2>guys to write these two numbers down and understand that

49
00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:54.080
<v Speaker 2>the that that on the show, they both work six

50
00:02:54.159 --> 00:02:57.400
<v Speaker 2>one seven nine three one ten thirty is the one

51
00:02:57.479 --> 00:03:00.719
<v Speaker 2>that works for the caller line. So when you when

52
00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:02.680
<v Speaker 2>you get a winner, rob let me know and we

53
00:03:02.719 --> 00:03:06.159
<v Speaker 2>will we will get to the to the to the

54
00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:10.599
<v Speaker 2>the issue of the hour. So yesterday, earlier tonight, we

55
00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:16.000
<v Speaker 2>spoke with a good friend of the Tion family, Alberto Vassalo,

56
00:03:16.360 --> 00:03:20.719
<v Speaker 2>president CEO of El Mundo Boston, about Louis Tiant and

57
00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:26.719
<v Speaker 2>Louis Tiant I don't think that Boston. You know, Pedro Martinez,

58
00:03:27.400 --> 00:03:30.280
<v Speaker 2>for those of you who were a little younger, was

59
00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:33.960
<v Speaker 2>a great picture for the Red Sox in the early

60
00:03:34.120 --> 00:03:37.759
<v Speaker 2>part of this century, in the two thousand oughts, as

61
00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:41.719
<v Speaker 2>they say, uh, and it well obviously in the late

62
00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:43.439
<v Speaker 2>nineteen nineties as well.

63
00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:44.199
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

64
00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:50.159
<v Speaker 2>And and Pedro an incredible pitcher. Louis was an incredible pitcher,

65
00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:54.639
<v Speaker 2>but for those of you who remember him, he was

66
00:03:54.759 --> 00:03:58.919
<v Speaker 2>at his best in a big game. He was born

67
00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:03.879
<v Speaker 2>in to poverty in Cuba, was able to escape Cuba

68
00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:11.319
<v Speaker 2>after the revolution. He was born in nineteen forty, so

69
00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:16.199
<v Speaker 2>by time he was I guess in his late teens,

70
00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:21.720
<v Speaker 2>he had escaped and he was playing baseball in Mexico. See,

71
00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:24.439
<v Speaker 2>we have a winner. So if you're dialing any more, folks,

72
00:04:24.439 --> 00:04:27.240
<v Speaker 2>the winner has been this pair of tickets. Will give

73
00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:31.040
<v Speaker 2>away another pair next hour, I promise. So just the

74
00:04:32.199 --> 00:04:34.680
<v Speaker 2>lines of full clear, those lines robbed, so everybody knows

75
00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:37.720
<v Speaker 2>we have a winner this hour for the Tina Turner tickets,

76
00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:40.319
<v Speaker 2>and we will have two more another set of these

77
00:04:40.319 --> 00:04:46.480
<v Speaker 2>tickets available next hour. So Louis Tiant. They don't make

78
00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:50.800
<v Speaker 2>pitches like Louis ti Hunt anymore. I mean the stories

79
00:04:50.879 --> 00:04:56.120
<v Speaker 2>about Louis Tiant, the number of pitches that he threw

80
00:04:56.160 --> 00:04:58.040
<v Speaker 2>in a game. I think those of you who are

81
00:04:58.040 --> 00:05:01.319
<v Speaker 2>real baseball fans at this point know that most pitchers

82
00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:04.800
<v Speaker 2>are very limited on their pitch count, and the managers

83
00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:09.199
<v Speaker 2>get nervous if particularly young pitchers, if they're throwing in

84
00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:13.120
<v Speaker 2>the in the eighties or nineties, ninety pitchers during a

85
00:05:13.120 --> 00:05:16.680
<v Speaker 2>game and they want to take him out. Now, pitchers

86
00:05:16.680 --> 00:05:21.959
<v Speaker 2>today might be throwing a little harder. I think that

87
00:05:22.079 --> 00:05:26.319
<v Speaker 2>might be true consistently. There aren't too many Greg Maddox

88
00:05:26.439 --> 00:05:30.800
<v Speaker 2>pitchers in Major League Baseball anymore. Not that Louis Tiant

89
00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:33.199
<v Speaker 2>was a Greg Maddox pitcher. He could throw as hard

90
00:05:33.240 --> 00:05:37.720
<v Speaker 2>as anyone at his you know, when he was pitching,

91
00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:40.959
<v Speaker 2>but he was a pitcher. He wasn't a thrower, and

92
00:05:41.519 --> 00:05:44.959
<v Speaker 2>he was I mean, it was magical to watch him

93
00:05:45.439 --> 00:05:47.759
<v Speaker 2>perform at Fenway Park, and I'm sure many of you

94
00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:51.279
<v Speaker 2>remember those games. But when you look at his the

95
00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:55.519
<v Speaker 2>entirety of his record, he pitched for nineteen seasons, and

96
00:05:55.560 --> 00:06:00.600
<v Speaker 2>then of course after his career, after his career really

97
00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:04.240
<v Speaker 2>became his home. I have a friend, Joe Fitzgerald, who

98
00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:09.399
<v Speaker 2>was a writer for the Boston Harold and a sports

99
00:06:09.439 --> 00:06:13.319
<v Speaker 2>writer and a really good sportswriter, and he befriended Louis,

100
00:06:14.279 --> 00:06:18.279
<v Speaker 2>and he wrote a biography of Louis, and he would

101
00:06:18.319 --> 00:06:21.279
<v Speaker 2>tell stories about Louis and Joe and Louis I think

102
00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:25.120
<v Speaker 2>both enjoyed cigar smoking, and maybe that's what they bonded over.

103
00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:29.519
<v Speaker 2>But Louis spent several years with the then Cleveland Indians

104
00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:35.000
<v Speaker 2>now the Cleveland Guardians. He then went to Minnesota for

105
00:06:35.079 --> 00:06:39.319
<v Speaker 2>one year, did okay, a pretty good year. Didn't pitch

106
00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:42.839
<v Speaker 2>as much that year, he must have been hurt. And

107
00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:46.160
<v Speaker 2>then he came back with the Red Sox in seventy

108
00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:49.720
<v Speaker 2>one and it was only one in seven and a

109
00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:55.240
<v Speaker 2>picture of less confidence might have said at that point, hey,

110
00:06:55.800 --> 00:06:58.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm thirty one years old. Maybe I've hit my peek,

111
00:06:58.959 --> 00:07:03.040
<v Speaker 2>and maybe it's time for me to move on. But

112
00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:05.639
<v Speaker 2>he didn't. He came to the Red He stuck with

113
00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:08.360
<v Speaker 2>the Red Sox, and the next year he won fifteen games,

114
00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:10.959
<v Speaker 2>and the next year twenty, and the next year twenty two,

115
00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:14.360
<v Speaker 2>and then he won eighteen in nineteen seventy five, as

116
00:07:14.360 --> 00:07:17.000
<v Speaker 2>well as some games in the playoffs in the World Series.

117
00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:20.079
<v Speaker 2>And then in seventy six he won twenty one games,

118
00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:22.120
<v Speaker 2>and then it fell off a little bit, seventy seven

119
00:07:22.120 --> 00:07:26.120
<v Speaker 2>to twelve games. But all of those seasons, all of

120
00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:30.879
<v Speaker 2>those seasons he pitched magnificently. I mean again, if you're

121
00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:34.720
<v Speaker 2>a real baseball fan, wins and losses are important, but

122
00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:38.120
<v Speaker 2>things like earned run average and whip, you know, walks

123
00:07:38.120 --> 00:07:43.519
<v Speaker 2>and hits per inning pitch pitched. That is now the

124
00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:46.639
<v Speaker 2>sacred scroll in which people ad judged because you could

125
00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:49.759
<v Speaker 2>be a great pitcher for a bad team and you

126
00:07:49.879 --> 00:07:52.639
<v Speaker 2>might lose more games than you win, but that's the

127
00:07:52.680 --> 00:07:54.639
<v Speaker 2>pitcher who if they can get that pitcher to a

128
00:07:54.680 --> 00:07:58.399
<v Speaker 2>good team, that picture that can become dominant. But enough

129
00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:02.439
<v Speaker 2>about Willie Lewis's career. I had the good fortune to

130
00:08:02.439 --> 00:08:06.360
<v Speaker 2>meet him many times, and he would always remember your

131
00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:08.680
<v Speaker 2>face and also always remember your name. He was just

132
00:08:08.720 --> 00:08:14.319
<v Speaker 2>an extraordinary guy, plain and simple, Louis Tian. So what

133
00:08:14.360 --> 00:08:16.240
<v Speaker 2>I'd like to do is open up the phone lines

134
00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:23.360
<v Speaker 2>and hear your stories about Louis Tiant because particularly for

135
00:08:23.480 --> 00:08:28.480
<v Speaker 2>people you know who have been I don't know, were

136
00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:31.800
<v Speaker 2>born after nineteen ninety, they never would have seen Louis pitch.

137
00:08:32.679 --> 00:08:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Louie's career was over in the early nineteen eighties, they

138
00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:38.480
<v Speaker 2>never would have would have seen him on the mound.

139
00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:41.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean he was he was a showman on the mound.

140
00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:45.120
<v Speaker 2>And you know, if you've seen the video, you know

141
00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:49.480
<v Speaker 2>what I'm talking about. So those of you who spent

142
00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:53.639
<v Speaker 2>interacted with him, I would see him at this restaurant

143
00:08:54.080 --> 00:09:01.919
<v Speaker 2>in Milton, which was just a wonderful a restaurant. Would

144
00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:04.120
<v Speaker 2>go there, I'd go there for breakfast, and more often

145
00:09:04.159 --> 00:09:07.360
<v Speaker 2>than not, Louis would be there and we'd have a conversation.

146
00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:10.799
<v Speaker 2>Uh and uh, Louis would always try to buy you.

147
00:09:10.960 --> 00:09:13.559
<v Speaker 2>I buy breakfast. I know, Louis, you bought breakfast last time.

148
00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:16.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm buying you up. Oh no, no, no, Louis buy breakfast.

149
00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:18.600
<v Speaker 2>That was the sort of guy he was. I mean,

150
00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:21.759
<v Speaker 2>he was as regular a guy as as as you

151
00:09:21.799 --> 00:09:25.879
<v Speaker 2>could find. And those of you who might remember Louis

152
00:09:25.919 --> 00:09:29.120
<v Speaker 2>when when he came to the Red Sox, and even

153
00:09:29.159 --> 00:09:31.879
<v Speaker 2>after he left the Red Sox, he was doing television

154
00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:35.440
<v Speaker 2>commercials for I think it was a paint store, might

155
00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:38.120
<v Speaker 2>have been one of the big paint and you know

156
00:09:38.200 --> 00:09:41.159
<v Speaker 2>Louis English at that of course, his English now was superb,

157
00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:46.600
<v Speaker 2>but his English at that time was unlimited. But it was.

158
00:09:46.759 --> 00:09:48.840
<v Speaker 2>It was a commercial everybody watched because it was Louis

159
00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:51.840
<v Speaker 2>ti On. So anyway, I'm going to open up these lines. Uh,

160
00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:58.279
<v Speaker 2>all the the lines are open at six one, seven ninety.

161
00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:01.480
<v Speaker 2>We did those for the the Tina Turner tickets. Will

162
00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:04.440
<v Speaker 2>do them next hour, So stay away you Tina Turner fans,

163
00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:06.840
<v Speaker 2>but if you're a Louis Tian fans six month, seven

164
00:10:06.879 --> 00:10:10.559
<v Speaker 2>ninety three thirty and I got one line in six one, seven, two, five, four,

165
00:10:10.639 --> 00:10:13.039
<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. We'll be back on Nightside right after this.

166
00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:18.399
<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

167
00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:22.080
<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

168
00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:25.440
<v Speaker 2>I was just looking at Louis Tian's career. We talked

169
00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:28.799
<v Speaker 2>about wins and losses and all of that. According to

170
00:10:29.360 --> 00:10:32.200
<v Speaker 2>apparently he passed away in Wells, Maine. I don't know

171
00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:38.960
<v Speaker 2>the circumstances. Uh. He was born in nineteen forty in Mariano, Cuba,

172
00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:46.480
<v Speaker 2>UH and of course was probably what nineteen years old

173
00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:51.279
<v Speaker 2>when the Cuban Revolution occurred in nineteen fifty nine, was

174
00:10:51.320 --> 00:10:53.639
<v Speaker 2>able to get out of the country UH, and was

175
00:10:53.679 --> 00:10:57.720
<v Speaker 2>pitching for the Mexico City Tigers in Mexico. He didn't

176
00:10:57.759 --> 00:11:02.480
<v Speaker 2>think he would ever go back to Cuba. He was

177
00:11:02.519 --> 00:11:05.639
<v Speaker 2>traded who sold rather by the Mexico City Tigers to

178
00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:13.120
<v Speaker 2>the Cleveland Indians in nineteen sixty two. Cleveland traded him

179
00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:16.159
<v Speaker 2>to Minnesota in nineteen seventy one, and in the spring

180
00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:21.080
<v Speaker 2>of seventy one he's released by the Minnesota Twins signed

181
00:11:21.080 --> 00:11:23.960
<v Speaker 2>with the Atlanta Braves. His career obviously was in trouble

182
00:11:23.960 --> 00:11:26.200
<v Speaker 2>at that point. He was released by the Atlanta Braves.

183
00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:29.759
<v Speaker 2>Never pitched in a Major League game for the Atlanta Braves.

184
00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Thankfully signed by the Boston Red Sox in nineteen seventy one,

185
00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:39.639
<v Speaker 2>and the rest is history, and he had his best

186
00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:42.720
<v Speaker 2>years here in Boston. He was one of those first

187
00:11:42.759 --> 00:11:44.840
<v Speaker 2>guys who became a free agent and was signed by

188
00:11:44.879 --> 00:11:50.600
<v Speaker 2>the Yankees in November of seventy eight, shortly after the

189
00:11:51.279 --> 00:11:54.559
<v Speaker 2>Bucky Dent home run. If you remember that, pitched for

190
00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:56.720
<v Speaker 2>a couple of years with the Yankees. I remember when

191
00:11:56.759 --> 00:11:58.840
<v Speaker 2>he left Boston, there was a big news conference at

192
00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Logan Airport and I covered that news conference. So he

193
00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:08.840
<v Speaker 2>pitched for the Yankees, was given free agency by the Yankees,

194
00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:13.919
<v Speaker 2>signed by the Pirates, released by the Pirates, sold to

195
00:12:14.039 --> 00:12:18.879
<v Speaker 2>the Tabasco So he went to play for a team

196
00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:22.159
<v Speaker 2>in Tabasco, Mexico, who sold his rights back to the

197
00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:25.039
<v Speaker 2>California Angels. So it was a very interesting career for

198
00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Louis Tian. I mean, let's go to phones. Your memory

199
00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:34.000
<v Speaker 2>of Louis Tion Maybe you bumped into him, maybe you

200
00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:36.519
<v Speaker 2>saw a great game in Fenway Park, and ladies, you

201
00:12:36.519 --> 00:12:38.960
<v Speaker 2>are more than welcome to participated this. So far, all

202
00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:41.720
<v Speaker 2>the callers are mail. The only lines that are available

203
00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:45.039
<v Speaker 2>right now are six, one, seven, nine, ten thirty. Let

204
00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:47.879
<v Speaker 2>me start it off with Dennis and Lowell. Dennis, what's

205
00:12:47.879 --> 00:12:50.120
<v Speaker 2>your Louis Tion story? Go ahead, Dennis.

206
00:12:51.080 --> 00:12:53.360
<v Speaker 4>Of course, Dan, you know I had to call. He's

207
00:12:53.399 --> 00:12:58.279
<v Speaker 4>talking about baseball stories. Absolutely, I met Louis at least

208
00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:04.399
<v Speaker 4>two times, one time in andover at a sports night.

209
00:13:04.960 --> 00:13:08.080
<v Speaker 4>I sat at the table with him and Casey Jones

210
00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:11.080
<v Speaker 4>and sat Sanders. Now that's not a bad trio.

211
00:13:11.559 --> 00:13:15.399
<v Speaker 2>That's not a backgroop. Whatso there's a few championship rings there.

212
00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:21.039
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I guess. Oh you talk about his record nineteen

213
00:13:21.080 --> 00:13:24.120
<v Speaker 4>sixty eighty earn run average of one point six oher.

214
00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:27.399
<v Speaker 4>You know, great year in sixty eight, but of course

215
00:13:27.720 --> 00:13:32.840
<v Speaker 4>the year remember best nineteen seventy five when he said

216
00:13:32.679 --> 00:13:35.960
<v Speaker 4>he remember he threw one hundred and fifty five pitches

217
00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:39.519
<v Speaker 4>in one game. He won game four in nineteen seventy five.

218
00:13:40.159 --> 00:13:42.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's unheard of, unheard of.

219
00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:50.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was clutch and his style, his rotating acrobatic,

220
00:13:51.480 --> 00:13:56.960
<v Speaker 4>you know, facing the center field, having around pitching, and.

221
00:13:56.919 --> 00:13:59.840
<v Speaker 2>He didn't have the build of an acrobat, if you get.

222
00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:05.200
<v Speaker 4>My yeah, not at all. And I'll just I'll just

223
00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:08.440
<v Speaker 4>finish up. He came to Lowell about nineteen eighty eight

224
00:14:08.799 --> 00:14:12.360
<v Speaker 4>when we're desegregating the schools, and I rode a bus

225
00:14:12.440 --> 00:14:15.480
<v Speaker 4>with him, you know, and here what a nice man

226
00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:18.360
<v Speaker 4>like you said. He's a very very nice man.

227
00:14:19.399 --> 00:14:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Great gentleman. Every time I met him. I mean, there's

228
00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:24.759
<v Speaker 2>a big bear hog and a handshake. You know. He's

229
00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:27.080
<v Speaker 2>one of those guys that had his hands were like,

230
00:14:27.159 --> 00:14:30.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, shaking hands with uh, you know, a bear

231
00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:33.600
<v Speaker 2>or something you felt like you were from a baseball glove.

232
00:14:34.519 --> 00:14:37.480
<v Speaker 4>Oh it's great now, but great person anyway.

233
00:14:38.039 --> 00:14:43.080
<v Speaker 2>Great, appreciate your calls. A baseball guy. I know that

234
00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:44.759
<v Speaker 2>from from many years ago.

235
00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:47.559
<v Speaker 4>Okay, thank you, talk to.

236
00:14:47.519 --> 00:14:49.960
<v Speaker 2>You, my friend. I'll keep rolling here. See who else?

237
00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:51.639
<v Speaker 2>What are the stories we have? Let's go to Mike

238
00:14:51.679 --> 00:14:53.720
<v Speaker 2>in Plymouth. Mike, you next side, Welcome?

239
00:14:53.720 --> 00:14:56.679
<v Speaker 5>How are you, hi, Dan, how are you tonight? Thanks

240
00:14:56.679 --> 00:14:57.399
<v Speaker 5>for taking my call.

241
00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:01.919
<v Speaker 2>Remembering Louis t On and again this is there's a

242
00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:03.720
<v Speaker 2>lot of people out there tonight who are young in

243
00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:07.960
<v Speaker 2>the audience, who they think about Louis Tiant maybe like

244
00:15:08.799 --> 00:15:11.679
<v Speaker 2>those of us think about Cy Young or someone. I mean,

245
00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:18.480
<v Speaker 2>his his career was for all intents and purposes over. Well,

246
00:15:18.519 --> 00:15:21.120
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't over, but it was. You know, it's over

247
00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:23.279
<v Speaker 2>forty five years ago. It's been forty five years, and

248
00:15:23.320 --> 00:15:25.759
<v Speaker 2>he threw a pitch in the major leagues. Well, it

249
00:15:25.799 --> 00:15:27.679
<v Speaker 2>would be forty nine. No, now, let me see, it

250
00:15:27.679 --> 00:15:31.279
<v Speaker 2>would be forty two years ago. So it's forty let's

251
00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:33.600
<v Speaker 2>just say forty years. You'd have to be at least

252
00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:35.759
<v Speaker 2>fifty years old. Who have ever seen a pitch so

253
00:15:36.799 --> 00:15:37.159
<v Speaker 2>in person?

254
00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:41.600
<v Speaker 5>Well, I was born in sixty one, so I'm sixty

255
00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:45.480
<v Speaker 5>three years old man, and I do remember him pitching.

256
00:15:45.559 --> 00:15:47.639
<v Speaker 5>I don't say. I can't say for sure I ever

257
00:15:47.679 --> 00:15:51.159
<v Speaker 5>saw him pitch live at some way, but I remember

258
00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:54.720
<v Speaker 5>the seventy five series like it was yesterday. Yeah, however,

259
00:15:56.200 --> 00:15:59.320
<v Speaker 5>as great as that that was, to see, my story

260
00:15:59.399 --> 00:16:02.159
<v Speaker 5>is about heart, not about baseball. And I'm going to

261
00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:04.080
<v Speaker 5>tell you why I grew up.

262
00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:07.879
<v Speaker 2>As to Louis, we're not acre ahead.

263
00:16:09.480 --> 00:16:14.360
<v Speaker 5>Well, the story is about his son, Louis Junior. As

264
00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:17.399
<v Speaker 5>you know, he was from Milton, and I grew up

265
00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:19.279
<v Speaker 5>in the city of Boston, but we moved to Milton

266
00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:22.000
<v Speaker 5>when I was in junior high and I played Milton

267
00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:25.919
<v Speaker 5>youth hockey and Louis son played in Milton youth hockey

268
00:16:26.279 --> 00:16:29.600
<v Speaker 5>against me at Milton at the Milton Academy rink on

269
00:16:29.720 --> 00:16:33.600
<v Speaker 5>Sunday mornings and Sunday nights, and I had the pleasure

270
00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:36.679
<v Speaker 5>or misfortune, whichever you want to call it. Infamy, I

271
00:16:36.679 --> 00:16:41.240
<v Speaker 5>guess of scoring one goal against his son, who played

272
00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:44.320
<v Speaker 5>goalie for the Flyers that year, and it was either

273
00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:47.879
<v Speaker 5>seventy four or seventy five. I scored the one goal

274
00:16:47.960 --> 00:16:50.759
<v Speaker 5>to break up his son Louis shut out against us,

275
00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:53.480
<v Speaker 5>and his son was very upset at the end of

276
00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:56.559
<v Speaker 5>the game and nudging me and pointing at me saying

277
00:16:56.600 --> 00:17:00.240
<v Speaker 5>you you, you, you you. And Louis came over and said, hey,

278
00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:02.960
<v Speaker 5>give him a high five and shake his hand. You

279
00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:05.079
<v Speaker 5>know he's scoring on it. There's nothing you can do.

280
00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:07.440
<v Speaker 5>That's the type of guy he was. His son was

281
00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:11.119
<v Speaker 5>upset that he lost the shutout good nakedly. Of course

282
00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:12.200
<v Speaker 5>he wasn't really crying.

283
00:17:12.279 --> 00:17:14.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, no, no, I get that. Sure. Well, that's

284
00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:16.880
<v Speaker 2>what sportsmanship is all about. It, That's that's it.

285
00:17:17.079 --> 00:17:20.000
<v Speaker 5>And my older brother my older brother and his best

286
00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:22.440
<v Speaker 5>friend were in the stands and saw me score that goal.

287
00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:25.599
<v Speaker 5>And I'll tell you it was it was one of

288
00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:28.519
<v Speaker 5>the greatest memories of my childhood. And for Louis to

289
00:17:28.519 --> 00:17:30.799
<v Speaker 5>come up afterwards and say, hey, nice job kid. You

290
00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:33.279
<v Speaker 5>know I was twelve or thirteen years old. I think

291
00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:35.279
<v Speaker 5>it was thirteen or fourteen years old at the time.

292
00:17:36.880 --> 00:17:39.640
<v Speaker 5>That memory is forever etched in my mind. And I'll

293
00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:41.440
<v Speaker 5>again if your.

294
00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Math is if you said you were born in nineteen

295
00:17:43.519 --> 00:17:47.440
<v Speaker 2>sixty one, right, right, yep, Okay, so if you were

296
00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:50.720
<v Speaker 2>twelve or thirteen years old, that would get you to

297
00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:55.240
<v Speaker 2>seventy three or seventy four. And Na ti On was

298
00:17:55.480 --> 00:17:58.519
<v Speaker 2>as big in Boston as Pedro Martinez ever won. It's

299
00:17:58.519 --> 00:18:01.240
<v Speaker 2>a matter of fact, in seventy four. Louis that year

300
00:18:02.279 --> 00:18:07.920
<v Speaker 2>won twenty two games.

301
00:18:05.480 --> 00:18:08.200
<v Speaker 5>That's my point. And he was a regular guy. He

302
00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:10.359
<v Speaker 5>went and watched this kid play hockey in the winter,

303
00:18:10.519 --> 00:18:12.920
<v Speaker 5>you know. So it had to be in December and

304
00:18:13.039 --> 00:18:16.720
<v Speaker 5>January before spring training started, which it was probably a

305
00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:19.440
<v Speaker 5>January Sunday night more than like early.

306
00:18:20.119 --> 00:18:23.559
<v Speaker 2>And that that year, okay, of we were talking about

307
00:18:23.559 --> 00:18:26.960
<v Speaker 2>seventy four, he pitched three hundred and eleven innings. I

308
00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:28.839
<v Speaker 2>don't think there's a Red Sox started this year who

309
00:18:28.839 --> 00:18:30.720
<v Speaker 2>pitched over two hundred innings.

310
00:18:31.720 --> 00:18:34.200
<v Speaker 5>He skate this a complete game in the seventy five

311
00:18:35.319 --> 00:18:37.839
<v Speaker 5>complete game, shutout five nothing in the first game of

312
00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:39.599
<v Speaker 5>the seventy five World Series.

313
00:18:39.960 --> 00:18:42.920
<v Speaker 4>Wah No, that's unheard of today.

314
00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:46.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think he had.

315
00:18:46.880 --> 00:18:50.079
<v Speaker 6>He had three wins October in the postseason.

316
00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know he had three wins in the in

317
00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:56.920
<v Speaker 2>the seventy five World Series. Mike, that's a great Believe

318
00:18:57.000 --> 00:18:59.400
<v Speaker 2>me as a as a guy who played goal in

319
00:18:59.480 --> 00:19:01.880
<v Speaker 2>high school a little bit in college. Were a lot

320
00:19:01.880 --> 00:19:02.440
<v Speaker 2>of guys.

321
00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:05.039
<v Speaker 5>I knew you played hockey.

322
00:19:05.559 --> 00:19:08.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I made my kids skate out, so you have

323
00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:10.079
<v Speaker 2>to pick pucks out of the net.

324
00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:10.880
<v Speaker 7>And I did.

325
00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:13.480
<v Speaker 5>I think I know that Milton restaurant you're talking about too,

326
00:19:13.559 --> 00:19:17.279
<v Speaker 5>Is it the one up by the Yeah?

327
00:19:17.440 --> 00:19:20.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, Louis was there. More of Louis and

328
00:19:20.200 --> 00:19:22.519
<v Speaker 2>his and his beautiful wife Maria would be there. And

329
00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:24.839
<v Speaker 2>Maria is just lovely, I mean, one of the loveliest

330
00:19:24.839 --> 00:19:26.000
<v Speaker 2>people you'd ever want.

331
00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:28.359
<v Speaker 5>A fantastic guy. Fantastic guy.

332
00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:34.759
<v Speaker 2>Great, I appreciate it. Appreciate all right, we won't see

333
00:19:34.759 --> 00:19:37.440
<v Speaker 2>he's kind again. I don't think thanks, I don't think

334
00:19:38.519 --> 00:19:41.200
<v Speaker 2>all right. I have a great one, good night. Great

335
00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:43.720
<v Speaker 2>articles in the Herald or other in the Globe today,

336
00:19:43.720 --> 00:19:50.039
<v Speaker 2>particularly Dan Shaughnessy and Peter Abraham's article, amongst others, uh,

337
00:19:50.160 --> 00:19:53.480
<v Speaker 2>in other newspapers, But feel free to join the conversation.

338
00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:55.680
<v Speaker 2>I like to hear some of you Louis Tian stories.

339
00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:57.720
<v Speaker 2>He was around, whether you were a kid and you

340
00:19:57.759 --> 00:19:59.720
<v Speaker 2>went and you watched him play, whether you were diehard

341
00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:04.000
<v Speaker 2>rich fan. Again, people who were under twenty, they don't

342
00:20:04.039 --> 00:20:06.599
<v Speaker 2>have any recollection of a guy who would pitch when

343
00:20:06.680 --> 00:20:07.720
<v Speaker 2>twenty two games.

344
00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:08.319
<v Speaker 8>Uh.

345
00:20:08.359 --> 00:20:10.519
<v Speaker 2>And then of course in seventy five he won eighteen

346
00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:13.279
<v Speaker 2>games and won won three games in the World Series

347
00:20:13.319 --> 00:20:18.160
<v Speaker 2>that year. That's they don't make baseball players like Louis

348
00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:21.599
<v Speaker 2>taunt and uh. That's that was part of the magic

349
00:20:21.640 --> 00:20:26.400
<v Speaker 2>and the mystique of him. I love baseball. Louis was

350
00:20:26.440 --> 00:20:28.240
<v Speaker 2>a great guy. I got to know him, you know,

351
00:20:28.559 --> 00:20:30.680
<v Speaker 2>not my closest friend to the world, trust me on that,

352
00:20:31.359 --> 00:20:35.039
<v Speaker 2>but I knew him very well and a gentleman, never

353
00:20:35.200 --> 00:20:38.519
<v Speaker 2>a taint of scandal or anything like that. He was

354
00:20:38.680 --> 00:20:42.160
<v Speaker 2>just a baseball player who loved the game and loved

355
00:20:42.160 --> 00:20:44.880
<v Speaker 2>the city of Boston, and the city loved him back.

356
00:20:45.519 --> 00:20:47.599
<v Speaker 2>Here's the news. We're coming right back. I got one

357
00:20:47.640 --> 00:20:49.759
<v Speaker 2>line at six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty.

358
00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:51.960
<v Speaker 2>I got two lines at six one seven, nine, three, one,

359
00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:54.319
<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. And I know that some of you ladies

360
00:20:54.359 --> 00:20:58.160
<v Speaker 2>out there at some point met Louis uh and I'd

361
00:20:58.160 --> 00:21:00.680
<v Speaker 2>love to hear your stories as well. Back on nights after.

362
00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:10.039
<v Speaker 1>This Night's Side with Dan Ray ONBZ Boston's news radio.

363
00:21:08.640 --> 00:21:10.039
<v Speaker 2>Back to the phones, wed go, let me go to

364
00:21:10.079 --> 00:21:13.839
<v Speaker 2>Steve and Stephen in Franklin, Massachusetts. Steven, welcome next on

365
00:21:13.920 --> 00:21:15.119
<v Speaker 2>nightscer right ahead.

366
00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:17.880
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, a day in that. I mean, you mentioned that

367
00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:22.880
<v Speaker 6>Louis escaped from Cuba. I guess jose Knseko escaped from Cuba.

368
00:21:23.960 --> 00:21:26.039
<v Speaker 2>A lot of these players got out of Cuba. It

369
00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:28.480
<v Speaker 2>probably was a little easier when Kenseco got out. I mean,

370
00:21:28.680 --> 00:21:32.079
<v Speaker 2>it's not easy at all. But Louis would have gotten

371
00:21:32.079 --> 00:21:35.680
<v Speaker 2>out either just before or just after the revolution in

372
00:21:35.759 --> 00:21:39.759
<v Speaker 2>fifty nine. He didn't see his family, his dad until

373
00:21:39.839 --> 00:21:42.440
<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy five. There was a story about some of

374
00:21:42.480 --> 00:21:46.400
<v Speaker 2>the politicians here in Massachusetts who were able to convince

375
00:21:46.440 --> 00:21:50.039
<v Speaker 2>Castro to allow Louis's dad, who was a great baseball player, to.

376
00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:53.400
<v Speaker 6>Go yatch, he was letting some people out in.

377
00:21:53.319 --> 00:21:54.200
<v Speaker 2>The major leagues.

378
00:21:54.319 --> 00:21:57.359
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, come to think of you, when you mentioned seventy five,

379
00:21:57.759 --> 00:21:59.960
<v Speaker 6>I was thinking of seventy seven when the Red Sox

380
00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:02.039
<v Speaker 6>had that fourteen game lead.

381
00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Then they blew.

382
00:22:03.440 --> 00:22:08.000
<v Speaker 6>It with the Yankees. Oh yeah, he was probably on

383
00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:08.480
<v Speaker 6>the team.

384
00:22:09.119 --> 00:22:11.519
<v Speaker 2>He was Yo. Absolutely, seventy seven.

385
00:22:12.839 --> 00:22:13.400
<v Speaker 7>They blew it.

386
00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:15.319
<v Speaker 6>But anyway, I'm.

387
00:22:15.160 --> 00:22:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Not sure if you're thinking of seventy seven or if

388
00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:19.119
<v Speaker 2>you think seventy eight.

389
00:22:19.880 --> 00:22:20.359
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

390
00:22:21.039 --> 00:22:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in eight when they had a pretty comfortable lead

391
00:22:27.480 --> 00:22:30.079
<v Speaker 2>in early September and the games just chipped away. That

392
00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:33.000
<v Speaker 2>was the y They had the one game playoff, yep

393
00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:36.720
<v Speaker 2>with the Yankees when Bucky whose name shall not be

394
00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:39.359
<v Speaker 2>mentioned his middle name shall not be mentioned, on the

395
00:22:39.440 --> 00:22:43.359
<v Speaker 2>year Dent, Bucky Dent, you know Homeward. You know.

396
00:22:43.440 --> 00:22:45.680
<v Speaker 6>I went over my friend's house and the guy was

397
00:22:46.119 --> 00:22:50.200
<v Speaker 6>relating the Red Sox and he said that that ground

398
00:22:50.279 --> 00:22:53.839
<v Speaker 6>ball Buckner Mookie Wilson thought he could have beat it

399
00:22:53.880 --> 00:22:54.599
<v Speaker 6>out anyway.

400
00:22:55.799 --> 00:22:59.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, it doesn't matter because it went through Buckner's legs.

401
00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:02.640
<v Speaker 2>But that was after.

402
00:23:01.839 --> 00:23:05.640
<v Speaker 6>That was after Louis time could beat it out anyway,

403
00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:06.559
<v Speaker 6>but I was.

404
00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:10.160
<v Speaker 2>After after his time. My one story about that I

405
00:23:10.319 --> 00:23:14.279
<v Speaker 2>remember so vividly about Louis was nineteen sixty five when

406
00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:16.759
<v Speaker 2>he was pitching in his first year for the Indians.

407
00:23:17.799 --> 00:23:21.400
<v Speaker 2>He pitched and uh at Fenway Park late in the season.

408
00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:23.960
<v Speaker 2>There are about a thousand people in the ballpark that afternoon.

409
00:23:23.960 --> 00:23:26.880
<v Speaker 2>It was a Thursday afternoon, and he lost.

410
00:23:26.920 --> 00:23:28.839
<v Speaker 6>There've been there in the sixties.

411
00:23:29.519 --> 00:23:31.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, he lost the Frank.

412
00:23:31.160 --> 00:23:33.039
<v Speaker 6>Coward the Senators.

413
00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:35.160
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell that story later.

414
00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:40.279
<v Speaker 6>We'll look for retirement. He's walking with a cane.

415
00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, it happens to all of us. Steven. I

416
00:23:43.880 --> 00:23:47.480
<v Speaker 2>appreciate your call, Thank you very much, No problem, Bye bye.

417
00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:50.400
<v Speaker 2>The story that I was going to tell was that

418
00:23:51.920 --> 00:23:57.039
<v Speaker 2>late September game, the Red Sox were in probably ninth

419
00:23:57.079 --> 00:23:59.640
<v Speaker 2>place or something like that. I think that was the

420
00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:03.079
<v Speaker 2>The league was ten at that point, and the Indians

421
00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:04.400
<v Speaker 2>were there, and I had a friend of mine who

422
00:24:04.440 --> 00:24:06.839
<v Speaker 2>was on the Indians, and so I had tickets right

423
00:24:06.880 --> 00:24:10.000
<v Speaker 2>next to the Indians, dugout and was stayed with my dad.

424
00:24:10.039 --> 00:24:11.599
<v Speaker 2>I was a seventeen year old kid at the time,

425
00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:15.000
<v Speaker 2>and Louis was pitching for the Indians, and he lost

426
00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:18.440
<v Speaker 2>that day to nothing. There was a Red Sox pitcher

427
00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:23.000
<v Speaker 2>by the name of Dave Moorehead, who was not the

428
00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:25.480
<v Speaker 2>greatest Red Sox pitcher in history, not the best known,

429
00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:28.480
<v Speaker 2>but Dave Morehead happened to throw a no hitter that afternoon,

430
00:24:29.799 --> 00:24:33.839
<v Speaker 2>and Louis lost to nothing. Pitch very well, but Moorehead

431
00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:36.839
<v Speaker 2>that day threw a no hitter, and you generally don't

432
00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:39.079
<v Speaker 2>beat guys that throw no hitters. So that was a

433
00:24:39.119 --> 00:24:41.279
<v Speaker 2>no hitter that I had that I witnessed. So again,

434
00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:43.720
<v Speaker 2>I think the official attendant that day was twelve hundred.

435
00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:47.720
<v Speaker 2>It was the depth of the Red Sox two years

436
00:24:47.759 --> 00:24:52.559
<v Speaker 2>before the Miracle year, the impossible Dream of nineteen sixty

437
00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:54.599
<v Speaker 2>seven where we got to go. Next, let me go

438
00:24:54.680 --> 00:24:58.200
<v Speaker 2>to Gail in Lancaster. Hey, Gail, thank you for calling in.

439
00:24:58.240 --> 00:24:58.920
<v Speaker 2>How are you tonight?

440
00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:00.880
<v Speaker 8>Oh fine, thank you.

441
00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:01.359
<v Speaker 2>Dan.

442
00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:02.920
<v Speaker 4>I just have a quick story.

443
00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:08.759
<v Speaker 8>Nineteen seventy five World Series. I saw Ltiante, I saw

444
00:25:08.839 --> 00:25:13.279
<v Speaker 8>Louis tiant pitch. I was with my dad and missus

445
00:25:13.359 --> 00:25:17.640
<v Speaker 8>Kean was ahead of us, you know, in the stands,

446
00:25:17.640 --> 00:25:22.079
<v Speaker 8>and she had this giant noise maker thing she was.

447
00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:26.960
<v Speaker 8>It was amazing, just amazing.

448
00:25:27.519 --> 00:25:33.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, his wife Maria was was one of the prettiest women.

449
00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:36.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean just in terms of wholesome, pretty looks.

450
00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:39.000
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I know she was something yet.

451
00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'm talking about seeing her a couple of

452
00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:45.039
<v Speaker 2>years ago when probably you know, she and Louis were

453
00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:48.599
<v Speaker 2>both eighty years old. They were a vibrant couple. I mean,

454
00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:52.880
<v Speaker 2>they enjoyed life. As I said, I would see them

455
00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:57.079
<v Speaker 2>at this restaurant in Milton that I frequented, and Louis

456
00:25:57.119 --> 00:26:00.640
<v Speaker 2>would be there and it'd be holding court. You know,

457
00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:03.720
<v Speaker 2>people would come by and shake his hand, and he

458
00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:06.559
<v Speaker 2>was he was kind and and and generous with his

459
00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:09.480
<v Speaker 2>time to everyone, which you know, it was kind of

460
00:26:09.480 --> 00:26:13.000
<v Speaker 2>hard to do after a while, you know, you he

461
00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:15.920
<v Speaker 2>probably he probably met virtually everybody in Boston. I would

462
00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:19.039
<v Speaker 2>think at some point or another he he was around

463
00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:21.799
<v Speaker 2>and uh, you know, I just when I when I

464
00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:24.000
<v Speaker 2>saw this yesterday, the Globe broke the story that he

465
00:26:24.039 --> 00:26:26.480
<v Speaker 2>had passed, and it just hit me. I mean, I

466
00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:28.759
<v Speaker 2>wasn't his closest friend or anything like that. I knew

467
00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:31.480
<v Speaker 2>him a little bit, knew him, you know enough. We

468
00:26:31.599 --> 00:26:33.319
<v Speaker 2>knew each other's names and all of that, and we

469
00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:40.640
<v Speaker 2>knew each other's families. But it's impossible, Gail, for people

470
00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:44.279
<v Speaker 2>who weren't living in the seventies and baseball fians in

471
00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:46.799
<v Speaker 2>Boston to know the impact that he had on the

472
00:26:46.839 --> 00:26:48.400
<v Speaker 2>city and on the team.

473
00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:49.440
<v Speaker 4>I agree.

474
00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:53.400
<v Speaker 8>No, a wonderful person and it's a great loss.

475
00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:56.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, as they say. The other thing, too, is that

476
00:26:56.920 --> 00:27:02.160
<v Speaker 2>today when you see the pictures, a lot of them

477
00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:07.720
<v Speaker 2>like six four six ' five, Louis was probably five ten,

478
00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:11.680
<v Speaker 2>five eleven on a really good day. He didn't have

479
00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:15.039
<v Speaker 2>true he didn't have the body structure of the pictures

480
00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:17.400
<v Speaker 2>that happen today. I think about Chris Sales six seven

481
00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:24.480
<v Speaker 2>years old, six seven, six feet seven inches. But Louis

482
00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:29.039
<v Speaker 2>did it. Louis won. Amazing, just an amazing guy.

483
00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:32.119
<v Speaker 4>Thanks so much, Jail, thank you, thank you.

484
00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Talk to you soon. Let me get one more in

485
00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:37.119
<v Speaker 2>here before we got to go to break. We get

486
00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:39.599
<v Speaker 2>more calls coming in, which is great. We got Bob

487
00:27:39.640 --> 00:27:42.119
<v Speaker 2>and Raynham. Hey Bob, thanks for calling in your thoughts,

488
00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:45.200
<v Speaker 2>your recollection of the great Louis tant ltante.

489
00:27:46.440 --> 00:27:48.640
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and I get an unbelievable story to tell you.

490
00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:51.839
<v Speaker 2>So I met Louis all the years go ahead.

491
00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:56.160
<v Speaker 9>I met Louis on September twenty second of this year.

492
00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:01.400
<v Speaker 9>It was a Sunday afternoon game against the Twins. I

493
00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:07.720
<v Speaker 9>received a gift of tickets. Long story I bought. I

494
00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:10.799
<v Speaker 9>bought a Tim Wakefield autograph baseball at the God Sale

495
00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:14.880
<v Speaker 9>a few years ago for God. I had it when

496
00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:17.640
<v Speaker 9>he passed away. I was planing up junk in my cellar.

497
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:21.480
<v Speaker 9>I got the ball. I gave it to the Red

498
00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:24.039
<v Speaker 9>Sox organization. I knew he was in charge of that

499
00:28:24.920 --> 00:28:26.680
<v Speaker 9>and they were going to take it in auction it

500
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:28.799
<v Speaker 9>off and they gave me a hat and a shirt

501
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:32.359
<v Speaker 9>that was back in January. They said, you know, make

502
00:28:32.359 --> 00:28:34.400
<v Speaker 9>sure you call us. We'll get your tickets to the game.

503
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:37.720
<v Speaker 9>So anyway, they got me tickets to the game. I

504
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:41.079
<v Speaker 9>was in the deull box and Louie was standing was

505
00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:44.319
<v Speaker 9>I'm sorry. We were eating breakfast and Louis was in

506
00:28:44.359 --> 00:28:48.519
<v Speaker 9>there with his wife Maria. I introduced myself to both

507
00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:53.039
<v Speaker 9>of them, and you know, I told Louis, you know

508
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:56.920
<v Speaker 9>you were one of my boy had boyhood idols. I

509
00:28:57.000 --> 00:29:00.880
<v Speaker 9>was fifteen and nineteen seventy five. I suppose to Maria

510
00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:04.440
<v Speaker 9>briefly and I shook his hand and I was like,

511
00:29:05.079 --> 00:29:07.039
<v Speaker 9>and then when I heard I was like, oh my god,

512
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:10.519
<v Speaker 9>I like, I feel like I was blessed to be

513
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:12.440
<v Speaker 9>able to shake his hand and meet him.

514
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:15.599
<v Speaker 2>You know, there was nothing, There was nothing in the

515
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:19.880
<v Speaker 2>newspapers that that he was sick, you know. And I

516
00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:23.920
<v Speaker 2>just was reading an obituary which said that he passed

517
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:26.960
<v Speaker 2>in Wells, Maine. So I'm sure more and more will

518
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:28.839
<v Speaker 2>come out about it if you, if you read either

519
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Shaughnessy or Peter Abraham and the Globe today.

520
00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:36.000
<v Speaker 9>I would think I would rather be I would think

521
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:38.279
<v Speaker 9>it would have had to have been rather sudden, because

522
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:41.559
<v Speaker 9>again I saw him on the twenty second of September,

523
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:45.680
<v Speaker 9>and he was definitely slow. And actually when I saw

524
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:47.400
<v Speaker 9>him walk to the men's room and I asked his

525
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:50.400
<v Speaker 9>wife Maria, Hey, how's it doing, and she said, oh,

526
00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:54.039
<v Speaker 9>he's doing okay. And but he was definitely slowing down

527
00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:54.519
<v Speaker 9>for sure.

528
00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Well he was at that age we all we all

529
00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:00.559
<v Speaker 2>slow down. But look, that's only that's less than three

530
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:02.960
<v Speaker 2>weeks ago. When you think about it, I mean today

531
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:07.599
<v Speaker 2>is the ninth of October. That's that's two and a

532
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:10.079
<v Speaker 2>half weeks ago. You had a chance to see him,

533
00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:13.920
<v Speaker 2>so I can understand. I mean, again, i'd heard heard

534
00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:19.079
<v Speaker 2>nothing either publicly or privately that Louis was in any trouble,

535
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:22.519
<v Speaker 2>but you know you had a chance to meet him,

536
00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:28.920
<v Speaker 2>which I had that opportunity to and just you know,

537
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:34.319
<v Speaker 2>again it's there's a few players that connect, but they

538
00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:38.240
<v Speaker 2>connect as athletes, you know Bobby or Ted Williams, Kyle Ustremsky.

539
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:41.920
<v Speaker 2>But his involvement with the city, and of course Tim

540
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Wakefield was another one. You mentioned Tim Wakefield, who really

541
00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:48.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, came to Boston and you know Tim Wakefield's

542
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:52.039
<v Speaker 2>his career looked pretty much over with the Pirates, but

543
00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:54.799
<v Speaker 2>he came here and learned a knuckleball and it was

544
00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:57.039
<v Speaker 2>great about baseball is you don't have to be of

545
00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:02.359
<v Speaker 2>certain measurements to play a lot. In football, you got

546
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:05.680
<v Speaker 2>to be pretty big. I mean even the wide receivers

547
00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:09.480
<v Speaker 2>now are six three sixty four. There's a few like

548
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Tyreek Hillhudot who aren't that that size. Basketball, you gotta

549
00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:17.160
<v Speaker 2>be big. But in baseball, you know, Louis t On

550
00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:20.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean you saw him the other day. He was

551
00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:22.920
<v Speaker 2>five ten, maybe five to eleven on a good day.

552
00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:27.400
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, he'll never be a delivery like his again.

553
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:31.960
<v Speaker 2>No question, no question. Hey, thanks Bob, appreciate you call.

554
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:33.240
<v Speaker 2>It's good memory. Thank you much.

555
00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:35.079
<v Speaker 9>Have a good way, all right.

556
00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:39.640
<v Speaker 2>I got some open lines here. We need a couple

557
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:41.920
<v Speaker 2>more Louis Tian stories to finish the hour out. I'll

558
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:43.640
<v Speaker 2>talk about Louis t On for the rest of the

559
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:46.799
<v Speaker 2>hour if you want, but we'll change topics on the

560
00:31:46.839 --> 00:31:50.880
<v Speaker 2>other side of the eleven o'clock news. But if you

561
00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:54.440
<v Speaker 2>have a memory of Louis, either on the field or

562
00:31:54.440 --> 00:31:56.200
<v Speaker 2>off the field, I'd love to have you share it.

563
00:31:56.319 --> 00:32:00.240
<v Speaker 2>Six one seven, two five four. We got low open

564
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:02.079
<v Speaker 2>lines there, and I got one open at six one

565
00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:08.240
<v Speaker 2>seven nine. The word yesterday came suddenly and swiftly, and

566
00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Louis was gone. And again he meant so much to

567
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:16.319
<v Speaker 2>so many people. Uh, not only during his time here,

568
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:21.200
<v Speaker 2>but in his post career. He lived in Milton and

569
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:25.759
<v Speaker 2>just he was part of he was part of Boston.

570
00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:26.480
<v Speaker 4>For a.

571
00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:32.319
<v Speaker 2>Young guy that was born into real poverty in Cuba,

572
00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:36.279
<v Speaker 2>certainly made a name for himself and he should be

573
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:38.160
<v Speaker 2>in the Hall of fame. And he should have been

574
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:41.000
<v Speaker 2>in the Hall of fame. Before we talked with Alberto

575
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:46.519
<v Speaker 2>Vassalo earlier tonight with El Mundo, he said that Louis

576
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:47.920
<v Speaker 2>had said to him, if they put me in the

577
00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:49.839
<v Speaker 2>Hall of Fame after I die. I don't want anyone

578
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:53.079
<v Speaker 2>to go to the ceremony. Can you imagine what his

579
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:56.039
<v Speaker 2>speech would have been like at the Hall of Fame

580
00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:57.599
<v Speaker 2>if the Hall of Fame had been smart enough to

581
00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:00.720
<v Speaker 2>induct him while he was alive, it would have been memorable.

582
00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:04.559
<v Speaker 2>Give us a call your memory of Louis Tiant, either

583
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:06.200
<v Speaker 2>as a player or as someone who you had the

584
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:08.160
<v Speaker 2>good fortune to meet. My name's Dan Ray. This is

585
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:10.720
<v Speaker 2>the Night Side. We're coming right back right after these messages.

586
00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray line from the Window World,

587
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Night six Studios on w b Z the news radio.

588
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.079
<v Speaker 2>All right, we're gonna I'd like to finish out with

589
00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:25.480
<v Speaker 2>a couple of more Louis Tian stories. Six one seven, four,

590
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:28.160
<v Speaker 2>ten thirty, triple eight nine two nine, ten thirty or

591
00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:32.200
<v Speaker 2>six one, seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. Boston lost

592
00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:38.799
<v Speaker 2>a great champion, a living legend who passed yesterday. Louis Tian.

593
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:42.039
<v Speaker 2>Let me go to Charles Charlie and Bill Ricket. Charlie,

594
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:44.400
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you calling in. What's your Louis Tian story

595
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:45.200
<v Speaker 2>you'd like to share?

596
00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:48.799
<v Speaker 7>Hi, jid HOWI I'm a first time caller by the way.

597
00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:51.799
<v Speaker 2>Well all right, and give you a lot of applause. Absolutely,

598
00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:54.519
<v Speaker 2>welcome on in. Thanks that's finally got you to the

599
00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:56.640
<v Speaker 2>telephone to talk about Louis tiant I love that.

600
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:00.440
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I watched the coops. Tom would Com just kind

601
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:03.039
<v Speaker 7>of emaguated in the Hall of Fame and he was

602
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:06.119
<v Speaker 7>just getting off the golf course. Louis was and uh

603
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:07.720
<v Speaker 7>I asked him what he was doing there, and he says,

604
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:08.840
<v Speaker 7>I'm here for Counton Fisk.

605
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:09.119
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

606
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:11.599
<v Speaker 7>You know, when I said, well, Louis, you're going to

607
00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:13.199
<v Speaker 7>be the next one to go in the Hall of Fame,

608
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:16.280
<v Speaker 7>he goes, oh jeesez. He says, they'll probably do it

609
00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:19.440
<v Speaker 7>when I die. He said, I'm in the Redstarts Hall

610
00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:21.360
<v Speaker 7>of Fame. But you know I got the same number

611
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:23.119
<v Speaker 7>when this Catfish Hunter he says, I don't know why

612
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:26.760
<v Speaker 7>I'm right in there now, you know. And uh, we

613
00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:29.519
<v Speaker 7>were just coming back and forth. Of course he was

614
00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:32.000
<v Speaker 7>spoken the All Road cigar and.

615
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:37.639
<v Speaker 2>You're right, I mean his statistics the Globe Sports writers

616
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:40.480
<v Speaker 2>made it very evident today. Did you look at you know,

617
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Catfish Hunter, who obviously pitched it a little bit in

618
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:46.079
<v Speaker 2>New York a little more than Louis did in New York.

619
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:52.159
<v Speaker 2>Hunter died very early of luke gat disease, so that

620
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:55.400
<v Speaker 2>might have been an emotional factor. Don Drysdale, whose numbers

621
00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:57.000
<v Speaker 2>it was, a great pitcher, should be in the Hall

622
00:34:57.039 --> 00:34:59.679
<v Speaker 2>of Fame. I'm not saying that those guys should not

623
00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:03.039
<v Speaker 2>be in, but I think Louis should be in as well,

624
00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:06.840
<v Speaker 2>no question, no ifs in butts about it. Ye.

625
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:09.639
<v Speaker 7>Ken Coleman was there also. Ken Coleman said, if I'm

626
00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:13.159
<v Speaker 7>on that beference committee, I'll vote for him. But uh,

627
00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:15.039
<v Speaker 7>I don't know what happened, but.

628
00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:21.280
<v Speaker 2>I hope I missed who you said you? Who'd you

629
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:23.000
<v Speaker 2>say said they would have voted for him?

630
00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:26.039
<v Speaker 7>Ken Coleman. He used to broadcast for the Red Sox.

631
00:35:26.159 --> 00:35:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh sure, Ken Coleman. Absolutely, Well, his the guy that

632
00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:32.039
<v Speaker 2>he brought to Boston, Joe kistig Leone is now in

633
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:34.039
<v Speaker 2>the broadcasters wing of the Hall of Fame. We've had

634
00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:35.519
<v Speaker 2>Joe on the show last week.

635
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:37.760
<v Speaker 7>That he deserves it.

636
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh. Absolutely, He's done a great job over the years,

637
00:35:41.400 --> 00:35:45.519
<v Speaker 2>There's no no question about that. Well, Charlie, that's that's

638
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:48.400
<v Speaker 2>a great story and and it's a memory that you

639
00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:52.760
<v Speaker 2>should hold forever. Obviously, Louis was Carlton Fisk was Louis

640
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:56.760
<v Speaker 2>battery mate in that world series. So you know Carlton

641
00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:59.400
<v Speaker 2>was soon heading heading off to the Chicago White Sox.

642
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:03.599
<v Speaker 2>But but that was a magical year, magical October that

643
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:06.800
<v Speaker 2>year in nineteen seventy five, we missed that.

644
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:09.599
<v Speaker 7>He was probably probably the best that you have, one

645
00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:10.880
<v Speaker 7>of the best pictures he ever caught.

646
00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:15.559
<v Speaker 2>So I think there's no question about that, no question

647
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:18.440
<v Speaker 2>about that. Charlie, thanks so much for the call. I appreciate.

648
00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Cooperstown is a special place, isn't it.

649
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:22.079
<v Speaker 7>It sure is?

650
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:26.719
<v Speaker 2>I thanks John. All right, let me go to Rick

651
00:36:26.760 --> 00:36:28.599
<v Speaker 2>and Bill rick We go from Charlie and Bill Ricket.

652
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:31.679
<v Speaker 2>We're hot and Bill Rickett tonight, Rick next time. That's right.

653
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:32.400
<v Speaker 3>How are you? Then?

654
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:35.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great. What's your Louis Tian story?

655
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:35.559
<v Speaker 7>Wow?

656
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:38.159
<v Speaker 3>I don't really have a story. Charlie is as much

657
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:40.320
<v Speaker 3>better than mine. But I just remember if I was

658
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:42.719
<v Speaker 3>born in nineteen sixty nine, but I just remember the

659
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:45.960
<v Speaker 3>name and watching it on TV in the seventies. I

660
00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:48.199
<v Speaker 3>had a baseball card of him because I used to

661
00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:51.440
<v Speaker 3>collect cards, and I don't know, I have no idea

662
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:53.480
<v Speaker 3>when my cards are located but when I clean my

663
00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:57.079
<v Speaker 3>house out, I'll probably come across them. I know, I

664
00:36:57.119 --> 00:36:57.960
<v Speaker 3>throw them out, they.

665
00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:00.000
<v Speaker 2>May they may have some value. Don't throw them?

666
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:03.000
<v Speaker 3>Well no, wait, yeah you can. I don't throw anything

667
00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:03.840
<v Speaker 3>of you can.

668
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:04.400
<v Speaker 9>No.

669
00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:08.079
<v Speaker 3>Of course, baseball cards have value, the most value in

670
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:11.880
<v Speaker 3>America when it comes to America. That America's past Simon's baseball.

671
00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:15.400
<v Speaker 3>So it's the biggest sport and cards hold the most value.

672
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:17.159
<v Speaker 3>But I don't know the conditioner, but I know I

673
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:19.679
<v Speaker 3>had a card of them. And I also remember my

674
00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:23.840
<v Speaker 3>father was a clock collector, and he got a clock

675
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:26.480
<v Speaker 3>from this guy named Elmer Tennis. He was out of waymouth.

676
00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:33.119
<v Speaker 3>Elmer was accused of murdering I think two wives, so

677
00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:39.119
<v Speaker 3>the first one, and then I know, well it's okay.

678
00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:43.079
<v Speaker 3>He was a great clockmaker. You can look him up.

679
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:44.880
<v Speaker 2>No, I believe in the story.

680
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:47.760
<v Speaker 3>But I got to tell you what what happened was.

681
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:50.400
<v Speaker 3>I looked in the clock for information about this but

682
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:53.199
<v Speaker 3>number twenty two because his stuff clock's whole value was

683
00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:56.719
<v Speaker 3>an excellent clockmaker. And I saw that my father wrapped

684
00:37:56.760 --> 00:38:03.440
<v Speaker 3>something and a story, I mean in a globe or

685
00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:05.480
<v Speaker 3>a herald might have been the globe my parents used

686
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:07.320
<v Speaker 3>to get the Herald, but might have been a Globe,

687
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:09.840
<v Speaker 3>and it was nineteen seventy five, and Louis Tian was

688
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:13.280
<v Speaker 3>on the cover and they had won a game. They

689
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:15.159
<v Speaker 3>had won some sort of game. It might have been

690
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:16.679
<v Speaker 3>the World, So I don't know. I think it was

691
00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:20.800
<v Speaker 3>October of seventy five, and I's still in my brother

692
00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:23.880
<v Speaker 3>Greg's house. He's got the clock many other ones too,

693
00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:26.599
<v Speaker 3>But I put it back and it was wrapped in

694
00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:30.119
<v Speaker 3>a newspaper where Louis Tian was jumping up and down

695
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:32.119
<v Speaker 3>or something. I don remember that.

696
00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:36.599
<v Speaker 2>I would have been nineteen seventy five, Rick, I don't

697
00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:39.199
<v Speaker 2>remember the Elma story. But let's I don't know if

698
00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:42.079
<v Speaker 2>he's passed on, but we'll remember it was a clockmaker,

699
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:45.480
<v Speaker 2>not as someone who who killed two of his wives.

700
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:49.639
<v Speaker 3>Well you can look at Elbert sixteen and then yes

701
00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:54.519
<v Speaker 3>he was not away man and unbelievable clockmaker. But anyway,

702
00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:56.280
<v Speaker 3>that's just the side story. But that's where I saw

703
00:38:56.360 --> 00:39:00.159
<v Speaker 3>Louis Tian the last on a nice fresh piece of

704
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:05.599
<v Speaker 3>Boston Globe, ar Herald and picture and it was wrapped newspaper,

705
00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:06.440
<v Speaker 3>and all.

706
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Right, you got it. All that, hich I appreciate. I

707
00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:14.239
<v Speaker 2>appreciate the story a good night much Okay, didn't need

708
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:17.039
<v Speaker 2>to know about the background of the clockmaker, but that's okay.

709
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:19.360
<v Speaker 2>The whole story is there. You got it, the whole story,

710
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:22.039
<v Speaker 2>the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. We'll be

711
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:25.119
<v Speaker 2>back right after the eleven o'clock news and I'm going

712
00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:29.360
<v Speaker 2>to uh cover a story that deals with a newscast

713
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:33.239
<v Speaker 2>that I very really watch, the CBS Morning News. I

714
00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:34.119
<v Speaker 2>will explain