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<v Speaker 1>Little Monday night football on the radio station tonight. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>forget we are your home of the NFL in this market.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got the Niners and the Lions. Right after we

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<v Speaker 1>say good night, Let's do some football though on a

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<v Speaker 1>Monday with one of our favorites to start the four

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock Gower, Austin Gale back on the Drive on a Monday, Austin,

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<v Speaker 1>how you doing, man? To a great I'm well, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate the time. So I think I've told you

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<v Speaker 1>this before. I certainly have talked to my producer about it.

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<v Speaker 1>As a long suffering New York Jet fan, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that we had found the solution with Sam Darnold. You

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<v Speaker 1>thought I was gonna Saron Rodgers. I know you did,

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<v Speaker 1>But I thought we had sound found the solution with

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Darnald back in the day. So look, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to take a victory lap because nobody saw this coming.

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<v Speaker 1>This is obviously a good problem for the Vikings. But

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<v Speaker 1>what sort of questions has Sam Darnald answered with his

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<v Speaker 1>performance this year?

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<v Speaker 2>And what do you think is next for him and

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<v Speaker 2>the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 3>I love how you framed, man. I think that's exactly

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<v Speaker 3>how we should be Sam Donald this offseason. What questions

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<v Speaker 3>has he answered? Not? What could he answer? Could he

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<v Speaker 3>also do similar things in Las Vegas? Oh, they also

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<v Speaker 3>play in at Dome. Oh they have rock towers. Like

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<v Speaker 3>he could answer those questions. But what we know is

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<v Speaker 3>he works in Minnesota. He works with Justin Jefferson, He

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<v Speaker 3>works with TJ. Hockinson and Jordan Addison and Kevin O'Connell

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<v Speaker 3>and that offensive line. I think Minnesota knows they can

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<v Speaker 3>have a deep, playoff competitive team with Sam Donald at

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<v Speaker 3>the helm. It is a good problem to have to

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<v Speaker 3>have J. J. McCarthy, who is going to be coming

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<v Speaker 3>off with significant knee injury, in a position to sit

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<v Speaker 3>again behind Sam Donald. Yes, that would require them to

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<v Speaker 3>pay Sam Donald's some money. But a fourteen and two season,

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<v Speaker 3>potentially a fifteen and two season winning the North, there's

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<v Speaker 3>something you know it's not at and like, if he

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't have success in the playoffs, those questions become harder

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<v Speaker 3>to answer because but if he wins one game even too, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I think the answer becomes obvious. I think they have

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<v Speaker 3>to bring him back. At worst, they have to tag

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<v Speaker 3>him and then consider trading him. But I just don't

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<v Speaker 3>see an outcome unless they get blown out in the

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<v Speaker 3>playoffs where where that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you surprised at how effective he's been because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a frame of reference for whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>because we're out here in the former Pac twelve foot print,

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<v Speaker 1>so we saw Sam up close playing the utes, and

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I always thought that I thought my

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<v Speaker 1>Jets had finally found a quarterback. But are you taking

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<v Speaker 1>back at what he's done or did you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>see the potential on him all your or all along

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<v Speaker 1>in his career.

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<v Speaker 3>I think with Sam Donald is said everyone has seen

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<v Speaker 3>the potential, every team that has signed him, every fan

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<v Speaker 3>that wanted him coming out of USC, every team. So

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<v Speaker 3>everyone that's watched Sam Donald play has seen the potential,

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<v Speaker 3>has seen the flashes. It's been whether or not he

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<v Speaker 3>could get over the hump and be consistent. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think a lot of the blame was put on him,

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<v Speaker 3>and a lot of the blame was put on the franchises.

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<v Speaker 3>He kind of like muddied his way through. But they're

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<v Speaker 3>everyone in the back of their mind going into the season,

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<v Speaker 3>and they would be lying if they didn't say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe Sam Donald should have success here. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's what we're learning about, not just Sam Donald, Baker Mayfield,

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<v Speaker 3>Gino Smith, Like like there's this reclamation project thing happening

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<v Speaker 3>in the league now, where if you have a good

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<v Speaker 3>offensive play caller and you have some weapons you can

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<v Speaker 3>go get you know, a Baker Mayfield and Gino Smith,

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<v Speaker 3>the Sam Donald, some of these other guys that can

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<v Speaker 3>come in and be competitive, Russell Wilson and Pittsburgh. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>if you have a good offense and you have good

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<v Speaker 3>with experience that can come in and make play.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think Sam will be in consideration at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Friend VP? Or is that Lamar and Josh Allen those

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<v Speaker 2>two or maybe it's only Josh. What are your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think it's two horse race. I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>where betting markets have it right now. It's probably gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be Josh. That's where betting markets are leaning. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>a two horse race between Josh and Lamar. I think

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<v Speaker 3>statistically you'd lean Lamar, but Josh better, you know, better

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<v Speaker 3>record on a hard team. They lost Stefan Biggs and

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<v Speaker 3>the ravensdad a, Derrick Henry. I feel like kind of like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, what else do you need? I think Josh

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<v Speaker 3>is more important to the Bills than Lamar is the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not by a wide margin. And Lamar Jackson has

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<v Speaker 3>had a ton of success. Hello, he has two MVPs,

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<v Speaker 3>but he almost can't kind of kind of give the

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<v Speaker 3>Career Achievement Award to Josh Allen and you know, as

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<v Speaker 3>a tiebreaker, and that he hasn't won one day. He's

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<v Speaker 3>been one of the league best players of the last

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<v Speaker 3>few years. I think it's okay to overlook that maybe

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<v Speaker 3>Lamara had more statistical success than Josh Allen in this case,

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<v Speaker 3>especially with the mark coming off with MVP. That's how

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<v Speaker 3>I think voters are going to feel as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I will ask you selfishly what you think comes next

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<v Speaker 1>with the New York Jets. Look, I gave up hope

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<v Speaker 1>on this team long ago, but I'm not one to

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<v Speaker 1>jump ship.

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<v Speaker 2>I will be a Jet fan for life. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was never on board with the Aaron thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand why you do it, but all of the hype,

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<v Speaker 1>all the hope, it never landed with me.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been out on him for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like he's on authentic and outside of

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<v Speaker 1>all the weird you know what, off the field, he

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<v Speaker 1>just is not near the quarterback he once was, which

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<v Speaker 1>is more important to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't give a rip. Go do ayahuasca, Go talk

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<v Speaker 2>to a caterpillar.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. Just show up on Sunday and play ball.

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel like they need to move on.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how they do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's next as far as the coach, the quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>and everything else with the Jets.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's tough, right. I think it's a mess,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's a hard one to even think about how

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<v Speaker 3>you clean it up. I know that some have said

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<v Speaker 3>that maybe they run it back and you see if

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<v Speaker 3>you could get this work again, because there aren't maybe

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of other options. I know they're currently slotted

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<v Speaker 3>to maybe draft around like sixth or seventh to eight

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<v Speaker 3>depends obviously how Week eighteen ends up, but like probably

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna have an opportunity at Shitur Sanders or Cam Warre.

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<v Speaker 3>You cannot bring Sam Darnold back, even in a tag

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<v Speaker 3>and trade in the fairy tale situation where Minnesota lets

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<v Speaker 3>them go. There isn't really a lot of other reason

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<v Speaker 3>talent you're gonna go get kirk Cousins. I've seen that

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<v Speaker 3>name floating round. You think Jets fans are gonna get

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<v Speaker 3>up for Kirk Cousins after the year they have with

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<v Speaker 3>Aaron Rodgers. I think Jeffs fans might be burning jerseys.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to do something that inspires the confidence in

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<v Speaker 3>the fan base. Do something, do their testing, Talk to

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<v Speaker 3>the fans like, obviously they don't know what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't know what they're doing. It's not a bad

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<v Speaker 3>idea to talk to maybe one hundred Jet fans or

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred Jet fans like where are we at here?

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<v Speaker 3>Like they're in a bad plate. I think they more

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<v Speaker 3>than they need wins, they need buying from from the

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<v Speaker 3>fan base. I mean, there's a lot of I think,

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<v Speaker 3>a disappointment in the direction that they've been and a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of question marks obviously very fairly on where they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to go.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. I've been asking all my NFL guests this

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<v Speaker 1>over the past few weeks because I come from a

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<v Speaker 1>split family where me and one of my brothers we

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<v Speaker 1>pull for the Jets, and I have two other brothers

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<v Speaker 1>that love the Giants, and we've been debating, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>asking this for real Austin. If you combine the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>and the Giants roster, they does that roster make the playoffs?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm dead serious, Oh man, I don't know who's playing

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback right, Aaron Rodgers, It's tough. It's tough. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that I'd like to say yes. I'd like to say

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<v Speaker 3>yes in any situation, even the two worst teams in

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<v Speaker 3>the league, which I think maybe we do have here

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<v Speaker 3>with the Jets and the Giants that combining their rosters

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<v Speaker 3>it would be a playoff competitive team. But I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know it would be tough. I think it would be tough.

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<v Speaker 3>I think depends on who's healthy. I do think that

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<v Speaker 3>the Jets and the Giants have talent. It's the coaching

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<v Speaker 3>staff and obviously the quarterback that they haven't been able

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you think is the best coaching option on

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<v Speaker 1>the FRA And maybe there's something that opens up between

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<v Speaker 1>now and the offseason. But if you're Woody Johnson, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're the Jets, who do you think is the number

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<v Speaker 1>one potential possibility to coach them next year?

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<v Speaker 3>I think the number one possibility on everyone's list is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be Ben Johnson, the Lions offensive coordinator who

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<v Speaker 3>not just has you know solved Jared Goff another one

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<v Speaker 3>of those reclamation projects, but also turned the Detroit Lions

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<v Speaker 3>offense into one of the best offenses in the league.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously they've hit on a lot of picks as well,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think that offense unlock Sing's for golf and

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<v Speaker 3>those other players that other play callers aren't Caleb b

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<v Speaker 3>Love and with where the league is going points points points,

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's going to be top of everyone's listen

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<v Speaker 3>more about does he wants to go to this place?

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<v Speaker 3>You have to like you know him going back to

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<v Speaker 3>Detroit two seasons when he's had hey coaching interviews. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's something to think about if you go back

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<v Speaker 3>to Detroit, does he wants to stay in offense? Courtier

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<v Speaker 3>He'll be, He'll be an interesting name. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>the number two list is Mike Rabel. He has to

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<v Speaker 3>return you to the NFL sideline. I think this this season,

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<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of teams are gonna look for

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<v Speaker 3>Able to come in, build up his own staff again,

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<v Speaker 3>build up everything, and like for an owner that wants

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<v Speaker 3>to just hand the keys off again to someone who

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<v Speaker 3>wants the autonomy that I think Mike Brabil wants. I

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<v Speaker 3>think they're going to jump at that opportunity too, because

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<v Speaker 3>people forget how well coached those Titans teams were. They

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<v Speaker 3>just traded away Ajy Brown couldn't figure out quarterback and

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<v Speaker 3>there he went. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you about one of the teams

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<v Speaker 1>that we have on the station tonight, because in our market,

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting. Some of it's based off proximity, some of

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<v Speaker 1>it's based off of college players that went to play elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a lot of forty nine er fans in

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<v Speaker 2>this market. I think a lot of that Steve Young

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<v Speaker 2>back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course we have a college football team here

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<v Speaker 1>with the University of Utah that has been so crestfallen

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<v Speaker 1>and just hit with injuries on an intense level over

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to explain.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything other than health that has caused this

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<v Speaker 1>Niner season to go south? I mean, we talked to

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<v Speaker 3>weeks later he's in Germany, Like what was going on?

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<v Speaker 3>They're hiding secrets. Jordan Mason in that Week one game

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<v Speaker 3>I think their heads is just elsewhere coming off that

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<v Speaker 3>like Kret Borders had said, he was playing on a

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<v Speaker 3>it's had some improvements. But Devondre Campbell, veteran linebacker, literally

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<v Speaker 3>right team. They need to get healthy, obviously, so does

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<v Speaker 3>every team in the NFL. What they need, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>What stands out to you Austin year one for the

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't had the opportunity to talk with Jade Daniels

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<v Speaker 3>hearing from reporters who have been in those locker rooms

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<v Speaker 3>just how much the team loves Jane Daniels, how much

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<v Speaker 3>you can't take it's like this, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>the gate. I don't know if you remember those week one,

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<v Speaker 3>week two games, it's like, oh, my first read's not there.

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<v Speaker 3>And then weeks one through seven it was like a

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<v Speaker 3>Like they did the simple things well, they really flowed

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<v Speaker 3>as he's obviously got more comfortable and as obviously he's

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<v Speaker 3>on fourtune seven making like two duo Smiths like he's

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<v Speaker 3>It's allowed him to play comfortable. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 3>very impressive, not just with Jaye and Daniels. How a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of these rookie quarterbacks have been handled with some

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<v Speaker 3>of these coaching staffs. Obviously the Bears excluded what they're

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<v Speaker 3>doing with Caleb Williams. Your guest is started than mine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I do want to get there in a moment,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want to stick with the rookie quarterback theme

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously, due to proximity, we are littered with Bronco

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<v Speaker 1>last year and smoked them, But I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>I saw anything like this with Bonix coming. I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do to make make the postseason. But from a macro standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>does it feel like Denver has their quarterback in a

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<v Speaker 3>I think again, one of my big like memento tattoos,

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<v Speaker 3>the famous member he tattoos on his body so he

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<v Speaker 3>remembers what I remember. What I want to remember for

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<v Speaker 3>next year is that coaching matters, and Sean Payton's a

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<v Speaker 3>though not every season has been a winning season, he's

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<v Speaker 3>been a very accomplished coach in the league. And bo

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<v Speaker 3>Nicks with not a lot of support supporting cast talent

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<v Speaker 3>and Rossavan objectively needs help both offensively and defensively. I

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<v Speaker 3>think he has been put in a position to succeed

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<v Speaker 3>He compared Sean Payton compared bo Nicks to Patrick Mahomes

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<v Speaker 3>because there's a certain way of like handling quarterbacks, especially

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<v Speaker 3>coming out of the gates like not but look what

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<v Speaker 3>compare what the Colts have done with Anthony Richardson. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that guy that do you think that guy's confidence

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<v Speaker 3>is great? He has no idea if they like him

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<v Speaker 3>or don't. Who in up building supports them and who

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't Bo Nicks, I would imagine given just how Sean

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<v Speaker 3>Payton talked about him and just the opposite he's constructed

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<v Speaker 3>for Knicks, everything's different. The game plans are always constantly changing.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why no one knows in fantasy football if they

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<v Speaker 3>should start Courtland Sutton or Vley or the tight end

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<v Speaker 3>or whoever. Like they're always distributing the ball to the

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<v Speaker 3>new players, constantly making things different for the defense. The

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<v Speaker 3>in Denver two is very well coached. I didn think

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<v Speaker 3>going to go into this draft and we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>compare Cam war to Shader Sanders for like five months,

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<v Speaker 3>the day, it's like where are they going, who are

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<v Speaker 3>are they going to be supported? And that ultimately determined

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<v Speaker 1>You referenced Caleb Williams and I actually do want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the upcoming draft class a little bit too.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's go back there because once again, Pac twelve kid,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw him here. Utah actually had some good success

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<v Speaker 1>against Caleb Williams and that USC team. He just I

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<v Speaker 1>think set a rookie record for past attempts without a

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<v Speaker 1>an interception, and there's certainly our moments of what I

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<v Speaker 1>would say brilliance that were in college that were in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL as well. What do well, well, First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>do you agree that he has what it takes to

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<v Speaker 1>be good for a long time? And second of all,

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<v Speaker 1>what do the Bears have to do to give him

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to win consistently at this level?

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the answer, here's the honest truth that Bears fans.

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<v Speaker 3>I think some Bears fans are maybe not willing to

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<v Speaker 3>make bits. It's both the coaching staff stinks and Caleb

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<v Speaker 3>Williams isn't good enough yet. There are errors in his

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<v Speaker 3>game that he had at USC that he's carried to

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL. He's holding the ball too long, He's turning

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<v Speaker 3>every play into a superman put my cape on thing

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<v Speaker 3>like it. He needs to be more consistent. He needs

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<v Speaker 3>to deliver ball with more accuracy, more consistent, but work.

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<v Speaker 3>He can get away with alternate angles and scrambling all

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<v Speaker 3>those things because he's uber talented. But if he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be long term successful, week to week successful, he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to need one an offensive play caller worth their

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<v Speaker 3>salt and going to have to be disciplined and listen

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<v Speaker 3>and have more confidence than trust inside the offense. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't blame him for not having confident and an offensive

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<v Speaker 3>and not having confidence in a offered the cordinator. They

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't get out of the building soon or enough. He's

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<v Speaker 3>going to need an improved situation. But Bear fans would

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<v Speaker 3>be lying to themselves as they think it's just the

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<v Speaker 3>coach that's going to fix this. Caleb needs to fix

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<v Speaker 3>this game too. He could be a coach killer if

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<v Speaker 3>every single time they're blaming the coach because they see

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<v Speaker 3>these little highlights, because they think he can Darnold, they

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<v Speaker 3>It might get to a point where there's so much

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<v Speaker 3>frustration in the buildings. He's not my guy. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>draft him that he could be. In the situation that

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<v Speaker 3>the Bears have been improved very long time for one,

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<v Speaker 3>GM drafts a guy and it doesn't really work out

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<v Speaker 3>with the coaching stamps, so they fire the coaching staffs

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<v Speaker 3>and they bring it a new GM like they need stability.

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<v Speaker 3>He needs Caleb Williams and Every player in this league

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<v Speaker 3>needs stability, especially at the quarterback position.

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<v Speaker 1>I certainly did not plan on making this the former

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<v Speaker 1>Pac twelve quarterback interview. And maybe it's still sad that

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<v Speaker 1>we're no longer a PAC twelve market because of the

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<v Speaker 1>leadership of that conference, essentially blowing up a really special thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But year one, Jim Harbaugh chargers Herbert go, what are

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<v Speaker 3>The culture each strategy for breakfast? You know, everyone was

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<v Speaker 3>questioning like, well, who they get fun the ball to?

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<v Speaker 3>everage justin her ru enough. You gotta have an high

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<v Speaker 3>average hip to target. But has anyone falls Jim Harbo's

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<v Speaker 3>career that Hede wins football games. He looks at the roster,

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<v Speaker 3>he understands the strength, he knows the kind of brand

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<v Speaker 3>of football he wants his team to play. They set

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<v Speaker 3>a standard and they hit it. They set a standard

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<v Speaker 3>and they hit it. Now now when people don't agree

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<v Speaker 3>to that standard. Who everyone knows about the arguments with

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<v Speaker 3>Trent baal Key. You know they maybe go different ways,

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<v Speaker 3>but he has proven everywhere he's gone he wins by

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<v Speaker 3>setting a standard, not just strategically philosophically but also culturally,

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<v Speaker 3>and they've drafted good players. They've set their standard. And

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<v Speaker 3>into the season, some people thought they were gonna be good.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people thought they were gonna growing paints. They're going

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<v Speaker 3>to improve every week, and they have through injuries, through

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<v Speaker 3>question marks, and through mcconkey's growing paints through his injuries,

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<v Speaker 3>like they but they improved every single week. And when

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<v Speaker 3>you win football games, and that culture is what it is,

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<v Speaker 3>It's the bell Check of everything, it's the Brable of everything,

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<v Speaker 3>he wants to play, and you win football games, everybody

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<v Speaker 3>buys it. And obviously he's proven that in your one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good answer for me to segree to the

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<v Speaker 1>as a Super Bowl contender. What's best case for Philly

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<v Speaker 1>because I think what you just outlined about the culture

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<v Speaker 1>is something that people don't love as far as the

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<v Speaker 1>way the season is kind of manifested.

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<v Speaker 3>They're a hard team to nail. For me, they win

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<v Speaker 3>football games. They have a ton of talent, cut talent

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<v Speaker 3>along the offensive line. Jal It Hurts his talented take

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<v Speaker 3>one Barkley Holy, I mean he's talented, a J. Brown

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<v Speaker 3>like defensively, Cooper de Jean, you know Queenia and Mitchell.

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<v Speaker 3>They find the Georgia Boys like they know how to

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<v Speaker 3>find talent. They've had a talent in this roster. It's

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<v Speaker 3>hard to lose games when you have some of some

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<v Speaker 3>of the key key players they have with Townsey Smith

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't even mentioned Dallas Carter. I mean, they have a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of talent, and I think the coaching staff has

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<v Speaker 3>in a lot of ways maximized that. I think people

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<v Speaker 3>how many games that they've won, a lot of the

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<v Speaker 3>postseason and success that they've had. Obviously they haven't been

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<v Speaker 3>able to win the big one, but like that that's

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<v Speaker 3>the point, right. I think Sirianni starts to becoming a

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<v Speaker 3>very tough media landscape. More of a distraction than something

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<v Speaker 3>wholesale additive when every other media outlet's covering the next

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<v Speaker 3>best play caller, Andy Reid, Shanahan, the flur Ben Johnson, like,

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<v Speaker 3>it gets harder and harder when you feel like it's

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<v Speaker 3>hard to pull holes in the team. It's hard to

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<v Speaker 3>pull holes in the Eagles. They're talented. You have to

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<v Speaker 3>look at the guy that maybe you feel like isn't

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<v Speaker 3>doing anything and isn't isn't adding anything. He isn't the

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<v Speaker 3>defensive coordator, he isn't the opposive play caller, he isn't

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<v Speaker 3>even maybe the tough security guy Big Dom maybe does more.

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows, but I don't know. There's obviously a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of folky storylines around it. At the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 3>they're finding ways to win football games. It's just hard

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<v Speaker 3>right now, especially on the upside looking game, to know

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<v Speaker 3>how much Sirianni is helping this team versus hurting it.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the most talked about teams and hotly debated

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<v Speaker 1>topics right now is what's happening in Cincinnati. Because if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a Bengals fan, you have a generational talent under center,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just love watching Burrow play.

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<v Speaker 2>I always have.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure I've ever seen a college offense like

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<v Speaker 1>they had at LSU a senior year, And there's still

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<v Speaker 1>a small sliver of hope for them. They need a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch to go their way, including they have to beat

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<v Speaker 1>the Steelers next week, and then Colts and the Dolphins

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<v Speaker 1>lose one of their final two games, need the Broncos

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<v Speaker 1>to lose to the Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's there's still a sliver of hope.

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<v Speaker 1>But if they don't make it in or quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>even if they do, what's fair to say about the

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<v Speaker 1>way I perceive Cincinnati has failed a generational talent under center.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think, you know, parts of me wants to

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<v Speaker 3>blame Zach Taylor just given I don't. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's created an offense that works for Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Burrow and Jamar Chase and t Higgins, and when all

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<v Speaker 3>the guys are healthy, this thing works, but it also

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't feel very fit to handle adversity. I think when

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<v Speaker 3>when te Higgins is healthy, it feels like it's humming.

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<v Speaker 3>When he's not, things look a lot harder for them.

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<v Speaker 3>It's why they lose games early in the season. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think they solve problems. Well, they don't solve problems

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<v Speaker 3>fast enough. I mean, how do you lose this many games,

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<v Speaker 3>even as bad as your defense has been, How do

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<v Speaker 3>you lose this many games of this kind of talent offensively?

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<v Speaker 3>And people are gonna say, oh, Louisnarumo, you have to

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<v Speaker 3>fire the defensive coordinator. You've got to fire Louyennarumo. Why

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't you fire lul Arumo? Two years ago every pundit

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<v Speaker 3>in this league was talking about how he's maybe the

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<v Speaker 3>only reason they went to the Super Bowl Like that.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, I feel like how we flip flop on

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<v Speaker 3>our opinions of coaches is just too quick. For how

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<v Speaker 3>long they're in this league, how much people said, opinion change,

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<v Speaker 3>how much this, how much the NFL changes every single

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<v Speaker 3>year with all the different rule changes. Like I do

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<v Speaker 3>think that at a certain point, the common denominator and

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<v Speaker 3>why this team has starts, Why this team constantly slits

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<v Speaker 3>under expectations, they play down to their competition. It always

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<v Speaker 3>starts at the top. And Cincinnati is the franchise is

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<v Speaker 3>it very much avoids firing their coaches. They've had a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of long tended coaches. But I think it's where

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<v Speaker 3>the league is now. Like, if you don't maximize this burrow,

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<v Speaker 3>this burrow, Chase Higgins's tandem and win some Super Bowls,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of Angles fans are going to be disappointed

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<v Speaker 3>in Zach Taylor very soon.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Austin, before I said, you lose, no team

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<v Speaker 1>in NFL history has won three straight Super Bowls?

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<v Speaker 2>Does that end this year? And if not? Who gets

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<v Speaker 2>in their way?

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<v Speaker 3>Say that again? I missed the team, so I was just.

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<v Speaker 1>Asking no team has won three straight. Obviously the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>have a chance. So do the Chiefs get it done?

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<v Speaker 2>And if not? Who gets in their way?

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<v Speaker 3>It's so tough. I think Baltimore is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>very hard to play this this this January. I think

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<v Speaker 3>I think Derrick Henry looks like a problem, a very

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<v Speaker 3>very hard problem to stop and solve for as we

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<v Speaker 3>saw the league, every linebacker is getting lighter, every defensive

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<v Speaker 3>lineman's getting faster, every corner is getting faster, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think a lot of what there is some overcrash I

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<v Speaker 3>think you're seeing here Derrick Henry, This big bully boy

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<v Speaker 3>Ravens offensive line very difficult to stop in cold weather,

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<v Speaker 3>in these games where you play a lot of teams

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<v Speaker 3>trying to throw the ball on you. The Ravens feel

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<v Speaker 3>very fearsome. I think Buffalo's too maybe roller Coastery to

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<v Speaker 3>buy them, even with eleven second stuff, you know, in

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<v Speaker 3>Kansas City or wherever. I think Baltimore is that team

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<v Speaker 3>that I think could knock them off. But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>My money's on Chiefs Man. There's a lot of ways

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<v Speaker 3>to make a dollar. I don't need to make one

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<v Speaker 3>vetting against the home Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you there, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate the time today, have a great new year, enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>the games. We'll chat soon, all right. Sounds good to soon,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Austin Gale, our buddy from the Ringer, appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>his top
