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Speaker 1: So usually when we think about science, we tend to

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picture this very specific, very comforting shape. It's like a

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straight line. You know, you have a question, you formulate

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a hypothesis, you gather your data, you test it, and

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then boom, you have a conclusion exactly. You classify it,

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you file it away in a nice little folder, and

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the case is closed. We absolutely love the closed case.

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Speaker 2: Oh, human nature craze it.

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Speaker 1: We do. It makes us feel like the universe is

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this tidy place where everything fits perfectly into a labeled box.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It's essentially the architectural framework of our entire reality.

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I mean, we build these massive models, right physics, biology, geology,

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and we have this fundamental expectation that the data we

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go out and gather out there in the real world

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is going to slide neatly right into those models. And

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to be fair, I mean ninety nine point nine percent

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of the time, it actually does. I've drop a pin

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right now, Gravity's going to pull it down at nine

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point eight meters per second squared. The model works, the

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motto works beautifully. And you know, if the data doesn't

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fit immediately, our first instinct is usually just to assume

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it's a measurement error.

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Speaker 1: Oh, totally, like the machine was broken exactly.

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Speaker 2: Or you know, we tweak the model slightly until the

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math finally works.

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Speaker 1: Out right, it's a completely self correcting system. But here's

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the question that honestly keeps me up at night. Okay,

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what happens when the data just refuses?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the terrifying cart.

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Speaker 1: Now, I want to be clear to everyone listening. I

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am not talking about a blurry photo of Bigfoot here, no,

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or some ghost story your buddy told you at a

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bar after three beers. I'm talking about hard, cold data.

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Speaker 2: The undeniable stuff.

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Speaker 1: Logs, spectral readouts, physical samples, measurements taken by highly calibrated

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instruments that absolutely positively contradict the rules of reality as

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we know that.

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Speaker 2: That is the uncomfortable edge of science right there. That's

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the place where the models don't just bend, they snap,

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entirely shatter, And that is exactly where we're going to

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be living for this entire discussion.

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Speaker 1: Well, then, welcome to thrilling threads. I am so excited

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and honestly a little bit unsettled by what we have

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on the table for you today.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a wild ride.

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Speaker 1: We are doing a deep dive into our source material

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regarding the concept of documented anomalies. I really want to

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double underline that word for you all documented.

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Speaker 2: That is the vital distinction here. We aren't discussing folklore today.

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We aren't looking at conspiracy theories scribbled on diner napkins.

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We are looking at what they call unresolved transient events

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and out of place artifacts that actually exist in the

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official record. These are events where the sensors worked perfectly,

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the scientists were completely sober, the data was logged, and

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yet the result was impossible.

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Speaker 1: The open files, the ones that never ever got that

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satisfying case closed, stamp on them. We have ten specific

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cases from our sources to get through today, ten glitches

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in the matrix, if you want to look at it that.

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Speaker 2: Way, and I think we should set the ground rules.

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Early mission today is not to solve.

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Speaker 1: Them, definitely not.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if the best scientific minds at the time

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couldn't solve them with the raw data right in front

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of them, we certainly aren't going to solve them sitting

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Speaker 1: We need a lot more than a microphone for that exactly.

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Speaker 2: Our goal for you is just to walk that fine

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line between what we know for a fact and what

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we absolutely cannot explain, to really look at the spookiness

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Speaker 1: I really love that phrase you use that in our

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Speaker 2: Raw data fits, doesn't it?

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Speaker 1: It does because usually raw data is super boring, Right,

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It's just a giant spreadsheet. But when a spreadsheet tells

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you something that straight up violates the laws of physics,

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that is a special kind of horror.

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Speaker 2: It really is.

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Speaker 1: It's not a monster under the bed. It's a contradiction

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Speaker 2: Precisely because subjective experiences like saying you saw a ghost,

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Speaker 1: Sure, you were tired, the lighting was weird.

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Speaker 2: You're stressed out. An objective contradiction when a multimillion dollar

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machine records a physical value that shouldn't exist.

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Speaker 2: You cannot. The number is just sitting there scaring at you.

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Speaker 1: So let's get right into the deep dive. We've organized

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these ten cases into a few different categories just to

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Speaker 2: Good idea.

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Speaker 1: We're going to start with the invisible world Signals frequencies,

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things that literally pass right through us every day. Let's

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Speaker 2: Auditory anomalies are incredibly fascinating because they are usually so ephemeral.

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either catch them right in that exact moment or they

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Speaker 1: But in this very first case, we actually caught it.

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just call it by its event date. October twelfth, nineteen

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eighty four. Okay, set the scene for us here.

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Speaker 2: So we are at a major radio observatory. It's nineteen

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Speaker 2: Very reliable, very robust, and this specific equipment is tuned

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to listen to the cosmos. Now, normally space is an

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absolute cacophony. It's a mess of noise exactly. You have

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planets like Jupiter. It is extremely noisy.

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Speaker 1: But the astronomers aren't just listening to the random static, right,

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Speaker 2: Right in this instance, they were specifically monitoring fourteen twenty megaherds.

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Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, stop right there, let's unpack that for

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a second. Why fourteen twenty megahurds? Right? I know from

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the sources it's important, but break down the actual science

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for the listener. Sure, why is that the magic number?

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Speaker 2: It's known as the hydrogen line. Here's the basic physics

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behind it. A neutral hydrogen atom consists of one proton

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and one electron. Okay, Occasionally that single electron flips its

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spin state, and when it does that, it releases a

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photon with a wavelength of exactly twenty one centimeters.

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Speaker 1: Which corresponds to the frequency of fourteen twenty megahertz exactly.

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Speaker 2: Now, because hydrogen is by far the most abundant element

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building block of everything, this specific frequency is considered the

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Speaker 1: The universal water cooler. I love that.

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Speaker 2: Think about it. If you were an intelligent extraterrestrial civilization

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and you were trying to just say hello to another

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civilization out there in the dark, you wouldn't just pick

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Speaker 2: Would pick the one channel. You know for a fact

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that absolutely everyone else is going to be watching.

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Speaker 1: Because everyone studies hydrogen precisely. So on October twelfth, nineteen

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cooler and normally you just hear the natural hum of

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three UTC, the background noise just drops away, just gone,

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was unbelievably clean.

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Speaker 1: Okay, define clean in an astrophysical context for us.

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Speaker 2: What I mean is that it was narrowband. Okay, natural

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Speaker 1: Explosions, right, they splatter every exactly.

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Speaker 2: But this signal was razor sharp on the dial. And

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even more disturbingly, it had absolutely no Doppler smear.

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Speaker 1: Let's really unpack that Doppler aspect, because reading through the

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source material, I think that is the smoking gun here.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it absolutely is.

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Speaker 1: Doppler is essentially the ambulance siren effect right, where the

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pitch of the sound changes as the thing moves toward

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Speaker 2: That's exactly it. But now apply that concept to a

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telescope looking at space. All right, The Earth is currently

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equator yep, and it's also actively orbiting the Sun at

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Speaker 1: Miles per hour, So we are moving very fast.

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Speaker 2: Very fast. Therefore, any radio signal coming from outside of

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the Earth should inevitably show a drift in its frequency

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Speaker 1: Signal because of the Earth's movement.

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Speaker 2: It's unavoidable geometry. It has to happen unless unless the

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source is moving with us or.

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Speaker 1: It's actively correcting for us.

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Speaker 2: Think about that. If a signal arrives with zero Doppler drift,

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it means the source is either sitting physically on the antenna,

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Speaker 1: That is, insane because that implies an active intelligence.

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Speaker 2: It implies a staggering level of technological sophistication that heavily

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suggests intent. Nature doesn't just naturally correct for the rotation

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Speaker 1: No, so we have this razor sharp signal on the

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Speaker 2: It had a very specific pulse structure. It pulsed exactly

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every one point three to three seven seconds, one point

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three to three seven precisely. And the amplitude, the sheer

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loudness of it was entirely constant.

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Speaker 1: Which is weird for space stuff.

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Speaker 2: Extremely natural pulsar's drift, They fade, they glitched constantly. This

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Speaker 1: The technicians working that night must have been absolutely freaking out.

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or even a microwave oven in the break room, like

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that famous Paraitons incident from a few years ago.

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Speaker 2: That is always the very first protocol and astronomy, you

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assume it's terrestrial interference. If they ask, is someone running

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a vacuum cleaner down the hall? Is there a military

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jet flying overhead right.

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Speaker 1: Now, did somebody open the microwave too early?

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Speaker 2: Exactly? So they immediately ran all their diagnostics. The receiver

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was perfectly calibrated, the antennae alignment was spot on. So

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then they did the gold standard test to prove it

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wasn't local triangular. They called up other observatories. They got

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Western Australia on the line, and they got Chili on

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the line.

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Speaker 1: And what did those other observatories?

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Speaker 2: See, Western Australia saw it perfectly? Chili saw it perfectly.

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Oh wow, And that completely rules out a truck driving

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by the first observatory. It rules out a localized equipment

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glitch in the hardware. This signal was undeniably coming from

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the sky, fixed solidly in the constellations.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we have a fully verified, triangulated, highly artificial

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looking signal. How long did this go on for?

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Speaker 2: Exactly? Seventeen minutes?

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Speaker 1: Seventeen minutes. See, that is such a bizarrely specific amount

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of time. It's maddening because if it was just a millisecond,

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Speaker 2: That's exactly why transient event eighty four dash one zero

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two is so incredibly frustrating to astrophysicists. Seventeen minutes isn't

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a burst, It's a session.

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Speaker 1: A session like someone logging on.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it started instantly at full power. There was absolutely

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Speaker 1: Just faded out, No instantly.

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giant switch or hung up the phone. And it has

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never been heard since. Telescopes have stared at that exact

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spot in the sky for forty years now, just waiting

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and there is nothing, just empty static.

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Speaker 1: It really behaves exactly like a machine, a machine that

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turned on, performed a very specific task for seventeen minutes,

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and then just turned itself off.

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Speaker 2: That is definitely the most parsimonious explanation we have. Yes,

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but the terrifying questions are whose machine is it? And

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where did it go?

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Speaker 1: Oh man, that sets the stage beautifully for the flip

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side of this coin, because that was a signal that

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arrived perfectly out of nowhere. Now, let's look at a

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signal that vanished perfectly right. This is case two from

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our deep dive today, the Ardent Horizon transmission the Ardent Horizon.

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This takes place in nineteen ninety seven.

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Speaker 2: August twenty first, nineteen ninety seven. So the Artent Horizon

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is a marine research vessel operating out in the middle

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of the South Pacific.

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Speaker 1: And we should note they were not hunting for aliens

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or anomalies, not at all.

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Speaker 2: They were doing extremely routine atmospheric sampling, very boring climate

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science exactly. The captain of the vessel is on a

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comms link actively uploading a stream of data to an

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overhead satellite while talking. The audio is going, the data

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stream is flowing normally, and then cut, just.

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Speaker 1: Cut now when we say cut, Usually satellite phones back

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in the nineties were pretty garbage.

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Speaker 2: Oh they were terrible.

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Speaker 1: Usually get tons of static, or you get that weird

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digital garble sound when you lose a signal correct, or.

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Speaker 2: You get a gradual fade as the satellite physically moves

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out of range over the horizon.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: But in this specific case, the audio and the data

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stream ceased misword midward, and the recording device on the ship,

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which was still running, recorded absolute silence.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean by apps silence?

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Speaker 2: Not the ambient room tone silence you usually hear on

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a blank tape, I mean digital.

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Speaker 1: Zero, a complete void of audio data. Yes, but the

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ship itself didn't lose power, right, Like the generator didn't fail.

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Speaker 2: And that is where the anomaly lies. Yes, the ship's

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main electrical bus did register a microfluctuation, a microfluctuation, a

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voltage dip that lasted for exactly one point eight seconds. Okay,

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but absolutely no breakers tripped on the ship. The lights

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didn't even flicker. The onboard computers didn't crash or reboot, So.

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Speaker 1: One point eight seconds of what exactly nobody knows.

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Speaker 2: Engineers actually spent months later trying to replicate this exact failure.

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Speaker 1: Mode because it seems like an engineering problem at first glance.

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Speaker 2: Right. They tried their hardest to create a power fold

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that would instantly cut the transmission output to absolute zero

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without simultaneously crashing the computer system or blowing a single fuse.

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Speaker 1: And could they do it?

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Speaker 2: They absolutely could not. Every single simulation and they ran

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resulted in either loud static, a total system crash, or

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digital noise.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: To get that perfectly clean cut in the transmission. You

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essentially have to momentarily remove the physical laws that allow

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the transmission to exist in the first place, while magically

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leaving the rest of the ship entirely untouched.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like the nineteen eighty four signal in this

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event are perfect inverses of each other, how so well,

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one is the sudden imposition of perfect order, the metronomic pulse,

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onto the chaos of deep space, and the other is

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the imposition of perfect void onto an organized signal.

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Speaker 2: That is a very poetic way to put it, honestly, thanks,

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but physically speaking, it really holds up to scrutiny. Both

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of these events completely defy the messiness of natural energy transfer.

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Speaker 1: Because nature drags its feet always.

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Speaker 2: Nature fades in, Nature fades out, things degrade. But these

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two events are entirely binary on or off, exist or

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don't exist.

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Speaker 1: That is genuinely spooky. Very Okay, let's transition here. We've

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talked about the invisible stuff. Let's move from the invisible

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to the visible. Let's talk about things we can actually

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see but really shouldn't be seeing.

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Speaker 2: Structural anomalies.

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Speaker 1: This is a segment two impossible geometries. Now we are

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officially leaving the airwaves, and we are going down, deep down.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: Case three takes us right back to the South Pacific,

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but this time we are underwater. The year is two

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thousand and one, right, and we are at a staggering

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depth of thirty eight hundred.

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Speaker 2: Meters, which is nearly four kilometers straight down.

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Speaker 1: To give everyone context, that is crushing depth.

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. The pressure down there is roughly fifty five

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hundred pounds per square chin.

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Speaker 1: You would be crushed instantly.

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Speaker 2: Into a pancake. And it is completely pitch black. No

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sunlight reaches that far down.

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Speaker 1: So what's happening down there?

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Speaker 2: A geological survey team is towing a side scan sonar

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sled behind a ship and they are mapping the tectonic plates.

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Speaker 1: Okay, take a second to explain the side scan sonar

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for us, because it's not just an underwater.

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Speaker 2: Camera, right, No, not at all. It uses sound ways.

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It pings the bottom of the ocean, and it measures

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the return echo like a bat exactly. It creates a

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highly detailed topographical map based on acoustic shadows. So hard

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objects reflect sound strongly and appear bright white on the monitor,

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while shadows appear very dark.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: It basically gives you a high resolution texture map of

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the seafloor.

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Speaker 1: And usually when you're four kilometers down, you just see mud, right,

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mud rocks, maybe a jagged volcanic.

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Speaker 2: Vent, random fractal noises, chaotic shades. That's nature. But on

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this specific scan they saw a rectangle. A rectangle, a perfect,

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hard edged, massive rectangle, sixty meters long and forty meters wide.

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Speaker 1: Now playing Devil's advocate here, because we have to be rigorous.

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Nature absolutely can make straight lines, sure it can. You

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look at crystals, there were perfectly straight the salt fractures

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and straight lines. Why is this specific rectangle so different?

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Speaker 2: You're right, Nature does do geometry sometimes, but nature rarely,

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if ever, does isolated geometry on this scale. Explain that,

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for instance, basalt columns usually appear in massive, clustered groups.

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Think of the Giant's.

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Speaker 1: Causeway right, tons of them together.

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Speaker 2: But this was a solitary, massive block, just sitting completely

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alone on a flat sedimentary.

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Speaker 1: Plane out of nowhere.

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Speaker 2: And the corners were exactly ninety degrees.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So they saw this impossible shape. What did they do?

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Did they send a robot down?

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Speaker 2: They did? They deployed an rov a remotely operated vehicle

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to go take a look good. And this is exactly

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where the whole natural geology argument completely falls apart. Why

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when the ROV got down there, the structure was heavily

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covered in silt.

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Speaker 1: Okay, which means it had been sitting there.

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Speaker 2: For a long time, a very long time. But the

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ROV actually used its robotic manipulator arm to gently brush

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off one of the ninety degree.

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Speaker 1: Corners, and what was underneath the mud.

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Speaker 2: Underneath the silt, the surface of the object was incredibly smooth,

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and it was a dark metallic color.

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Speaker 1: Dark metallic? Was it hard?

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Speaker 2: The ROV operator actually tried to use the manipulator arm

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to scrape a small sample off to bring to the surface.

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Makes sense, but the material was somehow harder than the

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tool steel of the scraper itself. You're cadd It didn't chip,

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it didn't even scratch.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: And when they look closely at the high risk sonar again,

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they noticed parallel linear features extending from the base of.

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Speaker 1: The structure, linear features like ribs, ribs like supports for

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a building, or maybe pipes or.

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Speaker 2: A massive antenna array a deep sea foundation. Regardless of

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what it was, it looked distinctly.

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Speaker 1: Architectural, so let me get this straight. We have a

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sixty meter long metallic building of some kind sitting at

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a depth that human beings literally couldn't even reach until

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very recently in our history, correct, and the sediment accumulation

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on top of it suggests it has been sitting down.

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Speaker 2: There for how long? For decades? Very conservatively potentially centuries.

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You have to understand, the sedimentation rate in the deep

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Pacific basin is agonizingly slow. For an object to be

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bury that deeply in silt, it takes an immense amount

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of time.

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Speaker 1: This predates our physical ability to even.

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Speaker 2: Build something like that exactly. We absolutely did not have

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the submersible technology required to construct a highly refined metallic

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facility at four thousand meters deep in the early nineteen hundred.

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Speaker 1: No way, we can barely do it right now, let

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alone one hundred years ago.

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Speaker 2: So it's just sitting there.

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Speaker 1: What's the official classification?

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Speaker 2: It's officially logged as anomalous subsea structure zero one?

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Speaker 1: And what happened? Did they go back?

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Speaker 2: Officially? The investigation was permanently halted due to a lack

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of funding. Oh my god, which honestly the most common

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depressing ending to all of these stories.

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Speaker 1: That drives me totally crazy. It is like, hey, guys,

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we literally found Atlantis, but unfortunate gas is a little

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expensive right now, so we're going to head home.

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Speaker 2: It's the sad reality of grant based scientific research, no funding,

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no answers, unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's jump from the dark bottom of the ocean

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street to the bright surface of the desert.

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Speaker 2: Contrast.

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Speaker 1: This is case four in the Deep Dive, the disappearing

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desert circle. The year is twenty thirteen, and we are

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looking at North Africa.

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Speaker 2: This specific case really bothers me simply because of the

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sheer physical scale involved.

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Speaker 1: Walk us through it.

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Speaker 2: We are looking at standard satellite imagery. It's just a

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routine earth observation sweep by an environmental satellite.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so a camera in orbit taking pictures of the.

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Speaker 2: Sand basically, yes, And they spot a circle in the desert.

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Speaker 1: And when we say circle, we don't mean a rough patch, no.

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Speaker 2: We mean a mathematically perfect circle. And it is one

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point eight kilometers in diameter.

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Speaker 1: One point eight kilometers, Yeah, that is over a mile wide.

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That is absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Huge, massively huge.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The satellite image clearly showed a dark outer ring and

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a distinctly lighter interior that contrasted heavily with the surrounding

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sand dunes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you see a giant circle in the desert,

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My first thought is some weird geography. Maybe an underground

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aquifer collapsed and made a sinkhole.

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Speaker 2: That was the immediate first thought of the gaologists too.

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But then they went back and checked the satellite archives. Okay,

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that same exact satellite had passed over that precise set

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of coordinates just forty eight hours earlier. The circle wasn't there,

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It was just normal desert dunes.

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Speaker 1: So this massive mile wide structure literally appeared within a

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two day window.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but here is the real kicker. Okay, three days later,

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the satellite made another orbital pass over the area.

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Speaker 1: Let me guess it was gone. It was completely gone, gone,

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like a sandstorm covered it.

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Speaker 2: Up, erased. The natural wind ripples in the sand were

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completely continuous across the entire area where the massive circle

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had just been.

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Speaker 1: Wait, hold on a second. If you make a one

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mile wide circle out in the sand, I don't care

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if you dig it, if you paint it, or if

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you burn it into the ground. You need serious heavy

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machinery to do that. In two days.

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Speaker 2: You need a lot of machinery, you need.

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Speaker 1: Huge trucks, you need an entire army of people.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. Human logistics always leave physical footprints. You'd absolutely see

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deep tire tracks leading from a highway to the site.

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You would see massive spoil piles where all that sand

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was violently moved around. You would see the thermal signature

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of a campsite for the hundreds of workers.

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Speaker 1: And there was none of that.

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Speaker 2: Zero, absolutely no tracks leading in or out, no seismic

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data indicating a subterranean collapse, no construction evidence of any kind.

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Speaker 1: Could it have just been a sensor glitch, like a

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bad pixel or a digital artifact in the satellites camera.

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Speaker 2: They thought of that. They went back and checked the

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thermal channel on the satellite the heat vision right, and

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the circle had a massive heat signature. It was physically

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much hotter than the surrounding sand.

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Speaker 1: Which proves it was real, exactly right.

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00:22:42,799 --> 00:22:46,319
Speaker 2: A digital software glitch doesn't hold physical heat, A visual

476
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:51,279
mirage doesn't hold heat. Something physically tangibly altered the thermal

477
00:22:51,319 --> 00:22:54,799
properties of roughly two point five square kilometers.

478
00:22:54,319 --> 00:22:56,279
Speaker 1: Of desert and then just hit undue.

479
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,319
Speaker 2: And then reset it to the default dunes seventy two

480
00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:59,200
hours later.

481
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 1: Reset to default. That is such a computer term. It

482
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,559
really feels like transient geography, like that specific tile on

483
00:23:05,599 --> 00:23:08,079
the map just failed to load properly for a few

484
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,119
days or.

485
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,799
Speaker 2: What, Or like something very very large and very flat

486
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,880
came down, landed on the sand, sat there for three days,

487
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,559
heating the ground, and then left by going straight up

488
00:23:17,599 --> 00:23:19,240
without disturbing the sand physically.

489
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,519
Speaker 1: But one point eight kilometers wide. That's that is Independence

490
00:23:23,599 --> 00:23:25,279
Day sized the mothership.

491
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,039
Speaker 2: It is a profoundly uncomfortable scale to think about.

492
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 1: That is terrifying. Okay, well, let's keep with this geometry theme.

493
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,680
We've got going case five from our sources, the North

494
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:43,119
Atlantic hexagons. Ah, yes, twenty fifteen. This takes us back underwater,

495
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,519
but this time we aren't just looking at the seafloor.

496
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 2: We are looking underground subseabit.

497
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 1: Explain what that means.

498
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 2: We are looking at data from two point three kilometers

499
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,799
inside the Earth's crust, beneath the bottom of the ocean.

500
00:23:55,839 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 1: Okay, deep deep down, and.

501
00:23:57,319 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 2: Energy consortion was out there doing a massive seismic serf

502
00:24:00,559 --> 00:24:03,799
because they were looking for untapped oil or natural gas reserves.

503
00:24:03,839 --> 00:24:06,920
Makes sense, So what they do is they send incredibly

504
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,160
powerful sound waves down into the rock and they listen

505
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,799
to the reflections that bounce back up to map the

506
00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:14,200
different geological layers.

507
00:24:14,319 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: And what did the map show?

508
00:24:16,279 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 2: They found a honeycomb.

509
00:24:17,519 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: A honeycomb inside the.

510
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 2: Rock, a vast, interconnected lattice of perfectly hexagonal cells.

511
00:24:24,279 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 1: How big were these cells?

512
00:24:25,799 --> 00:24:29,839
Speaker 2: Each individual hexagon was forty five meters wide. The walls

513
00:24:29,839 --> 00:24:33,559
separating them were five meters thick. Wow, and this contiguous

514
00:24:33,559 --> 00:24:35,640
structure extended for over eight kilometers.

515
00:24:35,759 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: Okay, Now, we just talked about straight lines in nature,

516
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,200
and nature actually really loves hexagons. Right, does you look

517
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,000
at beehives or the Giant's Causeway in Ireland. We have

518
00:24:45,079 --> 00:24:48,519
to be really skeptical here. Why isn't this giant honeycomb

519
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,359
just natural column or basalt?

520
00:24:51,519 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 2: That is an excellent question, and it's the first thing

521
00:24:53,759 --> 00:24:57,359
the geologists asked, right, columnar basalt forms what a thick

522
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,119
layer of lava cools down and physically contracts, It cracks

523
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,160
into vertical.

524
00:25:01,759 --> 00:25:03,519
Speaker 1: Columns like tall pillars.

525
00:25:03,759 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 2: Think of them like a bunch of pencils, all standing upright,

526
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,079
tightly packed in a cup. Okay, but what they found

527
00:25:09,079 --> 00:25:12,839
in the North Atlantic crust was entirely horizontal, horizontal. It

528
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,839
was a massive flat sheet of exagons, like looking down

529
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,039
at a giant bathroom tile floor, not a vertical bundle

530
00:25:20,039 --> 00:25:20,640
of columns.

531
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 1: And the regularity of the shapes it was far too perfect.

532
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,319
Speaker 2: Natural basalt fractures tend to wander a bit, they get messy,

533
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,799
they curve, they vary in size, But these lines were

534
00:25:31,839 --> 00:25:35,000
geometrically rigid across the entire eight kilometer spread.

535
00:25:35,039 --> 00:25:37,319
Speaker 1: Okay, so it looks super artificial on the scan.

536
00:25:37,519 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 2: But here is where it gets genuinely maddening. Tell me,

537
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,079
because they were looking for oil, they actually had the

538
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,720
equipment to drill down into it.

539
00:25:44,759 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: They drilled a core sample.

540
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,319
Speaker 2: They drilled a core sample straight into one of the

541
00:25:48,319 --> 00:25:53,079
hexagon walls, and what came up metal. No, the physical

542
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,160
rock that came up in the core sample was just

543
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,440
totally normal solid basalts.

544
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait, let me understand this. The physical drill

545
00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:03,519
brings up a solid, uncracked piece of rock. Yes, but

546
00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:06,680
the massive acoustic scanner says it's a honeycomb lattice.

547
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 2: That is the core. Contradiction of the anomaly. The seismic

548
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,759
data and the magnetic data they pulled clearly showed a

549
00:26:13,799 --> 00:26:18,200
lattice structure. There were massive density variations in the exact shape.

550
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 1: Of hexagons, but the rock itself.

551
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 2: The rock itself appeared completely continuous and solid to the

552
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:23,880
naked eye.

553
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: So the rock is formatted formatted.

554
00:26:27,519 --> 00:26:29,559
Speaker 2: That is the exact word I keep coming back to

555
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,079
when reviewing this data. Think about a magnetic computer hard drive.

556
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: Okay, the physical metal platter of the hard drive is

557
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,799
completely solid and smooth. Yeah, you can't see the files.

558
00:26:39,519 --> 00:26:43,519
Speaker 2: On it exactly, but the data itself is written deeply

559
00:26:43,559 --> 00:26:47,480
into the magnetic domains of the metal. This specific layer

560
00:26:47,519 --> 00:26:53,119
of rock essentially had a massive hexagonal grid written into

561
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,640
its varying density and magnetic properties.

562
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,319
Speaker 1: A deep sea storage array.

563
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:02,079
Speaker 2: Eight kilometers wide buried beneath my aisles of ocean and crust, or.

564
00:27:02,039 --> 00:27:05,799
Speaker 1: Maybe a structural reinforcement matrix for the tectonic plate itself,

565
00:27:05,839 --> 00:27:06,519
I don't even know.

566
00:27:06,759 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 2: Regardless of its purpose, it implies that the fundamental geological

567
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:15,079
formation of that specific area somehow followed a strict mathematical

568
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,880
grid that simply shouldn't exist in chaotic natural geology.

569
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: It really makes you wonder what else is hiding down there.

570
00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:22,880
We walk around and just assume the ground is just

571
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,480
dirt and dumb rocks all the way down.

572
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 2: We treat the earth like it's just a solid, boring marble.

573
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,720
But these deep scans suggest there might be massive internal structures.

574
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,400
We are only just now getting the technology to actually see.

575
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: All right, I need a breather from the giant stuff.

576
00:27:38,759 --> 00:27:43,359
Let's move to segment three. We've done signals, We've done giant,

577
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,359
impossible shapes.

578
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 2: Oh, you want something tangible exactly?

579
00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:49,839
Speaker 1: I want to hold something out of place artifacts. This

580
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,480
is where we get into the weird world of material science.

581
00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 2: This is where the rubber finally meets the road, or rather,

582
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,359
where the shovel meets the anomaly K.

583
00:27:58,319 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: Six, the nineteen nine twenty six metal fragment. Take us there.

584
00:28:02,279 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: We are in the American Southwest. A standard environmental soil

585
00:28:06,039 --> 00:28:08,880
remediation team is out there digging up contaminated dirt from

586
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,200
an old, abandoned industrial site, and they are digging deep.

587
00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:14,240
They are about four meters down in the soil.

588
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,839
Speaker 1: Now, four meters down. That depth matters a lot for

589
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,039
dating objects.

590
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 2: Right, They matters entirely based on the unbroken soil strata

591
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,839
above it. The geologists confirmed that anything found at that

592
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,640
specific depth had to have been buried there in the

593
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:27,880
early nineteen seventies.

594
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: Okay, so seventies era, they hit.

595
00:28:29,839 --> 00:28:33,039
Speaker 2: An object with the excavator. It's a heavy tounk of metal,

596
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,799
roughly the size and shape of a thick paperback book.

597
00:28:36,279 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: Okay, so they found some buried industrial tratch at an

598
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,279
industrial site. Why on Earth are we talking about it?

599
00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 2: Because standard protocol meant they had to send it to

600
00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:48,559
the lab to check for heavy metal contamination. And at

601
00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:50,759
the lab they ran it through a mass spectrometer.

602
00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:53,799
Speaker 1: Okay, for the folks listening who aren't chemists, walk us

603
00:28:53,799 --> 00:28:55,440
through exactly what that machine does.

604
00:28:55,599 --> 00:29:00,519
Speaker 2: Simply put, mass spectrometry allows a scientist to basically count

605
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,799
the specific atoms inside a physical sample. Okay, specifically, it

606
00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:06,440
looks closely at isotopes.

607
00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:07,119
Speaker 1: Isotopes.

608
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: Every single element on the periodic table comes in a

609
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,160
few different natural flavors, which we call isotopes. They're based

610
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,839
on the number of neutrons in the atoms nucleus. Got

611
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,480
it now? On our planet Earth, the natural ratio of

612
00:29:19,519 --> 00:29:24,200
these isotopes is incredibly specific and uniform. For example, if

613
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,799
you hold any natural piece of magnesium found on Earth,

614
00:29:28,359 --> 00:29:32,680
it will always be roughly seventy nine percent magnesium twenty four,

615
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,119
ten percent magnesium twenty five, and eleven percent magnesium twenty six.

616
00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: It's always that exact mix.

617
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,279
Speaker 2: Always, that is the terrestrial recipe. It is incredibly consistent

618
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,000
because the entire Earth was completely mixed together from a

619
00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:50,440
single cloud of cosmic dust billions of years ago.

620
00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:53,079
Speaker 1: So if you pick up a piece of metal anywhere

621
00:29:53,079 --> 00:29:56,920
on Earth, it absolutely should match the Earth recipe precisely,

622
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,240
and this metal fragment it did not at all.

623
00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:03,359
Speaker 2: It was an ol composed of titanium, bismuth, and magnesium, Okay,

624
00:30:03,799 --> 00:30:08,200
but the isotopic ratios of those elements were entirely wrong, wrong,

625
00:30:08,279 --> 00:30:12,319
how significantly wildly wrong. They completely failed to match the

626
00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:14,279
known terrestrial fingerprint for those elements.

627
00:30:14,319 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: What does that actually imply in chemistry terms?

628
00:30:16,599 --> 00:30:20,839
Speaker 2: It implies one of two completely reality breaking things. Either

629
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,599
the raw materials used to make this object did not

630
00:30:23,759 --> 00:30:26,599
physically originate from the solar nebula that formed the Earth,

631
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:31,480
so it's alien, or the metals were intentionally processed in

632
00:30:31,559 --> 00:30:35,480
a highly advanced nuclear reaction that fundamentally altered their atomic

633
00:30:35,519 --> 00:30:36,720
weight before they were cast.

634
00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: Both of those options are insane For a piece of

635
00:30:39,759 --> 00:30:41,119
trash from the nineteen seventies.

636
00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: And it gets weirder when you look at the physical

637
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,799
structure of the metal itself. Tell me it exhibited what

638
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,920
material scientists call engineered grain alignment.

639
00:30:50,319 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: What is that?

640
00:30:51,079 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: When we normally cast metal, Like if you melt steel

641
00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:58,160
and pour it into a mold, the microscopic crystals form

642
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,240
very randomly as the liquid.

643
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: Down right, it's just a jumbled mess.

644
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,079
Speaker 2: It looks like total chaos under an electron microscope. But

645
00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:10,200
this specific metal fragment had microscopic crystals that were perfectly

646
00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:15,039
uniformly aligned. Grown, yes, grown exactly like how we grow

647
00:31:15,119 --> 00:31:19,279
a highly pure silicon semiconductor crystal in a modern clean

648
00:31:19,359 --> 00:31:19,920
room today.

649
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,319
Speaker 1: So let me just summarize this, please. Do we have

650
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,319
a chunk of metal definitively buried in the early nineteen seventies,

651
00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:30,240
made of atoms that chemically aren't from around here, and

652
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,240
it's built using a highly advanced manufacturing method growing bulk

653
00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:37,319
metal that we are honestly only just now beginning to

654
00:31:37,359 --> 00:31:39,160
experiment with in modern labs.

655
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: You nailed it. And to top it off, it had

656
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,319
obvious machining marks.

657
00:31:43,079 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: On the outside, like it was cut by a tool.

658
00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:47,839
Speaker 2: Tool marks right on the edge. But they were way

659
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,359
too clean. They completely lacked the microscopic tearing and stress

660
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,920
fractures you get from any cutting tools that existed in

661
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:54,880
the nineteen seventies.

662
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,039
Speaker 1: Okay, could it possibly be a black project, some ultra

663
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,480
secret cold technology that got buried and forgotten.

664
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,519
Speaker 2: It's a tempting theory. But even ultra secret military projects

665
00:32:06,519 --> 00:32:09,599
have to buy their raw titanium from terrestrial mines, right.

666
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: They can't invent new atoms, they have.

667
00:32:11,599 --> 00:32:15,519
Speaker 2: To use earth physics. This object entirely defies the known

668
00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:18,359
industrial supply chain of the entire twentieth century.

669
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,839
Speaker 1: It is quite literally a manufactured object with no earthly.

670
00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: Manufacturer and absolutely no paper trail, which leads us perfectly

671
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:27,559
into K seven.

672
00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: Oh Man The Underground Chamber twenty eighteen. This one feels

673
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:33,079
exactly like a Cold War spy novel to me.

674
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,839
Speaker 2: It really does. So we are in Eastern Europe. A

675
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,119
heavy demolition crew is tearing down a massive old Soviet

676
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,440
era industrial plant.

677
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: Okay, so a big gray, depressing concrete.

678
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:48,519
Speaker 2: Box, nothing special at all on the surface. Yeah, But

679
00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:50,920
before they can dig up the foundation, they run a

680
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,400
ground penetrating radar.

681
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,599
Speaker 1: Scan just to check for pipes and stuff.

682
00:32:54,759 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: Right, and the scan finds a massive void beneath the

683
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,119
factory floor, a hidden room eight down in the dirt.

684
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,440
So they bring in the excavators and dig it up.

685
00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:04,759
Speaker 1: And what is it.

686
00:33:04,759 --> 00:33:08,559
Speaker 2: It's a heavily reinforced concrete chamber. No stairs leading to it,

687
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,759
no door, just a single heavy steel hatch on the

688
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:13,279
very top.

689
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: Okay, that is incredibly ominous. They open the hatch. What's

690
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,200
inside the room?

691
00:33:17,359 --> 00:33:19,599
Speaker 2: The entire room is totally empty, except for a small

692
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,519
concrete pedestal in the dead center. Oh boy, and sitting

693
00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:25,119
right on that pedestal is a cylinder. A cylinder, a

694
00:33:25,119 --> 00:33:28,200
completely sealed composite cylinder, roughly the size and shape of

695
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,759
a standard fire extinguisher. It weighed exactly forty six kilograms.

696
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,759
Speaker 1: And the plant records, I mean, they must have had

697
00:33:33,759 --> 00:33:35,039
blueprints for this place.

698
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: That is the ultimate bureaucratic horror of this case. The

699
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:43,079
original Soviet plant blueprints absolutely do not show this room.

700
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:43,839
Speaker 1: Nothing.

701
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: The massive inventory logs don't show the object. It officially

702
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:47,880
does not exist.

703
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,079
Speaker 1: So you're telling me someone, some group of human beings

704
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:56,279
secretly built a reinforced concrete room deep under a working factory. Yes,

705
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,400
they carefully place this incredibly heavy, mist furious object inside.

706
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,759
They poured concrete over the whole thing to seal it forever,

707
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,519
and then they completely wiped all the official records.

708
00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 2: And then eventually the Soviet Union collapsed, the plant was abandoned,

709
00:34:11,039 --> 00:34:13,320
and the human memory of that room simply died.

710
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 1: Wow. What was the object itself made of?

711
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 2: It was composed of these tightly interlocking bands of matt

712
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,639
gray metal and a highly advanced ceramic.

713
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,039
Speaker 1: Didn't have any buttons, a scream.

714
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,159
Speaker 2: No interface whatsoever. No buttons, no scream, no seams, no

715
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,480
visible opening. It was just a profoundly solid, impossibly dense object.

716
00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:33,679
Speaker 1: Did they try to crack it open?

717
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: They were too scared to physically cut it in case

718
00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:37,400
it was a weapon, So they tried to X ray

719
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:37,800
it first.

720
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: Smart What did the extray show?

721
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:42,559
Speaker 2: The casing was entirely opaque to standard X rays. It

722
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:45,440
just showed up as a solid black block. Okay, So

723
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,960
then they tried to use high power industrial ultrasound on

724
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,280
it to map the inside. The material completely absorbed the

725
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,079
sound waves, no echo returned.

726
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: It is literally a black box in every conceivable sense

727
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:56,840
of the word.

728
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,280
Speaker 2: It genuinely is it currently sits locked away in a

729
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:05,559
secure government warehouse somewhere. The file just says recovered composite device,

730
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,320
origin unknown, purpose unknown.

731
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 1: See. To me, the really scary part isn't necessarily just

732
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,559
the weird alien cylinder.

733
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:15,159
Speaker 2: What is it?

734
00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: Then? It's the human element. It's the terrifying fact that

735
00:35:18,119 --> 00:35:21,239
human beings possess the capability to hide things so thoroughly

736
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,280
that we completely forget they even exist.

737
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:23,599
Speaker 2: Oh.

738
00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: Absolutely, It strongly implies this whole concept of a shadow history,

739
00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:32,519
a completely separate, undocumented layer of profound activity happening right

740
00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:34,920
beneath the official timeline of humanity.

741
00:35:35,159 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: We all tend to think of human history as this comprehensive,

742
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,920
unbroken record. We do, but it's not. It's really just

743
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,960
a highlight reel of the things we happen to write

744
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,280
down and remember, the vast majority of what actually happens

745
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,800
in the world is permanently lost. This concrete chamber was

746
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,440
just a tiny fragment of that lost shadow history that

747
00:35:53,559 --> 00:35:55,320
accidentally bubbled back to the surface.

748
00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:59,199
Speaker 1: Man, okay, deep breath segment four.

749
00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:01,119
Speaker 2: Segment four shisk years entirely.

750
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've spent a lot of time looking at dead things.

751
00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:07,920
Metal concrete, deep sea rocks, radio signals cool things. Now,

752
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,800
I want to look at life, and I want to

753
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,840
look at the stars. Let's get into glitches in life

754
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:13,719
and the cosmos.

755
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: This is exactly where we start seriously challenging our core

756
00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:19,599
models of biological evolution and astrophysics.

757
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: Let's start with biology case eight, the hypersaline microbe two

758
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,800
thousand and nine. Right, we are way out in a remote,

759
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,960
high altitude desert plateau.

760
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,679
Speaker 2: Extremely remote, high salt content in the soil, intense ultraviolet

761
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:33,719
radiation from the sun.

762
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,679
Speaker 1: Basically an environment that aggressively wants you to be dead.

763
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 2: It's toxic. But biologists were out there intentionally hunting for extremophile.

764
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: Extremophiles bacteria that love living in hell.

765
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: Essentially yes, and they found one in the soil. They

766
00:36:47,519 --> 00:36:50,679
took a physical sample back to their clean lab, put

767
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,960
it in a petri dish, and started studying it. The

768
00:36:54,119 --> 00:36:58,599
organism had unusually thick cellular membranes to survive the salt,

769
00:36:59,239 --> 00:36:59,960
which was interesting.

770
00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: But then they looked at the DNA right.

771
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 2: Standard procedure, they ran what's called a sixteen sr RNA sequence.

772
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: Translate that for us, it's.

773
00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 2: Basically scanning the fundamental barcode of life. Every living thing

774
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,360
has it. Usually, when you scan a new bacteria, the

775
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,480
computer gives you a match.

776
00:37:16,559 --> 00:37:18,559
Speaker 1: It says, ah, this is a weird cousin of E.

777
00:37:18,679 --> 00:37:22,599
Speaker 2: Colif exactly, Or this shares ninety nine percent of its

778
00:37:22,679 --> 00:37:25,199
DNA with a known halobacterium.

779
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: And what did the computer say for this one?

780
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,159
Speaker 2: The database returned a partial match. Marshall said, sixty eight

781
00:37:31,199 --> 00:37:35,079
percent of the microbe's genome perfectly matched a known domain

782
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,519
of single celled organisms called Archaea.

783
00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's sixty eight percent normal Earth bacteria. Yes,

784
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,480
but what about the other thirty two percent?

785
00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 2: It was completely blank?

786
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: What do you mean blank? Like the DNA was damaged.

787
00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:51,119
Speaker 2: No, the DNA was perfectly healthy, but the code was unprecedented.

788
00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:54,760
There was absolutely zero genetic history for that thirty two

789
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,800
percent anywhere in the global database, no evolutionary ancestors.

790
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: Hold on, let's back up. Evolution fundamentally works by inheritance, right, correct.

791
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,719
You get your genes from your parents. They got them

792
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,000
from their parents, all the way back to the primordial soup.

793
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 2: Yes, you can.

794
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: Theoretically trace the genetic tree back for everything on Earth exactly.

795
00:38:14,119 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: Every single gene in your body usually has a cousin

796
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:18,840
somewhere else in nature.

797
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,679
Speaker 1: But that's thirty two percent.

798
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: It was totally unique, isolated code. Wow, it didn't look

799
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,159
like it slowly evolved through mutations from terrestrial ancestors.

800
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,679
Speaker 1: It looked inserted, inserted, like a software patch update.

801
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 2: That's the perfect analogy, or a massive lateral gene transfer

802
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,760
from a completely unknown, uncataloged source.

803
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: And it made the bug tough. Oh.

804
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 2: The organism was an absolute biological tank. Sure in the lab,

805
00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:48,440
it easily survived eight full months of total desiccation zero water,

806
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,599
and it casually shrugged off ionizing radiation levels that would

807
00:38:52,639 --> 00:38:54,880
instantly sterilize standard medical equipment.

808
00:38:55,119 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: So the obvious question is where on Earth did that

809
00:38:57,599 --> 00:38:59,840
thirty two percent of alien code come from.

810
00:39:00,159 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 2: There is a very controversial hypothesis in astrobiology right now

811
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:05,880
called the shadow biosphere.

812
00:39:06,039 --> 00:39:07,119
Speaker 1: Oh, I've heard of this.

813
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,639
Speaker 2: The core idea is that as scientists, we really only

814
00:39:10,679 --> 00:39:14,199
ever find the specific types of life that we already

815
00:39:14,199 --> 00:39:14,960
know how to look.

816
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 1: For, because our tests are fundamentally calibrated for standard normal DNA.

817
00:39:19,519 --> 00:39:22,199
Speaker 2: Right The theory posits that there might actually be a

818
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,639
completely second, separate tree of life right here on Earth.

819
00:39:26,679 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 1: Aliens that have just been living here the whole time.

820
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 2: Deep down in the rocks or high in the atmosphere,

821
00:39:32,519 --> 00:39:35,840
and this specific desert microbe somehow bumped into one of

822
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,880
them and picked up some incredibly useful survival genes from them.

823
00:39:39,199 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: That is a wild thought to just sit with for

824
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,079
a second, the idea that we actively share our planet

825
00:39:44,119 --> 00:39:46,840
with invisible, radically different roommates.

826
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 2: And we only ever notice them when our standard normal

827
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,719
life decides to borrow a cup of genetic sugar from them.

828
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,079
Speaker 1: That gives me chills. Okay, let's swing the pendulum from

829
00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:58,880
the microscopic world all the way to the gigantic cosmic scale.

830
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,039
Speaker 2: The clockwork star.

831
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: Case nine, the Clockwork Star. This anomaly has been actively

832
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,039
happening since nineteen seventy two. Yes, we are looking out

833
00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:10,360
into the Sickness Constellation.

834
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 2: Which is roughly fourteen hundred light years away from Earth, and.

835
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,079
Speaker 1: There is a specific star out there that blinks.

836
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 2: Right now.

837
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,639
Speaker 1: I know a little bit about astronomy. Stars blink all

838
00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:22,239
the time. Planets pass in front of them and block

839
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,719
the light. That is literally how we find exoplanets.

840
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 2: That is entirely true when a planet physically passes in

841
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,159
front of its host star, which we call it transit.

842
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,400
It briefly blocks a tiny, tiny fraction of the star's

843
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,280
light from reaching our telescopes. Okay, we are talking maybe

844
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,920
a one percent drop in brightness for an absolutely massive

845
00:40:41,039 --> 00:40:45,119
gas giant planet like Jupiter. One percent, right, And importantly,

846
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:48,760
because planets are giant spheres. The light curve of the

847
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,400
graph showing the dimming effect is a very smooth, gentle

848
00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:53,480
U shape.

849
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 1: Because the round edge of the planet slowly covers the

850
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,400
star and then slowly uncovers it exactly.

851
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,039
Speaker 2: It starts, bottoms out smoothly, and comes gracefully back up.

852
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,639
Speaker 1: So what exactly is happening with this star in sickness?

853
00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:10,039
Speaker 2: When it transits? The star dims by fourteen percent?

854
00:41:10,199 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: Fourteen percent? Yes, wait, if Jupiter is only one percent

855
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,599
of fourteen percent drop, that's not a planet. No, that

856
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,800
is something unfathomably enormous.

857
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,079
Speaker 2: It is genuinely colossal. But the sheer size isn't even

858
00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:26,199
the weirdest part. What is the shape of the dimming

859
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:30,000
curve is entirely wrong? Not a U shape, No, it's

860
00:41:30,039 --> 00:41:33,920
shaped like a bucket. The starlight drops incredibly sharply, stays

861
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,679
completely flat at the very bottom for days on end

862
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,119
and then shoots straight back up.

863
00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: No. Wait, a perfectly flat bottom on a light curve

864
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:43,280
that implies a straight edge.

865
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 2: It absolutely implies a massive, solid, opaque object with a

866
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,119
strictly defined hard leading edge and a hard trailing edge.

867
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: Not a fuzzy round cloud of gas.

868
00:41:53,039 --> 00:41:54,639
Speaker 2: No, a solid wall, a.

869
00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: Wall in space. And the timing of these transits is

870
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:57,960
it random?

871
00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:01,639
Speaker 2: It happens exactly every nine years years nineteen seventy two,

872
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:06,039
nineteen eighty one, nineteen ninety, nineteen ninety nine, two thousand

873
00:42:06,039 --> 00:42:08,039
and eight, twenty seventeen.

874
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: It is literally on a cosmic train.

875
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 2: Schedule, precisely. Now, if this anomaly, we're just a random

876
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,719
debris field, you know, a giant cloud of pulverized asteroids.

877
00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:21,679
Its shape would radically change over the course of forty

878
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,119
years because of gravity, right, gravity and orbital mechanics would

879
00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:27,960
inevitably spread the rocks out. The dimming curve would get

880
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,159
fuzzy and unpredictable.

881
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: But it doesn't.

882
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:34,519
Speaker 2: No, this specific object has rigidly maintained its physical cohesion

883
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,320
and its sharp geometric shape for half a century.

884
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,519
Speaker 1: Okay, so let me just paint this picture for the listener.

885
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: Go for it.

886
00:42:40,159 --> 00:42:44,199
Speaker 1: We have a solid object significantly larger than the planet Jupiter. Yes,

887
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,360
it has impossibly hard straight edges, It does not glow

888
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,079
or emit its own light, and it is orbiting a

889
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:54,159
star on a strict, mathematically perfect timetable.

890
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 2: Yes. And as a scientist, I really really try to

891
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:02,480
avoid using the M word in public. M word megas structure, megastructure.

892
00:43:02,519 --> 00:43:06,119
You said it, I did, because honestly, it is exceedingly

893
00:43:06,199 --> 00:43:10,239
hard to model this event using natural astrophysics.

894
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: I can imagine.

895
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,639
Speaker 2: Conceptually a component of a dice and swarm or some

896
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:19,280
kind of massive artificial solar shield actually fits the raw

897
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,719
data significantly better than a natural dust cloud does.

898
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 1: It's the sheer sharpness of it that really gets me.

899
00:43:25,639 --> 00:43:28,119
Nature is almost always fuzzy and soft at the edges.

900
00:43:28,679 --> 00:43:30,159
Only artificial things are sharp.

901
00:43:30,199 --> 00:43:32,199
Speaker 2: And the terrifying part is it's still doing it. The

902
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,719
next schedule transit for the clockwork Star is coming up.

903
00:43:34,639 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: Soon, and every telescope on Earth is going to be watched.

904
00:43:37,039 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: You bet they will.

905
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,199
Speaker 1: Okay, we have reached our final segment, segment five. There

906
00:43:41,199 --> 00:43:45,440
we go, the anomaly of time, the bureaucratic glitch. Yes, now,

907
00:43:45,519 --> 00:43:48,639
out of all ten cases in our deep dive today.

908
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,559
This one, this one is oddly my favorite. Why is

909
00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:54,320
that because it is just so incredibly mundane. It's not

910
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,079
deep space, it's not the bottom of the ocean, and

911
00:43:56,159 --> 00:43:58,079
yet it completely breaks reality.

912
00:43:58,199 --> 00:44:02,039
Speaker 2: It really does. Case ten fall seven a dash for

913
00:44:02,199 --> 00:44:03,239
four one nine. Right.

914
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 1: This file was discovered relatively recently in two thousand and sixteen.

915
00:44:08,159 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 2: Yes, they found it at the National Records Administration.

916
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: Building the government archives.

917
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 2: Right. The agency was undergoing a massive multi year project

918
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,239
to digitally scan all their old paper files to save space.

919
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,159
Speaker 1: Just millions and millions of boring pages.

920
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:28,679
Speaker 2: Mine, numbing stuff, standard investigations into imported steel tariffs, archaic

921
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,280
tax codes, old zoning laws.

922
00:44:31,079 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: The definition of bureaucracy exactly.

923
00:44:33,639 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 2: So, an archivist pulls this specific folder. At first glance,

924
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,719
it just looks like a completely standard internal investigation into

925
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,079
some industrial material supply chains from the late nineteen seventies.

926
00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: Boring, But then they noticed something is very wrong with

927
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:47,519
the dates.

928
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,679
Speaker 2: Actually, the problem was that there were absolutely no dates,

929
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,679
literally blank. There were no timestamps on the official memos,

930
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,519
no dates written next to the authorization signatures, just blank,

931
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,360
empty lines where the date should legally be.

932
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: Okay, that's weird, but human error happens. Someone was just

933
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,960
being a really lazy clerk, right. We can easily date

934
00:45:08,039 --> 00:45:10,480
a file by looking at the context clues inside it.

935
00:45:10,559 --> 00:45:13,159
Speaker 2: That's exactly what the archivists tried to do. They looked

936
00:45:13,159 --> 00:45:17,599
closely at the complex administrative routing codes, those little reference

937
00:45:17,679 --> 00:45:20,440
numbers typed at the very top margins of the pages.

938
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:21,639
Speaker 1: The tracking numbers.

939
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: Yes, those specific routing codes strongly correspond to a brand

940
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,519
new filing system that was officially introduced to the department

941
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:31,719
in nineteen eighty one.

942
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,639
Speaker 1: Okay, problem solved. The file is officially from nineteen eighty one.

943
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,840
The clerk just forgot to stamp the date on it.

944
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: Not so fast, because it's a government archive. They decided

945
00:45:42,079 --> 00:45:45,840
to analyze the physical paper itself and the specific typewriter

946
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font used to type.

947
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: The words forensic analysis, I love it.

948
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,559
Speaker 2: They quickly discovered that the entire file was typed on

949
00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:56,920
a very specific machine, an IBM Selectric Model typewriter A classic. Yes,

950
00:45:57,159 --> 00:46:00,719
but that specific model of IBM's Electric was officially discontinued

951
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,000
and physically removed from all government offices in nineteen seventy nine.

952
00:46:05,159 --> 00:46:06,519
Speaker 1: Okay, wait a second, and.

953
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 2: The chemical formulation of the black ink on the ribbon.

954
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,320
The lab dated the inks manufacturing run to nineteen seventy eight.

955
00:46:12,519 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: Maybe wrap my head around this, take your time. The

956
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:19,119
physical tangible object, the paper and the ink, absolutely has

957
00:46:19,159 --> 00:46:21,639
to be from nineteen seventy eight or nineteen seventy nine.

958
00:46:21,679 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: The forensics prove it.

959
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: But the conceptual information written on that paper, the administrative

960
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,199
routing codes, physically did not exist until nineteen eighty one.

961
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:37,039
Speaker 2: Correct. It is a literal anachronism, a physical paradox, sitting

962
00:46:37,039 --> 00:46:38,239
in a Manila folder.

963
00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: That shouldn't be possible. And where exactly was it found

964
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:42,679
in the archive boxes?

965
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 2: That's the cherry on top. It was physically filed alphabetically,

966
00:46:46,599 --> 00:46:49,519
sitting right between a verified folder from nineteen seventy eight

967
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,760
and another verified folder from nineteen seventy nine, but.

968
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: It was never officially logged into the main system.

969
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: Never. It's the ghost file that.

970
00:46:57,039 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: Is just It's the most unsettling one on list.

971
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 2: To me, I agree completely because it.

972
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,639
Speaker 1: Quietly suggests that even the linear flow of time itself

973
00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:06,559
is a little glitchy.

974
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 2: Right.

975
00:47:07,079 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: Imagine digging through your attic and finding a handwritten letter

976
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,920
from your grandfather, undeniably written in postmarked in nineteen fifty.

977
00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 2: Okay, but halfway.

978
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: Through the letter he casually uses the.

979
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,039
Speaker 2: Word internet exactly. It breaks causality.

980
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,199
Speaker 1: It exists physically in the real world. You can pick

981
00:47:23,199 --> 00:47:26,039
it up and touch it, but it violently violates the

982
00:47:26,119 --> 00:47:27,480
laws of cause and effect.

983
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 2: It's terrifying because it quietly suggests that all of our

984
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,519
meticulous human record keeping is really just a polite suggestion

985
00:47:35,639 --> 00:47:37,440
to the universe, not a rigid rule.

986
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,079
Speaker 1: Wow, all right, let's just take a collective breath here.

987
00:47:41,199 --> 00:47:43,320
We have covered a lot of ground in the step

988
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,480
dive ten distinct cases.

989
00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 2: It is a massive amount of data to process.

990
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: Let's recap. We have mysterious radio signals from deep space

991
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,119
that behave exactly like engineered machine.

992
00:47:54,159 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 2: We have perfect rectangles in massive honeycombs hidden deep on

993
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:58,639
the ocean floor.

994
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,079
Speaker 1: We have an impossibly grow our own piece of metal

995
00:48:01,079 --> 00:48:04,639
from the seventies that entirely defies terrestrial chemistry, a.

996
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 2: Desert microbrunning on thirty two percent totally alien software code.

997
00:48:08,679 --> 00:48:13,039
Speaker 1: A distant star eclipsed by a wall of incomprehensible size.

998
00:48:12,559 --> 00:48:16,159
Speaker 2: And a boring administrative file that somehow slipped backward through time.

999
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,079
Speaker 1: When you look at all of these sources together, what

1000
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,039
is the core common thread here? What's the takeaway?

1001
00:48:22,159 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 2: I think the fundamental common thread is the profound failure

1002
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:29,199
of repetition. Explain that modern science completely relies on the

1003
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,480
idea of repeatability. The core premise is that if you

1004
00:48:32,519 --> 00:48:35,599
do a sophific experiment once, you can do it again

1005
00:48:35,679 --> 00:48:36,960
and get the exact same results.

1006
00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: Right, That's how we build the models.

1007
00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 2: But these ten cases, they are singularities.

1008
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: They only happen once.

1009
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: Exactly, they violently happen. They shatter the established rules of

1010
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,920
reality for a brief moment, and then they completely vanish

1011
00:48:50,199 --> 00:48:51,599
before we can study them properly.

1012
00:48:51,639 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: They are the exceptions that prove well, honestly, they prove

1013
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,199
that we really don't know everything.

1014
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 2: Far from it. Yeah, these anomalies are basically cosmic pressure

1015
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,079
points thressure points. This show is exactly where our current

1016
00:49:03,159 --> 00:49:07,440
scientific models are weak and prone to breaking, and historically

1017
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,320
that is exactly where the real discoveries happen.

1018
00:49:10,639 --> 00:49:13,079
Speaker 1: If we just ignored the anomalies, we get to stay

1019
00:49:13,079 --> 00:49:14,920
safe and comfortable in our little boxes.

1020
00:49:15,159 --> 00:49:18,559
Speaker 2: But if we bravely poke at them, we might actually

1021
00:49:18,639 --> 00:49:20,679
learn how the universe truly functions.

1022
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: It really suggests that our current everyday model of reality

1023
00:49:24,639 --> 00:49:26,840
is just a good enough approximation for now.

1024
00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 2: Precisely. Think about it. Classic Newtonian physics was considered perfectly

1025
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:37,480
good enough for centuries until scientists started noticing tiny, weird

1026
00:49:37,639 --> 00:49:41,039
anomalies in the data that eventually force them to invent

1027
00:49:41,159 --> 00:49:45,440
quantum mechanics. Right these weird glitches we discussed today, they

1028
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,239
are the breadcrumbs leading us to the next massive leap

1029
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:48,920
in physics.

1030
00:49:49,039 --> 00:49:51,199
Speaker 1: I love the thought you put in the notes earlier. Somewhere,

1031
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,239
right now, at this exact moment, another impossible anomaly has

1032
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,320
been perfectly recorded. It just hasn't been recognized yet.

1033
00:49:58,599 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 2: It is almost certainly sitting on a forgotten hard drive

1034
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,440
in a dark basement lab right now, waiting for a

1035
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:05,519
grad student to notice it.

1036
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:06,679
Speaker 1: I guarantee it is.

1037
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 2: We just have to keep looking.

1038
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,559
Speaker 1: So here's the big question for you listening to us

1039
00:50:10,599 --> 00:50:14,199
right now. We have given you ten incredibly well documented

1040
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:15,079
glitches in.

1041
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 2: Reality, ten mysteries.

1042
00:50:16,519 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: If you could magically pick just one of these cases

1043
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,119
to be fully solved tomorrow, meaning fully explained to the public,

1044
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,119
no more secrets, completely transparent, Which one would you pick?

1045
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 2: That is a tough choice.

1046
00:50:26,519 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: Would you want the nineteen eighty four signal to finally

1047
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:34,199
get undeniable proof of intelligent aliens? Would you pick the

1048
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:39,719
Alien Metal to unlock entirely new physical laws and technologies.

1049
00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 2: Or would you pick the Ghost file to finally understand

1050
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,760
how time travel actually works?

1051
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: What about you? Which one are you picking?

1052
00:50:45,639 --> 00:50:49,039
Speaker 2: Personally? I want the microbe I desperately want to know

1053
00:50:49,119 --> 00:50:52,159
exactly where that thirty two percent of alien DNA came from,

1054
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,039
and what else is living down here with us.

1055
00:50:54,119 --> 00:50:56,199
Speaker 1: That's a good one for me. Honestly, I think I

1056
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,239
want the file. It just bothers me on such a

1057
00:50:58,280 --> 00:50:59,719
deep existential level.

1058
00:51:00,119 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 2: Anomalies will do that to you.

1059
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,599
Speaker 1: Let us know what you think. Drop a comment, tell

1060
00:51:03,679 --> 00:51:07,800
us your wildest theory on which anomaly breaks reality the hardest.

1061
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: And whatever you do, always check your raw data. You

1062
00:51:10,519 --> 00:51:11,960
never know what's hiding in the noise.

1063
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,039
Speaker 1: So true. Thanks for joining us on this deep dive.

1064
00:51:15,079 --> 00:51:17,440
Thanks for listening to thrilling threads. We will see you

1065
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all next time.