WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:05.519 It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBS Boston's Radio. 2 00:00:07.040 --> 00:00:10.919 Thank you, Anne Paul pro one of my favorite people. 3 00:00:10.960 --> 00:00:13.800 Joining us see from Patriot Football Weekly WBC's Nightside, Gary 4 00:00:13.839 --> 00:00:16.879 Tangling for Dan Ray. Uh so, what do you think 5 00:00:16.920 --> 00:00:22.120 about Trump, Paul Paulie, I gotta tell you, I am 6 00:00:22.399 --> 00:00:24.679 I We're gonna talk football, We're gonna talk about the 7 00:00:24.800 --> 00:00:28.000 entire NFL. But I just I don't watch politics and 8 00:00:28.079 --> 00:00:30.039 I'm here, I am on WBC Radio, and that's the 9 00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:32.479 last thing I should probably be saying. And I just 10 00:00:32.520 --> 00:00:35.359 had two great conversations with people that do it, but 11 00:00:35.479 --> 00:00:38.679 like I can't after the election, I just can't do it. 12 00:00:39.240 --> 00:00:41.159 I'm just I get a migraine. 13 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:45.320 It was tiring, I have to The election season was 14 00:00:45.560 --> 00:00:47.520 very tiring. I'll tell you that. I mean, I'm not 15 00:00:47.759 --> 00:00:50.759 the most Yeah, I'm not the most political guy either, 16 00:00:50.799 --> 00:00:53.679 but you know, obviously it's you know, it's a pretty 17 00:00:53.719 --> 00:00:56.320 relevant election and uh and it was. It was a 18 00:00:56.359 --> 00:00:57.840 lot going through. It was a lot. 19 00:00:57.960 --> 00:00:59.600 Yeah. I mean, you're a smart guy. You know, you're 20 00:00:59.640 --> 00:01:01.159 well d you know what's going on. And I'm not 21 00:01:01.159 --> 00:01:02.600 going to ask you who you voted for or anything 22 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:04.680 like that, but I mean, it was just nuts. I mean, 23 00:01:04.760 --> 00:01:07.920 there's definitely an exhaustion. And now when people say, oh 24 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:09.400 the God Trump won, it's the end of the world. 25 00:01:09.439 --> 00:01:11.159 It's not the end of the world. We're gonna be fine. 26 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:13.959 Everything is going to be fine. It's not the end 27 00:01:14.040 --> 00:01:15.439 of the world. Jesus. 28 00:01:15.599 --> 00:01:18.239 Yeah, God, there's a lot of overreactions on both sides. 29 00:01:19.239 --> 00:01:20.599 That's a big part of the problem. 30 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:24.480 That is a major part of the problem. So Paul, Paul, 31 00:01:24.519 --> 00:01:27.319 how are you doing this season? Because you've been with 32 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:29.840 the Patriots f I first met you when you were 33 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:31.840 with the Herald. How long have you been with the 34 00:01:31.879 --> 00:01:33.680 Patriots and Patriots dot com? 35 00:01:33.879 --> 00:01:36.799 Yeah, since nineteen ninety nine. You know, Pete Carroll's last 36 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:40.760 year's is I think the twenty sixth season, and you 37 00:01:40.760 --> 00:01:43.959 know you're asking, you know, how we're doing. It's you know, listen, 38 00:01:44.359 --> 00:01:47.719 people aren't going to be holding any you know, gofundmes 39 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:51.079 or anything for us. But it's been a different season 40 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:53.400 than a difficult one. You know, they haven't played well. 41 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:56.879 They haven't played well for the last couple of seasons. 42 00:01:57.599 --> 00:01:59.760 And you know, right now, you come off a game 43 00:01:59.879 --> 00:02:03.280 like like yesterday's and you know, it just doesn't really 44 00:02:03.280 --> 00:02:04.920 seem like there's as much of a light at the 45 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:07.879 end of the tunnel beyond Drake May and and obviously 46 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:08.520 that's not enough. 47 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:10.319 Yeah, we can get into the extras and os and 48 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:12.080 all that stuff, but I mean, what's you're feeling when 49 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:16.400 you walk around town or you know, do people care 50 00:02:16.800 --> 00:02:19.400 like they used to? Is there is there a hatred 51 00:02:20.719 --> 00:02:23.080 or I shouldn't even say a hatred because the Red Sox, 52 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:25.800 when the Red Sox would lose, people would just go bananas, 53 00:02:26.240 --> 00:02:28.840 you know. Yeah, I don't get that same type of 54 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:30.479 feeling with the Pats. 55 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:33.960 Yeah, I don't think it is either. You know, there 56 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:36.719 was nothing kind of like that, you know, that Red 57 00:02:36.759 --> 00:02:40.080 Sox doom. But I would say it's not a hatred. 58 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:42.400 I think it's more of just a disappointment and a 59 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:46.159 frustration right now with you know, you saw how good 60 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:49.400 it could be for so long and now I think 61 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:52.039 people are just looking at it as you know, it's 62 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:55.879 almost hopeless right now, and there's just not a lot 63 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:58.039 of things going well. You know, I think there's some 64 00:02:59.000 --> 00:03:01.960 there's some questions out the you know, the the newness 65 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:04.039 of everything, the new regime, and you know, there's a 66 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:05.719 lot of first year there's a lot of first year 67 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:08.039 guys doing things for the first time, so there's growing 68 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:10.439 pains that come with that, and you know, I think 69 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:13.120 there's a lot of frustration on the fans part. I 70 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:17.000 don't necessarily sense a lot of hatred. I just think, 71 00:03:17.560 --> 00:03:20.919 you know, the Dolphins game in particular, I thought was 72 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:24.120 kind of just sort of a very frustrat I think 73 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:27.680 people felt like they were beyond those kinds of performances. 74 00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:30.080 You know, they they hadn't gotten to the point where 75 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:32.960 they were a playoff contender or anything like that. But 76 00:03:33.000 --> 00:03:35.000 I think you watched that, you know, the they beat 77 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:37.879 the Jets, they beat the Bears, you know, in between 78 00:03:37.919 --> 00:03:40.800 they had a game against you know who was it, 79 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:43.680 the Rams that you know obviously went down to the 80 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:46.879 last possession of the game, and I think people felt like, Okay, 81 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:51.879 well they're competing, they're showing some signs of life. Offensively, 82 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:55.080 you could see a track where they were they were 83 00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:57.879 getting toward respectability, and I think a lot of that 84 00:03:57.919 --> 00:04:01.439 took a huge step backwards down in South Florida on 85 00:04:01.560 --> 00:04:04.520 Sunday and it wasn't overly competitive, and I think there's 86 00:04:04.520 --> 00:04:05.800 a lot of frustration over that. 87 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:08.000 Well, this is what I think when I was watching 88 00:04:08.039 --> 00:04:13.680 the game is for the first time since I'm gonna 89 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:16.399 say before, look, I remember Rod Rust. 90 00:04:18.160 --> 00:04:19.720 Unfortunately I do too, you know. 91 00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:23.000 I mean I remember Rod Rust and Sam was the 92 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:25.480 GM from the University of Miami. I forgot his last name, 93 00:04:25.519 --> 00:04:29.519 and then yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, and then Dick McPherson 94 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:33.000 is like, you know, and I'm not talking about losers 95 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:37.199 like losers like losing games. I'm just talking about I 96 00:04:37.240 --> 00:04:41.959 looked at that team on Sunday and I thought, Okay, 97 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:46.120 these guys are just like losers. I mean losers, losers, 98 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:49.800 like do you even care? Can you even put in 99 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:53.519 an effort? I saw a team that quit. I think 100 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:55.839 the offensive line is just ill equipped. I mean fifty 101 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:57.839 nine whoever hell that guy's name is. I mean, in 102 00:04:57.879 --> 00:04:59.800 the old days, he would have been gone. I mean 103 00:04:59.839 --> 00:05:02.959 he three penalties off the top, and you know, but 104 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:06.639 the defense, I just thought that they quit. And that's 105 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:09.680 when I say, like, like, losers like these are not 106 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:14.959 at the level I think of dedication that we're accustomed 107 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:18.120 to for a Patriot player. I mean, look, you know, 108 00:05:18.199 --> 00:05:20.639 you can have guys that aren't talented, but there was 109 00:05:20.680 --> 00:05:24.279 always an effort. I mean Russ Holstein is not a 110 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:27.759 pro bowler, but you know there are guys that just 111 00:05:27.759 --> 00:05:30.399 got buy on effort. I didn't even see that pole. 112 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:33.279 That's that. I mean, there was And that's part of 113 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:35.639 what I'm talking about with the frustration level. And I 114 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:38.879 don't know necessarily that it was effort as much as 115 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:41.680 it was just poor play, you know, and certainly the 116 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:46.040 discipline and whatnot has been lacking to focus, the attention 117 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:49.240 to detail. Too many penalties, too many pre snap penalties. 118 00:05:49.240 --> 00:05:51.160 You said the thing, you know, fifty nine, you're talking 119 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:55.839 about Venerian Low. He's really I mean, he really struggled yesterday. 120 00:05:55.879 --> 00:05:58.360 He had a just a bad game. When he wasn't 121 00:05:58.439 --> 00:06:01.920 jumping off side, he was given up pressure on the outside. 122 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:04.560 So it was not it was not good enough in 123 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:08.759 any really in any phase of the game. And defensively 124 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:12.040 they just had no answers. So I think that's where 125 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:14.720 the frustration comes in. You're not really competitive on either 126 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:17.759 side of the ball against a four and sixteen, you know, 127 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:20.199 it's it's not like Miami came in at you know 128 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:22.759 ten and one detroit lyons that are you know, running 129 00:06:22.800 --> 00:06:26.000 rough shot over everybody. This was a team that that was, 130 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:28.360 you know, sort of a middler, and they made you 131 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:30.639 look like you were you were really one of the 132 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:31.240 bottom teams. 133 00:06:31.240 --> 00:06:33.360 I mean the quarterback is average at best. 134 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:38.240 Yeah, well he's not average against the Patriots in his career. 135 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:40.879 I mean I looked at the seven and O, I said, 136 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:43.519 you've got to be kiddyy. First of all, I feel 137 00:06:43.560 --> 00:06:45.120 bad for the guy. I don't think he should play. 138 00:06:45.160 --> 00:06:46.399 I think he's not going to know what he is 139 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:49.000 when he's forty, and I wish he wouldn't play. But 140 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:51.759 that's a whole other story. That's obviously his decision and 141 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:55.240 how he makes a living. But look for that guy 142 00:06:55.240 --> 00:06:57.839 to light you up. I mean, that's it. That's just embarrassing. 143 00:06:58.519 --> 00:07:01.839 It's just it's just so. Here's my thing, though, is 144 00:07:03.319 --> 00:07:07.279 you know, and I listen. I know they're on another company, 145 00:07:07.319 --> 00:07:09.360 but you know, I'm listening to Mike and Tony and 146 00:07:09.399 --> 00:07:12.240 all of my old cronies there in sports radio, and 147 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:14.240 they got a job to do, like they like, they 148 00:07:14.319 --> 00:07:17.839 keep telling you it's today, Paul. We have to do 149 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:21.800 a show today, Paul, we have a show today. Here's 150 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:26.720 my thing. I'm very patient, and after leaving the business 151 00:07:26.759 --> 00:07:29.800 full time, I'm a much kinder and gentler person. I 152 00:07:29.879 --> 00:07:33.360 was never I'm so relaxed. I gotta be honest with you, 153 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:35.439 I really am. I don't miss any of it. I 154 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:37.160 don't miss having to try to come up with a 155 00:07:37.199 --> 00:07:42.519 come up with a a confrontation, if you will, or 156 00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:47.360 a controversy. I just believe what really screwed them is 157 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:51.480 Belichick left the cover dry. I mean, if you go 158 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:55.959 back and you look at what Bill did after Brady left, 159 00:07:56.120 --> 00:07:59.439 they just and obviously he got in a pisson match 160 00:07:59.480 --> 00:08:02.800 because he didn't like the quarterback right, and then he 161 00:08:02.879 --> 00:08:06.480 put his guys in his offensive coordinators. And I just 162 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:09.360 think it's going to take time to recover from the 163 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:10.519 mess that Bill left. 164 00:08:12.839 --> 00:08:14.480 Yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot of truth 165 00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:17.519 to that. Listen, the roster is what it is, and 166 00:08:17.519 --> 00:08:20.040 and a lot of the roster problems fall on Belichick 167 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:24.680 because of quite frankly, some very poor drafting over the 168 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:27.720 last you know, call it eight or ten years. Oh yeah, 169 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:32.320 and it's and it's just it's the reason one of 170 00:08:32.320 --> 00:08:34.600 the one of the biggest reasons obviously the biggest reason 171 00:08:34.639 --> 00:08:36.720 is Tom Brady, but one of the biggest reasons they 172 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:39.039 were able to staining what they did for so long 173 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:42.559 was just year after year of being able to replace 174 00:08:42.639 --> 00:08:47.240 guys in the draft with comparable or at times better players. 175 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:50.440 You know, you're able to plug in, you know, Nate 176 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:53.000 Solder is a first round pick for Matt Light and 177 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:56.159 you're able to you know, just sort of keep the 178 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:59.200 train moving in the right direction. And that I could 179 00:08:59.240 --> 00:09:03.159 give you that example at twenty different spots over the years, 180 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:06.559 you know, just finding a Logan Mankins to put on 181 00:09:06.600 --> 00:09:09.000 the offensive line prout of the first round, you know, 182 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:12.279 and replacing guys who go you know, go on to 183 00:09:12.360 --> 00:09:15.120 separate ways. And they just haven't been able to do 184 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:19.559 that in the last let's call it seven years. They 185 00:09:19.639 --> 00:09:23.320 consistently have missed on draft picks and that's really set 186 00:09:23.360 --> 00:09:26.279 them back, and that falls on Belichick. He was in 187 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:28.960 charge of all of that. The roster right now is 188 00:09:29.080 --> 00:09:31.720 really lacking in a lot of different areas. That's the 189 00:09:31.759 --> 00:09:33.759 one silver lining. You know, we talked about this on 190 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:37.600 our post game show yesterday. The one silver lining to 191 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:40.000 being a team in the situation that they're in is 192 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:43.759 that you're going to have a top five picks. It's 193 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:48.320 really advantageous to be able to pick absolutely anything. And 194 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:50.559 the only thing that they will not be looking for 195 00:09:50.600 --> 00:09:53.279 in the top five is a quarterback, right, because they are. 196 00:09:53.360 --> 00:09:56.279 You know, obviously they just took one. But you can 197 00:09:56.840 --> 00:09:59.120 really do the old adage and a lot I know 198 00:09:59.159 --> 00:10:00.879 a lot of teams say they like to said, well 199 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:03.759 we take the best player available. A lot of teams 200 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:06.679 say that. Most of them don't necessarily mean it. You 201 00:10:06.759 --> 00:10:08.759 take the best player at the position that you need 202 00:10:08.799 --> 00:10:11.279 the most, right, and that's not always the same thing. Well, 203 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:14.440 the Patriots can legitimately take the best player because it 204 00:10:14.480 --> 00:10:17.000 almost has to be at a position of need. I 205 00:10:17.039 --> 00:10:23.159 mean whether it's offensive tackle, wide receiver, cornerback, edge rusher, linebacker. 206 00:10:23.519 --> 00:10:26.480 I mean, they need a lot of stuff. And as 207 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:29.200 you said, Gary, it all stems from the roster that 208 00:10:29.240 --> 00:10:32.320 was left behind by Belichick and there's just not enough talent. 209 00:10:32.559 --> 00:10:36.399 I remember the great Clark Booth. I remember this interview 210 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:39.679 when he said, and he went across the board, he 211 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:48.080 went the Bruins, Harry Sindon got old, Celtics Red got old. Yeah, 212 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:50.519 and I don't want to listen. At this stage of 213 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:53.679 my life, I've been victimized by agism. I'm not I 214 00:10:53.679 --> 00:10:57.159 don't want to go crazy on this, but Bill obviously 215 00:10:57.320 --> 00:11:00.519 did not put the same attention to d tail into 216 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:03.360 drafting or rely on his people the way he did 217 00:11:03.399 --> 00:11:07.279 in the past. That's just a fact. He just wanted, 218 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:10.879 you know, he listened. He from what I heard that 219 00:11:10.919 --> 00:11:13.799 he didn't listen to his people, that he would listen 220 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:15.960 to people from other organizations. 221 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:18.799 Yeah, I mean, I do think he sort of started 222 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:23.080 to fall into sort of going off of some of 223 00:11:23.120 --> 00:11:26.440 his trusted coaches. You know, he would go to Alabama 224 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:28.879 with Nick Saban, he'd go Florida, you know, to other 225 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:32.480 you know, to other urban Meyer back, yes, at Florida, 226 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:35.919 And that's how he would do a lot of his 227 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:39.000 his evaluations. He would take the you know, the opinions 228 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:41.519 of guys that he trusted and run with him. And 229 00:11:41.559 --> 00:11:44.399 that's where some of the missteps came from. Now, that 230 00:11:44.440 --> 00:11:47.480 doesn't explain it all away either. I mean, I just 231 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:51.519 feel like there were probably a lot of sort of 232 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:54.519 questionable picks over the years that didn't really come back 233 00:11:54.519 --> 00:11:57.240 and hurt them as much because Tom Brady was was 234 00:11:57.279 --> 00:11:59.919 here to kind of make everything look better, and you know, 235 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:03.559 when he left, I think that exposed a lot of 236 00:12:03.600 --> 00:12:06.120 things and I think quite frankly, Belichick was one of them. 237 00:12:06.159 --> 00:12:10.039 You know, I think he's a great coach. I maintained 238 00:12:10.039 --> 00:12:12.960 that even last year, you know, going four and thirteen. 239 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:16.039 I never just said to myself, boy, this guy just 240 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:20.320 can't coach at all. I think that looking back, it 241 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:22.159 probably had a little bit more to do with Brady 242 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:25.440 than any of us thought at the time. But you 243 00:12:25.480 --> 00:12:30.080 can't just ignore it. Like the personnel decisions were awful, 244 00:12:30.799 --> 00:12:33.200 I think some of the free agent decisions were awful, 245 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:36.200 and you know, the decisions to let guys go and 246 00:12:36.840 --> 00:12:39.200 whatnot that weren't always the right ones. It's not an 247 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:41.320 easy thing to do what they did for twenty years. 248 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:43.600 You know, it sounds like we're beating them up now, 249 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:47.039 but what they did for twenty years is very hard 250 00:12:47.039 --> 00:12:49.840 to repeat. And you know, that's why people are looking 251 00:12:49.879 --> 00:12:52.720 at Kansas City right now, because you know what I mean, 252 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:54.799 they're on their way to about what a decade or 253 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:58.240 so of that, and they're not even halfway there. They're 254 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:00.879 not even halfway there to what the Patriots did. And 255 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:04.000 that's why I think people are so enamored with Andy 256 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:07.000 Reid and Patrick Mahomes right now, because they're wondering, can 257 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:11.879 they possibly do anything that would approach what Belichick. 258 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:14.399 And Brady did well. Andy Reid was a bust until 259 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:17.120 he got the quarterback, and so wasn't Belichick. All right, Paul, 260 00:13:17.159 --> 00:13:18.799 can you hang on? I got a couple more questions 261 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:19.039 for you. 262 00:13:19.679 --> 00:13:20.000 Sure? 263 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:23.200 Okay, Paul Parola joining us here from Patriots dot Com. 264 00:13:23.240 --> 00:13:25.559 You're on WBZ, Gary Tangwayne from Nightside. 265 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:29.639 Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World 266 00:13:29.720 --> 00:13:32.840 Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio. 267 00:13:34.399 --> 00:13:37.240 All right, Paul Parolo joining us here from Patriots dot Com. 268 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:40.440 Gary Tangway for Dan tonight. I want to talk about 269 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:44.200 Mayo the coach. And this is one of the benefits 270 00:13:44.200 --> 00:13:47.720 of not being in the media every day, Paul, is 271 00:13:47.759 --> 00:13:49.840 that I can sit there and say I want him 272 00:13:49.879 --> 00:13:53.559 to be the coach because I like him. I think 273 00:13:53.600 --> 00:13:57.600 he's a nice man. I love him. I love Gerard Mayo. 274 00:13:57.919 --> 00:13:59.679 I worked with him, you were you know, we all 275 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:02.240 worked with them out of you know, Comcast and an 276 00:14:02.360 --> 00:14:05.879 NBC Sports Boston. He's a wonderful person. He's a great guy. 277 00:14:06.360 --> 00:14:09.759 I want him to win. How long of it? How 278 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:10.879 long can he last? 279 00:14:12.120 --> 00:14:13.960 Yeah? So, I mean I think there's a lot of 280 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:15.759 suit to that. I think that we all sort of 281 00:14:15.879 --> 00:14:19.879 enjoy uh, you know, talking to him the processes is 282 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:22.960 much more enjoyable with him than it was with Bill. 283 00:14:23.399 --> 00:14:26.360 But ultimately, none of that's gonna matter. He can't coach, 284 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:30.519 and you know, I think that clearly, you know, the 285 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:32.679 Crafts have made a commitment to him, So you know, 286 00:14:32.840 --> 00:14:37.720 I think that it's you know, a ridiculous long shot 287 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:41.399 to expect him to be in trouble now. But how long, 288 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:43.720 you know, I don't know. If there's no sign if 289 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:45.720 we're sitting at this time next year and there's no 290 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:49.200 signs of improvement, then you're gonna you're gonna have some 291 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:51.759 decisions to make because you can't just keep going down 292 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:54.440 that road. But right now, I think that they believe 293 00:14:54.480 --> 00:14:57.200 in girod MAO. I agree with your assessment of him. 294 00:14:57.600 --> 00:15:00.960 From a personal standpoint. I enjoy sort of talking to 295 00:15:01.039 --> 00:15:04.159 him a little bit and covering him more so. But 296 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:08.159 bottom line is it's a results oriented business. He says 297 00:15:08.159 --> 00:15:11.080 it all the time, and if they don't start winning games, 298 00:15:11.600 --> 00:15:13.480 it doesn't matter how nice of a guy he is. 299 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:15.919 Well, I know that he was doing well in the 300 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:18.759 business world, did very well, and I know some people 301 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:20.919 that worked with him. He was working for various corporations, 302 00:15:20.919 --> 00:15:24.480 and when he went back as a coach, I wanted 303 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:26.759 to tell him, are you are of your mind? Are 304 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:30.399 you out of your mind? Because he was well on 305 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:33.080 his way to doing well financially in the corporate world. 306 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:35.360 I'm like, you're right, but it's a thing, you know, 307 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:38.200 it's a bug. They got to do it. But it 308 00:15:38.240 --> 00:15:41.559 seems to me he became head coach too early. I mean, 309 00:15:41.639 --> 00:15:43.000 this happened ahead a schedule. 310 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:46.559 Correct, Well, I think it did. And you know, our 311 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:48.960 buddy Tom Kurran has said that often that I think 312 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:52.120 that the plan was for Bill to stick around for 313 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:55.879 another year and then transfer it, you know that way. 314 00:15:55.919 --> 00:15:58.559 Maybe maybe if he had won enough games to have 315 00:15:58.919 --> 00:16:01.600 you know, gotten that record, then maybe they would have revisited. 316 00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:04.799 But the way that it all unfolded, I would say, 317 00:16:05.320 --> 00:16:06.919 is a year ahead of time, no question. 318 00:16:07.559 --> 00:16:09.679 So I don't know how we can judge him. And 319 00:16:09.759 --> 00:16:11.639 also what kind of control did he had him on 320 00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:14.200 hiring the staff, We don't know was it He is 321 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:18.159 called with the offensive coordinator. He often refers to the 322 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:21.039 offense as a whole, separate part of the team. He's 323 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:24.080 a defensive minded coach. He was a terrific player as 324 00:16:24.159 --> 00:16:28.200 a linebacker, but the defense sucks. And then you know, 325 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:29.960 some of my friends have been getting on the front 326 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:32.879 office and I'm like, look, chill on the front office here. 327 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:38.279 They've only had one draft. So I don't know how 328 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:41.159 you can judge Girod Mayo right now. I don't know 329 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:42.519 how you can't. 330 00:16:42.600 --> 00:16:45.440 Yeah, I don't. I mean, listen, it's one year in 331 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:47.519 and not even one full year in. But I mean, 332 00:16:47.519 --> 00:16:50.639 I will say the stuff that has happened so far 333 00:16:50.799 --> 00:16:53.080 is not overly promising, you know, and that starts with 334 00:16:53.240 --> 00:16:55.159 the off season. They had some money to spend in 335 00:16:55.240 --> 00:16:58.360 free agency, and they chose to spend the majority of 336 00:16:58.399 --> 00:17:02.279 it on resigning their own guys, and you know, I 337 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:04.519 think that you could question some of the moves that 338 00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:07.359 they made. And then you look at the draft, and 339 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:10.759 certainly Drake may looks you know, really promising is the 340 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:13.200 third overall pick, and then you'd be hard pressed to 341 00:17:13.240 --> 00:17:16.240 find another pick right now that falls into this promising category. 342 00:17:16.359 --> 00:17:20.359 So so far, you know, with Mayo and wolfs that, 343 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:23.039 you know, I don't think it's looked great. I think 344 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:25.759 that you look at the offensive line and realize they 345 00:17:25.799 --> 00:17:30.119 really didn't even attempt to sign a tackle, A left 346 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:32.359 tackle is you know, it doesn't exist on the roster, 347 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:34.920 So I think that was a misstep. So if you're 348 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:37.599 going to bring in a young quarterback and ask him 349 00:17:37.640 --> 00:17:41.279 to play but yet not really address the offensive line, 350 00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:43.319 I think there's a flaw in that approach. And we've 351 00:17:43.359 --> 00:17:46.640 seen it. You know, we saw it especially yesterday with 352 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:49.799 with the you know, with May running around, and we've 353 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:51.880 seen it a lot. He's run for his life and 354 00:17:51.960 --> 00:17:54.160 I think he's got seven starts now under his belt, 355 00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:58.400 and the vast majority of those he has spent avoiding 356 00:17:58.440 --> 00:18:00.599 pressure and trying to run around making plays with his 357 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:03.680 legs as much as he has with his arms. So yeah, 358 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:05.839 I mean it's one year. I'm not ready to pull 359 00:18:05.880 --> 00:18:07.799 the plug on it, but it hasn't been off to 360 00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:08.599 a promising start. 361 00:18:09.880 --> 00:18:13.240 Let's talk about May. The interception at the end of 362 00:18:13.279 --> 00:18:14.960 the game, Well, in the fourth quarter, I think with 363 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:17.480 about five minutes to go, looked like they maybe could 364 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:20.519 get back into the situation. Was very frustrating. But at 365 00:18:20.559 --> 00:18:22.240 the same time, the guy who was under attack all 366 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:23.880 day and he was just trying to make a play. 367 00:18:24.680 --> 00:18:26.720 Can we survive? I mean, look, it's obvious he can 368 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:30.000 be a good NFL quarterback, all right, and he's better. 369 00:18:30.440 --> 00:18:33.480 He's a good player. I think we all can see that. 370 00:18:33.920 --> 00:18:36.039 How good he's going to be I have no idea, 371 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:40.039 but he's a really good player. Can he survive the rebuild? 372 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:45.279 Yeah, he's I think he's certainly a very talented guy 373 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:48.599 who has the ability to make throws and make plays 374 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:51.880 at a high level. We've seen it already in bits 375 00:18:51.880 --> 00:18:54.720 and pieces. He's going to have to develop. He's going 376 00:18:54.799 --> 00:18:56.680 to have to cut down on the turnovers, you know, 377 00:18:56.720 --> 00:18:58.440 for sure. I think he's got twelve turnovers. 378 00:18:58.720 --> 00:19:00.440 Were letting him off the hook with that again, because 379 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:02.160 a lot of the times we'll say, well it's you know, 380 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:03.519 he's a rookie, doesn't have any help. 381 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:06.880 Yeah, So I would look at turnovers in different ways, 382 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:13.839 Like you know, yesterday the game, I thought the turnovers 383 00:19:13.880 --> 00:19:17.079 were irrelevant. Yesterday, as an example, they were down thirty 384 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:19.000 they were down thirty one nothing. They hadn't turned the 385 00:19:19.039 --> 00:19:19.640 ball over at all. 386 00:19:19.720 --> 00:19:21.680 Yeah, they couldn't stop anybody, you know. 387 00:19:21.640 --> 00:19:23.559 So they couldn't stop them, and they couldn't move the ball. 388 00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:25.799 They're in the fourth quarter, down thirty one nothing, they're 389 00:19:25.799 --> 00:19:30.519 no turnovers. So I just look at this as you know, 390 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:33.440 it's it's sort of part of part of the maturation 391 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:37.480 process for a young quarterback. He's got to learn, you know, 392 00:19:38.119 --> 00:19:40.359 late and you know they're in the second half. He's 393 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:43.880 desperately trying to fight to make plays. The stripsack can't happen. 394 00:19:44.039 --> 00:19:46.960 That's a bad, bad play by Drake May trying to 395 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:48.799 almost use a swim move with the ball in his 396 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:52.240 hand and going over the top. That's that's just recklessness 397 00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:54.400 with the ball. And that's not going to work at 398 00:19:54.440 --> 00:19:56.960 any level. So he's going to have to learn when 399 00:19:57.000 --> 00:20:00.000 he can and can't try to make those plays and try. 400 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:02.960 I don't not do too much. The turnovers are a problem. 401 00:20:03.039 --> 00:20:05.319