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want to like, I'm not even going to look amazing tonight.

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I love what you're wearing. Said, Oh my god, you're

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all I have an angry closs. That is life. But

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that's hard, like unless it's like an NBA team or

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Speaker 2: Whoa, hello, everybody, Welcome back to Holly Randall unfiltered. Before

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All right, So, my guest today, came up through studio work,

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built a fan site following, and somewhere along the way,

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became one half of a creative partnership that's changing how

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she thinks about filmmaking entirely. Ivy Ireland isn't just performing

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scenes anymore. She's creative, directing them and figuring out exactly

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what it means to make something real in an industry

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that doesn't always reward authenticity. Today we're talking passion production

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and why genuine connection might be the most underrated skill

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and adult. Please welcome Ivy Ireland to Holly Randall Unfiltered

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for her very first podcast.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Hi, I'm bossing my cherry. Oh my god,

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I love virgins. Oh yeah, thank you so much. Just

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take it easy on me, just.

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Speaker 2: Kidding, slow, okay, got it first, you get used to it.

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Speaker 1: Ease it in a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so you know, you came highly recommended to

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me through Jackie Saint James.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I adore, very wonderful director, very highly respected. Yes, if

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you haven't seen my episode with her, I've actually done too.

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I did an old one like way back in the day,

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and then a more recent one.

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Speaker 1: Go check it out.

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Speaker 2: Really interesting informative, great like behind the scenes look at

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the adult industry from a female director's point of view,

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which you don't get a lot of, yah, which is

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really nice.

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Speaker 1: Amazing scriptwriter, just an amazing person. What's your favorite thing

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about Jackie? Her humor, Like her dry humor is just

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like her ability to like just like you can say

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anything with her. Yeah, it's like she'll take it. And

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she's so witty, Like I just love quick witted people

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that you could just go back and forth with. Yeah,

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she's just genuinely like she'll feed it right back to you,

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and I love that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I also respect her too because she's real like no bullshit, yeah,

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you know what I mean. And she likes she's pretty

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has pretty strict boundaries. Is like I know that she's

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really strict on people being late. Oh yeah no she's not.

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There's no like screwing around on her set. Yeah, but

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she's like wanted, like it's an honor to be there

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with her, which makes it great, right, Like and I

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feel like, I mean, like we all would like everybody

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to conduct themselves professionally on set and be on time,

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The good thing about Jackie is like she's going to

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like that's just exactly what you want from a director

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because you know what you're expected to deliver. There's like

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no one between the lines, and so it's just like

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she's very cut and dry, like this is what we're

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and you're just like, I'm not sure what you want

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others sometimes yeah, And then it can be like discouraging

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scene and they're like, no, we're going to run it

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it's like, just tell me the first time and I'll

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like some critiques and everything, it's always okay, but like

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very like to the point her team is amazing. She's

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Speaker 2: All right, well, let's start with your story from the beginning.

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How did you end up in the adult industry.

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Speaker 1: My story, it's not like the most exciting. Like I

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had a crazy, a crazy entrance. I had a big

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following in my hometown from like going to the gym

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all the time and posting my workouts, okay, like a

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really big male following on my my personal Instagram, and

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whenever OnlyFans started to become kind of popular back in

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like twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, I decided that

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I would make one and just kind of do like

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provocative poses on my OnlyFans and so I started that

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started there, and I ended up somebody reached out to

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me actually and kind of scouted me and was like

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proposing all these things, Like I live back in Florida,

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I had never traveled across the country, and he was

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like proposing, like, oh, like I have these sites that

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you could definitely shoot for. They're a little they're like

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smaller companies, so they wouldn't give you much exposure if

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you don't love them.

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Speaker 2: And I just kind of so she kind of pitch

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it to you as like this can be your you know,

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dipping your toe in the water thing and if you

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don't love it. It's not like shooting for Browsers where

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you're gonna have all this exactly.

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Speaker 1: Like maybe back no one would know. Yeah, people wouldn't know. Yeah,

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course they have like their niche. Like people are definitely

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following backroom casting couch, but like it's not like it's

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not Browsers, it's not Vixen, Like I'm not like exposing

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myself to millions of people necessarily, so right, I was

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really against it. Actually for quite some time, I had

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like the comfortability to be sexual and to be on

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camera and to like expose myself that way, but it

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was just like the logistics with my job and like

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just traveling in general. I was like, there's no way

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you traveling back in a different career at the time, Yeah,

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yeah I have. I was a financial analyst for eight years. Wow,

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that is a completely different job. Yeah yeah. So I

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kind of like found myself just like really over the mundane,

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like repetitive bullshit of my job. It was super boring

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and that's definitely not my personality. I love to like

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have like a flow of change constantly. That's kind of

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why this industry really works for me, doing like mainstream

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like doing I'm doing one or the other. So that

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kind of really fits my personal personality type. But I

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was just I was finding myself, like you know, day

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by day, like just more and more mentally detached from

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my job. I had an amazing boss, but I just

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had to find something else, and so I don't know why,

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I'll do it. No, what I did was I did

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a live on my only fans once. Okay, I did

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a live on my only fans And at this point,

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are you even shooting news or just provocative like lingerie.

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I was doing nude like showering after the gym, and

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like I think I did like one like sucking a

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dildo and like my best friend would like help me

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and act like she was like a guy and like

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hold my head, like with the dildo in her pants.

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like she was a guy.

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and she would like do like a claw with her hands,

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her hand on my head. It's so funny too, because

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she's like the most holy Christian like woman. She's like

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she's by God like completely. And she was like, yeah, sure,

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I'll be girlt like just this I do. Was it?

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It was mine, but with the shit like can you

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hold can you hold? Help me film? And she was

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like let well. I asked her if she could help

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me film and once we tried it, we couldn't really

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get the right angle with it, like attached to a mirror.

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it for you, and she's like, I still have the video.

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just the dumbest video ever. But it did well. And

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then so I was just doing like small things like that,

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like nothing too. I wasn't just releasing any like boy

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girl sex types or anything like that. But I had

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like a good following because I had a good following

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on Instagram, and I would promote it like before you

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had any kind of bands or anything, any restrictions on Instagram,

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you know. And I was dating this guy who found

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me from that, and he wanted to shoot a lot

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of content, and so we started shooting content. I didn't

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really sell anything yet, and we went to Texas and

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I was just like, let's shoot alive. Let's like try

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to shoot alive and see how it goes. And I

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I was getting like all the thumbs up and all

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the positive feedback, I was like, oh, I'm actually really

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comfortable with this. I enjoyed it. I was a huge

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lever of porn growing up, like not even just like

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a lover, but just like a study or of porn.

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Speaker 2: What were some of your favorite Like did you have

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favorite stars he looked up to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like Natcho Videla, I love I haven't heard that

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name in a long time. Not to find out I

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loved him, like shame Diesel. I loved a lot of

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girls like me andml Covid, I loved I loved Riley

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Reid because she was just really herself and respectable. I

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of the big names that I really enjoyed a lot

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that I probably wouldn't admit too now because they're under

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a lot of fire in general, so I won't go there.

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was really sexual in myself and it kind of taught

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me to like elevate myself because I always just wanted

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to be like the best somebody had. And so I

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did the live. I really enjoyed it. So I texted

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the guy and I was like, hey, Okay, I'll be

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down to like do like a couple of days, like

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tell me what the logistics are, so that they flew

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me out to Arizona. I had like a girl girl,

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I had a boy girl.

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girl whatever, yeah yeah yeah. So they had me scheduled

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for like a girl girl and then a boy girl.

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the girl is like disgustingly sick, like she's like, howking,

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like so much congestion. She did a girl girl before

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super sick, and so I was like, Uh, what's gonna happen?

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she was so sick. And then the scene before the

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scene after that that was a boy girl. The guy

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got sick too, and so it ended up being my

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first scene ended up being backroom casting couch anal. I

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had never done an before, which, by the way, guys,

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if you need any help or like anything, don't ever

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do your first scene as an anal scene. Just in general,

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save it, really save it, Like I wish somebody had.

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I had the guidance to like not start with anal. Hindsight,

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it was nice because I really opened my eyes to it. Anyways,

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I'm gidding opened you up on I never did anal before.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, wait, hold back up myself, girl, No, no, no,

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I just I'm trying to wrap my head around. How

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did you go from being unable to do a boy

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girl with somebody because he was sick to having to do.

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Speaker 1: It was like scheduled. It was like a girl girl

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one day that got canceled that day because it was

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the girl got sick. Okay, the next day the guy

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got sick for my for my boy girl for the

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hot mills.

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Speaker 2: Fuck.

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Speaker 1: I ended up shooting that one again, or shooting that

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one after my anal scene, but it was supposed to

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be a girl girl gotcha?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so your anals had already been scheduled, yeah, as

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your third scene. Yeah, and it ended up being your first.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I thought you were saying that, like, because

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the guy was sick for some reason, you had to

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do anal.

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Speaker 1: That's the only medicine. I'm like, I got a fever

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the way I can perform it in your butt. No,

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So it ended up being that. And I had never

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even done ani before.

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Speaker 2: And okay, so what made you feel like did you

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think about did you think about the fact that you

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hadn't done before you were going to do it for

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the first time camera, Like my thoughts I.

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Speaker 1: Had, my thought process wasn't there. I was just committed.

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I was like, honestly, I'm just like i'n't committing. I

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was committed at that point, Like I was like, all right,

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like it is what it is, Like, I didn't come

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here for nothing. I'm going to do it. I wasn't

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so scared like I had seen the guy that does

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the backroom casting couches, Dick wasn't crazy bit. Okay. My

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makeup artist for the last two days was gay and

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so like the whole time I was just talking to

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him and like asking him for tips and tricks just

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on the anal sne because I was like, what the

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hell am I gonna do? I've never done that. So

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he literally brought me like plugs and stuff like on

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the second day so that way I could prepare. He

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was like, we're going to keep us in your butt

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while I do your makeup on Wednesday, and you're going

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to be really prepared for it. And I was like, okay, cool,

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followed all the rules. He was so amazing. I actually

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just saw him in Arizona recently and he was like,

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I did your first scenes and I was like, you say, like,

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you helped me so much, And in hindsight, he helped

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me like just in general to even enjoy sex more,

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not him necessarily, but like he definitely eased the door

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open for me, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,

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I mean, And I feel like you can go back

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and watch that scene of mine, like my first, my

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first backroom casting couch scene. I did two in that

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same week because I ended up like loving the anal

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so much that I requested a DP. I don't know

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what the hell's wrong. Dude, girl, don't do that. Don't

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do that. Save it another time.

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Speaker 2: You probably didn't know about, like the way the industry

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works and how you can charge more for your first time.

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Speaker 1: No, literally no, like when your age. There a plenty

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of time and the agent's not going to tell you

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because he's an agent. It wasn't even like he was

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just like a scouter.

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Speaker 2: He was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was just a scout. He gets like a shitty,

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a shitty commission from from getting girls like little Naives

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Sweet and the same girls to go there. Save your anal, savior,

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even if you love anal at home, save it for

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on screen, like hype it up, take your time, like

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you have time to figure it out, and hype it

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up until you can get a good rate for it.

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I just saw a girl get like five digits for

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a gang bang and she didn't even do anal. She

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got a five digit check for a gang and didn't

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even do anal, like save save your holes? Do that?

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Stay that? So Yeah, that's how I got to it.

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You have time for anal, people, save your holes. Save it.

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Just don't do it. Save the whales savior holes, Save

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the whales and save the holes. I don't know it's

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just okay. So like nobody told me, but you end

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not to do.

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Speaker 2: It, but you ended up walking through how the anal

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scene went because it's now this is your first scene ever,

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so like it's a double whammy.

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Speaker 1: It is a double whammy. What the director and the

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talent were both so amazing. There were so nice shout

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out to Met I love him so much. He was amazing.

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It was on like the shittiest little plaza where like

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it was like a shared a public bathroom, and so

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the only thing I didn't ask the makeup artist was

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like how to actually prep for it? Like and thankfully

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I asked the guy because I went in with like

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the enema like fool and he was like, I was like,

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do I just like put it in there and he

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was like yeah. He was like actually wait, dump it

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out and then fill it with water. He was like,

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don't give yourself, you know, don't obliterate your your intestine.

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So that was nice because that would have ruined the day.

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And so we're in like this little literally like a bit.

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It's like a back room in like an office where

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like they don't have ac on because it's Arizona and

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they I don't know, don't do room tone. It's like

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an old school kind of thing. But they do an

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interview like you're some naive girl they just picked up

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off the street and they just kind of coerce you

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into it, like obviously willingly. But is that how Yeah,

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that's like the narrative for that scene. I remember getting

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on all fours and like he puts the camera in

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my face. He was like, You're about to take a

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dick in your ass and I was like yeah, and

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he was like, when's the last time you took a

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tick in your us? And I was like the other day,

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like fully lying to myself because I was like, you guys,

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like let me just put the facade that I'm good.

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I was well prepped, So that made a huge difference. Yeah,

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we get going and I was okay, and then like

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you just see like the light bulb go off in

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my head and like the complete switch where like I'm

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just like losing it and I'm like, holy shit, Like

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sex was good before, but like this is amazing. I

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have goose. I was thinking about it because like that

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literally that changed my whole perspective on sex. Wow, learning

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that I loved anal sex I've always loved sex. I've

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always loved being freaky. I've always loved taking things to

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like the next level with my partners and like being

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a good pleaser. But then whenever I was like, oh,

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I could like really enjoy this myself, I came like

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over and over during that scene just from the anal.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And I just like I just whenever I picture my scene,

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like I picture like this clip of like me riding

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the guy, and I like look over out the camera

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and like you just see like sexy, like yeah, and

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like that, like they got me, they reeled me in.

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I was in. I loved the performance, I love the anal.

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Everybody was so amazing to me. It was like done,

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So wow, first scene you knew, yeah, amazing. I was in.

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And then where did your career go from there? From there,

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let's see, the same scout guy got me connected with

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my first agency and I started. It was like a

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really slow go because it was like October, November, December

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whenever I got started. And you know that that's like

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slow season for us in the industry because of like

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the holidays and everything, and it takes months for your

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first scenes to come out or for any scene to

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come out. In general, it takes time. So I started

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traveling back and forth every two weeks.

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Speaker 2: Now you're not doing your financial analyst job anymore.

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Speaker 1: I was a financial advisor, like not an advisor, sorry

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of financial analyst for a few months, maybe until like

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February March. But then my boss was not to get

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too personal. My boss was my boss had like a

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really high status within like the legal community, and I

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just didn't want him to have any like anything on

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the back end, like come bite him in the ass

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if anyone found out that his assistant was was doing porn.

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So we ended up parting ways. He was super supportive.

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I knew him for like ten years before, worked for

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him for eight years, and so we had like a

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good separation. But I just decided like, probably not the

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best to do the two and so I just went

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full commitment and I went every two weeks back and

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forth from LA to Florida shooting. I didn't shoot in

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Florida for quite some time. Actually was with my first

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agency for a year and changed to a new agency

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the next year. And yeah, it's kind of taken off

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from there. Wow, I think I've been in the industry.

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It was like October twenty twenty three, like two and

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a half years okay, a little over two and a

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half years.

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Speaker 2: Now, knowing like what you know now, is there anything

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you would have done well? I was gonna say anything

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you would have done differently at the beginning, but I realized,

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I think I know what it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have saved I would have saved it.

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But also no, because I honestly wouldn't be in the

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industry if I didn't do anal.

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Speaker 2: Because you wouldn't have gotten hooked the way you do.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have gotten hooked. And I I have like

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a very sensitive vagina. I don't know. Me and Jackie

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were just talking about it. She's like, maybe your pussy's

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like inverted or something. I don't know, because like I

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can only do like vaginal sex every so often. I

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have like mainly anal sex in my life in my

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personal life because I can just like handle I can

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do like two three scenes a day, like anal doesn't

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really matter. But like if I do like a vaginal scene,

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like I need to do it like every other day

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or so I know perform. Yeah, so what anals easier

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for them? Yeah? Exactly, So I wouldn't be you can

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like train your ass to like really endure, So I

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wouldn't be in porn if I I didn't do that,

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So I wouldn't say that that would be something that

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I did differently, maybe more like group activities, like to

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get more exposure because I am I do like to

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be personal and like create good connections with people. So

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I think that might have done me a little bit

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better at the beginning because I just naturally I'm kind

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of like a recluse and like I stayed to myself.

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So maybe I should have like pushed myself a little

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bit more to kind of get a little bit more

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exposure in the beginning. But I think we all have

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to stay the course and kind of wait until our

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name picks up. So yeah, yeah. Other than that, I

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don't really have any regrets for my What was.

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Speaker 2: The first like big studio scene that you did was

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like a really because you said that that was a

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back room casting couch kind of scenario when you first did,

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you know, scene that's like Vixen or Brawser's standard.

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Speaker 1: I would say my first big one that I did

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was for Mason for ex Empire, and that just kind

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of like fell into my lap because the one of

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the connections that I had the house that I was

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staying at, the guy had Mason shoots at his house

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all the time, and the girl had fallen like ill

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or something, and they had a cancelation, and so he

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like really pushed for me, and thankfully Mason took me

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because I was still really new. Definitely wasn't like up

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to ex Empire standard or like Mason standard by any means.

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Maybe a shot for like Tushi roll like in like October,

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like a year into my into my into my career,

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but other than that, it was just kind of like

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porn pros Team Ski, like you know, like the like

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New Biles kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: Tell me about co directing with your partner.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so my boyfriend, Vince Carter, he directs for quite

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a few companies for Porn World, Team Skate, what else

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her limit, And then he also does he submits to

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Evil Angel, and so he has like just his scenes

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in general that he does for Evil Angel. And then

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we've also started recently doing movies and I get the

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ability to create a direct on so that's really fun

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and what does that look like? So for that in general,

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we kind of uh you know, work together as far

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as like casting, location, script in like the whole the

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movie as a whole, co directing, and like learning the

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back end with him has been like really like learning

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like the technical way of it has been really helpful

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for my like career in front of the camera versus

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behind the camera too. So yeah, I get to like majority.

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In the beginning, it kind of started as like he

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came home, he saw this photo shoot that I had

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like planned for Valentine's Day, and like the vision that

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I had, and he was really impressed and was like,

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you have a talent. And I had always told him

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for like ages that I didn't feel like I'm a

478
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,039
creative person. I could never draw, Like I don't really

479
00:22:54,599 --> 00:22:58,119
like he like he draws rings and like makes rings himself,

480
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,079
like by him like molts them and does things like that,

481
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,519
and so like in my mind, I never really considered

482
00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:08,400
myself creative. But I guess like the in the mix

483
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,160
of like me finding like these inspirations and like bringing

484
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,960
them to life, that is creativity, and in like that

485
00:23:14,079 --> 00:23:16,240
kind of way, I just didn't consider it that way.

486
00:23:17,759 --> 00:23:20,640
And so he came home, saw my saw my photo shoot,

487
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,039
saw like the outcome of it and was like, this

488
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,559
will totally elevate my scenes. We have the ability to

489
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:31,279
spend like more and to really like elevate and not

490
00:23:31,519 --> 00:23:35,440
have what he was directing be so repetitive. And we

491
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,680
wanted to start submitting like really good DVDs to Evil Angel,

492
00:23:39,039 --> 00:23:42,799
So we just submitted our like our final scene for

493
00:23:42,839 --> 00:23:44,640
the first one that we did called back to Dark,

494
00:23:45,279 --> 00:23:48,000
and that one was amazing. It was with myself, Summer Vixen,

495
00:23:48,559 --> 00:23:52,640
Raven Alexa, and avian A Violet, and I wanted it

496
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,920
to be like really dark, like smoky, like Devil's back door,

497
00:23:57,039 --> 00:24:00,799
latex leather. So I got to decide the girls. I

498
00:24:00,799 --> 00:24:05,319
got to decide like the locations, make up, hair outfits,

499
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,200
all of that, all the fun stuff. Yeah, all the

500
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,200
fun stuff, And like I got to choose, like who

501
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,799
we choose for for makeup. There's a makeup artist. Her

502
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,359
name is Olia, and she's like.

503
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know, next level on a couple of

504
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,000
movies I produced.

505
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, she's just like I love her to death.

506
00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:23,279
She's next level. She like you can put anything in

507
00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:27,079
front of her and she will not only like absolutely

508
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,319
kill it, but she'll bring it. She'll bring it another

509
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,960
level up, so we use her and so yeah, that's

510
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,640
kind of what it looks like whenever, like we're I

511
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,240
don't necessarily I'm not a part of the actual scenes

512
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,039
for those ones a lot of the time, but I

513
00:24:42,079 --> 00:24:44,839
am like directing in the background, like choosing the poses

514
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,839
for the model, making sure that like the set looks

515
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,359
how I want it, and just all of the above,

516
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:50,400
all the back end of that.

517
00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really helpful to have somebody who can do

518
00:24:53,039 --> 00:24:55,799
that so you can like as a director focus on

519
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,240
other things because it's hard to.

520
00:24:57,519 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, to do all that stuff, and this is like

521
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,079
a one man show, like he like handles everything.

522
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 2: Like that's how like it is for most adult directors.

523
00:25:04,279 --> 00:25:07,119
People that in mainstream don't realize, like how much like

524
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,279
when you direct adult you're not just the director.

525
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: No, you're doing like you're doing the booking by you're

526
00:25:14,279 --> 00:25:17,400
doing the scripts, you're doing the clothes like you're doing

527
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,759
and then you have to manage the models when they

528
00:25:19,759 --> 00:25:22,200
get on set, and like you got to manage the

529
00:25:22,279 --> 00:25:26,240
videographer and the photographer, the lighting. Like so it's really

530
00:25:26,319 --> 00:25:27,799
nice that I get to come behind and be like

531
00:25:27,839 --> 00:25:32,119
helpful but also bring like another level of a pizazz too.

532
00:25:32,279 --> 00:25:35,799
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's how a woman's touch too. Yeah sure,

533
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,880
yeah yeah. You listen to authentic connection to something that's

534
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,400
really important to you in the industry. What does that

535
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,039
mean to you, like practically on set with fans, collaborators.

536
00:25:46,319 --> 00:25:49,839
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, authenticity and like creating connections. It's like really,

537
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,440
I genuinely like enjoy going on set and like making

538
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,880
good connections with people and like being my truest self

539
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,839
and like trying to like not like it's my job

540
00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:02,000
anything to like navigate like the day and try to

541
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,359
help everybody to have a good day, but I just

542
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:10,599
like enjoy like being there, having a good rapport, making

543
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,640
a good reputation for myself instead of like somebody that

544
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,400
care is like, oh, like this is my first this

545
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,079
is their first impression of me. I'm going to make

546
00:26:17,079 --> 00:26:19,839
sure that like they feel good about their experience with me,

547
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,599
like on their first day with somebody. I try to

548
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,440
have that, like every single time that I'm on set

549
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,359
with everyone, something that somebody told me, like, I always

550
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:27,759
try to like write it down and be like, oh,

551
00:26:27,759 --> 00:26:29,599
Ozzie told me, like she went on this vacation with

552
00:26:29,599 --> 00:26:31,400
her husband. I'll ask her about that. Next time I

553
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,319
see her, or like I'll bring like your favorite snack

554
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,920
just to be like I was thinking of you. Like

555
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,960
I just like have like these small things where like

556
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,000
I really do care about the people that I work with,

557
00:26:40,079 --> 00:26:42,400
and I really want us ault to have like a

558
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:47,079
good day, and I want people to be like excited

559
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,240
and like looking forward to having me on their set,

560
00:26:49,319 --> 00:26:51,599
rather than like some of some of the people that

561
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,279
we have on set sometimes that you're just like, Okay,

562
00:26:54,319 --> 00:26:56,079
I hope it's gonna go well, Like I hope, I

563
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,759
hope it's a good day for them. Like I just

564
00:26:57,839 --> 00:26:59,920
want people to like look forward to it and like

565
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,880
feel the love and like care that I have for them,

566
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,640
because like at the end of the day, I really

567
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,720
do enjoy my job and like as a whole, but

568
00:27:09,759 --> 00:27:13,400
I also like it's really taught me to come out

569
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,359
of my shell, and the people in this job are

570
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,200
like really the people that I'm on set with all

571
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,079
the time are like really amazing, and so getting to

572
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,039
know people and letting people know that I really care

573
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,119
not about just like making their like job and their

574
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,519
life easier for the day, but just like in general,

575
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:29,960
like I see you.

576
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,279
Speaker 2: Do you find it easier to connect with people in

577
00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:33,200
the adult industry.

578
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: I think so, because I think we all kind of

579
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,039
like have a guard down in general, because we see

580
00:27:38,039 --> 00:27:40,680
so much more of each other, and like there's like

581
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,759
what else, what else do you do? What else can

582
00:27:43,839 --> 00:27:46,759
you do? Like you're it's not just like like weather's

583
00:27:46,839 --> 00:27:49,680
nice today, Like no, like you're seeing my thest like

584
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,279
a force intimacy with the job. Yeah, yeah, like to no,

585
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,680
you and you have to you literally have to because

586
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,519
you can't just be like there's another level to it.

587
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,799
And yeah, it's definitely not like my old job, or

588
00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:02,559
like I would be at work with attorneys or like

589
00:28:02,559 --> 00:28:04,720
at lunch with an attorney and they'd be like, yeah,

590
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,079
well I had a really great round of golf on Sunday.

591
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,000
It's like no, no, it's more it's more connected.

592
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll never forget. I was at I think it

593
00:28:14,279 --> 00:28:18,680
was the xm A nomination party last year, and someone

594
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,640
brought a friend of theirs that was in the mainstream industry,

595
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,240
like the mainstream acting industry, and there was saying that

596
00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:30,759
the way that like the adult community was so seemed

597
00:28:30,759 --> 00:28:33,240
so bonded and people would see each other and be

598
00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:36,960
so genuinely excited to see everyone, and everybody seemed so

599
00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:39,160
comfortable with each other, and there was this lack of

600
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,960
pretense and like that Hollywood bullshit and everyone he's like,

601
00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:46,759
I've never seen this before, like this kind of openness

602
00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:51,480
and like this real authenticity with people's relationships. And I

603
00:28:51,519 --> 00:28:53,599
thought about that and I was like, that is so true,

604
00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:56,200
because it really does feel like like I do really

605
00:28:56,279 --> 00:28:59,079
love like everyone in this industry. I'm excited to see people.

606
00:28:59,079 --> 00:29:01,680
When I see them, it's always like exactly.

607
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm like completely, it's not even the point to like

608
00:29:03,759 --> 00:29:05,720
book me, like just to get the job. It's like

609
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,799
I'm going to miss you. I want to see you. Yeah.

610
00:29:07,839 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: And it's a small community too, write and you work

611
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,119
with a lot of the same cruise a lot because

612
00:29:12,119 --> 00:29:14,359
I know, like every director has their crews with the

613
00:29:14,359 --> 00:29:17,599
same people, so you really get to know people. And

614
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,559
it made me think about this time that I went

615
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,279
to like a Paris Paris Hilton's birthday party with a

616
00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:24,640
friend of mine who's a talent agent, and it was

617
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:30,839
so sterile and awful and like this typical Hollywood party

618
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,839
where no one talked to each other. Everyone was standing

619
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,279
in little groups and it was really like stiff and

620
00:29:36,319 --> 00:29:39,720
like people were like not enjoying themselves and they were

621
00:29:39,759 --> 00:29:41,359
like looking to see like who else was that.

622
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: It was really weird. I was like, this is a

623
00:29:43,599 --> 00:29:46,240
vibe I do not want, Yeah, versus us where like

624
00:29:46,279 --> 00:29:48,519
all of our walls are down. Yeah, it's like you see,

625
00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:52,359
you've seen and everything we're comfortable. That was definitely like

626
00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:54,880
a wall to get over for me too whenever I

627
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,720
first got into the industry, because I am so like

628
00:29:58,359 --> 00:30:02,359
reclose and like very just like to myself. But once

629
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,960
you're in it, like it's just it absorbs you. Like

630
00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:07,599
you're just like you're open and you're in and like

631
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,880
people see you and it doesn't matter, Like you're just

632
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:13,640
comfortable to be to. People accept you for who you

633
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,759
are exactly and it's really nice. Yeah, it's really good.

634
00:30:17,079 --> 00:30:17,559
I agree.

635
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,839
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Ivy. So you talk about balancing the

636
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,680
drive for your work. I mean, I think we've already

637
00:30:22,759 --> 00:30:26,799
established that you're a very driven person. You are literally

638
00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:29,279
all in balancing the drive for work with the freedom

639
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,559
that the work gives you.

640
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: How do you balance that, Like, how.

641
00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: Do you do a work life balance and do you

642
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,319
feel like you have a healthy work life balance?

643
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,559
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I would say for a period there. No,

644
00:30:44,319 --> 00:30:47,240
I would be like double booking myself for a day

645
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,240
and then like doing content after and just like driving

646
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,440
myself into the wall just because like I really do

647
00:30:53,559 --> 00:30:55,839
love working and like I didn't want to tell anybody now,

648
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,960
which I think it's like that's a balance that we

649
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,279
all have to find the boundaries. Yeah, it's like when

650
00:31:01,319 --> 00:31:04,799
to say when. But in the end, I've just like

651
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,440
I just I dedicate like four days to myself a

652
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,240
month now where I just don't do anything work related.

653
00:31:10,359 --> 00:31:12,799
My partner and I we always take like at one

654
00:31:12,839 --> 00:31:15,240
weekend to go do something, whether it's like out of

655
00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:18,400
state or not, like we'll drive to San Francisco or

656
00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:21,400
for example, we just came back from Tijuana. We always

657
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,799
take at least two days to go get out and

658
00:31:23,839 --> 00:31:27,839
go do something because especially like my home is also

659
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,359
my shoe house, so I'm like heavily inundated in my job.

660
00:31:32,839 --> 00:31:35,160
I do my job, my partner does my job. We

661
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,119
shoot my house like five times a week, so there's

662
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,640
like no escaping it. I don't have like my family

663
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,960
out here or anything. Everybody is back in Florida, so

664
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,359
I definitely had to find like like stop appeasing everybody

665
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,640
and like start taking some sometime for you, making me

666
00:31:51,759 --> 00:31:59,599
so nervous, like stop appeasing everybody and I make you.

667
00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:08,039
Speaker 2: But I have a very full cup of coffee here, and.

668
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,759
Speaker 1: I would spill it. I didn't take this outfit out

669
00:32:11,799 --> 00:32:14,319
of the package until I got here because I was like,

670
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,559
I'm bound.

671
00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: To screw it up. White such a dangerous color.

672
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm such a clumsy like mass, I'm gonna screw it up.

673
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,799
But yeah, So I've definitely like found my way to

674
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:31,119
to to like balance my my life outside of work,

675
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,640
and honestly, like the job gives me the ability to

676
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,599
do that I can't. Like I still do have like

677
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,440
double bookings and stuff sometimes, but it's like that's like

678
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,319
if like something I really really want to do, and

679
00:32:41,359 --> 00:32:44,720
like I'm just you know, I stopped taking I stopped

680
00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:49,759
doing uh collapse recently, which definitely has been a little

681
00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:52,480
bit of a breather. So that's been nice. So I've

682
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:57,400
definitely you know, found like my internal like wall where

683
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,039
I'm just like, Okay, this is where I can go

684
00:32:59,119 --> 00:33:01,480
and this is where I'm gonna not go. But my

685
00:33:01,559 --> 00:33:03,200
job gives me the ability.

686
00:33:02,839 --> 00:33:07,799
Speaker 2: To where are some ways that you personally unwind from things.

687
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: I love. I love to shop. I love to go shopping, okay,

688
00:33:13,359 --> 00:33:15,319
like after like a long day of work, like I

689
00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:18,119
will stop at them all and just like go buy

690
00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:22,119
myself some comfy cloak cozy clothes, like a nice lingerie set.

691
00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:23,039
I love to.

692
00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:26,759
Speaker 2: Read any favorite books or anything you're reading right now

693
00:33:26,759 --> 00:33:27,559
that you like.

694
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: They Chose Me by Luke Cooper is a good one

695
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,279
that I'm reading right now. I read a good friend's book,

696
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,480
Teddy Tarantino's book was good. I just love all different

697
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,880
genres of books. And I love history books too, like

698
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,200
I just like love like any like timeline of like

699
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,039
I like reading about the Holocaust. I like reading about wars.

700
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,000
Things that really happened are always exciting to me. I

701
00:33:47,079 --> 00:33:50,839
read one about Pearl Harbor recently. I just finished one

702
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,720
about how women got into aviation. That was nice.

703
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,799
Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah it really is the gam I'm reading

704
00:33:56,839 --> 00:33:57,759
Hail Mary right now.

705
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,519
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, how was it.

706
00:33:59,559 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 2: There's a lot of science, but I really like it.

707
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,759
Speaker 1: Oh okay, maybe I'll try it next.

708
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,559
Speaker 2: I mean, you know that it's like out in the

709
00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:07,200
theaters right now. It is like the number one movie

710
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,679
or something like that. With Yeah, my husband read it

711
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,239
first and he loved it and he recommended it to me,

712
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:17,519
and yeah, it's it's wild to me because there's so

713
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:19,880
much fucking science. There's chunks of it that I have

714
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,760
to skip over because I'm like, I don't understand.

715
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:22,679
Speaker 1: Any of this.

716
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like the relationship between him and the alien

717
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,079
is really fucking cool. Okay, it's really cool, and I've

718
00:34:31,079 --> 00:34:33,000
heard the movie is amazing too, so but I want

719
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:33,639
to finish the book.

720
00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:35,599
Speaker 1: You have to read this. Yeah, that's like we really

721
00:34:35,599 --> 00:34:38,039
want to go like watch Dune and Dune too, but

722
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:39,960
this is like I have to finish the book first.

723
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, very much.

724
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: And those books are really big, they're so big. Yeah,

725
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,360
but every time we travel, he like brings it along

726
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,960
with him, like he's going to read it, and I'm like,

727
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,000
you're not going to read it. You're not going to

728
00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:50,679
finish this.

729
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 2: I bring my book to the bath because I'd love

730
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,440
to take baths, and I put it like next to

731
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,800
the bath. But then I bring my phone.

732
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: Yeah I did this.

733
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: Last night and it ended up on my phone working

734
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:03,800
and then like I've been sitting in the bath for

735
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:04,800
like forty minutes.

736
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the water's gold.

737
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I guess I'm not going to read

738
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:08,280
my book.

739
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,639
Speaker 1: I do that, but then I'm like I'll forget, like

740
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,880
not to get my fingers wet for the first little bit,

741
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,039
and then I'll get them one I'm like, I can't

742
00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:19,760
read in here, just like to do that. What else?

743
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,360
I just like traveling is like, honestly, that's like kind

744
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,559
of like the whole purpose of me getting into this

745
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,119
job outside of just like my love for it in general.

746
00:35:27,199 --> 00:35:29,519
But like, I love to travel and I love to explore.

747
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: Where are some of your favorite places that you've been.

748
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: My most recent one that I absolutely it's the best

749
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,360
trip that I've ever done was India. I did the

750
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,840
Golden Triangle. I did Deli, Japor and Agraa, and that

751
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:47,039
was like the most eye opening, amazing, beautiful, best food,

752
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,760
Like I got these bumps. I loved all of it.

753
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,800
It was amazing. We just decided to be like super immersive,

754
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,239
so we went to like all the amazing like temples,

755
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,679
but then we also did like slum tours and we

756
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,280
went in too, like old Deli where no tourists to go,

757
00:36:01,519 --> 00:36:04,920
and just really got to experience like life there, you know,

758
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,320
as much as we could. But it was really it

759
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:08,000
was amazing.

760
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 2: Was there a strong contrast between life there and here

761
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,639
in America? And did it give you perspective?

762
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,039
Speaker 1: One million percent? It's polarizing. It's absolutely polarizing.

763
00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: There.

764
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: You see like some of the absolutely like most beautiful

765
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,599
structures and things and people that you'll ever see in

766
00:36:24,639 --> 00:36:27,079
your life, but then you also see like the true

767
00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:29,079
hardships of the life that they have there. I would

768
00:36:29,159 --> 00:36:33,639
say that compared to what I learned about like India

769
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,880
like years ago, they definitely are progressing. They're definitely getting

770
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,559
more modernized, so that is amazing to see. But it's

771
00:36:40,639 --> 00:36:45,280
still it's packed full of people there, and there's you

772
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,760
know a lot of places without electricity and people are working,

773
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,400
like fighting tooth and nail for work. It's just there's

774
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,400
a lot of places that are really tough, but also

775
00:36:56,039 --> 00:36:57,920
the toughest places that we were at were like the

776
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,960
nicest people that we had met there. So it's just

777
00:37:00,199 --> 00:37:02,920
like you get the contrast. It's amazingly eye opening, and

778
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,400
it's like you really find a new appreciation for your

779
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,000
life whenever you visit places like that. And I feel like,

780
00:37:08,039 --> 00:37:12,639
if you can visit somewhere like that and really appreciate

781
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:17,039
it and really enjoy it, like you can go anywhere.

782
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,480
You can go anywhere. And I also learned. I don't

783
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,840
know if I could say that taking a Xanax on

784
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,159
a long flight does for you. Yeah, I can go anywhere.

785
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,679
I never took ax to go on a flight, and

786
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,719
that was like thirty hours of travel and I was

787
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,920
dreading it. Took a little Xanax and I was done.

788
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,960
So did you sleep the whole time? I slept the

789
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,960
whole time we landed, and I was like, I could

790
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,480
sleep more. Guys, hold on, it was so nice. That

791
00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:42,639
was so nice. Yeah, because that is a long trip.

792
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was so much.

793
00:37:44,639 --> 00:37:45,519
Speaker 1: It was so much.

794
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,199
Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about some advice for the

795
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,880
gentleman out there. Oh, no things they want to know.

796
00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:55,400
Any advice would you give to men to be a

797
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:56,480
better lover?

798
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,159
Speaker 1: Communication is key, Like not to one of us are

799
00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:02,400
the same, just like not like every guy is not

800
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:07,199
the same either. I would say some issues that I've

801
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,360
run into in my personal life in the past is

802
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:15,639
like giving any guidance or like perspective from my end

803
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,000
was often met with like an insecurity or like them

804
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:23,239
thinking that I was attacking them personally, like as if

805
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,000
they were not doing something enough or they were not

806
00:38:25,039 --> 00:38:29,039
doing something correctly, when in reality it's more coming from

807
00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:31,559
like a guidance place where it's like I would be

808
00:38:31,639 --> 00:38:33,800
met with like a wall of like well it worked

809
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,079
from all of my other exes, and like they'd be

810
00:38:36,119 --> 00:38:41,360
like really defensive about it. But I would say, be

811
00:38:41,519 --> 00:38:47,000
open minded and like seek out the communication because there's

812
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:50,639
you're never going to have like the wrong conversation whenever

813
00:38:50,679 --> 00:38:54,639
it comes to pleasing your partner, finding like their peak,

814
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,119
finding their niche, finding what does it for them.

815
00:38:57,159 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 2: Because everybody's different.

816
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: Everybody is so different and like and also understand like

817
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,599
things progress, things change, Like I hate things now that

818
00:39:06,639 --> 00:39:09,119
I loved in the past, like with the same partner

819
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:12,039
that I have now, Like things absolutely change, people change

820
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:17,000
and just come to come like face it in a

821
00:39:17,039 --> 00:39:19,360
way like that you would really want somebody to understand

822
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,480
what you like, like you would if you didn't want

823
00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:23,760
somebody to come and like jerk your dick off to

824
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,639
the point like they're like giving you rug burn on

825
00:39:25,679 --> 00:39:27,960
your dick, like and you would want to communicate that

826
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:31,320
like expect the same back and forth. I would just say,

827
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,039
like not taking things personally that could go a long

828
00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:37,079
ways long long ways.

829
00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:40,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyone in particular that you look up to in

830
00:39:40,199 --> 00:39:41,320
the industry besides.

831
00:39:41,079 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: Jackie, let's see, besides my partner, besides Jackie Mason hard X.

832
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:54,119
I absolutely love her drive. She is so meticulous, she's

833
00:39:54,119 --> 00:39:58,519
so particular. I think she gets I think it's a

834
00:39:58,519 --> 00:40:02,559
little people struggle with that with her sometimes because she

835
00:40:02,679 --> 00:40:05,199
is so direct and like harsh because of what she wants.

836
00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:07,480
But I think that that really works in her benefit

837
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:10,880
because the passion is like there with her scenes. She

838
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,880
knows what she's talking about, she knows what she wants,

839
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,320
and I think that her work is really admirable for that.

840
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,320
She's extremely passionate. She is not one of the directors

841
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,000
that is just getting like lost in the social media

842
00:40:25,039 --> 00:40:27,920
and the nonsense of what porn is these days, and

843
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,920
like she's seeking out the passionate moments.

844
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: And like it's funny because I saw that, Like she's

845
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,599
known to be recluse is the wrong word, but like

846
00:40:36,639 --> 00:40:39,159
she doesn't show her face, she doesn't do interviews and

847
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,599
stuff like that, because people have asked me to interview

848
00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:42,239
her before.

849
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,519
Speaker 1: And I was like, she's not going to not going

850
00:40:43,559 --> 00:40:44,440
to do but no, no, no.

851
00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:48,519
Speaker 2: I saw her like join Twitter, yeah, and like everyone

852
00:40:48,599 --> 00:40:50,639
was freaking out. And I don't know if she's posted

853
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,679
like since she joined a few times.

854
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,559
Speaker 1: Yeah she has. I'm like texting her all the time.

855
00:40:54,559 --> 00:40:57,119
I'm like, Mason posts like three times a day, give

856
00:40:57,119 --> 00:40:58,920
me your log and I'll do it for you, Like

857
00:40:59,079 --> 00:41:03,039
do it. She'll got access to the ex empire Twitter now,

858
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,400
so like that's nice because her work can actually have

859
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,360
like some visibility because they were crap on Twitter for

860
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,679
so long posting their stuff. It's kind of social media

861
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:12,480
is so much work.

862
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean speaking from somebody who you know, started

863
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,679
from like social media, right, like that's where you grew

864
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,719
your audience to even start in the industry.

865
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, just by luck. Though It's not like I had

866
00:41:25,039 --> 00:41:27,079
any idea what I was doing, And it's like it's

867
00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:30,239
different whatever you're actually like a creator, when you're a

868
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,320
real creator. I just had like gooners that liked watching

869
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,159
my my my rdls like with my butt cheeks opening,

870
00:41:37,199 --> 00:41:39,719
and like it just happened upon me. But it's different now,

871
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,199
and especially for somebody that's not familiar like with the

872
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,079
ways of technology. Like no, it's definitely not it's I

873
00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:47,800
don't think it's what Mason wants to do in her

874
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,360
free time, is they're so yeah, but yeah, Mason is

875
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,639
absolutely somebody like up to and another one would be

876
00:41:52,679 --> 00:41:56,679
Johnny Darko. He is incredible. He's incredible to work for.

877
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,880
He's similar where he's very like this is what I want,

878
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,280
this is what we're gonna get, and he's very admirable

879
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,320
for that as well. I love working for him as well.

880
00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:06,159
Speaker 2: What do you think is the best scene that you've

881
00:42:06,159 --> 00:42:07,559
shot so far in your career?

882
00:42:07,679 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: I shot a scene recently with Mason where it was

883
00:42:12,199 --> 00:42:16,400
like we would do like she's just she's so collaborative

884
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,519
with her work and so it's really amazing because we're

885
00:42:18,519 --> 00:42:21,880
both really anal and meticulous about what we're doing. And

886
00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:25,800
so I shot this scene with her with Zach Wild

887
00:42:26,159 --> 00:42:30,480
where I was like in late a lateech suit and

888
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,679
we did it like near this like bowling pin alley thing,

889
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,639
and we got really creative and like after every take

890
00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:38,320
that we took, like we would go and we would

891
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,719
run like back to the camera review and just be

892
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,679
like like gawking at like the work that we had

893
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,400
just done because it was so creative and it was

894
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,440
so collaborative, was amazing. That one's not out yet. It's

895
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,039
actually out this month in June, so have a lookout.

896
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 2: For that one, okay.

897
00:42:52,559 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: And then another one that's also not out that's coming

898
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,199
out in a month or two is my double Antal

899
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,679
penetration that I did this year, which was like a

900
00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:04,000
feat for me. I had always like whenever I watched

901
00:43:04,039 --> 00:43:06,679
porn growing up, like it always had to have anal

902
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,559
in it. Before I even knew I loved Danel, I

903
00:43:08,559 --> 00:43:12,719
loved Danal, and so I used to love watching double

904
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:17,480
Anal porn and it was like really something that was

905
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,360
like I needed to like knock it off my belt.

906
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,079
And I just decided one day, like it was like

907
00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:24,559
the beginning of the year. I was like, what's going

908
00:43:24,639 --> 00:43:26,119
to be one of my goals this year? And so

909
00:43:26,159 --> 00:43:30,039
I wrote on Twitter DAP twenty twenty six question Mark,

910
00:43:30,039 --> 00:43:32,480
and Johnny Darko texted me like ten minutes later he

911
00:43:32,519 --> 00:43:35,039
was like, I would love to shoot your DAP, and

912
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:37,920
so again he's very collaborative and like gives you the

913
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,920
reins on that Latex oil was with Vincent Hollywood Cash,

914
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,119
and it was an amazing scene like just whenever you

915
00:43:46,199 --> 00:43:49,519
have like the comfortability with a director and you have

916
00:43:49,559 --> 00:43:53,159
the trust you can really bring something really fun to life,

917
00:43:53,199 --> 00:43:54,199
like whenever you're just.

918
00:43:54,119 --> 00:43:56,559
Speaker 2: Like you're was that your first time doing double anal?

919
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? Everything first on the Yeah, yeah yeah, And I

920
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,519
was like, honestly, I thought it was going to be easier.

921
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,280
I thought it was a lot easier. I started. I

922
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,800
was training with just like really big dildos, but like

923
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,679
big dildos don't move different ways simultaneously inside of you,

924
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,880
and so I don't know. I had Vince and Vince

925
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,360
warm me up with like another dildo, like as I

926
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,840
was getting ready for the scene, and like I was

927
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,559
really nervous, like shoulders up to my ears, like as

928
00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:28,079
I was getting ready, and I was like what did

929
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:32,559
I get? What did I set myself up for? But

930
00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:34,440
like as Vince was helping warm me off with the

931
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,199
second doljo, I came and I was like, oh, I

932
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,039
got it on the back And it ended up being

933
00:44:41,079 --> 00:44:43,719
really really amazing, and like I know, Darko made me

934
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,519
like the best he could make me look. And I

935
00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:48,679
had two great performers, so again not out yet, but

936
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,679
those two are like I'm really proud of them and

937
00:44:51,679 --> 00:44:54,880
I can't wait to see them, Oh see, it sucks.

938
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 2: Slot What do you say to people who claim that

939
00:44:59,039 --> 00:45:02,280
porn is harm full, addictive and needs to be eradicated.

940
00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:04,599
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's two sides of the spectrum there,

941
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,039
don't you think, like there are people that definitely abuse porn,

942
00:45:08,519 --> 00:45:11,320
but then there's also a side there that's, like it's

943
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,519
the same as movies. It's just like something to do

944
00:45:13,559 --> 00:45:16,280
in passing. It's something that people do to enjoy themselves.

945
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:21,199
Just depends on depends on the way you view it. Honestly,

946
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,679
I'm not in this work to like change anybody's mind

947
00:45:23,679 --> 00:45:26,440
about how they absolutely about how they feel about it

948
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:31,079
one way or another. I don't think that's my job,

949
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:35,679
And I don't think that that me or like Susie

950
00:45:35,679 --> 00:45:37,920
next door, is going to change the view of like

951
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,880
somebody that's really like hard on the rock about being

952
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anti porn. I understand it from some spectrum because I

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think porn in some ways has affected some people's lives

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in a negative way. And I can understand that in

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one way. But I also understand that like we're allowed

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to have the freedom and creativity and ability to like

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be ourselves and that it's natural and that it's performative

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and to understand it from that from that side of

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the wall is true too. I think two things can

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be true at one time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, here's the thing. It's like I you know,

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I always think about in this term because this is

963
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definitely like personal to me. Anything can be bad for you, Yeah,

964
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exactly right, Like we all have compulsive behaviors. Anything that

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fires that dopamine receptor in our brain we can abuse.

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And for me, so I'm a recovering alcoholic with like

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almost eight years of sobriety.

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Speaker 1: Congrat thank you, alcohol is very bad for me. Yeah,

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exactly that.

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Speaker 2: Alcohol is very bad for a lot of people. But

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alcohol is also fine, and it's easy for a lot

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of people. And most people can drink alcohol in a

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responsible way. They can have fun with it, and they

974
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can not abuse it. Just because I have a problem

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with alcohol and other people people like me have a

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problem with alcohol doesn't mean that it should be eradicated

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from the face of society now with all of our

978
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own demons that we have to fight, yep. And because

979
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also the problem is too is when you take something

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that people genuinely want, People genuinely want porn exactly, people

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genuinely want alcohol, and.

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Speaker 1: We saw what happen with prohibition that didn't go too well. Yeah, exactly,

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that exactly that drive it underground.

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Speaker 2: You make it a you know, a criminal enterprise, and

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you make it incredibly unsafe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So people are like demonizing one thing and like

987
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worshiping others that are like ten ten million times worse

988
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for you. It's just it's subjective. It's honestly, I can

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see it from both sides of the spectrum. I definitely

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try to be like more biased whenever I'm looking at

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things in that manner, because I do understand like a

992
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wife that like her husband like definitely like detached from

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their marriage because he has an insane porn addiction. Like,

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I can understand why she would view porn as like

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the end of the world, the end all be all

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for her life, and I would never argue that with her,

997
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you know, I would completely understand that. But I also

998
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know that porn has given me the freedom to live

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the life that I live and that I myself genuinely

1000
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enjoy it, and so I'm not going to demonize it

1001
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from my side. But I'm also not going to shove

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my views down somebody's throat there either. You know then,

1003
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yeah girl, yeah.

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Speaker 2: All right, those are all my questions. Yeah, I know,

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I went by so quickly because you just had so

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much fun.

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Speaker 1: Ah yeah that was good. Thank you. You definitely eased

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me into it. Yeah did I did?

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Speaker 2: I pop your Jerry and you're ready for a double

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podcast next?

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Speaker 1: Yeah girl? Yeah? Girl?

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Speaker 2: Can you tell everyone where they can find you online?

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Speaker 1: Please? Sure? You could find me on Instagram and Twitter

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at ivy Ireland X, and you can find my only

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fans at IVY Underscore Ireland. Thanks so much, guys.

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Speaker 2: I hope you enjoyed it, and you guys can find

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me on Instagram and on X at Hollewen Randall. If

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