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<v Speaker 1>At seven thirty fifty five carcy De Talk Station, A

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<v Speaker 1>very happy Wednesday to one hour from now Judge Annapolitano

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<v Speaker 1>on the Trump, the war, and the Constitution the meantime.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the fifty five Caarasy Morning Show. It's

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<v Speaker 1>also players. They have Ken cob Or FOP president for

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<v Speaker 1>the CINCINNT Police Department, on to talk about matters related

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<v Speaker 1>to the police. Ken, welcome back. It's good to have

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<v Speaker 1>you on this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, good morning, Brian, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Local development in the eighteen year old Ryan Hinton we

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<v Speaker 1>was shot after fleeing a stolen vehicle with a firearm

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<v Speaker 1>in his hand. Hamilin County Prosecutor County Pillage said yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>it was justified. And I know the Clinton family or

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<v Speaker 1>Hinton family rathers does not agree with that, but prosecutorial discretion.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently she looked at all the evidence and said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was reasonable for him to fire on Hinton because

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<v Speaker 1>he was carrying a firearm and was waving it around

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<v Speaker 1>at him. Your response to this, I presume you were

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<v Speaker 1>pleased with the outcome.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, without a doubt. I mean, this was something that

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<v Speaker 3>we fully expected was coming. I wish it would have

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<v Speaker 3>been sooner. But I also understand that, you know, Prosecutor

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<v Speaker 3>Pillach is new at her job, and you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>glad that she took the time to look at all

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<v Speaker 3>the evidence and came to the same conclusion I think

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<v Speaker 3>everybody else is going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, she had things to like attend to protest over

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend, so you know, you got to give her

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<v Speaker 1>some time to get her politics out.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not touching. That not a good look, You're not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's certainly not a good look.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So this, obviously the my understanding is the officer is

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<v Speaker 1>back on the job. Never been named, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>pleased that they didn't name him because we all know

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<v Speaker 1>in this modern world with doc seeing and attacks on

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<v Speaker 1>members of you know, elected officials and others, that this

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<v Speaker 1>officer certainly could have faced a lot of that. So

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<v Speaker 1>the officer is back at work, is that correct?

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<v Speaker 3>That's correct. I talked to the officer probably three times

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<v Speaker 3>this week about some of these things that are going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Back to work doing well. I think this is probably

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a step in the right direction to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to kind of be able to move on

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<v Speaker 3>with the rest of their career in life.

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<v Speaker 4>And this kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose it's impossible for anyone who has not been

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<v Speaker 1>involved in a situation where their life is in jeopardy,

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<v Speaker 1>where someone is standing who obviously is at least at

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<v Speaker 1>least by all evidence, appears to have been engaged in

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<v Speaker 1>criminal conduct. To start, they were in a stolen vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>and they were fleeing the law enforcement officers who and

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<v Speaker 1>you correct me if I'm wrong, we're ordering them to stop, halt,

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<v Speaker 1>don't run away. That the adrenaline flow, the rush and

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<v Speaker 1>all that. This use of deadly force is judged by

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<v Speaker 1>a reasonableness standard. Is a person in that position reasonably

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<v Speaker 1>justified in using deadly force given what they're facing? And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I guess this is one of the dangers

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<v Speaker 1>of being in law enforcement. Not only are you faced

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<v Speaker 1>with this in a higher percentage of circumstances. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys got to have to worry about this all

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<v Speaker 1>day long. But when public outcry and the whole era

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<v Speaker 1>of defund the police and the police are a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of races. Kind of a mindset that somebody have out there,

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of have that going through your head too.

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine you like a hesitance that may result in

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<v Speaker 1>you losing your own life.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, you know you hit the nail on the head.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's what a reasonable officer would do at that time.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not there's nothing that says that, you know, this

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<v Speaker 3>person has to have shot at you, has to have done,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, pointed a gun at you, all these things,

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<v Speaker 3>even though in this case it was clear that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>People get caught up in that. Well he was shot

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<v Speaker 3>in the back. Well he wasn't shot in the back.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's nothing that says that a policeman can't shoot

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<v Speaker 3>somebody in the back. You know, the law is very

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<v Speaker 3>very clear. It's what a reasonable person would do in

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<v Speaker 3>that situation. I think any reasonable person if they have

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<v Speaker 3>somebody that's running towards them with a gun and points

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<v Speaker 3>it at them as they're running by, that is an

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely reasonable response is to protect excuse me, to protect.

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<v Speaker 4>Yourself, particularly a couple.

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<v Speaker 1>Since there were police officers there too for the purposes

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<v Speaker 1>of arresting them because they were in a stolen vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they you know, you can project onto what

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<v Speaker 1>they might be thinking, the criminals.

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<v Speaker 4>The the the the people who stole the car.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, the police are there I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>get into trouble, and the reaction may be I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>shoot at him, I'm gonna defend myself, I'm gonna try

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<v Speaker 1>to get away. I mean, that's all factored into the

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<v Speaker 1>whole mix of emotions that you must use a split

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<v Speaker 1>second in order to make a determination. It's it's overwhelming,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wish more people would contemplate that, well, you're.

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<v Speaker 3>The reality is that the people that are saying that

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<v Speaker 3>this isn't justified are the same people that take absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>no accountability for anything, no accountability for their actions for

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<v Speaker 3>anybody else's because they're all saying, well, yeah he was

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<v Speaker 3>in a stolen car, and yeah he had a gun,

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<v Speaker 3>but and.

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<v Speaker 2>There is no butt.

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<v Speaker 3>When you run around with the police with a gun,

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<v Speaker 3>you should expect that you're going to be shot.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really that simple.

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<v Speaker 1>That simple FOP president can cover hold you ever, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk a couple more minutes after I make a quick

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<v Speaker 1>word or two for my friends at cover. Since he

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<v Speaker 1>who are going to be your friends too, you reach

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<v Speaker 1>out to cover, since he with no obligation, no money

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<v Speaker 1>is paid, no money's exchange. Let them look at where

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<v Speaker 1>you are in terms of medical insurance and even dental

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<v Speaker 1>and vision and come up with a better way. They're

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<v Speaker 1>working for you, not in the insurance companies. They work

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<v Speaker 1>with insurance companies and thousands of different policies under hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of different insurance companies. So they're shopping around to find

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<v Speaker 1>the best possible package of insurance for you, and by

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<v Speaker 1>doing so they can save you heap loads of money.

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<v Speaker 1>And my neighbors Tommy and Nancy took early retirement. They

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<v Speaker 1>were on Cobra paying through the nose. He saved them

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<v Speaker 1>I think more than five hundred dollars a month. I

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<v Speaker 1>regularly mentioned my friend Jeff, small business owner illustration small businesses.

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<v Speaker 1>You know your employees may not even want medical insurance because,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I can't afford nine thousand dollars out

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<v Speaker 1>of pocket. How about getting better employee retention by providing

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<v Speaker 1>them with insurance they can actually afford cover Since he

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<v Speaker 1>get the benefits of them all throughout the period of

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<v Speaker 1>Since he let them iron it out for you. John

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<v Speaker 1>Seven thirty nine fifty five KRCIT talk station Brian Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>with fo KEY President Ken Kober talking about the officer

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<v Speaker 1>involved shooting Ryan Hinton no longer with us, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>his father ended up going and going after a sheriff's

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<v Speaker 1>deputy ran him over and killed him. Completely different scenario though,

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<v Speaker 1>but Helin County Prosecutor Countie Pillage said, no, he is

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<v Speaker 1>cleared of any wrongdoing. He was appropriate in his use

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<v Speaker 1>of deadly force, so there will be no nothing going

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<v Speaker 1>to the grand jury. The Hinton family obviously not real

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<v Speaker 1>thrilled about this. They lawyered up and they're threatening a

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<v Speaker 1>civil lawsuit. Check me if I'm wrong, though, can Kober?

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<v Speaker 1>Under the current state of the law, officers are immune

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<v Speaker 1>from liability in connection with damages or injury incurred while

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<v Speaker 1>they were doing their job. Coupled with the prosecutor's recommendation

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<v Speaker 1>that no crime had been committed, here sounds to me

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<v Speaker 1>like they're in a pretty damn shaky ground. Your reaction

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<v Speaker 1>to the idea of a civil lawsuit, who would they

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<v Speaker 1>go after?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the million dollar question is who are you

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<v Speaker 2>going to go after?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the officer was deemed by the prosecutor to

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<v Speaker 3>have acted reasonably. He didn't violate any policies or procedures,

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<v Speaker 3>so underqualified immunity. When an officer acts reasonably and they

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<v Speaker 3>follow the law, they're immune from any liability.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe they're going to sue the city and hope that

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<v Speaker 3>the city settles them. Settles like they do with just

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<v Speaker 3>about everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that will be a shame, be almost an admission

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<v Speaker 1>of liability by the city that they shouldn't. They should

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<v Speaker 1>fight that. That's what our taxpayer dollars are there for

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<v Speaker 1>it was reported in I guess Fox nineteen's Mary Labas

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<v Speaker 1>reported and it doesn't matter where the information came home.

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<v Speaker 1>But apparently in addition to announcing this possible loss, that

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<v Speaker 1>the lawyer said that he has access to information that,

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<v Speaker 1>in his words, has not been made public regarding the

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<v Speaker 1>officers who are at the scene of the shooting that day.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't go into any detail about what that information is.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't suppose you have any concept or idea what

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<v Speaker 1>they're talking about. But if there were other officers there

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<v Speaker 1>who were not involved in the shooting, what difference does

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<v Speaker 1>it make what they have regarding those officers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, it's funny because if he had this information

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<v Speaker 3>that's secret, why would they have not turned it over

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<v Speaker 3>to the prosecutor's office for them to examine.

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<v Speaker 4>Ooh good point.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I don't. I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't buy any of that smoking mirrors that that

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<v Speaker 3>they're trying to put out to the public.

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<v Speaker 1>Now sens the Jenna public unrep over the whole thing,

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<v Speaker 1>which I suppose may very well happen in these shaky

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<v Speaker 1>times in which we live. So update on police morale,

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<v Speaker 1>it looked like the city council was planning on doing

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<v Speaker 1>what I believe you were calling for, is getting some

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<v Speaker 1>lateral hires in to deal with the waxing numbers of

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<v Speaker 1>or waning numbers of police officers on the CINCINNT Police Force.

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<v Speaker 1>Last time we talked, I mean, it's kind of frightening

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<v Speaker 1>current contingent.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, just lateral class that the city's apparently

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<v Speaker 3>going to pass in their budget is certainly a step

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<v Speaker 3>in the right direction, you know, but this is something

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<v Speaker 3>that's likely going to have to be done every year,

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<v Speaker 3>coupled with our traditional academy to be able to get

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<v Speaker 3>our numbers back to.

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<v Speaker 2>Where they need to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that they were doing three academies over the

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<v Speaker 1>next several years at fifty per academy. But given the

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<v Speaker 1>attrition rate that you brought up here in the morning show,

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to kind of probably keep you at static

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<v Speaker 1>levels unless they do get a sufficient number of lateral

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<v Speaker 1>classes exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, in these lateral classes are officers that

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<v Speaker 3>are already trained. They're experienced officers that you can do

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<v Speaker 3>an abbreviate academy and then be able to come in

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<v Speaker 3>and be able to make a meaningful impact, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the first day they get out there, because they're they're

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<v Speaker 3>not new, they are experienced officers, and it's something that

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<v Speaker 3>that's what we're gonna have to do if they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to if they're really serious about getting us back to

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<v Speaker 3>what our compliment is the only way to do that

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<v Speaker 3>is to have multiple classes in the same year. Otherwise

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<v Speaker 3>we're not going to get back to our numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just going to keep falling. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mentioned the this this anti police sentiment that

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<v Speaker 1>was all the rage there a few years ago. You

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<v Speaker 1>got the impression that everybody in every neighborhood hated the

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<v Speaker 1>police department. What do you hear from your officers who

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<v Speaker 1>are out on patrol. Do they feel as though they

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<v Speaker 1>have community support for their presence?

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<v Speaker 3>I think, by and large, you have the community that

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<v Speaker 2>You really do.

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<v Speaker 3>You got you got the vocal minority that it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>matter what the police are going to do.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to hate them. They're going to say they

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<v Speaker 2>did the wrong thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But when you go to these communities and you see,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the average working class person that's in these communities,

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<v Speaker 3>they want the police there. They know the police are

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<v Speaker 2>But like I said, it's a vocal.

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<v Speaker 3>Minority that want to stand up and criticize the police.

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<v Speaker 3>We're always going to have that, but when you get

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<v Speaker 3>into these actual communities that the support is there, well.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, and I and much in the same way

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<v Speaker 1>I criticize Cincinnti Council in the mayor for not more

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<v Speaker 1>actively supporting the Cincinnti Police Department in law enforcement generally speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not that they're against them, of course, they're

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<v Speaker 1>voting for dollars for new classes, they're voting for lateral hires.

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<v Speaker 1>That suggests some support, but not a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people paying attention to line items and budgets. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of silence on the whole out loud regular support

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<v Speaker 1>of the police department really kind of irks me. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, sincinnt Police, given where morale is,

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<v Speaker 1>at least from where I'm led, it's led to believe

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<v Speaker 1>it is, they could certainly use that type of active engagement.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to think that you know, these communities

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<v Speaker 1>out there would rebel against the anti police sentiment, and

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<v Speaker 1>would more out loud express support for the police now

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<v Speaker 1>that you're hearing it and feeling that when patrolling these

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<v Speaker 1>communities is a wonderful thing. And I'm glad to know

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<v Speaker 1>that those who are are who reject the police or

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<v Speaker 1>think they're bad are the minority out there. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>out loud support is a completely different element, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that would go a long way to helping this

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<v Speaker 1>insane police accomplish its job and patrolling and keeping our

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<v Speaker 1>streets safe.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you hit anail on the head, you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>can you can walk, you know, out out in the

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<v Speaker 3>community and have somebody shake your hand and say listen,

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<v Speaker 3>not everybody feels a way that you're hearing on social

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<v Speaker 3>media whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Out you know, they shake your hand and say, we

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<v Speaker 2>support the police. But you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>The other part of that is having city leaders standing

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<v Speaker 3>up earth and outwardly saying, look, we support the police,

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<v Speaker 3>we support what they're doing, you know, and that's that

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<v Speaker 3>That means probably just as much, if not more than

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<v Speaker 3>it does from hearing it from some many the community.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, how about a tweet or some social media

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<v Speaker 1>posts from council members of the mayor talking about exactly

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<v Speaker 1>that they've be elevated to a level of attention. Plus

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<v Speaker 1>it will be widely reported because again the silence it

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be deafening. FOP President Ken Cober, God bless

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<v Speaker 1>you and the work that you and the since a

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<v Speaker 1>police department.

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<v Speaker 5>Do.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you coming on the morning show and sharing

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts and comments on these events as they unfold.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, we'll keep our you and every police officer

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<v Speaker 1>and our thoughts and prayers.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Brian, thanks for having me.

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