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Speaker 2: The story you're about to hear is true, only the

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names have been changed to protect the innocents. You're a

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detective sergeant. You're assigned to Missing Persons detail. A ten

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year old boy disappears from his home in a remote

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section of the city two nights and two days past.

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Speaker 3: There's not a trace of the boy.

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Speaker 2: Your job find out.

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Speaker 4: Drag Net the documented drama of an actual crime. Well

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the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles

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Police Department, you will travel step by step on the

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side of the law through an actual case transcribed from

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official police files, from beginning to end, from crime to punishment.

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Dragnet is the story of your police force and action.

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Speaker 5: It was Wednesday, August fourth, was hot in Los Angeles.

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We're working the day watch out of Juvenile Bureau. My

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partner's Ben Romero. The boss's Inspector Bowling. My name's Frany.

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We were on the way out from the office and

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it was two twenty five pm when we got to

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Bowers Avenue, number twelve eighteen.

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Speaker 3: Yees police officers. Man would like to see mister Sherman.

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Speaker 6: We'll certainly, officers, won't you come in?

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Speaker 7: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 6: I'm from next door. I saw you around here yesterday. Yes, ma'am,

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came over this morning look after poor mister Sherman.

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Speaker 3: Yes, ma'am. Well, how's he feeling today too?

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Speaker 6: Well? Fixed him some nice chicken broth for lunch, and

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then I helped him in his wheel chair and took

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him out in the backyard out in the sun, good

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hot sun. It's wonderful for his legs. He has arthritis, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, Yes, so we understand. What if we could talk

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to him, Miss.

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Speaker 6: Kelly, Well, yes, I guess you have to. He's still

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out in the back sleep in his chair. Last time

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I looked, seems ashamed of disturb him.

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Speaker 7: Well, he called us at the office that he wanted

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to see as as soon as we could make it

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out here.

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Speaker 6: Was it about his grandson, Jimmy? They called him?

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Speaker 7: Yet no man searching parties calling in the area. There's

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still no trace of the boy.

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Speaker 3: Did any of the other.

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Speaker 5: Officers who were out here covering the neighborhood talk to you,

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miss Kelly.

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Speaker 6: Oh, yes, there was mister Lorman, Detective Lorman.

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Speaker 3: Yes, ma'am.

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Speaker 6: I told him everything I knew about Jimmy's disappearance. It

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was right after dinner hour on Monday, about six thirty

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last time I saw Jimmy.

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Speaker 3: I see.

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Speaker 6: I came out the side door were to empty the garbage,

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and I saw Jimmy hiking up the side of the

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hill there just in back the house, all by himself.

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Nice boy.

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Speaker 7: As far as you know, missus Keller, Jimmy is mister

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Sherman's only living relative.

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Speaker 6: That's right. His only relative, his only grandchild. Jimmy's mother

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and father were killed in an auto wreck that was

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three or four years ago. Sherman's had a terrible lot

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of tragedy. Jimmy and his grandfather, they're the only ones left.

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Speaker 5: You can't think of any reason why the boyould want

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to leave his grandfather.

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Speaker 6: King, none at all. Mister Sherman's a wonderful man. Jimmy

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loved him.

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Speaker 8: I knew then, Missus Keller, Missus Keller.

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Speaker 6: We can go through the house out the back this way.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, go ahead of him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, visitors for you, Missus Sherman. How are you

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feeling all right?

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Speaker 9: I suppose? Hellos? What about the boy? Have you found

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him yet?

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Speaker 5: Well, nothing yet, mister Sherman. We've added more men to

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the searching party. We're doing everything we can.

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Speaker 9: I'm gone two nights and two days. Tell me the truth, sergeant,

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what's happened to the boy?

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Speaker 7: All right?

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Speaker 10: Now?

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Speaker 3: We don't know any more about it than you do, Servant.

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That's no reason to give up, hope.

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Speaker 7: You told us yourself yesterday that Jimmy's been messing once before.

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It turned out alright that time he.

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Speaker 8: Wasn't gone for two nights and two days.

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Speaker 9: Maybe you just say I'm old and I've got funny ideas,

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But I got a feeling, Sergeant, something's happened to Jimmy.

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Speaker 8: Something's happened, and I can't do anything about it.

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Speaker 6: You just put those thoughts out of your head, mister Sherman.

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They're gonna find Jimmy. It's gonna be all right. Why

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don't you pull up those lawn chairs there, Sergeant. Right,

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I'm gonna go in the house and fix some coal

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lemonade for you. Man.

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Speaker 11: Well, thank you man.

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Speaker 5: We got your phone message at the office, mister Sherman,

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anything specially you wanted to talk to us about.

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Speaker 9: Yes, there was something when you were talking to me yesterday. Yes, Sir,

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I told you that Jimmy had on a brown jacket

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when he disappeared Monday night. Yeah, I was wrong, Sergeant.

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We found the jacket in his room. All he was

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wearing was a pair of blue jeans in this white sweatshirt.

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Speaker 8: Do you think that might help any.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, it might.

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Speaker 5: We'll send out a supplementary description of his clothes. We'll

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see that everybody's notified.

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Speaker 9: Just wish I could be out there with a searching party.

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Aps writers is pretty bad today. It caught me in

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a terrible time. I don't know what I'd do if

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anything happened to the boy.

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Speaker 7: I know we have asked you this before, mister Sherman,

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but can you think of any reason at all why

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your grandson would want to leave home?

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Speaker 9: No, sir, no reason at all. Those two colligue pops

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over there in the pin Jimmy just bought him last

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week with his own money saved up together. The boy's

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crazy about dogs. That's why I say, just wouldn't pick

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up and leave everything. Boy and me got a long fine.

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No reason for it, Sagean. Something's happened to the boy.

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Speaker 8: I just got a.

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Speaker 7: Feeling offer, Yes, ma'am.

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Speaker 6: A telephone call for either one out here.

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Speaker 3: I'll get it, Ben, I'll be right back.

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Speaker 6: All right, is your office calling?

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Speaker 3: Thank you, miss Keller.

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Speaker 6: Where's that telephone? Straight back there in the hall?

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Friday talking.

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Speaker 12: This is Pooling.

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Speaker 11: Joe just heard from the search.

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Speaker 3: Party up of the hill or did they find something?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: In the Allian Fark carrier by the upper reservoir. Huh

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found a pair of kids trousers right by the edge

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of the water.

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Speaker 3: What kind of trousers, blue jeans?

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Speaker 13: Nothing in the pockets. They'll start dragging for a body

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as soon as they get the equipment. Check it out

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with a grandfather. Huh see if the boy was in

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the habit of hiking up there around the reservoir.

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Speaker 5: Right, we'll call in just before we leave here, right, Joe, Right, bye.

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Speaker 6: Well, there's your lemonade, sergeant, just port it for you nicely.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, ma'am.

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Speaker 8: What was it something about the boy?

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Speaker 5: Well, nothing definite, no, sir, Just to report on the

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search party. They're still up in the Allegian Park area.

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Speaker 8: Oh, I see.

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Speaker 5: Did your grandson Jimmy do much hiking in that neighborhood there,

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mister Sherman.

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Speaker 8: Yes, I think he did. Likes to hike up there

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on the reservoir.

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Speaker 5: Why the name on the three sixteen report missing juvenile

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read James Phillip Sherman, WMA, ten years old. He lived

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with his sixty eight year old grandfather, Oscar Sherman, and

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a small cottage in a sparsely populated section of the city.

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Shortly after six pm on Monday, the boy went outside

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to play when darkness fell, and he failed to return home.

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His crippled grandfather went out to look for him. Half

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an hour later, the neighbors joined in in the search.

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No sign of the boy. At ten pm, Juvenile Bureau

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was notified, and throughout the night squads of men on

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foot and cruiser cars canvassed the area. A local broadcast

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and an all points bulletin was gotten out on the boy.

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Neither the grandfather or the neighbors could find any reason

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for his disappearance.

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Speaker 3: After almost forty eight hours of.

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Speaker 5: Continuous searching, the only lead we had was the pair

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of trousers found on the edge of the Upper Reservoir

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in Alegian Park. They were to the grandfather, but he

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failed to give positive identification. Dragging operations at the reservoir

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began immediately. Meantime, Ben and I, together with Lorman and

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Lopez from Homicide, checked out every possible lead on the

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missing youngster. One of the tips came from a Frank Grady,

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an unemployed carpenter who lived five blocks from the Sherman home.

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Speaker 14: I don't know how much is maybe worth you, Sergeant.

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I don't want to get anybody into trouble, but I

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figured this is a pretty important thing.

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Speaker 12: What is it?

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Speaker 7: You want to tell us, mister Grady, Well, as.

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Speaker 14: I say, I don't want to get anybody in any trouble,

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but have you checked over everybody in this neighborhood?

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Speaker 7: I think we've talked just about everybody in there. You

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don't jujo well either us of the man from homicide.

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Speaker 14: Why he asked Grady, Well, there's a guy who's down

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the street there, right down the corner from this house,

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old guy by name on Gilby.

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Speaker 3: What about him?

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Speaker 14: I say, I don't want to cause any trouble, but

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maybe you ought to double check him. One thing, his

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next convict and all that. Another thing. He hates everybody

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in the neighborhood, hates the kids too. Wouldn't be surprised

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if he was man.

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Speaker 7: Why do you say that, Griddy? Does he have any

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special reason for disliking the Sherman boy?

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Speaker 14: Oh, Man Gilby wouldn't need a reason. A real queer

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one say, I got a couple of cans of cold

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beer in the icebox and I fixed you follows up?

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Speaker 5: What makes you think this Gilby had anything to do

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with the boys disappearance, mister.

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Speaker 14: Grady, Well, number one, I saw man Gilby out walking

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Monday night when the Sherman kid disappeared. Yeah, saw him

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walking along the road up there, the same one that

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goes up by the reservoir, and I watched him. It

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was dark by the time he got back to his house,

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and check on him again if I were you as.

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Speaker 7: Sure as you know. Has Gilby ever been in trouble

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for bothering the kids in the neighborhood?

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Speaker 14: Oh, sergeanty bothers everybody in the neighborhood. Real queer lives

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by himself, always complaining about something.

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Speaker 11: Frankly, I think he's your man.

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Speaker 8: I think he took that kid and he did something

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to him.

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Speaker 3: Do you have anything at all to back up your opinion.

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Speaker 14: You dig her on, you'll find something on him.

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Speaker 11: There's no good, no bed on it.

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Speaker 14: I've had a couple of runnings with him myself. He

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just isn't any good.

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Speaker 5: That's all well, all right, Grady, thanks for the tip.

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We'll be sure and double check on the man.

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Speaker 14: You won't tell him where you got the tip though, huh.

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Like I say, I've had run ins with him before.

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It might cause trouble.

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Speaker 3: No, he won't know where we got it.

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Speaker 14: Thanks again, Okay, sergeant, that's a pretty important thing. I

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didn't want to make anybody look bad. But oh man,

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it's just no good. You understand that, don't you?

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Speaker 3: Sure, Graddy? We understand.

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Speaker 5: As a matter of routine, we double checked on Grady's neighbor,

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mister Harold Gilby. We found out that he had no

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jail record and that he had been at work on

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Monday from three to eleven pm. He could have had

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no direct connection with the Sherman boys disappearance, no more

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than Gritty himself could have had. The so called tip

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he'd offered us was like one hundred other phony leads

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in one hundred other cases, spiteful small minded neighbors trying

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to use the tragic situation to work out their jealousies

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and prejudice on somebody that they didn't get along with

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in the neighborhood. The search continued, so did the hot weather. Friday,

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August sixth, sign of the missing boy, the temperature climbed

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into the mid nineties. Dragging operations at the reservoir went

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on Saturday, August seventh, more legwork, more hot weather. By noontime,

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Ben and I had run down the last lead we

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had on ten year old Jimmy Sherman went nowhere, one pm.

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We headed back for the office to check with Inspector Bowling.

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Speaker 7: These are the days when I wish I had a

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little swimming pool in my backyard. Grew'll be nice to

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go home too, you know, I'll save your money. Oh

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it doesn't cost some munch. No. I read in a

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magazine where a fellow built his own pool for ninety

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five dollars and thirty seven cents.

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Speaker 3: It can't be much of a pool, can it.

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Speaker 7: Oh? Yeah, it's good size.

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Speaker 8: Of course.

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Speaker 7: He did all his own labor, had all his friends

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in to help out. He must have had a lot

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of friends, didn't, Yeah, he did after he finished the pool.

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Speaker 15: Al Right, Hey benh hi skipper, how'd you two make

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out anything?

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Speaker 3: I don't no luck at all.

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Speaker 11: It makes you unanimous. Did you hear about the old

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man boy's grandfather?

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Speaker 7: No, what happened.

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Speaker 11: I guess the strain got too much for him.

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Speaker 3: Lapsed.

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Speaker 11: They're moving him to a hospital. Oh it's too bad.

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Speaker 3: Our men still up their dragnant.

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Speaker 11: Reservoir finished this morning? Nothing?

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Speaker 7: How about the search party? Nothing there either, I suppose.

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Oh I'm not a trace of the boy. It's a

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blind alley all the way around. How about the APU B.

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The radiogram had three replies so far, none of them

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fanned out.

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Speaker 15: You're a rabbit, juvenile br our Bowling there for it?

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No good eh, all right, check you later. I heard

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it once, I heard it fifty times. No trace of

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the boy. That means, Kipper, something real weird about the

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whole thing.

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Speaker 5: Well, little look, we know he didn't just disappear into

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the thin air. Kid's gone. There's a good reason for it.

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There's got to be an answer somewhere.

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Speaker 11: That's right, you'll find it.

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Speaker 5: Another week passed, and then a month, two months. We

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were no farther along than the day we started on

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the case. In November, we had a teletype from Chief

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Earl Claire of the Phoenix, Arizona Police Department reportedly the

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Sherman boy had been seen in Phoenix. Was another false alarm.

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The Christmas holidays wore on into a new year. February

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came and went, then March April. Tuesday, May third, Ben

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and I got a call to check in with Inspector Bowling.

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Speaker 11: This telegram just came in from Dayton, Ohio. I'm love,

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thank you.

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Speaker 7: Let's see Joe. What is it?

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Speaker 5: Jimmy Sherman they found him. Nine months had gone by,

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almost to the day since the Sherman boy had disappeared.

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The grandfather was contacted immediately. When he was told his

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grandson had been found and that he was safe, the

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old man was unable to answer.

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Speaker 3: He broke down and wept.

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Speaker 5: In our communications with the Dayton, Ohio police, they told

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us that the boy had been found wandering along a

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highway just outside that city, and that he'd appeared to

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be in a kind of a dazed condition. The boy

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told the Dayton officers that he'd been kidnapped a short

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distance from his home in Los Angeles by a man

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in a blue sedan. He gave them detailed descriptions of

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both the man and the car. He told them that

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for the past nine months a man had held him prisoner,

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driving from state to state, never letting the boy out

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of his sight. He said the kidnapper told him on

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several occasions that he was holding him for ransom and

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that he was waiting to get money from his grandfather.

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On May eighth, the youngster was returned to Los Angeles

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and reunited with his grandfather. On May tenth, we got

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a call from the grandfather that he wanted to talk

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to us, Ben, and I drove out to see him.

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Speaker 8: I'm right in ever since, glad to see it.

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Speaker 7: How are you, sir when I miss him?

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Speaker 8: Sorry to cause all this trouble chasing you out here.

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Speaker 3: Like this, not at all, sir. What is it you

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want to see us about?

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Speaker 9: Well, I'm not really sure about it, Sachan. That's the

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whole thing of it. I don't know if it's me

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or what it is.

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Speaker 7: What's bothering you, miss jim.

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Speaker 8: It's the boy, Jimmy, I don't know what to see.

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Speaker 3: Well, what do you mean, sir? He's all right, isn't he.

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Speaker 5: We saw him as we drove up, playing out in

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the backyard and the doctor checked him over here.

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Speaker 8: No, it's not that. The boy's healthy enough, nothing wrong

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with him.

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Speaker 3: Well, then what is it, sir?

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Speaker 9: Maybe it sounds a little weird to you, but I'm

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just not sure. You're not sure what that boyart there? Sergeant,

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I'm not sure he's really my grandson.

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Speaker 4: You are in the communications division of a metropolitan police department,

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the Teletype Room.

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Speaker 16: Forty three Los five twenty nine fifty one twelve oh

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three pm ap b WMA one fifty five t six,

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dark haired, dark eyes, wearing gray suit, no hat. Suspect

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is wearing glasses, heavy build, twenty two years Suspect is

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armed with blue steel revolver.

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Speaker 17: Any information forward, You have just heard a teletype description

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of a suspect. This information will apply to many, but

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screening will eliminate all but one.

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Speaker 5: Tuesday, May tenth, two pm, when the aging grandfather Oscar

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Sherman told us that he wasn't sure whether the recovered

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boy was really his grandson, Ben and I didn't know

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what to think. Our first reaction was that the shock

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of recovering the boy after he'd almost been given up

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for lost, had been too much for the old man.

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Mister Sherman admitted that there was no physical difference in

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the boy as far as he could see, but he

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still insisted that there was something wrong, but the boy

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seemed different somehow. To satisfy the grandfather, Ben and I

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talked to the boy, but he failed to give us

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any reason to believe that he was not Jimmy Sherman.

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We checked with the boy's friends, all the people in

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the neighborhood who'd known Jimmy over a period of years.

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Speaker 3: They confirmed our opinion a few thought that.

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Speaker 5: The youngster had changed a little, but no one had

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any serious doubts about it. The boy was really Jimmy Sherman,

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so the matter was dropped. Thursday, May twelfth, Ben and

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I had lunch and then we checked back in at

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the office.

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Speaker 7: Joe, I want to grab.

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Speaker 3: That juvenile bureau Friday mister, Yes, sir, Yes, sir, how

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are you?

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Speaker 12: I want you to come out and take this boy? Gotcha?

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He's not my grandson, I'm sure of it.

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Speaker 3: Well, how do you mean, sir, This boy's got a.

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Speaker 12: Scar on his side.

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Speaker 7: Yes, sir, my grandson never had an operation in his life.

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Speaker 5: Before we left the office, Ben and I briefed Inspector

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Bowling on the phone call from the grandfather.

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Speaker 3: Then we drove back to the Sherman house.

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Speaker 5: While Oscar Sherman didn't claim that he knew his grandson's

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complete medical history, he was certain that the boy had

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not had his appendix out and that he had not

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had an operation. He told us that his neighbor, missus Keller,

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could substantiate there that she had known Jimmy since.

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Speaker 3: He was a baby. We put in a call to

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the Sherman's family doctor. He wasn't in.

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Speaker 5: We left a message, and then we went next door

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to see missus Keller. We found her in the kitchen,

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washing dishes.

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Speaker 6: Got couple more to rents. Can wait a minute, yes,

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of course, No, to tell you the truth, Sergeant. I

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just don't know what to think about mister Sherman. Maybe

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the whole thing was too much for him. As mine's

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going back up.

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Speaker 7: Do you at knowledge missus Keller was the boy ever

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operated on?

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Speaker 6: No, not as far as I know. As possibly he

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did have an operation, I didn't hear about it. Sorry.

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As far as I'm concerned that boys, Jimmy Sherman, I

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don't know what his grandfather's up to with all that

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silly talk.

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Speaker 5: Well, if it's not really the boy, we won't have

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too much trouble finding the truth.

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Speaker 6: There's no question in my mind. Of course it's Jimmy.

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Why when he was over here the other day he

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talked about the party I gave for him one Halloween.

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He even remembered the children who were there.

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Speaker 3: Are the other neighbors as sure about the boy as

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you are?

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Speaker 6: Just about mis Foster down the street. Jimmy was in

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to see her yesterday. He talked about some changes she'd

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made in her living room, asked her about some relatives

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she has living out of town. Think about it. Jimmy

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even remarked on that new trailer rose I planted out

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in front science as the boy's dogs. Why they knew

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that youngster the minutity set foot in the yard.

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Speaker 5: Yes, ma'am, well, thank you very much, missus Keller. If

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we have any more questions, we'll contact CENTA.

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Speaker 6: All right, sergeant, couldn't picture a cup of coffee? Could I?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 3: No, thank you to take the time now, poor.

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Speaker 6: Mister Sherman, I don't know what to make of it.

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Speaker 7: I'm so mixed up, yes, ma'am, so are we.

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Speaker 5: We left the neighbor missus Keller, and went back next

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door to the Sherman house. The grandfather told us that

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the family doctor hadn't returned to our call yet.

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Speaker 3: At three point thirty pm, the boy came.

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Speaker 5: Home from school, changed his clothes, and went out into

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the backyard to play. We figured we had nothing to

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lose in talking to the boy again. We found him

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in the small workshop at the rear of the garage,

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where he was sawing on a piece of plywood with

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a hacksaw. We talked to him for about twenty minutes.

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It was no different than the first time we interviewed him.

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It was relaxed and talkative.

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Speaker 10: Say would you hand me that hamm of their officer?

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Speaker 7: Oh? Yeah, yeah, here you go. Thanks.

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Speaker 10: Why do I ever get this thing finished? It's gonna

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be the best coaster around here. These are the wheels

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I'm gonna put on it. Pretty good, aren't they?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: They look fine. Son. Do you like building things, coasters

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and things like that? Oh?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I like it? Alright, it's fun.

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Speaker 7: Your granddad says you've changed quite a bit since you

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got back. Jim says you didn't like working around the

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shop here before.

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Speaker 10: Well, I guess I don't really. You know, once in

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a while, I like to come out and fool around.

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Speaker 7: Have you seen mister Barlow down the street since you

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been back?

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Speaker 10: Mister Barlow? No, I went down to see him, but

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he wasn't home. Maybe I'll go down and see him tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: His name isn't Barlow, is it, Ben? I thought it

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was Robinson.

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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, that's all right, mister Robinson. Sometimes I forget.

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Speaker 3: How do you wouldn't your grandfather get along? Jim?

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Speaker 11: All right?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Sure?

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Speaker 10: Every once in a while. It's kind of funny at me.

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I don't know. I guess he's still worried about that

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man taking me away.

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Speaker 3: You know all I've been feeling lately, Jim Okay, sure, I.

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Speaker 10: Feel fine, hardly ever get sick. That's good.

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Speaker 3: You ever been in the hospital, son, ull just.

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Speaker 10: Once had my appendix out. I hate hospitals. I can

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I have that kend of nails there? Please?

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Speaker 7: Oh? Yeah, yeah, here you are.

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Speaker 10: I'm gonna make this good and strong.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'd like to ask you a question, Son, Yeah,

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what's your real name?

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Speaker 10: Jimmy Sherman?

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Speaker 6: You know that?

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Speaker 3: No, I'd like to have the truth. Son, Who are you?

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Speaker 10: He must be fooling officers. You know who I am?

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Jimmy Sherman.

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Speaker 5: No, Jimmy Sherman never had his appendix out, Son, But

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you did, and you've got a sky to prove it.

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Speaker 3: Haven't you?

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Speaker 10: Sure I had my appendix out? Ask my grandpa. He'll

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tell you.

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Speaker 7: I'm Freddy, won't Son. He says he's not your grandfather.

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He says you don't belong here. His grandson never had

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an operation in his life.

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Speaker 3: How about it's sin? Do you want to tell us

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about it?

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Speaker 10: Oh, Grandpa isn't feeling wrough. He doesn't know what he's seeing.

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Speaker 3: Well, he knows you're done his grandson. Come on, what about.

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Speaker 10: It's son, all right, I'm not Jimmy Schuman.

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Speaker 5: He told us his real name was Donald Rush. He

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said he'd run away from his home in Springfield, Ohio,

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two weeks before. He said that he'd been picked up

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by the police on a highway just on the outskirts

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of Dayton, Ohio.

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Speaker 3: On returning the boy.

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Speaker 5: To the station, the police officers saw that he fitted

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the description of the missing California boy perfectly, was almost

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as if the two were identical twins. Under the impression

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that the youngster was suffering from shock or amnesia, the

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police officers told him all about his home and his

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friends in California. They gave Donald Rush all the information

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that they had on the missing Sherman Boy, all the

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newspaper stories, pictures, the dozens of teletypes and circulars which

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had been sent across the country in an effort to

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locate the missing youngster. On his way out to California

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on the train, the Rush boy was given dozens of

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newspapers to read, which contained thousands of words concerning the

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disappearance of Jimmy Sherman. So by the time he got

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to Los Angeles, Donald rush knew everything he had to

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know about the boy he was impersonating. We questioned the

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Ohio youngster further. Besides an exceptionally high IQ, he admitted

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to having an almost photographic memory. We took him in

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the house to face the grandfather of the boy that

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he'd been impersonating. The boy was still missing.

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Speaker 7: Mister Sherman, Yes, sir, sit down, won't you. The boy

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here has a confession for you. He wants to tell

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you himself.

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Speaker 8: And I think I know I was right all along,

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wasn't my set.

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Speaker 10: I didn't mean anything by it, mister. I just thought

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it'd be fun to make up like somebody else for

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a while.

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't know the difference was just no, sir, afraid

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I wouldn't a picture over there on the mattle, I'm

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the boy here. They look exactly alike to me.

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Speaker 8: There's only one thing I'd like to know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, why did you do it?

532
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Speaker 8: Why'd you try and fool me?

533
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Speaker 10: I don't know, mister. I ran away from home and

534
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the cops picked me up in your date and he

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thought my name was Jimmy Sherman. They said I was

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missing kids from California.

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Speaker 3: Why didn't you straighten him out right then? Son?

538
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Speaker 10: I was kind of afraid if I told him what

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my roommate was, they would have sent me back home.

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So I just let him think I was really Jimmy Sherman,

541
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and they seemed to be pretty sure I was.

542
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Speaker 7: How long did you think you could keep it up, son,

543
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,119
pretending it were somebody I.

544
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Speaker 10: Don't know, Yes, I never thought much about that. I

545
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got here and everybody was nice to me. I just

546
00:25:33,559 --> 00:25:37,079
didn't think about anybody finding out, honest, mister, I didn't

547
00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:39,799
mean to do anything wrong. I didn't mean to hurt anybody.

548
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Speaker 8: And you never saw my grandson. You never saw it, Jimmy.

549
00:25:43,759 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 10: No, Sir, I just got on the train. They brought

550
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me out here.

551
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,079
Speaker 3: You don't know where he is, You don't know how

552
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,359
it is, or I'd try to take it easy, mister Sherman.

553
00:25:52,799 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 8: Why would you do it?

554
00:25:53,759 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 7: Boy?

555
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Speaker 8: You're a stranger. Why would you try to fool me

556
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about Jimmy?

557
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,559
Speaker 10: Sorry, mister, I didn't mean it. I didn't mean it.

558
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Speaker 11: Thought I hadn't.

559
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Speaker 10: Come on then, Sir, I didn't want to make him

560
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cry like that, Sergeant, honest, I'm sorry. Couldn't you just

561
00:26:25,839 --> 00:26:26,960
let me stay here with him?

562
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Speaker 3: No, I'm afraid not, Sam, I don't.

563
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Speaker 10: Do anything wrong. Don't you think I could just stay

564
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here with him. I'll go right back in there now,

565
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I'm telling him, I'm sorry.

566
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry too, youngster, But you're not the boys

567
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looking for.

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Speaker 2: The story you have just heard was true, only the

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names were changed to protect the innocent.

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Speaker 4: On Wednesday, May twentieth, the meeting was held at the

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Juvenile Bureau City in County of Los Angeles, State of California.

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In a moment the results of that meeting, Donald Rush,

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who impersonated missing ten year old Jimmy Sherman, was returned

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to the custody of his parents at their home in Springfield, Ohio.

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Four months later, the body of Jimmy Sherman was discovered

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buried on a farm on the outskirts of Riverside, California.

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The boy had been murdered. His killer, a farmer in

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the neighborhood, was subsequently apprehended and brought to trial. He

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was found guilty of murder in the first degree and

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was executed at the state penitentiary San Quentin, California. You

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have just heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases from

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official files. Technical advice comes from the Office of Chief

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of Police W. H. Parker, Los Angeles Police Department.

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Speaker 7: Stay tuned for Cowver Spy next over most NBC.

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Speaker 3: Stations, welcome back.

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Speaker 1: This is one of those stories which is stranger than fiction.

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If you were telling this story on another detective show

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about a ten year old boy who was able to

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impersonate another ten year old boy on newspaper accounts and

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00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:26,559
mistaken identity, people would say, yeah, this is really far fetch,

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that would never really happen. But given dragnettes based on

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a true story setup, you've got to treat it as credible.

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I did find myself wondering about this imposter kid's home life.

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He clearly did not want to go home. Now. Of course,

595
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sometimes kids do that for you know, perfectly normal, reasonable reasons,

596
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but sometimes there's more going on there, and I wonder

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whether that would have been interrogated more if this sort

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of thing were to happen today. All right, well, listener

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comments and feedback and have a comment from Alfred on

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YouTube looking for a Joe Friday fan fiction of the

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war years. Thanks for the comment. Now, we do know

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from the episode The Big Escape that Joe Friday did

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00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:25,680
serve in World War Two, and that episode also introduced

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00:29:25,759 --> 00:29:31,039
us to one of his war bodies, but after that

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we don't have any information of what went on. Now,

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I'm not aware of anyone having taken up to write this,

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and I am aware of dragging that fan fiction. And

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while it's not inherently interesting, it could be interesting depending

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on what people were able to come up with. You know,

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Joe Friday was one of those war veterans who just

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didn't talk about it, and there were a lot of

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of men who served in war who were like that.

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My wife's grandfather was one of those. So there'd be

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a lot of room to speculate. Your only limitations really

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in writing something like that, if you were wanting to

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00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:19,160
be consistent at all, is you'd have to listen to

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The Big Escape and stay within the confines of the

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00:30:23,799 --> 00:30:29,079
limited information that is revealed about Joe's war service in

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that episode, because I think that's the only one it's

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talked about.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 1: If you wanted to take an old time radio episode

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and treat it as fan fiction about Joe Friday's war service.

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You could take the episode Operation Fleur de Lee, where

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the character played by Jack Webb is not giving his

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00:30:49,359 --> 00:30:52,720
real name because he's afraid of what might happen to him.

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That character is pretty different from Joe Friday, but the

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00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:04,039
events of that story could be seen as so traumatically

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transformative that they led to changes in personality. I think

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that might be the only World War two old time

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radio episode with Jack Webb. Of course it was broadcast

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after the war. But thanks for the comment, and I

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do want to go ahead and thank Kelly, Patreon supporter

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since July twenty seventeen, currently supporting the podcast at the

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But join us back here tomorrow for yours truly, Johnny

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Dollar where.

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Speaker 10: Picking us up in the air.

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Speaker 15: Take a deep one, Johnny, you smell it?

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00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 4: Tell us not kerosene. How I don't think it's gasoline either.

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00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,039
Speaker 2: Ib at trumping highly inflammable. The boys that chemical truck

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could get it out, and I learn something first.

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Speaker 4: These stores always stuck a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of cleaning fluid stuff like that hus that are not inflammable.

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Speaker 7: Well, how much, honey, look out.

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Speaker 1: I hope you'll be with us then in the meantime,

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