Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Dan Ray. I'm WBZY Boston's Radio.
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Speaker 2: you what we're going to do tonight the show that
Speaker 2: you're going to hear. We're going to talk with the
Speaker 2: executive director of the MBTA Advisory Board tonight at nine
Speaker 2: o'clock about what's going on with the MBTA, and there's
Speaker 2: a little bit of good news with the team. Normally
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Speaker 2: let's see what we come up with tonight. And then
Speaker 2: later on tonight, beginning at ten o'clock, we'll talk about
Speaker 2: the weird nomination of Matt Gates. President Trump now has
Speaker 2: given a second nominee an opportunity to be considered the
Speaker 2: former attorney general of the state of Flow. My nominee
Speaker 2: would have been, as I said the other day, former
Speaker 2: Assistant Attorney General in the Bush administration. Bush forty three,
Speaker 2: John U Professor John Yue of UC Berkeley. Great guy.
Speaker 2: I know him very well. Tough as nail, smart as
Speaker 2: a whip, and I was communicating with him this afternoon.
Speaker 2: I think I Pam BONDI might be wonderful. I get it,
Speaker 2: but John, you would have been spectacular in my opinion.
Speaker 2: So we'll get to all of that a little bit
Speaker 2: later on. Let me welcome Rob Brooks, who does, as
Speaker 2: always a fine job back in the control room for us.
Speaker 2: He'll set you up with phone calls after nine o'clock
Speaker 2: and in the meantime we're going to go to the
Speaker 2: night Side News Update, which is the recent, well about
Speaker 2: a year and a half now tradition of Nightside And
Speaker 2: we will start off tonight. And I got all of
Speaker 2: my notes here and we'll have everything in front of
Speaker 2: me and we'll be and we will be all set.
Speaker 2: Going to start off with a gentleman who is attempting
Speaker 2: and I certainly think he will be successful walking across
Speaker 2: the Commonwealth of Massachusetts's name is Dave Pilar. Dave. I
Speaker 2: always want to make sure I pronounce people's names correctly.
Speaker 2: Have I come close to you? I hope? Fullar Okay,
Speaker 2: well we've changed it a little bit. Full Are, first
Speaker 2: of all, congratulations on this this effort. It's for a
Speaker 2: great cause. Uh And when is it going to happen?
Speaker 2: Because I don't think the weather's going to get any
Speaker 2: better between now and may here in Uiga. What are
Speaker 2: we talking about?
Speaker 3: So we're gonna attempt, starting next Friday, November twenty ninth,
Speaker 3: to run across the state of Massachusetts. It's about one
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty four miles over the span of four days,
Speaker 3: hopefully finishing on December second, Monday, December second.
Speaker 2: And we're doing this very ambitious. That's pretty ambitious. So
Speaker 2: forgive me for having said as a walk, I was
Speaker 2: thinking of the State Auditors walk. This is a run.
Speaker 2: So you're going to try to click off about forty
Speaker 2: miles a day.
Speaker 3: That's right?
Speaker 2: Well, what what is? You got a great cause here
Speaker 2: though again you've desig understand it been dealing with some
Speaker 2: medical conditions, not anything that's going to be totally debilitating,
Speaker 2: but kind of what I would consider to be a
Speaker 2: serious disease. You're thirty three year old guy uh and
Speaker 2: you you're a footwear designer, designed to stand that, and
Speaker 2: you tie it all together because you've done design work
Speaker 2: for the Museum of Fine Arts, David Ortiz's Children Fund,
Speaker 2: and Sean Thornton's Foundation. Former a Bruin player, how do
Speaker 2: you how does this all come together? Give us, give
Speaker 2: us the big picture.
Speaker 3: I have first and foremost. I appreciate your time, and
Speaker 3: I appreciate you allowing me some space to share the
Speaker 3: story on your show, So thank you very much. But yeah,
Speaker 3: it really just it comes from from twofold, right. The
Speaker 3: first is I think as we grow and get older,
Speaker 3: we develop a perspective of how you know, our adolescent
Speaker 3: years can really shape form, inspire and develop our mindset
Speaker 3: for many, many years to come. And so our goal
Speaker 3: is to raise fifteen thousand dollars for UMass Memorial Children's
Speaker 3: Medical Center here in western Massachusetts. It's where I reside,
Speaker 3: and so they're a local hospital. They treat a number
Speaker 3: of children from toddlers all the way to youth teens,
Speaker 3: and so I figured this is a great opportunity to
Speaker 3: give back. You know, no child wants to spend the
Speaker 3: holidays in a hospital, and so if we can raise
Speaker 3: some funds to buy children's toys and bring smiles to
Speaker 3: kids' faces, I think that's a really beautiful thing. And
Speaker 3: then you mentioned, yeah, you know, growing up, I was
Speaker 3: diagnosed with Crone's disease. I was in and out of
Speaker 3: hospitals and different medical centers growing up. And while today
Speaker 3: it's under control because I've learned a lot about my
Speaker 3: diet and a lot about fitness and all these other
Speaker 3: great things.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: It did form a perspective for me and how important
Speaker 3: our health is. And so this run is something to
Speaker 3: my knowledge and limited research because it's not really well documented.
Speaker 3: I'll probably be the third or fourth person to attempt
Speaker 3: this feat all the way from the New York border
Speaker 3: to Boston, and so I'm just excited to document it,
Speaker 3: to do it, and then also raise funds for an
Speaker 3: amazing cause.
Speaker 2: So can folks. You must have, I'm sure you have
Speaker 2: a website. I'd love you to share that website with
Speaker 2: the audience so that maybe they can follow you beginning
Speaker 2: on Friday, the day after Thanksgiving through that weekend, clicking
Speaker 2: off forty or so miles every day. I mean, I
Speaker 2: can't think of doing forty miles in one day, never
Speaker 2: mind doing and I'm in pretty good shape. But you know,
Speaker 2: you got the hills of Worcester in front of you. Boy,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you it's gonna be. So how can folks
Speaker 2: fall you this and how can they help you?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: They for sure, thank you for that. You know, you
Speaker 3: can either google my name David falar Fi l A
Speaker 3: R and more than more times than none, it'll come up.
Speaker 3: But the website is just giving dot com backslash page
Speaker 3: page backslash David dash Falar uh, and it'll bring you
Speaker 3: to the fundraise page. We as I mentioned for our
Speaker 3: goal is fifteen thousand dollars. We're at thirty two hundred
Speaker 3: dollars right now, and we're still eight days away, so
Speaker 3: I have really high hopes that we'll be able to
Speaker 3: do it. You know, five dollars, ten dollars, fifteen, whatever
Speaker 3: people can give to bring, you know, a smile to
Speaker 3: the children's faces of this holiday season. That's really that's
Speaker 3: really the goal. But yeah, you know social media, if
Speaker 3: you want to follow along, I post daily videos on
Speaker 3: TikTok it's just under my name, or on you know,
Speaker 3: Instagram or you know, the hospital has been really tremendous
Speaker 3: at supporting with their their media team, and so you
Speaker 3: can either follow you mathematical or you a mass memorial
Speaker 3: and or myself at David Fallar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking at the Instagram account right now and people,
Speaker 2: I'd advise people who are on Instagram to give it
Speaker 2: a look, and if not, you can go to the website.
Speaker 2: David Filar, thank you very much for what you do,
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us tonight, and best of luck. I
Speaker 2: don't want to say may the force be with you,
Speaker 2: but may the weather be with you. I hope.
Speaker 3: I really appreciate that. Yeah, absolutely, I appreciate. I appreciate
Speaker 3: your time to thank you for the space.
Speaker 2: Well, you are more than welcome. Thank you for what
Speaker 2: you do. We get back when we talk about another
Speaker 2: great cause with a former congressman from Pennsylvania. I'm talking
Speaker 2: about veteran suicide. Patrick Murphy's a former congressman, under Secretary
Speaker 2: of the US Army. He's very much involved with face
Speaker 2: the fight against veteran suicide. We'll be talking with Patrick
Speaker 2: Murphy right after this break. This is WBZ in Boston.
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Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Delighted to be joined by former United States Congressman Patrick Murphy.
Speaker 2: He was a member of Congress from Pennsylvania for four
Speaker 2: years from two thousand and seven to twenty eleven. And
Speaker 2: it's a Democrat, a veteran, and I think we need
Speaker 2: more veterans, whether they're Democrats or Republicans in Congress. Patrick Murphy,
Speaker 2: Welcome to Nightside. How are you Dan?
Speaker 5: I'm doing great, buddy. I'm going to be in Boston
Speaker 5: tomorrow at the Convention Center for the one hundred and
Speaker 5: fourth Annual Social Studies Conference. But I love Boston and
Speaker 5: spend a lot of time at the JFK Library, etc.
Speaker 5: And just it's good to be on your show. Well,
Speaker 5: thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Well my pleasure, that is for sure. We're going to
Speaker 2: talk about the fight against veterans suicide. I've heard the
Speaker 2: number that sticks in my mind as we lose anywhere
Speaker 2: between twenty or twenty two veterans to suicide every day.
Speaker 2: Is that true?
Speaker 5: It's true. Unfortunately, and since nine eleven, since our nature
Speaker 5: was attack, then we've lost over one hundred and twenty
Speaker 5: five thousand. For my brother and sister veterans, and it
Speaker 5: is preventable. Dan, we got to do better, and that's
Speaker 5: why I'm sharing the space to Fight initiative. It's a
Speaker 5: private center of that initiative, but you know, we got
Speaker 5: to break the stigma that mental health is just as
Speaker 5: important as your piscal health.
Speaker 2: No question about it. And one of the things that
Speaker 2: we've talked about up here, not to get into the
Speaker 2: politics of this, I promise you, is that we've had
Speaker 2: a lot of conversation about how migrants are finding shelter
Speaker 2: in Massachusetts, and every time we talk about the subject,
Speaker 2: it's invariably people come up and talk to me about
Speaker 2: the veterans in Massachusetts who have served the country in
Speaker 2: many cases, you know, suffered either physical or psychological wounds,
Speaker 2: and some of those who are wounded psychologically, uh, don't
Speaker 2: even want to stay in shelters uh and find themselves
Speaker 2: in the street. And we're just not doing enough, uh,
Speaker 2: not only to prevent veterans suicide, we're not doing enough
Speaker 2: to care for the veterans who we have sent off
Speaker 2: to a combat situation or or or we have you know,
Speaker 2: accepted their their service for a term of years, and
Speaker 2: when they're out, they're kind of out on their own.
Speaker 2: What what can Why is it that a country that
Speaker 2: we revere veterans, but we don't tend to to follow
Speaker 2: through with with any with as much support as our
Speaker 2: reverence would suggest we should give. That's the only way
Speaker 2: I can take.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the part of it is, you know, we we
Speaker 5: train these young Americans up to be you know, world
Speaker 5: class warriors, and you know, three or four to five
Speaker 5: six months to train them up. And then when they're
Speaker 5: done and their term of service is over, I mean
Speaker 5: that's pretty much it. We give them a week or
Speaker 5: two of transition assistants, et cetera. But you know, we
Speaker 5: got to do a better job at that that warm
Speaker 5: hand off that when they go back home the places
Speaker 5: like Boston or Cambridge or or Talkting or wherever. Uh,
Speaker 5: you know that they're that they know they have a job,
Speaker 5: they know that they you know, fall back in to
Speaker 5: another tribe. And that's why, you know, I encourage, you know,
Speaker 5: when we have two hundred thousand active truths to become veterans.
Speaker 5: Every single year, I encourage them to, Hey, you got
Speaker 5: to keep up with your pet, your physical training. You
Speaker 5: gotta go join a gym, whether it's a CrossFit or
Speaker 5: a crunch or whatever it is, right, just you gotta,
Speaker 5: you gotta, you know, do what you can to get
Speaker 5: after it, because you know you might not find a
Speaker 5: purpose driven life in the nine to five job. So
Speaker 5: you have to find a tribe. You have to put
Speaker 5: yourself out there because, as you mentioned, our veterans are
Speaker 5: civic assets to this nation. They want to continue to
Speaker 5: serve and as the Bible, you know, teaches them at
Speaker 5: the beall Catholic, you know, we have to have a
Speaker 5: servants heart, and we have to treat those least among us,
Speaker 5: and those veterans who've given so much, the least we
Speaker 5: could do to take care of them when they come home.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a couple of groups that I'm very
Speaker 2: much involved in. One it's called Hope for the Warriors.
Speaker 2: A guy out of Pennsylvania like yourself, former NBA player
Speaker 2: Jack Barron, is a big buddy of mine from for
Speaker 2: decades and Jack who is a Republican. I went to
Speaker 2: Duke and then had twelve years in the NBA and
Speaker 2: came and went back to Duke law school and also
Speaker 2: the Veterans Defense Project out of Minneapolis. I have a
Speaker 2: friend of mine who's a US attorney, former US attorney
Speaker 2: out there, guy by the name of Hank she who's
Speaker 2: trying to come up with a model program. The only
Speaker 2: two states that have this perfect what I considered not
Speaker 2: the perfect program, but the best program for veterans who
Speaker 2: find themselves in a little bit of difficulty legally speak
Speaker 2: as a lawyer on Nebraska in Minnesota. And I don't
Speaker 2: know if you're familiar with either of those projects, but
Speaker 2: there's a lot of people out there who are trying
Speaker 2: to help. But I wish we could get everybody a
Speaker 2: little bit more coordinated under some similar umbrella. Do you
Speaker 2: have you can you share that that sense? Can you
Speaker 2: can you understand what I'm saying about that absolutely?
Speaker 5: And then you're you're you're, you're absolutely right, and that
Speaker 5: there are too many of our brothers to veterans that
Speaker 5: are drowning in a sea of goodwill. There's forty six
Speaker 5: thousand veteran service organizations out there, right, and so that's
Speaker 5: why we're trying to do and show people the best
Speaker 5: in practice when it comes to our veterans' mental health.
Speaker 5: And that's why they can visits their website we face
Speaker 5: to Fight dot org and it's really this private center
Speaker 5: led effort by Reach Resilience by us AA, by you
Speaker 5: man and these patriots over Twiner Partners and Elizabeth Dolt
Speaker 5: Foundation over Twitter partners. Then people know that they can
Speaker 5: make a difference. Go on the website. It's free for everybody.
Speaker 5: Go there, figure out, Hey, if there's someone in need,
Speaker 5: if there's a veteran that's you know, question, if they
Speaker 5: want to go on or they need some type of interaction.
Speaker 5: It tells you the best practices, It tells you how
Speaker 5: to get help. You know, of course there's you go
Speaker 5: down nine eighty eight, But we want to make sure
Speaker 5: that people know that don't get help us, don't feel
Speaker 5: there's nothing you can do. Everybody can get involved. When
Speaker 5: we ask less than one percent of our nation to serve,
Speaker 5: it takes all of us to ninety nine percent to
Speaker 5: stand up and make sure that we stand with them,
Speaker 5: shoulder or shoulder and live by that ethos Dan that
Speaker 5: we leave no one behind.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, absolutely, from the battlefield or from the battlefield
Speaker 2: of life. So the website is we facedfight dot com.
Speaker 2: And the number that you mentioned yet is a hotline
Speaker 2: for veterans who find themselves in trouble. Two quick final questions.
Speaker 2: My censor is that both the parties, both the Democrats
Speaker 2: and the Republicans, have failed out of Washington, DC. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you agree with that. I know that
Speaker 2: you're a former you know, congressman, and that's not to
Speaker 2: throw shade on people who are there. Seth. Molton is
Speaker 2: a very good friend of mine, a colleague of yours,
Speaker 2: you know, both in wartime and and and in the
Speaker 2: political world. Although I don't think your terms overlapped, if
Speaker 2: I recall correctly.
Speaker 5: No, but I helped them in the primary. I'm a
Speaker 5: big fan of set and I was just with them
Speaker 5: the other day. I served with Joe Kennedy. It was
Speaker 5: from you know out there Mesteres and yep. And I'm
Speaker 5: on a board called Homes for our troops there and
Speaker 5: tald We've got over three hundred three homes for veterans,
Speaker 5: you know, in need, so listen. Yeah, And I'm not
Speaker 5: being put by I do think part of the problem is, then,
Speaker 5: is that it used to be after World War Two,
Speaker 5: people like jfk and George Bush said they came back home,
Speaker 5: they ran for office. Four every five members of Congress
Speaker 5: were veterans. Now, then it is best than one out
Speaker 5: every five. So that's why I, you know I and
Speaker 5: again some of my best friends who I served the
Speaker 5: army with our Republican that are serving in Congress. You
Speaker 5: know one I was a professor west Plain web. The
Speaker 5: bottom line is, though, is that whether they run for
Speaker 5: office or not, we need more veterans in office. But
Speaker 5: we all need to step up, especially during this crisis
Speaker 5: of suicide. Death by suicide is preventable. Please visit the website.
Speaker 5: It's called it's you know, Face to Fight Initiative, but
Speaker 5: it's we facedfight dot org. They get joined the part.
Speaker 5: If your company or you personally want to join us,
Speaker 5: it's sign up again. It's free. But we need to
Speaker 5: make sure that we break that stigma, that people know
Speaker 5: that there's help out there. We support the best and
Speaker 5: veteran service organizations are out there that are saving lives
Speaker 5: every day. But we all got to be part of solution.
Speaker 5: We just can't just pitch about it.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, least comment Pat and I again, I
Speaker 2: commend everything that you're trying to do. But my dad
Speaker 2: and probably your dad or uncle came back as member
Speaker 2: the Greatest generation after having served, and when you think
Speaker 2: about it, we have Harry Truman was a veteran of
Speaker 2: World War One, Dwight Eisenhower obviously the commander of the
Speaker 2: invasion of Europe D Day. Then you had President Kennedy,
Speaker 2: you had Lyndon Johnson who was a veteran, Richard Nixon,
Speaker 2: Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan. They all served at
Speaker 2: different levels, so we had a span of about you know,
Speaker 2: it was a good thirty years of the Greatest Generation,
Speaker 2: and since then we haven't had as many veterans, certainly
Speaker 2: not the percentage of the Greatest Generation. And that's why
Speaker 2: I hope more veterans, both Republicans and Democrats, Democrats like
Speaker 2: yourself and Republicans like Eli Crane out of Arizona who
Speaker 2: have had on the show get involved politically so that
Speaker 2: you can continue to fight for your brothers and sisters
Speaker 2: in arms up there.
Speaker 5: In the positive, Big Dan, is that on this national ticket,
Speaker 5: just a couple of weeks ago, we did have two
Speaker 5: veterans of the Vice pression, got Tim Walls and JD. Vance,
Speaker 5: both through served Honora Bly both are great a market veterans, uh,
Speaker 5: And so that's a positive part. But I hear you, yep,
Speaker 5: I'm with you in that fight.
Speaker 2: Uh. And what are you doing up in Boston? Is
Speaker 2: this an event you want to plug tomorrow? Is you're
Speaker 2: just up here participating?
Speaker 5: Happened to speaking? It's all the social study teachers in America,
Speaker 5: the leaders of different departments across the country. They're coming
Speaker 5: to Boston. Happens to being Boston this year. It's the
Speaker 5: hundred Forts or at the Convention Center. I'll be speaking
Speaker 5: from about one about one that I think two fifty five.
Speaker 5: So I'm up on stage with Martey me and do
Speaker 5: I serve with and now he's the President U MASS
Speaker 5: He's a great American and we'll be there. It's free
Speaker 5: for folks they want to swing by. But you know,
Speaker 5: we're talking about you know, civics education, about why it's
Speaker 5: important that unfortunately most Americans don't They can't name three
Speaker 5: branch of government, you know, with the executive, legislative, of judicial,
Speaker 5: and it's like rock paper.
Speaker 2: So many people that pat they kn't named their governor,
Speaker 2: they can't named the U. S. Senators, they coun't named
Speaker 2: their congressman. Uh. It is in a a state of
Speaker 2: abysmal ignorance. And I blame a lot of the school
Speaker 2: systems for having downplayed just the concept of civics. I
Speaker 2: had a ninth grade teacher at Boston Latin School many
Speaker 2: years ago. I've mentioned his name before. His name was
Speaker 2: Jim Darerty, mister Daugherty. I got excited about this simply
Speaker 2: by by civics in the ninth grade at Boston Land School.
Speaker 2: And when you see me and tomorrow for me tell him.
Speaker 2: I said, hello. He's a deer and a great and
Speaker 2: an old friend of mine as well. Pat so Patrick Murphy,
Speaker 2: former a Democratic Congressman from Pennsylvania, continuing to fight military
Speaker 2: veteran and also continuing to fight for veterans we facedthfight
Speaker 2: dot Org. Pat Murphy, thank you very much. Pleasure to
Speaker 2: have had you on the show. And anytime you want
Speaker 2: to be on. We could do an hour on this.
Speaker 2: We can do it remotely. We can take phone calls
Speaker 2: from people all over the country on night side, so
Speaker 2: we'll get that much right back at you. Welcome to Boston,
Speaker 2: all right. We gonna break for the news at the
Speaker 2: bottom of the hour. When we come back, gonna talk
Speaker 2: with doctor Danielle Dubin about a new form of skincare,
Speaker 2: beef fat. I'm not sure that she's a big fan
Speaker 2: of this form of skinfare. But we'll find skincare. But
Speaker 2: we will find out. And then at eight forty five,
Speaker 2: the one and the only, the Great Kevin Paul DuPont KPD,
Speaker 2: Boston Bruins legendary Boston Globe Hockey scribe, as he would
Speaker 2: say talking about the firing of former Bruin's coach Jim Montgomery.
Speaker 2: We'll be back on Nightside right after the break at
Speaker 2: the bottom of the hour for the news at a thirty.
Speaker 1: You're on Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Well, I know quite a bit about weight loss, but
Speaker 2: I do not know too much about beef fat, which is,
Speaker 2: as I understand it, the latest skin skincare trend. Yeah,
Speaker 2: beef fat with me is doctor Danielle Dubin. She's a
Speaker 2: germantologist with Mount Sinai Hospital. Doctor Duban, welcome to Nightside.
Speaker 6: Thanks for having me, Dan.
Speaker 2: So beef fat, I what do I do? I take
Speaker 2: the fat off my steak and rub itum. It has
Speaker 2: to be a little more complicated than that. Tell us
Speaker 2: about it. I'm in the dark on this one, doctor,
Speaker 2: I'm all ears.
Speaker 6: Well, it's somewhat like that, but a little bit more refined.
Speaker 6: So beef tallow or beef fat is basically fat that
Speaker 6: they took from whichever animal. In this case we're talking
Speaker 6: about a cow. They melt it down, they strain it
Speaker 6: to get out any impurities, and then they bring it
Speaker 6: back to room temperature and you end up with this
Speaker 6: sort of creamy substance. That's what people are talking about nowadays,
Speaker 6: mostly because I think there's a trend for natural and organic,
Speaker 6: which is why this has recently been trending all over TikTok.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess my question would be, just because it's
Speaker 2: so organic, how did those organic carrots work out a
Speaker 2: week or so ago with the outbreak of E. Coli?
Speaker 2: So is this legitimate? I'm wondering if you're here to
Speaker 2: dispel it or to say, hey, there may be some
Speaker 2: benefits here.
Speaker 6: So what I'll say about beef tallow is that it's possible.
Speaker 6: Theoretically it has some benefits because it does have similar
Speaker 6: properties to our own skin. It's very high in triglyceride,
Speaker 6: vitamin AD, E K, and B twelve. But the caveat
Speaker 6: being it hasn't really been studied at all in human models.
Speaker 6: Anything that's out there in terms of efficacy is based
Speaker 6: off of stories or based off of mice models. So
Speaker 6: maybe we're onto something, but it hasn't been scientifically proven
Speaker 6: at all. Versus, there's so many other great products out
Speaker 6: there that have been extensively researched, natural products such as
Speaker 6: virt Extra Virtic, coconut oil, sunflower seed oil, tumoric that
Speaker 6: have been studied and those do work. The beef tallow
Speaker 6: might be the next thing. Who knows, it just needs
Speaker 6: to be investigated.
Speaker 2: More so, how does something like this get off the
Speaker 2: ground without, you know, some formal government testing and government approval?
Speaker 2: Is there? You know some gen xer or gen z
Speaker 2: you know movie star who who is pushing some some
Speaker 2: product on a late night TV show? What's the story
Speaker 2: to hear? You must know what's going on. I have
Speaker 2: no clue about this one, because when I read this today,
Speaker 2: I thought to myself, Wow, I think.
Speaker 6: That it hasn't really originated from any one source as
Speaker 6: much as people in general wanting to have something more
Speaker 6: natural and being able to say this is some you know,
Speaker 6: animal drive block products. But to that point about it
Speaker 6: being natural and organic, I will say, the only study
Speaker 6: that they have done is shown that beef powow is
Speaker 6: bad for the marine life, So don't put on the
Speaker 6: beef towel and then go out into the ocean because
Speaker 6: you're going to hurt their beefs. But I'm not sure
Speaker 6: where it came from. I think sometimes things trend on TikTok.
Speaker 6: I mean, there were people who were eating tide pots
Speaker 6: two years ago for no good reason. So I'm not
Speaker 6: really sure where the beef towel came from, but it's here,
Speaker 6: and I think it's worth to be investigated further.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there's this. There's this, this article from a
Speaker 2: couple of days ago. I think it's the Washington Post
Speaker 2: has the latest skincare trend, be fat, Yes, be fat,
Speaker 2: and it's exactly what you say. Beef tallow or rendered.
Speaker 2: Be fat is lauded on TikTok as a natural skincare
Speaker 2: treatment dermatologists say may help soften dry skin, but it's
Speaker 2: no better than conventional moisturizers. And I just know there's
Speaker 2: something about that that that kind of freaks me out. Apparently,
Speaker 2: some found some fellow named Hunter Block Uh founded a
Speaker 2: mallow with his wife, Lauren Uh, and they're they're big
Speaker 2: part of the story. I had never heard of them.
Speaker 2: When did when did this first sort of catch your
Speaker 2: You follow this closer than I do? When, Uh, when
Speaker 2: do you? When? When did you first catch this story?
Speaker 6: So there's been rumblings around the internet for several months,
Speaker 6: but I think I probably started hearing about about it
Speaker 6: back in twenty twenty three, but it definitely gained moment,
Speaker 6: especially where you have these companies that are marketing in
Speaker 6: such a way that it has the essential oils and
Speaker 6: added to it, so it's not just like putting on
Speaker 6: some befat. It's like it's more cosmetically elegant, it smells better.
Speaker 6: So it's been picking up steam in that regard, but
Speaker 6: I'm not sure exactly how circulating, because beef tallow actually
Speaker 6: does a back century for being used for skincare purposes.
Speaker 6: So there's nothing new under the sun.
Speaker 2: As they say that, that's pretty surprising. So you mean,
Speaker 2: when you say centuries, you're talking about five to a
Speaker 2: thousand years ago people were somehow thought they know how
Speaker 2: they figured it out, or fifteen hundred or something. To me,
Speaker 2: it's fascinating that with all of the testing sites that
Speaker 2: we have and so much that we have done, there's
Speaker 2: always something new that comes along or pretends it's to
Speaker 2: be new, but it's maybe, as you said, a derivative
Speaker 2: of something that was used by our ancestors centuries agoogists.
Speaker 2: You're a dermatologist, would you try this at this point
Speaker 2: or no?
Speaker 6: So I never say never. I would always try something.
Speaker 6: But if I'm ever going to try something new, what
Speaker 6: I advise myself as all as my patients is that
Speaker 6: do a test spot of it and apply it to
Speaker 6: that test spot for seven to ten days and make
Speaker 6: sure you don't develop any reaction. If you don't develop
Speaker 6: a reaction, you find that it's helpful in the area
Speaker 6: that you're using it by all means. But I will
Speaker 6: say I think there's much more effective treatments out there
Speaker 6: for dry skins. And when it comes to acne, I
Speaker 6: would be very careful because there is some TikTok going
Speaker 6: around that that is helpful for acne. But I would
Speaker 6: argue the opposite. You're basically putting unrefined sat on the
Speaker 6: face that it's going to block up the board even more.
Speaker 6: But every person should do a test spot before before
Speaker 6: incorporating into their regime.
Speaker 2: So would you would you say test bot? I assume
Speaker 2: you're talking about like some where on the inside of
Speaker 2: your forearm or the inside of your wrist, somewhere that
Speaker 2: that is easily accessible. And even if it does cause
Speaker 2: a little bit of a rash, it's not going to
Speaker 2: cause a rash on your face or in your forehead
Speaker 2: or something like that. You're not saying you take do
Speaker 2: a test.
Speaker 6: One's what you're using it for. So if you're going
Speaker 6: to be using it for general moisturizer on the body,
Speaker 6: sure do a te pot anywhere that's not visible. But
Speaker 6: if you're going to be using on your face, which
Speaker 6: again I'm not sure I would recommend, I would do
Speaker 6: a TEP spot on a discrete area of your neck
Speaker 6: because the skin texture there is going to be more
Speaker 6: similar to that of your face.
Speaker 2: Great well, very helpful information. Danielle Dubin. Doctor Danielle Dubin,
Speaker 2: thank you very much, and thank you for taking some
Speaker 2: time tonight, you know for us. Really do appreciate it.
Speaker 2: I learned a lot from this. I'm not going up
Speaker 2: tomorrow and buying any beefat for myself, really honest with you,
Speaker 2: but I probably wouldn't have bought it anyway. Thank you,
Speaker 2: doctor Dubin. Thank you so much.
Speaker 6: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: You're welcome. We get back and talk a little bit
Speaker 2: of hot The Bruins have a new coach and interim coach,
Speaker 2: Joe Sachel. We're going to talk with Kevin Paul DuPont.
Speaker 2: There's nobody in Boston that knows the history of the
Speaker 2: Bruins better than I. In my opinion, that Kevin Paul
Speaker 2: DuPont will be back right after this with more on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World
Speaker 1: nights Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Well, the Bruins have had an interesting start this hockey season.
Speaker 2: They're about one quarter of the way through the season,
Speaker 2: and nobody that I know of has more insight and
Speaker 2: perspective on the Original Six and and their newer playmates
Speaker 2: than the great Kevin Paul DuPont at the Boston Globe. Kevin,
Speaker 2: how are you tonight?
Speaker 4: H Well, Dan, how are you?
Speaker 2: Great to be with you. It's great to have an
Speaker 2: Original Six game going on at the Garden tonight between
Speaker 2: the Boston Bruins and the Utah Hockey Club formerly the
Speaker 2: Phoenix Coyotes. Formally, where were they before Phoenix? I'm trying
Speaker 2: to I want to.
Speaker 4: Well, they were they were Arizona, and then they previous
Speaker 4: that there they were Phoenix, but before that they were Winnipeg.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, sure, yeah they weren't. They weren't the California
Speaker 2: Golden Seals. That's all. No, no, So it's it's tough
Speaker 2: to watch Montgomery get axed the other day. He was
Speaker 2: not somebody who had been here a long time, but
Speaker 2: he certainly had some New England roots, and it looked
Speaker 2: to me as if he lost the locker room.
Speaker 4: What do you think, Yeah, it's it's always difficult to
Speaker 4: tell that. I what what he definitely lost was was
Speaker 4: the ability to come up with any answers to to to.
Speaker 4: You know, I hesitate to say motivate these guys, But
Speaker 4: I'm a little reluctant to say that he lost the
Speaker 4: room because within the last two weeks they fell behind
Speaker 4: in another bad game in his hometown, which is Saint
Speaker 4: Louis Now. They fell behind two all after forty minutes,
Speaker 4: and then they rallied back for three goals in the
Speaker 4: third and they won it. So if you've packed it
Speaker 4: in on the coach, or if you quit, it's hard,
Speaker 4: it's you know, it'd very hard to rally back with
Speaker 4: three goals. I just think I think it's a confluence
Speaker 4: of reasons here, Dan, but among them is they don't
Speaker 4: have that much talent in the lineup. That doesn't let
Speaker 4: them off the hook for their bad performance here over
Speaker 4: the first quarter. But it is true. It's not a
Speaker 4: great team. And if you know, if you followed along,
Speaker 4: they've lost a whole lot of talent and culture in
Speaker 4: the last few years, with losing Rask, losing Chara, losing Bergeron,
Speaker 4: losing Cretchy. The truth is you're not going to go
Speaker 4: out and just replace Bergeron and just replace Chara, who's
Speaker 4: really the greatest free agent hire in the history of
Speaker 4: the game. But they haven't replentied underneath with kids who've
Speaker 4: got some of that talent, and that's because of poor
Speaker 4: drafting and some bad traits.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like some of the signings from last
Speaker 2: last summer or have not quite worked out. Look, Jeremy
Speaker 2: Swayman had a holdout. How do you allow a situation
Speaker 2: like that to to develop. I mean, such a critical
Speaker 2: player played so well even in losing last spring looked
Speaker 2: like the reincarnation of Jacques plant And yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: probably no one else in the audience knows who we're
Speaker 2: talking about. We talked about Jaques plant but that's that's
Speaker 2: neither Hood Gump Worseley. But that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 2: What it isn't a question of timing. I kind of
Speaker 2: think it's a question of conditioning. What's happened to Swayman.
Speaker 2: You know, a bad baseball players going to slumps. But
Speaker 2: this is a pretty big stump for goaltender.
Speaker 4: It is, And so much of the gold tend game.
Speaker 4: You can talk about mechanics and technique, they're all pretty
Speaker 4: much the same now in terms of technique, I think
Speaker 4: more than anything with Swaymen. And this sounds sort of
Speaker 4: a thin or maybe excuse, which I don't mean it
Speaker 4: to be, but so much of the position for a
Speaker 4: good goalie is confidence or any goalie, but you get
Speaker 4: a guy who's he's got legitimate tality. He's proven that.
Speaker 4: Whether he's a franchise goalie, we're not sure. Certainly they've
Speaker 4: paid him that money to be a franchise goalie, and
Speaker 4: their reluctance to do that was they were saying they
Speaker 4: weren't convinced yet. So right now it's looking like maybe
Speaker 4: they were right. He's still got something to prove here.
Speaker 4: I think what will happen with Jeremy Swayman is he'll
Speaker 4: get reframed in this reset with the coach and he'll
Speaker 4: start to gain some confidence. That's what you would hope anyway,
Speaker 4: And I've got enough belief having watched him these last
Speaker 4: two to three years, I think he'll come back and
Speaker 4: start being more than at goaltender.
Speaker 2: Have you had a chance to spend any time in
Speaker 2: the road with these guys this year?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and they'll be in Detroit.
Speaker 2: You know what, what are the other what are the
Speaker 2: other you know, writers and broadcasters around the league asking you,
Speaker 2: because there must be some questions that, Sannio, what's going on?
Speaker 4: Yeah? The common the common one has been how is
Speaker 4: it Montgomery's fault? Given the two years he had? If
Speaker 4: you go back two years, Danny at the best regular
Speaker 4: season record in the history of the game sixty five
Speaker 4: twelve and five hit a very good last year, a
Speaker 4: very good season last year, especially given the fact that
Speaker 4: that was the first year without Craigie and bergermon So
Speaker 4: the focus really has been on, you know, where are
Speaker 4: they in terms of talent? And why why should this
Speaker 4: be Montgomery's issue? And that's that's legitimate when you've got
Speaker 4: a guy who's performed that well and you look at
Speaker 4: what he did these past two years. Part of this
Speaker 4: is this is systemic. Is that what we've touched on
Speaker 4: here is some bad trades, bad free agent signings. Is
Speaker 4: once you kind of solidify your team with that July
Speaker 4: one free agency, which is a free agency period that
Speaker 4: really lasts about six hours at most because the top
Speaker 4: end talent it's free gets signed. Once you come out
Speaker 4: of that, that's your team. You know, that's really your
Speaker 4: team until the March trade deadline because most of these
Speaker 4: guys who are top end players have guaranteed contracts. That's
Speaker 4: the case with this team. No move guaranteed, no trade clauses.
Speaker 4: So again your maneuverability. You can play around Dan with
Speaker 4: the third and fourth lines and the sixth and seventh defenseman,
Speaker 4: but big in season trades, they just don't happen. What
Speaker 4: you see is some inter moves the trade deadline because
Speaker 4: the six or eight or ten teams that are out
Speaker 4: of it, they'll move some talent ahead of losing them
Speaker 4: as free agents. And they did that here. You remember
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago they went out and got
Speaker 4: half away, they went out and got Orloft, they went
Speaker 4: on and got Bertuzzi, and it looked like they were
Speaker 4: loaded going into the playoffs, and of course they got
Speaker 4: bounced in the first round by Florida.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's frustrating. It's funny. I think of all
Speaker 2: the four major sports, this is the one that is
Speaker 2: most team dependent. Meaning if you get a great pitch
Speaker 2: and that can carry in baseball, if you've got a
Speaker 2: great quarterbacks as we found out here, that can go
Speaker 2: a long way. And in basketball, if you got a
Speaker 2: couple of real good players, you can you can surround
Speaker 2: them with some bad players. But if you have a
Speaker 2: weakness in hockey, third line, fourth line, you know, second
Speaker 2: tier defense, it's gonna it's gonna bite you every time.
Speaker 2: And that's what makes me a little bit concerned that
Speaker 2: this team's going to have a tough, a tough road.
Speaker 2: They may win tonight against Utah, they're up one nothing
Speaker 2: going in third period, but when the better teams come in,
Speaker 2: I wonder if they had the talent to match up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, your point about all parts being important or bang on, Dan,
Speaker 4: you know you do have to have the third line,
Speaker 4: the third line, guys you've got to have the goaltender,
Speaker 4: if you know. I think they did a lot here
Speaker 4: with what I call the holy trinity of a good team,
Speaker 4: which is franchise defenseman in Sharra, franchise goalie in Rask,
Speaker 4: franchise center and berger on. Not a lot of teams
Speaker 4: get those, get the holy trinity like that. So not
Speaker 4: unlike owing to the B s O. Dan, You know, yes,
Speaker 4: everyone focuses on the on the great violins, right and uh,
Speaker 4: you know what what else would you what do you
Speaker 4: focus on? But the truth of it is you still
Speaker 4: have to have the fat guy in back who plays
Speaker 4: the tuba, and that makes the concert too.
Speaker 2: And what about the guy with the triangle that would
Speaker 2: have been that would have been my instrument if I
Speaker 2: was in the B s O. That's that's that's critical
Speaker 2: to hey, Kevin.
Speaker 4: Great Christmas pops where the guy in the back plays
Speaker 4: those clapper.
Speaker 2: Things critical critical, Kevin. Great to catch up with you.
Speaker 2: I miss seeing you at the rink because I'm doing
Speaker 2: this nighttime talk show here and I well, we'll have
Speaker 2: to catch up. You're one of the great guys in
Speaker 2: this business. Hall of Fame, writer and observer of a
Speaker 2: great game thanks, thanks my friend. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 4: Okay, very nice, Dan, thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Very welcome. Thanks Kevin, talk soon we get back. We're
Speaker 2: going to talk about something that is also a much
Speaker 2: maligned to organization, that's the m bt A and will
Speaker 2: we will get after it. I promise you. We're going
Speaker 2: to be talking with the the executive director of the
Speaker 2: MBTA Advisory Board, a very important person, Brian Kin, right
Speaker 2: after the nine o'clock news here on night Side