WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.519 --> 00:00:06.559 Weird thing happened. 2 00:00:10.279 --> 00:00:23.879 Weird, Weird, Weird. 3 00:00:26.320 --> 00:00:29.399 Welcome to episode one ninety one of bleds have said. So, 4 00:00:29.519 --> 00:00:32.960 we have a very very honorable special guest with us 5 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:35.479 here in the studio today. Real quick, I just wanted 6 00:00:35.520 --> 00:00:39.479 to talk about an event coming up in May in Delavan, Wisconsin, 7 00:00:40.119 --> 00:00:43.840 from May second to May fourth. My father, my wife, 8 00:00:43.880 --> 00:00:47.640 and I will be at the Contact Modalities Expo. My 9 00:00:47.719 --> 00:00:49.640 dad will be the keynote speaker. It's gonna be an 10 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:52.600 awesome event. There's gonna be like three conference rooms running 11 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:56.479 simultaneously throughout the whole weekend with like all kinds of amazing. 12 00:00:57.079 --> 00:00:57.240 Uh. 13 00:00:57.679 --> 00:01:03.119 There's gonna be like Shaman's breath workers, yoga, Crystal bowl therapists. 14 00:01:03.159 --> 00:01:06.000 It's it's gonna be insane, and we're gonna do a 15 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:09.799 SkyWatch Friday night. We're gonna have a cocktail party on 16 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:12.719 Saturday with a DJ. Everybody's gonna be hanging out in 17 00:01:12.799 --> 00:01:15.280 a big luncheon and it's really gonna just be like 18 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:20.560 a party, but consciousness themed. So anyway, I hope to 19 00:01:20.560 --> 00:01:22.319 see you guys there. You can get your tickets at 20 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:29.159 Contact Modalities xpo dot com. Now, the guest that we 21 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:32.560 have in the studio today is incredible. I met her 22 00:01:32.840 --> 00:01:37.120 last year at the Monroe Institute. I hope this is 23 00:01:37.159 --> 00:01:40.120 okay that I introduce you as the CEO of the 24 00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:42.000 Monroe Institute. We have Alan Evans. 25 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:45.439 Welcome, Alan, thank you glad to be here. 26 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:49.920 Yes, very very like shocked that you were willing to 27 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:50.480 do this. 28 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:54.159 Pleasure. 29 00:01:54.239 --> 00:01:56.239 We are incredibly blessed. 30 00:01:56.680 --> 00:01:57.120 Thank you. 31 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:00.959 Absolutely, Yeah, especially after just having a really really cool 32 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:06.120 experience just a couple of months ago with the Creation station. 33 00:02:06.599 --> 00:02:08.599 Yes, one of our programs. 34 00:02:08.599 --> 00:02:11.759 Really was profound. So it's been in our heads, it's 35 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:14.759 fresh in our heads a lot, you know, So it's exciting, 36 00:02:14.960 --> 00:02:15.479 very excited. 37 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:17.599 That's the neat thing about it is that we want 38 00:02:17.639 --> 00:02:19.879 you to have the experience. So that's what we're doing. 39 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:23.439 We're setting up experience for you, and that's that's the 40 00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:24.120 game changer. 41 00:02:24.759 --> 00:02:27.120 Yeah, it really is. It was profound. It was awesome, 42 00:02:27.199 --> 00:02:29.319 and we we've been so busy, we still have yet 43 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:33.360 to like dive deep into what happened and our personal 44 00:02:33.400 --> 00:02:37.639 experiences and stuff. But I mean, it truly was so 45 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:42.280 profound and life changing, and Ignasio is amazing, and it 46 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:46.000 was it was a blessings. 47 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:47.479 A brother for sure. He's an amazing human being. I 48 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:49.439 think we finally figured out what like next week we're 49 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:50.479 going to talk about it. 50 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:54.639 Yeah, oh good, Yeah, okay, we watched that episode. 51 00:02:54.759 --> 00:02:57.159 Yeah, yeah, for sure. It was great. 52 00:02:57.159 --> 00:02:58.879 We did it back in December. 53 00:02:59.120 --> 00:02:59.719 December. 54 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:02.080 It's just been that busy, it really is, you know, 55 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:04.520 but yeah, I'm excited about that. It was amazing. It 56 00:03:04.560 --> 00:03:07.919 was transformative, and I think you know what that's like, Yes, 57 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:12.080 you know, being the CEO of Monroe. So I'd love 58 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:13.639 to get into that. I know you've told me this 59 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:16.080 story twice. I know, we talked about it over dinner. 60 00:03:17.120 --> 00:03:18.879 Jenny said, I know you're going to talk about it, 61 00:03:18.879 --> 00:03:20.919 but you know you told the story. But I would 62 00:03:20.960 --> 00:03:24.039 love to hear again and as much as little detail 63 00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:28.240 as you like, Like what was your journey becoming the 64 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:30.039 CEO of Monroe. 65 00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:34.560 So in my late twenties, I got on this mission 66 00:03:35.280 --> 00:03:38.039 that I wanted to be more psychic. And after I 67 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:41.000 got to graduate school in Lubbock, Texas, I started having 68 00:03:41.039 --> 00:03:46.120 these experiences, these introductions to this psychic world, and it 69 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:48.159 made me curious. First of all, so I started reading 70 00:03:48.199 --> 00:03:51.400 a lot of books pre internet, so it was books, 71 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:54.080 library books. And then there was a bookstore called the 72 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:55.159 Odyssey Bookstore. 73 00:03:55.360 --> 00:03:56.159 I love that name. 74 00:03:56.280 --> 00:04:01.319 Had weird books in it, really strange books that I 75 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:05.000 have never ever been exposed to before, you know. So 76 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:08.080 once I got to Lewick, Texas, it really my world 77 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:10.319 has changed. And one of the first books I read 78 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:14.560 was by Edgar Casey, right, the Sleeping. 79 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:16.079 Prophet Awesome, we talk about. 80 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:19.920 Him, And what got my attention was there was this 81 00:04:19.959 --> 00:04:25.680 man who could predict things and it was verifiable. So 82 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:28.839 that was like, okay. So I just got on this 83 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:32.279 quest and then I had some experiences with psychics, and 84 00:04:32.360 --> 00:04:34.720 I thought, I want to learn how to do this myself. 85 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:36.680 You know, I don't I don't want the as I 86 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:38.959 say the middle man. I don't I want to. I 87 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:42.120 want to know myself because you know, also that person 88 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:45.839 that psychic is an interpreter sometimes, so if I have 89 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:50.560 my own experience, I'm interpreting it. So I was like, okay, 90 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:52.839 how do I do this? And so I started reading books, 91 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:58.959 still continued to read books, and I realized about the 92 00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:02.160 third book, ind of a psychic trying to teach me 93 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:05.120 how to be a psychic, that they came into this 94 00:05:05.160 --> 00:05:08.120 world gifted what I considered gifted already they didn't have 95 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:10.600 to learn. I mean, I was in my late twenties. 96 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:14.879 I wasn't psychic, you know, and so I knew I 97 00:05:14.920 --> 00:05:17.560 had to learn a different way. So that I was like, okay, 98 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:20.839 I got to put a program together, and I also 99 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:22.399 want to do you know, Once I do that, I 100 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:25.839 can teach it to everybody, you know. So then I 101 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:30.680 again read books and I put together dream analysis meditating. 102 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:33.959 And I didn't really know what meditating was, you know. 103 00:05:34.199 --> 00:05:35.519 I would read a book and try to do what 104 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:39.079 they said. But it started working. Then as I was 105 00:05:39.079 --> 00:05:42.040 reading these books, there were authors who would mention the 106 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:46.040 Monroe Institute and I'm like, oh, where is this place? 107 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:48.879 And this is a mystery. But it was pre internet again, 108 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:52.600 so I didn't know much about it, where it was, 109 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:55.319 how I was it going to find it? And then 110 00:05:55.399 --> 00:06:02.199 I had a child. That means I got you know, yeah, 111 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:05.199 And it took me until two thousand and eight, oh 112 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:06.519 to get back to it. 113 00:06:06.759 --> 00:06:09.600 I was wondering, yeah that now I. 114 00:06:09.519 --> 00:06:12.639 Do want to say something here though I still was dabbling, 115 00:06:12.759 --> 00:06:15.720 you know, even though I was focused on family and 116 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:18.920 raising my daughter. It wasn't that I gave it all up. 117 00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:22.879 I just wasn't seeking it on the same level. So 118 00:06:22.920 --> 00:06:25.600 I was still doing dream analysis and still meditating when 119 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:28.480 I could find time, but I just it was kind 120 00:06:28.519 --> 00:06:30.240 of directionless and. 121 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:33.839 Dream analysis I'm sorry, dream analysis. You mean you're you're 122 00:06:33.879 --> 00:06:36.879 waking up and immediately like kind of interpreting your dreams 123 00:06:36.920 --> 00:06:39.160 writing down. Yeah, well, okay, okay. 124 00:06:39.120 --> 00:06:42.079 And for me, I feel like that's a for anyone searching. 125 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:44.399 I really think that's a key way or one of 126 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:46.959 the key ways to do it. Because you learn a 127 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:51.879 nonverbal language, you also learn and the way I look 128 00:06:51.879 --> 00:06:54.879 at it is, Okay, if I get I have a 129 00:06:55.120 --> 00:07:00.040 symbol of a rose in a dream, then because I 130 00:07:00.199 --> 00:07:05.240 worked with this and and made interpretations about different symbols, 131 00:07:05.759 --> 00:07:09.480 then I've got a communication system. So either my higher 132 00:07:09.519 --> 00:07:13.600 self or total self or guides can send me messages 133 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:16.879 because they know what I think it will be, you know. 134 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:19.959 So it's a it took many years, you know for 135 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:23.279 me to do that, but I always can figure things 136 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:25.680 out now because I've created that language. 137 00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:29.560 Wow, that's a fascinating way to describe it. Yeah, Like 138 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:32.240 your gods like know what you're looking for kind of thing, 139 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:33.879 and so they can send you a little wake hants 140 00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:34.480 and stuff. 141 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:39.120 So just as an example, a simplistic example, and you've 142 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:41.639 maybe you've had this stream before where your teeth are 143 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:42.160 falling out. 144 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:45.040 I haven't, but I have. 145 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:50.319 It all right, So I as I worked with it, 146 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:53.480 I decided or figured out that that meant, and I 147 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:56.279 used the dream dictionaries, you know, to get some of 148 00:07:56.319 --> 00:08:00.680 my information, but I would exclude the superstitions. So if 149 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:02.920 it's like, if your teeth are falling out, financial doom, 150 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:06.639 I would just go no, yeah, that's not what's happening here. 151 00:08:06.959 --> 00:08:12.480 Edgar Casey has a wonderful dream dictionary references a lot. 152 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:16.560 Yeah, you want to be careful your source, definitely, but 153 00:08:17.639 --> 00:08:18.800 I have now forgot where I was. 154 00:08:19.480 --> 00:08:20.399 Your teeth are falling out. 155 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:27.680 Yeah, okay, so your teeth are falling out. So I 156 00:08:27.800 --> 00:08:31.920 decided or determine that when I had that dream, that 157 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:35.799 it meant I was giving away my personal power. So 158 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:39.759 then I could go back to the day before, or 159 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:41.960 you know, a few days before, to try to figure 160 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:48.200 out when I did it, and then then you learn interesting. Wow, Okay, 161 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:50.600 So meditation is the same way. You're in a meditation, 162 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:54.600 you get information and then you can apply, you know, 163 00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:56.159 look at what's going on in your life. 164 00:08:56.639 --> 00:08:59.399 Yeah, I'm big on that because I have like a 165 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:04.159 psychology degree undergrad and learning about like oh really yeah wow, 166 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:06.600 I was curious about that too. That's amazing. We really 167 00:09:06.600 --> 00:09:07.480 have a similar path. 168 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:09.840 Yes, I made, I just didn't get a degree. 169 00:09:10.159 --> 00:09:16.080 Okay, Yeah, that's that's that's amazing, like the similarities between 170 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:19.840 our our background and I resonate with a lot of 171 00:09:19.879 --> 00:09:23.240 what you're saying. Yeah, personally and always being curious about dreams. 172 00:09:23.320 --> 00:09:26.240 I've never had a good source for dream dictionary. It's 173 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:27.639 kind of just Google, so. 174 00:09:27.639 --> 00:09:30.039 I would actually I found that to be a good 175 00:09:30.120 --> 00:09:32.759 one now okay, but just because of all the information 176 00:09:32.840 --> 00:09:35.879 that's out there, it seems to pull the best definitions. 177 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:38.279 But it didn't used to. But now that's what I do. 178 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:39.120 I just google it. 179 00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:43.679 Yeah. Interesting, does Jung ring a bell? Carl Jung? Yeah, 180 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:46.000 like the collective unconscious, that's kind of hitting all the 181 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:50.720 same concept right, Like the subconscious knows these archetypal symbols, 182 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:53.320 So I guess that makes sense, like your guides or 183 00:09:53.360 --> 00:09:56.799 your higher self or whoever is like, you know, here's 184 00:09:56.840 --> 00:09:59.360 this symbol that you can interpret that has some sort 185 00:09:59.360 --> 00:10:03.120 of meaning that you know. So that's fascinating stuff. 186 00:10:04.080 --> 00:10:07.360 So anyway, I was doing all these things, read about 187 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:11.320 the institute, and then I got distracted. And then in 188 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:14.360 two thousand and nine, no, two thousand and eight, November. 189 00:10:14.480 --> 00:10:17.720 I remember November two thousand and eight, my daughter and 190 00:10:17.759 --> 00:10:21.200 I went to the bookstore and I just didn't have 191 00:10:21.240 --> 00:10:23.320 anything I was thinking about buying. So I just walked 192 00:10:23.399 --> 00:10:27.240 up and down an aisle and I saw this book. 193 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:31.240 And the book was the Journey of Robert Monroe. And 194 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:33.360 I was like, this is it? You know, this isn't 195 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:36.639 so coo? Yes, And I'd been reading about it, so 196 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:38.200 I had to, you know, I bought it, of course, 197 00:10:38.600 --> 00:10:41.399 and I bought it. I read it really quickly, and 198 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:43.440 before I had finished reading it, I had bought the 199 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:48.679 entire Gateway series. At Gateway Wave series at the time 200 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:53.279 there were six now they're eight disks, no well series. 201 00:10:53.320 --> 00:10:56.799 So each each set, each series has six I think 202 00:10:56.840 --> 00:11:01.279 five or six exercises, oh wow, meditations. So I just 203 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:04.759 blew through that. And the interesting thing is I've talked 204 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:08.159 to people over the years. Some people you'll do it 205 00:11:08.200 --> 00:11:10.799 one of two ways. You'll either just go through it 206 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:13.159 like I did, like I'll do this. Then I want 207 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:15.080 to do this, you know, keep doing it, keep doing it, 208 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:17.000 and I might make a note I'll go back to 209 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:20.320 that one, or you want to master it, so you'll 210 00:11:20.480 --> 00:11:23.000 keep listening to the same exercise over and over and 211 00:11:23.080 --> 00:11:26.840 over until you feel like you're ready for the next one. 212 00:11:26.879 --> 00:11:28.679 So I was the first way. I just. 213 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:35.320 I love that because I've heard from people at the institute. 214 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:39.320 I've heard both ways recommended, you know, or people saying 215 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:41.960 like Ignacia, for example, he talks like the second path, 216 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:45.480 like you know, yeah, and then it's interesting to hear 217 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:47.519 from you. I'm more like you. I just want to 218 00:11:47.559 --> 00:11:48.320 blow through it. 219 00:11:49.080 --> 00:11:51.159 So I blew through it. And before I was through, 220 00:11:51.279 --> 00:11:53.639 I was like, I have to go. I don't care 221 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:57.159 how I go. I don't have the money, but you know, 222 00:11:57.360 --> 00:11:59.559 I don't care. And I had to figure out what 223 00:11:59.559 --> 00:12:02.360 to do with my young daughter, which I did, and 224 00:12:02.399 --> 00:12:05.399 then I was there by March. So read the book 225 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:10.639 in November two thousand and eight. There in March, and 226 00:12:10.679 --> 00:12:13.080 the minute I walked into the place, and I think 227 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:17.679 we've had this conversation before. I was overcome by or 228 00:12:17.720 --> 00:12:21.279 overwhelmed by this feeling of you are home. 229 00:12:21.639 --> 00:12:23.039 Yeah, oh wow, that's beautiful. 230 00:12:23.039 --> 00:12:25.480 And I mean, I wasn't expecting it. You know, I'm 231 00:12:25.480 --> 00:12:29.399 just showing up, nervous about what am I getting myself into. 232 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:32.840 And that was like it was washed over me. You 233 00:12:32.879 --> 00:12:33.279 are home. 234 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:37.000 Yeah, you went by yourself. Yeah, oh yeah, that's it 235 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:39.440 is brave. You said it earlier. It is brave. 236 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:42.080 Don't well, I didn't know anybody to ask to go 237 00:12:42.120 --> 00:12:42.480 with me. 238 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:45.320 It's still like, that's that can be kind of scary. 239 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:47.679 It is in this place. You don't know exactly what 240 00:12:47.720 --> 00:12:48.759 you're reading about it. 241 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:52.720 Yeah, I actually just this is funny. So I coached 242 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:55.759 myself on the way there and I was like, okay, 243 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:58.000 you probably you know, you just don't have to talk 244 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:00.360 to people. They'll all be weird, and so you can 245 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:02.480 just you know, you just hang out by yourself. It'll 246 00:13:02.480 --> 00:13:04.679 be okay. You can do that for a week. That's, 247 00:13:04.799 --> 00:13:07.240 you know, what I told myself. Of course I didn't, 248 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:10.120 you know, people are normal and regular and fun, and 249 00:13:10.360 --> 00:13:12.360 I didn't like to do that, right, I didn't have 250 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:14.360 to do that. It was a great group of us 251 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:15.120 that showed up. 252 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:20.120 But so then back back then, you said two thousand 253 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:21.159 and eight, two thousand and nine. 254 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:22.720 Two thousand and eight, read the book two thousand and 255 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:23.200 nine guys. 256 00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:27.840 Yeah, it was just a Gateway or they had. 257 00:13:27.679 --> 00:13:30.000 A few more programs. Is that what you're asking? 258 00:13:30.039 --> 00:13:31.399 Yeah, yeah, what kind of programs? 259 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:36.720 So it's our core programs that we still have, like Guidelines, Lifeline, Heartline, 260 00:13:36.879 --> 00:13:39.919 So they already had those programs going cool, but we've 261 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:41.200 added a lot since. 262 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:43.519 Oh yeah, absolutely, Yeah, I'll. 263 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:46.000 Be doing Guidelines in July. Yeah, I'm very excited, excited, 264 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:48.600 very excited. I have no idea what to expect, but 265 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:53.200 I didn't for Gateway, and my expectations were far exceeded. 266 00:13:53.279 --> 00:13:53.679 Yeah. 267 00:13:53.720 --> 00:13:56.200 And I'm telling you every thought that you're describing that 268 00:13:56.240 --> 00:13:59.320 you had I had. I'm nervous. I'm going to be 269 00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:01.639 I'm not going to make friends, even though it's all 270 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:04.080 content creators. I'm like, I'm not going to make friends. 271 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:06.440 I'm gonna be the weird guy. And then I get 272 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:08.679 there and I'm actually like the normal guy. Right, We're 273 00:14:08.720 --> 00:14:11.559 all normal, right, and we're all cool and we're all friends, 274 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:12.639 and well, you know, the. 275 00:14:12.600 --> 00:14:15.519 Beauty of it is, it's it's an every time. Every 276 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:18.399 program is different, but it's an interesting group that shows up, 277 00:14:19.039 --> 00:14:21.360 and it can be a seventy year old there with 278 00:14:21.440 --> 00:14:23.600 a twenty something year old you know, and just from 279 00:14:23.639 --> 00:14:29.000 all backgrounds, and it's wonderful because yeah, you just you 280 00:14:29.080 --> 00:14:32.759 meet people that you maybe haven't the type of person 281 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:36.519 maybe you haven't met before, but it's so supportive that 282 00:14:36.600 --> 00:14:37.639 it just works. 283 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:40.919 Yeah, it just works. I think of Monroe just having 284 00:14:40.960 --> 00:14:43.679 been there once and then staying in contact. 285 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:46.879 As you know, you know, and yeah, we can't get 286 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:47.240 rid of it. 287 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:53.480 I don't think that'll be an easy task. But yeah, 288 00:14:53.600 --> 00:14:55.840 just having been there myself, the feeling that I get 289 00:14:55.960 --> 00:14:59.120 is Monroe really is just like a great beacon that 290 00:14:59.279 --> 00:15:03.440 attracts peop people who are like you described, like I've 291 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:06.320 been through like these guys also, you know, have felt 292 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:09.960 at some point that like sometimes you're just in deep 293 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:13.039 need of an experience of something other. Yeah, you know 294 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:15.639 what I mean. And I do feel like Monroe is 295 00:15:15.759 --> 00:15:18.720 that great place where people can go and they can 296 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:22.879 have that real genuine experience with the other. But it's 297 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:26.399 not weird, it's not scary. It's actually pretty normal and 298 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:28.840 maybe even a little scientific, you know. 299 00:15:29.519 --> 00:15:32.600 Yeah, and people have different motivations too, So you might 300 00:15:32.639 --> 00:15:35.919 really be into remote viewing and that's your motivation. Maybe 301 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:37.919 you want to have an out of body that's your motivation. 302 00:15:38.039 --> 00:15:39.440 I was wanting to be more psychic. 303 00:15:40.240 --> 00:15:41.720 I wanted to learn more about myself. 304 00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:46.559 That's a really good motivation. That's a better motivation. 305 00:15:47.759 --> 00:15:48.679 I mean, it's the same thing. 306 00:15:49.519 --> 00:15:50.919 That's really that's what happens. 307 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:54.240 And then it branches off into so many different sub 308 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:57.279 sects and like these these really like the heart line 309 00:15:57.360 --> 00:16:01.639 and the lifeline and that stuff is so fascinating to me. 310 00:16:01.759 --> 00:16:03.679 I'd love to do one of those one day. That'd 311 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:06.279 be really awesome. But I had a I had a 312 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:09.639 blast doing Creation Station and even doing it from home, 313 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:13.799 like over zoom, I'm like, is this really gonna be 314 00:16:13.799 --> 00:16:16.039 Before we did it, I'm like, Okay, this will be cool, 315 00:16:16.039 --> 00:16:18.000 but is it really gonna be that big a deal? 316 00:16:18.559 --> 00:16:21.360 Day one we did it and I was like, oh man, 317 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:24.919 I don't I don't know what I expected, but it's 318 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:28.240 kind of blown me away. It was. It was so awesome. 319 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:31.360 So I just love what you guys do. It's it's 320 00:16:31.399 --> 00:16:34.600 really cool. It's really unique. And we said on the 321 00:16:34.639 --> 00:16:39.720 episode with what was his name, Yeah, Archie, such a 322 00:16:39.919 --> 00:16:42.840 such an awesome guy. That was that was a great episode. 323 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:45.720 And we said it on the episode with him, it's like, 324 00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:51.000 this is the only thing of its kind, really, you know, 325 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:54.759 the only thing there is like this, and I love that. 326 00:16:54.799 --> 00:16:57.799 It's it's like backed by data, and it's also kind 327 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:01.840 of data oriented. But it's not all about the data, right, 328 00:17:01.919 --> 00:17:05.200 It's more it's it's the experience that is the number one. 329 00:17:05.240 --> 00:17:08.319 And it's also small and intimate. You know, we our 330 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:10.720 venues keep us locked in to certain numbers, and so 331 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:14.319 one venue is twenty four or can go up to 332 00:17:14.359 --> 00:17:18.920 twenty six participants, and the other is twenty So if 333 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:20.759 you're not going to go to a program and be 334 00:17:20.839 --> 00:17:22.640 with you know, five hundred people. 335 00:17:22.519 --> 00:17:24.839 Right, I never really thought about it like that. Yeah, 336 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:25.720 that is a very good point. 337 00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:28.000 The trainers are there with you, you know, all the time, 338 00:17:28.119 --> 00:17:29.759 or most of that when they're sleeping. 339 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:31.359 Yeah, that's true. 340 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:34.359 Do they always do the experience with the class too? 341 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:38.720 No, someone has to be running the control room, yes, true. Okay, 342 00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:41.839 but but what we'll do is we'll swap off and 343 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:42.559 you know, so. 344 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:49.000 I mean that's exactly what I would do, you know, 345 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:51.079 take shifts. That's amazing. 346 00:17:51.160 --> 00:17:52.559 Yeah, man, But. 347 00:17:52.559 --> 00:17:54.279 A lot of times we're in the control room together, 348 00:17:54.359 --> 00:17:56.319 but you know, well we'll say, hey, I really want 349 00:17:56.319 --> 00:17:57.640 to do this one and yep. 350 00:17:58.200 --> 00:18:00.200 Sometimes I noticed like it would be one voice going 351 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:02.839 under and then it would be another voice right coming 352 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:03.599 out right. 353 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:06.720 Like going into the exercises and coming out of the exercises. 354 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:08.759 Yeah, because it's not like when we did virtual when 355 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:11.839 when you're there residential, there's another built at least at 356 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:13.640 the top of the mountain. I haven't experienced the bottom 357 00:18:13.640 --> 00:18:17.319 of the mountain. There's another building where they speak into 358 00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:21.440 a microphone making sure everybody's ready to go into the meditation. 359 00:18:21.759 --> 00:18:25.599 And it's like all these check units are linked and 360 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:28.400 there's a switch that you flip and once all the 361 00:18:28.440 --> 00:18:30.599 lights are green, then red red. 362 00:18:30.799 --> 00:18:36.480 Right, Yeah, but we call it, well, it's not they're blue. 363 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:37.480 We call it ready lights. 364 00:18:38.680 --> 00:18:40.279 Yeah. I did go in that room one time. I 365 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:44.599 got to see the amazing set up there and it's awesome. 366 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:47.240 But anyway, so it's like they're talking to you live 367 00:18:47.480 --> 00:18:52.839 from another location. Simultaneously, everybody's hearing the trainer's voice like, okay, 368 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:55.839 this is you know the parameters of this exercise, you 369 00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:57.240 know the purpose? Yeah. 370 00:18:57.279 --> 00:18:59.960 Yeah, and the other location we're all of the same building. 371 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:02.440 Okay, yeah, cool, yeah. 372 00:19:02.359 --> 00:19:05.359 Other location it's not in Virginia, there's no. 373 00:19:05.039 --> 00:19:09.079 Well it is we have two campuses or two venues 374 00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:11.160 in the a mile apart. 375 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:13.920 Oh, that's what you're talking about top of the mountain 376 00:19:13.960 --> 00:19:14.759 and bottom of the mountain. 377 00:19:14.839 --> 00:19:18.799 Yes, okay, there's two like buildings like gotcha, you know, facilities, 378 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:21.000 but it's all in the same area. 379 00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:26.640 But I wonder what the you know, a place so 380 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:29.079 special like this that is truly one of a kind. 381 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:33.759 I wonder what, like the the prolific, like the number 382 00:19:33.759 --> 00:19:36.799 of people that come is it? Has it grown exponentially? 383 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:40.720 It seems like the past couple of years, I've heard 384 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:43.759 more people talking about Monroe than ever. 385 00:19:43.720 --> 00:19:44.720 And that's by design. 386 00:19:44.880 --> 00:19:48.079 Okay. I had wondered, like, is it just because we 387 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:50.519 are starting to talk about it more here? 388 00:19:50.880 --> 00:19:54.599 No, since I started in the position i'm in now, 389 00:19:55.039 --> 00:20:00.480 we have been initiating a high growth strategy and so 390 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:03.079 we've been doing a lot of different things in it, 391 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:05.359 and now it's we're seeing the result. 392 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:08.039 So this is a great segue into the next thing. 393 00:20:08.039 --> 00:20:12.000 I wanted to talk about. Your mission. Yeah, let's let's 394 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:15.559 talk about that. The thing that I took away from 395 00:20:15.640 --> 00:20:20.680 Monroe that had me so motivated to continue on my 396 00:20:20.839 --> 00:20:23.799 journey trying to you know, be a part of Monroe 397 00:20:24.039 --> 00:20:26.480 was when I spoke to you and of course from 398 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:30.119 the trainers, and I heard your mission, So let's talk 399 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:30.480 about that. 400 00:20:31.039 --> 00:20:35.319 So this happened before I got there. They created the 401 00:20:35.359 --> 00:20:38.599