Speaker 1: Stuck at home, bored and alone. You'd think I could
Speaker 1: have some.
Speaker 2: Fun on my own, but not bold.
Speaker 1: If with Cecily and Stephen.
Speaker 2: Hello everybody, and welcome to bored a f you know
Speaker 2: what it is like back to basics, because we really are.
Speaker 1: I think I'm kind of bored. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't do well without like my routine. When my
Speaker 2: routine's off, do.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah? Well I don't. I yeah.
Speaker 3: I need your vacation. I need a steak k I
Speaker 3: need a staycation. I need to get the flood out
Speaker 3: a app Well.
Speaker 2: I'm having a vacation because I haven't had to record
Speaker 2: too much because uh I pre recorded for for Crying
Speaker 2: out Loud, and I'm realizing, like I like recording, like
Speaker 2: I like feeling needed. I need people to need content
Speaker 2: for me. I need to be doing something. Do you
Speaker 2: understand that.
Speaker 1: We're different like that. I do understand.
Speaker 3: I would like to go unplug somewhere and I don't
Speaker 3: know where.
Speaker 1: That's the thing.
Speaker 3: I you know, when you picture in your mind like
Speaker 3: this is ooh, I see myself with a Pina colada
Speaker 3: on a beach, and I don't see that. What I
Speaker 3: see is like wearing a coat near a volcano in Iceland. Really,
Speaker 3: that is what keeps it. It's calling me. Iceland's been
Speaker 3: calling me for years. It's definitely on my bucket list,
Speaker 3: and that is like a plan. But I also don't
Speaker 3: have a lot of money, so that's a problem when
Speaker 3: it comes to plants, because then when you do save
Speaker 3: a little money, you don't want to spend it all
Speaker 3: on Iceland, right, you know what I'm saying. Yes, that's
Speaker 3: the thing where you're like, well that is the that's
Speaker 3: the catch. But even like this holiday season, I mean
Speaker 3: I didn't really have any time off, like from my
Speaker 3: other job. I think we had like two days off,
Speaker 3: but you know, you could still send stuff in if
Speaker 3: you wanted. So if that's on the table, like I'm like, huh,
Speaker 3: so I don't know, I haven't had like a what
Speaker 3: do you mean by if you want to Like, if
Speaker 3: you have articles and stuff that you've written and you
Speaker 3: want to send them in, you know you're not like
Speaker 3: they can't block you from doing that. So I always
Speaker 3: I never really feel like I can't. I always feel
Speaker 3: like I have to be working with my radio jobs,
Speaker 3: like they're all off, they're like one of them was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we're taking two weeks off, but if you want to
Speaker 3: send reports in we have someone filling in. And I
Speaker 3: want to be like, I don't want to send if
Speaker 3: you're taking off, right, why do I?
Speaker 1: But they don't say it like that, They're not.
Speaker 3: Like mad if I do, I feel it on myself,
Speaker 3: like I'll send reports and I don't want to do
Speaker 3: shit for like one week, you know, right, the only
Speaker 3: thing I wanted I'll do with you. That's the best.
Speaker 3: That's the best thing. Like that is just us chit chatting.
Speaker 3: So that doesn't feel like work.
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like work. Yeah, that's your point, But
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like that.
Speaker 2: I guess I feel like that with several of my
Speaker 2: jobs because you know, like I also miss like Lynett
Speaker 2: and I are not We're taking two weeks off, and
Speaker 2: then I miss my job, like I miss Like I'm like,
Speaker 2: but I have things to say, and like why am
Speaker 2: I not working?
Speaker 1: Just write them down? You write them down? Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I do. I write them so hard.
Speaker 2: I just like, I just I just write them longhand
Speaker 2: like I just scribble really and.
Speaker 3: Then crumple them up and throw them away. That's the
Speaker 3: best way to joke. Someone told me that once. They're like,
Speaker 3: when you're writing jokes, write them on an old, nasty,
Speaker 3: crusty receipt and then just throw away the receipt because
Speaker 3: you're never going to find it again.
Speaker 2: Like, well, yeah, because you're yeah, that's the that's the
Speaker 2: worst I would Okay, if I was still being a
Speaker 2: stand up comedian right now, it would go so badly because,
Speaker 2: first of all, if I'm honest with myself, I was
Speaker 2: never good at remembering jokes, even when I had a
Speaker 2: decent memory, like that was my thing, that was like
Speaker 2: my try. I was always scared if I had to
Speaker 2: do especially like a TV thing. I was always like,
Speaker 2: how am I going to remember the joke? Like what
Speaker 2: if I forget while I'm on stage? Oh my, I
Speaker 2: would be so happy if when I did gigs where
Speaker 2: there was a where they offered teleprompter, which did happen.
Speaker 2: There were a lot of gigs where if you did TV,
Speaker 2: a lot of times they would give you a teleprompter.
Speaker 3: God, I would feel like I'd be so lost and
Speaker 3: wouldn't be able to read that.
Speaker 2: Oh I was pretty good at teleprompter, But if you
Speaker 2: didn't have teleprompter, then I always felt scared like that
Speaker 2: I might forget and then it would always be so embarrassing, like, Okay,
Speaker 2: what if I'm like I forget and then I'm on stage,
Speaker 2: like I'm in front of the camera and I don't
Speaker 2: remember my joke. That's just going to be so humiliating.
Speaker 2: So I was I was always worried about a lot
Speaker 2: of things going on at the same time, and it
Speaker 2: was never really that fun for me.
Speaker 1: But now I just think if I.
Speaker 2: Ever had to do it now, it would be a
Speaker 2: hundred times like then, I for sure would forget.
Speaker 3: Stuff right, and then everything's forever. It's not just going
Speaker 3: to show up on TV one time. It's going to
Speaker 3: be on every TikTok. It's like if you fuck up,
Speaker 3: especially you're like, h everything sucks. Can I say, can
Speaker 3: I give you an unpop opinion? Yes, this is I've
Speaker 3: been thinking about this all week and I feel like
Speaker 3: this is going to get as canceled. Oh, and I've
Speaker 3: really thought about it a lot. But I was like
Speaker 3: scrolling insta and this instareel came up with get ready
Speaker 3: for to be mad? Okay, But Conan O'Brien was telling
Speaker 3: a story on Colbert right, and I have something about
Speaker 3: how Letterman gave him a gift once he gave him
Speaker 3: a course, and I was so annoyed with Conan, like,
Speaker 3: I don't think I like Conan O'Brien. I'm sure he's
Speaker 3: a nice person, but I think he's a terrible interviewer.
Speaker 1: Doesn't let anyone talk. He yells, He screams every story
Speaker 1: so loud. You agree, I.
Speaker 2: Agree, I agree, I think overhyped. Not as genius as
Speaker 2: he thinks he is.
Speaker 1: He's had very good writers over the years. Yes, I'm
Speaker 1: sure he's a nice person. He's just so loud in
Speaker 1: the story.
Speaker 3: And you could tell the Colbert and I know, perhaps
Speaker 3: I'm projecting, because I felt that way, and I felt like,
Speaker 3: you know, you're like, I know he sees it, but
Speaker 3: you could see he looked exhausted. The bear looked exhausted
Speaker 3: in the conversation. That would be like okay, yeah, But
Speaker 3: then then what he was trying to lower the volume.
Speaker 1: By himself lowering the volume. I could tell I've.
Speaker 3: Been there, Oh, I just screaming. Just I almost want
Speaker 3: to play it for you, let me see if I
Speaker 3: can get it up. But like, I mean, I don't
Speaker 3: know if that's going to be something you want?
Speaker 1: Is there like a desperation do you think to.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean by a desperation, Like
Speaker 2: is there like, Oh, I haven't had a show in
Speaker 2: a while, so now I have to really yell my jokes.
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I think he's always I've always always annoyed me, even
Speaker 3: as like like when he was on and everybody was
Speaker 3: like Team Coco, like calm down. Everybody just calmed down, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm glad he got a show, but he was so
Speaker 3: victimized by like by the tonight show a little thing. Yeah, like, yes, okay,
Speaker 3: I I prefer Conan to Leno if I'm looking at
Speaker 3: like a joke writing situation or rich one has a
Speaker 3: little more edge. Yeah, okay, I was on Team Coco.
Speaker 3: I guess I don't know why everyone in LA had
Speaker 3: to get T shirts made, get your own life in order.
Speaker 3: Don't worry that much about Conan. Like he's fine either way,
Speaker 3: He's totally fine. Oh my god, that is so true,
Speaker 3: Like it got out of hand, yes, Like what a
Speaker 3: pr team is that? With his face and then team
Speaker 3: and the people that you note writers that haven't worked
Speaker 3: never worked ever, like people that you knew on blind
Speaker 3: date that had one job and never worked again are
Speaker 3: wearing Team Coco shirts.
Speaker 1: Like what has he done for you?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Good question.
Speaker 2: I thought this was going to be an unpopular opinion
Speaker 2: and then lo and behold not an unpopular opinion. It's
Speaker 2: just sometimes we just have to be brave enough to
Speaker 2: say it, to say the thing.
Speaker 3: I bet a lot of people disagree, because I've had
Speaker 3: people say to me that they don't care for Letterman
Speaker 3: and I love Letterman, and that hurts. It hurts my
Speaker 3: soul to hear someone say that. But I guess it's
Speaker 3: really doesn't matter. At the end of the day, it
Speaker 3: really doesn't matter. Here, I have a clip, say if
Speaker 3: I can play you this clip from YouTube pulled on
Speaker 3: there's going to be an ad first, and the ad
Speaker 3: is AI. If you're wondering it is an AI monkey.
Speaker 3: Oh that's where we are. Okay, So here's Colbert is
Speaker 3: just talking for I'm going to talk you into it first,
Speaker 3: because we don't need Colbert like just sitting here. Let
Speaker 3: me let me okay, you're going to be mid story.
Speaker 3: Here's I've got applause breaks.
Speaker 2: Jobs.
Speaker 1: Guys don't agree, right, hold on, let me get ahead.
Speaker 1: He's telling the story because you're a fellow host. Sure
Speaker 1: before an hour before the show, you're concentrating, you're getting ready, Yeah,
Speaker 1: pressure cooker. Yeah, body's being waxed oiled and hold on,
Speaker 1: let me just go ahead and starts floaded two cowboys.
Speaker 2: An answer, he's searched all of the world for a
Speaker 2: horse named.
Speaker 1: Dave, and so loud. Yeah. So it just goes on
Speaker 1: and as a headache. He looks tired.
Speaker 3: He has literally his head in his hand sometimes huh,
Speaker 3: and he's trying to fall.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a it's an interesting.
Speaker 3: Story about how Dave was rewarding him and sent him
Speaker 3: a horse, had it like delivered to the lot. Kind
Speaker 3: of a funny story, but you don't have to yell it.
Speaker 3: And look, let me be clear, I think his writing
Speaker 3: on The Simpsons is brilliant. Maybe I just prefer him
Speaker 3: as a writer. Maybe I just prefer him as like
Speaker 3: a writer, like he definitely elevated the Simpsons, like his
Speaker 3: years on the show. But I just anyway, what's another
Speaker 3: unpopular opinion? That's so lonely to have unpopular opinions? And
Speaker 3: you know, I feel this way a lot when we're
Speaker 3: watching Real housewives, Like I will dislike housewives that people
Speaker 3: just love and go crazy for, and then it can
Speaker 3: make you feel lonely. Yes, like I feel like I
Speaker 3: love the Counting Crows and everyone's like I always thought
Speaker 3: that was Hoodie or the Blowfish.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, that's a different band, not the same band.
Speaker 2: Right right, Well that probably makes you feel like misunderstood.
Speaker 3: Yes, well it makes me feel misunderstood because I pride
Speaker 3: myself on being such a music person, not almost not snaw,
Speaker 3: but I like, you know, different, and so I'm you know,
Speaker 3: but I'm not going to get into all that again.
Speaker 1: Adam. That's another that's another exact version.
Speaker 3: Like I worried so much for so many years about
Speaker 3: Adam Derwitz and his depression, and like he's fine, he's
Speaker 3: dating like a twenty five year old or whatever. He's fine.
Speaker 3: I don't need to worry about him. No, he seemed
Speaker 3: to have a pretty good life going, so I can
Speaker 3: just enjoy the music and not worry about his dissociative disorder.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's about like being a sensitive person, an EmPATH,
Speaker 3: you'd say, yeah, an EmPATH, you just feel things more
Speaker 3: deeply than other people. You know, joke about lot of
Speaker 3: people We're saying this because I had a friend who
Speaker 3: would constantly call himself an mpath and I was like, no,
Speaker 3: you're just a fucking narcissist. You literally make every single
Speaker 3: thing about you.
Speaker 1: Now, is there?
Speaker 2: I feel like there is a fine line between like
Speaker 2: a sensitive person and a narcissist.
Speaker 1: I agree with that.
Speaker 3: I agree with that. I think I don't know what
Speaker 3: I think anymore.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think I think we're all narcissist to some degree,
Speaker 3: some more than others.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 3: I know that I have a hard time. I mean, like,
Speaker 3: what is we have to redefine narcissists? Because are we all?
Speaker 3: Like I always think of it like this, we're the
Speaker 3: star of our own movie, you know. So it's a
Speaker 3: matter of like I think one of the great things
Speaker 3: about like the program that you're in.
Speaker 1: WOWS. I was going to be the anonymous part.
Speaker 3: But although what I like, I'm just now breaking the
Speaker 3: news Stephanie is sober. I do want to say that here,
Speaker 3: we do want to talk about we do want to
Speaker 3: address that today. But one of the things is the
Speaker 3: acts of service. And so when I think you think
Speaker 3: in terms of acts of service, that is a really
Speaker 3: good way of reframing like how because I get myself
Speaker 3: all jumbled up all the time, and then that is
Speaker 3: self centered that it is like there's no other way
Speaker 3: to and the only really way to snap out of
Speaker 3: that kind of anxiety, which is in and of itself
Speaker 3: self involved, I guess, is to you know, do something
Speaker 3: for someone else, or even if it's on a smaller level,
Speaker 3: hold the door, buy someone a cup of coffee, whatever,
Speaker 3: it is, like something the only way out.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, So thank you for your service.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to say though, what something that's a
Speaker 2: little bit funny is that a lot of people in
Speaker 2: this program that I'm in, part of the thing that
Speaker 2: they tell you to do is like when you're you know,
Speaker 2: paying it forward, helping the next person. You know, it's
Speaker 2: always the bottom of that is like because it helps me,
Speaker 2: you know, Like yeah, yeah, actually that altruistic.
Speaker 3: At least it's something at least I think the action
Speaker 3: is more important than the intention.
Speaker 1: That's that's a Jewish thing. Did you know that? In
Speaker 1: judiosm it's all about the action.
Speaker 3: That's why there's no such thing of like at the
Speaker 3: end of your life, did Jesus save your soul? That
Speaker 3: we don't have that because it's like, no, you have you.
Speaker 3: It's all about being a good person. It doesn't matter
Speaker 3: what you're thinking inside. So if you do it for
Speaker 3: the wrong reasons, it doesn't matter. The action is positive.
Speaker 3: There's no Lord like digging into our thoughts. You know
Speaker 3: that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I really like that. I do too.
Speaker 3: That's why I like on Young Kipoor that the whole
Speaker 3: idea is that it's a day of atonement when you're
Speaker 3: really looking at yourself and what you've what you could
Speaker 3: have done better. It's not about talking to like god
Speaker 3: quot unquote. It's like you have to talk to the
Speaker 3: person that you feel you have some business with.
Speaker 1: I'm not business like.
Speaker 3: Trading silver right, not like not like the whole reason
Speaker 3: could no, but you know what I mean, Like you
Speaker 3: have some stuff with so you have to actually speak
Speaker 3: to them. It's not good enough to be like, sorry,
Speaker 3: Lord that I was a shit to this person. You
Speaker 3: like apologize to the person. So that's kind of cool.
Speaker 3: It's that's also twelve step. I mean that's also part
Speaker 3: of AA right, like you make amends. Yes, for sure,
Speaker 3: we've really solved a lot of Can I tell you
Speaker 3: one more thing serious, and then we'll move on to
Speaker 3: not we'll be joking again.
Speaker 1: This my cousin. You know I've met Claude. You know Claude.
Speaker 3: He's a writer, and he writes that he has a
Speaker 3: substack and he always has really profound things on his substack.
Speaker 3: And one thing I read recently was that he said
Speaker 3: he read this somewhere someone said this to him. Is
Speaker 3: like we're always like when we think about resentment, like
Speaker 3: oh god, one day karma will get them, or one
Speaker 3: day I'm going to get even. Right this person, he's like,
Speaker 3: reframe that as I'm going to get even in terms
Speaker 3: of kindness.
Speaker 1: And I thought that was the coolest thing.
Speaker 3: Like someone did really something very nice for you get
Speaker 3: even with them. That's who you get even with, Like
Speaker 3: the people that are good to you, be.
Speaker 1: As good to them as there it's not a cool
Speaker 1: way of like thinking.
Speaker 3: I never I mean obviously, but like never thought about
Speaker 3: it like that.
Speaker 1: That is really cool. I love that Yes, get yes,
Speaker 1: and I'll look at it.
Speaker 3: Find in the score, yeah, even the score by Like
Speaker 3: they did these wonderful things, so now you do.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be exactly the same.
Speaker 3: That would be weird, right, like forever, like, oh, you
Speaker 3: got me the sweater and you give him back the
Speaker 3: same sweater.
Speaker 1: Now you get the sweater. I'm that great.
Speaker 3: But yeah, we all get so tight up in our
Speaker 3: thoughts of like, can't wait for them to get theirs?
Speaker 3: Fuck those people. Don't even think about those people. We
Speaker 3: don't have time for that.
Speaker 1: No, we don't. I mean, I'm maybe time for it,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I know what you're saying. Oh I did too.
Speaker 3: But also the way he put it too is like, god,
Speaker 3: you know we're here for He goes, uh, oh, how
Speaker 3: did he put it? He's like, basically, the earth has
Speaker 3: every hundred years or so, it's all new people. Never
Speaker 3: thought about it like that either. He's like, so fuck
Speaker 3: all the people that don't, Matt, you know that? Are
Speaker 3: did you wrong?
Speaker 1: Whatever? Do the other thing? Focus on that?
Speaker 3: But isn't that a neat way to think about it?
Speaker 3: Every hundred years or so we have the earth has
Speaker 3: all new people.
Speaker 1: Oh that's so deep.
Speaker 2: It's really fucking deep. Yeah, that's the act. What other
Speaker 2: podcast are you going to get?
Speaker 1: You're not conan?
Speaker 2: So there is somebody at uh I went to my
Speaker 2: meeting this morning and somebody said this thing and I'm
Speaker 2: going to fuck it up and I don't have I
Speaker 2: I went to go text her to see if I
Speaker 2: could ask her the exact quote, and uh, I think
Speaker 2: I have a really old number for her.
Speaker 1: You gott. I literally turned around. I was like, that
Speaker 1: is so fucking smart. But it was okay. So it
Speaker 1: was something to the effect of like my childhood.
Speaker 2: We were talking about like childhood and like having a
Speaker 2: like not the greatest childhood.
Speaker 1: She goes, but it doesn't have to be.
Speaker 2: It might not have been the greatest childhood, but it
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be the longest childhood.
Speaker 1: Oh oh my god.
Speaker 2: What like at some point we can go, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: but it's done, like I'm not a child anymore, Like
Speaker 2: I don't live at home, like like let it let
Speaker 2: maybe I can let that go.
Speaker 1: Yes, isn't that a good one?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: And oh my god, that's so good. Yeah, And it
Speaker 1: doesn't have to define you.
Speaker 3: And also like god, I mean I would say, you know,
Speaker 3: people say, well that your parents did their best at all? No, no, no,
Speaker 3: that you're I don't think your mom did. I don't
Speaker 3: think our moms necessarily did.
Speaker 1: I don't think she did her best. No, I don't think.
Speaker 1: But like she did what she was capable of doing.
Speaker 3: I guess, yes, maybe that is the best that they
Speaker 3: can do, that's their capability.
Speaker 1: But she didn't try. She didn't ever go like, you
Speaker 1: know what, maybe I can do better.
Speaker 2: And the proof is in the fact that, like, and
Speaker 2: this is something we were kind of talking about at
Speaker 2: this meeting, was like that she didn't want and I
Speaker 2: was trying to like make things better and go like,
Speaker 2: I would really like to look all of some of
Speaker 2: this stuff. And I tried to get her to go
Speaker 2: to therapy with me, yes, and she was not interested,
Speaker 2: not interested.
Speaker 3: No, thank you as a therapist, right, I mean that's
Speaker 3: the most mind boggling thing.
Speaker 2: Right, But it's like, okay, I mean you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, at a certain point you have to go, well,
Speaker 2: she didn't want to do that, so like I can
Speaker 2: either just continue being mad about it or.
Speaker 1: Like move the FuG on, which I did.
Speaker 3: But I love that and I think of that too,
Speaker 3: and then and then I do have something funny to
Speaker 3: talk about. But when I think about like mom stuff too,
Speaker 3: we were very different and it's like she didn't necessarily choose.
Speaker 3: She had a daughter that she really really loved, and
Speaker 3: we only really started fighting when I started getting a
Speaker 3: little weird, if I'm honest.
Speaker 1: So she didn't really.
Speaker 3: Know what to do with my sort of gothy tendencies
Speaker 3: because she was a very Dallas dancer, she was a ballerina,
Speaker 3: she was was a girly girl, you know, and I
Speaker 3: was like we're different, and so just in fond and
Speaker 3: so it's like I was mad for so.
Speaker 1: Long too, was like felt so unseen.
Speaker 3: Part of that is my own staff Like that really,
Speaker 3: I mean that helps with like forgiveness in a lot
Speaker 3: of ways because it's like, well, she didn't know what
Speaker 3: to do with she doesn't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: She doesn't care about poetry or whatever the bullshit that
Speaker 3: I was trying to write or whatever, you know, like it.
Speaker 1: Just wasn't her thing, right.
Speaker 3: But I guess you're a mom if you if if
Speaker 3: like if one of your kids is into something that
Speaker 3: you're not into, you're probably more interested in finding out
Speaker 3: about it, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, uh yeah, I don't think that's like a
Speaker 2: great excuse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like just went in her stuff.
Speaker 2: I just yeah, I mean, my daugh I'm not like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, my kids are like all pretty creative, Yes,
Speaker 2: but LB like, here's a good here's like a little
Speaker 2: classic example. ELB is really into EDM music and I am, okay,
Speaker 2: one hundred percent not right, Like I don't get it.
Speaker 2: It is not my thing. It's not like even of
Speaker 2: interest to me. When she turns it on in the car,
Speaker 2: I have to make her turn it off like is that?
Speaker 2: Like yes, like that okay, yes, and like to me
Speaker 2: it's really bad. But hey, I am super supportive of
Speaker 2: her idea of like, you know, try it being a DJ.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, all right, yeah, I know they could
Speaker 2: help you, Like hell, yeah, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be like no, that's stupid and
Speaker 2: like what a waste of time, right, something that I
Speaker 2: don't understand. I'm going to try to support that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you don't filter them. I mean my mom,
Speaker 3: luckily was into theater and stuff, so that was always
Speaker 3: a go I was pushed like in that way and
Speaker 3: I liked it.
Speaker 1: So that would that that all gelled up.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's the other thing in forgiveness too, is like,
Speaker 3: well a lot of people didn't have that parents that
Speaker 3: were like, yeah, go to the arts performing arts school.
Speaker 1: We love it.
Speaker 3: Let's do it and like drove me down to you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know I took the best.
Speaker 1: Well, then maybe you owe your mom in apology. I
Speaker 1: have tried. I have.
Speaker 3: I mean, we get along, like we don't like we're
Speaker 3: not super close, but we don't have an issue now.
Speaker 3: But I have tried to have those deep conversations like God,
Speaker 3: I was a pain, wasn't I? And she's just not
Speaker 3: even listening to that part. She's not it's not she's
Speaker 3: not interested in that kind of thing, and that's okay.
Speaker 3: Some people don't want to look at stuff.
Speaker 1: And then you get really mad.
Speaker 2: You're like, I am trying to a fucking apologize to you, bitch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like, well, I like the word better. I
Speaker 3: like twat. She uses twad a lot. She calls her
Speaker 3: friends twat all the time. I'm like, mom, she does.
Speaker 1: Yes, she has this. I shouldn't say their names, but she'll.
Speaker 3: Go to the movies with friends, Like I'll just say
Speaker 3: one of the friends, let's say ones is Janice. I'm
Speaker 3: going to make up the name Janice, okay, and she's
Speaker 3: like Janice. Oh, and she'll say cunt too, like Janas
Speaker 3: was a cunt.
Speaker 1: Today.
Speaker 3: I'm like why was Janie a cunt? She's like, well,
Speaker 3: because we go to the movies and I say, if
Speaker 3: you want popcorn, get your own popcorn because I end
Speaker 3: up buying it, and you eat all of my popcorns.
Speaker 3: So that happened, and she like hit Janice from eating.
Speaker 3: She like hitting your name.
Speaker 2: Making her sound great, like I'm I'm not one hundred
Speaker 2: percent sure that you're the one that needs to be apologizing,
Speaker 2: but go on.
Speaker 3: I mean that's pretty much it. Yeah, I guess that's it.
Speaker 3: She just gets real bad things. Okay, I have another topic. Okay,
Speaker 3: unless you have. Do you have a topic you'd like
Speaker 3: to move us into. I have another one.
Speaker 1: I don't after Okakay, I had.
Speaker 3: This is old school board a f But today I
Speaker 3: had another little and this could be a me problem.
Speaker 3: But I went to a coffee shop. M hmm, get
Speaker 3: a coffee. Not at the one I've forgiven all the
Speaker 3: people at the old one, because they have new people
Speaker 3: now and they're the one where they didn't where you
Speaker 3: thought they could give me back your card.
Speaker 1: I thought that you give my credit card back.
Speaker 3: And what I had done is thought i'd stuck it
Speaker 3: in my pocket, but I put it in my butt, right,
Speaker 3: that's that one. And then they're like, we gave your
Speaker 3: card and then I found it in the bathroom when
Speaker 3: I took my go to tee, right, it was in
Speaker 3: my butt.
Speaker 1: And then you did go back to that place for
Speaker 1: a while, No, for a long time.
Speaker 3: And then when I did go back, they had new
Speaker 3: people working there and they were wonderful, right, so I
Speaker 3: really like for that one.
Speaker 1: Okay, so no, that place is fine, but they were
Speaker 1: closed today.
Speaker 3: So I went to the place next door, which is
Speaker 3: very cute but always very rude. The people that work
Speaker 3: there are just outrageous, like some of the worst like
Speaker 3: people I've ever dealt with at a coffee place.
Speaker 1: So today, I mean.
Speaker 3: Even worse than the ones, even though I was in
Speaker 3: the wrong about putting a credit card in my butt
Speaker 3: hm as posed to my pocket. So I go in
Speaker 3: today and the guy is having there's a long line,
Speaker 3: and the guy that works there's very young, I want
Speaker 3: to say, probably early twenties, and he's having a meltdown.
Speaker 1: He's having a bad day. So we're all like, don't
Speaker 1: worry about it, is cool, and he's like, sorry, I
Speaker 1: just shouldn't be working here by myself and it's just like,
Speaker 1: why does everyon want coffee today? He is out of
Speaker 1: he's out of control.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 1: And my mind is like, okay, look I've got I've
Speaker 1: got time on the side, called in sick. I.
Speaker 3: Well here's the we're all So everyone went out of
Speaker 3: their way to like raise him up, like he was
Speaker 3: fucking rudy, like he was fucking conan. Okay, like, let's
Speaker 3: take care of this guy's feelings to the end of time.
Speaker 3: And I can tell you he's a difficult He was
Speaker 3: very cute, like little mustache, lots of tats, some jewelry, you.
Speaker 1: Know, like you know, and he was not in a
Speaker 1: good mood. And I get it. And I wanted to
Speaker 1: be like a lot of us hate our jobs.
Speaker 3: And even when I was a kid, you know, twenty
Speaker 3: years old, like I didn't, but I worked in customer
Speaker 3: service a lot, and you can't. You can't treat the
Speaker 3: customers like this. But everybody was so cool, including myself.
Speaker 3: I get up, be going sorry, I'm just like ough.
Speaker 3: So I ordered my I go, don't worry, it's literally
Speaker 3: it's just coffee. We're all good, We're all happy to wait.
Speaker 3: I tipped him seventy percent I tipped.
Speaker 1: Him more than what I owed him.
Speaker 3: Okay, I basically it was like eight dollars and I
Speaker 3: gave him twenty bucks. And not that I'm miss money bags,
Speaker 3: but he's having a bad time, and I notice everyone's
Speaker 3: sort of doing that.
Speaker 1: Everyone's being so cool.
Speaker 3: But by the end of the thing, just to get
Speaker 3: my coffee, it took like, I want to say, half
Speaker 3: an hour.
Speaker 1: And it was also like, why are we coddling this kid?
Speaker 3: Maybe he just like I know he's having a bad day,
Speaker 3: but take it out on something.
Speaker 1: Don't take it on the customer.
Speaker 3: And I started getting really mad, thinking like, kid, you
Speaker 3: ask him for your tip. I well, I didn't ask him.
Speaker 3: I just when he looked away to back out of
Speaker 3: the jar, like I was just oh. And then okay,
Speaker 3: this is the best part. So this little this woman
Speaker 3: and I say little. If I notice that you're little,
Speaker 3: then you're shorter than me, then you're little five two,
Speaker 3: So she was like five et. She comes up and
Speaker 3: she's like, I I'm so sorry, I know that you're
Speaker 3: so frazzled today. And I'm over on the side waiting
Speaker 3: for my coffee, right, being cool, not pacing or anything.
Speaker 3: And she goes could I when you have a moment,
Speaker 3: get an earl gray, just a cup of tea, just
Speaker 3: like when you have his.
Speaker 1: Like, dude, you're paying him, you don't have to be this.
Speaker 1: This is crazy.
Speaker 3: And she's like okay, and he goes, okay, I'm just
Speaker 3: a little behind okay. And she's like, are you Okay's
Speaker 3: and he's like, yes, I'm fine, just being absurd. So
Speaker 3: she goes, okay, I'm going to go wait over here
Speaker 3: so I'm not hovering, and that pissed me off. I go, oh,
Speaker 3: so I'm hovering. There's literally nowhere else to say. I
Speaker 3: was so annoying. I go, oh, I'm hovering? Is that
Speaker 3: I'm hovering? Did you say that out loud? I said
Speaker 3: it out loud, yeah, to no one really. I think
Speaker 3: maybe the guy heard me, and I think he probably
Speaker 3: would like that's something he would probably say, uh huh,
Speaker 3: you're probably similar in that way. But I was like, okay, sorry,
Speaker 3: I hope I'm not hovering. After she said it, I
Speaker 3: go I'm just gonna there's no where to see. He goes, no, no, No,
Speaker 3: you're you're cool. Love struggling me love, And I was like, okay,
Speaker 3: we're cool if you want to call me love. I
Speaker 3: wasn't mad, and I stayed so calm as but I
Speaker 3: just felt like, at the end of the day, are
Speaker 3: what's going on here? We're all just having a shitty
Speaker 3: day too. Yeah, but and she works at a coffee place.
Speaker 3: It's not great.
Speaker 2: And he probably sounds like he was by himself on
Speaker 2: like a busy holiday day, and that's that's not fun.
Speaker 1: It's shitty. I get behind. I just know that from
Speaker 1: waiting tables. Oh my god, it was. But you wouldn't
Speaker 1: yell at a customer, which I mean, you wouldn't be
Speaker 1: like I can't get to you all.
Speaker 2: I probably have, if I'm being honest. I don't remember
Speaker 2: a specific time that I did it, but I would
Speaker 2: get very overwhelmed. And oh, managers at restaurants are always shitty.
Speaker 2: And I got in trouble for saying that. I guess
Speaker 2: on for crying out loud, and somebody was like, I'm
Speaker 2: a restaurant manager and that really makes me mad. But
Speaker 2: in general, in my day, you know, managers were off
Speaker 2: it and listen. And then I had to apologize to
Speaker 2: this woman, well not really apologize, because again someone listening listener,
Speaker 2: no a listener for for crying out loud. Got mad
Speaker 2: because Lynnette and I were talking about how most restaurant
Speaker 2: managers have like attitudes like some kind of like a
Speaker 2: being a complex where they think they're like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And then I had to I said, well, you know,
Speaker 2: Elbie works at a restaurant and she loves her manager.
Speaker 1: She's always like, oh my god, they're like the best. So,
Speaker 1: of course hashtag not all managers.
Speaker 2: But yes, a lot of taught restaurants that I worked
Speaker 2: at when I was younger had terrible managers that never
Speaker 2: really stuck up for you.
Speaker 1: So yes, there would sometimes be customers.
Speaker 2: That were like allowed to just be like abusive, and I, oh,
Speaker 2: I was a bit mouthy and did tend to like
Speaker 2: get mad and not tolerate bad treatment very well.
Speaker 3: I think that you shouldn't tolerate bad true. I mean
Speaker 3: I had a lot of jobs. I've had jobs since
Speaker 3: I was like fourteen. Was my first job, and they
Speaker 3: I worked, and I and I didn't like them. You know,
Speaker 3: I didn't like working at the Limited. I told you
Speaker 3: that only lasted three weeks. Yes, Then I got a
Speaker 3: job that I loved at the movie theater because I
Speaker 3: found sort of my nerds. It was like movie nerds
Speaker 3: and it was all guys and we were just such dorks.
Speaker 3: And I really liked that job. And then for some
Speaker 3: reason I worked at a yogurt shop and they would
Speaker 3: make me work by myself at night, which was not safe.
Speaker 3: By then, I was like seventeen, but it was not safe.
Speaker 3: This was like it would and so we'd have this
Speaker 3: huge rush after the movies let out next door. For
Speaker 3: some reason, they like I left there and it was
Speaker 3: more pay at the yogurt place. I don't know, was
Speaker 3: it a ty it was it was I think, swear
Speaker 3: to god, it was something like that. I was totally
Speaker 3: and but they would have me buy and they also
Speaker 3: made me make sandwiches and Keisha's and it was like
Speaker 3: dinners and I had to make them myself.
Speaker 1: Why Like they're like, oh, it's easy, you just do
Speaker 1: this and that and you add a little spigarnish here,
Speaker 1: and I'm like what and I barely, like I don't
Speaker 1: even know how to do anything now but a little bit.
Speaker 3: And it was gross. And then there was like somebody
Speaker 3: got robbed one time. It wasn't on my shift, but
Speaker 3: someone got held up, Like it is not a place
Speaker 3: for a seventeen year old to be closing at eleven pm.
Speaker 3: Absolutely not. But yeah, I would get flustered. But I
Speaker 3: think my I think it would come out on myself.
Speaker 3: I think i'd like go in the back room and cry.
Speaker 3: I don't think I would like yell at a customer.
Speaker 3: Not yell, but just be like I get to you
Speaker 3: what I get to you, like, calm down.
Speaker 2: But we're different in that way, different upbringing.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I had a This is literally what we were talking
Speaker 2: about this morning at my meeting. I had a stepfather
Speaker 2: who was like an asshole, and I.
Speaker 1: Got very sort of defensive, like.
Speaker 2: It's like I was more of a fighter, like if
Speaker 2: I feel, you know, I just I just I just
Speaker 2: didn't like that feeling of a customer thinking that they're
Speaker 2: better than me and they can like, you know, I
Speaker 2: would just get very upset about that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Now again, I've never been fired for like, I've never
Speaker 2: gotten into like a like. I've never yelled at a customer.
Speaker 2: I don't think I mean back at a manager. For sure,
Speaker 2: I've been like insubordinate. I yelled at a boss. I
Speaker 2: yelled at a Okay, I'll just tell you the boss.
Speaker 3: Who was a shit, right, Like when I worked at Dreyfus,
Speaker 3: Richard Dreyvis's company, it wasn't Richard.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine if I just yelled at Richard every day,
Speaker 1: fuck you, fuck jaws old man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he was there very often, but no, I
Speaker 3: didn't yell him. But his person below him, who helped
Speaker 3: him like write speeches and stuff and raise money for
Speaker 3: like political causes. That was my main boss. But then
Speaker 3: I also worked for Richard, so I worked for both teams.
Speaker 3: And she was really I still talk to her today actually,
Speaker 3: and I enjoy her, but she was really demanding and
Speaker 3: really demeaning. And I think one day I didn't really
Speaker 3: need the job, but they like begged me to come
Speaker 3: work that sum like a summer there was a lot
Speaker 3: going on politically, and they're like, you will take you
Speaker 3: to the DNC convention. That was the big bonus. And
Speaker 3: I was kind of into it. I was like those
Speaker 3: two thousands. I was like, Okay, I've got other jobs,
Speaker 3: but I'll do it for the summer. And and she
Speaker 3: was just yelling at me about something and I just
Speaker 3: yelled back, and it felt really I like went into
Speaker 3: her office and I was like, stop fucking talk to
Speaker 3: me like this, Oh, so I didn't give a shit.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's you know, whether you need it or not.
Speaker 3: Like if I won the lottery, like you'd probably always
Speaker 3: just be like, fuck, you can't talk to me like this. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean it wasn't like a friend that I want
Speaker 3: to have to work it out with.
Speaker 1: Somebody was like why you can't I mean she was.
Speaker 3: I mean she would come in while she'd be on
Speaker 3: the phone, and she'd sit on the phone with her
Speaker 3: feet up and like have me type out letters.
Speaker 1: It was I guess we had computers, but not really
Speaker 1: well did we. I guess we had. Yeah, I would like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would do a lot of typing in my days
Speaker 1: at jobs, so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had to like we had a computer, but
Speaker 3: it was just not quite the same, you know, whatever
Speaker 3: it was. And she would red circle things she wanted
Speaker 3: changed and like be like she do an intercom like
Speaker 3: come in, and then I'd have to go in while
Speaker 3: she was just laughing on the phone with red circle.
Speaker 3: It was just for no reason, Like it was no reason.
Speaker 3: It was just like, oh, you're just creating busy work.
Speaker 3: And then one time I got in trouble, I complained
Speaker 3: just somebody like one of the other assistants at Merrimax.
Speaker 1: I remember.
Speaker 3: So they're working for Weinstein directly and they had a
Speaker 3: lot of scripts come through. So I became friends with
Speaker 3: this person that worked at Weinstein at Merrimax, and I
Speaker 3: was like, our fucking bosses, right, and they're like, oh
Speaker 3: my god.
Speaker 1: The worst.
Speaker 3: So she told her direct boss she or he hadn't remember,
Speaker 3: told it wasn't Weinstein but somebody else. And it got
Speaker 3: back within like eight minutes to my boss like are
Speaker 3: you talking about me? Oh my god, look all of
Speaker 3: you people. No one should be trusted. Is the end
Speaker 3: of the main part of the story. You know.
Speaker 2: It's funny because I was literally telling Elbe this story
Speaker 2: that I have told on the podcast before, because we've
Speaker 2: told all these stories on the podcast, not.
Speaker 1: That thing I told the Red Circle story.
Speaker 2: That's no, no, no, you have it. But I mean
Speaker 2: I've told I've told this story. I can remember telling it.
Speaker 2: But remember the story where I had that job at
Speaker 2: the Three Stooges. Yes, and my boss was this woman
Speaker 2: named Kathleen French and her husband was this guy Bill
Speaker 2: Bill Fritz, Like it wasn't the same last name, but
Speaker 2: they were they were married, and he was the supervising producer.
Speaker 2: And it's so funny when I look back on it,
Speaker 2: how I thought, like, if you were a supervising producer
Speaker 2: of a show, was like.
Speaker 1: So cool that one step up. Oh yeah, not even
Speaker 1: like it wasn't even a good job back then, but.
Speaker 2: You know, and he worked for his wife like she
Speaker 2: was the executive producer and he was the supervised like
Speaker 2: I don't know, head writer or whatever. And remember that
Speaker 2: story where I hated that job so much. I hated
Speaker 2: the three Stooges. I had to fake that I liked
Speaker 2: it so that I could get the job because I
Speaker 2: was desperate.
Speaker 1: I was so brothers.
Speaker 2: It was the worst paying job I'd ever had, But
Speaker 2: I was like, I love the three stooges, hated them.
Speaker 2: Then every moment of that job was just like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, this is so fun fucking dumb I hate Okay,
Speaker 2: just to remind you, so nothing was computerized in those
Speaker 2: days except that there was no Google. There was no
Speaker 2: there were no search engines. But we could look at
Speaker 2: footage on a computer, so you would have to so
Speaker 2: you'd have to think of it. I mean, this story
Speaker 2: is kind of worth retelling. I don't try to think
Speaker 2: of a sketch. So I was making interstitials for three
Speaker 2: Stooges movies, so they wanted it to be like here
Speaker 2: would be an example, and I'm really good at getting
Speaker 2: jobs like this. I think I had to do a sample.
Speaker 2: But it was like, okay, exercise with Mo, and then
Speaker 2: you'd be like here and it would you'd have to
Speaker 2: write something that was basically like a minute and a
Speaker 2: half long, but it was had to be like a
Speaker 2: funny concept that you had to take footage from three
Speaker 2: Stooges movies and make it into something different. Right, So
Speaker 2: you'd be like exercise with Mo, and then you'd see
Speaker 2: a picture of like MO jumping somewhere or Mo like
Speaker 2: doing a jumping jack or Mow falling or something, and
Speaker 2: then you'd have to take all this footage, put it
Speaker 2: together and make it funny and do a little like
Speaker 2: voiceover over it.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Okay, Well, imagine nothing's categorized, nothing's cataloged,
Speaker 2: like you're just having to come up with a concept
Speaker 2: and then watch movies over and over and try to
Speaker 2: and take timecode and go okay, I could use this,
Speaker 2: I could use this four seconds, and then I'd have
Speaker 2: to put it right and you'd be using different movies. Okay,
Speaker 2: so imagine the torture and also trying to think of
Speaker 2: an interstitial and we had nothing to look at. So
Speaker 2: I remember saying, can we have magazines? Remember this, I
Speaker 2: was like, we need magazines and we need snacks. And
Speaker 2: they were like, well, first of all, just bring food
Speaker 2: in if you need snack, we have a refrigerator. Like
Speaker 2: they didn't get the concept of like writers needing like
Speaker 2: red vines.
Speaker 1: Go munch on.
Speaker 2: And then they were like, why do you need magazines.
Speaker 2: You're not here to read magazines. You're here to like
Speaker 2: write interstitials. And I was like, yeah, but I have nothing.
Speaker 2: I don't just get ideas like yeah in my head
Speaker 2: they're like look at something. And they're like, well, you
Speaker 2: can't take I mean they are the guy argued with me.
Speaker 2: So at this point I was mad and I didn't
Speaker 2: want this job anymore, but I knew I couldn't quit
Speaker 2: until I got.
Speaker 1: A new job.
Speaker 2: But I would complain about it all the time, and
Speaker 2: I believe that I was on the phone with Bonnie
Speaker 2: and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, God, this job is so horrible.
Speaker 2: And I turn around and the head writer guy who's
Speaker 2: married to the executive producer, is sitting at the desk
Speaker 2: right behind me, and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, do you hear you?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: But I didn't.
Speaker 2: It wasn't one hundred percent sure, but I mean like
Speaker 2: I hung up the phone and turned around to get up,
Speaker 2: and he was sitting there, and I was like, oh, hey,
Speaker 2: So then this was this was on a Friday, and
Speaker 2: I kept waiting for something. If anything was going to happen,
Speaker 2: it was going to happen that day, and nothing happened.
Speaker 2: So I leave and it's we're all good. Then I
Speaker 2: come in on Monday that nothing's different. Lunchtime, he says,
Speaker 2: we want to have a meeting with you. Across the street.
Speaker 2: There was a like another office building that belonged to
Speaker 2: the show across the street.
Speaker 1: I want to have a.
Speaker 2: Meeting for you in the head in the meeting with
Speaker 2: you in the big meeting room across the way. I
Speaker 2: was like, okay about it was like in Glendale somewhere.
Speaker 2: It was also far to fucking drive to. Yeah, So
Speaker 2: I go across the street to the meeting at lunchtime.
Speaker 2: You remember the story, and it's no, everybody's sitting there.
Speaker 2: It's the it's Kathleen French, the boss, their baby, their dog,
Speaker 2: hr there's a lawyer, they're all all the people are there.
Speaker 2: There's like ten people sitting in this meeting, and they're
Speaker 2: right away. They're just like, so, we're going to have
Speaker 2: to let you go.
Speaker 1: And I was like what.
Speaker 2: I immediately start crying, like all so shocking, but also I
Speaker 2: shouldn't have been shocked. But then I was shocked because
Speaker 2: I thought nothing was going to happen, right, And then
Speaker 2: I was like, well, why you know, and they're like, well,
Speaker 2: you're poisoning the well. They said that, yes, and then
Speaker 2: I've had a joke about poisoning the well for years
Speaker 2: since then because I.
Speaker 1: Was like, I mean, there was nothing for me to say.
Speaker 1: I was literally saying that I hate this job. It sucks.
Speaker 1: It's so boring. I can't stand it. You know.
Speaker 2: Two days before, there wasn't a lot of arguing I
Speaker 2: could do better to get fired because there's unemployment. Yes,
Speaker 2: telling you think that was kind of perfect, you calmly.
Speaker 2: They didn't want a problem.
Speaker 3: They got legal involved, they made sure everything was on
Speaker 3: the up and up, and then okay, here's your pat
Speaker 3: you'd be cool.
Speaker 1: I will be cool. And employments. I said I could
Speaker 1: finish out the week.
Speaker 2: I said, I can finish like what I'm working on,
Speaker 2: because you know these things would take a while.
Speaker 1: You can do one in a day.
Speaker 2: So I was right, whatever I was working on, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm in the middle of one, and they're like, she goes, no,
Speaker 2: you need to leave now. We've already boxed up your stuff.
Speaker 2: So because I was going to go say goodbye to people,
Speaker 2: They're like, no, we took the rest of the writing
Speaker 2: stuff is out to lunch. So that Jesus, that's dramatic.
Speaker 2: It was so dramatic.
Speaker 3: That was me when I left my radio job. I left.
Speaker 3: I quit. I didn't, which is in retrospect so stupid.
Speaker 3: I was so unhappy. It was so unhappy. But like, oh,
Speaker 3: how hard to be on a radio show and get
Speaker 3: like that much money in your twenties, Like what a dick.
Speaker 3: I mean it was a tough physician. But you know
Speaker 3: I wouldn't quit now it's just say that. But yeah,
Speaker 3: but when we had our like a final big thing
Speaker 3: at Disneyland that we had to go do a remote
Speaker 3: and they were like, it was my last I knew
Speaker 3: it was my last day, and I wasn't allowed to
Speaker 3: say goodbye to the audience. I wasn't allowed to my
Speaker 3: other I wasn't allowed to tell my co hosts until
Speaker 3: we were done, until we were off air.
Speaker 1: One of them, Peter had already left.
Speaker 3: He just he would finish like a show and he'd
Speaker 3: just throw his headphones off and walk off. Does not
Speaker 3: say goodbye to anybody. He just like he told him yeah,
Speaker 3: and he'd walk me. At the end of every shift.
Speaker 3: He would just throw that pretty bad yeah yeah sort of,
Speaker 3: and I remember like, well, I was gonna tell him goodbye.
Speaker 3: I really liked him at the time. It wasn't sort
Speaker 3: of until retrospect that I realized he was poisoning the
Speaker 3: well more than I was.
Speaker 1: But I didn't.
Speaker 3: And then Buzz was there and I was like, well,
Speaker 3: I just want to say I really liked working with
Speaker 3: you and I'm leaving, and he was like, oh no,
Speaker 3: and then we just they never we never addressed the audience.
Speaker 3: Like that's how they do it in radio. You don't
Speaker 3: get to say goodbye. It's a really weird thing. I
Speaker 3: don't unless you've been there for like twenty years and
Speaker 3: you're lead like the show is ending. You know, in
Speaker 3: some cases you do sometimes you do, and it like
Speaker 3: a very But I don't know if they didn't think
Speaker 3: I was going to say something thing.
Speaker 1: I don't know what they thought i'd say, because I'd
Speaker 1: never you were going to have like a network moment
Speaker 1: yet exactly, but I had never had before. There was
Speaker 1: no reason to think that.
Speaker 3: But I think as it was inching towards the end,
Speaker 3: I think, I, you know, I was pretty bitter.
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I was.
Speaker 3: I was definitely not a great match, you know, And
Speaker 3: so I think, but that is very common in radio,
Speaker 3: Like you don't really get a chance to takeodbye because
Speaker 3: people are always going to be mad. So they're always
Speaker 3: like whoever. The person who replaced me was so much
Speaker 3: better for the job than me, who was a blonde woman.
Speaker 3: I don't remember her name. She's still in radio, but
Speaker 3: she was better for country.
Speaker 1: She was like a mom and she was like Orange
Speaker 1: County and she lack country and she's blonde, Like that's
Speaker 1: the person for the country radio show. Uh, you know.
Speaker 3: And but at first everyone hate they're like, where's Cecily?
Speaker 3: People like, but they canceled my email, so this is
Speaker 3: before I would have had an eat, like they couldn't
Speaker 3: find there was a Facebook, so I said, nobody can
Speaker 3: email you because I was no longer on that email.
Speaker 1: I really liked my boss.
Speaker 3: I do want to say that, like I loved him,
Speaker 3: Like we did that together because I wanted to leave,
Speaker 3: and he was like, I probably think it's for the best,
Speaker 3: you know, And we worked out away from me to
Speaker 3: get my contract paid out because they knew they knew
Speaker 3: I was going to probably be a little bit of trouble,
Speaker 3: you know. I was like, when you first got the job. No,
Speaker 3: not when I first got the job, but when I
Speaker 3: was leaving the job. My agent did most of the work.
Speaker 1: You know. It was all just lawyers and agents.
Speaker 3: But like I you know, I was so fucking unhappy,
Speaker 3: and I had good reason.
Speaker 1: So I think they were like, all right, well let's
Speaker 1: make this a win win. Two wants to go. We
Speaker 1: don't really want to.
Speaker 3: Hear we wish her. Well, here's the rest of your money,
Speaker 3: by bye. And you don't you know, I didn't have
Speaker 3: a what do you call it a non disclosure though
Speaker 3: I had a non compete though couldn't work in radio,
Speaker 3: oh really two years?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I could do other things.
Speaker 3: Yeah like that, I mean they make it really hard
Speaker 3: on the on the people. I don't know why that's
Speaker 3: on the town, on the very creative, beautiful, gorgeous, sensitive,
Speaker 3: empathic talent, Like what are we supposed to do while
Speaker 3: they count their millions?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it. That is kind of crazy.
Speaker 2: I mean some of these jobs too, are just like
Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard because yeah, you say you wouldn't
Speaker 2: quit now. But on the other hand, when you're not
Speaker 2: happy and you have to get up at five four
Speaker 2: in the morning or in the morning and no life,
Speaker 2: and you think you have something else ahead of you,
Speaker 2: like a career, I sort of did for a while,
Speaker 2: for a long while I had. I worked hard, but like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean the station didn't last.
Speaker 1: You worked hard, but the devil worked harder.
Speaker 3: Double worked, real damn hard. Like, so, I want to
Speaker 3: tell you one more from the thing before we go.
Speaker 3: We're kind of out of time now and I don't
Speaker 3: want to make this longer than.
Speaker 1: It used to be.
Speaker 3: But oh, should we say what we're going to talk
Speaker 3: about on? Oh, no, we're going to We don't know
Speaker 3: what our patrens one is. Yeah, if you're not on
Speaker 3: board a f patron, get on up in it like
Speaker 3: a new Year, do something nice.
Speaker 1: For us for the new year, like.
Speaker 3: Of ser remember the thing, how we could use it.
Speaker 3: As you can see, we quit all our jobs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you make yourself feel better by making us feel better.
Speaker 1: That's the thing that I think.
Speaker 3: The last thing was I just posted this on Threads
Speaker 3: yesterday and I was making myself laugh. I do think
Speaker 3: I've mentioned this in the five and a half years
Speaker 3: that we've been doing the show, but it really makes
Speaker 3: me laugh. So here's my Threads post, and it's a
Speaker 3: true story. In the nineties, my friend and I tried
Speaker 3: to write a spec script for Friends, because remember, that's
Speaker 3: all you could do when you try. You're trying to
Speaker 3: be a You think you might want to be a
Speaker 3: writer and like write find a show you like, write
Speaker 3: a spect which is ridiculous, write a spec script for friends.
Speaker 1: And the b plot was that Ross.
Speaker 3: Ross got a really huge phone bill and it turns
Speaker 3: out Marcel the Monkey was somehow calling Mexico, and I
Speaker 3: just wrote. They didn't have threads back then, So I'm
Speaker 3: telling you this is here and it's one hundred percent true. Now,
Speaker 3: I just think that's really funny, just taking a full
Speaker 3: circle for all our jobs. When I first moved here.
Speaker 3: I mean, I wanted to be an actress, but everyone's like,
Speaker 3: you have to write a script though, even as an actress,
Speaker 3: like you have to have your you got to get
Speaker 3: in your you got to have you just got to
Speaker 3: be in a writer's room.
Speaker 1: There's no other way be here.
Speaker 3: And so yeah, my friend and I sat down on
Speaker 3: a word processor, no computer, a word processor, and we
Speaker 3: wrote a spec script for friends and that was one
Speaker 3: of the those one of the parts. And I think
Speaker 3: that that's kind of genius. But we never had anyone,
Speaker 3: you know, Marcel marcelle Mexico. I love it racking up
Speaker 3: a phone bill. It's so funny.
Speaker 2: Ross ideas that couldn't work now, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: because things have changed too much.
Speaker 1: Well, I can't a monkey call Mexico. Well long distance
Speaker 1: phone bills, I mean, don't have an international plan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how would he get the cell phone out of
Speaker 3: Ross's pocket? Yeah it was a landline that he was using.
Speaker 2: Right, But I'm saying it wouldn't be as bad even
Speaker 2: if the monkey got a hold of like the cell
Speaker 2: phone was calling Mexico, because there's it doesn't cost more.
Speaker 1: Money, right, Yeah, it would only be like a little egg.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was racking up like hundreds of dollars right right,
Speaker 3: and Ross couldn't figure out where it was coming from
Speaker 3: and was sort of accusing everyone.
Speaker 1: And then I mean it was pretty genius. I like it.
Speaker 1: Did you ever get any meetings from it? Well?
Speaker 3: She worked for a lit agent. She worked for and
Speaker 3: I think at one point she worked for even like
Speaker 3: I want to say, Brilstein, Like she had some inns.
Speaker 3: She was like an assistant, and so I think we
Speaker 3: got it into the agents, and then it's not.
Speaker 1: Go anywhere from there. It's probably just like just not
Speaker 1: really very good.
Speaker 2: I wrote some specscripts too, and you know, I always
Speaker 2: imagined that they must have sucked because I never got
Speaker 2: anything either. Uh, But it's funny because I found one
Speaker 2: of them recently and it was it was for Ellen
Speaker 2: for the Ellen.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Ellen con Oh for the Sick comic. Okay,
Speaker 1: even better, for the sitcom The Ellen Show.
Speaker 2: And I wrote it was about it was this librarian
Speaker 2: named missus Larabee was the librarian, and Ellen wants to
Speaker 2: be Ellen becomes a librarian somehow, and she ends up
Speaker 2: getting in an argument with like the kids and there
Speaker 2: and anyway, I don't remember I don't really remember it
Speaker 2: that well, but I reread it recently and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, this was really funny. You know what we
Speaker 1: should do.
Speaker 3: We should get a job where we read our specs,
Speaker 3: we each give ourselves parts.
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. People do it all the time. There's
Speaker 1: whole podcast.
Speaker 3: Where they read old scripts or spec like commscripts. We
Speaker 3: could cast a couple of people, get like two other
Speaker 3: people and do a zoom and I'm serious, read your
Speaker 3: ellen script.
Speaker 1: Why not? It can be a job. That could be funny.
Speaker 2: I have to find it, but then I have to
Speaker 2: get copies made and distribute that because.
Speaker 1: We don't have to actually do that. You just send
Speaker 1: it on the computer. I know, but I don't just
Speaker 1: have it. It wasn't in a computer.
Speaker 3: Scan it in thirty pages whatever, and then that's easier
Speaker 3: and then we just acted out, or we could just
Speaker 3: make it up.
Speaker 1: You're right, I'm seriously, it's kind of a cute idea.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure we finished the friend spec script, so
Speaker 3: I'm not exactly. I think I have a feeling knowing
Speaker 3: me especially and be like, just give them seven pages
Speaker 3: and see if we're on the right track.
Speaker 1: And she was probably like, we should probably write the
Speaker 1: whole time, Like.
Speaker 3: No, you don't even know we're on the right track,
Speaker 3: so we probably did that.
Speaker 2: Oh, I wrote the whole specs I wrote, I wrote
Speaker 2: a pilot two and yeah, and that never got anywhere.
Speaker 2: I wrote this with a friend of mine. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: and it's the same person who gave me the It
Speaker 2: doesn't it might have been a bad childhood, but it
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be the longest child that I that
Speaker 2: I wrote a script about having twins, about being the
Speaker 2: about twins, And this one person that we had a
Speaker 2: meeting with, who wasn't even that powerful, was like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just feel like you could have.
Speaker 2: Done more with like the twins aspect of it, like
Speaker 2: like how come they don't like dress alike?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, like it's a niked night show. Yes,
Speaker 1: And we were like.
Speaker 2: And then he said, well, you could rewrite it and
Speaker 2: like add some of the things that I've told you,
Speaker 2: but they are all just really hack right. She and
Speaker 2: I both have twins, so we were like, that would
Speaker 2: be a funny. It was like parents of twins kind
Speaker 2: of thing, and it was it was really it was
Speaker 2: like pretty funny, and we were having to take these
Speaker 2: like just.
Speaker 3: Ridiculous notes from people, and they were like, eking, person,
Speaker 3: it's all nonsense, No one gets anything. I can't tell
Speaker 3: you how many meetings when I thought I started writing
Speaker 3: these pilots and got myself a little manager, remember, and
Speaker 3: I was had all these little generals and I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: this is it, this is it, and it would just
Speaker 3: be a very disinterested person twenty five years younger than
Speaker 3: me who didn't get any of my jokes.
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, we're gonna pass. But it's so
Speaker 1: great to meet you. I met.
Speaker 3: I remember I met with Justin Hartley's remember from What's
Speaker 3: the show that everybody loved Justin Hartley?
Speaker 1: You know he's cutie. Yeah, the show with people and
Speaker 1: all the people and the show every night was known
Speaker 1: for Smallville. No, this is us.
Speaker 3: He's yes, thank you, this is us. And I had
Speaker 3: a perfect like I had him in mind. So I
Speaker 3: was excited to get a meeting like that's who I
Speaker 3: want for the part. And they're like, yeah, you read it.
Speaker 3: He's going to go a different way. And the way
Speaker 3: that he went though wasn't like an edgy what I
Speaker 3: was thinking, HBO type, you know scribe girls thing.
Speaker 1: He went to like U Chicago Fire. But it wasn't
Speaker 1: even that. It was just kind of it was like
Speaker 1: Dullas Airport Security show. It wasn't good.
Speaker 2: I was on a show called Tracker, but that was
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, so that wasn't it. No, it
Speaker 2: was something right before. So it was whatever was before Tracker. Aquaman,
Speaker 2: that's a good that's a good choice. Tell you some
Speaker 2: stuff he's been in.
Speaker 3: Like in the last five years. Maybe, well, Tracker was
Speaker 3: what he was in in twenty twenty four. The hunt
Speaker 3: been before was twenty like that fifteen?
Speaker 1: No, it would have been around there. But you take it.
Speaker 1: You can't help but take it personally.
Speaker 2: You're like, okay, quantum lep was it Quanta d No,
Speaker 2: that would have been way before.
Speaker 1: Well this was twenty twenty two to twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: It says, I mean the meeting would have been in
Speaker 3: like twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: Got it?
Speaker 3: Maybe okay we should say hello to maybe we acted
Speaker 3: out that thing.
Speaker 1: It was a really good script.
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