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r G. All right, that's all done and out of
the way. Let's get ready. This news the year was
a big leak of the Xbox handheld sort of. This
is a leak that started from an FCC filing of
all things. This comes via video cards. It's basically the
rog ally Too. And what we are getting from this
leak is there are two models of the rock ally Too,
as much as there was two models of the original
rog Ally a white model that's the kind of lower
end system and then a higher end black model that
has Xbox branding, including an Xbox Home button on it.
The leak specs show them both as having the rizin
Z two and Extreme in the Xbox model and AMB
four core ere plus in the Base model. They both
have a seven inch and twenty in megahertz screen. The
Xbox model has thirty two gigabytes of RAM while the
base has sixteen, so thirty two gigs of shared memory,
so you'll have to do the mix with the GPU
for v RAM, but still much more than we've had
an eighties machines so far. I think the I X
tops out of twenty four. So they also have some
leaked up looks like prototype hardware has that weird dusty
look that these things have and they're not smoothed out,
but very similar layout to the current Rock as far
as button placement goes with that extra Xbox button, but
also has much more ergonomic kind of grips built into
the chassis itself, so it actually looks like it'd be
a lot more comfortable to hold.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like the current Rock almost like GameCube
controller grips. It's not, yeah, you might know Xbox grips
because it's Xbox branded, at least on this one that
we're looking at right now. But yeah, it has like
those sort of vertical kind of skinny gamecub pandles on.
It looks a bit odd, actually, I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think kind of looking at it,
like there's there's pictures from different angles when you go
looking it up, I think that'll I as someone who
owns a Steam Deck and a rog ally, I much
prefer the ergonomics of the Steam Deck the ally. It's
very angular. I find it actually kind of uncomfortable to
hold at times. But you know, the question this raised
is what exactly's Xbox is involved with? But beyond this button,
will this kind of debut with this this supposed new
Xbox app experience that's being developed for Windows eleven, where
they'll be something even you know, more bespoke than that,
like an Xbox OS similar to SteamOS that's like a
game mode for Windows eleven. That's a possibility. We saw
the League screenshots that appear to be like an updated
Xbox app that had filters for things like Steam, which
could mean this could replace the armory Crate software as
you're kind of launcher on the system, whichuld be great
because I can't stand Armory Crate. Are you surprised for
getting this this soon? Like, especially with Steam kind of
saying we're really still a couple of years at least
away from a new Steam deck.
Speaker 2: So I think getting this one right now makes sense
because it presumably because Okay, like you said, there is
the black model that has the Xbox branding, and also
the white model that presumably is just the rog Ally too.
So it seems to me that like in production, they
had the rog Ally too ready to go. This was
something that they were always planning to do, a more
powerful handheld for people who want it, and then Xbox
came to them about this whole like whole marketing branding
thing while they get their own actual handheld figured out.
So I think this one makes sense. I think that yeah,
they they're basically rebranding the existing rog Ally two and
giving us this Again, it's basically just a paint job.
Was otherwise just rog Ally with GameCube handles, So I think, yeah,
this one was always going to be a product that
was on the market, and now Xbox is sort of
using it like a stop gap until they get to
whatever their actual handheld is. I saw in the Windows
Central article Jazz wrote that one up and he commented
that an actual like Xbox console, but it's a handheld.
It's like in the cards still and like I think
he was just like guestimating that would probably be like
twenty twenty seven. Maybe now he has more knowledge about
that that we do. But so it sounds like they
are going to do an Xbox handheld someday that will
play your Xbox games like your console Xbox games, which
it's important to note that's not what this is. This
is going to be a Windows eleven handheld that runs
PC games. It's going to be a great entry way
into like game Passinger, I think, like the rog Ally
one is, but it's not going to be running all
the console games that like series s quality and all
that stuff that people have been hoping for. But you know,
with that Xbox one there, maybe there is like you
are alluding to more to where they will finally have
something in Windows eleven that is a bit more handheld friendly,
a bit more controller friendly, more tied into the Xbox ecosystem.
Because as of right now, I have a Steam Deck,
I don't have the rock Ally. You tell me like,
you basically just boot into a desktop mode unless you
choose a launcher at boot right.
Speaker 1: Right, So the Ally has I mentioned Armory crate, which
is what Asus developed as a launcher, and that's where
you like control the options for the system. Things like
you can manually just how much of the RAM is
going towards v rams, so like I have mine shifted
to be six gigabytes of v RAM and on the
sixteen gigs total of the system. You can also have
links there too, like launchers like Steam, ub Soft, GG
things like that. But then you can also just launch
games directly. It's okay, it's it feels not great, it
can hang. Basically, I don't know if it's just a
lack of system resources or bad software. Especially so they
have their their version of the quick menu that comes
up on the left side of the screen, and that's
where you're just like selecting your frame rate, limits your
your overlays for performance. That's another thing that like you'll
hit it and sometimes like it doesn't take the control
over right away, so like you're still moving in your
game even though you're trying to navigate this menu because
you have to give it a second. So again I
don't know, like do they just like completely rely on
the Xbox game bar. That could be nicer as an option. Again,
this new Xbox app is a good universal launcher that
can get into your Steam library and your Epic Games library.
It's potential there for that to replace it. Now, like
I said, I don't know if it's going to be
just that updated Xbox app or if they will go
to a full on like game mode kind of like
Steam os does, where it's almost like, you know, a
boot in to desktop is a separate bespoke thing, and
then by default it's really just focused on playing games.
I mean at his core, you know, the ally is
just a Windows eleven laptop with a controller bolted onto
it and no keyboard. That is what that machine is
the day, which means you could do anything you want to.
It's a computer. You can play game pass, you can
play any store you want. You know, you're just dealing
with that Windows jank, which is not as bad as
I think people make it out to be. It's just
not as good as the Steam deck or a console
can be.
Speaker 2: Okay, Like yeah, because how do you how do you
feel about interacting with what is basically a laptop but
with kind of just a touch screen and analog sticks?
Like have you found it to be okay for the
most part? Are you using miss, Are you using like
Steam Big Picture mode or anything like that.
Speaker 1: No, I just I tend to just use the built
and launcher because it's the it's the quickest. Uh yeah,
I don't. I like, it's not great, but it's it's
the fastest thing to get in doings. It doesn't bother me.
But I'm like the kind of person who's willing to
put up with bullshit like that. But like, you know,
if if you had someone's more casual who was interested
in one of these handhelds, they should definitely get a
Steam Deck because it generally just works until you try
to play Fortnite and then you have that whole issue.
You know, not the one is the perfect solution yet.
Now the thing that I always said, which is why
I vastly prefer steam Deck on the general ergonomics, those
touch pads on the Steam Deck make a huge difference
for navigating the desktop experiences. At the least, you know
you're literally using either the touchscreen, which again is hard
because it's very small, or it's the right analog stick
is a virtual joystick for the mouse cursor, which doesn't
feel great. Like if I really need to do like
computer stuff on it, like i'm trying to install something weird,
I will get out like a Bluetooth keyboard mouse or
something like that, and like legitimate that route and that works.
Speaker 2: So like again it's just a computer, so that's fine. Meanwhile,
we're on the steam Deck. Like I love that I can.
Like I said, I was setting up some emulation stuff
the other night, and I could just use the touch
pads and the on screen keyboard to do everything that
I need to do. And the touch pads are fantastic.
The haptics, it's it's so wild. If anyone's ever used
a steam Deck, they know what I'm talking about here
where it feels like you are clicking. It feels like
you are, you know, doing like a click and a drag,
and like they simulate sort of a grainy feel when
you're moving things around using it. But then when you
turn the system off and you try like pressing on them,
it's weird that just nothing happens. They don't even budge.
It's just yeah, it's like I know what. The MacBooks
have gotten really good at this with the happics that
they have to make it feel like you're clicking, even
though it's just as static pads that way, they like
make thinner laptops. It's they are fantastic for navigating that
desktop mode. So I've wondered what's been like for people
who do use handhelds like this or like the the
Legian Go or stuff like that, and it seems like
not amazing.
Speaker 1: I get a lot of utility get I get a
lot of utility out of those pads. Like you know,
I play upliving on my Steam deck through g Force
now and all I did was just on you could
create these little virtual menus with those track pads. When
I place my thumb on that left pad, I get
quick save and quick load and depending what half of
that pad I push. Yeah, stuff like that, like like
it's nice. And you know the ally has two buttons
on the back. I wish it was four. And again
the armory create experience for mapping those buttons is I
don't I can't figure it out, which is not great
that I have trouble like a work consistently. It's weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So Jeff loves the radial menu thing for
like emulation stuff, and I've started using stuff like that
as well by gad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you if you use mujeck they have that
all set up in advance and like you could access
all the quick menus and everything. It's very nice. But
I mean, you know, the other advantage that the Ally
and especially the Alix says have over the Steam deck
is it is that touch more powerful. This with the
Rise and Z two Extreme will be even more powerful.
I mean, obviously the appeal to this, for especially someone
who owns these handhelds already is how much more powerful
will this be? You know, am I gonna finally get
sixty fps? And Monster Hunter? Which is hard to do
on a desktop sometimes, but even like you know, something
like like an Oblivion Remastered, is that gonna you know,
run comfortably at sixty on medium settings? Obviously we're gonna
have to wait and see kind of where that all falls.
And you know, if you're especially if you're upgrading from
a current device, is going to be worth it? Or
do you wait another generation? Right?
Speaker 2: I was trying to catch up on all the all
all the info that was leaking out here, and I
think why I gathered was it's interesting that the Ally
two is using this AMDA art plus, which is a
four core CPU, like you said, which apparently is an
evolution of the van Go architecture used in the Steam deck,
which I thought was interesting because I wonder if that's
actually going to be You will find out what that
looks like. I was wondering if that's.
Speaker 1: Going to even be better than the ALLY one.
Speaker 2: Or if it's maybe the base ALLY two sort of
a revision. And there's one with the Z two extreme,
the like highestciense chip that they'll be able to put
in all these things, like this Xbox branded one is
the enthusiast model because.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess the one thing I didn't point
out is that the the ALLY two is a twenty
watt CPU, whereas the Xbox branded one is a thirty
six swat what thirty is I think the max on
the current ALLY So Okay, it's going to take more
power presumably to have that bigger battery to compensate like
they did with the.
Speaker 2: X So maybe the base ALLY two is going to
be like comparable strength to the current one, but then
more efficient. And then the ALLY two Xbox Edition or
whatever is going to be like the Beefy one, because
that is the eye that.
Speaker 1: Seems that seems likely. And of course the other thing
we we don't know and will be interesting to see
what develops is price. I think the ally X is
what like eight hundred bucks, you know what first launched.
He's real than the original, that sounds because that's faster.
And then you know, the thing is the ally is
very frequently on sales. Steam decks are on sale, refurbished
ones are out there now. So I mean it'll launch
maybe around that eight dollars price point, maybe a thousand once,
you know, tear if some things settle, but if you
wait six months or so, you'll be able to get
a cheaper in all likelihood if it falls a similar pattern.
But again, who knows what's going to happen in the
future with all the gaming pricing bullshit right.
Speaker 2: Now right kind of on fire, so everything.
Speaker 1: Is like even Nintendo Nintendo today said, uh, you know,
the switch to price is set for launch, but they're
open to potentially raising it after the fact. Uh if
if the tariffs demand it. They're just they want to
establish the system, so they're willing to get it out
now at the current price, you know, and you know,
we have a ninety day hold which expires sometime in July.
I believe on any tariffs supposedly so they want to
get that launch going. They want to, you know, they
want to. They want to be able to say they
had the biggest console launch ever fifteen million units of
their projection, although some think it will be higher than that.
They think Nintendo's being conservative with that estimate. It's all
going to be a wait and see. Anything could happen
at any moment, which sucks because you know, it's nice
to know what's going to be going on. All right,
All right, let's uh, let's that's moving on to Mafia
the Old Country, which got a new trailer today. This
game launches on August eighth. I don't know who wrote this,
it's very offensive. They said the price is going to
be fifty gabba gules listen is way more than a buck,
okay for the deluxe edition, So fifty to fifty bucks
for you know, again, what looks like a big tripley game.
It's kind of weird that, like we're in this weird
space where there's these eighty dollar games, where there's really
good stuff coming out at a fifty dollars price point
that like you look at you like, why is that
thirty bucks? Sheep? It looks just as good to me.
But okay, the trailer was pretty good. What do you
think of it?
Speaker 2: I did not watch it yet. I'm gonna pull it
up on so help you are. I was by Gg.
I was busy getting food poisoned by Greg Miller as
cronies before the show. I'm sorry, but.
Speaker 3: He wasn't one.
Speaker 2: He put a heat on you, I know, I know
what I'm saying. Maybe he's trying to dismantles from the inside. Literally,
who can say? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Taking up by it's I think it's this is a
mafia marketing but scheme. Actually that's a hit out on Sean.
I thought it was a cool trailer though it's it's
a very well put together trailer. It's very exciting. It's weird.
You get like the vibes of of all things Assassin's
Creed and Indiana Jones because I think just because there's
a lot of like in this trailer of going around
some kind of like Vatican crypt looking thing. You's sneaking
up behind people and cutting their throats. But there's a
lot more action. There's not just stealth. He's throwing knives
and shooting people, and there's a knife fighting in a
car chase and a horse Chase because I don't know
how you know, the original Coffee games always were kind
of like that GTA vibe to them. I don't know.
The trailer doesn't really convey the open worldness of it
very much. It's felt very linear, but I don't I
don't know what the plan is, if this is supposed
to still be a open world or not. But I
was I was compelled by what I saw. This is
this is on my radar now where you know, I
was always kind of waiting see mode with it August eighth,
fifty fifty bucks, that that that that could that could happen.
Maybe it'll come to switch too.
Speaker 2: Ah yeah, what was it coming out on? Sorry, I
was getting it. I'm getting it pulled up for the
video this trailer.
Speaker 1: The ONLYK I was watching was on PlayStation shand I
believe it's PlayStation PC.
Speaker 2: And Xbox okay, so yeah, I could have a like
lower lower spect version for swischoo. I could see that
it does look very pretty, I will say, looking at this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very very very very attractive. Like I said, you
could see in this trailer how I get those Assassin's
screen vibes from this part here where he's with a
little bit of Indiana Jonestown.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're right now we're looking at him racing
around the car, and the visual identity does look a
lot like that machine Machine Games Indiana Jones. I will
say just something about the finish to everything. I definitely
see what you were talking about there. Oh that man
got lasted. God damn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is it's got that kind of good motion
blur and everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this looks very pretty and yeah I see that
sort of Yeah, maybe a little bit of Naughty Dog
in there with Yeah, Naughty Dog India Jones, the way that, Yeah,
it's adventure gaming. This looks I don't know. I I
played Mafia three for a little bit. I just didn't
really get into it. This seems like a decent departure
from what I remember the series to be.
Speaker 1: M h, I haven't played it. I played some of
the first two. I never touched three. Like I said,
they always it always felt it felt like it was
in that double a space for a long time for
the first two games in a way like like a
like an early Saints Row kind of did. It's just
this was like the old school Italian Godfather Vibes version
of that so this this feels like a step up
from that which is which is exciting again. I think
this uh looks compelling definitely. Do you ever see the
dumb Mafia tube video Mike and I did way back?
Oh boy, no, what's what's the lord on this one?
Fifteen years it was I think it was for bit Bob.
He was visiting me in my apartment in Pittsburgh and
he was like, hey, like, I had to write a
story for this Mafia too preview I got to do,
and I want to do a video to go with
the story. So we did some dumb thing where he
was sitting in my living roar meetings spaghetti and meatballs,
and he was talking about how there are a lot
of negative Italian stereotypes in the game and he's doing
all the Italian stereotypes. He like puts like peppers on
his meat while he eats. Oh, it's a spicy meatball.
And I came in and said something about how we
had to talk family business and we walk off camera,
and I said something about how Grandpa's not happy with
even though our grandfather had long been dead at that point.
But then you heard a gunshot and I said, tell
Grandpa we said hi, and I whacked him, I guess,
and I came in and hit the meatball and I said, Mama, Miah,
that is a spicy meatball. And I think we called him,
what's the matta you mafia too? That was the height
of comedy for us fifty. We've gotten better at this
is my point, have you know? I mean, don't see
every night but a little, a little bit. Oh good lord.
Speaker 3: But by the way, this, yeah, this game is not
going to be open world is going to be so
let me quote it. It's we're excited to offer a
game like Mafia, the Old Country and our portfolio a linear,
high polish narrative experience. They can easily complement the other
more persistent games our players also love and engage with
on a more consistent basis. That's the quote from the
two K Presidents.
Speaker 1: There are so many open world games, especially in that
kind of Xbox three sixty area, where it felt like
it would have been a better game if it wasn't
open world. Like the open world is just like something
to kill time while you move between missions. It's like,
why why is this just going? Why do I have
to do this busy work of driving around and trying
to find things that like obscure map that doesn't make
any sense.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, someone pointed this out. I didn't realize this.
It's a it's a fifty dollars game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said that several times. Okay, well, you know
what I was. I was busy doing production work. I
really am just fill your role. He bucks for it
for a linear, like really nice looking action game set
in old school Italian mafia stuff. Sign me up, sign
me up, I will, I will pay fiftys.
Speaker 2: It feels bad. It feels real bad to admit that
I've turned into grub.
Speaker 1: Okay, off on you all right, final story here. You
guys touched on this and then ten Dogs. But GTA
six has been delayed to May of twenty twenty six.
But as a make good we did get a new
trailer for the game. Uh supposedly this trailer was captured
on base PS five hardware. That's supposedly what it's gonna
look like a mix of in game cinematics and gameplay.
So that's exciting. What did you think, Sean on nintend
Dogs You sound a little nonplussed by the whole thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, just in the sense that I didn't give
me any more or less excited for the game, because
I do think it hits a lot of the same
story beats. And by the way, no, I'm not showing
that one on the video version because I'm scared about
getting the lawyers for GTA Mafia. I don't think they
care about as much.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: No, like the game always looked good from that initial
revealed trailer. I thought everything looked great, and this one
kind of just reiterates what's going to be in the game,
what the characters are doing. You know, who the main
character is, in her relationship with her partner and everything
like that. No, No, I still think it just continues
to look visually fantastic. And if you're just exploring the
GTA version of Miami or whatever, I think, yeah, I'm
still on board. I'm just not any more or less
on board after this trailer.
Speaker 1: What this truely did for me that I didn't give
in the first one is it told me why I
want to play as these characters, which is something GTA
five never did for me. So this is my weird
gamer thing. I've never touched g five. I think I
own it. Really never fired it up, and part of
it was nothing about the three main characters that game
appealed to me in any way, shape or form. I
did not want to play those those characters. I didn't
want to spend time with them, like nothing, but like
about it was like this sandbox is worth investig in,
so you could experience it as these three dudes. It
just had no interest, Like you had not Italian Tony Soprano,
the weird deranged guy who he's weird and deranged. Oh
his neck tattoo says, got here, isn't that crazy? And
then like you know, you had the kid who's like
the one who gets caught up and everything. He was
like the most interesting, I guess, but like I don't know,
I just it wasn't for me. This whole dynamic of
this young couple. She's out of jail, they're they're they're
trying to get by, they're doing these heists, but they're
also like romantically involved. It kind of has like it
gives me like an old school film the War vibe.
I don't know if anyone's ever seen the movie Gone Crazy,
which is like a classic film the War. It gives
me that vibe of this kind of couple who do
these crimes and that's kind of like also the spark
of their romance. And if it wasn't for the excitement
of doing these crimes, they probably wouldn't work as a couple.
I could see that being a cool story. I would
be shocked if the story writers did not watch Gun
Crazy while they were working on these characters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and as we know, like it was nothing but
movie tropes and just what the writers had drawn influence
from being worn very prominently on their sleeves. They do
their lot, like especially if you look to other you know,
Miami type game that they did with Vice City, like
that does just scarface for the most part, like and
other movie tropes of the era and stuff. But I mean,
I'm you know, that doesn't mean that storytelling will be
any I guess I'm gonna say again, like more or
less interesting, because I don't know if the type of
satire that GTA has always brought to the table is
still going to hit the same way or on the
same level in twenty twenty five. Because it was one
thing when it was you know, the Bush era, and
we could kind of just we were all kind of
just making fun of oh, yeah, everything's weird right now,
and we're going to war and that's really scary and
just nobody's kind of happy about that. But now it's
in a way where it's like, you know, without going
too far down that path, things feel a little more
dangerous or shall we say right now and talking about
that kind of thing. I don't know if they're going
to want to go down that path in the favor
of maybe you know, reaching more general audience by not
having that type of commentary, shall we say.
Speaker 1: Well, And the other thing I guess I got from
the tone of this trailer is is it does feel
a little more mature is not the right word, but
less immature, I guess. Sure. Yeah, I mean there there
was there was obviously some goofy things that's still give
me be a GTA game, but it wasn't anything that
was like South Park level humor, right, you know, anything
like like goofy like that. It felt a little more
grounded than what I think you'd expect from a GTA,
which again appeals more to me. So I don't know
if that's what they're going for. You know, it felt
like I could have shown this trailer to someone, you know,
and kept the resolution low enough, so maybe they didn't
realize it's a video game, and I told them this
was a new show coming to HBO. They might have actually.
Speaker 2: Believed that that's a good points that it has that
thought to it, right, And yeah, I've played I think
every GTA game. I didn't play a ton of four
because I was from the era where I didn't have
one of the leading consoles at the time. But it's
like I've played all the games, and yeah, they've all
had some level of goofiness. Like you mentioned, I think
g t A four actually may have may be like
the most serious of the bunch, if nothing else for
the main character being more serious than the other main characters. Yeah,
even like you know, GTA five and the ones before
with the GT eighth Reach trilogy all definitely were more
tongue in cheek and this one feels more like adventure.
Speaker 1: Who was God?
Speaker 2: Who whose song did they have in that initial reveal trailer?
I forget it was?
Speaker 1: Was it was someone?
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's from the seventies eighties, but like just
that vibe that they were having a little more maybe
psychedelic competti, thank you chat Chat, thank you chat. That
definitely set a different tone than the trailers that we
saw for the other games. So yeah, I see what
you mean there.
Speaker 1: And again that's the other thing too, So I mean,
I know this is an eighties Vice City, but because
it is Vice City, Vice City had such a good soundtrack,
and if they kind of capture some of that, at
least have like I want that like in the endgame
radio stations that eighties channel that has all that like
kind of stuff we associated with old school Vice City
because I love eighties music like that. That's my chances
cruising around at night with the Neon music.
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, hell yeah, Light Lights continues to look good
and I continue to be excited for it. We'll uh,
we'll see it come out a day before my birthday,
aj is when that game comes out, So I have
your birth on me. I'm gonna have a fun weekend there.
Speaker 1: Very exciting. Let's uh, let's take a quick break. We
come back, we'll get to some super chats and then
we will get to our topic this evening. We're gonna
do the mount rushmore of GTA clones after this break
and we're back. Oh anyone, Yeah, shout out to GFW radio.
All right, let's get into some super chats please, Shonathan,
you got AJ.
Speaker 2: First up, yep, from Slain mcawsome, Rob and AJ. They
know it's gonna be Sean and AJ. What is Mike
Minatti's fucking deal?
Speaker 1: Let me tell you. Let me tell you. Look, he's
the middle child and he gives off big middle child energy.
You've all heard him say it, and it's not a joke.
This was the family saying. If Mike he ain't happy,
ain't nobody happy. Man.
Speaker 2: Just the fact of life, as we have all learned
over the years. So he just just always been that way,
just inescapable.
Speaker 1: Well, he complained the loudest, so it's just easiest to
keep him happy. And I complained the least, so I
had to go ask for no pickles on his sandwich
and they screwed up his order.
Speaker 3: Ah.
Speaker 2: I see. And then now he carries that energy for
Jeff as we saw him blue Sky. There he's the
he asked for.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Next up is from dat boy Jerry rub I apologize
Jerry the Grub. I know you can't get into details,
but listening to former GB staph comments on the situation
last week, there's one thing everyone seems to agree on.
Dan is the fucking man, you know what Jen is.
Speaker 1: We can all agree on that.
Speaker 2: We all know that, like Jane universal universally, Jan is
the glue that holds everything together.
Speaker 1: Wherever it is. We can talk about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we fuck with Jan. Uh it's time from Saskatchewan
because he's not here. What is Mike's worst ake that's
not commonly brought up? You think you get shoot hot
about if you confronted him about it, knowing that we
don't usually give him ship for.
Speaker 1: Here's one that you guys could dig on him. This
isn't too contable, but he will get pissy about it.
He hates the movie Brave, absolutely hates it. But I
think I think it's fine. The Pixar movie where the
Redhead and they he hates that movie.
Speaker 2: Why does he have a thing? A's gingers like, well,
what the hell did that movie?
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. His argument is not invalid. It's it's
it's he's not wrong. It's a very small movie. It
doesn't go a lot of places. There's literal waypoints that
take the characters where they need to go, and it's
it's it's just kind of predictable. But I think there's
still it's a very pretty movie. There's some good themes,
I said. I told him it hits a little more
as apparent. I think that maybe I get a little
more out of it than he does. And you know
that's fine. But he like he's not willing to hear
any argument in favorous movie. He just hates it.
Speaker 2: I see it. I watched it once and I thought
it was fine. But I'll make sure bring it up
when when comes back, Simon back again. Video description from
a legit Canadian news site. Bizarre traffic stop in Ohio
sees pet raccoon holding meth pipe. The pipe was in
heats bag.
Speaker 1: I saw this headline in the photo. Actually I thought
it was fake. I didn't know that was real. So Ohio, we're.
Speaker 3: Wacky apparently, kracoon, you know.
Speaker 2: It is that why the kids are making fun of y'all,
like you're all like doing math in the streets and
the machines.
Speaker 1: I mean, Pennsylvania has been making some inroads lately, but
it's still between us and Florida. Okay, absolutely uh.
Speaker 2: Rounding out the trio from Simon here, I went back
and rewatched ol God the wife of the episode. Many
great line reads in that one. Mike saying she's Mike
saying she's got some good milkers is an all timer, thoughts, AJ,
we killed.
Speaker 1: A reminder that Mike Natty's family does listen to his content.
Speaker 2: Hi, Chris, how you doing?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: I thought we all agreed to bury that one. I
thought we all agreed to take it out back.
Speaker 1: More Star Systems and Wi fus will slip through your finger?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you did give them the episode number less's
kind of went back.
Speaker 1: See this big shiny red button.
Speaker 2: Don't from a dark steel brush wag. I have watched
the Wi Fu episode. I don't understand why it's so controversial.
I thought this was a gooner safe community, new one
for patrons only. What is our reputation out there?
Speaker 1: What that could be? That could be? That could be
a patron perk. I'll tell Jeff they'll do They'll do
Wi Fu weekly exclusive for patreons subscriptions. Christian, what's the update? Christian?
Speaker 2: How how many patrons do we need for wife episodes?
Speaker 1: Next?
Speaker 3: I said next week. I was going to do it
this week, but now let's let let's let's let's reveal
the number next week. Okay, that's right, that's right, that's right,
I want Mike and Chef to be here for this, for.
Speaker 2: The m in suspense chat. A gooner website is not
the same as sex positive outlet christ Alive Brian Corlis.
Have you all seen that nine hundred and ninety nine
times car speed run of GTA four, I'll say, speed
up like a thousand times. Some of the funniest Benny
Hill bullshit I've seen in a while, love y'all joke. Yeah,
you put the Benny Hill music cars assuming around. Yeah.
I haven't seen it either, but it sounds like it
would be a fun time. Dark Steel brush Bag is back.
Claire up Scure is so good it gives me hope
for the future of gaming. Yeah, Age, you've been playing
Expedition three or three?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'll talk about it now. So I haven't
known anything new too much to say. I've just been
plugging away at it. I haven't played as much as
liked him. Last week we had commencement at work, so
it was is the weekend. But I really hope between
this and hopefully if Mafia hits, we see the value
and we see the financial viability of smaller studios making more.
I don't want to say smaller games and more scoped out,
proper league games that can't succeed at a fifty even
sixty dollars price point. I'm willing to pay sixty much
for these games if they're good. You know, thirty hours
is a phenomenal length for an RPG for me, So yeah,
I hope the success of this game has some ripple
effect on the industry where people realize we don't need,
you know, five years and a thousand people to make
this seventy dollars game that frankly ends up feeling like
eighty percent filler. I'd rather have a more focused, uh,
more economically created game that still looks and plays fantastically. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: I feel the same way just having something that's a little,
frankly less ambitious in scope, just having something that they
know they want to make a smaller project. They make
a smaller project and it's still a quality It's absolutely
still quality because they just focused a focus project, I
think is the word I would use. But also it
is filled with stuff to do. That main story is
thirty hours, but there is like a whole bunch of
side QUESTI stuff if you want to do it, I
think the way they made the game feels like they
made the world they want to make, but they made
a very clear and defined through lines began to end
that is, just have quality time, and then they put
in all the stuff that they want to in order
flesh out the world. It just feels like a well
made game. I think when you have these like people
who have come from our studios coming together to this
new studio and making the game they want to make,
that's what you get. So yeah, definitely a fantastic game.
And I agree because we hope then the I guess
double A spaces where I would put this is future
is brightess like with the indies nowadays.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're right, it's double A. But you know
it's better than what we call double A. Well, now
that we have quadruple A, I guess double A has upgraded.
It's moved up a tier exactly we.
Speaker 3: Had quintuple Contuple A is with the what's the pirate game?
Remember that we have yet to get to.
Speaker 1: Yeah look at there someday, don't you worry any day? Now?
Speaker 2: From draw Comics, what's your favorite kind of pizza Detroit,
New York or Pope style deep dish?
Speaker 1: I see what you did there. I see what you
did there. Still like young Pizza, But there's a sound
I was supposed to do with this, hold on back
of what the hell is Youngstown pizza?
Speaker 2: What does that mean?
Speaker 1: Youngstound pizza is different from the other pizzas us. It's
closest to Detroit as far as the crust goes. But
we don't do that like like edge to edge with
the cheese all the time, and it's round, you know,
you make it with like more of a traditional Sunday sauce.
It said, like, you're kind of more like the fresh
tomato based pizza sauce you get in New York. And uh,
the true Youngstown Pizza is a Briar Hill pizza. This
is a pizza where you got your Sunday sauce. You
have just Romano cheese and Bell peppers and it is fantastic.
Speaker 2: Take your word for it on that one.
Speaker 1: Someday, someday you're gonna come here. We're gonna get you
some good pizza.
Speaker 2: No inh get you a good pizza in the middle
of Oh yeah, I'm sure as a postal landed cheese
and meat.
Speaker 1: I need you to just trust me on this one.
We have so many good local pizza places here that
will knock your socks off.
Speaker 2: Okay, I will say, I will say I probably do
actually like to have all those New York the best.
I've never been a fan of the Chicago Deep Dish.
I have like the really good as people call the
Chicago Deep Dish. The last time I was in town
for Combo Breaker, I just wasn't really that impressed. I
just don't see the appeal of it. It wasn't bad,
but I've had it once.
Speaker 1: I mean, is good, but it's not like I like
pizza because, like you know, I could eat two or
three pieceas be good. But if I'm like drunk at
a party, I could eat like a whole fucking pizza
and have a great time. I cannot eat that much
Chicagosh pizza without eating myself. It's John Stewart. Yeah, it's
a cast, very perfect.
Speaker 3: Looks looks looks so good. I want that stuff so bad.
Speaker 1: Mhm.
Speaker 2: From Absurd Ziggy One Love Grubs, Minot's Don and Chris,
Kristen and Carter and the Queen. We finally have a
pope again, this time from Joysey.
Speaker 1: That's right, is he originally from Jersey. I think, I think,
I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know where that is from. He's he's spoken Spanish,
so to me he's he's Peruvian. I don't know. In
my book he like he is.
Speaker 1: Weird that that is just an American pope, like like
so much like growing up to me, like like the
pope was so associated with Italy, like I just assume a. Yeah,
it's it's just weird, just some some some dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah person, No, sorry, the dela is crazy. Sorry I
wasn't just is the moment's.
Speaker 2: Going okay from l Grugg as Jeff, I'm from Ohio.
Grub has renounced Detroit style, Dan Campbell the concept of hockey,
and his brother Jason does a j except him as
a fellow Ohio ling or will Jeff have to convert
to Indiana and.
Speaker 1: Oh no, Jeff, Jeff, jeff'son Ohio boy. He spent enough
time in Columbus and now Cleveland to to be one
of us. He's got that except him, that of the
Ohio light.
Speaker 2: It's Ohio in I think, I think Mike I've.
Speaker 1: Said it out loud. Yeah, that's what he is.
Speaker 2: He's got the Ohio stink on him. Now you can't
get rid of him. Now, yes, you really can't get
rid of from Taco Belmont. Uh oh, that's good name.
In celebration of Chicago Pope, here's a hot dog on me.
Chicago style is undefeated, hensh and I agreecho hot dogs
are fantastic.
Speaker 1: I've never had a Chicago sat but I don't know
if I want that much stuff on my hot dog.
Speaker 2: Oh it all comes together so well though, that's the thing.
It all compliments the dog.
Speaker 1: I mean, I I again, this is the Cleveland boy me.
I just want a hot dog with ballpark mustard and
nothing else. I don't even like relish your onions or anything.
Speaker 2: That's a minati. That's a minati take right there. It's
weird because it's like you're not adding anything crazy. I guess,
like the peppers, if you pickle on there, well you
you can have it like that.
Speaker 1: It's also like I.
Speaker 2: Guess, okay, I guess it does come by default with tomato.
I forget that because I.
Speaker 1: Don't like to mata tomato. I don't like tomato.
Speaker 2: I get wow tomato, but like like the pickle, the peppers,
the dressings, and like the poppy sea bun everything. Oh no,
for some reason, it like compliments everything so well. I
like it. I like a lot, especially that like the.
Speaker 1: Just never appealed to me, but maybe I'd got to
give it a shot. I am open to the idea.
Speaker 2: Big Nikki Alberto dropped a super chat with no message,
but thank you. We appreciate it. El Grugg is back.
Is it weird that this podcast now has one less
boomer energy that usually does? Even though Aj is older
than Mike. Keep up the good work, guys, O Penis.
Speaker 1: It's because Jeff is so much older than me. Is
that even true?
Speaker 2: Aren't you like a year older than the world may
never know?
Speaker 1: You say, older than three hundred some days. That's a
lot of days.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I see you're you're talking like when Dan
would always yell at back Laura about being so old. Uh,
Willow Davis best episode yet? Jeff and Mike would be proud,
ri ip I. I appreciate that one. I don't know
about best episode yet. Yeah, well we'll carry, we'll carry.
Speaker 1: The torture has yet to come.
Speaker 2: Big Fresh Story SA, Big Fresh Story seven and got
that crazy taxi three tweaks but still won't boot. Oh interesting,
I don't know why.
Speaker 1: That would be. I will say that CT three you
talked about. I haven't gone around to it.
Speaker 2: It's it's finnicky because you're like modding a really old
PC version, So I don't know. Any number of things
could be wrong there. I would anytime you're doing a
project like this, I would just recommend like starting from
square one. If you're having issues.
Speaker 1: Is that you there? You're back? There?
Speaker 2: You go?
Speaker 3: I changed the servers.
Speaker 2: Okay, can we all hear each other now?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: I think I think we can. Everything was broken.
Speaker 2: Those two leave for one night, and everything breaks when
they hand us the keys.
Speaker 3: Here, Christ, this car broke in YouTube broke. That was crazy.
That never happens. It's always either one either YouTube or
is either DICRD. But this time both of them broke.
Speaker 1: So crazy. Okay, I soldier on. I miss anything. You're
talking about blueprints.
Speaker 2: Someone was giving me crap for not liking blueprints. I
was gonna ask you, have you been playing it at all?
Do you have any thoughts on it?
Speaker 1: Yes? I kind of fell off it when Oblivion and
Expression thirty three came out. I do want to get
back to it. I haven't rolled credits yet. I want
to at least roll credits. I'm not if I'm gonna
put like two hundred hours in there like people have.
I don't want to beat it once.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Christian, are you playing it?
Speaker 3: No, I'm not. It's just too many games out there,
so I can like, if I play this game, it's
going to take over my life because I'm a sickle
for that kind of game. So I'm just waiting for
it well cold times.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, oh yeah, yeah, gotcha? Uh. From Baba's me,
Mike sure seems smarter and Jeff much younger tonight. Thanks
for doing this boys. Look, we're trying to hold it down.
YouTube was again our way, Discord was again our way.
The Di Giorno Pizza Company once again our way. But
god damn it, we're still braining a podcast tonight.
Speaker 1: We will not be silenced. That's right.
Speaker 2: From Endo Viking, we have Mike Manatti and Jeff Brubb
at home. Look, I don't know if that's I don't
know how I should take that, but I.
Speaker 1: Mean we are home while they're off traveling doing fun stuff.
That's true.
Speaker 2: Will they get paid to do all the fun stuff?
From Hex's professor, Oh I don't know that thing is
in Disney's pocket at this point. From Hex's professor, I wish,
I wish we were in Disney's pocket. All right, let's
keep it wrong.
Speaker 3: From Hex professor, refresh people if you can, all right.
Speaker 2: Okay, my squeeze a little blurry. You two sound different?
Are you sick? Well, hopefully you get well soon. We
were a little different than in the usual crew, but
not too much.
Speaker 1: Right now, I'll just see my Micronatti fa and You'll
just never know the difference because I'm Mike Maddy. I
don't like apples. They're they're they're wet and gross.
Speaker 2: Sound just like him? Uh from a big NICKI Alberto
Jeff Grubb is still a threat. I've been listening for
a long time, but I've never watched. But damn do
all the boys in Mitch's family look the same and
so handsome?
Speaker 1: Oh oh softy.
Speaker 2: The family resemblance in the Minatis, though, is kind of uncanny,
you know, like it is wild how much you guys
look the same. And then like Chris is the same
with hair Man.
Speaker 1: Well, I always say, if it's just me and Chris
or Mike and Chris, You're like, yeah, they look similar,
But when we're all three together, it's like, oh, Mike
and AJ look like identical, And then who's Chris? Like
his difference has become more apparent when we're all three
with each other.
Speaker 2: From Willow Davis, which Apple would you force Mike to
eat if you could? I'm a big fan of the g.
Speaker 1: No, but see, like, if I got to make him
eat one, I want him to possibly potentially like it.
So I'll go with Honey Crisp because it's like easy
Gray Smith, that's too intense for your first and thirty
some years apple.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's like, yeah, sour, the sour hits so
good though, but yeah, yeah, I get you, guys, I'm
off small Semon Smith.
Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, maybe a candy Apple. Let's take it easy.
Speaker 2: I'm going with caramel first, make him think that's candy. Yeah,
let's see here from a poke egg? Is this less
of the team nin TEAMU dogs much love Enore because
we're because we're the knockoffs a jac.
Speaker 1: I assue what you did there? How dare you then
racketing dogs at least? Okay?
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, we're we're the not we're the at home
crewe apparently. Let's see Jordan is up next. Thanks for
in the show tonight, boys. Check out the Zootex Zone
handheld Sometimes. I love my o led dual touch pads,
the prizingly great B pad and Windows for my gg
library and bad Destiny to have it. I don't think
I've ever heard of the Zootax Zone before, have you a.
Speaker 1: J I don't think I have either? Interesting?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I'll have to check it out now, let
me let me google it real quick here, all right? No, yeah,
this kind of looks seamed Deck esque, mister b lts.
Do we think the Xbox version of this rog will
be available at game Stop Slash best Buy? Being an
Xbox item, I wonder if GameStop will get it this time?
Speaker 1: I think is the current one at GameStop, I mean
anywhere the current ones are I expect to find this
one also, I've seen the current one a best BUYE
I believe I know that on their web side they
have it. I mean, Stein has the benefit of being
on Steam, which just gives you such a big built
in the audience. I think this thing needs a big
box presence, so there, Okay.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I think I think if it's has the
Xbox kill marketing. They're going to trap as many places
as it can be, so I won't be surprised if
you do see it at at those big retailers and
probably Amazon everywhere as well. I imagine they'll put as
many places as possible. Yep, all right from Phantom twenty three.
Hope everyone can check out May's Mice. It just started
early access and as pac Man meets Vampire Survivors with
super hot time. Interesting.
Speaker 1: That sounds exciting.
Speaker 2: That does sound like a signing combination. Let me let
me check the Steam patriots see what is a May's mice?
Speaker 1: Typed May's mace And that's why I wasn't finding it
and I found some Minecraft item instead. What is this? Oh?
Speaker 2: Thanks Siri pulled up for me. That's really what I
wanted there.
Speaker 1: Uh but what heaven rogue light? That's interesting?
Speaker 2: Interesting scot pixelar in there.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's what it is, but I'm getting
weird choo true rocket vibes round for some reason.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah from from the art style and how I yeah,
I see what you mean.
Speaker 1: Just a little bit just cats chasing a mouse around.
I think that's all it takes.
Speaker 2: Looks cute. I'll check it out later. I think it's
a budget games, so it might be U might be
a good pickup to.
Speaker 1: Wish lists was a demo'll download the demo?
Speaker 2: Nice okay, brom Diogo RP. Question for a j as
newfound love for football? Did you watch the Barcelona Slash
intro game?
Speaker 1: No? I didn't, So I'm still I'm still expanding slowly here.
So I'm very into the Premier League. I'm watching MLS
when I can. I'm a Columbus Crew supporter, but I
haven't gotten into the other leagues heavily yet obviously, like
Liverpool is playing in the Champions League or stuff like that.
I watch those games, but like, yeah, I didn't watch
Oh who did Parisingtu may just be international? Yeah? But
who who?
Speaker 2: Who?
Speaker 1: Who? They just take out.
Speaker 3: Barcelona?
Speaker 1: Didn't I who did?
Speaker 4: PSG just be oh ps G joy yourself talking Arsenal?
Yeah yeah it was Arsenal.
Speaker 3: Yeah everybody?
Speaker 1: So yeah, like I said, I didn't like watch that
game to see like what happened. Once once little polls out,
I was done. But as I get more, you know,
the chat had me. Once I get more and more, Uh,
time to to kind of settle into these things. I
do want to watch more and more because I tell it,
I enjoy watching it more than any other sport except
for maybe baseball on television. Oh huge, All the Minatis
are baseball fans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I knew Mike was into by enough. All, okay,
that's cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like.
Speaker 2: In person, but I like watching on TV and I'm
listening on the radio. And now not as big as
a fan.
Speaker 1: Quick story to everybody, So like Mike, yes, big baseball
fan now. But we were kids, we went to a
lot of games and like the like the mid nineties
when the Indians were like the best team in baseball,
we just couldn't win a damn World Series. So our
dad's a doctor, and there was a pretty common practice
where drug reps from pharmaschool companies with just basically bribe doctors.
And one of the common things they would do is
they would rent out like the loges at sporting events.
And the catch was like during the sixth inning, my
dad had to go like watch a power point. But
they got to go to these games, and he would
refuse to go if they didn't provide tickets for his family.
So we went to multiple games a season in a
private catered loge with you know, unlimited food and incredible seats,
and we'd watch these baseball games and we could take
my grandfather with us because he's, you know, big base
full guy. He's the one who taught me the game
in the love of the game. So he and ireson
there like this is great. Look at the Indians. There's
Kenny lofton. There's Mike inside the logs, not watching the
game on his Dan game Boy because he didn't care
about baseball. He's so disgusted with himself that he like
squandered this opportunity when we had it. Because they don't
do that anymore. It turns out that's kind of illegal,
But back then it was fair game.
Speaker 2: It's great, the good old days, as they called him.
Yes next time from i DK, I ter Boomer Sean, Yeah,
I'm certainly feeling like it tonight. I've got all the
Jeff isms. I was late to the podcast. I wasn't
paying attention. My airnet shanged the bed in the middle
of the show. It's great, we're having a great time
right here. Well, name true the name from Big Nikki
Alberta who made the spaghetti for this video, I have
to find oh for the for the the bit mob
one you mentioned.
Speaker 1: I probably did. I cook. I actually cooked quite a
bit and I have cooked for a long time. Yes
for the Mafia too. And I finally think I've nailed
down my sauce recipe. Last time I made sauce was
probably the best. I made the same with my meat balls.
They got a little overcooked because I set the one
setting on my cooker wrong I was using, so they
were a little not as tender as I would have
liked my balls. But the flavor on my balls was
on point. You guys can have that one for free.
Speaker 2: Clean read Clean, Read.
Speaker 1: You're welcome.
Speaker 2: I saw we drop some frames. I might I still
going to your guys's end. Hey, J.
Speaker 3: It looks fine on.
Speaker 1: Your voice is out of sync with your video and discord.
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Well keep trucking. We'll keep trucking. From going,
keep going, from Ampa Eater AJ, How proud are you
of Mike for a writing cosmic?
Speaker 1: Rewind All right, everyone, I'm just gonna tell you right now,
you're gonna want to listen to episode of nineties Disney
and you're gonna enlisten this story because this was the
one phone call I've gotten on this trip, and I
laughed my ass off. That's your teas for the bonus
episode of nineties Disney that'll come out sometime next week. Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: Mikey O'Leary, the day after your birthday more like Grand Theft, Shawn,
Oh hey, god nail day one, Mikey, the day before
the day before if I misspoke, it's a day before
my birthday. From Matt Rare Monkey. Halo Community Night this Saturday.
That's right, Matt and some folks, I think fire Hair
and people are set up Halo Infinite Night. If you
are in the game mess discord, so definitely get in
there if you're patron, a YouTube member or anything like that,
and hang out with our one. I might try to
stop in if I have time. I'm often busy on
the weekends nowadays, but if I have time, I think
I'll try.
Speaker 1: We'll be on Saturday night. We we did those closer
to the launch and it was a good time. So yeah,
you guys all participate. I like Halo and Fanstill.
Speaker 3: I'm offended they didn't believe in me. That I was
going to remind people to do that, but that's okay.
I was going to do at the end of the
bookcast but that's fine.
Speaker 1: Better safe than sorry, Christian, that's right.
Speaker 2: From Patrick Ford. Cheers, boys, just learned that Shawn and
I share a birthday. Hey, what's up?
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Speaker 1: A, you'll never walk alop.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, look at that as a scarf, ready
to go, ready to go and everything. Oh my god,
you're you're falling on on this. Now, this is has
become part of the AJ personality.
Speaker 1: Huh, it really has. I really do love it. I
have to say I'm surprised, honestly how much I love it.
Like my wife didn't believe me for like the first
two years, but I think even she's like, Okay, this
is this is one of your weird quirks now, all right?
Speaker 2: From Bander s And I saw thunderbolts? Am I supposed
to pronounce the asterisk on thunderbolts? Or is it just think?
Speaker 1: Good?
Speaker 2: Okay, I saw thunderbolts this past week. Does anyone else
think Sean looks like Bob? I have not seen thunderbolts?
Speaker 1: I wanted to see it. I'm hearing good things. Maybe
once Mike and Chris are back in town, will seek
out for an evening and see it.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I'll let chat tell me if I do
in five with her Bob from Chuktowski, Damn, Mike got Handsomer.
Speaker 1: That's it's the red, the contacts.
Speaker 2: The lack of glasses changes in Manati Forever, Superman from
Daity Camp. Have you had Swedish banana curry pizza? It's
kind of okay.
Speaker 1: I know, I know what this is. I've never had it,
but know, but it only just makes me think of
that episode of Doug. There's a Boomer reference for you.
If you see all that set of Doug with the
banana pizza. I always thought that might actually be good.
Is this was this in first run Doug or a
second runner Nickelodeon Doug? Not? Okay?
Speaker 2: That's why then I never have seen it because I
never saw Nickelodeon Dog. I only sell once it was
on ABC. Gotcha.
Speaker 1: That's too bad, So I hear.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize there was such a huge difference. People
had to like, teach me this from Inky mess. I
need this Minati cookbook, please, how much.
Speaker 1: Someday, someday. I've always if I had the time, I
want to do like a cooking YouTube channel or TikTok
channel or something so bad. But it's just I don't
have the time. Don't I want to, but I don't.
I tried filming a proof of concept where I did.
I did. I did these really good smoked chicken drum sticks.
But you see the lollipop chicken where you like, you
take the chicken and you like smush the meat down,
you cut off the so the bones exposed. It looks
a little lollipop. You smoke it, you dunk in the
pineapple barbecue glaze. It delicious. I film it's a proof
of concept, and it took way too much effort. I
was like, nah, I can't do this every time I
cooked dinner.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Meanwhile, I'm over here popping some tyson in the
in the oven on the freezer. That's the extent of
my chicken cooking.
Speaker 1: If you all go to Barneslowbill, you'll probably find this book.
There's a book called Cooking with four Ingredients I've still
seen in circulation. I bought a copy of this. My
roommate and I we were living together in college our
junior years, and that's how we learned to cook. We
went through almost every recipe in that book that we bought,
Cooking with five Ingredients, and went through that book, and
that's how I learned to cook.
Speaker 2: Can be okay, just start slow, huh exactly? Okay, Well,
I do believe we are all caught up on super chats.
Speaker 1: Thank you for thank you everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, there's still a lot of super chests coming
in here even as things are selling down. Thanks for
bearing with us as maybe something's crappen the but on
my end, we all know. But I think aj I'll
toss back to you. We want to go to a
break and they'll get the game set up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's take a little bricky break. I'm gonna go
use the potty, I think, and then we will come
back with our topic, the amount Rushmore of GTA clone.
So don't go anywhere, we'll be right back. Welcome back
to the show where we were about to do the
mount Rushmore of GTA Clones. Sean, Yes, I see you
have a lovely bull Google document for us. I would
you like to kick off the nominations?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so when I think a GTA Clone. First of all,
are we going to say anything else that rock Star
has done in that vein as off luents like like
Bully Count Bully?
Speaker 1: I think not probably Red Dead, I think I think
that's that's not the spirit of what we're talking about, right,
We're talking like some some other with you. I to me,
a GTA clone is something that's trying to be open
world in a modern setting that doesn't have the budget
of a Rockstar game.
Speaker 2: Right, So I'm thinking that I'm thinking of something like
Sleeping Dogs came to mind. Okay, this is one that
I really like.
Speaker 1: I haven't played a ton of that game, but what
I I put like a few hours into it, and
I did see the appeal. It was a very well
realized game.
Speaker 2: And also you see it all the time as Water
sixty four like suppost Sleepy Dogs, right.
Speaker 1: Sleepy Dogs, Sleepy sleepy Dogs. For me, I mean the
obvious franchise is the Saints Row franchise. The first two
games never did it for me. They felt like just
cheap knockoff GTAs that were trying too hard, like the writing,
like like the drive through wrestaurant called Freckle Bitches like
that doesn't even make sense, like, what is that supposed
to even mean? It's just said bitches because it's a
bad word. But by the time they got to three,
the series kind of started to find its identity. I
think four almost like it almost overcorrected and got a
little two into its nonsense. It was fun, but there's
something about three and what oh, there goes YouTube. What
really clicked for me with three was that mission or
you sky ive onto the rooftop party and it starts
playing power. That was That's why I was like, Okay,
this game knows what it is now, and you know,
you have this cast of characters now who are actually
becoming endearing. Their relationship is interesting. So yeah, I did
enjoy Saints Row the third.
Speaker 2: All right, so we're putting the third down there?
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's get it on the list for now.
Speaker 2: Okay, I got it? Why is it all the bigger bonds?
There we go, bro the third. Let me see, I'm
trying to make sure I got the right one here.
It would be the Simpsons Hid and Run. Is the
GTA clone? Right?
Speaker 1: Yes? That is the one, and that is a It's funny.
I feel like when that game first came out. Everyone's like,
this is fine, but I just got like this cult
following and everyone loves it. Now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't get that into it myself, but I
I hear people talk about it all the time. They
that's like not quite hidden gem necessarily because people definitely
are aware of this game, at least now they are.
But hear them talk about fondly in a way that
makes me think that this was probably the game that
a lot of people go when they were kids slash
teenagers when their parents wouldn't let them get GTA right.
Speaker 1: It's also again it's that emulation effect where if you
bought this for fifty bucks, you're probably mean, but you know,
when you just download and throw it on Dolphin, it's
a good time.
Speaker 2: That's true too. That's a good point. Yeah, So I
think Simpson's Hit and Run is a strong contender there.
Speaker 1: Okay, where do I want to go with this? Let's
go Okay, let's go with probably one of the more
fun sandboxes we've had in an open world. Again, the
series has had a lot of ups and downs. I
think it peaked with Just Cause two. That was the
one that was a game that my friends and I
played in like a couch multiplayer way, and purely what
we would just do is it was it was almost
like a game of horse, like be like, okay, let me,
let me show you what I could do, and you'd
like jump a jeep off a cliff and land on
a helicopter and fly that into a building. And you'd
be like, oh, okay, well fine, I'll do this. And
you'd get like a motorcycle and fly off an airplane
wing and onto another airplane. And we were just trying
to one up each other's stunts. Basically, it just it
was a very fun physics playground for that purpose. I
did enjoy just cause two quite a bit.
Speaker 2: So you would put two on the list, then I
think two is the one. Yeah, okay, gotcha, gotcha? Just
because two perfect?
Speaker 1: Uh, this is anomber one.
Speaker 2: I haven't played myself, by hear people talk fondly about it. Hey, dude,
you ever play Lego City Undercover?
Speaker 1: No? But I've also heard people say the same. I mean,
the problem was that on the WIU it had some
technical roughness, but there was bis a good game underneath
that surface. It's on switch. I don't know what the
switch versions like, but I never have played it, but
we can, we can throw it up. There's kind of
a family friendly option, but I actually have a better
I have a better entry, I think for the family friend.
I don't know if any of you guys have played this.
I've I haven't played it a lot myself, but there's
a game on Apple Arcade that my kids played to
death called Sneaky Sasquatch and it literally is it literally
is Grand Theft Auto for kids. You're just you're a
sasquatch and in the beginning of the game, you're just
trying to like, it's you're very it's very Yogi Bear.
You're just trying to like steal food from picnics and
the rangers trying to put you back in your little cave.
But eventually you get a disguise and now you could
go into the town and then you could take a
car or a bike, and you could get a job
and earn some money, and it just becomes GTA for kids.
It's a it's a really actually well done, well made game,
and it's got a ton of updates over the years.
Speaker 2: Two interesting. Yeah, I definitely haven't heard of this one before,
but it looks cute. Yeah, I was looking at I
don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it makes the mountain, but I
did want to bring it up because I again, I
think it's a cool game that probably not a lot
of core gamers know about. But if you have kids
and you want something for them that's like, let's express
the creativity of a GTA in a safe environment, that's
it's a good time.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm starting to run out on these, I'll be honest, AJ,
I'm trying to think of more. I think of like
what was like the Scarface game, like the movie.
Speaker 1: Game, and there was there was a Scarface movie tying
game that was kind of a GTA like.
Speaker 2: But even if that fits the bill, I'm not sure
to put on there because I'm not sure that's I would.
Speaker 1: I played a little bit of the Scarface game, but
what I played more of that I would put before it,
I think is the Guy Father game. They did that
like brought back some of the original cast even Oh
that was actually it was actually once you kind of
got over the goofiness of the premise that they were
like recreating one of the greatest films of all time
in an open world GTA game, and like you had
a lot of these actors now, you know, thirty years older,
trying to redo these lines. Yeah, once you got over that,
it was actually pretty solid. It was not bad. Okay.
Speaker 2: Do you do you think it's it has a chance
of making the list? Is a question?
Speaker 1: Probably not. I mean put it in. There is another
license game that kind of worked. I'm seeing people in
Chad say Mad Max, And that's another one. I think
like about a copy of it for five bucks years
ago and still haven't played it, but I know people
like that one.
Speaker 2: I also don't even know if I would consider Mad
Max a GTA clones.
Speaker 1: That wasn't sure, Okay.
Speaker 2: Like I I only played the first couple hours. I
was like, oh, yeah, this is fine whatever. But it
felt like an open world driving game more than it
felt like it GTA if nothing else, because it's the wasteland.
It's not like you're getting into uh you know, you know,
uh Shenanigans in the city.
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah. Do you do you mess with any of
the Watchdogs games?
Speaker 2: Now? I yeah, I did see Chad mention that. I
will say I loved Watchdogs too. I thought that was
a very fun game. Maybe I've never played too, I
played I ever played one interesting. Maybe I play a
little bit of too, I might play. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Two is the one I played. Was there, like, I
think it's one of that guys in this mission where
I was like on the second flour of a motel
and a shootout and I just couldn't beat it.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, you would know which one you played, because
the first one is just Aiden Pierce still like sad
dad character, and the second one is entirely the like
sort of like lead speed, like an old lady, and
then she has a attack and that's Legion.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay.
Speaker 2: Two is the one in the middle where it was
these like college kids who like way too in your
face with the memes and stuff like that, but they
had you know, they're charming. Definitely. I think there's some
interesting story beats too. I really like Watchdogs too, so
I'll I'll put it on the list of the Watchdogs too.
Speaker 1: I'll put it on there for now. Ellie Noir, I
guess would be uh. I would call that a GTA
like with a little more puzzle adventure game aspect to it,
But that's a game. I really like the first act
of Ellie and Noir, when you're solving the Black Dahlia
murder case. And then once that ended, where spoilers for
Ellie and Noir. First, it's like, oh, we can't arrest
this killer. He's a senator's son. So all that work
you just did was for nothing, and now we're going
to take you off Murder to put you on on Advice.
And I was like, that's not as exciting as murder,
and I immediately thought off the game. But I really
did enjoy that first act.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing about l A Noir though, that is
a rock Star joint.
Speaker 1: And so great, like they was it published by Rockstar
that they didn't make it right?
Speaker 2: Was it was published and I pulled up Wikipedia here
and make sure it like they had. They did have
development assistance from Roxtar. It was Team Bondie was the
main time, but they did get help from their publishing partner,
rock Stars. So I would say, I would say that
doesn't count.
Speaker 1: Okay, then yeah, you're right, strike it, strike it from
the list, Okay, out of here.
Speaker 2: But speaking of LA another one that chat was pointing
out that, yeah, I brain fired on, but I definitely
think deserves to be talked about here Brew crime. But
I don't know if you put La or New York.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever played either of these.
Speaker 2: Streets of New York. I'm pulling up some pictures here.
I think is the one that I played aid back
in the day. Yeah, I definitely remember that box art. Yeah,
I think that's the one people talk about more as well,
I think, and checking correct me if I'm wrong, But I.
Speaker 1: That's probably La, is it. I think that's New York.
Speaker 2: I don't know you would imagine, but yeah, and people
people can tell me which one they think they like better. Oh,
Streets of La. I do remember, like what I'm seeing
here too. I'll I'll just put true Crime on here,
and people can less know which one they think is
better between the truth, between the true, between the two.
Speaker 1: Okay, Iron Mike just remind me of one that boy,
I can't believe. I almost forgot about it because it's
actually this might be my front runner is Crackdown.
Speaker 2: I was wondering about that that that's not.
Speaker 1: Wrong where Oh yeah, you're running a city, you're driving
a car, you're shooting bad guys, are going on missions. Absolutely, Okay.
Speaker 2: I I only played a little bit of it, so
I just like the Superhero game more than.
Speaker 1: That devoured Crackdown. I loved that game absolutely, just the
fun of finding those orbs. I thought the missions actually
kind of fun they had. They had that kind of
almost Assassin's Creed element of like there's like these area
bosses and you have to get to each of them
however you see fit and yeah, that was good. I
like that.
Speaker 2: Like Crackdown, Okay, which one? Which one? The first one?
Speaker 1: The first one? Oh? Yeah? The rest are not great.
The first one though, was special?
Speaker 2: All right? Got it? Uh yeah, I am struggling to
think of any more major ones. Do you have anyone?
Speaker 1: See chat a few more out there? Do you do
you call shen MoU a g t A Like.
Speaker 2: First of all, it would be weird, like if we're
saying GT clone to call shenmu a g t A
clone considering like I know, yes g t A came first,
but like it.
Speaker 1: No, oh, I.
Speaker 2: Think that's its own thing. It's just like, yeah, I
think you're right. I saw a check kind of debating Yakuza, right, yeah,
And I think that's I think both of those are
sort of like in their own in their own little
order of gaming. It's separate from DJ just just because
kind of open world or open ended and you can
go around doing various things throughout a city like Dents
with people to talk to. I'm not sure that's what
makes a DTA clue as much as it being like
mission oriented oftentimes. Yeah, you are like driving around a
city stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Did we put We didn't even put.
Speaker 2: A Mafia game on here yet, even though we jo
about it around in the shadow.
Speaker 1: I was about it. I was trying to. I mean,
I know I played the first two, but boy, I
don't remember a lot about them. I just remember the
one mission where you had that like a car chase
start in the first game, so it's like, you know
those early nineteen teens cars and this really goofy like
accordion track started playing. That's my great memory of Mafia one.
Speaker 2: Right, I guess my problem is fondly right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if I don't know if they hang.
I mean that you could put you could put it
on the list, but I don't know if it makes.
Speaker 2: The Mountain, I'll put the Mafia on there just in case.
Speaker 1: I think. I think that's the sentiment. Is the two
is the one? That is it?
Speaker 2: The number two? Like Roman numeral too I think it's Roman.
Speaker 1: I think I think it's just a normal too, right,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: It's not sticking around it. It's up there for representation.
Speaker 1: All right. Do we have any any suggestions from the
discord or do we not get that up in time?
I don't we got that.
Speaker 3: We don't do suggesting.
Speaker 1: I couldn't remember.
Speaker 3: We used to do it and then we stopping. Okay, Yeah,
we used to do it and then we stop.
Speaker 2: Okay. I guess if Chad has any other ones that
they want to throw up, We're keep an eye on y'all.
Speaker 1: Speak now, hold your piece and if something speaks to me.
Red Faction Guerrilla is not bad Red Fact, it's but
as Red Faction really a GTA like.
Speaker 2: I don't from what I remember that, I would not
say so.
Speaker 1: No, And Spider Spider Man two again, I see the
argument for it, Mikey, but again it's not it's open world,
but it's not GTA. You know you're not you're not
driving around and doing crimes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh oh, here's a Narwan driver, Yeah, anomer one
that I didn't play as much as driver. I don't
think that really fits the billy either, does it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I didn't play a lot of it either.
Speaker 2: So that's more explicitly about the driving, is it not,
rather than like mission like on foot stuff.
Speaker 1: In addition, right, okay, oh no, yeah, Infamous falls in
that same category. Spider Man, it's it's more of an
open world superhero game a GT And I know, I
know Crackdown toes that line, but I think Crackdown is
more of a superhero g t A game.
Speaker 2: That's what I thought Crackdown was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot a lot of people saying cyberpunk again,
that doesn't that doesn't Punk rides a line, I think
a little bit. I see the argument for it again,
but I don't think it's in quite the same spirit either.
I don't. It's it's like porn. I know when I
see it. What can I say?
Speaker 2: Diiberpunk is in fact like porn. I can say that
much with Damn too, But it is so much like
I think some people don't want to see it this way.
Ciberpunk is so much of an RPG that I don't
think it's quite while we're looking for.
Speaker 1: There's too much RPG. G t A is not an RPG.
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, I think that's all the major ones. And yeah,
I can't say one we're not doing. We're not doing
any rock Star ones, so we're not doing a Bully
or Red Dead.
Speaker 1: All right. I think we gotta I think we gotta
will of.
Speaker 2: This down to Okay. Do you see any locks anyones
that immediately say like this is the like one of
those that people talk about.
Speaker 1: I think when you think g T a clone, I
think you think Saints Bro. I think that's for me
the first thing that enters in my head. So anyway,
I think and ironic, given the plot of the fourth game,
I think it is the George Washington basically.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not trying to say it's Washington because I
think there at least I can see one that I
think came before it that I think sort of set
the stage for some of this stuff. But I definitely
think I can see it, yeah, up there with the
other dast Jefferson.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The one that I think would be more of the
Washington would be Simpsons in Run. I think that is
one that, like I mentioned earlier, people remember fondly from
their childhoods because they couldn't play GTA. I think it
holds up from what I've played. It's still like pretty
fun Dankey because like you know, a PS two game
and people were still like figuring some stuff out in
those earlier days of three dep I think that one's
still fun. I think Simpsons makes the list, but maybe
we can talk about it more.
Speaker 1: I think Simpsons is up there too. I thought, Okay,
that's on Remembrance and people like that game. I think
I think for me, I really kind of want to
get cracked Down on there. That again, that that was
just the most fun world to move around in and
explore and play like. It was the most fun to play.
You know, it wasn't as much of like the kind
of immersive sim aspect of it. It had all that,
you know, they had traffic and pedestrians and stuff to do,
but just getting around the city actually playing the game,
that was a lot of fun in that game.
Speaker 2: Okay. And again this one, this one is a blind
spot form because I didn't really play Crackdown, but it is.
It is in that vein of like driving around Mission
Orienta and stuff. You just also have Superpurea powers.
Speaker 1: You just jump really really high.
Speaker 2: Okay, which also Saints Throw would have as well, So
I guess I can see the argument there. Okay, all right,
So let's say we do put Crackdown on as well.
Then what is number four?
Speaker 1: I think, and I don't mean to dominate the list here,
I think the one that's probably the best game, and
I think I see this sentiment in chat, I think
it goes to Sleepy Dogs. Ah.
Speaker 2: Nice, See I put that one on there, So I'm
not necessarily gonna argue at that point, because I I
do think Sleeping Dogs is the one that is sort
of seen as the hidden gem out of a lot
of these Watchdogs two as well, but I think people
also recognize the flaws and Watchdogs too, whereas Sleeping Dogs
is just a damn good game that I think got
massively overlooked because it's not called GTA. But see, it's interesting.
Do you know the history of this where it was
originally supposed to be a true crime game?
Speaker 1: Yeah, true crime Trees of Hong Kong, Yeah, Hong Kong.
I was about to say Shanghaan, wrong Disneyland.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I was thinking about Streets of La because
of how fondly people talk about Sleeping Dogs technically does
carry that lineage. So if we put that one on there,
I'm gonna be happy. You nominated, So I think you
would be happy with this one. So Sleeping Dogs and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, so that that brings us to the
Mount Rushmore GTA Clones is Sleeping Dogs, Saints throw the
third Simpson's hit and Run and crack Down. I am,
I'm pretty happy with that, how about you? I think
that looks right.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the ones that we left off, like
Mafia Just Cause, Watchdogs and True Crime. I'm thinking I
think we got the representatives that are a combination of
more fondly remembered and like the best games that we
can put out there. And you know what, aj, I
think that makes for a good Mount Rushmore. And I
think I think we did it. I think we've made
a better Mount Rushmore than those two jerks ever could of.
Speaker 1: No, they would't even gotten close to this. I'm close.
Speaker 2: All right. Well, I'm sure we'll hear in the comments.
I'm sure we'll read in the chat if we got wrong.
But I think that is I.
Speaker 1: Think I think this is the week where everyone's gonna angry.
Everyone is gonna be like good List.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna have like the Jack two super fans,
Come on, say why did you play?
Speaker 1: I got again, I played Jack too. I don't remember
much about Jackson. I didn't realize like, so okay, I
like Jack too.
Speaker 2: I wish it wasn't a g t A like I
wish Dotty Dog hadn't play g t A three right
before making that game.
Speaker 1: All right, car right, let's take one more quick break.
We come back, we'll talk about what we've been playing,
get to the last of the super chats, and then
we will get the heck out of here, good and
we are to the show. Sean, have you been playing
this week?
Speaker 2: I have been playing. I mentioned most of what I've
been playing over Runnon ten Dogs. I will repeat myself
too much, but yeah, a combo breaker is at the
end of the month, and I want to get better
in the only game I'm playing will be Street Fi
six there, so I've been playing more Street Fi six
getting ready. I find my very fun. I'm just trying to,
you know, reteach myself the game there, get back and
swing of things, and then of course get better with
the new character that I'm playing. Checked out the Soccer
Awards two fan translation that people put out that old
Sega Saturn game. I loved the first game. I love
that fan translation. I'm super happy that now two gouts
fan translation it's steam Deck game, but what kind of
replaced it? So maybe I'll get back to it, Like, hey,
maybe I get back to that once I get a
mister of some variety. It may hook you up to
the CRT back there, because the steam Deck game I
am playing now mostly is one hundred line Last Defense Academy.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's just.
Speaker 2: In the past couple of nights I got didn't further
in the story, and like I I can't say too much.
But again, the way they're talking about like what's what's real?
What isn't? Like how is this person you know? And
their relationship with us is can we trust them? There's
a lot of the the Zero Escapes series in here
in addition to all the Dongan Rampa, and so I
think I think it's it's going places.
Speaker 1: I'm very excited.
Speaker 2: But I've seen like people drop little hints of what's
to come on Blue Sky that I'm very excited to
see where it goes next. But it's also just a
fun strategy game. So rand steam Deck, I'm sure it's
Grand Switch as well. What about you ha.
Speaker 1: I've added the demos to my library. Ill. Yeah, I
mentioned still playing Clear Obscurity Expedition thirty three. Just absolutely
love of that game. What I like about it is
for turn based arpagy. I did one of the fights
where it's it's one of those really tall things. This
one had two other monsters with it, and it's like, it's, yes,
I had to figure out the strategy of like what
I wanted to attack these things in and fear out
their weaknesses. But then there was also that component of
like I need to learn how to read its attacks
so I know when to dodge and when to perry,
and like I want to parry these I don't know.
I took some hits. I'm low on health. I'd better
dodge to be safe now, even though I'm missing out
on damage. And it took a few tries, but then
when I did beat it, it felt incredible. So it's
it's really stunning. How I mean, we've had, you know,
active hits since Super Mario RPG, but they they just
feel so much more I don't know, satisfying, I guess
in this game, and in a way they know it
feels beyond just timing a hit. It feels like more
active than that, and yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it also is more active in the
sense of like dodging, parrying and doing the others that
they give you. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like I mentioned I I think that game is fantastic.
I did finish it last week, and I think the
story is one of those where I really want more
people fantis I can talk about the ending and where
the story goes in the final act and everything, but yeah,
the combat is so satisfying, especially once you start getting
the big damage, once you start getting the multi hits
and everything like that. It can it can be a
fun little puzzle for that you like put on yourself
and then solve to figure out how to get through
these combat scenarios quickly, which is also something they like
in Persona, which, because they like Persona, the devs obviously
put a lot of that in here as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh Star Wars Day. It was a Sunday. I
always like to celebrate it as best I can. So
I did two things first in Monster Hunter postly is
my Blue Sky if you want to go check it out.
I found I copied it from Reddit. I had to
make some modifications, but I made both an X wing
fighter suit for my Hunter and Jedi robes that I
thought looked pretty good. Act that was fun. I didn't
have the right boots because that guy bought the DLC
and I wasn't gonna pay eight bucks for boots for
my X Wing jumpsuits. So I found differ boots good boots.
But then I also did fire Up. You guys talked
about it on the show. I think they talked about
a couple weeks ago was Star Wars Starfighter. This was
originally released for the Xbox. Did get a port to
PS two and PC, and uh, I have it on Steam,
which is good because I don't know if it's if
it didn't have proper joystick support or game pad support
back in two thousand and three or whatever. But fortunately
there's a community binding in the in Steam to get
the controls working and making sense in a good way.
So I played through the first few missions of that
and that game. There was something about the UI of
that game. It was very It had a glow to
it that was very cool at the time. It still
looks really good now. Oh, I see what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah,
And I just I you know, obviously, the Rogue Squadron
games are aren't great, and this was kind of cut
from that same cloth, but still stood out as something
unique in its own and I think it's funny, especially
with the announcement of what's the Respawn games theme that
that the Tactics game. I got the title of it.
Speaker 2: Oh right, Uh, it's something that's kind of like x
comm if you squeeze it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember, though, I think we're inning this weird
period now where we're gonna start having prequel nostalgia, so
like between that game being set in the prequels and
this game being so I was like, yeah, you know what,
let's let's go back to that era a little bit
and have some fun Zero Squad zero zero Company because
z coom oh there you go, that's zero coming. So yeah, yeah,
Jedi Starfighter is the better game that never got a
PC port, though I do have it on my on
my PlayStation. When when they did that re release, that
game rules. I love Jedi Starfighter. I did. It was funny.
I I bought Bounty Hunter the rerelease they did that
because it was on sale. I didn't I didn't get
around to firing up that night, and then the next
day I saw the Humble Bundle for the month of May,
and Bounty Hunter was in it. So I was like, Oh,
I'm going to rerun that ten dollars and just wait
till my humble Bumble renow goes through so I can
get that code, so I'll get to Bounty Hunter later
this month. It's funny, I don't remember playing much of
Bounty Hunter, so I'm kind of excited to actually play
it because I remember at the time everyone thought it
was just okay, But there's there's this huge wave of
nostalgia for when they did that re release, so I'll
check it out. I think you're right.
Speaker 2: I think there's definitely nostalgia for the Prequels in general
right now, not just because there's maybe a little bit
of redemption of that era through other media, but I
think because like people my age are now nostalgic for
that period, regardless of if you liked the Prequels or not. So,
you know, and people my age, you know, in our
like late twenties early thirties, are starting to be a
demographic that they're trying to target because you know, this
generation is starting to have kids and they're getting their
kids into Star Wars, and so they might try to
get their kids into like some of the prequel stuff again,
regardless of like what aspect, because of whether or not
they liked it. But I think you're out of something.
Speaker 1: So so fun story about Star Wars day and getting
your kids into it. So my kids have never they've
been around Star Wars. Obviously they live with me, but
they've never actually have have sat through a Star Wars
movie front to back yet. So I told I told them,
I said, guys, you know, for Star Wars this year,
I don't have to work that day. I'm going to
be home. I am going to watch a new Hope
and Empire strikes back. Whoever wants to join me is
more than welcome. I just asked that, you know, we
actually sit and watch it if you're in the room.
And my daughter Sophia was all about it. She was like, yeah,
I want to watch these with you. And she, you know,
was super into the movies. You know, we're going through
the you know, the Trench run, you know, Han Solo
shows up, she cheered. I was like, this is great.
And we start Empire and I'm thinking myself, like, wow,
I don't think she knows that Darth Vader is his father.
I don't think that's just ever caught before. Yeah, they
just know, so we can't believe.
Speaker 2: How dare you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we get to that scene, so I started on
the slide, kind of just started recording, and I got
her reaction to it. I mean, she'd like scream and
freak out, but she like visibly reacted to the reveal
and it was super cute. I was very excited. So
so we finished that and she asked to watch the
next one. I said, Okay, Sophia, we have to take
a very important choice. We can we can we can
go on to you know, episode six, Return of the Jedi,
and then go and release order and go back to
the prequels and the sequels, I said, or we could
do the Machete Order. When she's like, what's that, it's like, well,
we for a little while, we pretend like episode one
doesn't exist. We go back to upso two and three,
and then jump forward to six, and we kind of
get this like in between this happened before to give
some context. And I don't know if you're familiar with
the Machete Order, but when you think about it and
that and going four, five, two, three, six, it makes
a lot of sense because you obviously by the time
you get Tupster to you, you know Vaders's dad, So
that's not like a shock anymore. You've met Yoda, You've
had that surprise happen, so you don't like, you know,
if you were to watch an episode order finding Yoda
in the swampadego, but wouldn't be a surprise. You know,
Oh that's Yoda. Like it's not like, who's this warrior
he's looking for and who's this weird little green frog.
So you still maintain that surprise. You move the reveal
of them being siblings, Luke and Leah to episode three,
and you like when when they say she's having twins
and she's like, wait a minute, who's the other twin?
Then she says Leah for the name, and then you
go aha, So you have that moment. So it's a
cool way of watching the movies if you've never seen it.
I just never had anyone to do it with. So
so she's gonna do that. So Friday night we're watching
Attack of the Clones and then uh, we'll try to
get through through the rest and then uh and then
pick up from there.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I but yeah, that that sounds like cool
way to do it when you frame it that way,
like the because like you said, you get the surprises,
and then once you are aware of that, you treat
our things sort of like a flashback, you like filling
the gaps, and then you get two six. That's interesting. Yeah,
I never thought of doing it that one.
Speaker 1: And the reason you could skip episode one is because
when you really think of about it, nothing too consequential
happens the episode. That's why you just don't watch that,
because I mean, by the time you get from one
to two, Anakin is much older, a different actor. He's
essentially a brand new character. You know, you lose the
context of Qui Gone. Maybe you don't quite get the
relationship between an padme at the beginning, but you figure
it out pretty quickly. You don't quite know who jar
Jar is, that's fine. The biggest thing you don't know
is like they talk about Qui Gon episode three, and
you don't know what they're talking about. But whatever, And
then when you're done you go back and watch it
as like a fun little curiosity. I guess, so we're
gonna do that. She's excited.
Speaker 2: Cool, all right, A Jay, I think I got one
more super sad for us here. All right, let's do
it from Baba's me. Yes, I see what was happening
here now they said you missed mine. Brub looks young
and Mike looks smarter than usual, is what I wrote it.
And yes, that night that guy garbled up while while
I was having some issues with the streams. So thank
you Bob as me, thank you for submitting again. Appreciate that.
And I think that gets us caught up. So AJ
would like to get out here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's about that time, eh.
Speaker 2: All right, I'll roll the music for the people at home.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't hear it, so you start shouting when
it gets loud, but I'll start doing the outro. Thank
you for listening the game mess. Besides, everybody, like we said,
you can subscribe to the show on the podcast service
with your choice, join the Patreon, support the boys. They'll
they'll be back next week in full force. In the meantime,
if you are going to packs East, Jeff, like we said,
is in Boston. He is at PAS. I don't even
know what they're doing. I know they have a panel
still on the schedule that they were committed to that.
Speaker 2: Whatever was going to be the Black Club panel. They're
still doing something in that time slot, so I like
Jeff's on Tuesday. Still go to that panel though. They're
gonna figure something out to do for y'all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if, if, if you're there, definitely make sure you
go check it out. Say hi to to Jeff and
Dan and I'm I'm sure they'll find some kind of
shinnan against to get into. Those two are wacky. That's
what everyone likes them right right. And yeah, Sean, where
can people find you on the internet? Blue Sky?
Speaker 2: I am Turboshaan dot com Shawn and hey, I'm streaming
again over on twitch, Twitch dot tv slash Turbo Sean
and I've been having fun time doing that. I've been
playing through my favorite game, Megan Man Legends. This is
my first stream game back. I've been chitchen with the folks.
There's been a lot going on recently, so people have
some questions and want to express a variety of things
to me, so we just chitchat while I play again
I'm very familiar with. That's been a lot of fun.
I got roped into doing Dave Sean Remastered sometime in
the next couple of weeks, so We're going to fire
that up. Look forward to pat to everyone. Yeah, and
then VODs go up on YouTube which is at Turble
Sean as well. But how about you aging?
Speaker 1: I am at age guy on Blue Sky. You can
follow us on nineties Disney our Disney podcast I do
with Mike and our brother Chris. Like I said, when
they get back from their trip this weekend, we'll do
a bonus episode next week talk about their whole trip.
They're also going to Epic Universe tomorrow, so we'll get
to hear more about that, and then we have our
next episode that I'm doing on about the Society of
Explorers and Adventurers.
Speaker 2: Design of Explorers Adventures.
Speaker 1: Awesome. Thanks everyone for tuning in. We'll catch you next time. Bye. Hi. Question,
I can't see anything. How am I supposed to fight
Becker solution?
Speaker 3: All right, we are on a break.
Speaker 1: We're breaking.
Speaker 2: I can get the super chest up. Let me see
you all right?
Speaker 1: Thank you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, doing good job hosting a j I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3: Let me make sure that serving the peace.
Speaker 2: Let me see if I'm missing any from my YouTube
check because it's been known to drop lately, and I
do think I am maybe.
Speaker 3: People talking shit out of Arsenal I in come chat.
I allowed it, all right, fighting words in Argentina.
Speaker 1: So oh no, I don't see. Okay, hang on, I forget,
I forget who threw the message earlier. But yes, Tottenham,
you can have that one. You're welcome. You guys didn't
need it to get in Champions contention, so you know
we're Liverpool just being generous victors last week.
Speaker 5: All right, okay, so first one I have is from
al Greg but the first one let me check.
Speaker 2: Okay, so Stree moments is behind. I think I I'm
all on YouTube. I think we'll still be Yeah, okay,
I think we're good.
Speaker 3: Then, I think we're good, should be all right, all right,
gonna bring it back in.
Speaker 1: We're ready, Christian, we are ready. All right, I'm gonna
go old score your betty, get ready, buckle up? Right?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah sure, hanging there chat. Oh yeah, we
got a little little if in chat, so don't worry
about it. We're gonna we're gonna solve.
Speaker 1: It, all right.
Speaker 2: Hang on, I'm gonna I'm gonna try restarting the stream. Really,
can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Stuff that doesn't need it suck up.
Speaker 3: Okay, one suck this is this is it's weird. This
is beautiful people, It's why we're streaming from Mars. It's
like that type of delay. You know, I have watched
The Martian The Martians is pretty good.
Speaker 1: How immence was that? Like twelve minutes round trip? Yeah? Okay,
things seem better.
Speaker 3: Now we just need to modify this a little, all right, delay.
Speaker 1: One two three, one two three half. I'm gonna stop
talking and then you immediately start talking.
Speaker 3: Now now, now, oh that's rough.
Speaker 1: Prison. What'd you change the server to.
Speaker 3: US Central?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: One second, I can change it to Hong Kong.
Speaker 1: Don't do that. What were on before the US East?
Put it back on the sea of that.
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: All right? Now when I start talking, when I say
one two three, now you respond at one two three
now now noway, that's better.
Speaker 2: That's better. Okay, okay, I can go back there. I
can go back in the video version for this one.
This is a mess. Sorry everyone, Thanks for thanks for
sticking with us here.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I would like to have the the you know, the
right stuff there and then we're humans and stuff. But
this is content people, this is yeah, all right, just
bring it back.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Anyways, uh break through, it gives me break.
Speaker 3: Well, stuff is breaking, that's right, oh man, yeah the
latest crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I was getting worried when it seemed like
Discord was getting more and more delayed on my end.
So I don't know what's happening as far as I
can tell my Aarnet's fine, but I guess not if
both Discord and YouTube were hanging issues. So yeah, maybe
like turn off your camera for us. We don't need
it to be honest, but I don't think I think
something that's all should be a problem. I guess I could, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there we know. I mean your your your camera
was very out. It seem very like framing or then yeah,
well no it wasn't fla was of seeing you're just
out of think okay, got it? Yeah over here, man,
I'm just we can just do this Persia parishion. We
do this portion of the show audio only. Mhm.
Speaker 2: Just side down to stream at the age of you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have if you have the link to the
to the duck, which.
Speaker 1: That's a good point because Google dock.
Speaker 3: Here updates in real time.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see share.
Speaker 3: May Sean turn off his camera.
Speaker 1: Yeah, watch fifties on my moggin.
Speaker 3: Helly Discord, I don't know what's the deal with discord is?
Speaker 1: Uh so sorry we missed, we missed your super chat.
We will we will get to it. Which one do
we miss.
Speaker 3: Is?
Speaker 2: I think that came in afterwards. That's why we'll grant
that later. Uh here a j I have put a
link to the dock in the in the chat room
for this channel the way. I don't to scream it
too side chat. Yeah, let's see it and then let's
capture this window.
Speaker 3: I played so much art Raiders during the weekend that
was crazy.
Speaker 1: I didn't get in. I tried, I signed up, didn't
get in.
Speaker 3: Oh, you should have said something with goes like if
your friend is in, people can bite you and my
friend I don't.
Speaker 1: The only chance I might have had to play would
have been Sunday night. But by the time Sunday night
rolled around, I was beat. Like I said, we had
big commencement at work, so that meant a twelve hour
day Friday and Saturday. Thank god it's Sunday off because
instead of doing three or usually they would do six
commencements three and three on Saturday and Sunday, but they
condensed the four one on Friday three on Saturday, so
I wasn't as busy as they've been in the past,
but still a long weekend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let's see age. Are you in here?
Speaker 1: Is that? I see not rushmore GTA clones and the
text got bigger.
Speaker 2: Perfect, Okay, let me see you change the scene there,
and I think we're when.
Speaker 3: You are, we're cooking we gas now people, let's go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the answerre cute. Oh. I was waiting for Christian
to say like something about starting, but that's okay, all right,
here we go right through. What do you I'm ready
to go right into it. If you guys are we're ready?
Speaker 2: Change scene real quick, I'll put it on that switch
to this tab and yeah, I'm good when you are?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: Right, all right, let's go bring it back at you.
Speaker 2: Let's see up next. I think, uh, hang on, hang on,
YouTube is being funky. I think we might be uh
was insane a little bit here. Let me see if
it stabilizes a.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I was about the crash. I had
a different positive video. Yeah, I might just lowder the
bit right.
Speaker 2: It seems like it's lagging.
Speaker 1: Suck. Yeah, we're getting chat saying we got we got
stream lag.
Speaker 2: Oh no, all right, all right, let me drop everybody. Okay, yeah,
we dropped some frames there.
Speaker 1: The bit, No pick them up.
Speaker 2: Hang on, you'll hang out. We're working out.
Speaker 3: We're working all right, everybody, chill.
Speaker 2: Buckle up, buckle up.
Speaker 3: I thought about that my discord. The lay is crazy.
I don't know.
Speaker 2: Let me see. I think it should be better. Good now,
good now, okay cool. I think I think YouTube might
be a lot unstable tonight because I think my air
now was fine. But anyways, okay, uh from input video here, Sean,
Now is your chance to talk about how Blueprints is
bad before the Boomer House return. Look, I don't think
it's bad. I just it's not for me. It's not
my kind of puzzle game, you know, like aj have
you been playing Blueprints at all? Ope?
Speaker 1: Sean's not talking to me because my Twitter, my discorch froze.
We do a good podcast.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like now yeah, I don't know my discirls. Also,
I have in troubles. You know what I'm gonna do.
I can't hear you? Can you hear me?
Speaker 2: What are you talking to?
Speaker 3: Christian I'm talking to I was talking to a J.
I don't know if you can hear me. I can't
hear you, and I can hear a J. I don't
know if you.
Speaker 1: No, I don't hear anybody.
Speaker 3: Oh no, change the server.
Speaker 1: Everything worked