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Tune in for some naughty and nice sports talk this
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Here's Jacob Hester and t bab A Bear.
Speaker 4: Was that? And y'all we're going back down number two
about TV talk a lot of playoffs there, nour.
Speaker 5: Number one gonna talk some partle here a hour.
Speaker 4: Too, as well as as Jake was talking about kind
of maybe We're your coach is the biggest game plan
advantages going in uh to hour two.
Speaker 5: We got some l U basketball over the weekend. It's
a portal.
Speaker 4: Combat get to as well Saints Packers tonight. Also hell yeah,
look I mean fired up. No, no, we're fired up. No, no,
we're fired up. Okay, fired up? Well, pray tell Jordan
go take it off in Well.
Speaker 6: Look, I'm the reason why ill fired up. The spread
line is disrespectful. What is the points?
Speaker 5: Fourteen and a half?
Speaker 6: Fourteen and a half is respectful? Is disrespectful?
Speaker 4: It's do you know that Toyota than is going on? Well,
look you probably haven't seen this stat, have you?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 5: What's this that?
Speaker 4: So this is a good find by Taylor, Yes, Jordan
love when it is not. Toyota Thon has a touchdown
to pick ratio of twenty eight to twenty five. Okay, now,
fortunately for us because of the great deals that all
start Toyota, but unfortunately for the Saints during Toyota Thon, Yes,
he's down twenty five touches to two picks. Holy moly,
I know, I know anyway, So I don't know, it's
just spread too much.
Speaker 6: So you think there spread is disrespect I think it's
a little disrespectful, Like there's still professionals.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, I'm gonna I'm gonna
come in a little bit as a as a non
Saints fan here, I can understand that fourteen points is
a lot. Saints haven't done anything to deserve a respectful.
Speaker 5: Line and well blown out byway.
Speaker 2: You might have got a rookie quarterback coming in. Yeah,
you don't have Alvin Kamara, you don't have Chris Olave,
you don't have Rashi Ji Heat, and you have some
injuries on the defensive side. And the Packers right now
on the flip side are probably as healthy as they've
been and it's in the cold up there at lambeau Field.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't hate them.
Speaker 4: So the only part I disagree with is you haven't
had a lave Ish Heat forever. So I don't think
you're off not having ak and starting Spencer Rattler. Yes,
of course, like I I, I don't actually think the
line is disrespectful. I would love for the Saints to
prove wrong. I don't think I think I'm with you, though, too.
I understand how you got there. Let's be clear, this
is all about Kendre Miller. Okay, you gotta do some
and you had a good end of the game against
a commander's defense that has got awful against the run
for whatever reason.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 4: But like for Kendre Miller, you've been given the excuse of,
oh it was Dennis Allen. Oh it was Dennis Allen. Okay,
Well with Rizzy you got a clean slate and now
they k be hurt. No, Taysom Hill, you're the guy. Yep,
you are the only guy. I mean, you're you're the
only No. I'm just thinking about draft picks. You're the
only guy with a top three draft pick invested in you.
That's a weapon, right, I mean, none of the tight ends,
none of the receivers. You're a third round pick, which
shows you just how badly the roster has gone through
injury and other other things. But like you're the only
one with any level of investment, and you've been sitting
here and saying it was Dennis Allen's fault. Okay, go
prove it, because this thing's a line does run block
pretty well. Yeah, and Kubiak schemes up a good rushing attack,
so you're gonna get opportunity.
Speaker 5: Krendre Miller, go prove it.
Speaker 4: I mean, Jake, you're your former NFL running back, What
would your mindset be if you were Kendre Miller entering
this game.
Speaker 9: I'd be fired up because, like it's me. Ain't nobody
else really behind me?
Speaker 5: Like it's going to be me.
Speaker 9: I'm going to get for the first time. I'm gonna
get twenty plus carries. I'm gonna get a chance to show, hey,
I can get better as the game goes along, I
can be the workhorse out here. So no, I mean
he should be excited about the opportunity it's going to be.
Speaker 5: I would assume the weather's not going to be great
in Green Bay, right, it's gonna be cold, it's gonna.
Speaker 1: Be actually slight chance of snow.
Speaker 9: It's gonna be the yeah, Right, So that means even
more carries for me. If I'm here, Miller like, I
would be very excited for this opportunity to show whoever
comes in as the head coach that hey, I can
be a reliable number two right behind Ak and I
can get touches. I mean, a lot of teams in
the NFL, no matter who you are at second running
back gets a lot of opportunity. So if he's not
excited for this one, he never gonna get excited.
Speaker 4: No, and and and and if you can't find success,
and then then we have no reason to be excited
for you in the future going forward either, Like, as
the Saints are desperately looking for any positive piece to
cling on to, uh, as we sit here a drift
in a freezing cold Atlantic, maybe Kendre Miller can beat
one of those pieces. After the Falcons decide to not
only bench Kirk Cousins, but now reports are they're planning
on cutting him yep, after the year. Do you all
think this will spur these Saints into action on Derek
Carr's on how.
Speaker 2: They feel about Spencer Ratler. I think the performance for
him in the next three games decides to Derek Carr's future.
I mean, let's say he goes out there, he didn't
even have to win the games. Let's say he goes
out there sixty two percent completion, couple touchdowns, no picks
in the next three games, Like, yeah.
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 2: But if he goes out there and struggles, I mean,
how desirable is that job even without Derek Carr to
an incoming head coach?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I thought Hunt had a good segment
the other day, though, where he was basically looking at. Okay,
but let's look at all the jobs that are available
and what is desirable for an incoming head coach. Like,
obviously the Bengals would be a one, right, And have
they announced are they going to make a move or not?
Speaker 9: I mean, I imagine they have to. They have not
because they're still technically in the playoff.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe they won't, but if they do, that's one
of those jobs. It's like when Harball got the charges, right,
It's so rare that a job opened up with a
legitimate franchise quarterback. So that's obviously going to be a one.
But like everywhere else, you look what is good?
Speaker 5: Bears? I mean maybe the Bears. You got Kaylin Williams,
you got.
Speaker 4: A good defense ownership, but the Bears or but even then,
the Bear has been very dysfunctional. But I'd agree that
the Bears would be slightly better than that.
Speaker 5: I'm saying, I don't believe no Jets a toxic, horrible, awful.
Speaker 4: Sitting there listen to his Madden plain sons over his
in professional executive Peterson.
Speaker 5: If he gets fired, Jags wouldn't be that bad of
a job either.
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess why is it better than the
Saints though, I mean, is Trevor Lawrence good or overpaid?
Speaker 2: So that that's the thing, right Like you could say, oh, well,
Derek Carr's contract, Trevor Lawrence's contract is not looking good
right now, when it's they have young talent they got
they got Travis Et and they got Brian Thomas junior.
Speaker 1: They got some defensive piece.
Speaker 2: So maybe age wise, that might be a better job
around it. But quarterback wise, you're kind of in the
same boat.
Speaker 4: And they'll have a top pick this year. I have
a top pick, top five. Maybe, well anyway, we'll see.
So Jordan, you think that you think that the Saints
are I mean, are you saying money line here?
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, no, no, I say cover the spread. No, no, no.
Speaker 6: I do not think the Saints are gonna win this game.
But I think fourteen points is a little disrespectful. That's
all I'm saying. I'm not coming out here being like
spit is gonna show the world the Saints are gonna
upset the Packers.
Speaker 5: But I think no, I think it'll be closer than
I mean fourteen.
Speaker 4: In the league where almost every game seems to always
come down. Yeah, the last couple of possessions is always
going to be inherently disrespectful, regardless of it.
Speaker 6: I get the circumstances, yes, but I also didn't seeing
teams you think you're supposed to blow somebody out, just
come out. I don't watch Rice some play spoiler the
last couple of weeks, a lot of teams.
Speaker 4: So the Panthers are the best team in the NFL.
So the best bad team. They are three and nine
Cornhuskers that like lost to everybody by like three. Yeah,
maybe said they were the best three win team of
all time. How many wins do the Panthers have right now? Yeah,
but I think they're like six and one against the
spread the last seven weeks or something like the inspects
of the money, Like that's the best four win team.
Speaker 5: It's I'm actually, I'm actually.
Speaker 9: I'm a little happy for Bryce young I am is
maybe he's so tiny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes you started to feel so bad for him
out there, But like, I'm happy.
Speaker 5: For great and a great guy, a great young man.
Speaker 9: Had chance to interview him a couple of times, and
he was getting all the strays a year ago, and
now he's fighting back, And I mean he got like,
you know, Adam Thielen out there still playing at an
incredibly high level, and so like he's got some weapons,
but you know, not like some other people have around them.
But he's still playing really well, and it looked like
he was. We were talking about who were they going
to draft a quarterback this year? Well, I think now
that's a different conversation. I think they're right now set
to pick seventh, and so they've completely turned around kind
of what the narrative was around them. Look, there's still
a four win team, but to your point, respectable a
lot of one score losses. I think the Jags as well.
I think the Jags have seven or eight one score losses.
It's the most in the NFL outside of the Bengals.
I think Macoons is done.
Speaker 2: To like Jones hadn't been that bad in Trevor Lawrence's absence,
Like it hadn't been a huge He's.
Speaker 9: Like, hey, I'm gonna just find Brian Thomas.
Speaker 2: Yesterday, I mean we were talking about it earlier, like
how good of a young talent he is, Like yesterday,
that offense is struggling.
Speaker 1: They're struggling. They're struggling.
Speaker 2: What does mac Jones do sixty two yard touchdown pass
to Brian Thomas. That could it to about a five
point lead. Now they they lost by five. They couldn't
do anything after that. But he's done a really good
job of finding his weapons.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Why why did the Browns bench Jamis again?
Speaker 1: Because he throws too many interceptions?
Speaker 5: Okay, but at least he scores. He was sure.
Speaker 4: They didn't bench him because they're trying to tank.
Speaker 2: Maybe, but like, I think I think they're grasping at
strolls here. I think they're they're so.
Speaker 5: So gives you a better chance of DTR was terrible.
Speaker 2: I think they're so self conscious about missing so badly
on DeShawn Watson that they're like, we're gonna try these
backups and hope one of them hits. That way we
can save a little bit of face. I think they're
just grasping at strolls here, throwing whatever they can.
Speaker 6: GTR nine points. DTR was ultimate stadium pulse. I was like, dude,
what are you throwing? He's throwing across his body. He's
doing all this bigger stadium pulse. Kevin Jennings or DTR. Yeah,
Kevin Jennings, you have all white on. You can see
the poop stains on the back of his pants the
first half picks where that was it? You should have
wore blue pants. It was not a good sight.
Speaker 5: So, uh, Taylor, your cowboys beating up on Baker? What
what I mean? How do you feel? We get told? Uh?
Speaker 2: I told Jordan before the show. I was like, in
typical cowboys fashion. So after the three o'clock window of games,
Washington wins, Dallas was officially eliminated from playoff consideration.
Speaker 1: So what does their defense.
Speaker 5: Do coming into the year.
Speaker 2: But he's like, this is the top five defense and
they've been terrible. They played like a top five defense
last night, and I'm like, wait to go, guys, Like,
I don't know to be happy or sad, Like it
looks like they may bring McCarthy back.
Speaker 1: You gotta win over good team.
Speaker 2: But like you waited till the playoff elimination to play
like this, Like why Cooper Rush plays the game of
his life last night? Two thirty two touchdowns, no turnovers?
But where was this at? Where was this at the
first ten weeks of the season? Too little, too late?
Speaker 5: Now, yeah, bruh.
Speaker 4: How did Jayden Daniels, How do they manage to win
that game because he's a goat five touchdowns.
Speaker 9: Man, five touchdowns against arguably one of the best teams
in the NFL. I mean, they're in the top three
discussion probably of that conversation. And man, he's just he
is so special. His processing is elite. Then you you
pair that with his capability slipper like just like typically
if you're like an e leap processor, you don't have
elite skills. Yeah, as well, like that that is a
combination that is scary, and that's you know, that's how
you're in every game. Like he's going to have the
opportunity to bring you back in every game. And look,
a lot of us here got clown because we said
Jaden Daniels is the best quarterback in this draft, and
man caught some bullets from a lot of people saying
like he shouldn't even be a first rounder.
Speaker 5: It's like, what are y'all watching?
Speaker 1: How wins do they have?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 1: If nine wins?
Speaker 5: Ten? Okay, Okay, so they've they've.
Speaker 2: They've they've more than doubled the Chicago Bearers with all
the weapons they.
Speaker 9: Have, right, and he's got Keenan Allen and Dj Moore
and DeAndre Swift, Saromadonza and going to Matt.
Speaker 1: Don't want to pile on a young player.
Speaker 2: You go watch those games and not just look at
the box score first half Caleb Williams and second half
when the game's already over, completely different players.
Speaker 9: Well, just his style of play is very tough to
be successful in the NFL. We've only really seen one player,
Patrick Mahomes, be able to kind of, you know, have
free reign back there and to make it work a guitar,
like when you escape the pocket and you run into
a rusher, Like that's what happens in the NFL. Mahomes
is the only one that's able to ever figure out
like how to just buy time and get the ball off.
Speaker 2: That was that was kind of my thing when he
was coming in the NFL, right, And I get it.
It's easy to compare him to Patrick Mahomes and nobody's like, oh,
he could be Patrick Mahomes. I'm like, for every Patrick Mahomes,
there's a Johnny Manzel. There's all these other players that
play like that that don't work out. You're pointing to
the one outlier, not the ten to fifteen players that
play like that don't work out.
Speaker 5: You mad house. I know what, sitting here watching.
Speaker 4: Elitue neighbors Brian Thomas and freaking Jaydon Daniels.
Speaker 5: I mean, look at Omar Space last night. That's one
of the ones.
Speaker 9: That's one of the ones that makes me the most
mad because I waxed poetic about Omar Space because like
my eyes told me he was a hell of a
football player at Oregon State, and I was like.
Speaker 5: Maybe my eyes lie to me. No, Matt how slide dude.
Speaker 6: Because he's a good football It was like Bobby White,
like Bobby Widen was on the Rams last year.
Speaker 9: It looks like he's a drafted free agent who's starting
for a Rams team that right now would be the
three seed in the n SC.
Speaker 2: Well here that he had that huge four down stuff
that led to the touchdown at the ten. I mean
he's making plates.
Speaker 9: And and he had people out here l s U
fans calling him slow Mar.
Speaker 6: Spates not not the pile on.
Speaker 4: But you know how, you know how if you find
like a Nazi scientist who's been in hiding for sixty years,
you can still try him under a war crimes tribunal. Yeah, mean,
we've all done that like, we like, we need to
retroactively legally punish Matt House for football war crimes.
Speaker 1: Bring it back like public stoning or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, that's pretty intense. I was thinking more of
like a tarring and feathering. No, I don't think he dies.
I don't really put a stone him to death in
the street. Maybe just glueso feathers on him.
Speaker 5: Is that I was thinking? And make him cluck.
Speaker 4: Because that's that's chicken ish? What what what they did
last year? Unbelievable, dude, unbelievable. You should have won. You
should have won ASH championship straight up.
Speaker 9: I mean, with those three players minimum payoff, do not
make the playoff is an absolute disaster.
Speaker 4: The further we get from it and we see how
good those three players are and just.
Speaker 5: Other players that we were like, wait, man, are they
are they good?
Speaker 9: They're starting in the NFL, so yeah, they're pretty they're
pretty good. Uh speaking of the playoffs though, how about
if you're Minnesota.
Speaker 5: Because I was like, yeah, they were pretty good this year.
Speaker 9: If you're in the Minnesota Vikings right now, you're thirteen
and two and you're the five seeds.
Speaker 5: Aren't you?
Speaker 4: And it's like, well, that's a meme that was like,
you know, Vikings thirteen and two in a rebuilding year,
and then the Lions thirteen and two and like their
best year ever are like.
Speaker 5: Wouldn't this was this supposed to be kind of a
nothing year from.
Speaker 4: Minnesota o'conne's obeast, especially when JJ went down.
Speaker 2: You know, everybody's and look hand up. I've been a
huge sem Darnald critic. I mean, I think I've talked
about his turnovers so many times on this show. But
there's a chance they can get that top seed though,
because if they went out.
Speaker 9: Yeah, for sure, it already fifth because Detroit is one
and so the package. So right now, the two seed
would be Philadelphia at twelve and three because they're leading
the East. The three seed, leading the West would be
the La Rams at nine and six. The four seed
would right now be Atlanta at eight and seven. The
five seed would be thirteen to two Minnesota going on
the road to Atlanta. Green Bay would get the sixth
seed right now at ten and four because they're also
in the North, and then the seventh seed would be
the Washington Commanders at ten and five.
Speaker 4: That's crazy that that the Vikings would have to hit
the road, go to Atlanta.
Speaker 9: I've been I've been on the other side of this
before when the Cults were thirteen and three and have
it come to us at eight.
Speaker 6: You know what that means though, right, Spencer Royland playing
spoiler tonight Packers, good luck.
Speaker 1: It's more Vikings.
Speaker 2: Vikings just have to win out because their next two
games Lions, Packers.
Speaker 1: They beat both those teams. Minnesota as the one seed
home field.
Speaker 10: Advantage, you got the one seed is that the Christmas
game Lions Packers.
Speaker 9: So in the AFC, AFC is the Chiefs is the one,
the Bills is the two, the Steelers is the three,
the Texans as the four fronts, the Ravens as a five,
the Chargers six, and the Broncos seven. So Cincinnati does
play Denver. If Cincinnati beats Denver, Denver loses their last game,
I thinks against Kansas City and Cincinnati wins out. I
think since he gets that last spot, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're still in the hunt for sure.
Speaker 9: How would you feel if you're the Bills twelve and
three and you have to face off against the Bengals, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Would have been you never you don't want to see
Joe Burrow, I don't think you want to playoff defense defense.
Speaker 1: Buffalo defense has been spotty.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and well, I mean the Bengals is you couldn't
find it with a search warrant, got to hold the mayo.
But still though in the playoffs, like you do have
Hendrickson who a sack fumble could change the game. You
know that Joe and t Higgins and Jamar are gonna
do their deal like that would be a team I
would not want to see in the playoffs. I wouldn't
want to see. The Bengals are the commanders in the playoffs.
Speaker 4: Especially Bold Dude, if we're just going by Harbaugh's playoff resume, No,
for sure, he's been incredible whenever he's gotten that play.
Speaker 9: I'm saying, like to get in that last seed. Yeah,
you're the two seed. And if I saw Burrow or
Daniel sitting there across from me and be like.
Speaker 4: What I mean, do you think do you think the
Falcons like with how well the Vikings are doing, is
that affecting the Falcons opinion on Kirk Cousins. You know
what I'm saying, like does that factor in? I mean
he hasn't played well for that.
Speaker 5: That's actually a really good point. But they are they
they're already mad and then they look over and they're
just like one of the dream dollar Falcons basically signed
up for the Jelly of the Month club.
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to take this stream down.
Speaker 5: Can't have Olas saying Nazi in that house.
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it's gonna tarn tarn feather just relaxed.
Speaker 6: No, We're just gonna back to guillotine.
Speaker 9: I can't believe the Bucks lost last night to the
sorry Cowboys. Not the sorry Falcons are gonna get in
the season.
Speaker 1: Well, they have Jade and Daniels and the Commanders next week.
Speaker 5: Who does falcons? Okay, never mind, Michael Finnix looks pretty
good in Washington. Did he look good? Actually? I just
see he looked. He looked. Okay, cos hits drop. That touchdown.
Speaker 1: Sucks in what in his fault?
Speaker 9: That's gonna go? That's gonna go back as like an
all time draft. Yeah, they took him ahead of Jamar
and Piney school. They asked him too about the quarterbacks.
A couple of weeks back and he said, oh no,
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Speaker 4: Oh great, it's the fifth anniversary of the release of
Rise of Skywalker.
Speaker 5: That's my Rise of Skywalker review. Wait, I thought that
was your favorite one.
Speaker 4: No, that's what you told me the other day, And
that's just so untrue.
Speaker 9: Literally you told me like that's the best Star Wars literally,
li liter.
Speaker 4: Really, nothing could be further from the truth in my opinion.
If you enjoy it, congratulations on being done. No, I'm
just kidding. I like, but I think I think it's
I think it's pretty pretty dang bad. You know, it's
not bad. It's a wonderful life. Be watching it tonight.
Cannot wait to be real tough for that Packer Saints
game to move in on. George Bailey and co.
Speaker 10: I've got it. I have got to sit down and
watch that. To Bob what, it's a wonderful life.
Speaker 5: You've still never seen it.
Speaker 4: No, I know it's shocking, just you know, the greatest
Christmas of all time. Even Palmer loves it now. I
think Hunting maybe never seen it before, and now he
calls it the goat.
Speaker 9: See here's the problem you had me until you that
Hunt liked it. Typically, Hunt and I, although I love Hunt,
we don't typically agree on much. We can disagree on
stuff and still be friends. It's not I mean, it's
not just obviously. Yeah, but you know you said, Hunt,
We're gonna tell me next. Moscona liked it.
Speaker 5: Probably. I think everybody likes it because it's awesome. It
probably is. I cannot wait to watch it again tonight.
Portal combat pay Flynn every time you say that big
weekend for l's shoot, what for for for for.
Speaker 4: Arriving parallel, for parallel thinking, for arriving the most obvious.
Speaker 9: I am typically with you on that because when people
are like you stole my tweet, it's like everybody's tweeting yeah,
hush exactly, But like I will give that simpleton. I'll
give him one little ounce of credit. Like the first
day we started talking about the transfer portal, he came
up with that. I was like, that's the best thing
you'll ever do birthday?
Speaker 5: Uh meat the football park? All right? Sorry my high?
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Speaker 4: Sanior Mitchell was already in the boat Friday right when
we talked about this or was it not official yet?
Speaker 2: Became official like the afternoon after our show?
Speaker 4: Okay, okay joined So we discussed him on Friday. We
basically knew he's coming in. But Sanor Mitchell, big d
tackle from Texas recruited by Bo Davis to Texas three
years of eligibility left six four, three forty to three fifty.
You know, just uh big some some gun.
Speaker 5: Straight up and and that's something you can't teach. I
swear word there is and you almost used it. Yeah,
you did use it Friday. I know, I did, I
know I did. What was I talking about? What?
Speaker 9: I don't remember what I was talking about? Then I
was like it was a little fired up. But then
here's some good news. It's been saying that you want
some that you want to help along the offensive line, right,
like you have young talent, but you need experience since
you're losing so much.
Speaker 5: Well, you do end up getting Virginia Tech Center. Brailan
Moore and flexibility.
Speaker 4: This is the guy who started a lot of games,
play aload games and flexibility is the name of the
game here. As I think this probably bumps DJ Chester
to guard it doesn't necessarily have to, but again, what
it does. It just gives you another starting, starting, interior
caliber guy. But purely from a size perspective, Brailan Moore's
sixty three three hundred kind of that prototypical center size.
DJ Chester a little bit bigger, maybe would fit better
as guard snap in fractions whatnot, Like I think Chester
was a bit better than he gets credit for it,
But then again he did have two very good guards
play next in for the majority of the year, right so,
but but I think he'll take a big lead next year.
You always do from your first second year starting. But
bringing in Brailen Moore now does free you up a bit,
Like if you're telling me it's more Mubinga and Chester. Okay,
but what I saw at a Mabina at the end
of the year, like it's not a bad in tear.
I think you still need to add a tackle, Oh yeah,
an offensive tackle, right yeah, And.
Speaker 5: We talked about that.
Speaker 9: I guess it would have been on Thursday or Friday
show and some of the different ones that were in
the portal. Because you've done a lot of really good
work in the portal, Like, just looking at it, you've
brought in the thirteenth, sixteenth, nineteenth, thirty nine, forty three,
seventy seven, eighty nine. Like, that's a lot of Top
hundred players in the portal in different positions. You've done
a really nice job there. There's still some that are
out there. You look at the safety position, I still
think you need to add another tight end that's a
veteran player, certainly a tackle Like those are the three
that I would say you probably still need to attack.
Oh minus the probably you need to attack safety, tight
end tackle Taylor.
Speaker 5: You had an idea at.
Speaker 2: Safety, Yeah, so well, this is something I talked about.
Speaker 5: For a while. Idea. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 10: H J.
Speaker 2: Cham and Toano played both in high school, and I
always thought he was a little bit better at safety.
Speaker 1: Think about all the.
Speaker 2: Corners you have brought in now crowded because you got
you got Woodland and Stamps coming back, You got mansword
delaying coming in, you got Jakeem Jackson from Florida coming in.
I mean there's not a ton of play in time
to be had. Well, DJ Pickett Andding those guys coming
in like safety spots up for grabs. You're Toviana, you
gotta want to do it and LSU I think it
makes sense for them as well.
Speaker 5: Do we know about Harold Perkins, EP, no word any
information there. LS.
Speaker 4: You did land another player oft the portal as well,
another top player as Florida State EDG Dresher Patrick Payton
joining the Tigers UH in four seasons with the seminals
one hundred and ten tackles, sixteen sacks. It's a pretty
good production. And now you got some depth there on edge.
And again, like we said, with the edge position, after
the job that Kevin Peoples did, any player that you
give Kevin Peoples becomes more exciting because you think he
can get the best out of them. You now have
Patrick Payton, Jack Pieburn, Jamari Butler, Gabrielrellaford. So you've created
depth there at the edge kind of out of nowhere
after losing a lot of depth.
Speaker 9: I think, I mean it's a player that on who
this is a player that I mean he came into
this season with like all preseason.
Speaker 5: All American type hype.
Speaker 9: Oh wow, I mean, certainly all he's All Conference, first
team ACC when you look at who he's been in
his career.
Speaker 5: He was Freshman of the Year in the ACC in
twenty twenty two.
Speaker 9: Oh damn, he had I think he had five sacks
that year. He had seven the next year, So he's
trending in the right direction. Now this year the production
went down, but all of Florida State went down. It's
hard to even say you know anything about their current
players because of how they ended up. I mean they
won two games, right, I think he just really spiraled
on them. Now he had four sacks this year, three
of them I believe in the cow game alone. And
so can you get that production that you saw the
freshman the sophomore year. He's an incredible talented player, and
we have seen proof that he can go out there
and be a game changer.
Speaker 5: Like he's actually one of the Like he's a.
Speaker 9: Guy that's still higher in the transfer portal as far
as ranking than he was coming out of high school.
And he was a pretty highly touted guy. So it's
not just potential. You've seen the proof, but it's gone
down this last year. And you got to say, okay,
was that because of where Florida State was. We do
have a coach that has gotten the most out of
the edge rushers at his time at LSU. This could
be a game changer right now, there's work to be done.
But Patrick Payton is somebody that coming into this year
there was people that thought he could be an All
American edge rusher. So if you can get that out
of him, then we're talking about one of the biggest
portal hits out there.
Speaker 4: So by far, the biggest potential of any portal edition,
I would say, though thus far. All right, so LSU
continuing to do a very good job in filling out
this roster in the portal.
Speaker 9: We can't leave out special teams war daddies. Grant Chadwick,
Oh yeah, the punner that you got. You were bad
at punter last year. I mean, let's just call it
like as you you rotated a couple of different guys
in there. Your punter, Peyton Town, I believe, was forty
one point six yards. That was his average, Chadwick is
forty three point four. Todd's long was forty eight, Chadwick's
long was sixty yards. A lot of a lot of
trying to definitely upgrade at that position, because I mean
it was it was bad. It was bad like you'd
play against some teams. I think it was the A
and M game. I'm sitting there on the broadcast. I'm like,
they are killed. You bombing these punts and you were
not even flipping the field.
Speaker 4: The h It was a bad weekend for punters. That
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Speaker 5: It was it Indiana.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the best morning sports show around. It's
Off the Bench with Hester and t Bob.
Speaker 5: Bring I make what up y'all? Welcome back.
Speaker 4: Nick, All right, we are trying to uh seed our
christ Baby bracket. We have been to wonderful life, crist Story,
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ranking of Bass Rudolph. This is an exceedingly white list,
uh to be to be clear about that, you know,
just just looking at it here. But we'll still see
it and see what and then start to put into
a vote and see who emerges. Jake, you were talking
about looking forward into round two of the playoffs. Right
from a game planning standpoint, you think it's a big
advantage for Kirby and Landing. Then you're saying the amount
of time they've been preparing for the likely winners of
what they thought would be the likely winners of the
round one game.
Speaker 9: Well, I mean I actually think it's an advantage for
Kenny Dillingham. I think Dan Lanning, I think Danielson at
Boise State, I mean I think all these coaches. Because
you looked at the first round matchups and your poor
phone has it just hit the ground again.
Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you something about where it was
sitting to It's very funny what these tights have no
they they have tights on underneath here, but there's no
They've just worn out in the groin. So I've just
got straight sack hanging out the bottom. And it was
just resting on top of the back of my phone
case and then it fell off.
Speaker 5: So I'm not picking up your phone every No, you shouldn't.
I don't want to touch that thing because that's a
lot of time.
Speaker 4: I just put it to my legs on thinking about it,
and then I realized that, oh, I'm just resting brain
on that thing, you know.
Speaker 10: Okay, Sorry, don't look up this skirt. No, don't do that.
You're good, all right?
Speaker 9: Back to the college football playoffs, you know what I'm
saying about, Like they probably had a pretty good idea
who's going to win these matchups even if we'd had
an upset, And maybe Dan Lanning he didn't have to
do as much on Ohio State because they've already played
them this year, so maybe he did more on Tennessee.
Speaker 5: But I would imagine it's going to be a big advantage.
Speaker 9: I mean, they've had three weeks basically to prepare for
their opponent, and certainly like guys like a Kirby smart
and like a Dane Lanning, who have you know, proven
to be some of the best coaches in college football.
And Kirby is like going to maybe by the time
he's done in the all time conversation. I just I
would assume that they did so much work on Notre
Dame and what they do well, Like I'm not saying
it's going to win them the game, but it's going
to give them an advantage for sure.
Speaker 5: Where if your Notre Dame, I mean you had to
be you know.
Speaker 9: All Indiana and now you can get you know, a
starred on Georgia.
Speaker 5: But it's you know, half the time that the other
team got.
Speaker 4: And I mean there is one thing that Kirby does again,
I'm terrified for Gunner Stockton. I think that's too much
of a hill to climb for them. But Kirby's got
the Belichick thing where he will take away what your
best at and Notre Dame so clearly wants to run
the ball right. It's how they beat Texas twice to
shut down Texas rushing attack, they forced Quinn viewers to
try to beat them. If you shut down Notre Dame
and forced Ryan Leonard tried to beat you. I think
Ryan Lennard will struggle. I still don't see how Georgia
scores it.
Speaker 5: I mean, think are they gonna run it on Notre Dame.
Speaker 4: I mean, maybe Gunner, you have an entire rpo game
that wasn't there before.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're gonna have a lot of Q runs. A
ton of Q is going to be a lot of
that up.
Speaker 9: But I mean, to your point, Georgia does nothing dynamic
on offense. Consistently, they find a way and you credit
them that by etn He's been good, hasn't been great.
Speaker 5: There's no receiver that really.
Speaker 9: Scares you if you're Notre Dame, right, and so like
that's yeah, no, not that secondary Like that's the thing
that I'm thinking of, Like Kirby does a great job
of taking away what you do well, but Notre Dame
is going to have that opportunity even more so because
that's what Georgia. And there's a little bit of the
unknown because you're playing a different quarterback. But man, I
would dare them to throw the ball and try to
beat me over the top. I mean, my safety's toes
would be at eight yards. And then if they beat you,
you go, okay, let's adjust. I mean Riley Leonard can
make the throws. Yeah, I mean he's not the most
accurate quarterback. But who you're gonna take like Gunder Stockton
or Riley Lenard in this matchup? So, I mean I
think it is this is a game where Georgia should
probably be an underdog.
Speaker 5: I think so too. No, I think so too.
Speaker 4: I think it's it's a sign of respect that they are,
that they are favorite.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the crowd's probably can be what fifty fifty.
Speaker 9: I don't think it's gonna be like a huge home
fit of a This game is not in Atlanta, it's
in New Orleans, so like I don't, I don't think
crowd's going to be a huge factor in it as well.
It's the game I'm most looking forward to, I think,
and I'm excited to go cover that game here in
a couple of weeks because I truly think it is
going to be a styles, make fights type of game,
smash mouth, old school, bloody nose type of football game.
But I think that game, oddly enough, my favorite Notre Dame.
Speaker 5: All right, when we get.
Speaker 4: Back, let's close out our number two votes to me,
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Speaker 5: I know Sheridan did it.
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it Mary Kingstown Like he does that one too.
Speaker 5: God, how can you have so many ideas in his head?
I don't know, they're all different. That's crazy different.
Speaker 9: Like I'm just waiting for one to be like that's
maybe there's I hadn't seen some of the Yellowstone stuff,
like the other spinoffs.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of it. Yeah, there is so.
Speaker 4: One episode of one with Tim McGraw back in like
the eighteen nineties.
Speaker 5: I did see. I did see that one. Hadn't seen
the one with Harrison Ford yet. There's one with Harrison
Ford now. Yeah. Oh geez, working out Harrison New Indiana
Jones video games supposed to be very good.
Speaker 9: How have we not talked about when Shane Gillis called
Nick Saban a Jones I was week.
Speaker 4: Was saved about those paying player Joe Sabin wanted to
m f M so bad.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you could tell he was trying to not
get fined.
Speaker 4: And Gillis has now gotten to the point where like
he felt like he was like he was nervous after
he said He's like it was really I was just kidding. Well,
I mean he felt but well, this is what I
think it is. I think Gillis at first was like,
you know, it's just fun, it's just a joke whatever.
Then Saban got mad, and then I felt like Gillis
kind of at first was a little bit like whoa.
But then I thought Gillis got mad, like okay, like look, wait,
hold on a second, like I'm really famous, you know
what I'm saying, Like like Nick Saban is too, certainly,
but Nick Saban doesn't actually have power over Shane Gillis.
Like if you're in college football or sports in general, Jake,
and you say something like that to.
Speaker 5: Saving that could have repercussions.
Speaker 4: I felt like Gillis by the end of it was
kind of like wait, wait, hold on, like because at
first I think he was a bit like oh man, what, but.
Speaker 5: Then he's like, wait a second, I don't have to feel.
Speaker 4: Bad, like no, like I'm I'm my own success, Like
I'm Shane Gillis, and that's what he called them, Alabama
Jones so good dude.
Speaker 10: Weird though you can tell like he's like it's just
a joke, like yeah, what.
Speaker 5: But I mean that's the thing.
Speaker 4: It's like the paining players thing, right, I know, Nick
Saban gets defensive.
Speaker 5: I don't think it takes away from Nick Saban's legacy.
I think he built a system in which he probably
had some sort of plausible deniability. I don't know that
I think that Alabama.
Speaker 4: Was doing anything that out of pocket or that much
different than others. But there was some stuff going on, right, Like,
It's not like it's it's I mean, but I guess
if you're Nick Saban, though, what can you do? You
can't really sit there and agree with it or laugh
at it, can you?
Speaker 5: No, he can't agree with it right now.
Speaker 7: I don't think the SEC paid players ever, period. I'm
Alabama Jones is.
Speaker 12: I do believe in integrity. I was trying to run
the program that way so players had a better chance
to be successful in life.
Speaker 5: I agree, more money in the.
Speaker 12: NFL than any other school sixty one plays in the league.
Speaker 5: That was how we cheated. We developed players we recruit.
Speaker 7: So sorry, okay.
Speaker 4: I forgot about the for real, I'm so sorry that
he did feel he did he did feel a little bad.
Speaker 5: He would.
Speaker 4: It kind of reminds me of when he did his
uh his snl open, which was very good.
Speaker 5: But you know, some of the jokes a little controversial.
Speaker 4: There's some point some of the bammers like weren't laughing
and stuff, and he's kind of like, I mean, he's like,
these are the jokes, like if y'all see my routine, Like,
I mean, what's going on here, dude?
Speaker 9: I thought this was a fun show to hit to
hit him with the Alabama Jones, Alabama Jones in the
moment with that hat on. That's why it's you know,
one of the most popular comedians out there.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then his Irish one.
Speaker 5: You know, he did good on him? Good night all right?
Speaker 9: Like if if if Nick would have thought about it
real quick, he could have come after him for having
a letterman jacket on. Mmmm, like that had been that
had been a good comeback. Uh, didn't he Like, wasn't he.
Speaker 4: Gonna play in one of the military schools when he
quit or something like that?
Speaker 6: All right?
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