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So let's get into this. I'm gonna start with you,
mister Muss. What did you think of Pray? Because I
feel like I think your only history Preddit is the
Predator that we did for the podcast, right pretty much.
Speaker 4: I've seen bits and pieces of the other one because
my dad's a big fan of these movies, so I
feel like growing up, they would just be on and
I would watch scenes here or there, but I don't
know if I ever sat down for one started finish.
So yeah, going into twenty eighteen one, that movie was
kind of shit.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: It was a fun review and all that, but you know,
not a great movie by any means. But I also
feel like, I, you know, have played some games, right,
I just know about the characters enough that I m,
you know, I know at least what's going on a
little bit. But you know, truthfully, this one, I was
not too interested in it until I found him yesterday
that it's all on Disney Plus on the day of release.
I'm like, oh, okay, well that's a much easier pill
to swallow, so I'm gonna go and check it out.
And I also heard it was quite good, so I mean,
that's you know, easier to recommend I if I heard that.
So yeah, I really liked it. I really enjoyed this movie.
I think it's just shot very well, Like that's maybe
one of the standout things for me is just visually,
it's it's just a fun journey to go on. Great
like a main character, protagonist, great action. I don't know
if it's that surprising of a movie. I feel like
the story you kind of you could predict what's gonna
happen just from the trailers. Like, I don't know, it
doesn't do much to subvert the expectations. But I just
had a lot of fun with the little moments in
this movie. And I'm excited to bring up what those are,
but just not little not like even plot things, but
just little details here or there. But yeah, I'm curious
to hear what you guys think as the big Predator
fans or at least, well, I know Taylor is at
least a huge Predator fan. I guess the rest of
you are kind of have a passing interest, but you
at least have seen them all. So yeah, I don't know.
That's about as much as I can say.
Speaker 2: I feel like kirkham Pats are the war Chief, a
ward chief himself. Yes, this was this was an interesting one.
Before cast I was saying that I started it last
night and I started in Comanche. Uh that version too,
which is like the dubbed.
Speaker 1: Did you figure it out, Taylor? Because I couldn't find
it at all? Like I feel like you just changed it.
Speaker 2: Did you do on the web browser? Where did you
do it?
Speaker 3: You know? I did on my TV and on my TV,
like I went to like the dub settings and I
saw a Kyle like Italian Chinese everything. I was like,
but I didn't see the command she.
Speaker 2: I just yeah, I just did it on my web
browser because I was editing last night and then I
think it was in like like the trailer section, and
then it was in there as well, so I was
watching it. I ended up switching it back just because
I wanted to like actually like see the voice or yeah,
like the actors delivered lines and everything. And it was
an interesting one because yesterday I was trying to determine
if I just really love this movie or not or
if I was being tricked, and I got to say,
I I think I don't think I'm quite there the
loving part. But man, I I really really really enjoyed
this movie, and I was. I was very surprised. I've
definitely some things to bring up, like in spoiler section
on some things that I think could have made this
just such a better movie. But that being said, like
it was still such a great quality. It really just
made me appreciate like where I live, because this film
was like it was filmed in I think Calgary, Alberta,
but like still like just it reminded me of our
backyard here. It's just everything was so beautiful. I loved
all like the costume designs and everything. I yeah, I
really like the lead as well, So yeah, I was
I was very surprised about this one, and yeah, I'm
excited to talk about the nitty gritty.
Speaker 1: I'm interested to get more into it. Why you think
you were tricked into that?
Speaker 3: Like, is there some how the gunpoint and I was tricked.
Speaker 1: Or it's over all right? I love pray there.
Speaker 2: There was just certain moments where I'm like, this just
feels so fan like fan filmed. And I feel like
it's because I just I just recognized so many like locations.
It just it just seemed like it was filmed in
my backyard, if that makes any sense. But then there
was moments that I don't know, I hope you don't
got Yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Hope you don't got that mud water collection.
Speaker 2: Don't go in my backyard.
Speaker 1: Poor Marco. He's being trained to like be a killer
or anything. But uh yeah, I'll go next, I'll leave
the I's gonna call you mister Predder. For last, I'll
just say tarror Field for last. That's yeah, that field.
But yeah, So this movie, I've been excited for it
ever since because, like Dan Treinberg, I think we all
liked ten Cloverfield Lenk to varying degrees, but that was
something that was very clever with the Cloverfield franchise. We've
seen it go on different routes, so I was like, Okay,
that was just a really good to even I have
to watch it. It's been a while. I just remember
when I watched the first time that the back half
was a little light, but most of the film was great.
So I was always interested in the concept of that
Amber mind Hunter. People know, I'm a huge fan of Legion.
That's up there with Daredevil. Watched from which I think
the comic movies, and she's in that quite a bit.
So everything from that to it being a prequel, to
it being very similar to the first one, And we
talked about this. They never really went back to the woods,
you know, they never went like the first one happens
in the jungle, and they never go back. It's a city,
it's a bunch of predators. It's alien versus predator. They
go in another city. It's like, how come we never
did this? The simple stupid method. And I think, if
I want the classic have a good time, cheesy one liners,
the dude bro actiony movie, Predator, the original is still
the top tier. Whatever you're talking to me, like, what
I think is the best film? This is absolutely and
I think it's like bounds better than The Arnold and
the Arno one has so much classic stuff and it's
such a fun that to me is like a fun
amusement ride type of thing. But this feels like a
fucking movie. And I think they did a great job.
I don't think The Predator's been scarier in any other
film than this one. The email of tax they have,
the gadgets, they have, how they just the choreographer. I
should have looked me, I'll look like you guys are
talking about the choreographer whoever, like staged these fights really good,
because I feel like even when we reviewed that last one,
The Predator, it's like, you have the Predator. It's very
cool character, but there was nothing memorable other than okay,
we joked about the walking with the gun and stuff,
but all the memorable stuff was fake. It was not planned.
It was like, oh, look at this scene. There's some
really well thought out clever fighting scenes, like escape scenees,
stuff like that. And I really love this aspect of
the Predator coming to Earth for the very first time
and you're seeing that it's not an origin story but
just you're seeing that them looking at this Terraman Okay,
what is this? Animals? Like, what is this?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 1: I I really really like this movie. I don't think
it's in like my top five the year or anything
like that. It's not like a ten out of ten.
But I would love, like we were talking about in
the discord, I would love if this was Predator from
now and that we just went to different ages of
him being on Earth and just or them being on Earth.
It could have been a sheep predator, I don't know,
but any sort of predator just being on Earth fighting
different like time errors, people, cultures, whatever, that would be great.
And the predator is probably always gonna lose because that's
just what happens. But I thought this was very creative.
It's a simple story, but I guess that's I think.
I'm just kind of fine thing because we got that
Last Prayer where it's like, oh, well, there's so many
worlds and these predators are fighting and there's infighting. I
liked that it was just a simple monoi mono woman
versus predator. Well, woman and dog versus predator and let's
see what happens. And I yeah, I loved this film,
had a really good time that I probably watch again
very soon, because I think it's a it's a good
put on movie too. It doesn't feel like when you
have to like you gotta build up to you just
watch by itself. But yeah, I was a big fan
of it. So Tayorfield take it away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I I mean, if you already know, I
stayed up till midnight to watch this right away, and
it was as you said it, Travis, I think that's
a good way to explain it, like there was something
very simple about it. But there's nothing wrong with that
at a time when your franchise is struggling in the
box office. Now, when you look at the previous iterations
like The Predator, there were certain components that I loved
in that film because it was perfect for the universe
of Predator. It was great seeing on the big screen.
That being said, they turned it into something that it
really shouldn't have been with that storyline, and it didn't
work out. But one of the big kickers again, like
you mentioned, is the anthology factor. And we were talking
about this not too long ago, where I think that's
a good key component for the Predator franchise, and I
think I hope other horror movie franchises adopt this concept
but keep them as anthology because where you have this film,
it's just doesn't have to be directly related to whatever
the other Predator films are. It's just, hey, this is
this time period, there's a predator on the planet, and
this is what's happening, and it's great. Just like you said,
let's focus on different time periods because then you're not
held to specific standards. You don't have to have this
let's double our efforts like from Predator two to Predator one,
which just making it totally wacky and more crazy. It's
just the standards are set. And I think that's where
this really thrives because they kept something very simple. They
just kept the concept of is and just some components
that people are familiar with. And it worked. It really
really worked. There were so many things that I really enjoyed.
And this is something that Madison brought to my attention
which I actually really liked. Was seeing it like the
way they did certain like CGI things or certain like
budget things. It was okay, but seeing it with a
TV like a four K TV, the moments that didn't
weren't like really good. The four K TV, I feel like,
really made you notice that they weren't good.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, but when.
Speaker 3: It was good, it was really really good. So I
think that's one of the things that kind of stuck
with me as I was watching through it, and I
think a kicker would have been like, Hey, if this
movie had that theatrical budget backing it up, I think
it would have been absolutely incredible for what it could
have delivered. But it's not a huge takeaway. I understand
it's a Hulu Star streaming Disney Plus movie, but for
what they did, it was absolutely awesome.
Speaker 1: I still you, though I agree with you, I still
wish they did a limited release here because I would
have loved to see this on the big screen for
some of.
Speaker 2: The Yeah to the theater, just pop it up there.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go that far. I like the movie, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I completely agree with what you said there
Taylor about like the CGI moments, because I feel like
there was certain moments where it really did shine, whereas
if you did see it on the larger screen, it
wouldn't have been as no asply. I remember thinking about
that with like shun Chi, and I thought the CGI
looked so much better when I saw it in theatrical
and then when I rewatched it was like, oh, okay,
the CGI is really it's really showing the limits of
what it is, what it's at. So yeah, it is
a shame that it didn't get a limited release in
theaters because I don't know the as you mentioned the
stuff that looked really good. It was fantastic and yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: Just like Taya said, they've had a couple of like
the ones. Yeah, dude here and hey, at least we
got it. Seems like it's got lots of good words.
I don't know what their ideas would be. But before
we talk about that, let's uh take a first out
break and if you've not seen it, you can go
watch the movie. Come back. If you don't care, you
can stick around. We're gonna do our spoils review right
after this and we're back. You like that, don't you
like my like my transitions?
Speaker 4: There were dancing, you were dancing around it.
Speaker 1: You know what I wanted to say, because I didn't
want to spoil anything. It's like, obviously I don't think
there'd be like a sequel to this because it's I
feel like you know, the we're sports now, Predator gets
killed as always and stuff like that, and like, I
guess the only thing is if it's very well received
and does well streaming, that might be the idea of, like, hey,
make something similar to this, but I kind of hope not,
Like I would be fine if it's like there's a
prey to and it's the same kind of concept as
far as we're going in different eras. But I don't
think we need, you know, another predator to come back
to the tribe and like this's this time, it's personal,
you know, I agree.
Speaker 3: Like we don't, and I stand by the fact of like, hey,
keep these as anthology films, give us different characters and
time periods. Not being said, I feel like they really
just alluded at the end to the fact that hey,
we're gonna maybe can continue this story. Did you guys
get that too? With all like the easter eggs they
were dropping.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know these easter eggs because like.
Speaker 3: In the end credits scene, it shows her returning to
the tribe and like the script descriptions, and then it
shows a whole fleet of predatorships coming in and then
even then she's like before the end credits scene or
the credits rule, she was like, hey, we need to leave,
there's like a threat nearby or something like that.
Speaker 1: It was just in the sketches, right, it wasn't actually
the sketches.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you see like the ships depicted as like coming
in like three of them, I believe it was. And
then you have the predator. Uh, well, the pistol, which
is a big component we'll talk about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you could, like, I like the idea
of the anthology better, but you can easily now have
her in her entire try versus a bunch of predators.
I think that is just the kicker, because that's usual
what happens. Like, Oh, if people really like pray, we'd
like a sequel directly to this and not. People don't
usually think of anthology terms, right for movies, TV shows, yes,
but for movies not so much horror has done that.
But yeah, I could see it. I wouldn't be opposed.
I wouldn't be a posed because there was some I
love the landscape, I guess I would say that this movie.
I loved the setting. That was one of the cells already,
but the setting one of my favorite segments. I think
some of my favorite shots is and I'm going kind
of deep in the movie. But when her and her
brother tied up against that tree and it's like that
it's not dusk, but it's that kind of like the
suns that just coming out. It's light there by this tree,
and there's just like lots of like Lee's blowing and
smoke and it's just like it's great for like the
predator to move around. But there's just certain shots where
they're just have it zoomed out and it just looks great.
And there's lots of good landscapes in here. But that
was one of my favorite ones, was this kind of
setting of the bait. And yeah, I really liked kind
of everywhere we went. We didn't travel too much terrain,
but everywhere we went I enjoyed quite a bit the marshy,
you know, type of water and stuff.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's yeah, it was my backyard.
Speaker 1: I you got a brother Winster perow pair tied up
back there.
Speaker 2: You'll never know, Yeah, it might be you next. Yeah,
Like I I absolutely loved when her and her dog
like left to just go like on her own little
mission and like there's not a lot of like noise
other than her just like traversing, Like she's not talking,
we're just going on this little adventure that's what she
come across, like just the different animals when she's hunting,
and then like the the mud section like that was
just it was so fun to follow her and just
see her like be be a tracker. And I liked
all the moments too of when she was like or
like mixing the medicines and stuff and all those little
detail moments Like all of that was ten to ten
for me. All the Comanche stuff, I should say, like
I loved all of that. The usage was really really good.
And yeah, like the visuals there were absolutely gorgeous. The
seed sheet high that didn't work for me was definitely
like the animals, I would say, And it's a bummer
because I feel like like those types of things is
what will probably make this movie not age that well
because it's just really bad, Like right now, I can
only imagine what it's it's gonna look like like in
the future, Whereas like if you actually just had I
don't know, a shot of an actual animal or just
I don't know, try to hide it better, it could
just make it age better. I don't know, small things.
Speaker 1: But it's funny because you guys brought up I didn't
have the issue. I guess it's because I remember when
we did the song she reviewed and I was big
on like, hey, this final sequence, like there's lots of
bad stuff going on here. I guess for me, it's
because the animals aren't in it too much and they're
just such a smaller point where definitely when they're there,
I'm like, Okay, this is just a CGI model. I know.
I know time we know that because actors now they
just don't work with animals anymore because just stuff happens.
Go watch nope, you know, like there's lots of bad things.
You don't want a gory situation. But I definitely like
it's stand out, Like I know it's cg but I
guess because it it didn't exactly take me out of it.
Even the Predator, which I liked most of the time,
when he had the like the mask on, they looked
like they would as practical as can be. Obviously once
you take the face off, they're gonna do CGI. Even
though back in the day both movies they did practical,
so I think they could.
Speaker 3: It wasn't even a lot of CGI when the mask
was off, Like a lot of it you could tell like, oh,
really it was practical with like as pincers and stuff
like that at times.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like then they just did a CGI
like overlay on his face because he looked very computer
And that's where.
Speaker 4: You can't at least tell that almost all the time,
if not the whole time, there was actually a dude there,
and yes, you know, and that's that's a big difference too,
and just in terms of like walking around, because he
obviously is a very lifelike character in terms of the
proportions and the body type and stuff like that. So yeah,
I'm on I'm on Travis's side in terms of the
CGI like obviously I can tell that that is not
a real wolf, but I thought it. I thought it
looked really good. You know, it could be better. I
guess it always could be could be more lifelike, but
I thought it was fantastic overall. So yeah, I don't
think I have that same criticism.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: I don't have a four K TV, so maybe maybe
you guys got those higher feelity screens, higher frame rates
and it's like, oh that looks bad, But yeah, for me,
like I don't know that was I don't know up
there with the best like Animal CGI. Maybe not liked
Disney tier when they when they put their budget into
things and take time. But yeah, I don't know. I
thought it looked really good and I wanted to go
back a little bit to what Travis saying, just like
with the landscape shots, Like I feel like there's at
least fifty different shots in this movie that I would
love to just screenshot and puts my you know, computer
background which sends on Disney Plus, I can easily do that,
but I don't. I don't know what it is exactly,
because there is this movie is just like you know,
filmed out in nature, and it's just a lot of
like greens and browns if you really you know, simplify it.
But whatever it is with like whatever they kind of
cameras they were using, or if it was the editors
and twisting the knobs to get that contrast and brightness correct.
But I just thought like the the nature, the trees
and all this like popped so well and there was
just such a like crisp clarity to it all that
I just thought it looked fantastic. I don't know, I
just I would I would put this movie on in
the background as you mentioned Travis, just to like have
those beautiful landscapes just cruising around like it just just
looked fantastic.
Speaker 3: People come over all. I love this.
Speaker 4: These just like animals getting gutted well.
Speaker 1: And I think another thing is like we see a
bunch of films with so much of the eyep stuff
we review, is like when they're in these forests or woods,
they're not really in these forests of woods anymore. Yeah, right,
And that's that's the thing that helps here. It's the
same it's that same Lord of the Rings versus Hobbit scenario,
which you know those are coming out in a retrospective soon.
But Lord of the Rings there's just such luscious colors
and it's just landscapes and real things. Where the Hobbit
it's just like it's Ian McKellen in a room and
there's nothing there, and it's just like you can get
as close as possible, but can you always tell there's
like a certain shine, like doing some about a certain
light or something about it. But when you're there, it's
just like, oh, they're they're in the woods, they're at
these trees. You know, this is all it starts to
breathe and I guess maybe that's where the animals even
help with me, because they kind of like sunken into
that and you're in this scenario and whatnot. And but yeah,
I want to talk about like what Kirk was saying.
That's why I think I liked As far as the
simple story, I love that, Okay, there's this tribe. She's
honestly skilled, but the whole thing is like she hasn't
brought back a big hunt, and people are kind of
like starting to there's whispers like, yeah, she's probably can't
really do it. You couldn't lead this tribe. I know
that she has to leave, but just like you can't
be what these other guys are. You can't be just
a bro. Yeah she's not a brother, even though her
brother kind of fucking steals all her stuff.
Speaker 4: But I love I love then hawk though, Yeah, oh god,
that's impressive.
Speaker 1: And that's where I loved both stories. As far as
with her, it's simply I'm gonna go out, get a hunt,
bring it back, and man, when we get the end
of the film, that's like such a fun like full circle.
But I love that we're just gonna go out there
do a hunt, and that's it. And predators. Thing is
just I'm on Earth exploring the world. I love that
his first kills like a bunny and he's like looking
at it. He like the predators always take the skull
and the spines. He took like the skull and spine
of a bunny because it's like, well, cause like there's
a chance that the predator lands on Earth and maybe
Taylor would say no because they'd look into but like
if they land on Earth and they just like, it's
just bunnies here, you know, like they don't know. And
that's why I love like this story of her working
her way up to get her killed and the predator
working his way up through like the proverbial food chain
in our world, and then just a meeting of the two,
Like I really enjoyed that. I just love that it
was this collision course and it gave us that.
Speaker 3: And it's funny how you showed it made us watch
that video of that guy fighting that bear the other day,
and that scene popped in. I'm like, fuck, this is
that goddamn scene all over again. This dude's fight this bear.
Speaker 1: No nuts shot though the predat didn't. He should have
done that. He could have took up the bear a
lot quicker. We just nuts shot at the bear.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that storyline was super well done too.
Of that, Like you know, there was she had a
great mind, but she just maybe didn't have like all
the skills or maybe the strength or really was just
like the opportunity since she was really only given it
seems like this one kind of chance and she fucked
up because she's learning. They're like, you have to go now,
like you can't assist us anymore. But I love that
in the end, like it was her being underestimated, that
was her advantage that was able to give her that uprasion. Now,
also that she was very cunning and she learned very
well and she was a great tracker. But just like
narrowing it down to that just being underestimated and that's
what gave her that one step up on the predator
in the end, I thought that was I thought that
was fantastic. Just all that was great. As you mentioned Travis,
the I love that too. They just climb, yeah, climbing
through that tournament bracket until they get to each other
at the end for the grand finals. It's really cool.
Speaker 3: Well, that's that's such a key core to the predator.
I mean you have like on Porschnegger, you have.
Speaker 1: U Donald Glover, Royce, yeah, Donald don Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's just about screwed.
Speaker 1: I always screwed up all these things.
Speaker 3: I've seen online people saying like, oh, you have this again.
There's just I guess a lot of sexist people there.
Oh you have this woman who just you know, half
the fighter of all the people in her tribes just
goes to toe to toe with the predator and just
kicks his ass or whatnot. But it's not that, it's
it's so much more because it's observation. Is that cunning
factor you said, Dylan, Where in these films with the Predator,
these people, other people get killed, and these individuals they
notice these things, they start to learn these things, and
then they are able to you know, move up the
food chain kind of and just kind of adapt and
then exercise that. And it makes sense in the narrative
of the story where she sees how the helmet's using
this the not the plasma caster weapon, but like a
more little key version of that. Just she able to
figure out using the orange plant as well, and just
how it drops the body temperature like all these little things,
and I love how it builds up to this, uh,
this moment where she can kind of use it all
against this predator. It's just it's it's awesome. It truly
is awesome at the expense of many people of her
tribe unfortunately. But you know, it's just the way it
goes where you do have these people that are thinking
with their weapons, like oh, why do you have a
rope tied onto your axe? It like it's so much
more than that, and they just can't see it that way.
It's like they're just using their bows and arrows for
your weapon, at least for a weapon. Yeah, And it's
not to say that they're bad fighters, because like in
that one choreographed scene where the three hunters went up
against that predator and like that one dude just like
jumps up in the air and like jabs the spear
down to his fucking foot and like just they were
going to town, and it was it was having me
on the edge of my seat something and like shit,
like it's gonna go sour, you know, it's gonna go sour.
And sure enough, like a wooden spear isn't gonna do
much against this alien like dual swords that just like
cut them and hat it's so well done. Jesus hell, yeah,
I'm just juicing over here.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say toy that I want to ask,
just like a can thing, but why the helmet? Is
it like a little less more sci fi because even
the predators at this point are supposed to be like
because the predators we get now in the helmes, like
in the Arnold area, it's like that covers almost their
whole face. It's a lot more high tech and metal
and stuff like that. I will say this is the
first film I love the thermal because I always hate how
they do the thermals in the film. You can never
see what the hell's going on and it's just like
so out there. But is that just what it is
that the preadors still are like older, like hundreds of
years older in tech, that that's why they kind of
have or do you think that's just a specific guy
has this like it looked very like not usual predator
high or something exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it's that's interesting because yes, the director stated
that they wanted this predator to feel like he wasn't
as advanced as the current ones are. But he still
has advanced weaponry compared to what we see.
Speaker 1: On Earth now that you had some real advance, really
advanced fuck.
Speaker 3: That being said though, I do think it's up to interpretation.
Where you have you have a predator that still obviously
it's it's not just a bone mask, like he has
a thermal optics, which is great. You can still see
metal plating underneath the skull that he's with skin. Yeah,
full time. I mean we've seen we've seen predators where
mister Black, the main berserker predator, has like that skull
jaw line attached to his mask. So it's it's a
very prominent thing with these predators again, this being a
feral predator. I this is a whole am I understanding
a new kind of take with the predator because obviously
looks very different. It's from a different part of where
other our main predators don't normally come from. And as
we know now, there's so many different tribes of predators
and that's what makes this universe so rich is because
they're all rivalrying against each other with their fights and
you know, big trophies everything like that. So now you
have this faral guy comes from a very different part
of Yautcha Prime, I'm sure or something like that looks
very intense and is super like just like has a
personality to him. But it could even come down to, hey,
I'm just gonna go to this planet and just limit
myself with what kind of weaponry and tech I have,
just to make it more of a challenge. Totally up
to the viewer's perspective.
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, No, I was just curious about
that because I don't know if it was also just
trying to aesthetically fit with like where he is right
now and things, and I don't know if it's too
like maybe they get more high tech helmets later, because
like man, the last time someone got sent to Earth,
it's uh and this faral one though we haven't seen
another Predator films. Do you think it just kind of
maybe died out or something at some point, because if
they're fair.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's possible, Like here's it's like a brutal
like they just look super brutal, and so I wanted
to pull up like that and the comparison like they
look insanely different, I would say, like especially in the
way their foreheads are. But these the original classic ones,
their foreheads kind of dip in a little bit, and
then this guy's like very much protruding out very narrow
as like a football head, like a football. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The other ones a lot wiser. Their craniums are just
like mega mind yea.
Speaker 3: But again, like I don't mind it because we've had
the Berserker Predators and so we see these tribes. I
mean maybe this is a colony that died out. That's
a cool concept.
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, I really liked it too. It was just
like another a good excuse to just give us like
different looking gadgets that we've seen already from Predator. And
you know me, I love my gadgets and I.
Speaker 3: Got your net weapon in this oh man.
Speaker 2: Yeah awesome, it's so vicious. Yeah, I just love the
range that he had, and I did like that it
looked like a more primitive Predator. It was just I
don't know, I really like that concept, even if it
like logistically it's like, well, like aren't they like still
way in way like in the future with technology compared
to us? But I don't know, it just worked. I
really liked the usage of in the story and it
just fit like the setting a lot more. And yeah,
I loved his bone mask. It just seemed I feel
like it really fit to for it being this like
this like Boogeyman of like the tribes people like they
just have heard stories of something like this, Like I
just feel like it fit that that theme so much
more than if you had like a RoboCop looking predator.
Yeah you know so, I I really like the choice
of it. And man like just yeah, his like bone mask,
especially in like that foggy sequence that you're talking about, Travis,
like when you it was on like posters and stuff
like one of the initial promotional pieces. It just it
looks so good. And yeah, I loved his new shoulder
like crossbow thing that he had that was that was
it was.
Speaker 3: I loved shoulder because it was on his wrist right.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, that's right. Yeah, Yeah, I loved it all.
And his shield, oh man, that was so sweet too,
and just again a vicious weapon.
Speaker 3: It was like intense when she like meudged herself forward
between the rocks and then it.
Speaker 4: Like my hold on fuck yeah, well just chop the
tree in half.
Speaker 2: That was pretty yeah.
Speaker 4: And the guy sorry yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, that scene with that shield when it was
just he slams it down the rock and get it's
just like edging edging closer, and I maybe it's happened,
but I haven't seen it. When she just like takes
his little, you know, side thing on his mouf and
just ripped off, like oh my god, like and that's
where it's like again, this franchise been around since eighty seven.
There's been comics and movies where I'm seeing stuff for
the first time that hasn't happened in these like that's
good stuff, and uh no that there was some intens
so I didn't think she's gonna die right there, but
it is. You always love that, even if you have
a main character, if you put in a situation, get
how they gonna get out of this? You know, because
I'm thinking, like, hey, what else could she do? Her
arms are kind of eyed up, and then she like
wiggled out like it was very well again well shot
that way of like some good claustrophobic moments. When the
predator was around and man, when he was like squaring up,
whether it was with the Pelters or just the other
tribes people, you think like, yeah, they got four of them,
but it doesn't matter. He's just he's just mowing them down.
Like I said, this is the scariest to be the
Predator's ever been, even though this one loses, I wasn't
sure how I liked the whole The helmet just automatically
locks onto anything that gets in its way. I thought
that was like a little convenient to he just steps
there and it just locks. I feel like he would
have to select that go like because because I don't
even know, because technically then if he has the helmet,
shouldn't just make anytimes he sees anything, it just locks.
It was just kind of a little too convenient for me.
And I feel like at that point, she kind of
already had him dead to right, so I feel like
he could have just drowned and that would have been
still a fun way for him to die. But she
needed that head, right, So I guess I get it.
But so much I thought when they.
Speaker 4: Fell in the mud pit, because I just don't know
much about preador stuff, I thought like that Predator was
gonna get like Encase in the mud and that was
the predator who comes up in like the first Predator
movie or something like that. I was like, that's kind
of a cool connection, I suppose, But yeah, I don't
know how I would have to think about if the
movie ended there, if I would have felt satisfied or not.
But I genuinely thought for a good ten seconds that
that was the route they were gonna go with that.
Speaker 1: Well, what I was saying in that moment, I thought
he was just gonna drown. I thought, even if he
was dead, I feel like as a tribe, I would
not feel comfortable being around in the area. Obviously, she says,
we got to go. But it's like this alien thing
thing you don't know the status. If I can't hold
its breath, I can't climb out, like I could not
sleep knowing just like ten miles away there's this thing
just in the water. Maybe it's dead, maybe it's completely gone.
But yeah, but no. With the Predator, a few of
the shots my favorite, I don't know if it's my
favorite shot overall, but the reveal of when he fights
that bear and he cuts it down and he lifts
it up and again we've seen like similar things, but
never to this extent in a Preder movie, where the
bear's blood just falls all over him revealing it and man,
what a scary image. It's just this combination of trans
like transparent land and just blood and like again in
this day and age's not even an Arnold ninety seven,
being like, man, this is crazy. I think this is
even worse, Like there's been no scientific stuff at all.
So you had this guy with a cloaking device is
covered in blood. Even the bear fight was great to
see that. Two of the other ones I liked is
in the middle of that net tightening one when he
like some guy went to attack him and he just
took a bear trap and he just whipped out a
guy's face. Fuck, it was just like stuff where it's
just like they did that, all this would be cool.
And then the other one was there was a guy
that was running up to him and he like pushed
him in the air, cut his legs down, and then
like pinned him to the rock. And then when my
hunter I can't what was the character's actual name, the
main character's name. Yeah, so and then when she looks over,
it's just a guy attached to the stunt, attached to
the stump of a tree with no legs, and it's
just like she didn't see that happen. But what would
you be thinking in this moment you just look over
and this guy who was just fighting the preyor second
go is stuck to the tree and he has no
legs and it's like that he just tore through people. Boy.
My last shot too, is when she that whole thing
was happening. It's just that great secrets in the middle,
and she's running through the field and the guys like
we got them and no, he got us, and they're
running and you just get this wide shot of her
running through the field and then the predator attacking that
guy and just blood spattering everywhere. It was just like, man,
just shot after shot of like cool stuff is happening
and it looks good. It was just a plethora of
great predator content in this movie.
Speaker 4: For me, I want to want to correct drivers. I
feel like you're saying mind Hunter. Are you saying that
she was in mind Hunter? Because it's mid Thunder.
Speaker 3: I watched the YouTube video and how to pronounce her name.
Speaker 1: Actually, okay, I'm gonna stick with Amber for Nata. I
learned that in my brain.
Speaker 4: Wait, sorry, what is it, Taylor?
Speaker 3: I Amber? Mid thunder Thunder is how mind mid Thunder?
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 4: I didn't know if she was like from mind Hunter
and yea from Mine Hunter. Yeah, it was just too close.
It's like something something's a mister. But just to quickly
go back to that mud pit scene we talked about,
you know, the part with the predator, but I also
loved the scene when she first falls in it because obviously,
you know, as soon as she falls in, obviously she's
not dead here. And even like before the lead Wow, yeah,
i'magine if that happened. But even like even before she
pulls out the acts, you're like, oh, she just learned
how to use that of course, like that makes sense
to get her out of there. But I still thought
that scene was I was just glued to my screen,
like what is gonna happen here? The tension of it,
and I was like one hundred percent certain. And when
she threw the third time is when she was gonna
like hook it and then get out, because that just
like is a classic thing, the rule of three, whatever
you want to call it, it's always the third time
when the thing when it goes right. But it didn't,
and she just like fell more and more and you
could like it was the mud closing in. You can
barely see her eyes anymore. Gets it one more time
and nails it. So I I thought the tension of
that scene was just fantastic and that was cool because
that was just like, you know, there's no other creatures
in there, there's no predator related in that scene. It
was just really well shot, really well paced and music
and all that stuff. Also the way the music like
as her ears went under the mud and the sound
like just got muffled like just amazing, like really really
well shot scene and once again like very authentic, like
that was not I don't know how you would do
like cgi mud bath like that, but whatever they actually
did for the effects on that looked fantastic. It seems
like someone scouted out like a safe mud bottle that
she could actually do that scene in and she just
nailed it because it looked really good. So shout us
to that scene as well.
Speaker 1: I'd especially be safe for if any dude in a
predator caution went in there and you're gonna make it
out right. Oh don't worry, Jim, completely safe. Uh, let's
take in an ad break today before you start to
slugin over more predators, so we'll be right back and
we're back. Sokay, what were you going to mention?
Speaker 3: I just wanted to kind of go back to where
you're talking about that fight scene in the fog. There
there was the brief starting point where the guys are
on horseback and they using Nehru and her brother is
bait on the tree and the two guys with their
rifles and the binoculars looking out at them, and you
just see the guys just fall off, like with your
perpheral vision out behind them, off the horses. It was
just so subtle, and I was like blank, like holy shit,
like is this actually going down, Like it's just it happened.
And then yeah, the guys turn around, they're like freaking out,
and like oh god, oh god. Now I didn't I
didn't understand like fully what all the dialogue was because
it's going really really quick, and the English dub didn't
I had subtitles on. It didn't translate it to English.
It just kept it as French subtitles, even though I
said it to English subtitles, so.
Speaker 1: You should built French.
Speaker 3: I'm not, you know, I'm not full French.
Speaker 1: But.
Speaker 3: I wish that there was some serious dialogue that was
going on that I wish I could have picked up
on and kind of learned, so my next watch that
I'm going to properly see if I can dissect that.
Speaker 4: See, I actually really liked the use of there being
three separate languages in here, and like, I don't know,
I didn't turn any subtitles on. There was just certain
seen like any scene with the frenchmen or when they're
speaking command she usually it's like they would just splice
English and Commandchi lines together. But to me, all of
it worked, like I didn't feel I felt like the
context was portrayed through just the acting and the context
of the scene. So I don't feel like when whenever
there was a you know, non English scene that I
didn't know what was going on. I need more context.
Now I understand why you want to do that, because
you probably get a few more lines of like some
good you know, information out of that. But I got
to like commend the movie for I feel like blending
these languages together and making a cohesive story without for
me like not having a single subtitle. It totally worked
and I felt like I got all the characters and
what they were, what they were trying to portray in
each scene.
Speaker 1: Well, and on Dylan's point, and I don't believe this
is one hundred percent because there's so many films that
I think are like dialogue is key, but something that is,
like all the best type of films are the ones
you could watch on mute and understand what's going on.
And I think maybe other than some dialogue at the beginning,
you could watch this movie on mute and pick up
the themes and what their plot is, you know. And
like I said, I don't think that because you're gonna
tell me I want to mute a Tarantino movie. Absolutely not.
That's like that's the bread and butter right there. I
don't want to do that. So but that idea of
even if you could watch, if you could not understand
anything they were saying, I think this movie would have
worked because I think all the actors do a good
job with their facials, but you get the idea even
at the beginning with the hunt and disappointment looks. So
I think that's I think it does kind of add
to that. So I like that as well, that we
don't always have to completely understand what's going on because
it's just at the end of the day, it's it's
them versus a big alien, you know. That's what's the
key goal is. And I like how they go back
and forth with them, like when she finds all those
I think it was the bulls that were pelted at first,
regular device the s buffle of thing. Yeah, And that's
where it's like at first, you're just when you first
see this, like oh, do the predator do this, and like,
oh no, it was you know these guys. And that's
where it's like you would think from their perspective, all
anything that they see them might just say, oh, it's
a pelter. Now they're not thinking it is for sure,
Like yeah, there's whispers, but that's like there's always whispers
of a nightmare monster. So I like they played that
angle well and all those pelters got really fucked up too,
so that was a good thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I just adding on to what Dylan said
about the usage of the three different languages. I thought
it was. I thought it was really well done. And
anytime that they used like an actual like commanche word
or like phrase or something, I felt like especially when
it was used like every time she would talk to
her dog, it was just like a very clear command.
So it was like obvious to the viewer of what's
actually being spoken there. And then when they didn't like
trans translate the French, I did like it because like
from her perspective, like she doesn't know French, so it's
like it's just these foreigners speaking on like a foreign language.
And I did really like that. And I had somebtitles
on as well, so I liked that it was still
in French so if the viewer could like could read that,
you know, they could still follow. So that was that
was all good good there. And yeah, like initially, because
I had like the Commanche version on, I I thought
I was gonna be able to just like totally stick
with it because earlier on in the movie she was
just saying like really quick things actually in like the
Comanche language in both versions of the film. But then
when it got back to like the the longer dialogue,
it was just kind of bothering me when the when
the lips weren't sinking up. But I didn't know. I
think s Pub said in the chat you guys probably knew,
but the voice actor or yeah, the voice actor that
dubbed it was actually the like actors herselves. Yeah, so
I didn't know that. I'll uh changes my opinion. Maybe
I'll have to rewatch it on the COMMANDI.
Speaker 4: Version, right, I mean this the voice of the dubbing
would still like because they're.
Speaker 2: Every times out as sync, mostly with.
Speaker 4: Them speaking English.
Speaker 2: So yeah, in a perfect world they would have done
two versions. But that's a that's a tough ask.
Speaker 4: I wonderful ever, be like somewhere in tech where they
can just like edit that and look like not I
think like maybe ten fifteen years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think things like I don't not saying this
because I'm watching it currently, but things like how Squid
Game blew up on Netflix and like you can know
whether you watch subs or dubs, Like if more foreign
content and blows up in North America, I think that
will be a thing. They will start to figure that out.
So I don't don't think it's off the path. So yeah,
we want to go to next or shout out next anywhere.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean we were kind of just talking about
Amber mid mid Thunder. I want to just like, you know,
we've praised Tom Hardy a lot on this podcast for
his eye acting. She conveys so much with I mean
her facial action in general, but like her eyes just
tell so much about how she's feeling where she's at
in a moment to moment basis. I thought she was
fantastic and even just little things too, like obviously they
throw a lot of face paint on her throw throughout
this movie, and it kind of it's usually darker, and
it kind of draws your gaze to her eyes once again,
so you're like focusing on this and giving her the
opportunity to like just deliver these not even lines, but
just deliver these moments through just her eye acting. So
I am just like incredibly impressed with her performance here
for what is like a movie that's like mostly an
action movie about like a badass predator character. Like, she
shines so well and I'm very excited to see her
in more things. Mind Hunter as next on my list.
But no, she's great. So I know we've already talked
about her somewhat, but just had to really praise her,
especially with those eyes, like, oh, justled it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree. I feel like the as you mentioned,
like the war paint that she had, it just it
just drew like so much attention to it. And it
also just adds into what Travis was saying that like
you really could watch this movie on mute, just because
like her bit like her face just portrays so much
and it says so much without actually saying anything herself.
Speaker 1: So and this is like a little bit do with her.
But to me, one of the most badass images from
this franchise overall now is her bringing back the predator
head with the predator's blood, because that's like a thing
they do and that culture is showing I've like destroyed
one conquered this enemy coming back with the glowing blood.
And again, I imagine what that tribe would be thinking.
You just think it's a normal day.
Speaker 2: And she was that color before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I never seen that color before and never seen
that abywhary. You would just pay and you would believe
her in that moment she says, we gotta go, but
yeah we got we gotta pick up camp and everything.
But you know, uh yeah, I look very forward to
next year to drafting her so everyone could just don't
worry about leave her alone. But no, I, like I said,
I had seen her in Legion and Legion she had
not a similar role, but a role where she had
less dialogue. As the show went on, she got more
and more. But I think this is a thing where
feels a little similar to Arnold, where I think this
is gonna be more breakout for her. There's sometimes movies
and shows where there's just a performance that happens and
you'll get a lot of people and I was just
looking at IMDb. I guess she's a part of the
show right now. But if that ends, I think there'll
be a lot of people that are like, oh, did
you ever have you seen prey in her performance? Because
she there's lots of great stuffs going on, but she
really anchors that. And I think we've seen it before
where if you get a lower tier actor or actress
that can just kind of be like she added a
lot to the movie when it could have just been
a fine person like, oh, you just gotta fight the predator,
that's all you need to do, but she raised it.
So I do think we will, and I don't even
saying like eyepiece stuff, just in general, you'll start seeing
her and like you know, when we had like Knives
Out and those type of ensemble pieces, like she's gonna
be somebody that I can just see is like starting
to be added to these things where it's like you
have the stat cast and Amber's also in it. You know.
It's just so I'm I'm excited to see where she
goes from here and whatnot.
Speaker 4: So all right, so quick note on what you're saying
with the bringing the bringing the head back with the
with the glowing blood, like once again, like I talked
about how well, like just the nature and the green
leaves and trees and all that really popped. But to
even have like yeah, this other green that popped even
more just stood out really well. And I thought the
visuals are all that were really good, Like I can
definitely see you guys are coming from on shaking the
c give the animals. But I mean when it comes
to the Predator itself, I think they really nailed it,
especially like some of the invisibility stuff when the blood
is just pouring down and stuff like all all that
stuff look great and I really liked, I mean just
the visual of the the you know, the glow stick blood.
I thought it was a.
Speaker 2: Lot of fun. Say yeah, I feel like just going
through the Predator retro with like each each more recent movie,
I would I would always shout out of just like
his thermal vision just looking better and better, and man,
this one is just this is the best it's ever
Like when you first saw the wolf, that was just
like all the details that looks so good. It's funny
because this is like the most primitive predator that we've
seen on film. But uh, you know, like all the
visuals with him looked fantastic, and I think it helped
so much that they did have like a practical actor
in the suit I saw. Apparently he's like six foot
nine too, just like a huge player.
Speaker 3: I think too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3: So he was he's a former.
Speaker 4: NBA player, but NBA.
Speaker 1: He's NBA related the Predator, like thet Pretator playing on
the Lakers next year. They kicked him out. He's a
little too rough on the court.
Speaker 4: That Olympian apparently look at that.
Speaker 3: Oh damn the Predators.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to but I can't get the answer.
Speaker 1: I want a career, you wanna you wanna gold medal,
and you also get to be the preditor. That's fucking
awesome like that dude's.
Speaker 4: In twenty nineteen, he retired from professional basketball to pursue there.
Speaker 1: So there you go, and it worked out. He's the
killing it, yeah, literally killing him yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also like hit with with his blood. I
feel like, I don't know, like there there's been I
feel like, previous versions where it's looked like more radioactive,
but this one it just looked it just looked really good,
and especially when it was just like covered in her
I liked how also like looking back in the like
a promotional poster where it's like replacing that warpaint that
she had like under her eyes. Such a sweet shot. Oh,
I love it.
Speaker 1: And I was nothing that I want to say worried,
but the promo posters had it all over. I was
wondering how they're going to use the blood, and I
thought it was used really well as far as just
tracking and stuff like that. And there were a few
times where I wondered he would get like bit by
the dog and he would be bleeding and then he
went like the the shield went back on. The blood
was just kind of gone. I think that was like
a little inconsistency for me. Now they do show in
the middle all him like doing the med kit pack
and everything like that, but there's times where I feel
like there could have been a trail earlier on. But uh, yeah,
between the thermal the med kit, which I know Kirklan
you hated in the first one. That's looking much better
and then that looking much better. Yeah, the invisibility we
talk about predators were look good. But yeah, the first
few movies it always that translucent thing effect looked as
good as it could for the eighties, you know, like
it all, but it always stood out. It's like this
doesn't work like it works like you suspend your disbelief,
but here it just worked pitch perfect with like how
you would see and how you wouldn't things like that.
Speaker 3: So one of the other thing I want to note
about the Preader's technology, the wolf skull that he got,
it was always a cool thing, like we got to
see him like a pr and stuff like that when
they're like cleaning the skulls and stuff. And then Preader too,
it's the same thing cleaning the skulls and this he
just sprays. I'm assuming it's this probably the same product
that he was using on his body to like seal
up his wounds, because it was just like that goes
seiling away like and just retracting and melting the different though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's spraying that on his body, like oh,
it was like a hotterizing spray. You just hear this.
Speaker 4: It's like when missus doubt fire's on fire?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's that? No, I feel like it's a different
tool that one.
Speaker 3: But I just took it as like a cauterizing spray
all around. He was just like dousing the skull.
Speaker 1: I took it as like an acid, like an instat acid.
And I thought it was so cool because when he
wrapped the head off and it still had like the head,
I was like, what they gonna do with the skull?
And it reminded me of just like a little effect
in Force Wakens. Remember when Ray like made that bread
and it was really cool, like just a moment that
you don't even need the movie, but she's like a
fun show Like, oh, like same thing as this is
a I didn't need it fully explained in my mind, though,
I was like, oh, I wonder what you do with that.
They didn't have to do that, but it was just
a nice little thing. Oh, he has the spray. That's
just like part of his cleaning routine for his trophies,
and it's gonna melt off any excess skin material. I
was like, that's awesome, Like that's just something they thought
out and it just like enhances the lower a little
bit better. Because now anytime in the future when I
think about other pread in movies, like, oh, that's how
he does it. He has this little spray does that
and he gets he gets rid of the materials.
Speaker 3: Well, it's been different ways too, right, Like in the
first prior of movie, you see him like sucking like
the gut set of the skull, and the second movie
you see that like connect their tubes and sucking stuff up.
In AVPr it's sneak because you see like the skull
and he's got this laser that he's just shining on
the actual bone and it's just peeling the skin back.
So it's cool how they have these different ways of
doing what is what is the importance of this thing?
Because I felt like when he was doing that, there
was something more I should have been understanding, Like a skull.
It looks cool, yeah, but like I don't have the history.
I don't know what I'm missing. It's just trophies. That's
why you see him like hook it onto his belt.
It's just a rite of passage kind of thing. So
biggest trophies, more respect that you can command sort of thing.
I see yeah, worthy opponents, you could say.
Speaker 4: I had. And then I mean he was always ripping
out the spines of things. What's like, why is that?
Does there a reason?
Speaker 1: Just a trophy?
Speaker 4: They just like like the bones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get not on the first one, but the
second one. It was just when they got on the ship,
it's just lots of heads with spines, head with spines.
I think it's just aesthetically, it's like, oh this, we
like the look of this when they made the films.
But yeah, that's just like their trophies is the head
and the spines and stuff like that. Yeah, I would laughter.
He came back from Earth with just the bunny one,
like yeah, big successful hunt here on Earth. They're like, yeah,
what you got and.
Speaker 3: Like it's dangerous on this planet.
Speaker 1: Put up a huge fight. You wouldn't believe it. It
was hard to catch him. He's quick.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I got my notes, but I got a
couple other things. One then we just somewhat touched on this.
We talked about how they're kind of going up the
food chain until they fight each other. But I like that.
We also see other just prey predator interactions start this movie,
Like at the start with the snake and the rat.
That was fun. And then the bear, Like when we
get in truce to the bear, he's eating a deer
or something, some sort of creature like that, and then
let's go ahead to it.
Speaker 3: I just want to say that scene with the bear.
I don't know, I've been playing Skyrim a lot lately,
and I just got like PTSD when the bear came
up around the hill and like flanked her. I've been
in that situation.
Speaker 4: You just gotta download the dog mod that dog will
run away and you know, the bear from me, and
then and then the lion as well. Uh, the lion
was I guess had captured one of their tribe members
and that was the interaction there. So I don't know
if I'm missing anybody. I like that. We saw just
a lot of these kind of nature doc moments. Obviously
it's all CGIs, that's not quite nature docky, but once
again just seeing these kinds of interactions on a small scale,
and most of those were kind of early on in
the movie before we got to like, you know, the
predator fucking people up and seeing him uninvised and stuff
like that. So I liked those touches throughout I think
it kind of built up the tension, and obviously the
predator is always relevant. He's kind of tracking those things,
following them around, and presumably you know, seeing one creature
destroy another one kind of gets them off right. He's like, oh,
that's a that's an that's an enemy. I want to
be better than that.
Speaker 3: As I saw what the wolf, he saw it happen,
He's like, oh, and the wolf to backhands it, and
the wolf's ready.
Speaker 4: To go, like, yeah, that poor wolf too, and then
like the classic five seconds later, shot all the guts
spill out.
Speaker 1: Oh and put up a fight. Though you know, I
respect the wolf square like the fight. It bit the ankle,
it pushed it away and then took out the swords.
And the wolf's like, no, let's fucking go. I'm gonna
do this. And I thought he had him for a
second because it was like what happened?
Speaker 3: He like, you know, he was predator then the.
Speaker 1: Wolf. Yeah, but no, I liked that the wolf, though
he tried his best story, you know that was that was.
Speaker 3: A cool reoccurring thing too. It was when you see
these prey animals, like you're talking about Dylan and the Predator,
you can tell is just stand there cloaked, and then
it's like a sudden realization where these wild predators are
just kind of like looking around trying to like kind
of hone in with their senses, like the snake. The
snake caught on like okay, there's something right.
Speaker 4: There and then had no idea that was fucking clueless.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. But yeah, very cool. And there was
that beginning shots too. I think SPO's mentioned the chat
earlier when it's just like this ant crawling and then
it crawls up onto the predator. It's like shit. Just
these cool little like cinematic moments were very visually appealing.
Speaker 4: So what didn't the ant get eaten by the rat?
Is that what started at?
Speaker 3: I don't remember what happened to the ant still on
the predator.
Speaker 4: I think that's what happened. I think the rat ate
the ant, and then the snake ate the rat, and
then the predator ate the snake. That chain of events
a thirty seconds chose a bigger fish.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I I really just getting back to the bear
fight scene. I like how they showcase just like the
ferocity of this like huge bear, like it actually like
fucked up the predator for a moment, and then the
predator kind of gets up and then when the bear
like full charges at the predator, he just like bitch
slaps it basically and just like kills it right then
and there like oh so epic. And then when he
picks it up like again, it just it just showcase
how ferocious this thing is. And like by that point
it's still invisible, just covered in blood and fucked like no,
like you would just be thinking you're seeing a ghost, right,
like like like what is this thing? Like that's so strong?
It's picking up like the strongest creature that we've ever seen.
Like the bears are just the apex predator, right, and
you see this thing just pick it up over its
shoulder like it's nothing getting acimated. Oh the showcase you
of that was was fantastic.
Speaker 1: I get her visuals too, just her reaction to that
going on with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah she's and yeah exactly. She just goes in the
water and just like get the fuck out of there. Whatever,
I don't care if I'm going down like a rapid,
I gotta get away from this thing. It goes like
the preadtor's vision, he just sees her like clear as day,
it's just like, oh, yeah, there goes the human.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the same too.
Speaker 3: When she's running away from the two guys that got
fucked up and she meets her comrade in the in
the grass and it's like, oh, I got them. It
goes to prediate, you see the red fucking it was like.
Speaker 2: A fucking hacker.
Speaker 1: This guy's a called duty moment where the sniper that
you watched the replay and like you thought you had them,
they had un your scupes way longer before, Like, oh.
Speaker 2: They don't know I'm here.
Speaker 1: He's broken. He ain't broken.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: See, I think I mentioned all my particular things to
shout out.
Speaker 2: I think I said it in the non spoilers, but
just all the costume designs, like it just it looked
all the all the details that they had. It's just
like fantastic. I just wanted to reiterate that because they
did such a good job with with all the those
aspects of it.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, no, I agree, Oh go ahead, I.
Speaker 4: Got I got a couple more things here, Okay. So
we talked a lot about some of the ways she
kind of overcame the predator in the Another thing too,
was with the gun. I like that it was kind
of like the one moment I felt like in this
movie where the pace slowed down when she was learning
how to use the gun from the guy. She was
kind of patching them up, and I like that, you know,
she was actively listening to him trying to learn, and
you know, I love that she fucked it up when
she first tried to use the gun, and then you know,
she had to adjust put more gunpowder in there, and
then got it right the next time. I just love
that in movies when your protagonist, your hero is fucking up,
but then you know they pull through in the end,
and you know, it would make sense that, like this
gun is a very advanced technology tool compared to what
they are using. So for her to just nail it
on the first try, get a headshot and it for
to be over with, I think would have been too easy.
So I liked that she had to mess it up
once before she got it right. Also kind of a
little thing when she's first going hunting, like at the beginning,
when she's just trying to catch that rabbit, she's doing
like these power slides into trees and stuff.
Speaker 1: Very man. I kept the whole time I was.
Speaker 4: Like, man, and I mean, those were fun shots, but
I feel like it was interesting because it would always
be it would always be the like she would lose
all her doing that, you know, like it would be
the final move in her final trick in her tool
belt whatever you want to say, their final tool in
her tool belt. But then near the end of the movie,
she's like jumping off trees in kind of that same
way where she's like almost sliding into them and then
like leaping off them and continuing. And that's also I
think when she bits the predator into like those spikes
that she sets up in the tree as well by
using that trick. So I like that we kind of
saw that the evolution of that particular move traps. You
just mentioned this, but like often throw this movie. I
was like, man, I just want a fucking video game
of this. I want to go crafting to collect things,
build up my gear. I want to like challenge this
predator in the right way after I set up some traps.
Like I just want this game now, Like this would
be so cool. I know we've had a lot of
Predator games, but I think something that's like a smaller
open world thing with kind of crafting and stuff like
that could be a very cool game. And to touch
on a couple of the survivally things that I liked
about this that Kirklan mentioned earlier. I really liked the
kind of forging for plants that happens like many times
in this for different kinds of plants, Like there's the
ones for medicinal purposes, but then obviously the one that
lowers the I don't know if it was lower in
the heart rate or the body temperature. I think Taylor
said body temperature. I guess those maybe are kind of
the same thing.
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I took it as almost both, just
just because like the predators couldn't track them, which I
wanted to shout the scene where he was teaching, or
to use the gun man that I love the predators
stepping on his leg to be like, yeah, something's up here,
and just and that guy just screamed like, oh, it's
over for you. But I just loved that baiting of
just you know, because for a while when he looked
it's like okay, I thought it acted maybe a little
too fast for the predator to not like he had
just consumed it. And the predator shows about thirty seconds
there and already like low heartbeat, low tempature like this.
Speaker 4: I don't really saw that with her too at the end, right,
so we have seen it more than once. I know
what you mean.
Speaker 1: Some great drugs.
Speaker 4: I guess at least they were consistent with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, true, But I love the Predator just you know,
just sneaking that out, just okay, I'm gonna step in
those guys like just to check and yeah, unfortunately you're
there's no way you're gonna withhold this pain and screen
from that so really good and just grow shots off
her just like touching the bone and touch it everything.
It's like, man, I could not have been there.
Speaker 2: Oh man, the rats fuck.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: We see at the very start of the movie she's
like sharpening her axe, and then later she's kind of
doing the same thing. She's preparing those traps. I like that.
I love that scene when they find their their buddy
who had been attacked by the lion, and then they
all just get to work to build a stretcher out
of materials that are around. Like that was so much
fun and it felt very authentic. I don't know how
thatic it truly is, but it felt like it, and
then you know we've kind of mentioned it, but like
the grappling hook acts just so cool, like just so
much fun. And you know, we kind of get the
training scene when she's going back and forth attacking the
two trees, and you know when you see that that
it's gonna come up again later. And we kind of
seen it in a couple different ways. One she uses
it on the Frenchman to like fuck up two of
them at once, kind of thing. I really like that, uh,
and then we also kind of get it in that
final fight scene in a couple different ways as the
dog brings it around and then she wraps it around,
pulls a great combo so yeah, great combo attack. And
then yeah, that kind of leads into my final point,
which was just that, you know, Sonny the dog I saw.
The dog's real name is Coco. Shouts to Coco. Great actor,
did fantastic in this movie. Nailed every scene and of
course just brings a lot of heart to it. And
also you're so worried whenever that dog runs off screen.
You're like, oh shit, is that the last time I
saw it? I hope not.
Speaker 1: So. Shout outs to Coco, especially at one point the
dog was in the crosshairs of the boat like arm
and I thought it was over. I'm like, oh, this
is the finale. It's just gonna be her Vy. Yeah,
it's over for you dog, and it's just gonna be
her Vey predator. But no, he survived.
Speaker 3: So look out for all the game and just whack
that dude in the head.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so look oute for golden Geeks. That dog
best supporting actors.
Speaker 4: Well, I legitially wrote it down like it's a meme,
but like I'm doing it, I'm gonna throw it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was worried for the dog. I even with the
wolf scene, I feel like they could have made that
wolf just look a lot bigger and ferocious. It was
a little too, a little too looking like a dog
for my game.
Speaker 1: These I swear you guys said wolf. I thought it
was a fox or like a fox likes watched that scene.
Speaker 2: That's where I had I think they had like an
actual dog initially, and then when it got into the
fight scene it was a c GI creature. Because like
at first, it looked a lot better when it was
than when it was actually interacting with the predator. I
found I might have to rewatch to really determine that, but.
Speaker 4: They just sick a dog on the Predator actor and
they're like, guys, get.
Speaker 2: The gold medalists and the shot.
Speaker 3: He said something, and I don't have to counter what
you said. There, you're coming Dan track Trackenberg because I
used to last was playing Horizon and loved the music
and hired the composers. Maybe he got inspired by that. Well,
fun fact for you, that is a lie actually playing
Do you want to only Assassin s Creed Valhalla? And
that's the composer Sarah Shackner.
Speaker 1: I'm so mad. S Bubbs is wrong about this one
on so many levels because I liked the Horizon story
much better because I was like, man, let's get let's
get Dan to do the Horizon show over the Horizon
composers is good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, damn, there you go. Sorry, S Bubs
can't win them all.
Speaker 2: It's all good.
Speaker 4: It's not too often that you can best S Bubs
on like googling things.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, Taylor, you mentioned some easter eggs. Did you
want to talk about anything that you had? But I
know you shout out the gun? Did you want to
talk about that quickly?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So this is obviously the gun that is working
away with in the movie. Now, for all you Predator
fans out there, if you've seen Predator two or recognize
or right respect, Yeah, there's this fancy little pistol right
here at that our main character, uh, Lieutenant Harrigan gets
given to him by none other than this out there
predator here, none other.
Speaker 4: So, man, that predator on the left, Like, did you
just get smacked with a frying pan or something like?
Speaker 3: Look at that hen a few frying pans. Yeah, but yeah,
so you have an interesting set up here where obviously
mister Farrell here got his fucking head blown off by
that pistol, and now she has the pistol. So what's
gonna happen?
Speaker 2: What are we getting predators?
Speaker 3: Or are these guys gonna come to town and just
fuck them up? Like it doesn't I know that they're
alluding to. And like the NC and s bubs, here's
that shot that we were mentioning. This is that final
clip here where you see like the three ships and
then her down below she's got the war chief staff
and like the tribe, it doesn't really make at least
in my Hey Kennon sense for predators like oh, a
predator died on a hunt or we're going to go
to war against you guys. That that's not really boys. Yeah,
it's like if you failed on a hunt, you failed
on a hunt. That's your fault.
Speaker 1: But you've said, what the what could there be more
of these feral type of predators right like this this
branding up brand this species of them. What if they
but what if they are like that though, this species
where they're very true and.
Speaker 3: That could be the case. And I'm just saying, like,
if we get a call ay of these feral fuckers
coming around and they're just like, you know what, you
killed our NBA player, We're gonna come and we're gonna.
Speaker 1: Wipe people medalists, gold goal medalist. Well but you you
would assume though, because she still has that gun, that
they if you were to do a sequel, that she
would have to die of that gun would have to
be taken because that gun gets taken to the nineties,
right it does.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so if these come in, well, if these guys
come in and like do a fight against.
Speaker 1: The fer like what if what if this is where
the pharaoh goes there and they lose again and then
these patters like you know, these people, we should actually
go test out because they're taking out a lot of
like even if it's another truck, they're taking out a
lot of our species.
Speaker 3: That's brand.
Speaker 1: And what happens if and here's your big jump to
or what happens if the predator that Arnold meets is
the predator that kills the like this tribe of people
and stuff like that. You know, like what if that
species of predator does go back and kills them, they're successful.
All the paral ones are not successful.
Speaker 3: Well, it's totally possible. I mean, at the end of
the day, they could really do whatever they want. The
only thing I know of story wise right now is
the one that Arnold meets. That's a predator that's been
for generations just residing in like the I think, like
the not the Vietnam border around that.
Speaker 1: Area of the world, the generations he just stayed there.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I remember, like the main female protecting us
is talking about how like yeah, just the summers, this
thing would always come around killing the men and everything
like that, and predators live for hundreds of years. That's
another component too, so of course, of course, of course, yeah, yeah,
let's see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I suppose it's right, isn't that what they
did in Preyer too? The Preda died and the whole
school squad pulled up. They did. It's a very weird scene,
but it's not out of the realm. It is weird
because they just start pop and updil and they're just likes.
Speaker 3: They only popped up because, I mean, Harrigan was in
their ship. I mean, it's not even hide like you
killed our boy and our ship. I mean.
Speaker 1: But again, I think that that is smart of them
saying that this is like kind of a different species,
because they might act a different way, right, so they
might hold a grudge.
Speaker 3: So and I'm definitely on opposed to that. I mean,
you got the other ones that they don't go to
your planet, they take you to their planet, and these
guys just maybe they do.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Plus also if this is in what was seventeen
hundred and then the first time we meet Arnold's, you know,
in nineteen eighty seven, that's over two hundred years, so
their tactics could have changed as well too, you know,
because you don't have an origin point for the predator
and their first thing, so maybe like you know, what
we can't take things so personal. You know, if you do,
maybe this starts that maybe maybe it happens, is this
one dies and a whole Yeah, but maybe dies a
whole tribe goes there and dies, Like yeah, we should
stop doing It's like in the future, if you die
in a hunt, that's it. It's over. So that could
be the start of it. You know, there's lots of
room to play if they wanted to, or they could
just don't here and like, yeah, we're just gonna do
a sequel.
Speaker 2: Let's get us, give us the politics movie.
Speaker 1: At the Senate just like, yeah, told him to go there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what about the joid attack or the roid?
Speaker 3: What about the South or Central America? Not Vietnam?
Speaker 2: So there you go.
Speaker 1: Maybe he starts here and he moves over to South
Central America, you know.
Speaker 3: So well they keep dying in vacation. That's the problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anything else to shout out.
Speaker 3: I have one other thing.
Speaker 2: I he had like his wrists bomb that he has
in like all the movies, but it like it was
like a multi bomb. That was so cool and I
love even just like the shop when it goes in
the air and you just see the lights go off.
Speaker 1: Oh that one that just brung up to that like
would cut people too.
Speaker 2: It was like, oh yeah, that was deadly. And then
we we got that one line too, as Chris shodowed earlier,
if it bleeds, we can kill it, Travis feel not good.
Speaker 1: I don't like it because it's Dylan. That's a line
for that's what Arnold says in the original one, and
every Predator.
Speaker 2: Every movie they got to have these lines every.
Speaker 1: Movie like Predator two has you ugly motherfucker, and then
Predators has the come on kill me, I'm here do it.
And I thought she was gonna do that at one
point because when he was in the mud, She's like
come on, and I'm like, oh no, but she just
want him to set forward. I thought she was gonna
do that, kill me. I'm here, like stop it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just speaking arnold accent. Kill me.
Speaker 1: Even when you watch, even when you want even when
you watch the Komachi version, it's still in Arnold's voice,
completely English, like come on, kill me. But no, I
just I've said this before that I don't like the
big examples is obviously noy home when willing to focus
is something scientists myself, right, I don't mind when the
same character says it in another context somewhere else, because
we do that with each other, where we say lines
of stuff. I just hate the This is literally two
hundred years later and characters are saying the exact same
lines to the predators, like if it leads, it can
kill it. So yeah, I didn't need that. It's a
I liked the gun like easter Egg. I didn't need
the line easter Egg. But they just do that.
Speaker 4: So I first generic enough all the line for me
that I mean, I also don't have the real lows
of like pulling that line out of my predator knowledge
because they don't have it there. But so you know,
my points are relevant because this is the first time
I've heard the line anyway. So yeah, take me out
of this.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say too, like I going forward with
because I'm assume we're gonna be getting more Predator movies
and stuff. I am curious that they do kind of pray, Yeah,
we're in the preise sphere now we got rid of
the predators of like I feel like in the well
just even going through the retros and in this movie
it even happened again of just it seems like they
have these checklist of things that they just have to
cross off to like call it a preader movie. We
gotta have the first aid scene, you know, you gotta
have like the callback line. And I'm curious if they
kind of stick to that form of moving forward, because
there there is new things like with each new movie,
but still like they just have this formula that like
going forward, Am I gonna be like, Oh, I haven't
seen the first aid scene yet? And then oh, no,
there it is. You know, you can make like a
bingo game out of it. I kind of hope that
isn't the case moving forward, just because it's happened so
many times.
Speaker 1: But Es says in the presser, they say you're one
beautiful motherfucker, And I almost kind of like that a
bit better because of the plan on that. Do you
remember an a VP one or two. Do they have
any predator ripped off lines? I'm sure those movies that
are barrel have to do that, right, They must have
some callback line they.
Speaker 3: With the predators, like seeing the faces. I just watched
them like not too long ago. They didn't actually say
any of those lines like you're one ugly motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Because any predator lines, not that specific line, just any.
Speaker 3: Of them kills Chopper, No, none of that. Most of
the derogatory terms were directed at the a Xeno Mors,
not really any predators.
Speaker 1: The directors were a fan of the aliens more than that. Yeah, uh,
but anything else.
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say for like context. I just
thought it was interesting because to now have more insight
into that pistol for all you uh, predator officionados out there.
So this is a comic book that they put out
just to kind of cover the history on that pistol.
And this is Raphael Adelini here and he basically in
the comics, he suffers a mutiny because there's his treasure
and this preader sees that, and the preader ends up
helping him survive this mutiny. And that's that predator. There
is the older predator and predator too that gives the
gun to Lieutenant Harrigan. So this is a cool storyline
they did in the comic books. But again the comic
books kind of canon and predator stuff, not at all
the books everything. It's such a widespread like story. Uh,
it's just crazy. I like what they're doing here because
now you have other movies and the Predator verse that
have focused always back on that original with Arnold where
it's like, hey, there was a Guatemala. I think, oh yeah,
Guatemala was actually where it was. I just got to
recount the quotes and that's how I can remember where
it is, Guatemala and like eighty two or something like that,
and then that's what they always reference in these films
going forwards. Now we have a film referencing specifically, not that,
but hey, Predator too, And I think that's super fantastic
because these subtle little easter eggs, whether it be the
Predator and you have an AVP reference in there, or
you have Predators referencing in the first film, It's just
nice to have this continuously building world. Now. The other
thing I wanted to comment on too. You mentioned that
there was this specific weapon after you mentioned the bomb Kirkland.
Then you mentioned it Travis. Were you talking about that
like loose like whip thing that like turned like remember
like those slapstick bracelets where it's like extended and they're
like whips. Is that what you were referring to?
Speaker 1: Well, there was two Well yeah, yeah, I was at
some point, But there's two she got that he used
this weapon, but that was that what came out, because
at one point something came up met on like shot
out a bunch and cut people down. I don't know
if that was the exact same one because those looked like.
Speaker 3: Bigger pieces that was wasn't that the bomb? Then let
he left there and then the three discs came up
and they like shot it.
Speaker 1: Was something like not because I know crookand was someone
when they zoomed out and they just showed the lights
of it. But I thought we saw like a visual
of it and stuff to look because it was in
that middle scene where just like he was throwing down
a bunch of like he was Batman. I want to
see Batman dead End for people. Go YouTube Batman dead End.
It's a great fan film of Batman versus the Predator.
And I still want to see that in real life
because the amount of gadgets they had.
Speaker 3: But hm, I will say that that I know you're
trying to use.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's finally like you're going, but you paused.
I was like, okay, here we go. Last I got
one more, one more.
Speaker 3: When they were all throwing down those those French chops,
and they got the upper the French chaps. They got
the upper hand briefly because the predator was walking and
he stepped in that one track and he fell and
his shoulder landed in another trap and they threw that
net on him, and then they were just obviously they
were drunk or some they were cocky because that one French,
one French guy that was like smiling like, oh yeah,
you know, we got him, and then just the grist
blade just shreaming up into him. And the way the
predator like levitated up it was like Chris Angels style
if you guys rewatched that scene, Like he doesn't like
do a flip up or a jump up. He literally
just levitates up forwards. It's truly majestic, truly majestic.
Speaker 1: Love that well Dilma's found thoughts.
Speaker 4: On uh prey oh man. Yeah, I don't know. I
don't feel like I've kind of said at all. I
love this movie. It was a lot of fun. I'm
quite surprised by how much I enjoyed this one. And yeah,
I could see myself you're watching this one a few
times in my life, like this is a good it's
a good classic film. It isn't classic as the kids say.
So uh, yep, I liked it.
Speaker 2: It's great. I love your reviews. Yeah, I really really
really liked this movie. I'm curious if, like how my
feelings of it's like ebbs or flows on more on
more watches, because I think again, just highlighting those those
scenes of just like the Comanche stuff, it was just
so fun to see and just her traversing like through
the beautiful Canadian landscape the Rockies got it just look gorgeous.
I loved it. So that was that was fantastic, and
all the Predator stuff it was, it was fantastic. And
you know, this one's called prey, but still Predator's a
big element of it. So I think they did a
really good job with that usage. And uh and like
also I think they they did a really good job
at giving it some of that horror element that like
Predator movies they're not they're not horror films, but like
it's a terrifying situation that some of these characters find
themselves in, and I think this movie really showcased that
really good with just like the tension and like Dylan
shouted out that that mud scene, like that even that
was just like building of the tension, and the predator
wasn't even in that sequence, right, but it was still
just like on edge of her just constantly missing those throws.
And yeah, like like just a really good usage of
the building that tension. So shouts out to the director
and all that stuff. I think I'm gonna give this
one an eight point five out of ten. I think
it was a fantastic movie. I Like I said, I
think if they try to do maybe a little more
practical things, like I get it, you can't just like
train a bear to wrestle this gold medalist.
Speaker 3: They didn't.
Speaker 4: They didn't semi pro.
Speaker 2: But like I just feel like those things are gonna
make it like rewatching, Like justugh, it's just a little
messy here. And like I think with like the panther
or the cougar, the lot the whatever was hunting them,
the lion thing because it was nighttime, it helped a lot,
But that bears sequence when it was in the day,
just like running at our protagonists, it just looked really
messy in my eyes. So that's kind of where I'm
docking it some points there. But yeah, all in all,
fantastic film.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm happy that I have another Predator film
to absolutely love. I always liked various degrees with the
other ones, but the first one was always the gold
standard as far as okay, I can watch this one.
The rest are kind of be as close to but
this is something in that same camp but completely different.
I think the director of the crew that cast did
a great job. I'm a nine out of ten on
this one, and a lot harder than I thought I
was gonna be, but I really enjoyed it, and just
even talking about I think I'll probably be watching again
soon is just it's just easy watch, but enjoyable watch.
So yeah, I'm I'm very happy, and I hope this
is kinda breathe some fresh life in the franchise. And
I don't know if that also means you need Dan
back for that, because I think he did a great job,
and he's now taken like two franchises with Cloverfield and
Predator now and done two installments that are against in
the world but different than their proecessors. So I'm really
excited just also just what he does in the future,
you know, because he's just creative films that I genuinely
really like. So yeah, nine out of ten for me
on Prey.
Speaker 4: Did he do something? Did he do a movie in
between Cloverfield and this, because that's kind.
Speaker 2: Of fair, don't.
Speaker 1: I think what happened was I thought he was doing
a movie and it kind of got like development held
and he like went onto someone else. But I'll take
a look and see, well Taylor's talking yes.
Speaker 3: So I mean talking this out with you guys has
definitely put a lot more into perspective for me, and
initially coming in I wasn't set on giving it a
ten out of ten because of certain things, but talking
about it and just really getting into the nitty grittiness
of the Predator and just the simplicity of what they
created with this film. It didn't have to be anything
flamboyant and extravagant. It just needed to be a basic
story going back to its roots, showing us what a
predator is capable love in the right scenario where it
meets a very powerful, cunning rival who can rise to
the challenge. And I think Amber did a fantastic job
in this film, absolutely incredible. I think all the casts
were amazing and everything that was just building the escalation
up in this film was just top tier. My only
con would be that CGI and I just I wish
that this had that movie budget behind it, you know,
in a theatrical release, that would have been super cool.
But I'm not gonna I'm not gonna hold that against anyone.
It is what it is, and they still delivered a
banger of a frickin Predator film. I hope to God
that this actually releases on a hard copy because I
really want to get this and put it on my shelf.
I know Disney Plus is definitely you know, they're not
keen on releasing their ips on hard copies, but this
being a Hulu thing, maybe there's a slight chance we
could see something down there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure how it goes with Hulu. I
know Disney Plus they've been like, absolutely not, we're not
doing that. But I was. I was trying to find
I can't find a budget. But I will say from
the budget standpoint, I feel like it looks a lot
better than some of the Disney Plus stuff we've gone
Now often it's just an hour and a half, but
still I think I would take some of this budget
over that. But yeah, I was just trying to see
the budget. But no, the only thing that was mentioned
in June, the Dan stated that there are discussions for
additional installments being developed after Prey, saying their intent was
to do things that have not been done before in
the franchise. You might get more and also in between.
So he did not do another movie after ten Cloverfield Laye,
but he did a Blackmare episode of play Test. Dn't
you remember that with Kurt Russell's kid when he's playing
a game. Yeah, so he did play tests and they
also did episode Boys and then this movie. So yeah,
he's done some TV over the time, but not an
actual movie.
Speaker 4: So keep my eyes on this guy. He's like, got
a great track record for me.
Speaker 1: He's a player. Yeah he did, he did and even
then Yeah, no, he's man Like ten clor phil Lane
was his first movie. The other ones were shorts and
TV stuff, so he's just starting off his career. So
and the good thing about this is what I like.
He fucking wrote it too. He wrote the story like
he was credit story and screenplay. So he kind of
has that thing of like he doesn't have to wait
for someone to write something good. And who knows, Taylor
maybe praise his future, you know, And I think you're credit.
I think, well, hopefully not that, but I think it
was probably right thirty to sixty million. Yeah, i'd say
like high end forty five somewhere in there because the
cast is not gonna cost much, so I think it's
just pure landscape and everything. But yeah, so Taylor didn't
slap a number. You were making us Wait, what is
your number?
Speaker 3: I thought I slapped a number on there. Oh, I'm
gonna give it the a ten out of ten.
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't hear he hits your ten and ten.
Speaker 2: I didn't I heard I'm not gonna give it a
ten and ten.
Speaker 3: Yeah, going in, I wasn't going to say on the
edge of our it's got the ten.
Speaker 1: There, it's got the ten. Well, Lane's showing again twenty
twenty two. I gotta wait till year ends, but I
think I can. I think I'm pretty close to saying
this is my favorite or a film ever, not just
even to the podcast, with the amount of stuff we've
gotten that it's just delivered and hit. Wow, it's one
of those years we're gonna look back in ten years, like,
look at all the stuff that came out in this year,
and it's not even over. We got months left to
good stuff. Yeah, so thank you everyone that tuned in love.
I think that everyone that's doing it now let us
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Speaker 2: Bye bye,