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Speaker 1: And and you should see what they do with some of

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these cocow ceremonies. My niece, he's been doing these for

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a while now, you know. And and she's she's making

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good money. They're doing one hundred and twenty dollars for

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these cocow ceremonies. They get you in there, they lay

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you back in his seat. They just slap you around

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with the hot towels, you know they do. And I

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they they they got these rags, you know, they slap

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you around with their the hot rags. They're they're like

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like a warm uh lukewarm rag. You know. They slap

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you around with these. They get the shaving brush out.

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Phoam me up and stuff, you know, pop pop pop.

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It's really it's some really you know, look it's luxuriant.

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You know they do that. You slap you out with

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the hot towels with the shaving brush out. Uh. They

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they're pouring there, just throwing these dabs, you know, with

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a little spoon or the hot cocoa on you, just

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slapping your eyes, slapping it right on air and stuff.

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Even get somebod they get some of the whipped creams

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and stuff. I mean, it's just it's just something. You know,

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they do some breathing stuff. You know, they got to

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doing a nice warm breath. You know, there's someone ripping

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farts in the back, you know, but it's okay because

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everyone's comfortable. It's it's a really relaxed atmosphere in her

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They got the you know, it's the same stuff they

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do for the Yoni temples. They got the you know,

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they got one of them bowls that they put the

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you know, the wooden wind around. Then it makes a wow.

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It's they get into some chanting and stuff. You know,

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it's one hundred and twenty bucks and they do it

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goes around for about forty minutes, and then they you know,

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after they've done you know, hitting you around with the stuff,

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they just you know, give you a little tap, gets

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your ass out the door, and they sends you on

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your way. It's really nice. The Cacaw ceremonies have really

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been great for the rejuvenation you know, ancestral feelings and stuff.

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so I'm just the welcome to the podcast. I don't know,

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I was really on one today, as I have been lately.

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You know, it's kind of it's a coping mechanism. Really.

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I'm back in South Texas, bec in the death cult,

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where there's very little native habitat left. It's just the

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you know, I was looking at some landscaping today because

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I was potentially gonna do a native planting job here,

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and you know, it's just the fucking just wonder about

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the logic. I mean, everywhere you go you see the

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fundamental issue of human disconnection from the actual living war old.

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What is the real world? You know that we evolved

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out of that, we're still part of everywhere you see it.

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You know, these weird ideas about what should belong in

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a landscape, what a landscape should look like. Uh, deranged

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ideas if you will, about what uh what what a plant?

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What a plant? What a plant's place is in a

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in a human landscape. It's crazy, Like we all get

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these weird ideas about what a human landscape should look

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like with plants in it, either from TV or from

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the horticultural garbage that gets planted that's taken right out

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of the fucking home home depot, big box store. You know,

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like they plant palm trees in South Texas. There's only

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one native palm tree to South Texas. That's not the

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one that gets planted. They the people in power who

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are making these decisions, and then the landscape companies who

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are going for a contract often decide, uh, the palm

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tree should be the non native ones that get really

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tall and make it look like you know, Miami b

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Each circa nineteen eighty seven, you give that kind of vibe,

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you know, or they plant the fucking box woods. I mean,

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just all this silly shit. So you end up getting

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this landscape that looks like it's out of a fucking

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video game. Like where everything's neatly hedged, evenly spaced, and

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then planted in uniform lines. It looks like a fucking

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Minecraft website. It looks it literally looks like something a

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nine year old would design. If you told them, you know,

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you gave them a set of a set of like

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nine options, they could plant on a sixty four bit

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graphic landscape, but it could only be planted in rows

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and in you know, perfect little squares. It's fucking weird,

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and then you wonder. Of course, while you don't wonder,

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it's readily apparent to you why the living world is

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dying around us, and you know, so much life is

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continuing to disappear. Like I was talking to my daughter's

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grandparents today here in South Texas, and I was showing

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them a picture of a tarantula hawk. You know, a

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really cool native wasp. It's got a really powerful sting.

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cool native wasp. They're not going to bother you unless

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you're fucking with it and trying to eat it or something.

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they're not going to come at you, but they parasitize tarantulas,

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and so, you know, her grandpa was talking about how

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there used to be tarantula's everywhere, the cool native Texas tarantula.

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What is it a fano palma. I forget the species name,

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but anyway, it was they're all gone. They're like, oh yeah,

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he was saying. When I when I was a kid,

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we used see them all the time. They're all gone.

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Same thing with the horned lizards. There used to be

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horned lizards everywhere. They're all gone. You know, is the

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is human civilization. The current human civilization spreads everything else

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gets plowed to make way for it, rather than trying

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to live with it and foster it and stewart it

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and make space for it in our landscapes because it's

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you know, the living world. There is this giant, well

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oiled machine that you know, serves a number of purposes

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like retaining soil, preventing flooding and erosion, enriching the soil,

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cooling the landscape via evapotransporation of moisture from leaf stomata,

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preventing the sun from baking the ground that alone, shading

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the ground, providing a living cover over the ground so

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that the sun doesn't just bake it, heating it up,

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and then once the sun goes down, that ground, of course,

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continues to emanate heat. Whether it's a giant asphalt parking

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lot or even a lawn, it's still a giant battery

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of heat. It's a giant heat radiator. All those and more,

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all those services are provided by retaining the living fabric

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around you, not having stupid shit like lawns or plants

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that are not native to the ecosystem that comprises your

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surrounding region. You know that evolved five thousand miles away.

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That kind of shit. So we're dismantling this wonderful living

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machine and garbage up in its place, and then wondering

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why why everything around us is collapsing, Why weather systems

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are fucked up, Why you know there's been record heat,

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why there's been massive flooding. I mean, all it goes

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on and goes I'm pretty to the choir here, I know,

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but it still just blows my fucking mind. So, and

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it's indicated to me every day when I look at

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the things that we plant in our landscaping, and then

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I talk to people in charge, Like the landscape bit

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I was looking at and I would I don't care

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about making money. I want to just see this shit

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look nice. I mean, I care about being comfortable. I

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want to see spots that I'm going to be exposed

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to look nice. That's how I end up getting involved

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in this. And at this point, I'm just gonna like

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give them consulting. I don't even probably won't even end

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up planting anything because I don't have time and I

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don't have the resources, and I'm stretched pretty thin right now.

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But I just don't want to see them rip out

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what's their half of which is native at this particular site.

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coming by to pollinate things like the Ruellia and the

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Amelia patents which are there. They're native to this region,

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but you know, they're kind of standard horticultural fair The

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ones they've got are probably all the same clone, but regardless,

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you know, instead of different phenotypes. But regardless, it's it's

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benefiting the pollinators, it's providing life in this Like this,

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one of the guys in charge decided he wanted to

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put a desert scape in and I was like, okay,

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well that's great for places like Phoenix and Tucson, but

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like we're not really a desert we get twenty two

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inches of rainy ear. If you rip this stuff out,

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like putting in a desert scape when there's nothing there,

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you could do that. That makes sense. But if you're

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like ripping out native shrubs that are providing food for

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all these cool pollinators, and then you're you're replanting it

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with non native columnar cacti in a gaves, then you're

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gonna have all this barren space. You're gonna lose all

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those pollinators because they're those agaves are not you know,

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they'll flower or very intermittently versus these things which are

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flowering constantly. Then you can have all this barren space

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in between that's just gonna get infiltrated with all the

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fucking horrible non native grasses and h and quote weeds

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that infiltrate any landscape. I know because I've tried to

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do this. So you're gonna require maintenance. It's gonna look

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like shit without maintenance. Why do you want to rip

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this stuff? But anyway, the reasoning for wanting to rip

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this stuff out was that it like the flowering plants,

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the amelia and the ruellia ruellias. E can't they see?

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For those of you that don't know, Amelia Pattens is

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a coffee family rubiac. The reason for ripping it out

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was that it grew over the sidewalk. That it grew

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over the Sidewalkay, well, you get a fucking hedger and

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you just cut the thing. It's not that hard. You

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just go in there and you just just hedge it up.

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It looks silly, it's not what I would do. But

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if you're really that worried about it, you know, these

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these ideas about like I don't want to plant that

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tree because it's gonna drop stuff in the parking lot, Well, yeah,

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it's what plants do. They drop seeds, how they reap.

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You're not going to change four hundred and fifty million

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years of land plant evolution because you don't like a

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messy parking lot. Gets someone to fucking sweep the park,

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or get someone to sweep the sidewalk or what. You know.

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There's ways around this besides just removing these things. And

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it's you know, I deal with this all the time too,

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the way that we view plants as just they're esthetically

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pleasing their background imagery for a shitty photo or or

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someone's canned idea about how something should look. There's not

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We're not integrating the life that surrounds us, the living

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fabric that we're a part of. We're not integrating that

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into our our lives. You know, the way to look

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at this should not be just I'm going to plant

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whatever I whimsically think is attractive, even though I have

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no experience in ecology and natural sciences or and I'm

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not even familiar with what this landscape looked like two

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hundred years ago before my ass or my ancestors stilly

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asses got here. You know, I'm going to I'm just

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gonna plant for what what is attractive? Well, what's attractive?

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Difference depends on who differs depending on who you talk to.

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But what doesn't change depending on who you talk do

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is how the things that you plant, the choices you make,

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affect all the surrounding life around you. If you choose

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to plant things, if you choose to plant things that

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nurture and foster life and other life forms, that's not

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a subjective opinion. That's a fact. That's what's going to happen.

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You're gonna nurture and foster other life forms. You're gonna

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get the cool hummingbirds and the cool fucking sulfur butterflies,

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and the cool beetles and all the other stuff. And

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you know what, the pest insects. You're gonna have less

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of those two because you're gonna have the things that

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eat them. Right, same shit. If you got like a

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roach problem outside, we get these big non native African

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cockroaches or German cockroaches, whatever the fuck they're called. The

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common name's basically it's a big red roach, all right.

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I have less of those now because I've got all

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the cool lizards and toads that eat them, and so

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I don't get any in my house because they can't survive.

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I don't get them in my house. I don't even

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see them outside that much because everything else eats them.

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Why do I get Why do I have those things

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that eat them there? Because I've got the diverse native

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plant community that they want. There's places for them to hide,

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for them to hang out in, for them to lurk in,

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for them to make and reproduce in I mean, my yard.

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This little parcel is an oasis of life in a

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sea of shit, in a sea of human fucking garbage

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of like modern human societal garbage. The lawns, the cordy

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palm trees, the fucking the roads, the fucking parking lots,

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the dumb you know, the fucking commercial shit. There's like

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nine pawn shops, you know, five blocks away, nine fucking

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pawn shops. That tells you about the quality of the culture,

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right anyway, Uh, I really need some car dealerships. I

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need some car dealerships. You could do a couple more. Uh,

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you know, loan places, those are nice. Some pawn shops

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and loan loan places are always nice. So like a

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little loan storefront, you know, payday loans really increase the

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intellectual rigor that's evident by just taking a walk in

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the neighborhood. You know this that the the intellectual stimuli.

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I don't know, man, you know what's the But what's

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the what's the answer is because I'm not just complaining

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to talk ship. The answer is to normalize talking about

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this kind of shit. But knowing that there's a solution

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for talk about this, make it a point. Throw in

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those little fucking comments here and there. That's good. Don't

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be a don't be a don't be a silent mouth,

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be a squeaky fucking wheel, right, that's what That's what

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makes this normal. But instead of just being a negative dick, though,

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that does have its time and place. Okay, Uh, you know,

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offer a mix up, a little bit of comedy or

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a fucking cynical, cynically humorous statement, uh, and then offer

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a solution. And you offer a solution by changing the

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ship that we plant. Okay. It's not just the fucking

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esthetic landscape, not just the way it looks. It's literally

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the way we fucking live. It's this, it's the life

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that we surround ourselves with. To demean it and just

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say it's not it's just a pretty plant or whatever

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the shit, it's not about that. It's about the way

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that we live. It's about the way that we foster

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and relate to the landscape around us, which a lot

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of human societies have done in a positive manner for

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thousands of years. All right, But this one, the one

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that we're living, and the roots that this civilization came

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from are all fucked up and painted, Okay, and they

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can potentially, I mean, I still think we're on a

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sinking shit, but at least we can maybe increase the

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quality of the sink on the way down, you know,

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increase the quality of the sinking. We're still going down,

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but it might be a little bit more tolerable, you

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know what I mean? By fostering a connection to the

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living world, the world that we're part of, this well

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oiled machine that takes care of all of us. You know,

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that's the kind of mindset to have normalized. Talking about that,

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you can change something by talking about that, By convincing

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your neighbors to kill the law, by convincing your city people,

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whatever the fucking city managers to put plant native plants

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in the park. By being familiar and educated on what

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native plants grow around you, and what things pollinate them,

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and what things have an obligate host relationship with them,

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what insects do you know? Pay attention to that stuff.

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It really does. It really doesn't matter. I mean, really,

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it can be as simple as just having a fucking

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eigh naturalist account and paying attention to this. Collecting seeds,

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sewing them in the cracks beneath a fence line. Fence

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lines are good places to sew seeds because he can't

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mow there because the fence is in a way, you know,

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sowing seeds anywhere, keeping them in your pocket. You got

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a couple of acorns off of fucking what you know

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is the native oak, try go stash them somewhere. Be

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like that little scrub jay, that little mischievous bastard scrub ja.

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That's plant and acorns around. There's stuff you could do.

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It's really it's not that fucking art. Don't don't be drolled,

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don't be boring. Use your imagination that shit you could do,

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but certainly make it a part of of your life

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and just your daily life, and talk about it. Be

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educated on it. If you're educated about it, that gives

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you the opportunity to educate others, to share with them

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how cool this stuff can be. A right because there's

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obviously a reason you're into it. It's if you're listening

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to this fucking podcast. Yeah, you get a little burst

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of dopamine looking at this stuff. Share that with other

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people that'll get turned onto it. Two anyway, uh man,

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I've had a cool couple of days. I went and

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saw Texas's rarest plant yesterday, well one of them. There

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are so many now, so with all the developments, so

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many plants are becoming rare all the bulldozing. It was

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Perinikia congesta. It's carriophilesi, the carnation family, same order as Cacti,

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spinach and beets caryophilelees. But Perinikia congesta, I know the

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genus Perinikea. You get Perinikia james I. There was another

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Perinickea species I've seen in Colorado. There's actually six. I've

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seen about six Perinika species, as my eye naturalist account

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is telling me right now. Perinika Virginica. So I think

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I saw at the shale bearings out with that cool

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ariagonum in Virginia, on those those shale slopes in Appalachia.

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Perinikia erecta. Where'd I see that? Peraniki assess La flora

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and Peranikia Wilkinsonia. Oh, that looks like a cool one, Wilkinsonia.

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Where the fuck was that? Anyway? These are small, little,

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often matted plants, tufts of plants six inches tall by

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like ten inches wide. Oh that was in Marathon, No ship,

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Oh that wasn't. Then evacuate Peraniki Wilkinsonia. It's cool. Their

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flowers are tiny. They look like little stars. Maybe three

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millimeters five millimeters wide, little five pedaled, often tapered to

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a point each petal flowers. But you know it's once

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you see a peranike, won't you see a parke? You've

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seen them all. Uh No, once you've seen a peranickea,

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you get a you get a feel for you get

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a gist for it. They often like rocky areas. Uh

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they're they don't get too tall, so they can get

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they can get over, they can get out competed by

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and smothered by taller growing stuff. So they like areas

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where taller growing stuff can't grow, like shale, Baron's rocky outcrops,

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cliff edges, cliff faces, et cetera. So it already tells

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you this is gonna be a weird daphic situation. Remember

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a daphic refers to soil. So certainly I got to

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this fucking site. I was following old orbarium records because

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it's only been collected from two sites in Texas, both

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in Jim Hogg County. Who the fuck was Jim Hogg.

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Let's figure this out. Now, let's get to the Jim Hog.

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What the fuck tell me? That's a fucking oh yeah,

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Jesus Christ. That guy looks like a Jim Hogg. My

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name is Jim Hogg. Fucking born in eighteen fifty one,

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croaked in nineteen oh six was an American lawyer and

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statesman in the twentieth governor of Texas. I already don't

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like him. Oh god, Yeah, he looks kind of like

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an asshole. He got a funny little beard. You want

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to tug on it. See if he was Scottish, she'd

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probably be cool. But he was one of his old

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school Texas bros. So might have been an asshole and

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probably a racist though he was. Maybe Jim Hogg was

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trying to decolonize his his you know, his local community

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gardeners something I don't know. Maybe he's trying to decolonize

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the farmer's market. You know, this could have been a

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decolonizer anyway, Jim Hogg safe to say he was. Probably

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he could probably dig up some dirt on him. Oh.

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Hog was a follower of the conservative New South Creed.

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Oh that doesn't sound good. The New South Creed, which

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became popular following the US Civil War. It was also

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associated with populism. Yeah, yeah, he was a fucking clansman.

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Probably anyway. The New South, create New South democracy, or

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New South creed is a slogan in the history of

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the American South, first used after the American Civil War.

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Reformers used it to call for a modernization of society

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and attitudes, to integrate more fully with the United States

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as the whole, reject the oh you know what, this

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don't sound too bad, and integrate more fully with the

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United States as a whole, reject the economy and traditions

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of the Old South and the slavery based plantation system

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of the pre warp. All right, well, I'm you know,

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I'm maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. Maybe

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Jim Hogg was indeed trying to decolonize anyway, whatever the fuck,

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I don't know. The point is, Jim Hogg County is

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now a mostly Hispanic county in South Texas. It's also

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home to a large Payote population. Uh and I think

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one of the only licensed payotero's yout Jim Hog Webb County,

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Jim Hogg County, Webb County, and then Star County out

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right there, and then Sapata County to the west. Those

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are the four counties in South Texas that peyote grows in,

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as well as a wealth of other cool cactus species

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that few people, whether it's the native users of payote

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or the drug bros, don't give a shit about at all,

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generally speaking. But that can be changed. We can change

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that just by talking about it more and getting people

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into this stuff. You say, hey, come here, look at this.

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Look at this cool shit. We got sniff on this.

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A bunch of other nice stuff over here, A bunch

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of cool plants like Perinikia congesta or that liatrous punk

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tata variety mexicana. You just call it a fucking blazing

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star if you don't want to remember all that. Though,

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if you do get into botany or plants at all,

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you should familiarize yourself with genus names. At least. Don't

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need to learn the whole fucking binomia, but you could

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learn the genus these topo chicos with a twist. The

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lion is really weird. I'm gonna crack open my giant

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forty of green tea now, you know, so you don't

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get the ass cancer. You know, a come from the

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line of Daego's always always get prone to the colon

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cancer because they're eating a lot of nasty shit. All

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that had mozzarella and the fucking you know, those meatballs

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and shit. You know, it's really reeks havoc on your

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colon if you're not leading an active life. But anyway,

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so Jim Hogg County is mostly Hispanic. There's a large Hispanic.

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The box you check on like a fucking job application

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doesn't go into the depth of heritage. You know, generally

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cole Tekan mixed with or lepan Apache mixed with Spanish.

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But anyway, it's mostly Hispanic county and it is rife

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with cool thorn scrub plants, thorn scrub plant communities, et cetera.

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So anyway, I was a following an older baring record

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to this spot and I look at it the satellite map.

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I could tell this was gonna be a good good

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spot because the satellite map indicated that the whole area

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where it is reported to grow was I mean, you

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could see it from this like I was saying, you

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could see it was all this white soil, which turned

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out to be calleche. I would assume in other other

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places that maybe it was gypsum. I did not see

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any selenite there. Selenites gypsum in crystal form that you'll

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frequently see in gypsum areas. Remember, gypsum is a highly

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soluble just like limestone sedimentary rock. That indicates deposition in

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a marine environment. Generally when you see gypsum, though it's

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not just ocean environment. It generally and iticates more like

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near shore evaporate pools, like more estuarying, you know, like waters.

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It'll be inundated with the ocean for a little bit,

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then it'll evaporate like more estuary. You know. It just

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indicates there was more evaporative precipitation going on there at

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some point, generally speaking, but you'll frequently see gypsum with limestone.

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Limestone is calcium carbonate. Gypsum is calcium sulfate. There's a

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lot of cool plants that grow on gypsum. Gypsum is

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one of those soils that those geologic settings that induces

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speciation in plants. It causes new plant species to evolve

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over long amounts of time, just like serpentine, just like

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sand dunes. All right, It's not a straight soil set up.

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It's a really weird mix both chemically and mechanically. The

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way it behaves when it's wet versus when it's dry.

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Just like clay soils, there's clay endemics, there's clay endemic plants,

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plants that are only that are restricted growing on vertict

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clay soils. In places like the California Coast Range Mountains,

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which has a lot of clay sedimentary deposits full of clay.

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Shout out the Ryan O'Dell who works for a BLM

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out there, a cool botanist who knows a ship ton

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about all of those what is it fucking region? It's

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off Pinocchi Road, which is off the I five in

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central California, and it's all this verdict clay. You get

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these really cool plant species that germinate when the clay

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is moist and are able to take the stresses induced

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by the clay As it dries out and bakes, and

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those molecules, well, not the molecules, but the clay itself

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starts contracting, because that's what verdict means. It means it

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expands and contracts regard in relation to how much moisture

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it holds. So when it's wet, it expands and as

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it dries out it shrinks. A right, you can see

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the same shit in places where houses have been built

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with a cement foundation in clay soils. That's why they'll

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tell you sometimes in Texas like water the area around

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the prime of your house, so that because you know,

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as that soil contracts, it starts, it doesn't hold up

463
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the foundation as well. In certain places it's not uniform throughout.

464
00:25:16,759 --> 00:25:19,559
You know, there's where the cement foundation is laid, so

465
00:25:20,319 --> 00:25:22,640
the foundation can then start the crack since there's an

466
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,559
uneven way balance since the ground has literally shifted beneath it.

467
00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:28,440
But then when it gets wet again after a good rain,

468
00:25:28,519 --> 00:25:32,680
it's the ground swells back up. It's pretty cool, but

469
00:25:32,839 --> 00:25:35,440
it's obviously very stressful if your roots are and you're

470
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,279
a plant. Well, gypsum kind of does the same thing.

471
00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:43,480
When it's wet, it will be very spongy and moist.

472
00:25:43,519 --> 00:25:45,839
Then when it when it gets dry, it feels like,

473
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,680
you know, it feels like some Jersey gweedo mixed the

474
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,839
bad batch of concrete. Basically, it's what I'm saying here.

475
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,359
It's a fucked up harsh It's hard to kneel on.

476
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,359
It hurts your knees, you know, if you're kneeling on it, it

477
00:25:56,319 --> 00:25:59,720
feels like like really shitty concrete, like uneven concrete, not

478
00:25:59,759 --> 00:26:02,440
the mooth shit that Vinie did a good job on

479
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,640
when he was out there with the little trowel and shit,

480
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,759
you know, making it all smooth and nice. He could

481
00:26:06,839 --> 00:26:09,599
run a hand alongside it, you know, you could lick

482
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,640
it when it's dry, and you wouldn't get any dust

483
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,000
in your in your mouth, you know, like that, and

484
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,160
not that kind of concrete, like the concrete that's all

485
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,039
gravelly and wardy and sucks and it's. Yeah, it's really

486
00:26:20,039 --> 00:26:21,519
hard for a lot of plants to grow, and so

487
00:26:21,559 --> 00:26:23,319
you get a lot of cool gypsm endemic plants in

488
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,680
places like Nuevo Leone and Albuquerque, New Mexico, and anywhere

489
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,920
in the Chihuahua Desert where there's gypsum. There's a lot

490
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,519
of gypsum in the Chihuahua Desert and apparently on down

491
00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:34,279
into South Texas well. I could see this from the

492
00:26:34,279 --> 00:26:36,920
satellite image that this was already going to be a cool,

493
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,640
uh setting for plants, because it looks remarkably different from

494
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,599
the surrounding thorn scrub and it's bright white and whatever.

495
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:48,279
So anyway, I got there and I'm already. Fucking I'm

496
00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:53,240
seeing a bunch of cool, cool plants. Already. It's generally sparse.

497
00:26:53,319 --> 00:26:57,680
There's it's you know, sparse ground and between. It wasn't

498
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,680
super thick. There's like sparse ground in between these islands

499
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:05,759
of vegetation. Caliandra conferta. Was it conferta or confert to floor?

500
00:27:05,839 --> 00:27:08,039
I always fucked this up? On let me look it up. Okay,

501
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:15,480
there we go. It was Caleandra conferta Calliandra areophyla. Where

502
00:27:15,559 --> 00:27:17,680
is that? These are the feather dusters they call them.

503
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,960
I saw a bunch of cool calanders in Brazil and

504
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,400
in Mexico that are hummer pollen eate of their bright

505
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,680
red all those long all those stamens get super long,

506
00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:28,519
the petals and sepals are reduced, and it just looks

507
00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:31,880
like a dust, like literally like a fucking duster, you know.

508
00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:35,599
And that's just again the stamens and a couple styles

509
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,119
many stamens releasing pollen, and a few styles receiving pollen.

510
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,799
But it's a floral form that seems to work. But

511
00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:45,000
that Calandra conferta is cool. It's got this kind of

512
00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:49,519
divaricate branching, it's got you know, those mimosa like pinnate leaves,

513
00:27:50,039 --> 00:27:53,240
and it's forming this mat all over this not mat.

514
00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:56,160
It gets like ten inches tall. A beautiful butterfly outside

515
00:27:56,279 --> 00:27:58,559
hitting the amelia. I got a amelia in my fucking yard.

516
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,960
Oh shit, that's a swallow fuck yeah, nice zebra swallow tail. Yeah,

517
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,480
you fucking know what that is. It's good looking and

518
00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:11,680
so uh the caliander conferd to me as an indicator plant.

519
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,240
That Okay, this is gonna be a reduced shrub community.

520
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,440
It's not very tall, it doesn't like competition, it needs

521
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,880
full sun. That's been another fucking plant I'd love to

522
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,960
see in cultivation. There are so many I would love

523
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,240
to see in cultivation. Lucophylum minus is another plant I'd

524
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,480
love to see in cultivation. Little leaf saniso with those

525
00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:31,119
chalky mint green leaves, like so many of the plants

526
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,160
in West Texas. This is in South Texas. This is

527
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,599
a West Texas plant. We're talking about South Texas. I'm

528
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,759
just going on a diet tribe here because this is

529
00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:40,119
a wonderful species and I want to make sure I

530
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,839
don't forget to mention it. But Lucophylum minus is a

531
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,599
West Texas plant. That's going. It's going off right now.

532
00:28:46,599 --> 00:28:50,119
It's like a late summer, early fall bloomer purple flowers.

533
00:28:50,119 --> 00:28:54,960
It's little leaf siniso. Lucophylum minus is opposed to Lucophylum protestens,

534
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,640
which you get in the Edwards Southern Edwards Plateau and

535
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,599
the Paloti gardens of South Texas. Lucophiling for testants has

536
00:29:01,599 --> 00:29:03,920
pink flowers and larger leaves. But again, as you're moving

537
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,640
west in the continent, it dries out, and so you

538
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,920
start seeing the trademarks of more drought adapted plants, like

539
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,839
smaller leaves, thinner leaves, more hair, et cetera. But lucophile

540
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,319
and minus is fucking going off. God, it looks good.

541
00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:19,599
The whole fucking landscape is lighting up with purple and

542
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,519
I don't know anyone growing it, and that to me

543
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,160
is a fucking travesty. Home despot's not gonna grow it.

544
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,279
These shitty you know, wholesale nurseries aren't going to grow it.

545
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,960
There's no wholesale native plant nurseries in Texas yet. There

546
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,920
should be. I'm hoping there will be at some point.

547
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,240
They got them in California, where the native plant movement

548
00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:37,640
is much bigger, but they don't have them out here.

549
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,039
Someone needs to start. Man, someone could start a wholesale

550
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,640
native plant nursery in Texas and make a fucking killing.

551
00:29:43,079 --> 00:29:46,759
That is that is a fucking gold mine nobody's sitting

552
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:49,119
on yet. I'll do your promos for you. You maybe

553
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,079
don't want to be associated with me. I can't blame it,

554
00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:53,839
but I will mention you. Okay, we'll do an unauthorized

555
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:59,720
sponsorship because I just want more people knowing about this stuff. Oh,

556
00:29:59,759 --> 00:30:02,759
by the way, James Lovegren is gonna have prudace Texaan already.

557
00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:04,559
I gave him a bunch of seed. The radicals are

558
00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:08,519
starting to sprout and so he's gonna sew them. Uh.

559
00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:11,160
He's in South Texas. He's in uh what is it,

560
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:17,240
the home of Freddy Fender? You know, you know, Freddy Fender?

561
00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:23,119
Right home of Freddy Fender. Beautiful Sam Benito, Texas. That's

562
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:28,480
where James love Grin is located. And he's got prunus

563
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,359
text Ayanna, damn. Look at a frow on that guy.

564
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,240
Look at Freddy he's got a fro. Fuck. Yeah, that's nice.

565
00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:40,519
Like at you fro it's a daygo fro. Yeah, Look

566
00:30:40,519 --> 00:30:42,359
at he's got that mustache till Okay, I'm going I'm

567
00:30:42,359 --> 00:30:46,359
really getting distracted now. But anyway, James love Gren, located

568
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,759
in beautiful San Benito, Texas, is gonna have Prunas Texana.

569
00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:51,599
So I'm gonna try to do some promo for him

570
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,039
to sell him because I don't think there's enough people

571
00:30:56,039 --> 00:31:00,680
in South Texas that want it. You never know, but

572
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,559
people have been asking me about that. I've been getting

573
00:31:02,599 --> 00:31:04,200
emails left the right. You got any pruce text on

574
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,119
a seeds you get? No, you slept on that, buddy,

575
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,799
It's gone. I'm sorry it doesn't keep well. I tried

576
00:31:09,839 --> 00:31:12,119
to do a hot stratification on some because I thought

577
00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:13,720
that's what they wanted, so I left it in a

578
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,200
bag and let it get to the point that it

579
00:31:15,319 --> 00:31:19,440
smelled like vomit, like literally like Ginko fruits. And then

580
00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:23,799
it turns out they had just rotten. Doesn't need hot stratification.

581
00:31:24,319 --> 00:31:27,680
The seed just needs removal of that seed coat, which

582
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,160
bacteria and fungal organisms do in the soil when it's

583
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,599
sitting there throughout the hot summer waiting to germinate. But

584
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,720
I got some that germinated already. But remember when those

585
00:31:38,759 --> 00:31:43,839
seeds germinate and they'll be more available next June. That's

586
00:31:43,839 --> 00:31:46,680
when the seed is ready. They flower in early spring

587
00:31:47,119 --> 00:31:49,359
and then which in South Texas is like February, and

588
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,279
then the seed is ready. The fruits are ready by June,

589
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,519
and they're fucking delicious. You go out there, you pick

590
00:31:54,519 --> 00:31:56,279
a bucket, you eat all of them. You spit the

591
00:31:56,319 --> 00:31:58,759
seeds out. That's how you harvest those things. They're so

592
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:04,400
fucking good. But yeah, that then you'll sew them and

593
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,559
then they germinate in late summer early fall, so they

594
00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:09,279
sit out that hot summer. But I wasn't sure if

595
00:32:09,319 --> 00:32:13,960
it was a chemical or mechanical inhibitor on those seeds,

596
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,039
But anyway, they're popping now. I got a couple. When

597
00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:17,720
that seed germinates, you got to get them in a

598
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,079
ten inch pot, if not straight in the ground, because

599
00:32:20,119 --> 00:32:24,680
they send seeds, they send roots down super deep as

600
00:32:24,759 --> 00:32:27,000
fast as they can because they're trying to get you know,

601
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:29,319
they grow in really hot places that are prone to

602
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,559
you know, you could have a fucking eighty degree day

603
00:32:32,599 --> 00:32:36,319
on Christmas, you know, throughout the year, so the heat

604
00:32:36,359 --> 00:32:39,519
can come whenever. So you want to get that root established.

605
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,079
And then once that roots established, and then start growing.

606
00:32:42,079 --> 00:32:44,119
Someone sent me a photo of one they had germinated.

607
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,319
Whoever did that, thank you, By the way, I forget

608
00:32:46,519 --> 00:32:50,480
who it was because my mind is overloaded. But they

609
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:52,839
sent me a picture of when they had germinated. The

610
00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:55,720
vegetative parts above ground were two inches tall and the

611
00:32:56,519 --> 00:33:00,680
roots were like eleven inches deep into the ground. Fucking

612
00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:04,599
cool strategy. It works for him. But uh, anyway, I'm

613
00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:07,960
picking Manfreda. I'm opening the manfred to lunge of flora

614
00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:14,359
fruits from my yard as I talk to you. So anyway,

615
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:18,079
the point is there's not enough cool native plants uh

616
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:21,519
uh in cultivation. So it's up to you figure out

617
00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:24,279
when this stuff flowers, when it fruits and sets seed

618
00:33:24,319 --> 00:33:26,240
and then grows. Shit done of it, and collect more

619
00:33:26,279 --> 00:33:28,720
seed than you think you'll need. Scatter some as you're

620
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:30,960
collecting it. That's what the plant wants and you're helping

621
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,200
it out. But scatter more seed than you think you'll need,

622
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,920
because you can always give it to someone who will

623
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,720
grow it, or give it to a native plant nursery

624
00:33:36,759 --> 00:33:38,359
that'll grow it or whatever. But get I've been given

625
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,200
see to James Peace, I've been given seeded bart and

626
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,880
springs nursery up in Austin. I just want to see

627
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,240
more of this shit and cultivation. Why because the habitat

628
00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:51,839
where's where it grows is dying and being undervalued, underappreciated,

629
00:33:51,839 --> 00:33:56,200
and destroyed. So anyway back to Perinikia, Congesta and those

630
00:33:56,279 --> 00:33:59,720
cool caliche soils that it grows on. Collich is just

631
00:33:59,799 --> 00:34:03,400
kind of a natural cement. It's basically what happens when

632
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,680
you take calcareous rock and calcarious soils, introduce a little

633
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,360
bit of rain water, well sometimes a lot of rain

634
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,039
water in a very hot place where it evaporates really quickly,

635
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:18,559
and so that water reacts with the limestone because it's

636
00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:21,960
calcium carbonate, and the calcareous soils, even if it's just

637
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:26,840
like you know, the limestone that weathered long ago, it's

638
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,800
still you know, still builds a calcarious soil. The weather

639
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,039
reacts with it, picks up figuratively speaking, well actually quite literally,

640
00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:40,880
picks up, dissolves that those calcium carbonate minerals and then

641
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,519
carries them aways. And then because it's so hot, that

642
00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:47,159
water evaporates, leaving them behind, and so you get this

643
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,800
kind of natural cement forming. And this cement will cement

644
00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:55,360
rocks together. You'll see like road cuts with all these

645
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,000
conglomerate rocks and pebbles in it, cemented together by caliche

646
00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:04,719
where kalechi, as Christy David says, those kalechi soils, you

647
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,480
gotta say it loves those kalechi soils. Joey gotta love

648
00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:13,559
that woman. So anyway, I could see the collechi was

649
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:18,199
fucking everywhere. Plant community changed, and it's so hard to

650
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,920
not get distracted when I'm looking at I mean, it's

651
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,880
so hard to not get distracted on this fucking podcast,

652
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,559
as you can clearly tell. But it's so hard to

653
00:35:24,599 --> 00:35:27,519
not get distracted when I'm out looking for a plant

654
00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:29,519
because in any of these areas, because there's so much

655
00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:32,119
other cool stuff that's growing there and it's so underdocumented,

656
00:35:32,159 --> 00:35:34,440
you're not getting a lot of people going out to

657
00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:37,920
Jim Hogg County, Texas to document the native plants there.

658
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,159
As you might have guessed, we need more people doing it,

659
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,800
even if it just means parking your car and walking

660
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,400
along a roadside, which is what you got to do

661
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,360
in Texas most of the time because ninety six percent

662
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,119
of the land is fucking private here. You can still

663
00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:52,199
learn a lot of cool shit and see a lot

664
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,880
of cool shit just by parking your fucking car and

665
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,880
walking with your dog along a fence line for a mile,

666
00:35:58,599 --> 00:36:03,199
all right, because those areas between the fence and the

667
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,760
road there can still be a lot of cool shit

668
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,079
growing there. Sucks, that's what it's come to. It sucks.

669
00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:09,159
You can't go out on like an actual hiking trailer,

670
00:36:09,199 --> 00:36:11,440
hike off in some blm land looking for stuff like

671
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:12,840
me and sheriff. What do you used to do? But

672
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,760
it beats It beats nothing, you know, beats not doing anything.

673
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,039
It beats sitting on your sitting at your home with

674
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:21,559
your thumb and your ass, complaining about shit on social media.

675
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,519
Fucking god forbid. Playing video games no offense if you

676
00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:27,679
played the video games. But you got to at least

677
00:36:27,679 --> 00:36:30,400
reduce them, all right, You should get them out of

678
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,000
your life and go enjoy the real world. But I

679
00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:33,880
get I get it. The real world's depressing. But at

680
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,000
least cut them down a little bit. Do something, you know,

681
00:36:36,119 --> 00:36:38,360
Go build some shit, go fucking whatever. I don't know,

682
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:44,079
Go do some kettle bell swings, you know, so the

683
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,800
coleaches everywhere I park It already looks good. I was

684
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,960
surprised to see this fucking blew my mind. Liatris punk Hata,

685
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,880
the Blazing Star growing in South Texas in jim Hogg County,

686
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,320
and it was now you never see Liatrius growing in

687
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,760
thorn scrub's mostly thorn scrub. It's dense, but it only

688
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,320
it only gets six feet eight feet tall. This type

689
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,159
of plant community the time of leaping thorn scrub, but

690
00:37:08,199 --> 00:37:10,960
it gets super fucking dense. And my actress is a

691
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,559
sun needy plant, and there was so much of it

692
00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:17,760
growing here. I did dig some. I fucking dug some,

693
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,400
you bet your ass I did. I would never do

694
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,440
that in California or another state where that actually values

695
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,559
its native flora and protects it. But I've seen too

696
00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:27,599
many places in Texas where you're out there looking for

697
00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:32,199
cool plants and uh, you know, you decide I'm not

698
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,239
gonna dig or whatever, and then you come back six

699
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,159
months later and it's destroyed. It's been mowed, it's been sprayed,

700
00:37:37,199 --> 00:37:40,320
or the landowner it just decided to bulldoze it because

701
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,920
he's trying to sell the plot. And cleared land is

702
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,639
more valuable than land with living skin on it than

703
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,239
land with plants on it. So I dug a couple

704
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,880
of iatriss. The population was robust. I'm gonna try to

705
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,039
get them going, and once I do, I'm either gonna,

706
00:37:55,519 --> 00:37:57,079
I don't know, try to get them the one of

707
00:37:57,079 --> 00:38:00,280
the botanic gardens here, or basically the idea is to

708
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,599
dig them and then get a seed source going, get

709
00:38:03,639 --> 00:38:05,840
two plants, get a seed source going, so you can

710
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,960
get seed of this. I also collected an erbarium specimen

711
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,400
because I don't even know if this population has been documented,

712
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,519
but apparently this liatrius. One of the only reasons it

713
00:38:14,559 --> 00:38:17,320
was growing here is because it was this open white

714
00:38:18,039 --> 00:38:21,599
landscape of Colichi Calichi's soil, but it was I'm so

715
00:38:21,639 --> 00:38:24,920
surprised to see Liatris punk tata growing down. I've seen

716
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,199
it out by Terlingua on some of those you know

717
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,159
barren desert areas, but of course that's a different landscape

718
00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:33,039
that's not as humid. You get cooler night temperatures where

719
00:38:33,039 --> 00:38:35,280
you don't have humidity. The temperature is cool off at night.

720
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:40,840
That affects the plant metabolism, you know, over evolutionary time,

721
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,239
so there are plants that have evolved to take those

722
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,039
cool nights. But then you bring them to a hot

723
00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:47,920
humid environment and they can't take the warm nights. And

724
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,360
again the air doesn't cool off because it's got water

725
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,559
vapor in it. Water vapor holds onto heat. It's got

726
00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:59,039
a high heat capacity, so anyway, the water molecules hold

727
00:38:59,039 --> 00:39:02,039
on to heat. But I fuck, it was so cool

728
00:39:02,039 --> 00:39:03,519
to see. I was so stoked. I'm like, God, damn,

729
00:39:03,559 --> 00:39:07,119
this is a liatris growing in South Texas, growing in

730
00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:10,679
the fucking payote gardens. Like there's peyote, you know, five

731
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,679
minutes away from here, and there's liatris growing with it.

732
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:18,400
So a blazing star that grows simpatrick with payoti, which

733
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,599
is crazy. Like, you know, people in the Midwest that

734
00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:23,840
are familiar with liatris and love it and plant that

735
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,519
in their native plant gardens. Whatever the shit, would be

736
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,760
amazed to learn that there's a liatris species that co

737
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,519
occurs with payoti. So cool, you know, or grows within

738
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,920
a breadth of it. What else was here? That Callandra Conferda,

739
00:39:38,119 --> 00:39:41,320
Like I said, there was a weird Oh god, what

740
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,880
was that plant? There was a weird member of malt

741
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:49,280
piggy ac that I had never seen before. Let's see

742
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,960
this aspect. Karfa was that what it was. Normally when

743
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,840
you see malpiggy ac, you think it's gelfimia. What is

744
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,840
it in gusta foia which you get in the Edwards

745
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,280
plateau to it builds a big root like many of

746
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,159
these plants do, you know, from a dry area they

747
00:40:04,159 --> 00:40:06,519
build a big root that they can dive back to.

748
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,239
You know, cut their cut up, close up shop, cut

749
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,760
off vasculature to their to their leaves. When it gets

750
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,119
too hot, you know, basically just close it up. Tissue

751
00:40:18,199 --> 00:40:20,519
dies and they just die back to the root, go dormant. Yeah.

752
00:40:20,559 --> 00:40:25,480
Aspacarpa Hysopatholia malpiggy a ce malpiggy ac, for which the

753
00:40:25,599 --> 00:40:29,199
order malpiggy Alies is named, which you know rubber is

754
00:40:29,199 --> 00:40:32,760
in points setis are in U four B A C.

755
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,239
The family is in as well as willows too or

756
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,639
in this order malpiggy Alies male piggy ac the family.

757
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,639
Remember orders and an alies families and an ac mal

758
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,440
piggy ac is all the male piggy is I see

759
00:40:46,519 --> 00:40:51,039
have this general flower shape, five petals. The petals look

760
00:40:51,079 --> 00:40:54,519
like a padal, so they're they're much broader at the

761
00:40:54,599 --> 00:40:57,679
distal ends, and then they have this tiny little looks

762
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,239
like an ore, you know, like, ah, they've got this

763
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,880
tiny little it's called being a clawed pedal, I believe.

764
00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:08,719
So it looks like a spatula shaped petal, an oor

765
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,639
shaped petal, or like a spoon shaped petal. And then

766
00:41:11,639 --> 00:41:14,440
they've got these little nectar glands, not nectar, excuse me,

767
00:41:14,519 --> 00:41:16,760
lipid glands at the base of the flower that produce

768
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:22,559
fats I believe for bees that collect oils. Is that correct,

769
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:24,239
I don't know, but there are these weird glands. They

770
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,480
look like little buttons or little knobs. It's pretty cool.

771
00:41:28,159 --> 00:41:31,239
But this aspacarp I had never seen before, And because

772
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,199
all Malepigia flowers generally look the same, having the same

773
00:41:35,199 --> 00:41:37,000
flower structure, it's really easy to see it and just

774
00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:40,119
be like, oh, yeah, that's a uh, that's just the galfimia.

775
00:41:40,199 --> 00:41:42,159
You know, you always you assume it's what you already know,

776
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,440
but it was not. It was a whole different species.

777
00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:51,239
Really cool And anyway, so what else did I see? Oh?

778
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,599
You Ploca torri i Uploca is barrage and acy. So

779
00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:57,280
the inflorescence has that kind of scorpion, the way that

780
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,719
it curves, you know that scorpioid cyme structure very slightly

781
00:42:01,039 --> 00:42:02,760
not as big as like in a facilia, but you

782
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,840
could still see it. But it's got these yellow flowers

783
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,679
that are somewhat tube shaped. They look like they're probably

784
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,719
pollinated by a small moth or a small fly, something

785
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,039
that's got a long proboscis that can get in there.

786
00:42:14,679 --> 00:42:16,920
And I saw that uploka and I thought that was

787
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,440
this perinikea at first, because I just was ahead of

788
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,239
my mind, tiny yellow flowers. I didn't I didn't look

789
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,159
close enough. And then I looked at them more and

790
00:42:25,199 --> 00:42:26,840
I was like, oh wait, this is not a perinike

791
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:32,119
at all. Whatever. And then a little bit further along

792
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,199
at this site I was looking at the liatrus. I'm like, okay,

793
00:42:36,199 --> 00:42:38,800
this thing isn't going to be easy to find. It's

794
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,360
a small plant anyway, but it's surely going to be there.

795
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,559
So I just walked a little bit further out into

796
00:42:43,559 --> 00:42:46,920
a more barren area, and sure enough there was Perinikia congesta,

797
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,480
which I just, I guess just got in dangered species

798
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,639
status because it's so rare. It's only known from two places.

799
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,119
But of course Texas is so ass backwards too. I mean,

800
00:42:56,199 --> 00:42:59,079
the conservation is here can be's ass backwards. So now

801
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:01,480
it's since it's in danger, it's illegal to grow or

802
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,360
they don't want you to grow it. Some of the

803
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,800
state bondists might harass you for growing it. I guess,

804
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,599
I don't know. At the same time, they're not actively

805
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,199
engaging in any X city conservation or trying to propagate it.

806
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,840
Oh god, it's so weird, man, It's so silly to me.

807
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,679
If I'm wrong, correct me, and I will gladly, you know,

808
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,199
put it in the next podcast that I'm giving you

809
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,320
out giving out bad dope. This is bad, you know,

810
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,119
bad info. But I'm pretty sure. I mean, I know

811
00:43:28,119 --> 00:43:30,920
people who've been harassed for growing endangered plants before, which

812
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,760
is fucking madness. It's insane. California, with all the stupid

813
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,360
shit they can do out there, sometimes doesn't do that.

814
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,000
Like California doesn't have policy where it's illegal. Three are

815
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,000
plenty of plants that are endangered in the wild in

816
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:50,079
California are actively in abundantly grown and cultivation. It's our

817
00:43:50,119 --> 00:43:52,159
best hope for a lot of the stuff, you know,

818
00:43:52,199 --> 00:43:54,039
in a state where there's no protections for a lot

819
00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:56,639
of these plants, growing things in cultivation is the best hope.

820
00:43:56,639 --> 00:43:59,559
Why would you make it harder to do that. That's

821
00:43:59,639 --> 00:44:03,519
crazy to me, because it's gonna be incentivizing poaching. No,

822
00:44:03,639 --> 00:44:06,440
it's not gonna be incentivizing poaching. It's gonna be incentivizing

823
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,280
if a plant is endangered, it's gonna be incentivizing growing

824
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,639
it more. People want to have that. It's no one's

825
00:44:13,679 --> 00:44:15,639
gonna come out and try to poach a fucking little

826
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,840
this little turd of a plant that no one probably

827
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,760
cares about, just because it's rare, come on flood the market.

828
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,679
That's how the thinking goes. Like when the same thing,

829
00:44:23,679 --> 00:44:25,840
when the Dudley appoaching was going on in California, they

830
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,239
didn't outlaw growing Dudley. They fucking growers just grew a

831
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,239
shit ton more. They're really easy to grow from seed.

832
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,360
Dudley is a cool little succulent plant that's got a

833
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,440
rosette that a lot of people love. They do grading gardens.

834
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,360
So anyway, Yeah, I was stoked to see this plant.

835
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,800
I was stoked to get good photos of it. Put

836
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,960
them on a naturalist, put them up in a database,

837
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:52,360
and make them available to the public. Under creative common ZEUS.

838
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,079
You know all my photos. If you're not trying to

839
00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:56,440
make money off of it, fucking use it. I don't

840
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,960
care credit me, but use it. This zebra swallowtails really

841
00:45:00,159 --> 00:45:01,679
hanging out. What is he hanging out? He's hanging out

842
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,039
in the set the excellem. I think he's just pollinating

843
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:10,400
or yeah, getting some necktar off of it. So yeah,

844
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,599
it was a fucking cool site. I spent a few

845
00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:18,960
I spent a couple hours there. There was a physaria

846
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,480
I think it was Phisaria Fendler I little mustard, So

847
00:45:22,559 --> 00:45:25,679
that means four petals and six stamens, synapomorphies of the

848
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:30,960
mustard family. Shared traits of the mustard family, you know,

849
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,840
shared traits that are shared due to shared ancestry, to

850
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,039
the fact that they're inherited. It's how we grew up

851
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:42,079
families and orders. And then earlier that day, I had

852
00:45:42,079 --> 00:45:46,400
been at this woman's land who owns god thousands of

853
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,559
acres and she's really cool, she's really friendly, she's down

854
00:45:49,679 --> 00:45:54,400
for native plant people. She lives, I believe, what is it,

855
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,360
Webb County, And I was exploring her land. She's got

856
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,000
this cool red sand, which is another soil type here,

857
00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:04,480
and I saw Kamachrista texana growing there. This little they

858
00:46:04,599 --> 00:46:08,079
call the partridge piece Kamachrista texana. But the same thing

859
00:46:08,119 --> 00:46:12,239
mimosa flowers, same thing as that callander. Mimosa like flowers,

860
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:17,599
so they're pinnate, they're not flowers, leaves, Mimosa like leaves,

861
00:46:17,639 --> 00:46:19,639
so those pinnate leaves. But then it's got that safe

862
00:46:19,679 --> 00:46:24,719
elpinioid flower sace. Elpinioid is a subfamily of the pea family, Fabasi.

863
00:46:25,559 --> 00:46:29,639
Senna is in that family, Erythrostemin is in that family.

864
00:46:29,679 --> 00:46:32,559
They're generally pretty cool. They almost look like a pea flower,

865
00:46:32,599 --> 00:46:36,480
but they're five big petals. They don't have that banner

866
00:46:36,559 --> 00:46:40,480
wings and keel flower morphology banner petal, wing pedals, keel

867
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,440
petals and this, and they've got porcytal anthers to most

868
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,280
of them. Hoffman segi A glacca is another great one,

869
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,960
which it's another cool plant I saw in West Texas

870
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,239
busting up through the asphalt near the Prairie dog Town

871
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,559
north of Marathon. Another great, fucking underutilized plant would make

872
00:46:57,559 --> 00:47:00,480
an awesome plant in a native garden. Dope looking flowers,

873
00:47:00,519 --> 00:47:04,159
super cool flowers. Glaucus foliage hoffman Segia is a genus

874
00:47:04,199 --> 00:47:06,360
I know from the deserts of Baja to the deserts

875
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,400
of Chile. The whole fucking genus is dope. They all

876
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,559
look cool. There's some blood red ones in Chile. That's

877
00:47:12,559 --> 00:47:15,079
our native one hoffman Segia glacca. Why the fuck is

878
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:19,679
nobody growing it? Once again I ask into the void,

879
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,039
into the ether. I get no answer. But Cama Crista

880
00:47:23,079 --> 00:47:27,440
flexuosa variety text aina or just camachrista textena. Uh, you

881
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,280
get Chama Crista flexuosa on the sand sheet. It's got

882
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,360
multiple stems, comes up from another tuberous root. Those cool

883
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:39,079
yellow flowers mimosa like foliage mimosa like leaves. This one

884
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,199
was a nantios stylist, which I've been ranting about a

885
00:47:42,199 --> 00:47:45,119
lot lately because I've seen it in Solaina moro stratum

886
00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:51,199
and Heterantherra mexicana, that cool aquatic plant I did a

887
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,239
video on last month. A nantiostyli aka mirror image flowers

888
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,840
is a way to ensure outcrossing right and avoid self pole.

889
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,800
Why do we want to avoid self pollination because that

890
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,119
lowers genetic diversity. It's a great tactic to avoid going extinct.

891
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:09,360
If there's only one or two individuals in an area

892
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,199
and the rest of the population has been wiped out.

893
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,119
If you can self pollinate and still make seeds, you know,

894
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,519
different phenotypes of seeds, not just seeds that are the

895
00:48:18,559 --> 00:48:21,920
same clone as the parent plant. It's the whole point

896
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:26,519
of making fucking seeds, of reproduction. Then if you can

897
00:48:26,519 --> 00:48:28,400
do that, then you're not going to go extinct. You're

898
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,320
going to have a larger population. It's a good way

899
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,400
to hedge your bets against extinction if you can self pollinate.

900
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,079
But again, you do that enough, you do it over. However,

901
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:38,800
many generations, like many of the salvias, can do, and

902
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,760
stages can do. They can self pollinate. A lot of

903
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,719
members of MALVESI can self pollinate, so like if you

904
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,960
only have one plant, you'll still get good seed. Caranthodendron,

905
00:48:49,599 --> 00:48:52,760
which is a really cool tree, the monkey hand tree,

906
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,480
the devil hand tree from Wahaka, from the cloud Forest

907
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:01,079
of Wahaka. I grew then in Kell, California, there was

908
00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:02,760
only only one of them. I would still get good

909
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,559
set off of it, so I could grow more and

910
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:07,360
then share them with people. Great fucking tree, super cool.

911
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,719
The birds love the shit out of it like Jay's

912
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,480
would come and drink out of the flowers because the

913
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,599
flowers are the size of a baseball and produce so

914
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,199
much fucking nectar. And to see him in habitat in

915
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,599
the cloud forest of Wahaka growing at nine thousand feet

916
00:49:19,639 --> 00:49:22,199
elevation is a fucking tree. Really cool. They grow in

917
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,000
those those places where they do the mushroom tourism, you

918
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,519
know where you get like you fucking white shamans with

919
00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:33,159
rich parents going to do psychedelic mushroom tourism. You know,

920
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,480
it was spiritual experience. I'm just kidding. It's good. I like,

921
00:49:38,599 --> 00:49:40,840
I like that they have those places down there, and

922
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,760
I think it's cool that a lot of those indigenous

923
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,159
communities can capitalize on it. But you know, it's always

924
00:49:46,159 --> 00:49:52,000
a fine line between gross commercialization and actual ethical practices

925
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:56,440
that respect heritage anyway. You know, self pollinating obviously is

926
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,199
a way to head your bets, but outcrossing is the

927
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,800
most beneficial because if you're outcrossing, you're not going to

928
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,280
be stacking up recessive alleles. Allel is a copy of

929
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,159
a gene, right, so humans are diployd. They've got two

930
00:50:10,199 --> 00:50:12,559
sets of chromosomes, one from your parent, one from your

931
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,480
one from your mother, one from your father to you know,

932
00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:19,880
one step from each parent, you get a bad gene.

933
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,920
You get a bad copy on one set of chromosomes,

934
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,519
while you've still got that other backup copy of chromosomes

935
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,199
to make sure that you get a good copy. And

936
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:33,000
I was just teaching this, you know, it's haploid diploid.

937
00:50:33,039 --> 00:50:36,639
That's just elementary biology. And that's why you know humans

938
00:50:36,639 --> 00:50:40,000
are diploid and spermanegg are haploid. Sperm meat sagg forms

939
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,000
a new zygote, a diploid zygot anyway, so you get

940
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,960
those recessive alleles stacking up if you self pollinate or inbreed.

941
00:50:46,519 --> 00:50:49,639
Eventually you will if you're self pooninating. So outcrossing is

942
00:50:49,639 --> 00:50:52,480
always more beneficial. So something in the environment was selecting

943
00:50:53,079 --> 00:50:57,400
for outcrossing with these enantiostylist flowers, these mirror image flowers.

944
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,239
And so how is a flower mirror image do we

945
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,280
mean by that? Well, normally in a flower, you've got

946
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,159
say five stamens and a stigma, five male parts and

947
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,960
a single female part. The stigma will be in the

948
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,079
center and the stamens will be surrounding it. And so

949
00:51:13,679 --> 00:51:16,599
if a bee gets in there, it's dancing around the flower,

950
00:51:17,199 --> 00:51:20,000
hitting each stamen, the inside of the flower, hitting each stamen.

951
00:51:20,079 --> 00:51:23,079
It's going to get pollin on that style no matter what.

952
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,800
But the ideally it's from another flower, but it could

953
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,840
be from the from another plant, but it could be

954
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,960
from the same plant. Okay, with mirror image flowers, most

955
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:37,480
of them, the entire plant will only produce one type

956
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,920
of flower, a style that swings to the left or

957
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,559
to the right. So the style on a mere image

958
00:51:41,559 --> 00:51:42,960
flower is not going to be in the center. It's

959
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,639
going to be to the left or the right. And

960
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,519
generally speaking, the anthers will be on the other side.

961
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,159
So the anthers swing left, the style swings right. An

962
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:56,760
stamens same thing. The stamens swing to the left, the

963
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,920
style swings to the right. The whole plant will be

964
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,719
like that. Every flower on that plant will be like that.

965
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,599
And then another plant will have a style that swings

966
00:52:02,639 --> 00:52:04,440
to the left and the stamens that swing to the right.

967
00:52:06,599 --> 00:52:09,440
So if a flower, if a plant is producing flowers

968
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,960
that only swing to the left, that means it's going

969
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,719
to have to That means the pollen is only going

970
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,119
to be on the left side of the pollinator's body.

971
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,599
If it hit an entirely separate plant where the stamens

972
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,920
and the anthers were on the left side of the flower.

973
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,360
So it's it's a way to ensure that no self

974
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,320
pollination is going on, because every flower on a plant

975
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,960
that produces flowers with a style that swings to the

976
00:52:37,039 --> 00:52:41,360
left is not gonna it's not going to produce stamens

977
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,360
that do the same thing. So there's the pollen is

978
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,480
only going to be on one side of the bee's body,

979
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,400
not on the other side. In order for the pollen

980
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,039
again on the other side, it's got to hit entirely

981
00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:53,320
different plants, so boom from out its outcrossing. It's pretty cool.

982
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,800
You see it in Wachendorfia in South Africa, really cool

983
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,400
member of the hamodo ace, the blood roof family, the

984
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:04,159
kangaroo puff family in South Africa. You'll see it in

985
00:53:04,199 --> 00:53:07,320
Solanum rostratum, which is a species of night shade, the

986
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,039
same genuses tomatoes and potatoes and eggplant that we get

987
00:53:10,679 --> 00:53:14,119
in Central Texas. And you'll see it apparently in this

988
00:53:14,559 --> 00:53:16,960
Cama crista. I don't know if all camachrista are like that.

989
00:53:17,039 --> 00:53:19,239
A lot of them are, but maybe not all. I

990
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,840
don't know, but yeah, Cama Crista is pea family. It's

991
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,039
a sayesyl pineoid flower. So that was cool to see.

992
00:53:25,039 --> 00:53:27,239
And I've never seen this species before. I saw it

993
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:28,440
and I was like, why the fuck? This thing is

994
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,079
growing kind of prostrate, multiple stems coming up from a

995
00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:36,800
tuberous root, and apparently it's probably restricted to that red sand.

996
00:53:37,519 --> 00:53:41,079
So again we see these plants that are generally restricted

997
00:53:41,079 --> 00:53:42,960
to a certain kind of geology. They don't need that

998
00:53:43,039 --> 00:53:46,599
kind of geology. That might just be the setting, the

999
00:53:46,679 --> 00:53:51,159
geologic setting, the soil setting that they evolved on. Like

1000
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,679
plenty of serpentine plants you can grow on non serpentine soil.

1001
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,360
They just don't like competition. That serpentine soil is the

1002
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,199
reason they don't have any competition. It's toxic, like serpentine

1003
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,800
soil you get out in California, it's really colm out

1004
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,599
There'd be the same thing with some of this coliche

1005
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,920
stuff probably or whatever. You know, Like obviously like in

1006
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:16,000
the Calichi, it wasn't getting it wasn't tall thorn scrub

1007
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,079
because that stuff can't grow out there. It's just this

1008
00:54:18,199 --> 00:54:20,920
soil is too fucked up. But that means what can

1009
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,039
grow there is stuff that can tolerate it, like that periniki.

1010
00:54:24,039 --> 00:54:27,400
You canest out of the liatrists, et cetera. So you know,

1011
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,920
but you could just grow that liatris in normal soil too,

1012
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:33,400
just to make sure it doesn't get smothered by surrounding vegetation.

1013
00:54:34,519 --> 00:54:39,440
Really cool, it was really really fucking nice setting both

1014
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,400
of these places, the red sand area and this this

1015
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,360
this Colleche soil area where the paraniki was growing. And

1016
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,360
the night before, since I'm frequently going back and forth

1017
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,760
between South and West Texas so much, the night before

1018
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,519
I had stopped at a at a place near Sanderson,

1019
00:54:56,039 --> 00:54:59,519
beautiful Sanderson. Did you don't know Country Frilled Men was

1020
00:54:59,559 --> 00:55:02,440
supposed to to be Sanderson. It takes place in Sanderson,

1021
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,280
like the Dude's trailer Park was in Sanderson, Texas. I

1022
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:10,239
didn't know that. It's nice. You know what was that song?

1023
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:15,360
Oh God, what's that guy's name? Wayne Hancock? Thunderstorms and

1024
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,559
Neon Signs. I think that's a song about Sanderson too.

1025
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,639
If it's not, it should be. But the night before

1026
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,760
I had stopped on my way back towards South Texas

1027
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,360
at this spot where I know Salvia White House, the

1028
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,480
eye grows. This is a moth pollinated stage. There's very

1029
00:55:31,519 --> 00:55:35,920
few moth pollinated sages, moth pollinated salvias. It doesn't get

1030
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:40,800
that tall in situ. In cultivation, it can probably get

1031
00:55:41,079 --> 00:55:43,760
a foot and a half tall, two feet tall. The

1032
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,280
flowers are fucking epic though. They're like four inches long,

1033
00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:50,719
three to four inches long, white, kind of like a violet,

1034
00:55:51,079 --> 00:55:56,639
a violet pinkish white. And they they've got a long tube.

1035
00:55:56,679 --> 00:55:59,199
They've got a long floral tube and a moth pollinated scent,

1036
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,719
which is a good indicator for I mean, when you

1037
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,280
once you know what a moth pollinated floral scent is,

1038
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,599
you know that thing is polinated by moths, especially if

1039
00:56:08,639 --> 00:56:13,920
it's white. That tera righty I eminates that scent. Uh Mandavilla,

1040
00:56:14,039 --> 00:56:19,320
Macrosciphon mandavilla, and Nu genosa. Other cool native members, other

1041
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,000
cool native moth polinated plants that are members of apossan

1042
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:26,199
ace to oleander family produce that scent. Jasmine kind of

1043
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,800
produces that scent. Jasmine is a great example. Jasmine's a

1044
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,039
moth pollinated You know, if you're in a spot where

1045
00:56:32,079 --> 00:56:35,400
jasmine grows, either a fucking you know, botanic garden or

1046
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:40,159
glasshouse in the US or Florida anyway. So that's the

1047
00:56:40,159 --> 00:56:42,239
moth polinate scent. I think it's smellst fucking great. It's

1048
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,519
very pleasant, almost kind of intoxicating, especially if it's like

1049
00:56:45,519 --> 00:56:50,400
that that giant that ura flower or Brigmanzia flower. Really

1050
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,119
easy to confuse it to. Brigmanzia is are pendent flowering,

1051
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,400
and uh that ura produce erect flowers, and Brigmanzias are

1052
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,800
often like small trees. Anyway, The savvy white house the

1053
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,679
eye is a great, great fucking plant. I've grown up

1054
00:57:03,679 --> 00:57:06,599
from seed before from seed someone had sent me, thank

1055
00:57:06,599 --> 00:57:08,280
you whoever that was. I forget who it was, like

1056
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:12,519
five years ago. But it's another plant because it's got

1057
00:57:12,519 --> 00:57:15,199
such kanescent leaves. They're so covered in hair and they're

1058
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,599
kind of white. They've got that chalky mint green color

1059
00:57:17,639 --> 00:57:21,400
again due to the hairs, which you know, mitigate the

1060
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,559
amount of moisture loss through the leaves. Hairs are always

1061
00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:28,079
a good indication that a plant is growing or is

1062
00:57:28,119 --> 00:57:31,079
adapted to growing in either a hot and it can

1063
00:57:31,119 --> 00:57:33,400
be comparatively hot for a region, like if it's a

1064
00:57:34,119 --> 00:57:37,639
Dolomite prairie in northern Illinois, that can be a very

1065
00:57:37,639 --> 00:57:41,960
hot place. The hairs are a good indication for either

1066
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:46,840
a hot a planet's adapted to hot and dry areas,

1067
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,519
even like West Texas. Like West Texas doesn't get as

1068
00:57:49,519 --> 00:57:52,360
hot as South Texas, but it gets very windy, and

1069
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,280
that air is very dry, and so you got airflow

1070
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,440
across the leaf and the air is already really dry.

1071
00:57:57,519 --> 00:58:01,719
It's got a high it's got more potential to suck

1072
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,199
up moisture. Okay, because it's not holding very much, it's

1073
00:58:05,239 --> 00:58:07,840
not very humid. It's gonna suck up moisture like a

1074
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,880
dry sponge through those themata. Those hairs prevent that, right,

1075
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,840
same thing, well, they prevent it by increasing the boundary

1076
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,000
layer of humidity. But again, the fuck does that mean?

1077
00:58:17,039 --> 00:58:19,639
If you're a late person, that doesn't mean anything. What

1078
00:58:19,719 --> 00:58:22,599
that does is it stops the airflow from hitting the

1079
00:58:22,679 --> 00:58:25,039
leaf surface, the same way that like a line of

1080
00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:28,519
Lombardy poplars or other trees actually as a windbreak for

1081
00:58:28,599 --> 00:58:31,239
a farmhouse on a prairie and prevents the air from

1082
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,239
knocking the shit out of the farmhouse if you got

1083
00:58:33,559 --> 00:58:38,320
cold blush three windy days. So this salvia doesn't I

1084
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,599
think I let it get too overgrown or who knows

1085
00:58:40,639 --> 00:58:42,280
what happened. Anyway, I lost the one I had in

1086
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,719
my my little garden set up. So I was going

1087
00:58:44,719 --> 00:58:48,920
to get cuttings and collect some seed, and I still

1088
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,840
got the cuttings in the fridge. You can keep cuttings,

1089
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,000
I gotta travel with a cooler. Keep them in a

1090
00:58:53,039 --> 00:58:58,519
fucking big gallon ziploc bag once and so they're sealed

1091
00:58:58,519 --> 00:59:01,880
off from the atmosphere, so they're not gonna wilt even

1092
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,599
though they don't have any roots. And then you just

1093
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,920
put rooting hormone on them, keep them in that. You

1094
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,519
just got to keep that humidity up. You got to

1095
00:59:07,559 --> 00:59:10,920
keep them, keep that air trapped. But again, now they're

1096
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,000
susceptible to rotting, so you got to control for that too.

1097
00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:16,000
Use a hy perlite mix, a high pummice mix, whatever.

1098
00:59:16,039 --> 00:59:17,440
So that's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna take them

1099
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:21,719
out in a minute. So I went to go collect

1100
00:59:21,719 --> 00:59:25,760
some seed. But all the kalises the Klyx singular on

1101
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,800
most of these plants, the aggregation of sepals was already empty.

1102
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,960
The sea's already fallen out. So that's why I took

1103
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,800
cuttings instead. But I was out there fucking around on

1104
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:39,840
these nothing more like somewhat barren, low growing limestone in

1105
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,039
the West Texas Desert. Fucking beautiful spot. And I saw

1106
00:59:43,159 --> 00:59:47,039
Menadora longe of Flora, another moth pollinated plants. There is

1107
00:59:47,119 --> 00:59:50,480
so much moth pollination going on in this region. It

1108
00:59:50,519 --> 00:59:54,840
blows my fucking mind. It's crazy, like it's it's probably

1109
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,960
just so windy and dry, and there's so much moth

1110
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,880
diversity that they've become the primary pollinator in a lot

1111
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,000
of these areas. You will see more moths at night,

1112
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,400
then you will see bees during the day. And there's

1113
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,280
so many, and it's evident in the flora there because

1114
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,440
there's so many These fucking plants are moth pollinated. The

1115
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:16,840
Onatha species, the evening Primroses ootha hertwaggy eye, it's like

1116
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:23,199
a bush Onathra. There's plenty of other Onathra species, Mandavilla macrosciphon,

1117
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,719
Menodora lounge of flora, Salvia white house ci. You know,

1118
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,280
anytime again, anytime you see that long tube flower and

1119
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,400
all the stamens, and you know, sexy parts of the

1120
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,639
flower are included in the tube. They're not popping out.

1121
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,679
That's for a moth proboscis. Moths have those that little

1122
01:00:38,719 --> 01:00:41,320
rolled up proboscis that can unfurl just like a fucking

1123
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:46,639
red carpet and tap into that. So in moth and butterfly,

1124
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,840
but it seems like there's way more moths because it's

1125
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,559
just so hot and windy during the day. So anyway,

1126
01:00:51,599 --> 01:00:53,760
this was fucking cool to see. I wasn't familiar with

1127
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,679
this species of Menadora before. Menadora is in the olive

1128
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:01,039
family Olace just like ash trees, and its anapomorphic for

1129
01:01:01,079 --> 01:01:04,159
the isle of family is only having two stamens, which

1130
01:01:04,519 --> 01:01:07,000
I didn't realize that either until I looked up close

1131
01:01:07,039 --> 01:01:09,039
and look what the fuck they got two stamens, and

1132
01:01:09,119 --> 01:01:11,079
I was looking it up in floor of North America.

1133
01:01:11,199 --> 01:01:12,679
I figured it where else. It was like, oh yeah,

1134
01:01:12,719 --> 01:01:14,639
this is a trait for the islive family. It was like,

1135
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,760
fuck Jesus, how do I know this? How did I'm

1136
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:22,480
not looking at enough members of Olace? Apparently forest di

1137
01:01:22,639 --> 01:01:28,000
era uh and Gustafolia another cool desert shrub with tiny leaves.

1138
01:01:28,079 --> 01:01:30,480
It's in the olive family, you know. I was looking

1139
01:01:30,519 --> 01:01:32,519
at it just now and I was like, those flowers

1140
01:01:32,599 --> 01:01:36,599
don't have fucking two stamens each. But then I looked

1141
01:01:36,599 --> 01:01:38,880
at them and what looks like one single flower is

1142
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,159
actually on forest the era I'm talking about, which is

1143
01:01:42,199 --> 01:01:46,480
another olace member. What looks like one single stamen, how

1144
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,400
many stamens are there or what looks like one single

1145
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:52,039
flower is actually multiple flowers coming out of a fascicled

1146
01:01:52,199 --> 01:01:56,880
like involacar. That's axile on the stem, so it just

1147
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:00,760
comes out right out the stem. That's crazy. I can't

1148
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,639
really see, but it does look like there's what is it,

1149
01:02:02,679 --> 01:02:06,519
two to four stamens or maybe three, Yeah, I don't know.

1150
01:02:06,559 --> 01:02:11,239
Maybe had forest the era, which was not usual for

1151
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,400
the family. Maybe forest the Era has four. I don't

1152
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,400
fucking know. Anyway, the point is olive family, like olive

1153
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,840
flowers only have two stamens the same thing, and that's

1154
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,199
odd for a lot of angiosperms to only have two stamens.

1155
01:02:23,519 --> 01:02:27,679
I guess Salvia only has two stamens, which is in

1156
01:02:27,719 --> 01:02:31,519
the same order as olive and ash trees lamey aleis,

1157
01:02:31,559 --> 01:02:34,400
but regardless, it's still kind of weird. I wasn't prepared

1158
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,400
for that, Like, for some reason, I thought a menadora

1159
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,719
flower had more, but I apparently have never looked at

1160
01:02:39,719 --> 01:02:42,639
a flower up clothes. But this thing again, it had

1161
01:02:42,639 --> 01:02:46,000
that moth ponated smell. It was long and tubular, and

1162
01:02:46,079 --> 01:02:48,559
it was growing on just right out of it was

1163
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,159
a small shrub like two feet tall, growing out of

1164
01:02:51,159 --> 01:02:53,920
these cracks in the limestone. Really cool fucking plant. And

1165
01:02:54,039 --> 01:02:56,360
Menadora is cool. This is a first off. This is

1166
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:57,880
a genus. I don't have any species or any but

1167
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:01,000
there's quite a few. There was one I remember seeing

1168
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,239
in Nevada that was like a shrubby Menadora. They all

1169
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,719
smell pretty good. They've got seeds that are really easy

1170
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,760
to collect. The fruit looks like a little ball that

1171
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,480
matures inside the kalyx, like a little bead that matures

1172
01:03:12,519 --> 01:03:14,559
inside the klyx. Went, you know, a month or two

1173
01:03:14,559 --> 01:03:17,440
after the flowers are done being pollinated. Yeah, it was

1174
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:22,159
Mendora spinessens that I remember seeing in Nevada. Photosynthetic stems,

1175
01:03:22,199 --> 01:03:25,480
green stems. Just another crucifixion thrown looking plant. Oh well,

1176
01:03:25,519 --> 01:03:31,159
there's Menaedora africana. Too. Where is that? Because there's twenty species,

1177
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,679
So there's probably twenty species on inin at there's probably

1178
01:03:33,719 --> 01:03:37,639
more Menadora heterophla is another cool one you'll see in

1179
01:03:37,719 --> 01:03:41,920
South Texas. Uh, Menadora scabro you'll see in West Texas.

1180
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:43,800
I saw that out at the when I was looking

1181
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:47,559
at this giant crested peyote in West Texas. That's gonna

1182
01:03:47,559 --> 01:03:49,239
look really go to the tub at the collection. Those

1183
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:56,320
cactus nerds love those faciated plants anyway. Uh, God, protect

1184
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:57,920
that one at all costs. I saw like this, like

1185
01:03:58,039 --> 01:04:00,960
gotta be easily three hundred year old peyote with a

1186
01:04:01,079 --> 01:04:04,800
big crest, the big fasci faciation in it, which is

1187
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:08,679
just a mutation of the growing point. You know, there's

1188
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,480
all kinds like saguaros do that. Sometimes it ends up

1189
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,320
producing like a weird fan shape, like a squiggly fan,

1190
01:04:15,519 --> 01:04:18,360
so that the lobes on the stem as the stem

1191
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,320
is growing, because that's all any cactus is is just

1192
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:25,320
a photosynthetic stem. The growing tip gets mutated so that

1193
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,119
it's instead of producing a single growing point and then

1194
01:04:28,159 --> 01:04:30,480
tubercles and areoles and that kind of thing, it just

1195
01:04:30,519 --> 01:04:35,719
produces these weird twisted almost looks like a brain, really

1196
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:39,599
cool twisted with lobes in it. But yeah, there was

1197
01:04:39,639 --> 01:04:43,320
Menadora scabra all over there. Menadora flowers are generally yellow,

1198
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,280
and so this Menadora lounge of flora that was moth polinated.

1199
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,159
It was the same way yellow flowers, except they had

1200
01:04:49,199 --> 01:04:51,679
a moth polinated smell and they had that long tube.

1201
01:04:51,719 --> 01:04:56,920
So this thing obviously adapted via natural selection of moth pollination,

1202
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:01,519
the moths selecting for it. This thing obviously evolved with

1203
01:05:01,599 --> 01:05:04,079
the you know, it was selected for by moths. They

1204
01:05:04,119 --> 01:05:09,280
selected for longer floral tube and that scent. And it's

1205
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,760
just so cool how that same shit evolves. Great example

1206
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:17,280
of convergent evolution. The same thing evolves in unrelated plants

1207
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,599
that grow in the same habitat that's subject to the

1208
01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:24,199
same stresses. Really cool. Another thing I was noticing out

1209
01:05:24,239 --> 01:05:26,760
in this habitat is that there's so many plants. When

1210
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,320
I was in West Texas, there's so many plants that

1211
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:34,639
occur both in South and West Texas. Sydney Attenua, foliajotrophidioeca,

1212
01:05:38,159 --> 01:05:42,719
what is it, the Hamado cactus hamatacanthus, there's easily like

1213
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,119
a dozen more. There's so many plants that have a

1214
01:05:45,159 --> 01:05:48,519
distribution that is in both places. But the West Texas

1215
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,400
ecotypes are an entirely different thing like, to the point

1216
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,199
that it almost looks like a different species. I was

1217
01:05:54,199 --> 01:05:58,920
looking at Sydney Attenuafolia aka skeleton leaf really cool shrubs,

1218
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:03,960
dirty shrub down here in the in the cactus gardens,

1219
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:08,440
and also out in West Texas. You know, widespread grows

1220
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,880
in northern Mexico produces a little daisy like flour and

1221
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:15,119
a ten inch long scape dope fucking plant in the

1222
01:06:15,119 --> 01:06:19,000
West Texas variety looks so different at first glance you

1223
01:06:19,039 --> 01:06:21,360
almost think it's a different species. You're like, what the fuck.

1224
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:26,079
The leaves are way thinner. They've got a thicker like

1225
01:06:26,199 --> 01:06:31,199
epidermal wax on the underside on the West Texas plants.

1226
01:06:31,199 --> 01:06:34,519
So you see more adaptation for drier, not necessarily hotter,

1227
01:06:34,639 --> 01:06:38,960
but drier climate in West Texas. South Texas is certainly hotter.

1228
01:06:39,079 --> 01:06:41,639
We get more cumulative heat, but it's close to the Gulf,

1229
01:06:41,719 --> 01:06:46,079
so it's somewhat humid. The West Texas you get more

1230
01:06:46,119 --> 01:06:48,880
wind and you get much less humidity, and so it's

1231
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,440
much more stressful for plants in that way, even though

1232
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,519
it doesn't get as hot and the nights are cooler.

1233
01:06:55,719 --> 01:06:58,760
Jo Trophi dioheca the leather stem as they call it.

1234
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,719
Same thing. The South Texas plants have big, broad leaves.

1235
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,760
The West Texas plants have very narrow ones. They all

1236
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:06,880
behave the same way. They get a big tuber in

1237
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:10,519
the ground. It's supposed to be good for toothaches as well.

1238
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:12,960
You got a big tuber in the ground, and they

1239
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,360
form colonies. They spread rhizominously. Dope fucking plant. But the

1240
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,880
West Texas ciccat type is different. Same thing with Hamato

1241
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:23,199
cactus Hamato cactus hamatacanthus. The Rio Grand Valley barrel cactus

1242
01:07:23,679 --> 01:07:26,519
looks way different. It's darker green, it's not as blue.

1243
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,760
The spines, the hooked spines aren't as mean quote unquote,

1244
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:34,400
aren't as long and as hooked as they are in

1245
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:38,039
the West Texas plant and in a drier place, the

1246
01:07:38,039 --> 01:07:41,280
Hamato cactus hamatacanthus out there can actually like snag you.

1247
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:45,679
It sucks. It's like it sucks to touch. Whereas you know,

1248
01:07:45,719 --> 01:07:47,440
the ones down here in the Rio Grand Valley are

1249
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,639
a little bit easier to handle. I know from planting them.

1250
01:07:50,639 --> 01:07:52,840
They're really easy to grow from fucking seed too. They

1251
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,199
grow fast. I've got a bunch like they're one of

1252
01:07:55,199 --> 01:07:57,320
those cacti that you grow from seed. You end up

1253
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:01,480
having to repot at every fucking, I don't know, six

1254
01:08:01,559 --> 01:08:03,599
months because they get so big, especially if you can

1255
01:08:03,639 --> 01:08:06,039
put them in the ground, and they'll in South Texas,

1256
01:08:06,119 --> 01:08:09,360
the South Texas ecotype will literally grow in mud like

1257
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,519
they'll grow in very somewhat wet areas. You know, but

1258
01:08:12,599 --> 01:08:16,359
it's so hot again that they're metabolizing and their quote,

1259
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,760
you know, their physiology is moving so fast they can

1260
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:20,520
use it. The hotter it is, the more you can

1261
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,079
water a cactus, the cooler it is, the more you

1262
01:08:23,079 --> 01:08:27,920
should hold off. You should never water any cactus if

1263
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,720
the soil is still wet. Let the surface of the

1264
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:34,399
soil dry out at first. So anyway, I was surprised

1265
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:38,880
that nobody has written about that phenomenon, that there's no

1266
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,960
papers published on that phenomena of the South and West

1267
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:45,520
Texas ecotypes and how it literally because southern West Texas

1268
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:50,600
that region in between straddles the one hundredth meridian, which

1269
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,960
is where the continent dries out, and you can begins

1270
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:54,279
to dry out as you move west, and you can

1271
01:08:54,279 --> 01:08:57,600
see this on a satellite map. It's such a cool phenomenon.

1272
01:08:59,239 --> 01:09:01,560
I should really be comprising a list of all the

1273
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:05,880
plants that grow in both places and how the the

1274
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:09,079
ecotypes differ. God, it's so fucking cool to see it.

1275
01:09:09,359 --> 01:09:13,840
It's really remarkable. But anyway, and then I was in

1276
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:20,880
Alpine at a site there, this mountain that I've been

1277
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,880
to many times that was super dry. It's always super

1278
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:25,720
dry when you go there. The oaks up top are

1279
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:29,239
slowly dying. Their quirkis grissia. They are these like oaks

1280
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:33,119
that probably in cultivation could get you twenty five foot

1281
01:09:33,159 --> 01:09:35,439
tall tree, but on this hill they're topping out at

1282
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:39,199
like ten feet if that. They're blue. The leaves have

1283
01:09:39,319 --> 01:09:42,319
tiny hairs on them, no surprise again, adaptation to the

1284
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:46,039
dry air and the drought and the wind where the

1285
01:09:46,079 --> 01:09:49,720
bouts of drought in the wind. But I want to

1286
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,239
get acorns off of them, and they weren't. They were

1287
01:09:52,279 --> 01:09:54,479
not putting out. The trees are slowly dying. They had

1288
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:56,520
just gotten juiced up from a recent rain. But there

1289
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,600
was a lot of dead branches on most of the trees.

1290
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,479
And it's sat to see. Man, it's again, it's like

1291
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,000
that shifting baselines thing, Like if you don't mention this

1292
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,000
and write about it and photograph it and document that

1293
01:10:07,039 --> 01:10:12,840
future generations won't know how much things have changed since

1294
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:14,920
they were born. You know that you don't know that

1295
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:19,800
you're kind of inheriting this this this landscape that's been

1296
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:22,680
looted and somewhat destroyed. You know, you think that the

1297
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:26,159
way that what you're growing up with is normal, and

1298
01:10:26,199 --> 01:10:28,760
it's not. You know, you have no idea, it's crazy

1299
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:32,560
so this stuff. You know, having that perspective helps people

1300
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:36,000
zoom out a little bit, which again is something I'm

1301
01:10:36,039 --> 01:10:40,199
always always advocating figuratively zooming out. Don't be a dummy,

1302
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,239
don't live in your own small little world, don't assume

1303
01:10:44,359 --> 01:10:46,399
that what you know is the way that everything is.

1304
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,920
Zoom out and gain a variety of different perspectives and

1305
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,399
actually think about things. That's something I've been trying to

1306
01:10:51,399 --> 01:10:53,359
talk about as I teach too. It's like, because so

1307
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:57,720
much of school is just fucking memorizing things, which is useless,

1308
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,239
that's garbage. It's not It shouldn't be about memorized seeing

1309
01:11:00,279 --> 01:11:02,359
things to good good test scores. It should be about

1310
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:08,000
understanding things and critically thinking about them and asking questions

1311
01:11:08,039 --> 01:11:12,159
and then thinking about what is the logical answer with anything,

1312
01:11:12,239 --> 01:11:14,520
without the pressure of a fucking test score or whatever

1313
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:16,800
the fuck, just logically thinking about the world in front

1314
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,039
of you, so you're not a fucking idiot. But again,

1315
01:11:19,159 --> 01:11:21,239
being an idiot is good for the economy, it really is,

1316
01:11:21,319 --> 01:11:23,800
you know, whether you're like poisoning yourself with shitty food

1317
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:27,319
and lack of exercise, or you're or in many cases,

1318
01:11:27,319 --> 01:11:29,359
people are just trapped. And let's be honest, it's not

1319
01:11:29,399 --> 01:11:33,479
even choice. And people are often just trapped in the

1320
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:35,880
infrastructure that's provided for them, especially if it's like the

1321
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:39,680
vehicle slum strip mall landscape and there's no opportunity for

1322
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:43,199
walking unless you go to the gym. You can go

1323
01:11:43,239 --> 01:11:45,479
to the gym. You could drive your Dutch charger to

1324
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,520
the gym and take sophies of your six pick and

1325
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:55,239
you're you you fucking weightlifted, juiced up shoulders in the mirror. Anyway,

1326
01:11:55,319 --> 01:11:57,760
you know, don't just don't just be a dummy, you know,

1327
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:01,000
think about the world around you. That's what really makes

1328
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:03,920
life rich too. This is the whole thing though too.

1329
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,640
It's like co occurring with this stupidity, is this culture

1330
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:11,479
of wealth worship and fucking wealth idolization. Is if that's

1331
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:13,960
going to bring you some sort of happiness. Like, it's

1332
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:15,720
good to have money and be comfortable, but at a

1333
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,920
certain point you don't fucking need anymore, and certainly don't

1334
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,319
spend it on dumb shit that you don't need. Like

1335
01:12:20,399 --> 01:12:23,159
I totally judge people on it. I'm sorry you're buying

1336
01:12:23,239 --> 01:12:27,439
fucking eighty thousand dollars cars that you don't you know

1337
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:31,399
that are just status symbols or because it's a brand identitything.

1338
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:34,399
I think you're a fucking moron. Sorry, no offense, And

1339
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,399
it's fine, you could be a moral I'll still treat

1340
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,119
you with respect and be kind to you, but I'm

1341
01:12:38,119 --> 01:12:43,520
gonna be wondering about your potential, you know. But anyway,

1342
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:45,439
you've got this culture of wealth worship, and that's like

1343
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:48,079
this fucking carrot on a stick that leads people away

1344
01:12:48,199 --> 01:12:54,199
from like a really rich life, which is creativity intellect,

1345
01:12:54,359 --> 01:12:57,199
you know, being able to look at the world around

1346
01:12:57,239 --> 01:13:01,119
you and know what you're looking at and have a

1347
01:13:01,159 --> 01:13:03,720
context for it and share that with others and make

1348
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:07,560
cool art and study things and learn more. Like that's

1349
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:09,600
what leads to an enriched life. You could spend your

1350
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:11,760
whole life accumulating shit you don't need, and you're still

1351
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,199
gonna feel fucking empty on your deathbed and realize that

1352
01:13:15,279 --> 01:13:18,840
you wasted the best seventy or eighty or ninety years.

1353
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:23,079
I don't know. That's way. You got a dosum dosum

1354
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,840
the same way that booze makes you a numb moron.

1355
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,439
Just one psychedelic trip in your life will wake you

1356
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:35,000
up out of your slumber and get you questioning things.

1357
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,600
But not everybody wants that. That's why people have bad trips.

1358
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:41,479
You know, they realize they've been living a lie. Sometimes

1359
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:44,680
they're just clinically insane too, or prone to a sociopathic

1360
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:49,359
tendencies or or you know, psychosis, which in that case

1361
01:13:49,399 --> 01:13:53,319
definitely stay away. But uh, fucking a man, you know

1362
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:55,479
there's a weird I see this shit all around me.

1363
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,960
I don't know the lack of intellect, the wealth, worship,

1364
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:02,600
but all goes hand in hand. That's not what makes

1365
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,720
for a well lived human life. Be smart about shit, man,

1366
01:14:07,159 --> 01:14:09,840
Do better, that's what they say. What they say, do better,

1367
01:14:10,199 --> 01:14:14,760
Just do better anyway. I saw Ayenya pylosa on this

1368
01:14:15,279 --> 01:14:17,720
hill too. Aena is a cool genus, a y e

1369
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,880
n i a. It's a member of malvesi, the cotton

1370
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:24,359
and the chocolate family, and this was I've seen some

1371
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:28,920
really cool ones in Puebla and Wahaka. Weird fucking mallows

1372
01:14:29,079 --> 01:14:31,319
they've got. I think they're polinated by gnats or some

1373
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:34,119
sort of fucking I don't know. They got some weird ecology,

1374
01:14:34,239 --> 01:14:38,279
some weird relationship with a unusual pinator. Not all of them,

1375
01:14:38,279 --> 01:14:41,439
but some of them. But this thing was a tiny ayena.

1376
01:14:42,039 --> 01:14:44,399
It's cool to see that this genus made it this

1377
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,760
far north as well, because this is normally a lower latitude,

1378
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:53,800
dry land subtropical genus, at least the ones that I'm

1379
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,560
familiar with. You also get. There's a rare ayena from

1380
01:14:56,560 --> 01:15:01,439
the Rio Grande Valley as well. That one is a limitaris.

1381
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:02,960
I think I've got that in my yard. I don't

1382
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,079
know if I kind of lost track of it. I

1383
01:15:05,079 --> 01:15:07,439
don't know. It was growing beneath one of the papyas.

1384
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:09,520
I don't know if it's still alive. I hope so

1385
01:15:10,079 --> 01:15:15,920
it was a cutting anyway, But that, yeah, man, there

1386
01:15:16,239 --> 01:15:17,720
there's so much good shit up there. I saw that,

1387
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:21,720
like actress punk Tata up there as well, beautiful western

1388
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:25,319
diamondback rattlesnake as well. That was so kind to warn

1389
01:15:25,399 --> 01:15:27,640
me because I didn't see him. It was so kind

1390
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,239
to warn me that we were nearby. And Louis, you know,

1391
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,640
one of my two dogs, knows not to fuck with them.

1392
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:37,800
She listens really well, so you know, I was nice

1393
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:39,640
to see she still got it in her and knows

1394
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:43,239
to avoid things that can kill her. So I just

1395
01:15:43,279 --> 01:15:45,600
hung out there and took some photos and lurked on

1396
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:47,800
this thing. I was so happy to see it, too, Like,

1397
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:51,119
I'm so happy these little things you see sometimes, whether

1398
01:15:51,159 --> 01:15:53,600
it's a fucking horned lizard or a snake or whatever,

1399
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:55,960
you're like, oh my god, all life hasn't been wiped

1400
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,880
out from this area that you know has a somewhat

1401
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:03,399
large human population. It's so nice to see, God, damn.

1402
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:07,800
I just in conversely, it's so depressing to realize what's

1403
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,000
been lost. You know that you're looking at a paucity

1404
01:16:10,039 --> 01:16:13,319
of life that was once there, as is the case

1405
01:16:13,359 --> 01:16:16,279
with the tarantulas and the Rio Grande Valley or the

1406
01:16:16,279 --> 01:16:22,880
horned lizards throughout all of Texas, et cetera. Lastly, a

1407
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,399
few days ago, I was contacted by someone who's the

1408
01:16:25,399 --> 01:16:30,079
caretaker for what's her last name, Amada Cardenas. I think, yeah,

1409
01:16:30,119 --> 01:16:36,000
Amada Cardenas, the first licensed paote dealer from the first

1410
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,560
of the federally licensed payote dealers from South Texas. There's

1411
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:42,479
a book out called Amada's Blessings from the Payote Gardens

1412
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:47,079
of South Texas by Stacy B. Schaeffer. It says Amada Cardenas,

1413
01:16:47,079 --> 01:16:49,720
a Mexican American woman from the borderlands of South Texas,

1414
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:51,840
played a pivotal role in the little known history of

1415
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,520
the payote trade. She and her husband were the first

1416
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:58,399
federally licensed payote dealers. They began harvesting and selling the

1417
01:16:58,399 --> 01:17:01,399
Sacramento plant the followers of Native American Church in the

1418
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:04,000
nineteen thirties, and after her husband's death in the late

1419
01:17:04,079 --> 01:17:08,439
nineteen sixties, missus Cardanis continued to befriend and help generations

1420
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:11,039
of Native American Church members until her death in two

1421
01:17:11,039 --> 01:17:13,960
thousand and five, just short of her one hundred and

1422
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,520
first birthday. Wow, that's amazing. She was born in nineteen

1423
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:20,399
oh four, nineteen oh five. Excuse me, she didn't make

1424
01:17:20,399 --> 01:17:24,399
it to one oh one, but anyway. Author Stacy B. Shaeffer,

1425
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:26,800
a close friend of Amada, spent thirteen years doing field

1426
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:31,720
work with this remarkable woman. Her book weeps together the geography, biology, history, cultures,

1427
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,119
and religions that created a unique life of Missus Cardenis

1428
01:17:34,159 --> 01:17:36,159
and the people she knew. Shaefer includes their words to

1429
01:17:36,159 --> 01:17:39,720
help the story of how Mexican Americans, Deehano's Gringos, Native Americans,

1430
01:17:40,119 --> 01:17:44,319
and others were touched and inspired by Amada Cardanis's embodiment

1431
01:17:44,399 --> 01:17:47,760
in the core. NAC values faith, hope, love and charity,

1432
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:51,600
and that's what the well did. Sign above her house says.

1433
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:56,119
It says faith, hope, love and charity. Really cool sight.

1434
01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:04,319
And her house is beautiful in this really uh cathartic way.

1435
01:18:04,399 --> 01:18:09,720
I guess. This old old greenhouse made out of wood.

1436
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:13,439
It's on peer and beam floor kind of slants slightly

1437
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:17,439
in one end. You go inside, there's all this NAC

1438
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:22,279
paraphernalia everywhere. I mean, just old photos of Native American

1439
01:18:22,319 --> 01:18:25,920
church members, photo of Quanta Parker, Quanta Parker, excuse me,

1440
01:18:26,199 --> 01:18:32,159
above this little stand. It's just a cool house. And

1441
01:18:32,199 --> 01:18:36,199
it's I mean, man, it's it's in the site. You know.

1442
01:18:36,239 --> 01:18:39,640
There's beautiful Miski trees. There was a guyacn there, like

1443
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:43,760
a really old one guyacum angusta folium, and there's a

1444
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:48,079
little peyoti garden right there, like a prayer garden that

1445
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,880
people aren't supposed to take from, but apparently they do,

1446
01:18:51,039 --> 01:18:52,960
which I hope they need to get a camera on that.

1447
01:18:53,119 --> 01:18:55,079
You know, anybody who takes from that, it's kind of

1448
01:18:55,119 --> 01:18:58,199
a disrespectful Jesus man, you know, really, you get really,

1449
01:18:59,359 --> 01:19:02,279
but you know, Native people when they're coming to get

1450
01:19:02,319 --> 01:19:05,720
medicine from the dealer in the region, we'll stop by

1451
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,479
Amada's house and pray at at the place, and pray

1452
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:11,560
at the garden and say hello to the caretaker whatever.

1453
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:16,399
And I was looking over letters that were written to

1454
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:19,000
this woman from like the seventies and eighties, back from

1455
01:19:19,039 --> 01:19:23,079
people all over the United States, from Native Americans all

1456
01:19:23,079 --> 01:19:27,039
over the United States, writing her about, you know, purchasing

1457
01:19:27,079 --> 01:19:30,199
medicine or just to say hi, or Christmas cards or whatever.

1458
01:19:31,279 --> 01:19:35,079
It was really beautiful and it was so weird and

1459
01:19:35,119 --> 01:19:37,039
a really cool way to be able to sit there

1460
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,960
in her house and read these things. Anyway, the whole

1461
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:44,479
reason I was there was to help plant some other

1462
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,399
native plants in their payote garden and their prayer garden.

1463
01:19:48,119 --> 01:19:50,800
And so I suggested to the caretaker, why don't you

1464
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,399
go to Mike Heap's nursery and pick up a guahio,

1465
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:55,880
you know, Senegalia borlandi orry, why don't you pick up

1466
01:19:57,359 --> 01:20:01,439
why don't you pick up some blackbrush spiny plant which

1467
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:05,680
smells beautiful when it blooms, really important, tough, sturdy legume

1468
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:10,600
and uh with the zigzag branching when it's young. And

1469
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:12,840
why don't you pick up some leather stems, some jo

1470
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:16,800
Trophi diaheka and Euphorbia anti cyphialitica, the one that's native

1471
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:21,960
down here. Pick up some of those, and you know,

1472
01:20:22,319 --> 01:20:25,039
and the plant those around the garden because the paote

1473
01:20:25,119 --> 01:20:27,399
will need a little bit of shade, it'll need a

1474
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:30,399
nurse plant, even if they're full grown plants. And this

1475
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:33,119
climate down here in South Texas just gets too hot.

1476
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:36,319
And so in the DA they've I think they've got

1477
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,359
the license or they're permitted. The DA knows about this

1478
01:20:39,399 --> 01:20:42,079
Payota garden. It's permitted to be there, so it's all good.

1479
01:20:43,319 --> 01:20:46,119
And so we just went and planted some things around it,

1480
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:50,760
and it looked, it looks great, it looks really good.

1481
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:52,880
But there was there was a really man Nobody had

1482
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,039
been weeding the grass there, which is insane. The two

1483
01:20:55,079 --> 01:20:59,720
invasive well there's three invasive grass species. But there was buffalo. No,

1484
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,840
it wasn't buffalo, it was guinea grass is everywhere, which

1485
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,680
needs to be just weed whacked. And then there was

1486
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:08,720
bermuda grass like popping up through some of the plants,

1487
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,600
like sending blades of grass that had punctured the bottom

1488
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:15,119
of the peyote plant and come out the top. I mean,

1489
01:21:15,279 --> 01:21:18,119
just crazy. It was like, why is nobody taking care

1490
01:21:18,119 --> 01:21:19,880
of this? Like they just not know, Like no one

1491
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:22,319
knew to weed this stuff. Like this is really bad.

1492
01:21:22,359 --> 01:21:26,359
You're creating basically a canker in the center of the

1493
01:21:26,399 --> 01:21:29,199
cactus that can now be infected by fung guy whenever

1494
01:21:29,239 --> 01:21:31,880
it rains and stays you know, wet for for a

1495
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,039
few days. You know, you got to get this out

1496
01:21:34,079 --> 01:21:37,319
of there, you know, weed that bermuda man, That bermuda

1497
01:21:37,359 --> 01:21:41,319
grass is fucking terrible. So anyway, so we planted some

1498
01:21:41,359 --> 01:21:44,000
stuff and they got rid of some of the grass

1499
01:21:44,159 --> 01:21:46,000
that's gonna come back. They're gonna have to go in

1500
01:21:46,039 --> 01:21:47,920
there with either a hoary hory, a little the garden

1501
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:51,319
knife or whatever. But it looks a lot better already,

1502
01:21:51,359 --> 01:21:53,880
and there's like stones around this prayer garden. It's maybe

1503
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:57,880
like twelve feet wide by six feet wide, but beautiful

1504
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,399
little site. But I was so impressed with the guya

1505
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:03,239
con next to it. I have not seen guyacum and Gustafolium,

1506
01:22:03,239 --> 01:22:07,520
which is in the kreosol family Zygopalesi and produces little,

1507
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,680
you know, bright red fruits and probably obviously bird dispersed.

1508
01:22:11,039 --> 01:22:16,760
I have not seen that in that big like since

1509
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:20,000
Nuevo Leone, like the Sierra Madre has some large individuals,

1510
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:24,199
you know, and a plant that's this big. I mean

1511
01:22:24,199 --> 01:22:27,720
it was probably like fifteen feet wide twelve feet tall,

1512
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:33,359
trunk diameter at the base of like sixteen inches. And

1513
01:22:33,399 --> 01:22:35,079
then there was there was one of those in Brownsville too,

1514
01:22:35,079 --> 01:22:38,039
but I think I got destroyed to build a hideous McMansion,

1515
01:22:38,119 --> 01:22:43,840
which is sounds about right for South Texas, for the

1516
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:47,760
developed areas of South Texas. I was so fucking impressed.

1517
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:49,600
And then they had a guahio there too, which is

1518
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:53,239
that multi branched shrub also a legume of the mimosa

1519
01:22:53,319 --> 01:22:58,439
subfamily Senegalia berlandi array, which is such a great plant.

1520
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:00,479
It's so cool and you'll know when you see it

1521
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:02,880
because it's got again multiple stems, it's got this mimosa

1522
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,279
like leaves. It gets about twelve feet tall, and it

1523
01:23:05,399 --> 01:23:09,199
retains the fruits, the fruits which are these woody legumes

1524
01:23:09,199 --> 01:23:13,680
that split open, you know, like a v and drop

1525
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:16,840
all the seeds, the woody fruits, the legume part. The

1526
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:19,800
pod tends to stay on the plant after it's dropped seeds.

1527
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,119
But it was really fucking cool to be there, and

1528
01:23:23,159 --> 01:23:24,880
it was a it's a nice site. They've got a

1529
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:30,720
little shade house to sit under, and uh yeah, I

1530
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:33,880
don't know, so hopefully the guinea grass is really bad

1531
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:35,560
in some areas. But I was telling them. I was like, man,

1532
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,359
why don't you you guys should get some like fiddle wood,

1533
01:23:38,359 --> 01:23:40,279
ice and hardiat text saying, now you get all those

1534
01:23:40,279 --> 01:23:43,199
cool plants, this place will be lit up with cool butterflies.

1535
01:23:43,279 --> 01:23:47,039
You have hummingbirds coming by, you know, because wildlife sees this,

1536
01:23:47,279 --> 01:23:51,520
these spots remembers them and their migratory paths. They'll remember,

1537
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:53,119
you know where, they'll see them from far away as

1538
01:23:53,119 --> 01:23:56,319
they're flying high above, and they'll remember. Okay, they use

1539
01:23:56,359 --> 01:23:59,640
them like stepping stones, you know, to move across the landscape.

1540
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:03,760
It's really important versus just having a giant cleared agricultural

1541
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:07,239
field or a parking lot or something. So hopefully they'll

1542
01:24:07,279 --> 01:24:10,239
do that, and you know, I'll happily volunteer my time

1543
01:24:10,319 --> 01:24:13,359
to plant stuff. I'm really good at digging holes, especially

1544
01:24:13,359 --> 01:24:15,600
if you've got a sharpshoot, one of those narrow shovels.

1545
01:24:16,359 --> 01:24:19,199
But if you're interested in that, I would definitely stop by.

1546
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:23,840
Her house is in Miranda City, Texas, and I would

1547
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:27,600
definitely stop buy it, and I would check out that book.

1548
01:24:28,119 --> 01:24:30,199
I guess you can get it on Scamazon. It's only

1549
01:24:30,239 --> 01:24:33,600
thirty books paperback. Amada's Blessings from the Payote Gardens of

1550
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:37,680
South Texas a lot of cool Texas history. They're a

1551
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:41,479
lot of cool Native American history and a lot of

1552
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:47,960
ethnobotanically very interesting history about the payote plant, which again,

1553
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:50,800
the fact that's psychoactive is the least interesting thing to me.

1554
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:54,279
The ethnobotany is really cool to me. I like that,

1555
01:24:55,079 --> 01:24:58,520
but just being another psychoactive plant whatever, it doesn't matter

1556
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:00,399
to me, which is what I would I was thinking

1557
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,960
when I was looking at this massive crested individual of

1558
01:25:04,039 --> 01:25:08,880
l'afafro Williamzi, the peyote in West Texas on a private

1559
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:14,319
ranch where I've done many surveys and where there's mountain

1560
01:25:14,359 --> 01:25:18,199
lions and it's fucking such a cool area, so rich.

1561
01:25:18,279 --> 01:25:22,359
There's Aerocarpus are just about to start blooming. Aerocarpus phisseratus,

1562
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:24,479
the living rock cacked. I will be standing on top

1563
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:26,600
of one and not know it's there, and then they

1564
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:29,279
all flower in October and you'll just see these little

1565
01:25:29,359 --> 01:25:33,920
pink flags, these little pink flowers sticking up from that

1566
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:38,840
limestone soil that they grow in. Again, Aerocarpus is the

1567
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:43,960
thickest cuticle, that waxy layer, that lipid layer that all

1568
01:25:44,079 --> 01:25:46,640
land plants had to evolve when they evolved out of

1569
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,720
green algae four hundred and fifty million years ago. It's

1570
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:51,960
basically which seals them off from the atmosphere. And I

1571
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:57,279
think in most plants it's only like nine nanometers thick.

1572
01:25:57,399 --> 01:26:00,880
But in the filmy fernstance, I don't have barely of

1573
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:04,520
any there's nothing there, there's no cuticles. They grow in

1574
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:10,640
very wet areas, like temperate rainforest, but in in Aerocarpus,

1575
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:12,800
it's like I think that cuticle is something like two

1576
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:14,880
hundred and fifteen nanimeters thick or something. Don't know. There

1577
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:16,399
was a paper on it. I might be completely full

1578
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:19,800
of shit, but I remember reading a paper on Aerocarpus

1579
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:22,479
has the thickest cuticle of any plant, which makes sense,

1580
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:25,279
especially when you see them dead and all that's left

1581
01:26:25,359 --> 01:26:28,199
the tissue inside has dissolved, and all that's left is

1582
01:26:28,239 --> 01:26:34,039
that really thick, waxy, yellow cuticle. There's such an incredible area, man,

1583
01:26:34,079 --> 01:26:37,359
And yeah, the leucophile of minus was lit up. Menadora

1584
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:41,199
scabra was there. Remember olive family oliac But this was

1585
01:26:41,239 --> 01:26:43,720
not the moth polinated one. This is. It might be

1586
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:46,079
polinated by moths, but probably not as well. No, it's

1587
01:26:46,079 --> 01:26:48,399
got an open flower, it doesn't have that narrow tube

1588
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:52,720
opening at the end. Menadora scabra was there. There was

1589
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,279
so much good shit in this area. And I was

1590
01:26:56,079 --> 01:26:59,920
out there looking for this crest and found Oh yeah,

1591
01:27:00,079 --> 01:27:04,560
Forbia anti cyphialitica was going off too. The green straw Euphorbia,

1592
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:07,600
which you actually do see in a lot of native

1593
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:10,920
plant landscaping. I see it used in fucking Tucson, of

1594
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:14,840
all places. It's more common in landscaping in the places

1595
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,199
where it's not even native than it is in West

1596
01:27:17,319 --> 01:27:21,640
in Texas. Texas is dropping a ball, man. People gotta

1597
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:24,159
make people got to get into this, start growing everything.

1598
01:27:24,239 --> 01:27:29,000
Fuck it, you know. I just picked up some nice

1599
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:32,359
horse cripplers from my friend Zech, some nice Homocephala Texana.

1600
01:27:32,399 --> 01:27:36,239
He got a bunch. He was growing stuff and doing

1601
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:38,600
native landscaping for a while and then just kind of

1602
01:27:39,399 --> 01:27:40,680
life caught up with him. He got a bunch of

1603
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:42,760
shitt he had to do, and these things were just

1604
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:45,960
slowly not dying because they're cactive, but some of the

1605
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:48,159
other plants were starting to root themselves through the pot

1606
01:27:48,199 --> 01:27:53,239
into the ground, and he ended up he just gave

1607
01:27:53,359 --> 01:27:55,319
him away. He was like, fucking I'm just I'm you know,

1608
01:27:55,479 --> 01:28:04,399
I'm torturing these things. So it was, you know, anyway, Yeah,

1609
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:07,479
so I'm gonna do. I think I'm gonna take those

1610
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:10,000
horse cripplers. Man, these butterflies are just going nuts, these

1611
01:28:10,039 --> 01:28:13,880
fucking zebra swallowtails. I'm gonna plant these horse cripplers out

1612
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:17,199
in West Texas. You know, normally, I don't care about

1613
01:28:17,199 --> 01:28:20,640
the ecotype thing. If a native plant is a native plant,

1614
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:22,840
that's what works for me. But obviously with the West

1615
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:26,920
Texas South Texas, how different they are, how different the

1616
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:29,119
habitats are and how much it dries out. There's a

1617
01:28:29,119 --> 01:28:32,319
difference in temperature and there's a difference in humidity. I think,

1618
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:35,079
definitely think it makes more sense to use West Texas ecotypes.

1619
01:28:35,159 --> 01:28:39,720
But of course horse cripplers are pretty widespread. God, the

1620
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,600
Zinnia anomala is fucking dope too. It's a really cool

1621
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,720
plant that's also by the Prairie Dog Town north of Marathon,

1622
01:28:46,279 --> 01:28:51,119
little orange flowered zinia that's got vestigial ray floor. It's

1623
01:28:51,199 --> 01:28:54,560
vestigial lgules. So it's like a daisy that only produces

1624
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:58,039
like well, it's a tiny orange daisy. Because remember with

1625
01:28:58,199 --> 01:29:00,880
as racy, I got disc florets and you got ray floor.

1626
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:05,039
Its ray aka legulate flor It's ray is illegal, A

1627
01:29:05,159 --> 01:29:08,960
ray is illegal, and so anyway, this thing, you know,

1628
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:12,039
would be like a daisy that produces rays those petals

1629
01:29:12,119 --> 01:29:14,600
but only has they're not really petals, but daisy that

1630
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:18,800
produces rays but only produces like a quarter of the

1631
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:20,840
normal amount of rays and they come out kind of weird.

1632
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,039
It's I don't know genetically what codes for that or

1633
01:29:23,039 --> 01:29:25,640
why that's happening. I've seen it with a species of Lasthenia,

1634
01:29:26,279 --> 01:29:29,159
which is a genus of aster Racy. I saw that

1635
01:29:29,319 --> 01:29:31,319
and actually at the I think it was at the

1636
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:34,199
one of the serpentine sites in the Coast Ranges. I

1637
01:29:34,239 --> 01:29:36,079
think it was with Ryan O'Dell when I saw that.

1638
01:29:37,319 --> 01:29:40,279
But yeah, but it's a cool phenomenon. It's a cool

1639
01:29:40,279 --> 01:29:42,680
plant that's only known from a few places northern Mexico

1640
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,319
and West Texas. But that's like, all the cool plants

1641
01:29:45,319 --> 01:29:47,760
in West Texas are also distributed in Mexico, you know.

1642
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:49,920
In fact, and for many of them, most of the

1643
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:53,920
population is in Mexico. Most of the distributions in Mexico,

1644
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:56,640
I know, you get a handful of sites in Texas.

1645
01:29:57,399 --> 01:30:00,560
It just proves to you how silly the geopolitical boundaries

1646
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:03,439
that the humans makeup can be. I'm not saying silly,

1647
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:05,840
but just that they are fucking made up, you know.

1648
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:10,439
Oh God, But immigration works as a political tool when

1649
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:12,159
you're trying to get elected, even if you don't really

1650
01:30:12,159 --> 01:30:14,560
care about the issue. It's a great way to work

1651
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:21,239
people up. Anyway. Uh, we disagree on that, that's fine,

1652
01:30:21,279 --> 01:30:22,760
we don't need to agree. I don't give a shit.

1653
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:25,359
It doesn't matter. Let's just talk about plants. Just keep it,

1654
01:30:25,399 --> 01:30:29,760
you know, let's talk more rock or let's talk more

1655
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:34,920
incoherent rambling disjointed rambling about plants. And with that, I

1656
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:38,079
will cut it short here. Thanks for listening. Email me

1657
01:30:38,119 --> 01:30:39,880
if you want Crime pays a bound he doesn't at

1658
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:42,159
gmail dot com. Allow me four to six weeks to

1659
01:30:42,199 --> 01:30:46,319
respond because I'm busy as fuck, and keep it short.

1660
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:50,479
And I got giving tree stickers to giving the finger

1661
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:53,840
tree stickers, you know, shel Silverstein's famous book, and my

1662
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:59,000
my twist on it, my drawing, and I'm gonna be

1663
01:30:59,039 --> 01:31:04,119
presenting give it a presentation on cacti at San Antonio

1664
01:31:04,159 --> 01:31:06,840
Botanic Garden on the twenty sixth. And I'll be in

1665
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:10,520
Oklahoma City at the Oklahoma City Fungus Fair in October twelfth,

1666
01:31:11,079 --> 01:31:14,039
and then I'll be at be in the Bay Area

1667
01:31:14,119 --> 01:31:18,479
in early November for the Antheogen Expo. And then I

1668
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:22,520
can't wait to fucking just be done with everything in

1669
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:26,600
December and then start traveling again. So that's all I got.

1670
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:28,880
Have a grocery day, Go fuck us up by grow

1671
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:30,840
more natives should be collecting seed right now, by the way,

1672
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:31,800
all right, go fuck us up by