WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:10.000 Mhm h. 2 00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:22.359 H. 3 00:00:48.159 --> 00:00:53.119 Welcome to the Typical Skeptica chest, where we don't side 4 00:00:53.880 --> 00:00:57.000 questioning the matrix from you wear phones with shuttles and 5 00:00:57.200 --> 00:01:00.399 umbersides on the side, on the same roil. 6 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:02.520 Us some myths like ghosts in the night You have 7 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:05.480 a normal pros in secret space outs. 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Welcome to Typical Skeptic podcast. 20 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:56.959 Be sure to like, subscribe and turn on notifications. 21 00:02:19.280 --> 00:02:22.439 Any Guy's Welcome back to another episode of the Scilly podcast. 22 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:26.280 I'm really excited about my last night. It's been about 23 00:02:26.319 --> 00:02:28.960 the fourth or five times she's been on my show, 24 00:02:29.039 --> 00:02:32.240 she said. Frequent guest and always a fan favorite. Is 25 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:35.159 Mary Joyce from the Sky Shifts of her Cashiers Night. 26 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:37.360 We're gonna be talking about Shared the Little People and 27 00:02:37.479 --> 00:02:42.360 are new basis and Mary has a story that she's 28 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:44.840 put away that she can bring it out now she's 29 00:02:44.879 --> 00:02:47.759 actually met a shared erse and it's gonna be really 30 00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:51.240 interesting to hear what she says, what I wrote, I investigats, 31 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:54.840 author research and Mary Joyce rejourney the Skilly podcast or 32 00:02:54.840 --> 00:02:58.080 another journey into the mysteries of hid Earth and Human Night. 33 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:01.360 Mary will share learning Marvel's story a personal meeting with 34 00:03:01.520 --> 00:03:04.919 the Cherokee middle person. But she hunter was the mysterious 35 00:03:05.000 --> 00:03:07.199 being looked like? And how is her experience? Can I 36 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:10.319 get Cherokee with curious surrounding the little People? And we're 37 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:15.199 also messing in Antarctica and uh you know New Masons 38 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:20.680 as Uhbout's Finding the Sky which one of married very 39 00:03:20.719 --> 00:03:23.719 has five book she is up the big Foot books. 40 00:03:23.719 --> 00:03:27.879 You just find the Sky, Cherokee Little People, one of 41 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:32.240 the tangiblevings of Jesus and and uh and n Maces 42 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:34.919 in North Carolina and I think that's all of them 43 00:03:34.960 --> 00:03:36.560 in yet. And I'm gonna read her in the stage 44 00:03:36.599 --> 00:03:39.000 now and you can find her at the sky shifts over. 45 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:40.039 Cashiers dot com. 46 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:43.360 And uh, I'm really excited to have her marry things 47 00:03:43.400 --> 00:03:44.360 so much to come back on? 48 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:45.840 Are you hi? 49 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:47.840 I need to check with the technical start. 50 00:03:48.240 --> 00:03:51.400 Your voice is sounding really peculiar when I hear it. 51 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:53.639 Am I sounding normal? 52 00:03:55.759 --> 00:03:55.919 Yeah? 53 00:03:56.120 --> 00:03:56.360 Sound? 54 00:03:56.719 --> 00:03:56.919 Yeah? 55 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:01.800 Okay, all right, go on. 56 00:04:01.960 --> 00:04:03.360 It's weird, but you're not. 57 00:04:03.520 --> 00:04:07.439 You're sounding like you've got gravel in your throat and 58 00:04:07.639 --> 00:04:08.919 mine sounds like that now. 59 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:12.039 To yeah, we changed. 60 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:23.560 It's always somebody messing with me, you know, I can't. 61 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:30.839 Is it better? 62 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:31.079 Now? 63 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:32.000 Now? 64 00:04:32.120 --> 00:04:32.439 You sound? 65 00:04:32.519 --> 00:04:32.639 Now? 66 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:37.240 You sound normal? Okay? Right, all right? Janzo, Man, it's 67 00:04:37.279 --> 00:04:40.079 like there's it's always like someone's messing with you know something. 68 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:42.279 It's insane. I don't understand it. You know. It's like 69 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:45.040 it's always some kind of weird targeting, you know, like 70 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:46.959 it's weird, like this is a new computer. And I 71 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:49.800 already noticed like Streamlind's starting to run slower and it's 72 00:04:49.839 --> 00:04:52.160 harder for me to play my intros. And there should 73 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:53.920 be no reason why I don't do anything but stream 74 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:56.959 on this computer. So so there's like no tangible reason 75 00:04:57.000 --> 00:04:59.639 why it should be running slower. You know, I don't know. 76 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:01.920 Is that the reason that the reason that was? 77 00:05:02.920 --> 00:05:08.759 Now I'm yeah, you're getting an echo? Yes, yes, okay, 78 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:11.399 let me let me fix it hard? Sorry, let me 79 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:15.600 I'll reduce I re released background noise on mine. Let 80 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:20.480 me reduce background noise on yours. It says it's a story. 81 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:21.800 I already ate that. But do you want me to 82 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:23.560 try my phone and see if that works better? 83 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:28.560 Let me see if let me see if I get 84 00:05:28.560 --> 00:05:31.240 here I'm getting I'm getting that echo. 85 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:34.079 Okay, let me see if my phone will work better. 86 00:05:34.279 --> 00:05:36.040 I'm coming in on my phone. Give me one second. 87 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:38.480 I'll be right back, but I'm right here. 88 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:47.839 This is it? Is that let me remove this person? 89 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:50.240 Is that better? Mary? 90 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:54.360 Yeah, let's see if I echo hello, Hello, you. 91 00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:55.120 Sound good to me. 92 00:05:55.600 --> 00:05:57.639 Okay, I guess this is the way we're gonna do it. 93 00:05:58.160 --> 00:05:59.800 Does this mean you want to start at. 94 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:04.000 Now? Your volume went out? Like so it's like someone's 95 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:10.079 messing with the volume. Well, Mary, can you hear me? 96 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:11.279 I can hear you. 97 00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:16.720 Okay, Sorry, now we're good, okay, yeah, so I'm so 98 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:24.560 now you're gone Okay, we're good. Now, we're good. Yeah, okay, 99 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:28.399 So how are you? 100 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:32.279 Besides, I'm sorry that started with a whole mess like that, 101 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:33.959 but it looks like maybe we're gonna make it. 102 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:37.839 Yeah yeah, Well, I do believe it's some kind of 103 00:06:37.879 --> 00:06:40.680 weird targeting, and I wonder why other podcasters don't get it, 104 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:43.519 you know, I often wonder about that, you know, But 105 00:06:43.759 --> 00:06:45.680 I mean there's nothing I can do except, you know, 106 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:47.000 just kind of keep moving on. 107 00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:47.319 You know. 108 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:50.959 Uh, You're not the only one that has problems, So 109 00:06:51.240 --> 00:06:53.279 don't feel like you've been singled out. 110 00:06:55.399 --> 00:06:55.600 Yeah. 111 00:06:55.680 --> 00:06:59.519 Oh, I do think sometimes the topics will send up 112 00:06:59.560 --> 00:07:03.399 a flare into the air, and there are some interference, 113 00:07:03.480 --> 00:07:05.959 may be because of the topics that you choose to 114 00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:06.519 talk about. 115 00:07:07.279 --> 00:07:10.639 Yeah yeah, I think so too. Yeah, so how are you? 116 00:07:10.720 --> 00:07:11.720 What's how's everything going? 117 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:15.680 I can't complain. We've got everything working. 118 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:18.519 Now, so let's go for it. Yeah yeah. So okay, 119 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:19.519 Cherokee little People. 120 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:22.959 We know that you wrote the book about Cherokee little 121 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:25.360 pickle people, but now you're coming out and saying you've 122 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:28.600 actually met a Cherokee little person like tell us about this. 123 00:07:28.759 --> 00:07:29.800 It sounds fascinating. 124 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:33.800 This just got posted on my website late yesterday, and 125 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:36.279 so it's a story that's been sitting in my drawer 126 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:40.120 since twenty fourteen, that's twelve years. And I did it 127 00:07:40.279 --> 00:07:44.279 because the parents of the little person didn't want their 128 00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:48.079 privacy invaded. The grandmother, who has a much wider vision 129 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:50.879 of what's going on in the world, thought this was 130 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:52.959 important for people to know, which is the reason I 131 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:54.240 wrote the article originally. 132 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:56.040 And it all started. 133 00:07:55.720 --> 00:07:58.439 Because one day she just said to me, I think 134 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:01.480 my granddaughter may be a little now that I didn't 135 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:06.360 immediately buy that, but needlessly we had, you know, many 136 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:10.000 conversations after that. Now here's some interesting stuff for those 137 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:15.680 who tend to be skeptics. This little person was studied 138 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:19.879 by the chief of pediatrics at two North Carolina hospitals, 139 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:24.920 Mission Hospital in Asheville and Bowman Gray Hospital in Winston Salem. 140 00:08:25.879 --> 00:08:28.480 They literally spent years testing here, and some of the 141 00:08:28.839 --> 00:08:32.279 tests themselves went on for months at a time. They 142 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:36.519 were totally befuddled, and they ended up sending their test 143 00:08:36.639 --> 00:08:40.440 results to some place in England. I wish that the 144 00:08:40.519 --> 00:08:45.759 grandmother could have remembered what university or hospital it was 145 00:08:45.799 --> 00:08:47.440 sent to, because it was probably one of the big 146 00:08:47.519 --> 00:08:51.480 ones that they couldn't solve the things here, but all 147 00:08:51.559 --> 00:08:54.840 of their research showed that she was not a midget 148 00:08:55.200 --> 00:08:58.200 and she was not a dwarf. They could absolutely could 149 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:02.120 not figure her out. And the grandmother said that they 150 00:09:02.279 --> 00:09:07.720 tested her bones, her hormones, just anything they could think of. 151 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:09.919 They even gave her a growth hormone and it had 152 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:15.200 absolutely no impact on her. So I found that real interesting. 153 00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:18.120 The first time that I met her was the grandmother 154 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:22.000 brought her in where I was working, and she was 155 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:25.080 about fourteen or fifteen years old at the time, and 156 00:09:25.679 --> 00:09:28.919 she was wearing sunglasses, but there were granny sunglasses and 157 00:09:29.080 --> 00:09:34.480 she could just barely peek over the counter. And when 158 00:09:34.559 --> 00:09:38.360 she was born, she was so tiny that the grandmother 159 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:41.759 had to go out and buy cabbage patch doll clothes 160 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:45.159 and plastic doll shoes to take her home from the 161 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:49.720 hospital because even the infant clothing at the hospital fell 162 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:52.159 slipped right off of her it was too big. So 163 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:56.399 she was born tiny and she stayed tiny. And at 164 00:09:56.440 --> 00:10:00.720 the time I met her, she was wearing size jeans, 165 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:03.720 and so for a fourteen or fifteen year old, that's 166 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:09.679 pretty darn small. So the size was absolutely a factor, 167 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:13.799 and some of the stories get kind of interesting. Two 168 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:17.200 of them are grocery store stories. The grandmother took I'll 169 00:10:17.240 --> 00:10:20.679 call her Lily, took Lily with her to the grocery store, 170 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:23.759 and at that time she was about the size of 171 00:10:23.799 --> 00:10:26.519 a six month old, but she was way beyond that, 172 00:10:27.320 --> 00:10:30.960 and so she's holding her lily in her arms. And 173 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:35.000 when they were checking out Lily, the little one said 174 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:37.919 I'll take the change. Well, it floored the cashier because 175 00:10:38.360 --> 00:10:43.039 this sounded like somebody much older than a six month old. Another, 176 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:45.919 and I'll give you a quote on this one, she said, Granny, 177 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:48.039 pick me up and put me in the basket or 178 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:50.600 the shopping basket. I get so tired of shopping on 179 00:10:50.679 --> 00:10:53.120 the bottom shelves. I want to see what's up there. 180 00:10:53.720 --> 00:10:56.200 And at that time she was a teenager and she 181 00:10:56.440 --> 00:10:59.519 wasn't as tall as the shopping cart, so she was 182 00:10:59.639 --> 00:11:05.440 tiny all of her life. Another thing that was very 183 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:09.759 unusual about her is that she was very sensitive to light. 184 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:12.759 And the grandmother said, for the longest time they thought 185 00:11:12.799 --> 00:11:15.360 she was just shy because she would constantly be covering 186 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:19.600 her eyes. And it was because of the sensitivity of light. 187 00:11:19.919 --> 00:11:22.679 And in my book, Cherokee little people were real. I 188 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:26.879 got confirmation that the little people lived underground, they came 189 00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:29.559 out at night to tend to their gardens, and that 190 00:11:29.679 --> 00:11:30.639 the light bothered them. 191 00:11:30.759 --> 00:11:32.279 So she was. 192 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:35.840 Right there in front of me, and she was having 193 00:11:35.879 --> 00:11:40.840 the same experiences that I had been writing about. Another 194 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:44.039 thing that was unusual was she was a natural vegetarian, 195 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:49.879 and the grandmother said that when everybody else in the 196 00:11:49.919 --> 00:11:53.440 family was eating meat and junk food, Lily only ate 197 00:11:53.799 --> 00:11:58.759 vegetables and she didn't like sugar. That in itself is 198 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:03.519 kind of unique. And she had an interesting thing regarding 199 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:08.519 her ancestry. Her father was Hawaiian, her mother was Cherokee. 200 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:12.279 Both cultures have the little people, so we began to 201 00:12:12.320 --> 00:12:16.240 speculate that maybe the recessive gene from both sides of 202 00:12:17.759 --> 00:12:21.360 the family manifested as Lily as this little person. 203 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:26.120 Yes, so the Hawaiians have their version of these little 204 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:30.480 people as well. We never talked about that. Say that again, please, 205 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:36.679 So the Hawaiian people have their Yes they do. H Wow, 206 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:38.080 that's fascinating. 207 00:12:38.840 --> 00:12:40.919 And there's there's little people that are found in many 208 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:44.320 cultures around the world, but this one was kind of 209 00:12:44.399 --> 00:12:47.759 interesting to mix those two cultures. And at first I 210 00:12:47.879 --> 00:12:53.200 thought that the grandmother had misspoken because she kept referring 211 00:12:53.279 --> 00:12:56.000 to the little people as the men of hewn. That's 212 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:59.320 the Hawaiian word for little people. So they must have 213 00:12:59.559 --> 00:13:02.440 just got up to the father's word for little people 214 00:13:02.559 --> 00:13:03.720 rather than the Cherokee word. 215 00:13:04.759 --> 00:13:09.440 Yeah, yeah, wow, that's did they did? She? 216 00:13:09.559 --> 00:13:11.519 Have they ever say anything about that they had like 217 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:13.919 a connection to enter earth there, because I remember we 218 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:17.720 thought that maybe these Cherokee little people were living underground, 219 00:13:17.840 --> 00:13:18.840 right they are. 220 00:13:19.320 --> 00:13:21.240 Yes, all the tunnels that I write about in my 221 00:13:21.320 --> 00:13:24.600 book are underground, but they're not deep underground. We're not 222 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:28.639 talking people living in deep, deep caves. In fact, where 223 00:13:28.679 --> 00:13:32.639 we found what must have been a little people town 224 00:13:32.799 --> 00:13:36.000 or city at one point is where Western Carolina University 225 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:40.679 is located now. And whenever they were digging what they 226 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:43.799 thought was virgin soil to build new buildings, they would 227 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:45.720 find these little tunnels. And they were cut out of 228 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:50.240 red clay fairly close to the surface. And I know 229 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:52.279 you know this, but they were cut square, but it 230 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:57.519 was a rounded top to these tunnels, which makes them stronger. 231 00:13:57.799 --> 00:14:01.759 But they were found all over the campus and certainly 232 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:08.960 other places too, you know, not too far from there. Yeah, well, 233 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:11.039 I wanted to get in there. I know you want 234 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:12.759 to talk about the moon and all of that, so 235 00:14:12.759 --> 00:14:14.759 I'm trying to get through this kind of quickly for you. 236 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:20.279 They tested the lily's immune system, and she had an 237 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:23.000 immune system, but it didn't protect her from all the 238 00:14:23.080 --> 00:14:27.679 things that you know, human children get, So she wouldn't 239 00:14:27.720 --> 00:14:30.039 last more than like a week at school, and she'd 240 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:32.840 get some kind of respiratory problem, and so they ended 241 00:14:32.919 --> 00:14:39.879 up having to homeschooler. And I was able to see 242 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:43.679 her death certificate and she died at the age of eighteen, 243 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:47.080 so about three years after I met her, from acute 244 00:14:47.159 --> 00:14:52.600 respiratory distress, septic shock, and bacterial pneumonia. And again we 245 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:56.559 speculated that maybe most of the little people died off 246 00:14:56.639 --> 00:14:58.879 because they didn't have an immune system that would fight 247 00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:01.159 off the German that we have in our culture. 248 00:15:02.279 --> 00:15:04.759 Well, do you think they they're nonexistent out to this 249 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:05.840 day or do you think they. 250 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:10.159 I've learned. I've learned that they there are still little people, 251 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:16.240 but they stay to themselves, and you know, but they're 252 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:20.039 still here. When I wrote my book Cherokee People Were Real, 253 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:22.840 which was published the same year that I wrote this 254 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:27.000 article about this little person, I really thought I was 255 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:30.320 dealing with something that was simply in the past. And 256 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:34.039 after I came out with the book The Cherokee around 257 00:15:34.080 --> 00:15:37.559 Here and I live in Cherokee Country in Western Carolina, 258 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:41.159 and they began to realize I wasn't going to make 259 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:43.480 fun of them, and they began to tell me some 260 00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:46.399 of their stories, and they're really kind of cute stories. 261 00:15:47.519 --> 00:15:50.559 One Gal, and these are all stories that aren't. 262 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:50.639 In the book. 263 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:55.080 One Gal told me that they her family had a 264 00:15:55.159 --> 00:15:57.960 place up in Big Cove. Big Cove is a more 265 00:15:58.039 --> 00:16:03.000 remote part of the Cherokee home base, and so they 266 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:05.440 would keep a little trailer up there so that when 267 00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:08.120 they would have family gatherings, they would have a restroom 268 00:16:08.159 --> 00:16:10.879 and they would have a kitchen to fix food for everybody. Well, 269 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:14.559 the kids were playing hide and seek, and this particular 270 00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:18.799 little girl went to hide in the shower of the trailer, 271 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:23.679 and when he pulled back the curtain there was little person, 272 00:16:23.759 --> 00:16:26.600 a little man, just smiling, grin grinned, you know, from 273 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:29.200 ear to ear, and I guess he simply wanted to 274 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:30.399 play with the kids. 275 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:31.480 But it scared her to death. 276 00:16:31.600 --> 00:16:37.960 She said she went running to her daddy. And another 277 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:41.840 another story is from a woman who again lives in 278 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:44.360 the main part of Cherokee, but she has an aunt 279 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:47.840 and uncle that lived in an even more remote area, 280 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:53.440 and she was staying with them overnight, and her uncle 281 00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:57.039 said that he'd proved to her that the little people 282 00:16:57.159 --> 00:17:01.000 came to their house and he spread flower all over 283 00:17:01.200 --> 00:17:03.039 either the front porch or the deck. I don't know 284 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:05.000 what it was, but he spread the flower all over, 285 00:17:06.440 --> 00:17:09.880 and in the morning there were little, tiny footprints all 286 00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:14.400 all over where the flower had been tossed. And again 287 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:19.480 it's among among the old time Cherokee. They will still 288 00:17:19.559 --> 00:17:22.640 put out food at night for the little people, and 289 00:17:23.759 --> 00:17:26.000 the little people are known for throwing pebbles on the 290 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:27.200 roof if they're forgotten. 291 00:17:28.359 --> 00:17:33.160 Wow, that's fascinating. Like what did the Cherokee elders a 292 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:35.640 historians say about the little people? Do they do they 293 00:17:35.680 --> 00:17:36.839 ever have contact with them? 294 00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:41.519 The Cherokee tribes and the people who are Cherokee, they 295 00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:43.799 accept that there's there's no doubt among them at all. 296 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:47.279 In fact, at one point I interviewed the great great 297 00:17:47.559 --> 00:17:53.240 granddaughter of Sally. Sally is regarded as the number one 298 00:17:53.359 --> 00:17:58.079 hero among the Cherokee, and she spoke an educated woman, 299 00:17:58.160 --> 00:18:01.039 I mean, she was somehow involved with the hospital and 300 00:18:02.119 --> 00:18:05.279 teaching something in the medical field, so she was not 301 00:18:05.400 --> 00:18:06.160 a dumb person. 302 00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:07.279 But she. 303 00:18:09.640 --> 00:18:11.400 Absolutely believed in the little people. 304 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:12.599 And she said that. 305 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:17.839 She also believed that the Cherokee came from the Pleiodes, 306 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:25.039 which is a star cluster, and many of their origin 307 00:18:25.160 --> 00:18:30.160 stories talk about the Seven Sisters. The Seven Sisters refer 308 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:33.559 to the seven main stars of the Pleiades, and so 309 00:18:33.720 --> 00:18:38.160 they hide some of their teachings in the seven Sister story. 310 00:18:39.480 --> 00:18:40.880 Wow, that's interesting. 311 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:43.440 Now, would you say that the Cherokee little people they 312 00:18:43.440 --> 00:18:52.079 are generally considered helpful, dangerous, mischievous or uh And and yeah, I. 313 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:56.079 Hear the thing about the mischievous thing with the little people. 314 00:18:56.200 --> 00:18:59.200 I don't think most people run into that. The only 315 00:18:59.279 --> 00:19:02.000 time I've ever heard a really kind of bad, negative 316 00:19:02.039 --> 00:19:04.079 story about the little people was when I was out 317 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:08.480 in South Dakota and I got to meet the daughter 318 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:12.640 of a shaman and she told me the story of 319 00:19:13.079 --> 00:19:17.880 her cousins swimming in a creek out there and going 320 00:19:18.519 --> 00:19:21.119 around and they found a cave off the side of 321 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:23.880 one of the creeks, and they went in it and 322 00:19:23.960 --> 00:19:26.640 it was a little cave, and they found a quiver, 323 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:30.960 arrows and a bow, and they took it. They took 324 00:19:31.039 --> 00:19:34.519 these things, and when the grandfather found out they'd done it, 325 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:37.079 he said, you take those back. You know, we're going 326 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:40.480 to have trouble. And for a while the little people 327 00:19:40.599 --> 00:19:44.440 were killing their chickens and just doing annoying things. But 328 00:19:44.559 --> 00:19:47.319 I actually sympathize with them. When you're that little and 329 00:19:47.400 --> 00:19:50.480 the big people are picking on you, that's one way 330 00:19:50.559 --> 00:19:53.880 to get them to stop and think about not bothering you. 331 00:19:54.839 --> 00:19:55.960 But they didn't last long. 332 00:19:56.119 --> 00:19:58.680 It was just like to let them know, you better 333 00:19:58.759 --> 00:20:02.480 not mess with our stuff. That's the story i've heard. 334 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:05.680 Are they very dependent on us, on humans or are 335 00:20:05.720 --> 00:20:07.119 they pretty much self sustaining? 336 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:10.200 Self sustaining From what I can see, though, I think 337 00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:12.279 they must enjoy the extra food that's put. 338 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:15.160 Out there, and they're mostly vegetarian. 339 00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:19.799 You said, well, I can't swear by that, but that 340 00:20:19.960 --> 00:20:22.680 certainly was true with Lily. I mean, for to be 341 00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:26.519 around people a family that eats meat and as the 342 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:29.480 grandmother said, loves junk food, and she didn't get into 343 00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:34.079 any of that. That's that's peculiar in and of itself. 344 00:20:35.400 --> 00:20:39.920 Yeah, do you do you think Karen McDonald says s 345 00:20:40.039 --> 00:20:42.440 I and I x t here they're connected to the 346 00:20:42.519 --> 00:20:43.440 Pleadians as well. 347 00:20:43.599 --> 00:20:45.359 She said, it is interesting. 348 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:48.000 She said that the Star Nations of Dakota near that sector, 349 00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:50.519 seven Sisters snow White and the seven Dwarfs. 350 00:20:50.559 --> 00:20:52.839 She said, he's kind of the story right like that. 351 00:20:53.039 --> 00:20:56.880 It's I never connected those two, but that's very interesting. 352 00:20:57.920 --> 00:20:59.759 Yeah, yeah, that's very interesting. 353 00:21:01.400 --> 00:21:03.759 And guys, if you're watching on YouTube, leave a comment 354 00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:05.759 on the rumble stream. I have to get seventy five 355 00:21:05.880 --> 00:21:08.079 unique chatters a month, so you know, just leave the 356 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:09.160 comment on the rumble stream. 357 00:21:09.240 --> 00:21:14.440 Thanks to everybody who did. And uh waiting the lighting 358 00:21:14.480 --> 00:21:17.119 the dark Remote Union says, is there a Native American 359 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:17.759 name for them? 360 00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:18.440 Or is it? 361 00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:20.119 Do they have? Is the do we know? 362 00:21:20.880 --> 00:21:23.400 Each tribe seems to have their own name. I do 363 00:21:23.559 --> 00:21:26.319 not know how to pronounce it in the Cherokee language, 364 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:28.960 but they have a Cherokee word for the little people 365 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:33.240 around here. Even the Cherokee themselves refer to them as 366 00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:36.599 the little people. Only a few people used the real name. 367 00:21:36.920 --> 00:21:39.440 And like I already mentioned, the in hawaiither call them 368 00:21:40.519 --> 00:21:41.319 many human. 369 00:21:42.119 --> 00:21:43.480 The many here. That's interesting. 370 00:21:44.720 --> 00:21:47.759 And then are there certain mountains, caves or waterways for 371 00:21:47.880 --> 00:21:50.440 underground locations traditionally associated with them. 372 00:21:50.480 --> 00:21:51.079 You'd say. 373 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:55.200 This is true of the little people, and it's true 374 00:21:55.240 --> 00:21:59.279 of the Bigfoot. You will find them in rocky mountain places, 375 00:21:59.319 --> 00:22:02.960 where there's natural caves that they can get into, where 376 00:22:02.960 --> 00:22:08.359 there's water, where there's some forest. That's common to both 377 00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:09.599 the big Foot and the little people. 378 00:22:10.680 --> 00:22:12.440 Do you think the little people are prone to like 379 00:22:12.559 --> 00:22:15.519 predatory attacks a lot, like even like from otate big 380 00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:19.279 birds or owls or something like that, like because they're smaller. 381 00:22:19.920 --> 00:22:22.079 Well they're about three and a half feet tall, so 382 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:24.359 you have to be a pretty big bird to pick 383 00:22:24.440 --> 00:22:24.799 one up. 384 00:22:25.559 --> 00:22:25.759 Yeah. 385 00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:28.079 I don't really think that's a problem that they have. 386 00:22:30.319 --> 00:22:33.519 I haven't heard of them, but probably other other things 387 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:37.960 like wolves or bears or whatever else is in that area, right, 388 00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:38.799 I'm not sure. 389 00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:43.440 Remember they remember out in South Dakota they had bows 390 00:22:43.480 --> 00:22:46.839 and arrows, so they were able to defend themselves. And 391 00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:50.440 they can go underground. I'm sure they have ways of 392 00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:54.559 preventing people from other creatures from getting in there where 393 00:22:54.599 --> 00:22:54.880 they are. 394 00:22:57.079 --> 00:22:59.480 Do you know if they've ever had contact with any 395 00:22:59.519 --> 00:23:03.720 other kind of like cryptoterrestrial civilization since they're underground. 396 00:23:05.440 --> 00:23:06.920 If they have, I've not heard about it. 397 00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:13.359 Yeah, yeah, Wow, well this is fascinating. Like I'm trying 398 00:23:13.400 --> 00:23:15.720 to think of what other questions to ask about this is? 399 00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:19.240 I mean, it's and do you do you believe they 400 00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:22.599 communicate verbally telepathy or both. 401 00:23:23.880 --> 00:23:27.279