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<v Speaker 1>Clutching the hallway, stains on the sheets.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just cool, creepy.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome to dem horble, carnation on caspre sad the James,

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<v Speaker 5>the Lord and the factors.

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<v Speaker 2>still knows my name, still knows my name?

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, and welcome back to another episode of Deplorable Nation.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm your host, Deplorable Janet, and today, ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 3>boys and girls, fans of all ages, shapes and sizes,

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<v Speaker 3>we are back with another installment in our episodes for

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<v Speaker 3>February about questionable facillit. So today we're talking about santion

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<v Speaker 3>neglect inside nursing homes.

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<v Speaker 6>And welcome back to my beautiful, intelligent, fabulously lovely miss Heidi.

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<v Speaker 6>How are you, darling?

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<v Speaker 4>I thank you, miss Janet. You're always so good to me.

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<v Speaker 4>Janet is also fabulous, fantastic and amazing and pretty smart,

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<v Speaker 4>so don't count her out. Absolutely not. It's a mistake.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a club. Yeah, it's smart, well wicked, smart too.

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<v Speaker 4>Even though we might not look at I promise we

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<v Speaker 4>can do some things.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we can definitely do some things.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, never underestimate the power of the twinsies.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right. We're like the twins on Arnold Schwartzenegger and

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<v Speaker 4>Danny Dipto.

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<v Speaker 6>That's true.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all.

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<v Speaker 6>That's true.

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<v Speaker 4>This, Even though this is a sad situation that we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to talk about today, I'm glad we're doing it

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<v Speaker 4>because this situation is just out of hand. And even

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<v Speaker 4>though we're going to go into like how it was reformed,

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<v Speaker 4>it's still out of hand.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say later on, when we get further

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<v Speaker 3>down the rabbit hole into things, I'm going to share

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<v Speaker 3>because I had to do a lot of rotations and

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<v Speaker 3>nursing homes and I decided way back then that that

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<v Speaker 3>was not the place for me.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, take me out back and shoot me first.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was not my cup of tea. Now, could

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<v Speaker 3>they use good workers, yes, But because of the way

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<v Speaker 3>things are set up, even though there's wink wink oversight

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<v Speaker 3>and things are supposed to be better running more smoothly.

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<v Speaker 3>They are literally the worst places in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's just like cattle or the dog pound. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they actually treat animals that the dog pound

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<v Speaker 3>better than they treat nursing home patients.

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<v Speaker 4>So we used to go we used to go visit

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<v Speaker 4>my aunt there long time ago, probably like mid nineties,

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<v Speaker 4>and I just remember half dressed people in the hallways,

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<v Speaker 4>screaming for help, the smell of piss just it was

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<v Speaker 4>like overwhelming. And I already get overstimulated pretty easy, like ah,

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<v Speaker 4>people screaming whatever. And I have worked in some of them.

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<v Speaker 4>And the thing that makes you feel the worst is,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, typically when I did agency, you know, you

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<v Speaker 4>would get one full haul and you would have like

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<v Speaker 4>ivs and pick lines, and it complicated dressings and tons

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<v Speaker 4>of insulin dependent diabetics which nobody's checking insulin with you,

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<v Speaker 4>and like all this crazy stuff. And then you I've

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<v Speaker 4>got like a total of forty people to give meds to,

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<v Speaker 4>and the CNAs want help, and you want to help them.

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<v Speaker 4>But the problem is if you stop this guy that

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<v Speaker 4>needs his desperate medication for antibiotics, or I'll never whatever

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<v Speaker 4>it's gonna be late, and so you would sometimes have

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<v Speaker 4>to say, you know, I'm so sorry, like I'll have

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<v Speaker 4>to go get the aid or whatever. Like the one

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<v Speaker 4>exception for me is I will always help someone to

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<v Speaker 4>the bathroom because that's just not okay, the dignity issue there.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to make somebody have a problem in

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<v Speaker 4>their pants, like that's horrible. But oftentimes that's real.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly what happens because they're overwork, they're underpaid, they

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<v Speaker 3>have way too many people to one you know, aid

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<v Speaker 3>or nurse or you know, whoever's working, and there's not

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<v Speaker 3>enough time in the day, which it's very stressful.

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<v Speaker 6>And then they don't get good qualified help.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's where they get a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 3>really don't care. If you sit in feces for twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four or forty eight hours, they don't care.

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<v Speaker 4>And they they usually only have two eighth for forty people.

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<v Speaker 4>That is bananas. And you know they're raking in dope

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<v Speaker 4>because they make you forfeit your whole medicare check. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>whether it's like cheap medicare, like you're you're all of it, disability,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever you get is theirs right, and they take the

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<v Speaker 4>whole thing even if like say so and so pays

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<v Speaker 4>eight hundred, this guy has eight thousand, like they're taking

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<v Speaker 4>it all.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 3>With that with the financial stuff, and I'm sure it's

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<v Speaker 3>different in different states, but like coming from Indiana, if

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<v Speaker 3>you owned a house and you went into a nursing home,

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<v Speaker 3>you had to sign your house over. You could no

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<v Speaker 3>longer own your home. That was now the property of

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<v Speaker 3>the nursing home.

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<v Speaker 4>Which just reminds me of the old churches. That's how

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<v Speaker 4>they used to do this. So and we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>get into all this, but it just disgusts me. I

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<v Speaker 4>understand that people are really busy in America, and I

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<v Speaker 4>get it, but I'm sorry, Like in Asian countries, this

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<v Speaker 4>is a travesty. And I think there's something because I

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<v Speaker 4>was raised with a lot of grandparents around me. I

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<v Speaker 4>was raised by my grandma, and she took care of

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<v Speaker 4>her mother, so not that she needed. She didn't want

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<v Speaker 4>to be took care of. She's an old pioneer lady.

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<v Speaker 4>She's like, get the hell away from me, and she

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<v Speaker 4>legitimately could do everything. She was still bathing her ninety

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<v Speaker 4>year old sister at eighty something, you know, So this

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<v Speaker 4>is what we're working with. Yeah, the guys dropped dead early.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know why, but that's what happened. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>these women lived a long time, took care of one another,

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<v Speaker 4>so it didn't happen like that, you know. And my

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<v Speaker 4>grandma just used to bake me, like don't please, don't

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<v Speaker 4>ever put me. And I tell my kids this now.

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<v Speaker 4>But also it's not just about giving grace and love

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<v Speaker 4>and being helpful to that situation. It's also taken something

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<v Speaker 4>out of the home for American children to learn from

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<v Speaker 4>their elders, to respect their elders, to have you know,

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<v Speaker 4>community importance for old people, because not all of them

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<v Speaker 4>are freaking just thrown well, none of them should be

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<v Speaker 4>just thrown to the curb, you know, like some of

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<v Speaker 4>them are more damaged than others. And I understand that,

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<v Speaker 4>Like maybe they can't talk, but you can communicate on

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<v Speaker 4>another level, you can. I don't know, there's a part

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<v Speaker 4>of humanity in me that just says, that's not how

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<v Speaker 4>this is supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what, I think it speaks volumes to

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<v Speaker 3>today's society because we're lazy, we're instant gratification, and we

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to be bothered with something that could be

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<v Speaker 3>and something I mean, look at compare that to like

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<v Speaker 3>the parents that use like an iPad or an iPod

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<v Speaker 3>for a babysitter, right, or phone for a babysitter instead

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<v Speaker 3>of actually interacting with your child, Like nobody wants to

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<v Speaker 3>be bothered.

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<v Speaker 4>And well, then I get you don't want to change

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<v Speaker 4>your parents, Stiper, But here's the problem.

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<v Speaker 6>They changed yours yours, see exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So I just have instilled with my kids from

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<v Speaker 4>a very young age and it actually backfired on my

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<v Speaker 4>second daughter, which is rough because she's so giving that

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<v Speaker 4>she's ended up in some weird situations where she's like,

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<v Speaker 4>I was just trying to help this guy and he's weird.

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<v Speaker 4>He got weird, you know, And why would that happen?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, because they saw their predators. It's not your kid,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, right. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 4>even you know, if you don't want to live with them,

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<v Speaker 4>then build them as she shed in the backyard. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't give a shit, Like you guys have some sort

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<v Speaker 4>of responsibility to these people. And that's just how I feel.

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<v Speaker 4>And I know that's not going to be popular.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and it may not be popular but maybe we

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<v Speaker 3>come from a better generation where uh, that's not something

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<v Speaker 3>that would ever cross our minds to do.

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<v Speaker 6>Because I'm a caregiver. You're a caregiver.

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<v Speaker 3>We're compassionate, caring people outside of what we did for profession,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, And so I can't I can say that

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<v Speaker 3>it wouldn't matter if it was my family, if it

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<v Speaker 3>was my husband's family, it would be the same.

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<v Speaker 6>We would take it on.

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<v Speaker 4>And like with my husband, he's got a really close

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<v Speaker 4>brother to his parents, you know, And I get that,

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<v Speaker 4>but hold on one second.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So you know, it's it's one of those choices

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<v Speaker 3>that people have to make, and they should have kind

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<v Speaker 3>of discussions with their family members about what they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to do when when their family members get older, and

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<v Speaker 3>what the expectations are, what the limitations are are you

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<v Speaker 3>going to take in your family members, you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>if you're if you're the one that's aging like me,

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm seeing your menu level age, now, what you

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<v Speaker 3>would like to see from your family and if they

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<v Speaker 3>will be willing to do so or not do so,

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<v Speaker 3>which is not always you know, things that people don't discuss.

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<v Speaker 3>And then it comes down to it and somebody has

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<v Speaker 3>a stroke or you know, some kind of illness, and

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<v Speaker 3>they wind up having to make that decision at the

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<v Speaker 3>last minute instead of thinking ahead of time like do

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<v Speaker 3>you have room, like where would you set somebody up

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<v Speaker 6>And things of that nature.

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<v Speaker 3>So those are definitely things to go over and to consider,

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<v Speaker 3>and you should be having those discussions before the time

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely. And you know, my grandma was close to me,

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<v Speaker 4>but her mother wasn't overly close to me. Sorry, I

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<v Speaker 4>had a funk my kid right anyway, So I still

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<v Speaker 4>would get off work when she got really sick and

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<v Speaker 4>she ended up, you know, in hospice at home, and

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<v Speaker 4>I would go over there and help, like I help

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<v Speaker 4>with I probably gave her her last I was of medication,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, to pass away. My grandpa too, They all

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<v Speaker 4>died at home because we don't. We don't do that.

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<v Speaker 4>My grandma unfortunately, no, because my cousin had power of attorney,

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<v Speaker 4>so I couldn't. She shouldn't have been in a hospital.

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<v Speaker 4>She had a very specific power of attorney there and

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<v Speaker 4>she didn't want any of that, and they did it,

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<v Speaker 4>they did cardiac measures, and I'm sure she was just livid.

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<v Speaker 4>And I just was like bro like stop, what are you?

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<v Speaker 4>She one of the times she woke up for a

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<v Speaker 6>Ope, a lost her.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be one of those days today, ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 3>where uh play stupid games when stupid prizes. Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it is one of those things. Hair, let me remove

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<v Speaker 3>that one.

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<v Speaker 6>There we go.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like nothing's working, like my grade isn't working? My

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<v Speaker 4>uh son? Is that? The stories like your cards? And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, is it what? Nothing's working?

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<v Speaker 6>Stop it, Jim exactly, Sorry, Jim, Jim, you're started to

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Jim, stop that. We're just talking about old people.

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<v Speaker 6>Back up right anyway. But the yeah at home.

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<v Speaker 3>Are important, like with the you know what your what

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<v Speaker 6>All of those things should be discussions that you have

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<v Speaker 4>know her living will? And she did all the things.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything was outlined exactly what she wanted, all her measures,

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<v Speaker 4>what she did want, what she didn't want, everything, and

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<v Speaker 4>and I love him, he panicked. It wasn't to be.

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<v Speaker 4>well and they will override that. If you have you know,

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<v Speaker 4>that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>And please, it's so funny because him and I have

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<v Speaker 3>if you're going to do a funeral or not funeral,

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<v Speaker 3>and if you did, what kind of music would you

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, see what your songs and you know.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you want? Yeah, because I don't want people

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<v Speaker 4>staring at my dead mug. I'll tell you what right now,

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<v Speaker 4>that's some creepy ass shit. And you people, anybody can

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<v Speaker 4>that's creepy because I've been to a lot of funerals.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't like it. My husband knows, the family prayer people.

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<v Speaker 4>They can look at my stupid face. If you want

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<v Speaker 4>to see it, then shut the damn thing. Shut it.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want a bunch of weird people that didn't

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<v Speaker 4>with my hair bad. No, No, I don't like that

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<v Speaker 4>makeup job. What I look? You know what I hate

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<v Speaker 4>the most, And we'll get on with it. People come

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<v Speaker 4>to every funeral and this is zach. I've had so

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<v Speaker 4>many tragedies in my family. I'm telling you. They all

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<v Speaker 4>come around the casket, they do this, and then they

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<v Speaker 4>go he looks really good, And I'm like no, he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>He looks like shit, like, what are what some people

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<v Speaker 4>do look good? My great grandma looks great. She looked

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<v Speaker 4>like what like I don't know, just she just I

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<v Speaker 4>died really early, and she looked alive, and it was

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<v Speaker 4>almost scared. It was almost frightening, like we we were

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<v Speaker 4>waiting for her to breathe, you know. It was like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>that was also weird. And so with my brother, because

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<v Speaker 4>he was an accidental overdose, they had him for a minute,

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<v Speaker 4>girl like it was like over ten days, okay, because

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<v Speaker 4>the state requires it on anybody under the age of

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<v Speaker 4>forty to make sure blah blah blah. And so by

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<v Speaker 4>the time they got him, I just almost disassociated because

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, like, I'm staring at this thing that

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<v Speaker 4>is supposed to be my brother and it is not

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<v Speaker 4>my brother, Like, in no sense of the word, did

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<v Speaker 4>that look like my brother? And everybody's saying how good

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<v Speaker 4>he looks, And I'm just like traumatized, and I'm thinking, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>he always wore shades always, and I happened to bring

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<v Speaker 4>a hair because I was going to put him on

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<v Speaker 4>him when they should shut the thing because he always

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<v Speaker 4>wore them. And it was then that I saw my

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<v Speaker 4>same like certain things, you know, and that's really traumatic,

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<v Speaker 4>like when you are trying to put two and two

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<v Speaker 4>together and say goodbye when it's not you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>had already said goodbye at the hospital, and so that

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<v Speaker 4>was it was hard. But I'm not saying if you

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<v Speaker 4>guys do it different, that's fine. But like Janet said,

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<v Speaker 4>all this stuff should be an easy outline so you

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<v Speaker 4>can actually have your wishes done because if somebody panics your.

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<v Speaker 3>Scripts, especially like for us, I don't want to put

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<v Speaker 3>that extra stress or burden on my husband or on

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<v Speaker 3>our children. You know what I mean, it's so much,

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<v Speaker 3>it's so hard enough. Exactly what I want. This is

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<v Speaker 3>exactly what I expect, you know. And don't go waste

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<v Speaker 3>your money on a stupid burial plot somewhere, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Check me in the backyard.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, put me out there with the wildlife. That is yes,

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>My one kid, she's so like hippie woo woo. She

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<v Speaker 4>told me that after everybody leaves, I have to get

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<v Speaker 4>her naked. So she I said, I am not going

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<v Speaker 4>to be alive. First of all, I am not dying

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<v Speaker 4>before my children are. I'm not alive if you're gone.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I don't want that. So I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>put that out there right now in the universe. Please God.

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<v Speaker 4>We've been through that a lot and enough. But she said, Mom,

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<v Speaker 4>if by chance, I just don't want to be in

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<v Speaker 4>there all stuffy. I said, what about the funeral man,

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<v Speaker 4>like you want me to shut it? And she's like no.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, well, you can't be naked in there like

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<v Speaker 4>for the people. And she said, just stick me in

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<v Speaker 4>a nightgown then, and I said I can do that.

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<v Speaker 4>And she's just really obsessed with that, like she wants

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<v Speaker 4>to go out how she came in mm hmm. She said,

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<v Speaker 4>I can understand that little much happy kid.

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<v Speaker 6>If you had open cast it with a niggad.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean we'd be like oh and then everybody would go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>wake up. And you know, it's just she's funny that

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<v Speaker 4>way in general. But I was like, that is a

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<v Speaker 4>new one. I haven't heard that before. You know, everyone

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<v Speaker 4>in Utah. I don't know if people know this. Everyone

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<v Speaker 4>well that's been through the temple is buried in their

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<v Speaker 4>temple clothes, and the people that put the clothes on

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<v Speaker 4>are the family members. They have to go dress the

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<v Speaker 4>dead corbs. It's so weird. Welcome to your weird lesson

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<v Speaker 4>of Mormonism for today. And I'm not saying that that's

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<v Speaker 4>bad because I know lots of people dress their loved ones,

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<v Speaker 4>but like it's a ritualistic type sitch, and so yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>they go and dress them in their weird temple clothes

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<v Speaker 4>and all the things, and so they all go always

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<v Speaker 4>the same, oh those two those but their temple actual

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<v Speaker 4>clothes with their Masonic apron and their robe and their

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<v Speaker 4>hat and the veil, and so everybody that dies looks

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<v Speaker 4>the same. It's kind of creepy in a way because

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<v Speaker 4>they're all buried in the same exact thing. And so

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, miss me with that ship, don't you

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<v Speaker 4>put don't let them get me? He do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, maybe that's why uh the uh heaven skate people

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<v Speaker 3>with the Adidas stracksuits and whatever. Maybe that's they were

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<v Speaker 3>following the same kind of thing where we all got

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<v Speaker 3>to be.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very similar. You're not you're barking up the right tree,

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<v Speaker 4>because it's all death cults at the end of the day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>pretty creepy. Creepy. Well, I'll share my screen and shut

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<v Speaker 4>up now. But there's there's your you know things for today.

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<v Speaker 4>Do take care of your plans.

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<v Speaker 3>Straight lessoned for today kids, Yes, yeah, and you need it.

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<v Speaker 3>History of nursing homes right, They were not called nursing

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<v Speaker 3>homes back in the day, and so older people and

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<v Speaker 3>especially people with no means were often forced into places

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<v Speaker 3>that they would call poorhouses or almshouses or any of

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<v Speaker 3>the different things that they were called county county homes, infirmaries,

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<v Speaker 3>things like that.

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<v Speaker 6>And so let me pull that, pull your thing up.

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<v Speaker 3>So who was put in these homes. It wasn't just

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<v Speaker 3>elderly people. So early nursing homes were not just for

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<v Speaker 3>the old age. Elderly people without family were a big

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<v Speaker 3>portion of it because like they outlived their children or

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<v Speaker 3>they never got married, they didn't have children, and they

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<v Speaker 3>they would basically institutionalize them to keep them off the street.

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<v Speaker 3>Widows were another big thing, widows and women, and so

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<v Speaker 3>because of the fact that women rarely owned property, you

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<v Speaker 3>were less than you weren't worthy to be a member

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<v Speaker 3>of society. So if your husband died first, you got

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<v Speaker 3>put in there just because you were widowed. And most

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<v Speaker 3>if he died first, that made you poor, so they

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<v Speaker 3>definitely got sent there. So women were a big portion

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<v Speaker 3>of the of the nursing homes as well anybody that

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<v Speaker 3>was quote feeble minded or cognitively impaired, and so it

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<v Speaker 3>didn't matter if you had Alzheimer's or delirium, if you

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<v Speaker 3>had stroke related decline or any kind of developmental disability,

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<v Speaker 3>you'd be in there too because uh and they would

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<v Speaker 3>be there there senile, insane or an imbecile, So.

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<v Speaker 4>Like that whole colony situation for the epileptics and feeble

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<v Speaker 4>minded didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, isn't that a very nice place? Super duper so

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<v Speaker 3>chronically ill people also were put in there, So if

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<v Speaker 3>you had tuberculosis, if you've ever had a stroke, if

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<v Speaker 3>you had a limb amputated, and if you were blind

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<v Speaker 3>or war veterans or with injuries, they were also committed.

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<v Speaker 6>And so.

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<v Speaker 3>Alcoholics and morally unfit people there would be a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people in the States, Oh shit, you all better

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<v Speaker 3>watch it. So if alcoholism in the eighteen hundreds and

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<v Speaker 3>early nineteen hundreds was treated as moral failure and degeneracy,

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<v Speaker 3>and so these were early mental health terminology, and so

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<v Speaker 3>they would they would put them in there.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought this picture was crazy because he's like, this

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<v Speaker 4>is a cool side by side photo for leg back

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<v Speaker 4>in the day, Like ya, He's got his legs on

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<v Speaker 4>and his legs off, And I kind of think it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's pretty cool that he would even do that, because

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people nowadays might not.

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<v Speaker 3>Right one hundred percent. So kind of like we talked

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<v Speaker 3>about on the previous episode with the Kennedy family, So

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<v Speaker 3>the members that people couldn't handle or didn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>handle because they either they were difficult or they had

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<v Speaker 6>You and I would be in the nursing home Whoopsie, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>if you were pressed or grieving.

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<v Speaker 3>So if your spouse dies in your grieving, they would

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<v Speaker 3>put you in a facility as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Better get over it, Bessie.

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<v Speaker 3>And release from these facilities was very very very rare,

422
00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:42.960
<v Speaker 3>very rare. And so not only were they uber overcrowded

423
00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:47.240
<v Speaker 3>a lot of times, they were not heated. Wouldn't that

424
00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:52.359
<v Speaker 3>be a fabulous place to be? They were really super

425
00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:58.160
<v Speaker 3>dirty and had, like I said, the very mixed population,

426
00:26:58.480 --> 00:27:05.720
<v Speaker 3>so children, elderly, amputeese, heerculosis, so all of these things

427
00:27:05.839 --> 00:27:09.720
<v Speaker 3>put together. And so because of that, disease was rampant

428
00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:13.000
<v Speaker 3>and they had very high death rates in their area.

429
00:27:13.079 --> 00:27:15.519
<v Speaker 4>And they didn't like to beat them apparently because this

430
00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:16.480
<v Speaker 4>poor lady.

431
00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:19.839
<v Speaker 6>What the hell a big time? Yeah.

432
00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:22.519
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if that was purposeful or not, but damn.

433
00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:26.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know, but that's that's a horrible thing.

434
00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:30.039
<v Speaker 3>And that still happens today too. Because this one made

435
00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:32.000
<v Speaker 3>me laugh a little. It's not funny, but.

436
00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:35.640
<v Speaker 6>It looks like me in the morning.

437
00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:39.039
<v Speaker 4>Right, I'm like, this actually seems like an actual real

438
00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:42.519
<v Speaker 4>torture thing. But his face is like, what the hell

439
00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:45.400
<v Speaker 4>is happening here? Because something's going on with his tongue.

440
00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:46.920
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what they're doing.

441
00:27:46.720 --> 00:27:50.559
<v Speaker 3>There, Yeah, I don't know. And what is that around

442
00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:51.000
<v Speaker 3>his neck?

443
00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:55.799
<v Speaker 4>You take a weird I think they like he couldn't

444
00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:58.640
<v Speaker 4>spit and couldn't talk and couldn't do things with his

445
00:27:58.759 --> 00:28:02.720
<v Speaker 4>mouth like I don't even know that's all. Yeah.

446
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:08.279
<v Speaker 3>So that was the basis the premise of the first

447
00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:14.079
<v Speaker 3>nursing homes, and of course along came the Social Security

448
00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:19.440
<v Speaker 3>Act of nineteen thirty five, and it unintentionally fueled the

449
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:23.960
<v Speaker 3>rise of private nursing homes. What could possibly go wrong?

450
00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:29.400
<v Speaker 3>And then you know that stepped up later on when

451
00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:35.039
<v Speaker 3>we came out with Medicare and Medicaid in nineteen sixty five,

452
00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:40.279
<v Speaker 3>and those programs made government the largest payer for long

453
00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:47.680
<v Speaker 3>term care and also the largest collector of finances and

454
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:51.880
<v Speaker 3>properties for long term.

455
00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:54.279
<v Speaker 4>But they don't have money to pay for people anymore

456
00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:56.640
<v Speaker 4>because right now, well.

457
00:28:56.880 --> 00:28:59.079
<v Speaker 3>Because we're giving it all the way to people that

458
00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:03.799
<v Speaker 3>aren't from here. But that's beside the point why digress.

459
00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:10.559
<v Speaker 3>So nineteen seventies and nineteen eighties was spurred like a

460
00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:16.039
<v Speaker 3>bunch of public outcry and demand for regulation because of

461
00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:18.960
<v Speaker 3>the things that were happening in the nursing homes and

462
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:25.960
<v Speaker 3>so not only widespread documented episodes of systemic neglect and

463
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:33.079
<v Speaker 3>abuse and things like that. But it took another eighteen

464
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:38.599
<v Speaker 3>or seventeen years before they passed the Nursing Home Reformact

465
00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:45.799
<v Speaker 3>of nineteen eighty seven to establish minimum standards. And believe me,

466
00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:51.640
<v Speaker 3>minimum standards is literally what they follow to not get

467
00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:57.559
<v Speaker 3>their doors closed and to still get their government funding. Supposedly,

468
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:02.920
<v Speaker 3>patients get a bill of rights to help fight mistreatment.

469
00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:07.480
<v Speaker 3>But if you are alone or if they isolate you

470
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:13.079
<v Speaker 3>from your family like we saw during cold then how

471
00:30:13.119 --> 00:30:16.799
<v Speaker 3>would you fight against your rights being abused.

472
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:21.880
<v Speaker 4>Here's the actual laws being enacted for that. So I

473
00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:25.599
<v Speaker 4>thought that was a cool picture. Is like I said,

474
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:29.519
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, people got smarter, and I think

475
00:30:29.559 --> 00:30:32.319
<v Speaker 4>this is why they're running running out of money, is

476
00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:37.200
<v Speaker 4>because they started making sure they had living wills and

477
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:39.400
<v Speaker 4>that their property wasn't going to be seized and all

478
00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:42.480
<v Speaker 4>this stuff, right, and and that's why I think they're

479
00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:44.000
<v Speaker 4>having the trouble they're having.

480
00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:48.359
<v Speaker 3>Because it was like a giant piggy bank for them,

481
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:52.799
<v Speaker 3>you know. And even though with all of these different

482
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:57.880
<v Speaker 3>acts and stuff and privatization of nursing homes or whatever,

483
00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:03.519
<v Speaker 3>they're literally you got people that retire from Congress or

484
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:08.519
<v Speaker 3>retire from other positions and political life or whatever, and

485
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:13.759
<v Speaker 3>then they start up foundation and they run these So

486
00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:15.400
<v Speaker 3>is it really privatized?

487
00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:20.119
<v Speaker 6>No? No, just going to the Yeah.

488
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:23.079
<v Speaker 3>Were there some private facilities, of course there were, but

489
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:27.960
<v Speaker 3>that didn't mean that you got any better care than

490
00:31:28.039 --> 00:31:30.839
<v Speaker 3>anything that was government sanctioned or privately run.

491
00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:37.160
<v Speaker 4>And these big mansions in Ogden, it was very uh prevalent,

492
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:40.400
<v Speaker 4>and still some of them are still being like refixed

493
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:43.319
<v Speaker 4>to turn the big mansions, like you know you said,

494
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:48.279
<v Speaker 4>into these war at homes or whatever. And I used

495
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:52.319
<v Speaker 4>to run a wedding business and I like rented the

496
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:56.400
<v Speaker 4>deep basement of this creepy mansion. And let me tell

497
00:31:56.440 --> 00:31:59.400
<v Speaker 4>you some of the creepiest stuff ever because there was

498
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:01.960
<v Speaker 4>like a slight down there that I think it might

499
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:05.240
<v Speaker 4>have used to been for mortuary stuff. But it also

500
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:08.920
<v Speaker 4>had all these tiny little rooms like it had been

501
00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:12.400
<v Speaker 4>separated out, and then there were school chairs in there,

502
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:15.559
<v Speaker 4>which was weird because it wasn't a school, and there

503
00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:17.440
<v Speaker 4>was like a kitchen down there. This is like in

504
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:21.519
<v Speaker 4>the deep, deep basement, and it honestly looked like one

505
00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:24.440
<v Speaker 4>day the aliens came and just took I wished i'd

506
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:28.119
<v Speaker 4>tooken pictures, took all the people and just like whoop

507
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:31.440
<v Speaker 4>and took them all and then they were just gone

508
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:34.559
<v Speaker 4>because there was still like weird toothbrush, like there was

509
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:38.480
<v Speaker 4>still stuff in there. It was so bizarre. It's the craziest,

510
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:41.160
<v Speaker 4>but well better better than a nursing home.

511
00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:43.440
<v Speaker 3>I say, well, and like we talked about on a

512
00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:50.359
<v Speaker 3>previous episode, you know, were they experimenting on these people

513
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:55.000
<v Speaker 3>and are there or if they dug up in a

514
00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:58.279
<v Speaker 3>lot of these properties, would they find like mass grapes

515
00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:02.519
<v Speaker 3>where these people just up and disappeared because they don't

516
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:06.359
<v Speaker 3>disappeared from from one means or another right, and then

517
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:07.279
<v Speaker 3>they just like the.

518
00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:10.279
<v Speaker 6>Carried them out back.

519
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:13.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, spooky.

520
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:19.759
<v Speaker 3>So abuse and neglect are definitely systemic problems still to

521
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:23.839
<v Speaker 3>this day. It is still a big, big problem. And

522
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:27.839
<v Speaker 3>so almost a third of nursing homes back in the

523
00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:34.119
<v Speaker 3>day had violations likely to cause harm or serious injury

524
00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:42.039
<v Speaker 3>or death to patients. That's interesting, huh. Probably a lot

525
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:43.119
<v Speaker 3>of that going on too.

526
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:47.359
<v Speaker 4>So some little re enacted silly photos, but they're not

527
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:48.440
<v Speaker 4>going to real ones.

528
00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:53.519
<v Speaker 6>She's like, Marge, sit down, like I'm trying to to

529
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:54.400
<v Speaker 6>let go.

530
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:57.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, let go of me. People used to grab me

531
00:33:57.519 --> 00:33:59.599
<v Speaker 4>all the time when I'd go see that ant help me.

532
00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:06.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, so what the studies that have been done,

533
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:12.239
<v Speaker 3>forty four percent of residents have reported abuse and ninety

534
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:20.440
<v Speaker 3>five percent saw neglect. However, only about ten percent actually

535
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:24.239
<v Speaker 3>takes place in reporting because a lot of these people,

536
00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:31.719
<v Speaker 3>especially if they were mentally incapacitated, had no means to

537
00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:35.639
<v Speaker 3>be able to report anything, and the workers are sure

538
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:38.440
<v Speaker 3>not going to report. And I know everybody has probably

539
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:44.679
<v Speaker 3>seen like videos on TikTok or Facebook or Instagram, which

540
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:46.800
<v Speaker 3>there was a lot of it during the COVID stuff

541
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:50.440
<v Speaker 3>where they were there would be a worker that was

542
00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:53.719
<v Speaker 3>literally assaulting a patient, like beating them in the head

543
00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:57.440
<v Speaker 3>or you know whatever. Yeah, it's still a problem. It

544
00:34:57.519 --> 00:34:58.800
<v Speaker 3>is still a problem.

545
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:03.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, terrifying, Hold me down so I can feel.

546
00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:08.880
<v Speaker 3>Better, right, that's well, sometimes people just need a tight

547
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:09.760
<v Speaker 3>smuggle like.

548
00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:12.760
<v Speaker 4>That, right, Yeah, that's not intimidating.

549
00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:18.360
<v Speaker 3>So not only was their physical abuse, but of course

550
00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:22.440
<v Speaker 3>verbal and emotional abuse. You know, your family doesn't want you,

551
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:27.000
<v Speaker 3>they abandoned you, all the things, even the kind of

552
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:30.320
<v Speaker 3>things that they would do to the children and the orphanages.

553
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:37.400
<v Speaker 3>Definitely neglect. But financial exploitation was a huge thing still

554
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:47.559
<v Speaker 3>is a huge thing. He's taken she's taken all the money,

555
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:48.599
<v Speaker 3>which is.

556
00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:52.599
<v Speaker 4>Not a nurse bro be. The corporate people back there.

557
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:55.800
<v Speaker 3>Pretty much what still happens these days.

558
00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:57.760
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, So.

559
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:03.559
<v Speaker 3>The nineteen thirties to nineteen sixties is kind of when

560
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:08.000
<v Speaker 3>they made that shift away from like government stuff to

561
00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:13.039
<v Speaker 3>the private nursing homes because of the So Security Act.

562
00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:18.519
<v Speaker 3>But states shut down many of the poorhouses and the

563
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:23.400
<v Speaker 3>almshouses and things that existed before the term nursing home,

564
00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:32.199
<v Speaker 3>and they moved people into the private nursing homes without

565
00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:38.760
<v Speaker 3>consent so that they could receive payment. Isn't that nice

566
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:39.840
<v Speaker 3>because you know.

567
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:43.599
<v Speaker 4>Nurse, wouldn't you want to go to bed? Let's get it.

568
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:47.639
<v Speaker 6>Well, although I wrapped me down, strap me down.

569
00:36:48.360 --> 00:36:50.440
<v Speaker 4>I have to say this about the posys and for

570
00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:52.239
<v Speaker 4>people that don't know what that is, it's like a

571
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:55.400
<v Speaker 4>backwards shirt and it ties to the back of the

572
00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:59.480
<v Speaker 4>bed when they were hooked to the alarm, the bed

573
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:03.000
<v Speaker 4>alarm that pulls as soon as they move, and not

574
00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:06.840
<v Speaker 4>strap down, but just to let us know, right, you're

575
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:09.559
<v Speaker 4>going to fall now because people forget and they just

576
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:12.119
<v Speaker 4>want to get up and they break their hips, right right.

577
00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:16.000
<v Speaker 4>So we've gone to this reform to help, and what

578
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:18.880
<v Speaker 4>we've done is we've become retarded now. And so this

579
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:21.159
<v Speaker 4>is what I have to chart. Patient has the right

580
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:26.320
<v Speaker 4>to fall. Are you serious right now? Like we're not

581
00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:28.840
<v Speaker 4>going to do anything for Betty who's super old and

582
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:30.760
<v Speaker 4>frail and doesn't understand.

583
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:37.679
<v Speaker 3>Or like very denial, doesn't have or anything, or they've

584
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:40.000
<v Speaker 3>got her on drugs like ambient.

585
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:42.360
<v Speaker 4>Right, and they always do and it's the horror. Do

586
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:44.000
<v Speaker 4>not give that to old people.

587
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:48.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm telling you, because it makes people jump out

588
00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:50.119
<v Speaker 3>second stories thinking that they can fly.

589
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:57.480
<v Speaker 4>They get cuckoo crazy, I'm telling you right now. And also, uh,

590
00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:00.800
<v Speaker 4>they're am a tripolene. Don't give that to old people tras.

591
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:03.199
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes that's a bad idea. I'm not saying always, but

592
00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:03.800
<v Speaker 4>it can be.

593
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:04.840
<v Speaker 6>Right.

594
00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:11.199
<v Speaker 3>A lot ofs that are give them benadryll that are

595
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:13.480
<v Speaker 3>things that they should not be getting.

596
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:16.440
<v Speaker 6>But that was a major problem and still is.

597
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

598
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:22.639
<v Speaker 3>And they would medicate them as a form of chemical

599
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:29.280
<v Speaker 3>can chemical restraint because they didn't want to be bothered,

600
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:31.440
<v Speaker 3>or they didn't want to have to keep checking on

601
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:32.760
<v Speaker 3>somebody getting up.

602
00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:36.079
<v Speaker 4>Or Bessie checked her pisture light too many times.

603
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:38.320
<v Speaker 6>Knocker at that's exactly right.

604
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:46.960
<v Speaker 3>And so you know, early treatment in these places it

605
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:50.719
<v Speaker 3>was I don't even think you could really use the

606
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:56.400
<v Speaker 3>word treatment, right, it's very that's a very loose, loose

607
00:38:56.480 --> 00:39:01.400
<v Speaker 3>interpretation of treatment. And so not only did they have

608
00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:05.679
<v Speaker 3>the physical restraints that ties the belts, all of that stuff,

609
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:09.480
<v Speaker 3>but they also put them unlocked wards. Lots of times

610
00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:17.079
<v Speaker 3>havely sedated him or insulin shock therapy was used on people,

611
00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:27.920
<v Speaker 3>especially in psychiatric instances or whatever. But remember on a

612
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:33.360
<v Speaker 3>previous show where we said you could be deemed a

613
00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:38.400
<v Speaker 3>psychiatric patient if you were a female, you were menstrating,

614
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:46.239
<v Speaker 3>your going on your what do you call it menopause,

615
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:52.639
<v Speaker 3>if you're infertiles, or who don't believe your husband, if

616
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:56.039
<v Speaker 3>you speak up against your husband, if you're not submissive,

617
00:39:56.679 --> 00:40:01.679
<v Speaker 3>all of these things were considered be a mental health problem.

618
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:03.760
<v Speaker 6>And so how.

619
00:40:03.559 --> 00:40:09.320
<v Speaker 3>Many people were they using insulin shock therapy on this

620
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:13.159
<v Speaker 3>should have never been getting shock therapy in the first place.

621
00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:16.280
<v Speaker 4>This is part of their insulin shock therapy when they're

622
00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:16.920
<v Speaker 4>waking them up.

623
00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:21.880
<v Speaker 3>And so not only are we doing insulin shock therapy,

624
00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:28.800
<v Speaker 3>but we're also experimenting with electroconvulsive therapy. So we're shocking

625
00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:33.519
<v Speaker 3>the shit out of people because we're thinking that that's

626
00:40:33.559 --> 00:40:37.440
<v Speaker 3>going to make them normal. So if I'm just there

627
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:43.559
<v Speaker 3>because I'm on my period, right and you're electrically shocking me.

628
00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:48.559
<v Speaker 3>What does repeated shocking do to your body? And how

629
00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:52.480
<v Speaker 3>does that destroy your body? So are they helping people?

630
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:55.119
<v Speaker 3>Are they making them worse? And they didn't have to

631
00:40:55.440 --> 00:41:00.800
<v Speaker 3>consent to do any of this, just like the the

632
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:05.199
<v Speaker 3>cold bathtub water for days and you know all of

633
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:08.280
<v Speaker 3>the other things. Same kind of stuff was happening in

634
00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:10.400
<v Speaker 3>the nursing home facilities as well.

635
00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:13.440
<v Speaker 4>I want to know what spider monkey can crawl up

636
00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:15.199
<v Speaker 4>to that padded ceiling.

637
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:20.719
<v Speaker 3>Well, you never know, and maybe they have really long

638
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:23.559
<v Speaker 3>your nails or toenails and they can climb like a cat.

639
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:31.480
<v Speaker 3>And Jane's up on the ceiling again, mewing at the

640
00:41:31.480 --> 00:41:32.280
<v Speaker 3>other residents.

641
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:35.440
<v Speaker 4>I would be impressed. I would be like, you go, James,

642
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:38.239
<v Speaker 4>don't fall though, I don't want to do that paperwork. No.

643
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:44.079
<v Speaker 3>And so along with the electro sheriff shock therapy and

644
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:49.960
<v Speaker 3>the insulin therapy, they would also do forced feedings, require

645
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:53.400
<v Speaker 3>them to be put in isolation rooms, or they would

646
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:57.960
<v Speaker 3>starve them because you know what could go wrong when

647
00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:00.880
<v Speaker 3>you don't have food or water and take your body

648
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:03.400
<v Speaker 3>starts to shut down and you get psychotic.

649
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:09.000
<v Speaker 6>So not all all the facilities did this, but.

650
00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:17.280
<v Speaker 3>Elderly institutions definitely overlapped with psychiatric places, and so they

651
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:20.280
<v Speaker 3>would definitely be part of this.

652
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:24.639
<v Speaker 4>Can you imagine just being old and your legs don't

653
00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:31.119
<v Speaker 4>work and your roommate's Google crazy, Jim, You're like, he's

654
00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:34.960
<v Speaker 4>thirty and he can bench press me. Right? Can I

655
00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:36.199
<v Speaker 4>have a new roommate please?

656
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:40.360
<v Speaker 3>Like, I wonder if you're allowed to put in a

657
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:43.199
<v Speaker 3>request to move or if they would be like, you

658
00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:46.280
<v Speaker 3>know what, Heidi, you're asking too many questions. I'm going

659
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:51.760
<v Speaker 3>to put you in isolation in the padded room, the

660
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:52.719
<v Speaker 3>padded cat room.

661
00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:55.199
<v Speaker 4>I'll take it.

662
00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:01.039
<v Speaker 3>They just need some scratching posts in there and some toys.

663
00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:09.119
<v Speaker 3>So these facilities and why it was such a problem,

664
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:15.280
<v Speaker 3>It was a means of social control, removing the unwanted

665
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:21.639
<v Speaker 3>or the quote unquote dependent people out of public view

666
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:24.679
<v Speaker 3>because God forbid, we don't want to have to see

667
00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:30.599
<v Speaker 3>that kind of thing, and taking over or managing basically

668
00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:38.320
<v Speaker 3>the people who were economically or socially inconvenient. And so

669
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:48.639
<v Speaker 3>they were diagnosed, which these are lovely terms, non productive, burdensome,

670
00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:54.599
<v Speaker 3>and financial liabilities. So if you put that in the

671
00:43:54.599 --> 00:44:00.599
<v Speaker 3>context of today and today's thinking, we don't have a

672
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:06.280
<v Speaker 3>need for nursing homes for much longer, in my personal opinion,

673
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:12.880
<v Speaker 3>because we're swiftly moving off of a cliff like Canada

674
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:15.239
<v Speaker 3>where we're going to have the maid services, and so

675
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:22.039
<v Speaker 3>they're going to have you know, mandatory euthanasia for.

676
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:25.199
<v Speaker 4>Ready to go home today, Jim right.

677
00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:30.000
<v Speaker 3>And by by going home, I mean going going home

678
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:37.239
<v Speaker 3>to your maker, Jim going. And so I can I

679
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:41.480
<v Speaker 3>can imagine that that is coming, because you know they're

680
00:44:41.559 --> 00:44:45.320
<v Speaker 3>they're pushing that, and a lot of states are like pushing,

681
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:49.079
<v Speaker 3>like California is pushing for that same kind of thing

682
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:52.519
<v Speaker 3>where oh, you're depressed, Well, we'll just scale you off.

683
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:54.840
<v Speaker 4>I can fix it. I can fix that for you.

684
00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:58.079
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, one hundred and so.

685
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:03.199
<v Speaker 3>Every body saw the stories or whatnot during COVID where

686
00:45:03.639 --> 00:45:07.639
<v Speaker 3>especially when the made thing first, like got a lot

687
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:13.840
<v Speaker 3>of national attention where you had to have a leg

688
00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:21.440
<v Speaker 3>amputated or something. Instead of them making you a prosthetic limb,

689
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:24.199
<v Speaker 3>which would cost a lot of money for the fitting

690
00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:30.079
<v Speaker 3>and the maked and you know, lifelong checkups and refittings

691
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:33.519
<v Speaker 3>and all of that kind of stuff, they want to

692
00:45:33.559 --> 00:45:38.039
<v Speaker 3>euthanize you even though you still have another leg. You

693
00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:41.119
<v Speaker 3>could still function perfectly fine, you.

694
00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:43.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah you can.

695
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:49.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I can definitely see that these will probably

696
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:57.639
<v Speaker 3>go away. So before nursing homes were quote unquote medical facilities,

697
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:03.519
<v Speaker 3>they were literally just holding pins for the unwanted, the

698
00:46:03.599 --> 00:46:08.000
<v Speaker 3>dregs of society, the less than the deplorables.

699
00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:13.440
<v Speaker 4>In other words, they were poor, right, Yeah, that's what

700
00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:15.559
<v Speaker 4>it was. Because if you're a rich widow, you ain't

701
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:15.960
<v Speaker 4>doing this.

702
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:18.199
<v Speaker 6>Shit, right, no, one hundred percent.

703
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:24.719
<v Speaker 3>And so some high profile cases that have come about

704
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:31.800
<v Speaker 3>in recent decades with nursing home staff. One of them

705
00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:35.800
<v Speaker 3>this was actually there was a Netflix documentary about this

706
00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:40.880
<v Speaker 3>particular person. His name was Charles Cullen, and he had

707
00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:48.119
<v Speaker 3>managed to administering lethal doses of medications to nearly forty patients,

708
00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:55.880
<v Speaker 3>most of them elderly, across hospitals and different care facilities.

709
00:46:57.079 --> 00:47:03.960
<v Speaker 3>And so this particular guy, even though he confessed to forty,

710
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:08.800
<v Speaker 3>the investigators on the case thought it was anywhere actually

711
00:47:08.840 --> 00:47:13.239
<v Speaker 3>from forty to four hundred different people that he had

712
00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:21.519
<v Speaker 3>killed in these different facilities. So he worked one, two, three, four, five, six,

713
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:28.800
<v Speaker 3>seven different facilities in Pennsylvania, New York, or New Jersey.

714
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:34.559
<v Speaker 3>And so he would stay there and then when things

715
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:38.039
<v Speaker 3>would get sus and he felt like somebody was on

716
00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:40.920
<v Speaker 3>to him, he would move on to another facility, which

717
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:41.800
<v Speaker 3>is what they do.

718
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.519
<v Speaker 4>He must be a dick because he has a spit

719
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:49.039
<v Speaker 4>mask on. So I'm just saying he must be a

720
00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:51.119
<v Speaker 4>real asshole because they don't do that for nothing.

721
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:52.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, one hundred percent.

722
00:47:53.880 --> 00:47:57.119
<v Speaker 3>And so because he moved from job to job to

723
00:47:57.239 --> 00:48:02.480
<v Speaker 3>job all the time, a lot of facilities though when

724
00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:07.000
<v Speaker 3>they were they would suspect him of doing things and

725
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:11.599
<v Speaker 3>they would confront him. They would allow him to quietly

726
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:16.360
<v Speaker 3>resign instead of report him to the board or report

727
00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:21.239
<v Speaker 3>him to this state because they didn't want lawsuits or

728
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:26.159
<v Speaker 3>bad publicity at their facilities. So that happened at multiple

729
00:48:26.239 --> 00:48:31.039
<v Speaker 3>facilities where they would catch one of it and then

730
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:35.000
<v Speaker 3>they would administration would brush it under the rug because

731
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:38.039
<v Speaker 3>they didn't want to be on the news.

732
00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:39.199
<v Speaker 6>Again.

733
00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:42.199
<v Speaker 4>And he was killing people that not that this makes it.

734
00:48:42.519 --> 00:48:45.599
<v Speaker 4>I mean, he's still killing people, but he was killing

735
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:50.760
<v Speaker 4>people that were functional. And you know, if he was

736
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:54.920
<v Speaker 4>doing me a favor, Like I'm not trying to be horrible,

737
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:57.679
<v Speaker 4>but like if I am suffering in every sense of

738
00:48:57.719 --> 00:49:02.960
<v Speaker 4>the matter, and he's doing a compassionate thing, that would

739
00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:05.079
<v Speaker 4>be different. It's not what he was doing.

740
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:06.880
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, No, he was.

741
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:11.760
<v Speaker 3>He would inject people with lethal doses of either insulin

742
00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:16.280
<v Speaker 3>or did joxon and so they would have cardiac issues

743
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:20.199
<v Speaker 3>because hello, you don't need jo joxin strongly suggests you

744
00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:25.440
<v Speaker 3>don't take it, and so it said he would target

745
00:49:26.360 --> 00:49:30.559
<v Speaker 3>vulnerable patients and so a lot of times elderly people

746
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:33.880
<v Speaker 3>because he did not like elderly people whatsoever.

747
00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:37.719
<v Speaker 4>You have issues or I don't know which.

748
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:42.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, or people that were critically ill. But he did

749
00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:47.280
<v Speaker 3>also get people that were fine, you know what I mean.

750
00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:53.400
<v Speaker 3>And so he would also alter the medication records and

751
00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:56.760
<v Speaker 3>try to be all sneaky that way, which, hello, I'm

752
00:49:56.760 --> 00:50:01.519
<v Speaker 3>glad we have pixis machines and things like that to

753
00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:04.760
<v Speaker 3>you know that where they can keep a close eye

754
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:08.400
<v Speaker 3>on dispensary stuff, which back in the day was was

755
00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:09.400
<v Speaker 3>not so much a thing.

756
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:13.599
<v Speaker 4>And double checking insolence I think came from this whole thing.

757
00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:14.880
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, one hundred percent.

758
00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:19.000
<v Speaker 3>And so he would always take the night shift because

759
00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:22.360
<v Speaker 3>obviously it's a lot quieter and a lot easier to

760
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:25.760
<v Speaker 3>commit murder at night than it is during the day

761
00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:27.000
<v Speaker 3>because it's.

762
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:28.719
<v Speaker 6>Just going to run into family.

763
00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:32.599
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they just went to bed, you know, I don't know.

764
00:50:33.559 --> 00:50:38.119
<v Speaker 3>So he finally got caught because he was at a

765
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:42.559
<v Speaker 3>place called Somerset Medical Center, and the pharmacist were the

766
00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:48.199
<v Speaker 3>ones that actually noticed unusual medication withdrawals. And a co

767
00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:54.199
<v Speaker 3>worker and this coworker, her name was Amy Lafran and

768
00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:57.840
<v Speaker 3>her and him were actually best friends. They piled around,

769
00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:00.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, her kid was around.

770
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:01.360
<v Speaker 6>Him all the time.

771
00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:06.400
<v Speaker 3>They you know, hung out and stuff frequently. But she

772
00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:11.199
<v Speaker 3>actually is the one that also turned on him and

773
00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:12.920
<v Speaker 3>reported him to the police.

774
00:51:13.719 --> 00:51:15.280
<v Speaker 4>I would to quit it.

775
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:20.320
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, So that was a thing, and so.

776
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:27.159
<v Speaker 3>Lots of places, not just the United States, but investigations

777
00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:32.360
<v Speaker 3>in Ireland revealed that residents were left in soiled clothes,

778
00:51:33.239 --> 00:51:37.760
<v Speaker 3>crying for help and properly handled so state reviews happened.

779
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:40.639
<v Speaker 6>This is a common thing.

780
00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:45.760
<v Speaker 3>Heidie's got a picture on the screen with like overcrowded

781
00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:50.039
<v Speaker 3>hallways where they just wheeled them out into the hallway

782
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:54.840
<v Speaker 3>and leave them there. And that literally every facility that

783
00:51:54.960 --> 00:51:59.000
<v Speaker 3>I ever worked at all the home wise, was exactly

784
00:51:59.119 --> 00:51:59.480
<v Speaker 3>like that.

785
00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:03.719
<v Speaker 4>Yep. They go to eat, they lay them down, they

786
00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:05.360
<v Speaker 4>get them up, they go in.

787
00:52:05.320 --> 00:52:06.719
<v Speaker 6>The hall yep.

788
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:12.880
<v Speaker 3>One and sometimes without food or water all day long

789
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:17.960
<v Speaker 3>because those same aids, the two waids for forty patients

790
00:52:18.079 --> 00:52:21.559
<v Speaker 3>or more. A lot of patients had to be fed

791
00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:24.559
<v Speaker 3>in the dining room because they had you know, pury

792
00:52:24.679 --> 00:52:29.960
<v Speaker 3>diets or whatever. And so if you have to feed somebody,

793
00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:33.400
<v Speaker 3>then you're not taking care of these other people because

794
00:52:33.400 --> 00:52:37.159
<v Speaker 3>you can't feed those people fast because of the choking hazard.

795
00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:41.920
<v Speaker 4>And you can't feed four people. Yeah, it's ridiculous, Like, okay,

796
00:52:41.960 --> 00:52:46.519
<v Speaker 4>we'll say a third have to be you. It's so hard.

797
00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:50.079
<v Speaker 4>I feel so bad for the right because they really try.

798
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:52.199
<v Speaker 4>And then people come in and they're like, you're a dick.

799
00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:54.599
<v Speaker 4>You didn't take care of my grandma. I'm like, you

800
00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:58.000
<v Speaker 4>you left your grandma and she's doing the best she can.

801
00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:03.199
<v Speaker 4>Because the corporate ran facility, it ain't and they don't.

802
00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:07.440
<v Speaker 3>They don't care about hiring more staff.

803
00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:10.039
<v Speaker 6>They don't.

804
00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:13.440
<v Speaker 3>That's not a concern of theirs because they're concerned as

805
00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:18.920
<v Speaker 3>bottom dollars profit and if they're already quote unquote losing

806
00:53:19.119 --> 00:53:24.039
<v Speaker 3>money right and barely breaking even, they're not going to

807
00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:27.840
<v Speaker 3>hire more nurses or more aids at all. You're just

808
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:29.559
<v Speaker 3>going to have to deal with it.

809
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:34.079
<v Speaker 4>You mean, Jerry didn't get as triple quadruple bonus this month.

810
00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:39.039
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, which is exactly what happens, and that happens

811
00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:42.039
<v Speaker 3>in the hospital systems and all of that kind of

812
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:44.920
<v Speaker 3>stuff too. If you're a peon, you don't get anything,

813
00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:47.440
<v Speaker 3>and you probably will never get a pay raise and

814
00:53:47.480 --> 00:53:51.000
<v Speaker 3>you'll never get coworkers to help you. But they'll still

815
00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:55.000
<v Speaker 3>get their big money for being CEOs and CFOs.

816
00:53:55.760 --> 00:53:58.599
<v Speaker 4>They walk around in suits, they don't do shit. This

817
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:01.199
<v Speaker 4>is why I worked the nurse The nurses night shift,

818
00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:02.920
<v Speaker 4>like where I work now is not like this, but

819
00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:06.079
<v Speaker 4>always because I couldn't stand it. You'd see them just

820
00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:10.880
<v Speaker 4>parading around and they're you know, really expensive outfits, like

821
00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:11.719
<v Speaker 4>do some work.

822
00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:17.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was a hands on person even though I

823
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:20.840
<v Speaker 3>was a nursing supervisor. I was very hands on. I

824
00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:22.960
<v Speaker 3>did patient care, I did like.

825
00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:23.920
<v Speaker 6>All the things.

826
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:27.199
<v Speaker 3>I never sat in an office because I couldn't stand it.

827
00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:28.159
<v Speaker 3>It made me crazy.

828
00:54:28.679 --> 00:54:32.079
<v Speaker 4>Yes, it's wild, like I get that they have some

829
00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:34.519
<v Speaker 4>things they have to do, but like you can help.

830
00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:39.159
<v Speaker 3>You know, are they really that busy though, I mean,

831
00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:40.960
<v Speaker 3>in all actuality, probably not.

832
00:54:41.960 --> 00:54:43.199
<v Speaker 6>So.

833
00:54:42.440 --> 00:54:46.760
<v Speaker 4>This one was a picture from the Bulgaria thing. You mess.

834
00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:52.119
<v Speaker 3>I was just gonna say that in Bulgaria, caregivers were

835
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:57.880
<v Speaker 3>actually charged because they tied up, beat and drugged residents,

836
00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:04.320
<v Speaker 3>leaving them an inhumane condition, and the facilities were illegal.

837
00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:08.800
<v Speaker 4>So sa mirror on the wall of blood that they left,

838
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:11.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah that I'm pretty sure that's old blood.

839
00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:13.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's a no.

840
00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:21.760
<v Speaker 3>In the United States, we had taxpayer uh fraud issues,

841
00:55:21.800 --> 00:55:29.039
<v Speaker 3>So investigations found that nursing homes were diverting millions in

842
00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:37.760
<v Speaker 3>taxpayer funds. Hello again, while residents were suffering with de hydration, malnutrition,

843
00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:39.119
<v Speaker 3>or severe neglect.

844
00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:39.599
<v Speaker 6>And so.

845
00:55:41.039 --> 00:55:44.039
<v Speaker 3>What were these facilities doing with the money? They sure

846
00:55:44.199 --> 00:55:46.719
<v Speaker 3>shirt weren't taking care of the patients.

847
00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:51.440
<v Speaker 4>They weren't buying better food. I know that because the

848
00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:55.079
<v Speaker 4>food is a situation. I know. Look, I know they

849
00:55:55.079 --> 00:55:59.039
<v Speaker 4>can't have salt and whatever the shit. But look, first

850
00:55:59.079 --> 00:56:01.239
<v Speaker 4>of all, if I am that old and you put

851
00:56:01.239 --> 00:56:03.679
<v Speaker 4>me on a low salt that you mother.

852
00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:07.639
<v Speaker 6>You better, you better give me my salt.

853
00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:12.480
<v Speaker 4>And if I need a puaid diet, let me choke,

854
00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:13.920
<v Speaker 4>leave me alone.

855
00:56:14.280 --> 00:56:14.440
<v Speaker 3>Right.

856
00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:19.679
<v Speaker 6>That stuff is really disgusting, by the way.

857
00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:21.599
<v Speaker 4>So sad, I had a picture of it, and I

858
00:56:21.639 --> 00:56:24.360
<v Speaker 4>can't find it. Of all the things that that I've

859
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:27.440
<v Speaker 4>got on here, that food picture isn't here.

860
00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:29.800
<v Speaker 6>It's really gross.

861
00:56:29.960 --> 00:56:35.039
<v Speaker 3>And and that stuff it tastes like chalk. And so

862
00:56:35.559 --> 00:56:39.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, if they're feeding you chicken noodle or soup

863
00:56:39.280 --> 00:56:41.559
<v Speaker 3>or something, you put it in a blender and you

864
00:56:41.599 --> 00:56:45.679
<v Speaker 3>put it with this chalky and you blend it up

865
00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:48.760
<v Speaker 3>and give it to them and that is yummy.

866
00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:50.519
<v Speaker 4>There's their meat.

867
00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:54.159
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and the side of Brussels sprouts.

868
00:56:54.239 --> 00:56:57.119
<v Speaker 3>That just makes me. I'd rather eat the paste than

869
00:56:57.159 --> 00:56:58.480
<v Speaker 3>eat the breustles.

870
00:56:58.760 --> 00:57:02.920
<v Speaker 4>I don't want none of the let me choke. Listen,

871
00:57:03.599 --> 00:57:07.079
<v Speaker 4>it's better to go out on chocolate than this.

872
00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:12.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, one hundred percent. I would much rather choke on chocolate. Besides,

873
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:18.480
<v Speaker 3>you know gross. Yeah. So, not only did these problems

874
00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:24.280
<v Speaker 3>happen because of staffing shortages, but they're also very poorly

875
00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:27.920
<v Speaker 3>trained because they need help so badly. If they do

876
00:57:28.039 --> 00:57:30.920
<v Speaker 3>get a new staff, they don't have time to train them.

877
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:35.519
<v Speaker 3>They don't have time to let somebody shadow them or whatever.

878
00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:38.440
<v Speaker 6>They don't have proper care. They don't know how to use.

879
00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:44.159
<v Speaker 3>The hoist or the lifts or the shower chairs, transfer chairs,

880
00:57:44.360 --> 00:57:47.119
<v Speaker 3>any of that stuff like, they don't know how to

881
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:50.599
<v Speaker 3>do that because nobody has time to show them and

882
00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:55.719
<v Speaker 3>oversight wise, who is literally going to report you like

883
00:57:55.960 --> 00:57:58.119
<v Speaker 3>at all, and who's looking into anything?

884
00:57:58.719 --> 00:58:02.000
<v Speaker 6>Who is who is going.

885
00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:05.159
<v Speaker 3>To sound the alarm to the government that the facility

886
00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:06.599
<v Speaker 3>is not being run properly.

887
00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:11.679
<v Speaker 6>Certainly not the facility. Just seeing.

888
00:58:12.960 --> 00:58:17.880
<v Speaker 3>So isolation of residents, especially from family members. If they

889
00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:22.440
<v Speaker 3>can cut you off from their family members, then you

890
00:58:23.239 --> 00:58:27.960
<v Speaker 3>definitely have a leg up there because then they cannot

891
00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:31.880
<v Speaker 3>come after you for anything if they cut you off

892
00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:34.440
<v Speaker 3>from your family, which, like I said, we saw a

893
00:58:34.480 --> 00:58:38.079
<v Speaker 3>lot of that during COVID, where you can't visit family members,

894
00:58:38.119 --> 00:58:40.599
<v Speaker 3>you can't see them if they're in a nursing home

895
00:58:41.199 --> 00:58:45.679
<v Speaker 3>or a facility of any kind, because you know you

896
00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:49.320
<v Speaker 3>might have you might have more cooties than what the

897
00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:50.320
<v Speaker 3>nursing home has.

898
00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:54.000
<v Speaker 4>I had a picture. The other picture I can't find

899
00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:56.679
<v Speaker 4>and maybe it's here and I'm missing it, but is

900
00:58:56.760 --> 00:58:59.639
<v Speaker 4>one of people visiting their families in twenty twenty through

901
00:58:59.639 --> 00:59:02.000
<v Speaker 4>the window. And that just made me sick.

902
00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:06.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, one hundred percent, And that should never ever happen

903
00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:10.639
<v Speaker 3>because that should be part of your care plan in

904
00:59:10.719 --> 00:59:12.719
<v Speaker 3>any facility for any reason.

905
00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:16.199
<v Speaker 4>Is there were so many people that were willing to

906
00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:19.480
<v Speaker 4>sign Oh here it is JK. There were so many

907
00:59:19.519 --> 00:59:22.400
<v Speaker 4>people that were willing to sign that if I die,

908
00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:23.760
<v Speaker 4>I die, you know.

909
00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:28.119
<v Speaker 6>And so do you want to share your thing again?

910
00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:29.559
<v Speaker 4>Oh? Is it not?

911
00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:33.079
<v Speaker 6>Nope? You again?

912
00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:38.679
<v Speaker 3>What's the matter, Jim? You don't like us talking about this?

913
00:59:39.079 --> 00:59:42.199
<v Speaker 3>Oh boy, your face is frozen again.

914
00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:46.159
<v Speaker 6>Believe it or not.

915
00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:53.039
<v Speaker 3>We eventually will get through this episode, even though Heidi

916
00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:56.480
<v Speaker 3>Kip's getting booted or removed from the stream.

917
00:59:56.679 --> 01:00:04.360
<v Speaker 6>There you are, Oh now he is gone again. This

918
01:00:04.480 --> 01:00:05.440
<v Speaker 6>is craziness.

919
01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:13.679
<v Speaker 3>Oh boy, Oh Jim, Jim, We're gonna put you in

920
01:00:13.760 --> 01:00:16.400
<v Speaker 3>a nursing home and use restraints.

921
01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:19.360
<v Speaker 4>Jim. So there's that. But I have to say that

922
01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:21.960
<v Speaker 4>because somebody will say she's threaten to kill him, right,

923
01:00:23.039 --> 01:00:24.599
<v Speaker 4>knock it off? You know who you are?

924
01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:33.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thanks definitely, because we needed that extra help.

925
01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:36.039
<v Speaker 4>Because this is just the medical system and why are

926
01:00:36.039 --> 01:00:38.400
<v Speaker 4>you so afraid? Right?

927
01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:44.679
<v Speaker 3>And they don't censor nonsense, and so obviously we're over

928
01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:47.800
<v Speaker 3>the target on all of our research for this show,

929
01:00:48.079 --> 01:00:50.280
<v Speaker 3>or they wouldn't be having a problem with us.

930
01:00:50.559 --> 01:00:55.239
<v Speaker 4>So my last episode I dropped this morning. I'm dare

931
01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:59.239
<v Speaker 4>saying that's why that's being naughty, because they tried to

932
01:00:59.320 --> 01:01:03.400
<v Speaker 4>kill that epidisode so hard. That we did multiple links well,

933
01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:06.559
<v Speaker 4>other like zoom to this one to that one other

934
01:01:06.599 --> 01:01:09.039
<v Speaker 4>one's stream yard. It didn't matter. They wouldn't let me

935
01:01:09.079 --> 01:01:11.239
<v Speaker 4>record that episode.

936
01:01:11.639 --> 01:01:15.159
<v Speaker 6>Well, so you must be on their list today.

937
01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:17.280
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I'm definitely not every day.

938
01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:21.800
<v Speaker 3>What's new? What's new, Jim?

939
01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:25.519
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you guys are idiots. There's nothing better to do

940
01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:28.360
<v Speaker 4>than spy on me. And I'm super boring. Didn't get

941
01:01:28.360 --> 01:01:31.360
<v Speaker 4>through the dishes in a minute after we're doing Why

942
01:01:31.679 --> 01:01:32.239
<v Speaker 4>you got.

943
01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:34.440
<v Speaker 6>To watch that? Sometimes you can be doing dishes in

944
01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:35.719
<v Speaker 6>an appropriate manner.

945
01:01:36.199 --> 01:01:40.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, regular mom, mom staff laundry. Okay.

946
01:01:41.440 --> 01:01:45.719
<v Speaker 3>So not only did they do the Nursing Home Report

947
01:01:46.039 --> 01:01:51.480
<v Speaker 3>Act in nineteen eighty seven, just providing basic standards that

948
01:01:51.519 --> 01:01:55.239
<v Speaker 3>they're supposed to abide by, but they also passed in

949
01:01:55.440 --> 01:02:02.599
<v Speaker 3>twenty ten the Elder Justice Act that choirs reporting of abuse,

950
01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:08.280
<v Speaker 3>background checks and safeguards aimed at preventing neglect.

951
01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:15.039
<v Speaker 6>Ever, I'm just gonna say it's something. Background checks cost.

952
01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:21.039
<v Speaker 3>And if you think that every facility does background checks

953
01:02:21.079 --> 01:02:26.400
<v Speaker 3>on their employees, you are sadly mistaken, because.

954
01:02:26.559 --> 01:02:32.920
<v Speaker 4>In utahotic about they upload our fingerprints.

955
01:02:33.159 --> 01:02:37.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a lot of states now, nurses, definitely you

956
01:02:37.559 --> 01:02:39.960
<v Speaker 3>have to do a background check, and it's like an

957
01:02:40.079 --> 01:02:44.920
<v Speaker 3>FBI background check that they do on you. But as

958
01:02:44.920 --> 01:02:48.440
<v Speaker 3>far as nursing homes and a lot of states, they

959
01:02:48.440 --> 01:02:56.480
<v Speaker 3>don't abide by this because there have been uh cases

960
01:02:56.519 --> 01:03:02.000
<v Speaker 3>of violent abusers. Oh wow, uh, especially like I said earlier,

961
01:03:02.119 --> 01:03:05.800
<v Speaker 3>the videos on TikTok and stuff that we saw especially

962
01:03:05.880 --> 01:03:10.400
<v Speaker 3>during COVID, where people were getting beaten to death basically

963
01:03:10.480 --> 01:03:15.880
<v Speaker 3>by workers and nursing homes and they had criminal records.

964
01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:20.719
<v Speaker 4>I want to tell people a story too. After you're

965
01:03:20.719 --> 01:03:24.400
<v Speaker 4>done with this. Oh, go ahead, So I want to

966
01:03:24.440 --> 01:03:27.360
<v Speaker 4>tell you, guys, the worst thing I ever heard and

967
01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:30.679
<v Speaker 4>I didn't see it. I just heard about it, and

968
01:03:30.719 --> 01:03:34.199
<v Speaker 4>it was It's something to think about when you're making

969
01:03:34.199 --> 01:03:37.280
<v Speaker 4>these types of decisions, Okay, when you're making the decision

970
01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:39.960
<v Speaker 4>where your loved one is going to be right and

971
01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:43.840
<v Speaker 4>if they're not of sound mind, especially okay, because they

972
01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:46.719
<v Speaker 4>can't tell you, Oh that night, nurse, you know she's

973
01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:50.719
<v Speaker 4>hit right, aunt? Whatever? Yeah, a stroke patient, same thing.

974
01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:55.079
<v Speaker 4>So multiple patients in this one nursing home that I

975
01:03:55.079 --> 01:03:59.559
<v Speaker 4>worked at, like twenty ten. Maybe they went to go

976
01:03:59.599 --> 01:04:03.280
<v Speaker 4>for this operation and I said, oh, is she prolapsing

977
01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:07.119
<v Speaker 4>her bladder? Or what's going on? And the girl, the

978
01:04:07.960 --> 01:04:12.719
<v Speaker 4>daughter of the woman, said no, I'm having her devaulted.

979
01:04:13.199 --> 01:04:18.360
<v Speaker 4>And I didn't know what that meant, okay, And I said,

980
01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:21.519
<v Speaker 4>what do you mean? And I was a younger nurse,

981
01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:23.719
<v Speaker 4>like I'd only been nurse maybe like ten years then,

982
01:04:24.119 --> 01:04:27.239
<v Speaker 4>and I said what does that mean? And she said, oh,

983
01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:32.440
<v Speaker 4>we're removing everything of her insights and sewing her vagina shut.

984
01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:37.360
<v Speaker 4>And I said, what that's a thing, Like why you know,

985
01:04:37.440 --> 01:04:41.559
<v Speaker 4>because I couldn't. I'm like naive apparently, uh. And she said,

986
01:04:41.679 --> 01:04:48.400
<v Speaker 4>because then she can't be raped. So there's that and

987
01:04:48.519 --> 01:04:49.519
<v Speaker 4>probably kicked out again.

988
01:04:52.119 --> 01:04:59.159
<v Speaker 3>That is terrifying. But I also thought, uh, some patience

989
01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:05.239
<v Speaker 3>and older care facilities are a little promiscuous. And I

990
01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:11.639
<v Speaker 3>have had a lot of patients and facilities like that

991
01:05:11.639 --> 01:05:16.440
<v Speaker 3>that have had like syphilists, uh and and stuff like

992
01:05:16.480 --> 01:05:19.199
<v Speaker 3>that that you know, because they used to work in

993
01:05:19.239 --> 01:05:23.719
<v Speaker 3>the red light district in our city and so, uh,

994
01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:26.719
<v Speaker 3>they were old timey hookers and they were.

995
01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:30.599
<v Speaker 4>Older you know. You know what. That makes me laugh

996
01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:33.320
<v Speaker 4>because my son works as a CNA now and he said,

997
01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:35.599
<v Speaker 4>there's no boys there, mom, And these women, these old

998
01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:39.320
<v Speaker 4>ladies that are kind of oh you know, they memory

999
01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:42.960
<v Speaker 4>care patients. Yeah, they're trying to get him.

1000
01:05:43.280 --> 01:05:48.079
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah there, and they get they get very feisty.

1001
01:05:48.280 --> 01:05:55.119
<v Speaker 3>And the population uh in facilities nowadays is mostly women

1002
01:05:55.760 --> 01:06:01.239
<v Speaker 3>because for the most part, women outlive men. And so

1003
01:06:02.280 --> 01:06:05.880
<v Speaker 3>you got a bunch of horny, feisty old ladies because

1004
01:06:06.800 --> 01:06:11.480
<v Speaker 3>your your hormones peek and trough at certain times in

1005
01:06:11.519 --> 01:06:15.920
<v Speaker 3>your life. And the elderly patients it is peaked, believe

1006
01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:21.000
<v Speaker 3>it or not, and so they are a hortier than

1007
01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:21.880
<v Speaker 3>a house on fire.

1008
01:06:22.880 --> 01:06:25.199
<v Speaker 4>It's pretty funny because we used to have couples that

1009
01:06:25.239 --> 01:06:29.199
<v Speaker 4>would have their own rooms, like and I was young,

1010
01:06:29.559 --> 01:06:33.239
<v Speaker 4>and I was even a nurse, and they always told me,

1011
01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:35.679
<v Speaker 4>make sure you not before you know and you mean too,

1012
01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:39.440
<v Speaker 4>you mean too for privacy. The things I seen that

1013
01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:44.079
<v Speaker 4>day I cannot unsee. And you came.

1014
01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:46.639
<v Speaker 6>Home all the way taking notes, going we should try this.

1015
01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:50.960
<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh. I was barely nicety something right. I

1016
01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:53.239
<v Speaker 4>was like maybe I was twenty because I had had

1017
01:06:53.239 --> 01:06:55.239
<v Speaker 4>a baby by then. And I came home and cried

1018
01:06:55.239 --> 01:06:58.880
<v Speaker 4>and cried and I said, honey, you love me when

1019
01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:02.440
<v Speaker 4>everything is on the ground, you know all the things,

1020
01:07:02.559 --> 01:07:04.280
<v Speaker 4>And he said, of course, And I said well, you

1021
01:07:04.320 --> 01:07:06.840
<v Speaker 4>know what, I have to love you that way too,

1022
01:07:06.880 --> 01:07:10.719
<v Speaker 4>because I saw something swinging clear down to somebody's knees today.

1023
01:07:15.039 --> 01:07:15.800
<v Speaker 4>That was scary.

1024
01:07:17.039 --> 01:07:18.239
<v Speaker 6>Guess new meetings.

1025
01:07:18.039 --> 01:07:21.559
<v Speaker 4>Work your cream master muscle is a good advice if

1026
01:07:21.559 --> 01:07:22.159
<v Speaker 4>you're a dude.

1027
01:07:22.679 --> 01:07:28.519
<v Speaker 3>Maybe maybe he was the original guy that did like

1028
01:07:28.559 --> 01:07:29.840
<v Speaker 3>the helicopter thing.

1029
01:07:29.960 --> 01:07:32.800
<v Speaker 4>Oh he was like ninety two. They were getting it down.

1030
01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:35.519
<v Speaker 4>They and I came out all shook, and the girl goes,

1031
01:07:35.599 --> 01:07:37.199
<v Speaker 4>I told you to knock. I said, I thought you

1032
01:07:37.239 --> 01:07:40.360
<v Speaker 4>meant for privacy and I didn't. I'm sorry, I meant

1033
01:07:40.360 --> 01:07:42.679
<v Speaker 4>to and she said no, they do this all day,

1034
01:07:43.119 --> 01:07:47.320
<v Speaker 4>and I was like shit. I was like, oh my.

1035
01:07:47.400 --> 01:07:49.960
<v Speaker 6>Gil, there's no boredom in their room.

1036
01:07:50.599 --> 01:07:53.440
<v Speaker 4>Nope, you didn't go in there without knocking six times

1037
01:07:53.440 --> 01:07:57.320
<v Speaker 4>a day. They were busy, just saying, oh, Will and

1038
01:07:57.599 --> 01:08:01.519
<v Speaker 4>mar you know what, that's great, they're married whatever. I

1039
01:08:01.559 --> 01:08:03.119
<v Speaker 4>hope that's mere.

1040
01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:06.760
<v Speaker 3>More powerfil I hope that when we get that age

1041
01:08:06.800 --> 01:08:08.000
<v Speaker 3>that we're also.

1042
01:08:08.599 --> 01:08:11.519
<v Speaker 4>Just not six times a day. That's insane.

1043
01:08:11.880 --> 01:08:16.279
<v Speaker 6>But yeah, oh.

1044
01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:21.079
<v Speaker 4>Boy, the things you see nursing is fun.

1045
01:08:22.479 --> 01:08:25.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that is I mean, we could write novels

1046
01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:30.560
<v Speaker 3>about like all of novels about things that We have

1047
01:08:30.720 --> 01:08:37.000
<v Speaker 3>seen so many so on the over or understaffing issue

1048
01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:44.000
<v Speaker 3>in terms of and this kind of shed some light

1049
01:08:44.159 --> 01:08:48.119
<v Speaker 3>on why this is such a problem. But more than

1050
01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:55.239
<v Speaker 3>ninety percent of all US nursing homes are severely understaffed.

1051
01:08:56.359 --> 01:09:01.520
<v Speaker 3>Now that is frightening that you only have about ten percent.

1052
01:09:02.239 --> 01:09:05.760
<v Speaker 6>And they're the rich peoples they have okay staff.

1053
01:09:06.960 --> 01:09:14.239
<v Speaker 3>And everybody else we're sorry. So I don't know, but

1054
01:09:14.319 --> 01:09:19.960
<v Speaker 3>that's terrible. But because of the understaffing problems. Definitely have

1055
01:09:20.199 --> 01:09:24.920
<v Speaker 3>a severe weight loss problem due to insufficient feeding because

1056
01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:27.079
<v Speaker 3>like I said, a lot of them need buried food

1057
01:09:27.159 --> 01:09:31.600
<v Speaker 3>and whatever, and you can't humanly feed forty people at

1058
01:09:31.600 --> 01:09:32.239
<v Speaker 3>the time, so.

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01:09:32.199 --> 01:09:33.840
<v Speaker 6>It takes it's open.

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01:09:34.119 --> 01:09:39.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I found this one really, this one bothered me.

1061
01:09:39.479 --> 01:09:39.720
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

1062
01:09:39.760 --> 01:09:42.399
<v Speaker 4>They all do the same thing, and there's little kids

1063
01:09:42.439 --> 01:09:45.239
<v Speaker 4>with grown ups. But if you notice they pull into

1064
01:09:45.279 --> 01:09:47.720
<v Speaker 4>themselves and this happens and they stay this way, they

1065
01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:49.159
<v Speaker 4>get contracted.

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01:09:48.960 --> 01:09:55.359
<v Speaker 3>One hundred and so along those lines, they also get

1067
01:09:55.399 --> 01:09:58.319
<v Speaker 3>a lot of bed sores because they leave them in

1068
01:09:58.359 --> 01:10:03.000
<v Speaker 3>their bed or in a wheelchair all day long.

1069
01:10:03.199 --> 01:10:03.600
<v Speaker 6>And so.

1070
01:10:05.239 --> 01:10:07.640
<v Speaker 3>If you're supposed to go in and turn a patient,

1071
01:10:07.920 --> 01:10:12.079
<v Speaker 3>you know, every every hour, every two hours, that doesn't happen.

1072
01:10:12.119 --> 01:10:15.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, it doesn't happen, and so your your skin

1073
01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:20.640
<v Speaker 3>breaks down and you get awful bed sores that can

1074
01:10:20.920 --> 01:10:25.600
<v Speaker 3>literally tunnel all the way down to the bone. And

1075
01:10:25.680 --> 01:10:30.680
<v Speaker 3>the smell, Yeah, I have seen that and it is terrible.

1076
01:10:31.279 --> 01:10:37.439
<v Speaker 3>And so when they have those infections like that, those ulcers,

1077
01:10:37.479 --> 01:10:40.920
<v Speaker 3>those bed sores, that can lead to a blood infection,

1078
01:10:41.159 --> 01:10:45.399
<v Speaker 3>so they can get sepsis just because they're not turning

1079
01:10:45.439 --> 01:10:50.479
<v Speaker 3>them properly, or a lot of times it's on people's heels.

1080
01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:53.560
<v Speaker 3>They're supposed to put heel cups on them that are

1081
01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:57.560
<v Speaker 3>made of like lambskin or whatever so that you don't

1082
01:10:57.600 --> 01:11:01.600
<v Speaker 3>feel or not lambskin, lamb's wool, so that you don't

1083
01:11:02.319 --> 01:11:05.560
<v Speaker 3>you know, that's not completely rubbing on the sheets all

1084
01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:06.439
<v Speaker 3>the time and stuff.

1085
01:11:06.560 --> 01:11:09.399
<v Speaker 6>So I've seen some on the butt.

1086
01:11:09.279 --> 01:11:12.079
<v Speaker 4>And the toxics those are the worst ones.

1087
01:11:12.159 --> 01:11:17.720
<v Speaker 6>They're they're awful and they do smell like the worst.

1088
01:11:18.640 --> 01:11:19.640
<v Speaker 4>Running forget it.

1089
01:11:20.079 --> 01:11:23.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that you can't get out of your nose and

1090
01:11:23.159 --> 01:11:27.039
<v Speaker 3>it's literally stuck in your nose for for days time

1091
01:11:27.119 --> 01:11:27.960
<v Speaker 3>and all eternity.

1092
01:11:28.079 --> 01:11:29.319
<v Speaker 4>That's a Mormon word.

1093
01:11:29.920 --> 01:11:35.640
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, h and it's it's like disturbing, it's like

1094
01:11:35.800 --> 01:11:38.720
<v Speaker 3>smelling sea diff and that just like.

1095
01:11:39.159 --> 01:11:40.439
<v Speaker 6>With you with sea diff as a.

1096
01:11:42.119 --> 01:11:45.279
<v Speaker 4>Sea diff g I bleed and bed sores.

1097
01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:50.960
<v Speaker 6>So also they're going to have really bad hygiene because

1098
01:11:51.079 --> 01:11:54.800
<v Speaker 6>they can't shower themselves. They're dependent on someone to shower them.

1099
01:11:54.960 --> 01:12:03.800
<v Speaker 3>How do you shower, toilet and dress forty people within

1100
01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:05.399
<v Speaker 3>an hour or two.

1101
01:12:05.640 --> 01:12:08.239
<v Speaker 4>And clean up their room and get them ice.

1102
01:12:08.279 --> 01:12:19.359
<v Speaker 3>And dressing their wounds not possible, and so that's a

1103
01:12:19.439 --> 01:12:23.479
<v Speaker 3>huge problem for them as well. And then rather than

1104
01:12:23.800 --> 01:12:26.760
<v Speaker 3>hear them screaming, because some of them, if they will

1105
01:12:26.800 --> 01:12:30.840
<v Speaker 3>them in the hall, they will literally scream all day long.

1106
01:12:30.840 --> 01:12:31.479
<v Speaker 6>Non stop.

1107
01:12:31.600 --> 01:12:34.880
<v Speaker 3>That's when they like drug them and sedatum so that

1108
01:12:34.960 --> 01:12:37.760
<v Speaker 3>they don't have to listen to them making any noise.

1109
01:12:38.479 --> 01:12:41.640
<v Speaker 4>Which is even more sad because that's the people that

1110
01:12:42.319 --> 01:12:45.119
<v Speaker 4>actually still try, but the ones that don't try it

1111
01:12:45.159 --> 01:12:46.319
<v Speaker 4>all that gets me so.

1112
01:12:46.560 --> 01:12:52.399
<v Speaker 3>Rightad Like, So there is a new trend and uh,

1113
01:12:52.479 --> 01:12:56.800
<v Speaker 3>this is kind of yeah, this is kind of interesting

1114
01:12:56.840 --> 01:13:02.159
<v Speaker 3>to me. So they're they're moving away from nursing home

1115
01:13:02.279 --> 01:13:06.960
<v Speaker 3>facilities per se. And they've come up with a new

1116
01:13:07.039 --> 01:13:13.359
<v Speaker 3>idea called the greenhouse project. That's an interesting name, but

1117
01:13:13.520 --> 01:13:20.479
<v Speaker 3>it is a redesign of nursing homes meant to eliminate

1118
01:13:20.640 --> 01:13:26.920
<v Speaker 3>institutional hospital like feeling for and they're swapping out like

1119
01:13:26.960 --> 01:13:32.720
<v Speaker 3>these big giant care facilities to small home based living

1120
01:13:33.199 --> 01:13:38.359
<v Speaker 3>centers where patients are supposed to have more dignity and

1121
01:13:38.399 --> 01:13:45.560
<v Speaker 3>more autonomy and more one on one basically relationship given care.

1122
01:13:45.680 --> 01:13:51.359
<v Speaker 3>So instead of facilities that house you know, hundreds of

1123
01:13:51.479 --> 01:13:56.000
<v Speaker 3>residents at a time, these new greenhouse facilities are ten

1124
01:13:56.039 --> 01:13:58.560
<v Speaker 3>to twelve people in a well.

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01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:03.520
<v Speaker 4>Oh cute. But I also like, there was this old

1126
01:14:03.560 --> 01:14:07.680
<v Speaker 4>picture and I guess I didn't download, but there was

1127
01:14:07.760 --> 01:14:12.479
<v Speaker 4>like these little cottages, like like really old fashioned apartments,

1128
01:14:12.520 --> 01:14:14.199
<v Speaker 4>and I guess they used to do that like back

1129
01:14:14.239 --> 01:14:16.760
<v Speaker 4>in the day when they were turning the mansions or

1130
01:14:16.800 --> 01:14:19.800
<v Speaker 4>whatever into like homes, and oh maybe this is it.

1131
01:14:19.840 --> 01:14:22.840
<v Speaker 4>Look look how cute this is. And I'm like, this

1132
01:14:23.279 --> 01:14:26.199
<v Speaker 4>is amazing, Like these this is like a nursing and

1133
01:14:26.239 --> 01:14:29.119
<v Speaker 4>they help a tiny garden. But but my favorite idea

1134
01:14:29.319 --> 01:14:33.239
<v Speaker 4>is this, y'all, and listen people that have money, because

1135
01:14:33.279 --> 01:14:38.439
<v Speaker 4>I don't. These malls, yeah that are going out and

1136
01:14:38.439 --> 01:14:42.720
<v Speaker 4>they have like tons of floors of like amazingness. I

1137
01:14:42.840 --> 01:14:45.000
<v Speaker 4>saw this thing where somebody said turn all the old

1138
01:14:45.039 --> 01:14:47.600
<v Speaker 4>malls into nursing homes because people used to love to

1139
01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:50.279
<v Speaker 4>go to the malls and just set up fake shops

1140
01:14:50.319 --> 01:14:52.960
<v Speaker 4>and just let them go walk in their power walk

1141
01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:54.760
<v Speaker 4>and do all their stuff. And of course you have

1142
01:14:54.800 --> 01:14:57.239
<v Speaker 4>one wing of like sick people, but a lot of

1143
01:14:57.279 --> 01:14:59.520
<v Speaker 4>them aren't sick. They're just kind of crazy. Let crazy

1144
01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:03.000
<v Speaker 4>Joe go hide in the shopping center firm. I mean,

1145
01:15:03.039 --> 01:15:05.640
<v Speaker 4>who put on a lot put an apple tag on him,

1146
01:15:05.680 --> 01:15:07.279
<v Speaker 4>It'll be fine. Come well.

1147
01:15:07.439 --> 01:15:13.199
<v Speaker 3>And a lot of them elderly patients like mall walking anyway.

1148
01:15:13.439 --> 01:15:18.600
<v Speaker 3>So and that's that's actually a really good idea. Now

1149
01:15:18.680 --> 01:15:22.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to say, even what these little greenhouse things, Okay,

1150
01:15:22.159 --> 01:15:24.920
<v Speaker 3>they're supposed to be ten to twelve people in a facility.

1151
01:15:26.039 --> 01:15:29.560
<v Speaker 3>We had facilities like these, and the state that I

1152
01:15:29.680 --> 01:15:34.920
<v Speaker 3>came from not a nursing home facility, but for people

1153
01:15:34.960 --> 01:15:41.640
<v Speaker 3>that were like developmentally disabled. They are still like ungodly

1154
01:15:42.399 --> 01:15:49.000
<v Speaker 3>understaffed and you know, poor training or abusive or whatever.

1155
01:15:49.680 --> 01:15:54.640
<v Speaker 3>So I can still see this being a problem.

1156
01:15:54.760 --> 01:15:55.800
<v Speaker 4>It's so crappy.

1157
01:15:56.319 --> 01:15:58.319
<v Speaker 3>It was like to the guy that thought of this

1158
01:15:59.760 --> 01:16:05.319
<v Speaker 3>has name was William H. Thomas and advocated for this

1159
01:16:05.399 --> 01:16:06.439
<v Speaker 3>for a long time.

1160
01:16:06.520 --> 01:16:10.359
<v Speaker 6>And so you know great workers.

1161
01:16:10.399 --> 01:16:16.520
<v Speaker 3>In these places, they're called universal workers and in his model,

1162
01:16:16.560 --> 01:16:20.720
<v Speaker 3>in these greenhouse models or schabasms.

1163
01:16:20.439 --> 01:16:21.479
<v Speaker 6>That's what they call them.

1164
01:16:24.079 --> 01:16:28.319
<v Speaker 3>So they're cross trained to do everything. And so not

1165
01:16:28.399 --> 01:16:32.560
<v Speaker 3>only do they cook the meals, they provide personal care,

1166
01:16:33.119 --> 01:16:38.479
<v Speaker 3>They clean, and they build and forge relationships with patients.

1167
01:16:40.920 --> 01:16:44.119
<v Speaker 3>If I worked home healthcare, and that's literally what a

1168
01:16:44.159 --> 01:16:48.199
<v Speaker 3>home health aid does. Uh, you know, they have to

1169
01:16:48.239 --> 01:16:50.640
<v Speaker 3>do all the things they can do, the laundry and

1170
01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:53.319
<v Speaker 3>all the stuff. It's basically like being a mom.

1171
01:16:53.920 --> 01:16:56.960
<v Speaker 4>Right, some of them have Okay, so we're in this

1172
01:16:57.239 --> 01:17:01.479
<v Speaker 4>new era of patients have rights. Right. My favorite one

1173
01:17:01.560 --> 01:17:03.359
<v Speaker 4>is my daughter worked in one of these homes for

1174
01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:09.439
<v Speaker 4>people with TBIs and she's like, there's this one patient.

1175
01:17:09.720 --> 01:17:12.800
<v Speaker 4>You can't tell them they can't do things right, Like,

1176
01:17:13.119 --> 01:17:16.439
<v Speaker 4>they can do things within their parameters. And so one

1177
01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:18.600
<v Speaker 4>of his parameters was like he can go for a

1178
01:17:18.640 --> 01:17:22.560
<v Speaker 4>walk or he can whatever because he's not completely gone. Well,

1179
01:17:22.560 --> 01:17:25.199
<v Speaker 4>he'll go for a walk and get a hooker a lot.

1180
01:17:28.039 --> 01:17:31.279
<v Speaker 6>Again, And she couldn't sign into.

1181
01:17:31.079 --> 01:17:35.000
<v Speaker 4>The facility because that was illegal, but like they could

1182
01:17:35.039 --> 01:17:37.880
<v Speaker 4>go for a walk and she's like, Mom, I'm like,

1183
01:17:37.960 --> 01:17:40.880
<v Speaker 4>oh my gosh, yeah, I don't know. I said, well,

1184
01:17:41.479 --> 01:17:43.359
<v Speaker 4>the only thing that I would do. She goes, what

1185
01:17:43.399 --> 01:17:46.560
<v Speaker 4>would you do if you were the owner in this position?

1186
01:17:46.600 --> 01:17:49.199
<v Speaker 4>And I said, run an STD panel every month.

1187
01:17:49.279 --> 01:17:55.279
<v Speaker 6>I don't know what else to say, because they still.

1188
01:17:56.920 --> 01:17:59.840
<v Speaker 3>Have some kind of bodily autonomy, right, And if you're

1189
01:18:00.359 --> 01:18:03.039
<v Speaker 3>if you're in a facility, your family sticks you in

1190
01:18:03.079 --> 01:18:05.000
<v Speaker 3>a facility, you're lonely.

1191
01:18:05.159 --> 01:18:06.439
<v Speaker 6>That's why.

1192
01:18:07.880 --> 01:18:13.680
<v Speaker 3>There are STD rates that elevate in you know, elderly

1193
01:18:13.760 --> 01:18:19.399
<v Speaker 3>communities or living assistant living facilities or whatever. Because it's

1194
01:18:19.520 --> 01:18:24.479
<v Speaker 3>human nature to need human contact and skin to skin interaction,

1195
01:18:25.560 --> 01:18:30.119
<v Speaker 3>and so it's normal that people want to do that.

1196
01:18:30.239 --> 01:18:33.239
<v Speaker 3>And so what they've been in like a sexual being

1197
01:18:33.279 --> 01:18:35.319
<v Speaker 3>their whole life, and now all of a sudden, because

1198
01:18:35.319 --> 01:18:37.479
<v Speaker 3>they're older, you're going to be like, that's gross, you

1199
01:18:37.520 --> 01:18:38.560
<v Speaker 3>can't do that anymore.

1200
01:18:38.800 --> 01:18:41.039
<v Speaker 4>And they didn't use protection as much back in the day,

1201
01:18:41.119 --> 01:18:43.239
<v Speaker 4>so I don't think it dawns on them.

1202
01:18:43.640 --> 01:18:48.880
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's the high rate of syphilis.

1203
01:18:49.039 --> 01:18:49.880
<v Speaker 4>What are you gonna do?

1204
01:18:50.640 --> 01:18:53.479
<v Speaker 6>I'm just saying, I don't know.

1205
01:18:54.279 --> 01:18:58.359
<v Speaker 3>And so these places that don't believe in the chemical

1206
01:18:58.439 --> 01:19:03.680
<v Speaker 3>restraints or physical restraints or anything like that, they don't

1207
01:19:03.800 --> 01:19:06.920
<v Speaker 3>have you know, they don't make them get up at

1208
01:19:06.960 --> 01:19:10.000
<v Speaker 3>like five o'clock every morning and feeding at eight or

1209
01:19:10.039 --> 01:19:13.720
<v Speaker 3>anything like that. It's very like a laid back kind

1210
01:19:13.720 --> 01:19:16.279
<v Speaker 3>of concept, which I kind of like. But like I said,

1211
01:19:18.000 --> 01:19:21.000
<v Speaker 3>is it really going to be any different in one

1212
01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:25.520
<v Speaker 3>of these facilities than it is in any other facility?

1213
01:19:26.560 --> 01:19:29.119
<v Speaker 4>Are you seeing? Are you seeing the pictures or is

1214
01:19:29.159 --> 01:19:29.840
<v Speaker 4>it delayed?

1215
01:19:30.119 --> 01:19:32.960
<v Speaker 6>Sorry, well now I see the picture. Okay, got up there.

1216
01:19:33.119 --> 01:19:34.600
<v Speaker 4>That's so weird. Okay.

1217
01:19:34.840 --> 01:19:40.279
<v Speaker 3>So these are supposed to be beneficial facilities because with

1218
01:19:40.439 --> 01:19:45.760
<v Speaker 3>the autonomy and keeping their dignity and all of that stuff.

1219
01:19:46.720 --> 01:19:52.800
<v Speaker 3>Statistically speaking, they're saying that they have fewer hospitalizations, so

1220
01:19:53.000 --> 01:20:01.560
<v Speaker 3>lower hospitalization rate, fewer bedsores, pressure ulcers, redo us, the

1221
01:20:01.680 --> 01:20:09.319
<v Speaker 3>use of any antipsychotic medications, families are happier, and they

1222
01:20:09.359 --> 01:20:10.640
<v Speaker 3>have better staff retention.

1223
01:20:11.840 --> 01:20:14.159
<v Speaker 4>But the only thing is is they do get paid

1224
01:20:14.199 --> 01:20:18.960
<v Speaker 4>for services, so like ot PT. So what they would

1225
01:20:19.000 --> 01:20:22.359
<v Speaker 4>do at this unnamed place that my daughter doesn't work

1226
01:20:22.359 --> 01:20:25.640
<v Speaker 4>out anymore where she loved the people and her boss

1227
01:20:25.720 --> 01:20:28.239
<v Speaker 4>was creep by the way, a freaking creep that tried

1228
01:20:28.239 --> 01:20:33.279
<v Speaker 4>to hit on her. Anyway, long story short is they

1229
01:20:33.279 --> 01:20:36.279
<v Speaker 4>forced these residents to go to the gym, they like have.

1230
01:20:37.880 --> 01:20:38.399
<v Speaker 6>Wreck time.

1231
01:20:39.800 --> 01:20:44.279
<v Speaker 3>Oh I lost you again. If you can hear me,

1232
01:20:44.359 --> 01:20:53.239
<v Speaker 3>you're frozen. Oh oh, Jim, please stop it. And so

1233
01:20:54.000 --> 01:21:00.960
<v Speaker 3>these places also report lower infection sorry that oh now

1234
01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:07.199
<v Speaker 3>she's going again, lower infections and lower mortality rates at

1235
01:21:07.239 --> 01:21:11.680
<v Speaker 3>these greenhouses. So if that is a if that's a thing,

1236
01:21:11.920 --> 01:21:14.880
<v Speaker 3>then good for them, you know, I hope they're I

1237
01:21:14.920 --> 01:21:17.359
<v Speaker 3>hope that that stays that way.

1238
01:21:17.479 --> 01:21:21.279
<v Speaker 4>But I don't Maybe this guy has family or something

1239
01:21:21.359 --> 01:21:26.840
<v Speaker 4>that maybe I was telling my story. Uh, they forced

1240
01:21:26.920 --> 01:21:29.920
<v Speaker 4>them sometimes to go to the gym when they don't

1241
01:21:29.920 --> 01:21:32.000
<v Speaker 4>want to go, So that's what I was saying.

1242
01:21:32.600 --> 01:21:34.399
<v Speaker 6>They get for recreation time.

1243
01:21:35.119 --> 01:21:38.399
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there I shared again. I don't know, it's being crazy,

1244
01:21:38.479 --> 01:21:39.680
<v Speaker 4>but it's kind.

1245
01:21:39.520 --> 01:21:42.800
<v Speaker 3>Of like like a lot of facilities, they have a

1246
01:21:44.720 --> 01:21:49.760
<v Speaker 3>like activities director whatnot, and so they'll have uh, you know,

1247
01:21:50.119 --> 01:21:56.720
<v Speaker 3>like scrabble game time or craft making or whatever, which

1248
01:21:56.800 --> 01:21:58.600
<v Speaker 3>is great for people like in a.

1249
01:21:58.600 --> 01:22:00.680
<v Speaker 6>Retirement community or or whatnot.

1250
01:22:01.399 --> 01:22:08.880
<v Speaker 3>But those things were created two for staff to wheel

1251
01:22:08.960 --> 01:22:11.760
<v Speaker 3>these patients down and stick them in a room for

1252
01:22:11.840 --> 01:22:17.239
<v Speaker 3>craft time or whatever it is, so that the other staff,

1253
01:22:17.399 --> 01:22:23.039
<v Speaker 3>the CNAs or aids of whatever kind, or nurses could

1254
01:22:23.199 --> 01:22:26.720
<v Speaker 3>actually have a breather or have a break, have a

1255
01:22:26.800 --> 01:22:29.479
<v Speaker 3>moment to themselves, and.

1256
01:22:29.439 --> 01:22:34.600
<v Speaker 4>So can you see these? Okay now, Jesus.

1257
01:22:33.840 --> 01:22:36.359
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's kind of crazy.

1258
01:22:36.920 --> 01:22:38.039
<v Speaker 4>Let's be a nuns today.

1259
01:22:38.600 --> 01:22:43.000
<v Speaker 3>So right now in the United States, there are about

1260
01:22:43.079 --> 01:22:49.279
<v Speaker 3>three hundred and eighty two of these greenhouse homes in

1261
01:22:49.439 --> 01:22:53.800
<v Speaker 3>eighty one or thirty three different states and eighty one

1262
01:22:53.840 --> 01:22:59.159
<v Speaker 3>different campuses. So I guess these eighty one campuses must

1263
01:22:59.239 --> 01:23:02.560
<v Speaker 3>have multiple of these greenhouses. Kind of like the picture

1264
01:23:02.600 --> 01:23:05.439
<v Speaker 3>that you showed where it kind of looks like a

1265
01:23:05.439 --> 01:23:07.199
<v Speaker 3>little subdivision or whatever.

1266
01:23:07.720 --> 01:23:10.720
<v Speaker 4>These look like little tunnels maybe for food. Maybe these

1267
01:23:10.720 --> 01:23:12.880
<v Speaker 4>are like more independent people than these are.

1268
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<v Speaker 3>So only three hundred and eighty two of these in

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01:23:15.880 --> 01:23:19.319
<v Speaker 3>the United States, and these are supposed to be like

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01:23:19.479 --> 01:23:25.479
<v Speaker 3>the exception of care or exceptional care. So that's to

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01:23:25.560 --> 01:23:27.800
<v Speaker 3>me not very good numbers because.

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01:23:28.359 --> 01:23:30.079
<v Speaker 4>You know, I bet they're more I mean, I don't

1273
01:23:30.079 --> 01:23:31.800
<v Speaker 4>know how much they would be, but I'm sure they're

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01:23:31.840 --> 01:23:32.399
<v Speaker 4>more money.

1275
01:23:32.680 --> 01:23:37.560
<v Speaker 6>Oh I'm sure. And so I don't know, but the.

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01:23:39.119 --> 01:23:44.199
<v Speaker 3>Like I said, if if, if they do and their

1277
01:23:44.239 --> 01:23:48.079
<v Speaker 3>staff are happy, which you would have to pay your

1278
01:23:48.119 --> 01:23:52.039
<v Speaker 3>staff very well to not only be an aid but

1279
01:23:52.119 --> 01:23:53.520
<v Speaker 3>a cook and a cleaner.

1280
01:23:53.680 --> 01:23:55.119
<v Speaker 6>And all the things.

1281
01:23:55.279 --> 01:23:56.319
<v Speaker 4>Right, that's a lot.

1282
01:23:56.880 --> 01:24:00.760
<v Speaker 3>You would have to compensate them very well for them

1283
01:24:00.880 --> 01:24:05.479
<v Speaker 3>to retain staff and to have a happy staff, because

1284
01:24:05.520 --> 01:24:08.960
<v Speaker 3>if not, you're gonna wind up with staff that you

1285
01:24:09.079 --> 01:24:11.439
<v Speaker 3>get in a lot of nursing homes that should never

1286
01:24:11.560 --> 01:24:19.079
<v Speaker 3>ever be around to elderly people ever, right though, So

1287
01:24:19.880 --> 01:24:24.960
<v Speaker 3>this is disgusting, But talking about the abuse and thing,

1288
01:24:25.199 --> 01:24:31.800
<v Speaker 3>I actually saw some first hand accounts of residents who

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01:24:32.920 --> 01:24:39.239
<v Speaker 3>not only were like set out in the sun during

1290
01:24:39.319 --> 01:24:42.000
<v Speaker 3>heat waves and they would make them stay out there,

1291
01:24:42.840 --> 01:24:45.840
<v Speaker 3>but they would put them on shower schedules where they

1292
01:24:45.840 --> 01:24:48.600
<v Speaker 3>would only be able to bathe once a week.

1293
01:24:49.159 --> 01:24:52.640
<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm. That's pretty typical, well, any times a week in.

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01:24:52.680 --> 01:24:57.920
<v Speaker 3>A facility like that where you literally walk in the

1295
01:24:57.960 --> 01:25:04.079
<v Speaker 3>door and it smells like pee and poop, I was

1296
01:25:04.119 --> 01:25:08.479
<v Speaker 3>gonna say every facility I have ever been in, it's

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01:25:08.560 --> 01:25:11.399
<v Speaker 3>like an overwhelming smell as soon as you walk in

1298
01:25:11.479 --> 01:25:14.920
<v Speaker 3>the door. That's literally what it smells like. The people

1299
01:25:14.960 --> 01:25:17.840
<v Speaker 3>sitting in the hallway with dirty diapers and.

1300
01:25:17.640 --> 01:25:18.359
<v Speaker 6>Stuff like that.

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01:25:18.479 --> 01:25:21.439
<v Speaker 3>If they put them in a diaper or uh they

1302
01:25:21.479 --> 01:25:23.680
<v Speaker 3>put the chuck's pads on the bed and let.

1303
01:25:23.560 --> 01:25:26.960
<v Speaker 6>Them you know, pee your poop on those and then

1304
01:25:27.000 --> 01:25:27.640
<v Speaker 6>they leave.

1305
01:25:27.520 --> 01:25:31.640
<v Speaker 3>Them laying in that. So that's why the facility smell

1306
01:25:31.800 --> 01:25:33.000
<v Speaker 3>so really badly.

1307
01:25:33.119 --> 01:25:36.479
<v Speaker 4>But and then they have one fancy room when you

1308
01:25:36.520 --> 01:25:40.119
<v Speaker 4>come in, I minus this whatever on the side. But

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01:25:40.319 --> 01:25:42.920
<v Speaker 4>I just thought this was a funny rendition of it,

1310
01:25:42.960 --> 01:25:46.000
<v Speaker 4>because they always have this grand and then it's so.

1311
01:25:46.119 --> 01:25:51.920
<v Speaker 3>Bad they have one of those fancy rooms for people.

1312
01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:55.119
<v Speaker 3>And that way, like, if they have somebody that wants

1313
01:25:55.199 --> 01:25:59.159
<v Speaker 3>to come and tour the facility, they'll take them in

1314
01:25:59.239 --> 01:26:01.520
<v Speaker 3>there and they'll try to keep them in there as

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01:26:01.560 --> 01:26:05.600
<v Speaker 3>long as possible in that room and away from the chaos.

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01:26:06.640 --> 01:26:10.720
<v Speaker 4>Wait, they don't put like the crazy screaming help right

1317
01:26:11.119 --> 01:26:12.279
<v Speaker 4>lady by them.

1318
01:26:12.880 --> 01:26:18.720
<v Speaker 3>So nursing homes are another place where the government ran

1319
01:26:19.039 --> 01:26:24.800
<v Speaker 3>some experimentation, and this is documented by the FDA, And

1320
01:26:24.880 --> 01:26:29.680
<v Speaker 3>so this didn't happen in all of them, but select

1321
01:26:30.359 --> 01:26:33.159
<v Speaker 3>nursing homes. Wink wink, And I'm sure there's more than

1322
01:26:33.840 --> 01:26:41.239
<v Speaker 3>what's listed, But internal FDA documents reveal that experimental drugs

1323
01:26:41.279 --> 01:26:48.479
<v Speaker 3>were sometimes slipped either into patients' food after refusal, or

1324
01:26:48.600 --> 01:26:57.039
<v Speaker 3>administered to disoriented or cognitively impaired patients who could not consent.

1325
01:26:57.199 --> 01:27:01.399
<v Speaker 3>And so again nursing homes were testing ground for the

1326
01:27:01.479 --> 01:27:05.079
<v Speaker 3>FDA to try to get approval on this that or

1327
01:27:05.119 --> 01:27:13.680
<v Speaker 3>the other. And sometimes according to these FDA papers, they

1328
01:27:13.720 --> 01:27:18.079
<v Speaker 3>would not even stay in their study parameters, which that

1329
01:27:18.399 --> 01:27:22.399
<v Speaker 3>happens all the time when they're doing trials, but they

1330
01:27:22.439 --> 01:27:25.239
<v Speaker 3>would have like an age limitation that it had to

1331
01:27:25.279 --> 01:27:29.960
<v Speaker 3>be nobody over like say eighty years old or something

1332
01:27:30.079 --> 01:27:34.560
<v Speaker 3>like that, and in their own documentation it would show

1333
01:27:34.680 --> 01:27:39.079
<v Speaker 3>that they completely skirted that and they would experiment on

1334
01:27:39.199 --> 01:27:42.119
<v Speaker 3>people that were even as old as like ninety eight

1335
01:27:42.199 --> 01:27:46.960
<v Speaker 3>years old, so nullifying basically their own study. But they

1336
01:27:46.960 --> 01:27:49.680
<v Speaker 3>did it anyway, and then those drugs got approved.

1337
01:27:50.439 --> 01:27:53.479
<v Speaker 6>Just like everything else does exactly.

1338
01:27:54.039 --> 01:28:00.600
<v Speaker 3>So like Heidie's talked about before, these kind of things

1339
01:28:00.600 --> 01:28:04.399
<v Speaker 3>are common where they experiment on population. And just like

1340
01:28:04.479 --> 01:28:11.319
<v Speaker 3>the Tuskegee Airban syphilis study that they did, even though

1341
01:28:11.319 --> 01:28:16.079
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't in a nursing home, but they they created

1342
01:28:16.159 --> 01:28:19.520
<v Speaker 3>all through history like the culture of where it's okay

1343
01:28:20.479 --> 01:28:27.640
<v Speaker 3>for our government or drug manufacturers to experiment on vulnerable populations,

1344
01:28:27.680 --> 01:28:29.199
<v Speaker 3>and they're definitely.

1345
01:28:31.279 --> 01:28:32.560
<v Speaker 6>A vulnerable.

1346
01:28:33.760 --> 01:28:35.239
<v Speaker 4>These are real pictures, you goys.

1347
01:28:35.760 --> 01:28:38.279
<v Speaker 6>They can't consent. This is the Tuskegee thing.

1348
01:28:38.399 --> 01:28:44.079
<v Speaker 4>Wasn't it, yep, just to see what would happen, so

1349
01:28:44.439 --> 01:28:46.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, the white guys could stop having their faces

1350
01:28:46.880 --> 01:28:48.159
<v Speaker 4>fall off, apparently.

1351
01:28:47.840 --> 01:28:50.600
<v Speaker 6>Right, And so.

1352
01:28:53.119 --> 01:28:57.319
<v Speaker 3>Ethical questions arise, and they have interviewed a lot of

1353
01:28:57.399 --> 01:29:02.159
<v Speaker 3>people that were caregivers and nursing homes, and they get

1354
01:29:02.199 --> 01:29:05.640
<v Speaker 3>to the point where they rationalize any kind of neglect

1355
01:29:05.920 --> 01:29:11.239
<v Speaker 3>or abuse and say that it's just an unavoidable part

1356
01:29:11.279 --> 01:29:19.119
<v Speaker 3>of the job because of you know, time and pressure, constraints, resources,

1357
01:29:19.199 --> 01:29:23.319
<v Speaker 3>lack of resources, and so they don't even see it

1358
01:29:23.399 --> 01:29:28.840
<v Speaker 3>as like unacceptable behavior. They see it as it's just

1359
01:29:28.920 --> 01:29:29.560
<v Speaker 3>part of work.

1360
01:29:29.680 --> 01:29:30.760
<v Speaker 6>And so that's what we do.

1361
01:29:30.800 --> 01:29:34.199
<v Speaker 3>We just neglect and abuse people all day long because

1362
01:29:34.680 --> 01:29:40.640
<v Speaker 3>the system created that basically have any other choice as

1363
01:29:40.680 --> 01:29:42.119
<v Speaker 3>we can get away with doing that.

1364
01:29:43.199 --> 01:29:49.119
<v Speaker 6>And so yeah, and so not only are they having.

1365
01:29:52.039 --> 01:29:55.920
<v Speaker 3>Problems with staffers in that aspect where that's come to

1366
01:29:55.960 --> 01:29:59.199
<v Speaker 3>be normalized that are okay that they do these kind

1367
01:29:59.199 --> 01:30:04.520
<v Speaker 3>of things, But we saw like during the COVID thing,

1368
01:30:04.680 --> 01:30:09.199
<v Speaker 3>where the government and facilities kind of like in cahoots

1369
01:30:09.199 --> 01:30:12.479
<v Speaker 3>where they're cut off all visitation.

1370
01:30:13.920 --> 01:30:17.840
<v Speaker 6>And stuff. And this is not new.

1371
01:30:18.600 --> 01:30:21.800
<v Speaker 3>This has happened throughout history where they cut off visitation

1372
01:30:22.199 --> 01:30:25.239
<v Speaker 3>or you can only come during certain hours the hospital

1373
01:30:25.319 --> 01:30:29.720
<v Speaker 3>does the same thing, and then what do you do

1374
01:30:29.840 --> 01:30:32.760
<v Speaker 3>with the other hours in the day, and how many

1375
01:30:32.880 --> 01:30:36.560
<v Speaker 3>bad things happened during that? And like I said, the

1376
01:30:36.680 --> 01:30:40.439
<v Speaker 3>law that was passed in twenty ten where they're mandated

1377
01:30:40.520 --> 01:30:46.039
<v Speaker 3>to report abuse and neglect, that's like telling the government

1378
01:30:46.159 --> 01:30:49.199
<v Speaker 3>that the government has to report on the government for

1379
01:30:50.479 --> 01:30:51.199
<v Speaker 3>doing because.

1380
01:30:51.000 --> 01:30:53.159
<v Speaker 6>They're making on the people.

1381
01:30:53.760 --> 01:30:56.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're making all the ratios through the states, they're

1382
01:30:56.880 --> 01:30:59.439
<v Speaker 4>making all these laws and then what do you do

1383
01:30:59.560 --> 01:31:00.560
<v Speaker 4>with that? Right?

1384
01:31:01.720 --> 01:31:05.800
<v Speaker 3>And so it's great that they're passing all this legislation

1385
01:31:06.000 --> 01:31:09.399
<v Speaker 3>and whatever. Actually there hasn't been that much legislation, but

1386
01:31:09.600 --> 01:31:13.439
<v Speaker 3>like four or five different piece of legislation since the

1387
01:31:13.520 --> 01:31:21.960
<v Speaker 3>early eighteen hundreds. But why are the facilities still operating

1388
01:31:22.239 --> 01:31:25.199
<v Speaker 3>like they did back in the day. It's because there

1389
01:31:25.319 --> 01:31:30.319
<v Speaker 3>is no enforcement branch to be like, you know what,

1390
01:31:30.520 --> 01:31:34.640
<v Speaker 3>and who's going to tell on themselves? And if the

1391
01:31:34.760 --> 01:31:38.119
<v Speaker 3>facility is having a lot of widespread abuse and neglect,

1392
01:31:38.600 --> 01:31:41.840
<v Speaker 3>are somebody inside the facility going to blow the whistle

1393
01:31:41.920 --> 01:31:45.520
<v Speaker 3>on that to the government where the government will come

1394
01:31:45.520 --> 01:31:48.159
<v Speaker 3>in and either cut fending or shut them down.

1395
01:31:49.399 --> 01:31:55.760
<v Speaker 4>No, not likely, not until there's a bunch of problems not.

1396
01:31:55.680 --> 01:32:01.359
<v Speaker 6>Going to happen. And so because of that, enforcement is

1397
01:32:01.560 --> 01:32:02.520
<v Speaker 6>very lax.

1398
01:32:02.680 --> 01:32:09.279
<v Speaker 3>It's very weak and spotty in most places. And so

1399
01:32:10.079 --> 01:32:16.840
<v Speaker 3>even since COVID, and this is interesting, serious deficiencies in

1400
01:32:17.000 --> 01:32:23.520
<v Speaker 3>nursing homes have risen sharply since COVID, So things are

1401
01:32:23.760 --> 01:32:29.039
<v Speaker 3>actually documented by the government that they're getting worse. But

1402
01:32:29.159 --> 01:32:34.279
<v Speaker 3>again there's no oversight and no regulation. So who's going

1403
01:32:34.359 --> 01:32:39.199
<v Speaker 3>to do anything, even though in their own reports they're like,

1404
01:32:39.239 --> 01:32:42.119
<v Speaker 3>oh my god, it's like awful now, a sharp spike

1405
01:32:42.199 --> 01:32:48.840
<v Speaker 3>and abuse and neglect cases and blah blah blah, but.

1406
01:32:47.880 --> 01:32:50.840
<v Speaker 4>We can't do anything and they'll get away with it because.

1407
01:32:50.800 --> 01:32:55.319
<v Speaker 3>You know, and it'll be like like the other facilities

1408
01:32:55.319 --> 01:32:57.319
<v Speaker 3>that we talked about, what's it going to be like

1409
01:32:57.399 --> 01:33:01.239
<v Speaker 3>the mental health asylums or whatever, like another twenty thirty

1410
01:33:01.319 --> 01:33:11.399
<v Speaker 3>years before anybody shuts them down, probably whatever. And so sometimes,

1411
01:33:12.960 --> 01:33:20.560
<v Speaker 3>and not very often, but prosecutors have brought charges against

1412
01:33:20.640 --> 01:33:28.119
<v Speaker 3>facilities under False Claims Acts instead of abuse or neglect

1413
01:33:28.199 --> 01:33:30.000
<v Speaker 3>or whatever, because those are harder to prove.

1414
01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:32.279
<v Speaker 6>You got to prove intent and all that kind of stuff.

1415
01:33:33.920 --> 01:33:38.079
<v Speaker 3>So they charge them under the False Claims Act because

1416
01:33:38.760 --> 01:33:45.560
<v Speaker 3>they're actually charging Medicare and Medicaid for services and things

1417
01:33:45.640 --> 01:33:50.720
<v Speaker 3>that were never performed. The hospitals do the same kind of.

1418
01:33:50.800 --> 01:33:52.600
<v Speaker 4>Like churning them every two hours.

1419
01:33:52.800 --> 01:33:58.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so they're billing for things that aren't documented or whatever.

1420
01:33:59.000 --> 01:34:01.279
<v Speaker 3>And so, like I said, it's easier for them to

1421
01:34:01.399 --> 01:34:06.359
<v Speaker 3>go after a facility under the False Claims Act because

1422
01:34:06.359 --> 01:34:10.560
<v Speaker 3>that involves money instead of going after abuse and neglect

1423
01:34:10.680 --> 01:34:16.880
<v Speaker 3>because they would actually have to prove that. So you

1424
01:34:17.039 --> 01:34:21.079
<v Speaker 3>go where the money lays, right. We wouldn't want to

1425
01:34:21.119 --> 01:34:25.359
<v Speaker 3>protect anybody, just like we don't protect kids either, but

1426
01:34:25.479 --> 01:34:30.520
<v Speaker 3>we're all up. We're about protecting the finances or the financiers.

1427
01:34:32.319 --> 01:34:37.800
<v Speaker 3>And so the problems continue to persist because of the

1428
01:34:37.920 --> 01:34:44.680
<v Speaker 3>profit incentives, not care outcomes. They don't care about that.

1429
01:34:45.800 --> 01:34:50.239
<v Speaker 3>So chronic understaffing and low rate wages is still going

1430
01:34:50.319 --> 01:34:52.960
<v Speaker 3>to be a problem because like I said, it's money

1431
01:34:53.119 --> 01:34:54.079
<v Speaker 3>over people.

1432
01:34:55.000 --> 01:34:57.199
<v Speaker 6>So they don't care if they're abused.

1433
01:34:56.800 --> 01:34:59.920
<v Speaker 3>And neglected as long as bottom dollar they're still breaking

1434
01:35:00.119 --> 01:35:07.039
<v Speaker 3>and funding and money. And there are not really good

1435
01:35:07.560 --> 01:35:15.119
<v Speaker 3>whistleblower protections in effect, and that goes for hospitals and

1436
01:35:15.199 --> 01:35:17.880
<v Speaker 3>all that kind of stuff, or even government as we've

1437
01:35:17.920 --> 01:35:24.479
<v Speaker 3>seen so even though they're not supposed to retaliate against whistleblowers,

1438
01:35:24.640 --> 01:35:26.319
<v Speaker 3>it literally happens.

1439
01:35:25.960 --> 01:35:28.479
<v Speaker 6>All the time. You can lose whatever.

1440
01:35:28.880 --> 01:35:32.520
<v Speaker 3>And since they can track every phone call, every email,

1441
01:35:32.840 --> 01:35:36.640
<v Speaker 3>IP address, all of that, Now you're not anonymous.

1442
01:35:36.800 --> 01:35:41.039
<v Speaker 6>I don't care if you think anonymous, you're not. Absolutely not.

1443
01:35:43.479 --> 01:35:45.520
<v Speaker 3>And of course things are going to stay status quo

1444
01:35:45.600 --> 01:35:50.960
<v Speaker 3>with these facilities because there is no incentive for anyone

1445
01:35:51.039 --> 01:35:55.279
<v Speaker 3>to report. And if you report, kind of like if

1446
01:35:55.279 --> 01:35:59.600
<v Speaker 3>you use the VAR system to report a vaccine injury.

1447
01:36:01.920 --> 01:36:03.479
<v Speaker 6>What's going to come of that? Nothing?

1448
01:36:03.560 --> 01:36:06.520
<v Speaker 3>Are they going to pull that vaccine off of the shelf. No,

1449
01:36:06.600 --> 01:36:12.800
<v Speaker 3>they're not, absolutely not. So anyways, if in effective. Yeah,

1450
01:36:14.039 --> 01:36:19.079
<v Speaker 3>so the illegal drug studies that they did are unethically,

1451
01:36:19.079 --> 01:36:22.399
<v Speaker 3>they should say drug studies that they did were from

1452
01:36:22.520 --> 01:36:26.520
<v Speaker 3>this nineteen seventy all the way through the eighties. So

1453
01:36:26.680 --> 01:36:30.359
<v Speaker 3>that's a really long time that they were experimenting and

1454
01:36:30.399 --> 01:36:33.760
<v Speaker 3>the government knew it and they're documenting all this stuff

1455
01:36:33.800 --> 01:36:39.319
<v Speaker 3>going oh that USh. Yeah, Look, we were mixing the

1456
01:36:39.720 --> 01:36:44.039
<v Speaker 3>mixing these drugs that we didn't get consent for into

1457
01:36:44.079 --> 01:36:49.119
<v Speaker 3>their ice cream and their you know bedtimes thing they eat, right,

1458
01:36:49.840 --> 01:36:53.239
<v Speaker 3>and so you know that happened for a really long time,

1459
01:36:53.279 --> 01:36:56.600
<v Speaker 3>and then they were like, Okay, well, I guess actor,

1460
01:36:56.760 --> 01:37:01.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, almost twenty years of studies, I guess we're done.

1461
01:37:01.840 --> 01:37:09.199
<v Speaker 6>Here, and they would move another place. So, going back.

1462
01:37:08.960 --> 01:37:18.600
<v Speaker 3>To the famous cases and people that were at nursing homes,

1463
01:37:19.159 --> 01:37:24.560
<v Speaker 3>you had some murderers and so Amy Archer Gilligan was

1464
01:37:24.640 --> 01:37:31.199
<v Speaker 3>a poisoner and owner of a nursing home and so

1465
01:37:31.359 --> 01:37:35.079
<v Speaker 3>she ran a home in Connecticut in the early nineteen hundreds,

1466
01:37:35.119 --> 01:37:41.159
<v Speaker 3>and she would poison residents, including her own husband, to

1467
01:37:41.279 --> 01:37:45.720
<v Speaker 3>collect their life insurance policies. But there was a little

1468
01:37:45.720 --> 01:37:51.600
<v Speaker 3>fraud going on there, I'd say, And so she had

1469
01:37:51.640 --> 01:37:59.039
<v Speaker 3>at least five confirmed victims, but authorities actually estimated dozens more.

1470
01:37:59.079 --> 01:38:03.399
<v Speaker 3>There's also a special that I watched about her as well.

1471
01:38:06.119 --> 01:38:10.239
<v Speaker 3>Another guy called Frederick Moore's and he was a nursing

1472
01:38:10.279 --> 01:38:14.399
<v Speaker 3>home serial killer. We could have covered him on a

1473
01:38:14.439 --> 01:38:21.880
<v Speaker 3>serial killer episode. So nineteen fourteen to nineteen fifteen, he

1474
01:38:22.039 --> 01:38:27.159
<v Speaker 3>was a nursing home employee and he deliberately poisoned at

1475
01:38:27.279 --> 01:38:33.119
<v Speaker 3>least eight elderly residents. Freely admitted to the killings and

1476
01:38:33.319 --> 01:38:38.760
<v Speaker 3>was later arrested and committed to the asylum. So I

1477
01:38:38.800 --> 01:38:42.119
<v Speaker 3>guess that didn't work out well for him because he

1478
01:38:42.199 --> 01:38:44.399
<v Speaker 3>went to the asylum and then he never got out.

1479
01:38:47.479 --> 01:38:50.359
<v Speaker 6>So so dude, and.

1480
01:38:50.359 --> 01:38:53.920
<v Speaker 4>Did it scientifically too? Yeah, I like that one hundred

1481
01:38:53.960 --> 01:38:57.840
<v Speaker 4>percentes this heading and he did it scientifically.

1482
01:38:57.920 --> 01:38:59.560
<v Speaker 6>I'm like, killed eight in home.

1483
01:39:00.760 --> 01:39:04.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what why are you bragging about that? That's weird.

1484
01:39:05.800 --> 01:39:09.479
<v Speaker 6>Oh he went to Bellevue. Oh good First, a bad day,

1485
01:39:10.039 --> 01:39:12.279
<v Speaker 6>bad day, bad day for you.

1486
01:39:12.399 --> 01:39:15.960
<v Speaker 3>Dude. You're gotta have a life in the crazy house.

1487
01:39:16.000 --> 01:39:20.239
<v Speaker 3>And with the torture and all the things, was it

1488
01:39:20.319 --> 01:39:20.760
<v Speaker 3>worth it?

1489
01:39:21.560 --> 01:39:21.760
<v Speaker 4>Not?

1490
01:39:21.800 --> 01:39:24.680
<v Speaker 6>Gonna know? Not, Just want to know? Okay.

1491
01:39:24.720 --> 01:39:30.439
<v Speaker 3>So the the Bulgaria case, this happened to twenty twenty

1492
01:39:30.479 --> 01:39:34.920
<v Speaker 3>five as well. It was called the House of Horrors,

1493
01:39:35.319 --> 01:39:39.960
<v Speaker 3>and so this is where they tied, drugged and locked

1494
01:39:40.119 --> 01:39:47.560
<v Speaker 3>residents and homes. These were in two illegal facilities and

1495
01:39:47.640 --> 01:39:53.399
<v Speaker 3>a village called Yagoda, and they were tied up, sedated

1496
01:39:53.560 --> 01:39:58.000
<v Speaker 3>or drug held for years without contact with the outside

1497
01:39:58.039 --> 01:40:06.199
<v Speaker 3>world and an extre unsanitary, degrading conditions. And several staff

1498
01:40:06.199 --> 01:40:13.600
<v Speaker 3>were actually arrested on charges inclusing unlawful imprisonment. So they

1499
01:40:13.600 --> 01:40:17.199
<v Speaker 3>were kidnapping people and holding them against their.

1500
01:40:17.199 --> 01:40:24.520
<v Speaker 6>Will, also for violence and neglect and so, uh, that

1501
01:40:24.720 --> 01:40:28.039
<v Speaker 6>was last year. That was still going on.

1502
01:40:29.520 --> 01:40:32.359
<v Speaker 3>So the other ones, the earlier ones were shut down,

1503
01:40:32.640 --> 01:40:37.000
<v Speaker 3>and these were they're like, my bad, let's do it

1504
01:40:37.039 --> 01:40:37.479
<v Speaker 3>again the.

1505
01:40:37.439 --> 01:40:38.680
<v Speaker 4>Government, let's replace it.

1506
01:40:40.840 --> 01:40:46.800
<v Speaker 6>So good for them, I guess. And so there were

1507
01:40:46.840 --> 01:40:54.760
<v Speaker 6>some other doozies throughout history. I got, I did. Okay,

1508
01:40:54.800 --> 01:40:55.279
<v Speaker 6>here we go.

1509
01:40:56.239 --> 01:41:01.760
<v Speaker 3>Anthony Joyner in nineteen eighty three in Pennsylvania. Although a

1510
01:41:01.880 --> 01:41:08.239
<v Speaker 3>little tad less famous, this caregiver raped and murdered at

1511
01:41:08.319 --> 01:41:13.399
<v Speaker 3>least six elderly women at a nursing home and was

1512
01:41:13.560 --> 01:41:17.880
<v Speaker 3>suspected in up to eighteen deaths of elderly residents.

1513
01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:19.479
<v Speaker 6>So isn't that nice of him?

1514
01:41:19.640 --> 01:41:20.239
<v Speaker 4>Gross?

1515
01:41:20.399 --> 01:41:22.760
<v Speaker 6>He gave him a boinkin and a poinkin.

1516
01:41:23.720 --> 01:41:25.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm pretty bad. Yeah.

1517
01:41:26.439 --> 01:41:29.720
<v Speaker 6>And so the next one, this.

1518
01:41:29.800 --> 01:41:32.319
<v Speaker 4>Guy, I have to say, I think this is Alistair

1519
01:41:32.359 --> 01:41:33.000
<v Speaker 4>Crowley's son.

1520
01:41:33.760 --> 01:41:39.279
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm gonna say this hits home because this is

1521
01:41:39.319 --> 01:41:42.800
<v Speaker 3>my home state of Indiana, and I was there when

1522
01:41:42.840 --> 01:41:43.720
<v Speaker 3>this was going on.

1523
01:41:44.560 --> 01:41:46.359
<v Speaker 4>He lost just like Alister Crowley.

1524
01:41:46.640 --> 01:41:52.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's very creepy and he's anytime I saw him,

1525
01:41:52.079 --> 01:41:56.000
<v Speaker 3>like on the news or whatever. Still like it gives

1526
01:41:56.039 --> 01:41:58.640
<v Speaker 3>me the willies and the hair on the back of

1527
01:41:58.640 --> 01:42:01.159
<v Speaker 3>my neck. Stands up, zeb push.

1528
01:42:01.319 --> 01:42:02.760
<v Speaker 4>Your brother is here.

1529
01:42:05.720 --> 01:42:09.880
<v Speaker 3>So this guy's name is Orville Lynn Majors. And so

1530
01:42:10.039 --> 01:42:13.199
<v Speaker 3>for two years, from nineteen ninety three to nineteen ninety

1531
01:42:13.239 --> 01:42:18.239
<v Speaker 3>five in Indiana, he was an lpn SO, a licensed

1532
01:42:18.239 --> 01:42:24.640
<v Speaker 3>practical nurse, and he was convicted convicted of killing six patients,

1533
01:42:25.479 --> 01:42:30.880
<v Speaker 3>but it is estimated that he killed one hundred to

1534
01:42:30.960 --> 01:42:34.680
<v Speaker 3>one hundred and thirty, but they didn't have enough proof

1535
01:42:34.760 --> 01:42:37.840
<v Speaker 3>to bring charges on those cases, only the six.

1536
01:42:39.760 --> 01:42:40.439
<v Speaker 6>Huge deal.

1537
01:42:40.600 --> 01:42:48.319
<v Speaker 3>It was all over the news, and he told people, well,

1538
01:42:48.399 --> 01:42:52.479
<v Speaker 3>they let me back up a second. So they brought

1539
01:42:52.640 --> 01:42:57.520
<v Speaker 3>six charges against him. They actually focused on seven cases,

1540
01:42:59.319 --> 01:43:03.640
<v Speaker 3>but they couldn't prove the seventh one and that's why,

1541
01:43:03.920 --> 01:43:05.960
<v Speaker 3>like he was let off as well as the other

1542
01:43:06.199 --> 01:43:11.199
<v Speaker 3>one hundred to one hundred and thirty cases. But people

1543
01:43:11.239 --> 01:43:15.079
<v Speaker 3>that worked with him said that he would constantly tell

1544
01:43:15.119 --> 01:43:20.800
<v Speaker 3>them about his hatred for older people. He couldn't stand

1545
01:43:20.840 --> 01:43:21.520
<v Speaker 3>older people.

1546
01:43:21.680 --> 01:43:24.439
<v Speaker 4>What is wrong with you people? The old people are

1547
01:43:24.560 --> 01:43:25.680
<v Speaker 4>so sweet.

1548
01:43:26.199 --> 01:43:30.159
<v Speaker 3>So he would tell people that, and he would say

1549
01:43:30.199 --> 01:43:36.760
<v Speaker 3>that we should guess all elderly people. So he would

1550
01:43:36.760 --> 01:43:41.039
<v Speaker 3>be a perfect employee for the maid service, right because

1551
01:43:41.079 --> 01:43:43.800
<v Speaker 3>he doesn't like older people, and so he could just

1552
01:43:43.880 --> 01:43:46.439
<v Speaker 3>go around and euthanize anybody that's older.

1553
01:43:47.560 --> 01:43:49.600
<v Speaker 4>Yikes, crawly face.

1554
01:43:50.159 --> 01:43:53.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's he's a very creepy guy. He's always been

1555
01:43:53.439 --> 01:43:57.520
<v Speaker 3>a very creepy guy. And so anyway, that's that's the

1556
01:43:58.199 --> 01:44:05.560
<v Speaker 3>most famous documented cases that I could actually find. I'm

1557
01:44:05.600 --> 01:44:09.359
<v Speaker 3>sure there's plenty more, but they were the most interesting ones.

1558
01:44:10.199 --> 01:44:10.640
<v Speaker 6>And so.

1559
01:44:13.399 --> 01:44:21.239
<v Speaker 3>With the with all of the the bead staffing, the

1560
01:44:21.680 --> 01:44:27.560
<v Speaker 3>you know, the murders, the conditions, the literally no enforcement,

1561
01:44:27.720 --> 01:44:31.239
<v Speaker 3>all of that stuff, do you think any of this

1562
01:44:31.600 --> 01:44:35.760
<v Speaker 3>is ever going to get better? And if if we're

1563
01:44:35.800 --> 01:44:38.199
<v Speaker 3>going to make it better, how do we make it better?

1564
01:44:40.640 --> 01:44:44.680
<v Speaker 4>I don't think that there's any possible way that we

1565
01:44:45.199 --> 01:44:51.399
<v Speaker 4>can change things without love. Now does that mean people

1566
01:44:51.479 --> 01:44:55.359
<v Speaker 4>that don't have a family don't get good care? I

1567
01:44:55.439 --> 01:44:57.520
<v Speaker 4>don't think they'll have as good of care as people

1568
01:44:57.520 --> 01:44:58.159
<v Speaker 4>that have family.

1569
01:44:58.239 --> 01:45:00.920
<v Speaker 6>They love them like it's just a fact.

1570
01:45:01.000 --> 01:45:02.720
<v Speaker 4>And if you're willing to pay a whole bunch of

1571
01:45:02.720 --> 01:45:07.079
<v Speaker 4>money to somebody else, you know, why not keep that

1572
01:45:07.199 --> 01:45:10.880
<v Speaker 4>money and hire somebody or I'm not saying you have

1573
01:45:10.960 --> 01:45:13.640
<v Speaker 4>to live with the person. And memory care units are

1574
01:45:13.680 --> 01:45:17.439
<v Speaker 4>a different situation because we're talking about people that are

1575
01:45:17.439 --> 01:45:20.319
<v Speaker 4>going to hurt themselves if they're left, you know, on

1576
01:45:20.399 --> 01:45:23.079
<v Speaker 4>supervis And there are some better ones, like my son

1577
01:45:23.119 --> 01:45:25.760
<v Speaker 4>told me about the one he's working at now. It's

1578
01:45:25.800 --> 01:45:28.319
<v Speaker 4>like an assisted living though and the memory care is

1579
01:45:28.319 --> 01:45:31.079
<v Speaker 4>a lockdown of course, but he said, you know what

1580
01:45:31.119 --> 01:45:34.439
<v Speaker 4>they did for Valentine's Day, mom, is they had people

1581
01:45:34.560 --> 01:45:37.560
<v Speaker 4>dress up like their loved ones from the past and

1582
01:45:37.720 --> 01:45:41.840
<v Speaker 4>read them letters on the video and played the video

1583
01:45:41.920 --> 01:45:43.920
<v Speaker 4>so it wouldn't upset them in real life, you know.

1584
01:45:44.359 --> 01:45:46.560
<v Speaker 4>And I guess they give them babies and they're like

1585
01:45:46.600 --> 01:45:49.840
<v Speaker 4>baby dolls and dog fake dogs, and like they try.

1586
01:45:49.960 --> 01:45:53.039
<v Speaker 4>They really he said, they're really cute there, and I

1587
01:45:53.119 --> 01:45:55.840
<v Speaker 4>thought that was really sweet. I mean, there are things

1588
01:45:55.880 --> 01:45:59.279
<v Speaker 4>that I understand, like if somebody's in a coma and

1589
01:45:59.319 --> 01:46:01.760
<v Speaker 4>they're not way up and you pulled the plug and

1590
01:46:01.800 --> 01:46:03.840
<v Speaker 4>they're not gonna die, and what do you do with that?

1591
01:46:04.000 --> 01:46:06.560
<v Speaker 4>Like I know, like I get it. There are some

1592
01:46:06.640 --> 01:46:10.439
<v Speaker 4>instances or maybe you don't have the ability, like you

1593
01:46:10.479 --> 01:46:12.800
<v Speaker 4>don't know how to or the patients.

1594
01:46:13.439 --> 01:46:15.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, and that would be for.

1595
01:46:17.920 --> 01:46:21.159
<v Speaker 3>People that are like on a lock unit, because I

1596
01:46:21.159 --> 01:46:24.960
<v Speaker 3>I had to do a lot with the Alzheimer's lockdown

1597
01:46:25.039 --> 01:46:28.159
<v Speaker 3>unit because we had a lot of patient with sundowners

1598
01:46:29.319 --> 01:46:30.079
<v Speaker 3>and they get.

1599
01:46:30.119 --> 01:46:31.880
<v Speaker 6>Oohber violent and.

1600
01:46:34.119 --> 01:46:38.600
<v Speaker 3>Violent, violent like trying to murder other residents and.

1601
01:46:40.479 --> 01:46:43.520
<v Speaker 6>Fighting and like yeah, and.

1602
01:46:43.760 --> 01:46:48.680
<v Speaker 3>They're you know, they're they're fight or flight hormones take

1603
01:46:48.720 --> 01:46:52.319
<v Speaker 3>over and they can whoop some ass.

1604
01:46:52.359 --> 01:46:56.520
<v Speaker 4>Oh they're crazy strong, they'll escape. Like I had a

1605
01:46:56.640 --> 01:46:59.680
<v Speaker 4>patient escape once out of the memory care unit, musted

1606
01:46:59.720 --> 01:47:03.800
<v Speaker 4>a unliftable window that was I don't even know he

1607
01:47:03.920 --> 01:47:07.560
<v Speaker 4>was gone. I'm like, it's crazy and he made it far,

1608
01:47:08.079 --> 01:47:11.119
<v Speaker 4>Like yeah, thank Heavens, we do good checks because we

1609
01:47:11.279 --> 01:47:13.880
<v Speaker 4>caught everything. But we caught him, but he was clear

1610
01:47:13.880 --> 01:47:16.960
<v Speaker 4>to the freeway. It was only gone like fifteen minutes.

1611
01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:21.119
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, Ernie, did you sprint? Like what is happening?

1612
01:47:21.279 --> 01:47:21.960
<v Speaker 4>That's not no.

1613
01:47:22.119 --> 01:47:28.439
<v Speaker 3>I could understand patients like that where family members cannot

1614
01:47:28.479 --> 01:47:31.399
<v Speaker 3>take care of them, like they have younger kids and whatever,

1615
01:47:31.479 --> 01:47:37.720
<v Speaker 3>and the safety issue is a thing, But if you

1616
01:47:37.880 --> 01:47:41.640
<v Speaker 3>just have somebody that's older they've had a stroke or whatever,

1617
01:47:43.359 --> 01:47:46.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't understand why you can't step up well.

1618
01:47:46.840 --> 01:47:51.600
<v Speaker 4>And honestly, if you feel like you're not enough to

1619
01:47:51.640 --> 01:47:54.600
<v Speaker 4>take care of them, you might want to watch this

1620
01:47:54.720 --> 01:47:57.239
<v Speaker 4>again and see how many more minutes they're gonna get

1621
01:47:57.239 --> 01:48:00.920
<v Speaker 4>with somebody they love versus even if you are not

1622
01:48:01.079 --> 01:48:04.640
<v Speaker 4>able to give your undivided attention, they're not going to

1623
01:48:04.680 --> 01:48:05.439
<v Speaker 4>get it anyway.

1624
01:48:05.960 --> 01:48:09.880
<v Speaker 6>M hm. Oh, yeah, they will be because they won't.

1625
01:48:09.600 --> 01:48:13.359
<v Speaker 3>Get any attention and except maybe you know, once or

1626
01:48:13.399 --> 01:48:17.560
<v Speaker 3>trice a week, and that's it, because they do they

1627
01:48:18.279 --> 01:48:21.880
<v Speaker 3>starve them and stuff like that. And some of it

1628
01:48:21.920 --> 01:48:25.680
<v Speaker 3>is it intentional, absolutely, but a lot of it is

1629
01:48:25.760 --> 01:48:32.640
<v Speaker 3>not intentional. It's just because they literally cannot care for people.

1630
01:48:33.000 --> 01:48:36.640
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, for that way, on a whole, with one or

1631
01:48:36.640 --> 01:48:38.039
<v Speaker 6>two staff members.

1632
01:48:38.399 --> 01:48:43.000
<v Speaker 4>I think that you could make room in your life,

1633
01:48:43.479 --> 01:48:47.319
<v Speaker 4>especially if they're bedbound, right like, oh, but I can't

1634
01:48:47.399 --> 01:48:51.039
<v Speaker 4>change their diaper so frequently or trust me, it's probably

1635
01:48:51.079 --> 01:48:53.880
<v Speaker 4>going to be more frequently than you might think they

1636
01:48:53.880 --> 01:48:56.680
<v Speaker 4>will get otherwise, because I'm telling you, unless it's short

1637
01:48:56.760 --> 01:49:01.840
<v Speaker 4>term for rehab, if it's long term care, they're they're

1638
01:49:01.840 --> 01:49:05.600
<v Speaker 4>going to do their best. But the shortages and everything

1639
01:49:05.600 --> 01:49:08.760
<v Speaker 4>we've just explained, you're probably gonna do a better job

1640
01:49:08.760 --> 01:49:12.560
<v Speaker 4>than you think. So, and you love that person, hopefully

1641
01:49:13.079 --> 01:49:16.600
<v Speaker 4>you know you might not love who they are right then,

1642
01:49:17.199 --> 01:49:20.399
<v Speaker 4>but you need to remember things like my grandpa would

1643
01:49:20.399 --> 01:49:23.399
<v Speaker 4>always tell me because when my grandma aged, she didn't

1644
01:49:23.439 --> 01:49:25.960
<v Speaker 4>age as good as my grandpa. And I would say,

1645
01:49:26.279 --> 01:49:28.279
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know, you know what she looked like until

1646
01:49:28.319 --> 01:49:30.159
<v Speaker 4>later and I seen an old picture and I was like, oh,

1647
01:49:30.159 --> 01:49:33.119
<v Speaker 4>I get it. I would say, well, you know, do

1648
01:49:33.159 --> 01:49:36.279
<v Speaker 4>you still love grandma like that? You know you still romantic?

1649
01:49:36.319 --> 01:49:38.439
<v Speaker 4>And he said, when I see your grandma, I see

1650
01:49:38.439 --> 01:49:41.960
<v Speaker 4>the girl that I met when I met her, And

1651
01:49:42.039 --> 01:49:44.479
<v Speaker 4>so it didn't matter to him, And that's where it

1652
01:49:44.479 --> 01:49:47.039
<v Speaker 4>should be for us. If they get mean because they

1653
01:49:47.039 --> 01:49:51.319
<v Speaker 4>have a disease or whatever, and they're not like crazy

1654
01:49:51.359 --> 01:49:53.319
<v Speaker 4>trying to kill everybody, but just like a little fussy

1655
01:49:53.920 --> 01:49:59.119
<v Speaker 4>fussy right, okay, but there is everything hurt. They want

1656
01:49:59.119 --> 01:50:04.560
<v Speaker 4>to thank your plan, right, and everything hurts, and like nowadays,

1657
01:50:04.600 --> 01:50:07.760
<v Speaker 4>like yeah, we talk about a lot of opioid addicts

1658
01:50:07.800 --> 01:50:10.880
<v Speaker 4>and opioid overdoses. I'm going to tell you people something.

1659
01:50:11.319 --> 01:50:15.000
<v Speaker 4>When you're old like that and everything hurts, I pray

1660
01:50:15.079 --> 01:50:18.560
<v Speaker 4>they're treating them for their pain. That is different. And

1661
01:50:18.720 --> 01:50:21.439
<v Speaker 4>if they have to take pain pills every six hours

1662
01:50:21.439 --> 01:50:24.920
<v Speaker 4>for the rest of their life, good, Like I don't

1663
01:50:24.960 --> 01:50:29.319
<v Speaker 4>care unless they are sedated, unsafe whatever all that is.

1664
01:50:29.399 --> 01:50:32.399
<v Speaker 4>But like if that helps them live a better life,

1665
01:50:33.000 --> 01:50:35.600
<v Speaker 4>to not be knocked out, not be you know, out

1666
01:50:35.600 --> 01:50:37.760
<v Speaker 4>of it, be able to do things because they can't

1667
01:50:37.840 --> 01:50:42.439
<v Speaker 4>move without like wanting to die daily. Like you know,

1668
01:50:42.560 --> 01:50:44.920
<v Speaker 4>you've got away these things because some people will come

1669
01:50:44.920 --> 01:50:46.840
<v Speaker 4>in and be like, oh, cut my grandma off all

1670
01:50:46.880 --> 01:50:49.119
<v Speaker 4>of her pills. And I'm like, like back in the

1671
01:50:49.159 --> 01:50:51.279
<v Speaker 4>day when Darvis that was the thing, I'm like, it's

1672
01:50:51.319 --> 01:50:53.359
<v Speaker 4>like two Darvas at a day. Man, that's like a

1673
01:50:53.439 --> 01:50:56.000
<v Speaker 4>tile and all with a bump, Like it isn't anything,

1674
01:50:56.279 --> 01:51:00.720
<v Speaker 4>you know, And I just thought, why, like you have

1675
01:51:00.840 --> 01:51:03.079
<v Speaker 4>some stigma against it, like you haven't seen or tried

1676
01:51:03.119 --> 01:51:05.640
<v Speaker 4>to go to the bathroom. It's really sad.

1677
01:51:05.760 --> 01:51:09.079
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's that's the thing that a lot of caregivers

1678
01:51:09.159 --> 01:51:12.800
<v Speaker 3>don't understand, or a lot of family members, i should say,

1679
01:51:12.840 --> 01:51:17.800
<v Speaker 3>don't understand unless you are that person's caregiver. You don't

1680
01:51:17.960 --> 01:51:23.560
<v Speaker 3>see their struggle and they're decline in their health like

1681
01:51:24.199 --> 01:51:24.880
<v Speaker 3>all the time.

1682
01:51:25.520 --> 01:51:27.840
<v Speaker 4>You know, well, they're gonna hide it. Yeah, they're happy

1683
01:51:27.880 --> 01:51:31.600
<v Speaker 4>you're there. They're probably gottendorphins going because you're there. But

1684
01:51:31.720 --> 01:51:34.720
<v Speaker 4>like they're not moving and trying to go do things

1685
01:51:35.039 --> 01:51:37.960
<v Speaker 4>or whatever. So if you want them to stay mobile.

1686
01:51:38.039 --> 01:51:42.319
<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying gork everybody like, that's not it. There's

1687
01:51:42.439 --> 01:51:43.840
<v Speaker 4>this fine line.

1688
01:51:44.600 --> 01:51:47.880
<v Speaker 6>You get drugs, right, it's either regarded.

1689
01:51:48.640 --> 01:51:51.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're retarded and they like drug everybody to the

1690
01:51:51.880 --> 01:51:55.760
<v Speaker 4>point of Gorkville or nobody can have anything. Ever, Okay,

1691
01:51:55.880 --> 01:52:01.600
<v Speaker 4>let's use our brains. Well, let's balance things out and say, yeah,

1692
01:52:01.760 --> 01:52:04.720
<v Speaker 4>Jesse can have this many things because Jesse has a

1693
01:52:04.800 --> 01:52:07.279
<v Speaker 4>high tolerance and he's been taking these for years and

1694
01:52:07.319 --> 01:52:09.920
<v Speaker 4>he needs this amount. But Betty down the road here,

1695
01:52:10.239 --> 01:52:12.840
<v Speaker 4>she only gets like half a pill because she gets

1696
01:52:12.880 --> 01:52:15.880
<v Speaker 4>crazy if not. So, like, you've got to figure that out,

1697
01:52:16.199 --> 01:52:20.119
<v Speaker 4>you really do. And the big things are sleep. Old

1698
01:52:20.119 --> 01:52:22.000
<v Speaker 4>people don't go to sleep. I don't know why, but

1699
01:52:22.079 --> 01:52:25.199
<v Speaker 4>they don't. They don't sleep good. I mean pain for one.

1700
01:52:25.239 --> 01:52:27.000
<v Speaker 4>If you're in pain all night, you're not going to sleep.

1701
01:52:27.359 --> 01:52:30.640
<v Speaker 6>But yeah, it's a myth.

1702
01:52:30.720 --> 01:52:36.720
<v Speaker 3>You you actually don't require as much sleep, right, Yeah.

1703
01:52:36.159 --> 01:52:39.359
<v Speaker 4>So these people are awake hurting, could you imagine? I mean,

1704
01:52:39.439 --> 01:52:41.479
<v Speaker 4>I guess because I've had a lot of pain issues.

1705
01:52:41.520 --> 01:52:44.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, be sensitive to the fact that somebody might

1706
01:52:44.840 --> 01:52:49.359
<v Speaker 4>be trapped inside a body that is just excruciating, and

1707
01:52:49.399 --> 01:52:52.199
<v Speaker 4>maybe they really want to do things like, and they're

1708
01:52:52.239 --> 01:52:54.880
<v Speaker 4>on that brink of like I can take a pain

1709
01:52:54.920 --> 01:52:57.039
<v Speaker 4>pill and do things, or I cannot take a pain

1710
01:52:57.079 --> 01:52:59.640
<v Speaker 4>pill and I can't do anything. Let them have it

1711
01:53:00.000 --> 01:53:03.600
<v Speaker 4>because the longer they stay active, the better. I'm not

1712
01:53:03.600 --> 01:53:09.680
<v Speaker 4>saying that's for everybody. I'm saying for this instant.

1713
01:53:06.760 --> 01:53:11.520
<v Speaker 6>Act is yeah, definitely important.

1714
01:53:11.560 --> 01:53:13.840
<v Speaker 3>And that's why a lot of these people when they

1715
01:53:13.840 --> 01:53:17.680
<v Speaker 3>get put in a facility like this and they're forced

1716
01:53:17.720 --> 01:53:21.319
<v Speaker 3>to lay down twenty four hours a day, or you

1717
01:53:21.640 --> 01:53:25.039
<v Speaker 3>have a couple hours where you literally sit in the

1718
01:53:25.039 --> 01:53:28.279
<v Speaker 3>hallway in a wheelchair for six hours or whatever, screaming

1719
01:53:28.319 --> 01:53:35.479
<v Speaker 3>for help. That and no mobility, and they can't. They

1720
01:53:35.560 --> 01:53:38.920
<v Speaker 3>don't exercise, they don't do anything with them, and so

1721
01:53:39.039 --> 01:53:42.079
<v Speaker 3>they're either laying flat or sitting on their butt literally

1722
01:53:42.239 --> 01:53:47.199
<v Speaker 3>all day long, every single day. You have muscle wasting,

1723
01:53:47.319 --> 01:53:50.760
<v Speaker 3>and you will die faster because your joints will seize

1724
01:53:50.840 --> 01:53:53.880
<v Speaker 3>up and the whole nine yards well depression.

1725
01:53:53.960 --> 01:53:58.279
<v Speaker 4>For Fox's sake, Look, you better put yourself in your family.

1726
01:53:58.359 --> 01:54:01.079
<v Speaker 4>If you don't have the gum to take care of it,

1727
01:54:01.520 --> 01:54:03.960
<v Speaker 4>you better treat that person like you want to be treated.

1728
01:54:03.960 --> 01:54:07.159
<v Speaker 4>Because karma is a nasty bitch and I don't care.

1729
01:54:07.720 --> 01:54:09.720
<v Speaker 4>Age comes for all of us because, like my dad

1730
01:54:09.800 --> 01:54:11.760
<v Speaker 4>used to say, when I would complain about getting older,

1731
01:54:11.760 --> 01:54:14.239
<v Speaker 4>he'd say, beats the hell out of the alternative, hay kid,

1732
01:54:14.800 --> 01:54:17.399
<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, right, because it's death, right, like you

1733
01:54:17.439 --> 01:54:21.279
<v Speaker 4>either live or you don't, and so like you only

1734
01:54:21.279 --> 01:54:24.600
<v Speaker 4>got two options. But you better remember this because every

1735
01:54:24.720 --> 01:54:27.359
<v Speaker 4>one of you, whether you age and do it or

1736
01:54:27.399 --> 01:54:31.520
<v Speaker 4>whether you have some accident or this will be repaid

1737
01:54:31.600 --> 01:54:33.560
<v Speaker 4>upon your head, I promise you.

1738
01:54:35.359 --> 01:54:40.520
<v Speaker 3>And I'm gonna says going to be Heidi, because on

1739
01:54:40.640 --> 01:54:42.439
<v Speaker 3>the older.

1740
01:54:44.199 --> 01:54:46.159
<v Speaker 4>We're going to hang out together and cause all kinds

1741
01:54:46.159 --> 01:54:48.279
<v Speaker 4>of chaos. That's what we're gonna do, right.

1742
01:54:50.039 --> 01:54:55.239
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, We'll have a joining adjoining fleets in our greenhouse.

1743
01:54:56.039 --> 01:54:57.960
<v Speaker 4>She knows I'm a bitch, and I'll take care of it.

1744
01:54:58.000 --> 01:55:01.199
<v Speaker 4>That's what's up. My husband knows. If his steak isn't right,

1745
01:55:01.399 --> 01:55:05.399
<v Speaker 4>I will do it nicely, but only twice. Then the

1746
01:55:05.520 --> 01:55:08.880
<v Speaker 4>nice is not the same. So you know, I feel

1747
01:55:08.920 --> 01:55:11.520
<v Speaker 4>that's fair. I feel that's fair. If I say it

1748
01:55:11.680 --> 01:55:15.359
<v Speaker 4>very nicely and very calmly two times is what you get.

1749
01:55:15.479 --> 01:55:18.159
<v Speaker 3>Then it's on a sliding scale after that, and I

1750
01:55:18.199 --> 01:55:22.520
<v Speaker 3>have no I have no control over.

1751
01:55:22.560 --> 01:55:24.720
<v Speaker 6>How that's scale slides.

1752
01:55:24.600 --> 01:55:28.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly, but you do have to remember this. I

1753
01:55:28.640 --> 01:55:30.720
<v Speaker 4>think this is such an important thing for you know,

1754
01:55:30.760 --> 01:55:34.079
<v Speaker 4>if you look to the Asian population, they are busy.

1755
01:55:34.279 --> 01:55:37.600
<v Speaker 4>They are mandated to be very busy people. They're some

1756
01:55:37.680 --> 01:55:39.439
<v Speaker 4>of the busiest people out there. If you go to

1757
01:55:39.479 --> 01:55:43.640
<v Speaker 4>these other countries, they take care of their old people. Well,

1758
01:55:43.680 --> 01:55:46.239
<v Speaker 4>the old people are out picking rice at ninety seven

1759
01:55:46.319 --> 01:55:47.600
<v Speaker 4>because they take care of them.

1760
01:55:47.960 --> 01:55:53.239
<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say, Asian people and generally Hispanic people

1761
01:55:54.399 --> 01:55:56.720
<v Speaker 3>sometimes they take care of their family and culture too,

1762
01:55:56.880 --> 01:56:02.199
<v Speaker 3>where they will literally have generations living together under the

1763
01:56:02.279 --> 01:56:02.920
<v Speaker 3>same growth.

1764
01:56:02.960 --> 01:56:06.560
<v Speaker 4>And that is how many Asians did you ever take

1765
01:56:06.600 --> 01:56:07.920
<v Speaker 4>care of a nursing home standate?

1766
01:56:08.600 --> 01:56:08.880
<v Speaker 6>Never?

1767
01:56:09.319 --> 01:56:13.560
<v Speaker 4>No, I had maybe two in the whole facility. And

1768
01:56:14.359 --> 01:56:15.560
<v Speaker 4>black people are better about it.

1769
01:56:15.600 --> 01:56:18.039
<v Speaker 3>Also, by the way, I was gonna say, most of

1770
01:56:18.079 --> 01:56:22.760
<v Speaker 3>the patients were white and they were white women. There

1771
01:56:22.760 --> 01:56:25.119
<v Speaker 3>were some men, but for the most part it was

1772
01:56:25.159 --> 01:56:27.159
<v Speaker 3>females and it was always white people.

1773
01:56:27.399 --> 01:56:31.039
<v Speaker 4>The men were the mean sundowning like they couldn't do

1774
01:56:31.119 --> 01:56:33.319
<v Speaker 4>any They're like, ah, what do we do? Or they're

1775
01:56:33.359 --> 01:56:36.319
<v Speaker 4>like medical necessary, like oh he needs oxygen and dah

1776
01:56:36.399 --> 01:56:39.399
<v Speaker 4>dah da da dah maybe people didn't feel competent, you know,

1777
01:56:39.600 --> 01:56:43.760
<v Speaker 4>to deal with that or whatever. But yeah, it's just sad.

1778
01:56:43.880 --> 01:56:47.800
<v Speaker 4>It's or the or they're really rich, old white guys

1779
01:56:47.840 --> 01:56:51.079
<v Speaker 4>that have had twenty seven divorces and they're just dicks,

1780
01:56:51.239 --> 01:56:54.800
<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, and nobody can no, you can't do

1781
01:56:54.880 --> 01:56:57.960
<v Speaker 4>it right enough. And so maybe I understand that one.

1782
01:56:58.159 --> 01:56:59.960
<v Speaker 4>Like I couldn't handle that all day long.

1783
01:57:02.079 --> 01:57:05.039
<v Speaker 6>Wives were like, hell, no, you're not staying with me.

1784
01:57:05.880 --> 01:57:08.279
<v Speaker 4>Just hire somebody, you know, let him have his one

1785
01:57:08.279 --> 01:57:10.119
<v Speaker 4>on one because he's not going to be nice anyway.

1786
01:57:10.199 --> 01:57:13.920
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, and and somebody like that, it doesn't matter,

1787
01:57:14.239 --> 01:57:18.479
<v Speaker 3>Like even if you do, there's no right there's there's

1788
01:57:18.520 --> 01:57:21.319
<v Speaker 3>never anybody that would that would fit the bill.

1789
01:57:21.800 --> 01:57:24.279
<v Speaker 4>It's never good enough. And you can tell that guy.

1790
01:57:24.439 --> 01:57:26.359
<v Speaker 4>I would always ask them, what did you used to

1791
01:57:26.399 --> 01:57:28.840
<v Speaker 4>do for a living? Well, I was a top level

1792
01:57:28.880 --> 01:57:33.119
<v Speaker 4>corporate executive. I'm like, yeah, yep, there it is, okay,

1793
01:57:33.279 --> 01:57:35.840
<v Speaker 4>got it. And if you are that person, I get it,

1794
01:57:35.880 --> 01:57:37.399
<v Speaker 4>but like, don't be a dick to your nurse.

1795
01:57:38.640 --> 01:57:42.279
<v Speaker 3>Well, and I've had a lot of patience like that

1796
01:57:42.279 --> 01:57:48.279
<v Speaker 3>that just cannot seem to have a humanity side to them.

1797
01:57:48.720 --> 01:57:53.680
<v Speaker 4>They're reptilians. That's why at all. I'm just kidding. Well,

1798
01:57:53.760 --> 01:58:00.880
<v Speaker 4>they maybe they're homunculous people. I don't know. Do you

1799
01:58:00.920 --> 01:58:03.359
<v Speaker 4>know what my daughter told me yesterday? Off topic, but

1800
01:58:03.439 --> 01:58:05.760
<v Speaker 4>I just wanted to share this. It was kind of wild,

1801
01:58:06.159 --> 01:58:08.680
<v Speaker 4>and maybe we should do our next series because I

1802
01:58:08.720 --> 01:58:11.439
<v Speaker 4>know we're coming close, right, wasn't this our last? In

1803
01:58:11.520 --> 01:58:11.880
<v Speaker 4>this one?

1804
01:58:12.039 --> 01:58:12.960
<v Speaker 6>We have one more?

1805
01:58:13.760 --> 01:58:18.039
<v Speaker 4>So what I think we should do on on transhumanism

1806
01:58:19.279 --> 01:58:23.359
<v Speaker 4>because I think this is fascinating. They told me last

1807
01:58:23.439 --> 01:58:27.000
<v Speaker 4>night that if you give birth now, even at home,

1808
01:58:27.279 --> 01:58:30.399
<v Speaker 4>if unless it's like some special holistic person, like if

1809
01:58:30.439 --> 01:58:34.399
<v Speaker 4>they're like a regular medical professional, they are now charging

1810
01:58:34.439 --> 01:58:37.359
<v Speaker 4>you two thousand dollars to keep your own fucking placenta.

1811
01:58:37.560 --> 01:58:45.359
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well that he doesn't surprise me because pluscential sale

1812
01:58:46.239 --> 01:58:52.359
<v Speaker 3>is a big, big money maker because they use that placenta.

1813
01:58:52.680 --> 01:58:56.279
<v Speaker 6>But they're not supposed to makeup.

1814
01:58:56.720 --> 01:59:00.319
<v Speaker 4>And they're supposed to incinerate that shit. So I'm like, oh, hey,

1815
01:59:00.560 --> 01:59:03.359
<v Speaker 4>you want your taking grand I'm coming with you to

1816
01:59:03.399 --> 01:59:08.119
<v Speaker 4>the incinerator. I want to watch the bitch right, and

1817
01:59:08.279 --> 01:59:11.199
<v Speaker 4>same thing with cirque skin, all that shit we've talked about,

1818
01:59:11.199 --> 01:59:14.439
<v Speaker 4>But transhumanism, I don't know if you saw it, Janet,

1819
01:59:14.560 --> 01:59:17.119
<v Speaker 4>because you know, I know you don't keep up with

1820
01:59:17.159 --> 01:59:21.560
<v Speaker 4>the Mormon crazies. But the Ebstein files mentioned something crazy

1821
01:59:21.680 --> 01:59:25.720
<v Speaker 4>about Mormons, and they mentioned about Mormon blood and they

1822
01:59:25.760 --> 01:59:29.920
<v Speaker 4>said he was like he was talking about, yeah, keep

1823
01:59:29.920 --> 01:59:32.039
<v Speaker 4>paying her tuition as long as you guarantee to send

1824
01:59:32.039 --> 01:59:35.479
<v Speaker 4>me that Mormon blood. And I'm a pint every week,

1825
01:59:35.960 --> 01:59:38.760
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, yeah, obviously for multiple people, Like

1826
01:59:38.880 --> 01:59:41.479
<v Speaker 4>somebody wrote in the thing, oh nobody could give it.

1827
01:59:41.520 --> 01:59:44.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, don't be stupid, no shit, Sherlock. We don't

1828
01:59:44.600 --> 01:59:47.399
<v Speaker 4>know how many people are involved in this little ring here. Okay,

1829
01:59:47.439 --> 01:59:49.960
<v Speaker 4>if it's true. If it's true, I don't know. Somebody

1830
01:59:50.000 --> 01:59:52.039
<v Speaker 4>said you better start proving facts. I'm like, how the

1831
01:59:52.039 --> 01:59:54.000
<v Speaker 4>hell am I supposed to prove? Go talk to Epstein?

1832
01:59:54.039 --> 01:59:55.600
<v Speaker 4>Should I go do that? Because I don't know?

1833
01:59:56.239 --> 01:59:59.399
<v Speaker 6>And isn't that where they spotted him?

1834
01:59:59.439 --> 02:00:04.640
<v Speaker 4>And is her if it ain't him, Look, I'm telling

1835
02:00:04.680 --> 02:00:10.720
<v Speaker 4>you clones, cabbage babies. Uh, you know, the transhumanism like

1836
02:00:10.880 --> 02:00:15.760
<v Speaker 4>stem cell research, Dolly the Sheep, Howard Hughes Medical Institute

1837
02:00:15.760 --> 02:00:19.159
<v Speaker 4>being one hundred percent involved in the crisper technology, and

1838
02:00:19.359 --> 02:00:23.960
<v Speaker 4>guess who else was buying Mormon fucking blood. All I

1839
02:00:23.960 --> 02:00:26.359
<v Speaker 4>could think about when I read it was like, I

1840
02:00:26.399 --> 02:00:29.600
<v Speaker 4>only know a couple other creepy people that have been

1841
02:00:30.039 --> 02:00:32.279
<v Speaker 4>and I know a lot of people, right, well, this

1842
02:00:32.359 --> 02:00:35.319
<v Speaker 4>is not my real life. But yeah, like Howard Hughes

1843
02:00:35.600 --> 02:00:37.600
<v Speaker 4>was in with the Mormons, and I thought, I wonder

1844
02:00:37.640 --> 02:00:41.000
<v Speaker 4>if this little motherfucker, so I start typing Howard Hughes

1845
02:00:41.079 --> 02:00:45.159
<v Speaker 4>vampire shit goes wild. I'm like, are you serious? Howard

1846
02:00:45.199 --> 02:00:47.680
<v Speaker 4>Hughes was in the Epstein files, by the way, so

1847
02:00:47.880 --> 02:00:50.239
<v Speaker 4>was Howard Hugh's medical institute and all this stuff. I'm

1848
02:00:50.239 --> 02:00:53.439
<v Speaker 4>telling you guys about this crisper stuff. But there was

1849
02:00:53.560 --> 02:00:56.239
<v Speaker 4>all of these different wild studies that he was doing.

1850
02:00:56.279 --> 02:00:59.920
<v Speaker 4>But also he was buying I shit, you not, Janet

1851
02:01:00.520 --> 02:01:03.439
<v Speaker 4>Mormon blood. That made it more real for me. The

1852
02:01:03.479 --> 02:01:06.159
<v Speaker 4>first part. I was like, some bullshit here, this is

1853
02:01:06.199 --> 02:01:08.840
<v Speaker 4>some silly nonsense they I don't know what is this

1854
02:01:08.920 --> 02:01:11.359
<v Speaker 4>a joke? Like? Is this their code for some silly things?

1855
02:01:11.880 --> 02:01:14.239
<v Speaker 4>I don't know? And then I started reading that they

1856
02:01:14.279 --> 02:01:17.279
<v Speaker 4>were smuggling. They got in trouble for it. The doctors

1857
02:01:17.279 --> 02:01:22.119
<v Speaker 4>were reprimanded and against their licensure for transporting the blood

1858
02:01:22.199 --> 02:01:26.079
<v Speaker 4>over state lines. That brings the new like evidentiary.

1859
02:01:26.359 --> 02:01:31.199
<v Speaker 3>Well, and that doesn't surprise me because the things that

1860
02:01:31.359 --> 02:01:41.199
<v Speaker 3>I were reading was about the DNA, oh bio biohacking,

1861
02:01:42.880 --> 02:01:46.920
<v Speaker 3>and it's series that it listed my favorite twenty three

1862
02:01:46.960 --> 02:01:48.319
<v Speaker 3>and May was listed in there.

1863
02:01:48.680 --> 02:01:51.000
<v Speaker 4>Dude, you know we're gonna we should do one on

1864
02:01:51.880 --> 02:01:54.880
<v Speaker 4>when we do this, If we do this next, we

1865
02:01:55.000 --> 02:01:58.720
<v Speaker 4>have to do one on the DNA testing the DNA studies.

1866
02:01:58.760 --> 02:02:02.359
<v Speaker 4>Because one thing that happened, and right as p Diddy

1867
02:02:02.399 --> 02:02:05.119
<v Speaker 4>got arrested, I opened up my phone one morning, no shit,

1868
02:02:05.359 --> 02:02:07.319
<v Speaker 4>just like to scroll. I'm on here, like do do?

1869
02:02:07.960 --> 02:02:11.319
<v Speaker 4>And I just start scrolling and I'm like, wait what

1870
02:02:11.520 --> 02:02:14.000
<v Speaker 4>because it'll like send you things that it knows you

1871
02:02:14.039 --> 02:02:16.520
<v Speaker 4>look at, right. So I look at it and it

1872
02:02:16.600 --> 02:02:18.840
<v Speaker 4>says something something twenty three and me, well, I do

1873
02:02:18.920 --> 02:02:22.840
<v Speaker 4>so much genetic research stuff that I just screenshotted it

1874
02:02:22.840 --> 02:02:25.039
<v Speaker 4>because I didn't have time, not because it was nefarious.

1875
02:02:25.119 --> 02:02:27.439
<v Speaker 4>I was busy, so I was like, I gotta read

1876
02:02:27.439 --> 02:02:30.800
<v Speaker 4>this later. Oh it was the best thing I ever did,

1877
02:02:30.880 --> 02:02:34.800
<v Speaker 4>because that shit's gone. But it showed all about how

1878
02:02:34.920 --> 02:02:37.199
<v Speaker 4>every single person on the board of twenty three and

1879
02:02:37.279 --> 02:02:41.560
<v Speaker 4>me the day PA didty was arrested, resigned, every fucking one,

1880
02:02:42.199 --> 02:02:45.119
<v Speaker 4>and I have the proof. And so when it gets

1881
02:02:45.119 --> 02:02:47.159
<v Speaker 4>into this and and more Chicky and we'll bring her

1882
02:02:47.239 --> 02:02:50.600
<v Speaker 4>up when we do this episode all about the word

1883
02:02:50.720 --> 02:02:54.039
<v Speaker 4>chickies who own twenty not just the twenty three and me,

1884
02:02:54.600 --> 02:02:56.960
<v Speaker 4>but they She was over YouTube and all of these

1885
02:02:57.000 --> 02:03:00.399
<v Speaker 4>people suddenly started dropping dead, like the lady that was

1886
02:03:00.439 --> 02:03:03.720
<v Speaker 4>over the YouTube one dropped dead and her son dropped dead.

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<v Speaker 4>And whenever you get like a death toll, like this

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<v Speaker 4>crazy death hole thing, you have to start asking yourself

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<v Speaker 4>why it's scary.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, we know that there's some from fuckery

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<v Speaker 3>going on with the genetics and building the the genome

1892
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<v Speaker 3>and all of that stuff, and all these weird you know,

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<v Speaker 3>underground quessions.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Zoro Ranch.

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<v Speaker 3>Well you was gonna say, Zoro Ranch, and you know

1896
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<v Speaker 3>all these other things that are associated with it, so.

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<v Speaker 4>Seating labs, like these seating labs and this artificial womb shit,

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<v Speaker 4>and look it sounds I already. Look, we all said

1899
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<v Speaker 4>everything sounded crazy. Telly released the ship and went, here's

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<v Speaker 4>your fucking crazy read it, and then everybody went it's

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<v Speaker 4>fake because you can't the fact that it might be

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<v Speaker 4>fucking true.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and it's on that what is it agenda twenty

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<v Speaker 3>forty oh twenty thirty which whatever. Yeah, and it talks

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<v Speaker 3>about like transhumanism and they're push toward that and the

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<v Speaker 3>the baby wounds and likes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Taking out your consciousness basically removing your brain and hooking

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<v Speaker 3>it up to something whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>If you guys do that, this is where in the

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<v Speaker 4>Bible where the Bible comes in, it says in the

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<v Speaker 4>last days, men will cry out for death and they

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<v Speaker 4>will not be able to die. Figure it out before

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<v Speaker 4>it happens. Yeah, let them do this.

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<v Speaker 6>He'll be one of those people.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't go get it, don't do the thing like neuralinks

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<v Speaker 4>scary enough. But I'm telling you guys, there's some actual

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<v Speaker 4>like where me and Janet study these things. We go

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<v Speaker 4>deep dive and prove the real facts. That's why I

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<v Speaker 4>can't stay on a damn show with Janet.

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<v Speaker 6>Because that doesn't help.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't happen with everybody else. It doesn't happen if

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02:05:06.000 --> 02:05:09.079
<v Speaker 4>I'm talking crazy, that next one will probably be fine

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<v Speaker 4>because it's crazy. It's crazy, and they want us to

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02:05:11.800 --> 02:05:14.960
<v Speaker 4>talk about crazy shit. So but I'm telling you guys,

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<v Speaker 4>like there are people that had lots of money that

1927
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<v Speaker 4>were obsessed with this stuff. But there's older things like Paracelsus,

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<v Speaker 4>and we'll get into that, like the Paraceelsian society and stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>and what they were doing when they say they made

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<v Speaker 4>a person in a bottle, this homunculus thing, and there's

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<v Speaker 4>these old books that you know, you guys, this is

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<v Speaker 4>one chap. I will bring the heat for this. But

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<v Speaker 4>one little piece of it is they had to beat

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<v Speaker 4>the cow, which is where the baby is, because they

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<v Speaker 4>like made it with blood. Here we go again with

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<v Speaker 4>the blood. Why Mormon blood. Most of us are oh

1937
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<v Speaker 4>positive because of our genetics, and oh positive matters when

1938
02:05:56.600 --> 02:06:00.439
<v Speaker 4>you're donating. So there's that. But yeah, I know, when

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<v Speaker 4>we're looking at all this stuff that sounds crazy. Then

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<v Speaker 4>you put it together, if you know enough about Paracelsus stuff,

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02:06:08.520 --> 02:06:12.079
<v Speaker 4>you go, oh my gosh. And then but then they

1942
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<v Speaker 4>have to get the biggest dog dick they can find

1943
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<v Speaker 4>and then beat the cow. Like some of it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>That sounds like a bad pornography.

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<v Speaker 4>This is gonna be a weird one, y'all. But you

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<v Speaker 4>already know I'm weird, so whatever, I don't care. But

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<v Speaker 4>one of the first Paracelsian societies was here in Utah.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell me they weren't fucking with some stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to know what it is about Utah

1950
02:06:36.119 --> 02:06:42.880
<v Speaker 3>that has all this weird, like it's perilental, strange, like

1951
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<v Speaker 3>it's always Utah.

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<v Speaker 4>I just that's because well, one of the very first

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<v Speaker 4>prophets sons so not profit he was like in the

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<v Speaker 4>top counselors Orson Hyde. Yeah, I think you'd be. I

1955
02:06:55.279 --> 02:06:58.000
<v Speaker 4>can't remember. But anyway, Orson Hyde's son. He was a

1956
02:06:58.039 --> 02:07:01.880
<v Speaker 4>genetics doctor and they were very involved with Obviously we're

1957
02:07:01.880 --> 02:07:03.399
<v Speaker 4>gonna have to go to the Nazis for one of

1958
02:07:03.439 --> 02:07:06.960
<v Speaker 4>these shows. Let me do this, because who was obsessed

1959
02:07:07.079 --> 02:07:09.920
<v Speaker 4>with this? Right? And if you look at the Epstein files,

1960
02:07:09.960 --> 02:07:14.079
<v Speaker 4>they're crazy about the blue eyes, like they're psychotic about it.

1961
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<v Speaker 4>But where does this come up? I'll tell you where.

1962
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<v Speaker 4>Laurie Vallo, the one that killed her kids because it

1963
02:07:20.680 --> 02:07:22.960
<v Speaker 4>was a mercy thing because sabotens and we'll get in

1964
02:07:23.079 --> 02:07:26.439
<v Speaker 4>that later. But this whole thing where she kills her kids, right,

1965
02:07:26.479 --> 02:07:30.239
<v Speaker 4>because it's like mercy and if you read about why,

1966
02:07:30.439 --> 02:07:33.079
<v Speaker 4>it's very strange. But she mentioned something over and over

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<v Speaker 4>again about how blue Joseph Smith's eyes were and I went,

1968
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<v Speaker 4>you motherfuckers, like you've known this for so long, Like

1969
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<v Speaker 4>this is actually a little bit frightening to know that

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<v Speaker 4>you guys have found some superior thing, you know, and

1971
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<v Speaker 4>it's way before Hitler, It's but did yeah, I mean

1972
02:07:53.560 --> 02:07:56.560
<v Speaker 4>sure he was their puppet. But this is like stuff

1973
02:07:56.560 --> 02:08:01.359
<v Speaker 4>that's old, so crazy crazy Ville. But these studies go

1974
02:08:01.439 --> 02:08:03.399
<v Speaker 4>back like the Boys of Brazil and I know that's

1975
02:08:03.479 --> 02:08:05.640
<v Speaker 4>not real, but like we have to look at it

1976
02:08:05.720 --> 02:08:09.159
<v Speaker 4>like it's just it's that shit crazy. So I think

1977
02:08:09.199 --> 02:08:10.960
<v Speaker 4>they just shove it in our face and they're like, oh,

1978
02:08:10.960 --> 02:08:16.520
<v Speaker 4>but it's fiction. Just read the book. It's fun. Take

1979
02:08:16.520 --> 02:08:20.479
<v Speaker 4>your Gila monster today? Yeah, did you take your Geela

1980
02:08:20.520 --> 02:08:22.840
<v Speaker 4>Monster shot today? To be skinny? Because we all hope

1981
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<v Speaker 4>you turn into reptilians but we're just kidding.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well kind of like COVID and they're like, oh,

1983
02:08:28.640 --> 02:08:31.840
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't change your DNA like at all, Like like

1984
02:08:31.880 --> 02:08:37.239
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't and now they're like, oh, just getting our bed,

1985
02:08:37.600 --> 02:08:39.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah it does modify that.

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<v Speaker 4>And one of them we should definitely do on blood

1987
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<v Speaker 4>blood like just a whole bunch on like a the

1988
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<v Speaker 4>Golden Blood be like these old Cherokee stories of blood

1989
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<v Speaker 4>and like these weird things, but it comes into kachina dolls.

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<v Speaker 4>I know how it sounds crazy, but I'm telling you, guys,

1991
02:08:59.439 --> 02:09:03.119
<v Speaker 4>this stuff, this weird stuff, Okay, it came from somewhere.

1992
02:09:03.640 --> 02:09:07.520
<v Speaker 4>This wasn't just somebody trippin', Like it's repeated too much.

1993
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<v Speaker 4>It's just on and on and on repeated. So I

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<v Speaker 4>think that you know they're tying. They're like definitely tying

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<v Speaker 4>things together. And who else talked about this whole? Tim

1996
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<v Speaker 4>Ballard said the Mormon Church was and I know, like

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<v Speaker 4>I get it. He was under fire. He jumped ship

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<v Speaker 4>to the Catholics. Don't forget. They're all working together, right,

1999
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<v Speaker 4>all of them. But he said some shit that was

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<v Speaker 4>like pretty nefarious that people were like, well, Tim Ballard's

2001
02:09:33.079 --> 02:09:35.439
<v Speaker 4>an asshole. I'm like, but assholes tell the truth sometimes,

2002
02:09:37.199 --> 02:09:39.000
<v Speaker 4>so we have to look at it. He was talking

2003
02:09:39.039 --> 02:09:41.880
<v Speaker 4>about those damn blue eyes again and Buddha. They talk

2004
02:09:41.920 --> 02:09:46.479
<v Speaker 4>about Buddha having blue eyes. Right, They are messing with

2005
02:09:46.520 --> 02:09:48.119
<v Speaker 4>some stuff. And I don't want to ruin it all

2006
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<v Speaker 4>because I already know, but yeah, it gets weird, That's

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<v Speaker 4>all I can say.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm just gonna throw this in there. But you

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned a Kachina doll. Oh yeah, and when in my

2010
02:09:59.439 --> 02:10:07.800
<v Speaker 3>previous marriage he was an abusive alcoholic person and so

2011
02:10:07.960 --> 02:10:12.960
<v Speaker 3>he was always very violent and whatever. And I went,

2012
02:10:13.840 --> 02:10:17.520
<v Speaker 3>we had this big glass front door, and I was

2013
02:10:17.560 --> 02:10:20.439
<v Speaker 3>walking by the glass front door one day and I'm like,

2014
02:10:21.319 --> 02:10:28.560
<v Speaker 3>there's something on the porch. Somebody put a Kachina protector

2015
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<v Speaker 3>warrior on my porch. I don't know who, don't know

2016
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<v Speaker 3>where it came from, don't know if somebody sent it,

2017
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<v Speaker 3>if this a bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Just what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm od of whatever. But that was like a

2020
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<v Speaker 3>protector thing. And I thought it was weird that because

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't even know what a Kachina doll was at

2022
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<v Speaker 3>the time.

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<v Speaker 4>The stories of what's weird they come from is crazy.

2024
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<v Speaker 4>It has to do with angels. Also in these papers

2025
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<v Speaker 4>from Epstein, uh Les Wexner, the pink guy Victoria's Secret right,

2026
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<v Speaker 4>like the number one, one of the main funders for Epstein.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, and I quote, he had a dipic in

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<v Speaker 4>him since he was a child, like a dipic, like

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<v Speaker 4>a dipic box dipic mm hmm, like like a bad spirit.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, what the fuck did you just say? Like

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<v Speaker 4>I know that there's a lot in those Well it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to take as a trillion million years to look

2033
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<v Speaker 4>all this, you know, through the Epstein files. But it

2034
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<v Speaker 4>is wild to me how many things came out that

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<v Speaker 4>I was just like, what did you just say? He

2036
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<v Speaker 4>had an evil spirit that rules him. That's interesting because

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<v Speaker 4>that goes right along with some stuff that I study.

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<v Speaker 3>M That would that surprise you, would that shock you?

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<v Speaker 6>No, nothing though, nothing is not now anymore?

2040
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, not anymore because we see and then it makes

2041
02:11:57.680 --> 02:12:00.000
<v Speaker 4>it make a little more sense when you hear they

2042
02:12:00.039 --> 02:12:06.399
<v Speaker 4>were requiring blood. Okay, and it sounds ridiculous, but if

2043
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<v Speaker 4>you know about these bloodlined families, why is Utah involved

2044
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<v Speaker 4>Because they are the posterity of first families and there

2045
02:12:15.079 --> 02:12:17.319
<v Speaker 4>are only so many first families that came over on

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<v Speaker 4>the very first Mayflower and they are very important. So yep,

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<v Speaker 4>it's gonna be good.

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<v Speaker 6>Looking forward to that series.

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<v Speaker 4>It's gonna be a good one. I knew i'd come

2050
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<v Speaker 4>up with something. To think about it for a minute,

2051
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<v Speaker 4>I do.

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<v Speaker 6>I've been writing notes out taken.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Heidi forgots.

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<v Speaker 3>So thank you, my darling for joining me for another episode.

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<v Speaker 6>We got one more in the series.

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<v Speaker 3>And uh that one's gonna be some crazy business as well.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh so where can they find you?

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<v Speaker 4>My dear? Absolutely well, Miss Janet always a pleasure. I

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<v Speaker 4>love talking to my bestie and she puts up with

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<v Speaker 4>me when I'm running late because I go crazy and

2061
02:13:07.840 --> 02:13:11.720
<v Speaker 4>forget things like the dog's food this morning. But we

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<v Speaker 4>don't have to put room. I'm telling you a way

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<v Speaker 4>to go. Riger you saved me. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>That's my son for anybody that doesn't know. So he's

2065
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<v Speaker 4>a good kid. He's off to his job as a

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<v Speaker 4>CNA as we spoke about all this stuff. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you can find me in all my chaos at on

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<v Speaker 4>filteredrice podcast dot com. I'm also everywhere podcasts are served,

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<v Speaker 4>but especially if you're watching this episode because you're lucky

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<v Speaker 4>enough to be subscribed, you are probably on my Patreon

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<v Speaker 4>because I don't let these go out very often because

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<v Speaker 4>I think they're well worth it. So five bucks a month,

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<v Speaker 4>like it's really not that deep. But if you can't

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<v Speaker 4>do that, I look, I've been poor a lot in

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<v Speaker 4>my life. I get it. But if you could please

2076
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<v Speaker 4>on Apple, Spotify's great, but on Apple leave me and

2077
02:13:57.920 --> 02:14:02.439
<v Speaker 4>Janet a review, that would be amazing me Unfiltered Rise,

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<v Speaker 4>her at Deplorable Nation, because if it goes to other

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<v Speaker 4>places where we do certain shows, we don't really get those.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's great to comment. Yeah, that's cool, Like, that's

2081
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<v Speaker 4>cool for those, but please for just me and her

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<v Speaker 4>Deplorable Nation and Unfiltered Rise podcasts, because we really need it.

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<v Speaker 4>We were talking about this before we went live, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to get into the weeds with it,

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<v Speaker 4>but we're some of the few people that we just

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<v Speaker 4>are on our own that way, and so yeah, we.

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<v Speaker 3>Need persa and we always like to hear feedback and

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<v Speaker 3>comments and whatever. So greatly appreciated. So make sure you

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<v Speaker 3>go like, comment, subscribe, share, download her show as well

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<v Speaker 3>Unfiltered Rise. And you can find Deplorable Nation on every

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<v Speaker 3>Spotify and Rumble. You can find me on Instagram at

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<v Speaker 3>Deplorable Janet or onto Twitter or x at no Janet

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<v Speaker 3>miss Heidi, thanks for tuning in, ladies and gentlemen, and

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<v Speaker 3>we will see you next time.

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<v Speaker 6>Have a fantastic day.
