WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.520 This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast 2 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:05.759 edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to 3 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:08.240 give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind, 4 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:11.599 and to subscribe, download and listen to the show every 5 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:14.439 single day on your favorite podcast platform. 6 00:00:14.759 --> 00:00:17.719 And as I've promised you guys over the last few 7 00:00:17.719 --> 00:00:19.920 times that I filled in on the show and even yesterday, 8 00:00:20.199 --> 00:00:22.239 I want to try to give a platform to as 9 00:00:22.280 --> 00:00:24.480 many governor candidates as possible and see if we can 10 00:00:24.519 --> 00:00:26.559 find one out there that's got a fire in his belly. 11 00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:29.920 And you know, we've gotten a couple that have had 12 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:33.119 some decent talking points, but so far, I don't think 13 00:00:33.119 --> 00:00:36.119 we've we've necessarily hit a home run. But we're going 14 00:00:36.200 --> 00:00:39.479 to keep trying. And we've got another governor's candidate on 15 00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:42.880 the line today. His name is Jason Clark. He's running 16 00:00:42.920 --> 00:00:46.640 for Colorado governor and his slogan is Let's make Colorado 17 00:00:46.640 --> 00:00:49.960 great again. And before we bring Jason up, I just 18 00:00:50.000 --> 00:00:53.799 want to say, Jason, you submitted to an interview in 19 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:57.039 Westward which wasn't the most flattering of interviews, and I 20 00:00:57.119 --> 00:01:00.560 have to ask to start off this interview, does that 21 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:02.200 make you a little hesitant to want to come on 22 00:01:02.240 --> 00:01:03.000 the radio show. 23 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:08.120 Absolutely not front and center. I want to talk about 24 00:01:08.120 --> 00:01:11.560 my story and what the Colorado Democrats did to me. However, 25 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:14.799 it's long in the tooth, it's complicated, it's full of corruption. 26 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:17.879 It is a phenomenal story, and yes, it is one 27 00:01:17.920 --> 00:01:20.640 of the reasons why I'm running for governor. And if 28 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:23.959 you want to talk about firing the belly, ohha, I 29 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:25.959 got it, and that's the reason. 30 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:30.040 All right. So Jason, before we get into the details, 31 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:33.760 what's your background? What brought you to the table and 32 00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:36.599 made you decide, Hey, I think I've got the chops 33 00:01:36.599 --> 00:01:38.640 to run for the governor of the state of Colorado. 34 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:41.120 Which tell us a little bit about your background. 35 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:45.159 Well, my background is my dad was an Army surgeon. 36 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:48.840 So I was born at Offit Air Force Base in Omaha, Nebraska. 37 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:52.000 Because you went to Creighton, I've lived in Colorado since 38 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:54.079 I was about six months old. Baby, I don't know 39 00:01:54.239 --> 00:01:57.760 anything about Nebraska, so I consider myself of Colorado native. Gotcha, 40 00:01:57.799 --> 00:02:00.319 all my families here, my roots are here. I went 41 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:04.719 to Smokey Hill High school Sco Buffs. After that I graduated, 42 00:02:04.760 --> 00:02:08.080 I went to West Point basically because my dad. I 43 00:02:08.120 --> 00:02:10.439 think a lot has lots to do with it. My dad, 44 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:16.120 he was a colonel, and I got in, graduated, went 45 00:02:16.159 --> 00:02:19.159 back to Fort Carson, served my time, got out, and 46 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:22.080 I was in finance for you know, thirty years. I 47 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:25.879 had a business that I started from scratch, and then 48 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:30.800 what happened to me with the state, which I can 49 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:32.800 give you a summary, or we can move on to 50 00:02:32.919 --> 00:02:36.080 what my platform is because my case is about me, 51 00:02:36.199 --> 00:02:37.919 and I don't want this to be about me, Steve, 52 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:39.639 I really don't. I want this to be about the 53 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:42.680 people of Colorado. Booloo, Jason. No one's going to vote 54 00:02:42.719 --> 00:02:45.080 for you because something bad happened in my life, you know, 55 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:48.080 with the state of Colorado. But it is an impetus 56 00:02:48.159 --> 00:02:51.280 of why I'm running, and I think it's important to 57 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:54.680 tell the story because you look at my background and 58 00:02:54.719 --> 00:02:57.159 what happened to me. This is not America and this 59 00:02:57.240 --> 00:02:58.639 is not Colorado, and this is not right. 60 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:00.879 Said the article. 61 00:03:01.879 --> 00:03:05.240 Well, the article on Westward kind of hints to your 62 00:03:05.319 --> 00:03:07.960 business closing in twenty twenty three, but it doesn't kind of. 63 00:03:08.039 --> 00:03:10.000 I don't think it tells the story that it sounds 64 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:13.319 like you're itching to tell. So let's just hear it. 65 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:15.199 I mean, this is obviously kind of what got you 66 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:17.800 motivated to run for governor, at least this time, because 67 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:20.479 my understanding you've ran a couple of times in the past, 68 00:03:20.520 --> 00:03:21.120 is that correct? 69 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:26.240 That is correct? And you know this time I think 70 00:03:26.240 --> 00:03:29.919 it's different, Steed, because I think I have a credible chance. 71 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:34.719 And again back to why I'm running, Yeah, yeah, my 72 00:03:34.840 --> 00:03:36.120 case has something to do with it. But then I 73 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:39.039 also looked around Colorado and I said, these people don't 74 00:03:39.080 --> 00:03:41.080 know what they're doing. This is totally uncompetent. 75 00:03:41.159 --> 00:03:42.000 I say that all the time. 76 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:45.120 Yep, And I don't see how Hey, if you got 77 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:47.719 people that are Democrats that are listening to you, I 78 00:03:47.719 --> 00:03:51.080 would I cannot wait to debate. I think it will 79 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:53.800 be Michael Bennett. I cannot wait to debate Michael Bennett 80 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:57.560 on his track record because it's an ass and their 81 00:03:57.680 --> 00:04:00.599 plan going forward is an ass. Get Trump is not 82 00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:02.919 going to do anything for most Colorados. It is not 83 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:07.560 my plan will So yeah, the motivation, Steve does come 84 00:04:07.599 --> 00:04:10.960 from my case. But as you just mentioned, I've done this, 85 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:15.240 you know, twice before. This time. I think I have 86 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:18.160 a chance because I've known these people, I know all 87 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:20.519 the characters, I know all the other candidates I've met 88 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:23.240 them throughout the years. I don't think they can win 89 00:04:23.240 --> 00:04:25.399 a general election on the Republican side. I do believe 90 00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:27.639 I'm the only one that can unite the Republican Party 91 00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:31.720 and have a platform that wins the general election. 92 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:34.879 Well what's that platform? Let's hear what are you running on? 93 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:36.959 What are you what makes you different from every other 94 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:40.040 candidate in the race. What are those platforms? 95 00:04:41.399 --> 00:04:44.279 Number one, and this is a playoff the broncos Bo Nix. 96 00:04:44.319 --> 00:04:45.800 I hope he doesn't come after me and sue me 97 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:49.319 for this, but it's Nicks the state income tax, and 98 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:52.319 the key to this is Steve. We can do that 99 00:04:52.680 --> 00:04:56.680 using Tabor. We don't need any legislative approval, no constitutional 100 00:04:56.680 --> 00:05:01.920 improven no Democrats at all. Polish your buddy, Paula written 101 00:05:01.959 --> 00:05:04.839 on this. I just I heard somewhere that you guys 102 00:05:04.879 --> 00:05:05.319 were buddies. 103 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:05.600 I don't know. 104 00:05:05.720 --> 00:05:06.560 That's not true. 105 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:08.639 That's a good way to end this interview. 106 00:05:10.680 --> 00:05:13.319 I'm kidding. We can do it through Tabor. We don't 107 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:17.199 need any democratic approval. Number two, get rid of all 108 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:20.240 the programs that we all know that nobody uses. That's 109 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:23.199 going to save everyone money that month because of taber 110 00:05:23.399 --> 00:05:26.079 goes directly back to the people. So that's going to 111 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:28.639 be about five percent. So to give people an idea, 112 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:31.600 that's five percent you're saving on state income tax, another 113 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:34.519 five percent you're saving on TABOR refunds. That's ten percent. 114 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:37.240 So anyone out there making eighty two hundred thousand, you're 115 00:05:37.240 --> 00:05:39.680 going to get eight to ten thousand dollars back every 116 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:45.000 single year. Under my platform number three, we can also 117 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:49.480 use TABOR to give school teachers more pay. I don't 118 00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:52.079 know any professions and no one can debate me on this, 119 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:56.079 where the people that aren't the best don't make the 120 00:05:56.120 --> 00:06:01.879 most money professional athletes, surgeons, lawyers, doctors. Sure, you have 121 00:06:01.920 --> 00:06:04.199 to pay people. Yeah, so you've got to pay teachers. 122 00:06:04.240 --> 00:06:05.639 If you want the best, if you want to get 123 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:08.920 better teaching, you have to pay for it. And to 124 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:12.560 the point of the status of Colorado, the state of 125 00:06:12.600 --> 00:06:16.959 the state, they've cut two point seven billion from education 126 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:20.240 in the last two years, and they lied to the 127 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:23.120 teachers' unions about it. Five hundred million the first time, 128 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:25.480 one point two billion a second time, six hundred million 129 00:06:25.519 --> 00:06:29.439 for next year. And let's not forget. Let's tell your listeners, 130 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:34.480 let's not let Michael Bennett off the hook for losing 131 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:37.600 two hundred and fifty million dollars on a Derivatis contract 132 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:41.480 with Wall Street JP Morgan when he was the superintendent 133 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:42.600 for Denver Public Schools. 134 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:46.240 Okay, okay, so all right, So your platform is to 135 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:49.839 get rid of the state income tax, use TABOR to 136 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:53.240 basically put money back in the taxpayers pockets. How do 137 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:55.560 you fund the functioning of the state. And I'm only 138 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:57.879 asking you this because one of the candidates we had 139 00:06:57.920 --> 00:07:00.839 on yesterday had had a similar concept of getting rid 140 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:04.079 of the state income tax and really no idea of 141 00:07:04.439 --> 00:07:06.439 how do you fund the government? Then? How do you 142 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:08.680 fund the things that are essential to the state of Colorado. 143 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:10.240 How do you get that done? 144 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:14.120 Easy to do twofold one. We just take a play 145 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:19.160 off of Florida. We have a large skiing industry here. 146 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:23.519 So yes, those out of state people, sorry not in state, 147 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:26.319 out of state skiers are going to pay more because 148 00:07:26.360 --> 00:07:28.399 we're going to You have to have the money from somewhere. 149 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:30.680 You said it. You can raise the taxes on the 150 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:33.560 out of state people, just like Florida does. Okay, that 151 00:07:33.839 --> 00:07:36.560 is number one and number two. You're leading me to 152 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:40.680 my fourth and fifth point on my platform. Maybe I'm 153 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:44.920 being sarcastic. Maybe stop giving illegals five six hundred million 154 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:49.279 dollars a year. This is ridiculous. We are giving illegal 155 00:07:49.560 --> 00:07:52.680 aliens the money that should be going to our schools, 156 00:07:52.879 --> 00:07:57.680 our families, and the people that are residents and citizens 157 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:00.600 of our state. That's ridiculous. So there's a lot of 158 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:03.680 money there. But here's the best part of this. I 159 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:05.920 can answer that question. It's energy. Energy. 160 00:08:06.040 --> 00:08:06.360 Energy. 161 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:09.879 We have all the energy resources. This is number five 162 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:12.800 on my platform. We have all the energy sources right 163 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:16.839 here in Colorado. And we can add nuclear. We need 164 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:19.439 to start doing nuclear energy. If you're going to solve 165 00:08:19.600 --> 00:08:23.000 climate change, you believe in that global warming, whatever, you're 166 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:24.959 not going to do it without nuclear energy. You have 167 00:08:25.040 --> 00:08:27.680 to have it zero carbon emissions. We can also use 168 00:08:27.720 --> 00:08:30.279 geo thermal. The weight of the Rockies. It's right here, 169 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:33.919 where's all the residents in Colorado up along the Front Range. 170 00:08:34.120 --> 00:08:37.320 So geo thermal the weight of the Rockies cracks the crust. 171 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:40.240 We can go down and develop it. Actually, California is 172 00:08:40.279 --> 00:08:42.480 number one and geo thermal in the country. We can 173 00:08:42.600 --> 00:08:46.360 use that technology and power the entire Front Range. Geo 174 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:52.240 Thermal and nuclear combined with yes coal, yes oil, liquefied 175 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:57.799 natural gas, natural gas, wind, solar, hydro. We need to 176 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:00.679 do it all. That will fund all of our programs, 177 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:04.320 including the HIT, will take on the five percent state 178 00:09:04.320 --> 00:09:07.600 income tax, and we can fix our roads, clean up 179 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:11.639 our cities that are dirty and a mess, and we 180 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:19.080 will have Denver being the most beautiful, prettiest city in America. 181 00:09:19.399 --> 00:09:20.639 It'll be cleaner than Singapore. 182 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:23.320 So, Jason, you don't get there without getting your message out, 183 00:09:23.840 --> 00:09:27.440 and you know I can tell you're passionate. How do 184 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:29.799 you get that message out to the voters of Colorado? 185 00:09:29.879 --> 00:09:32.279 And what voters are you most trying to appeal to. 186 00:09:34.519 --> 00:09:37.600 I want people to know that I'm for all Colorado's 187 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:42.480 not just any demographic group. Everybody benefits from my plan. 188 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:45.399 It's a plan for every Colorado. And because I'm not 189 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:48.240 a name, you know that you said that I don't 190 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:50.200 have a lot of money. I'm not a rich guy. 191 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:53.559 I'm not poor. I'm very fortunate and very grateful for 192 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:55.799 my health and everything that I've been able to do 193 00:09:55.840 --> 00:09:58.000 in my life. I live a very good life, even 194 00:09:58.039 --> 00:09:59.720 after the things that have happened to me. But the 195 00:09:59.759 --> 00:10:02.840 ant to your question, is social media. I've been doing 196 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:06.000 this back since Barack Obama. I'm like, he's going to 197 00:10:06.039 --> 00:10:08.120 win because he's going to get this social media. So 198 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:10.200 if you look at my social media platform, I'm on 199 00:10:10.399 --> 00:10:14.919 all of them. There are a few other Republicans that 200 00:10:14.960 --> 00:10:18.159 are even on TikTok, my biggest following. I get a 201 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:23.320 thousand times more interaction on TikTok than Facebook. So I've 202 00:10:23.360 --> 00:10:26.840 had people. I've had I mean even even my two nephews. 203 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:28.799 I was out of the wedding about a week ago 204 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:31.080 and they're like, nobody's looking at it. They call me 205 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:34.080 eagles because I'm balding. You know, no one's looking at 206 00:10:34.120 --> 00:10:35.960 your posts. I'm like, guys, let me show you something 207 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:38.799 on TikTok. And I show them my TikTok and they're like, 208 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:42.440 oh my god, Wow, that's wow. That's way more so 209 00:10:42.440 --> 00:10:44.519 social media. And for the people out there that like 210 00:10:44.600 --> 00:10:48.399 the message, like the platform, like the passion, like the energy, follow, 211 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:52.240 like share, comment on social media, I'm on all the 212 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:55.360 platforms LinkedIn Facebook, Instagram. 213 00:10:55.039 --> 00:10:56.759 And how do they how do they find you? What 214 00:10:56.799 --> 00:10:58.960 are they what do they search for on those platforms? 215 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:04.559 Oh Clark for Colorado Gov. That's on all the platform. 216 00:11:04.600 --> 00:11:06.960 It's Clark for Colorado Gov. 217 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:09.759 All right, So Jason, we got just a few minutes 218 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:13.360 left here. I can't. I can't let you go without 219 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:15.600 asking you what is it that? What was that thing 220 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:18.120 that the Democrats did to you that fired you up? 221 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:18.519 Well? 222 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:21.480 Can you summarize it in just a couple of seconds. 223 00:11:21.960 --> 00:11:22.240 I can. 224 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:24.720 Here's what happened. I was a registered investment advisor for 225 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:28.120 thirty years in the state of Colorado. The carraud of 226 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:31.360 Division of Securities and Charles Swap, yes v Charles Swap 227 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:37.480 accused me, Jason Clark, of quote unquote, stealing my customer's money. Okay, Okay, 228 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:41.399 the exact words were, Jason Clark is wiring money, writing 229 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:45.159 checks and dispersing money from customer accounts end quote. They 230 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:47.399 removed me from their platform at SWAP. I don't work 231 00:11:47.399 --> 00:11:51.159 for SWAP. I just contracted them, Okay. Then I took 232 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:53.519 Swap and the car out Division of Securities to Finra. 233 00:11:53.720 --> 00:11:55.840 I won. I proved my innocence. Of course, I was 234 00:11:55.840 --> 00:11:57.840 not doing this. This happens all the time. I was 235 00:11:57.840 --> 00:12:00.639 not doing anything that these people accuse me. Up my 236 00:12:00.720 --> 00:12:05.679 funeral arbitration settlement, says Jason Clark, did nothing dishonest, nothing dishonorable, 237 00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:09.000 and no compliance issues were ultimately found. Then I did 238 00:12:09.039 --> 00:12:12.000 all with myself, Steve. Then I sued everybody. When I 239 00:12:12.039 --> 00:12:16.639 say everybody, Steve, I meet everybody, including Charles Schwab himself, Wobb, 240 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:22.159 the College Division of Securities, everybody. Then that's still ongoing, 241 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:24.480 by the way. Then after that I sued them for 242 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:29.120 defamation of character, after I proved my innocence. Then Woke Wiser, 243 00:12:29.600 --> 00:12:34.399 Woke Wiser and Beta Bennett and Paulis the Democrats in charge. 244 00:12:34.559 --> 00:12:36.679 I say Woke Wiser because he's the age. He's the 245 00:12:36.679 --> 00:12:40.039 guy that did this to me. He revoked my licenses 246 00:12:40.240 --> 00:12:44.360 and shut down my business. And here's the kicker people 247 00:12:44.399 --> 00:12:46.120 got to you. If you read it on the internet, 248 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:48.120 you're not going to see that. They accused me of 249 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:50.919 stealing customers money. That's how this all started, Steve. That's 250 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:54.240 the whole point. But my funeral arbitration that clears me. 251 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:58.080 The judge blocked it three separate times in court. He 252 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:01.360 won't allow it. Why because it says I didn't do 253 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:05.679 anything dishonest, nothing dishonorable, nothing unethical, and they found no 254 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:09.240 compliance issues. You can't go from that under the law 255 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:13.120 to revoking my licenses and shutting down my business. All right, 256 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:17.240 I didn't do anything willful, nothing willful, nothing dishonest, and 257 00:13:17.360 --> 00:13:20.039 I'm not a threat and a harm to the investing public. 258 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:22.559 All right, we'll cut it there. So Jason, one more time, 259 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:25.879 tell people how they can find you on social media. 260 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:30.519 Social media is Clark for Colorado GOUGZ. The website is 261 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:34.360 the same as my slogan, Let's make Colorado great again. 262 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:37.440 All right, sounds good. Thanks Jason for coming on with us. 263 00:13:37.799 --> 00:13:39.960 Maybe we'll have you back on sometime in the near future. 264 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:42.320 You definitely brought the fire good luck to you in 265 00:13:42.840 --> 00:13:45.320 your run in your run. And with that, we got 266 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:47.399 to cut to break. You're listening to the Dan Cafless 267 00:13:47.399 --> 00:13:49.320 Show here with Well Kunny Sheriff Steve Riems as your 268 00:13:49.320 --> 00:13:49.840 guest host. 269 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:58.519 And now back to the Dan Tapless Show podcast. 270 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:04.120 Before we went to break, we had three time gubernatorial 271 00:14:04.159 --> 00:14:06.679 candidate for the state of Colorado, Jason Clark, on with us. 272 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:10.159 He's in his third attempt here at trying to win 273 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:12.519 the state over and during the break, we've got a 274 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:14.519 few text messages and we've got a call quete up 275 00:14:14.519 --> 00:14:16.639 that we'll get to in just a second. But you 276 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:18.240 send him in. We're going to read them as long 277 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:21.279 as you keep from radio friendly. And so I'm going 278 00:14:21.320 --> 00:14:22.879 to read a couple of texts that came into my 279 00:14:22.919 --> 00:14:26.559 personal phone about the last interview. One of them says, 280 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:29.080 this guy sounds like he might be just a little crazy, 281 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:31.759 but at least he doesn't hate teachers. Here's another one, 282 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:34.159 Oh man, he's on TikTok, he's got my vote. And 283 00:14:34.200 --> 00:14:39.039 then here's one, Steve, this guy needs to switch to decaf. 284 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:42.200 I will say this, he was definitely not a boring interview. 285 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:45.559 I told Jason to bring the fire when he came 286 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:49.559 on the show, and he absolutely was a little fired up. 287 00:14:49.639 --> 00:14:52.559 So we've got Jay in Denver that wants to make 288 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:54.080 some comments about Jason. 289 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:55.399 Jay. 290 00:14:55.440 --> 00:14:57.799 Are you with us? 291 00:14:58.639 --> 00:15:00.720 Jay, I'm glad to talk to you, Sheriff. 292 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:02.559 Glad to have you on. What do you think about 293 00:15:02.600 --> 00:15:03.799 that candidate? 294 00:15:04.799 --> 00:15:09.919 Well, if he wants to reproduce Obama's success, he has 295 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:15.759 to work the Obama model. Obama did two things. One, 296 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:20.159 he was a community organizer, so he had a grassroots 297 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:24.720 community that he that he organized. And two, most importantly, 298 00:15:25.639 --> 00:15:33.759 he garnered the support of Oprah Winford and he along 299 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:38.080 with other millionaires, few him as a young man who 300 00:15:38.120 --> 00:15:43.200 had a program, and he powered him right through being. 301 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:47.320 Oh, Jay, I think we I think your phone cut out. 302 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:54.919 Unless mister Clark captures the imagination of Elon Musk, who 303 00:15:54.919 --> 00:15:59.039 we might through his energy policies and energy and issues, 304 00:15:59.679 --> 00:16:02.679 I don't think he has a chance. He needs money 305 00:16:02.879 --> 00:16:05.120 to be the governor of Colorado. 306 00:16:05.960 --> 00:16:09.879 Yeah, I can't. I can't necessarily break with you on that, Jay. 307 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:11.679 I mean, I think any race that you try to 308 00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:15.000 run on a state wide level takes cash. And you know, 309 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:18.440 to your point, how do you develop that cash behind you? 310 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:20.679 You know, sometimes you got to find you got to 311 00:16:20.679 --> 00:16:22.480 find a way to appeal to those folks that are 312 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:26.080 willing to be willing to really chip in. Maybe Elon 313 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:30.440 muskets involved. I don't know. I'll say this, he wasn't boring. 314 00:16:31.559 --> 00:16:34.679 That's true. That's very true. Let me say one of 315 00:16:34.759 --> 00:16:39.559 the things about that I'm observed, and that is that 316 00:16:40.039 --> 00:16:43.799 there are two Colorado is, almost two different states. 317 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:45.639 Yes, sir, I know where you're going. 318 00:16:47.320 --> 00:16:53.120 The urban areas Colorado Springs, Denver, Boulder, they tend to 319 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:59.320 be more democratic. In the other outlying areas they tend 320 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:06.279 to be more of Republican Aspen, Burlington, those areas, so 321 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:09.359 you get a different type of voter in those areas. Sure, 322 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:14.079 the Republicans have to somehow appeal to the urban areas 323 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:16.759 more than they have in the past. 324 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:21.200 Do you think there's a particular message that resonates with 325 00:17:21.240 --> 00:17:23.359 the urban population a little. 326 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:33.720 Better understanding the urban issues better? You know, urban voters 327 00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:37.680 aren't stupid. They can see that there's a dichotomy in 328 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:43.920 the laws, enforcement of laws in the urban areas versus 329 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:49.920 sure the farmland or the agrarian areas. One key example 330 00:17:50.079 --> 00:17:52.400 is as a as an urban liver. 331 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:55.079 I'm sorry, Jay, we're going into a herd break, so 332 00:17:55.279 --> 00:17:57.160 I can't let you expand on that one. But thank 333 00:17:57.200 --> 00:17:59.680 you for calling in, and please call in again. We 334 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:02.640 love having callers. We're going to go to break. When 335 00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:04.480 we come back, we're going to reset and we're gonna 336 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:06.839 have George Brockler coming in to visit with us. But 337 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:09.160 you're listening to the Dan Caplis Show here on six 338 00:18:09.160 --> 00:18:11.519 point thirty k how with well Keunty Sheriff Steve Rings. 339 00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:22.319 You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. 340 00:18:23.720 --> 00:18:25.599 Back to the Dan Caplas show with Well County Sheriff 341 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:28.559 Steve Rings setting in as a guest host today and 342 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:31.240 on the line with us is one of our one 343 00:18:31.279 --> 00:18:34.240 of our favorites. It's a mister George Brockler from the 344 00:18:34.279 --> 00:18:36.680 twenty third Judicial District. He's going to tell us a 345 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:39.640 little bit about a recent prosecution that he was successful with. 346 00:18:39.839 --> 00:18:42.359 But before you do that, or I have to share 347 00:18:42.359 --> 00:18:44.000 a text with you from one of the people that 348 00:18:44.079 --> 00:18:46.680 I'm sure you're going to know very well. This is Alexa. 349 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:49.720 She's sent in a text even before I think we 350 00:18:49.799 --> 00:18:52.400 had you on the show, we had you booked. She says. 351 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:55.799 George is a great storyteller. If the DA lawyer or 352 00:18:55.839 --> 00:18:58.960 talk show host gig goes away, he should read books. 353 00:18:58.960 --> 00:19:01.960 For audio recordings, he does fun voices. So I'm going 354 00:19:02.039 --> 00:19:05.000 to expect that you're going to have to throw some 355 00:19:05.079 --> 00:19:05.559 of that in here. 356 00:19:05.599 --> 00:19:09.880 Hoor Yeah. I don't know if I can pull that off. 357 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:13.680 About he's thinking what I'm going to do next? Like that, 358 00:19:13.759 --> 00:19:15.920 she's already thinking what's he going to do next? Walk 359 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:16.279 out here? 360 00:19:16.359 --> 00:19:18.519 Yeah, they've already buried you as the district attorney. 361 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:21.759 So so George, now that Justin Smith is taking that 362 00:19:21.799 --> 00:19:23.880 sweet gig man. I mean I could hear it in 363 00:19:23.880 --> 00:19:25.559 your voice when you were interview him. That's sort of 364 00:19:25.640 --> 00:19:27.119 how the hell did you pull this off? 365 00:19:28.160 --> 00:19:30.640 Well, I mean I thought there'd be a height requirement 366 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:33.079 for that job, you know. And he definitely doesn't mean 367 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:37.680 that he's going to do a great He's a great guy. 368 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:39.960 He's going to do an excellent job out there. But George, 369 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:42.759 I know recently you were on with Ryan I believe, 370 00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:45.440 talking on his show about a prosecution you had there 371 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:47.839 in the twenty third Judicial District in reference to a 372 00:19:47.960 --> 00:19:52.039 child pornography case. If I'm not mistaken, that's what we're 373 00:19:52.039 --> 00:19:53.880 here to talk about today. Is that correct? 374 00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:55.160 Yeah? 375 00:19:55.160 --> 00:19:57.359 I sure hope so yeah. If there's more than one 376 00:19:57.480 --> 00:20:01.079 that's recent, big, I hope not. This is this is 377 00:20:01.079 --> 00:20:03.440 a great case, but it does kind of dovetail nicely 378 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:06.960 with the conversation that you've had today about law enforcement 379 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:10.720 and some of the limitations from the legislation and whatnot. 380 00:20:10.759 --> 00:20:13.599 This was a guy, twenty nine year old guy who 381 00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:17.480 got busted for having a child pornography. And I'm talking 382 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:24.839 about salacious adult having sexual relations with infants, kind of 383 00:20:24.920 --> 00:20:29.319 child porn and he had so much child porn stored 384 00:20:29.400 --> 00:20:31.759 up in the cloud. And it was interesting because it 385 00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:34.720 was an out of the United States company that was 386 00:20:34.759 --> 00:20:36.839 doing this. It was an Asian company, and they had 387 00:20:36.839 --> 00:20:39.240 agreed with law enforcement, Hey, we're going to let you 388 00:20:39.440 --> 00:20:43.319 have one week worth of access to download all the 389 00:20:43.359 --> 00:20:45.359 stuff that this guy had stored up there. He was 390 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:47.680 also distributing it. You know, these guys are all Afearence. 391 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:53.400 It took them all week to download two hundred thousand images, 392 00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:55.880 and they could have kept going if they'd had more time. 393 00:20:55.960 --> 00:20:58.400 He had way more than two hundred thousand images of 394 00:20:58.440 --> 00:21:02.319 this stuff, and so he gets busted for that. It's 395 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:05.640 an epic amount of child porn. I don't think I've 396 00:21:05.680 --> 00:21:09.440 ever seen anything quite quite that big in terms of numbers. 397 00:21:10.079 --> 00:21:12.759 But again to your point, the law is set up, 398 00:21:13.119 --> 00:21:17.039 especially in Colorado, to be very forgiving of sex offenders, 399 00:21:17.119 --> 00:21:20.240 especially sex offenders and children. So discussed the past, you've 400 00:21:20.240 --> 00:21:23.400 heard that the legislature was happy had the opportunity this 401 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:25.880