1 00:00:07,519 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Games Mornings with Me Jeff Grubb, 2 00:00:10,759 --> 00:00:13,519 your host from GiantBomb dot com. 3 00:00:13,599 --> 00:00:15,439 Speaker 2: I'm back. Thank you for tuning in. 4 00:00:15,439 --> 00:00:17,719 Speaker 1: In this episode, we're gonna be talking about raising money 5 00:00:17,719 --> 00:00:20,879 while making Oopsie's and a physical game pops off while 6 00:00:20,879 --> 00:00:23,839 the rest of the industry prepares for the all digital future. 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,519 It's gonna be a good one because we have Jason 8 00:00:26,519 --> 00:00:29,960 Fonelli on the show. Jason, it's a Monday to Friday 9 00:00:30,039 --> 00:00:32,679 Jason Finelli connection. That's the way we like to do 10 00:00:32,719 --> 00:00:34,920 it here. Thanks for being back on the show. I 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:35,840 never left the chair. 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,679 Speaker 3: I just sat up here for four days and now 13 00:00:38,719 --> 00:00:41,159 I can be free to do something else. But no, 14 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,920 great to see you back. Shout outs to Mike Manatti 15 00:00:44,359 --> 00:00:46,359 who did hold down the Ford. Yes, thank you so 16 00:00:46,439 --> 00:00:49,320 much in your absence while you went and enjoyed some 17 00:00:49,399 --> 00:00:52,119 time with your family as well. You should glad to 18 00:00:52,119 --> 00:00:55,280 see you came back to immediate horrors as it pertains 19 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,000 to the package on your doorstep. Everything you were saying 20 00:00:59,039 --> 00:01:01,320 about your wife's reaction into this costume just makes me 21 00:01:01,359 --> 00:01:03,600 more and more excited to see what's going on there. 22 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: You can't figure it out like I'm like what would 23 00:01:07,519 --> 00:01:10,400 scare her so much? I don't know anywhere we're talking 24 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,480 about Blake Club. Everybody my Blake Club costume arrived. Steff 25 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:14,920 always kind of gets it out, gets it ready and 26 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,280 sets it aside without me seeing it. And she did 27 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,840 it like as soon as we got home, and she's like, 28 00:01:18,879 --> 00:01:20,920 you can't come in here, Like what is she talking about? 29 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:25,239 Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, Blake Club. And yeah, she's, like 30 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:26,200 I said, distraught. 31 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,599 Speaker 1: It's not just like she's scared, like there's something that 32 00:01:28,719 --> 00:01:30,079 is upsetting. 33 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: Her more than usual. So I don't know. 34 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: No, yeah, I don't know anything about it. I have 35 00:01:36,079 --> 00:01:38,840 not been tipped off. I'm going to find out with 36 00:01:38,879 --> 00:01:40,319 everybody else that I'm very excited to do. 37 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: So it's absurd. I don't know why I deserve any 38 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,640 of this. These idiots got into a battle and it's like, 39 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,519 you know, this war between two countries and they're like, 40 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,519 all right, let's let's put this down and just go 41 00:01:52,599 --> 00:01:53,599 attack this guy. 42 00:01:53,439 --> 00:01:56,319 Speaker 2: For no reason. I don't think it's fair. 43 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,599 Speaker 1: Fuck you, Switzerland, They're coming for you. Yeah, come on, Switzerland, 44 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,920 ever do wrong? All right, let's see here. You know, 45 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,239 what how do we do this show? I think what 46 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,480 we do now is say hey, thanks for watching. Let's 47 00:02:07,519 --> 00:02:10,280 explain ourselves. This is giant Bomb. We're a bunch of 48 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,120 Internet video game dufaces. 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Hello YouTube, All right, we have a 70 00:03:12,479 --> 00:03:14,000 lot to get into, so let's start. 71 00:03:14,039 --> 00:03:16,199 Speaker 2: Do you say loutube all week? I hope you did? 72 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,479 He said, at least once? Yeah, okay, good, at least once. 73 00:03:19,479 --> 00:03:20,759 Speaker 1: We have a lot to get into, So let's start 74 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,840 the morning mess with Games Done Quick raises two point 75 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,840 four million dollars. That's a big number, then cancels in 76 00:03:28,039 --> 00:03:31,319 S and K sponsorship after community backlash. I kind of 77 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,919 vaguely saw this as I think I was driving, Jason. 78 00:03:35,319 --> 00:03:37,639 I know you had some thoughts, but kind of let's 79 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,919 let's break it down real quick. Summer Games Done Quick 80 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,759 did conclude after raising two million, four hundred eighty seven 81 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,680 hundred one dollars for Doctors without Borders through a week 82 00:03:48,719 --> 00:03:52,360 of speed running hour. Hours after celebrating that result, GDQ 83 00:03:52,479 --> 00:03:54,479 announced that it was excited to partner with S and 84 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,280 K on a sponsored Metal Slug thirtieth anniversary showcase. The 85 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,000 announcement immediately drew criticism because approximately ninety six percent of 86 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,960 S and K is owned by Electronic Gaming Development Company, 87 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,199 a subsidiary of the Mohammed Bin Salman Foundation, which is 88 00:04:09,639 --> 00:04:13,000 the King of Saudi Arabia. Critics argued that the sponsorship 89 00:04:13,039 --> 00:04:17,600 conflicted with gdq's stated support for LGBTQ plus inclusion and 90 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,800 human rights because of the Saudi government's record on those issues. 91 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,240 Less than three hours after announcing the partnership, GDQ stopped 92 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,040 the sponsored stream, said it would not accept S and 93 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,360 K's money, and promised not to work with the company again. 94 00:04:30,439 --> 00:04:33,800 GDQ and acknowledged that it had failed to properly examine 95 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,560 the sponsorship's owner, and said that it would strengthen its 96 00:04:36,639 --> 00:04:38,319 vetting process going forward. 97 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,399 Speaker 2: Jason I said, knew you had some opinions on this. 98 00:04:41,439 --> 00:04:43,199 Speaker 1: How are you feeling about all this as it was 99 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,160 developing and how do you feel about it now? 100 00:04:45,639 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: Well, first, I just want to say that raising two 101 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,240 point four million dollars dollars with doctors without borders should 102 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:52,199 be the headline. 103 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 2: That's what the bigger thing would be, far than bigger 104 00:04:54,079 --> 00:04:54,360 thing here. 105 00:04:54,439 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: Yes, it is quite far, quite by far the bigger 106 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,680 thing and what they should be selling brand for. It 107 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,600 was an absolute week of catharsis for the gaming community 108 00:05:05,639 --> 00:05:09,000 to go and sit and watch these runs and forget 109 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,199 about the rest of the industry as it was burning 110 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,759 down around them. The goodwill that this group has built 111 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,839 over the decades plus decade plus of them doing this 112 00:05:21,959 --> 00:05:25,879 is more than a parent. So then the next day 113 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,680 they had a hiccup. It is what a soccer a 114 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,000 football enthusiast would call an own goal. Yeah it is, 115 00:05:33,439 --> 00:05:37,279 and there's no getting around it. But they immediately fixed 116 00:05:37,319 --> 00:05:39,560 it to the point where they, as you said, shut 117 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,920 it down midstream. Right at one point, there was a 118 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,879 video on SNK's official YouTube channel because they were co 119 00:05:47,959 --> 00:05:51,800 streaming this thing, that said we are canceling this because 120 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,759 we cannot accept your money knowing where it's coming from. 121 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,879 On SNK's YouTube that is not nothing that takes a ball, 122 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,959 yes right at That video since been deleted because of 123 00:06:02,959 --> 00:06:06,160 course it has. And then they immediately turned around. They 124 00:06:06,199 --> 00:06:08,759 read the writing on the wall and they fixed it. 125 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,160 That has to be applauded. Any other company with Lestruthers 126 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,480 would have taken the one time partnership been like oop, 127 00:06:16,519 --> 00:06:18,959 see sorry guys, but we got the money now, and 128 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,079 that would have been at These guys shut it down 129 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:27,360 e fuckingmediately, and that has to be applauded. I know 130 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,319 some folks involved with GDQ behind the scenes. I spoke 131 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,800 to them. They said, and I believe them that they 132 00:06:34,079 --> 00:06:37,680 did not know about SNK's ownership. And some people might 133 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,560 think that that's a little weird, right, They may say, 134 00:06:40,759 --> 00:06:42,079 how could they not know that? 135 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,079 Speaker 2: But let me ask you a question. 136 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,199 Speaker 3: There is this thing that they may not have to 137 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,480 worry about that all of us in this journalism, game 138 00:06:49,519 --> 00:06:53,079 industry following circle have to be and that's Paul being 139 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,079 terminally online. 140 00:06:55,199 --> 00:06:56,319 Speaker 2: They don't have to do that. 141 00:06:56,399 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 3: Their focus is on the runners who bring them the games, 142 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,120 their folks us is on the charities that they're going 143 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,879 to be supporting. They are a non profit. They have 144 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,160 a whole separate set of ideals. So if they're if 145 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,079 the people who are making these decisions see SNK Metal Slug, 146 00:07:12,639 --> 00:07:15,639 they're gonna go, holy shit, that's a legacy brand bringing 147 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,839 us a legacy game for a big anniversary. They're going 148 00:07:18,879 --> 00:07:20,839 to jump on that for the opportunity to gain a 149 00:07:20,839 --> 00:07:23,319 little bit of extra money to keep their message going. 150 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,279 They're not going to Google. Hmm huh, I wonder who 151 00:07:27,319 --> 00:07:29,959 owns SNK. Maybe we should figure that out. That they 152 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,839 knew sk minds. I mean, they knew s and k is. 153 00:07:32,839 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: They're the company made those cool games, you know, for 154 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:36,360 last year, you're them. 155 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,439 Speaker 3: It's the game. It's the people who made metal slugs. 156 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,240 So it makes perfect sense. They're not thinking about the 157 00:07:41,279 --> 00:07:45,000 things that you or I or other people know because 158 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,480 they're thinking about how can we use this to further. 159 00:07:47,319 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: Our our charity? Right? Yeah, so yes it is an 160 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:53,480 own goal. 161 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,759 Speaker 3: Yes it looked bad, but the immediate reversal coupled with 162 00:07:56,879 --> 00:08:01,079 the immediate apology to me, they I've earned enough goodwill, 163 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,000 as I said, to be able to I don't want 164 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,839 to say get away with it, but to have to 165 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,879 shown the contrition that they did that we take them 166 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:09,639 at their word. 167 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:10,639 Speaker 2: This is not a big bad. 168 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: Corporation saying that we're sorry we laid off thirty two 169 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,160 hundred people. That's not what this is. This is a 170 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,680 group of people running a charity who made a mistake 171 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,600 and immediately fixed it. And that brings me to my 172 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,439 second point. If you were one of those people, if 173 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,480 you're in this chat right now and you were one 174 00:08:25,519 --> 00:08:28,360 of those people who said nothing they've ever done is 175 00:08:28,399 --> 00:08:31,639 good because of this, they're dead to me, fuck you 176 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,399 kind of simple, fuck you man. That So I don't 177 00:08:35,399 --> 00:08:36,960 mean to keep interrupting you. It just really keeps me 178 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:42,440 up because the like, they're humans doing human things, making 179 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:43,279 a human mistake. 180 00:08:43,519 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: It happened, they fixed it. 181 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 3: It's over for you to then say that hundreds of 182 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,559 there are tens of millions of dollars that they've raised 183 00:08:49,759 --> 00:08:52,679 for prevent cancer and doctors without borders doesn't mean a 184 00:08:52,759 --> 00:08:57,200 damn thing because of one sponsored stream. I hope your 185 00:08:57,279 --> 00:09:00,679 loyalties to your friends are not as flimsy as they 186 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,960 are to this. I bet your fun at parties too. 187 00:09:03,279 --> 00:09:04,919 Fuck off, That's all I gotta say. 188 00:09:05,159 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we like it's it's also like the 189 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,559 easiest thing in the world, right to just be like, oh, 190 00:09:09,639 --> 00:09:13,440 I did not raise millions of dollars, but I will 191 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,279 sit in judgment of the people doing that. 192 00:09:15,639 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 2: Look, we know how this goes. 193 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,039 Speaker 1: You build two point four million bridges, you take one, 194 00:09:20,799 --> 00:09:22,960 you know, a thing from MBS, and you are a 195 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,240 friend of MBS. You're not a bridge builder, right Like, Yeah, 196 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:26,799 Like that's that's how it always goes. 197 00:09:26,879 --> 00:09:28,799 Speaker 2: It's so easy for that to wipe this stuff away. 198 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,799 Speaker 1: But yeah, I do think like we could be a 199 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,399 little bit more mature about it and just sit back 200 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,240 and think about it a little bit more and and 201 00:09:36,279 --> 00:09:38,879 be like, ah, I got nothing, nothing's gonna wipe away 202 00:09:38,879 --> 00:09:40,720 all the good this this, this team is done at 203 00:09:40,799 --> 00:09:41,679 least nothing. 204 00:09:41,399 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: Of this level. 205 00:09:42,279 --> 00:09:44,639 Speaker 1: And they corrected it fast enough. I just feel like 206 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:45,879 we can be adults about it. 207 00:09:46,399 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 3: And then even if they did google like who owns it? 208 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,360 It's owned, They're gonna see it's owned by Electric Electronic 209 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:59,200 Gaming Development Company, because that's how the bid Salmon marachine 210 00:09:59,279 --> 00:10:01,320 has white not white well you know what I mean, 211 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,000 like sanitize the name. 212 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,279 Speaker 1: Of their company, trying to do yes, yes. 213 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 3: Yes, Electronic Gaming Development Company. It's a generic name, so 214 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,240 if they have to go the next level to find 215 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,000 that out. It just it breaks my heart that after 216 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:20,240 a week of such goodwill and good vibes and good things, 217 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:25,440 the trans writes the Wind and the crowd, the amazing 218 00:10:25,919 --> 00:10:29,320 heartfelt message from Spike Vegeta, after that Gaza Mini doct 219 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,440 that Doctors without Borderstone, that anybody is going to the 220 00:10:33,519 --> 00:10:34,919 one thing that things that people are going to think 221 00:10:34,919 --> 00:10:37,399 about first about summer games done quick, at least for 222 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,679 a little while. Is this controversy right after And it 223 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,759 fucking sucks. I feel really bad for them. 224 00:10:43,919 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: And now it's and I again I get well how 225 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,519 this happens. People are like living their lives feeling under 226 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,639 assault in every way from every corner, and and they 227 00:10:54,799 --> 00:10:56,799 just want to feel like everyone's you know, the people 228 00:10:56,879 --> 00:10:59,080 they believe in are on their side, and so any 229 00:10:59,159 --> 00:11:04,279 small betrayal feels like a complete betrayal. And and so 230 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,320 it's tough. But I do think that we kind of 231 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,720 get into this we I don't know, we get into 232 00:11:10,759 --> 00:11:14,559 the situation where we see people slip up, and it's like, 233 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,600 let's this is someone that will listen to me. This 234 00:11:17,759 --> 00:11:19,440 is someone where where I can I know I can 235 00:11:19,519 --> 00:11:22,440 hurt them. So let's make it clear, don't betray me, 236 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:28,759 because this really does hurt. And people should be able 237 00:11:28,759 --> 00:11:31,279 to criticize who they want and and people should be 238 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,559 able to say, like if they're disappointed in something. But 239 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,399 it's also it also feels like we know that these 240 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,240 massive corporations won't listen, and we know that things are 241 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:41,840 going to keep getting worse and worse, and we know 242 00:11:41,919 --> 00:11:45,279 that economic inequality is as bad as bad as it's 243 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,600 been in our lifetimes, and it looks like it's only 244 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,360 going to get worse than the next little bit. And 245 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,000 that's feeling all of these problems and all these not 246 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,559 just anxieties but true, true problems that people are having 247 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,200 around the world. And when we feel like someone will listen, 248 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:00,919 I get it's like, Okay, I'm gonna go make a 249 00:12:00,919 --> 00:12:04,360 difference here. It often in backfires, I think it often 250 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,519 it doesn't like accomplish what we're trying to accomplish. 251 00:12:06,519 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 2: It sort of just keeps us apart. 252 00:12:07,759 --> 00:12:11,039 Speaker 3: But yeah, I just want to be clear when in 253 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,679 the moment when it was happening, people were expressing their disappointment, 254 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:18,159 that's not my problem. They you had every justification to 255 00:12:18,159 --> 00:12:18,799 be disappointed. 256 00:12:18,879 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: I was disappointed. I thought it's corst But the. 257 00:12:22,279 --> 00:12:26,519 Speaker 3: Way that they turned it around I think shows the 258 00:12:26,639 --> 00:12:29,240 quality of not only the organization but the people running it. 259 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think so that's all. That's it. 260 00:12:32,879 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: Uh Yeah, two point four million dollars raise and they're 261 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:36,679 gonna they're gonna keep it going. 262 00:12:36,759 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 2: This is a it's just such a great I mean. 263 00:12:38,279 --> 00:12:40,799 Speaker 1: I've been to I went to awesome Games Done Quick, 264 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,039 the last one, uh in Pittsburgh, and it's just such 265 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,519 an amazing thing. It's really it does come down to 266 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,919 the people, the runners and the work that those teams 267 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,720 over at GDQ do to make sure that those people 268 00:12:52,759 --> 00:12:54,399 can be on display and do their thing. 269 00:12:54,279 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 2: And feel comfortable and safe. 270 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: Is incredible and should still be the headline, like above 271 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,679 everything else and above sometimes the money raised. It's like 272 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,759 this is a strong positive outlet for a lot of 273 00:13:05,759 --> 00:13:09,399 cool people who do not have awesome outlets for them 274 00:13:09,639 --> 00:13:13,759 to show their their capabilities and their passions and a 275 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:18,600 lot of other aspects of life. And the atmosphere is 276 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,080 unrivaled at a gd. 277 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,279 Speaker 3: They do, and they do a lot more than just that. 278 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,279 They do Games Done Queer, they do the the the 279 00:13:25,519 --> 00:13:28,639 black led streams. The name is eluding me at the moment. 280 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,360 They showed the mole at the end of the summer 281 00:13:30,399 --> 00:13:32,519 Games Done Quick. It's not just a d g Q, 282 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,159 A GDQ and s GDQ. They do hot fixes throughout 283 00:13:35,159 --> 00:13:36,919 the year, which is why I think how they were 284 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,960 pitching this one. If I can flash black in a 285 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:45,120 flash there it is thank you. Yeah, they're worth supporting 286 00:13:45,159 --> 00:13:47,799 because of what they do. And you know, were none 287 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,639 of us perfect. They had they had a hiccup, they 288 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:51,840 fixed it. 289 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:52,519 Speaker 2: It's what we. 290 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 3: Should see in organizations like this. I really I get 291 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,320 nothing else to say. Sorry, I kind of took over 292 00:13:58,360 --> 00:13:59,039 the show what's next? 293 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: Please, man, I'm still on island time, Jason. You can 294 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,279 do what you need to do to help me get 295 00:14:04,279 --> 00:14:06,320 back in the flow of things. All right, let's get 296 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,759 to the next one. UK retail group condemns PlayStation decision 297 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,639 to stop making discs. Man that this is not going 298 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:14,440 away for Sony. 299 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 2: Huh. 300 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: This is from Chris Scollen at FGC, the UK trade 301 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:22,039 organization for Physical and Digital Entertainment Sales, has criticized Sony's 302 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,399 decision to stop making disc versions of PlayStation games. So 303 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,919 it announced earlier this month that it will stop producing 304 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,360 physical discs for all PlayStation five games during or starting 305 00:14:31,399 --> 00:14:34,279 in January twenty twenty eight, and that only games released 306 00:14:34,279 --> 00:14:36,320 in twenty twenty seven or earlier will be able to 307 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:41,559 reprint physical discs now. The Entertainment Retailers Association, which defines 308 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:46,000 its role as championing the retailers and digital services who 309 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,399 connect music, video and game creators with UK fans, has 310 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,759 condemned the decision, as reported by the Game Business, saying 311 00:14:52,759 --> 00:14:56,960 it harms players and retailers. PlayStation's announcement that major games 312 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,639 will no longer be available on disc is a triumph 313 00:14:59,799 --> 00:15:01,039 of corporate convenience. 314 00:15:01,159 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: Over consumer choice. 315 00:15:02,759 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: CEO Kim Bailey said in a statement, every year, millions 316 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,679 of gamers will still choose to buy physical copies because 317 00:15:08,679 --> 00:15:11,360 they value true ownership. A disc can be shared with family, 318 00:15:11,399 --> 00:15:15,639 traded in, collected, preserved, and crucially still played years from now. 319 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:20,159 A download license often offers none of those freedoms. According 320 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,399 to the er, whose partners include Game, which is a 321 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,720 retailer in the UK, HMV ASDA, Morrison's consumer data shows 322 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,960 that a quarter of those under twenty five used discs, 323 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,639 and a total disc based games market was valued at 324 00:15:33,679 --> 00:15:37,799 over three hundred million pounds last year, demonstrating that that 325 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,200 there remains a substantial and committed audience for box games. 326 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:42,759 And I think this is where we kind of like 327 00:15:43,159 --> 00:15:43,960 how the story. 328 00:15:43,759 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 2: Keeps evolving, Jason, Where. 329 00:15:46,519 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: Like, early on this was happening, and I think a 330 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,279 lot of people remembered a couple of numbers in their 331 00:15:51,279 --> 00:15:54,080 head of like, isn't it like ninety percent digital versus 332 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,759 ten percent physical? And it's like we broke those numbers 333 00:15:56,799 --> 00:15:58,600 down a little bit more. Everyone started looking a little 334 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,600 bit closer, and it's like, yeah, that's like all games, 335 00:16:00,639 --> 00:16:03,679 including games that are digital only, and sometimes that includes 336 00:16:03,759 --> 00:16:05,039 DLC and some other stuff. 337 00:16:05,759 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: When you really look at a split. 338 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,679 Speaker 1: For any game that has a has a physical and 339 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,559 a digital option, and the physical option it was widely 340 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,840 available at launch, it's much closer to fifty percent and 341 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,240 and and there's a variation in between where it's like 342 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,840 sometimes it's it's eighty twenty and the eighties the digital, 343 00:16:25,879 --> 00:16:29,360 and sometimes it's sixty forty and the sixty is the physical, 344 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,559 And it's like, okay, wait, so wait what then why 345 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,759 is this happening? And it really comes down to the problem. 346 00:16:36,759 --> 00:16:38,440 I mean, it comes that back to that same quote 347 00:16:38,519 --> 00:16:41,440 Jason that we mentioned on almost every episode of the 348 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,480 CFO of PlayStation a few months back, saying that the 349 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,120 pathway forward for now is to make more money from 350 00:16:49,159 --> 00:16:52,840 the audience that already exists on for PlayStation, monetizing them 351 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,279 more and more, and that means getting a higher profit 352 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,759 margin from them. And and that does mean let's cut 353 00:16:58,759 --> 00:17:00,720 out the disc, let's cut out the red tailor, let's 354 00:17:00,799 --> 00:17:03,799 go all PlayStation network, all PlayStation store. And if we 355 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,119 do that, we're gonna see somewhere between three to ten 356 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,839 percent increase in profit margin. I'd say, oh, okay, so 357 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,680 we're doing all of this so you could squeak out 358 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,640 a few extra percentage points of growth. And the answer 359 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,640 just flat out is yes. So gaming's gonna get worse 360 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,799 so that they can find some area to make. 361 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 2: A little bit more money. 362 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,039 Speaker 1: And I like, I think I said this on a 363 00:17:27,079 --> 00:17:31,039 show with Sean before I left that it's like, man, 364 00:17:31,079 --> 00:17:33,160 why does it feel like we have no say in 365 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,319 the way our lives go? Why does it feel like 366 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,160 we like we all want something, even those of us 367 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:38,880 that are digital. 368 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: I I'm all digital. 369 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: I want the physical to remain because it creates price 370 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,319 competition in a way that you just won't have if 371 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,039 it does go away. Uh, that's what I want. It's 372 00:17:48,079 --> 00:17:50,599 what the majority of people seem to want. And yet 373 00:17:50,799 --> 00:17:53,160 the majority of people wanting something has nothing to do 374 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,599 with the reality that we're gonna get and it feels 375 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,279 like what can we do? And on PlayStation side of things, 376 00:17:59,279 --> 00:18:02,960 they're planning JA is to wait this out. That's the reporting. 377 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,000 They're like, we're just gonna let the storm pass. We're 378 00:18:05,039 --> 00:18:07,119 not gonna like say anything else, We're just gonna kind 379 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,240 of stick to this and let it pass. 380 00:18:10,079 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 2: And that is a hubrist we've seen before, and it's 381 00:18:13,279 --> 00:18:13,680 a hubos. 382 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: We've seen backfire repeatedly in this industry specifically. How do 383 00:18:18,519 --> 00:18:20,000 you think this is playing out? What do you think 384 00:18:20,039 --> 00:18:20,680 happens next? 385 00:18:21,039 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 3: I think I think ultimately if I had to predict, 386 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,240 and maybe this is glass half full, but I do 387 00:18:28,279 --> 00:18:31,720 not think we get to twenty twenty eight without the 388 00:18:31,799 --> 00:18:34,920 reversing course. And I don't know if it's going to 389 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:40,519 take litigation for or federal not necessarily American federal, but 390 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:45,279 federal action somewhere else in the world where it becomes 391 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,319 unfeasible for them to do discs in some places and 392 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,359 not do it in others. It's either all or nothing, 393 00:18:50,599 --> 00:18:51,839 and they have to do it there. You know what 394 00:18:51,839 --> 00:18:56,440 I'm saying, because as they mentioned here and as mentioned here, 395 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,640 it's collectibility, it's sharing with her family, its ownership. But well, 396 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,160 that's the and some people choose to buy physical copies. 397 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,640 Some people have to buy physical copies because the infrastructure 398 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,680 is just not there. They could want to download, like 399 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,559 imagine someone on PlayStation downloading Call of Duty in a 400 00:19:14,599 --> 00:19:18,319 place where internet is like not what it is in 401 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,960 an urban area, like in the middle of the farmland, right, 402 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,920 it could take them three days because those games are 403 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,839 one hundred and twenty friggin gigs. I'm being facetious. That's 404 00:19:26,839 --> 00:19:30,640 a bit of an exaggeration, but it this is a 405 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,359 real thing. You are basically cutting out a portion of 406 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,480 your audience for what three to ten percentage points of profit, 407 00:19:38,559 --> 00:19:43,039 like you said, on data that you have apparently fudged. 408 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,359 As you said earlier, it's not quite as clear cut 409 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,039 as you're making it out to be. So they're going 410 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,039 to keep taking these hits. Eventually, those hits are going 411 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,519 to start coming from an official place, from some official places, 412 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,119 if the world ever, you know, it's going to take 413 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:00,880 a lot, and this is the last half full. Like 414 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:05,079 I said, I am probably very much in the minority 415 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:10,319 in this opinion, but I strongly believe that this is 416 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:15,000 not actually going to happen because I think people have 417 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:18,119 a very short attention span now right, it's very clear 418 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,160 that the controversy of the moment happens and then it 419 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,880 goes away. This is not going away. Yeah, it has 420 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,519 not gone away. I don't think it has any chance 421 00:20:27,559 --> 00:20:28,279 of going away. 422 00:20:28,559 --> 00:20:30,519 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's it's it's the exact sort 423 00:20:30,519 --> 00:20:35,079 of equivalent of the moment that Microsoft revealed the Xbox 424 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,640 One and it's some and in some ways it could 425 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,039 be a lot worse. The problem is the issue that 426 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,160 here's where it's like I'm like, I'm with you up 427 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,000 to a point and then I diverge. Here, We're just 428 00:20:45,079 --> 00:20:47,279 gonna skip to this next story. We'll come back to 429 00:20:47,319 --> 00:20:50,519 God War here in a moment. Xbox could reveal just 430 00:20:50,559 --> 00:20:53,480 to Digital this week. This is from Darren Bonfius at GameSpot. 431 00:20:53,519 --> 00:20:56,160 The future is looking increasingly increasingly digital for next gen 432 00:20:56,279 --> 00:20:59,559 video game consoles, but one method that might ease the transition, 433 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,720 excuse me, is a disc to digital service that allows 434 00:21:02,759 --> 00:21:04,839 user to bring to bring their libraries with them. We 435 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,599 talked about this before I left the side of this 436 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:11,640 concept of you get a digital sort of certification, authentication 437 00:21:12,039 --> 00:21:14,240 that you can use once you after you put the 438 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,759 disk in your system, and now you kind of own 439 00:21:15,759 --> 00:21:18,279 it digitally until that disk appears in someone else's system. 440 00:21:18,519 --> 00:21:21,839 That's the rumored way it's going to work. Obviously, this 441 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,200 is born out of the original sort of Xbox one 442 00:21:24,279 --> 00:21:27,599 launch where they had a way of marking discs so 443 00:21:27,599 --> 00:21:29,279 they knew which one was which, and they were going 444 00:21:29,319 --> 00:21:31,039 to take entitlements away from you. They were going to 445 00:21:31,079 --> 00:21:33,279 prevent you from selling the disc. So all that stuff 446 00:21:33,319 --> 00:21:35,039 is still lying in wait in the background, and I'm 447 00:21:35,079 --> 00:21:37,160 waiting to see the other shoe drop of, Like the 448 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,200 disc to digital sounds really promising. Is it really going 449 00:21:40,279 --> 00:21:43,160 to be the best version it can be? But whatever, 450 00:21:43,279 --> 00:21:46,440 I want to talk about this in conjunction with SO 451 00:21:46,759 --> 00:21:49,720 Back in twenty thirteen, it was right where where Xbox 452 00:21:49,759 --> 00:21:52,559 reveals the Xbox One and PlayStation four comes out or 453 00:21:52,599 --> 00:21:54,680 place PlayStation comes out and says the PlayStation four is 454 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,519 the exact opposite. We have disc sharing and you can 455 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,839 sell your games and all this stuff. They were there 456 00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:04,240 to counter punch. The question for me is Xbox, for 457 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,640 all of its issues and all of its problems, they 458 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,880 do seem to want these wins, and that's what fueled 459 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,720 them to make some games exclusive again. They listen to 460 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:18,359 some idiots online who want the console wars to keep going. 461 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,319 Despite the fact that both these companies Biggs investors are 462 00:22:21,319 --> 00:22:23,680 the same black Rock and Vanguard and stuff like that. 463 00:22:23,839 --> 00:22:26,240 It's like, man, you guys do not realize what you're 464 00:22:26,279 --> 00:22:30,440 fighting over. It's just the same company. But whatever is 465 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,279 Xbox when they announce this going to say anything about 466 00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:35,880 the future of physical I don't know. 467 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 2: That they are. 468 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,839 Speaker 1: If they do, though, if they come out and say, look, 469 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,039 we're gonna give you just the digital and yeah, blah 470 00:22:43,079 --> 00:22:47,400 blah blah. But we also promised to never stop making discs, 471 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,200 which again I don't know if they're going to do that. 472 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,759 I don't think they're going to do that, but if 473 00:22:51,799 --> 00:22:54,400 they did, it would fall in line with this desire 474 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,160 to get these wins. And if they do so, I 475 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,519 think that is the counter punch that causes Sony to 476 00:22:59,519 --> 00:23:01,880 be like, oh okay, this is not going to go away, 477 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,480 because it's going to be something our you know, kind 478 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,000 of one remaining competitor will keep coming back to and 479 00:23:07,079 --> 00:23:09,640 hitting us on, especially as we are about to launch 480 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,839 a new system and when people are faced with the 481 00:23:11,839 --> 00:23:14,319 decision to make to buy a PS six or a Helix. 482 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,000 This does feel like it can move the needle just 483 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,000 enough for enough people that they have to address it. 484 00:23:20,319 --> 00:23:22,480 But what do you think the chances are that Xbox 485 00:23:22,519 --> 00:23:24,000 is actually going to do that, because I think it's 486 00:23:24,039 --> 00:23:24,559 pretty low. 487 00:23:25,599 --> 00:23:27,759 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, when you frame it that way, I 488 00:23:27,799 --> 00:23:30,680 would agree with you that if it would take something 489 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:35,480 like an Xbox CounterPunch to do that, But I don't know, man, 490 00:23:35,759 --> 00:23:42,079 that desire to be as happy and PR winnings as 491 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,440 as strong as it is at Xbox, they might just 492 00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:49,720 think about doing something like that, or at least framing 493 00:23:49,759 --> 00:23:52,240 disc to digital in a way that makes it seem 494 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,960 like physical is not going away, you know, it's just 495 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,119 however they spin this digit disc to digital system, however 496 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:05,880 it works. I could see them doing that only because 497 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,880 they need the PR victory after the layoffs that already happened, 498 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,160 the layoffs are still coming and all the other nonsense. 499 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:22,799 I think their desire to be uh liked may cause 500 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,240 them to do something like this, you know what I mean. 501 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,119 I maybe twenty five percent one in four chance. I'm 502 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,359 not saying it's ninety nine percent definitely gonna happen. But 503 00:24:31,519 --> 00:24:37,920 I do see a future where that need supersedes anything else, 504 00:24:38,079 --> 00:24:40,720 and they see an opportunity to CounterPunch and they pivot 505 00:24:40,839 --> 00:24:41,519 and they take it. 506 00:24:42,279 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 2: That is feasible to me. 507 00:24:44,519 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, And people point out, yeah, Helix is mostly done. 508 00:24:47,319 --> 00:24:49,960 Can't really change the plans. Now, I will remind you 509 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,000 Xbox one was announced like it was there, and they 510 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,319 had all these plans in place, and then they had 511 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,160 to go in there and change everything back so they 512 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,160 could have the discs work the way that they used to, 513 00:25:01,559 --> 00:25:04,559 and it was it came in very hot and they 514 00:25:04,599 --> 00:25:08,000 had to like adjust on the fly last minute as 515 00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:10,839 they are landing the plane. And so they've done this 516 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,519 before to to try to like fix an air that 517 00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:15,559 they made. 518 00:25:15,759 --> 00:25:17,039 Speaker 2: I think that this would be. 519 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: This would be the situation where if they made a 520 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,240 last minute decision to change it to CounterPunch and have 521 00:25:22,279 --> 00:25:25,680 a chance at making the Xbox brand mean something again, 522 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,440 and this is their last chance to do that. I like, 523 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,599 if I were in charge, that I would do this. 524 00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:36,200 This is like not only is it like okay, like 525 00:25:36,319 --> 00:25:38,160 we will get a bunch of big pr wins, which 526 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,240 again we seem to have like a surprising amount of 527 00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:45,599 care and getting those a surprising desire to get those. 528 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,519 But if Xbox is to be eventually spun off or 529 00:25:49,559 --> 00:25:52,559 sold as like some other brand other than like the 530 00:25:52,599 --> 00:25:54,680 Call of Duties and the minecrafts that get left behind, 531 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,839 one thing that will make it like more valuable to 532 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,960 a potential investor or whatever or whoever's going to buy 533 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,200 it is if there is an audience still buying games 534 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,480 there and uh, if you promise to never stop selling 535 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,119 physical games Now, there's obviously a lot of problems with that. 536 00:26:11,599 --> 00:26:14,519 Optical drives are going to be harder and harder to get, 537 00:26:14,519 --> 00:26:16,519 they are going to be more expensive. We aren't making 538 00:26:16,519 --> 00:26:19,319 a ton of those. But Microsoft can solve that. They 539 00:26:19,319 --> 00:26:22,559 can put they're putting all their money in building data centers. 540 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,960 Take just some of that money and say we're going 541 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,799 to buy one of the companies that's producing optical drives, 542 00:26:28,839 --> 00:26:31,440 and we'll keep doing that forever, Like we will never 543 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,480 stop making discs or switch for the next system. You 544 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,720 can be like, okay, we'll sell an external disk drive. 545 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,359 We'll do our best to keep making those, but we'll 546 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,279 switch to to game cards the way that Nintendo. 547 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: Has game key cards. 548 00:26:43,279 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: Game key cards right cards were already to settle for 549 00:26:47,799 --> 00:26:51,960 game key cards. It's based on this. So it's like, yeah, 550 00:26:52,079 --> 00:26:53,400 they need to find something. 551 00:26:53,559 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: Now. Again, I don't think they will. 552 00:26:55,759 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: I'm on the I'm with you where it's like one 553 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,440 in four chance, one in five chants. I am on 554 00:27:00,519 --> 00:27:03,000 the other side of fifty percent, and so I don't 555 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:03,759 think that they will. 556 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:04,799 Speaker 2: But they should. 557 00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: They absolutely should, and it would it would make a 558 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:08,400 big difference here. 559 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 3: From a cold corporate perspective. They could sell two consoles, 560 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:12,680 one with a disc and one without. 561 00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yes, and it's uh, you know, and 562 00:27:15,559 --> 00:27:17,240 the disc trip doesn't have to be built in. They 563 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,440 could sell it separately. But again, just guarante say the words. 564 00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:23,119 We guarantee we will always have a physical option and 565 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,680 your discs will always work and and well, and we'll 566 00:27:26,759 --> 00:27:28,960 keep selling discs of our games, and we'll offer away 567 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,240 for third parties to keep selling discs for their games, 568 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,759 and we'll never stop until it becomes literally physically impossible. 569 00:27:35,759 --> 00:27:38,559 And even then we'll try to solve. We find some solution, 570 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,880 and if they do that, they've like the story shifts 571 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,559 very quickly. Now it's Microsoft. They're a bunch of buffoons. 572 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,680 They really are that. You know, all the stories of 573 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,759 the leadership over there. I've heard for years that it's 574 00:27:51,799 --> 00:27:53,680 like you try to work in that system inside of 575 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,480 Microsoft and Xbox and you look around and it's just 576 00:27:56,599 --> 00:27:59,680 middle managers everywhere you look, who have no vision, no 577 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,759 idea of what to do. And you know, they've laid 578 00:28:02,759 --> 00:28:05,559 off a lot of people who make games. Did those 579 00:28:05,599 --> 00:28:09,319 people go anywhere? I hope they went before the people 580 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,160 who actually make the games and too, But you know, 581 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,839 we'll see. Well again, I'm very skeptical that that'll go 582 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,799 down this way. All right, let's wrap up the physical 583 00:28:21,079 --> 00:28:22,920 game talk with this one real quick. God of War 584 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,359 Studio confirms the Law Fay will have a disc version. 585 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,079 This is from Andy Robinson at VGC. God of War 586 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,279 developer Sony Santa Monica has confirmed that its next entry 587 00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:37,279 will be available on disc, following this month's controversial announcement 588 00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:40,200 that PlayStation will end physical media production. 589 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: The news, which came in the form of a. 590 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,119 Speaker 1: Twitter post simply stating that God of War Law fe 591 00:28:45,119 --> 00:28:48,000 will be available on disc, has also seemingly revealed that 592 00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:50,920 the release window for the game will be before January 593 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,599 twenty twenty eight. Right, because no game that comes out 594 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,519 after January twenty twenty eight can have a disc. There's 595 00:28:56,519 --> 00:28:58,799 not going to be exceptions. According to Sony, it's flat 596 00:28:58,839 --> 00:29:02,680 out across the board, no more discs after that point, 597 00:29:02,759 --> 00:29:05,480 and unless you came out before that point, they can't 598 00:29:05,519 --> 00:29:06,359 reissue the discs. 599 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,519 Speaker 2: They won't reprint them. 600 00:29:07,839 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: That will only be for games that came out before 601 00:29:09,799 --> 00:29:12,359 January twenty twenty eight. So okay, yeah, we kind of 602 00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:13,960 had an idea this game was going to try to 603 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,319 come out in twenty twenty seven. But I think I'm 604 00:29:17,359 --> 00:29:20,240 more interested in the fact that here's a studio saying no, yeah, 605 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,079 we're gonna be on disc. 606 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:21,799 Speaker 2: Don't worry. 607 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,359 Speaker 1: Like they still know it's a selling point, they know 608 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,160 it's a positive check mark for their game. And it's 609 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,079 a Sony studio going out there saying this. It feels like, man, 610 00:29:32,359 --> 00:29:35,240 people inside that house must be yelling at them, being. 611 00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:37,359 Speaker 2: Like, you can't, like this is so stupid. 612 00:29:38,119 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: Just let it naturally decline like it was going to anyhow, 613 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,480 and keep offering options for people, because we know that 614 00:29:45,519 --> 00:29:47,160 when we say this, there will be a group of 615 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,559 people that'll be very excited. 616 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,839 Speaker 2: And that group is not insubstantial. Right. No, two things. 617 00:29:53,839 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 3: One, I hope Lafay doesn't get delayed into January twenty 618 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,039 twenty eight because that would be awkward or later. And secondly, 619 00:30:01,119 --> 00:30:03,960 this presents an opportunity, all right, God of War fans, 620 00:30:04,319 --> 00:30:09,200 PlayStation fans, hear me, see me, look at me? Buy 621 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,160 this game physically. Yeah, even if they offer you a 622 00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:18,400 three to five day digital early access whatever, you buy 623 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,160 this game physically, and it's the only way you buy it. 624 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,279 You want to make a you want to make a 625 00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:28,359 statement they are gift wrapping you the ability to make 626 00:30:28,519 --> 00:30:34,640 that statement right here with this major franchise the next 627 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:39,759 game in the major franchise disc only if you want 628 00:30:39,759 --> 00:30:43,000 to show them that this is a big mistake. Now, granted, 629 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,960 it'll probably come out in November, so they'll have two 630 00:30:46,079 --> 00:30:48,920 months to It'll only be two months worth of data 631 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,000 and that won't be enough, and they'll still do it anyway, 632 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,319 But fuck that, do it because they are like I said, 633 00:30:54,319 --> 00:30:59,400 they're gift wrapping you this with GTA. I would say GTA, 634 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,799 but there are too many people who are not involved 635 00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:06,079 in hardcore video gaming, like where that is a very 636 00:31:06,119 --> 00:31:07,000 much a casual game. 637 00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: You're going to buy Keen of Box, remember, so it's 638 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,079 like that won't have the same. 639 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 3: Effect, right exactly, buy this disc and show them that 640 00:31:15,319 --> 00:31:19,680 this is how you want your games. And that's really 641 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,160 the only advice I can give you here. I am 642 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,119 excited for this game. I have been since I saw it. 643 00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:27,440 I'm excited for this panel to learn more about it, 644 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,480 and I will be buying it as a disc. 645 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 2: On day one. 646 00:31:33,319 --> 00:31:35,359 Speaker 1: Like you mentioned, there's a panel happening at San Diego 647 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,240 Comic Con. Yes, yeah, yeah, I thought I thought I 648 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,400 said that. Sorry, I think said that I was. I 649 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:47,960 was putting words in your mouth. But yeah, so if 650 00:31:48,359 --> 00:31:51,960 you take the opportunity here, same with Wolverine, great point 651 00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:56,000 Merrick seven sixty, that's an even sooner opportunity. Wolverine on disc. 652 00:31:56,839 --> 00:32:01,839 That's how you buy it. Show them this, turn those 653 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,720 metrics in the other direction and maybe we'll see something. 654 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 2: But I don't know. 655 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 3: Good for them, And I agree with you that the 656 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,519 internal studios of Sony are probably looking at the C 657 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,200 suite like, what the fuck are you guys doing? Are 658 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:21,200 you insane? I there's so much of the left hand 659 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,480 not knowing what the right hand is doing or needs 660 00:32:24,079 --> 00:32:29,079 this fucking industry. It is insane to me. And unfortunately, 661 00:32:29,079 --> 00:32:30,720 the left hand is the one holding all the money 662 00:32:30,759 --> 00:32:33,160 and making all decisions, and the right hand is the 663 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,359 one left holding the bag. 664 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,039 Speaker 1: Yep, it's a yeah, it's it's it's very frustrating. And 665 00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:41,759 then you, uh, we just know that like when we 666 00:32:41,799 --> 00:32:43,559 go in there and we try to vote with our wallets, 667 00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:47,680 we're gonna see uh them be like yeah, but we 668 00:32:48,039 --> 00:32:50,720 care more about our profit margins. We think that's more important, 669 00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:53,640 and we also think we can still make you guys 670 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,839 do what we want and uh again, like that is 671 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,640 just backfired every time, and I think he has to 672 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,960 keep back firing to the point where, you know, they 673 00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:05,680 might not notice if we if we buy that physical 674 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,559 I hope they do, but they will notice if people 675 00:33:08,599 --> 00:33:11,240 are like less excited about the PS six, they're worried 676 00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:13,599 about that, they're worried about launching the PS six. They 677 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,200 have no cards left other than exclusives, and that's why 678 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,240 the PC ports have stopped. That's the one card that 679 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,880 they're ready to play is some exclusives. And I think 680 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,839 people need to carry that disappointment forward into that system 681 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,880 and be like, hey, if I can't buy these exclusives physically, 682 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,160 I am inherently less interested in them. 683 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that. 684 00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:36,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's gonna be a long term project for 685 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,400 people to sort of force this point. 686 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 2: But we'll see. 687 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: All right, We're going to take a break. When we 688 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,039 come back, plenty more headlines to get into. In fact, 689 00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:46,319 there is one more about a physical game, but this 690 00:33:46,359 --> 00:33:48,839 one's a positive story, so we'll get to that after 691 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,279 this break. If you want to skip out on these messages, 692 00:33:51,319 --> 00:33:53,839 you can do so. Go to GiantBomb dot com, Slash join. 693 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,440 If you become a Premium member, there's ad free versions 694 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,559 of the shows you can get there. 695 00:33:57,799 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 2: We will be right back. 696 00:34:05,799 --> 00:34:07,799 Speaker 1: All right, we are back ats Game Mess Mornings. That's 697 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,960 Jason Finelli. I'm Jeff Grub. Let's continue on here with 698 00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:15,079 Rhythm Heaven Groove opens at nearly four hundred thousand retail 699 00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:16,599 copies sold in Japan. 700 00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 2: This is from. 701 00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: Salamano, Salamano, excuse me at Kamatsu. Fintsu has published its 702 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,400 estimated physical game software data for Japan for the week 703 00:34:24,519 --> 00:34:27,440 of June twenty ninth, twenty twenty six to July fifth, 704 00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:31,280 twenty twenty six. Rhythm Heaven Groove for Switch was the 705 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,199 highest selling new release of the week, opening at They 706 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,840 actually missfrended this. I know that they copied this wrong, 707 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,599 and I meant to fix that. I have the answer 708 00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:39,079 over here. 709 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:39,639 Speaker 2: It's yes. 710 00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:42,519 Speaker 1: It was like three hundred and ninety six thousand copies 711 00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:47,599 and that's just physical and that's just Japan, and that's 712 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,599 basically I mean. And it's been sometimes since then, so 713 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,000 they're probably well over a half million copies sold just physically. 714 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 2: How do you ignore that, Jason? How do you like? 715 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:58,280 How do you like? 716 00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,559 Speaker 1: If you're a company, how do you not go like, 717 00:34:59,559 --> 00:35:01,400 we need to get some of that action instead of 718 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,599 go man, instead of going, let's get rid of Physical 719 00:35:05,079 --> 00:35:06,079 because it's it's just. 720 00:35:06,039 --> 00:35:06,599 Speaker 2: Not worth it now. 721 00:35:06,639 --> 00:35:10,159 Speaker 1: I guess Sony has not had as free like they 722 00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:13,079 don't have Rhythm Heaven Grooves that are selling half a 723 00:35:13,079 --> 00:35:16,880 million copies basically in the first couple of weeks physically 724 00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:18,480 in Japan. 725 00:35:18,639 --> 00:35:20,199 Speaker 2: But they do still sell like. 726 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: They are the one company that often does have a 727 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,880 game that charts in Japan on the FIMTSU list. So 728 00:35:27,039 --> 00:35:30,840 they're forgoing that and forsaking that expecting that they cannot 729 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,320 win that back. And it's like, aren't you launching a 730 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,159 handheld next generation? Isn't that going to be something that 731 00:35:36,199 --> 00:35:38,719 reinvigorates the Japanese audience. Don't you want to give those 732 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,599 players something even more excited to be about. And the 733 00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:45,119 answer seems to be no. But clearly Physical is still 734 00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:47,159 doing very well in many circumstances. 735 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 3: Right yeah, And you're saying that they don't have a 736 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,480 rhythm Heaven Groove. That sounds like a them problem, right, 737 00:35:52,519 --> 00:35:56,119 They have a fast library of games, they could have 738 00:35:56,159 --> 00:35:58,880 a rhythm Heaven Groove. I bet there's a there's a 739 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:03,519 game out there where you do the rhythm thing to 740 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,760 classic PlayStation songs, either remixed or what have you, and 741 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,559 you can have a little Astrobot and his pals be 742 00:36:10,679 --> 00:36:13,079 the one Astrobot groove or Astrobot rhythm. 743 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,159 Speaker 2: There. There you go. 744 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 3: You they have free idea, like they they could be 745 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,719 doing this, They could have the b It's like somebody, 746 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,599 it's like I've said a couple of times a post 747 00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:25,719 I read somewhere a long time ago. You can't just 748 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,280 have all home runs, right yeah, because then you're gonna 749 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:29,960 you're gonna score one point at a time. 750 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 2: It's all solo homers. 751 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 3: You gotta put some people on base to really maximize 752 00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:37,280 those big hits. And this is how you do it 753 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,880 with little stuff like this and TOMADATCI Life, which my 754 00:36:41,039 --> 00:36:44,000 family is still playing. My younger, as I said on 755 00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:47,719 Friday with with with Mike, probably one hundred and fifty 756 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,280 hours in that game in a month and a half. 757 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,760 She cannot put it down. Uh, I can't put it down. 758 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,559 If I'm being honest. It's you have to have the 759 00:36:56,639 --> 00:36:59,519 little things to have the big things. As someone just 760 00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:03,679 pointed out, hit they had Patapon. The Patapon is now 761 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,599 coming out self published or the third party is doing 762 00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:08,159 one and two right, it's not them anymore. 763 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: Sony like I think, still has the rights to it, 764 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,079 but they like just let a third party handle it 765 00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:14,480 for whatever reason. 766 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,159 Speaker 3: Who could say do that and just making the PlayStation exclusive. 767 00:37:18,159 --> 00:37:20,519 If you're not gonna do it yourself, pay the publish 768 00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:23,159 to make it a publishing deal. Let some other smaller 769 00:37:23,159 --> 00:37:25,880 studio take a crack at it. Maybe they'll find something 770 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,719 new and innovative and it'll become a huge franchise for you. 771 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,280 Speaker 2: You're just sitting there with your thumbs up, your ass. 772 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,559 Speaker 3: You can be doing this and then but then they'll say, well, 773 00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:37,679 these are budget titles and that's why they're selling. It's 774 00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:41,000 not the eighty dollars premium and the eighty dollars premium 775 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,320 discs don't sell because people can't, you know, they don't 776 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,119 want to spend They will pay them digitally or set 777 00:37:45,199 --> 00:37:48,239 or whatever whatever the friggin excuse will be. They're just 778 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,599 gonna keep moving them goalposts until they get what they 779 00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:52,159 want and then it's gonna blow up on their face. 780 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:53,119 What can you do? 781 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:54,119 Speaker 2: Yep? 782 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: It's and you mentioned Tomadacci Life. I think I had 783 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,960 the full chart over here. I think that is that again, 784 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,280 this is Japan only and this is physical only. It's 785 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:10,320 at one point five million copies sold. Yeah, go on, 786 00:38:11,079 --> 00:38:15,239 just in Japan. That's uh, star Fox is uh the 787 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,440 Starbucks maybe a counter example, that's like, that's been out 788 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,800 a couple of weeks now. Uh, it's only at like 789 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,360 fifty thousand copies sold physically, but that was game. That 790 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,079 game was selling out in a lot of retailers at 791 00:38:25,159 --> 00:38:27,039 least here, maybe the same thing was happening. Maybe they 792 00:38:27,039 --> 00:38:29,400 didn't print a lot of copies of that. Pacopia at 793 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,639 a million copies sold and that's switched to only, right, 794 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,920 So it's like people still buying physical games on Switch 795 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,719 when they are are switched to only, not like Tombadaci Life, 796 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,480 which has a huge built built in install base of 797 00:38:42,559 --> 00:38:44,199 Switch one gamers. 798 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 2: God Animal Cross. 799 00:38:46,039 --> 00:38:49,079 Speaker 1: Guess how many physical copies of Animal Crossing New Horizons 800 00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:52,760 has sold over the years in Japan alone, Jason physical 801 00:38:53,199 --> 00:38:56,760 physical only in Japan in Japan alone. 802 00:38:58,159 --> 00:39:01,599 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna say twelve million. That's sense. 803 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,199 Speaker 1: It's pretty it's eight point five million, which is still huge. 804 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,440 That game was like I think globally that game, and 805 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,880 this includes physical and digital is at like something like 806 00:39:11,039 --> 00:39:12,400 forty five million copies sold. 807 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,079 Speaker 2: That's why I went twelve. I figured it was probably 808 00:39:14,119 --> 00:39:16,559 like a quarter with digital. 809 00:39:16,679 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: It's it's certainly beyond that, Like it's certainly but yeah, 810 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,760 eight point five million physical copies of Animal Crossing New 811 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,880 Horizons sold in Japan for years. All right, that does 812 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,079 it for that. Let's let's keep going here. Pow World 813 00:39:31,159 --> 00:39:33,760 one point zero explodes to more than eight hundred and 814 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,880 fifty five thousand concurrent Steam players. A game has reached 815 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,239 one point zero. It seems to have changed quite a 816 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,360 bit since I played it in the early part of 817 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,960 early access, like most people did. I think that's back 818 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,440 in January twenty twenty four, where it reached an all 819 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,960 time peak of two point one million players. So it's 820 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,519 not at that at those levels, but eight hundred and 821 00:39:51,559 --> 00:39:54,400 fifty five thousand concurrent players for anything across, that's like 822 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,360 one of the top most played games on Steam, like 823 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,519 top five at any one moment. So very impressed of stuff. 824 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,239 Pocket Paris Communication lead called the response staggering. The one 825 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,760 point zero update includes seventy two additional pals, a level 826 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,159 cap increase to eighty five, a reworked story and world, 827 00:40:11,519 --> 00:40:15,960 revised combat, additional base building systems, and a substantial new region. 828 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,280 Any desire to go back to a Powell World, I 829 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,719 probably won't, Jason, although god, I don't know. 830 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 2: I'd never say never. 831 00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 3: In order to go back to it, I would have 832 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,239 had to have gone to it in the first place. 833 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,559 This one, this one passed you by a little bit, 834 00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:30,639 but I have to say, eight hundred and fifty five 835 00:40:30,679 --> 00:40:33,199 thousand people two and a half years after your original launch, 836 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,360 finally going one point zero is the kind of successful 837 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,320 story for an original ip that we should be celebrating, 838 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,199 even if you especially if you add the extra layer 839 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,719 of all of the legal bullshit they were put through 840 00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:52,320 with Nintendo. This is cool, right, good for them. I 841 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,559 hope it continues. I hope they continue to have a 842 00:40:55,599 --> 00:41:01,639 substantial player base that takes them to like the gold 843 00:41:01,679 --> 00:41:05,719 standard for me. Right, for a game like this, people 844 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,960 would say Fortnite, that's like the that's completely different because 845 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,760 that hit the cultural zechgeist. That one huge. The gold 846 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,239 standard for me in a situation like this is war Frame. 847 00:41:16,159 --> 00:41:20,679 Right have Warframe launched with the PlayStation three in twenty 848 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:27,840 thirteen and has just been there for thirteen years. Just 849 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,920 had ten o'con over the weekend. People still love this game. 850 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,039 They're about they're now about to create this whole new 851 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,400 section of planets, this through star chart called Tao, which 852 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,360 will add so much more to this game. And they 853 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,239 just continue to grow and add things and work with 854 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,559 their community and build a strong community. That's the blueprint 855 00:41:49,639 --> 00:41:51,880 for a game like this. And if Power World can 856 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,760 get there to the point where we're still talking about 857 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,719 it thirteen years from now, good for them. This is 858 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,320 an encouraging start and good for them. 859 00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:00,599 Speaker 2: Yep. Absolutely. 860 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: Let's go to coe Techmo CEO says it grew from 861 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,639 twenty five hundred staff to over three thousand in two years, 862 00:42:07,199 --> 00:42:11,000 and it is aiming for five thousand staff. This is 863 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,880 from Chris Scullion at VGC, the president and CEO of 864 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,519 Cooe Techmo, has detailed the company's plans for continued growth. 865 00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:23,719 In a new interview with Famitsu, Hasashi Koyanuma was asked 866 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,400 about his previously declared aim to become the world's number 867 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:27,960 one digital entertainment company. 868 00:42:28,199 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 2: Koi. 869 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: Numa explained that the aim was to have the highest 870 00:42:31,519 --> 00:42:34,320 operating profit in the games industry, with the first plan 871 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,760 being to reach the top ten by twenty thirty five, 872 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,440 which can only be achieved when customers buy a lot 873 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,119 of games. When asked how Coe Techno planned to release 874 00:42:42,159 --> 00:42:45,199 games frequently enough to achieve this, Koynuma replied that the 875 00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:48,639 company's workforce had grown grown over the past two years, 876 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,840 and the plan was to grow it even further. In 877 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,920 twenty twenty four, Coe Techmo told shareholders that it had 878 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,320 around twenty five hundred staff and wanted to double this 879 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,239 in the future. According to Koynuma, the number has now 880 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,000 passed three thousand and they still want to grow to 881 00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:05,440 five thousand. We are currently expanding our workforce to increase 882 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,639 the number of development lines, he explained. This is via 883 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,320 machine translation. Last year, our group wide headcount grew to 884 00:43:12,559 --> 00:43:15,440 just over twenty to twenty eight hundred and fifty people, 885 00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:17,400 and this year, with one hundred and ninety three new 886 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,480 graduates joining us in Japan alone, our total headcount has 887 00:43:21,519 --> 00:43:25,159 reached approximately three thousand. And then he does go on 888 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:26,920 to say like, yeah, looking ahead, we hope to continue 889 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,840 steadily toward a workforce of five thousand. They're doubling the 890 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,119 size of their of their team making games because they 891 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,960 want to. They want to make a lot of operating profit, Jason, 892 00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:41,440 and their solution there they're plan to do so as 893 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,000 a video game company is to make more video games. 894 00:43:45,559 --> 00:43:50,039 Speaker 2: Could never work. What a concept. It just gets insane 895 00:43:50,199 --> 00:43:51,159 making games. 896 00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:54,760 Speaker 1: Clearly, this just shows that they lack a Western education 897 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,880 that would tell them that that is a stupid idea. 898 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, how dare they decide to give their fans 899 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,280 what they want and that's more content to play through? 900 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,599 Now maybe because of the current climate we are in. 901 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,360 It makes me nervous to see these numbers because I 902 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,400 am afraid that this bubble could burst for them like 903 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,400 it has for so many others. But but it sounds 904 00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:25,000 like they have a slow and steady growth approach and 905 00:44:25,039 --> 00:44:28,400 they have more than enough brands, as is in one 906 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:33,320 of the paragraphs here Dynasty Warriors, Ninja Guide and Dead 907 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,880 or Alive Itelia Nobonaga's ambition. They have a bit of 908 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,440 a portfolio, right they have, and then they could you know, 909 00:44:41,519 --> 00:44:43,400 maybe one off IPI's here and there, and. 910 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 1: They were working Nintendo on a ton of stuff and 911 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:46,199 they probably. 912 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,360 Speaker 3: Don't working with them more. Sounds like the way you 913 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,920 should do it. Yeah, right, it sounds like it should work, 914 00:44:52,519 --> 00:44:57,760 and I am confident in that it remains to be 915 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,280 seen to see. Komi Techmo games aren't exactly my cup 916 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,920 of tea, but they clearly have a loyal fan base 917 00:45:04,039 --> 00:45:06,400 enough to support this growth. 918 00:45:06,639 --> 00:45:09,519 Speaker 2: So good. I hope it works out for them. 919 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like they could be saying the thing 920 00:45:11,519 --> 00:45:14,320 that everyone else is sandwhich is we're going to be 921 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,360 using AI to do more, and they're not. They're saying, 922 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,039 we need more people to make more games, which is 923 00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:18,920 all we're asking for. 924 00:45:19,679 --> 00:45:20,159 Speaker 2: I think on this. 925 00:45:20,119 --> 00:45:22,159 Speaker 1: Show constantly it's like, man, we know what really is 926 00:45:22,159 --> 00:45:25,760 going to get more games made, even if again, all 927 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,360 the biggest promises of AI are true, Like everyone's going 928 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,440 to have access to that, so that has nothing to 929 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,039 do with you standing apart from the rest of the industry. 930 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,920 You're going to be able to do that, and they 931 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,920 are at least acknowledging that. And again, we don't think 932 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,800 AI's biggest promises are actually going to come true at all. 933 00:45:43,519 --> 00:45:46,159 Speaker 2: A smart not smart A small anecdote. 934 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,599 Speaker 3: I have been going down the shore and going to 935 00:45:48,639 --> 00:45:51,000 the pool in the summertime with my family and you 936 00:45:51,039 --> 00:45:54,840 can tell who's using AI for their ads, right, Like 937 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,239 if it pops up on a billboard, or if they 938 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,280 got a flyer somewhere and they. 939 00:45:59,159 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 2: All look the same. 940 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 3: If I put three of these flyers next to each 941 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:07,159 other a passing cursory clan, I don't know who's advertising 942 00:46:07,199 --> 00:46:09,519 what the real estate one is next to the one 943 00:46:09,519 --> 00:46:11,159 for the hot dog is next to the one for 944 00:46:11,199 --> 00:46:11,800 the dairy. 945 00:46:11,639 --> 00:46:14,880 Speaker 1: Queen, but all all blends in Jason, how can that 946 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,800 possibly be true? AI's gonna unlock creativity from everyone, right, 947 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,199 and then everyone's gonna be able to have their own 948 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,159 personality that AI will represent. It's not just gonna regurg 949 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,840 to it the same thing for every person in regardless. 950 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,280 Speaker 2: Of the prompt. That's idea. It's impossible. 951 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 3: How how can anyone say that other than people with 952 00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:34,519 eyes who live in society, And it's. 953 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 1: Like and those are just like flyers, right, that's like 954 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,840 really easy stuff to do yourself in photoshop. 955 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:40,679 Speaker 2: And that's not my point here. 956 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,760 Speaker 1: My point is like, that is something that you should 957 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,719 be able to, like say in a prompt like I 958 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,880 want mine to be like this and go like that, 959 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,079 And yet everyone's looks exactly the same, and we're expecting 960 00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:52,320 it to be able to have a bunch of creativity 961 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,119 to make the next video game that's gonna stand out. 962 00:46:54,159 --> 00:46:57,760 Speaker 2: What a joke? What a joke? What a joke? What 963 00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,679 a joke? It makes no sense to me, and it's 964 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:00,079 just it. 965 00:47:01,159 --> 00:47:03,280 Speaker 3: It makes my heart sink every time I see a 966 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,000 different company using a flyer like this. Now, one one 967 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,679 more quick thing before we moved to the next story. 968 00:47:08,039 --> 00:47:11,480 The name of the CEO, his Ashi Koe Numa, floors 969 00:47:11,559 --> 00:47:18,400 me because this man was the first person I ever 970 00:47:18,559 --> 00:47:23,360 interviewed on video E three, my first ever E three 971 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,599 sixteen years ago, Chat Twitch Chat. 972 00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 2: I just threw it in chat. You could see me 973 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,760 with my full head of hair on my blurry camera. 974 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,519 Speaker 3: Talking about fist to the North Star Ken's rage with 975 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:41,000 this man. That is insane. I hadn't heard that name 976 00:47:41,079 --> 00:47:46,800 but sixteen years years old in that video. 977 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 1: That's okay, it's amazing, all right, that's god. I do 978 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:53,280 love that. 979 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,199 Speaker 2: Like man, why do I know that name? 980 00:47:55,199 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 1: It's oh yeah, I talked to them more than a 981 00:47:57,559 --> 00:47:58,199 decade ago. 982 00:47:58,639 --> 00:48:01,039 Speaker 2: Incredible stuff, all right. 983 00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:03,639 Speaker 1: Last couple of stories here, Black Ops one and two 984 00:48:03,679 --> 00:48:07,320 port players counts dominating Black Ops seven. It's claimed, so 985 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,039 the number of people playing Black Ops one and two 986 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,280 is crushing Black Ops seven. This is from Andrew Heighten 987 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,840 at Insider Game in the recently released to black Ops 988 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,360 one and two ports are allegedly beating black Ops seven 989 00:48:18,639 --> 00:48:21,639 in terms of overall player count, despite the ports being 990 00:48:21,679 --> 00:48:25,519 the og games with next to no improvements, still being pricey, 991 00:48:25,679 --> 00:48:28,960 and only unlimited platforms. I recently covered the interesting reasons 992 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,480 why Black Ops one and two port players thought the 993 00:48:31,519 --> 00:48:33,800 live player count ticker had been removed from both games. 994 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,960 Charlie Intel has claimed that the ports aren't doing well, 995 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,280 which would support this further. 996 00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 2: But you knew it was coming. 997 00:48:39,679 --> 00:48:42,119 Speaker 1: I think this comes from Charlie Intel who this comes 998 00:48:42,119 --> 00:48:45,320 from an unnamed source. The Call of Duty Black Ops 999 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,159 and Black Ops two ports on PlayStation, which just kind 1000 00:48:48,159 --> 00:48:51,280 of shadow dropped out of nowhere, have more players online 1001 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,440 than Black Ops seven does combined on all platforms. So 1002 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,320 just on PlayStation, black Ops one and two has more 1003 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,239 players than Black Ops seven does on all platforms. That is, 1004 00:49:03,079 --> 00:49:05,679 you know, is is this exactly a problem now? I 1005 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,679 think this is working out exactly how the activision wants 1006 00:49:08,679 --> 00:49:11,880 it to, where it's like a Black Ops seven does 1007 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,480 not feel like a real long term winner. This is 1008 00:49:14,519 --> 00:49:16,119 not one that people are going to be looking back 1009 00:49:16,159 --> 00:49:19,880 on like super fondly ten years from now. Let's so 1010 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,519 let's sort of give them something to do while they 1011 00:49:22,599 --> 00:49:25,360 wait for which I believe. The next one is Modern 1012 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,079 Warfare again, which just feels like man again. This will 1013 00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:31,599 be the seventh one, and the first one named four, 1014 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,440 but the seventh modern Warfare. 1015 00:49:34,159 --> 00:49:36,119 Speaker 2: I thank god. That number might not even be right. 1016 00:49:36,159 --> 00:49:39,280 Speaker 3: So technically, technically you're right, but it's Call of Duty 1017 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,320 four was Modern Warfare, and now this is Cold Duty 1018 00:49:42,519 --> 00:49:43,719 Modern Warfare four. 1019 00:49:44,079 --> 00:49:48,360 Speaker 2: Yes, that's what it is. Incredible, all right, let's see here. 1020 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,079 Speaker 1: So I'm not necessarily running back to these games. I've 1021 00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:53,960 had my time with Call of Duty, really really liked 1022 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,079 it back in the day, not playing it much these days, 1023 00:49:56,079 --> 00:49:58,840 but I did. I did perk up when I heard this, 1024 00:49:59,119 --> 00:50:01,320 and I just I'm probably not gonna go turn on 1025 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,360 my PlayStation to play Call of Duty on there. That's 1026 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,599 that's the one thing. So I have been like updated 1027 00:50:06,599 --> 00:50:08,320 across the board. I might have checked it out on 1028 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,840 PC or something. Of course, I could just go play 1029 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,440 this on PC whenever I want, so I'm not sure 1030 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:13,639 in that. 1031 00:50:14,159 --> 00:50:14,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1032 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,880 Speaker 3: No, And the reporting last week is at the ports 1033 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,840 are not great that they're just kind of missing a 1034 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,320 lot of stuff and you got to pay for DLC 1035 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,320 or something like that. People weren't very happy with them, 1036 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,440 but they're still playing them, and yes, especially seems like 1037 00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:30,639 a something to fill in the lost sales of Black 1038 00:50:30,639 --> 00:50:34,119 Ops seven to make the Call of Duty franchise still 1039 00:50:34,159 --> 00:50:36,639 as seen as valuable as it is. You know what 1040 00:50:36,679 --> 00:50:39,960 I mean, It's like an emergency project sort of deal. 1041 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,320 Speaker 1: I got Black Ops one crashes a ton so samo nice. 1042 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:45,400 Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. 1043 00:50:46,599 --> 00:50:49,239 Speaker 1: All right, let's update you guys on what's happening today 1044 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,440 and what's happening tomorrow and maybe even a little bit 1045 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,880 of later this week. So today, Monday, July thirteenth, ascend 1046 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,440 to zero launches and joints game pass. On day one, 1047 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,800 Beholder Conductor arrives on Xbox. I did look up a 1048 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,960 little bit of details on that. Let's see here. Beholder 1049 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:10,639 Conductor is what kind of game is that? Who is 1050 00:51:10,639 --> 00:51:11,480 that a shooter yet? 1051 00:51:11,519 --> 00:51:11,760 Speaker 2: Okay? 1052 00:51:12,679 --> 00:51:17,519 Speaker 1: Totalitarian Train Conductor sim where you inspect passengers, spy on them, 1053 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,840 and decide who to report to the state man. That 1054 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,920 sounds like please, I think so train papers please? Which 1055 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:29,000 is that sounds fun? So that's that arrives on Xbox Online. 1056 00:51:29,039 --> 00:51:31,960 Services for Madden NFL twenty three are scheduled to shut 1057 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,280 down today, so if you want to go back to 1058 00:51:35,559 --> 00:51:38,039 Madden NFL twenty three one last time, get in there. 1059 00:51:38,199 --> 00:51:41,880 And then the Tetris ninety nine Starfox Maximus Cup concludes 1060 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,800 today as well, so if you want to get those, 1061 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,599 they always have cosmetic stuff as part of that. 1062 00:51:46,679 --> 00:51:49,320 Speaker 2: Today's your last chance to do so. Tomorrow. 1063 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,239 Speaker 1: PBA Pro Bowling twenty twenty six joins game Pass. Hell 1064 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,559 Clock launches on PlayStation five and Xbox Series X and 1065 00:51:56,079 --> 00:52:00,280 Hellclock is a Brazilian history inspired action rogue light that 1066 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,159 mixes frantic Diablo style combat and build crafting with tightly 1067 00:52:04,159 --> 00:52:07,000 timed dungeon runs. That sounds cool as well, and it's 1068 00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:12,000 got an incredible name, hell Clock. Dyetopia launches across PlayStation five, 1069 00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:14,599 Xbox Series X, and S Switch to Switch in PC. 1070 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,280 Dytopia is a cozy narrative puzzle adventure about maintaining an 1071 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,880 AI managed utopia on deciding whether engineer whether engineered happiness 1072 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,840 is really freedom and then Ubisoft Barcelona's scheduled Tuesday strike 1073 00:52:27,039 --> 00:52:31,519 continues today, so you definitely give them some shouts they 1074 00:52:31,559 --> 00:52:33,679 are frustrated for being laid off after putting out a 1075 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,920 game that Ubisoft immediately was trumpeting as a massive success, 1076 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,719 so incredibly frustrating as well. 1077 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,360 Speaker 2: And then later this week, let's mention this real quick. 1078 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:47,159 Speaker 1: Sony's expected to reveal July's PlayStation Plus extra and premium editions. 1079 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:47,760 Speaker 2: Syops. 1080 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,480 Speaker 1: The Mindgate conspiracy is already confirmed for the July twenty 1081 00:52:51,519 --> 00:52:54,119 first catalog update. Although I know I saw a lot 1082 00:52:54,159 --> 00:52:57,440 of people canceling their PlayStation Plus after the physical stuff, 1083 00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,159 so you imagine why they do that. 1084 00:53:00,519 --> 00:53:03,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe people aren't gonna care. All right, that does 1085 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:04,599 it for the stories. 1086 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,079 Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and start getting into the wrap up 1087 00:53:08,159 --> 00:53:10,519 of the show. No pull question, because I believe Mike 1088 00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:13,440 did do the Bomb twelve to wrap up last week. 1089 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,559 So if you want to check out the new Bomb twelve, 1090 00:53:16,119 --> 00:53:17,760 you can see that a jibbomb dot com and there's 1091 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:18,519 a vote here button. 1092 00:53:18,519 --> 00:53:21,119 Speaker 2: What happened he reaped the Bomb twelve. 1093 00:53:21,159 --> 00:53:24,519 Speaker 3: At the first thing he said, Sean had to say, no, 1094 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,639 you have the wrong one. There's an updated one. 1095 00:53:27,039 --> 00:53:28,599 Speaker 2: And then we got on this whole. 1096 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,280 Speaker 3: Rant about and Jeff, I have to bring this up 1097 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,559 to you too. The names of your files. Did you 1098 00:53:34,599 --> 00:53:34,920 hear this? 1099 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:36,079 Speaker 2: Oh I'm sure. 1100 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:40,159 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was wondering how he was. Uh, that's 1101 00:53:40,199 --> 00:53:42,079 not really how the bomb twelve works. 1102 00:53:42,159 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 2: What did he say? What did he say? He said? Though? 1103 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:48,679 Speaker 3: So like Monday is called Monday Mornings, Monday Morning mess 1104 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:53,239 run of show, Wednesday is called Wednesday. 1105 00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:55,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I type on Wednesday at my Google search bar 1106 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,480 and it comes up for me every time. 1107 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,280 Speaker 2: That's how I'm doing it too. There's nothing wrong with 1108 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:05,280 this system. The system system, I agree for years. I agree. 1109 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,519 Speaker 3: I'm used to it now. But Mike had some concerns 1110 00:54:08,559 --> 00:54:11,440 and Sean Jan was not there it with Sean, so 1111 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,960 Sean had to hear them too. Thursday is Thursday, GMM, 1112 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,800 and then Friday is Friday. 1113 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,360 Speaker 2: GMM. Run of show? What is the common what's the 1114 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:22,199 common thing? There? 1115 00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:24,400 Speaker 4: The day of the week? You just look for the 1116 00:54:24,639 --> 00:54:25,880 you type in the day of the week and it 1117 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:30,360 pops up. It's actually a great system. It's the rest 1118 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,760 of the words are superfluous. It doesn't matter we have. 1119 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,599 Speaker 1: We don't have anything else that's like day of the 1120 00:54:35,639 --> 00:54:37,880 week coded, so those are the only ones that matter. 1121 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:43,400 Speaker 2: Also, also those those Google docs we don't have ownership 1122 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:44,159 to those anymore. 1123 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,719 Speaker 1: That's that's the funny part. It's like maybe maybe that's 1124 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,360 still fandom mine. I can just copy and like make 1125 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:51,760 our own. 1126 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:52,519 Speaker 2: I haven't done that. 1127 00:54:52,519 --> 00:54:55,360 Speaker 1: Yet because it has not been a problem. 1128 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,679 Speaker 2: What's somewhat filled in for you? Did it become a problem? 1129 00:55:00,039 --> 00:55:02,519 Speaker 1: I definitely like got the text on Friday morning? 1130 00:55:02,599 --> 00:55:03,880 Speaker 2: How do I get the bomb twelve? 1131 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,519 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'll just do it for you. Just hang 1132 00:55:05,559 --> 00:55:06,599 on here, here are the games? 1133 00:55:06,639 --> 00:55:06,960 Speaker 2: There you go. 1134 00:55:07,159 --> 00:55:10,079 Speaker 1: Duck is saying there is a poll question there was 1135 00:55:10,159 --> 00:55:12,440 did you do a poll question for Friday? Okay, all right, 1136 00:55:12,519 --> 00:55:15,480 let's let's see here. I'm going to bring it up 1137 00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:18,920 right now. Go to Giant from there and I will refresh. 1138 00:55:19,079 --> 00:55:21,239 Speaker 2: Duck has now said it three times. I think someone Oh, 1139 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:21,639 here you go? 1140 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:26,079 Speaker 1: Yep, all right, where are most of your digital games? Comment? 1141 00:55:26,119 --> 00:55:28,599 I'm on Epic. If you're Tim Sweeney, Mike forgot to 1142 00:55:28,599 --> 00:55:30,519 post a poll. So it's your boy, Chuck Tawski here 1143 00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:33,280 with the poll for Jeff Grubb to enjoy on Monday. 1144 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,599 So we don't normally do want on Monday, Chuck, But 1145 00:55:35,679 --> 00:55:36,039 thank you? 1146 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:37,119 Speaker 2: All right? 1147 00:55:37,159 --> 00:55:40,519 Speaker 1: So your options were Nintendo, PlayStation, Steam or Xbox. I 1148 00:55:40,519 --> 00:55:42,639 guess most of mine are on Steam, although I have 1149 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,000 quite a bit on all of them. 1150 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,559 Speaker 2: All right, yes, sixty. 1151 00:55:47,559 --> 00:55:49,840 Speaker 3: Okay, I'd love to see the follow up poll of this. 1152 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,840 How many of your digital games have you acted? Where 1153 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,599 do you play most of your digital games? And how 1154 00:55:53,599 --> 00:55:54,760 many of you actually played? 1155 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,800 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly sixty percent say they are on Steam, so 1156 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,880 the vast majority actually then twenty percent on PlayStation, ten 1157 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,079 percent on Xbox, and nine percent on Nintendo. 1158 00:56:07,199 --> 00:56:08,360 Speaker 2: How do you think? What do you think it breaks 1159 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:08,840 down that way? 1160 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,360 Speaker 1: Because for me, it's like when I see that on 1161 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,159 Nintendo nine percent, that's people probably just still like buying 1162 00:56:13,159 --> 00:56:15,360 physical games for their switch and switch to. 1163 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,480 Speaker 3: Well, there's Japan numbers through that, right, Are these these 1164 00:56:19,559 --> 00:56:20,400 letting credence to it? 1165 00:56:21,679 --> 00:56:23,519 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean this, this this tracks. 1166 00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,159 Speaker 3: I think I hate to see that PlayStations above Xbox 1167 00:56:26,199 --> 00:56:28,400 that let's let's get that number down. We're trying to 1168 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,679 get them to keep discs. People stop stop giving them 1169 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,159 reasons not to. Uh, but Steam being the overwhelming favorite. 1170 00:56:34,199 --> 00:56:35,840 I mean, they've been doing digital games. 1171 00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:38,159 Speaker 2: Longer than anybody, so of course, yep makes a lot 1172 00:56:38,199 --> 00:56:38,559 of sense. 1173 00:56:39,119 --> 00:56:42,440 Speaker 1: All right, new pole question here in a second before 1174 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,960 we do that, Jason Finella, tell people where they can 1175 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,880 find you on the internet, what you have going on, 1176 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:47,840 all that good stuff. 1177 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:52,559 Speaker 3: Jasonfidelli dot com on Blue Sky, Big Man, Finelle, everywhere else. 1178 00:56:52,599 --> 00:56:55,599 Big week for you, boy. I'm going to Europe for 1179 00:56:55,639 --> 00:56:59,599 the first time. Oh on on, I'm going to Amsterdam. 1180 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,639 Speaker 2: Yeah four time. 1181 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,679 Speaker 3: Yes, Magic Con Amsterdam, big week for Magic gathering if 1182 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,800 you play that. Tomorrow at one pm Eastern time, they're 1183 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,679 doing their first look at November's Star Trek set, So 1184 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,519 if you're a Trekie and you don't like magic, come 1185 00:57:13,559 --> 00:57:15,840 see what they're doing there. And then the weekend in 1186 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,840 Amsterdam they have panels on their. 1187 00:57:18,679 --> 00:57:19,639 Speaker 2: Next upcoming sets. 1188 00:57:19,639 --> 00:57:22,760 Speaker 3: They have a panel on their Secret Layer, their bespoke stuff, 1189 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,719 so there'll probably be some crazy stuff to see there 1190 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:29,119 if you play the game, and I will be covering it, interviews, 1191 00:57:29,159 --> 00:57:32,960 all that good stuff. Very very excited to write these things, 1192 00:57:34,599 --> 00:57:37,159 and that's the biggest thing obviously for me. Other than that, 1193 00:57:37,239 --> 00:57:41,199 I'm just doing the normal news and reviews and stuff 1194 00:57:41,239 --> 00:57:44,800 like that. Big review season. Hi, I review games. Hello, 1195 00:57:45,199 --> 00:57:47,079 talk to me. Let's review games together. 1196 00:57:48,239 --> 00:57:50,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, there is plenty of games to be reviewed, so 1197 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,239 people are gonna perhaps spread the load in this industry 1198 00:57:54,239 --> 00:57:56,000 coming up here pretty soon, everybody. 1199 00:57:56,119 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 2: Man, that's the phrase you use. Spread the load, all right. 1200 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to have to like two step verification 1201 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,800 on my phone to like see the calendar. All right, 1202 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,400 there we go. I fixed that new poll question. Are 1203 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,440 you playing Black Ops one and two right now? 1204 00:58:12,519 --> 00:58:13,039 Speaker 2: Yes? Or no? 1205 00:58:13,639 --> 00:58:15,519 Speaker 1: I know this audience is mostly gonna be no, but 1206 00:58:15,559 --> 00:58:17,119 I want to see if there's any yesses in there. 1207 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,719 We'll talk about it on Wednesday show here on Giant Bomb. 1208 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,960 Speaking of Giant Bomb, I have no idea what's going 1209 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,960 on because I just got back. So I'm gonna go 1210 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:28,920 into a meeting and let you guys know. But I 1211 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,400 guess I do know that tomorrow we'll have the BombCast, 1212 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,519 and then on Wednesday it will be a White Club 1213 00:58:37,239 --> 00:58:39,559 and it will be my turn for the first time. 1214 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,880 I did see someone comment on Reddit that of the 1215 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:48,159 three Black Club members, I am number four for playtime 1216 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,760 this year because Jacob Keller is played more than me. 1217 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:55,679 Speaker 3: It is your recording, Jeff. I have not been tipped 1218 00:58:55,679 --> 00:58:58,519 off sometimes I am. Sometimes I know I don't know 1219 00:58:58,599 --> 00:59:03,239 this time, and oh no, I am so afraid and 1220 00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:04,039 excited for you. 1221 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:05,519 Speaker 2: It's not even funny. 1222 00:59:05,639 --> 00:59:09,360 Speaker 1: That is that stat is such a Of the four 1223 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:13,079 members of the NFC North, the Detroit Lions are number 1224 00:59:13,159 --> 00:59:16,280 five because twenty years ago Tampa Bay used to be 1225 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,639 in there, so it's like it still has many stats 1226 00:59:19,639 --> 00:59:22,039 above them. And I'm happy to be the Detroit Lions 1227 00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:26,440 of Blake Club. Absolutely, everybody, we'll see. We're gonna find 1228 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,159 out why Stephanie's so distraught. Everyone, We're gonna We're gonna 1229 00:59:29,159 --> 00:59:31,519 find out why she's so upset. She seems a little 1230 00:59:31,519 --> 00:59:33,039 mad at me. So I don't know. 1231 00:59:33,199 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 2: I'm like you, you don't over it exactly. 1232 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 1: So we're gonna find out what's going on. 1233 00:59:40,159 --> 00:59:43,280 Speaker 3: Let's hope it's like Suave and Debonair and it's not anger, 1234 00:59:44,079 --> 00:59:46,719 it's passions. 1235 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,960 Speaker 2: Hope. Let's say for my sake, we'll find out. Tune in, 1236 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,639 h don't miss it, I guess, or miss it. I 1237 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:53,199 don't know. 1238 00:59:53,239 --> 00:59:56,119 Speaker 1: It's your life, but I'm gonna be suffering either way. 1239 00:59:56,559 --> 01:00:02,639 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I've been tipped off? Have you really? Yes? 1240 01:00:03,239 --> 01:00:07,920 What is it? Do the fucking saying a word? All right? Well, 1241 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,880 we'll be back with more Giant Bob and everything. 1242 01:00:10,119 --> 01:00:11,679 Speaker 1: Jason Finley, thank you so much for hanging out with 1243 01:00:11,679 --> 01:00:13,039 me today and talking about video games. 1244 01:00:13,039 --> 01:00:14,519 Speaker 2: Man, I really appreciate. 1245 01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:19,920 Speaker 1: It, enjoy no, thank you everybody for watching and listening. 1246 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:21,679 Speaker 2: You're the best audience in gaming. 1247 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,920 Speaker 1: Until next time, have a good one, take care of 1248 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,000 yourself and god damn it.