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Speaker 1: Imagine for just a second having the power to essentially

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act as a financial safety net for an entire nation.

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Speaker 2: And we are not talking about a massive modern corporation.

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Speaker 1: Here, right, No, or a central bank backed by millions

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of taxpayers. I mean privately holding the purse strings to

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the most pivotal and devastating wars in human history.

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Speaker 2: Literally deciding who gets to fight, who has to fold,

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and who completely goes bankrupt.

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Speaker 1: Exactly. Picture yourself stepping in to save the United States

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government from completely defaulting, all while operating entirely from the shadows,

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actively avoiding the front pages of the newspapers.

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Speaker 2: It honestly sounds like the plot of a geopolitical thriller, right,

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Like the kind of thing Hollywood writes when they want

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a really shadowy antagonist.

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Speaker 1: It really does. Yeah, but this is the very real,

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highly documented history of what it means to play the

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ultimate multi generational long game. Welcome to thrilling threads.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. This is really the ultimate story

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of leverage and constraint. When we look at the raw

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mechanics of global power throughout history, it rarely starts in

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a palace.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it usually starts somewhere much more.

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Speaker 2: Restrictive exactly where ambition has absolutely no choice but to

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become weaponized just to survive.

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Speaker 1: And if you're listening to us right now, pull up

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a chair, consider yourself the third person at this table.

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Because today's mission is a massive one.

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Speaker 2: It's huge.

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Speaker 1: We are unpacking the rise, the near collapses, and the

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constant evolution of the Rothschild Bunking dynasty, along with the

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massive American rivals who eventually rose up to challenge their supremacy.

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Speaker 2: But we aren't here to just recite a timeline of

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dates and treaties.

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Speaker 1: No, definitely not. We want to completely reverse engineer the

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mechanics of this unprecedented wealth. We're going to pull apart

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the ruthless strategies of early international finance and figure out

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how the blueprints these families drew up are still dictating

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the global power structures we see today.

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Speaker 2: And to really understand that architecture, you have to look

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at the foundation. You have to look at the pressure

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cooker that forged this specific type of financial geni right, and.

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Speaker 1: That foundation wasn't built in a plush London boardroom.

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Speaker 2: No, or on Wall Street. It was actually built in

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the eighteenth century in a highly restricted Jewish ghetto in Frankfurt, Germany,

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known as the Juden Gooss.

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Speaker 1: We really need to set the scene here because the

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environment is totally crucial to understanding the psychology of everything

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, we are talking about a single narrow, curved street.

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The historical records describe alleys just spilling over with heaps

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of second hand clothes, soiled household goods, and just staggering squalor.

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Speaker 2: And the people living there were physically locked in.

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Speaker 1: At night, yeah, and on Sundays too. But worse than

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the physical walls were the economic walls. The laws at

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the time were brutally restrictive, designed specifically to keep this

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population entirely marginalized.

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Speaker 2: Right, so, Mayor Amschel Rothschild, the patriarch who starts this

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entire dynasty, He was legally barred from doing almost anything

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that a normal person would do to build generational wealth.

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Speaker 1: The systemic constraints were absolute.

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Speaker 2: They were I mean, he couldn't own land, he couldn't farm,

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he was banned from practicing handicrafts.

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Speaker 1: He was completely locked out of trading with the authorities

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deemed nobler.

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Speaker 2: Goods exactly, so no weapons, no silk, no fresh fruit,

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no spices, nothing, high marginow, no fruit even right. He

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was forced into the exact same incredibly narrow economic lane

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as his ancestors, which was peddling used textiles and exchanging

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small amounts of currency for travelers.

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Speaker 1: Which brings up a really fascinating question about human ambition,

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because when a society puts that level of a ceiling

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on someone, usually it just crushes them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it breaks most people, But every now and then.

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Speaker 1: It seems to do the exact opposite.

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Speaker 2: Because when you impose that level of systemic constraint and

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you completely deny a highly capable individual the traditional acceptable

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avenues of wealth generation, you inadvertently create a laboratory, a

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laboratory for what for the most ruthless innovative business practices imaginable.

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Because the tradition paths are blocked, the only way forward

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is to study the walls of the maze, find the

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absolute smallest cracks in the financial system, and pry them

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open with whatever leverage you can find.

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Speaker 1: And Mayor Rothschild clearly wasn't content to just survive in

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the used clothing trade. He looks around, realizes the profit

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margins in secondhand textiles are terrible and he pivots.

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Speaker 2: He shifts his focus to trading rare coins, metals and antiques.

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Speaker 1: Which seems like a really small step, but it's actually

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the spark that ignites the whole empire, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: It is because it gets him in front of a

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very specific clientele. He starts catering to aristocratic.

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Speaker 1: Collectors ah, right, the people with the real money.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, and eventually he secures a position as a crown

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agent or court factor for Prince William of Hesscastle.

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Speaker 1: And Prince William was phenomenally.

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Speaker 2: Well, oh, incredibly wealthy. He made a massive fortune essentially

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renting out his private military Hessian mercenaries to other nations,

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Speaker 1: Right, the Hessians. So being his court agent was essentially

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acting as a high end personal financial advisor and procure basically. Yes,

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judentas suddenly become the primary financial guy for one of

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the richest royals in Europe. Prince William had his pick

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Speaker 2: Well, he didn't become the primary guy overnight. He started

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by offering Prince William rare coins at a loss or

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Speaker 1: He deliberately took a hit on his own incredibly limited

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Speaker 2: Yes, he proved his utility, his discretion, and his loyalty

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over years of small transactions, building trust exactly, And once

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he had the Prince's ear and more importantly, his trust,

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Mayer began executing a strategy that in today's highly regulated

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financial markets is known as front running.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, front running.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and just to be absolutely clear, if he did

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this today, you would go straight to federal prison.

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Speaker 1: I love this part because the mechanics are just brilliant

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in their audacity. Let's break down how this actually worked

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for you listening. Think about a high end personal shopper today.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's a good analogy.

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Speaker 1: Sale. Wealthy client wants a very specific, limited edition vintage watch,

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and they tell their personal shopper, go find this for me.

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I don't care what it costs.

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Speaker 2: Right, So a standard personal shopper goes out, finds the

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watch for say, fifty thousand dollars, buys it on behalf

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of the client, and charges the client a five percent

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Speaker 1: Right, standard practice. But what Mayor was doing was entirely different.

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Prince William would tell him to obtain a specific volume

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of gold coins or securities.

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Speaker 2: And Mayor would go out use his own growing credit

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network to borrow the money privately and buy those exact

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coins himself on the open market.

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Speaker 1: He would take physical ownership of them exactly.

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Speaker 2: Then he would turn around, walk into the palace and

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sell those exact same coins to the print.

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Speaker 1: So he was acting as both the independent buyer in

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the market and the exclusive seller to his client simultaneously.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he is capturing profit from multiple directions on

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a single closed loop transaction.

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Speaker 1: First, he collects and official can mission fee from the

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Speaker 2: Which was often around eight percent, But the real money

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Speaker 1: Because he on the coins, he set the price he

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Speaker 2: Right, he was pocketing the spread between what he secretly

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paid in the martin and what he charged the Royal Treasury.

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Prince was going to buy, he carried zero inventory risk.

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Speaker 1: He knew the buyer was guaranteed. It's an incredible loophole,

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and it's the kind of thing you only figure out

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if you've been denied access to the front door. Of

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Speaker 2: You have to understand the plumbing of the system better

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than the people who actually designed it.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely by seventeen eighty two, this strategy makes him staggeringly wealthy.

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Speaker 2: And as the century closes, he realizes that just being

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a wealthy guy who runs errands for royalty isn't enough

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to build a permanent legacy, so.

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Speaker 1: He transitions his entire operation into a formal bank.

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Speaker 2: That transition is a masterclass in understanding the psychology of power. Traders,

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merchants and even wealthy core agents all lacked one vital

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currency in eighteenth century.

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Speaker 1: Europe institutional legitimacy.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. They were viewed as temporary, transactional operators. Becoming a

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formalized bank wasn't just about offering new financial products.

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Speaker 1: It was about fundamentally changing how the European establishment perceived him.

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Speaker 2: It was about moving his family from the fringe of

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the economy to the absolute center of it.

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Speaker 1: And it absolutely worked. He becomes the richest man in Frankfurt.

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But here is the piece of Mayor's psychology that I

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find most compelling, and you see it in a lot

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of modern mega founders today.

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Speaker 2: There's a famous piece of insight into his mindset.

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Speaker 1: Yeah this as it boils down to, it's never about

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the money, It's about winning the game. For Mayor, accumulating

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wealth wasn't the finish.

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Speaker 2: Line, because at a certain echelon money ceases to be

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a tool for purchasing goods and shelter. It becomes entirely

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a mechanism for keeping score.

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Speaker 1: It's about achievement, leverage, and upping the ante right.

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Speaker 2: To build a dynasty that outlasts empires, you have to

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possess an almost pathological drive for what comes next. Mayor

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understood that if he was satisfied with merely being the

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richest man in Frankfort, his legacy would eventually die.

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Speaker 1: In Frankfurt, Prussia was simply too small a playing field

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for the architecture he had in his.

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Speaker 2: Head, which leads directly into what has to be one

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of the most consequential strategic decisions in the history of finance.

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Speaker 1: He has five sons, right, he keeps.

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Speaker 2: The eldest with him in Frankfort, but he takes the

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other four and systematically dispatches them to set up independent

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branches in the great power centers. Of Europe.

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Speaker 1: He sends them to Vienna, Naples, Paris, and to the

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absolute crown jewel of the global economy, London. He's building

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a decentralized multinational network centuries before the word decentralization became

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a tech buzzword.

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Speaker 2: We really need to focus our attention on London here

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because the environment his third son, Nathan Roth's Child, walked

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Speaker 1: To understand Nathan's success, you have to understand the immense

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power of Great Britain in the early eighteen hundreds. It

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is the undisputed global superpower.

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Speaker 2: You have the Bank of England, which had been established

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back in sixteen ninety four, providing a deeply robust, stable

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financial center.

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Speaker 1: You have the British Royal Navy enforcing absolute dominance over

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global trade routes.

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Speaker 2: And you have the Industrial Revolution utterly transforming the domestic economy,

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turning Britain into a manufacturing.

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Speaker 1: Titan and into this roaring economic engine. Step Snathan, and

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it's crucial to note he doesn't arrive as a conquering

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hero with endless capital.

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Speaker 2: No, he arrives as an outsider with a heavy German accent,

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facing intense zenophobia and carrying an almost crushing psychological pressure

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to prove himself to his demanding father.

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Speaker 1: He is fiercely ambitious, relentlessly competitive, and notoriously quick to

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take offense.

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Speaker 2: His father gives him an initial investment of roughly twenty

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thousand pounds, and his singular goal is to multiply it

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by any means necessary, and.

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Speaker 1: He immediately zeros in on the exact industry that had

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Speaker 2: Family, textiles.

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Speaker 1: But London's textiles sector was booming, fueled by new industrial

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looms and global cotton imports. It was full of small scale,

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fragmented workshops.

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Speaker 2: Nathan doesn't just want to be another merchant buying and

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selling codes.

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Speaker 1: He looks at the entire supply chain and identifies exactly

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where the inefficiencies and the profit leakages are. This leads

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to his legendary three profit strategy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I want to dig into this because when I

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look at the strategy, it is the exact identical playbook

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that the biggest tech monopolies used today.

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Speaker 1: Oh. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Nathan realizes that the traditional nineteenth century model buying a

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finished shirt from a manufacturer and selling it to a

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retailer only gives him one small slice of the pie.

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Speaker 1: So he bypasses the traditional merchant relationship entirely. He goes

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directly to the manufacturers and flips the dynamic.

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Speaker 2: He tells them, I am not going to buy your

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finished goods. Instead, I'm going to supply you with the

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raw cotton.

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Speaker 1: I'm also going to supply you with the chemical dies.

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Speaker 2: You are going to use your machines to manufacture the

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goods to my specifications, and then you going to supply

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the finished product exclusively back to me to sell.

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Speaker 1: It is vertical integration in its absolute, purest, most aggressive form.

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Speaker 2: By taking control of the raw material, the die, and

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the final point of sale, he is capturing three separate

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profit margins instead of one.

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Speaker 1: And because he is extracting value at every single stage

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of the process, his aggregate cost basis is so low

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that he can undercut absolutely everybody else in the London

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market on the final price of the goods.

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Speaker 2: It's ruthless efficiency.

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Speaker 1: He squeezed the independent manufacturers until they were essentially just

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wage laborers working on his materials.

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Speaker 2: It's exactly like a modern tech giant that refuses to

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just build a smartphone. They manufacture the proprietary hardware, They

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write the closed operating system. They run the exclusive app

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store where you have to buy your software.

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Speaker 1: Right, and they charge a thirty percent processing fee on

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every single transaction that happens inside that ecosystem.

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Speaker 2: They capture the profit at every conceivable touch point. Nathan

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was doing this with cotton and indigo in the early

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eighteen hundreds, and.

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Speaker 1: The result he turns his father's twenty thousand pounds into

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sixty thousand pounds in a shockingly short amount of time.

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Speaker 2: But he didn't stop at legal vertical integration.

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Speaker 1: Right, not at all. The historical record is very clear

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that Nathan massively accelerated this capital accumulation by venturing heavily

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into smuggling.

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Speaker 2: He became a prolific smuggler of both textiles and precious metals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, finding highly creative ways to get goods onto the

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European continent, regardless of Napoleon's blockades or British tariffs.

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Speaker 2: I have to push back a little here, though. How

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is a guy who just got to London running a

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massive smuggling ring under the nose of the British Royal Navy.

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Speaker 1: Oceans well because he wasn't doing it on majestic galleons

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flying black flags. He was using a vast, decentralized network

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of small fishing boats, corrupt customs officials, and localized couriers.

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familial and community trust that he used for his legitimate banking,

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and ironically, the British government often looked the other way.

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Why would they do that because his smuggling of British

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manufactured goods into French controlled territories actually undermined the French

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economy and brought gold back into Britain.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, so he's essentially engaging in state sanctioned economic

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warfare disguised as black markets smuggling. It really highlights how

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operating in these massive legal gray areas acts as a

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catalyst for early empire building before the rigid rules of

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global trade were fully cemented. The operators who are willing

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to circumvent the clunky existing regulations were the ones who

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amassed the capital necessary to eventually rewrite the rules themselves,

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and by.

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Speaker 1: Eighteen oh eight his sales hit eight hundred thousand pounds.

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Speaker 2: He takes that massive pile of capital and officially transforms

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his London operation into a proper merchant.

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Speaker 1: Bank, textiles and illicit trade were the engine of his

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initial capital accumulation. But to achieve the kind of historical

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world shaping supremacy the Rothschilds are known for, you need

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more than just a clever supply chain, right.

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Speaker 2: You need a massive systemic disruption to the global order.

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Speaker 1: You need a geopolitical catastrophe that you, and only you

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are uniquely positioned to solve.

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Speaker 2: And for Nathan Rothschild, that catastrophe arrived in the form

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of the later stages of the Napoleonic Wars. Let's set

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the stage for this, because this is where the history

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stops being about commerce and turns into a genuine thriller.

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Speaker 1: The year is eighteen fourteen. The Duke of Wellington is

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locked in a brutal, grinding campaign against Napoleon's forces in

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the Iberian Peninsula modern day Spain and Portugal.

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Speaker 2: But Wellington has a massive logistical problem, and it isn't

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just the French artillery. It's fiscal overstretch.

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Speaker 1: His supply lines are breaking down, his troops are near

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mutiny because they haven't been paid, and local merchants refuse

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to accept British pounds to.

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Speaker 2: Keep his army moving Wellington desperately needs French gold and

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silver coins.

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Speaker 1: Financing a war is arguably the ultimate high risk, high

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reward business venture. Wars consume foreign exchange at an unbelievable rate.

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Speaker 2: If you want to sustain an army on foreign soil,

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you need hard local currency. You can't pay a Spanish

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farmer for his wheat using a piece of paper printed

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in London.

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Speaker 1: Right, The British government was absolutely desperate for physical goal

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to convert into local currency to keep Wellingken's war machine

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from collapsing entirely.

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Speaker 2: And here's where Nathan makes a move of just staggering

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terrifying audacity.

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Speaker 1: He gets wind that the East India Company, which is

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essentially a massive corporate empire in its own right, has

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a massive stockpile roughly eight hundred thousand pounds worth of

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gold they are looking to offload in London.

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Speaker 2: Nathan immediately goes in and buys all of it, every

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last ounce.

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Speaker 1: He single handedly corners the market on the exact physical

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asset he knows the British government cannot survive without.

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Speaker 2: He created an artificial monopoly. The British Treasury realizes they

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absolutely have to have this gold to save Wellington, so

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they are forced to come to Nathan.

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Speaker 1: But once they secure it, the government runs into a

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seemingly impossible logistical nightmare.

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Speaker 2: They have a mountain of gold sitting in London, they

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have absolutely no idea how to physically transport it across

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the ocean and through enemy lines to Wellington and Portugal.

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Speaker 1: The French Navy is patrolling the waters and the overland

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roots are swarming with French troops.

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Speaker 2: This is where that underground smuggling network Nathan spent years

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building pays off exponentially.

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Speaker 1: He steps up to the British government and essentially says,

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don't worry about the transport, I'll handle the logistics.

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Speaker 2: And he proceeds to orchestrate the smuggling of this massive

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fortune of physical gold directly through enemy territory.

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Speaker 1: Literally routing it through France itself to fund the army

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that is actively trying to destroy the French Empire.

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Speaker 2: That is just wild through enemy territory.

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Speaker 1: It is an operation of breath taking risk. He used

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his brothers in Paris and Frankfurt to coordinate a complex

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chain of intermediaries, using false bottoms and carriages and bribing

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sympathetic French bankers.

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Speaker 2: They were taking British gold secretly converting it into French

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francs inside France, and then funneling those Franks across the

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Pyrenees Mountains to Wellington.

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Speaker 1: He later described it to his family as the best

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business he ever did, and it cemented a much broader

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strategy for the dynasty.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they were charging the British government massive commissions, sometimes

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up to eight percent, just for the currency exchange and

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transport services, but their true profit engine wasn't the commission

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It was foreign exchange speculation. They were making massive leverage

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bets on the movement of global currencies based on the

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flow of the war.

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Speaker 1: But here is the critical economic principle. You cannot effectively

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speculate on four x, especially during a volatile continental war,

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without an informational advantage.

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Speaker 2: If you are guessing, you go bankrupt.

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Speaker 1: This is perhaps the most crucial takeaway from their entire

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nineteenth century operation, the absolute, unwavering premium they placed on

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information and speed.

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Speaker 2: The Rothschilds operated on the fundamental belief that information is

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everything and speed is king.

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Speaker 1: They built private intelligence network that made the official government

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spy agencies look entirely incompetent.

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Speaker 2: We are talking about heavily guarded private carrier routes, the

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fastest ships available, and most famously highly trained fleets of

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carrier pigeons.

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Speaker 1: They were ensuring that they received news from the front lines,

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news of pivotal victories, catastrophic defeats, or shifting alliances, days

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before the official government couriers or any of their rival

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bankers got the word.

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Speaker 2: In modern financial chimes, the Rothschilds were the original architects

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of high frequency trading.

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Speaker 1: Today, quantity aative financial firms will spend hundreds of millions

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of dollars to literally bore a tunnel through a mountain

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and lay a straight lined fiber optic cable between the

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Chicago Mercantile Exchange and the New York Stock Exchange.

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Speaker 2: Why just to shave a few blancro seconds off their

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trade execution times exactly.

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Speaker 1: The Rothschel pigeon and courier network was the nineteenth century

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equivalent of that fiber optic cable. If you know the

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outcome of a major battle before the bar on market

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does day, you essentially possess a crystal ball.

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Speaker 2: It's exactly like knowing the final score of the Super

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Bowl an hour before the bookies In Vegas find out

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you can walk and place your bets with absolute mathematical

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certainty and drain the house while everyone else is still

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guessing about the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: That informational supremacy made Nathan Rothschild the richest man in

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the world. He had achieved total dominance over the London.

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Speaker 2: Market, but even the most powerful man in global finance

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couldn't outsmart the one enemy that comes for absolutely everyone.

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Speaker 1: In July of eighteen thirty six, Nathan Rothschild travels to

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Frankfurt for a family gathering and contracts an infection. He

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dies unexpectedly at the age of fifty eight.

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Speaker 2: This wasn't just a family tragedy. This was a profound

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shock to the global macroeconomic system.

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Speaker 1: The family was known for their longevity. His own mother

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was still alive in Frankfurt and lived past ninety.

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Speaker 2: When the news hit London, the market shuddered. The London

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Times wrote a massive editorial stating that his death was

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one of the most important events for Europe in a

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long time. I'm explicitly noting that no financial operations comparable

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to his had ever existed in the history of the world.

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Speaker 1: And normally when a highly centralized founder led empire loses

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its visionary architect, so suddenly a massive power vacuum opens

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up and destroys the company.

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Speaker 2: The rivals circle, the children fight over the scraps, and

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the empire collapses.

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Speaker 1: But this is where Mayor Amshel's original blueprint, the decentralized

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network of brothers saves them.

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Speaker 2: The London Bank doesn't collapse.

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Speaker 1: The surviving brothers lean on the structure they have built,

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and the youngest brother, James Rothschild, who is stationed in Paris,

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immediately steps up as the new de facto commander in

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chief of the dynasty.

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Speaker 2: James is a phenomenal historical figure in his own right.

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He is intellectually and temperamentally Nathan's equal, but he grew

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up with the advantage of immense wealth, meaning he had

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better schooling and a deeper integration into high society.

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Speaker 1: And James recognizes a shifting economic reality. While government bonds

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and war financing are still incredibly lucrative, the market is

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becoming saturated.

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Speaker 2: Rivals like the Bearings are entering the space, and the

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margins on sovereign debt are shrinking.

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Speaker 1: He realizes he needs a new frontier. He needs to

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find the next great technological leap to deploy their massive

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capital reserves.

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Speaker 2: And he finds it in the eighteen twenty five railway boom.

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Speaker 1: The world is changing rapidly. Railroads are revolutionizing everything. They

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are fostering explosive industrial growth, completely reshaping inland trade routes,

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and physically connecting the European continent in a way that

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had never been possible.

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Speaker 2: James pivots the Paris branch hard into this space. But

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he doesn't just throw the family's cash at every train

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line recklessly. He utilizes a financial structure called syndicates.

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Speaker 1: This is a critical evolution in the history of modern finance.

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James was a true pioneer in utilizing syndicates in France.

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Speaker 2: Essentially, a syndicate means leveraging other people's money to execute

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massive projects while severely reducing your own personal risk exposure. Wait,

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break that down for me. If the Rothschilds are the

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richest family in the world, why do they need other

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people's money to build a train track? Why not just

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own it outright and keep all the profit.

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Speaker 1: Because infrastructure projects like early railways were notoriously prone to

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massive budget overruns, engineering disasters, and shifting government regulations.

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Speaker 2: So It's about risk exactly.

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Speaker 1: If James funded a massive railway line entirely with Rothschild

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capital and the project failed, it could severely damage the

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bank's liquidity.

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Speaker 2: Instead, he would gather a group of wealthy investors, aristocrats,

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other bankers, industrialists and pool their capital together.

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Speaker 1: The Rothschild Bank remained at the absolute center of the deal.

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They structured. It generated the initial funds, collected massive management commissions,

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and invested heavily in the adjacent industries like the metallurgy,

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the coal mining, and the railways themselves.

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Speaker 2: But if the specific railway line went bankrupt, the financial

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loss was distributed across a broad base of syndicate members.

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Speaker 1: It is the exact foundational pill of modern investment, banking

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and private equity.

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Speaker 2: It's brilliant risk management. You own the upside through commissions

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and adjacent monopolies, but you socialize the downside risk right.

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Speaker 1: But even with that sophisticated financial engineering, the eighteen forties

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bring a crisis that threatens to tear the whole preasion

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operation down.

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Speaker 2: While the Rothschilds and their syndicate partners are making vast

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fortunes in railroads and industrialization, the average people are struggling immensely.

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Speaker 1: The income disparity in France is massive, The French government

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is deeply in debt, crops are failing, and the public

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is furious.

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Speaker 2: They are resentful of the monarchy, and they are especially

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resentful of the wealthy financiers who are visibly backing the regime.

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Speaker 1: This economic and social instability eventually erupts into the Revolution

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of eighteen forty eight. The political chaos pushes the French

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Rothschild Bank to the absolute brink of total collapse.

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Speaker 2: Their assets plummet in value, mobs are targeting their properties,

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and James is desperate for liquidity to survive the bank runs.

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Speaker 1: He reached out to his nephew in London, Lionel, who

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is Nathan's son, begging for an emergency bailout.

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Speaker 2: And this scenario forces a fascinating high stakes collision between cold,

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rational business logic and deep seated family values.

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Speaker 1: It really does, because from a purely financial standpoint, giving

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James a bailout is an atrocious idea.

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Speaker 2: Throwing good London money after bad Paris money into a

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collapsing French economy amidst a literal, violent revolution makes zero sense.

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Speaker 1: Lionel was risking the solvency of the incredibly stable London

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branch to save a sinking ship.

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Speaker 2: Why on earth would he agree to do that?

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Speaker 1: Because he was bound by something stronger than a fiduciary

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duty to shareholders. He was bound by Mayor Amshel's deathbed

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wish family unity above all else.

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Speaker 2: Which acts as their ultimate corporate mote. The London Bank

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swallows the risk, arranges the massive transfer of funds, and

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saves the Paris branch from ruin.

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Speaker 1: When the broader world turns violently against one localized note

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of their network, the other nodes serve as an impenetrable failsafe.

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Speaker 2: It's a level of institutional resilience that standard corporate entities

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can rarely achieve, because standard corporations will ampucate a dying

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limb to save the cores.

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Speaker 1: But the Rothschilds viewed the limbs and the corps as fundamentally.

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Speaker 2: Inseparable, and Lionel's impact in London wasn't just limited to

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cross channel bailouts. He was determined to break down the

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social and political barriers that still existed for his family

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in Britain.

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Speaker 1: He used his immense wealth and influence strategically, specifically aiming

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to eliminate the lingering systemic prejudice against the Jewish community.

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Speaker 2: By eighteen forty seven, he mounts a major political campaign

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and is elected to the British House of Commons as

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a Liberal candidate.

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Speaker 1: Which was an incredibly significant historic moment, but it immediately

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hit a massive constitutional brick wall.

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Speaker 2: To officially take his seat and vote in Parliament, he

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was legally required to recite a Christian oath of allegiance

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on the Holy Scriptures.

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Speaker 1: And Lionel absolutely refused. He stood his ground in front

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of the entire British establishment and insisted on swearing his

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oath exclusively on the Old Testament.

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Speaker 2: And maintaining strict neutrality on the political dynamics of the era.

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What we are witnessing here is a profound shift in

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how power is exercised.

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Speaker 1: We see wealth being utilized not just for compounding interests

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or buying estates, but as a deliberate, forceful tool for

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social engineering and securing representations in the very legislative halls

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of power that had historically excluded them.

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Speaker 2: It took over a decade of legislative battles and him

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being re elected multiple times while unable to sit before

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the law was finally changed in eighteen fifty eight to

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accommodate him.

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Speaker 1: It's a massive victory of endurance.

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Speaker 2: By the mid nineteenth century, the Rothschilds have survived the

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sudden loss of their greatest leader in Nathan Fellow. They've

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navigated a massive economic collapse in revolution in France, They've

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successfully broken into the highest levels of the British government,

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and they seem utterly completely untouchable in Europe.

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Speaker 1: But here is where the historical record forces us to

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shift our focus, because while they are absolutely dominating the

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old world, across the ocean, the playing field is radically changing.

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Speaker 2: A new challenger is quietly building strength, and he is

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about to beat the Rothschilds at their own game.

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Speaker 1: Enter Junius Morgan. He is an American banker who in

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eighteen sixty four crosses the Atlantic and takes over the

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established merchant banking firm George Peabody in Company in London.

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Speaker 2: The historical accounts described Junius as having a gravely mature air.

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He is solemn, deeply business like, and always the absolute

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master of his emotions.

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Speaker 1: And Genius Morgan recognizes the exact same fundamental truth that

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Nathan Rothschild realized decades earlier. If you want to play

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in the absolute top tier of global finance, you have

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to finance sovereign governments.

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Speaker 2: And nothing creates an immediate desperate need for sovereign financing

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quite like war.

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Speaker 1: And in eighteen seventy Junius Morgan gets his war. The

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tensions in Europe snap and Napoleon the third of France

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officially declares war on Prussia.

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Speaker 2: Now we have to talk about the Chancellor of Tresia

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at this time, a man named Otto von Bismarck. The

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historic profiles of Bismarck are terrifying.

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Speaker 1: He is described as a raging bull, a man with

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a wildly aggressive temperament but a calculating, chillingly clear intellect.

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Speaker 2: He was practically baiting France into declaring war so he

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could use the resulting conflict to forcefully unify the independent

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German states into a single dominant German Empire.

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Speaker 1: So the Rothschilds, sitting in London and Paris look at

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this situation. They possess over a century of data on

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European conflicts.

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Speaker 2: They assess the modern industrialized military strength of Prussia under

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Bismarck's leadership, and they compare it to the disorganized French military.

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Speaker 1: They make a very logical, dated driven calculation. France is

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going to lose this war and they are going to

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lose badly.

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Speaker 2: Therefore, lending millions to the French government is an incredibly

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toxic bet.

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Speaker 1: They, along with almost all the other major European houses

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like Baring Brothers, completely refuse to finance the French war.

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Speaker 2: Effort, which makes Gunius Morgan's next move so absolutely staggering.

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He looks at the exact same geopolitical data, the exact

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same impending military disaster for France, and he takes the

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exact opposite bet.

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Speaker 1: He steps up and decides to finance.

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Speaker 2: The French Because Genius Morgan made a brilliant, completely contrarian

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risk assessment.

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Speaker 1: He realized that the military outcome of the war, who

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won the battles and who surrendered, was actually secondary to

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the underlying economic reality of the nation.

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Speaker 2: His thesis was incredibly sharp. It didn't matter if France

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lost their army on the battlefield.

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Speaker 1: Right the French domestic economy was highly diversified, and crucially,

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they possessed an incredibly efficient, deeply entrenched national tax collection system.

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Speaker 2: Morgan understood a fundamental truth of sovereign debt. A country's

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ability to repay a bond isn't determined by whether their

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generals win a war. It's determined by whether their bureaucrats

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can efficiently extract taxes from their citizens when the war

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is over.

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Speaker 1: It's such a profound lesson in looking at the right metrics.

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How often do we see investors today totally misjudge a

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situation or a company because they are completely focused on

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the wrong data points.

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Speaker 2: They look at the flashy headline instead of the underlying plumbing.

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Morgan separated the emotional and military reality of the war

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from the fiscal reality of the state.

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Speaker 1: He successfully raises a massive ten million pounds for the

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French army through his own syndicative investors, and he even

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uses his American connections to grant the French access to

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American arms manufacturers.

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Speaker 2: And historically, the Rothschild's military prediction was den on. France

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loses the war disastrously.

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Speaker 1: The Treaty of Frankfurt in eighteen seventy one is profoundly humiliating.

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France is forced to see the territory of Alces Lorraine

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pay a massive indemnity, and the German Empire is officially

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proclaimed right in the Hall of Mirrors at the Palace

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of Versailles.

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Speaker 2: But Junius Morgan's economic prediction was also flawlessly correct. When

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the war ended, the defeated French government did not default

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on their sovereign debt.

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Speaker 1: In fact, fueled by national pride and that highly efficient

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tax system, they actually prepaid Morgan's bonds by eighteen seventy three.

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Speaker 2: Junius Morgan walks away with a one point five million

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pound personal profit in the eighteen seventies. That is an

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astronomical windfall.

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Speaker 1: But more importantly than the money, it shatters the aura

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of Rothschild invincibility.

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Speaker 2: It proves that the old Guard is not infallible, and

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it officially bursts the House Morgan as a formidable, top

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tier force in global finance.

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Speaker 1: And it signals a massive structural shift in the center

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of financial gravity. The old European empires are starting to

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share the stage with a new, rapidly rising power.

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Speaker 2: Because while the House of Morgan is ascending and building

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its Transatlantic bridge, the Rothschilds are facing complex internal challenges.

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Speaker 1: After James dies in Paris in eighteen sixty eight, the

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younger generation starts to fragment geographically and strategically.

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Speaker 2: They are trying to rebuild their prestige, and the records

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note they start investing heavily overseas, putting a massive thirty

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seven percent of their portfolio into Egyptian state debt and

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financing vast railroad networks in India.

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Speaker 1: But in doing so they severely underestimate the biggest, most

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explosive emerging market on the.

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Speaker 2: Planet, America. We are moving into the late eighteen hundreds

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and the United States is just exploding with unchecked capitalist energy.

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Speaker 1: You have the aftermath of the Civil War driving industrialization.

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The Trans continell Railroad is completed in eighteen sixty nine,

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physically uniting the continent, and it is the era of

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the absolute Titans.

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Speaker 2: You have Cornelius Vanderbilt dominating the railroads, Andrew Carnegie forging

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an unfathomable steel empire, and John D. Rockefeller ruthlessly consolidating

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the entire oil industry.

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Speaker 1: Yet the historical correspondence reveals that for years the Rothschilds

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essentially dismissed America.

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Speaker 2: They viewed it as a land of madmen, a chaotic, unruly,

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politically volatile market, not worthy of their primary strategic focus.

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Speaker 1: They preferred the predictable stability of European sovereign debt.

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Speaker 2: But the sheer scale of the wealth being generated in

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the US and the undeniable rise of Wall Street as

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a global financial hub eventually forces them to pay attention.

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Speaker 1: They realize, somewhat belatedly that they need a foothold in

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this new MPAM.

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Speaker 2: And their opportunity arrives, as it so often does for

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these megabanks, during a moment of profound, terrifying crisis. Let's

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set the scene for May eighteen ninety three.

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Speaker 1: The American railroad industry, which had been expanding at a

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breakneck highly speculative pace, suddenly collapses.

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Speaker 2: Over extended companies start failing. The bubble bursts, violently triggering

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the Panic of eighteen ninety three, which was one of

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the most severe economic depressions in American history.

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Speaker 1: Thousands of businesses fail, unemployment stye rockets, and the stock

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market crashes.

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Speaker 2: And the crisis quickly morphs from a series of corporate

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bankruptcies into a full blown sovereign emergency.

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Speaker 1: To understand why, you have to understand the macroeconomics of

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the era. At this time, the global economy operates strictly

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on the gold standard.

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Speaker 2: The value of the US dollar is directly tied to

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the government's ability to convert paper dollars into physical gold

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upon request.

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Speaker 1: The British pound was still the undisputed dominant global reserve currency,

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and US President Grover Cleveland firmly believed that if the

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US abandoned the gold standard and stop redeeming dollars for gold,

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the country would lose all international financial credibility.

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Speaker 2: European investors would pull every dime out of America.

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Speaker 1: But the US Treasury is bleeding gold at a catastrophic rate.

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Speaker 2: Terrified domestic and international investors are panicking, cashing out their

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paper dollars for physical gold coins and hoarding it.

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Speaker 1: The government's reserves are plummeting by the hour. They're literally

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days away from completely running out of gold.

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Speaker 2: And if that happens, the government officially defaults on its obligations,

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the currency collapses, and the entire American economy goes into

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a total free fall.

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Speaker 1: Imagine the sheer tension in the White House. The President

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of the United States realizes the federal government cannot save itself.

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Speaker 2: He has to humble himself and turn to a private

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citizen for rescue.

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Speaker 1: He calls on J. Pierpont Morgan, Junius's son, who now

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firmly heads the House of Morgan and dominates Wall Street.

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Speaker 2: JP Morgan knows that a US governmant default will trigger

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a cascade that will destroy his own vast banking empire

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along with the country.

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Speaker 1: He needs to inject a massive amount of physical gold

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into the US Treasury immediately to restore confidence and stop

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the run on the banks.

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Speaker 2: But even Morgan, with all his domestic power, doesn't have

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the required liquidity on hand.

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Speaker 1: He knows there was only one entity on the planet

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capable of supplying that massive volume of physical gold at

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a moment's notice.

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Speaker 2: The Rothschilds, Because while they may have been late to

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the American industrial boom, they hadn't been idle.

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Speaker 1: They had spent the last three decades quietly and strategically

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buying up gold and silver mining operations worldwide, from South

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Africa to the Americas.

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Speaker 2: They held the ultimate hard asset.

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Speaker 1: So in a moment of unprecedented financial synergy, JP Morgan

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and the Rothschild's form an alliance.

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Speaker 2: Morgan negotiates the deal with President Cleveland, and the two

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banking houses team up to issue sixty five million dollars

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in US government bonds.

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Speaker 1: They use their blind capital to purchase three point five

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million ounces of physical gold, primarily from Europe, and deposit

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it directly into the US treasury to replenish the reserves.

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Speaker 2: It's worth pausing to consider why this worked. Governments historically

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are excellent debtors because they hold the ultimate monopoly on taxation.

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Speaker 1: But in a panic, the public loses faith in the

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government's short term liquidity.

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Speaker 2: However, when Morgan and Rothschild visibly backed these new bonds

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with their own reputations and their own gold, it signaled absolute,

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unshakable security to the panicked market.

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Speaker 1: The bond sold out to the public in thirty minutes.

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Speaker 2: Thirty minutes. Let that sink in. It took thirty minutes

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to stop a total national economic collapse just because these

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two families put their names on the paper.

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Speaker 1: But as incredible as that is, it really highlights a

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terrifying dynamic about the concentration of power.

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Speaker 2: You have two private families holding so much concentrated wealth

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and systemic leverage that they are acting as the ultimate

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lender of last resort for a global superpower.

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Speaker 1: Today, we talk endlessly about megabanks being too big to fail,

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meaning the government has to step in with taxpayer money

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to bail them out.

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Speaker 2: In eighteen ninety three, it was the exact reverse, the

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private banks were bailing out the government.

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Speaker 1: It's an incredibly stark illustration of where true unfilter power

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resided at the turn of the twentieth century.

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Speaker 2: But as America rapidly ascends to global superpower status following

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this crisis, the historical record pulls us forcefully back to Europe,

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where the old empires are careening toward a catastrophe that

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no amount of private wealth, gold reserves, or brilliant syndicates

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could possibly control.

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Speaker 1: We move into the early nineteen hundreds and the tone

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of the history shifts dramatically. The era of profitable contained

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wars is ending.

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Speaker 2: The accounts described tensions in Europe reaching a boiling point,

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massive imperial rivalries, unchecked military build ups, and a tangled

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web of secret alliances.

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Speaker 1: The head of the London branch at this time, Natty Rothschild,

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is actually using his influence to advocate for the British

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government to dramatically expand its naval capabilities to match.

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Speaker 2: Germany's build At first glance, it looks like business as

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usual for the dynasty. More military spending means more government borrowing,

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which means more lucrative bond commissions.

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Speaker 1: But the historical analysis is explicit on this point. The

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Ross Trials, despite possessing over a century of unparalleled experience

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in financing and predicting European conflicts, fundamentally failed to realize

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the true horrific nature of the war that was coming.

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Speaker 2: When Archduke Fronts Ferdinand is assassinated in nineteen fourteen, triggering

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World War One. It is not a contained nineteenth century

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conflict that ends with a neat treaty and a manageable indemnity.

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Speaker 1: It is a mechanized meat grinder. We are talking about

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the horrors of trench warfare, the introduction of poison gas,

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artillery brages that leveled landscapes and an estimated seventeen million dead.

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Speaker 2: It was a total, devastating, border erasing war that consumed

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entire economies.

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Speaker 1: And for the very first time in their long history,

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the absolute core tenet of Mayor Amsel's legacy is broken.

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Speaker 2: The sheer scale and totality of the war fil physically

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forces members of the Rothschild family to align on opposing

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sides of the conflict.

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Speaker 1: The decentralized European network, having branches in London, Paris, and Vienna,

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which had always been their greatest structural strength, suddenly becomes

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a massive vulnerability when the host nations decided to try

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and slaughter each other.

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Speaker 2: They couldn't coordinate, they couldn't trade, and they were forced

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to fund armies shooting at their own cousins.

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Speaker 1: While the family did survive World War One and their

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respective branches did profit from financing their host nations, the

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geopolitical shift in global finance was undeniable and permanent.

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Speaker 2: The House of Morgan, now led by Jack Morgan, completely

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overshadows them on the world stage.

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Speaker 1: Because the United States entered the war late and remained

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physically untouched, The Morgan Bank becomes the primary financial conduit

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for the US government and the European allies, managing the

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massive flow of capital, munitions, and supplies across the Atlantic.

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Speaker 2: The center of financial tower officially moved from London to

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Wall Street.

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Speaker 1: The interwar period that follows the Armistice is incredibly dark

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for Europe and for the family. The historical records note

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the Rothschild dynasty is in disarray, fragmented by the new

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political borders, and the devastated economic realities of a ruined continent.

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Speaker 2: And far worse than the financial setbacks, they are facing

824
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a terrifying, organized surge of antisemitism.

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Speaker 1: Blamed by extremists for the economic hardships of the nineteen

826
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twenties and thirties. They become highly visible targets of intense hostility,

827
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particularly in Germany, as a new radical fascist leadership harnesses

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the public's anger and economic despair.

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Speaker 2: We must approach this specific portion of the history with

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absolute solemnity, adhering strictly to the factual records laid out

831
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in our sources.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen thirty nine, World War II begins. By the

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spring of nineteen forty, Hitler's forces are sweeping across Western

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Europe with terrifying mechanized.

835
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Speaker 2: Speed, conquering Denmark, Norway, the Netherlands, Belgium, and finally France.

836
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The German tanks physically roll into Paris.

837
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Speaker 1: For the French branch of the Rothschild family, the danger

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is no longer just finalcel it is entirely existential.

839
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Speaker 2: The historical accounts state that older prominent family members like Edward,

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Robert and Morris are forced to flee their homes, taking perilous,

841
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chaotic roots to escape across borders to the United States

842
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or England.

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Speaker 1: Other younger members of the family choose to stay and

844
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bravely engage in their resistance.

845
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Speaker 2: But the physical footprint of their financial empire in continental

846
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Europe is shattered. Their historic banks, their grand estates, their

847
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priceless art collections, and their financial assets are systematically seized

848
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and confiscated by the Nazi regime.

849
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Speaker 1: It is a profound, incredibly sobering historical lesson on the

850
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absolute limits of private power.

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Speaker 2: Globalization, immense multi generational wealth, and decentralized networks can provide

852
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an incredible buffer against market fluctuations, economic depressions, and localized

853
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political crises.

854
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Speaker 1: But they cannot completely shield any family, no matter how powerful,

855
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from the catastrophic violence of a total global war fueled

856
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by systemic persecution in state sponsored terror.

857
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Speaker 2: From the ashes of World War II. As Europe is

858
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finally liberated and begins to rebuild, the surviving members of

859
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the family face a monumental task. They have to piece

860
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together a fractured legacy.

861
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Speaker 1: But what is so fascinating with the final chapters of

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our history detail is the strategic path they deliberately chose.

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Speaker 2: They looked at the landscape of post war global finance

864
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dominated by massive and personal American corporate banks, and they

865
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made a very conscious decision to not try and become

866
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a modern Wall Street behemoth.

867
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Speaker 1: The London branch Nam Rothschild and Sons takes the lead

868
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in rebuilding the brand.

869
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Speaker 2: But instead of pursuing massive public expansion, opening retail branches

870
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on every corner, or going toe to toe with the

871
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emerging megabanks and retail lending, they consciously preserve their historical

872
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model as an exclusive private club.

873
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Speaker 1: They returned to their absolute core competency, working quietly, directly

874
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and closely with sovereign governments, massive corporations, and financing global elites,

875
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deliberately evading the glare of intense public scrutiny and quarterly

876
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earnings reports.

877
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Speaker 2: But operating in the shadows. Dealing intimately with high net

878
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:06,559
worth individuals and complex corporate structures comes with severe, unique risks,

879
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which brings us.

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Speaker 1: To one of the most wild, almost unbelievable stories in

881
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the entire modern history of the bank, the Robert Maxwell scandal.

882
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Speaker 2: In the nineteen seventies and nineteen eighties, the Rothchilds become

883
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the primary financial backers for a flamboyant media mogul named

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Robert Maxwell.

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Speaker 1: Maxwell's backstory is incredibly intense. He was a Holocaust survivor

886
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who fought for the British in World War Two, changed

887
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his name, and built a massive, sprawling, global publishing and

888
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media empire.

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Speaker 2: He was absolutely driven by a deep seated fear of

890
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ever returning to poverty, and he presented himself as a

891
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titan of industry.

892
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Speaker 1: But Maxwell's sprawling empire was essentially built on sand and leverage.

893
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Speaker 2: To sustain his aggressive, highly publicized corporate expansion and his

894
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incredibly luxurious personal lifestyle, he required continuous massive infusions of

895
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debt capital, and.

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Speaker 1: When the legitimate revenue from his companies wasn't enough to

897
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service that debt, he resorted to staggering systemic fraud.

898
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Speaker 2: The records reveal that he secretly misappropriated hundreds of millions

899
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,159
of dollars directly from his own employees' pension funds to

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prop up his failing company's stock prices.

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Speaker 1: And then, in nineteen ninety one, the story takes a

902
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dark cinematic turn. Maxwell is facing massive debt calls and

903
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the imminent exposure of his fraud.

904
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Speaker 2: He completely vanishes from his luxury private yacht while cruising

905
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off the Canary Islands.

906
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Speaker 1: His body's later found floating in the ocean, and his

907
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,320
death is officially ruled in accidental drowning, though the historical

908
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,480
accounts note that the line between suicide and accident in

909
00:45:32,519 --> 00:45:35,880
these high stakes financial collapses is often heavily blurred.

910
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Speaker 2: When his death blows the lid off the massive embezzlement,

911
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the shockwaves hit the London financial world incredibly hard.

912
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Speaker 1: Now. To be clear, the record state that the Rothschild's

913
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direct knowledge of his illicit misdeeds remains unproven, and they

914
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were not charged with fraud.

915
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Speaker 2: But simply being the primary financier and trusted advisor for

916
00:45:55,559 --> 00:45:59,639
a man executing financial crimes on that scale places a massive,

917
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highly public blemish on the bank's carefully guarded reputation for

918
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discretion and due diligence, and.

919
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Speaker 1: That highly public, embarrassing scandal played directly into a fierce

920
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ideological internal debate that was already tearing at the family fabric.

921
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Speaker 2: During the nineteen eighties, the global financial world was undergoing

922
00:46:16,519 --> 00:46:20,760
a massive, rapid revolution deregulation in London known as the

923
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,800
Big Bang, and in the US was allowing traditional banks

924
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,360
to merge into massive publicly traded mega institutions.

925
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Speaker 1: The rise of complex derivatives options trading in algorithmic models

926
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was creating entirely new, highly lucrative revenue streams that required

927
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massive amounts of capital to exploit.

928
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Speaker 2: Which sparks a generational and deep philosophical feud within the family.

929
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Speaker 1: On one SIDEEA of Jacob Rosschild. He is brilliant, aggressive,

930
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,039
and he looks at Wall Street and argues that the

931
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bank absolutely must adapt to survive.

932
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Speaker 2: He wants aggressive expansion, modern corporate strategies, He wants to

933
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,000
embrace risk, and he wants the integration of these new

934
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financial tools.

935
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Speaker 1: He believes that to me maintain their historical dominance, they

936
00:47:02,159 --> 00:47:04,039
have to play the modern high stakes game.

937
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 2: On the exact opposite side of the boardroom table is

938
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Sir Evelyn de Rothschild, the head of n M Rothschild

939
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:10,920
and Sons.

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Speaker 1: Sir Evelyn is a staunch, unwavering traditionalist. He argues that

941
00:47:15,519 --> 00:47:19,840
modernizing the ownership structure, meaning taking on outside capital, merging

942
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,840
with corporate banks, or God forbid, going public, would fundamentally

943
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,840
destroy the core identity and the soul of the bank.

944
00:47:26,679 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 2: He insists, pointing to crises like the Maxwell scandal that

945
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,559
the institution must remain wholly owned and absolutely controlled by

946
00:47:33,559 --> 00:47:37,039
the family, even if that strict adherence to privacy costs

947
00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:40,079
them massive short term profits and global market share.

948
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Speaker 1: It's the ultimate defining trade off in business, isn't it.

949
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,800
Do you sacrifice your absolute control to loot your ownership

950
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,760
and answer to public shareholders just to generate massive capital

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for expansion.

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Speaker 2: Or do you accept a smaller for print, let your

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rivals get bigger, just to remain the unquestioned private master

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of your own house.

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Speaker 1: For Sir Evelyn, the Maxwell scandal was all the proof

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he needed. It reaffirmed his deep historical belief that opening

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the doors too wide, chasing every high profile, highly leveraged

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deal only exposes the family to uncontrollable risk and public Ruin.

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Speaker 2: Discussion, privacy and control had to remain paramount. The family

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ultimately sides with Evelyn and Jacob Leaves to form his

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own highly successful investment trusts, and.

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Speaker 1: Looking at their position in the modern era twenty twenty

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three and beyond that philosophy, control seemed to have successfully

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guided their evolution.

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Speaker 2: They didn't become a massive public retail banking the he

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myth with ATMs on every corner, like a JP Morgan

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Chase or a city bank.

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Speaker 1: Instead, they massively, quietly diversified their vast wealth behind the scenes.

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They expanded deeply into high end wealth and asset management,

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private equity, complex corporate restructuring, and massive global philanthropy.

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Speaker 2: The original banking houses in Paris, London and Frankfort adapted

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over time, shifting from purely sovereign lending to a much

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wider array of bespoke, highly specialized financial services for the

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ultra wealthy.

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Speaker 1: The history ends on an not that I think really

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resonates when studying any dynasty. It shows that throughout history

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the Rothschilds were obviously never hesitant about aggressively making money.

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Speaker 2: But when it finally came to a conflict between maximizing

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immediate short term profit and maintaining the long term family

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legacy and control, they consistently chose legacy.

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Speaker 1: They were willing to literally walk away from massive global

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opportunities if it threatened their absolute autonomy.

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Speaker 2: It's a level of multi generational discipline that is quite

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frankly terrifying to modern corporate competitors who only think in

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three month quarters.

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Speaker 1: If we synthesize everything we've unpacked today, from Mayor Amshoal

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trading rare coins in a squalid, restricted alleyway in Frankfurt

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to his descendants literally bailing out the United States government

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during a panic. A few absolute core pillars emerge.

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Speaker 2: First, the total weaponization of information and speed.

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Speaker 1: Second, the ruthless objective ability to analyze and leverage geopolitical

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chaos without sentimentality.

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Speaker 2: And third, a structural, almost religious commitment to family unity.

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That function does the ultimate historical hedge against systemic collapse.

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Speaker 1: And what's wild is that the historical threads we've pulled today,

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from front running aristocrats and aggressive supply chain dominance to

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complex foreign exchange speculation and leveraging sovereign debt, these are

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the exact same fabrics that make up the global economy

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you interact with every single day.

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Speaker 2: The technology evolved from heavily guarded carrier pigeons to deep

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sea fiber optic cables, but the fundamental mechanics of leverage,

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capital and power haven't moved an inch in two hundred years.

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Speaker 1: It really forces you to examine the financial institutions and

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the algorithms that dominate our current economic landscape with a

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much more critical historical.

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Speaker 2: Eye exactly, which brings us to a final thought, and

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we really want to hear directly from you on this.

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Speaker 1: We've just been this time analyzing the incredible historic power

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of keeping massive wealth and strategy tightly controlled within a

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single secretive family over centuries, deliberately choosing absolute privacy and

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control over massive public corporate expansion.

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Speaker 2: But when you look at the world today, dominated by massive,

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publicly traded tech mega corporations with millions of shareholders and

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boards of directors, do you think a secretive, tightly held

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family dynasty model could ever rise to that level of

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absolute global supremacy again?

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Speaker 1: Or is that era of history permanently closed.

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Speaker 2: Let us know what you think in the comments. We

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can't wait to read your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: It's a profound question about the future nature of capital,

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it really is.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for taking a seat at the

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table and joining us for this conversation on thrilling threads.