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<v Speaker 1>Using free speech to free minds. You're listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>David Knight Show. Happy Thanksgiving. It's Thanksgiving twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>and there is much to be thankful for. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was only four years ago that America under Trump

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<v Speaker 1>was locking down churches, and three years ago under Biden,

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<v Speaker 1>we had people faced with injecting an unknown toxin or

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<v Speaker 1>losing their job. This year, we have enjoyed liberty and

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<v Speaker 1>peace while we choose between the people who did that

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<v Speaker 1>to us.

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<v Speaker 2>We're thankful to God for this relative liberty and peace

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<v Speaker 2>that we've enjoyed, and we pray for God's protection from

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<v Speaker 2>the new evils that they're looking to unleash on us.

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<v Speaker 2>Today we're going to take a look at our country's

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<v Speaker 2>history and it's Thanksgivings, and we have the best of

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<v Speaker 2>interviews on taxes with Joe Banister and on climate scams

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<v Speaker 2>with Steve molloy. Stay with us, we'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 2>Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge

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<v Speaker 2>the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to

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<v Speaker 2>be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his

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<v Speaker 2>protection and favor. And whereas both Houses of Congress have

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<v Speaker 2>by their joint Committee requested me to recommend to the

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<v Speaker 2>people of the United States a day of public thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 2>and prayer to be observed by acknowledging, with grateful hearts

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<v Speaker 2>the many signal favors of Almighty God, especially them an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their

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<v Speaker 2>safety and happiness. Now, therefore, I do recommend and assign Thursday,

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty sixth of November next to be devoted by

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<v Speaker 2>the people of these States to the service of that

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<v Speaker 2>great and glorious Being who is the beneficent author of

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<v Speaker 2>all good that was, that is, or that will be.

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<v Speaker 2>That we may then all unite in rendering under Him

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<v Speaker 2>our sincere and humble thinks, for his kind care and

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<v Speaker 2>protection of the people of this country previous to their

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<v Speaker 2>becoming a nation, for the signal and manifold mercies and

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<v Speaker 2>the favorable interpositions of His providence which we experience, and

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<v Speaker 2>the course and the conclusion of the late war, And

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<v Speaker 2>for the great degree of tranquility, union, and plenty which

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<v Speaker 2>we have since enjoyed. For the peaceful and rational manner

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<v Speaker 2>in which we have been enabled to establish constitutions government

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<v Speaker 2>for our safety and happiness, and particularly the nation one

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<v Speaker 2>now lately instituted, for the civil and religious liberty with

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<v Speaker 2>which we are blessed, and the means we have of

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<v Speaker 2>acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge, and in general, for all

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<v Speaker 2>the great and various favors which He hath been pleased

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<v Speaker 2>to confer upon us. Also that we may then unite

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<v Speaker 2>in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the

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<v Speaker 2>Great Lord and Ruler of nations, and beseech him to

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<v Speaker 2>pardon our national and other transgressions, to enable us, all,

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<v Speaker 2>whether in public or private stations, to perform our several

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<v Speaker 2>and relative duties properly and punctually. To render our national

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<v Speaker 2>government of blessing to all the people, by constantly being

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<v Speaker 2>a government of wise, just and constitutional laws, discreetly and

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<v Speaker 2>faithfully executed and open bad to protect and guide all

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<v Speaker 2>sovereigns and nations, especially those that have shown kindness to us,

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<v Speaker 2>and to bless them with good government, peace and concord.

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<v Speaker 2>To promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue,

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<v Speaker 2>and the increase of science among them and us, And

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<v Speaker 2>to generally grant unto all mankind such a degree of

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<v Speaker 2>temporal prosperity as he alone knows to be best given

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<v Speaker 2>under my hand. At the City of New York, the

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<v Speaker 2>third day of October and the year of Our Lord,

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen eighty nine, George Washington. Well, you know, when we

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<v Speaker 2>look at this, we talk about making America great again?

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<v Speaker 2>Don't we will God make America grateful again? That was

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<v Speaker 2>our first president. Very different from our last and current presidents.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't you know? God blessed this country because people are

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<v Speaker 2>grateful to Him for the blessing of liberty. Now he

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<v Speaker 2>talked about year of our Lord. Which Lord? Would that be?

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<v Speaker 2>The Lord that we mark time from? The Lord Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's talk a little bit about Thanksgiving. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 2>about God's project, the sixteen twenty project. You know, We've

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<v Speaker 2>got we have a PBS, we have the New York Times,

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<v Speaker 2>we have academia and media are focused on removing God.

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<v Speaker 2>A good example of that is this PBS documentary to

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<v Speaker 2>rewrite History, to take God out of the picture. Listen

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<v Speaker 2>to this trailer for a very expensive and slick production

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<v Speaker 2>produced with your taxpayer dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>If you ask people where does America start, they'll say

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<v Speaker 3>it starts in Plymouth, Rock.

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<v Speaker 2>There's more to the story than the story.

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<v Speaker 4>We all know.

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<v Speaker 5>They were a very small group of very extreme people.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't the people that you would expect to be

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<v Speaker 1>found in a new colony.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a sense that they came to America in search

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<v Speaker 5>of religious freedom.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't the Pilgrims on American Experience. Yeah, there's a sense.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a sense, isn't it that they came to America

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<v Speaker 2>for religious freedom?

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<v Speaker 5>But they didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really, you know better? Right? You know the problem

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<v Speaker 2>is that we have the diaries from the people. We

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<v Speaker 2>have lots of original history. This is not something that

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<v Speaker 2>we have to read tea leaves or go through archaeological

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<v Speaker 2>digs to figure out they kept diaries. PBS knows that

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<v Speaker 2>you're not going to read those diaries, so they can

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<v Speaker 2>lie to you about it. That American Experience quote unquote

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<v Speaker 2>was done before they started the sixteen nineteen project, I believe.

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<v Speaker 2>So they tried to tell you, well, you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>all think of America as beginning with the Pilgrims, and

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<v Speaker 2>for good reason, the Mayflower. But we're going to tell

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<v Speaker 2>you that all that was wrong. We're going to remove

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<v Speaker 2>God from the picture. And then with the Project sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen of the New York Times. What they did was

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<v Speaker 2>they removed the Pilgrims in Mayflower from history. They relocated

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<v Speaker 2>the founding of America from people who were seeking freedom

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<v Speaker 2>from religious persecution, who just sought to live a life

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<v Speaker 2>of independence with their families, away from religious persecution, and

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<v Speaker 2>they changed it to Jamestown sixteen nineteen Project sixteen nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did they do that well, because Jamestown was a

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<v Speaker 2>very different colony. Jamestown was more focused on economics. People

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people who went to Jason and it

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<v Speaker 2>was only after the initial first few years that they

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<v Speaker 2>actually started bringing families. For the most part, there are

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<v Speaker 2>people who are trying to make an economic start for themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Many of them came as indentured servants. After a few years,

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<v Speaker 2>they replaced the European indentured servants who could work their

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<v Speaker 2>way out. They replaced them with chattel slavery, African slaves.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's what they want to focus on with America.

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<v Speaker 2>So four hundred years later, those who seek to destroy

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<v Speaker 2>our nation are busy destroying both its history and it's

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<v Speaker 2>Christian principles. And that America was shaped by Christian principles. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the leaders were not perfect, you know, and they did

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<v Speaker 2>not follow those principles, but that was what they aspired to.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, none of us are perfect either, none of us.

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<v Speaker 2>So when they go back, you go back and say, well, look,

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<v Speaker 2>their theology was wrong here or there, or they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>do this, or they didn't do that, or they kept

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<v Speaker 2>slaves or they did whatever. Yeah, they were hypocrites, just

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<v Speaker 2>as we are all hypocrites. But they aspired to Christian

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<v Speaker 2>principles and it was those Christian principles that laid the

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<v Speaker 2>foundation for our country legally as well as culturally. So

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<v Speaker 2>today we're going to talk about Thanksgiving and they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have some best of interviews that'll finish the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the program today. But you know, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of different lessons that we can take from Thanksgiving and

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<v Speaker 2>that have been done in the past. We could talk

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<v Speaker 2>about Thanksgiving and the triumph of private property and personal

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<v Speaker 2>responsibility over the tragedy of the commons. That's something that's

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<v Speaker 2>been very popular with conservatives to talk about, and it

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<v Speaker 2>is true. You know, when pilgrims landed, they went through

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<v Speaker 2>some very severe times. As Bradford Another's point out look

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we nearly starved because first of all, they

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<v Speaker 2>came relying on God and not really knowing much about agriculture.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about that in a moment. But they also

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to have everything in common. They're Christians, so it

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, yeah, we're all Christians, so let's not

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<v Speaker 2>have everything in common. And the problem is is that's

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<v Speaker 2>the tragedy of the commons. Nobody had the private property

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<v Speaker 2>of the personal responsibility to make this stuff happen. And

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<v Speaker 2>guess what, it didn't happen, and so they changed. Everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have a plot of land that's gonna be your land.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna grow your food. If you've got extra food,

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<v Speaker 2>you can help the people who didn't do a good job.

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<v Speaker 2>But everybody's gonna work on this. That was an important lesson.

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<v Speaker 2>Russian Limbo used to talk about that on a regular basis.

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<v Speaker 2>That was kind of his take on Thanksgiving, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>an important lesson, and it's a true lesson. We could

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<v Speaker 2>also talk about the peace and the harmony of different

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<v Speaker 2>tongues and tribes to make a unified nation. Eventually, that

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<v Speaker 2>was the narrative in the mid twentieth century when I

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<v Speaker 2>was growing up, it was very popular America as a

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<v Speaker 2>melting pot different cultures coming together for a common nation

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<v Speaker 2>to build that nation that was the America of the

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<v Speaker 2>immigrants of my parents' generation and the ones before that.

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<v Speaker 2>They would come to America because they wanted to join America.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't want to just they wanted to they embraced

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<v Speaker 2>American values. They weren't just coming so they could have

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<v Speaker 2>the material wealth that we have, but they wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>become Americans, not just come for economic reasons and head

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<v Speaker 2>back to wherever they came from, or not just to

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<v Speaker 2>take over, but they wanted to embrace the values that

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<v Speaker 2>they had seen in this country. That was a very

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<v Speaker 2>real narrative, and in this story you could see the

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<v Speaker 2>Pilgrims and the Indians coming together. This is the way

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<v Speaker 2>that it was typically taught to me in the government

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<v Speaker 2>school at that time. They would talk about how these

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<v Speaker 2>two different groups had come together. They would build and

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<v Speaker 2>use each other's strengths and build something that was stronger

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<v Speaker 2>than what they had individually, take the best from each other.

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<v Speaker 2>But that is totally different from what we're taught today today.

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<v Speaker 2>The communists who run our institutions are determined to enhance

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<v Speaker 2>our differences and to make us hate each other for

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<v Speaker 2>those differences, instead of coming together and becoming stronger, taking

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<v Speaker 2>the best that each of us have, and creating something

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<v Speaker 2>that is new. That was what America was always about.

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<v Speaker 2>But today every difference is magnified and used to divide

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<v Speaker 2>us because as how the communists seek to the story

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<v Speaker 2>of this country, so that narratives somewhat diminished. And they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't just come together. If you go back and you

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<v Speaker 2>look at the history, they didn't just come together for

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<v Speaker 2>a meal and then start shooting at each other. They

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<v Speaker 2>lived together peacefully for fifty five years, from sixteen twenty

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<v Speaker 2>to sixteen seventy five until they had King Phillips. Or Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it was not perfect, because human beings are not perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>There were encroachments on both sides. There'd be flare ups

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<v Speaker 2>and other crimes, and you know, within their communities of course,

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<v Speaker 2>but then when it was between the two different communities,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when things got a little bit more complicated. But

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<v Speaker 2>they ironed out those differences and they had peace. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, for fifty five years, that's not too bad.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a couple of generations. Do we do that well today?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, God never talks about different races. By the way, right,

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<v Speaker 2>these are two tribes coming out. He had the tribes

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<v Speaker 2>of the Pilgrims, and he had some of the Indian tribes,

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<v Speaker 2>several different Indian tribes that were there. And the Indian

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<v Speaker 2>tribes had differences amongst themselves. They were not I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>genius group that was always at peace with each other either.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you have different tribes, you have different tongues,

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<v Speaker 2>talk about different races in the Bible. He talks about nations, tongues,

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<v Speaker 2>and tribes. You know, Michael Savage talks about borders, language,

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible. You know, this is something that runs throughout

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<v Speaker 2>ancient writings. But it's true nevertheless, And so God goes

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<v Speaker 2>on further. I mean, we don't have different races. He

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<v Speaker 2>has made all nations of one blood. We're all descended

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<v Speaker 2>all of one blood. That was how the Pilgrims saw it.

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<v Speaker 2>spreading it. But we could look at that aspect of

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<v Speaker 2>look at it as the historical significance of the mayf

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<v Speaker 2>Ower Compact, or is it's more accurately described the may

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<v Speaker 2>Flower Combination. This is the document that they put together

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<v Speaker 2>themselves and they realized that they were out of the

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<v Speaker 2>legal jurisdiction of where they were headed, and they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>much a political document. It was a groundbreaking moment, a

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<v Speaker 2>become the instruments of governance. You know, it is there

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<v Speaker 2>as the foundation that was later built upon with the

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<v Speaker 2>Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Many other things. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>what they wrote when they realized they weren't a place

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<v Speaker 2>that they had not intended to go, and that there

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<v Speaker 2>was no contract, no legal definition of how they were

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<v Speaker 2>to operate. This is what they said. So just keep

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<v Speaker 2>in mind what the American experience, what PBS is telling you.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't do this because of religion. Oh really, did

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<v Speaker 2>they even bother to read the Mayflower Combination or the Compact,

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<v Speaker 2>if you will, in the name of God, Amen, that's

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<v Speaker 2>how they begin it. We whose names are underwritten the

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<v Speaker 2>loyal subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord, King James, by

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<v Speaker 2>King Defender of the Faith, et cetera, having undertaken, for

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<v Speaker 2>Faith and the honor of our King and country, a

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<v Speaker 2>voyage to plant the first colony in the northern parts

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<v Speaker 2>of Virginia, Do, by these presents solemnly and mutually end

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<v Speaker 2>the presence of God and one another covenant, and combine

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves together into a civil body politic for our better

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<v Speaker 2>ordering and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid, and

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<v Speaker 2>by virtue Hereo do enact, constitute, and frame such just

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<v Speaker 2>and equal laws, ordinances, acts, constitutions, and officers, from time

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<v Speaker 2>for the general good of the colony, unto which we

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<v Speaker 2>promise all due submission and obedience and witness. Whereof we

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<v Speaker 2>have hereunto subscribed our names at Cape Cod the eleventh

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<v Speaker 2>of November, and the reign of our Sovereign Lord, King

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<v Speaker 2>James of England, France and Ireland, the eighteenth end of

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<v Speaker 2>Scotland the fifty fourth no domini that means year of

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<v Speaker 2>our Lord, sixteen twenty. So the Mayflower Compact is America's

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<v Speaker 2>foundational document. PBS wants you to believe that had nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do with God. You didn't hear anything about God

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<v Speaker 2>in there, did you? Evidently? PBS didn't. They have a

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<v Speaker 2>much shorter document that they redacted God from, evidently, as

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<v Speaker 2>well as from all the diaries and recorded history of

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<v Speaker 2>the time. As Wilmore Kendall and George Carey said in

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<v Speaker 2>their book Basic Symbols, the Compact is a symbol around

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<v Speaker 2>which both the Declaration of Independence and the co Constitution

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<v Speaker 2>is built upon. It did not have a formal title,

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<v Speaker 2>as the Declaration of Independence. It was referred to by

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<v Speaker 2>the people who live there and their descendants as not

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<v Speaker 2>by the compact, but by the combination. Let me see,

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<v Speaker 2>when I was saying that we do hereby covenant and

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<v Speaker 2>combine ourselves, and so they called it the combination. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's how it was referred to by that community and

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<v Speaker 2>the people who lived there up until the seventeen nineties,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it was referred to as the Mayflower Compact.

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<v Speaker 2>Many people who look at that believe that it was

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<v Speaker 2>that was more of a reflection of a more secularized

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<v Speaker 2>view of this. They could have called it the Covenant,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think they were out of respect. They would

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<v Speaker 2>look at you covenant as being something that was more religious,

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<v Speaker 2>so they called it the combination. But bottom line is

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<v Speaker 2>that this is more than just about semantics. The combination

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<v Speaker 2>was really about creating a society even more so than

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<v Speaker 2>a form of government, the Declaration of Independence. The Constitution

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<v Speaker 2>would add more political theories and ideas and political structures

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<v Speaker 2>at a later time, but that was really what it

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<v Speaker 2>was built upon. There was an interesting comment on all

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<v Speaker 2>this by a history professor from Hillsdale College, Bradley Burser.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a Roman Cathol, and he points out, he says,

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<v Speaker 2>this could never have been composed by anyone but the

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<v Speaker 2>most Protestant of Protestants. Indeed, even as a practicing Roman Catholic,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a hard time imagining the same scene being

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<v Speaker 2>played out by French, Spanish or Portuguese settlers. No, this

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the great fruits of Protestantism, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably one that we Catholics should take the heart, especially

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<v Speaker 2>as we continue to struggle over issues or religious freedom

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<v Speaker 2>and freedom of conscience in our rather fallen world of

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty first century. He goes on, He says, importantly,

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<v Speaker 2>the authors of the combination never assert the existence of

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<v Speaker 2>a quote state of nature, you know, walk in obsien

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<v Speaker 2>ideas that came later, by the way. Instead, they recognize

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<v Speaker 2>that they are beholden to Scripture, to tradition, to a

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<v Speaker 2>hierarchical authority, and to the English common law. And yet

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<v Speaker 2>they were not prepared either to destroy these ties nor

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<v Speaker 2>to leave them out completely. Instead, they looked out upon

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<v Speaker 2>land of sorts. Here they could take the best of

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<v Speaker 2>the past, but they could implement it as they so desired.

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<v Speaker 2>Would it be good if we were to do the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing today? All around the world we have statues

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<v Speaker 2>being destroyed, monuments being destroyed. The foundations of our society

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<v Speaker 2>are being destroyed by Marxists who look for any imperfection

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<v Speaker 2>or hypocrisy in the lives of the people who laid

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<v Speaker 2>down the foundations of our society in order to destroy

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<v Speaker 2>our society. The wise path is to always take the

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<v Speaker 2>good aspects of what went before us, eat the chicken

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<v Speaker 2>and leave the bones if you will. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>can take a look at Martin Luther King, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>on his infidelities. You could focus on what many people

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<v Speaker 2>you could take a look at his speeches, his inspirational

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<v Speaker 2>speeches where he said we should judge people by the

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<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't that be nice if we were to do that today?

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<v Speaker 2>That is antithetical to what the left wants to do today.

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<v Speaker 2>So we take the best from people, We try to

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<v Speaker 2>ignore the imperfections that are always there. Whether you're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Martin Luther King or Thomas Jefferson. We try to

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<v Speaker 2>ignore those perfections and take the wisdom from their life,

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<v Speaker 2>learn the lessons from their life. That's what we ought

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<v Speaker 2>on to say he was at Hillsdale College. He always

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<v Speaker 2>likes to do a lecture on the Mayflower Combination. He says,

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<v Speaker 2>As I prepared the lecture, I racked my brain trying

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<v Speaker 2>to remember an example of another earlier assertion of self government.

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<v Speaker 2>Had the Greeks done it or the Jews. No, they

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<v Speaker 2>had already relied upon a law giver. The Romans asserted

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<v Speaker 2>something in five nine BC, but I'm not sure that

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<v Speaker 2>it had quite the same texture. That's what the Pilgrims

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<v Speaker 2>did in sixteen twenty. I really couldn't come up with

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<v Speaker 2>a significant example. For all intents and purposes, the Plymouth

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<v Speaker 2>Combination is the first real assertion of the right of

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<v Speaker 2>self governance in the modern Western world, and one of

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<v Speaker 2>the most important in any time or place. As Kendall

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<v Speaker 2>and carry wisely claim, the sixteen to twenty document did

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<v Speaker 2>not need to assert any rights overtly as rights. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>the very short paragraph the document as a whole is

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<v Speaker 2>an assertion of the right. It is a basic symbol. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the name of their book, Basic Symbols. So it

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<v Speaker 2>drew on the religious roots of America that can be

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<v Speaker 2>seen in the Pilgrims in the Mayflower combination. Did the Constitution?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the Constitution begins we the people, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it goes into the purpose of the Constitution. One of

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<v Speaker 2>the key ones is to secure the blessings of liberty

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<v Speaker 2>for ourselves and our prosperity. You know, atheists don't talk

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<v Speaker 2>about blessings. You won't see PBS talking about blessings, not

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<v Speaker 2>at all. A blessing is something that is given who

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<v Speaker 2>It's inscribed with Leviticus twenty five ten and it reads,

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<v Speaker 2>proclaim liberty throughout the land to all inhabitants thereof. Now

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<v Speaker 2>the context there of what was being talked about in

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<v Speaker 2>Leviticus twenty five. The context was about the year of Jubilee.

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<v Speaker 2>Every fiftieth year they would have all debts would be canceled.

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<v Speaker 2>of Jubilee, and that was that inscription was put on

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<v Speaker 2>the liberty. Bell founders of America from sixteen twenty to

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<v Speaker 2>the creation of the Constitution saw liberty as a blessing,

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<v Speaker 2>over again. And the second half of that to ourselves

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<v Speaker 2>and to our p posterity. So when we look at

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<v Speaker 2>the pilgrims, we look at the founders of this nation,

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<v Speaker 2>they were very different in their perspective than our society

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<v Speaker 2>is today. They were focused on their children. Their hearts

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<v Speaker 2>always see that as an indication of God's movement and

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<v Speaker 2>a people. God moves them to blessing by turning their

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<v Speaker 2>hearts toward their children. That makes a big difference in

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<v Speaker 2>the way that you behave, the way that you think,

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<v Speaker 2>the way that you build a life. Instead, in our

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<v Speaker 2>society and a time of decadence and degradation, people of

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<v Speaker 2>our society who become lovers of self. So that's the

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<v Speaker 2>of for blessing. If and when God changes our hearts

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<v Speaker 2>turns them towards our children. Then he'll be preparing us

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<v Speaker 2>to bless us. We can see that in the Pilgrims

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<v Speaker 2>and in the founders of this country. But today I

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about something else that is rarely talked about,

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<v Speaker 2>even in conservative circles. People will talk about the legal

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<v Speaker 2>issues and the precedents and the historical importance of the

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<v Speaker 2>Mayflower Compact or the combination. They will talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>peace and community. They don't do that too much anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Between the Indians and the Pilgrims. They'll talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>econo aspects. That's really where conservatives focused today because we're

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<v Speaker 2>all about the money, right, Hey, it's the economy, stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything is about the money. But I want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>responsibility over the tragedy of the commons. It's far more

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<v Speaker 2>important than groups of people cooperating and coming together peacefully.

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<v Speaker 2>It's far more important than any legal document, no matter

418
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<v Speaker 2>how much of a precedent it sets. And that's God's

419
00:30:43.039 --> 00:30:48.799
<v Speaker 2>providence and care. So that was what was foremost in

420
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:52.920
<v Speaker 2>the minds of the pilgrims as well. And if you

421
00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:56.559
<v Speaker 2>were to talk to them, or if you read their writing,

422
00:30:57.839 --> 00:30:59.440
<v Speaker 2>there's one way to talk to them if you will

423
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:03.279
<v Speaker 2>listen to them. If you listen to them, you'll see

424
00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:07.319
<v Speaker 2>that they're not bragging about what they did. They give

425
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:10.640
<v Speaker 2>the glory to God. They honor God. They would say

426
00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:15.000
<v Speaker 2>that and did say it over and over again. Today

427
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:19.480
<v Speaker 2>in many ways, we are like them. We are pilgrims

428
00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:23.960
<v Speaker 2>and strangers on this earth. That is a Christian idea.

429
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:29.119
<v Speaker 2>In our journey. We also need to acknowledge how we

430
00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:31.400
<v Speaker 2>need God. We also need to look to Him to

431
00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:37.119
<v Speaker 2>provision and for providence as they did, and we need

432
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:41.519
<v Speaker 2>to honor Him when he provides. So, you know, I

433
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:45.640
<v Speaker 2>look at this and a lot of people in America

434
00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:49.000
<v Speaker 2>we've had so many immigrants slightly and a lot of

435
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:52.519
<v Speaker 2>people say, you know, they're hyphenated Americans or whatever said

436
00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:54.240
<v Speaker 2>in the past. When I first met Karen, she was

437
00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:58.319
<v Speaker 2>from New York and she was second generation of people

438
00:31:58.359 --> 00:32:00.519
<v Speaker 2>who had come some of them from hole On, some

439
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:03.599
<v Speaker 2>of them from Italy. And so when we met, she

440
00:32:03.640 --> 00:32:06.240
<v Speaker 2>asked me, where are you from? You know, wait, you

441
00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:09.519
<v Speaker 2>mean I'm from America. I'm just an American. I don't

442
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:11.920
<v Speaker 2>know where they came from. I never did go back

443
00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:15.559
<v Speaker 2>and look, I don't know if I have any any

444
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:20.720
<v Speaker 2>physical connection to the people who were there at the Mayflower,

445
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:23.160
<v Speaker 2>or if it was to somebody who came later. You know,

446
00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:25.920
<v Speaker 2>quite frankly, it doesn't matter. A lot of people would

447
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:30.799
<v Speaker 2>get very precious about all that. Oh, I'm descended from

448
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:33.720
<v Speaker 2>so and so right, or I'm descended from this person

449
00:32:33.720 --> 00:32:37.400
<v Speaker 2>who was a passenger on the Mayflower. What difference does

450
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:41.079
<v Speaker 2>that make, especially four hundred years later, any kind of

451
00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:46.400
<v Speaker 2>physical genetic connection that we have to these people has

452
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:49.160
<v Speaker 2>been so diluted. If we could go back in our

453
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:51.599
<v Speaker 2>family trees and our genealogy and find a connection to it,

454
00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:53.880
<v Speaker 2>it's been so deluded it doesn't make any sense anymore.

455
00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:59.279
<v Speaker 2>It's not worth talking about. But there are other ways

456
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:03.519
<v Speaker 2>that we could see ourselves as connected to them, and

457
00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:11.039
<v Speaker 2>I feel a stronger kinship to them from a spiritual standpoint,

458
00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:16.880
<v Speaker 2>forget about the physical standpoint. Any of us, by the way,

459
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:21.400
<v Speaker 2>regardless of the nation, tongue, or tribe, even if you're

460
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:27.079
<v Speaker 2>in another country, you could feel a kind of kinship

461
00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:30.920
<v Speaker 2>with them. If you see yourself as a pilgrim and

462
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:34.079
<v Speaker 2>a stranger in this land who is dependent on the

463
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:39.599
<v Speaker 2>providence of God. So I want to just briefly go

464
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:42.799
<v Speaker 2>over you know, what is providence? How did the hand

465
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:45.240
<v Speaker 2>of providence guide and protect the Pilgrims? What are the

466
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:50.000
<v Speaker 2>lessons for those of us who live today, especially for

467
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:56.799
<v Speaker 2>Americans who seek comfort and ease above everything else. And

468
00:33:56.839 --> 00:33:58.319
<v Speaker 2>then how do we pass this on to our kid

469
00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:00.240
<v Speaker 2>That's why I've got this thing up here to talk

470
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:01.480
<v Speaker 2>a little bit about what we used to do with

471
00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:06.599
<v Speaker 2>our kids. So what is providence? Well, the dictionary will

472
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:14.239
<v Speaker 2>define it as care or preparation in advance, foresight, or

473
00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:16.960
<v Speaker 2>divine direction. And I think all of these things are

474
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:19.960
<v Speaker 2>seen in the story of the Pilgrims. We can see

475
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:23.360
<v Speaker 2>the care, the preparation in advanced by God. We can

476
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:27.199
<v Speaker 2>see his foresight and his divine direction. I have a

477
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:31.199
<v Speaker 2>different definition of providence. I kind of think of it

478
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:37.039
<v Speaker 2>as a chain of stealth miracles, things that you wouldn't

479
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:39.840
<v Speaker 2>recognize as a miracle. They seem pretty ordinary. If you

480
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:41.559
<v Speaker 2>looked at any one of them, you'd say, well, you know,

481
00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:43.559
<v Speaker 2>or even just a couple of them together, you'd say, well,

482
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:45.639
<v Speaker 2>it's just a coincidence of these things happen. Well, that's

483
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:51.119
<v Speaker 2>really nice, but it just happened. Happenstance. Now, you know.

484
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes God will answer a prayer miraculously. Sometimes he'll heal

485
00:34:56.000 --> 00:35:03.800
<v Speaker 2>people miraculously. I have two volumes of books about verified

486
00:35:03.960 --> 00:35:09.960
<v Speaker 2>eyewitness stories about miraculous healings. Many of them just you know,

487
00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:14.519
<v Speaker 2>based on prayer. You know, some of them radio station,

488
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:20.559
<v Speaker 2>some one calls in and they're in a serious condition.

489
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:24.559
<v Speaker 2>They put out a prayer and there's an amazing healing

490
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:27.960
<v Speaker 2>that happens after that. So God will sometimes do that.

491
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:30.920
<v Speaker 2>He still does that, He's still in the miracle business.

492
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:37.119
<v Speaker 2>I would I always recommend that you read diaries of

493
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:42.039
<v Speaker 2>people who have been able to experience that type of

494
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:45.679
<v Speaker 2>provision and miraculous work. But a lot of times it's

495
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:49.519
<v Speaker 2>just a series of little things that happen.

496
00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:50.079
<v Speaker 5>You know.

497
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:53.239
<v Speaker 2>George Muller is a good example of somebody who had

498
00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:57.239
<v Speaker 2>was used by God. Sometimes, you know, he would be

499
00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:00.599
<v Speaker 2>out of money completely. He had orphans that he had

500
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:04.880
<v Speaker 2>stepped up to take care of and he was absolutely penniless.

501
00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:11.039
<v Speaker 2>Orphans were a very big problem in Victorian England that

502
00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Charles Dickens would write about all the time, he took

503
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:15.760
<v Speaker 2>them in to feed them, to give them an education,

504
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:18.960
<v Speaker 2>to give them a moral foundation. He took the responsibility

505
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:22.320
<v Speaker 2>for them, but he gave the responsibility for taking care

506
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:26.960
<v Speaker 2>of them to God. And so one day, just one example,

507
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:30.239
<v Speaker 2>but one of the most interesting examples, I think, but

508
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:32.199
<v Speaker 2>he had several of these. I won't say just this

509
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:35.880
<v Speaker 2>one one. But they had absolutely no money, had a

510
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:38.360
<v Speaker 2>couple dozen orphans at the time. It got to be

511
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:43.800
<v Speaker 2>a very very large enterprise eventually, and he never became rich,

512
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:50.280
<v Speaker 2>but he prayed because they had no food. And pretty

513
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:51.599
<v Speaker 2>soon there was a knock in the door and there

514
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:57.719
<v Speaker 2>was a guy who's who just came with some bread.

515
00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:01.239
<v Speaker 2>He had some extra bread and it was left over,

516
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:03.159
<v Speaker 2>so he just brought it to the door, so they

517
00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:05.800
<v Speaker 2>had bread. Shortly after that, he gets another knock on

518
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:07.599
<v Speaker 2>the door and there's a guy with a milk truck

519
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:11.760
<v Speaker 2>and it broke down in front of their house, and

520
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:15.000
<v Speaker 2>so they all had milk provided for them that day

521
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:17.119
<v Speaker 2>as well. Now you can look at that you say, well,

522
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:21.199
<v Speaker 2>it's just a coincidence, or you could say it's providential

523
00:37:21.239 --> 00:37:24.000
<v Speaker 2>or miraculous. But I think you know, when we look

524
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:28.440
<v Speaker 2>at a lot of ordinary things that happened. Sometimes we

525
00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:29.920
<v Speaker 2>can go back and we can say, well, what's the

526
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:33.159
<v Speaker 2>chance of that happened. What's the chance of this guy

527
00:37:33.280 --> 00:37:35.800
<v Speaker 2>breaking down in front of his house with a lot

528
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:37.719
<v Speaker 2>of milk that's going to spoil he just gives it

529
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:39.199
<v Speaker 2>to them because he can't do anything with it. Or

530
00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:42.000
<v Speaker 2>the same thing with the guy with the bread. Well,

531
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:43.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, either one of those things could have happened.

532
00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:50.280
<v Speaker 2>And yet for both of them to happen, and for

533
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:52.760
<v Speaker 2>both of them to happen after he had prayed for

534
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:57.960
<v Speaker 2>food and you know, for bread and milk, that is

535
00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:00.280
<v Speaker 2>a little bit different. So you want to call that

536
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:03.119
<v Speaker 2>a miracle, you want to call it providence. So, without

537
00:38:03.159 --> 00:38:06.119
<v Speaker 2>going into detail of the story of both the Pilgrims

538
00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:09.320
<v Speaker 2>and of Squanto, these are a couple of different stories

539
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:12.960
<v Speaker 2>that intertwine with each other. That's one of the things

540
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:17.639
<v Speaker 2>that I find interesting about the story of Thanksgiving and

541
00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:25.000
<v Speaker 2>the Pilgrims. They both went through tremendous hardship and God

542
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:29.719
<v Speaker 2>interwove their stories together to combine them. You know, we

543
00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:33.480
<v Speaker 2>talked about the Mayfiwer combination. This is the combination, the

544
00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:37.880
<v Speaker 2>combination that God does how he changes things in their

545
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:43.280
<v Speaker 2>life shapes them by the difficult things in their life

546
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:45.960
<v Speaker 2>and then brings them together to build something that's even bigger.

547
00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:51.599
<v Speaker 2>It really embodies all of those previous things that I

548
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:57.480
<v Speaker 2>talked about, but a much more important way. The financial

549
00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:01.039
<v Speaker 2>aspects of it, the combination aspects of it, building of

550
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:05.880
<v Speaker 2>a common thing with disparate people, different backgrounds, different nations,

551
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:11.000
<v Speaker 2>tongues and tribes. So you know, when the Pilgrims came,

552
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:15.559
<v Speaker 2>they had gone through a very difficult time of religious persecution.

553
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:19.239
<v Speaker 2>They had been jailed, they had lost property, they had

554
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:22.559
<v Speaker 2>to flee. They fled to Holland. There in Holland, they

555
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:27.119
<v Speaker 2>were left alone. It was a very rich and secular country,

556
00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:33.400
<v Speaker 2>very much like America today and in that regard, so

557
00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:37.280
<v Speaker 2>they didn't bother with them. They frankly didn't care too

558
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:40.480
<v Speaker 2>much about it. And so the pilgrim stayed there for

559
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:42.760
<v Speaker 2>a while. But then they started realized that there was

560
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:48.599
<v Speaker 2>something that was very seductive in this secular materialism.

561
00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:48.880
<v Speaker 5>There.

562
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:54.519
<v Speaker 2>There was also an immorality that was hanging around. They

563
00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:56.400
<v Speaker 2>felt that they would lose their kids, so they decided

564
00:39:56.440 --> 00:39:58.400
<v Speaker 2>that it would be better for them if they were

565
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:02.280
<v Speaker 2>to start a new life, a parallel society. If you

566
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:05.719
<v Speaker 2>will and to do it. In America, we don't have

567
00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:08.280
<v Speaker 2>the option of immigration today, but we do have the

568
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:14.079
<v Speaker 2>option of being pilgrims and setting up a parallel society.

569
00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:18.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, the Puritans had tried to purify their society

570
00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:21.400
<v Speaker 2>by staying there. The pilgrim said, that's okay, We're going

571
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:24.679
<v Speaker 2>to go do our own thing. There are elements of

572
00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:27.280
<v Speaker 2>both of those things that we should and could do today,

573
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:31.039
<v Speaker 2>but I think the pilgrim side of it is going

574
00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:34.840
<v Speaker 2>to be the most important, the parallel society. And so,

575
00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:37.400
<v Speaker 2>as I said, they had suffered a great deal of persecution,

576
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:40.119
<v Speaker 2>and then as their journey began, there was even more persecution.

577
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:45.119
<v Speaker 2>There's even more difficulty. They had three ships worth of

578
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:49.639
<v Speaker 2>people and their possessions. One of them was not seaworthy.

579
00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:51.760
<v Speaker 2>They had to turn back. They had to pack everybody

580
00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:58.079
<v Speaker 2>in those two remaining ships. We have been to Plymouth

581
00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:02.760
<v Speaker 2>and we've seen the the historical community that's there. We've

582
00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:05.960
<v Speaker 2>gotten onto the ship. That was unbelievable that they would

583
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:07.840
<v Speaker 2>have over one hundred people there. It's like, I don't

584
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:10.000
<v Speaker 2>know what they did. Was it like standing room only?

585
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Did they stand the entire time? It was horrific. The

586
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:17.960
<v Speaker 2>conditions that they were under, very long journey by sale,

587
00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:21.199
<v Speaker 2>and of course they had storms, they had damage, the

588
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:25.519
<v Speaker 2>main mast was broken, they nearly lost, were lost at sea,

589
00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:29.760
<v Speaker 2>but they were able to get this together with God's

590
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:32.360
<v Speaker 2>help and providence and provision, and they were able to

591
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:34.559
<v Speaker 2>make the journey. But then instead of being able to

592
00:41:34.559 --> 00:41:37.280
<v Speaker 2>go to northern Virginia, they were pushed ashore by more

593
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:46.800
<v Speaker 2>storms into the Massachusetts area what would become the Massachusetts area.

594
00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:49.320
<v Speaker 2>And so they knew they were in the wrong place.

595
00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:51.480
<v Speaker 2>They tried to get out several times, they got kept

596
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:54.039
<v Speaker 2>getting pushed back and pushed back and push back. So

597
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:57.280
<v Speaker 2>finally it's like, well, this is where we're supposed to be.

598
00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:00.159
<v Speaker 2>We can't get anywhere else. That's why they put together

599
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:04.679
<v Speaker 2>the Mayflower combination. And then when they landed they were

600
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:10.719
<v Speaker 2>met by an Indian. He spoke perfect English. What a

601
00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:15.119
<v Speaker 2>strange thing. They're absolutely amazed by that. And of course

602
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:18.559
<v Speaker 2>the area where they landed another interesting coincidence, isn't it.

603
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:26.320
<v Speaker 2>The area where they landed was uninhabited. The village had

604
00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:29.920
<v Speaker 2>been wiped out with disease. And the Indian who spoke

605
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:34.159
<v Speaker 2>English was Squanto. His journey had also been difficult he

606
00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:41.000
<v Speaker 2>had been captured, kidnapped by some Spanish explorers or tradesmen

607
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:43.599
<v Speaker 2>or whatever they were, and taken back as a slave

608
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:48.199
<v Speaker 2>to Spain. Eventually he was given to you know, he

609
00:42:48.360 --> 00:42:51.760
<v Speaker 2>was taught agriculture and some other things by a Spanish monk,

610
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:56.840
<v Speaker 2>and then eventually he gets to England. He learns English

611
00:42:57.039 --> 00:43:03.559
<v Speaker 2>and he is put in position of responsibility. He accompanies

612
00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:07.119
<v Speaker 2>an English expedition to the area. They liked him enough

613
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:12.079
<v Speaker 2>that they gave him his freedom. But the heartbreak that

614
00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:15.239
<v Speaker 2>he had was when he went back home. Nobody survived.

615
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:17.320
<v Speaker 2>They'd all been wiped out by disease. And so he's

616
00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:22.480
<v Speaker 2>there by himself. But he's learned English and he's been

617
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:28.760
<v Speaker 2>taught agricultural techniques that the Pilgrims did not know. They

618
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:32.599
<v Speaker 2>were really more focused on why they wanted to go

619
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:35.119
<v Speaker 2>and you know, for religious liberty than there were the

620
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:37.840
<v Speaker 2>practical aspects of it. They were ill equipped to survive.

621
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:43.119
<v Speaker 2>But God used the hardship of both of these, both

622
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:47.880
<v Speaker 2>the Pilgrims and of Squanta, so they could help each other.

623
00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:54.800
<v Speaker 2>And you know, this is really the lesson of providence.

624
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<v Speaker 2>If you look at the words of the hymn, God

625
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<v Speaker 2>moves in mysterious ways. Think about how this is so

626
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<v Speaker 2>similar to what the pilgrims went through and squanto. God

627
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:11.159
<v Speaker 2>moves the mysterious ways as wonders to perform. He plants

628
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<v Speaker 2>his footsteps in the sea and rides upon the storm,

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<v Speaker 2>deep and unfathomable minds of never failing skill. He treasures

630
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<v Speaker 2>up his bright designs and works his sovereign will ye

631
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:30.559
<v Speaker 2>fearful saints, fresh courage. Take the crump clouds you so

632
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<v Speaker 2>much dread, are big with mercy and shall break in

633
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<v Speaker 2>blessings on your head. Judge not the Lord by feeble sense,

634
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:42.840
<v Speaker 2>but trust him for his grace. Behind a frowning providence,

635
00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:48.559
<v Speaker 2>he hides a smiling face. His purposes will ripen fast,

636
00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:52.719
<v Speaker 2>unfolding every hour. The bud may have a bitter taste,

637
00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:57.840
<v Speaker 2>but sweet will be the flower. Blind unbelief is sure

638
00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:02.679
<v Speaker 2>to err and scan his in vain. God is his

639
00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:08.440
<v Speaker 2>own interpreter, and he will make it plain. So how

640
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<v Speaker 2>do we teach this important lesson over the years? I'll

641
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:15.679
<v Speaker 2>just give you some of our personal experience. I have

642
00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:18.199
<v Speaker 2>people ask you what's some of the curriculum that you use?

643
00:45:18.519 --> 00:45:22.000
<v Speaker 2>And I need to get some of that together. But

644
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:24.119
<v Speaker 2>there's always new things that are being put out, and

645
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<v Speaker 2>things that we used twenty twenty five years ago, they're

646
00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:32.440
<v Speaker 2>not available anymore. Focus on the Family still has a

647
00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:39.159
<v Speaker 2>great audiobook dramatization of the story of Squanto. That's one

648
00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:41.039
<v Speaker 2>that we listened to many times with our children. But

649
00:45:41.079 --> 00:45:43.599
<v Speaker 2>it's a story that you would enjoy as an adult

650
00:45:43.639 --> 00:45:46.239
<v Speaker 2>if you haven't heard it. It's a great production. I

651
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<v Speaker 2>would highly recommend that, and I'm sure that is still available.

652
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<v Speaker 2>We also used and that's why I have this up here.

653
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<v Speaker 2>We use this box. This is it's called Thanks Living

654
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<v Speaker 2>Treasury and I looked online and I don't think that

655
00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:06.440
<v Speaker 2>this is sold anymore, but that doesn't mean that you

656
00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:09.920
<v Speaker 2>can't do something similar to it.

657
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<v Speaker 5>It was.

658
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<v Speaker 2>We'll get out the book here. It was done by

659
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:22.519
<v Speaker 2>FamilyLife dot Com division of Campus Crusade for Christ and

660
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<v Speaker 2>it is set up over a week, so it's almost

661
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:30.559
<v Speaker 2>like a little advent type of thing. Every day it

662
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:33.679
<v Speaker 2>set the kids down and you would go over one

663
00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:36.599
<v Speaker 2>aspect of the story. And we did this when our

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<v Speaker 2>kids are very young, and so it has some little

665
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<v Speaker 2>props that were part of it, but you could make

666
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<v Speaker 2>that yourself.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a ship. We would hand these things out because

669
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<v Speaker 2>you know, when the kids are very young, especially with boys,

670
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<v Speaker 2>they like to have something physical that they can kind

671
00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:52.519
<v Speaker 2>of you know, look at and hold and it's a

672
00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:54.559
<v Speaker 2>nice three D thing here. But you know, you could

673
00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:57.880
<v Speaker 2>give them any kind of thing like that, you know,

674
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<v Speaker 2>to represent the ship. It doesn't have to be this

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00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:03.440
<v Speaker 2>particular thing. And so that would help to focus their attention.

676
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<v Speaker 2>You would have you know, the day that you're talking

677
00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:08.079
<v Speaker 2>about the journey, you know you've got to ship here

678
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<v Speaker 2>in the sea. You've got situations where you're talking about starvation.

679
00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:13.840
<v Speaker 2>How Squanta helped them. You got a thing of corn.

680
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:17.039
<v Speaker 2>So stuff like that was very useful. That would help

681
00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:20.519
<v Speaker 2>you to focus with kids. And as I said, every

682
00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:23.199
<v Speaker 2>day there was another lesson. It kept them short because

683
00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:26.360
<v Speaker 2>they've got a short attention span and you know they're

684
00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:28.199
<v Speaker 2>not going to set through a three hour broadcast of

685
00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:32.239
<v Speaker 2>the David Night Show at that age. So you know,

686
00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:33.880
<v Speaker 2>different things like that and one of the things that

687
00:47:33.920 --> 00:47:36.599
<v Speaker 2>I really enjoy that we still have. Oh there were

688
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:41.199
<v Speaker 2>also yeah cards. Again you can find these pictures online,

689
00:47:41.639 --> 00:47:44.840
<v Speaker 2>but there would be you know, classic drawings of scenes

690
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:49.639
<v Speaker 2>from the Pilgrims, the journey here by Sea and all

691
00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:52.039
<v Speaker 2>that type of thing. So there are things like that,

692
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:56.800
<v Speaker 2>and then there were some every year. At the end

693
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<v Speaker 2>of each one of these sections, you would have the kids,

694
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<v Speaker 2>if they were very young, too young to write anything down,

695
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:10.639
<v Speaker 2>you would say, you know, what are you grateful for?

696
00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:14.239
<v Speaker 2>And give you different categories terms of what are you

697
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:16.880
<v Speaker 2>grateful for in terms of protection? Or what are you

698
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:21.559
<v Speaker 2>grateful for in terms of freedom or your health or

699
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:25.880
<v Speaker 2>your salvation, And so you would put these things down.

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00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:28.000
<v Speaker 2>We would do it, the kids would do it, we'd

701
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:30.440
<v Speaker 2>date it, put our names on there. And it's interesting

702
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:32.880
<v Speaker 2>now years later to go back and look to see

703
00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:36.519
<v Speaker 2>what was happening in our lives and how our kids

704
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:41.400
<v Speaker 2>perceive that. That's the importance of diaries. I talked about

705
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:44.239
<v Speaker 2>the diary of George Mueller got a very detailed diary

706
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:47.079
<v Speaker 2>that went over very long life and a lot of experiences.

707
00:48:48.039 --> 00:48:49.360
<v Speaker 2>But if you really want to be able to see

708
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:55.559
<v Speaker 2>God working again, because providence is kind of stealthy, you

709
00:48:55.599 --> 00:48:58.360
<v Speaker 2>really do need to keep a diary. Talk about the

710
00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:01.320
<v Speaker 2>challenges that you're going through, about the things you prayed

711
00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:04.760
<v Speaker 2>to God for, talk about how those prayers were answered.

712
00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:10.159
<v Speaker 2>Because God is still in that business and so all

713
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:12.360
<v Speaker 2>of those things are things that I would recommend to you.

714
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:16.400
<v Speaker 2>But of course for adults, the records are there. You

715
00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:19.599
<v Speaker 2>don't need to rely on PBS or the New York

716
00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Times for history, Please don't. They've got an agenda, they're

717
00:49:24.519 --> 00:49:28.480
<v Speaker 2>not interested in real history. But the primary sources are

718
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:34.159
<v Speaker 2>always better for any kind of education, historical education. So

719
00:49:34.280 --> 00:49:38.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, you'll find online of Plymouth Plantation, you'll find

720
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:40.079
<v Speaker 2>the log of the Mayflower. You find a lot of

721
00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:44.920
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. Many other documents are available online. But again,

722
00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:47.559
<v Speaker 2>think of it when you look at the diary of

723
00:49:47.559 --> 00:49:49.400
<v Speaker 2>the Pilgrims, and how do we know what happened in

724
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:51.000
<v Speaker 2>their life? How do we know how God moved in

725
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:54.159
<v Speaker 2>their life? Was because they kept a diary. You'll want

726
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:55.440
<v Speaker 2>to do that for your own life. You want to

727
00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:58.960
<v Speaker 2>do that for your own benefit and perhaps for the

728
00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:03.559
<v Speaker 2>benefit of children to come in the future, to be

729
00:50:03.559 --> 00:50:06.280
<v Speaker 2>able to see how God worked in your life as

730
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:09.719
<v Speaker 2>he worked in the life of George Mueller or the Pilgrims.

731
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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to play for you now what Benjamin

732
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<v Speaker 2>Franklin said as they were working to put together a constitution,

733
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<v Speaker 2>and he was telling the Constitutional Convention, he said, you know,

734
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<v Speaker 2>we need to ask for God's providence. God was with

735
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<v Speaker 2>us through this last war, and we need his protection,

736
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<v Speaker 2>his guidance in terms of putting together this constitution that

737
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<v Speaker 2>we're going to do. And after that we are going

738
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<v Speaker 2>to have some interviews coming up. I just want to

739
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<v Speaker 2>wish you a blessed Thanksgiving. I hope you enjoy the

740
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<v Speaker 2>time with family and friends. I want to thank Daniel,

741
00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:59.039
<v Speaker 2>a local friend who gave us a fresh turkey, killed

742
00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:01.719
<v Speaker 2>it and plucked it, and that's what we're going to

743
00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:04.599
<v Speaker 2>be working on today. First time we've done a fresh,

744
00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:08.039
<v Speaker 2>not frozen turkey. So I really do appreciate that. It's

745
00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:12.679
<v Speaker 2>great to have friends and he's kind of our squanto.

746
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:17.880
<v Speaker 2>I just have to say, so, have a blessed Thanksgiving.

747
00:51:18.639 --> 00:51:21.840
<v Speaker 2>And this is pre recorded, so I won't be able

748
00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:24.960
<v Speaker 2>to interact with any tips or questions. But again we're

749
00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:27.719
<v Speaker 2>going to have some interviews coming up right after this.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's Benjamin Franklin and what he told the Constitutional Convention.

751
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<v Speaker 2>Mister President, the small progress that we've made after four

752
00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:57.559
<v Speaker 2>or five weeks close attendance and continual reasonings with each other.

753
00:51:57.920 --> 00:52:02.039
<v Speaker 2>Are different sentiments on almost every question, several of the

754
00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:06.079
<v Speaker 2>last producing as many no's as eyes is, methinks, a

755
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:11.039
<v Speaker 2>melancholy proof of the imperfection of the human understanding. We

756
00:52:11.119 --> 00:52:15.159
<v Speaker 2>indeed seem to feel our own want of political wisdom

757
00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:18.400
<v Speaker 2>since we've been running about in search of it. We've

758
00:52:18.440 --> 00:52:21.639
<v Speaker 2>gone back to ancient history for models of government, and

759
00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:24.840
<v Speaker 2>examined the different forms of those republics which have been

760
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:28.039
<v Speaker 2>formed with the seeds of their own dissolution and now

761
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:32.199
<v Speaker 2>no longer exist. We have viewed modern states all around Europe,

762
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:36.280
<v Speaker 2>but find none of their constitutions suitable to our circumstances.

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<v Speaker 2>In this situation of this assembly, groping as it were,

764
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:43.400
<v Speaker 2>in the dark to fine political truth, and scarce able

765
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:47.519
<v Speaker 2>to distinguish it when presented to us, How has it happened, Sir,

766
00:52:48.159 --> 00:52:52.519
<v Speaker 2>that we have not hitherto once thought of humbly applying

767
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:57.159
<v Speaker 2>to the Father of lights to illuminate our understandings. In

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of the contest with Great Britain, we were

769
00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:04.239
<v Speaker 2>sensible of danger. We had daily prayer in this room

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<v Speaker 2>for divine protection. Our prayers, Sir, were heard, and they

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00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:13.920
<v Speaker 2>were graciously answered. All of us who were engaged in

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00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:18.079
<v Speaker 2>the struggle must have observed frequent instances of a superintending

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00:53:18.119 --> 00:53:21.840
<v Speaker 2>providence in our favor to that kind providence. We owe

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00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:26.239
<v Speaker 2>this happy opportunity of consulting in peace on the means

775
00:53:26.239 --> 00:53:31.280
<v Speaker 2>of establishing our future national felicity. Have we now forgotten

776
00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:35.000
<v Speaker 2>that powerful friend? Or do we imagine that we no

777
00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:41.159
<v Speaker 2>longer need his assistance? I have lived, Sir, a long time,

778
00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:45.519
<v Speaker 2>and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I

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00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:50.079
<v Speaker 2>see of this truth that God governs in the affairs

780
00:53:50.199 --> 00:53:53.679
<v Speaker 2>of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the

781
00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:57.320
<v Speaker 2>ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire

782
00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:01.199
<v Speaker 2>can rise without his aid. We have been assured, Sir,

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<v Speaker 2>in the sacred writings, that except the Lord build, they

784
00:54:05.639 --> 00:54:09.199
<v Speaker 2>labor in vain that build it. I firmly believe this,

785
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:13.000
<v Speaker 2>and I also believe that without his concurring aid we

786
00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:15.960
<v Speaker 2>shall succeed in this political building no better than the

787
00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:19.960
<v Speaker 2>builders of Babel. We shall be divided by our little,

788
00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:23.800
<v Speaker 2>partial local interests. Our projects will be confounded, and we

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00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:27.400
<v Speaker 2>ourselves shall become a reproach and a byword down to

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<v Speaker 2>the future age.

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<v Speaker 4>And what is worse.

792
00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Mankind may hereafter, from this unfortunate instance the spare of

793
00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:39.800
<v Speaker 2>establishing governments by human wisdom, and leave it to chance

794
00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:45.840
<v Speaker 2>war and to conquest. I therefore beg leave to move

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<v Speaker 2>that hitsforth. Prayers imploring the assistance of Heaven and its

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00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:54.000
<v Speaker 2>blessings on our deliberation, be held in this assembly every

797
00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:57.039
<v Speaker 2>morning before we proceed to business, and that one or

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<v Speaker 2>more of the clergy of this city be requested to

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<v Speaker 2>officiate in that service. Benjamin Franklin, Thursday, June twenty eighth,

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen eighty seven, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 6>Analyzing the globalists next move and now the David Nutshell

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<v Speaker 6>all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Joining us now is Joe Banister. I've interviewed Joe several times,

804
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<v Speaker 2>had had the pleasure to do it. A man of integrity.

805
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<v Speaker 2>He's a former criminal investigator for the I R S

806
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<v Speaker 2>and now he is an Agent for Truth. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>name of his website as well as a podcast that

808
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<v Speaker 2>he has. Thank you for joining us, Joe, Thank you, David.

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<v Speaker 5>It's great to see you again and talk with you

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00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:09.920
<v Speaker 5>and hook up with Travis again to see yes, see

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<v Speaker 5>his smiling face.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to have you there. Tell people a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>about where they can find you, first of all, where

814
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<v Speaker 2>can they find Agent for Truth? And tell us a

815
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<v Speaker 2>little bit about the podcast that's going on.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. The website is Agent for Truth dot com. I

817
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<v Speaker 5>started out twenty three years ago with a website called

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<v Speaker 5>Freedom above Fortune dot com because I had to decide

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<v Speaker 5>what was more important, you know, so called fortune at

820
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<v Speaker 5>the I r S with a secure pension and paycheck,

821
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<v Speaker 5>or freedom, you know, for myself, my family and for

822
00:57:41.440 --> 00:57:44.440
<v Speaker 5>our country. But I thought Agent for Truth was a

823
00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:48.440
<v Speaker 5>good a good little moniker there, since I was a

824
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<v Speaker 5>special agent with the I R S and I wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to be the best agent for truth that I could be.

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<v Speaker 5>So agentftruth dot com is the website. I actually wrote

827
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<v Speaker 5>a book, if you don't mind me doing it, shameless

828
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<v Speaker 5>plug all the investigating the Federal income tax, the report

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<v Speaker 5>to the American people. And that's because in nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 5>nine when I resigned, I wrote a preliminary report. So

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<v Speaker 5>of course, now that twenty three years have passed, there

832
00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:21.800
<v Speaker 5>was a lot more news, including criminally prosecuting me, stripping

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00:58:21.840 --> 00:58:24.599
<v Speaker 5>me my CPA certificate, all kinds of fun and games

834
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:31.280
<v Speaker 5>that the IRS can complete lash out at. So yeah,

835
00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:35.920
<v Speaker 5>I have a podcast. It's actually just through zoom, kind

836
00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:39.840
<v Speaker 5>of a wonkish thing. We have attorneys and paralegals and

837
00:58:39.880 --> 00:58:43.000
<v Speaker 5>we speak for years was about the income tax, of course,

838
00:58:43.000 --> 00:58:45.960
<v Speaker 5>in taxation, but over the last couple of years it's

839
00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:50.519
<v Speaker 5>been all about COVID because all the lockdowns and the

840
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:56.960
<v Speaker 5>tyranny seemed to make the IRS maybe not pale in comparison,

841
00:58:57.079 --> 00:59:00.199
<v Speaker 5>but certainly set it off to the side. Because you know,

842
00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:04.199
<v Speaker 5>it's like the powers that be were fine through the

843
00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:09.039
<v Speaker 5>monetary system and the taxation system harvesting us like silkworms. Yeah,

844
00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:10.880
<v Speaker 5>and then all of a sudden it changed to we

845
00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:12.000
<v Speaker 5>need to kill them.

846
00:59:12.159 --> 00:59:15.159
<v Speaker 2>Yes exactly, yeah, yeah, now we're for dinner. You know,

847
00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:17.920
<v Speaker 2>they want us to eat silkworms until we die and

848
00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:20.880
<v Speaker 2>they keep us in prison. I agree with you absolutely,

849
00:59:21.159 --> 00:59:23.719
<v Speaker 2>And you know I've said many times Joe that the

850
00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:27.880
<v Speaker 2>I think the IRS kind of set a lot of

851
00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:32.920
<v Speaker 2>precedents of having a bureaucracy that was a law unto itself.

852
00:59:33.519 --> 00:59:38.559
<v Speaker 2>And you know, Rampaul and others have in years past

853
00:59:38.679 --> 00:59:41.280
<v Speaker 2>would put out the Reins Act to rein in the

854
00:59:41.280 --> 00:59:45.519
<v Speaker 2>bureaucracy because we now have taxation with our representation, we

855
00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:49.440
<v Speaker 2>have regulation without representation. Nancy Pelosi said of Obamacare, we

856
00:59:49.519 --> 00:59:51.079
<v Speaker 2>got to pass it so we can find out what's

857
00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:54.840
<v Speaker 2>in it. They get these funding and they create a bureaucracy,

858
00:59:55.119 --> 00:59:57.800
<v Speaker 2>and then they let them create the rules. And then

859
00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:01.199
<v Speaker 2>after they create their rules, you don't have any presumption

860
01:00:01.239 --> 01:00:03.719
<v Speaker 2>of innocence, you don't have due process, and they have

861
01:00:03.960 --> 01:00:07.039
<v Speaker 2>no prohibition against successive fies because they say, well, these

862
01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:10.519
<v Speaker 2>are rules, these aren't laws. You only have these types

863
01:00:10.519 --> 01:00:13.400
<v Speaker 2>of legal protections if it's a law enacted by Congress.

864
01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:15.679
<v Speaker 2>So we won't have Congress do any laws. We'll have

865
01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:18.199
<v Speaker 2>the bureaucracy create the rules. And so I think that

866
01:00:18.239 --> 01:00:20.679
<v Speaker 2>the IRS really took the lead in all of that,

867
01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:24.760
<v Speaker 2>But now it's been weaponized by especially in this medical

868
01:00:25.599 --> 01:00:28.000
<v Speaker 2>martial law that we've had. It's been that same tactic

869
01:00:28.079 --> 01:00:31.119
<v Speaker 2>now has been extended to all different aspects of our life,

870
01:00:31.159 --> 01:00:31.519
<v Speaker 2>hasn't it.

871
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<v Speaker 5>Yes, And in fact I was, you know, as I

872
01:00:36.599 --> 01:00:39.559
<v Speaker 5>can talk about, of course, as being criminally prosecuted. So

873
01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:43.599
<v Speaker 5>they actually went through the process of indictment prosecuting me,

874
01:00:43.679 --> 01:00:46.159
<v Speaker 5>and I was deservedly acquitted. We could talk about that

875
01:00:46.239 --> 01:00:48.880
<v Speaker 5>in a second, But in terms of the administrative state,

876
01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:52.800
<v Speaker 5>the way that I was stripped of my CPA certificate

877
01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:54.760
<v Speaker 5>you know that I earned from the state of California

878
01:00:54.840 --> 01:00:59.000
<v Speaker 5>back in nineteen ninety one, was through this administrative state.

879
01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:04.039
<v Speaker 5>I basically have a administrative law judge from the Environmental

880
01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:08.960
<v Speaker 5>Protection Agency to decide my fate in terms of a

881
01:01:09.079 --> 01:01:12.800
<v Speaker 5>disbardment from you know, being able to help clients before

882
01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:13.480
<v Speaker 5>the i R S.

883
01:01:13.599 --> 01:01:15.800
<v Speaker 2>How did the how did they get the EPA involved

884
01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:15.960
<v Speaker 2>in that?

885
01:01:16.920 --> 01:01:19.719
<v Speaker 5>I you know, I guess he was the only one

886
01:01:19.719 --> 01:01:23.280
<v Speaker 5>available and they But I think I had a connection

887
01:01:23.519 --> 01:01:28.760
<v Speaker 5>with the Department of Homeland Security because I my it

888
01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:30.840
<v Speaker 5>wasn't a trial. It was more like a hearing was

889
01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:34.719
<v Speaker 5>supposed to occur on Coast Guard Island in San Francisco Bay,

890
01:01:35.559 --> 01:01:38.440
<v Speaker 5>and that's a military installation where you know, you can

891
01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:42.199
<v Speaker 5>only come and go as they allow you, no no witnesses.

892
01:01:42.280 --> 01:01:44.320
<v Speaker 5>They really you know, I called it the Shanghai on

893
01:01:44.519 --> 01:01:48.440
<v Speaker 5>CGI for Coast Guard Island. So I just just to

894
01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:51.679
<v Speaker 5>point out that that administrative state can really grind you up,

895
01:01:51.880 --> 01:01:55.480
<v Speaker 5>and you go through all these appeals and but it's

896
01:01:55.559 --> 01:01:59.320
<v Speaker 5>really not due process, not in the true sense.

897
01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:01.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, they really wiped that out. As we saw

898
01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:04.800
<v Speaker 2>during the COVID stuff. You had the CDC claiming that

899
01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:09.960
<v Speaker 2>they had control over foreclosures and evictions and things like that.

900
01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:14.039
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's just amazing to see how they just

901
01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:17.719
<v Speaker 2>passed the power around amongst themselves. And it really is

902
01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:22.480
<v Speaker 2>taxation without representation, regulation without representation, and of course trials

903
01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:27.360
<v Speaker 2>really without any representation or legal due process. That's what's

904
01:02:27.400 --> 01:02:29.719
<v Speaker 2>really dangerous about this. Tell people a little bit about

905
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:33.239
<v Speaker 2>your process and a little bit about your background, because

906
01:02:33.239 --> 01:02:36.519
<v Speaker 2>it's been a while since you've been on, and we

907
01:02:36.599 --> 01:02:39.519
<v Speaker 2>got a lot of new listeners who don't know how

908
01:02:40.280 --> 01:02:43.800
<v Speaker 2>you went from being a criminal investigation agent for the

909
01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:45.760
<v Speaker 2>IRS into somebody that they targeted.

910
01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:50.880
<v Speaker 5>Thank you, well, so you know, with all the why hair,

911
01:02:50.920 --> 01:02:55.119
<v Speaker 5>it's been been quite a while. But after graduating from

912
01:02:55.119 --> 01:02:59.039
<v Speaker 5>college and recognizing that the accounting profession was quite boring,

913
01:02:59.079 --> 01:03:00.960
<v Speaker 5>it took me a while to figure that out. I

914
01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:03.760
<v Speaker 5>don't know why. But I also had lots of friends

915
01:03:03.800 --> 01:03:06.760
<v Speaker 5>and relatives in law enforcement, and so I thought, well,

916
01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:11.079
<v Speaker 5>how can I match this, you know, accounting degree and

917
01:03:11.199 --> 01:03:14.960
<v Speaker 5>experience with law enforcement, And so of course an investigative

918
01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:18.639
<v Speaker 5>role came about. So I applied to the FBI and

919
01:03:18.679 --> 01:03:22.920
<v Speaker 5>the IRS Criminal Investigation Division, and the FBI actually had

920
01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:26.800
<v Speaker 5>a hiring freeze. I qualified to be sent to Quantico, Virginia,

921
01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:31.079
<v Speaker 5>but due to a hiring freeze, it was basically in

922
01:03:31.079 --> 01:03:36.360
<v Speaker 5>this holding pattern. Then the IRS called and I, you know, granted,

923
01:03:36.480 --> 01:03:39.159
<v Speaker 5>the FBI has gotten a worse and worse reputation as

924
01:03:39.199 --> 01:03:42.239
<v Speaker 5>the decades roll along, but back then in the nineties,

925
01:03:43.719 --> 01:03:46.239
<v Speaker 5>you know, at least to carve away a ruby ridge.

926
01:03:46.280 --> 01:03:49.559
<v Speaker 5>And as I say, it was an unfolding process. But

927
01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:52.400
<v Speaker 5>compared to the IRS, I thought, well, the FBI would

928
01:03:52.440 --> 01:03:56.719
<v Speaker 5>definitely be a better agency. But there was a hiring freeze.

929
01:03:56.800 --> 01:03:59.960
<v Speaker 5>So kind of the idea of working for the IRS

930
01:04:00.119 --> 01:04:01.880
<v Speaker 5>kind of grew on me because it was a special

931
01:04:01.960 --> 01:04:06.039
<v Speaker 5>agent position, a criminal investigator, you know, gun and a badge.

932
01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:10.519
<v Speaker 5>You're working on money laundering cases, really detailed cases with

933
01:04:10.559 --> 01:04:15.400
<v Speaker 5>other agencies. And you know, I'm granted, tax and accounting

934
01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:17.880
<v Speaker 5>was my background, so it seemed like a pretty good fit.

935
01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:21.679
<v Speaker 5>So November ninety three, I was sworn in as an

936
01:04:21.760 --> 01:04:25.000
<v Speaker 5>IRS special agent and just for the for the audience,

937
01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:28.920
<v Speaker 5>the IRS has a civil civil functions where there's audits

938
01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:31.360
<v Speaker 5>and levees and things like that, and then they have

939
01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:36.760
<v Speaker 5>a criminal investigation function where when a when proof of

940
01:04:37.679 --> 01:04:43.559
<v Speaker 5>an intentional violation of a law can can be you know, investigated.

941
01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:46.920
<v Speaker 5>Then you'd have a criminal investigator who would do that

942
01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:50.360
<v Speaker 5>much like a police officer who investigator a crime scene

943
01:04:52.159 --> 01:04:57.840
<v Speaker 5>or whether it be secret service investigating counterfeiting or whatever

944
01:04:57.840 --> 01:04:58.280
<v Speaker 5>it might be.

945
01:04:58.320 --> 01:05:00.800
<v Speaker 2>So the iOS is does it have to be something

946
01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:04.119
<v Speaker 2>associated with a crime or is it something that is

947
01:05:04.920 --> 01:05:11.559
<v Speaker 2>tax It was an evasion as opposed to you know, avoidance, avoidance, Yeah, avoidances,

948
01:05:11.639 --> 01:05:14.280
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember which it was, just like the approval

949
01:05:14.440 --> 01:05:18.239
<v Speaker 2>versus the authorization for the vaccines. So it's okay, and

950
01:05:18.280 --> 01:05:21.039
<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's part of the game to try to

951
01:05:21.039 --> 01:05:23.800
<v Speaker 2>avoid your taxes, and that's encouraged. But if you evade

952
01:05:23.800 --> 01:05:26.320
<v Speaker 2>your taxes, then is that when they get the criminal

953
01:05:26.440 --> 01:05:30.079
<v Speaker 2>people involved or do they still have for evasion? Do

954
01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:34.679
<v Speaker 2>they still have some of the non criminal auditors involved

955
01:05:34.679 --> 01:05:34.880
<v Speaker 2>with that?

956
01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:38.639
<v Speaker 5>Well, that's why it's supposed to work. In other words,

957
01:05:38.679 --> 01:05:40.880
<v Speaker 5>if you don't have a men's rea, you don't have

958
01:05:40.920 --> 01:05:44.360
<v Speaker 5>a criminal intent, then it should be in the purview

959
01:05:44.480 --> 01:05:49.000
<v Speaker 5>of avoidance, which even the Supreme Court numerous courts of

960
01:05:49.079 --> 01:05:53.039
<v Speaker 5>ruled tax avoidance is not a crime. In fact, it's expected.

961
01:05:54.119 --> 01:05:56.519
<v Speaker 5>But the way another mission creep for the I R.

962
01:05:56.679 --> 01:06:01.679
<v Speaker 5>S is even tax avoidance has become a punishable matter,

963
01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:05.679
<v Speaker 5>so you know, it's something for people to keep in mind.

964
01:06:05.719 --> 01:06:08.119
<v Speaker 5>But anyway, the difference between the two is that tax

965
01:06:08.159 --> 01:06:13.360
<v Speaker 5>avoidance is, you know, utilizing the law as written to

966
01:06:13.400 --> 01:06:17.400
<v Speaker 5>minimize or eliminate tax as much as possible. Tax evasion

967
01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:21.280
<v Speaker 5>is knowing that you have a known legal duty to

968
01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:26.800
<v Speaker 5>obey some law or provide such information and then purposely

969
01:06:26.840 --> 01:06:29.960
<v Speaker 5>not doing so. Willfully is actually the word that they use.

970
01:06:31.440 --> 01:06:35.000
<v Speaker 2>So when we look at this explosion in the IRS,

971
01:06:35.199 --> 01:06:37.559
<v Speaker 2>and let's continue on with your story, I don't want

972
01:06:37.599 --> 01:06:39.639
<v Speaker 2>to get away with your story. Let's go back and

973
01:06:39.679 --> 01:06:42.119
<v Speaker 2>talk about your journey. You go to work for the IRS,

974
01:06:42.119 --> 01:06:43.119
<v Speaker 2>and then what happens.

975
01:06:43.800 --> 01:06:45.920
<v Speaker 5>So in nineteen ninety three, and I expected to spend

976
01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:48.480
<v Speaker 5>a full twenty year career there because as a law

977
01:06:48.519 --> 01:06:52.199
<v Speaker 5>enforcement position, it's not a thirty year retirement, it's a

978
01:06:52.199 --> 01:06:56.280
<v Speaker 5>twenty year retirement. You work fifty hour work weeks, so

979
01:06:56.320 --> 01:06:59.280
<v Speaker 5>you're getting a ten or basically twenty five percent premium

980
01:06:59.320 --> 01:07:02.760
<v Speaker 5>in your pay, plus you know, the extra pay for

981
01:07:03.079 --> 01:07:05.679
<v Speaker 5>you know, being a law enforcement kind of person, gun

982
01:07:05.719 --> 01:07:08.440
<v Speaker 5>and badge and all that. So I really expected to

983
01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:11.840
<v Speaker 5>spend a twenty year career there. And again because the

984
01:07:12.119 --> 01:07:15.679
<v Speaker 5>you know, you're investigating money laundering and you know really

985
01:07:15.719 --> 01:07:19.719
<v Speaker 5>intricate crimes and you know, protecting the treasury as you're

986
01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:22.119
<v Speaker 5>you know, you're thinking you're doing that, and and so

987
01:07:22.159 --> 01:07:27.239
<v Speaker 5>I believe those functions aren't necessary, and so my expectations

988
01:07:27.239 --> 01:07:29.800
<v Speaker 5>were kind of changed when about three years into my

989
01:07:29.920 --> 01:07:33.199
<v Speaker 5>career there I was listening to a talk radio show.

990
01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:37.280
<v Speaker 5>And that's why I'm so people like David Knight are

991
01:07:37.320 --> 01:07:42.760
<v Speaker 5>so admirable, because you got those the truth pills dispensing

992
01:07:43.559 --> 01:07:47.599
<v Speaker 5>and big bottles. But anyway, I was an avid talk

993
01:07:47.679 --> 01:07:50.440
<v Speaker 5>radio listener, and so they had a guest on the

994
01:07:50.440 --> 01:07:53.559
<v Speaker 5>show talking about the income tax and the Federal Reserve

995
01:07:53.760 --> 01:07:56.360
<v Speaker 5>and all the things that back in the nineties and

996
01:07:56.400 --> 01:07:58.320
<v Speaker 5>prior to that were just thought of as oh, the

997
01:07:58.400 --> 01:08:00.320
<v Speaker 5>kookiest subjet.

998
01:08:00.280 --> 01:08:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Matter, right, I know, I know, yeah, we would have

999
01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:05.280
<v Speaker 2>we'd run people for office with the Libertarian Party, and

1000
01:08:05.280 --> 01:08:07.360
<v Speaker 2>we would start out by saying we want to abolish the

1001
01:08:07.360 --> 01:08:09.639
<v Speaker 2>income tax and the I R S and everybody, Oh,

1002
01:08:09.639 --> 01:08:14.280
<v Speaker 2>they're just radical, these people, right, So yeah.

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01:08:14.119 --> 01:08:17.560
<v Speaker 5>I know, yes, yeah, yeah, the pioneers, thank thank goodness

1004
01:08:17.560 --> 01:08:22.520
<v Speaker 5>for the pioneers, the trailblazers. So anyway, uh listened and

1005
01:08:22.560 --> 01:08:24.800
<v Speaker 5>then it was on a talk show of a guy

1006
01:08:24.840 --> 01:08:27.000
<v Speaker 5>that was always telling the truth about every other thing.

1007
01:08:27.159 --> 01:08:29.840
<v Speaker 5>So I thought, well, why why would he lie to us? Now?

1008
01:08:29.960 --> 01:08:31.760
<v Speaker 5>Why would he have a guest on that would lie

1009
01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:34.479
<v Speaker 5>to his audience? So that's what got me started. So

1010
01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:39.199
<v Speaker 5>I spent two years off duty, you know, evenings and weekends,

1011
01:08:39.479 --> 01:08:43.159
<v Speaker 5>investigating whether or not these claims about the income tax

1012
01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:47.760
<v Speaker 5>were actually true. And the basic claim was that the

1013
01:08:47.840 --> 01:08:51.119
<v Speaker 5>i R S the income tax was not actually required

1014
01:08:51.119 --> 01:08:54.840
<v Speaker 5>to be paid by most Americans because they were no

1015
01:08:54.960 --> 01:08:58.000
<v Speaker 5>federal law ever made them liable to pay the tax.

1016
01:08:58.760 --> 01:09:02.800
<v Speaker 5>And the i r s's own instructions, their own regulations

1017
01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:06.039
<v Speaker 5>state that if you're liable for attack, then you have

1018
01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:09.119
<v Speaker 5>all these requirements that you have to follow. But it's

1019
01:09:09.159 --> 01:09:13.840
<v Speaker 5>that key juncture, are you liable? And you know, nowadays

1020
01:09:14.119 --> 01:09:17.279
<v Speaker 5>any American can search the Internet and search through the

1021
01:09:17.479 --> 01:09:22.239
<v Speaker 5>entire thick internal Revenue Code. All guys like us would

1022
01:09:22.279 --> 01:09:25.159
<v Speaker 5>call it thick, right, it's just on a computer screen now,

1023
01:09:25.600 --> 01:09:28.880
<v Speaker 5>But you can search through all these laws and find out, well,

1024
01:09:28.880 --> 01:09:31.479
<v Speaker 5>where do I become liable? How does this happen? The

1025
01:09:31.520 --> 01:09:33.800
<v Speaker 5>IRS says, I have to do all these things if

1026
01:09:33.840 --> 01:09:36.640
<v Speaker 5>I'm liable for the tax. Let's see where that happens,

1027
01:09:37.239 --> 01:09:40.560
<v Speaker 5>and then Americans who do the research come to find

1028
01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:43.159
<v Speaker 5>out that, oh wow, I'm I'm not liable for the

1029
01:09:43.159 --> 01:09:45.279
<v Speaker 5>income tax. Is that some kind of an oversight?

1030
01:09:46.760 --> 01:09:48.840
<v Speaker 2>I remember our years they would send out the package.

1031
01:09:48.840 --> 01:09:50.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they do this anymore, but they

1032
01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:52.800
<v Speaker 2>would say, you know, the income tax is a voluntary thing,

1033
01:09:52.840 --> 01:09:54.960
<v Speaker 2>and we really do appreciate you volunteering. And I used

1034
01:09:55.000 --> 01:09:57.399
<v Speaker 2>to yes, that was the most cynical thing, you know,

1035
01:09:57.560 --> 01:09:59.920
<v Speaker 2>but it's just like you would get the printed paper

1036
01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:03.159
<v Speaker 2>apps and it would always have something there from the

1037
01:10:03.479 --> 01:10:06.560
<v Speaker 2>governor of whatever the state was reminding you that driving

1038
01:10:06.680 --> 01:10:08.640
<v Speaker 2>is a privilege. Well, the I R s would always

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<v Speaker 2>send this thing out and say and thank you for

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01:10:11.119 --> 01:10:15.479
<v Speaker 2>complying with this voluntarily. Uh, what are they talking about?

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01:10:15.520 --> 01:10:17.800
<v Speaker 2>I know what's going to happen if I don't volunteer.

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01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:20.760
<v Speaker 2>You know they're going to voluntarily Yes, you held me away,

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01:10:20.840 --> 01:10:21.119
<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 5>That's exactly. And that's kind of like you know when

1045
01:10:24.119 --> 01:10:27.640
<v Speaker 5>they say the if you're blindfolded and you there's an

1046
01:10:27.640 --> 01:10:29.319
<v Speaker 5>elephant in the room but you don't know it, and

1047
01:10:29.359 --> 01:10:31.159
<v Speaker 5>you touch, and there's a trunk and you touch and

1048
01:10:31.199 --> 01:10:34.199
<v Speaker 5>there's a big tone now and ye so those kinds

1049
01:10:34.239 --> 01:10:36.800
<v Speaker 5>of clues, even from the commissioners who would write those

1050
01:10:37.399 --> 01:10:41.560
<v Speaker 5>those introductory letters each year. Uh, that's just one of

1051
01:10:41.720 --> 01:10:46.279
<v Speaker 5>many parts of the elephant to indicate how illegitimate you know,

1052
01:10:46.319 --> 01:10:49.000
<v Speaker 5>the i R S is enforcement and administration of the

1053
01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:51.880
<v Speaker 5>Income Tact actually is. And of course I always hesitate.

1054
01:10:51.960 --> 01:10:55.319
<v Speaker 5>I'm not a I'm not like urging people like the

1055
01:10:55.359 --> 01:10:57.800
<v Speaker 5>pied Piper go out and battle with the I R S.

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01:10:57.960 --> 01:11:00.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, Yeah, that's the problem. Even if they don't

1057
01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:02.960
<v Speaker 2>have authority, they've got a lot of power, you know,

1058
01:11:03.159 --> 01:11:05.600
<v Speaker 2>and we see power abused all the time without authority.

1059
01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:07.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look at the last couple of years here,

1060
01:11:07.680 --> 01:11:12.640
<v Speaker 2>how they've abused you know, without authority, they've abused their power.

1061
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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's absolutely amazing. And you're talking about how

1062
01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:18.720
<v Speaker 2>thickets become. And that's one of the ways that they

1063
01:11:18.760 --> 01:11:22.319
<v Speaker 2>can really control you. If the law is sufficiently complex

1064
01:11:22.439 --> 01:11:25.199
<v Speaker 2>so that nobody knows what it is. Really it's the

1065
01:11:25.199 --> 01:11:27.199
<v Speaker 2>same as having no law at all. And that really

1066
01:11:27.239 --> 01:11:29.680
<v Speaker 2>has been kind of the operating principle of much of

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01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:32.239
<v Speaker 2>the government, not just the irs. But you know, they

1068
01:11:32.279 --> 01:11:36.520
<v Speaker 2>bury everything in so many levels of detail that nobody

1069
01:11:36.520 --> 01:11:39.159
<v Speaker 2>really knows what it is. It's not a simple statement

1070
01:11:39.319 --> 01:11:40.960
<v Speaker 2>like we have in the Bill of Rights, and instead

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01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:44.399
<v Speaker 2>they create these complicated for varications to erase our Bill

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01:11:44.399 --> 01:11:45.479
<v Speaker 2>of Rights in our constitution.

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01:11:46.479 --> 01:11:49.119
<v Speaker 5>Yes, and I think also your listeners and yourself will

1074
01:11:49.159 --> 01:11:54.079
<v Speaker 5>be fascinated by this little little fact. I'm sure everyone's heard,

1075
01:11:54.159 --> 01:11:58.079
<v Speaker 5>especially with the COVID, how people are accused of being

1076
01:11:58.279 --> 01:12:04.399
<v Speaker 5>you know, mass misinformation spreaders. Well, the IRS actually wrote

1077
01:12:04.399 --> 01:12:07.920
<v Speaker 5>the book on that they would designate people as illegal

1078
01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:12.359
<v Speaker 5>tax protesters. If you point out an actual black letter

1079
01:12:12.479 --> 01:12:16.159
<v Speaker 5>law to the IRS auditor, for example, they'll tell you

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01:12:16.199 --> 01:12:22.439
<v Speaker 5>it's a frivolous argument. So smearing people with you know,

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01:12:22.800 --> 01:12:28.399
<v Speaker 5>labels like illegal tax protester or tax denier. Really, the

1082
01:12:28.520 --> 01:12:32.840
<v Speaker 5>book was written by the I R. S in the fifties, sixties, seventies, eighties,

1083
01:12:33.239 --> 01:12:34.760
<v Speaker 5>So you know, all I had to do was dust

1084
01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:39.439
<v Speaker 5>that off. Fauci could just dust off all those policies

1085
01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:45.000
<v Speaker 5>and practices and you know, dismissed. Of course, thankfully, people

1086
01:12:45.119 --> 01:12:47.560
<v Speaker 5>there's enough courageous people that they can be called any

1087
01:12:47.640 --> 01:12:50.079
<v Speaker 5>name in the book. They don't care. The truth is

1088
01:12:50.119 --> 01:12:53.840
<v Speaker 5>the truth, and eventually, you know, the purveyors of the

1089
01:12:53.880 --> 01:12:57.199
<v Speaker 5>lies start scurrying for the for the dark corners of

1090
01:12:57.199 --> 01:12:59.119
<v Speaker 5>the room, like Fauci.

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01:13:00.199 --> 01:13:01.800
<v Speaker 2>And we're at that point right now. I spent the

1092
01:13:01.840 --> 01:13:03.760
<v Speaker 2>beginning of this program talking about, hey, it looks like

1093
01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:07.920
<v Speaker 2>it's turned. They decided that they can't hide the massive

1094
01:13:07.960 --> 01:13:11.319
<v Speaker 2>pile of bodies everywhere, and everybody's turning on each other. Well,

1095
01:13:11.359 --> 01:13:13.199
<v Speaker 2>he was the one who did it. I didn't do it.

1096
01:13:13.239 --> 01:13:16.199
<v Speaker 2>You know, the type of thing. All the finger pointing

1097
01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:18.760
<v Speaker 2>is now started, which is a good move for our side,

1098
01:13:18.760 --> 01:13:20.520
<v Speaker 2>as long as they don't try to escalate this with

1099
01:13:20.600 --> 01:13:22.319
<v Speaker 2>some other kind of attack or with a war to

1100
01:13:22.319 --> 01:13:25.039
<v Speaker 2>try to wipe all this stuff out. But I'm curious because,

1101
01:13:25.079 --> 01:13:29.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, Joe, once you challenge them, especially from the inside,

1102
01:13:30.600 --> 01:13:32.279
<v Speaker 2>things must have gotten really bad for you.

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01:13:33.920 --> 01:13:37.039
<v Speaker 5>They did. I mean, I was, you know, not to

1104
01:13:37.039 --> 01:13:39.399
<v Speaker 5>toot my own horror, but in terms of awards and

1105
01:13:39.479 --> 01:13:43.079
<v Speaker 5>promotions and everybody asking, oh wow, you must be going

1106
01:13:43.119 --> 01:13:46.600
<v Speaker 5>to go into management. You know, you're just a hard charger,

1107
01:13:46.720 --> 01:13:49.880
<v Speaker 5>and so everything was really great until I start. You know,

1108
01:13:49.880 --> 01:13:52.640
<v Speaker 5>I just kind of raised my hand sheepishly and said, hey,

1109
01:13:52.680 --> 01:13:54.840
<v Speaker 5>you know, I've been doing this research about the income

1110
01:13:54.880 --> 01:13:57.680
<v Speaker 5>tax and trying to dismiss these claims by these so

1111
01:13:57.760 --> 01:14:02.079
<v Speaker 5>called tax protesters. And sure there's strange stuff out there,

1112
01:14:02.640 --> 01:14:05.680
<v Speaker 5>but you know, I'm a CPA. You trust me to

1113
01:14:05.680 --> 01:14:09.279
<v Speaker 5>carry this gun and a badge around. These are the

1114
01:14:09.279 --> 01:14:11.560
<v Speaker 5>things that I found. And you know, given that I

1115
01:14:11.560 --> 01:14:14.199
<v Speaker 5>took an oath to support and defend the constitution and

1116
01:14:14.279 --> 01:14:18.359
<v Speaker 5>you did too, you know, to my supervisors, what about this?

1117
01:14:18.560 --> 01:14:20.159
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I really think I need to get this

1118
01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:23.600
<v Speaker 5>result so that I can be assured that I am

1119
01:14:23.720 --> 01:14:28.319
<v Speaker 5>actually abiding by my oath. And well, the answer I

1120
01:14:28.319 --> 01:14:32.119
<v Speaker 5>got was that you probably already can figure it out.

1121
01:14:32.520 --> 01:14:34.840
<v Speaker 5>They were not happy. They would not answer any of

1122
01:14:34.840 --> 01:14:39.640
<v Speaker 5>my questions. They would not even address my report, which

1123
01:14:39.880 --> 01:14:43.880
<v Speaker 5>is you know, the this is what evolved. But originally

1124
01:14:43.920 --> 01:14:47.880
<v Speaker 5>it was a ninety nine page report provided to my supervisors,

1125
01:14:47.920 --> 01:14:54.399
<v Speaker 5>just highlighting some of the concerning issues. And they sent

1126
01:14:54.640 --> 01:14:58.279
<v Speaker 5>my inquiries up this chain of command, up to the

1127
01:14:58.359 --> 01:15:03.199
<v Speaker 5>Assistant Commissioner for Criminal Investigation, and the word came back down,

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01:15:03.720 --> 01:15:06.079
<v Speaker 5>no answer of your questions will provide you with the

1129
01:15:06.079 --> 01:15:10.319
<v Speaker 5>paperwork to tend to your resignation. Wow, took my gun

1130
01:15:10.319 --> 01:15:13.960
<v Speaker 5>and badge away, kept my pager for a week. You know,

1131
01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:17.399
<v Speaker 5>don't call us, We'll call you. And then I really

1132
01:15:17.439 --> 01:15:22.279
<v Speaker 5>decided that because I had a really, frankly a stellar reputation,

1133
01:15:23.359 --> 01:15:25.600
<v Speaker 5>that if I stayed with the IRS, then they would

1134
01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:28.279
<v Speaker 5>have made sure that they ruined it, and then who

1135
01:15:28.319 --> 01:15:32.319
<v Speaker 5>would believe me? So I actually resigned on my birthday

1136
01:15:32.359 --> 01:15:36.199
<v Speaker 5>February twenty fifth, nineteen ninety nine. And I don't have

1137
01:15:36.239 --> 01:15:39.640
<v Speaker 5>any listeners know this, but my birthday February twenty fifth

1138
01:15:39.680 --> 01:15:43.880
<v Speaker 5>and the income tax birthday February twenty fifth, nineteen thirteen,

1139
01:15:44.680 --> 01:15:48.560
<v Speaker 5>we share the same day. So maybe I was meant

1140
01:15:48.600 --> 01:15:51.039
<v Speaker 5>to blow a few whistles.

1141
01:15:51.399 --> 01:15:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Wow, So did they just let you resign? And that

1142
01:15:54.880 --> 01:15:56.880
<v Speaker 2>was were those criminal charges against you?

1143
01:15:56.960 --> 01:15:57.119
<v Speaker 5>Though?

1144
01:15:57.199 --> 01:15:57.439
<v Speaker 2>Right?

1145
01:15:58.159 --> 01:16:00.359
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? Resigned in ninety nine, and then I I had,

1146
01:16:01.359 --> 01:16:04.760
<v Speaker 5>you know, no mainstream media attention immediately. I mean, you'd

1147
01:16:04.800 --> 01:16:07.880
<v Speaker 5>think if a criminal investigator for the IRS was blowing

1148
01:16:07.880 --> 01:16:11.279
<v Speaker 5>the whistle that the mainstream media would care. Well, people

1149
01:16:11.279 --> 01:16:16.199
<v Speaker 5>thought that in the old days, so that didn't happen.

1150
01:16:16.279 --> 01:16:18.720
<v Speaker 5>But then the you know, the Internet was taking off

1151
01:16:19.800 --> 01:16:22.640
<v Speaker 5>in the late nineties and early two thousands, so I

1152
01:16:22.680 --> 01:16:24.760
<v Speaker 5>was getting a lot of attention. And then eventually the

1153
01:16:24.800 --> 01:16:27.840
<v Speaker 5>mainstream media did pay attention to me. And that's another

1154
01:16:27.880 --> 01:16:30.000
<v Speaker 5>thing I found out about the way the government and

1155
01:16:30.039 --> 01:16:32.640
<v Speaker 5>the media work they want to. They pay attention to

1156
01:16:32.680 --> 01:16:37.760
<v Speaker 5>you right before they take you down. Yes, so I

1157
01:16:37.800 --> 01:16:40.560
<v Speaker 5>was on sixty minutes too. You know there's a sixty

1158
01:16:40.600 --> 01:16:42.640
<v Speaker 5>minutes and a sixty minutes too. So I made it

1159
01:16:42.640 --> 01:16:44.800
<v Speaker 5>to sixty minutes too. I was interviewed by the New

1160
01:16:44.880 --> 01:16:51.800
<v Speaker 5>York Times and number of times, the Span, MSNBC, all

1161
01:16:51.880 --> 01:16:55.079
<v Speaker 5>kinds of media organs, and I'm thinking, wow, you know

1162
01:16:55.079 --> 01:16:57.560
<v Speaker 5>they're actually paying attention to not to me, but you

1163
01:16:57.600 --> 01:17:01.479
<v Speaker 5>know to the issue. I mean, we tried leveled to Congress,

1164
01:17:01.560 --> 01:17:04.960
<v Speaker 5>to to the White House, the Supreme Court, trying to

1165
01:17:05.039 --> 01:17:10.840
<v Speaker 5>petition for a redress of our grievances. Well in reward.

1166
01:17:11.479 --> 01:17:14.680
<v Speaker 5>As a reward for all my efforts, I was indicted

1167
01:17:14.800 --> 01:17:20.000
<v Speaker 5>in November of two thousand and four on four felony counts.

1168
01:17:20.520 --> 01:17:24.640
<v Speaker 5>Three counts were preparing three false federal income tax returns

1169
01:17:24.680 --> 01:17:28.000
<v Speaker 5>for a client, and the fourth count, for good measure,

1170
01:17:28.119 --> 01:17:33.000
<v Speaker 5>was conspiracy to defraud the United States of America. So

1171
01:17:33.239 --> 01:17:35.479
<v Speaker 5>my trial was in June of two thousand and five.

1172
01:17:35.680 --> 01:17:39.479
<v Speaker 5>I had about seven months to prepare and I was

1173
01:17:39.520 --> 01:17:42.239
<v Speaker 5>looking at I don't know, anywhere from probably three to

1174
01:17:42.600 --> 01:17:45.800
<v Speaker 5>five six years in federal prison. If I was convicted,

1175
01:17:46.840 --> 01:17:49.319
<v Speaker 5>and you know, the basic premise was that I prepared

1176
01:17:49.359 --> 01:17:51.800
<v Speaker 5>these tax returns on behalf of a client. He was

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01:17:52.000 --> 01:17:55.680
<v Speaker 5>he had already paid taxes and was seeking a refund,

1178
01:17:56.720 --> 01:17:58.920
<v Speaker 5>and there's a process that you follow, and that's why

1179
01:17:58.960 --> 01:18:00.800
<v Speaker 5>he hired me to make sure that we followed the

1180
01:18:00.880 --> 01:18:05.239
<v Speaker 5>process to the letter. But you know, as I mentioned

1181
01:18:05.279 --> 01:18:08.800
<v Speaker 5>about tax avoidance and tax evasion, they can turn tax

1182
01:18:08.840 --> 01:18:13.840
<v Speaker 5>avoidance seeking a refund, for example, into a crime, and

1183
01:18:13.880 --> 01:18:17.560
<v Speaker 5>so they call it false false refund claim. I was

1184
01:18:17.560 --> 01:18:20.359
<v Speaker 5>the one that prepared the tax return, so therefore I

1185
01:18:20.439 --> 01:18:24.640
<v Speaker 5>conspired with the client. Of course, none of that was true.

1186
01:18:25.000 --> 01:18:28.239
<v Speaker 5>They didn't even their experts on the witness stand. My

1187
01:18:28.319 --> 01:18:31.960
<v Speaker 5>attorneys walk them through just about every line of the

1188
01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:34.880
<v Speaker 5>tax returns and said, you know, is this line false?

1189
01:18:35.000 --> 01:18:37.920
<v Speaker 5>Is this line false? Is this line false? And there

1190
01:18:38.039 --> 01:18:40.800
<v Speaker 5>was nothing false about them, And so the jury's kind

1191
01:18:40.800 --> 01:18:45.199
<v Speaker 5>of scratching their heads, like why is this guy being prosecuted.

1192
01:18:45.239 --> 01:18:48.640
<v Speaker 5>The prosecution can't even tell us he did anything bad.

1193
01:18:49.920 --> 01:18:53.399
<v Speaker 5>So I was acquitted in June A, two thousand and

1194
01:18:53.399 --> 01:18:56.359
<v Speaker 5>five of those charges, and then of course the whole

1195
01:18:56.399 --> 01:19:04.079
<v Speaker 5>Iris civil function descended upon me with audits and and

1196
01:19:04.119 --> 01:19:08.920
<v Speaker 5>then the the CPA disbarment thing was percolating along, And

1197
01:19:09.760 --> 01:19:11.960
<v Speaker 5>of course that's one of the many reasons why I don't,

1198
01:19:12.079 --> 01:19:15.880
<v Speaker 5>you know, act like the pied Piper's telling people, hey,

1199
01:19:15.920 --> 01:19:18.479
<v Speaker 5>go battle with the I R S, because I just

1200
01:19:18.560 --> 01:19:21.760
<v Speaker 5>don't think most people are. I wasn't even really equipped

1201
01:19:22.159 --> 01:19:24.720
<v Speaker 5>for it. But you know, I just reach out to

1202
01:19:24.760 --> 01:19:28.039
<v Speaker 5>the Lord and know that he'll he'll protect you, and

1203
01:19:28.079 --> 01:19:32.079
<v Speaker 5>not necessarily from pain or suffering, but in terms of

1204
01:19:32.159 --> 01:19:35.960
<v Speaker 5>protection of your soul and you know, your your desire

1205
01:19:36.359 --> 01:19:36.880
<v Speaker 5>for truth.

1206
01:19:37.079 --> 01:19:39.560
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's right. That is the thing that matters, and

1207
01:19:39.600 --> 01:19:42.359
<v Speaker 2>that is the final court and judgment that matters, and

1208
01:19:42.399 --> 01:19:45.479
<v Speaker 2>that's what gives us the leverage to make these kinds

1209
01:19:45.479 --> 01:19:49.399
<v Speaker 2>of changes. Well, you know, I really and I understand

1210
01:19:49.439 --> 01:19:53.000
<v Speaker 2>because I have. I've talked to people who went to

1211
01:19:53.039 --> 01:19:54.880
<v Speaker 2>battle with the I R S. A new one guy

1212
01:19:54.920 --> 01:19:57.920
<v Speaker 2>who went to prison, and his you know what happened

1213
01:19:57.920 --> 01:20:00.239
<v Speaker 2>to him in trial was he went in and he

1214
01:20:00.479 --> 01:20:02.880
<v Speaker 2>thought he found something in the law that you know,

1215
01:20:02.920 --> 01:20:06.079
<v Speaker 2>shut everything down, and so he was going to make

1216
01:20:06.159 --> 01:20:08.920
<v Speaker 2>that the issue at the trial and he brings up

1217
01:20:08.920 --> 01:20:10.920
<v Speaker 2>he goes, what about this. I said, now, we're not

1218
01:20:10.920 --> 01:20:13.199
<v Speaker 2>going to talk about that. Next question, you know, and

1219
01:20:13.600 --> 01:20:16.279
<v Speaker 2>that was it. And yeah, he couldn't even find anybody

1220
01:20:16.279 --> 01:20:19.039
<v Speaker 2>who's going to represent him, so he does it, you know, himself.

1221
01:20:19.279 --> 01:20:22.000
<v Speaker 2>And they wouldn't answer the first question. They just shut

1222
01:20:22.000 --> 01:20:25.640
<v Speaker 2>everything down and wouldn't consider anything. Did they try to

1223
01:20:27.479 --> 01:20:30.640
<v Speaker 2>with your situation? They tried to bring enough charges that

1224
01:20:30.880 --> 01:20:33.039
<v Speaker 2>they offered you a plea bargain instead of having a

1225
01:20:33.079 --> 01:20:33.600
<v Speaker 2>jury trial.

1226
01:20:33.760 --> 01:20:37.079
<v Speaker 5>Was that, you know? Interestingly, and according to my attorneys

1227
01:20:37.119 --> 01:20:40.239
<v Speaker 5>who had had much more experience with trials, and please,

1228
01:20:40.920 --> 01:20:43.760
<v Speaker 5>they never offered me a plea. It's almost like they

1229
01:20:43.840 --> 01:20:48.680
<v Speaker 5>knew what fingers I would show them if they had.

1230
01:20:48.520 --> 01:20:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Done that bother with it.

1231
01:20:51.439 --> 01:20:53.720
<v Speaker 5>But they said it was really unprecedented that there wasn't

1232
01:20:53.720 --> 01:20:57.159
<v Speaker 5>even a plea offer. So they must have done some

1233
01:20:57.279 --> 01:21:01.279
<v Speaker 5>kind of study of my personality or something that you know,

1234
01:21:01.439 --> 01:21:04.800
<v Speaker 5>I granted, you know, there's people that are guilty of

1235
01:21:04.960 --> 01:21:08.199
<v Speaker 5>crimes that say, you know, I didn't do it, But

1236
01:21:08.840 --> 01:21:14.520
<v Speaker 5>I didn't. There was nothing untoward at all. You know,

1237
01:21:14.560 --> 01:21:17.119
<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't sign a document and a penalty perjury unless

1238
01:21:17.159 --> 01:21:19.800
<v Speaker 5>I knew that it was true, correct and complete. And

1239
01:21:19.840 --> 01:21:22.279
<v Speaker 5>of course the trial proved that they all were. But

1240
01:21:22.359 --> 01:21:25.039
<v Speaker 5>they charged me anyway. In fact, the special agent that

1241
01:21:25.079 --> 01:21:28.600
<v Speaker 5>I used to work with who investigated me, I have

1242
01:21:28.680 --> 01:21:32.279
<v Speaker 5>it from a very good source that he actually recommended

1243
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<v Speaker 5>that I not be prosecuted. And when a special agent,

1244
01:21:36.520 --> 01:21:41.960
<v Speaker 5>actually any investigator does an investigation, it's not a foregone

1245
01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:45.880
<v Speaker 5>conclusion that they're going to find that there's a crime. Granted, jury,

1246
01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:49.239
<v Speaker 5>grand juries and diet ham sandwiches, et cetera. But there

1247
01:21:49.319 --> 01:21:51.399
<v Speaker 5>is actually you come to the end of the road

1248
01:21:51.479 --> 01:21:54.319
<v Speaker 5>and the investigator is supposed to give it a recommendation

1249
01:21:54.680 --> 01:21:57.600
<v Speaker 5>should there be prosecution or not. And I've never been

1250
01:21:57.600 --> 01:21:59.439
<v Speaker 5>able to get my hands on the report, but a

1251
01:21:59.600 --> 01:22:03.840
<v Speaker 5>very reliable source said that the special agent actually recommended

1252
01:22:03.880 --> 01:22:06.279
<v Speaker 5>that I not be prosecuted because he could not find,

1253
01:22:06.479 --> 01:22:08.840
<v Speaker 5>you know, evidence that the elements of the crime had

1254
01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:14.039
<v Speaker 5>been satisfied. And yet the the DOJ, the i R S,

1255
01:22:14.199 --> 01:22:18.039
<v Speaker 5>you know, all the bureaucracy decided, well, we're going to

1256
01:22:18.039 --> 01:22:22.319
<v Speaker 5>prosecute him anyway, because we can't have this wayward guy

1257
01:22:23.560 --> 01:22:26.119
<v Speaker 5>telling the public that there might be an alternative to

1258
01:22:26.319 --> 01:22:28.800
<v Speaker 5>you know, our government position.

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01:22:28.880 --> 01:22:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Just just pure vindictiveness. And of course the reason that

1260
01:22:31.760 --> 01:22:34.760
<v Speaker 2>they'll do that is because they don't want to They

1261
01:22:34.800 --> 01:22:36.960
<v Speaker 2>dodn't want to lose a trial, you know, and so

1262
01:22:37.159 --> 01:22:38.720
<v Speaker 2>they're looking a lot of you know, what they do

1263
01:22:38.760 --> 01:22:42.720
<v Speaker 2>with the grand jury is to judge the strength of

1264
01:22:42.760 --> 01:22:45.800
<v Speaker 2>their case, and so you know, they don't nobody wants

1265
01:22:45.880 --> 01:22:48.359
<v Speaker 2>to go into this as an investigator or a prosecutor

1266
01:22:48.439 --> 01:22:52.119
<v Speaker 2>or whatever and lose, And so that's why they make

1267
01:22:52.159 --> 01:22:54.439
<v Speaker 2>those types of recommendations. But the higher ups just wanted

1268
01:22:54.479 --> 01:22:56.640
<v Speaker 2>to get even with that. Tell us a little bit

1269
01:22:56.640 --> 01:22:59.800
<v Speaker 2>about your take on what is happening with this expansion

1270
01:23:00.039 --> 01:23:03.039
<v Speaker 2>of the IRS, because now with this new bill that

1271
01:23:03.159 --> 01:23:06.399
<v Speaker 2>just got passed, they're going to take the budget that

1272
01:23:06.520 --> 01:23:08.960
<v Speaker 2>is currently twelve billion dollars and they're going to add

1273
01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:11.359
<v Speaker 2>eighty billion dollars to it. So it's going to be

1274
01:23:11.399 --> 01:23:13.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, about seven and a half times bigger than

1275
01:23:13.079 --> 01:23:16.600
<v Speaker 2>it is right now. From having been there in the past,

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01:23:17.159 --> 01:23:19.159
<v Speaker 2>how do you think this is going to play out?

1277
01:23:19.199 --> 01:23:21.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's been a lot of talk Joe about

1278
01:23:22.520 --> 01:23:25.000
<v Speaker 2>the IRS agents who are carrying guns and that type

1279
01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:27.199
<v Speaker 2>of thing. I know there'll be a lot of agents

1280
01:23:27.199 --> 01:23:31.279
<v Speaker 2>that'll just be doing audits, like from a CPA standpoint,

1281
01:23:31.600 --> 01:23:35.039
<v Speaker 2>But how do you think this is going to play

1282
01:23:35.079 --> 01:23:38.199
<v Speaker 2>out in terms of how it's going to affect us

1283
01:23:38.239 --> 01:23:39.399
<v Speaker 2>as individuals.

1284
01:23:40.199 --> 01:23:43.720
<v Speaker 5>Well, I could start with the criminal investigation component, just

1285
01:23:43.720 --> 01:23:47.399
<v Speaker 5>because I'm most familiar with that. But when I when

1286
01:23:47.439 --> 01:23:50.239
<v Speaker 5>I was with the IRS, there was I think between

1287
01:23:50.279 --> 01:23:56.079
<v Speaker 5>twenty eight hundred and three thousand IRS special agents, and now,

1288
01:23:56.159 --> 01:24:00.239
<v Speaker 5>or at least until this bill and the preparations for it,

1289
01:24:00.239 --> 01:24:03.720
<v Speaker 5>it's about twenty three hundred, So the head count actually

1290
01:24:03.800 --> 01:24:08.079
<v Speaker 5>went down by about seven hundred. I think even Rhino

1291
01:24:08.199 --> 01:24:13.119
<v Speaker 5>Republicans were hesitant to you know, beef up budgets for

1292
01:24:13.199 --> 01:24:16.079
<v Speaker 5>the IRS because you know, the public, at least they're

1293
01:24:16.119 --> 01:24:19.039
<v Speaker 5>going to that kind of information is going to going

1294
01:24:19.079 --> 01:24:25.560
<v Speaker 5>to percolate down to the average joe. So what's amazing though,

1295
01:24:25.840 --> 01:24:28.880
<v Speaker 5>is now, of course, with a barely or you know,

1296
01:24:28.920 --> 01:24:32.279
<v Speaker 5>democratically controlled Congress and a president that will sign the bill,

1297
01:24:32.880 --> 01:24:37.000
<v Speaker 5>this was basically their only chance to do what they

1298
01:24:37.079 --> 01:24:40.000
<v Speaker 5>probably wanted to do for you know, thirty forty years,

1299
01:24:40.600 --> 01:24:45.119
<v Speaker 5>to really just just pad in the billions and have

1300
01:24:45.199 --> 01:24:49.199
<v Speaker 5>all the personnel because the ultimate the ultimate goal really

1301
01:24:49.279 --> 01:24:55.880
<v Speaker 5>is fear so that people self well, just like self censorship, right,

1302
01:24:56.359 --> 01:24:59.680
<v Speaker 5>they self report, they pay more, they don't fight a

1303
01:24:59.720 --> 01:25:03.520
<v Speaker 5>note that's erroneous telling them that they own more taxes.

1304
01:25:03.920 --> 01:25:06.079
<v Speaker 5>They want to cultivate that fear so they get the

1305
01:25:06.079 --> 01:25:09.880
<v Speaker 5>compliance without really having to do anything that's right.

1306
01:25:10.640 --> 01:25:12.319
<v Speaker 2>And it's been very effective. I mean, when we look

1307
01:25:12.319 --> 01:25:15.720
<v Speaker 2>at an army of eighty seven thousand new agents, not

1308
01:25:15.800 --> 01:25:18.640
<v Speaker 2>all of them carrying guns, but you can destroy somebody's

1309
01:25:18.680 --> 01:25:21.520
<v Speaker 2>life with a pencil on the paper, right, And so

1310
01:25:21.560 --> 01:25:24.039
<v Speaker 2>when you look at that being unleashed on people, and

1311
01:25:24.079 --> 01:25:27.439
<v Speaker 2>when you look at the idea that the Democrats want

1312
01:25:27.479 --> 01:25:31.560
<v Speaker 2>to raise taxes, and for the most part, even though

1313
01:25:31.560 --> 01:25:33.920
<v Speaker 2>there were some corporate taxes in there that got raised,

1314
01:25:33.920 --> 01:25:35.720
<v Speaker 2>for the most part, they want to raise the revenue

1315
01:25:36.319 --> 01:25:38.800
<v Speaker 2>by squeezing it out of people with the current tax

1316
01:25:38.880 --> 01:25:40.920
<v Speaker 2>law and by using the IRS. I think that's the

1317
01:25:40.920 --> 01:25:47.560
<v Speaker 2>thing that is really concerning and intimidating and designed to intimidate.

1318
01:25:47.079 --> 01:25:52.000
<v Speaker 5>People, right, And they're really effective at using little buzz

1319
01:25:52.039 --> 01:25:56.880
<v Speaker 5>phrases like tax the rich, pay your fair share, and

1320
01:25:56.960 --> 01:26:00.439
<v Speaker 5>you know these Pavlovian they get the Pavlovian respond You

1321
01:26:00.479 --> 01:26:02.479
<v Speaker 5>know that when you're you have to be afraid that

1322
01:26:02.560 --> 01:26:05.760
<v Speaker 5>in a jury. Thankfully I didn't have such a jury.

1323
01:26:05.800 --> 01:26:08.560
<v Speaker 5>I had a thinking jury, but the jury that's like, well,

1324
01:26:09.239 --> 01:26:11.079
<v Speaker 5>I got to pay my fair share he got to

1325
01:26:11.119 --> 01:26:14.039
<v Speaker 5>pay his and they convince you, you know, over that

1326
01:26:14.079 --> 01:26:17.840
<v Speaker 5>as opposed to whether you actually violated a law. But

1327
01:26:17.960 --> 01:26:22.800
<v Speaker 5>the yeah, the intimidation is is the go to way

1328
01:26:22.800 --> 01:26:25.279
<v Speaker 5>that they get things done. I guess what I'm concerned

1329
01:26:25.279 --> 01:26:29.079
<v Speaker 5>about is, well, for what the good news? I'll say, first,

1330
01:26:29.479 --> 01:26:32.439
<v Speaker 5>it's going to take quite a bit of time to

1331
01:26:32.760 --> 01:26:37.119
<v Speaker 5>ramp up to on board. Even if they do have

1332
01:26:37.159 --> 01:26:40.359
<v Speaker 5>the budget for eighty seven thousand new people, it's going

1333
01:26:40.439 --> 01:26:44.520
<v Speaker 5>to take a few years at you know, to ramp

1334
01:26:44.560 --> 01:26:46.880
<v Speaker 5>them up where they're trained and they're actually then making

1335
01:26:46.920 --> 01:26:50.279
<v Speaker 5>phone calls and sending letters and so in the meantime,

1336
01:26:50.439 --> 01:26:53.760
<v Speaker 5>you know, that's more Americans that can wake up and

1337
01:26:54.199 --> 01:26:57.079
<v Speaker 5>get the law repealed or or take away their budget

1338
01:26:57.359 --> 01:27:00.119
<v Speaker 5>or and these are stop gap right, I mean, And

1339
01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:05.880
<v Speaker 5>obviously the agency shouldn't even exist, yesil, And I guess

1340
01:27:05.880 --> 01:27:06.479
<v Speaker 5>that's a question.

1341
01:27:06.520 --> 01:27:08.479
<v Speaker 2>You know, we can't get the GOP to do anything

1342
01:27:08.479 --> 01:27:12.560
<v Speaker 2>to really change this structure. You talked about how it

1343
01:27:12.600 --> 01:27:15.359
<v Speaker 2>was created nineteen thirteen. You know, what did we do

1344
01:27:15.399 --> 01:27:19.199
<v Speaker 2>before that. I've mentioned many times that Thomas Jefferson said

1345
01:27:19.199 --> 01:27:22.039
<v Speaker 2>and bragged about in his second inaugural address that they

1346
01:27:22.039 --> 01:27:26.520
<v Speaker 2>had eliminated useless offices and spending in his first administration,

1347
01:27:26.840 --> 01:27:30.359
<v Speaker 2>and so he said no American now, no no American,

1348
01:27:30.439 --> 01:27:33.039
<v Speaker 2>no farmer, no labor or no mechanic knows the taxman.

1349
01:27:33.159 --> 01:27:36.239
<v Speaker 2>They didn't have any internal taxes at all. They had

1350
01:27:36.279 --> 01:27:39.600
<v Speaker 2>all the government was run off of taxes at the border.

1351
01:27:39.640 --> 01:27:42.239
<v Speaker 2>But when we had this globalization come in the early

1352
01:27:42.279 --> 01:27:45.720
<v Speaker 2>part of the twentieth century, they started they completely reversed

1353
01:27:45.720 --> 01:27:50.560
<v Speaker 2>that to make this something coming after Americans internally, that

1354
01:27:50.680 --> 01:27:53.279
<v Speaker 2>the internal revenue. You know, they'd had external revenue. Now

1355
01:27:53.319 --> 01:27:56.840
<v Speaker 2>it becomes internal revenue and lockstep of the federal reserve

1356
01:27:57.319 --> 01:28:01.880
<v Speaker 2>and focusing on a Mariamericans rather than you know, collecting

1357
01:28:01.960 --> 01:28:06.560
<v Speaker 2>the revenue at the border. So I don't really think

1358
01:28:06.600 --> 01:28:08.760
<v Speaker 2>that the GOP is going to do anything to even

1359
01:28:08.760 --> 01:28:11.920
<v Speaker 2>pull back this increase, do you No.

1360
01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:14.319
<v Speaker 5>I'm just saying, like, you know, the ramp up will

1361
01:28:14.359 --> 01:28:17.199
<v Speaker 5>take a while, and we just have to keep growing

1362
01:28:17.199 --> 01:28:19.840
<v Speaker 5>our numbers. And you know, David Knight needs to have

1363
01:28:21.279 --> 01:28:24.760
<v Speaker 5>ten and twenty and thirty million listeners and viewers.

1364
01:28:24.800 --> 01:28:29.279
<v Speaker 2>And I would tell them all that stuff if I did. Yeah,

1365
01:28:29.279 --> 01:28:31.880
<v Speaker 2>there's a guy that's come out as a whistleblower in

1366
01:28:32.000 --> 01:28:34.600
<v Speaker 2>terms of talking about how this is going to impact people.

1367
01:28:35.239 --> 01:28:37.760
<v Speaker 2>William Hank I'm sure that you've seen what he's had

1368
01:28:37.760 --> 01:28:41.880
<v Speaker 2>to say, a former lawyer for the IRS, and he's saying, no,

1369
01:28:41.920 --> 01:28:45.000
<v Speaker 2>they're going to focus on lower income people. He said,

1370
01:28:45.039 --> 01:28:47.199
<v Speaker 2>that's what they've always done, and of course they're not

1371
01:28:47.239 --> 01:28:48.960
<v Speaker 2>going to be able to raise the kinds of money.

1372
01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:50.399
<v Speaker 2>And he goes through it. He says, yeah, they're saying

1373
01:28:50.399 --> 01:28:52.039
<v Speaker 2>they're going to raise this much revenue. Well, there isn't

1374
01:28:52.039 --> 01:28:53.880
<v Speaker 2>that much revenue. If you're going to talk about people

1375
01:28:53.880 --> 01:28:56.560
<v Speaker 2>making over four hundred thousand dollars, there's absolutely no way

1376
01:28:56.600 --> 01:28:59.079
<v Speaker 2>they could squeeze that kind of revenue out of them.

1377
01:28:59.279 --> 01:29:02.000
<v Speaker 2>They're going to have to go to the people with

1378
01:29:02.319 --> 01:29:06.319
<v Speaker 2>lower incomes. What was your experience when they would when

1379
01:29:06.319 --> 01:29:08.000
<v Speaker 2>you were at the IRS, I mean, how how was

1380
01:29:08.039 --> 01:29:11.720
<v Speaker 2>this uh how was the split between the middle class

1381
01:29:11.880 --> 01:29:15.520
<v Speaker 2>and the poor people and wealthy people in terms of audits,

1382
01:29:15.600 --> 01:29:18.319
<v Speaker 2>in terms of the way they come after them.

1383
01:29:18.479 --> 01:29:21.479
<v Speaker 5>Well, there was the there would definitely be an effort

1384
01:29:21.560 --> 01:29:24.600
<v Speaker 5>to go after the we call them poster children, the

1385
01:29:24.680 --> 01:29:27.479
<v Speaker 5>Leona Helmsley's, you know, the and.

1386
01:29:27.439 --> 01:29:29.840
<v Speaker 2>There's always one of those every year around April fifteenth,

1387
01:29:29.920 --> 01:29:30.680
<v Speaker 2>isn't it interesting?

1388
01:29:31.319 --> 01:29:34.640
<v Speaker 5>Right, Yeah, we call it we with Gallas humor call

1389
01:29:34.680 --> 01:29:36.239
<v Speaker 5>it tax terrorism season.

1390
01:29:37.920 --> 01:29:40.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's going to be the poster child this year

1391
01:29:40.159 --> 01:29:41.840
<v Speaker 2>for you better pay your taxes, you know.

1392
01:29:42.319 --> 01:29:44.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So we always and there was there would be

1393
01:29:44.800 --> 01:29:48.640
<v Speaker 5>an uptick, like basically the management was looking even on

1394
01:29:48.680 --> 01:29:51.600
<v Speaker 5>a smaller scale, not the Willie Nelson's and the Pete Roses,

1395
01:29:52.960 --> 01:29:56.159
<v Speaker 5>but still on a smaller scale locally, you know, okay,

1396
01:29:56.359 --> 01:30:01.000
<v Speaker 5>timing of the indictments and the press releases and just

1397
01:30:01.079 --> 01:30:03.840
<v Speaker 5>cultivating that fear. Of course they didn't call it that,

1398
01:30:04.079 --> 01:30:06.920
<v Speaker 5>but ultimately that was just you know, they know that

1399
01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:10.239
<v Speaker 5>they can only get so much enforcement out there, but

1400
01:30:10.319 --> 01:30:13.960
<v Speaker 5>they know how much fear and intimidation they can generate

1401
01:30:14.079 --> 01:30:18.439
<v Speaker 5>by the publicity, and so that's always been the priority.

1402
01:30:18.520 --> 01:30:23.159
<v Speaker 5>But you know, I worked on some famous cases that

1403
01:30:23.199 --> 01:30:25.199
<v Speaker 5>may have been famous around the Bay Area, you know,

1404
01:30:25.319 --> 01:30:30.239
<v Speaker 5>or California at the time, but you had but lots

1405
01:30:30.239 --> 01:30:35.079
<v Speaker 5>of you know, really people that weren't weren't very wealthy.

1406
01:30:36.319 --> 01:30:41.680
<v Speaker 5>We're certainly targeted this investigation that we would do. I

1407
01:30:41.760 --> 01:30:43.640
<v Speaker 5>believe they still do. You probably heard of the Earned

1408
01:30:43.640 --> 01:30:47.359
<v Speaker 5>income tax credit, and every year of the Congress would

1409
01:30:47.359 --> 01:30:49.479
<v Speaker 5>want us to go out the special agents because you'd

1410
01:30:49.479 --> 01:30:51.439
<v Speaker 5>be knocking on doors, so they wanted to have the

1411
01:30:51.560 --> 01:30:56.079
<v Speaker 5>armed agents do so. And we would find massive fraud

1412
01:30:56.600 --> 01:31:00.000
<v Speaker 5>in the E t C program and we'd report it

1413
01:31:00.119 --> 01:31:03.119
<v Speaker 5>to Congress, and Congress would just keep increasing the budget

1414
01:31:03.159 --> 01:31:06.840
<v Speaker 5>on it everywhere. And of course you've heard about all

1415
01:31:06.840 --> 01:31:10.840
<v Speaker 5>the Solid Security number fraud that goes on. I mean, literally,

1416
01:31:10.960 --> 01:31:16.479
<v Speaker 5>it is such a pathetic, ugly, gross system, don't you know.

1417
01:31:16.479 --> 01:31:18.920
<v Speaker 5>I'm still out at twenty three years trying to wake

1418
01:31:18.960 --> 01:31:22.520
<v Speaker 5>people up. I don't know why the American people put

1419
01:31:22.600 --> 01:31:24.079
<v Speaker 5>up with it, and I think, you know, if there

1420
01:31:24.119 --> 01:31:27.600
<v Speaker 5>were enough we could change it. And so that's why

1421
01:31:27.680 --> 01:31:29.920
<v Speaker 5>you and I know, beat our heads against the wall

1422
01:31:30.079 --> 01:31:32.880
<v Speaker 5>just trying to tell the truth and hope that people

1423
01:31:32.960 --> 01:31:36.479
<v Speaker 5>will listen, because in a sense, we're inflicting our own punishment,

1424
01:31:36.640 --> 01:31:40.000
<v Speaker 5>you know, by not gathering together and saying you've had enough.

1425
01:31:40.399 --> 01:31:43.239
<v Speaker 2>I agree, Yeah, that is exactly it. And they take

1426
01:31:43.239 --> 01:31:45.960
<v Speaker 2>advantage of people. It's one of the things that Think

1427
01:31:46.000 --> 01:31:48.800
<v Speaker 2>and others were saying was that they typically go for

1428
01:31:48.840 --> 01:31:51.239
<v Speaker 2>a low hanging fruit. They go for people who don't

1429
01:31:51.239 --> 01:31:54.520
<v Speaker 2>have a lot of money, who cannot and they guess

1430
01:31:54.560 --> 01:31:56.439
<v Speaker 2>they're not going to go out and hire a lawyer

1431
01:31:56.560 --> 01:31:59.479
<v Speaker 2>to fight back against this, like rich people would, and

1432
01:32:00.560 --> 01:32:02.720
<v Speaker 2>so they just know that's going to be low hanging fruit.

1433
01:32:02.760 --> 01:32:04.119
<v Speaker 2>It's going to be easy for them to get it.

1434
01:32:04.159 --> 01:32:07.479
<v Speaker 2>And we've seen that with civil asset forfeiture as well,

1435
01:32:08.039 --> 01:32:10.880
<v Speaker 2>when they would go around Chicago. Most of the cars

1436
01:32:10.880 --> 01:32:14.239
<v Speaker 2>and things like that they're solen, have a low value.

1437
01:32:14.880 --> 01:32:18.199
<v Speaker 2>They're right around one thousand dollars because they charge somebody

1438
01:32:18.239 --> 01:32:20.039
<v Speaker 2>if they want to fight this, they have to come

1439
01:32:20.119 --> 01:32:23.399
<v Speaker 2>up with nine hundred dollars to start these civil proceedings

1440
01:32:23.439 --> 01:32:25.800
<v Speaker 2>to try to prove that they're innocent. Same thing we

1441
01:32:25.800 --> 01:32:27.960
<v Speaker 2>see with the irs, Right, you're guilty and you have

1442
01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:31.199
<v Speaker 2>to prove that you're innocent. And so they take the

1443
01:32:31.239 --> 01:32:33.640
<v Speaker 2>cars from these people who have cars that are only

1444
01:32:33.680 --> 01:32:35.760
<v Speaker 2>worth a little bit more than they would have to

1445
01:32:36.520 --> 01:32:40.159
<v Speaker 2>pony up in order to contest this, and so as

1446
01:32:40.159 --> 01:32:42.000
<v Speaker 2>a result, they just walk away with this stuff left

1447
01:32:42.039 --> 01:32:44.119
<v Speaker 2>and right. I think that's what's happening a great deal

1448
01:32:44.159 --> 01:32:47.960
<v Speaker 2>with this as well, intimidating people and especially preying on

1449
01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:50.319
<v Speaker 2>people they know aren't going to fight back. So what

1450
01:32:50.359 --> 01:32:53.159
<v Speaker 2>do we tell people? What is it that that people

1451
01:32:53.239 --> 01:32:56.399
<v Speaker 2>need to know about the IRS, because I don't want

1452
01:32:56.399 --> 01:32:58.880
<v Speaker 2>to encourage people to go directly into battle with this

1453
01:32:58.880 --> 01:33:02.359
<v Speaker 2>corrupt organization that a lot of power. But what do

1454
01:33:02.399 --> 01:33:05.800
<v Speaker 2>we do in terms as citizens to try to change

1455
01:33:05.880 --> 01:33:08.920
<v Speaker 2>this thing? What would you suggest and what do you

1456
01:33:08.960 --> 01:33:10.159
<v Speaker 2>tell your listeners about this?

1457
01:33:11.880 --> 01:33:14.960
<v Speaker 5>Well, certainly from a you know, I realized the frustration

1458
01:33:15.239 --> 01:33:18.520
<v Speaker 5>of you know, writing writing to your congressman and whatever

1459
01:33:18.560 --> 01:33:20.760
<v Speaker 5>it might be because they won't listen. But you know,

1460
01:33:21.600 --> 01:33:24.079
<v Speaker 5>I still think you got to do that, and you've

1461
01:33:24.079 --> 01:33:26.039
<v Speaker 5>got to encourage others to do that. They have to

1462
01:33:26.119 --> 01:33:30.119
<v Speaker 5>hear from people that they're upset. The other thing is

1463
01:33:30.239 --> 01:33:32.800
<v Speaker 5>another thing is I would say, don't you know if

1464
01:33:32.800 --> 01:33:35.399
<v Speaker 5>you can help it, find some time that rather than

1465
01:33:35.399 --> 01:33:38.960
<v Speaker 5>watching a football game or you know, some pastime. We

1466
01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:44.560
<v Speaker 5>all need our R and R. But learn about your rights,

1467
01:33:44.720 --> 01:33:48.600
<v Speaker 5>learn about the limits to their even over the boundaries

1468
01:33:48.640 --> 01:33:52.439
<v Speaker 5>of authority. What to do if an agent knocks at

1469
01:33:52.439 --> 01:33:54.680
<v Speaker 5>your door? What what do you have to do? What

1470
01:33:54.720 --> 01:33:57.359
<v Speaker 5>will what can you do? Don't give them the rope

1471
01:33:57.399 --> 01:34:01.279
<v Speaker 5>to hang you with it? And that that's probably the

1472
01:34:01.319 --> 01:34:05.039
<v Speaker 5>you know, phone calls and UH house visits or office

1473
01:34:05.119 --> 01:34:08.239
<v Speaker 5>visits by I R S agents. Certainly with if there's

1474
01:34:08.239 --> 01:34:12.560
<v Speaker 5>going to be eighty seven thousand new agents pounding the pavement. Uh,

1475
01:34:12.600 --> 01:34:16.079
<v Speaker 5>they're gonna have a lot better opportunity to knock, do

1476
01:34:16.199 --> 01:34:20.359
<v Speaker 5>knock and talks. And if people realize they don't have

1477
01:34:20.399 --> 01:34:23.760
<v Speaker 5>to even open the door. I mean, why do people

1478
01:34:23.760 --> 01:34:27.199
<v Speaker 5>have ring cameras and stuff on their on their front porch,

1479
01:34:27.319 --> 01:34:30.119
<v Speaker 5>you know? I mean I read I read an article

1480
01:34:30.199 --> 01:34:32.399
<v Speaker 5>yesterday that was actually like a next door kind of

1481
01:34:32.439 --> 01:34:35.760
<v Speaker 5>a thing, and the woman says, the man covered my camera,

1482
01:34:35.880 --> 01:34:38.840
<v Speaker 5>so I opened the door to find out what he

1483
01:34:39.000 --> 01:34:43.600
<v Speaker 5>was doing. Like what, you know, don't don't open the door.

1484
01:34:43.840 --> 01:34:47.159
<v Speaker 5>You know, learn there's there's videos out now about like

1485
01:34:47.199 --> 01:34:49.640
<v Speaker 5>the ATF you probably heard out there doing knock and

1486
01:34:49.720 --> 01:34:53.479
<v Speaker 5>talks more more frequently because somebody bought two guns all

1487
01:34:53.479 --> 01:34:56.159
<v Speaker 5>of a sudden. It's an arsenal or you know, some

1488
01:34:56.159 --> 01:34:59.880
<v Speaker 5>some bs premise that they give to uh to to fit.

1489
01:35:00.319 --> 01:35:02.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, show me your phones. I want to make sure

1490
01:35:02.039 --> 01:35:04.359
<v Speaker 2>that you still got your guns, that these weren't straw purchases.

1491
01:35:04.640 --> 01:35:07.920
<v Speaker 2>That's what they do. And it is surprising and people

1492
01:35:08.279 --> 01:35:10.359
<v Speaker 2>and some of the people who did record this on

1493
01:35:11.000 --> 01:35:14.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, doorbell camera then said, you know, I knew

1494
01:35:14.760 --> 01:35:17.279
<v Speaker 2>this is wrong. I knew they didn't have a search warrant,

1495
01:35:17.319 --> 01:35:18.880
<v Speaker 2>but I was so intimidated by it. And that's the

1496
01:35:18.880 --> 01:35:21.359
<v Speaker 2>way this works, the way the irs works as well.

1497
01:35:21.760 --> 01:35:23.760
<v Speaker 2>And if they're going to do that over guns, you

1498
01:35:23.760 --> 01:35:26.000
<v Speaker 2>know they're going to do this with you know, eighty

1499
01:35:26.039 --> 01:35:28.079
<v Speaker 2>seven thousand new agents. You know that there's going to

1500
01:35:28.119 --> 01:35:30.439
<v Speaker 2>be a tremendous amount of this, you know. I think

1501
01:35:30.479 --> 01:35:34.079
<v Speaker 2>that's very sound advice to know what your legal rights are,

1502
01:35:34.199 --> 01:35:38.399
<v Speaker 2>what their legal authority is, before this happens, because again

1503
01:35:38.760 --> 01:35:40.640
<v Speaker 2>that once they get these agents in it, it's going

1504
01:35:40.680 --> 01:35:43.479
<v Speaker 2>to take a little while it is, it's going to

1505
01:35:43.560 --> 01:35:47.319
<v Speaker 2>ramp up exponentially, and your chances of having an encounter

1506
01:35:47.439 --> 01:35:49.720
<v Speaker 2>like that are going to go up exponentially as well.

1507
01:35:50.159 --> 01:35:55.359
<v Speaker 2>I've talked in the past to a father who was

1508
01:35:56.960 --> 01:36:01.880
<v Speaker 2>trapped in this CPS type of stuff and Dwight Mitchell,

1509
01:36:02.039 --> 01:36:04.479
<v Speaker 2>and he went through the ringer with this thing, and

1510
01:36:04.520 --> 01:36:07.960
<v Speaker 2>he set up an organization and try to educate people

1511
01:36:08.119 --> 01:36:10.640
<v Speaker 2>about what their rights are with this. And that was

1512
01:36:10.680 --> 01:36:13.199
<v Speaker 2>one of the first things he told them was do

1513
01:36:13.199 --> 01:36:16.279
<v Speaker 2>not talk to these people. Everybody wants to initially talk

1514
01:36:16.319 --> 01:36:18.079
<v Speaker 2>to them and say, yeah, let me just show you

1515
01:36:18.119 --> 01:36:20.000
<v Speaker 2>that I didn't do anything wrong. You know, that's your

1516
01:36:20.039 --> 01:36:22.880
<v Speaker 2>first approach to it. That's not what this is about.

1517
01:36:23.159 --> 01:36:27.199
<v Speaker 2>This is they're fishing for things and they will misconstrue

1518
01:36:27.720 --> 01:36:30.199
<v Speaker 2>what you're telling them for their own purposes. So he

1519
01:36:30.239 --> 01:36:32.560
<v Speaker 2>says you do not talk to them. That isn't it

1520
01:36:32.640 --> 01:36:34.760
<v Speaker 2>a sign that you're guilty. It's a sign that you

1521
01:36:34.920 --> 01:36:37.640
<v Speaker 2>understand what this process is really about. And I think

1522
01:36:37.720 --> 01:36:41.039
<v Speaker 2>that's something very important for people to understand about these

1523
01:36:41.640 --> 01:36:43.680
<v Speaker 2>this new army of IRS agents that are going to

1524
01:36:43.720 --> 01:36:47.520
<v Speaker 2>be knocking on your door, ringing your ringing your phone.

1525
01:36:48.399 --> 01:36:50.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I have your you know, I don't know, maybe

1526
01:36:50.239 --> 01:36:52.720
<v Speaker 5>in technologies advanced quite a bit, but you know, you

1527
01:36:52.760 --> 01:36:55.640
<v Speaker 5>can monitor your calls when they call on the answering

1528
01:36:55.680 --> 01:36:57.479
<v Speaker 5>machine and you can hear who it is, and it's

1529
01:36:57.560 --> 01:37:00.479
<v Speaker 5>usually a telemarketer, but it might be an IR agent,

1530
01:37:00.760 --> 01:37:03.960
<v Speaker 5>maybe somebody pretending to be an IRS agent. Even knocking

1531
01:37:03.960 --> 01:37:05.399
<v Speaker 5>at the doors. I'm sure there'll be a whole new

1532
01:37:05.439 --> 01:37:09.560
<v Speaker 5>scams of people pretending to be IRS agents. So there's

1533
01:37:09.720 --> 01:37:13.279
<v Speaker 5>multiple reasons why a person doesn't need to even open

1534
01:37:13.319 --> 01:37:19.279
<v Speaker 5>the door. There's no crime against not talking, and you know,

1535
01:37:19.319 --> 01:37:22.239
<v Speaker 5>and again in the meantime, spend some time, you know,

1536
01:37:22.279 --> 01:37:25.159
<v Speaker 5>maybe on my website, I have links to other websites.

1537
01:37:25.720 --> 01:37:29.399
<v Speaker 5>Your website, Listen to your shows, because even when you're

1538
01:37:29.439 --> 01:37:36.520
<v Speaker 5>interviewing CPS victims and AT and gun victims, it's really

1539
01:37:36.560 --> 01:37:39.520
<v Speaker 5>all the same. It is dance card. You know, it's

1540
01:37:39.520 --> 01:37:42.239
<v Speaker 5>about you do have rights. I mean, you know, as

1541
01:37:42.319 --> 01:37:48.079
<v Speaker 5>much as I've been harassed over my whistle blowing, you know,

1542
01:37:48.199 --> 01:37:50.680
<v Speaker 5>I still had a trial and there was a jury,

1543
01:37:51.479 --> 01:37:53.760
<v Speaker 5>and you know I didn't have to In fact, I

1544
01:37:53.760 --> 01:37:57.720
<v Speaker 5>didn't testify and I was still acquitted. I was able

1545
01:37:57.720 --> 01:38:01.159
<v Speaker 5>to remain silent because the Constitution knowledges that I have

1546
01:38:01.239 --> 01:38:04.199
<v Speaker 5>that right. So you know, we need to use the

1547
01:38:04.279 --> 01:38:07.319
<v Speaker 5>rights that we still have, to fight for the rights

1548
01:38:07.319 --> 01:38:12.640
<v Speaker 5>that have been taken away and just just just fight, fight, fight,

1549
01:38:12.920 --> 01:38:15.600
<v Speaker 5>you know, the entire the entire way, and recognize that

1550
01:38:15.640 --> 01:38:19.079
<v Speaker 5>the government, you know, isn't your friend, and the investigators

1551
01:38:19.159 --> 01:38:22.439
<v Speaker 5>have they're looking for more hash marks to get their promotions,

1552
01:38:23.760 --> 01:38:26.000
<v Speaker 5>and they just do not have your best interest. Now,

1553
01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:28.560
<v Speaker 5>there are some you know that, like I believe I

1554
01:38:28.600 --> 01:38:31.279
<v Speaker 5>went to a search warrant once as an IRS special agent,

1555
01:38:32.079 --> 01:38:34.840
<v Speaker 5>and you know I was smiling and not like you know,

1556
01:38:35.000 --> 01:38:37.439
<v Speaker 5>nasty kind of a smile like oh, we're getting you.

1557
01:38:37.840 --> 01:38:40.039
<v Speaker 5>But just like I had a demeanor like I do now,

1558
01:38:40.159 --> 01:38:42.199
<v Speaker 5>you know, just like I'm trying to do the right thing.

1559
01:38:43.119 --> 01:38:46.600
<v Speaker 5>And these other senior agents wanted to take a bunch

1560
01:38:46.640 --> 01:38:49.039
<v Speaker 5>of stuff, a bunch of assets that weren't on the

1561
01:38:49.079 --> 01:38:53.239
<v Speaker 5>search warrant to be taken. They basically just wanted to

1562
01:38:53.520 --> 01:38:58.000
<v Speaker 5>just read these people by taking all their jewelry. And

1563
01:38:58.039 --> 01:39:01.359
<v Speaker 5>I happened to be the Asset forfeits coordinator at the time,

1564
01:39:02.079 --> 01:39:05.079
<v Speaker 5>and I said, we're not taking that stuff. We have

1565
01:39:05.159 --> 01:39:07.880
<v Speaker 5>no authority to take it. And he says, yes, we are.

1566
01:39:08.039 --> 01:39:10.199
<v Speaker 5>You know, I'm senior to you. I said, I'm the

1567
01:39:10.239 --> 01:39:13.760
<v Speaker 5>Asset fourfiture coordinator, and I have to inventory this stuff

1568
01:39:13.800 --> 01:39:16.720
<v Speaker 5>and explain and justify why we took it. We're not

1569
01:39:16.920 --> 01:39:19.319
<v Speaker 5>taking it.

1570
01:39:19.399 --> 01:39:22.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, good for you. Yeah, So I sid forfeiture. That's

1571
01:39:22.159 --> 01:39:23.760
<v Speaker 2>one of the big things that's come in. And of

1572
01:39:23.800 --> 01:39:27.319
<v Speaker 2>course you know IRS as well as the DEA, all

1573
01:39:27.319 --> 01:39:29.319
<v Speaker 2>these different organizations are doing it.

1574
01:39:29.439 --> 01:39:29.600
<v Speaker 4>Now.

1575
01:39:29.600 --> 01:39:32.239
<v Speaker 2>We have in California even a sheriff's office that is

1576
01:39:32.600 --> 01:39:37.000
<v Speaker 2>actually robbing armored cars and the pretense that this has

1577
01:39:37.079 --> 01:39:41.560
<v Speaker 2>contaminated money, even though the marijuana facility was legal there

1578
01:39:41.560 --> 01:39:44.079
<v Speaker 2>in California under federal law. It's not so we're going

1579
01:39:44.159 --> 01:39:47.880
<v Speaker 2>to steal everything, everything in your armored car. It's just

1580
01:39:48.039 --> 01:39:50.800
<v Speaker 2>incredible what is happening now. But you know, one of

1581
01:39:50.840 --> 01:39:52.680
<v Speaker 2>the things I want to get your take on this,

1582
01:39:53.039 --> 01:39:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Stuart or Joe, is that you know, we have we

1583
01:39:58.840 --> 01:40:02.840
<v Speaker 2>have a government the claims that the deficit doesn't matter anymore.

1584
01:40:03.479 --> 01:40:06.479
<v Speaker 2>This is a claim that was made during COVID by Republicans,

1585
01:40:06.680 --> 01:40:09.039
<v Speaker 2>by Trump and the other people who signed on to this.

1586
01:40:09.119 --> 01:40:11.359
<v Speaker 2>The only person who seemed to have a problem with

1587
01:40:11.600 --> 01:40:16.039
<v Speaker 2>the three trillion plus expenditure was Thomas Massey, and they

1588
01:40:16.079 --> 01:40:17.960
<v Speaker 2>were furious with him, try to get him thrown out,

1589
01:40:18.039 --> 01:40:22.239
<v Speaker 2>especially Trump. And so with the Democrats, they've embraced this

1590
01:40:22.560 --> 01:40:25.520
<v Speaker 2>modern monetary theory and they're adamant about the fact that

1591
01:40:25.560 --> 01:40:29.279
<v Speaker 2>the deficits don't matter whatsoever. And so then the question becomes,

1592
01:40:29.319 --> 01:40:31.960
<v Speaker 2>why do we even need to have any taxes? Is

1593
01:40:31.960 --> 01:40:34.319
<v Speaker 2>it just to take away all of our disposable income.

1594
01:40:34.439 --> 01:40:35.760
<v Speaker 2>I think that's one of the things that needs to

1595
01:40:35.800 --> 01:40:38.159
<v Speaker 2>be pointed out to some of these Republicans. It's like,

1596
01:40:38.159 --> 01:40:40.760
<v Speaker 2>if you guys don't really care the deficit matters, why

1597
01:40:40.800 --> 01:40:45.560
<v Speaker 2>are you pushing us on these taxes. They really don't

1598
01:40:45.640 --> 01:40:49.640
<v Speaker 2>have a rationale even for doing this, because they're nowhere

1599
01:40:49.640 --> 01:40:52.880
<v Speaker 2>near balancing the budget and they're never going to balance

1600
01:40:52.880 --> 01:40:54.680
<v Speaker 2>the budget. And they know that. That's why some of

1601
01:40:54.720 --> 01:40:57.279
<v Speaker 2>them were talking about having a constitutional convention in order

1602
01:40:57.279 --> 01:40:59.600
<v Speaker 2>to try to force a balanced budget. But of course

1603
01:40:59.640 --> 01:41:02.159
<v Speaker 2>that of itself is a very dangerous thing. But they

1604
01:41:02.239 --> 01:41:04.159
<v Speaker 2>know that there isn't the will to balance the budget.

1605
01:41:04.159 --> 01:41:05.600
<v Speaker 2>So why are we doing the taxes?

1606
01:41:06.680 --> 01:41:10.319
<v Speaker 5>No, I totally agree. In fact, here I was with CPA,

1607
01:41:11.479 --> 01:41:13.439
<v Speaker 5>got hired by the I R S and all these

1608
01:41:13.439 --> 01:41:16.920
<v Speaker 5>things that I you know that, as we joked, we're

1609
01:41:16.960 --> 01:41:21.600
<v Speaker 5>out in the conspiracy theory territory. We're all completely factual

1610
01:41:22.680 --> 01:41:25.239
<v Speaker 5>as far as the monetary system. The real purpose for

1611
01:41:25.279 --> 01:41:27.920
<v Speaker 5>the income tax to you know, kind of scrape off

1612
01:41:28.439 --> 01:41:33.880
<v Speaker 5>all that excess money printing to keep inflation under control.

1613
01:41:34.279 --> 01:41:37.600
<v Speaker 5>And when the government can you borrow endlessly from the

1614
01:41:37.640 --> 01:41:42.439
<v Speaker 5>federal reserve to fund its operations, why is there a

1615
01:41:42.479 --> 01:41:44.880
<v Speaker 5>need for an income tax, Well, of course it's because

1616
01:41:45.439 --> 01:41:47.960
<v Speaker 5>the federal Reserve prints the money out of thin air

1617
01:41:48.640 --> 01:41:52.039
<v Speaker 5>and then lends it to the government. And the government's

1618
01:41:52.359 --> 01:41:54.880
<v Speaker 5>role is to you know, the point of a gun

1619
01:41:55.920 --> 01:41:58.840
<v Speaker 5>bring the tax money back to to the Federal Reserve

1620
01:41:58.880 --> 01:41:59.960
<v Speaker 5>in terms of interest payment.

1621
01:42:00.439 --> 01:42:01.079
<v Speaker 2>I agree.

1622
01:42:01.359 --> 01:42:04.720
<v Speaker 5>So, you know, it's too bad the public. I mean,

1623
01:42:04.880 --> 01:42:07.199
<v Speaker 5>there's some complexities to it, but you know, books like

1624
01:42:07.239 --> 01:42:12.199
<v Speaker 5>Creature from Jekyl Island by Jedward Griffin, America Freedom to Fascism,

1625
01:42:12.239 --> 01:42:14.039
<v Speaker 5>a film that I was in back in two thousand

1626
01:42:14.079 --> 01:42:18.880
<v Speaker 5>and six. There's all kinds of ways, really simple ways

1627
01:42:18.920 --> 01:42:22.159
<v Speaker 5>on the Internet for people to get the basics. They

1628
01:42:22.199 --> 01:42:24.680
<v Speaker 5>just have to take the time to do so. I agree.

1629
01:42:25.159 --> 01:42:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're talking about Jergward Griffin's book Creature from Jekyl

1630
01:42:29.560 --> 01:42:31.039
<v Speaker 2>Island and some of these other things. I think we're

1631
01:42:31.039 --> 01:42:36.560
<v Speaker 2>about ready to have another resetting of the dollar as

1632
01:42:36.680 --> 01:42:40.079
<v Speaker 2>a you know, in the same way that Nixon took

1633
01:42:40.119 --> 01:42:42.039
<v Speaker 2>us off of the gold standard and put us on

1634
01:42:42.119 --> 01:42:44.600
<v Speaker 2>to the petro dollar and that type of thing. Central

1635
01:42:44.600 --> 01:42:46.640
<v Speaker 2>bank digital currency. And you know, when I think about

1636
01:42:46.680 --> 01:42:50.000
<v Speaker 2>the central bank digital currency and their ability to preemptively

1637
01:42:50.079 --> 01:42:53.000
<v Speaker 2>control everything that we spend and to be able to

1638
01:42:53.119 --> 01:42:57.520
<v Speaker 2>confiscate money just to flick of a switch from us,

1639
01:42:58.560 --> 01:43:01.119
<v Speaker 2>what happens to the irs go to a central bank

1640
01:43:01.159 --> 01:43:03.399
<v Speaker 2>digital currency. Are these people going to become like uber

1641
01:43:03.479 --> 01:43:08.119
<v Speaker 2>drivers when they go to fully automated taxicabs Johnny Cabs.

1642
01:43:08.720 --> 01:43:11.279
<v Speaker 5>Well, one thing you can bet on, at least in

1643
01:43:11.319 --> 01:43:16.000
<v Speaker 5>all my experience and research is that they're very forward

1644
01:43:16.119 --> 01:43:19.680
<v Speaker 5>thinking in the government. And so in fact, like in

1645
01:43:19.760 --> 01:43:21.600
<v Speaker 5>nineteen ninety eight when I was there, they had the

1646
01:43:21.640 --> 01:43:26.319
<v Speaker 5>IRS Restructuring and Reform Act, so the you know, the

1647
01:43:26.359 --> 01:43:31.560
<v Speaker 5>oxymoronic names of bills like the Inflation Reduction Act, the

1648
01:43:31.600 --> 01:43:35.560
<v Speaker 5>Restruction Reform Act, was not about restructuring and reforming the IRS.

1649
01:43:36.279 --> 01:43:39.760
<v Speaker 5>It was really about hiding their tracks from stuff they

1650
01:43:39.760 --> 01:43:42.399
<v Speaker 5>had done in the past. But they always put you know,

1651
01:43:42.640 --> 01:43:46.159
<v Speaker 5>the pearls around the pig's neck to make it look good.

1652
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<v Speaker 5>But I have a feeling that those eighty seven thousand

1653
01:43:48.479 --> 01:43:52.960
<v Speaker 5>agents in this uptick and IRS, it's about being there

1654
01:43:53.079 --> 01:43:57.479
<v Speaker 5>and being ready when the turmoil hits with the bad

1655
01:43:57.520 --> 01:44:01.439
<v Speaker 5>currency and knowing that people are going to maybe not

1656
01:44:01.479 --> 01:44:04.720
<v Speaker 5>pay their tax bills so that they can survive, and

1657
01:44:04.800 --> 01:44:07.319
<v Speaker 5>they need these agents who are going to be there

1658
01:44:07.399 --> 01:44:10.560
<v Speaker 5>ready to take your property if you don't cooperate, even

1659
01:44:10.600 --> 01:44:11.840
<v Speaker 5>if you don't have the money to pay.

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01:44:12.039 --> 01:44:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I agree, yeah, taking your property. And here's the here's

1661
01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:18.319
<v Speaker 2>where I put on my conspiracy theory tenofoil hat. I

1662
01:44:18.399 --> 01:44:20.800
<v Speaker 2>think that's what's going to happen, is this army of

1663
01:44:20.880 --> 01:44:25.039
<v Speaker 2>IRS agents are being prepared to try to take assets

1664
01:44:25.039 --> 01:44:27.359
<v Speaker 2>away from people who are going to be outside of

1665
01:44:27.399 --> 01:44:30.720
<v Speaker 2>the CBDC. That's going to be something that people are

1666
01:44:30.760 --> 01:44:34.960
<v Speaker 2>going to try to avoid, like the plague, even more

1667
01:44:35.000 --> 01:44:39.600
<v Speaker 2>so than any plague that they that they invent. I mean,

1668
01:44:39.640 --> 01:44:41.760
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't trying to avoid the plague myself because I

1669
01:44:41.760 --> 01:44:43.680
<v Speaker 2>didn't believe there was a plague when it was going through.

1670
01:44:43.680 --> 01:44:47.399
<v Speaker 2>But I think that when they push this CBDC through,

1671
01:44:47.720 --> 01:44:50.319
<v Speaker 2>they're going to have to have two different aspects of it.

1672
01:44:50.600 --> 01:44:53.079
<v Speaker 2>One of them is going to be Okay, here's the thing,

1673
01:44:53.119 --> 01:44:55.079
<v Speaker 2>and we want you to do this, and then we're

1674
01:44:55.079 --> 01:44:57.840
<v Speaker 2>going to incentivize it for a little while and try

1675
01:44:57.840 --> 01:45:00.000
<v Speaker 2>to get as many people using it as we'll do it.

1676
01:45:00.039 --> 01:45:02.720
<v Speaker 2>As we saw with the vaccines, right, they're going to say, well,

1677
01:45:02.720 --> 01:45:04.039
<v Speaker 2>this is great, you ought to have. It's going to

1678
01:45:04.039 --> 01:45:06.800
<v Speaker 2>save your life. Then the next step is we'll have

1679
01:45:06.840 --> 01:45:10.079
<v Speaker 2>a lottery here, and you know you have a chance

1680
01:45:10.159 --> 01:45:12.960
<v Speaker 2>of winning lots of money if you take the vaccine.

1681
01:45:13.279 --> 01:45:16.239
<v Speaker 2>I think the correlation to that with a CBDC will

1682
01:45:16.279 --> 01:45:19.119
<v Speaker 2>be that they will say well, we're going to make

1683
01:45:19.159 --> 01:45:20.840
<v Speaker 2>it so much easier for you. They might even throw

1684
01:45:20.840 --> 01:45:24.239
<v Speaker 2>in some cash bonuses if you use a CBDC at

1685
01:45:24.279 --> 01:45:26.079
<v Speaker 2>the beginning. But then you're going to get to the

1686
01:45:26.079 --> 01:45:28.600
<v Speaker 2>point where they're going to try to coerce you. And

1687
01:45:28.640 --> 01:45:30.640
<v Speaker 2>I think that's where this army of IRS agents are

1688
01:45:30.640 --> 01:45:32.720
<v Speaker 2>coming in. I think that's a forward thinking part about it.

1689
01:45:32.760 --> 01:45:34.319
<v Speaker 2>People are looking at this and saying, Wow, they're really

1690
01:45:34.359 --> 01:45:36.199
<v Speaker 2>going to make our life hell with this. I think

1691
01:45:36.319 --> 01:45:38.880
<v Speaker 2>the light making your life hell is going to be

1692
01:45:38.960 --> 01:45:43.840
<v Speaker 2>using this army of IRS agents to attack us if

1693
01:45:43.840 --> 01:45:49.640
<v Speaker 2>we try to have an economy that is outside of

1694
01:45:49.720 --> 01:45:52.399
<v Speaker 2>the CBDC. Do you agree? What do you think?

1695
01:45:52.960 --> 01:45:57.359
<v Speaker 5>I do very much, as I know you're on board

1696
01:45:57.359 --> 01:46:01.039
<v Speaker 5>with this. We're Americans. We don't give up. We might

1697
01:46:01.119 --> 01:46:06.199
<v Speaker 5>be collectively way too apathetic, and we've let the cancer

1698
01:46:06.279 --> 01:46:10.359
<v Speaker 5>grow way too way too far throughout the body, but

1699
01:46:10.439 --> 01:46:13.079
<v Speaker 5>we don't give up. And you know, people like yourself,

1700
01:46:13.159 --> 01:46:17.399
<v Speaker 5>all the whistleblowers relating to the COVID jabs and the

1701
01:46:17.399 --> 01:46:20.439
<v Speaker 5>gain of function research and all that stuff, those that's

1702
01:46:20.479 --> 01:46:22.840
<v Speaker 5>from you know, brave people who said I need to

1703
01:46:22.880 --> 01:46:25.560
<v Speaker 5>tell my neighbor, I need to tell my neighbor because

1704
01:46:25.560 --> 01:46:28.039
<v Speaker 5>I care about my neighbor, that this shot is a

1705
01:46:28.119 --> 01:46:30.640
<v Speaker 5>dust shot, or that this income tax is a scam,

1706
01:46:31.319 --> 01:46:33.520
<v Speaker 5>or that the I R S agents you know, you

1707
01:46:33.560 --> 01:46:36.199
<v Speaker 5>don't have to talk to them, you know, get out,

1708
01:46:36.279 --> 01:46:39.359
<v Speaker 5>spend a little more time on protecting yourself and your

1709
01:46:39.359 --> 01:46:42.840
<v Speaker 5>family because the resources are out there, including the David

1710
01:46:42.880 --> 01:46:45.760
<v Speaker 5>Knight Show, and you know, maybe a little less of

1711
01:46:45.840 --> 01:46:49.880
<v Speaker 5>the football games and things like that, and you might

1712
01:46:49.920 --> 01:46:52.000
<v Speaker 5>find that we can actually have affect a change for

1713
01:46:52.039 --> 01:46:52.439
<v Speaker 5>the better.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, Yeah, I think it's going to be it's

1715
01:46:56.079 --> 01:46:59.000
<v Speaker 2>going to have to be an education thing, and we're

1716
01:46:59.000 --> 01:47:01.600
<v Speaker 2>going to have to warn people about the possibility of

1717
01:47:01.600 --> 01:47:04.199
<v Speaker 2>how this is going to be used, tell them about

1718
01:47:04.239 --> 01:47:07.479
<v Speaker 2>how this is currently being abused, and it's going to

1719
01:47:07.479 --> 01:47:10.920
<v Speaker 2>be a life saving issue, just like this vaccination thing was.

1720
01:47:11.520 --> 01:47:13.239
<v Speaker 2>We go back and we look at this and it

1721
01:47:13.800 --> 01:47:15.720
<v Speaker 2>breaks my heart to see all the people who have

1722
01:47:15.760 --> 01:47:19.439
<v Speaker 2>been killed and injured with this and who continually who

1723
01:47:19.520 --> 01:47:23.720
<v Speaker 2>continue to be misguided with all this and continue to

1724
01:47:23.760 --> 01:47:26.479
<v Speaker 2>live in fear. And we have to push back against this.

1725
01:47:26.560 --> 01:47:28.039
<v Speaker 2>And I think a key thing is going to be

1726
01:47:28.720 --> 01:47:31.640
<v Speaker 2>educating people around us and our group of people that

1727
01:47:31.680 --> 01:47:35.039
<v Speaker 2>we have influence with as well as we can. And

1728
01:47:35.239 --> 01:47:38.439
<v Speaker 2>it's also going to be making sure that we have

1729
01:47:38.560 --> 01:47:43.000
<v Speaker 2>good people in local offices. I've been telling people, Joe

1730
01:47:43.000 --> 01:47:46.520
<v Speaker 2>that I think it's far more important who your sheriff

1731
01:47:46.600 --> 01:47:49.840
<v Speaker 2>is than who's sitting in the oval office, because that's

1732
01:47:49.880 --> 01:47:52.279
<v Speaker 2>really going to be more protection for you, or it's

1733
01:47:52.319 --> 01:47:53.920
<v Speaker 2>going to make things a lot worse for you if

1734
01:47:53.920 --> 01:47:58.239
<v Speaker 2>the wrong person gets in, depending on than you know

1735
01:47:58.279 --> 01:48:00.800
<v Speaker 2>who is in the oval office or who is even

1736
01:48:00.800 --> 01:48:02.720
<v Speaker 2>in the state capitol. It's going to be the local

1737
01:48:02.760 --> 01:48:05.640
<v Speaker 2>officials who will have your back or who will be

1738
01:48:05.640 --> 01:48:08.680
<v Speaker 2>beating you on the back at a higher rate. And

1739
01:48:08.720 --> 01:48:10.640
<v Speaker 2>I think that's the key thing. You look at eighty

1740
01:48:10.640 --> 01:48:14.359
<v Speaker 2>seven thousand new IRS agents and yet there's a lot

1741
01:48:14.439 --> 01:48:18.560
<v Speaker 2>more local law enforcement officials at the sheriff's level and

1742
01:48:18.600 --> 01:48:21.359
<v Speaker 2>things like that that could protect us against this if

1743
01:48:21.359 --> 01:48:23.840
<v Speaker 2>they understand that we're all in this together.

1744
01:48:25.359 --> 01:48:28.039
<v Speaker 5>Yes. In fact, maybe you've interviewed him once or more

1745
01:48:28.079 --> 01:48:32.640
<v Speaker 5>than once, Richard Mack, former sheriff in Arizona. He's got

1746
01:48:32.640 --> 01:48:37.520
<v Speaker 5>the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association or CSPOA, yes

1747
01:48:37.560 --> 01:48:40.960
<v Speaker 5>dot org. And that's exactly the kind of at least

1748
01:48:41.159 --> 01:48:44.359
<v Speaker 5>an organized effort any effort is good. Yeah, but that's

1749
01:48:44.359 --> 01:48:46.920
<v Speaker 5>an organized effort to reach out to each and every

1750
01:48:46.920 --> 01:48:49.880
<v Speaker 5>sheriff across the country, you know, excess of three thousand

1751
01:48:49.960 --> 01:48:54.560
<v Speaker 5>of them. Because one of the many things I admire

1752
01:48:54.600 --> 01:48:57.479
<v Speaker 5>about you is reminding people about, you know, acting locally

1753
01:48:58.479 --> 01:49:00.279
<v Speaker 5>because how much you can how much change you can

1754
01:49:00.279 --> 01:49:06.319
<v Speaker 5>really affect locally just with a sheriff's office. So yeah,

1755
01:49:06.439 --> 01:49:07.439
<v Speaker 5>people that check out.

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01:49:07.560 --> 01:49:08.840
<v Speaker 2>And that's a key thing. You know, we can be

1757
01:49:08.960 --> 01:49:11.359
<v Speaker 2>caught up so much of the personalities and the politics,

1758
01:49:11.560 --> 01:49:16.119
<v Speaker 2>and they want to direct us continually to Washington, where

1759
01:49:16.159 --> 01:49:19.039
<v Speaker 2>we have the least ability to affect anything because it

1760
01:49:19.119 --> 01:49:22.680
<v Speaker 2>is so distant from us, and not just geographically, but

1761
01:49:22.800 --> 01:49:26.359
<v Speaker 2>it is there's so many different levels, you know, away

1762
01:49:26.399 --> 01:49:29.159
<v Speaker 2>from us that it is very difficult to have any

1763
01:49:29.279 --> 01:49:32.479
<v Speaker 2>kind of a chance to change anything there. And the

1764
01:49:33.399 --> 01:49:36.039
<v Speaker 2>whole situation is very rigged. Even if we want to

1765
01:49:36.079 --> 01:49:38.680
<v Speaker 2>have an honest election, that's something that we're going to

1766
01:49:38.720 --> 01:49:40.760
<v Speaker 2>have to work for at the local level. They don't

1767
01:49:40.800 --> 01:49:44.279
<v Speaker 2>want us having relationships with each other. They want us

1768
01:49:44.399 --> 01:49:48.479
<v Speaker 2>connected to them in a centralized way through Zoom and

1769
01:49:48.560 --> 01:49:51.479
<v Speaker 2>other things like that, rather than having face to face

1770
01:49:51.520 --> 01:49:53.760
<v Speaker 2>meetings with other people and that's going to be the

1771
01:49:53.840 --> 01:49:56.800
<v Speaker 2>key thing. But I really do think that that is

1772
01:49:56.840 --> 01:49:59.840
<v Speaker 2>the way of the most dangerous ways that this army

1773
01:49:59.840 --> 01:50:01.920
<v Speaker 2>of IRS agents are going to be used, and that

1774
01:50:02.079 --> 01:50:07.680
<v Speaker 2>is to try to shut down any alternative economy that

1775
01:50:07.720 --> 01:50:10.239
<v Speaker 2>would exist. And I think that's going to go for cryptocurrency.

1776
01:50:10.520 --> 01:50:12.880
<v Speaker 2>I think it's going to go for people who try

1777
01:50:12.920 --> 01:50:15.760
<v Speaker 2>to do anything in terms of a barter and local community.

1778
01:50:15.960 --> 01:50:18.079
<v Speaker 2>I think that's what they've got this army of agents for.

1779
01:50:18.199 --> 01:50:22.560
<v Speaker 2>That's my just spidey sense about this, if you will.

1780
01:50:23.680 --> 01:50:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Can't approve it yet, but I think we watched this

1781
01:50:25.920 --> 01:50:27.800
<v Speaker 2>space and I think we're going to see some evid

1782
01:50:27.840 --> 01:50:30.119
<v Speaker 2>that's coming. Well, it's great talking to you, Joe. We're

1783
01:50:30.119 --> 01:50:33.520
<v Speaker 2>gonna have to get you on again. And Agent for

1784
01:50:33.520 --> 01:50:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Truth is where people can find you and the name

1785
01:50:35.800 --> 01:50:38.159
<v Speaker 2>of the book that they can find there at agentfotruth

1786
01:50:38.199 --> 01:50:39.000
<v Speaker 2>dot com.

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01:50:39.319 --> 01:50:42.840
<v Speaker 5>Investigating the Federal Income Tax the report to the American people.

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<v Speaker 2>Good good, Absolutely, you've been there, You've walked the walk,

1789
01:50:46.199 --> 01:50:49.840
<v Speaker 2>You've kept your integrity. I have the utmost admiration for you, Joe.

1790
01:50:49.880 --> 01:50:54.439
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate what you've done and it has its own reward.

1791
01:50:54.840 --> 01:50:57.039
<v Speaker 2>I know it's been tough for you, but it has

1792
01:50:57.079 --> 01:51:02.560
<v Speaker 2>its own reward, and you have capture integrity and that's

1793
01:51:02.600 --> 01:51:04.119
<v Speaker 2>the best any of us can do. Thank you for

1794
01:51:04.199 --> 01:51:05.359
<v Speaker 2>what you do. Appreciate that.

1795
01:51:05.720 --> 01:51:07.600
<v Speaker 5>I admire you too, David. Thank you very much for

1796
01:51:07.640 --> 01:51:08.199
<v Speaker 5>having me well.

1797
01:51:08.239 --> 01:51:24.399
<v Speaker 2>Thank you the common man. They created common Core and

1798
01:51:24.520 --> 01:51:27.920
<v Speaker 2>dumbed down our children. They created common past track and

1799
01:51:27.960 --> 01:51:31.920
<v Speaker 2>control us. They're Commons project to make sure the commoners

1800
01:51:32.119 --> 01:51:37.840
<v Speaker 2>own nothing and the communist future. They see the common

1801
01:51:37.880 --> 01:51:42.760
<v Speaker 2>man as simple, unsophisticated ordinary. But each of us has

1802
01:51:42.880 --> 01:51:48.520
<v Speaker 2>worth and dignity created in the image of God. That

1803
01:51:48.680 --> 01:51:51.079
<v Speaker 2>is what we have in common. That is what they

1804
01:51:51.119 --> 01:51:57.079
<v Speaker 2>want to take away. Their most powerful weapons are isolation, deception, intimidation.

1805
01:51:57.920 --> 01:52:01.039
<v Speaker 2>They desire to know everything about us, while they hide

1806
01:52:01.079 --> 01:52:05.239
<v Speaker 2>everything from us. It's time to turn that around and

1807
01:52:05.359 --> 01:52:09.520
<v Speaker 2>expose what they want to hide. Please share the information

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01:52:09.600 --> 01:52:13.279
<v Speaker 2>and links you'll find at the Davidnightshow dot com. Thank

1809
01:52:13.319 --> 01:52:21.479
<v Speaker 2>you for listening, Thank you for sharing. If you can't

1810
01:52:21.479 --> 01:52:25.720
<v Speaker 2>support us financially, please keep us in your prayers. Ddavidnightshow

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. We have now joining us Steve molloy. His

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01:52:55.039 --> 01:52:59.000
<v Speaker 2>site is junkscience dot com and Steve is one of

1813
01:52:59.039 --> 01:53:03.520
<v Speaker 2>the best researchers out there debunking the lies of climate

1814
01:53:03.680 --> 01:53:05.199
<v Speaker 2>and the rest of this stuff, and what is going

1815
01:53:05.199 --> 01:53:06.399
<v Speaker 2>on with the EPA. So I want to talk to

1816
01:53:06.439 --> 01:53:10.319
<v Speaker 2>him about several things today. It is rumored that maybe

1817
01:53:10.319 --> 01:53:14.399
<v Speaker 2>as early as today, but sometime emminently, the Democrats are

1818
01:53:14.399 --> 01:53:19.880
<v Speaker 2>pushing Biden to declare an emergency and to use his

1819
01:53:20.520 --> 01:53:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Now I guess the well established precedent of an executive

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01:53:25.319 --> 01:53:28.159
<v Speaker 2>order to do whatever he wants, and so we're talking

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01:53:28.159 --> 01:53:30.720
<v Speaker 2>to talk to Steve about that. Thank you for joining us,

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01:53:30.720 --> 01:53:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Steve hey K, thanks for having I want to start

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01:53:34.520 --> 01:53:37.840
<v Speaker 2>with something that you found that's on junk science dot com.

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01:53:37.880 --> 01:53:41.640
<v Speaker 2>I thought was really good. Conservative Climate Class episode number

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<v Speaker 2>one and you said, you're watching Fox News out Numbered

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01:53:46.359 --> 01:53:48.840
<v Speaker 2>and before we talk about this, and you said, look

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01:53:48.840 --> 01:53:53.239
<v Speaker 2>at this clip and what is wrong here that is

1828
01:53:53.279 --> 01:53:57.239
<v Speaker 2>happening on Fox News? Or you did an episode about

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01:53:57.279 --> 01:54:00.640
<v Speaker 2>the climate radicals from the UK going from town to

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01:54:00.680 --> 01:54:05.640
<v Speaker 2>town and letting the air out of SUVs, laying the

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01:54:05.640 --> 01:54:09.760
<v Speaker 2>air of the tires of the SUVs and putting, you know,

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01:54:10.119 --> 01:54:13.560
<v Speaker 2>a flyer on the windshield lecturing them about climate damage.

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01:54:13.560 --> 01:54:15.920
<v Speaker 2>But I'm going to play this clip and then let

1834
01:54:15.960 --> 01:54:20.000
<v Speaker 2>you comment about what happened on Fox News. So here's

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01:54:20.039 --> 01:54:24.960
<v Speaker 2>here's a clip that Steve mLOY found on the Outnumbered

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01:54:25.000 --> 01:54:25.960
<v Speaker 2>show on Fox News.

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<v Speaker 7>The eco warriors, known as the tire Extinguishers are moving

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01:54:29.640 --> 01:54:33.119
<v Speaker 7>across the US. In June, they targeted dozens of SUVs

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01:54:33.159 --> 01:54:36.600
<v Speaker 7>in New York City, sneakily letting the air out of tires,

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01:54:36.960 --> 01:54:39.840
<v Speaker 7>and their deflating tour is picking up speed. They're hitting

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01:54:39.840 --> 01:54:44.399
<v Speaker 7>other cities like San Francisco, Chicago, even Scranton, Pennsylvania. And

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01:54:44.439 --> 01:54:47.880
<v Speaker 7>the tire extinguishers also leave behind pamphlets on the windshields

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01:54:47.880 --> 01:54:50.239
<v Speaker 7>of the cars that the evandalized, reading, in part, attention

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01:54:50.800 --> 01:54:54.079
<v Speaker 7>your gas guzzler kills. We have deflated one or more

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01:54:54.119 --> 01:54:57.159
<v Speaker 7>of your tires. You'll be angry, but don't take it personally.

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01:54:57.399 --> 01:55:00.600
<v Speaker 7>It's not you, it's your car. This is machine that

1847
01:55:00.640 --> 01:55:03.399
<v Speaker 7>destroys life with terrifying efficiency.

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<v Speaker 3>So I appreciate everyone's concern about people getting to places

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01:55:07.239 --> 01:55:11.119
<v Speaker 3>in an emergency, but I don't want to distract from

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01:55:11.239 --> 01:55:13.439
<v Speaker 3>the actual point that they're trying to make. Here is

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01:55:13.640 --> 01:55:17.079
<v Speaker 3>peaceful protesting is that this would probably not fall under

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01:55:17.079 --> 01:55:19.840
<v Speaker 3>civil disobedience is my understanding. But I'm not a scholar.

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01:55:19.880 --> 01:55:22.560
<v Speaker 3>Exactly on where the line is. But I do want

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01:55:22.560 --> 01:55:26.279
<v Speaker 3>to point out that there has been protesting. There has

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01:55:26.319 --> 01:55:29.800
<v Speaker 3>been a tremendous amount of effort from youth, primarily worldwide,

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<v Speaker 3>who have called attention to the climate crisis, which often

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<v Speaker 3>gets denied sadly on this network. And to your point

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<v Speaker 3>about the can and the leather and that you're the

1859
01:55:37.439 --> 01:55:41.359
<v Speaker 3>faster runner, I'm sure that's fat. But the idea that

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<v Speaker 3>we have a different relationship with forark today.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you not.

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<v Speaker 3>To say that I'm not wearing leather on my shoes, but.

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01:55:47.840 --> 01:55:49.600
<v Speaker 5>I just want to bought it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's my property and you don't get to damage it,

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01:55:51.920 --> 01:55:54.920
<v Speaker 4>and nor would I damage your property ever in disagreement.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's really important that we make sure that

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<v Speaker 3>we keep this specific conversation on the climate crisis.

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<v Speaker 5>That were.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, So Steve malloy found that and he

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01:56:07.239 --> 01:56:08.520
<v Speaker 2>put that out and he said, see if you can

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<v Speaker 2>guess what the problem is. What is the problem there,

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01:56:10.279 --> 01:56:13.359
<v Speaker 2>Steve Teller, audience, Well, the problem.

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<v Speaker 4>Is is that you know, these four very conservative people

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01:56:16.279 --> 01:56:19.760
<v Speaker 4>on Fox News point out rightly how wrong it is

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<v Speaker 4>what you know these climate terrorists have been doing in

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01:56:23.520 --> 01:56:28.079
<v Speaker 4>England and have now brought to America and it's all indefensible.

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<v Speaker 4>But then, of course, you know, the leftist panel member

1878
01:56:31.760 --> 01:56:35.000
<v Speaker 4>that they have on the show just starts talking climate crisis,

1879
01:56:35.039 --> 01:56:37.960
<v Speaker 4>climate crisis, and she keeps saying climate crisis, and how

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<v Speaker 4>then she justifies what you know, these climate terrorists are

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01:56:42.239 --> 01:56:46.319
<v Speaker 4>doing by saying climate crisis, and so she tried to

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<v Speaker 4>outflank them that way. And what was disturbing to me

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<v Speaker 4>is that none of the four conservative panelists on that

1884
01:56:54.319 --> 01:56:59.840
<v Speaker 4>show you went after her for claiming climate crisis. They should,

1885
01:56:59.840 --> 01:57:03.800
<v Speaker 4>they're there's no climate crisis. What's the climate crisis? Describe it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's summertime, it's hot in some places, like it always is,

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<v Speaker 4>and so it just struck me. You know, climate is

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01:57:12.000 --> 01:57:15.960
<v Speaker 4>a lot like the Solen twenty twenty election. Conservatives, I'm

1889
01:57:16.000 --> 01:57:19.560
<v Speaker 4>not really allowed to challenge the basic you know, you're

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<v Speaker 4>not allowed to challenge the notion that Biden won, and

1891
01:57:23.159 --> 01:57:26.560
<v Speaker 4>you're not allowed to challenge the notion that, you know,

1892
01:57:26.840 --> 01:57:30.319
<v Speaker 4>greenhouse gas emissions are destroying the planet. And I just

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01:57:30.359 --> 01:57:33.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's either it's either out of ignorance or

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01:57:33.680 --> 01:57:36.199
<v Speaker 4>they've been intimidated or told not to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 4>But I just find it very disturbing that and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>watching the news today and it's the same. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>we have these heat waves going on in Europe and

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01:57:46.239 --> 01:57:48.520
<v Speaker 4>in America, and of course, yeah it's hot there, it's

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<v Speaker 4>hot here, but it's cool everywhere else on the planet.

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<v Speaker 4>Today's global warming is about zero point three six fahrenheit

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<v Speaker 4>warmer than the nineteen seven, nine, two thousand average. I mean,

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01:58:01.560 --> 01:58:04.600
<v Speaker 4>it's not even really measurable. Yeah, it's hot in some places,

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01:58:04.640 --> 01:58:05.880
<v Speaker 4>but it's cool in others.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to get at I want to get

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<v Speaker 2>You've got some great articles about Lake Mead and about

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01:58:11.560 --> 01:58:13.680
<v Speaker 2>the Great Salt Lake and all the different narratives that

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01:58:13.720 --> 01:58:15.159
<v Speaker 2>are being put out there. I don't want to get

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01:58:15.159 --> 01:58:16.880
<v Speaker 2>into that, but you know, before we get away from

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<v Speaker 2>this thing here, it's just amazing to me, as you

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<v Speaker 2>point out, they're not getting at the fundamental issue. They're

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01:58:22.880 --> 01:58:26.359
<v Speaker 2>looking at the sizzle and not at the stake because

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01:58:26.640 --> 01:58:29.479
<v Speaker 2>they're focused on things that are going to draw people in.

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<v Speaker 2>They're focused on things that are going to be sensational

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<v Speaker 2>for the viewers. And they're also, as you point it out,

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<v Speaker 2>the fundamental thing is not allowed to be challenged, just

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<v Speaker 2>as we've seen for the last two years. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>challenge the fundamental statements about the vaccine or what. You

1918
01:58:46.439 --> 01:58:49.439
<v Speaker 2>can't challenge the mask or them or the mandates. You

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01:58:49.479 --> 01:58:52.960
<v Speaker 2>can't challenge ay these that's all off limits. So you

1920
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<v Speaker 2>can kind of, you know, move around this and say

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01:58:55.039 --> 01:58:56.960
<v Speaker 2>things like, well, you know, you can't talk about whether

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01:58:57.000 --> 01:58:59.119
<v Speaker 2>the vaccine words or whether it's safe, but you can say,

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01:58:59.119 --> 01:59:02.319
<v Speaker 2>but if I've had COVID, I shouldn't be mandated to

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<v Speaker 2>take it. Should naturalmunity. That's a side issue. These guys

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01:59:06.159 --> 01:59:10.319
<v Speaker 2>are focused on whether or not this is as she

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<v Speaker 2>falsely and that person was Gina Arnold. I'd never seen

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<v Speaker 2>her before. What an annoying speaker she is, not just

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<v Speaker 2>what she says, but the way she says that the

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<v Speaker 2>vocal fry. Wow, yeah, that's you know, but you know

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<v Speaker 2>she is she's the one who's staying though, as annoying

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<v Speaker 2>as she is, she is the one who stays focused

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<v Speaker 2>on the issue.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, she's she knows that what the tire

1934
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<v Speaker 4>extinguishers are doing is wrong. She knows that, but she's

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<v Speaker 4>you know, none of us going to outflank them. She

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01:59:41.960 --> 01:59:45.239
<v Speaker 4>knows that. You know, on that panel either has to

1937
01:59:48.640 --> 01:59:51.560
<v Speaker 4>is allowed to or has to cut to challenge the

1938
01:59:51.600 --> 01:59:55.119
<v Speaker 4>basic notion that climate is a hoax. It's a hoax,

1939
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<v Speaker 4>it's not a crisis. You know that. On that show,

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<v Speaker 4>David Webb, who I love, who is a very conservative,

1941
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<v Speaker 4>who knows it climate is nonsense. You know, he starts

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<v Speaker 4>to sort of talk about ev waste and you know,

1943
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<v Speaker 4>solar panel waste or something. He's not talking about climate though.

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<v Speaker 4>The climate hysteria is a hoax. And if the you know,

1945
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<v Speaker 4>they should know that, like you know, they know lots

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<v Speaker 4>of other politics, really well, they should know that. If

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<v Speaker 4>they don't, shame on them for talking about this but

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<v Speaker 4>not knowing anything about the issue.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. Yeah, And they challenge her. She kind of

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<v Speaker 2>throws it out as I guess maybe a red herring.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, well, I think this is covered under civil disobedience.

1952
02:00:33.760 --> 02:00:37.079
<v Speaker 2>It's like, you're not civilly disobedient, disobeying the government. You're

1953
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<v Speaker 2>attacking somebody's property. And he made that point, but they

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<v Speaker 2>get that's a side issue. The issue, as you point out,

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<v Speaker 2>is the climate issue. You've got a great article also

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<v Speaker 2>at a junk science dot com. What is going to

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<v Speaker 2>happen now after this Supreme Court decision that says the

1958
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<v Speaker 2>EPA has usurped authority that it doesn't have. Your title

1959
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<v Speaker 2>is Scotus has crippled Biden's EPA. But there's only one

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<v Speaker 2>way to stop them for good. What is that way, Steve?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, so Supreme Court said that basically the

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<v Speaker 4>bidenministration cannot regulate climate unless Congress allows them to. And

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<v Speaker 4>in doing that, Congress destroyed the Obama Clean Power Plan,

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<v Speaker 4>which was regulating coal plants, issued in twenty fifteen, which

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<v Speaker 4>helped cause the destruction of the US coal industry, killed

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<v Speaker 4>fifty thousand coal high paying coal miner jobs, devastated communities,

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<v Speaker 4>et cetera. So now you know, where do those people

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<v Speaker 4>go back go to recoup their losses, you know, from

1969
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<v Speaker 4>this illegal government action. But so despite that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Biden is set today to you know, announce that he

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't care what the Supreme Court says, he doesn't care

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<v Speaker 4>what Congress says. He's going to go often do climate

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<v Speaker 4>by himself. And you know, I mean, this is crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>We have a totally row regime in.

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<v Speaker 2>Place, that's right, Yeah, you're right. Well, actually you quote

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<v Speaker 2>the sixty three majority of the said Congress did not

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<v Speaker 2>grant EPA. The Authority to devise emissions caps based on

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<v Speaker 2>the generation shifting approach that the agency took to the

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<v Speaker 2>Clean Power Plan. But as you also point out, the

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<v Speaker 2>Biden EPA doesn't really care. They'll just find another way

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<v Speaker 2>to shut these things down. You know, when you talk

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<v Speaker 2>about what happened with coal, and we look at how

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<v Speaker 2>this energy shock, the fuel shock is just going throughout

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<v Speaker 2>our entire economy, oil, gas, all the rest of these things,

1985
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<v Speaker 2>but also coal. I reminded Steve of back in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>seventy nine when we had the opeic shock to our

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<v Speaker 2>energy systems. They were saying, well, we're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>out of oil and natural gas by the mid nineteen eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>That was Time and Newsweek. I've shown that cover many

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<v Speaker 2>times on my show. But then inside of it they said,

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<v Speaker 2>but we've got six hundred and sixty six years of coal,

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<v Speaker 2>and so six sixty six right, so we got to

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<v Speaker 2>get rid of that was they didn't say that, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's what they focused on first. Because we had so

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02:03:04.239 --> 02:03:06.319
<v Speaker 2>much coal, they had to do that. This is a

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02:03:06.359 --> 02:03:10.520
<v Speaker 2>deliberate program of shutting down our lives. I think I've

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<v Speaker 2>said many times it's not about the emissions, it's about

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<v Speaker 2>the omissions. They want to omit all of this, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>from our life, don't they? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>And you know it's not at least you know, with

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<v Speaker 4>Jimmy Carter. You know, Jimmy Carter was just incompetent. But

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<v Speaker 4>I mean he did do one thing, you know, in

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<v Speaker 4>response to the nineteen seventies or crisis, Congress and that

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<v Speaker 4>pass and Jimmy Carter signed a law that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>shifted emphasis towards coal for producing electricity and away from

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<v Speaker 4>oil and gas, which was very expensive at the time.

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<v Speaker 4>And that lasted until the Obama administration, which completely obliterated.

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<v Speaker 4>Now here we have another energy crisis, and we still

2009
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<v Speaker 4>have all this coal, and we have even more oil

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<v Speaker 4>and gas. And is Joe Biden tapping any of it

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<v Speaker 4>to lower energy prices to control inflation. No, He's doing

2012
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<v Speaker 4>everything he can to make it worse. He you know,

2013
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<v Speaker 4>his if he declares a climate emergency or whatever executive

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<v Speaker 4>action he's going to try to do, he's just going

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<v Speaker 4>to make gas prices go higher. He's going to make

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<v Speaker 4>electricity prices go higher. He is non incentivized at all.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, his most important thing for him is his

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<v Speaker 4>climate agenda. The rest of us be damned.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah. Oh it's a deliberate deconstruction of our society.

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<v Speaker 2>I compare him to Nero all the time setting fires

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<v Speaker 2>to burn down our society and then pointing to other people,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't do it, he did it. You know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>an arsonist. He's an arsonist to our society. But you

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<v Speaker 2>you say, there's another case that is coming up before

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<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Court that is very important. Tell people about that, right, Okay, So.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, like Obama did, Obama was stopped legislatively on

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<v Speaker 4>climate and so what he did then was shift to

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<v Speaker 4>the EPA where he launched his war on coal and

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<v Speaker 4>he issued the Clean Power Play and other regulations which

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<v Speaker 4>were just devastating to the coal in history, unnecessarily devastating,

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<v Speaker 4>produced nothing. So now Joe Biden has been stopped legislatively

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<v Speaker 4>in Congress also, so he's going back to the EPA. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>what he's going to do is he's going to try

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<v Speaker 4>to control coal plant emissions through this back door of

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<v Speaker 4>air quality. And to do that, he's got to have

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<v Speaker 4>the scientific sort of peer review done by a led

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<v Speaker 4>a congressionally mandated review panels called the Clean Air Scientific

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<v Speaker 4>Advisory Committee. Now, when Biden came into office, he fired

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<v Speaker 4>the existing Clean Air Scientific Advisory Committee and then reconstituted it.

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<v Speaker 4>And the people he reconstituted with are EPA cronies, people

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<v Speaker 4>who have received tens of millions of dollars in EPA grants. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>the law requires that these people be independent and the

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<v Speaker 4>panel be you know, independent and balanced, But of course

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<v Speaker 4>it's not because it's it's just Scott. It's nothing but

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<v Speaker 4>these EPA cronies. So there is a there's a lawsuit

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<v Speaker 4>right now about this. It's called Young v. E Pa.

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<v Speaker 4>It was argued in court in federal court in d

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<v Speaker 4>C last December. We are waiting for a decision at

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<v Speaker 4>any moment now. Now, if that decision comes down, it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to completely stop the Biden e PA from this.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to regulate climber through the back door of

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<v Speaker 4>air quality. But we're just going to have to see

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<v Speaker 4>what happens. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>That's at a US district court for Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a left leaning court? Is that likely that

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to call him on that? I know that

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<v Speaker 2>you know it would look attle bit better if it

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<v Speaker 2>was going to go to the Supreme Court. Is that

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<v Speaker 2>a court that you think is going to lean lest however,

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<v Speaker 2>and support Biden.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's it's hard to tell. The judge we have

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<v Speaker 4>was appointed by Donald Trump, so that that be good.

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<v Speaker 4>We're just I have you know, federal court decisions, regardless

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<v Speaker 4>of who points at judge, are often hard to predict.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're just gonna have to see. I think I

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<v Speaker 4>think the cases open and shut. I mean, it's clear

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<v Speaker 4>that e PA has illegally stacked these panels. The plaintiff

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<v Speaker 4>is good, he has standing. The judge, although he turned

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<v Speaker 4>down the plant's request for a temporary restraining order against

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<v Speaker 4>e PA at the time, which was February, he told

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<v Speaker 4>e p A that you know, e p A, if

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<v Speaker 4>you continue down this road, you run the risk of

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<v Speaker 4>having are all over. So that's kind of a good sign.

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<v Speaker 4>But we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, Well, you know, as I've said many times,

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<v Speaker 2>when we put these things send it to a court,

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like a box of chocolate. You never

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<v Speaker 2>know what you're going to get, right, Supreme Court. You know,

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02:07:55.439 --> 02:07:57.119
<v Speaker 2>just when you think you got these guys figured out,

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<v Speaker 2>they go off in a completely different direction. But you

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<v Speaker 2>know it's now, I guess this this climate emergency, and

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<v Speaker 2>we can talk about how is not an emergency in

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<v Speaker 2>a minute, but let's talk about what the Democrats are

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get Biden to do. As they're screaming emergency, emergency,

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<v Speaker 2>what is it that they're hoping he's going to do

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<v Speaker 2>by executive fiat.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't even think they know. And that's why, well,

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<v Speaker 4>that's why today you know, he's going to be speaking

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<v Speaker 4>in Massachusetts about climate and they were hoping he would

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<v Speaker 4>announce an emergency but it doesn't look like he's going

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<v Speaker 4>to because he doesn't really know what he can do.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, he can, as we mentioned earlier, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he can try to regulate climate through the back door

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<v Speaker 4>at e PA. You know, he could he could possibly,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, do something to halt oil drilling, gas drilling

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<v Speaker 4>on federal lands offshore, on shore, But does he really

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<v Speaker 4>want to do that during crisis? I mean, that would

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<v Speaker 4>be pretty you know, Biden says I'm doing everything I

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<v Speaker 4>can to reduce gas prices and it's not really true,

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<v Speaker 4>but I mean that would be really openly hostile to

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<v Speaker 4>stop oil drilling. I don't know, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if you want to talk about this later, but

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the new York Times just released a poll

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<v Speaker 4>which I had to dig on their website to find it,

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<v Speaker 4>and I only accidentally came across this. They did a

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<v Speaker 4>poll with Siena College and reported that among voters only

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<v Speaker 4>one percent, only one percent prioritize climate And if you

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<v Speaker 4>look at the cross tabulations in the age group forty

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<v Speaker 4>five to sixty four, it was zero percent, and among

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<v Speaker 4>Latinos it was zero percent, and of course among Republicans

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<v Speaker 4>it was zero percent. Whereas you know, it's like thirty

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<v Speaker 4>five percent prioritize of the economy and inflation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, I've talked about this and the fact that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's the economy stupid for the longest time

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02:10:01.479 --> 02:10:03.680
<v Speaker 2>we've not you know, this is the old axiom that

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<v Speaker 2>goes back to the Clinton administration when he was running

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<v Speaker 2>for reelection. He had the Monica Lewinsky scandals and all

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of this stuff and being investigated, impeached, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and what was happening in Europe, But none of that

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<v Speaker 2>stuff mattered. It was the economy. But you know, Biden's

2121
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<v Speaker 2>got exactly the opposite problem, and everybody is upset about

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<v Speaker 2>the economy. I mean, it is virtually they broke that

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<v Speaker 2>down if it's the same pole that I saw. They

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<v Speaker 2>broke down the economy in about four or five different categories,

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<v Speaker 2>and you total up all the and those are the

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<v Speaker 2>top ones. And if you toted up all those different

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<v Speaker 2>facets of the economy that people are worried about, that's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much everything that everybody is concerned about right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's going to focus on the zero to one

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02:10:45.920 --> 02:10:51.359
<v Speaker 2>percent concern that is out there, so hopefully that will

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<v Speaker 2>not work out.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now, Well, yeah, you know, I think at one

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<v Speaker 4>percent that is you know, prioritizees climate. I think they

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<v Speaker 4>all work in the media and the White House.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 4>People live in a bubble that is unimaginable.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know when they're talking about this though, as

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<v Speaker 2>you point out, they don't even know what he's going

2139
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<v Speaker 2>to be able to do, but they want him to

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02:11:10.079 --> 02:11:13.720
<v Speaker 2>declare an emergency because this is now the way that

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02:11:13.760 --> 02:11:15.680
<v Speaker 2>we're all governed, you know, And I've talked about this

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<v Speaker 2>for the longest time. I got a clip from the

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<v Speaker 2>Russians are coming. The Russians are coming. Everybody get from

2144
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<v Speaker 2>the emergency, right, and so this is the type of thing.

2145
02:11:24.279 --> 02:11:27.720
<v Speaker 2>They just declare an emergency. Then that supposedly gives them

2146
02:11:27.840 --> 02:11:31.319
<v Speaker 2>the ability to just you know, act as a dictator.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's really what they're they're saying, we want

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<v Speaker 2>you to become a climate dictator. You know, Steve, I've

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02:11:36.159 --> 02:11:39.600
<v Speaker 2>talked about this many times. I call it the climate mcguffin,

2150
02:11:39.720 --> 02:11:43.119
<v Speaker 2>just like we had a COVID mcguffin. Hitchcock talked about

2151
02:11:43.159 --> 02:11:46.039
<v Speaker 2>how the mcguffin was this imaginary thing that motivated all

2152
02:11:46.079 --> 02:11:48.800
<v Speaker 2>the characters. Didn't really matter what it was as long

2153
02:11:48.840 --> 02:11:51.000
<v Speaker 2>as people didn't ask too many questions about it, you know,

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02:11:51.039 --> 02:11:53.560
<v Speaker 2>it just had to motivate the characters. And we've seen this.

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<v Speaker 2>You and I have been watching this climate stuff for

2156
02:11:56.039 --> 02:11:58.239
<v Speaker 2>a long time, and so we've seen how it's going

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02:11:58.279 --> 02:11:59.960
<v Speaker 2>to be global cooling, that it was going to be

2158
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<v Speaker 2>global warming, and then it's going to be just climate change.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was always the same thing that had to

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<v Speaker 2>be done. And then when COVID happened, lo and behold,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the same thing again. And now back to the

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02:12:11.920 --> 02:12:14.319
<v Speaker 2>to the COVID mcguffin. But they just they want the

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02:12:14.359 --> 02:12:18.760
<v Speaker 2>emergency power because they have a set of agenda things

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<v Speaker 2>that they want to do, and that one of them

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<v Speaker 2>is to basically destroy our economy, take away our energy,

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<v Speaker 2>and make us poor and depending on them.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the funny their agenda. And I don't really understand

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<v Speaker 4>where where this comes from, but there is a large

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<v Speaker 4>percentage of the population that has banded together in a

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<v Speaker 4>political force that just wants to be able to do

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02:12:39.680 --> 02:12:43.479
<v Speaker 4>what they want to do to anybody at any time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, the rule of law be damned.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right. And they don't realize how that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to bounce back on them. That's on pointed time. You

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<v Speaker 2>know the problem with your having your guy be the

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<v Speaker 2>dictator is your guy may not always be the dictator.

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<v Speaker 2>You set up a dictatorship that's going to come back

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<v Speaker 2>and bite you pretty badly. Our old friend Ed Markey

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<v Speaker 2>and for years and years ago, it's been almost ten

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<v Speaker 2>years the EPA fraud that was being done in Research

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02:13:10.720 --> 02:13:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Triangle Park, and of course Ed Markey was just a

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<v Speaker 2>congressman at the time. He's working with Obama's EPA director

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<v Speaker 2>Lisa Jackson, and they were telling everybody that it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>just about people getting sick, but more people are dying

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02:13:23.880 --> 02:13:26.439
<v Speaker 2>of fine particular matter than we're dying of cancer. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the end, they had scripted this back and forth.

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<v Speaker 2>So now Marky is a senator, he's been rewarded for

2188
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<v Speaker 2>all that, and he wants to Biden to band further

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<v Speaker 2>drilling on public lands as part of this climate emergency.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they want to shut down all energies, don't they.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, it's it's really incredible. You know, we are

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<v Speaker 4>seeing in Europe, you know, this whole global energy crisis,

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<v Speaker 4>the war in Ukraine itself. Europe is going to have

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<v Speaker 4>to ration energy this winter, and it's all because of

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<v Speaker 4>you know, green policy, what I call climate idiocy. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>the only you can't have a growing economy and a

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<v Speaker 4>rising stamlimity a living when you try to constrain energy.

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<v Speaker 4>But that is what these people are trying to do.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Germany has paid Germans paid the highest electricity

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<v Speaker 4>prices in the world. They have all these windmills, all

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<v Speaker 4>these solar panels, but in reality there's still a heat

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02:14:27.560 --> 02:14:31.000
<v Speaker 4>wave over their emissions are going up. They've accomplished nothing.

2203
02:14:31.119 --> 02:14:34.479
<v Speaker 4>Now they have to ration energy. This whole green thing

2204
02:14:34.560 --> 02:14:37.680
<v Speaker 4>has been a disaster. But the leftist just you know,

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02:14:37.840 --> 02:14:40.880
<v Speaker 4>they they can't give it up. And you know, we

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<v Speaker 4>have the same disease. In America, it's called the Democrat Party,

2207
02:14:44.640 --> 02:14:47.079
<v Speaker 4>and of course there are a lot of Republicans that

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02:14:47.159 --> 02:14:51.000
<v Speaker 4>fall for this nonsense too, and it's it's really disturbing,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm not quite sure what we're gonna, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>do about it, because it is quite a disease.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and the amazing thing is that this disease I

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<v Speaker 2>call it can't has really metastasized to all of our

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<v Speaker 2>vital organs.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It is not just the energy that is vital for

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02:15:06.880 --> 02:15:09.960
<v Speaker 2>these long supply chains that we have just in time

2217
02:15:10.000 --> 02:15:14.279
<v Speaker 2>delivery and everything, or the manufacture or you know, using

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02:15:14.319 --> 02:15:17.920
<v Speaker 2>it for you know, agricultural purposes and that type of thing.

2219
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<v Speaker 2>But now it is metastasized. And this whole energy war

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02:15:22.119 --> 02:15:26.720
<v Speaker 2>has become a part of this Ukraine war. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a headline here from artist Steve that says

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<v Speaker 2>a heat wave kills hundreds in Spain and Portugal. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Russians are pushing this out because they've

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02:15:35.239 --> 02:15:38.680
<v Speaker 2>got Europe in a tight spot as they are going

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02:15:38.680 --> 02:15:42.199
<v Speaker 2>to be withholding the gas from them, and so this

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02:15:42.359 --> 02:15:46.239
<v Speaker 2>is just putting more and more pressure on their enemies,

2227
02:15:47.039 --> 02:15:49.399
<v Speaker 2>you know about energy and that type of thing, and

2228
02:15:49.439 --> 02:15:51.239
<v Speaker 2>so we see how this is being played out. But

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<v Speaker 2>it is in so many different areas, are coming after

2230
02:15:53.479 --> 02:15:57.279
<v Speaker 2>our food, our transportation, everything in our economy, and it

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02:15:57.319 --> 02:16:00.159
<v Speaker 2>all comes back to the climate change and they're using

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02:16:00.159 --> 02:16:02.640
<v Speaker 2>that to attack our energy production in our food.

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<v Speaker 4>And you raised a very good point. You know, Putin

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02:16:06.840 --> 02:16:11.439
<v Speaker 4>has paid climate activists to stop Europe from fracking so

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02:16:11.479 --> 02:16:14.279
<v Speaker 4>that Europe would get hooked on Russian oil and gas,

2236
02:16:15.000 --> 02:16:19.960
<v Speaker 4>and Putin funds a lot of these climate groups to

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<v Speaker 4>just you know, keep pushing the hysteria. And more than Putin,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I mean it's China does the same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Congress was investigating whether communists China was paying us environmental

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<v Speaker 4>groups to you know wreck the economy. That's an old

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02:16:34.920 --> 02:16:39.559
<v Speaker 4>that's sort of Soviet concept wrecking the economy. But when

2242
02:16:39.559 --> 02:16:43.159
<v Speaker 4>Democrats took over, they killed the investigation. But so now

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<v Speaker 4>we have you know, this whole ESG movement. The ESG

2244
02:16:47.760 --> 02:16:52.360
<v Speaker 4>investors environmental, social and corporate governance like you know LED

2245
02:16:52.479 --> 02:16:55.799
<v Speaker 4>like Black Rock and State Street, all these huge banks,

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02:16:55.879 --> 02:16:58.559
<v Speaker 4>investment houses like Gold and Sachs. You know, they all

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02:16:58.600 --> 02:17:01.079
<v Speaker 4>profit in China, and I think they're allowed to profit

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<v Speaker 4>in China so that they pushed the climate idiocy on

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<v Speaker 4>the rest of us.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, I agree. I want to get into that

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<v Speaker 2>ESG stuff. But let's not leave the temperature things just yet,

2252
02:17:11.200 --> 02:17:14.799
<v Speaker 2>because this heat wave stuff we're seeing the panic of

2253
02:17:14.840 --> 02:17:17.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, people are dying, Hundreds are dying. They said

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<v Speaker 2>heat wave kills hundreds in Spain and Portugal. This is

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<v Speaker 2>our t telling everybody. You know, it was just back

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<v Speaker 2>in the end of March. You remember, Steve, when they

2257
02:17:24.559 --> 02:17:28.200
<v Speaker 2>were telling everybody, look that the temperature just jumped forty

2258
02:17:28.239 --> 02:17:32.319
<v Speaker 2>degrees centigrade and the Antarctic and the Arctic, you remember that,

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, wait a minute, how could that

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<v Speaker 2>possibly be because that's one hundred and four degrees fahrenheit, folks,

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<v Speaker 2>And if that were to happen at both poles, as

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02:17:41.959 --> 02:17:44.959
<v Speaker 2>they were telling everybody, how is it that we didn't

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02:17:45.000 --> 02:17:48.719
<v Speaker 2>see any jump here? You know? Well that was the

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<v Speaker 2>idiotic and you remember what happened with it. What that

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<v Speaker 2>was all based on, Right, it's just based on their projections.

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02:17:53.239 --> 02:17:56.639
<v Speaker 2>They didn't even measure anything. It only lasted for two days, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, anytime there's a heat wave, people die. The good

2268
02:17:59.399 --> 02:18:01.920
<v Speaker 4>news is that a lot less people are dying from

2269
02:18:01.959 --> 02:18:04.840
<v Speaker 4>heat waves today than used to because we have air

2270
02:18:04.879 --> 02:18:07.840
<v Speaker 4>conditioning and you know, we're just smarter about these things.

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02:18:07.879 --> 02:18:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh but they got a plan for that too, though.

2272
02:18:11.959 --> 02:18:13.760
<v Speaker 2>They don't run the air conditioning, so we can kill

2273
02:18:13.760 --> 02:18:15.319
<v Speaker 2>more people, get rid of the air condited, not just

2274
02:18:15.360 --> 02:18:17.280
<v Speaker 2>the food in the field, but the air conditioning too. Yeah,

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02:18:17.319 --> 02:18:17.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.

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02:18:18.000 --> 02:18:20.600
<v Speaker 4>We talked about this earlier. You know. It's yeah, it's

2277
02:18:20.719 --> 02:18:25.280
<v Speaker 4>hot in Europe, and it's hot maybe someplace else in Midwest,

2278
02:18:25.319 --> 02:18:28.360
<v Speaker 4>but it's cold other places, and it all averages out.

2279
02:18:28.440 --> 02:18:31.319
<v Speaker 4>And the con David, remember the con was originally called

2280
02:18:31.440 --> 02:18:35.079
<v Speaker 4>global warming. That's that's the con. And if you look,

2281
02:18:35.360 --> 02:18:38.760
<v Speaker 4>is the globe really warming? Well not today today, there's

2282
02:18:38.799 --> 02:18:42.520
<v Speaker 4>really no global warming because the cold is offsetting the

2283
02:18:42.559 --> 02:18:45.840
<v Speaker 4>heat of the places. And so their narrative has failed.

2284
02:18:46.399 --> 02:18:49.000
<v Speaker 4>And it's frustrated to me that, you know, the fact

2285
02:18:49.000 --> 02:18:50.959
<v Speaker 4>that that narrative has failed. You can't you can't get

2286
02:18:50.959 --> 02:18:54.239
<v Speaker 4>that on TV anyplace. You can't get that on Fox News.

2287
02:18:54.239 --> 02:18:56.639
<v Speaker 4>You can't get that on and nobody wants to talk

2288
02:18:56.680 --> 02:18:58.680
<v Speaker 4>about that, and I don't understand why.

2289
02:18:58.799 --> 02:18:59.760
<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's right.

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02:18:59.799 --> 02:19:02.719
<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, it's interesting thing about this whole thing. Yeah,

2291
02:19:02.840 --> 02:19:06.200
<v Speaker 4>there's a heat wave over there, but really the globe

2292
02:19:06.239 --> 02:19:09.479
<v Speaker 4>is not really warmer over the past forty years.

2293
02:19:08.760 --> 02:19:09.120
<v Speaker 2>That's right.

2294
02:19:09.159 --> 02:19:10.120
<v Speaker 4>So it's just weather.

2295
02:19:10.440 --> 02:19:13.479
<v Speaker 2>That's right. It's just weather, and there's no instinction between it.

2296
02:19:13.520 --> 02:19:16.799
<v Speaker 2>And we see that on people who are pushing back

2297
02:19:16.799 --> 02:19:18.559
<v Speaker 2>on it as well. You know, they will say the

2298
02:19:18.600 --> 02:19:21.520
<v Speaker 2>same thing when it gets really cold. Weather is not climate,

2299
02:19:21.600 --> 02:19:23.000
<v Speaker 2>and you have to have the data for a very

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02:19:23.000 --> 02:19:24.760
<v Speaker 2>long time. But we do have data now for a

2301
02:19:24.840 --> 02:19:27.399
<v Speaker 2>very long time, and we have shown that there is

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02:19:27.680 --> 02:19:32.079
<v Speaker 2>no climate change. You know, there's weather variations. And let's

2303
02:19:32.079 --> 02:19:33.719
<v Speaker 2>talk a little bit about the weather as well. You've

2304
02:19:33.719 --> 02:19:35.879
<v Speaker 2>got a couple of good articles, one of them about

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02:19:35.959 --> 02:19:37.799
<v Speaker 2>Lake Mead and then the other one about the Great

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02:19:37.879 --> 02:19:40.799
<v Speaker 2>Salt Lake. Let's talk about Lake Mead first. The article

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02:19:40.799 --> 02:19:45.200
<v Speaker 2>at junkscience dot com is is Lake Mead shrinking because

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02:19:45.239 --> 02:19:49.440
<v Speaker 2>of climate? Let's talk about that. Tell people, is it drinking? Well?

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02:19:50.239 --> 02:19:54.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so, well, lake neaed is shrinking? Is it climate? Well,

2310
02:19:54.479 --> 02:19:56.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, if you look back at Lake Meads history,

2311
02:19:57.959 --> 02:20:00.040
<v Speaker 4>you know, just maybe I think fifty years ago, the

2312
02:20:00.120 --> 02:20:03.239
<v Speaker 4>nineteen sixties, it was as low then as it is today.

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02:20:03.319 --> 02:20:07.600
<v Speaker 4>So is that climate, No, it's something else. It's it's

2314
02:20:07.639 --> 02:20:10.319
<v Speaker 4>probably you know, it may not be raining, but that

2315
02:20:10.399 --> 02:20:12.719
<v Speaker 4>once again is weather. You know, drought is a natural

2316
02:20:12.719 --> 02:20:15.319
<v Speaker 4>condition out there. It is the desert. But there's also

2317
02:20:15.479 --> 02:20:18.120
<v Speaker 4>water usage. You know, we have ramped up water users.

2318
02:20:18.159 --> 02:20:20.680
<v Speaker 4>The point is is that this has happened before. It

2319
02:20:20.680 --> 02:20:23.200
<v Speaker 4>could not have been climate because there was a lot

2320
02:20:23.319 --> 02:20:27.319
<v Speaker 4>less carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. So it's not that

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02:20:27.559 --> 02:20:32.440
<v Speaker 4>it's just you know, these things happen. It's probably mismanagement.

2322
02:20:33.600 --> 02:20:37.159
<v Speaker 4>It's got nothing to do with you know, CO two emissions,

2323
02:20:37.200 --> 02:20:39.120
<v Speaker 4>and the same thing is happening at the Great Salt Lake.

2324
02:20:39.159 --> 02:20:41.799
<v Speaker 4>I mean, if you look back in the history, Gray

2325
02:20:41.840 --> 02:20:44.159
<v Speaker 4>Salt Lake goes up, you know, its level goes up

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02:20:44.200 --> 02:20:47.600
<v Speaker 4>and down, and it has nothing to do with carbon dioxide.

2327
02:20:47.639 --> 02:20:50.200
<v Speaker 4>But of course in the media, you know, they only

2328
02:20:50.200 --> 02:20:53.120
<v Speaker 4>look at what's going on today, and so you know,

2329
02:20:53.200 --> 02:20:57.120
<v Speaker 4>if there's something bad happening today, regardless of what has

2330
02:20:57.159 --> 02:21:00.239
<v Speaker 4>ever happened in the past, it's happening bad today. It's

2331
02:21:00.239 --> 02:21:03.639
<v Speaker 4>got to be climate change. And it's just i mean,

2332
02:21:03.719 --> 02:21:06.079
<v Speaker 4>almost everything is blamed on climate change.

2333
02:21:06.079 --> 02:21:08.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah. As a matter of fact, you actually

2334
02:21:08.120 --> 02:21:10.000
<v Speaker 2>go back and you go to the data. You know,

2335
02:21:10.079 --> 02:21:12.360
<v Speaker 2>for several decades and you show the charts in your article.

2336
02:21:12.799 --> 02:21:15.479
<v Speaker 2>It had low points in nineteen fifty six and nineteen

2337
02:21:15.600 --> 02:21:19.319
<v Speaker 2>sixty five, and it still hasn't gotten back that. Even

2338
02:21:19.319 --> 02:21:21.040
<v Speaker 2>though it's very low now, it hasn't gotten back to

2339
02:21:21.079 --> 02:21:23.559
<v Speaker 2>those points. And then we talked about the Great Salt Lake.

2340
02:21:24.520 --> 02:21:26.399
<v Speaker 2>You point out this is coming from the New York

2341
02:21:26.440 --> 02:21:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Times by as you call him. I think it's true,

2342
02:21:29.159 --> 02:21:33.600
<v Speaker 2>imbecile economist, Paul Krugman. This is an economist, right, Maybe

2343
02:21:34.040 --> 02:21:35.760
<v Speaker 2>maybe he would go back and look at the data

2344
02:21:35.840 --> 02:21:38.319
<v Speaker 2>to know what he's talking about. Is this something? Oh, look,

2345
02:21:38.319 --> 02:21:41.000
<v Speaker 2>it's low. It must be. I can use this for

2346
02:21:41.120 --> 02:21:43.120
<v Speaker 2>my narrative. And that's exactly what they get.

2347
02:21:43.280 --> 02:21:45.920
<v Speaker 4>And you know what's incredible, David, is that none of

2348
02:21:45.959 --> 02:21:48.600
<v Speaker 4>this is rocket science. I mean I don't spend half

2349
02:21:48.680 --> 02:21:51.239
<v Speaker 4>my day looking for this data. I just do a

2350
02:21:51.319 --> 02:21:54.760
<v Speaker 4>Google search and in seconds, in seconds, I come up

2351
02:21:54.799 --> 02:21:57.280
<v Speaker 4>with this. They could do the same thing, but of

2352
02:21:57.280 --> 02:21:58.840
<v Speaker 4>course they don't want to.

2353
02:21:59.280 --> 02:22:01.360
<v Speaker 2>That's right. No, No, they don't want to, and they

2354
02:22:01.360 --> 02:22:05.280
<v Speaker 2>want to they want to hide the actual data. And

2355
02:22:05.319 --> 02:22:07.319
<v Speaker 2>of course I think you were involved in that, just

2356
02:22:07.319 --> 02:22:11.239
<v Speaker 2>like I was trying to get that information about Michael Mann,

2357
02:22:11.239 --> 02:22:13.799
<v Speaker 2>who came up of a hockey stick thing that was

2358
02:22:13.879 --> 02:22:18.200
<v Speaker 2>used by al Gore viciously fought and eventually one in

2359
02:22:18.200 --> 02:22:21.120
<v Speaker 2>court to be able to hide the data, even after

2360
02:22:21.159 --> 02:22:24.079
<v Speaker 2>we had emails between him and other people saying, hey,

2361
02:22:24.079 --> 02:22:27.200
<v Speaker 2>our models aren't working. How do we fix this? How

2362
02:22:27.200 --> 02:22:30.639
<v Speaker 2>do we massage the data? How do we hide the data?

2363
02:22:30.680 --> 02:22:32.719
<v Speaker 2>How do we hide the decline? And we said, all right,

2364
02:22:32.719 --> 02:22:35.600
<v Speaker 2>you've published your results and you were paid at a

2365
02:22:35.600 --> 02:22:38.719
<v Speaker 2>public institution. This has been used to craft public policy.

2366
02:22:38.760 --> 02:22:42.799
<v Speaker 2>Can we see your data? No, you can't see the data. Well,

2367
02:22:42.840 --> 02:22:44.280
<v Speaker 2>I think we know, you know, I think we know

2368
02:22:44.319 --> 02:22:46.799
<v Speaker 2>what's going on with these guys. And that's exactly what

2369
02:22:46.840 --> 02:22:49.559
<v Speaker 2>happened with all this COVID mcguffin. You know, they just

2370
02:22:49.639 --> 02:22:52.520
<v Speaker 2>keep rolling the same mo everywhere there.

2371
02:22:52.639 --> 02:22:56.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and once again, you know, it's really Republicans that

2372
02:22:56.799 --> 02:22:59.360
<v Speaker 4>are letting us down. I mean, we elect these people,

2373
02:23:00.079 --> 02:23:02.079
<v Speaker 4>none of this. You know, Rand Paul is trying to

2374
02:23:02.120 --> 02:23:05.200
<v Speaker 4>fight back, but most these other people they're just sort

2375
02:23:05.200 --> 02:23:08.239
<v Speaker 4>of silent and let it. You know, they don't really

2376
02:23:08.280 --> 02:23:12.200
<v Speaker 4>do anything. And the other side is really aggressive. Yeah,

2377
02:23:12.799 --> 02:23:15.440
<v Speaker 4>even if they're wrong, that's what they become more aggressive.

2378
02:23:15.479 --> 02:23:19.280
<v Speaker 4>Look at Fauci, what a sick s ob that guy

2379
02:23:19.479 --> 02:23:22.799
<v Speaker 4>is why is he still in the government at his age.

2380
02:23:22.840 --> 02:23:27.520
<v Speaker 4>He's never been right about anything. He's a malignant dwarf. Yeah,

2381
02:23:27.559 --> 02:23:30.879
<v Speaker 4>and he is making our lives miserable. And why is

2382
02:23:30.920 --> 02:23:33.360
<v Speaker 4>he still there? What was Trump thinking?

2383
02:23:33.680 --> 02:23:37.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, even you know, I walked the plank. Yeah,

2384
02:23:37.200 --> 02:23:40.479
<v Speaker 2>he even had people yelling firefacci firefaction goes well for me,

2385
02:23:40.520 --> 02:23:42.120
<v Speaker 2>we'll see what I can do. Yet And he didn't

2386
02:23:42.120 --> 02:23:45.079
<v Speaker 2>do anything. I mean after the election, he did nothing.

2387
02:23:45.079 --> 02:23:48.280
<v Speaker 2>He had sixty days he did nothing. You you talked

2388
02:23:48.280 --> 02:23:51.639
<v Speaker 2>a little bit about what is happening in Texas. Now

2389
02:23:51.680 --> 02:23:55.399
<v Speaker 2>they've got telling people, you know, before they do rolling

2390
02:23:56.319 --> 02:23:59.760
<v Speaker 2>brown outs or blackouts, or telling industrial customers to shut

2391
02:23:59.760 --> 02:24:01.399
<v Speaker 2>it down so they don't have to take away air

2392
02:24:01.440 --> 02:24:06.159
<v Speaker 2>conditioning from voters two months before the election. So I've

2393
02:24:06.440 --> 02:24:09.360
<v Speaker 2>experienced this when I was there and they had the

2394
02:24:10.239 --> 02:24:14.479
<v Speaker 2>windmills that froze. And now the windmills are not producing

2395
02:24:14.680 --> 02:24:17.879
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of it anyway, what a surprise, isn't it.

2396
02:24:19.079 --> 02:24:21.719
<v Speaker 4>Well? Yeah, and you know, even in a red state

2397
02:24:21.920 --> 02:24:27.120
<v Speaker 4>like Texas, the Republican politicians have been purchased by the

2398
02:24:27.159 --> 02:24:32.639
<v Speaker 4>wind industry and allowed to They have destroyed the electricity

2399
02:24:32.680 --> 02:24:35.719
<v Speaker 4>grid in Texas, so that you know, you mentioned that

2400
02:24:36.440 --> 02:24:41.360
<v Speaker 4>Valentine's Day twenty twenty one disaster where you know, two

2401
02:24:41.399 --> 02:24:45.399
<v Speaker 4>hundred people died because the windmills froze and blackouts ensued. Yeah,

2402
02:24:45.479 --> 02:24:50.159
<v Speaker 4>and now you know, we're having the increasing likelihood of

2403
02:24:50.200 --> 02:24:54.319
<v Speaker 4>blackouts in Texas and rationally because the wind industry has

2404
02:24:54.360 --> 02:24:59.799
<v Speaker 4>been allowed to purchase politicians. Right, and it's you know,

2405
02:25:01.040 --> 02:25:03.879
<v Speaker 4>what do you do? Do you attack Governor Greg Abbott

2406
02:25:03.920 --> 02:25:06.239
<v Speaker 4>and all the other Republican governors so that they get

2407
02:25:06.280 --> 02:25:08.360
<v Speaker 4>replaced by Democrats who are gonna be worse. I mean,

2408
02:25:08.680 --> 02:25:11.719
<v Speaker 4>we are in a real fix. Yeah, We've got to

2409
02:25:11.840 --> 02:25:13.920
<v Speaker 4>We've got to fix us ourselves.

2410
02:25:13.559 --> 02:25:16.959
<v Speaker 2>That's right. Yeah. Yeah. You know, the entire time I

2411
02:25:17.000 --> 02:25:20.200
<v Speaker 2>was there for about a little over nine years, I

2412
02:25:20.200 --> 02:25:22.920
<v Speaker 2>watched them decommissioning power plant after power plant, and this

2413
02:25:22.959 --> 02:25:26.719
<v Speaker 2>is what's happening across our country. And there was a

2414
02:25:26.760 --> 02:25:30.120
<v Speaker 2>tremendous amount I forget how many billions of dollars or

2415
02:25:30.159 --> 02:25:33.040
<v Speaker 2>tens of billions of dollars that the State of Texas

2416
02:25:33.120 --> 02:25:35.799
<v Speaker 2>gave to these people who were already billionaires the same

2417
02:25:35.799 --> 02:25:38.399
<v Speaker 2>type of thing they do, you know, for putting in

2418
02:25:39.719 --> 02:25:42.280
<v Speaker 2>football stadiums or baseball stadiums or something like that, gave

2419
02:25:42.319 --> 02:25:45.159
<v Speaker 2>them a tremendous amount of money to build this infrastructure

2420
02:25:45.280 --> 02:25:50.360
<v Speaker 2>for these windmills, large windmill fields there, and yet they're

2421
02:25:50.360 --> 02:25:54.079
<v Speaker 2>not able to deliver. And so it was all about

2422
02:25:54.360 --> 02:25:57.799
<v Speaker 2>graft and corruption. And they bought these officials and they

2423
02:25:57.840 --> 02:25:59.440
<v Speaker 2>put this in there. And these people, and a lot of

2424
02:25:59.440 --> 02:26:01.959
<v Speaker 2>them had had been people who had been in the

2425
02:26:02.000 --> 02:26:04.520
<v Speaker 2>oil and natural gas industry because and they wanted to

2426
02:26:04.520 --> 02:26:06.719
<v Speaker 2>get in on the ground floor of something that was

2427
02:26:06.799 --> 02:26:11.360
<v Speaker 2>completely new and different and force people through the government

2428
02:26:11.479 --> 02:26:13.520
<v Speaker 2>to make that change and to get the government to

2429
02:26:13.520 --> 02:26:16.440
<v Speaker 2>subsidize it. I mean, it's just corruption writ large, right.

2430
02:26:16.680 --> 02:26:19.840
<v Speaker 4>No, And none of this stuff works. We know it

2431
02:26:19.920 --> 02:26:22.840
<v Speaker 4>doesn't work, and it's not going to work anytime soon.

2432
02:26:23.399 --> 02:26:25.760
<v Speaker 4>And of course, you know the dirty little secret behind

2433
02:26:25.799 --> 02:26:27.399
<v Speaker 4>all this. Not only does it not work and it

2434
02:26:27.440 --> 02:26:30.520
<v Speaker 4>costs more money, it all comes from China. It doesn't

2435
02:26:30.559 --> 02:26:33.040
<v Speaker 4>come from here, that's right. And you know, if we

2436
02:26:33.040 --> 02:26:36.079
<v Speaker 4>were to, if it were even possible to get hooked

2437
02:26:36.120 --> 02:26:38.440
<v Speaker 4>up on this stuff, we would be at the mercy

2438
02:26:38.520 --> 02:26:42.200
<v Speaker 4>of communists China. Because it's the it's where wind comes,

2439
02:26:42.639 --> 02:26:46.000
<v Speaker 4>the wind, the rare air earths that make the windmills work,

2440
02:26:46.319 --> 02:26:48.600
<v Speaker 4>the solar same with the solar panels. You know, slave

2441
02:26:48.680 --> 02:26:53.799
<v Speaker 4>labor is China. The EV batteries of all the rare

2442
02:26:53.840 --> 02:26:56.959
<v Speaker 4>earths and cobalt processing happens in China. I mean, this

2443
02:26:57.120 --> 02:27:00.040
<v Speaker 4>is just a disaster. Yet we're letting it happen. And

2444
02:27:00.120 --> 02:27:02.719
<v Speaker 4>you know, the investors in these windmills and the utilities,

2445
02:27:02.760 --> 02:27:05.120
<v Speaker 4>they make money from putting this stuff up. They make

2446
02:27:05.200 --> 02:27:09.239
<v Speaker 4>money now, and so they get their bone, the you know, managements,

2447
02:27:09.280 --> 02:27:12.239
<v Speaker 4>get their bonuses and everything now and the rest of

2448
02:27:12.319 --> 02:27:14.920
<v Speaker 4>us are left with, you know, the craft that doesn't work.

2449
02:27:15.079 --> 02:27:17.840
<v Speaker 2>That's right. Yeah, And this goes back just like Earth

2450
02:27:17.920 --> 02:27:20.399
<v Speaker 2>Day in the environmental movement, this goes back to you know,

2451
02:27:20.559 --> 02:27:26.280
<v Speaker 2>the seventies and Nixon administration where they put China in

2452
02:27:26.319 --> 02:27:28.879
<v Speaker 2>the catbird seat. They made the decision that they were

2453
02:27:28.959 --> 02:27:31.600
<v Speaker 2>going to let these people be the center of the

2454
02:27:31.639 --> 02:27:35.760
<v Speaker 2>global economy. They had slave labor, they had other things

2455
02:27:35.760 --> 02:27:37.879
<v Speaker 2>that they could use, and they've really been used I

2456
02:27:37.920 --> 02:27:40.079
<v Speaker 2>think Steve as a beta test site for all this

2457
02:27:40.159 --> 02:27:43.280
<v Speaker 2>stuff you talked about. You had a tweet you said,

2458
02:27:43.319 --> 02:27:47.239
<v Speaker 2>a creepy, elitist, power crazed World Economic Forum call treatment

2459
02:27:48.120 --> 02:27:51.399
<v Speaker 2>call three even higher gas prices to hasten the green

2460
02:27:51.520 --> 02:27:56.040
<v Speaker 2>energy transition, and yeah, that's absolutely true. You know, at

2461
02:27:56.120 --> 02:27:58.239
<v Speaker 2>least you can see what the World Economic Forum is

2462
02:27:58.239 --> 02:27:59.639
<v Speaker 2>putting up out there. I looked at that and it's

2463
02:27:59.639 --> 02:28:01.920
<v Speaker 2>like like, oh, that's right. I can't view anything they've

2464
02:28:01.920 --> 02:28:05.440
<v Speaker 2>got because they blocked me. I didn't realize they blocked me.

2465
02:28:05.479 --> 02:28:07.280
<v Speaker 2>I hadn't even trolled them by saying stuff like that,

2466
02:28:07.520 --> 02:28:09.680
<v Speaker 2>we would be careful, they're going to block you. I'd

2467
02:28:09.719 --> 02:28:13.120
<v Speaker 2>never directly attacked them and call them creepy, elitist, power

2468
02:28:13.120 --> 02:28:16.360
<v Speaker 2>crazed people, which they are, but I never addressed them

2469
02:28:16.399 --> 02:28:22.719
<v Speaker 2>directly those adjectives. But they preemptively blocked me. Kind of strange,

2470
02:28:22.799 --> 02:28:25.520
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, that is really where I think. You know,

2471
02:28:25.559 --> 02:28:28.159
<v Speaker 2>these these politicians that you pointed out, with this two

2472
02:28:28.159 --> 02:28:31.440
<v Speaker 2>party system, they only have to be slightly better than

2473
02:28:31.479 --> 02:28:35.280
<v Speaker 2>the other guy, and then they can essentially ford this

2474
02:28:35.360 --> 02:28:40.319
<v Speaker 2>agenda that is anti American and anti human. And this

2475
02:28:40.399 --> 02:28:42.399
<v Speaker 2>is what is happening in country after country, you know,

2476
02:28:42.399 --> 02:28:45.360
<v Speaker 2>whether you're looking at New Zealand or Canada, and it's

2477
02:28:45.399 --> 02:28:47.920
<v Speaker 2>what happened during the COVID thing. But that's Sport's happening.

2478
02:28:48.319 --> 02:28:50.959
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you mentioned something very important there. This is an

2479
02:28:51.000 --> 02:28:54.879
<v Speaker 4>anti human agenda. Yeah, you all that. In the mid

2480
02:28:54.959 --> 02:28:58.440
<v Speaker 4>nineteen sixties, Paul Arlick wrote The Population Bomb and is

2481
02:28:58.559 --> 02:29:02.479
<v Speaker 4>still a full professor Stanford and is a member of

2482
02:29:02.680 --> 02:29:06.840
<v Speaker 4>prestigious National Academy. Size. Guy's never been right about anything anyway.

2483
02:29:07.760 --> 02:29:10.440
<v Speaker 4>He said that the carrying capacity of the planet is

2484
02:29:10.479 --> 02:29:14.479
<v Speaker 4>about two billion people. Well, later this year we are

2485
02:29:14.559 --> 02:29:17.959
<v Speaker 4>forecast to hit eight billion people. And I think that

2486
02:29:18.200 --> 02:29:21.319
<v Speaker 4>these people, the World Economic Forum and the people that

2487
02:29:21.440 --> 02:29:25.440
<v Speaker 4>get involved with them, and Democrats and leftists, they really

2488
02:29:25.479 --> 02:29:28.559
<v Speaker 4>think that six billion people need to step off the planet,

2489
02:29:28.639 --> 02:29:31.159
<v Speaker 4>and they're doing the best they can to get us there.

2490
02:29:31.280 --> 02:29:34.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, oh absolutely. Yeah. He looked at Georgia guidestones

2491
02:29:34.120 --> 02:29:36.159
<v Speaker 2>that somebody just fortunately took out for us. I don't

2492
02:29:36.159 --> 02:29:37.680
<v Speaker 2>know what was up about that, but you know, they

2493
02:29:37.680 --> 02:29:39.559
<v Speaker 2>had even just a half a billion, you know, they

2494
02:29:39.559 --> 02:29:43.239
<v Speaker 2>were even morem Althusian than Paul Erlick. I didn't know

2495
02:29:43.280 --> 02:29:46.799
<v Speaker 2>he was still around, let alone teaching. I thought, was

2496
02:29:46.879 --> 02:29:50.040
<v Speaker 2>that guy, what is he like ninety years old or something?

2497
02:29:50.399 --> 02:29:53.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't hear very often. He blocked me.

2498
02:29:53.159 --> 02:29:57.520
<v Speaker 2>So there you go. Yeah, we're being shut down. We

2499
02:29:58.079 --> 02:30:01.360
<v Speaker 2>can no longer allowed to see evil or to hear evil,

2500
02:30:01.399 --> 02:30:03.840
<v Speaker 2>because we'll speak about evil. So the World Economic Forum

2501
02:30:03.879 --> 02:30:07.360
<v Speaker 2>blocks me, he blocks you. That's that's funny. Yeah, Germany

2502
02:30:07.680 --> 02:30:12.879
<v Speaker 2>is planning warm up spaces for this winter. They're going

2503
02:30:12.959 --> 02:30:15.760
<v Speaker 2>to be wishing for global warming pretty soon, aren't they.

2504
02:30:15.799 --> 02:30:18.959
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and we're seeing and we've talked about this

2505
02:30:19.520 --> 02:30:22.360
<v Speaker 2>many times in the past, how it was already long

2506
02:30:22.399 --> 02:30:25.319
<v Speaker 2>ago because the high prices in Germany as they were

2507
02:30:25.639 --> 02:30:30.040
<v Speaker 2>rolling into this expensive pensioners and people who didn't have

2508
02:30:30.079 --> 02:30:36.159
<v Speaker 2>the money to cut back on the term and and

2509
02:30:36.200 --> 02:30:38.680
<v Speaker 2>that's really going to be coming up big time this fall,

2510
02:30:38.760 --> 02:30:39.040
<v Speaker 2>isn't it.

2511
02:30:39.559 --> 02:30:42.479
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So it's really weird. You know there Germany, which

2512
02:30:42.559 --> 02:30:45.959
<v Speaker 4>used to be a technological leader. You know, they've fallen

2513
02:30:45.959 --> 02:30:49.040
<v Speaker 4>through this green stuff which doesn't work. They're shutting down

2514
02:30:49.040 --> 02:30:52.959
<v Speaker 4>their nuclear plants. Maybe they're slowing some of that down

2515
02:30:53.000 --> 02:30:56.920
<v Speaker 4>now they're going to have to reopen coal plants, you know,

2516
02:30:57.079 --> 02:31:01.840
<v Speaker 4>against their agenda. But just today there's more news bootin'

2517
02:31:01.959 --> 02:31:05.280
<v Speaker 4>is you know, squeezing the moro on gas and you

2518
02:31:05.319 --> 02:31:08.000
<v Speaker 4>know they're thinking about, yeah, we're going to need to

2519
02:31:08.040 --> 02:31:11.239
<v Speaker 4>have communal eating places and how else can we crash

2520
02:31:11.280 --> 02:31:14.280
<v Speaker 4>and electricity. I mean, the whole thing is just a disaster,

2521
02:31:14.399 --> 02:31:17.680
<v Speaker 4>and you kind of wonder, like, why aren't people up

2522
02:31:17.719 --> 02:31:22.920
<v Speaker 4>in arms about this. Instead, they elect this new green government,

2523
02:31:22.959 --> 02:31:25.479
<v Speaker 4>you know, they get rid of Merkele, who is bad enough.

2524
02:31:25.559 --> 02:31:35.920
<v Speaker 4>Now they have been forced to reopen like twenty seven

2525
02:31:36.000 --> 02:31:38.600
<v Speaker 4>coal plants. Yeah, but they don't want to and they

2526
02:31:38.600 --> 02:31:40.000
<v Speaker 4>can't wait to shut them down again.

2527
02:31:40.319 --> 02:31:42.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know. Yeah. As a matter of fact, Soro said,

2528
02:31:42.840 --> 02:31:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Davos was just railing about how Merkele had thrown them

2529
02:31:47.959 --> 02:31:50.239
<v Speaker 2>under the bus because she hadn't done enough to do

2530
02:31:50.319 --> 02:31:54.639
<v Speaker 2>renewables and left them vulnerable to these fossil fuels and everything,

2531
02:31:54.680 --> 02:31:56.239
<v Speaker 2>which is really the only thing that's going to keep

2532
02:31:56.239 --> 02:31:59.360
<v Speaker 2>them alive come winter. It's pretty amazing. And they're now

2533
02:31:59.360 --> 02:32:02.200
<v Speaker 2>talking and all the different places in Europe about well,

2534
02:32:02.200 --> 02:32:04.120
<v Speaker 2>should we let the peasants go out and gather wood

2535
02:32:04.159 --> 02:32:07.280
<v Speaker 2>so they can heat themselves. You know, they're seriously you know,

2536
02:32:07.639 --> 02:32:10.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, they're talking about gathering wood for fuel, but

2537
02:32:10.319 --> 02:32:12.479
<v Speaker 2>they're not fully on board that because you know, we

2538
02:32:12.479 --> 02:32:15.000
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't let them be able to go through uh and

2539
02:32:15.040 --> 02:32:17.639
<v Speaker 2>collect uh, you know, deadwood out of the forest to

2540
02:32:17.639 --> 02:32:21.559
<v Speaker 2>heat themselves. It's amazing it's turning medieval, isn't it.

2541
02:32:21.559 --> 02:32:24.079
<v Speaker 4>It is totally medieval. And you know, now we have

2542
02:32:24.200 --> 02:32:27.959
<v Speaker 4>this sort of looming global food crisis because you know,

2543
02:32:28.040 --> 02:32:30.520
<v Speaker 4>Russia can't export its wheat and will let Ukraine to

2544
02:32:30.559 --> 02:32:37.399
<v Speaker 4>explore its and you know in America we burn grain

2545
02:32:37.600 --> 02:32:40.000
<v Speaker 4>for it, we burn food for energy because we have

2546
02:32:40.040 --> 02:32:44.959
<v Speaker 4>all these athmol exactly, you would like who is in

2547
02:32:45.120 --> 02:32:48.079
<v Speaker 4>charge and who votes for these people? And what schools

2548
02:32:48.120 --> 02:32:50.639
<v Speaker 4>did they go to? I don't I don't know where

2549
02:32:50.639 --> 02:32:53.479
<v Speaker 4>everywhere all these people came from, because they've all lost

2550
02:32:53.520 --> 02:32:54.319
<v Speaker 4>their minds.

2551
02:32:54.399 --> 02:32:58.479
<v Speaker 2>Well, they're they're graduates of the World Economic Forum. Klaus

2552
02:32:58.559 --> 02:32:59.399
<v Speaker 2>Robin's got.

2553
02:32:59.319 --> 02:33:03.000
<v Speaker 4>Is those people. But David, how did they acquire all

2554
02:33:03.040 --> 02:33:05.719
<v Speaker 4>this power and all this money? Because they are obviously

2555
02:33:05.920 --> 02:33:10.479
<v Speaker 4>too stupid to do anything. Yeah, how did it happen?

2556
02:33:10.879 --> 02:33:13.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, they're smart enough to get into these institutions.

2557
02:33:13.040 --> 02:33:15.520
<v Speaker 2>I've had people ask me, they say, how did we

2558
02:33:15.559 --> 02:33:18.040
<v Speaker 2>wind up with all the universities and schools being controlled

2559
02:33:18.040 --> 02:33:20.719
<v Speaker 2>by these radical leftist liberals and things like? Well, because

2560
02:33:20.760 --> 02:33:23.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, they they love it, They love those institutions

2561
02:33:23.680 --> 02:33:24.959
<v Speaker 2>and they want to be part of them. These are

2562
02:33:24.959 --> 02:33:27.600
<v Speaker 2>the kinds of people when we were in high school.

2563
02:33:27.639 --> 02:33:29.600
<v Speaker 2>They wanted to be the leaders of student government. You know,

2564
02:33:30.000 --> 02:33:31.680
<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to have anything to do with it,

2565
02:33:31.760 --> 02:33:33.159
<v Speaker 2>but you know it works out for them.

2566
02:33:33.440 --> 02:33:36.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'll go to step further. I mean, they have

2567
02:33:36.399 --> 02:33:40.079
<v Speaker 4>purposely captured these institutions, which is not they just gravitate there.

2568
02:33:40.120 --> 02:33:41.879
<v Speaker 4>They have purposely captured them.

2569
02:33:42.000 --> 02:33:42.479
<v Speaker 2>I agree.

2570
02:33:43.040 --> 02:33:45.799
<v Speaker 4>You know, there was a great radio series starting Dana

2571
02:33:45.840 --> 02:33:48.920
<v Speaker 4>Andrews from the nineteen fifties. I was a communist for

2572
02:33:48.959 --> 02:33:52.959
<v Speaker 4>the FBI and I used to and the episodes are

2573
02:33:53.040 --> 02:33:57.799
<v Speaker 4>great because they explain how since the nineteen twenties, and

2574
02:33:57.840 --> 02:34:04.840
<v Speaker 4>they do it through you know, recreations of story by

2575
02:34:04.920 --> 02:34:08.840
<v Speaker 4>FBI ages of how communists have purposely tried to capture

2576
02:34:08.879 --> 02:34:13.600
<v Speaker 4>these institution shoots, yes, and control them for their for

2577
02:34:13.719 --> 02:34:14.520
<v Speaker 4>these purposes.

2578
02:34:14.600 --> 02:34:17.079
<v Speaker 2>That's right. Yeah, the Frankfort Institute, they made it a

2579
02:34:17.159 --> 02:34:20.200
<v Speaker 2>deliberate goal to capture Hollywood and things like that, and

2580
02:34:20.959 --> 02:34:23.479
<v Speaker 2>they they've been very successful at that. It's been a

2581
02:34:23.479 --> 02:34:26.280
<v Speaker 2>long running plan. Yeah, you talk about and we were

2582
02:34:26.280 --> 02:34:30.520
<v Speaker 2>mentioning air conditioning earlier. Uh, and you got an article

2583
02:34:30.760 --> 02:34:34.399
<v Speaker 2>junk science dot com ozone hole depletion hysteria debunked anew

2584
02:34:34.479 --> 02:34:36.879
<v Speaker 2>tell us about that because they're just rolling out they're

2585
02:34:36.879 --> 02:34:40.440
<v Speaker 2>about to rev the version of refrigerate that we got

2586
02:34:40.520 --> 02:34:42.719
<v Speaker 2>yet again. You know, they did it once before and

2587
02:34:42.719 --> 02:34:44.639
<v Speaker 2>said sorry, you can't have that. Now we got something

2588
02:34:44.639 --> 02:34:47.079
<v Speaker 2>that's going to be safe for the ozone layer and

2589
02:34:47.159 --> 02:34:49.479
<v Speaker 2>now as their patent, I guess is about to expire.

2590
02:34:49.559 --> 02:34:51.159
<v Speaker 2>That was Eric Peters take on that.

2591
02:34:51.520 --> 02:34:51.680
<v Speaker 5>Yes.

2592
02:34:51.760 --> 02:34:54.520
<v Speaker 4>And Republicans yeah, like John Kennedy and Bill Cassie and

2593
02:34:54.559 --> 02:34:57.719
<v Speaker 4>Louisiana behind this, Yes, so o's other whole steria born

2594
02:34:57.760 --> 02:35:00.920
<v Speaker 4>in the nineteen seventies. The guys that discovered the chemistry

2595
02:35:00.959 --> 02:35:05.399
<v Speaker 4>behind ozone hole hysteria won the Nobel Prize. And what

2596
02:35:05.440 --> 02:35:08.680
<v Speaker 4>they discovered was there, you know, was some thinning over

2597
02:35:08.719 --> 02:35:11.319
<v Speaker 4>the Antarctic and the ozone layer which protects us from

2598
02:35:11.360 --> 02:35:13.879
<v Speaker 4>the UV layer from the UV radiation from the sun.

2599
02:35:14.319 --> 02:35:16.719
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't a hole, it was just some thinning. No

2600
02:35:16.760 --> 02:35:22.159
<v Speaker 4>one really understood it. These guys figured out that chloroflora

2601
02:35:22.200 --> 02:35:25.639
<v Speaker 4>carbons are refrigerants. When they escape into the atmosphere, they

2602
02:35:26.639 --> 02:35:29.520
<v Speaker 4>destroy the ozo and for that they won the Nobel Prize.

2603
02:35:29.520 --> 02:35:33.799
<v Speaker 4>We got the Montreal Protocol, which was pushed by environmentalists

2604
02:35:33.799 --> 02:35:37.600
<v Speaker 4>of course, as well as DuPont, who was losing its

2605
02:35:38.159 --> 02:35:42.319
<v Speaker 4>patents on CFC's And of course since then we've been

2606
02:35:42.360 --> 02:35:45.280
<v Speaker 4>on this all. You know, we keep replacing refrigerants and

2607
02:35:45.280 --> 02:35:48.440
<v Speaker 4>they keep getting needlessly more expensive. Well, a couple of

2608
02:35:48.479 --> 02:35:52.680
<v Speaker 4>weeks ago, they you know, I never believed ozone hysteria.

2609
02:35:53.520 --> 02:35:55.440
<v Speaker 4>It's true, the chemistry.

2610
02:35:55.440 --> 02:35:57.200
<v Speaker 2>Neither did I let me ask you this too. I

2611
02:35:57.280 --> 02:36:00.360
<v Speaker 2>mean I was always under the impression that had never

2612
02:36:00.399 --> 02:36:03.639
<v Speaker 2>looked before. I mean, they never looked before. Did they

2613
02:36:03.680 --> 02:36:08.120
<v Speaker 2>ever looking at the ozone layer over the poles? Was

2614
02:36:08.159 --> 02:36:09.799
<v Speaker 2>that it was the first time they looked at as

2615
02:36:09.799 --> 02:36:12.799
<v Speaker 2>I know, there's a thinning there, and so that.

2616
02:36:13.079 --> 02:36:16.479
<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, so and so two weeks ago there's a

2617
02:36:16.479 --> 02:36:18.799
<v Speaker 4>study that comes out that says, you know what, there's

2618
02:36:18.879 --> 02:36:23.120
<v Speaker 4>been an ozone hole over the tropics since the nineteen eighties.

2619
02:36:23.280 --> 02:36:26.040
<v Speaker 4>They didn't even notice it because there was nothing happening,

2620
02:36:26.159 --> 02:36:29.239
<v Speaker 4>because there's nothing there. It's just, you know, we have

2621
02:36:29.360 --> 02:36:34.040
<v Speaker 4>an excess of protective ozone stratospirit. If it gets thin

2622
02:36:34.159 --> 02:36:37.000
<v Speaker 4>here and there, it doesn't really matter. And so the

2623
02:36:37.040 --> 02:36:40.479
<v Speaker 4>whole thing has been a hoax. Now, I remember more

2624
02:36:40.479 --> 02:36:43.639
<v Speaker 4>than about twenty years ago, when al Gore was developing

2625
02:36:43.680 --> 02:36:45.760
<v Speaker 4>his slide show. I was in a meeting where I

2626
02:36:45.799 --> 02:36:48.959
<v Speaker 4>got to see the slide show and he made this remark.

2627
02:36:49.600 --> 02:36:51.719
<v Speaker 4>In his mark was, you know the purpose of the

2628
02:36:51.760 --> 02:36:55.920
<v Speaker 4>Montreal Protocol was not to protect the ozone layer. It

2629
02:36:56.000 --> 02:36:58.959
<v Speaker 4>was to show that we could get a global climate tree.

2630
02:36:59.280 --> 02:37:03.319
<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, it's about global government. And that is where

2631
02:37:03.360 --> 02:37:06.399
<v Speaker 4>we are now because out of the Montreal Protocol comes

2632
02:37:06.479 --> 02:37:11.399
<v Speaker 4>the you know, the the United Nations Framework on Climate Change,

2633
02:37:11.440 --> 02:37:15.120
<v Speaker 4>which you know George Bush the Elder signed in nineteen

2634
02:37:15.200 --> 02:37:19.079
<v Speaker 4>ninety two in Rio, and out of that was the

2635
02:37:19.120 --> 02:37:22.440
<v Speaker 4>Kyoto Protocol in the Paris Climate Court. So all this stuff,

2636
02:37:22.479 --> 02:37:24.559
<v Speaker 4>you know, the fruit of the poisonous tree, the poisonous

2637
02:37:24.600 --> 02:37:28.559
<v Speaker 4>tree is the Montreal Protocol totally bogus. There's there's no

2638
02:37:28.600 --> 02:37:31.319
<v Speaker 4>problem with the ozone. There never has been. We paid

2639
02:37:31.319 --> 02:37:35.479
<v Speaker 4>needlessly more for refrigerants. We have Senator Kennedy and Bill

2640
02:37:35.559 --> 02:37:39.079
<v Speaker 4>Cassidy and other Republicans going along with Democrats, you know,

2641
02:37:39.200 --> 02:37:41.479
<v Speaker 4>signing a bill at the end of the Trump administration

2642
02:37:41.719 --> 02:37:45.760
<v Speaker 4>to force ep to make EPA, force us out of

2643
02:37:46.319 --> 02:37:49.239
<v Speaker 4>the refrigerants we're using right now. Now, there's an amendment

2644
02:37:50.479 --> 02:37:53.840
<v Speaker 4>to the Montreal Protocol that's been in the Senate right

2645
02:37:53.879 --> 02:37:57.399
<v Speaker 4>now that Senator Kennedy's probably for as well as Bill

2646
02:37:57.479 --> 02:38:00.840
<v Speaker 4>Cassidy because the refrigerant industry and the environmental start pushing

2647
02:38:00.840 --> 02:38:03.680
<v Speaker 4>It's called the Kigali Amendment, and it's going to force

2648
02:38:03.760 --> 02:38:06.920
<v Speaker 4>us out of our current refrigerast into something into technology

2649
02:38:06.920 --> 02:38:09.760
<v Speaker 4>that does not even exist yet. Wow, the whole thing

2650
02:38:09.879 --> 02:38:14.360
<v Speaker 4>is a nightmare. You know, people think Senator Kennedy's funny

2651
02:38:14.360 --> 02:38:16.840
<v Speaker 4>when he goes on TVs as all sorts of folksy things.

2652
02:38:17.120 --> 02:38:19.239
<v Speaker 4>I'd like to see someone ask satat to Kennedy about this.

2653
02:38:19.520 --> 02:38:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, the Kagaliy Amendment. It sounds like a Gellian

2654
02:38:25.319 --> 02:38:28.200
<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. That's the way they pushed us. You know,

2655
02:38:28.239 --> 02:38:30.520
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about this, and they had to have see

2656
02:38:30.520 --> 02:38:33.319
<v Speaker 2>if they could get a world agreement. And I've talked

2657
02:38:33.319 --> 02:38:36.120
<v Speaker 2>to we were talking before about how the plan for

2658
02:38:36.120 --> 02:38:41.799
<v Speaker 2>the longest time has been depopulation and going back to

2659
02:38:42.000 --> 02:38:45.559
<v Speaker 2>when the Pope put out his climate in cyclical. Guy

2660
02:38:45.600 --> 02:38:48.120
<v Speaker 2>who was very instrumental in that, who was the Vatican

2661
02:38:48.200 --> 02:38:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Science Director that was writing that was John schellen Hooper,

2662
02:38:52.319 --> 02:38:55.840
<v Speaker 2>and he had been at the right hand of Prince

2663
02:38:55.920 --> 02:38:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Charleston had been conspiring to do this World League thing

2664
02:38:58.680 --> 02:39:01.959
<v Speaker 2>and a Planetary Council and an Earth constitution. I mean,

2665
02:39:02.040 --> 02:39:04.760
<v Speaker 2>everything about these guys is to centralize all power and

2666
02:39:04.799 --> 02:39:08.520
<v Speaker 2>wealth into their hands globally and to depopulate everybody else.

2667
02:39:08.559 --> 02:39:10.239
<v Speaker 2>And it just keeps you know, you have all these

2668
02:39:10.239 --> 02:39:12.840
<v Speaker 2>different organizations, but they all have the same goal and

2669
02:39:12.879 --> 02:39:15.840
<v Speaker 2>it's that and you have the same people that keep

2670
02:39:16.239 --> 02:39:19.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, showing up in all of these these organizations

2671
02:39:19.920 --> 02:39:24.440
<v Speaker 2>for global control and world depopulation. It truly is amazing.

2672
02:39:25.000 --> 02:39:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk, I said, we get to the ESG stuff.

2673
02:39:27.079 --> 02:39:29.479
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk a little bit about the ESG because now

2674
02:39:29.520 --> 02:39:32.840
<v Speaker 2>these scorers are really the new corporate minch mark, aren't they.

2675
02:39:32.840 --> 02:39:34.879
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're not really worried about Moody's or any

2676
02:39:34.879 --> 02:39:38.079
<v Speaker 2>financial ratings. Now we're worried about the ESG score that

2677
02:39:38.120 --> 02:39:38.879
<v Speaker 2>everybody's got.

2678
02:39:39.799 --> 02:39:42.440
<v Speaker 4>Well. Yeah, the whole notion is that, you know, we

2679
02:39:44.479 --> 02:39:49.840
<v Speaker 4>the left can't get more stringent environmental and social standards

2680
02:39:49.879 --> 02:39:53.920
<v Speaker 4>through Congress, so they're going to They've created these you know,

2681
02:39:54.239 --> 02:40:00.879
<v Speaker 4>fake international bodies that are imposing these standards through left

2682
02:40:00.920 --> 02:40:04.600
<v Speaker 4>wing investors on corporations. It's a you know, it's it's

2683
02:40:04.920 --> 02:40:11.559
<v Speaker 4>basically a communist plot. To circumvent democracy, to capture corporations

2684
02:40:11.239 --> 02:40:14.360
<v Speaker 4>for their political purposes. And it's working. And you know,

2685
02:40:14.440 --> 02:40:17.840
<v Speaker 4>this is led by Wall Street firms, Goldman Sachs, especially

2686
02:40:17.879 --> 02:40:21.159
<v Speaker 4>Black Rocks, State Street banks, people that mentioned that manage

2687
02:40:21.159 --> 02:40:25.399
<v Speaker 4>our pensions and manage pension funds for states. They use

2688
02:40:25.559 --> 02:40:30.239
<v Speaker 4>all our money to amass political power for themselves. Now,

2689
02:40:30.639 --> 02:40:33.120
<v Speaker 4>you know, there is a pushback. States like Texas have

2690
02:40:33.200 --> 02:40:37.000
<v Speaker 4>pushed back against Black Rock Tennessee from other states, and

2691
02:40:37.040 --> 02:40:40.000
<v Speaker 4>there's a growing West Virginia. There's a growing movement among

2692
02:40:40.079 --> 02:40:42.799
<v Speaker 4>red states to push back against these guys. But of

2693
02:40:42.799 --> 02:40:45.000
<v Speaker 4>course the bankers are pushing back on their own and

2694
02:40:45.040 --> 02:40:48.440
<v Speaker 4>it's a real struggle. And you have also the Biden

2695
02:40:49.159 --> 02:40:52.079
<v Speaker 4>Securities and Exchange Commission. You know, it's it's got all

2696
02:40:52.120 --> 02:40:55.200
<v Speaker 4>these you know, it's starting to get itself involved in ESG,

2697
02:40:55.399 --> 02:41:00.360
<v Speaker 4>pushing ESG rules. They've also got a proposed rule to

2698
02:41:00.440 --> 02:41:05.600
<v Speaker 4>require companies disclose their greenhouse gas emissions and what they're

2699
02:41:05.639 --> 02:41:08.840
<v Speaker 4>doing on climate. And the whole purpose of this is

2700
02:41:08.879 --> 02:41:12.559
<v Speaker 4>really to capture the corporation. And we talked about how

2701
02:41:12.600 --> 02:41:16.920
<v Speaker 4>the left has captured all virtually every institution in America. Yeah,

2702
02:41:17.040 --> 02:41:21.079
<v Speaker 4>and we've seen now with woke corporations. They have made

2703
02:41:21.120 --> 02:41:25.120
<v Speaker 4>substantial progress in capturing those corporations. And you know, as

2704
02:41:25.479 --> 02:41:30.120
<v Speaker 4>someone who does shareholder activism myself, you know, I can

2705
02:41:30.159 --> 02:41:34.040
<v Speaker 4>see they certainly have made tremendous progress against corporations and

2706
02:41:34.079 --> 02:41:37.879
<v Speaker 4>so ESG is just another tool to you know, help

2707
02:41:37.879 --> 02:41:38.600
<v Speaker 4>bring that about.

2708
02:41:38.799 --> 02:41:41.840
<v Speaker 2>That's right. You've gone to the Exxon meeting for example,

2709
02:41:42.200 --> 02:41:44.600
<v Speaker 2>and others and standing up and say what are you doing?

2710
02:41:44.920 --> 02:41:48.200
<v Speaker 2>Because they're not they're not focused on their product, they're

2711
02:41:48.239 --> 02:41:51.639
<v Speaker 2>not focused on their customer. They've got one customer, and

2712
02:41:51.719 --> 02:41:53.760
<v Speaker 2>that is the you know, the people who are doing

2713
02:41:53.799 --> 02:41:56.280
<v Speaker 2>the ESG ratings and the government it is to do.

2714
02:41:56.319 --> 02:41:58.000
<v Speaker 2>They're bidding and that's one of the reasons why you

2715
02:41:58.000 --> 02:42:00.959
<v Speaker 2>see so much contempt for their customers from the big corporations.

2716
02:42:01.079 --> 02:42:03.840
<v Speaker 2>But it's really being driven by black Rock, as you

2717
02:42:03.879 --> 02:42:08.319
<v Speaker 2>pointed out Vanguard, I mean, the big three holding companies.

2718
02:42:08.360 --> 02:42:10.559
<v Speaker 2>They've got about thirty trillion dollars worth of stock and

2719
02:42:10.600 --> 02:42:13.760
<v Speaker 2>they're using that as leverage against these corporations. And now,

2720
02:42:13.799 --> 02:42:15.280
<v Speaker 2>like I said before, you know, they used to have

2721
02:42:15.559 --> 02:42:19.120
<v Speaker 2>Moody's and other financial rating scores and things like that,

2722
02:42:19.280 --> 02:42:22.600
<v Speaker 2>but now they're all concerned about their ESG scores. There's

2723
02:42:22.639 --> 02:42:26.319
<v Speaker 2>a new MIT Sloan study says, hey, we're seeing widespread

2724
02:42:26.360 --> 02:42:30.639
<v Speaker 2>and repeated retroactive changes to ESG scores. So they're looking

2725
02:42:30.680 --> 02:42:34.280
<v Speaker 2>at this like somebody would raise a red flag about

2726
02:42:34.319 --> 02:42:36.959
<v Speaker 2>someone manipulating the Moody ratings or something like, well, what's

2727
02:42:37.000 --> 02:42:38.200
<v Speaker 2>going on here? You know, this is the way we

2728
02:42:38.239 --> 02:42:41.760
<v Speaker 2>evaluate corporations anymore. It's not by their profits, it's not

2729
02:42:41.879 --> 02:42:44.639
<v Speaker 2>by products. It's now by are they going to push

2730
02:42:44.639 --> 02:42:47.799
<v Speaker 2>the environmental agenda? Are they going to push this diversity,

2731
02:42:47.840 --> 02:42:51.399
<v Speaker 2>inclusivity and all that stuff. Equity?

2732
02:42:51.479 --> 02:42:55.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and so these scores are being used by Wall

2733
02:42:55.559 --> 02:43:00.719
<v Speaker 4>Street to deny finance to company. And you know the

2734
02:43:00.760 --> 02:43:04.200
<v Speaker 4>next step here is to you know, take ESG scores

2735
02:43:04.239 --> 02:43:08.000
<v Speaker 4>and kind of turn them into social credit scores for individuals. Yes,

2736
02:43:08.280 --> 02:43:11.959
<v Speaker 4>so you know, if you use too much energy or

2737
02:43:11.959 --> 02:43:15.040
<v Speaker 4>do the wrong things and own guns and stuff like that,

2738
02:43:15.399 --> 02:43:17.520
<v Speaker 4>you won't be able to get financing for your house

2739
02:43:17.639 --> 02:43:21.520
<v Speaker 4>or whatever you need. It's all, you know, very big

2740
02:43:21.559 --> 02:43:24.159
<v Speaker 4>brother stuff coming down the road. And once again our

2741
02:43:24.200 --> 02:43:26.040
<v Speaker 4>Republicans doing anything.

2742
02:43:26.000 --> 02:43:27.159
<v Speaker 2>Nothing, not much.

2743
02:43:27.399 --> 02:43:30.639
<v Speaker 4>We've got some action going on in the States, but

2744
02:43:30.920 --> 02:43:34.479
<v Speaker 4>in Congress, republics even really understand this and no.

2745
02:43:35.239 --> 02:43:38.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, you know they're rolling out the financial tools

2746
02:43:38.680 --> 02:43:41.000
<v Speaker 2>to control this stuff with the Central Bank digital currencies,

2747
02:43:41.000 --> 02:43:42.600
<v Speaker 2>and they've already talked about the fact, well we're going

2748
02:43:42.680 --> 02:43:45.799
<v Speaker 2>to follow your carbon footprint and you know what, what

2749
02:43:45.840 --> 02:43:47.799
<v Speaker 2>are you eating? You know, I'm sorry, you've already bought

2750
02:43:47.879 --> 02:43:49.799
<v Speaker 2>too much meat this month, so we're not going to

2751
02:43:49.879 --> 02:43:52.200
<v Speaker 2>let you buy this because we now control all the

2752
02:43:52.280 --> 02:43:55.440
<v Speaker 2>money centrally. And then when it comes to the social

2753
02:43:55.520 --> 02:43:57.360
<v Speaker 2>side of this, well, I'm sorry, I don't like what

2754
02:43:57.399 --> 02:44:00.559
<v Speaker 2>you had to say on social media, and you know,

2755
02:44:00.600 --> 02:44:03.200
<v Speaker 2>the World Economic Forum has blocked you or whatever, so

2756
02:44:03.319 --> 02:44:04.920
<v Speaker 2>now you're not going to be able to fill in

2757
02:44:04.959 --> 02:44:06.840
<v Speaker 2>the blank and they're going to cut you off from

2758
02:44:06.840 --> 02:44:09.680
<v Speaker 2>that standpoint. That's really where this is rolling out, that

2759
02:44:09.680 --> 02:44:11.840
<v Speaker 2>that kind of social credit like we've seen already done

2760
02:44:11.879 --> 02:44:12.319
<v Speaker 2>in China.

2761
02:44:12.680 --> 02:44:15.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, this is happening in China, and of course

2762
02:44:15.040 --> 02:44:19.760
<v Speaker 4>it's happening here too. Go to twitters, see along you

2763
02:44:19.879 --> 02:44:21.719
<v Speaker 4>last saw Twitter is speaking your mind?

2764
02:44:22.000 --> 02:44:23.639
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I know, yeah, well you know it was

2765
02:44:23.920 --> 02:44:25.920
<v Speaker 2>it was a little over a year ago, after I'd

2766
02:44:25.959 --> 02:44:28.159
<v Speaker 2>done the show on my own for about six months

2767
02:44:28.600 --> 02:44:32.879
<v Speaker 2>that PayPal suddenly PayPal and Venmo just suddenly without any explanation.

2768
02:44:32.959 --> 02:44:34.639
<v Speaker 2>I could never get them to explain to me. I'll

2769
02:44:34.639 --> 02:44:36.360
<v Speaker 2>have to sue them if I want to get an explanation.

2770
02:44:36.399 --> 02:44:39.000
<v Speaker 2>They won't tell me. But they just pulled it. I

2771
02:44:39.040 --> 02:44:41.600
<v Speaker 2>can't even use them as an individual. That's what this

2772
02:44:41.639 --> 02:44:43.840
<v Speaker 2>is going to look like for everybody if they roll

2773
02:44:43.879 --> 02:44:47.319
<v Speaker 2>in this CBDC. We've seen it in Canada with the

2774
02:44:47.319 --> 02:44:51.799
<v Speaker 2>truckers and Trudeau coming after after their stuff. But it

2775
02:44:51.879 --> 02:44:54.520
<v Speaker 2>truly is amazing that they're able to get away with this,

2776
02:44:54.639 --> 02:44:57.959
<v Speaker 2>and it truly is amazing that the politicians in Washington

2777
02:44:57.959 --> 02:45:00.440
<v Speaker 2>are not doing anything about that. And as you point out,

2778
02:45:00.479 --> 02:45:03.600
<v Speaker 2>there's nobody in the Republican Party that's even talking about that,

2779
02:45:03.799 --> 02:45:04.760
<v Speaker 2>none of the politicians.

2780
02:45:04.760 --> 02:45:08.360
<v Speaker 4>And one, where where is Mitch McConnell, Where is Kevin McCarthy?

2781
02:45:08.559 --> 02:45:12.600
<v Speaker 4>Where are these people nowhere?

2782
02:45:12.680 --> 02:45:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, almost every time I talk about Mitch McConnell, I

2783
02:45:14.959 --> 02:45:17.600
<v Speaker 2>point out the insight that you had. And I'm still

2784
02:45:17.639 --> 02:45:20.360
<v Speaker 2>kicking myself because I didn't see it. But you said

2785
02:45:21.159 --> 02:45:24.799
<v Speaker 2>right after the election, you said they're going to get

2786
02:45:24.799 --> 02:45:27.639
<v Speaker 2>back into this Paris climate thing right away, and you

2787
02:45:27.719 --> 02:45:29.920
<v Speaker 2>figured this out. It was great that you figured this out.

2788
02:45:29.920 --> 02:45:32.000
<v Speaker 2>And I tried to publicize it as much as like it.

2789
02:45:32.079 --> 02:45:34.159
<v Speaker 2>But you said this Paris Climate thing is going to

2790
02:45:34.239 --> 02:45:36.079
<v Speaker 2>come back with Biden, and it did, and you said,

2791
02:45:36.120 --> 02:45:38.680
<v Speaker 2>the way to stop this is for Mitch McConnell to

2792
02:45:38.840 --> 02:45:41.200
<v Speaker 2>hold a vote, because there's no way they got the

2793
02:45:41.280 --> 02:45:43.120
<v Speaker 2>votes to ratify this as a treaty, and that would

2794
02:45:43.200 --> 02:45:44.879
<v Speaker 2>end it once and for all. Everybody was going back

2795
02:45:44.959 --> 02:45:46.719
<v Speaker 2>and forth about, well, what is Trump going to do? This?

2796
02:45:46.760 --> 02:45:48.200
<v Speaker 2>Is Trump going to do that to stop the Paris

2797
02:45:48.200 --> 02:45:50.239
<v Speaker 2>Climate Court? It should have been Mitch McConnell, and he

2798
02:45:50.280 --> 02:45:52.200
<v Speaker 2>could have done it even in the Biden administration when

2799
02:45:52.239 --> 02:45:55.479
<v Speaker 2>Biden said we've self ratified, you know, carry and I

2800
02:45:55.559 --> 02:45:58.040
<v Speaker 2>decided we'll sign it. You can't do that. They're just

2801
02:45:58.079 --> 02:46:00.000
<v Speaker 2>making this stuff up. He should have called their bluff,

2802
02:46:00.079 --> 02:46:02.120
<v Speaker 2>but he didn't do it because he didn't want to write.

2803
02:46:03.239 --> 02:46:06.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, you know. It's interesting because he did do

2804
02:46:06.120 --> 02:46:08.719
<v Speaker 4>it with the Green New Deal during the Trump administration

2805
02:46:08.760 --> 02:46:10.520
<v Speaker 4>when that first came up, he brought that to a

2806
02:46:10.600 --> 02:46:13.719
<v Speaker 4>vote and of course all Republicans voted against it and

2807
02:46:13.760 --> 02:46:16.719
<v Speaker 4>no Democrats voted at all. But for some reason, he

2808
02:46:16.760 --> 02:46:19.280
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't do it with the Paris Climate Accord. And he

2809
02:46:19.319 --> 02:46:21.440
<v Speaker 4>should have done it, because that would have put an

2810
02:46:21.559 --> 02:46:23.520
<v Speaker 4>end to it and we would not be in the

2811
02:46:23.559 --> 02:46:24.799
<v Speaker 4>Paris Climate Accord now.

2812
02:46:24.920 --> 02:46:28.479
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, yeah, yeah. Even the people who are true

2813
02:46:28.479 --> 02:46:31.360
<v Speaker 2>believers and all this climate change stuff, I've seen them

2814
02:46:31.479 --> 02:46:33.559
<v Speaker 2>very angry about this because they said, how can this

2815
02:46:33.639 --> 02:46:36.879
<v Speaker 2>be addressing what we think is a global problem if

2816
02:46:36.920 --> 02:46:39.559
<v Speaker 2>you're going to allow China and India to continue to

2817
02:46:39.559 --> 02:46:42.239
<v Speaker 2>add as many power plants as dirty as they are forever,

2818
02:46:42.319 --> 02:46:44.239
<v Speaker 2>you know what, not forever, but you know for decades

2819
02:46:44.399 --> 02:46:47.239
<v Speaker 2>while you're cutting it down here, you're just rearranging the

2820
02:46:47.319 --> 02:46:51.360
<v Speaker 2>economic chairs on the Titanic, they say, And you're not

2821
02:46:51.399 --> 02:46:53.479
<v Speaker 2>doing anything to address the problem if you let China

2822
02:46:53.479 --> 02:46:54.440
<v Speaker 2>and India go free.

2823
02:46:54.760 --> 02:46:57.799
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, you know, I guess that's you know, you

2824
02:46:57.879 --> 02:47:00.840
<v Speaker 4>mentioned it earlier, the World economic for Rum's idea was

2825
02:47:00.879 --> 02:47:04.079
<v Speaker 4>that China would just be this, you know, basically open

2826
02:47:04.159 --> 02:47:06.559
<v Speaker 4>sewer that produces all the goods and you know it's

2827
02:47:06.600 --> 02:47:09.920
<v Speaker 4>dirty over there, who cares? It's clean everyplace else? But

2828
02:47:10.040 --> 02:47:12.120
<v Speaker 4>of course, you know, China has its own mind. It's

2829
02:47:12.159 --> 02:47:18.520
<v Speaker 4>run by this aggressive communist party. Oh yeah, that is realizing, God,

2830
02:47:18.600 --> 02:47:21.559
<v Speaker 4>we have all this power, we can do whatever we want.

2831
02:47:21.639 --> 02:47:25.360
<v Speaker 4>You know, we can take Taiwan and there's nothing anybody

2832
02:47:25.399 --> 02:47:28.399
<v Speaker 4>can do about it, or would dare do anything about

2833
02:47:28.719 --> 02:47:30.879
<v Speaker 4>because we'll just shut down their economies.

2834
02:47:30.920 --> 02:47:32.879
<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's right. I think that had a lot

2835
02:47:32.920 --> 02:47:34.680
<v Speaker 2>to do. I've said this from the beginning. I think

2836
02:47:34.959 --> 02:47:40.719
<v Speaker 2>that that what they did in Shanghai was signaling to everybody, look,

2837
02:47:40.799 --> 02:47:43.360
<v Speaker 2>we can shut you all down. Yeah, when they shut

2838
02:47:43.360 --> 02:47:46.639
<v Speaker 2>down Shanghai, I think that was a very clever warning signal.

2839
02:47:46.680 --> 02:47:48.799
<v Speaker 2>Nobody else is really talking about that. Maybe they're afraid

2840
02:47:48.840 --> 02:47:49.479
<v Speaker 2>to talk about it.

2841
02:47:49.600 --> 02:47:51.760
<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, Look, if it comes to end times, the

2842
02:47:51.879 --> 02:47:54.399
<v Speaker 4>Chinese have shown they can do whatever they want to

2843
02:47:54.559 --> 02:47:55.639
<v Speaker 4>their own people.

2844
02:47:55.719 --> 02:47:56.159
<v Speaker 2>That's right.

2845
02:47:56.399 --> 02:47:58.920
<v Speaker 4>There's not going to be an uprising at home because

2846
02:47:59.159 --> 02:48:03.479
<v Speaker 4>they've got that. Yeah, so they can go to you know,

2847
02:48:04.159 --> 02:48:07.760
<v Speaker 4>war for keeps for everything against everybody else. They don't care.

2848
02:48:08.000 --> 02:48:10.000
<v Speaker 2>That's right. They don't care about their people, and they

2849
02:48:10.040 --> 02:48:12.719
<v Speaker 2>can they can do that to their people as a weapon.

2850
02:48:13.360 --> 02:48:16.000
<v Speaker 2>There was one thing that you mentioned on junk science

2851
02:48:16.040 --> 02:48:19.719
<v Speaker 2>dot com. Kentucky Attorney General is saying that ESG investing

2852
02:48:19.840 --> 02:48:22.280
<v Speaker 2>is a breach of an asset manager's forduciary study. So

2853
02:48:22.319 --> 02:48:24.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to in the time that we've got

2854
02:48:24.239 --> 02:48:27.200
<v Speaker 2>without touching on that, is there any hope that that

2855
02:48:27.360 --> 02:48:30.000
<v Speaker 2>is going to be an effective strategy against that? That's

2856
02:48:30.000 --> 02:48:30.719
<v Speaker 2>a great move.

2857
02:48:31.159 --> 02:48:33.360
<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, there's a lot of education that needs

2858
02:48:33.399 --> 02:48:36.639
<v Speaker 4>to go on. People need to realize that. You know,

2859
02:48:36.719 --> 02:48:39.440
<v Speaker 4>if you hire an investment manager for your money, of

2860
02:48:39.479 --> 02:48:43.840
<v Speaker 4>course is the duciary duty is legal duty is to

2861
02:48:43.879 --> 02:48:47.600
<v Speaker 4>increase your investment. It's not to implement somebody else, you know,

2862
02:48:47.639 --> 02:48:51.200
<v Speaker 4>his own social policy with your money. And it's it's

2863
02:48:51.239 --> 02:48:53.239
<v Speaker 4>odd that you actually have to say that, but the

2864
02:48:53.319 --> 02:48:57.319
<v Speaker 4>Kentucky Attorney General has now issued an opinion and that

2865
02:48:57.479 --> 02:49:00.600
<v Speaker 4>needs to unfortunately, have to be marketed to everybody else

2866
02:49:00.639 --> 02:49:05.079
<v Speaker 4>as they realize that, you know, people that are pushing

2867
02:49:05.399 --> 02:49:10.040
<v Speaker 4>ESG versus trying to make money for you or investors

2868
02:49:10.120 --> 02:49:13.920
<v Speaker 4>or state pension funds or whatever it is, that's all illegal.

2869
02:49:14.200 --> 02:49:16.879
<v Speaker 2>That's right, That's right. Yeah, that that should be echoed

2870
02:49:17.520 --> 02:49:19.079
<v Speaker 2>very very loudly. So why I wanted to get to

2871
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<v Speaker 2>that and always you're right at the center of everything, Steve,

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<v Speaker 2>I really do you're coming on?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you picked that up. I haven't seen anybody

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02:49:26.680 --> 02:49:29.040
<v Speaker 2>else pick that up. The fact that the Kentucky Attorney

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02:49:29.040 --> 02:49:31.319
<v Speaker 2>General is saying, hey, you're breaching your froduciary trust. You

2877
02:49:31.360 --> 02:49:33.319
<v Speaker 2>were supposed to make money for these people, make money

2878
02:49:33.319 --> 02:49:36.440
<v Speaker 2>for the pension plans, and you're out, you know, chasing

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<v Speaker 2>your rainbows or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Literally, where is the media on all this? I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I find it hard to believe that the last more

2882
02:49:44.799 --> 02:49:47.360
<v Speaker 4>than thirty years on this nonsense. None of it is

2883
02:49:47.479 --> 02:49:51.719
<v Speaker 4>rocket science. It's just it's just inconvenient facts that nobody

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02:49:51.719 --> 02:49:54.559
<v Speaker 4>wants to consider, even people on our own side.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. I agree. Well, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 2>coming on. I'm glad you're feeling better, and folks, you

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know what is happening at the epicenter

2888
02:50:03.520 --> 02:50:07.079
<v Speaker 2>and somebody who stays on top of it and sees

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02:50:07.120 --> 02:50:11.239
<v Speaker 2>what is happening across the political and economic spectrum. That's

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<v Speaker 2>Steve molloy at junkscience dot com. Thank you very much, Steve, appreciate.

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<v Speaker 4>It, David, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you all right, folks. In a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>time that we have left, I can't let today's show

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<v Speaker 2>end without talking about the new historical location, or as

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02:50:25.959 --> 02:50:29.920
<v Speaker 2>some people have said, a new hysterical location on Google Maps,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is Brandon Falls. Yes, people actually got it

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<v Speaker 2>on Google Maps for about a day. They marked the

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02:50:38.719 --> 02:50:43.040
<v Speaker 2>spot where Biden fell off of his bicycle. They marked

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<v Speaker 2>it as Brandon Falls, and then Google removed it after

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<v Speaker 2>people started leaving reviews, and so then somebody put up

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<v Speaker 2>a bicycle shop at the same location, and the comments

2902
02:50:53.879 --> 02:50:58.360
<v Speaker 2>and the reviews of the bicycle shop were very nice

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02:50:58.360 --> 02:51:00.840
<v Speaker 2>place to ride a bike. Be careful not to cause

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02:51:00.879 --> 02:51:03.360
<v Speaker 2>too much inflation in your tires or you can end

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02:51:03.440 --> 02:51:06.120
<v Speaker 2>up crashing your whole bike into the ground. But what happens,

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<v Speaker 2>you just blame putin and people will fall for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Another one said the bicycle shop there, Brandon's Bicycle Shop,

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02:51:14.799 --> 02:51:19.840
<v Speaker 2>wonderful place, better than Niagara Falls, a true hysterical landmark.

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<v Speaker 2>I came across this place by accident on my bicycle.

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<v Speaker 2>Get your ice cream there as well, but leave your

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<v Speaker 2>kids at home. And that was echoed by other people

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02:51:29.879 --> 02:51:33.920
<v Speaker 2>who said, great tacos and ice cream at the Brandon

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<v Speaker 2>Bicycle Shop, but it is not kid friendly. Not kid friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody else who is not kid friendly is Nicki Haley.

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<v Speaker 2>I like this headline Hillary Clinton levels of cringe. That

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<v Speaker 2>was a comment of one person who was looking at

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02:51:49.479 --> 02:51:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Nicki Haley so desperate for power. That is a very

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02:51:53.760 --> 02:51:59.440
<v Speaker 2>big warning sign. One of the most vicious authoritarian warmongers

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever seen in my life from any political party

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<v Speaker 2>is Nicky Haley, and for the life of me can't

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<v Speaker 2>understand why so many Christians find her attractive. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>end of our show. Thank you for joining us the

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<v Speaker 2>common man. They created common Core and dumbed down our children.

2924
02:52:29.159 --> 02:52:33.040
<v Speaker 2>They created common past track and control us. They're Commons

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02:52:33.120 --> 02:52:37.440
<v Speaker 2>project to make sure the commoners own nothing and the

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02:52:37.520 --> 02:52:42.319
<v Speaker 2>communist future. They see the common man as simple, not

2927
02:52:42.440 --> 02:52:47.239
<v Speaker 2>sophisticated ordinary. But each of us has worth and dignity

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<v Speaker 2>created in the image of God. That is what we

2929
02:52:52.319 --> 02:52:55.159
<v Speaker 2>have in common. That is what they want to take away.

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<v Speaker 2>Their most powerful weapons are isolation, deception, and tim They

2931
02:53:01.319 --> 02:53:04.760
<v Speaker 2>desire to know everything about us, while they hide everything

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02:53:05.000 --> 02:53:09.079
<v Speaker 2>from us. It's time to turn that around and expose

2933
02:53:09.200 --> 02:53:12.840
<v Speaker 2>what they want to hide. Please share the information and

2934
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<v Speaker 2>links you'll find at the Davidnightshow dot com. Thank you

2935
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<v Speaker 2>for listening, Thank you for sharing. If you can't support

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<v Speaker 2>us financially, please keep us in your prayers. Ddavidnightshow dot com.