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Speaker 5: Today we're going to talk about that major league in sports,
Speaker 5: an American institution known as Nolan Ryan. And our special
Speaker 5: guest is Tim Brown, who wrote in a fabulous toe
Speaker 5: about Nolan Ryan simply called Nolan the singular life of
Speaker 5: an American original. And you know, Nolan Ryan, folks, was
Speaker 5: a hero to two of America's biggest institutions, Texas and
Speaker 5: Major League baseball. He played longer, throw harder, and amassed
Speaker 5: more pitching records fifty three to be exact, than anyone
Speaker 5: before or since. And as he did, Nolan, Ryan came
Speaker 5: to represent what was exceptional exceptional about a game when
Speaker 5: it was still America's pastime. You know, veteran baseball journalist
Speaker 5: New York Times bestselling author Tim Brown, who's here today.
Speaker 5: He provides a definitive biography in his book, Nolan, and
Speaker 5: we're going to talk all about that and really what
Speaker 5: made Ryan such a dominant and feared pitcher and what
Speaker 5: lessons can we learn from his amazing career and life.
Speaker 5: What you don't have today is you don't have the
Speaker 5: pictures throwing the amount of innings and the amount of
Speaker 5: strikeouts that Ryan did back then. You've got some great
Speaker 5: pictures right now, but he was kind of stood out
Speaker 5: on his own along with guys like Sandy Kofax and
Speaker 5: Bob Gibson and.
Speaker 4: Don Sutton.
Speaker 5: Was a very crafty pitcher who pitched a lot of
Speaker 5: innings in a long time. Also, we're going to get
Speaker 5: into all of that and more on today's Guys Guys Radio.
Speaker 5: We're going to talk about baseball. We're going to talk
Speaker 5: about Nolan Ryan and all the lessons we can learn
Speaker 5: from his wonderful career with sports writer Tim Brown.
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Speaker 5: Okay, guys, guys Radio. It is the interview portion of
Speaker 5: our show. And let's start with a question. What made
Speaker 5: Nolan Ryan's fastball so dominant? And could any pitcher in
Speaker 5: today's game match his combination of power and endurance. Well,
Speaker 5: we're going to talk about that today on Guys Guys
Speaker 5: Radio with our special guest, sports writer Tim Brown. On
Speaker 5: Tim's covered baseball out in LA for more than thirty years.
Speaker 5: He's written to New York Times bestseller's The Phenomena with
Speaker 5: Rick and Keel and Imperfect with the One Arm Jim Abbott,
Speaker 5: who threw a no hitter for my New York Yankees.
Speaker 5: He also wrote the Tao of the Backup Catcher. I
Speaker 5: love the name of that book. I gotta search it out,
Speaker 5: And in twenty sixteen he was awarded first place in
Speaker 5: Beat writing by the Associated Press Sports Editors. Welcome to
Speaker 5: Guys Guys Radio, Tim Brown. We're going to talk about
Speaker 5: Nolan Ryan today. Here's the new book. It just came out,
Speaker 5: the Singular Life of an American Original and he sure is.
Speaker 5: Welcome to the show, Tim Robert, thanks for having me.
Speaker 5: How are you today, I'm doing fantastic And I gotta
Speaker 5: tell you, I just finished the book and wow, he's
Speaker 5: Nolan Ryan's a mythical kind of legendary man's man. He's
Speaker 5: like the John Wayne of baseball, and he must have
Speaker 5: been a very interesting Everybody has a story.
Speaker 4: About him, it seems like.
Speaker 5: And there's nothing that one thing that sticks out except
Speaker 5: for he's like the Rolling Stones. He's got longevity and
Speaker 5: he maintained his quality right through his I was it
Speaker 5: twenty seven years or so in Major League Baseball, just
Speaker 5: absolutely amazing. Tell us about your just first take on
Speaker 5: Nolan Ryan after writing the book.
Speaker 6: Well, I'll start at the beginning. I was seven years
Speaker 6: old living in White Plains, New York when the Mets
Speaker 6: won the nineteen sixty nine World Series. That's a very
Speaker 6: vulnerable age as a sports fan, and therefore I was
Speaker 6: saddled with being a Mets fan for the rest of
Speaker 6: my life. Now, before you feel too sorry for me,
Speaker 6: remember who won the Super Bowl that year, and that
Speaker 6: was the New York Jets. So I've been lugging that
Speaker 6: around as well. But that was my and I felt
Speaker 6: like as I was thinking about Nolan as a subject,
Speaker 6: it occurred to me that for half of my life
Speaker 6: he was a pitcher, and I was aware of him
Speaker 6: as a pitcher. I grew up with Nolan Ryan. You're right,
Speaker 6: this mystique, this guy who was there every year, this
Speaker 6: guy who was a power pitcher into well into what
Speaker 6: we would we would have considered middle age at the time,
Speaker 6: and I just thought, you know, he was unique when
Speaker 6: he pitched, and the further we get from that, it
Speaker 6: becomes almost unfathomable what he did. And I think my
Speaker 6: duty was to remind people that there was a way
Speaker 6: the game was played and there was a type of
Speaker 6: person who played it for a very long time. And
Speaker 6: while things have changed, those numbers that you might look
Speaker 6: up on Baseball Reference and look down on all these
Speaker 6: columns and how they end in fifty some records by
Speaker 6: the time he retired, were real. These things actually existed,
Speaker 6: that a game was played at a certain time in
Speaker 6: a certain era that looked like this. It wasn't by
Speaker 6: the way. I mean, he may have been unusual for
Speaker 6: the longevity part of it, but there were a lot
Speaker 6: of pitchers then who were throwing two hundred and eighty
Speaker 6: three hundred innings, who you know were through hard, who
Speaker 6: made forty some starts in the year, who pitched on
Speaker 6: four days rest. And as my as I got a
Speaker 6: bit older over the past say ten years or so,
Speaker 6: I would watch starting pitchers come off the mound with
Speaker 6: an out in the sixth inning and tip their cap
Speaker 6: to an adoring crowd. Or I would watch no hitters
Speaker 6: die not in the batter's box, but on the manager
Speaker 6: on the top step of the dugout, or in the
Speaker 6: GM's office, or god forbid, in the analytics room, and
Speaker 6: I would mutter to myself, where have you gone, Nolan Ryan?
Speaker 6: You know? And I think one day I just got
Speaker 6: in my car and drove to Texas to find Nolan
Speaker 6: Ryan and tell.
Speaker 5: Us about that journey, because he's not an easy guy
Speaker 5: to find. As we were kind of briefly chatting before
Speaker 5: the show, I noticed that, wow, I didn't since there
Speaker 5: was a lot of and it's got everything. The book
Speaker 5: is great, and it's really well written. It's got everything
Speaker 5: about Nolan Ryan and so many anecdotes and great stories,
Speaker 5: and you really nail who he is. However, part of
Speaker 5: who he is is He's not that accessible. So when
Speaker 5: you went on your journey to Texas to find Nolan Ryan,
Speaker 5: I'll bet it wasn't easy.
Speaker 6: Right, You're absolutely right. So honestly, the journey was to
Speaker 6: find the idea of Nolan Ryan, the notion of Nolan Ryan.
Speaker 6: So I went to this little town forty miles south
Speaker 6: of Houston called Alvin, and I spent three weeks there
Speaker 6: learning about the how and the why. And that was
Speaker 6: what was important to me was what sort of place
Speaker 6: produces a man, pitcher, an athlete, a ballplayer like Nolan Ryan.
Speaker 6: What were the values there? What did it feel like here?
Speaker 6: Why did he commit himself to this craft like no
Speaker 6: one else in the history of the game. Who was
Speaker 6: this person? And I feel like it had to start
Speaker 6: in this little town where you learn who are your
Speaker 6: role models, what are your values? What's important to you?
Speaker 6: How hard are you going to work for this? And
Speaker 6: I did find that and I began to understand as
Speaker 6: much as an outsider could, particularly with Nolan's dad. You know,
Speaker 6: Nolan was the youngest of six kids. Four of his
Speaker 6: older siblings were girls. And what was important to Nolan's father,
Speaker 6: Lynn Nolan Ryan Senior, was putting those four girls through college.
Speaker 6: And the way he did that was to hold two jobs.
Speaker 6: He worked in the oil field. During the day. He
Speaker 6: would come home, eat dinner, go to bed, sleep for
Speaker 6: several hours, get up at twelve thirty am, and deliver
Speaker 6: newspapers into the morning, come home, have breakfast, and start
Speaker 6: all over again. And I don't think as a boy,
Speaker 6: you watch this person, this person who's so important in
Speaker 6: your life, commit to something like this over many many
Speaker 6: years and not grow up with those same sort of
Speaker 6: that same sort of work ethic, those same sort of values,
Speaker 6: those sense of decency about being responsible for other people.
Speaker 6: Where where the important things in your life are taking
Speaker 6: care of your family, representing well, going to church on Sundays.
Speaker 6: It was all of these things. And that's what I
Speaker 6: found there, which was in the moment, of course, you know,
Speaker 6: to go back to your original question, I knew that
Speaker 6: Nolan was out there. The family was somewhat reluctant to
Speaker 6: speak to me out of the gate, because they don't
Speaker 6: just jump in on every project that crosses their desk.
Speaker 6: But I think, over a couple of years, doing all
Speaker 6: the research, talking to all the people that I and
Speaker 6: I hesitate to use this word because I don't want
Speaker 6: to put words into their mouths. But I think I
Speaker 6: earned my time with them toward the end of the
Speaker 6: research process where they invited me down to where they
Speaker 6: live now, which is outside Round Rock, Texas. And you know,
Speaker 6: I think you know, Nolan asked me, he goes, why
Speaker 6: are you doing this? I said, because I'm curious. And
Speaker 6: that's really the beginning and the end of it was
Speaker 6: this great curiosity about this ballplayer and growing old and
Speaker 6: you know, looking back over his shoulder on a lifetime
Speaker 6: spent in pursuit of all these things we just talked about.
Speaker 5: Wow, Okay, guests on Today's Guys Guys radio sports writer
Speaker 5: Tim Brown the book Nolan, The Singular Life of an
Speaker 5: American Original, and he sure is. So I've got a
Speaker 5: lot of questions about kind of the where he is now,
Speaker 5: But let's start at the beginning. How did he discover
Speaker 5: like baseball and how did they discover him that, like, Wow,
Speaker 5: this guy's got a special arm right.
Speaker 6: Well, I think the great backstory is that Nolan's older siblings,
Speaker 6: five of them. He had one brother as well as
Speaker 6: the four sisters. We're all brilliant in school. Honor roll
Speaker 6: straight A's school was easy for them, and Nolan had
Speaker 6: dyslexia and he struggled at school. So you're walking into
Speaker 6: the same school, down the same hallways, into the same classrooms,
Speaker 6: in front of the same teachers, and suddenly you're not
Speaker 6: like the rest of the rions. There's an expectation of
Speaker 6: more of the same, but there wasn't. And I think
Speaker 6: that drove him onto the ball fields. I mean, he
Speaker 6: loved sports. There's a great anecdote. He feels like the
Speaker 6: first new thing he ever got was a baseball glove.
Speaker 6: His dad drove him to the hardware store where they
Speaker 6: kept all the gloves, and he picked out his new glove,
Speaker 6: the first hand me down, non hand me down thing
Speaker 6: in his life. And what I love about that, as
Speaker 6: an aside, is that the museum is across the street
Speaker 6: from where that old hardware store used to be, and
Speaker 6: that glove is in that museum. So it traveled over,
Speaker 6: you know, seventy years now, it basically traveled half a
Speaker 6: block to go from the hardware store to the museum
Speaker 6: case and he just found that the baseball field. You know,
Speaker 6: he had trouble in English read the book, but he
Speaker 6: could read a scoreboard and That's where he got his
Speaker 6: confidence that, you know, the school day an end, and
Speaker 6: now it's his time. Now it's his time to shine.
Speaker 6: All that disappointment he felt in the classroom from teachers
Speaker 6: or fellow students was all washed away and it was
Speaker 6: time for Nolan Ryan to shine. And he loved it
Speaker 6: and he excelled and he was He learned very early
Speaker 6: on that he had this big arm and he was
Speaker 6: going to ride it.
Speaker 5: Why do you think he had such a big arm?
Speaker 5: Is it the mechanics? Just route strength, determination, a combination
Speaker 5: of three coordination, eye hind coordination or you know, strong
Speaker 5: lower body, were all of these things.
Speaker 4: What was he Well?
Speaker 6: I think he was a terrific natural athlete. He was
Speaker 6: a very good baseball player, or I'm a very good
Speaker 6: basketball player as well as baseball. But you know, we
Speaker 6: all grew up with kids who were about the same
Speaker 6: size as them, but just there was something different about him.
Speaker 6: You know, you play catch with them and that last
Speaker 6: foot got on you quick. You're like, well that's a
Speaker 6: little different. So early on, you know, I don't know
Speaker 6: if there was anything other than he was just a
Speaker 6: pretty good natural athlete. And then I found I think
Speaker 6: he found that winning was important to him, and he
Speaker 6: committed to these teams and he enjoyed it. And there's,
Speaker 6: you know, the great story where he wasn't you know,
Speaker 6: it might have been a teenager at the time, where
Speaker 6: you know, he had the big fastball, but he still
Speaker 6: couldn't control it. Yeah, and he like hit the first kid,
Speaker 6: hit the second kid, broke the helmet of the third kid,
Speaker 6: and the fourth kid wouldn't come to the plate. He
Speaker 6: told the coach, I'm not going up there, and Alan said, yeah,
Speaker 6: I knew I had him then refusing to come to
Speaker 6: the plate. That that's a pretty good sign. So I
Speaker 6: think that, you know, to push that a little. You
Speaker 6: asked about the discovery and the wild thing to me,
Speaker 6: especially in the context of today, where we know, you know,
Speaker 6: you could you could get information on every fourteen year
Speaker 6: old baseball player in the country if you wanted it,
Speaker 6: and you know, you'd know their swing, you know what
Speaker 6: they look like on a mound. Back then, it didn't
Speaker 6: work that way at all. And it's wild for me
Speaker 6: to think that he was this kid who was throwing
Speaker 6: who knows, ninety ninety five, you know, in high school
Speaker 6: and one scout found him one Yeah, I know, and
Speaker 6: Alvin High School had a good baseball program, they played
Speaker 6: good teams, they were in the state tournament, and for
Speaker 6: whatever reason, the fact that he couldn't control this fastball,
Speaker 6: the fact that he didn't have a great second pitch,
Speaker 6: he still had this very sort of sloppy curveball. One scout,
Speaker 6: a guy named Red Murph, who tramped all over the
Speaker 6: state and all the states nearby, stumbled onto him one
Speaker 6: afternoon and thought, this is the greatest arm I've ever seen.
Speaker 6: And a little sunken chested, skinny, one hundred and forty
Speaker 6: pound kid from Alvin High School who that day came
Speaker 6: in in relief. And Red Murph hadn't even planned on
Speaker 6: being there that day. It was just a fluke. And
Speaker 6: my sense is if Red hadn't steered his car toward
Speaker 6: that ballpark that day, we'd be talking about Nolan Ryan
Speaker 6: the veterin area amazing.
Speaker 5: So let's fast forward to he's on the Mets. He
Speaker 5: gets drafted by the Mets, he goes all the way
Speaker 5: through to the World Series against the Orioles, which they
Speaker 5: won in the five games, and then he got traded
Speaker 5: to the Angels. I believe if I recall correctly, and
Speaker 5: then he really blossomed. So what was this issue beyond
Speaker 5: the control thing? Why didn't the Mets management even though
Speaker 5: they drafted him, he seemed they seemed there seemed to
Speaker 5: be based on the book Tim a lot of naysayers
Speaker 5: within the organization who weren't really buying into what Nolan
Speaker 5: Ryan's true potential was.
Speaker 6: Right, They couldn't figure out how to get Nolan sort
Speaker 6: of tracked toward the strike zone, which was what it
Speaker 6: basically came down to.
Speaker 4: And so you'd.
Speaker 6: Get this guy who's putting up all these numbers in
Speaker 6: the minor league, striking out two batters an inning and
Speaker 6: and throwing you know, deep into games. Already they knew
Speaker 6: they had this force, they knew about this fastball, and
Speaker 6: the organization was very impatient for the next tom Sever, right,
Speaker 6: they needed the next Tom sever and it just wasn't
Speaker 6: coming for whatever reason. And I think there's there were
Speaker 6: a variety of reasons to take this little this kid
Speaker 6: from a small town in Texas, and you put them
Speaker 6: in New York City and you add all these expectations,
Speaker 6: and you add the press that's all leaning in also
Speaker 6: wondering when the next Tom sever is going to show
Speaker 6: up wearing Nolan Ryan's number. Uh, and all of that combined,
Speaker 6: plus he's newly married. He's you know, his wife is
Speaker 6: Ruth is two years younger than he is. They're trying
Speaker 6: to sort out the world. Who are they going to be,
Speaker 6: what are they going to be together? What does what
Speaker 6: does baseball look like? What does it feel like? And
Speaker 6: you know, there was there were certainly plenty of conversations
Speaker 6: back then about maybe baseball is just not for me
Speaker 6: because the experience was was just rough and the team
Speaker 6: Gil Hodges was the manager, Ruby Walker was the pitching coach,
Speaker 6: and they just couldn't figure it out. He was. They
Speaker 6: just didn't know what they were going to get when
Speaker 6: they put him in a game. And it got to
Speaker 6: a point where, uh, you know, it was time to
Speaker 6: they needed offense. They went and got this far shortstop
Speaker 6: from from the Angels, who was you know, thirty years
Speaker 6: old and and could hit, and they were going to
Speaker 6: put him at third base and off they were going
Speaker 6: to go behind this this pitching staff with the Severs
Speaker 6: and Kouzman's and Gentries and mc andrews and John Mattlack
Speaker 6: was coming and uh, it just all made sense then
Speaker 6: well he was. He'd barely gotten in the door in
Speaker 6: Anaheim when Tom Morgan, the pitching coach with the Angels,
Speaker 6: said we got to rework your mechanics. And they did
Speaker 6: and suddenly, look, he was never going to be, you know, guy,
Speaker 6: a command a control pitcher. But they got it squared
Speaker 6: away enough where it was it was legit where you know,
Speaker 6: instead of walking six guys a game, he was walking
Speaker 6: four and that made all the difference.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you got into this, it's a
Speaker 5: pretty granular question, but what was what was he doing
Speaker 5: wrong in his mechanics?
Speaker 6: Well, you know, to get the weeds a little bit.
Speaker 6: He was flying open, he was his shoulders front shoulder
Speaker 6: was whipping toward the first base dugout and the ball
Speaker 6: was flying all over the plate. And what Tom Morgan
Speaker 6: would do was he tom Morgan would stand right next
Speaker 6: to Nolan and said, if you don't go straight to
Speaker 6: the plate, you're gonna hit me in the face or
Speaker 6: knock me off. And so they did that for weeks
Speaker 6: and weeks and weeks with Tom Morgan standing right on
Speaker 6: top of Nolan, and he had nowhere to go. He
Speaker 6: had to go straight to the plate. So you get
Speaker 6: it all streamlined, you get everything behind the ball. The
Speaker 6: fastball even ticked up a little at the time, curveball
Speaker 6: came better as a result, and you know, suddenly he
Speaker 6: was a competitive pitcher.
Speaker 4: Amazing.
Speaker 5: So what tell us about his kind of trajectory with
Speaker 5: the Angels then, because before he went to the Astros
Speaker 5: and the Rangers. Finally he's had a good run. He
Speaker 5: really became the Ryan Express on the Angels.
Speaker 6: Right, he became a superstar. He became suddenly a guy
Speaker 6: who you couldn't trust over four or five innings to
Speaker 6: a guy you could trust over three hundred innings. And
Speaker 6: I think probably you know, there was suddenly he had
Speaker 6: all this confidence. There was never a doubt that he
Speaker 6: was going to get the ball. Four days later, the
Speaker 6: manager would leave me in games deep into games, you know,
Speaker 6: into the eighth ninth inning. I would put Robert. I
Speaker 6: would put up his seventy two through seventy four seasons.
Speaker 6: Those three seasons. You could cherry pick three seasons out
Speaker 6: of your favorite pitcher, no matter where they are. They
Speaker 6: don't have to be consecutive. And I would put those
Speaker 6: three seasons up against any you know, just ridiculous numbers
Speaker 6: in terms of nine hundred and fifty innings pitched and
Speaker 6: you know, a thousand and some strikeouts. He just what,
Speaker 6: like I want to say, seventy five seventy six complete
Speaker 6: games in that period. He just became suddenly, you know,
Speaker 6: he just grew all of a sudden. He was not
Speaker 6: just a guy who, Wow, this feels better. He was
Speaker 6: a guy who was I'm going to beat you today
Speaker 6: and every single day. And the wild thing you pushed
Speaker 6: that out just a little bit further is he lost
Speaker 6: sixteen games every season, exactly sixteen games every season because
Speaker 6: the Angels, which would be a running theme in his career,
Speaker 6: the Angels weren't very good.
Speaker 5: Now what some of the amazing stats I think were
Speaker 5: like per game pitches nowadays, Like I'm out here in
Speaker 5: the San Diego area and i like to watch the
Speaker 5: Padres and they're like five innings from the starter, and
Speaker 5: then we got the greatest.
Speaker 4: Inning, inning inning inning.
Speaker 5: Right in Nolan's day, he pitched, if I got this correct,
Speaker 5: over two hundred pitches and a number of starts.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Well the most famous one, of course, was
Speaker 6: the two hundred and thirty five pitch game against the
Speaker 6: Red Sox, and uh what The part I love it
Speaker 6: is Louis Tiant was pitching for the Red Sox. The
Speaker 6: game went into extra innings. I think it was I
Speaker 6: think Nolan pitched thirteen innings and afterward he was mad
Speaker 6: that Bobby Winkles, the manager, pulled him out of the
Speaker 6: game because t pitched fourteen. That game.
Speaker 4: Absolutely amazing.
Speaker 5: Now, what do you think about that in terms of
Speaker 5: your you know, you've been on the beach for all
Speaker 5: these years that the game has changed. What do you
Speaker 5: how would you compare those days to nowadays?
Speaker 6: Where?
Speaker 4: And why?
Speaker 5: Why can't these Why are these pitchers always getting Tommy
Speaker 5: John surgery? Why why are they getting injured all the time?
Speaker 5: And why could those pitchers, the Bob Gibson, the Don Drysdales,
Speaker 5: the Nolan Ryans of the world just pitch and pitch
Speaker 5: and pitch that they can't do that today.
Speaker 6: Yeah, here's my theory is I would say fifteen years
Speaker 6: ago we started hearing about little leaguers, high schoolers, college
Speaker 6: pitchers throwing way way too many pitches on developing arms,
Speaker 6: and there was a real push to put establish some
Speaker 6: guardrails about you know, we're abusing the arms of the
Speaker 6: next generation of pitchers, which I think was completely legit. Well,
Speaker 6: we are now seeing the result of those guardrails in
Speaker 6: that pitchers will show up in the big leagues who
Speaker 6: have never seen the seventh viting. They've never been asked
Speaker 6: to pitch that long. And I don't, you know, I
Speaker 6: don't know where to place. I don't even know if
Speaker 6: blame is the right word. But where this sits exactly?
Speaker 6: Is it the fact that I don't think that this
Speaker 6: generation of pitchers is any less tough or any any
Speaker 6: less capable. They certainly throw harder jam speaking across the board,
Speaker 6: but management is now trying to, you know, guard their investments.
Speaker 6: In one way, They're trying they're trying not to hurt
Speaker 6: these guys. And so you have this the other angle
Speaker 6: of this, You have this obsession with velocity. Right, You
Speaker 6: have guys who, you know, the only thing they think
Speaker 6: about from the time they're fourteen is throwing five miles
Speaker 6: an hour harder. And when they get that five miles
Speaker 6: an hour, they want five miles an hour after that.
Speaker 6: We also have, by the time you get into pro ball,
Speaker 6: is this real aversion to risk? And so I think
Speaker 6: those two things combined have led us to last year's
Speaker 6: leader and complete games in the big leagues through two,
Speaker 6: which you know, in Nolan's time would be a good week.
Speaker 5: Now another thing that's changed in the game is uh,
Speaker 5: it seemed like when Nolan pitched was accepted to he
Speaker 5: did a lot more knockdowns than they do today.
Speaker 4: You don't see as many beamballs.
Speaker 5: It was a game a couple of nights ago with
Speaker 5: the with the Padres and the Orioles where they started
Speaker 5: hitting each other. But that's a rarity in my opinion nowadays,
Speaker 5: where in Ryan's time, if you sweared for a bunt,
Speaker 5: he's going to plunk you the next time up. And
Speaker 5: the picture the batters were terrified of getting up against
Speaker 5: him in many ways because if you got too much,
Speaker 5: too close to the plate, you're going down.
Speaker 4: What's changed there?
Speaker 6: I think it was accepted as part of the game then,
Speaker 6: and you know, God forbid you you stare at a
Speaker 6: home run for a second or two too long, because
Speaker 6: pictures had long memories. What I think you know that
Speaker 6: that for me makes me think about all the conversation
Speaker 6: about who threw the hardest fastball, you know, and you
Speaker 6: know miss Rowski now throwing one hundred and four and
Speaker 6: a half miles an hour, and uh, you know, obviously
Speaker 6: relievers are throwing up well above one hundred and for me,
Speaker 6: I don't know. Did Nolan throw harder than that or
Speaker 6: right around there or a little softer than I don't know.
Speaker 6: But what I do know is that Nolan Ryan's fastball
Speaker 6: was what it was because of its attitude, because of
Speaker 6: the guy who threw it, because of where he was
Speaker 6: willing to throw it, because of his ability to use
Speaker 6: it as a weapon, because of his ability to buy
Speaker 6: that inside foot off the plate. And I think that
Speaker 6: made the difference. And if you're throwing, you know, whether
Speaker 6: you're throwing ninety seven or you're throwing one hundred and four,
Speaker 6: you know that courage and that insistent, that relentlessness of
Speaker 6: pitching inside and owning that plate and owning that field
Speaker 6: that night and competing. You know, every hitter, every opposing
Speaker 6: hitter I talked to from that era said, look, they
Speaker 6: were hard at bats. There were guys you just didn't
Speaker 6: think you could hit. But there was only one at
Speaker 6: bat that felt personal, and that was the one against
Speaker 6: Nolan Ryan. So it was just a different time.
Speaker 5: Now his pitch, did his fastball have a particular way
Speaker 5: that did it break, did it pop up?
Speaker 4: Did it take off?
Speaker 5: Because a lot a lot of different pictures the way
Speaker 5: they throw their fastball.
Speaker 4: Moves sometimes and yeah, I think.
Speaker 5: He was there something special about his or was it random?
Speaker 6: Well, you know, part of the problem was when it
Speaker 6: didn't come out of his hand perfectly, it would tail.
Speaker 6: And let's say he's throwing one hundred miles an hour
Speaker 6: and you're right handed batter, it would when it tailed,
Speaker 6: it tailed right at your neck, so you know it
Speaker 6: had a little natural tail to it. Catchers, the catchers
Speaker 6: I spoke to who caught him, and some of the
Speaker 6: hitters said his ball rose, And I would say, I
Speaker 6: understand what you trying to say, that it had more
Speaker 6: a little more carry than other pictures, but it didn't
Speaker 6: really rise right, And They're like, no, I swear it rose,
Speaker 6: and I'm like, okay, but like not really, Like if
Speaker 6: we're going to talk physics, like the ball is not
Speaker 6: really no, it rose a foot. I would get into
Speaker 6: these these like fun little arguments about whether or not
Speaker 6: it's even possible for a human being to throw a
Speaker 6: baseball that rises across sixty feet. But you know it
Speaker 6: had that little jump on it that was just a
Speaker 6: little different. That was his signature.
Speaker 5: Now did he use a four seamer, two seamers, different
Speaker 5: grips and stuff.
Speaker 6: Or did he just yeah, he threw a four seemer.
Speaker 6: Late in his career, he would stuff it back in
Speaker 6: his palm a little bit more and he would get,
Speaker 6: you know, sort of this dive at the end of
Speaker 6: it as well. It would come out a little bit softer,
Speaker 6: but still, you know, he's a power picture. You know.
Speaker 6: The funny thing was that across his career, change up
Speaker 6: was a little slow to come. And I was talking
Speaker 6: to one of his catchers, Art Kushner, who said he
Speaker 6: was around when they were really trying to develop that pitch.
Speaker 6: The problem was he kept throwing at ninety four miles
Speaker 6: an hour and just it acted like everybody else's fastball,
Speaker 6: so it became kind of hittable.
Speaker 4: Got it okay?
Speaker 5: My special guest on Guys Guys Radio, Tim Brown, amazing
Speaker 5: author of Nolan The Singular Life of an American Original.
Speaker 4: We're talking about Nolan Ryan.
Speaker 5: When you had access to Nolan Ryan, I know he's
Speaker 5: not an easy guy to get to, even though.
Speaker 4: You're writing a book about him.
Speaker 5: What did he have to say about pitching itself and
Speaker 5: his pitching style and what he believed made him different.
Speaker 6: You know, I think when we talked, we talked less
Speaker 6: about the sort of the mechanics of pitching a little bit.
Speaker 6: You know, we talked about the perfect fastball a little bit,
Speaker 6: which I found kind of interesting because I had this
Speaker 6: curiosity about a guy who was this talented. You know,
Speaker 6: hitters talk about that perfect contact where the ball doesn't
Speaker 6: even register in your hands, right, You just don't even
Speaker 6: feel it off the bat. And anyone who's played a
Speaker 6: little bit of baseball is lucked into one of those
Speaker 6: once in a while or golf. You feel it in
Speaker 6: golf once in a while. And I said, is it
Speaker 6: are such a thing? And he said, you know, what
Speaker 6: I was trying to do was bury a strike down
Speaker 6: and away from right. He's down away from lefties, and
Speaker 6: that was that was the pitch. I was always chasing
Speaker 6: down and away for a strike ish right that that
Speaker 6: looked like a strike or acted like a strike, And
Speaker 6: that was the pitch he was always chasing. You know.
Speaker 6: I think that we talked more about the attitude of
Speaker 6: pitching and how he could discern almost as a hitter
Speaker 6: was walking toward the plate, whether or not he wanted
Speaker 6: this today or not, whether he was game enough, whether
Speaker 6: you know it was going to be a fight or
Speaker 6: it was going to end quickly for for both of them.
Speaker 6: And and I sort of love those conversations about reading
Speaker 6: a batter, looking in his eyes, noticing when he inched
Speaker 6: back in the batter's box a little bit because he
Speaker 6: was maybe a little afraid, or maybe just trying to
Speaker 6: get through this game and get to the you know,
Speaker 6: the next guy in the rotation, or just trying to survive.
Speaker 6: And you know, Chillie Davis says, you know, you'd stand
Speaker 6: over there and guy like Nolan and you think, well,
Speaker 6: if I'm going to die, I'm going to die, but
Speaker 6: I'm going to go down swinging. And that was Nolan
Speaker 6: would take up on that. He would he would see,
Speaker 6: he knew who was there to hit and who was
Speaker 6: there just to get through the game.
Speaker 5: Well to that point, Tim, some batters did have success
Speaker 5: against him. Could you tell us a little bit about
Speaker 5: who those players were and what was their approach that
Speaker 5: made them be in a position to be successful against
Speaker 5: Nolan Ryan.
Speaker 6: You Unsurprisingly, the guys who had a decent amount of
Speaker 6: success against him had a decent amount of success against
Speaker 6: a lot of people. It was the type the likes
Speaker 6: of George Bretton or Rod Carew. Pete Rose was okay
Speaker 6: against him. I loved the sort of talking to Will
Speaker 6: Clark about him, because Will Clark famously in his first
Speaker 6: big league at bat barely off the campus in Mississippi
Speaker 6: State homered off of Nolan in the Astronome, and he
Speaker 6: tells this great story about you know, and everyone knows
Speaker 6: if you remember Will Clark, there was a lot of
Speaker 6: energy there, you know, he was He was always a
Speaker 6: guy who was sort of vibrating a little bit. And
Speaker 6: he gets up there for his first big league bat.
Speaker 6: There's a full ballpark and it's Nolan Ryan, and I
Speaker 6: mean he's basically starting his swing at the at the batrack,
Speaker 6: and Nolan Ryan throws him a curveball and it looked
Speaker 6: like Will Clark had been shot with a with an arrow.
Speaker 6: He was so stunned by this and he snickered, and
Speaker 6: catcher looks up and says, what are you laughing? And
Speaker 6: he goes the express just ro me a curveball like
Speaker 6: it was all this respect or something. Well, you know,
Speaker 6: Will Will homers and Will Will Homer six times against him,
Speaker 6: which is the most anybody had. And he couldn't really
Speaker 6: explain why him, you know, why, why did you? He
Speaker 6: just said, there was just some guys who you saw
Speaker 6: a little bit better than other guys. There's no explaining it.
Speaker 6: It's where your eyes went or whatever. But the sort
Speaker 6: of the beautiful coda of the story is that years
Speaker 6: later Nolan had just retired but was still around the Rangers,
Speaker 6: and Will had had signed with the Rangers, and they
Speaker 6: would occasionally cross paths in a hallway or whatever, and
Speaker 6: Will would say hey, Nolan, and Nolan would side on
Speaker 6: him and real coldly just say Will. So he still
Speaker 6: was carrying this thing that hitters pictures. You know, it
Speaker 6: never ended.
Speaker 4: For Nolan amazing.
Speaker 5: So he was on the Angels, he became a super
Speaker 5: and then he ends up on the Astros. How did
Speaker 5: he go from the Angels to the Astros and then
Speaker 5: ultimately to the Rangers.
Speaker 6: Well, free agency, right, this brand new kind of thing
Speaker 6: really at the time, and uh, you know, his his
Speaker 6: oldest son read late in his career in Anaheim, I
Speaker 6: think it was his last year in Anaheim, had been
Speaker 6: hit by a car in the neighborhood where Nolan lived,
Speaker 6: and I think there was just this big pull to
Speaker 6: go back to Texas, back to Alvin. You know, if
Speaker 6: he played for the Astros, he'd be a short drive
Speaker 6: to the ballpark every day. I think that was important
Speaker 6: to him. They also made him the first million dollar player,
Speaker 6: you know, in the history of the game, a million dollars,
Speaker 6: and everyone was, you know, lost their minds over that.
Speaker 6: What kind of you know, baseball player is worth a
Speaker 6: million dollars a year, So it all fit, you know.
Speaker 6: It allowed him to go home. The family thing was
Speaker 6: always very important to him. You know, his his father
Speaker 6: had passed by then, but his mother was still alive,
Speaker 6: still living in the old house where Nolan grew up
Speaker 6: in in Alvin and out and Nolan had a ranch
Speaker 6: in Alvin, and they they spent that that decade basically,
Speaker 6: you know, reinvesting in in Alvin and and and re
Speaker 6: engaging the boys and you know, two sons and a daughter.
Speaker 6: They all went to Alvin High School and they basically
Speaker 6: relived Nolan's life, you know there, and I think that
Speaker 6: was important. And then he was a free agent again,
Speaker 6: went to Texas to the Rangers, which I think is
Speaker 6: my favorite chapter of Nolan's career because you go to
Speaker 6: this this franchise that had never been to the playoffs
Speaker 6: and it was really an irrelevant thing in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 6: They'd not done anything. The owner was broke, he was
Speaker 6: going bankrupt. There was talk about moving the Rangers to
Speaker 6: another city. It just wasn't working there. And uh, you know,
Speaker 6: I think he felt a responsive ability. You know, he
Speaker 6: didn't do it for free, but I think he felt
Speaker 6: the responsibility to Texas Baseball. He wasn't going to go
Speaker 6: back to Houston that didn't wasn't working out. They tried
Speaker 6: to cut his salary and he wasn't having any of that.
Speaker 6: And he basically pumped some life into a franchise that
Speaker 6: otherwise was going under fantastic.
Speaker 5: So what is Nolan Ryan doing now? And I know
Speaker 5: you met him, What is he in good health? If
Speaker 5: I may ask, is what is he up to nowadays?
Speaker 6: Then? So Nolan is seventy nine years old, right and
Speaker 6: fighting all those demons of being seventy nine years old.
Speaker 6: You know, he's had back surgery and he's fighting that
Speaker 6: a little bit. And you know he's got he's still
Speaker 6: his ranches and he's still when when his health allows
Speaker 6: he will get in the car and he's only a
Speaker 6: couple hours away from from the closest ranch, and like
Speaker 6: he told me, I like to be there when the
Speaker 6: calves hit the ground, you know. And I think it's
Speaker 6: I think it's frustrating for you know, I'm sixty three
Speaker 6: years old now and there's things that I can't do
Speaker 6: that I used to be able to do, and I
Speaker 6: find very frustrating. So I can only imagine what it's
Speaker 6: going to feel like fifteen years from now.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: It's I think we all, Robert and you can agree
Speaker 6: with this. You know, you spend your whole life doing
Speaker 6: this one thing, and it was all about baseball. He
Speaker 6: played until he was forty six, and then he became
Speaker 6: president of the Rangers. You search for the scoreboards, right
Speaker 6: where's my where's my scoreboard? How am I keeping track now?
Speaker 6: And I think, you know, again, I don't know how
Speaker 6: he feels about this today necessarily, but I think that
Speaker 6: that's a little bit of a gap in his life.
Speaker 6: Where's my scoreboard? These days? But I think, you know,
Speaker 6: as two sons live in Round Rock nearby, that means
Speaker 6: he's got grand children nearby. They owned the minor league
Speaker 6: team in Round Rock the Express. He's still got a
Speaker 6: lot to do with that, you know, I know we
Speaker 6: talked about this. It's difficult to see all of his
Speaker 6: friends pass away, that these you know particularly, you know,
Speaker 6: a lot of the sixty nine Mets have gone. In fact,
Speaker 6: a lot of the people I talked to in this
Speaker 6: book have since passed. So that's difficult for him. But
Speaker 6: I think he's sort of holding on to family and
Speaker 6: holding onto the as much ranching as he can do.
Speaker 6: He's got a dog named Buddy, he loves that. He
Speaker 6: hangs out with a lot and gets as much done
Speaker 6: with the ball clubs as his health will allow.
Speaker 5: Now, since the book came out, have you gotten any
Speaker 5: response from either Nolan or the family or they? I
Speaker 5: assume they're very pleased because you did. The writing's fantastic.
Speaker 5: I think you were very authentic in how you covered Ryan.
Speaker 5: You didn't like you weren't fawning all over him, but
Speaker 5: you were just laying out the facts. And if you
Speaker 5: look at his career statistics, they're absolutely amazing. And the
Speaker 5: respect that he's commanded from his fellow players is unsurpassed.
Speaker 5: I mean, he is a myth, a living myth, and legend.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's funny. I didn't. It's it's a
Speaker 6: good question, because I didn't start out to write a
Speaker 6: book they liked or didn't like. That that wasn't part
Speaker 6: of the equation. I just wanted to sort of tell
Speaker 6: a story, tell a story about a guy who had
Speaker 6: kind of a cool life. And but come around publication day,
Speaker 6: which has been a few weeks now, it suddenly became
Speaker 6: important to me that they liked it, and and I've
Speaker 6: gotten very nice feedback from the family that they felt
Speaker 6: that this was a very authentic, real accurate account of
Speaker 6: Nolan's life and the family's life and who they are
Speaker 6: now and what's important to them and what it all
Speaker 6: meant now.
Speaker 5: Tim last question, his stats, which are so amazing. Whether
Speaker 5: it's the innings pitch that I think he's still the
Speaker 5: all time strikeout leader, a lot of wins, a lot
Speaker 5: of lost strikeouts, complete games. What do you think is
Speaker 5: the most important statistic that really tells who Nolan Ryan
Speaker 5: really is and why he should be remembered forever in
Speaker 5: baseball mythology if you will.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's funny. How often I would go
Speaker 6: to a player who'd been around a long time, and
Speaker 6: I think the last time I did this was with
Speaker 6: Albert Poolhols and I printed out his career stats and
Speaker 6: I said, you know, what are you most proud of?
Speaker 6: And pooh Holes pointed to games played and I said, really,
Speaker 6: all the home runs, all the hits, all all that,
Speaker 6: and he said, it just meant that I was there
Speaker 6: for my teammates. That's how That's how often I showed
Speaker 6: up and was there for my teammates. And I bet
Speaker 6: I did not ask Nolan what he was proud of.
Speaker 6: I did ask what his favorite game was. I you know,
Speaker 6: I didn't ask what statistic he was proudest of, but
Speaker 6: I would bet that it was that he started close
Speaker 6: to a hundred games if you include the playoffs. And
Speaker 6: I think that that would would be important to him
Speaker 6: because that means he was he had prepared himself eight
Speaker 6: hundred different times to be the best player on the
Speaker 6: on the field that day, to win a baseball game,
Speaker 6: and to give the fans something to watch. My guess
Speaker 6: is that that would be it.
Speaker 5: Okay, kind of a part two of that question, What
Speaker 5: can readers take away from this in terms of the
Speaker 5: life lesson that reading about and learning about a guy
Speaker 5: like Nolan Ryan, who is a throwback kind of cowboy
Speaker 5: John Wayne all American kind of man's man. What can
Speaker 5: people today and are the generations are so different now,
Speaker 5: what could be a takeaway that they can use right now.
Speaker 4: To be the best they could possibly be.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll give you the thing that always sticks out
Speaker 6: to me, and I think again it's you know, I
Speaker 6: am my father's son. I have sons myself, and that
Speaker 6: what Nolan Ryan did. I didn't know what to do
Speaker 6: exactly with this career. You know, it was wonderful and flawed.
Speaker 6: And what I've where I've come in and what I
Speaker 6: came to understand with this was a working man's career.
Speaker 6: And I asked myself, well, where did that come from?
Speaker 6: It came from his dad, that example of making your
Speaker 6: father proud and showing up and putting in the work.
Speaker 6: And you know this, it didn't have to go this way,
Speaker 6: but he almost insisted on it. And there's there's a
Speaker 6: real element there for me in terms of him recognizing
Speaker 6: early on that this arm was a gift. And I
Speaker 6: think I referred early that earlier in this conversation to
Speaker 6: him writing that gift it was actually just the opposite
Speaker 6: he could have written the gift, but what he decided
Speaker 6: was that I owe something to this gift, that I
Speaker 6: must honor this gift. And I think we all have
Speaker 6: a gift, right, we all have something we're good at.
Speaker 6: And I think what life asked you is what are
Speaker 6: you going to put into it? How much of yourself
Speaker 6: are you going to give to this gift in order
Speaker 6: to make the most of it? So that's what I
Speaker 6: would say.
Speaker 5: Amazing, amazing job on the book, Tim Brown. We look
Speaker 5: forward to more works from you. Tell everybody where they
Speaker 5: can learn more about you, where they can get the book,
Speaker 5: website or whatever, etc.
Speaker 6: Well, they can get the book wherever you buy books, Amazon, Apple, etc.
Speaker 6: I've got a website by Tim Brown dot com which
Speaker 6: won't give you anything more than like where to order
Speaker 6: the book basically, but yeah, wherever wherever you find them,
Speaker 6: they'll be there.
Speaker 5: Fantastic, great conversation. Thanks for being a guys guy, Tim Brown.
Speaker 5: Terrific job on Guys Guys Radio.
Speaker 4: Thank you man.
Speaker 6: Thanks Robert, It's guys Guy Radio.
Speaker 5: Okay, an amazing conversation about American legend, sports legend Nolan
Speaker 5: Ryan and what did we learn today? Well, first of all,
Speaker 5: I want to correct myself. I think I mentioned that
Speaker 5: Nolan Ryan was kind of like Wayne and that they
Speaker 5: were both from Texas, but they weren't both from Texas.
Speaker 5: I don't believe John Wayne was from Texas, but if
Speaker 5: I said he was, and I think we could all
Speaker 5: consider the fact that he could have been from Texas
Speaker 5: because he's one of those strong, rugged individualists that sometimes
Speaker 5: from a mythology standpoint, we equate with Texas in many
Speaker 5: ways the real American individual But anyways, Nolan Ryan was special.
Speaker 5: Some of the records he set twenty seven major league seasons,
Speaker 5: which is a record seven no hitters, twelve one hitters
Speaker 5: who he's tied with Bob Feller for that, eighteen to
Speaker 5: two hitters, thirty one to three hitters, all records, five,
Speaker 5: seven hundred and fourteen strikeouts in a career, three hundred
Speaker 5: and eighty three in one season, twenty four seasons of
Speaker 5: one hundred or more strikeouts, twenty three seasons consecutive seasons
Speaker 5: of one hundred and more strikeouts. He also led all
Speaker 5: pitchers of all time and walks. I think one of
Speaker 5: the takeaways about Nolan Ryan is he persevered. He started out,
Speaker 5: he hadn't fully developed his fastball.
Speaker 4: He was wild.
Speaker 5: The Mets gave up on him, and he went to
Speaker 5: the California Angels. I'm not sure if they were the
Speaker 5: California or the La Angels at that time, but he
Speaker 5: blossomed there and his fastball became known as.
Speaker 4: The Ryan Express.
Speaker 5: And he was never backed down, and he challenged the hitters.
Speaker 5: And if you squared up to bunt against him, good
Speaker 5: luck the next time you got up.
Speaker 4: And if you got.
Speaker 5: Too close to the plate, good luck for you, because
Speaker 5: he threw what was known as the boat tie, which
Speaker 5: would be right under the chin of the batters. And
Speaker 5: you know, it's a dangerous thing. I'm not advocating it,
Speaker 5: but sometimes these old school guys, these tough guys like
Speaker 5: Nolan Ryan, they would really challenge the hitters and it
Speaker 5: wasn't to hurt them, it was just to basically lay
Speaker 5: claim to the fact that that strikes in his mind.
Speaker 5: So he's a pretty amazing icon, and I think the
Speaker 5: lessons that we can take from him are about hard
Speaker 5: work and determination, real American attributes that I think we
Speaker 5: have to reflect on mind ourselves on, especially half a days.
Speaker 5: So I hope you enjoyed our interview with Tim Ryan
Speaker 5: about Nolan Ryan. Thank you for listening to Guys Guys Radio.
Speaker 5: We'll be back next week with a brand new episode.
Speaker 5: And until then, like I always say, Guys, Guys finish.
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