Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to the most
Speaker 1: important speech you will watch today, April first, twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: I am Chuck Mockler. Will and Adam are unavoidably detained.
Speaker 1: I do know where they are, but I will not
Speaker 1: be telling you. So we're just doing a quick live
Speaker 1: episode today. It is just me, possibly Joseph I Award
Speaker 1: hopping on, but we are Clips and Dip. Thank you
Speaker 1: for hanging out. If you're listening to the audio version
Speaker 1: of this after I've put it out and you missed
Speaker 1: the video, you can always find us at YouTube dot
Speaker 1: com slash at Clippers podcasts. And I am doing this
Speaker 1: pod today mostly just because yesterday was so frustrating. I
Speaker 1: do want to open this by saying that going twelve
Speaker 1: and six over March was incredible. I had them going
Speaker 1: ten and eight. There were some highs, obviously with the
Speaker 1: Knicks and the Wolves wins. There were some streaks in there.
Speaker 1: The Pels back to back sucked, But again, twelve and
Speaker 1: six over March is fantastic. What's up? Punk's gone wrong? Yes?
Speaker 1: I don't know if that game was heartbreaking so much
Speaker 1: it was frustrating, because that's how I felt watching the game.
Speaker 1: Will and I were watching the game. It was incredibly
Speaker 1: just not fun. I was trying to pick out my
Speaker 1: least favorite part of last night and someone in the
Speaker 1: chat is already asking about the offensive rebounds. Yes, dj
Speaker 1: D Flow, I think we might be the worst defensive
Speaker 1: rebounding team. They had literally the worst. They gave up
Speaker 1: the second most second chance points the Clippers have given
Speaker 1: up in the play by play era. They gave up
Speaker 1: thirty two second chance points, which is insane. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: We talked about it on the preview about how Portland
Speaker 1: is a really good offensive rebounding team. I'm going to
Speaker 1: talk about the Spurs and a few We were also
Speaker 1: a good offensive rebounding team. But that's incredibly frustrating. It
Speaker 1: was rage bait. Losing out on that many rebounds is
Speaker 1: rage bait exactly. Not having Isaiah Jackson is a killer.
Speaker 1: He's out again for the Spurs game, which is unfortunate.
Speaker 1: The rebounding was very frustrating. Kawhi's risk situation is very frustrating.
Speaker 1: Heard it and a fall against the Raptors. He's fighting
Speaker 1: through it. His risk got hit a few times and
Speaker 1: I'm I don't no part of me believes that the
Speaker 1: Blazers were trying to injure Kawi on purpose at all.
Speaker 1: It's just the nature of the game which sucks. Oh,
Speaker 1: Alex Webb nice Alex got to meet at him yesterday.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, that makes sense. It was the highlight strictly
Speaker 1: because the game was so bad. Alan's saying, if this
Speaker 1: is how they perform in big moments, it's an I mean,
Speaker 1: part of it was being exhausted, right, it was eighteen
Speaker 1: teams or it was eighteen games. Zorro saying we were
Speaker 1: two steps behind. Went on defense, Yes, and now we
Speaker 1: are welcoming to the show. Joseph Fry Award. Joseph, first
Speaker 1: of all, thank you for hopping on. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a quick worse. And I am being a little negative
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna put it in the chat. Last night
Speaker 1: was rage bait. The whole missing out on defensive rebounds
Speaker 1: is rage bait. Kawhi being having the rist his rage bait.
Speaker 1: One bench guy showing up offensively is frustrating. Drew Holiday
Speaker 1: Adam wanted me to remind you that you may have
Speaker 1: mentioned something about Drew Holliday being washed.
Speaker 2: I didn't say that that was you. I agreed with
Speaker 2: you there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Drew was absolutely on fire. There was a stat
Speaker 1: from Law where he said, in a game decided by
Speaker 1: ten points, Denny and Drew Holliday outscored Kawhi and Darius
Speaker 1: Leonard fifty eight forty three.
Speaker 2: It was an embarrassment. Like I've been kind of stewing
Speaker 2: on it all day.
Speaker 1: Dude, that's exactly the word. Like no one at work
Speaker 1: watches anything. So I was just like sitting there losing
Speaker 1: my mind on this outline by myself.
Speaker 2: It's not just mad, just remembering all of the shitty
Speaker 2: things that happened. M No, that's not what happened. Bone
Speaker 2: saw twenty eight. Don't don't start with the fake news. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's not nice. That's not nice. Shock, what what you
Speaker 2: did to me? No? I you know, I'm trying to
Speaker 2: be rational about it and like not throw the baby
Speaker 2: out with the bathwater. Right the eighteenth game in March. Whatever,
Speaker 2: they're tired, maybe I don't care. But the whole time
Speaker 2: I was walking it, I think I pinpointed why I
Speaker 2: was so mad. It reminded me of the two to one.
Speaker 1: Three Clippers not showing up in an important game.
Speaker 2: Just like like loafing and and not doing all of it.
Speaker 2: There was no school, there was no effort.
Speaker 1: It was it's a younger team that they're playing. Yes,
Speaker 1: that was on very clearly on display, I think in
Speaker 1: terms of the like snappiness of the effort, and it was.
Speaker 2: Like from the jump, the Blazers very clearly. My daughter's
Speaker 2: trying to get in on the pod, she's got some
Speaker 2: thoughts too, but I think it was very very clear
Speaker 2: that the Blazers wanted to win the game, and yeah,
Speaker 2: see that's how I felt. And then it was very
Speaker 2: very clear that the Clippers just were like, Okay, I
Speaker 2: guess they really want to win this one. And there
Speaker 2: wasn't ever a match of the energy other than when
Speaker 2: Brook Lopez went to the floor that one time, Like
Speaker 2: there was a very brief moment where there was some energy,
Speaker 2: but then after that it just totally disappeared.
Speaker 1: The rotations were super weird, Brooke taking the third most
Speaker 1: field goals. Still, yeah, there's a lot. This is the
Speaker 1: dichotomy of Clippers podcasting right here, Tyler. You took because
Speaker 1: the small ball lineup was rough. Yes, it was an
Speaker 1: eight man rotation, which I was surprised by. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was surprised that the team played four meaningful minutes, but
Speaker 1: he acknowledged. He was like, we're not very good at it.
Speaker 1: We haven't done it all season long. Hey, accurate.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, it's true. But to me, like the lineups, whatever,
Speaker 2: it just kind of came down to they didn't try
Speaker 2: hard enough. Like there just wasn't enough effort collectively. My
Speaker 2: daughter is yelling at me, but there just wasn't enough
Speaker 2: effort collectively. And you can kind of chalk some of
Speaker 2: it up to like hot shoot. I mean some of
Speaker 2: the shots that the Blazers were hitting was like, well
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 1: But they still only shot from free Like it's not
Speaker 1: like they like lit us up.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think another piece of it is too,
Speaker 2: like there.
Speaker 3: Were a lot of really weird bounces, like a ball
Speaker 3: would hit a guy's hand and then would bounce off
Speaker 3: five other guys, and it just I think all of
Speaker 3: that is to say, that's not an excuse and it's
Speaker 3: not like, oh, we can just chop it up to variants.
Speaker 2: It felt like the Clippers allowed themselves to get defeated
Speaker 2: by those things.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 2: By the end of the game, they were complaining to
Speaker 2: the refs, they were slumping their shoulders and they just.
Speaker 1: Got the tack. I was like, all right, like you're
Speaker 1: getting the tech off the bench like this, that's that's
Speaker 1: that's showing that you're frustrated. I'm not like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: some of those some of those turnovers in transition was
Speaker 1: like stuff that we haven't seen in a long time,
Speaker 1: like one like this was.
Speaker 2: Up.
Speaker 1: This is how much I stewed about it. Other than
Speaker 1: his first game as a Clipper, this is the only
Speaker 1: other time Darius Garlan has had a negative assist to
Speaker 1: turnover Roustio. Yeah, and like bad luck. That's just crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah it again. They could win the rest of their
Speaker 2: game somehow, and like we wipe this away right, nobody remembers.
Speaker 2: And so I'm hoping that they end on a good
Speaker 2: run and we don't fall back. But to see them
Speaker 2: not show up in a game that was big just
Speaker 2: frustrates me. After all of the like, okay, we turned
Speaker 2: it around from six to twenty one, we're gonna be
Speaker 2: over five hundred. Maybe this team has a puncher's chance.
Speaker 2: And last night it was really hard not to think like, oh,
Speaker 2: this team just isn't very good.
Speaker 1: Well, they just look they looked tired, That was my
Speaker 1: biggest thing because it was like, again, we're we're in
Speaker 1: another scenario where it's two weeks before the playoffs, but
Speaker 1: the Clippers have to play playoff level basketball. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: we got to play him again. We're a half game up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if they win on the tenth, the second to last
Speaker 1: game will be tied up rex season wise, and then
Speaker 1: it goes to division record where the Clippers are eight
Speaker 1: and six and the Blazers are seven and eight as
Speaker 1: of right now, what is play that we get to
Speaker 1: play the Kings, So like we're probably getting to ten
Speaker 1: and six for division. I think we're fine.
Speaker 2: What most frustrates me is like this was, as we
Speaker 2: talked about the last time I was on, like this
Speaker 2: was the Handle of your Business game. Yeah, right, come
Speaker 2: in handle your business at home, and now you don't
Speaker 2: have to work, like you can kind of get maybe
Speaker 2: get a little rest, maybe you can try to like.
Speaker 1: You don't have to worry as much about maybe being
Speaker 1: in the extra planet game. Right, Just huge, Yeah, and this.
Speaker 2: Team can't afford if they even want to make it
Speaker 2: a series, not even like oh they're gonna win against
Speaker 2: either of the top two, but like if they even
Speaker 2: want to make it a series.
Speaker 1: Put in some good reps.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, also the double and Denny King. I don't
Speaker 2: know if I trust this team in rotation behind a double,
Speaker 2: and it's been the plague of a Tylo team for
Speaker 2: the last what five years, So yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: This is just I would really it struck a nerve
Speaker 2: with me because it just feels.
Speaker 4: Like, again, we have this Laisy Fair attitude when we
Speaker 4: don't we don't have.
Speaker 2: Anything to back up, like warranting that like Ylou hasn't
Speaker 2: won a playoff series since twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: Sure, there's been some extenuating factors there.
Speaker 2: But also, oh, we just got to get healthy. Well
Speaker 2: we got healthy, and you were in Beverly Hills saying
Speaker 2: everything's fine, and.
Speaker 1: We wait Beverly Hill.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like we I think I'm just tradered. It's
Speaker 2: really what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: It was a frustrating game.
Speaker 2: I didn't that's it.
Speaker 1: No, because it's hard to not go incredibly negative when
Speaker 1: you do see all of the things that are frustrating
Speaker 1: about this team happened over a forty eight minutes.
Speaker 2: It's a trauma response for what we've watched the rebounding
Speaker 2: the team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the rebounding issues, the weird turn they only had
Speaker 1: fourteen turnovers. They tied in turnovers, but it felt like
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 2: It'selt like they had five hundred.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Math didn't show up. Math was rough last night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he couldn't get to the line. And if he doesn't
Speaker 1: have it shooting, he kind of gets the tunnel vision
Speaker 1: and if he's not getting the line, that's how you
Speaker 1: only get twenty two minutes in math. Like, I was
Speaker 1: surprised that the rotation was so short. I thought Batom
Speaker 1: would have gotten more time, like yeah, or Kobe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's where I'm at at this point. Like,
Speaker 2: if you're not gonna play Buttomb for whatever reason, right
Speaker 2: right right, try Kobe saying we don't have enough shooting,
Speaker 2: and you correct.
Speaker 1: And if you're bad at small ball five because you
Speaker 1: haven't played it all year, try it. We'll probably see
Speaker 1: it tomorrow. A little more time with Batoomb as that
Speaker 1: small ball five a guy who's very level at playing it,
Speaker 1: and that is good for this team. You're not a
Speaker 1: guy you're not having Like Collins is good too, but
Speaker 1: like he's kind of been in between. He shot great
Speaker 1: obviously we needed he played well last night, but it
Speaker 1: was just like the bench not showing up killed me. Man,
Speaker 1: Like other than Jordan Miller, no one else two buckets.
Speaker 2: Everything felt like it was here last night. Yea, everything
Speaker 2: felt like it was here, Like it wasn't necessarily like
Speaker 2: a fatigue thing or whatever. Sometimes you know, physical fatigue
Speaker 2: at least some mental fatigue. But everything felt like they
Speaker 2: lost up here. I don't think they expected the Blazers
Speaker 2: to punch them in the mouth, which I think they
Speaker 2: expected to come out, and just like.
Speaker 1: Because they were, they were down guys. That's the other frustrating. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jeremy Grant didn't play like Shuddon Sharp was out. He's
Speaker 1: been out. But it's just like and man missing Isaiah Jackson.
Speaker 2: It's rough, it's rough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again he's out. Yeah, I don't know that.
Speaker 1: It was just a very frustrating and I set it
Speaker 1: off top before you got on. I was like, twelve
Speaker 1: and six over March is great. That was incredible, Like,
Speaker 1: hats off to them. I had them at ten and eight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like, hey, some horrible things happened, some good things happen,
Speaker 1: and we got through the month. But we don't get
Speaker 1: a break, right, We're going straight. We're going straight into
Speaker 1: playing the Spurs, who thankfully are playing tonight, so we
Speaker 1: do get them. Hopefully they beat the Warriors and they
Speaker 1: have to work so hard at that that they're time
Speaker 1: that they're so sleepy. Forget that they beat us on
Speaker 1: the second night of a back to back, already, get
Speaker 1: that out of your brain. As of this recording, they've
Speaker 1: won nine in a row. They beat us twice last month,
Speaker 1: and they've only lost two times since the All Star break.
Speaker 2: So cool. I mean, they're gonna get to ten and
Speaker 2: then that.
Speaker 1: This is the first time we've had our main guys
Speaker 1: healthy for a Spurs game, first time Garland Kawhi get
Speaker 1: to go up against the Spurs, and.
Speaker 2: Like you would hope, I really, I really do feel
Speaker 2: like you would hope they're going to show up tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Sure would hope that yesterday.
Speaker 1: I think they're frustrated. Man. I thought of this is sorry,
Speaker 1: this is such a hard pivot, but I almost wanted
Speaker 1: to name this stream Trump e rob speech, just to
Speaker 1: see what how many like what seo wise that would
Speaker 1: do for the numbers. But then I thought we might
Speaker 1: just get the channel nuked. So I didn't. Sorry hard pivot,
Speaker 1: but it's okay. It was. It was cracking me up
Speaker 1: earlier thinking about that. But again, the rotation without Isaiah Jackson,
Speaker 1: who is going to be reevaluated over the next few days.
Speaker 1: We don't really know when he's coming back. I have
Speaker 1: to assume Batoum and Kobe play.
Speaker 2: More tomorrow, we would hope.
Speaker 1: So, I mean, I think the Clippers will more likely
Speaker 1: than not lose tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want them.
Speaker 1: They're playing again, They're playing against the best team in
Speaker 1: basketball right now. It's not an on the Clippers. They're
Speaker 1: running into a team that they might see in the
Speaker 1: playoffs depending how one and two go. But like they're
Speaker 1: they're playing a buzz saw right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I just just good reps. Have some good reps
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, start professionally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're at the point where Tie is like, oh,
Speaker 2: I gotta get ready for the play in playoffs, and
Speaker 2: so we will see rotations shortened in terms of like, oh,
Speaker 2: these are the guys I'm going to play.
Speaker 1: I need to see what I have and Kobe are
Speaker 1: out again because Batom before it became we're done with this,
Speaker 1: We're waving the white flag. But you played four minutes
Speaker 1: like it was early that I'm getting the nod.
Speaker 2: I don't think Tye trusts Nigo the way that he
Speaker 2: did anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a fair thing to think.
Speaker 2: Which is also somewhat moarrented. Right, he's pretty old at
Speaker 2: this point, Like it's not nigl Ba to him of
Speaker 2: five years ago.
Speaker 1: Right, we're trying to get on the stream too, say
Speaker 1: what's up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, all of our babies are just trying to
Speaker 2: get on the stream. But I do think that kind
Speaker 2: of hinders, which also I think frustrates us, right, Like
Speaker 2: we want to see the to him because we trust him.
Speaker 2: But I do think that there is some merit to Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't think I can write him as hard anymore.
Speaker 1: Right, he's a vet. He needs he's to take games
Speaker 1: off for rest. I get that someone brought up you
Speaker 1: talked about how we don't have shooters, and someone brought
Speaker 1: up Jordan Miller can't not being able to shoot it
Speaker 1: through to save his life. Funnily enough, he did shoot
Speaker 1: two for three yeah last night, but he doesn't take
Speaker 1: three ease is the issue, and I think that is
Speaker 1: going to be more apparent in the playoffs. When teams
Speaker 1: don't respect him as much. Mone Like, that's what's tough
Speaker 1: about Miller, His inside the his offensive game, inside the
Speaker 1: three point line. I love it. Yeah, it has to
Speaker 1: be so annoying to play against.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he travels on every possession and it
Speaker 2: doesn't get all So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great, we love but behind the arc, that's
Speaker 1: where the issue is. Like, but I don't know, we
Speaker 1: have they got to play the biggest thing I'm looking
Speaker 1: for is Kobe in between playing more and Garland asserting
Speaker 1: himself more, make everyone else play around you. If you're
Speaker 1: Darius Garland.
Speaker 5: I'm I'm curious how we approach tomorrow because I do
Speaker 5: think if we if we see the Spurs, really our
Speaker 5: only pathway to even getting a couple of games is
Speaker 5: if we spam the three point line.
Speaker 2: That's my feelings.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, so I was looking at some offensive rebounding
Speaker 1: numbers for the Spurs. Yeah, over the last ten games.
Speaker 1: What do you think? So out of the five pillars
Speaker 1: of rebounding stats for this show, which is offensive rebounds
Speaker 1: per game, offensive rebound percentage, defensive rebounds per game, and
Speaker 1: defensive rebound percentage and then just rebound percentage, what do
Speaker 1: you think the lowest rank over the last ten games
Speaker 1: is for the Spurs in one of those categories? What
Speaker 1: do you think they're the what number do you think
Speaker 1: they're at?
Speaker 2: Do you want me to play this game appropriately or inappropriately?
Speaker 2: Because I want to know what answer you?
Speaker 1: Whoever? You want?
Speaker 2: Seven?
Speaker 1: Nope, their worst ranking is fifth in offensive rebound percentage.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yes, they're first in defensive rebound percentage, rebound percentage, defensive
Speaker 1: rebounds per game third, and offensive rebounds per game fifth
Speaker 1: and offensive rebound percentage over the last ten games. This
Speaker 1: what's difficult is we are cut. We are possibly in
Speaker 1: store for a more supercharged version of what we saw
Speaker 1: last night right on the glass. I'm not saying they're
Speaker 1: gonna score thirty two second chance points. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: the onslaught in the activity of the Spurs is even
Speaker 1: more so than the Blazers, which is a little worrisome.
Speaker 6: Right yeah, I mean it's not having a positive rebounding
Speaker 6: big In Brook Lopez is a problem.
Speaker 2: Not that he's a bad presence on the boards.
Speaker 1: Everybody walks about how good of a boxer outer he is,
Speaker 1: which he is, but that box that means our forward's
Speaker 1: gotta work that much more. Like that means Kawhi has
Speaker 1: to do that much more.
Speaker 2: I will say I had been super impressed with Derek
Speaker 2: Jones Junior and his increased rebounding effort. Man, but last
Speaker 2: night was not a good night for our boy.
Speaker 1: No, it was not a good night, don't I talked
Speaker 1: about a little bit. But like the shot distribution needs
Speaker 1: to be better against the Spurs. Yeah, I'm obviously Kawhi
Speaker 1: and Garland one and two right there. Number three should
Speaker 1: like probably be like Ben matherin Don Collins, anybody other
Speaker 1: than brook Brook Lopus should not take the third most
Speaker 1: field goal attempts. Yeah, in the game, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: don't take any, but if he is, he was like
Speaker 1: tied with Garland, I think or Kawhi with attempts last night.
Speaker 2: To me, last night that spoke more to the struggles
Speaker 2: that Garland and Kawhi had. I think just getting anything
Speaker 2: going than it did any functional issue with the offense.
Speaker 2: But I do think last night it was just it
Speaker 2: feels like an alarm bell and I don't want it
Speaker 2: to be. I want it to be a blip and
Speaker 2: not like a harbinger of what's.
Speaker 1: To come yeah, I'm yeah. I'm hoping it's a blip too.
Speaker 1: It's it sucks that they have to play the Spurs
Speaker 1: right after that particular loss, correct, because that is going
Speaker 1: to be dom dot normal saying Brooks should be like
Speaker 1: fifth or six in attempts. Absolutely if that, and at
Speaker 1: that point you're like you're taking ten a game or something,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like yeah, great, like, but
Speaker 1: this is the rotation crunch issue, right, It's the issue
Speaker 1: with having apparently eight guys right, how that rotation went
Speaker 1: last night that can play. I just hope we don't
Speaker 1: get murdered on the glass. Garland will be better in
Speaker 1: terms of assist to turnover ratio. I hope Kawai is okay,
Speaker 1: and we need we need Math to.
Speaker 2: Be better to be not diabolically bad man.
Speaker 1: He had six assists the other day and I was like,
Speaker 1: holy shit, Like, I hope this is something they can
Speaker 1: open up and build on.
Speaker 2: It's funny, you know, Lucas and I were talking about
Speaker 2: this actually the other day for the unoficiated Lucas Lucas
Speaker 2: Pam I believe is how he pounses it. It's very
Speaker 2: clear when you watch him on a possession. You can
Speaker 2: tell is he going to pass or is he going
Speaker 2: to shoot?
Speaker 1: The answer is both often shoot.
Speaker 7: And it's so funny because when he passes, he's a
Speaker 7: really good pass like he has the skill set. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 7: And so I just think it's so funny that like
Speaker 7: he gets this tunnel vision into one or the other,
Speaker 7: and it's like, dude, if you just blended the two,
Speaker 7: you're such a good passer, you could be so much
Speaker 7: better than you are right now.
Speaker 1: And I think like him being because he kind of
Speaker 1: has the Terrence Man thing where you can see that
Speaker 1: you can see the gears turning gears, and I think
Speaker 1: that guys just not being together and just being off yea,
Speaker 1: is it is helps him get into that mode, which
Speaker 1: is unfortunate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I feel that, and like I think we
Speaker 2: talked about it the last for one of the times
Speaker 2: I was on. But I definitely now see both sides, right.
Speaker 2: I see the side that I saw, which is this
Speaker 2: is a really good player who has a lot of
Speaker 2: really good raw talent.
Speaker 1: And I think should be on the team next year.
Speaker 2: For sure. I want to keep him. But I also
Speaker 2: see the pacer side of I'm not giving you twenty
Speaker 2: five to thirty million.
Speaker 1: I had a thought and for the people who watch
Speaker 1: this show, who have followed then Mathern from the Pacers
Speaker 1: to hear, thank you so much. And I what I'm
Speaker 1: about to say is not going to sound as harsh
Speaker 1: as I think it does. In my head right now,
Speaker 1: it feels like he is how can I put this?
Speaker 1: Kuminga seems like a poor man's Ben Mathern. Yes, that
Speaker 1: is what I That is how I feel. That's not
Speaker 1: a knock on Ben Mathern. It's a little in between
Speaker 1: start and bench for which also I don't think matters
Speaker 1: as much because if you're in the finishing lineups, that's
Speaker 1: just that's infinitely just as important. So I think that Again,
Speaker 1: that's not to say I think he should be on
Speaker 1: the team next year. I think the Clipper would be
Speaker 1: smart to re sign Ben, but it's just one of
Speaker 1: those things. There is a where does it fit fit
Speaker 1: to figure out.
Speaker 2: I think the best comp for him in terms of
Speaker 2: like Clippers is Norm m Yeah. Really really view it
Speaker 2: at six man, probably overqualified for six man, but long
Speaker 2: term starter unless the deficiencies change.
Speaker 1: Which they still can't. He is very yes, and he
Speaker 1: likes being on this team, and he likes playing with Kawhi,
Speaker 1: which I like, he's in a position to become a
Speaker 1: legitimate starter.
Speaker 2: Correct And and I honestly like, obviously I hope he
Speaker 2: becomes that selfishly, but I also think for him it
Speaker 2: would be so good to even if it's not just
Speaker 2: for this year, like next year, come in with a
Speaker 2: renewed focus, kind of like Norm did that first year
Speaker 2: he was just start and just being able to be like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I now know exactly who I am.
Speaker 1: Yes, and he can do it again. Yes, Okay, one
Speaker 1: thing the Clipper before you before we get out of here.
Speaker 1: One thing you think the Clippers absolutely need to do
Speaker 1: to get a win tomorrow, and your player of the
Speaker 1: game before I bring up one subject if you do
Speaker 1: have time.
Speaker 2: Okay, So what I think they need to do is
Speaker 2: bomb away. I know Ty, like why I I I
Speaker 2: know Ty likes to keep things close through his chest.
Speaker 2: But my game plan for hey, let's beat the Spurs
Speaker 2: is shoot as many threes as we can because they know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: just shoot fifty threes. I don't care, right, But also
Speaker 2: I would funnel every Spurs offensive possession to Wemby when
Speaker 2: he's on the floor. I want you. I want him
Speaker 2: to work as hard as he can. He can score fit.
Speaker 2: It's like the Luca principle for me. You can score fifty,
Speaker 2: that's cool. I just don't want you to have tennisists, right.
Speaker 2: I want you to tire yourself out. I want you
Speaker 2: to only be able to play twenty eight to thirty minutes.
Speaker 2: I want to make sure that my game plan is
Speaker 2: centered around you are not going to be on the
Speaker 2: floor as much as your team wants you to be
Speaker 2: on the floor. We've already seen Wemby tire out, wear down.
Speaker 2: We know that he's coming back from stuff, and so
Speaker 2: my game plan would be making workers hard as possible.
Speaker 2: Funnel him the ball, play really physical. You've got a
Speaker 2: lot of fouls to play with. Just like really allow
Speaker 2: him to take the brunt of the offense and on
Speaker 2: the other side, just fucking shoot it as many times
Speaker 2: as you can.
Speaker 1: And who's your player of the game.
Speaker 2: I think we see Darius Garland show up.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow on this show. You can't pick Darius Garner if
Speaker 1: they play well, obviously.
Speaker 2: I think we see John Collins build on his performance
Speaker 2: and score over twenty points.
Speaker 1: To Oh shit, all right, I like that Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say, just don't get murdered on the glass. Yes,
Speaker 1: just don't get massacred on the glass. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: I would love to win the boards. Right, Let's not
Speaker 1: give up twenty second chance points. Don't let weby get
Speaker 1: the double double or at least the Hardy double double. Right,
Speaker 1: And then player of the game. I'm gonna go. I
Speaker 1: picked Lopez for yesterday's game, which I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1: He went two for seven from three. I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: I'm going math dude. I think Mathrine, we're gonna see him.
Speaker 1: This is a when I have a bad game, I
Speaker 1: come out swinging and they connect.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm I just want to talk to him
Speaker 2: really quick.
Speaker 1: Ben da good watcher and listener of clips and day.
Speaker 2: At Ben Mathron, you should be embarrassed by your effort yesterday.
Speaker 2: Oh whoa, You should be embarrassed, and I challenge you
Speaker 2: to play a better game tomorrow and lift the Clippers
Speaker 2: to victory. That's what I do right now.
Speaker 1: The way this season is gone. This might get clipped
Speaker 1: and shown to Ben Mathron and then he's gonna put
Speaker 1: up thirty five points, and.
Speaker 2: I fucking hope so because you know what makes me
Speaker 2: most mad about March is we had a fifteen and
Speaker 2: three opportunity and we could have had Flamming to tweet again.
Speaker 1: I don't think flam was going to eat the tweeting again.
Speaker 2: He is a man of his word. Don't ever disrespectfulm
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying at all. I just don't
Speaker 1: think all right, one last thing, the Pat Bev podcast
Speaker 1: grift is annoying. I'm just it's just like, dude, we
Speaker 1: get it. You're an ex player and now you're saying
Speaker 1: that James Harden's better than Dwayne Wade for some reason.
Speaker 1: And I can tell you can tell that it's you
Speaker 1: can tell that he doesn't give a shit about this.
Speaker 1: It just feels like such an end of the cycle.
Speaker 1: Can we please stop this because it's so obvious. It's
Speaker 1: just like, dude, we get it. Like I'm tired of it,
Speaker 1: and I bove that Pat Bev is doing it.
Speaker 2: To be honest, I I loved Pat Bev with all
Speaker 2: of my heart for very long time.
Speaker 1: Yes, he's responsible for one of the greatest clippers pictures
Speaker 1: of all.
Speaker 2: Time and one of the greatest clippers moments of all time,
Speaker 2: which was him shoving Chris Paul in the back in
Speaker 2: the Western Conference Finals the greatest.
Speaker 1: Oh that was.
Speaker 2: But as someone who hated Chris Paul, I mean that's
Speaker 2: but uh yeah, it's the state of media not to
Speaker 2: be we're non journalists.
Speaker 1: We're not at all. But I have to be subjected
Speaker 1: to Pat Bev's takes hit in the face.
Speaker 2: It's bad right now. That's all I gotta say, is like,
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a lot of and he's like
Speaker 2: I'm just chalking.
Speaker 1: Like he had some tweet where he was like all
Speaker 1: these old men talking to Da Dada day and you're like,
Speaker 1: you're thirty seven old. And it's also like people are
Speaker 1: like thirty three. It's also like I actually think James
Speaker 1: Harden is a.
Speaker 8: Great yeah fit, wonderful, Yeah good, Like I don't that
Speaker 8: shouldn't grossome like you if you want to go argue
Speaker 8: with Pat bab about it, go for But it's like
Speaker 8: it's just useless.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 1: Say they love the game and then like do ship
Speaker 1: like this. I'm like this makes the game worse.
Speaker 2: It's it's hard, it's hard. It's it's really hard. Especially
Speaker 2: I think basketball has a has an identity crisis right now.
Speaker 2: In terms of media, I think I think some of
Speaker 2: what new like mediaites partners have been doing is really good,
Speaker 2: trying to bring the love back to the game. But
Speaker 2: I do think that we have strayed too far from
Speaker 2: like really what makes basketball great and a lot of
Speaker 2: social media at this point. Part of the reason why
Speaker 2: I'm off has been come purely based on what is
Speaker 2: going to get the most engagement exactly.
Speaker 1: That's what gets me is I'm like, all right, like
Speaker 1: when yeah, it's just frustrating, man, Like.
Speaker 2: If you believed it, cool, great, awesome, Let's have.
Speaker 1: The transparently are just saying ship yeah, justify the eight
Speaker 1: dollars a month or whatever. Anyway, I just had thank
Speaker 1: you for letting the event about that. Pat Bev hit
Speaker 1: dom dot Normals Live.
Speaker 2: You're a good listener of the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah he might. He's not doing much else well other
Speaker 1: than some certain things. All right, that wraps it up.
Speaker 1: I'm We're gonna do a Happy Hour stream on Friday,
Speaker 1: Joseph're obviously you're welcome to gum.
Speaker 2: When when am I officially a member of Clips and Dip?
Speaker 2: That's well, man, how many episodes in a week. Do
Speaker 2: I have to get on there?
Speaker 1: Well, we usually do too. So once you make a
Speaker 1: dip for an off season episode, because we do dips
Speaker 1: in the office, why we're gonna do a Friday night
Speaker 1: happy hour five point thirty. Uh, bring some drinks, it
Speaker 1: should be a good time. I also am plugging because
Speaker 1: someone actually did this. Oh, we're gonna do a full
Speaker 1: episode on Monday to talk the MAVs. Okay, see back
Speaker 1: to back. So we got some good stuff coming for
Speaker 1: y'all if we mentioned this on the last episode. If
Speaker 1: you write a five hundred word no AI essay on
Speaker 1: the Clippers twenty five twenty sixth season, you will get
Speaker 1: a prize from the Rising Tides collection, which is a
Speaker 1: bunch of random stuff that we have that we got
Speaker 1: sent to us, which includes four Norm Powell playoff shirts,
Speaker 1: two inaugural game compasses, two Clippers basketball shoe bags, one
Speaker 1: Clippers lunch pail, and one into it nomhat right NASA.
Speaker 1: Send it to Shavings dot Podcast at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: I will read it because we already got one and
Speaker 1: it's amazing. I will read it and you will get
Speaker 1: a prize, and we'll make all of them public at
Speaker 1: the end of the year.
Speaker 2: Can I say something to I gave you your your soapbox.
Speaker 2: Can I can I take the soapbox for a second?
Speaker 7: Okay, Okay, So here's the deal.
Speaker 1: If use the ship talk on the essay thing, I'm
Speaker 1: actually gonna cut your mic off.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's you. You put out the rules. The
Speaker 2: essay thing is fantastic. So let me let me maybe modify. Yeah,
Speaker 2: no one else right, so that dom can.
Speaker 1: We're not sending all of those things to one person.
Speaker 2: I am sending all of those.
Speaker 1: So here's the thing to send. So we have one
Speaker 1: essay already, and then we will randomly select stuff for
Speaker 1: the other nine that we get.
Speaker 2: I will modify my approach here we want to hear
Speaker 2: as a member of CLIPS and did your voice okay.
Speaker 2: Something that has bothered me, hold on. Something that has
Speaker 2: bothered me for a long time is the use of
Speaker 2: AI to make everyone sound homogeneous, or to pretend like.
Speaker 1: They sound like we're doing no AI. Yeah, like I
Speaker 1: checked this multiple my soapbox is you got seconds.
Speaker 9: I don't care how grammatically correct you are. I don't
Speaker 9: care how like. What you're great in English was be
Speaker 9: strong in your voice, because.
Speaker 2: Making it to where you are presenting something that isn't
Speaker 2: you is actually robbing you of an opportunity to express
Speaker 2: yourself appropriately. I feel very passionate about this, As I
Speaker 2: tell you, I got a huge thing at worked today
Speaker 2: about AI. Do not use it to mask yourself. If
Speaker 2: you want to use AI to like learn things, or
Speaker 2: to synthesize data or do all that, that's fine whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't care. But when it comes to writing, be you,
Speaker 2: because what we all want is to hear what you
Speaker 2: have to say.
Speaker 1: Especially about the Clippers twenty five to twenty sixth season.
Speaker 1: It's been insane, very weird. I'm going to read an
Speaker 1: excerpt from the essay that we got, and then we're
Speaker 1: going to send everyone on their way to be stressed
Speaker 1: out about the game tomorrow. This excerpt is wonderful. Da
Speaker 1: da da da data. This was right after the team
Speaker 1: was six and twenty one. Tyler went to the podium
Speaker 1: and laid out the goal for the rest of the season,
Speaker 1: thirty five and twenty. The NBA community collectively laughed. A
Speaker 1: six and twenty one team going thirty five and twenty
Speaker 1: to close the season had never happened before. It would
Speaker 1: be quite literally historic that same night, a gentleman with
Speaker 1: the Twitter handle of rich Homie Flom would etch his
Speaker 1: name in the laurels of Clippers history. If they go
Speaker 1: fifteen to three in any stretch this season, I will
Speaker 1: print and eat this tweet. A couple beers in after
Speaker 1: watching another Clipper victory, I toy with the idea of
Speaker 1: getting this tattooed. Little did mister rich HOLMEI know, but
Speaker 1: this tweet would become the battle cry for the biggest
Speaker 1: turnaround in NBA history. Send us that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: maybees one hundred words at least, and you will get
Speaker 1: a gift from the Rising Tides collection. Thank you for
Speaker 1: everyone for hanging out. Here's to a win tomorrow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a strong performance tomorrow at the very Yeah, Joseph I
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on, and we will be back
Speaker 1: on Friday at five point thirty. Bring your drinks because
Speaker 1: I have this feeling we're gonna need them. If you're
Speaker 1: listening to this recording because you missed it, check us
Speaker 1: out on YouTube at YouTube dot com. Sat Clippers Podcast.
Speaker 1: Thank you for looking at my kitchen. If you watch
Speaker 1: the stream, this is Kitchen Hour with with Joseph and Chuck.
Speaker 2: Evidently we have time these perfectly. I am finished with
Speaker 2: the meal, by the way I go.
Speaker 1: You can send your essay to Shavings dot Podcast at
Speaker 1: gmail dot com and I will read it and make
Speaker 1: Adam and we'll read it as well. All right, have
Speaker 1: a good night everybody, and as always, let's go close.
Speaker 2: Miss you guys.