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Speaker 1: The following presentation is Del Marvis Studio's production. You're listening

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to the Fact Hunter Radio Network. Here is your host

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s George Hobbs.

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Speaker 2: A guest with us today, is not a stranger to

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the podcast. His name is Justin, formerly of Florida and

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now Justin and his family are enjoying life in Michigan.

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And we've had him on a few times and he

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is very knowledgeable in biblical aspects. But today we're going

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to talk about something a little bit different. And obviously

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we're going to touch on many ideals as we always do,

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but today we're going to talk about true Israel. It's

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something that he's passionate about. We've had some emails back

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and forth, I guess over the last probably six months,

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and we're finally able to get him scheduled as things

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are settling in for him. And I think you're going

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to find this a very informative and a very interesting topic.

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And as we were talking beforehand, justin some of the

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these topics a lot of people find interesting until maybe

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some people realize it changes their traditions or the way

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they go about life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the question about true Israel is extremely

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pertinent to our generation simply because of the fact there

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is an actual physical fleshly carnal, Israel, temporal, whatever word

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whatever you know asynonymous word you want to use on

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the earth. That causes people to interpret the scriptures based

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upon their sight instead of by their faith and by

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the knowledge and wisdom of men, instead of by the

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understanding and the interpretation given by scriptures. And this is

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extremely important because what's foundational to us is who is

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Jesus Christ? And the simple answer when we talk about

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what is Israel is actually the wrong way to ask

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the question, because when men go to scripture and we

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ask the question like Pilot did, what is truth, we

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are asking from the knowledge and wisdom and understanding of men,

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because men are always looking for what. When God gives

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the answer to the question, which is who is truth?

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And the answer in John fourteen six is obviously I

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Am the truth. So Pilot, with his worldview paradigm always

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centered on the carnal and the physical and the flesh,

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is looking for what where we as men are always

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to look for who. So the reason it's very important

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to our generation today is it's always been important, but

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it actually wasn't even a debated topic in the Early Church,

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which a lot of people don't realize that the early

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Church leaders knew for a fact who true Israel is.

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And I say that intentionally, it's not what Israel is.

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It's truo because Israel the word Israel, which is the

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name given unto Jacob by the Angel of the Lord.

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Who is Israel, Who is Christ, Jesus our King, is

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the one who wrestles with power. The one who wrestled

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with power is Christ. Christ is the true and faithful

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Israel of God, not according to the flesh, but according

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to the Spirit. And therefore all men throughout all time

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who have ever from Adam to the last Man, from

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Genesis one to Revelation twenty two, any individual throughout all

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time who has ever had faith in God is a

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true Israelite and also a true Jew. And these are

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designations that when we start to acknowledge this is going

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to make enemies of the modern Christian Church and the

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modern secular world, because the modern secular world has the

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Israel that they want, and the modern secular world and

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Christianity has the Jews that they want, not the Israel

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of God. As Glacians six fifteen teaches us, or the

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true Jews, according to scriptures, as Romans two twenty eight

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through twenty nine teaches us, the Lord has declared who

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is a Jew, who is an Israelite? And the world

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has given an alternative which is false. And so why

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is this important? Because the foundation of our faith is

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based on who is Jesus Christ, and Jesus Christ, as

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First Corinthians one twenty four point thirty teaches us, is

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the wisdom of God. It's not that wisdom is this

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kind of abstract concept or idea that's up in our

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minds that we can't really grasp or hang on to.

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Scripture defines wisdom as a person, the person of Christ, Jesus.

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He is the wisdom of God. So it is important

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then when Scripture tells us in Proverbs one seven that

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the beginning of all knowledge is the fear of the Lord,

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but fools despise instruction, and then in Proverbs nine ten

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tells us that the beginning of all wisdom is the

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fear of the Lord, and knowledge of the Holy One

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is insight. This is very pertinent because what the scripture

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is telling me is I can't even begin to have

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Jesus Christ, who is the knowledge and wisdom of God,

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as Colossians two two through five teaches us, I can't

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even begin to have him unless I have the fear

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of the Lord. And the fear of the Lord is

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no longer rightly and correctly preached in modern Christianity today,

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as Isaiah twenty nine, verse thirteen teaches us, that it's

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instead taught as a tradition of men, not as the

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scripture teaches us, which means dread, like the actual concept

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of dread. Instead, you get modern day Christianity, which will

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try to tell you and its reverence, awe, worship. Now

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these things do fall under the definition, but it also

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means fear, terror, and truly abominable. Teaching will actually try

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to switch the word fear in the scripture to love.

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They'll try to sit here. I've heard men on podcasts,

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heard men on YouTube videos and standing at the pulpit

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sitting here and saying is that the concept of the

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fear of the Lord is just another way and saying

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love the Lord. That's a godless lie. It's abominable, it's

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self destructive. And if we start falling into these things,

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we get into this situation where I've been with men

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who have straight up told me. I've had multiple men

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tell me this, and it's very interesting because each one

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of them told me I've been a Christian for forty years.

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Another one told me I've been a Christian for forty

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two years. For some reason, I don't know why. The

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forty was in with both of these men, but when

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I took them to the scripture and engage them on

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the fear of the Lord, they told me I've been

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a Christian for forty years. The other one said for

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forty two years. And they both stated and I have

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never feared God. And one of them even went so

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far as to say that you are preaching a lie

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from the devil when you say to fear the Lord.

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The other one said, why should I fear the Lord?

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He's my shepherd, And if I'm a sheep who's going astray, well,

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the shepherd's just going to come out and break my

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legs and drag me back. And I just looked at him,

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and I just had this incredulous look on my face,

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like you wouldn't fear someone who's going to track you

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down and break your legs. I would be terrified of

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somebody who's going to come and break my legs and

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drag me back. I mean, albeit for my good, but

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there is an authority there and a power over me

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that I should tremble at and again. So why then,

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how then does the fear of the Lord be in

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the beginning of all knowledge or wisdom? Tie in with

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this lie that has been permeated both in the modern

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Church and in the secular world, that Israel is instead

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this geographical location and on a map with borders that

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can be mapped out, and has pocket cities and the

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temple mounts, and it's the dirt that is holy. It's

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this spot in the world that men are killing each

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other over because it's the most holy land in all

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the world. Why is it important that we truly understand

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that Israel is the believer who has submitted himself to

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Jesus Christ as Lord. Because Jesus Christ is the Israel

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of God, and therefore all who are in Him are

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of Israel, and are Israelites in Him, from Adam to

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the last man, anyone who came before Christ who believed

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in the salvation given through God, and anyone who came

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after him. The modern Church tears this down by creating

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replacement theology and dispensational theology and saying you have to

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be in one of these two camps. Both of them

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are godless lies. And we can get into that later.

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How replacement theology is not true. Dispensational theology, he is

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not true. What it is is all people who have

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ever been living by faith have always been Christians, have

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always been Israelites, have always been Jews, according to the Spirit.

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And what these lies are doing is they are taking

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away the fear of God from modern Christians. Because modern

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Christians love to heap on ourselves all of the blessings

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that the Old Testament he gives unto Israel through God.

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The very simplest one of his Old Testament clarifies that

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God is the savior of Israel. Well, if he is

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my savior today, I should take note of this. He's

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the savior of Israel, but he's also my savior today.

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So I will take, and I will adopt and graft

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on to myself all of these blessings. But because the

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modern Church doesn't want us to fear God, what they

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won't teach us is to take also the curses that

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were given unto Israel. Instead, they will say those no

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longer belong to you, that was dispensational, only to Cardinal

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Israel that was dispensational onto those people, or replacement. We

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have gained the gifts. But now these these no longer

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excuse me, these curses no longer apply to us. And

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yet Romans eleven twenty twenty through twenty three tells us

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that we are to be mindful of the kindness and

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the severity of God always. I cannot hold to the

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love of God without the fear of God, and I

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cannot hold to the fear of God without the love

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of God. I must find them both united in the

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person of Jesus Christ. And if I don't believe that

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the curses that belong to Israel apply unto me as well,

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all of the curses, all of the statements, all of

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the commands given in Torah, all of you know the

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five Books of Moses, where if you go through the

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Book of Numbers, and the Lord says to me, Moses say,

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under the people of Israel. If I don't recognize that

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the Lord is speaking not only to the people that

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were contemporary to Moses at that time, but also to

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me who lives today because I am an Israelite, then

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I will not fear God, because what is there to fear?

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If there is no curse, if there is no wrath,

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if there is nothing that can separate me from the

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love of God. Now, I don't get me wrong, Romans

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eight teaches us nothing external can do this. And this

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is where what you get is when you build this

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lie that Jesus Christ is not the Israel of God,

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you just stack heresies on top of it over and

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over again, because once you don't need to fear God,

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you once saved, always saved. There's the black Hebrew Israelites,

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there's the white Hebrew Israelites. There's all name name heresy

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after heresy. They are all built on this solid foundation

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of denying who Jesus Christ, excuse me, not solid on

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the shifting foundation of men denying who Christ is as Israel.

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Speaker 2: Amen, and you've really laid a great synopsis for what

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we're going to be talking about. But before we get

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into it, tell people, I don't want to assume everybody's

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heard you on here before. For somebody who me listening

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to you for the first time, what motivated you to

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get into the book and what led you into the

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journey with Israel? Because we know, the word Israel means

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one who strives with God. And then we'll talk about

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the history, whether it's eighteen ninety seven the world's Zionist organization, Schofield, Darby,

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And obviously I think the person behind it is Satan

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himself to get people to believe that it's a geographical

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type of environment. And who now, whether it's Baptists, most Baptists,

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most Methodists. You look at the churches across America, you know,

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we should be asking the question for those people who

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are living and within them borders, we should be encouraging

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them to find Christ. There is just so much lost,

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so much loss. What what's the word I'm looking for here?

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Meaning theology, I guess is probably the correct word to

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understand the direction that the you know, the direction of

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the quote unquote church here in the United States today.

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But most foremost, what led you down this this uh,

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this journey.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, let I'll answer that, but I want to

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just go off of what you were saying to take

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it to the practical, the practical use in our modern

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day is you have because of this false understanding of Israel,

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you have men standing divided against one another, murdering one another,

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in the name of fighting over a holy land, believing

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that that holy land is is separate unto them each individually.

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Where what scriptures tell us is it is those men

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who are killing one another who are the holy land

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of God, whether they be Palestinian or whether they be Israelite.

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According to the flesh, they're killing each other over dirt

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and over a location. When God says, I have given

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the earth unto you who are my dwelling, you who

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are my Israel, I have given this land for your sake.

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It is not that the dirt they are fighting over

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is important to God. It is the men who are

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killing one another who are important to God. But we

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are so twisted in our understanding. We are killing each

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other over this dirt. We are bombing each other. We

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are sitting here and we are looking at one another

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and dividing in fellowship over do you support Palestine or

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do you support Israel? Are you for Israel? My question

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to people when they ask me, or when they ask

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me that is said, do you stand with Israel? And

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I ask who is Israel? Because the answer to their

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question without any sort of in depth discussion is yes,

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I stand and I am for Jesus Christ, who is

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the Israel of God. But if you are talking about,

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am I standing on the side of a nation of

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men who are wrongly dividing the scriptures and who are

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using it as a baseline to set themselves apart from others,

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where God says he has no partiality, meaning the Palestinian

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that they're attacking is just as important to them, or

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excuse me, just as important to God as they are.

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And the Israelite who the Palestinian is attacking, is just

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as important to God as one another. But we are

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dividing and separating and hating one another over these false paradigms,

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over this false tradition, and it's leading to men killing

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each other in the name of a unholy lie. This

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kingdom on earth is not the kingdom of God. Jesus

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Christ is the Kingdom of God. This is the basis.

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And this so you asked, where did this all begin?

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The fear of the Lord was something even before I

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knew Christ. I used to be, you know, a nominal

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Christian upbringing. My mom would take me to church here

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and there. My grandpa was a pastor. If I would

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go to his house over the weekends, I would go

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to church on Sunday, but I'd either sleep in the

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pew or I'd stare at the floor. I would not

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pay attention. And I was a huge fan of fantasy,

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and I think we talked about this before on one

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of the past podcasts. I would I loved the Book

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of Revelation because it had dragons and monsters and the apocalypse,

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the end of the world, you know, the destruction of all.

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I loved it because there was death, murder and destruction

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in it, because my heart was twisted and corrupted, and

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it had all the fantasy elements I wanted. And there

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was something that I read which was fear the Lord

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your God because he is righteous. That I remember when

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I was secular, and I did not it did not

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really have a relationship with Christ, and it wasn't following him.

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I was like, why should I fear God because he's righteous?

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And I just kind of left it at that. I

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was like, oh, that doesn't make any sense. Well, again,

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there's the bagging of the question, why should I fear

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God if he is righteous? The answer is very simple,

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because I'm unrighteous. And I did not put two and

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two together on that until I grew older and until

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the Lord started working in me and drawing me to

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a knowledge of the truth and breaking down all of

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the foundations I built up for myself where I wanted

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to be my own God. I wanted to I wanted

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to be the power in my own life, and I

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was destroying myself. And then I started reading the Word

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only for the intent to argue with some of my

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atheist friends about how there were misunderstanding the scripture. And

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I started to see how the the word of the

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Lord was true, how everything that he was speaking was

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true and true, especially when it related unto me as

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a man, where I had been building myself up in

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pride and ego and saying this is who I am.

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I'm powerful, I'm strong, I'm my own God. I have

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all of this knowledge, all this wisdom. Every Proverbs especially

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was very revelatory because I was reading through Proverbs, and

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Proverbs is a is a dichonomoist book that juxtaposes the

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wicked versus the just, the unrighteous versus the unrighteous, the

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godly versus the ungodly, And I was reading through this

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book the wise versus the fool, the slough versus the

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one who takes action, and I kept reading through it,

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and as I'm reading through it, I'm like, man, I'm

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like doing a checklist of like all my marks are

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on the side of the evil. I'm the one who's ungodly.

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I'm the one who's unrighteous. I'm the one who's wicked.

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I'm the one who's slowful. And I was like, this

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isn't good. Something's wrong here. And the Lord through the revelation,

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especially in the Sermon on the Mount. I think it's

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in Matthew five or six when he says, you've heard

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it said that she'll not commit adultery. But I tell you,

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anyone who has even looked on a woman with lust

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has already committed adultery with her in his heart. And

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that clicked and it was like a dam blowing up

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in my head and all the water rushing out, no

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longer restrained. And I was like, that is true. Yep.

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I know for a fact in application practical application to

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my life for everything I was doing telling myself I'm

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a good man. I've never cheated on the woman that

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I'm with. I was cheating all the time I was

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setting up and establishing a relationships with other women before

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I broke off with the previous woman I was with,

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and then as soon as I would be tired of her,

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I'd go off and move on to another one. But

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I'd tell myself, oh, I broke up with her before

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I cheated on her, before I slept with this other woman.

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I was already cheating on her in my heart. I

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had already destroyed what was previously built, the foundation I

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had previously had to try and lay a new foundation relationship,

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and therefore I was destroying what had come before. But

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I was lying to myself. I was deceiving myself. So

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the more we went through this, the more I started.

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I just started imbibing the scripture, eating it, taking it

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in as the scripture says, to literally consume it like

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excuse not literally spiritually consume the word, as though it

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is food for my soul, because there is carnal food

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that feeds my flesh, and then there is the bread

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of life, and the wine and the water which comes

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all again, as John six teaches us, is Christ. And

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I'm consuming this scripture. And then I go to Jeremiah seventeen.

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We'll go there with you quick, because it was very

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revelatory to me. Excuse me in the way that the

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Lord describes us. So it says this, starting in Jeremiah seventeen,

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verse five, We're gonna go five through eight. It says,

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this is what the Lord says. Cursed is the person

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who trusts in man. He makes human flesh his strength,

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and his heart turns from the Lord. He will be

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like a juniper in the Araba. He cannot see when

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good comes, but dwells in the parts places in the wilderness,

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in as salt land where no one lives. The person,

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or excuse me, blessed is he who trusts in the Lord,

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whose trust is the Lord who's excuse me, he will

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be like a tree planted by water. It sends its

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roots out toward a stream. It doesn't fear heat when

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heat comes, and its foliage remains green. It will not

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worry in a year of drought or cease producing fruit.

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me that not only is God the giver, he is

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also the gift. And then you go to Second Corinthians,

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chapter one, verse nineteen through twenty, and it says that

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all of God's promises are yes and amen in Jesus Christ.

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reading the scripture along with John six sixty three, when

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the Lord says that he speaks to us in spirit,

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and it is the spirit who gives life, that all

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of what he says to us is spiritual. The teaching

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that he gives in Isaiah twenty eight, then how he

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teaches Isaiah fifty four to thirteen that he is God

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who is our teacher. Then go to go to and

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go to the parable of the Solar throughout the Synoptic Gospels,

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where he teaches us the very first lesson of how

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to interpret the scriptures. And because the scriptures tell us

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that Christ spoke nothing to men that was not in parables,

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which means if Christ, who is the Holy Spirit, who

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is the author of all the scripture, every aspect of

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scripture is spoken in parable, which is another way of

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saying spoken with spiritual interpretation necessary, which First Corinthians chapter

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two teaches us, but Second Corinthians gives us the understanding

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in in chapter one, verses nineteen through twenty, which tells

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us that all of God's promises are yes and nay

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men in Jesus Christ. So when I'm told that God

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is going to give me the ability to trust him. Well,

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not only is he going to give me the ability

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to trust, the very trust he gives me is the

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person of Christ. The very hope that he gives me

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is Christ. The very faith that he gives me is Christ.

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The very land promise that he gives me is Christ.

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The very city promise he gives me is Christ. The

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kingdom promise is Christ. So whenever I have to define

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something in scripture, is well, what if like men ask me, well,

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what's the kingdom of God? The Kingdom of God is

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Jesus Christ and all who dwell within him and in

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whom He dwells. And that can be okay? So I

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make this claim. Can I make this claim and actually

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uphold it per the scripture? Absolutely? We can go to

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second Peter or is it first Peter. It's one of

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the Peters. Let me check really quick. I always forget

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if it's first Peter one or first Peter two or sick, oh,

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it's first Peter two. So if we go to first

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Peter two, starting in verse four, I'll start in verse one.

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It states, therefore rid yourselves of all malice, all deceit, hypocrisy, envy,

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and all slander. Like newborn infants, desire the pure milk

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of the Word, so that you may grow up into

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your salvation. If you have tasted that, the Lord is

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good as you come to him a living stone. So

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again Christ here is being spiritually presented as a living stone.

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and Second Corinthians. Is that especially in First Corinthians nine

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versus nine, he says, we teach you spiritual things, and

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he gives us the deuderonical husbandry law about not tethering

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an oxen when it's plowing out the grain, and he

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says to us, is God concerned about the the oxen? No,

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this is written for your sake. And then again later

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in either one Timothy one or Titus one, I can't remember,

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he says the same exact thing, and he applies it

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with Christ's teachings from the Snoptic Gospel about those who

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preach the gospel are deserving of their wages, because the

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ox in that image, in that parable is us who

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plow the field, which one Corinthians three nine tells us,

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you men, I men are God's field and God's building.

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But what we do in our carnal understanding is we

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read this about this heavenly Jerusalem. We read this about

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this Israel, and we start applying it to what we

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see with our eyes. We walk by We walk by

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sight and not by faith, because that's what we've been taught. Well,

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if the scriptures talking about Israel, it has to be

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talking about this land mass in the Middle East. If

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it's talking about a heavenly Jerusalem, you're actually going to

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see this golden brick building come out of the sky

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on the clouds at some point in time because they

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don't recognize that the scripture is telling you you are

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the heavenly Jerusalem. If Christ dwells within you, the very

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city that you are is just what Jeremiah chapter one

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tells you. I have made you a city. He gives

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us this interpretation throughout all the scriptures. He's telling us

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stop looking externally and start looking at what Christ is doing.

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He's going to dwell in the heavenly Jerusalem. His throne

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is in the heavenly Jerusalem. Ephesians chapter three, verse seventeen

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tells me that Christ is dwelling in your heart. Tewod.

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Corinthians chapter six tells me that God will dwell in me.

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So then when I'm reading all of this spiritual imagery

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and revelation, I'm reading all these visions, it's baffling. I

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know why it happens. I know why it happens, and

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we can get to that if you want. It's because

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as Amos eight eleven tells us that there is a

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famine that has come upon the entire world, not a

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famine of food or of drink, but of hearing, of

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hearing the word of the Lord. Yeah, exactly. Men are

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reading the scriptures and misinterpreting it because, as Isaiah twenty

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nine teaches us, they draw near to the Lord with

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their mouth, or as other interpretations say, they flatter the

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Lord with their mouth, but their hearts are far from them,

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and the commandment to fear God is taught to them

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by men instead of God.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you hit it, You really hit the nail

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on the head earlier Galatians three twenty eight. Whether Jew

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or gentile, slave or free, you are all one in Christ.

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and it's that's Paul's Epistle to the Galatians. So you

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can't even argue old covenant stuff here. It's just it's

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it's you know, and again I was all part of

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that before, kind of waking up and understanding the manipulation

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of the church and how long of an effort it's been. Right,

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we were all there. But right now, with all the

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technology and everything after COVID, I start to get a

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little frustrated to see, like, how can you not see

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this intentional? And for me, right the reason I'm doing

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what I'm doing now locally is there's a huge amount

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of the population who don't even understand what repentance means.

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Right in the seventies, Billy Graham, one of the things

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he did was if you say these matches and listen.

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I'm not speaking for it was in Billy Graham's heart,

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but there was this thing with the sinner's prayer where

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you say these words and you're free to go back

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to living your own way and God, God, I tell people,

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God's not a genie. You don't say words and then

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you're you're free. Repentance. I've done entire podcasts and teachings

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on just the word repentance and what it means and

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to turn away from sin, and then you know, discipleship

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goes hand in hand with that, and those are the

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two keys that most of the churches have fallen away from.

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Speaker 1: And you know, and again I'm not here to disparage

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anyone with you as well. And this isn't a study

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on whether or not Billy Grammars say. But like when

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you hear that, because if you continued reading. In Jeremiah seventeen,

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the very next verse and verse nine tells us and

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the heart is deceitful and wicked above all things who

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can know it. But then it goes on to say

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that I am the Lord who judges and studies the heart.

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And then the scriptures and the Synoptic Gospel Christ tells

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us out of the abundance of the heart, the mouse speaks,

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so bear fruit or exersusly. It's in the passage, in

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the one of the passages. I think it's I just

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read it yesterday. It was in Matthew. I think I'm

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gonna butcher it. It might be Matthew twelve, where it says

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bear fruit the good tree bears. Oh my gosh, ma'am

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out of the abundance the heart, the mouse speaks, the

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good man out of the goodness stored up in this heart,

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and the evil man out of the evil stored up

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up in his heart. And then he says in Matthew seven,

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you will know them by their fruit, the fruit of

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what lips that either give praise an honor unto his name,

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or lips and predicted praising honor unto men. This is

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this is what the modern church teaches. If you read,

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if you listen to modern Christian songs, it's always I, I,

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I you you you me me me. It's always individually based.

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If you listen to modern sermons, it's always about like

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what Christ is doing for you, what God has sees

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in me? What Christ? It's all it's it's literally, it's

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what's his name in the matrix? Uh agent Smith? Agent Smith?

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When he comes back and and I don't even know why

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I'm going this, but it is when uh Neil looks

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Atim and says you and his answer is me, me, me, me. Literally,

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it's modern Christianity is all about me. Yeah, because it's

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anti Christ.

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Speaker 2: It is Anticho. And it's funny. You could almost take

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Kennedy's speech and twist it around. Right, don't ask what

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God can do for you, but what can you do

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for God? Right?

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Speaker 1: Exactly? And this is why again, this is so important

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because when it comes to understanding that Israel is Jesus Christ,

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that Jesus Christ is the Israel who satisfied and fulfilled

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all of what Karnal Israel failed, just as it talks

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about in the prophet Isaiah that there was an Israel

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that was unfaithful, and then God was going to bring

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about in Israel that is faithful. That Israel is Jesus.

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The Kingdom is Jesus Christ, and it is his scripture.

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Why because all of scripture testifies of him and is

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written by Him who is the Holy Spirit. So you

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are not going to find anything in here that does

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not pertain to Christ and who he is and who

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we are not. And this understanding takes us out of

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this coveteous warfare that has overcome the world, with this

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desire for more gain. That we are therefore killing what

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is actually precious to God and murdering what is precious

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to God for that which is not precious to Him.

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And we're calling that which is common holy, in that

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which is in that which is holy common. We are

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doing exactly what the scripture tells us not to do.

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When we are looking at men and we are dividing

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them into groups. The entire Book of Acts is about this, so,

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I mean, there's so many everywhere in the scripture. All

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the scripture testifies that the sojourner who enters into Israel

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and chooses to abide with Israel and live by the

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law of God, not, of course, the law of Moses,

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be mindful the law of God, which is law of liberty.

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The law of the Spirit is Romans eight teaches us

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is grafted into Israel, there is one law for them.

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They are one nation. With them, they are they are

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grafted into the tribes of Israel. They become a part

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of the people of Israel, regardless of their heritage. I've

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had this discussion with so many men, including Hebrew Israelites,

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and they literally I had one man try to go

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to the Book of Ruth with me and debate to

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me that it is only the bloodlines of isl that

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are saved because of what God did for Mordecai to

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battle against Himen and excuse me, ask ast, excuse me,

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you know how. I can't remember what his example was

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from the Book of Ruth. I think it might have

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been the Kinsman Redeemer, because he's our kinsman by our

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blood and I looked at him. I'm like, the Book

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of Ruth is literally about a gentile claiming to Naomi,

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your God is my God. I'm going to go with

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you and live with you among your people, and being

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grafted in by Boaz by marriage unto him. Yeah, and

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being redeemed by him as a kinsman redeemer though she

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has no actual bloodline relation to him. She was married

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to a member of his family who passed. And then

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she ends up in the bloodline of the Savior.

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Speaker 2: Yep. And that amazing. And what people miss the most

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about the Book of Ruth is the ultimate redemption story

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because you know, the very first sentence of Ruth is

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in the time of the Judges, and that sets how

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awful it was the you know, the Israel at that

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time was the lowest morale. Every time there was a

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new judge, that got more and more debouchcher.

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Speaker 1: What was right in their eyes of their own heart.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And then this story comes about. It's a

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lot of people miss that, but I'll tell you what.

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You know, it's interesting how everything is twisted and perverted.

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And again this is coming from a guy who served

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twenty four years in the army, but going back to

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your sermon on the mouth the Beatitudes, Matthew five nine

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says that blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be

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called children of God. And what what does the men

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in suits tell us we are going to bring peace

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through war? And we buy off on all of these things, right,

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We're we're bringing we're free in Iraq. And I'm standing

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there watching, you know, Moab five hundred pound drops being

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bombs being dropped on cities, and it's it's I don't

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know if it's we're so easily manipulated over all these

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years that Satan is able to control our minds through

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the television in the radio and TV, or we just

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want to be comfortable with our actions, so we just

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go along with it.

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Speaker 1: We go along with it because it again puts us

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at the center stage. It's about us, because again you

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praise me to God, you went there, and the peacemakers

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will be called the children of God. Well, Ephesians two

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fourteen tells us that he himself, Christ, Jesus, is our peace.

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It's and if you go so, if I'm being a peacemaker,

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what then is that actually me doing it means I

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am birthing Christ into other men through the seed of

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the Word of God which comes out of my mouth

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and into them and spiritually then because by the overshadowing

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of the Holy Spirit, just as it did with Mary.

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Because Mary is the Mary is the feminine word. Excuse me,

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the feminine etymology for that in the Hebrew is beloved

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is the feminine version of the word beloved, just as

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David is the male Hebrew version of the word beloved.

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Mary is an image of the Church. She's not a

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co redemntric. She's not a queen of Heaven or any

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of this godless Catholic lie in heresy. She is an

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image of the Church. And how Christ Jesus is born

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in among us when the speed, when the seed of

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the Word of God is planted into our hearts and

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then springs up in the soil, because remember we are

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God's field. When that tree of life, which is Christ,

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springs up within our hearts and dwells within us, and

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the fruit it is born, the fruit of the Spirit

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that is born. If you go to the if you

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go to Revelation chapter twenty one or twenty two, where

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it where it shows the tree of Life springing up

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on either side of the throne, out of which the

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river dwells, and all the fruit on either side. You

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can find that in Zechariah, I believe it is. Don't

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quote me, Oh no, it's Ezekiel. It's an Ezekiel where

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the image of the of the New Temple. It's where

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the new Temple is you can see. But's it's spoken

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of in the New Temple. Of many trees instead of

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one tree tree, because again many trees bearing fruit, which

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is all of us, as you quoted earlier, there is

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no longer free or slave, male or female, but all

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are one in Christ Jesus, because all of these trees

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are united in one tree, which is Christ, who dwells

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within you, sitting upon the throne of the heart, entering

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into the mind of a Christian and casting the devil

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out of heaven, as Revelation twelve says, because he is

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the true Michael. The Michael is who is It's always

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Michael and Gabriel. I always get mixed up. Is one

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is the man of God, the other one is who

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is like God. I think Michael is who is like God,

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But Christ is Michael. And I want to be very

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clear when I say this, that doesn't mean that Michael

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or Christ is a created being, like so many heresies

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go with he are the first and greatest of all

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of God's creation. What I mean is the title Michael

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is a pseudonym to hide Jesus Christ from those who

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are not seeking him in the scripture, but for those

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who are looking for him will find him, because the

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glory that is given unto Michael in the scripture should

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only ever pertain to Christ, should only ever be given

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to the Prince of princes, King of kings, and Lord

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of lords, and God of God's He who is greatest

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among all, who is Christ. And so sorry, I kind

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of got off on a tangent there, because this is

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this is so that, it's all these heresies are weaved,

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weave together to try and pull men away all again

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from They don't recognize the truth that Christ, Jesus is Israel.

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And that's why when he gives the name to Jacob,

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and Jacob's response to him is what is your name?

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He looks at him incredulously and says, why do you

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ask my name? He just gave him his name. When

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the Angel is standing there with him, after having wrestled

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with him, he gives him his name. He sets his

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name upon him, which praise be to God. Because in

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Revelation chapter two, when he's talking to the churches, he

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gives us his name Aim. He who is Israel, he

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who is one with us will he will dwell in us,

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and we in him, and he in the Father, and

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the Father in him, we will all be. They will

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be one, as you and I are one. Father. He

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is not separating us from him, He's drawing us into him.

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Men divide, Christ unites in himself. And again, praise God

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that you went there when you spoke truth. That peacemakers

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will be the children of God, because we are those

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who are to speak peace unto others. And it says

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in the Book of James at Sorry, let me find

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it in chapter three, starting verse thirteen, it says, this,

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who among you is wise and understanding by his good conduct,

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he should show his work. His works are done in

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the gentleness that comes from wisdom. Again, wisdom is not

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the smarts and the understanding of justin Ellenbass. First Corinthians

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chapter one, verse twenty four and thirty tells us that

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Jesus Christ is the wisdom of God. So what it's

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saying here in scripture is that gentleness that comes from Christ.

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But if you have bitter envy and selfish ambition in

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your heart, don't boast and deny the truth. Again, who

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is the truth is? It's repeatedly saying, don't deny Christ.

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You get the wisdom of God is Jesus Christ. Find him.

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Such wisdom who is Christ does not come down or

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excuse me. This is speaking of the earthly wisdom. Such

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wisdom does not come down from above, but is earthly

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on spiritual demonic. For where there is envy and selfish ambition,

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there is disorder and every evil practice. But the wisdom

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who is Christ from above is first pure than peace loving, gentle, compliant,

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full of mercy and good fruits, on wavering without pretense,

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and the fruit of righteousness. This is sown in peace.

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Jesus two fourteen again tells us that he himself is

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our peace. So all this is sown in Jesus Christ

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by those who cultivate peace, or as other translations say,

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are peacemakers, Which will then take us to Ephesians chapter two,

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starting in verse eleven. Everyone loves verses eight through nine

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because it's an incredible passage that we are the handiwork

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of God, who are saved by grace through faith. But

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it doesn't stop there, it tells us in verse eleven.

713
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So then remember it that one time you were gentiles

714
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according to the flesh called the uncircumcised by those called

715
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the circumcised, which is done in the flesh by human hands.

716
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So again Paul is creating a distinction between spiritual and

717
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fleshy or carnal, depending on your translation, which way they

718
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say at temporal, fleshly, carnal worldly, there's the spiritual circumcision,

719
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and there's the and there is the fleshly circumcision. And

720
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he says, at that time you were without Christ, excluded

721
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:11,679
from the citizenship of Israel and foreigners to the covenants

722
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of promise, without hope, and without God in the world.

723
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But now in Christ Jesus, you who were far away,

724
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have been brought near by the blood of Christ. For

725
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he is our Peace, who made both groups one and

726
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,039
tore down the dividing wall of hostility. In his flesh,

727
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he made of no effect the law consisting of commands

728
00:42:34,199 --> 00:42:37,639
and expressed in regulations, so that he might create in

729
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himself one new man from two, resulting in peace He

730
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did this so that he might reconcile both to God

731
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,239
in one body. Through the cross by which he put

732
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the hostility to death. He came and proclaimed the good

733
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news of peace to you who were far away, and

734
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peace to those who were near. For through him we

735
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both have access us in one spirit to the Father.

736
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And then here's where it gets. Remember how it described

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us before. It says, at that time you were without Christ,

738
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excluded from the citizenship of Israel, and foreigners to the

739
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covenants of promise, without hoping, without God in the world.

740
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Now then it goes into Paul by the Holy sphere,

741
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goes into all that Christ did to draw us near

742
00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:24,239
to him. We who were far away he has brought

743
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:29,079
in to what So then you are no longer foreigners

744
00:43:29,119 --> 00:43:37,000
and strangers, yep, but fellow citizens, citizens of what Israel yep,

745
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:43,599
fedo citizens, and or excuse me, citizens with the saints

746
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and members of God's household. Built on the foundation of

747
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the apostles and the prophets. Again, there is no other found.

748
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First corinthis chapter three, verse eleven tells us there is

749
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no other foundation that can be laid than that which

750
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is laid, which is Christ, Jesus, the foundation of all

751
00:43:57,519 --> 00:44:00,480
the prophets and all the apostles is Christ, and all

752
00:44:00,559 --> 00:44:04,280
and the if they're themselves, are the foundation. Why because

753
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,599
all of them testify of Him many voices. It's just

754
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like when you see in Revelation chapter one, when the

755
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Holy Spirit which is being seen by John gives when

756
00:44:14,199 --> 00:44:17,159
he speaks, and he utters with a voice like many waters,

757
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the voice of many nations, the voice of many people,

758
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because all of them are one united in Him. When

759
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you and I, George, speak the scripture, when we speak

760
00:44:26,039 --> 00:44:28,480
the testimony of the Holy Spirit, the same Spirit that

761
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is in me speaks through you. And the same Christ

762
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,599
who dwells within me, dwells within you. And we speak

763
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as one voice, united in unison of our testimony of

764
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Him in what he has done. And He has drawn

765
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us all together in one built on the foundation of

766
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the apostles and the prophets. With Christ. Jesus himself is

767
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the cornerstone. In him, the whole building being put together

768
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:59,119
grows into a holy temple in the Lord. In Him,

769
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you are all also being built together for God's dwelling

770
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in the Spirit. Go again to Revelation. Where does God

771
00:45:06,519 --> 00:45:10,960
dwell in the bride Jerusalem? It comes down from heaven,

772
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who is the bride of Jesus Christ. Epheesians five tells

773
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:21,639
us we are, so we need to stop looking externally

774
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and start listening to our Lord in the way that

775
00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:28,320
he teaches us in John six sixty three, when he

776
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,800
says to you, or when he says to us, let

777
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me go there. So I don't butcher it because again

778
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,639
I don't want to speak as a man, but I

779
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want to let the Lord be the one that speaks.

780
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And this is after he teaches us the hardest lesson

781
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in all the scripture. We know this is the hardest

782
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and lesson all the scripture. And it's not unintentional that

783
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John six sixty six, six sixty six tells us that

784
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many who followed him stopped following him, which John and

785
00:45:54,679 --> 00:45:58,039
first John later tells us Anti Christ were among us

786
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and went out from us. This is a study we

787
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can do at another time if you ever want. But

788
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that's that's just again, this is the hardest lesson for

789
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,079
men to learn in scripture.

790
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Speaker 2: That's interesting. I'm not sure I remember even that flag

791
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,199
coming up John six to sixty six, that particular verse

792
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of what it means. That's a good case.

793
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Speaker 1: Oh, well, if you listen in Revelation again, when it

794
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,440
talks about the number of the beast, it says, this

795
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takes a mind of wisdom.

796
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,199
Speaker 2: Yep, it does.

797
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Speaker 1: First off, first, Corinthians chapter two tells us that we

798
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have two verse sixteen tells us we have the mind

799
00:46:31,039 --> 00:46:34,920
of Christ, and it tells us that Christ. Or in

800
00:46:35,079 --> 00:46:37,800
one Corinthians chapter one, verse twenty four thirty tells us

801
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,320
that Christ is wisdom. So if we need to interpret

802
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,960
the number of the beast, it is it is figuratively

803
00:46:45,039 --> 00:46:48,960
spiritually telling us it takes the mind of Jesus Christ

804
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:49,760
to understand that.

805
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 2: Amen, not to get too deep into eschatology, but do

806
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,199
you think that the revelation that John the Others letter

807
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,199
to Smart and Philadelphia two ninety three nine, do you

808
00:46:59,199 --> 00:47:03,519
think that is directly, you know, pointing at whether it's

809
00:47:03,599 --> 00:47:07,239
you know, May nineteen forty eight, or the physical you know,

810
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,480
building of Israel, or is it something else?

811
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 1: Now, the physical revelation is entirely a vision of what

812
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,360
happens to a Christian when, or to in man when

813
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,960
he comes to a knowledge of the faith in Jesus Christ,

814
00:47:23,199 --> 00:47:25,760
the work that the Lord does in him. When you

815
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,320
see all the bold judgments. When you see when you

816
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,679
see the seals being broken, and you see all this,

817
00:47:30,679 --> 00:47:34,880
This is what happens internally to a man, because the

818
00:47:35,039 --> 00:47:37,159
man himself is the new heavens and the new Earth

819
00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:40,159
that God is creating. He has created the new heavens

820
00:47:40,159 --> 00:47:43,880
by casting the enemy out. When in Revelation twelve, when

821
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,880
Michael and his angels, which Revelation twelve is very important

822
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,000
to this as well, when it comes to understanding Israel,

823
00:47:50,119 --> 00:47:52,880
we'll get there in a little bit. But all of

824
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Revelation takes place within the heart, in the mind of

825
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:00,199
a man, every single one of us. It is It

826
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is the discussion of God's creation, of the new being,

827
00:48:04,119 --> 00:48:07,079
of the image of Christ being born in men. Because again,

828
00:48:07,159 --> 00:48:09,599
what is the fulfillment the full end In Revelation twenty

829
00:48:09,639 --> 00:48:12,599
one and twenty two, when the New Jerusalem comes down,

830
00:48:13,039 --> 00:48:15,400
we can't look at this externally, We have to look

831
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at it internally. The New Jerusalem is the new mind

832
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:25,559
of Christ dwelling in a man. This is why men

833
00:48:25,559 --> 00:48:27,760
when they try to do the actual physical measurements of

834
00:48:28,119 --> 00:48:31,199
the city of the Heavenly Jerusalem, it's just this big

835
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,639
brick of gold, this big block of gold. It doesn't

836
00:48:33,639 --> 00:48:35,880
make sense. They don't have the right proportions. It's the

837
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,119
same thing when they try to do the measurement of

838
00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:40,719
the temple in Ezekiel. They can always get the foundation,

839
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,480
but they can't get the height. Because again it's pointing

840
00:48:43,559 --> 00:48:48,119
not to a physical structure in the world, but the

841
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:52,239
work that is being done in a Christian to change

842
00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:56,440
him to faith in Jesus Christ, and so that Christ

843
00:48:56,559 --> 00:48:59,119
may dwell in him. And that it's Galatians chapter two

844
00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:03,039
teaches us it is no longer I who live, but Christ,

845
00:49:03,119 --> 00:49:07,559
Jesus who lives in me. That is what it is.

846
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:10,440
It's supposed to be the formation of Christ within a man.

847
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:16,239
Irenaeus himself when he talks about the unjust judge being

848
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,880
an image of Antichrist, he talks about the unjust judge

849
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:25,079
with the widow being an image of carnal Israel, and

850
00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:28,920
how the unjust judge is actually the perpetrator of bringing

851
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,480
about a cardinal Israel. Because here's the thing, what is

852
00:49:31,519 --> 00:49:34,440
the enemy always trying to do. He is trying to deceive,

853
00:49:34,519 --> 00:49:38,000
and he is trying to mimic God and be like God,

854
00:49:38,079 --> 00:49:40,239
to be like the most High. So if Christ is

855
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,199
the Israel of God. He has to give men another Israel,

856
00:49:45,519 --> 00:49:50,920
another Israel to focus on, and Jews, according to the flesh,

857
00:49:51,119 --> 00:49:54,519
who deny Christ, deny his deity, deny that he is

858
00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:56,719
God with the Father, that he is God. The word

859
00:49:58,599 --> 00:50:03,599
need there Israel, and so he gave it back to them.

860
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,199
You need to only look at the star of David,

861
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,000
the star of rem fans. And again, which David. It's

862
00:50:10,039 --> 00:50:12,119
not the David that we all think. It is a

863
00:50:12,159 --> 00:50:17,280
star of David Rockefeller is it's his? It's that David.

864
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,760
It's not the David who is the beloved, because Christ,

865
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,199
who is the true David, who is the true Jacob,

866
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:30,559
is the true Israel. But in order to deceive men

867
00:50:30,599 --> 00:50:33,039
whose minds are set on carnal things, he has to

868
00:50:33,039 --> 00:50:37,800
give them a cardinal Israel. Yep. Indeed, and it stands

869
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,639
in opposition to everything that Christ says.

870
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 2: Isn't it interesting? I don't know how often you think

871
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,840
about this. I think about it probably more than I should.

872
00:50:46,039 --> 00:50:48,480
But you have one book and you have, you know,

873
00:50:48,639 --> 00:50:51,920
hundreds of religions and thousands of denominations. Isn't it just

874
00:50:52,679 --> 00:50:55,199
mind blowing how people can look at one book and

875
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,239
one verse and just have hundreds of different ideals about it.

876
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: Well, the scripture tells us that divisions must come among

877
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,280
us in order that the true faith may be understood.

878
00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:11,199
And again, when this goes back, and I think we

879
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,440
talked about this before, when we don't listen to the

880
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:18,239
scripture which tells us in Isaiah twenty eight, verse twenty

881
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,320
six that a man can be taught by God and

882
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,320
know that God is his teacher, which is an incredible promise.

883
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,480
And then in Isaiah fifty four thirteen it says prophetically

884
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,719
that in the latter days your children shall be taught

885
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:38,119
by the Lord capital lrd Tetragrammatan Hiahweh, and great will

886
00:51:38,119 --> 00:51:40,960
be their peace. Again going back to the teaching from

887
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,679
Ephesians two fourteen. And then Christ in John three point

888
00:51:44,679 --> 00:51:47,000
forty five quotes this and he says, it is written

889
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,800
in the prophets that God will be their teacher, and

890
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,960
everyone who learns from the Father comes to me. And

891
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,599
then in John thirteen thirteen he says to us, you

892
00:51:56,679 --> 00:51:59,920
call me Lord and teacher, and you say so rightly

893
00:52:00,119 --> 00:52:04,880
because I am he is teaching us. Who is he saying?

894
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:09,960
I am the prophesied God who teaches you. And when

895
00:52:10,039 --> 00:52:13,960
you listen to my teaching, you can be certain that

896
00:52:14,119 --> 00:52:18,119
God is your teacher. It should not surprise us that

897
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:27,559
men have innumerable Sorry, I'm flipping to Ecclesiastes really quick,

898
00:52:27,559 --> 00:52:30,119
Ecclesiastes twelve. It should not surprise us that men have

899
00:52:30,159 --> 00:52:34,079
innumerable interpretations, because the world is full of interpretations in

900
00:52:34,119 --> 00:52:37,920
regards to the scripture. But if there is such a

901
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:42,239
thing as truth, and truth by definition is exclusive, then

902
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:47,599
that truth should have only one correct interpretation, right absolutely,

903
00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:50,119
And if there is one who claims to be the

904
00:52:50,159 --> 00:52:54,519
truth John fourteen six, I am the Truth, then it

905
00:52:54,559 --> 00:52:59,440
would it would lead us to believe that his interpretation

906
00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:00,920
is the right.

907
00:53:01,079 --> 00:53:04,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's I try to walk, to walk through

908
00:53:04,159 --> 00:53:08,280
the minefield of denominations because somebody had said months ago

909
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,559
that non denomination is is the baseline for Christianity. Everybody

910
00:53:12,559 --> 00:53:15,199
else who has a denomination has an issue with something.

911
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because if the taking of a name and

912
00:53:20,119 --> 00:53:22,400
calling ourselves a Christian is taking on the name of Christ,

913
00:53:22,519 --> 00:53:24,960
taking on the title of Christ, we are followers of

914
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,880
the Messiah. If I if I call myself a Lutheran,

915
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,760
who's my teacher, Martin Luther? Martin Luther? If I call

916
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,960
myself a Calvinist, who's my teacher? Can Calvin on and

917
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,079
on and on, name whoever it is, if I whatever

918
00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:40,079
denomination I take, which man? So I feel like I'm

919
00:53:40,199 --> 00:53:41,880
I want to go to certain places, but the Lord

920
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,400
is leading us, and I don't want to go against this.

921
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,320
And this is directly addressed again in First Corinthians three

922
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,119
is very First Corinthians itself is incredible, all the scriptures incredible.

923
00:53:51,199 --> 00:53:59,280
But yeah, understanding, yep, But Paul again, Paul, the Holy

924
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,840
Spirit through Paul tells us in one Corinthians three, starting

925
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,880
in verse one, says, for my part, brothers and sisters,

926
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,039
I was not able to speak to you as spiritual people.

927
00:54:08,199 --> 00:54:09,920
Let me actually go back just a little bit, because

928
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,039
again this is Paul, by the Spirit is teaching us

929
00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:16,360
how to interpret the scriptures correctly, which is spiritually. We

930
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:21,639
must understand what's being written spiritually. For he says, I

931
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,440
will go back to verse ten of chapter two. It says,

932
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,599
now God has revealed these things to us by the spirit,

933
00:54:29,079 --> 00:54:32,079
since the spirit searches everything, even the depths of God.

934
00:54:32,599 --> 00:54:35,840
For who knows a person's thought except his spirit within him.

935
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,360
In the same way, no one knows the thoughts of

936
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,960
God except the Spirit of God. Now we have not

937
00:54:41,039 --> 00:54:43,320
received the spirit of the world, but the spirit who

938
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,079
comes from God. So that we may understand what has

939
00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:50,920
been freely given to us by God. We also speak

940
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:55,840
these things, not in words taught by human wisdom, but

941
00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:00,440
in those taught by the spirit, explaining spiritual things to

942
00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:05,400
spiritual people. But the person without the spirit does not

943
00:55:05,559 --> 00:55:09,280
receive what comes from God's Spirit, because it is foolishness

944
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:13,239
to him. He is not able to understand it, since

945
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:19,440
it is evaluated spiritually. The spiritual person, however, can evaluate everything.

946
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,800
And yet he himself cannot be evaluated by anyone, for

947
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,519
who has known the Lord's mind that he may instruct him?

948
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But we have the mind of Christ. That is incredible promise,

949
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an incredible blessing that we have the mind of Jesus Christ,

950
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if he is our teacher, the one who teaches us.

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And then chapter three continues this for my part, brothers

952
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and sisters, I was not able to speak to you

953
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as spiritual people, but as people of the flesh, as

954
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babies in Christ. I gave you milk to drink, not

955
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,320
solid food, since you were not yet ready for it.

956
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In fact, you are still not ready because you are

957
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still worldly. For since there is envy and strife among you,

958
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,760
are you not worldly and behaving like mere humans? For

959
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,400
whenever someone says I belong to Paul, another I belong

960
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,679
to Apollos? Are you not acting like mere humans? If

961
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,400
I'm going to sit here and say I'm a Lutheran,

962
00:56:15,679 --> 00:56:18,360
I'm a Calvinist, am I not behaving like a human?

963
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:24,719
What does that mean? I'm dividing myself from others instead

964
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:29,000
of uniting Christ, who is God unites men in himself.

965
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All are one in Christ Jesus. There is no distinction,

966
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there is no partiality with God. What then is Apollos?

967
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What is Paul? This is verse five. They are servants

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through whom you believed, and each has the role the

969
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Lord has given. I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave

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the growth. So then neither the one who plants nor

971
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the one who waters is anything, but only God who

972
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gives the growth. Now, he who plants and he who

973
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,320
waters are one, and each will receive his own reward

974
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,800
according to his own labor. For we are God's co workers.

975
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You are God's field, God's building. This is why we

976
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,079
have to do as Paul, in the wisdom that is

977
00:57:13,079 --> 00:57:16,039
given to him in Christ says in Second Corinthians chapter four,

978
00:57:16,159 --> 00:57:17,800
verse five, when he says, we do not preach to

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00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,320
you ourselves, but we preach to you Christ and Him crucified.

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If I start, if I take this, because here's the thing,

981
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you and I both stated that the modern Christian Church

982
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,239
does not believe that Jesus Christ is the israel God.

983
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They don't preach it, they don't believe it, they don't

984
00:57:35,039 --> 00:57:37,119
listen to it, they shut their ears to it, and

985
00:57:37,159 --> 00:57:39,719
they war against it. If I come and I start saying,

986
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,480
look at the new teaching that I have. This is

987
00:57:42,599 --> 00:57:45,519
justinian I'm gonna call this Justinianism. Follow me. I will

988
00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:48,719
lead you to Christ. I'm puffing myself up and I

989
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:53,480
am boasting and making it about me. But this is

990
00:57:53,519 --> 00:57:55,480
not new to me. Who am I to boast is

991
00:57:55,519 --> 00:57:57,679
if I have not received what has been given to me.

992
00:57:58,639 --> 00:58:01,760
If I have this wisdom, it is given to me.

993
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Because in Ecclesiastes chapter twelve, it says this in verse

994
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:10,079
eleven or in verse ten, the teacher sought to find

995
00:58:10,119 --> 00:58:14,400
delightful sayings and write words of truth accurately. The sayings

996
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,719
of the wise are like cattle prods, and those from

997
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,920
masters of collections are like firmly embedded or from the

998
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:25,480
master's collections are like firmly embedded nails. The sayings are

999
00:58:25,519 --> 00:58:30,440
given by one shepherd. But beyond these, my son, be warned,

1000
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,400
there is no end to the making of many books.

1001
00:58:33,719 --> 00:58:36,280
So there is no end to the amount of interpretations

1002
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,559
people can find yep, the amount of ways that men

1003
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can lead people astray, and much study wearies the body.

1004
00:58:44,079 --> 00:58:46,480
When all has been heard, the conclusion of the matter

1005
00:58:46,599 --> 00:58:50,920
is this, Fear God and keep his commands, because this

1006
00:58:51,159 --> 00:58:55,400
is for all humanity. For God will bring every act

1007
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,559
of judgment, including every hidden thing, whether good or evil.

1008
00:59:01,199 --> 00:59:04,440
So no, it does not surprise me, because the scripture

1009
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,519
tells me all of these things are going to come

1010
00:59:06,559 --> 00:59:08,679
to pass, so that the true faith can be found

1011
00:59:09,119 --> 00:59:12,559
and be revealed, that men who truly listen to Christ's

1012
00:59:12,599 --> 00:59:17,119
teachings may be discerned from others. Because it goes back

1013
00:59:17,119 --> 00:59:19,880
to the book of Malachi where it tells us that

1014
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,400
in that day which is Christ, you will determine who

1015
00:59:24,519 --> 00:59:27,320
is the one who actually follows Christ, and the man

1016
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,400
who does evil ursue the one who does good and

1017
00:59:30,519 --> 00:59:34,400
obeys his God and the one who does evil, because

1018
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,679
this gives a distinguishment. It showed this is how God divides.

1019
00:59:37,719 --> 00:59:41,079
The only division that God will ever do, because he's impartial,

1020
00:59:41,199 --> 00:59:44,519
is who is my son? Ye? One hundred percent.

1021
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 2: It's something you've done over the last hour already that

1022
00:59:47,039 --> 00:59:50,800
is lost already a lost art is the sermon portion

1023
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,000
of many churches. I've sat through four weeks of not

1024
00:59:54,119 --> 00:59:57,880
one verse being cited. And again that goes back to

1025
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,360
what you said at the very beginning. If you're not

1026
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,320
citing anything, that means you're speaking. If I'm citing the

1027
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,639
Bible after everything we say, it's it's God's word. And

1028
01:00:07,199 --> 01:00:10,519
you're doing really well with that. And I appreciate that wholeheartedly.

1029
01:00:12,239 --> 01:00:14,599
And I mean that because that is so exciting. That's

1030
01:00:14,679 --> 01:00:19,880
something that I just don't see. Do you think this

1031
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:26,000
whole plan, obviously derived from from Satan himself to create

1032
01:00:26,039 --> 01:00:31,400
a physical Israel in the twentieth century, have they already

1033
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,599
attained their deceit or do you think is there a

1034
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,639
bigger goal that they have in the future with all

1035
01:00:36,679 --> 01:00:36,840
of this?

1036
01:00:38,599 --> 01:00:42,599
Speaker 1: The deceit is the deceit has already been attained because

1037
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:47,280
and again this is so because this again escat is.

1038
01:00:47,639 --> 01:00:50,679
This is another problem with this misunderstanding of who Israel

1039
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,239
is because what it does is it either kicks everything

1040
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,519
into the past with dispensationalism, or it kicks everything into

1041
01:00:56,559 --> 01:01:01,679
the future with the eschatology. Right where God tells us today,

1042
01:01:02,719 --> 01:01:05,000
now is the time. Now is the day in which

1043
01:01:05,039 --> 01:01:07,360
I'm helping you. Now is the time of salvation. He's

1044
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:11,119
not saying tomorrow, he's not saying yesterday, and time and again,

1045
01:01:12,079 --> 01:01:15,039
everything that we learn always kicks it into the future.

1046
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,440
So we get this eschatological idea of this end times

1047
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,199
that's going to come upon the whole world that you're

1048
01:01:22,239 --> 01:01:23,960
either going to be raptured out before or you're going

1049
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:25,840
to be raptured out after, and we're all going to

1050
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:30,559
have to face it or not. We all there's a

1051
01:01:30,639 --> 01:01:33,519
select there's a select dispensation that's going to have to

1052
01:01:33,599 --> 01:01:37,159
face it. That is a and we we don't have time.

1053
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,000
This is all again, these are all built on this

1054
01:01:39,519 --> 01:01:43,679
false paradigm understanding of who Israel is. And this has

1055
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,079
never been in the Church like this, because the early

1056
01:01:47,239 --> 01:01:50,159
Church knew who Israel was. And if we had more time,

1057
01:01:50,239 --> 01:01:53,559
I could literally just go through justin Martyr iaron Aeus,

1058
01:01:53,920 --> 01:02:00,320
Clementine or excuse me not Clementine, clement ignacious, and others

1059
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,280
who all sit there and tell and say, believers in

1060
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:08,320
Christ are Israel, they are the true Jews. And this

1061
01:02:09,199 --> 01:02:12,679
and again this goes to the way that we are

1062
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:18,760
taught the scripture Carnalinge. And I let's just do a

1063
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,599
simple case study. Okay, So let's go to Second Thessalonians

1064
01:02:22,679 --> 01:02:25,639
chapter two, because this is everybody always goes here and

1065
01:02:25,719 --> 01:02:28,800
we all focus on it, about this, the great rebellion

1066
01:02:29,119 --> 01:02:32,000
that's going to come in this time. Okay. So Second

1067
01:02:32,239 --> 01:02:35,840
Thessalonians chapter two says this, now, concerning the coming of

1068
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:40,119
our Lord Jesus Christ, and our being gathered to him,

1069
01:02:40,559 --> 01:02:42,760
we ask you, brothers and sisters, not to be easily

1070
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,400
upset or troubled, either by prophecy or by a message

1071
01:02:46,519 --> 01:02:49,199
or by a letter supposedly from us, alleging that that

1072
01:02:49,719 --> 01:02:53,199
that the day of the Lord has come. Don't let

1073
01:02:53,519 --> 01:02:59,119
anyone deceive you in any way. Note that for that

1074
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:03,079
day we'll not unless the great falling away the aposta

1075
01:03:03,159 --> 01:03:06,519
see the rebellion, which all the different translations. However, they

1076
01:03:06,559 --> 01:03:11,440
say it, excuse me, and to unless the Great rebellion

1077
01:03:11,519 --> 01:03:15,360
comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the

1078
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:19,199
man doomed to destruction. He opposes a He exalts himself

1079
01:03:19,239 --> 01:03:21,719
above every so called God or object of worship, so

1080
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:25,000
that he sits in God's temple, proclaiming that he himself

1081
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,840
is God. Don't you remember that when I was still

1082
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:33,119
with you, I used to tell you about this, Okay,

1083
01:03:33,639 --> 01:03:36,599
So first and foremost, Paul is telling us, let no

1084
01:03:36,679 --> 01:03:39,760
one deceive you. Here's what you need to look for.

1085
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:45,480
And then thirdly, I have told you about this very

1086
01:03:45,559 --> 01:03:48,320
interesting because I don't know anywhere else that I have

1087
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,679
seen in the carnal sense where Paul mentions in any

1088
01:03:51,719 --> 01:03:54,519
of his letters about this figure setting himself in the temple. Correct.

1089
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:02,159
But the modern day eschatology has modern Christians looking for

1090
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:06,800
this third temple that's going to be built on the

1091
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,320
Temple mount where the doma Rock, the Dome of the

1092
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,519
Rock currently sits. And that's why there's this war between

1093
01:04:11,599 --> 01:04:15,719
Christians and israel excuse, and Israelites and Palestinians and Arabs,

1094
01:04:15,719 --> 01:04:18,159
and that why they're all fighting over this holy land.

1095
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,400
Once again, Praise be to God for the wisdom that's

1096
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,519
given to us in First Corinthians. Let's just go right

1097
01:04:25,599 --> 01:04:28,599
back to where we've been in the vast majority of

1098
01:04:28,639 --> 01:04:32,360
this for spiritual understanding. First Corinthians, chapter three, starting in

1099
01:04:32,559 --> 01:04:36,400
verse I believe it's sixteen. It's either sixteen or eighteen.

1100
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:46,079
First Corinthians, Chapter three, sixteen. The temple. Yeah, do you

1101
01:04:46,079 --> 01:04:51,159
yourselves know that you are God's temple and that the

1102
01:04:51,239 --> 01:04:55,599
spirit of God lives in you. If anyone destroys God's temple,

1103
01:04:56,280 --> 01:05:00,639
iscuse destroys God's temple, God will destroy him. For God's

1104
01:05:00,719 --> 01:05:06,239
temple is holy and that is what you are. Let

1105
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:10,840
no one deceive himself. Let's go right back to Second

1106
01:05:11,119 --> 01:05:16,679
Thessalonians chapter two. Let no man deceive you. Let no

1107
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,320
one deceive himself. Let no man deceive you. Guess what

1108
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:24,239
I am a man? Let me not deceive myself. I

1109
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,679
am the temple of Living God. I have that interpretation.

1110
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,719
Paul says, Do you not remember when I was still

1111
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,599
with you, I used to tell you about this. He

1112
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,599
just told me, I am the temple of the Living God.

1113
01:05:37,239 --> 01:05:39,920
You are the temple of Living God. So when I

1114
01:05:40,239 --> 01:05:43,159
read Second Thessalonians, and it says in verse three, don't

1115
01:05:43,199 --> 01:05:45,320
let anyone deceive you. In any way, for that day

1116
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,559
will not come unless the apostasy, the great rebellion, the

1117
01:05:48,639 --> 01:05:52,320
falling away, comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed,

1118
01:05:52,639 --> 01:05:55,679
the man doomed to destruction. He opposes, and he exalts

1119
01:05:55,719 --> 01:05:58,679
himself above every soul called God or objects of worship,

1120
01:05:59,079 --> 01:06:02,519
so that he sits in God's temple. Where is he

1121
01:06:02,679 --> 01:06:06,840
sitting with?

1122
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 2: Then you in me?

1123
01:06:08,679 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1124
01:06:09,039 --> 01:06:13,079
Speaker 2: And man, that makes you shudder, that's powerful. You know,

1125
01:06:13,519 --> 01:06:16,519
read read three. There's another three sixteen. Boy, the numbers

1126
01:06:16,519 --> 01:06:20,400
are hitting today, John three sixteen. You know first Corinsians

1127
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:24,920
three sixteen, and then read first Crinsians three sixteen, and

1128
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:29,360
then get excited about hearing bombs being dropped. Anyone destroys

1129
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,079
God's temple, God will destroy that person.

1130
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: Exactly right, because this is what we do. This is

1131
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:38,239
what the enemy has already done. He is He has

1132
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:42,079
turned our minds away from the spiritual and set it

1133
01:06:42,119 --> 01:06:44,599
on the cardinal, which Romans eight tells us his death.

1134
01:06:44,679 --> 01:06:48,320
Unto us we are we as a modern church, as

1135
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,320
the body of Jesus Christ, have forgotten who we are

1136
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:56,400
in God, which is Israel. We are Israel with him,

1137
01:06:56,679 --> 01:06:58,880
We are Jews with him. And I don't know how.

1138
01:06:59,199 --> 01:07:02,239
I do know how, But there is absolutely no way

1139
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,679
to dispute it. Because if we go to Romans chapter two,

1140
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,320
Like if I go and I talk to someone, and

1141
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,559
I talk to a Christian, I say, who is a Jew?

1142
01:07:10,119 --> 01:07:13,039
They'll tell me, well, they're the ethnic descendants of Abraham.

1143
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,679
Why I can take them? I could take them to

1144
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,239
Galatians chapter four, which literally talks It says that this

1145
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:25,119
is that the two wives of Abraham, Hagar and Sarah,

1146
01:07:25,199 --> 01:07:30,239
are an allegory or no, sorry, yeah, is given an

1147
01:07:30,239 --> 01:07:32,719
allegory Mount Sinai, and he talks about Ishmael being born

1148
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,679
of the flesh, the son born of the flesh, and

1149
01:07:34,719 --> 01:07:36,639
the son born of the promise. Again, who is the

1150
01:07:36,679 --> 01:07:39,320
promise of God Jesus Christ. So there's the children born

1151
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,480
of the spirit, and there's the children born of the flesh.

1152
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,599
Those born in the flesh are slaves and will not

1153
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:48,559
have a part with the children born according to the promise.

1154
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:54,119
This is literally written. But here, even if they say that,

1155
01:07:54,199 --> 01:07:55,800
even if they're going to hold to that, take them

1156
01:07:55,840 --> 01:08:00,320
to the scriptures and it says this in verse where

1157
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:01,840
do I want to go? Do I want to go back?

1158
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,639
I'll just go to verse twenty eight. For a person

1159
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:09,599
is not a Jew who is one outwardly and true

1160
01:08:09,679 --> 01:08:14,239
circumcision is not something visible in the flesh. On the contrary,

1161
01:08:14,599 --> 01:08:18,199
a person is a Jew who is won inwardly, and

1162
01:08:18,399 --> 01:08:23,199
circumcision is of the heart, by the spirit, not the letter.

1163
01:08:24,119 --> 01:08:28,720
That person's praise is not from people, but from God.

1164
01:08:30,319 --> 01:08:33,439
How many times I ask your viewers to read this

1165
01:08:34,039 --> 01:08:37,279
slowly and ask themselves, how many times have they read

1166
01:08:37,319 --> 01:08:40,359
this and just skimmed over it and not taken it

1167
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,239
to heart, and just gone and set in their minds

1168
01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:49,079
that a Jew is an ethnic, a bloodline descendant, excuse me, Abraham,

1169
01:08:49,319 --> 01:08:54,199
or a Hebrew according to birth. And this is where again,

1170
01:08:54,279 --> 01:08:56,760
this is where you get so well, then replacement theology

1171
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:01,800
and dispensational theology. Well, then if dispensational theology is true,

1172
01:09:02,199 --> 01:09:04,680
then theirs. I shouldn't even read the Book of Hebrews

1173
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:06,800
because that doesn't pertain to me, or the Book of

1174
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:09,399
James doesn't pertain to me because it's only written to

1175
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,840
the twelve tribes in the Dispensation, which is very interesting

1176
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,960
because according to history it was ten tribes, but James

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01:09:15,079 --> 01:09:18,720
is referencing the twelve tribes in the dispensation. How are

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twelve tribes in the dispensation? Because all the true spiritual Israel,

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the Israel of God, is Galatians six fifteen. Teachers. Okay,

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so let me slow down this fervin zeal and go

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to where the Lord is going. Because again, for a

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person is not a Jew who is won outwardly, and

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true circumcision is not something visible in the flesh. On

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the contrary, a person is a Jew who is won inwardly.

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In circumcision is of the heart by the spirit, not

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the letter. That the person's praise is not from people,

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but from God. And let me go ahead and go

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to Galatians chapter six, and let the Lord put the

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sword in the heart of this heresy in Galatians chapter

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six starting in verse oh my gosh, sorry, my pages

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are stuck together, starting in verse fifteen. For both circumcision

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and uncircumcision. This is Galatians chapter six, starting in verse fifteen.

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For both circumcision and uncircumcision mean nothing. What matters instead

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is a new creation. May peace come to all those

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who follow this standard of teaching, and mercy to them

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and to the Israel of God. So already scripture in

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two short passages has shown us that as a Jew

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is not as we appraise them according to the flesh.

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Israel is not as we appraise them according to the flesh.

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They are praised by God, not by men according to

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the spirit, who have had their hearts circumcised by the

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Spirit and have faith in Jesus Christ for salvation as

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their king. And what does the New Testament say was

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written on his cross he was whom king of the Jews.

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That's right. So then I ask people, is he your king?

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Who does that make you?

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Speaker 2: Amen? That was really well said. And again when you

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hear people say pray for Israel, Yeah, pray for the

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body of Christ. Right, But also at the same time,

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think of this, pray for those who are deceived within

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those borders who don't take Christ as their savior. You

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should pray for them, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and we should pray for And I want to

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be clear that none of this comes from me, None

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of this is none of this is justin like sitting

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here and saying, look at me, I'm so much wiser

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than anybody. I was believing everything. I was huge into eschatology,

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I was huge into the well and to pre trib

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post trib mid trip, when's the rapture coming? Because that's

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what I had been taught by men again and again

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when I first came to Christ. That's all I was taught.

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Speaker 3: This.

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Speaker 1: This is the traditions of men, in doctrines of demons

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that had permeated the Church, that have led men to

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look the wrong way. John fourteen six says, I am

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the way. So when tewod Corinthians chapter three, verse fourteen

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through eight, or seventeen tells us that men's hearts are

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hardened when they read the scripture, when they read the

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Old Testament, when they read Moses, because they are not

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looking for the Lord, for they veil their heart. Their

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hearts are hardened, and their eyes are veiled, and they

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are unable to understand the scripture. Because the only way

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to have the veil removed and the scriptures opened onto

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them is to turn to Jesus Christ, because he is

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the way. So what way should I interpret the scripture?

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Exactly the way Christ tells you John five point thirty nine.

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You search the scriptures because you think in them you

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have eternal life. But I tell you it is these

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that testify of me. And he hammers it home in

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verse forty and you refuse to come to me so

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that you may have life. Luke chapter twenty four. He

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says it when he's on the road to Amaus with

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the two disciples, Oh you who are stubborn in heart

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of heart? Was it not necessary that the Christ should

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endure all that had been written of him in or

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all that had been written about him in Moses and

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the Prophets, And opening their minds, he interpreted to them

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these scriptures. In excuse me, he interpreted to them in

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the scriptures everything pertaining to him. And then he goes

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into the upper room, the locked room, and stands among

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the disciples, and he says, peace be among you, and

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he opens their minds to understand the scriptures of how Moses,

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the Prophets, and the Psalms all testified that the Christ

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must suffer and die at the hands of men, and

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that salvation in his name should be preached for all

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mankind beginning from Jerusalem. Amen to that.

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Speaker 2: And you know, this is an important, such an important message.

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And again much of the Church has been deceived. And

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we were all there at one time. And I'm not

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saying that I am the end all be all of

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this information, but you know, take the time, sit down

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with your bibles, read it and understand that again we

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are you know, God is within us, the Church is

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within our hearts. And you know the way, like you

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mentioned being called a Calvinist or a Lutheran and all

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of these things. It's simply you know, there was even

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a time I don't know if it's still going on

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that the besmirchmen of Paul, you know, the Trader and

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this and that. Paul is one of the greatest stories

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of the Bible because if anyone could be saved, I mean,

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you want to talk about paul redemption, you know, standing

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over Steve and getting stoned and then turned around. Now

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granted he didn't interact with Jesus physically on this realm,

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but he had an interaction with him, and Lord knows

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that if he was alive today, I think just about

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every single one of our churches would be getting a letter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And Paul is Paul tells us to imitate him

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as he imitates Christ. And his journey is very very interesting.

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If you read through his epistles, what does he say?

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He says, I'm the least of all the apostles. The

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next time he speaks of himselves, he says, I'm the

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lowest of all the saints. And the final time, before

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he is before he is martyred, he says that I

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am the worst of all sinners, which again is revelatory

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to how men will exalt themselves outside of Christ, but

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Christians will humble themselves before the Lord so that the

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Lord may exalt them.

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Speaker 2: Humility is something I think we all need to learn

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to be better Christians, to be better followers of Christ.

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That is something that I think if you ask anybody,

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whether they're in seminary or new to it, humility is

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something that we all need to work.

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Speaker 1: Harder on, absolutely every single one of us. Yeah, me included.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this has been powerful, and I'm looking forward to

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hearing back from the folks. Is there anything that you

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wanted to close with justin or anything else that we

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hadn't touched on yet.

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Speaker 1: Just this In the prophet Isaiah, I believe it's Isaiah

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fifty nine, the Lord tells he's speaking to eunuchs. Again,

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that's an image of a slave, and we are to

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be slaves that Jesus Christ. Let no man separate himself

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from Israel. Let no one do not be ashamed of this,

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but be prepared. The world will hate you for this. Yeah,

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Christians will hate you for this. They don't want it.

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The spirit that dwells within them will seek to destroy you,

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not always by physical means, but will undermine you, will

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go against you. I can testify to you on this.

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They will scoff at you, They will persecute you, They

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will deny you because they do not want Christ to

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be the Israel of God. Because if Christ is the

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Israel of God, then they must fear. And men don't

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want to be afraid. But there is the fear of

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God is a blessing. Unto you. The fear of God

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is a gift, because the fear of God is the

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beginning of all knowledge and wisdom. Jesus Christ, who is

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the knowledge and wisdom of God, who is Colossus chapter two,

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verse two through three tells us is that the mystery

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of God is Christ, in whom are hidden all the

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treasures and knowledge, or all the treasures of knowledge and wisdom.

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I tell you this so that no one may deceive

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you with plausible arguments. If you want Christ, you must

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fear God. You must acknowledge that what was written to

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Israel in the Lass Earing the former days is written

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for your instruction, just as it says in Romans chapter four,

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and it says in One Corinthians chapter ten, this all

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happened to them as an example, and it was written

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down for our instruction. This is all written for us,

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because when God is talking to Israel, the Israelites, he

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is talking to you and me, just as he was

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talking to them. There is no partiality with God. But

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any man among any nation who fears his name and

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does his will is accepted by him. Amen.

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Speaker 2: Now that's powerful. And I can't thank you enough for

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the time you gave us today and for the listeners.

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Justin's email addresses in the show notes if you'd like

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to reach out and say hello, and again, very powerful information.

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And again, don't just take this information and hold it withinside.

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Discipleship is really how we win this fight against evil,

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right creating fishers of men. And again, thank you so

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much for your time, and to the listeners, thank you,

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and God bless each and every single one of you.

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And until we meet again, my friends, we will see you.

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Speaker 3: I was lost in the shadows, chasing empty dreams, broken

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by the world, torn at the scene for the light

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broke through calling out my name. I love so true,

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washed away my shame.

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Speaker 2: Have have a step by, say you're leading me.

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Speaker 3: On a road too, Grays wm my.

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Speaker 1: Soul, miss freak.

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Speaker 4: On Salvation Street, will you learn sinnings Everyone drained.

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Speaker 3: Cork finds the place to breathe your cross, slots the.

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Speaker 2: Way through the dark and paint.

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Speaker 3: I'm running to your arms on Salvation Street.

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Speaker 1: You gay whoa O.

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Speaker 3: Sins like change holding me down. But your voice was

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louder than the battle sound. You lifted me up from

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the ashes our eyes. Now I see your truth shining

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in your eyes. Every step by, and take you lead

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in me on a road too, Grays, where my soul

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is free. Hamber on Salvation where your merg sea meets

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every wall, drained part finds of place to breathe your cross.

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That's the way through the dark and paint. I'm running

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to your arms on Salvation Street, no more fee normal lines.

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You loves the fire, lights the sky.

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Speaker 4: I'm a lie, I'm Rentine walking with my savin Salvation Street.

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On Salvation Street, where you merge meets every wall during

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part finds of place to breathe your cross.

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Speaker 3: That's the way through the dark and paint. I'm running

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to your arms on Salvation Street, On Salvation Street, where

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your grace is sweet out forever walk to do mocky mondies.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Fact Hunter Radio network. Just the facts, ma'amy.