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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Deplorable Cult Nation on Cult of Conspiracy, where

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<v Speaker 1>halos and shadows collide in.

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<v Speaker 2>Symphony, Angels who whisper their wings brush the void, faithful

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<v Speaker 2>and fraction truth destroy religion's thread waves through the devil,

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<v Speaker 2>and madness dances on the border.

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<v Speaker 3>Lo is it prophecy, a psychosis unseen, a sacred dream

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<v Speaker 3>or reminds machine so jocat. Welcome to Deplorable Cult Nation.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, and welcome back to another episode of Deplorable Nation.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Deplorable Jane, and today, ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>my returning bestI from the West, Miss Heidi. How are you, beautiful.

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<v Speaker 4>Darling, wonderful, my best friend. I'm so excited to talk

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<v Speaker 4>to you again. We get a chat. You know, we

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<v Speaker 4>do our therapy before we go live.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys, g're all.

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<v Speaker 4>Going to shoot me.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a therapy is a good thing to go along

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<v Speaker 1>with today's topic. It's very fitting for the best of

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<v Speaker 1>holiday season. Today we are going to talk about angelic

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<v Speaker 1>visitation psychosis. So is it really divine intervention or is

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<v Speaker 1>it really psychosis? And there's some differentiations between the two.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will share a personal story about somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>I know later on in the show.

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<v Speaker 4>And I happen to know a guy that saw an

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<v Speaker 4>angel and then they put it on top of every temple,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, just kind of raised in it. Hey not alone,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's what we'll talk about today. He's not the

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<v Speaker 4>only one.

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<v Speaker 1>He is not. He is not. So this isn't a

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote formal diagnosis or not formal medical diagnosis per se.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more of like a clinical pattern. And it does

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<v Speaker 1>fit in the mental health realm because they have made

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of updates to their diagnosing handbook, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be interesting. It could be uh people

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<v Speaker 1>can see heavenly beings or define missions or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all of those kind of things. So those can all

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<v Speaker 1>be part of this that we're going to get into.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's going to be a very interesting, uh

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<v Speaker 1>little discussion.

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<v Speaker 4>Awesome, Well, I did get some fun little pictures. I

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<v Speaker 4>put him up there. Hopefully that one's not too dark,

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<v Speaker 4>but we shall accompany.

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<v Speaker 1>That personally on the table.

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<v Speaker 4>Well he's not, but it kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>So weird, like the head disappeared that row and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, that's a really weird I think, sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's got a hood on and his head slumped forward.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's a lot darker than it was on the freakin'.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I was like, that person has no head.

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<v Speaker 4>Here, we'll do this angel, this is better.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a little more colorful.

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<v Speaker 4>I can go naked booties and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>There you are, So what people call angelic visitation psychosis.

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<v Speaker 1>People sometimes believe that not only are angels speaking to them,

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<v Speaker 1>but giving them commands or warnings or some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>mission they got to carry out. Sometimes they see or

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<v Speaker 1>hear them, and so it's kind of one of those

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<v Speaker 1>almost like a psychic thing where you can see and

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<v Speaker 1>hear them, but other people around you cannot, And they

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<v Speaker 1>oftentimes feel like they're the chosen one. So they feel

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<v Speaker 1>special or uniquely protected by some kind of supernatural presence.

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<v Speaker 1>Which if you feel chosen or special, think about the

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<v Speaker 1>previous series that we have done and how people can

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<v Speaker 1>use that to manipulate others.

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<v Speaker 4>So like j Justph Smith, Oh he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh an angel.

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<v Speaker 4>I had to throw him in sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>So some people that go through this, like they get

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<v Speaker 1>a sense of euphoria. Some people get terror or like

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<v Speaker 1>a mystical intensity kind of connection to these perceptions that

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<v Speaker 1>they believe were happening to them, and some people have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of difficulty distinguishing between actual reality and and

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<v Speaker 1>these psychotic episodes.

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<v Speaker 4>It would be scary, I mean to think about it,

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<v Speaker 4>like I get it. I mean, even in Joseph Smith's case,

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<v Speaker 4>where I joke around, he had a really traumatic thing

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<v Speaker 4>medically happened to him when he was little, So it

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<v Speaker 4>kind of makes sense, you know, did he disassociate and

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<v Speaker 4>then that became his protect you know, his protector.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's one of the things that we're definitely going

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<v Speaker 1>to get into with this diagnosis because there are certain

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<v Speaker 1>things that lend themselves more to the psychosis part. Now, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>actual uh, spiritual awakenings and stuff do happen, So there's

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<v Speaker 1>a big differentiation between what is the psychosis and what's

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<v Speaker 1>what's not psychosis. So when it crosses the line from

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<v Speaker 1>like a spiritual awakening into psychosis, people have number one,

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<v Speaker 1>a loss of reality and so they cannot consider any

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<v Speaker 1>other interpretations or questioning of beliefs or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're very rigid and staunch on what it is that

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<v Speaker 1>no question. Sound familiar, Oh yeah, oh yeah, goes hand

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<v Speaker 1>in hand with some other people that have psychosis these days.

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<v Speaker 1>Although it's not angelic, I would say it's demonic psychosis.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean in his case as well, my personal opinion,

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<v Speaker 4>I feel it was more than psychosis. It was a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of conjuring. So of course we'll get into that,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know, we have to have a way to

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<v Speaker 4>show this medically too, because it is a medical phenomenon.

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<v Speaker 1>Right one percent. So well with the psychosis part, not

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<v Speaker 1>only do they lose touch with reality, but a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times they'll have functional impairments with it, and so

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<v Speaker 1>they'll have trouble sleeping, They neglect responsibilities, so they get lazy,

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<v Speaker 1>they get dangerous because they will say a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times that you know, X, Y and Z angel told

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<v Speaker 1>me to you know, do harm to other people or something.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been serial killers that have said that. There

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<v Speaker 1>have been cult people who have carried out killings and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in the name of you know, an angel or Messiah, prophet,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to call.

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<v Speaker 4>More more killings than most anything else, right over, stuff

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<v Speaker 4>like thundered I do like the serial killer guy, the dog,

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<v Speaker 4>the Sam, the son of Sam. It was an angel,

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<v Speaker 4>It was a dog, but I get it. I love

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<v Speaker 4>my dog too, but that was a scary dog apparently.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, towns of Hell maybe, I know.

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<v Speaker 4>There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of times along with the psychosis portion

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<v Speaker 1>of this, they get command hallucinations, and that's when the

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<v Speaker 1>angel is instructing them to tell you or to do things,

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<v Speaker 1>or even really risky behavior, not just you know, dangerous,

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<v Speaker 1>but something that's very risky, like run in front of

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<v Speaker 1>a bus or you know whatever. And sometimes they even

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<v Speaker 1>have co occurring symptoms with other things like paranoias, schizophrenia,

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<v Speaker 1>disorganized thoughts, delusions are grandeur like I'm the new prophet,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here to save humanity type stuff, and severe mood

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<v Speaker 1>things like mania's depressions and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you the ones that have the god complex. Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>that was fun. The ones that have the god complex,

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<v Speaker 4>that have the real like it's real, they're actually either

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<v Speaker 4>really fun, they're actually pretty dang funny, or they're terrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's scary sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>So things that can trigger the psychotic angelic visitation psychosis

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<v Speaker 1>part anything that is biological, physiological, and spiritual, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>they overlap with each other. And so if you have

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<v Speaker 1>manic episodes if you're bipolar and you have any of

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<v Speaker 1>the other previous things that we just named, or schizophrenic

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<v Speaker 1>schizophrenic effective disorder, extreme trauma, and people that experience a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the angelic visitation psychosis have had severe, severe

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<v Speaker 1>childhood trauma. Yes, it can happen in adults as well,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's very it's very common to start in childhood.

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<v Speaker 4>And this can be medical trauma.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys like this is one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 4>So for people that don't know. Joseph Smith when he

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<v Speaker 4>was young, he got typhoid fever which settled in his

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<v Speaker 4>leg and he ended up actually having a big boil

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<v Speaker 4>lanced and it went systemic and he was super sick.

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<v Speaker 4>They should have cut his leg off.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a full.

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<v Speaker 4>Blown through his whole system an infection secondary because they

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<v Speaker 4>didn't catch the big puss ball under his armpit after

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<v Speaker 4>the typhoid and do it quick enough, and then it

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<v Speaker 4>got too big and then his mom actually saved his legs.

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<v Speaker 4>So she says, I don't know lots of stories around that,

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<v Speaker 4>but nevertheless, one of the first people where they didn't

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<v Speaker 4>cut the leg off and they cut instead while he's awake,

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't take any alcohol, so they say, I think he

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<v Speaker 4>was maybe seven or eight when this happened, and cutting

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<v Speaker 4>out the infected bone from osteomyolitis, and it was over

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<v Speaker 4>and over again. She said there were quarts of puss

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<v Speaker 4>coming out of his leg.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yulled me delightful. Anybody cream sauce anyone, right?

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly? It was bad enough the mom kind of had

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<v Speaker 4>a breakdown, So I'm saying it was traumatic.

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<v Speaker 1>But now, I like, I like gross stuff, so I

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<v Speaker 1>would have been like, ooh, that is fascinating to me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and then holding him, I mean, I can't even

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<v Speaker 4>imagine the mom had to leave, the dad had to

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<v Speaker 4>take over. But and I do feel bad for that one,

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<v Speaker 4>for him, Like I get it, you know, as somebody

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<v Speaker 4>that had a medical childhood trauma with my foot, I

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<v Speaker 4>get it. But also like Broy, yeah, it didn't just

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<v Speaker 4>come to him, Like these people didn't ask for this,

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<v Speaker 4>right conjured, Yeah, right.

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<v Speaker 1>That happens. That happens sometimes. So along with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the insomnia sleep deprivation, a sensory deprivation can also. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you've had any kind of trauma that includes any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sensory deprivation, like you were held in captivity,

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<v Speaker 1>in the dark or anything like that. That also plays

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<v Speaker 1>a big factor in this because it changes your your

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<v Speaker 1>perception of things. And of course psychedelics and other substances

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<v Speaker 1>the people tend to abuse, So that can include cybercillin,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know happy mushrooms, LSB CLO and kaoltr that

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<v Speaker 1>it cannabinoids, which you and I did a whole show

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<v Speaker 1>on those.

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<v Speaker 4>That.

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<v Speaker 1>Then fhetamine use goes who that changes your brain chemistry

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<v Speaker 1>and you will lose your teeth mm hmm. And so

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these things, especially in copious amounts, even

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<v Speaker 1>with the marijuana, can cause your brain chemistry to be

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<v Speaker 1>very messed up. And so you could be on a

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<v Speaker 1>trip thinking you're talking to angels when you're not really.

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<v Speaker 4>But remember another thing, you could have. The whole reason

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<v Speaker 4>why you know, acid didn't take off from mk ultra

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<v Speaker 4>is because some people had a good time some people time.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people instead of seeing angels, they see quite the opposite.

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<v Speaker 1>They see some stuff like this, who yeah and uh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That For me, that's one of the reasons why, like

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<v Speaker 1>I never want to experience like an ayahuasca journey or

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<v Speaker 1>of that stuff in my life.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I agree, one hundred percent. And I just think

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<v Speaker 4>it is what. You know, if you want to learn

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<v Speaker 4>about these things, you kind of got to go to

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<v Speaker 4>the people messing with this stuff, which is occultist and

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<v Speaker 4>Steiner talks about it, Crawley talks about it. All these

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<v Speaker 4>people talk about, you know, these other realms, and I fully,

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<v Speaker 4>I fully think that I am a realm person. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, look, you want to cross over that, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>but here's the deal. You noted them, then back with you,

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<v Speaker 4>they notice you, And I truly believe.

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<v Speaker 1>Life is scary enough without that. Yeah, that's the extra help.

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<v Speaker 1>So also included in the in the psychosis part has

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<v Speaker 4>Is well, and people always say to me, how did

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<v Speaker 4>Right, And so everybody there is quite the same, and

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<v Speaker 1>of this kind is that because the psyche feels so overwhelmed,

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<v Speaker 1>but generally it's something soft like angels or profits or

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<v Speaker 1>of like a savior complex, like you're meant me saving

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<v Speaker 1>or things in that nature.

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<v Speaker 4>So and they can get even to the point where

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<v Speaker 4>they're like self sacrificing, like oh absolutely, yeah, it's wild.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you know, because that our body actually turns

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<v Speaker 1>why a lot of times they turn into religious themes

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<v Speaker 1>and the body just naturally does that, which I find

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating that we have the ability that our body just

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<v Speaker 1>automatically turns on that safety mode. It's like, hey, Janet,

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<v Speaker 1>there's an angel, let's talk to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and I definitely think God can send people, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>but they don't come when you conjured. They don't come

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<v Speaker 4>when you ask, like it's opposite. They do what God

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, when we went into this, I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>I believe some of these people, but like also some

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm, well that goes along with the story that

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<v Speaker 1>I got to tell you later, So it's a what's

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<v Speaker 1>a doozy one, it's a woozy. So on the spiritual

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<v Speaker 1>side of things, you know, a lot of different cultures,

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<v Speaker 1>so they can see them as visions, altered states of consciousness,

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<v Speaker 1>mystical encounters, ancestral contact through loved ones that have passed on,

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<v Speaker 1>angels or celestial beings, things like that. And it's in

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<v Speaker 1>It's a way of grounding the people and it makes

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<v Speaker 1>functionality normal for them. And so anytime they can like

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<v Speaker 1>internalize things that are going on around them, it helps

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<v Speaker 4>I do want to say to people Crowley's quote, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's not word for word, I can just summarize what

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<v Speaker 4>these kinds of things, like about speaking to things from

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<v Speaker 4>the other side or whatever, are lying. Some are psychotic,

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<v Speaker 4>and the last one is the worst one because they're

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<v Speaker 4>real and it's not who you think it is, and

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<v Speaker 4>it is the shell of like your aunt Bessie, whoever

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<v Speaker 4>you think that is. That they are creating to make

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<v Speaker 4>you feel, you know, like it's okay, which is why

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<v Speaker 4>they call him familiar spirits. But this is from an

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<v Speaker 4>occultist who said he was afraid of it. I want

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<v Speaker 4>to heed that warning.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and what did they do? I mean, what is

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<v Speaker 1>the what does Satan do? What do his married band

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<v Speaker 1>of demons? Do? They rist things? Right? And so what

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<v Speaker 1>easier way to manipulate you into doing what they want

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<v Speaker 1>than to use a loved one and they know every place?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, absolutely, one hundred percent. So the difference is

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<v Speaker 1>here with this true spiritual awakening which does happen to believers,

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<v Speaker 1>versus psychosis in the spiritual awakening, which is the normal one, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is not where people are crazy and psychotic.

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<v Speaker 4>On this.

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<v Speaker 1>They can integrate, you know, and and grow. So they

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<v Speaker 1>get this message or feeling or something like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they use it to better their lives or better

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<v Speaker 1>the lives of the people around them and stuff. But

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<v Speaker 1>they're still quite aware of their reality their surroundings, and

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<v Speaker 1>they use whatever message to internalize and make things better,

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<v Speaker 1>so they feel still very grounded. The person can still

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<v Speaker 1>you know, reflect on things and interpret things, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>not like one thousand percent staunch in their beliefs and

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<v Speaker 1>nothing else could be true. Their lives get more organized

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<v Speaker 1>and meaningful and purposeful. And I will tell you, if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a spiritual awakening and you don't feel like

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<v Speaker 1>serving other people, then I would say you're probably having

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<v Speaker 1>more of the psychosis type if it hasn't changed your

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<v Speaker 1>heart whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, And you shouldn't feel you should feel led without

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<v Speaker 4>feeling crazy, like without feeling like, oh my gosh, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to be struck down right this minute, Like I don't. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>that's part of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And God doesn't instill us with the heart of fear,

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<v Speaker 1>And so if you're feeling that way, that's probably not

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<v Speaker 1>a light force that's that's attached to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Just say I liked this one, even though we're talking

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<v Speaker 4>about not being crazy, just because I sort of I

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<v Speaker 4>can relate, right, Like, being considered crazy by those who

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<v Speaker 4>are still victims of cultural conditioning is a compliment. And

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<v Speaker 4>that doesn't mean you're batshit crazy, Okay, It means other

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<v Speaker 4>people do not align with you, like me leaving Mormonism

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<v Speaker 4>or Janet not having like a specific church thing. We're

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<v Speaker 4>doing our own thing, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll here. Yeah, one hundred percent. And it should always

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<v Speaker 1>be about your personal relationship, not a physical building.

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<v Speaker 4>No. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Period.

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<v Speaker 4>And like she said, you should be in service of others.

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<v Speaker 4>You should have a heart for God. That's what that's all. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and that's that's one of the things that comes

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<v Speaker 1>along with this, because the next thing that happens during

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<v Speaker 1>an awakening is you actually get empathy for other people

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<v Speaker 1>and more understanding and a of stability and knowing your

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<v Speaker 1>path and knowing your purpose. So you're gonna feel more guided.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel like you've grown or expanded your knowledge. You

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<v Speaker 1>have control over your choices instead of being led to

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<v Speaker 1>do bad things. Okay, okay, I think I swallowed a

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<v Speaker 4>Okay. I was getting worried because I can't see you.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, are you okay?

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<v Speaker 1>I was gagging. Okay. So moving into and away from

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<v Speaker 1>the spiritual awakening and the real, you know, normalcy of that,

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<v Speaker 1>now we flip to the psychosis side. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>when you your identity, your thoughts, and your perceptions completely

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<v Speaker 1>fracture reality. Your beliefs are absolute, there's no room for questioning.

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<v Speaker 1>Like some people on social media these days, you have racing,

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<v Speaker 1>chaotic thoughts, lots of paranora, paranoia and fear tends to

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<v Speaker 1>dominate your brain, and so you're constantly what if, what if?

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<v Speaker 1>What if? Does this person not like me? I think

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<v Speaker 1>they don't like me, and you know all the things

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<v Speaker 1>that we go through.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes they don't like me, but I did it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes people don't like me either, and that is okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because that just means I'm not meant for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Boo. Yeah, we're not for everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet take me with the glass of sugar. It'll be better.

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<v Speaker 1>So people like this become very disconnected and they withdraw,

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<v Speaker 1>they mist trust everyone, and they have a complete collapse

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<v Speaker 1>of any kind of functionality. So these are the people

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<v Speaker 1>where literally everything is going wrong in their life and

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<v Speaker 1>they're constantly in turmoil or chaos or you know, all

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<v Speaker 1>of those things, and so they feel very commanded or

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<v Speaker 1>controlled or led to do like these terrific, horrible things.

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<v Speaker 1>They're always overwhelmed, they're always scared. They can't form rational

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts and creative thought processes are gone. They lose the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to choose, and so they always have to have

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<v Speaker 1>somebody choose for them when they're not withdrawn, like they

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<v Speaker 1>expect a therapist to tell them what to do or

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else to tell them what to do because they

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what's going on. And so because of all

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<v Speaker 1>these different things, it's literally like living in a chaotic storm.

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<v Speaker 1>They always feel unsafe and like they can't manage their

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<v Speaker 1>own life. So imagine living like that. And how many

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<v Speaker 1>people do you know that live like that? Maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have angelic visitation, psychosis, but they literally have all

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<v Speaker 1>of those things.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not a good yep. And I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I get it, like I've been through a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 4>but you you know, you can choose. Yes, our body

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<v Speaker 4>keeps score and I do one hundred percent believe that.

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<v Speaker 4>But I also believe we can through prayer, through you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like working through things like journaling, like safe things like not.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not going to go start our own colony and

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<v Speaker 4>get fifty seven wives. Yeah No, I mean now we

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<v Speaker 4>may never they want not the answer.

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<v Speaker 1>We may start our own colony just friends, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to tell each other what to do, emboss

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<v Speaker 1>each other around and all that crazy business.

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<v Speaker 1>No, So the the key takeaway of the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>awakening versus psychosis, Awakening gives you more insight into your

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<v Speaker 1>path you're supposed to be following, and psychosis removes all

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<v Speaker 1>of that and brings in all the chaos.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I have this one picture downloaded. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>But of course, so uh neurolog neurology of mystical visions,

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<v Speaker 1>So this has something to do with your brain, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so they have found that whether it's the real

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<v Speaker 1>version or the psychosis version, the temporal lobe is always

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<v Speaker 1>involved in your brain because the temporal lobe resil regulates hearing,

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<v Speaker 1>so hearing voices, spiritual symbolism, feeling of presence, and visionary states.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you have or have had, or know someone

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<v Speaker 1>will tell you that they have had profound and vivid

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<v Speaker 1>religious experiences.

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<v Speaker 4>Which is why it's all the rage to go and

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<v Speaker 4>have you know these ayahuasca or you know, different trips

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<v Speaker 4>really personal to some people and really almost religious right experience,

422
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<v Speaker 4>I guess, right, But a couple of things. First of all,

423
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:05.039
<v Speaker 4>I do believe that they should be guided through that. Yep.

424
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:09.119
<v Speaker 4>I do believe. It also opens you up for all

425
00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:11.880
<v Speaker 4>kinds of things no matter what you do. I just

426
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:14.640
<v Speaker 4>don't think that you can be protected in a realm

427
00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:18.359
<v Speaker 4>you do not belong. You do belong there, you know.

428
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:21.559
<v Speaker 4>And occultists will tell you this. I mean they'll tell

429
00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:24.799
<v Speaker 4>you like, we don't even we can't even judge from

430
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:26.720
<v Speaker 4>one time to the next if it's going to be

431
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:28.160
<v Speaker 4>the same right one.

432
00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:33.279
<v Speaker 1>And think about think about the people who literally go

433
00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:38.960
<v Speaker 1>to like ayahuasca ceremonies, like and they've been like twenty thirty,

434
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:44.359
<v Speaker 1>forty times or whatever. You're literally supposed to keep that

435
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:49.079
<v Speaker 1>at a bare minimum, right, And what is the point

436
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:54.799
<v Speaker 1>of repeated visits, Because if you haven't grown or learned,

437
00:31:56.119 --> 00:32:03.720
<v Speaker 1>then you're literally addicted. You're ad to the process. Wow, drugs,

438
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:06.039
<v Speaker 1>but addicted to the process.

439
00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:10.480
<v Speaker 4>It's gonna make you feel I mean, obviously it's gonna

440
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:13.279
<v Speaker 4>make you feel some kind of way. And yes, you're

441
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:15.599
<v Speaker 4>going to get this great relief. And yes, I mean

442
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:18.160
<v Speaker 4>like I get it, like I get all of that.

443
00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:21.079
<v Speaker 4>But like also, then you return to real life and

444
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:24.160
<v Speaker 4>there's that let down you're going to have that. It's

445
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:25.279
<v Speaker 4>just like going on vacation.

446
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:29.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, one hundred percent you got to return and

447
00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:33.880
<v Speaker 1>then things don't get better until you change your life

448
00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:38.799
<v Speaker 1>and make them better. Yes, and so it's no different

449
00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:43.319
<v Speaker 1>than prescription drugs. They're not affix their band aid.

450
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:44.640
<v Speaker 4>Yes.

451
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:51.279
<v Speaker 1>So, so along with the brain and the temporal lobe activity,

452
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:58.039
<v Speaker 1>we also have dopamine that is involved. And sometimes during

453
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>these instances, dopamine can get a little hyper right, get

454
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:09.839
<v Speaker 1>a little get a little overactive, and that's what causes

455
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:13.079
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people to have psychosis or manias or

456
00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:18.680
<v Speaker 1>even stimulant intoxication can cause this to happen. And so

457
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:25.279
<v Speaker 1>when you're overloaded on dopamine, everything has a sign, everything

458
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:29.559
<v Speaker 1>has a meaning. Everything is so deep. Wonder why that

459
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:34.960
<v Speaker 1>seems to be the case in ayahuasca ceremonies, right, And

460
00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:40.000
<v Speaker 1>you have this grandiosity of opinion of yourself and you

461
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>know everything is divine, and you have all these missions

462
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:48.680
<v Speaker 1>that you're supposed to compete or complete, and you get

463
00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:53.599
<v Speaker 1>these auditory messages and hallucinations and stuff. And that's literally

464
00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:58.839
<v Speaker 1>because your brain is an overdrive from the dopamine.

465
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:01.599
<v Speaker 4>Real having people.

466
00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh absolutely. So you also have where you get a

467
00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:11.440
<v Speaker 1>default mode of the network suppression in your brain. And

468
00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:17.639
<v Speaker 1>so sometimes these happen during like deep meditations, cybacillin or

469
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:23.679
<v Speaker 1>LSD use near death experiences that happens as well, and

470
00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:28.719
<v Speaker 1>so it provides like a unity of your consciousness and

471
00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:34.599
<v Speaker 1>again the visions and a dissolution of your ego and

472
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:42.760
<v Speaker 1>contact with beings whether they be angelic, ancestral, or geometric,

473
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:47.559
<v Speaker 1>which I find to be highly interesting and sometimes.

474
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:51.199
<v Speaker 4>You Yeah, that happens a lot, which is crazy, I.

475
00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Was going to say, And it's very strange. If you

476
00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:56.760
<v Speaker 1>talk to people that have had near death experiences, the

477
00:34:56.800 --> 00:35:01.360
<v Speaker 1>things that they will describe to you, yes, of and

478
00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:06.400
<v Speaker 1>some of them are uber, uber, uber colorful. So you

479
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:10.920
<v Speaker 1>also have r E m intrusion. That's your rapid eye

480
00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:15.679
<v Speaker 1>movement stage of your sleep, which is the reparative and

481
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:20.159
<v Speaker 1>the restorative. So if you're not getting to that r

482
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:24.400
<v Speaker 1>EM stage of sleep every night and you have sleep deprivation,

483
00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:28.320
<v Speaker 1>especially over long periods of time, it builds up and

484
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:32.559
<v Speaker 1>builds up, and so people will have dreams while they're

485
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:39.320
<v Speaker 1>awake and they'll see whether it's vivid beings or divine guidance.

486
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:44.239
<v Speaker 1>They'll see shadow figures. Mmm, that's unds familiar in the

487
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:50.639
<v Speaker 1>podcast world, out body sensations, same kind of thing, and

488
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:58.800
<v Speaker 1>that also goes along with sleep paralysis and feeling like

489
00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:02.800
<v Speaker 1>you're being held down, feeling like you're being attacked, because again,

490
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:06.719
<v Speaker 1>your dopamine is messed up as well, So when you're

491
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:11.719
<v Speaker 1>sleep deprived, your body's not healing, so all the toxins

492
00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:16.719
<v Speaker 1>and all the stuff is whirling around like a tornado

493
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:20.360
<v Speaker 1>in your body. And that is just a storm for

494
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:22.039
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of things to happen.

495
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:27.840
<v Speaker 4>Sleep deprivation is obviously very critical, or they wouldn't use

496
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:33.239
<v Speaker 4>it in torture. So yeah, guy's got to sleep.

497
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:41.440
<v Speaker 1>So historical and religious examples that happened, of course, there

498
00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:45.960
<v Speaker 1>were the Christian mystics, and so there was Saint Teresa

499
00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:52.280
<v Speaker 1>of Avila, Hildegarde of Benjon Joan of Arc was considered

500
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:56.559
<v Speaker 1>to be one of them, and it said that their

501
00:36:56.679 --> 00:37:03.320
<v Speaker 1>visions may have included migraine seizures, fasting, which I could

502
00:37:03.360 --> 00:37:05.840
<v Speaker 1>see the fasting because back in those days there was

503
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:09.840
<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of food trauma, which I can see

504
00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:16.159
<v Speaker 1>that happening as well, and sleep deprivation. Yet the experiences

505
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:21.760
<v Speaker 1>were integrated and purposeful, so there wasn't really psychosis on

506
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:28.719
<v Speaker 1>their part. It was actually the real thing, the awakenings, right. Yeah,

507
00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:31.960
<v Speaker 1>so m we kind of talked about this a little

508
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:36.639
<v Speaker 1>before the show. Islamic mystics, and yes, a lot of

509
00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:41.760
<v Speaker 1>things religions and belief systems are very very closely related.

510
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:48.280
<v Speaker 1>And so the Sufi traditions emphasize visions and divine communication,

511
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:55.000
<v Speaker 1>and so they would actually do this by chanting, fasting

512
00:37:55.519 --> 00:38:01.880
<v Speaker 1>and rhythmic breathing and kind of bringing these things on themselves,

513
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:07.000
<v Speaker 1>which I'm not a fan of manifesting at all, just

514
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:10.880
<v Speaker 1>not And so what are they bringing in?

515
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:16.079
<v Speaker 4>Fascinating? If people want to deep dive something fascinating, they

516
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:16.920
<v Speaker 4>are fascinating.

517
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:21.719
<v Speaker 1>So I'm just saying, what are you? What are you?

518
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:25.440
<v Speaker 1>What are you bringing in on our pasts? Yeah, So

519
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:30.079
<v Speaker 1>then you have the indigenous people, and so they believed

520
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:36.599
<v Speaker 1>in spirit guides and ancestors and guarding a guardian beings.

521
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:41.320
<v Speaker 1>And this happened with the you know, through sweat lodges

522
00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:45.480
<v Speaker 1>and fasting quest which they fasted in the Bible as well,

523
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:49.119
<v Speaker 1>fast and pray. That's that's a thing. But if you're

524
00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:54.719
<v Speaker 1>doing the Bible fasting and praying, I'm hoping that it

525
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:57.760
<v Speaker 1>is a real.

526
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:02.519
<v Speaker 4>And just like awaken and if some of these substances

527
00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:07.559
<v Speaker 4>are in your body fasting even the wine, just wine,

528
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:12.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, from like your communion, they talk about like

529
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:15.159
<v Speaker 4>that being really strong. And like even with Joseph Smith,

530
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:17.159
<v Speaker 4>they talk about how they would fast. You know, this

531
00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:21.000
<v Speaker 4>is in the secret parts of what he was doing.

532
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:23.119
<v Speaker 4>But then they would drink this wine and they would

533
00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:25.519
<v Speaker 4>be all wild because they had fasted all this whole time.

534
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:27.400
<v Speaker 4>In the school of the Profits.

535
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:30.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, because it speeds up your metabolism and so

536
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:34.480
<v Speaker 1>what does that do you know what I mean, clears

537
00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:36.840
<v Speaker 1>everything out to make way for the cuckoo.

538
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:39.559
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah.

539
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:43.599
<v Speaker 1>So they also use this with plant medicines and the

540
00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:48.599
<v Speaker 1>indigenous people's they have tobacco ceremonies and you know, all

541
00:39:48.679 --> 00:39:51.519
<v Speaker 1>kinds of other things that they did. And the next

542
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:56.199
<v Speaker 1>one I think is fascinating. It's the witch trials in

543
00:39:56.360 --> 00:40:02.079
<v Speaker 1>medieval Europe, and so a lot lot of quote visions

544
00:40:03.320 --> 00:40:08.880
<v Speaker 1>of angels or demons were actually from ergot poisoning, which

545
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:11.760
<v Speaker 1>I did do some looking into that before, and I

546
00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:13.599
<v Speaker 1>find that highly fascinating.

547
00:40:14.840 --> 00:40:18.280
<v Speaker 4>It really is interesting what was going on there.

548
00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:24.039
<v Speaker 1>So they had a coase episodes of psychosis and hysteria.

549
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:29.960
<v Speaker 1>They were going through starvation and getting fevers, and religious

550
00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:33.639
<v Speaker 1>extremism was the time of the day, you know. And

551
00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:37.280
<v Speaker 1>so governments being the way that they are, and they

552
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:41.199
<v Speaker 1>love to control and manipulate and instill fear in people.

553
00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:47.159
<v Speaker 1>They know these things, and so especially during the Salem

554
00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:51.559
<v Speaker 1>witch Trials time, they the government used these things to

555
00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:57.760
<v Speaker 1>execute people or to do purges or social control, whichill

556
00:40:57.880 --> 00:40:59.880
<v Speaker 1>goes on to this day.

557
00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:03.159
<v Speaker 4>The ones that got me were the ones that got

558
00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:08.400
<v Speaker 4>accused because not because they did something, because their spiritual

559
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:12.960
<v Speaker 4>self in their sleep, realm of this other person, not them,

560
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:17.119
<v Speaker 4>came to them in their sleep and did some stuff.

561
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:20.079
<v Speaker 4>How what like okay.

562
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:23.679
<v Speaker 1>So that would be like I was, or you were

563
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:27.360
<v Speaker 1>dreaming and you were dreaming that I came to you

564
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:32.159
<v Speaker 1>and did something. I pushed youth and then I got

565
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:35.360
<v Speaker 1>tried and burned at the stake because you saw me

566
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:36.199
<v Speaker 1>in a dream.

567
00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:39.119
<v Speaker 4>Isn't it funny? It's not burned at the steak anymore.

568
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:43.239
<v Speaker 4>It's all hangings. And I think this is a real mandela.

569
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:47.239
<v Speaker 4>I remember vividly these people getting burned.

570
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:50.039
<v Speaker 1>Yes, absolutely, they got burned at the stage.

571
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:53.800
<v Speaker 4>Now they're hangings, and I'm like, that's really weird. I

572
00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:59.679
<v Speaker 4>don't remember about this whole hanging business, but whatever. But yeah,

573
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:02.360
<v Speaker 4>the way trials I did do. I don't want to

574
00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:04.760
<v Speaker 4>bring up Joseph too much, but his family does show

575
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:08.119
<v Speaker 4>up here. They really are from Salem area, not from

576
00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:10.159
<v Speaker 4>where they like to you and say, but catch that

577
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:12.800
<v Speaker 4>episode on my channel, because I don't want to go

578
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:16.719
<v Speaker 4>into that whole thing, but family's there. Very strange.

579
00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:23.119
<v Speaker 1>So, because you know, we had talked about before that

580
00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:28.079
<v Speaker 1>like any kind of like deep seated traumas or whatever

581
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:36.239
<v Speaker 1>create this protector thing or heavenly guardians, angels, glowing beings,

582
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:41.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, comforting voices, all those kind of things. They're

583
00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:46.239
<v Speaker 1>not psychosis because they don't have the other symptoms with them.

584
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:49.480
<v Speaker 1>But like I said, the brain creates them as a

585
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:56.519
<v Speaker 1>safety thing because they're protective over us and whatever. And

586
00:42:56.559 --> 00:43:01.079
<v Speaker 1>so you can be traumatized to the point where it

587
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:07.920
<v Speaker 1>becomes psychosis. But that's when you start hearing these things

588
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:11.679
<v Speaker 1>that are supposed to be your protectors tell you go

589
00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:17.599
<v Speaker 1>kill your noisy neighbors, you know, go stab someone on

590
00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:21.119
<v Speaker 1>the subway, go have sex with a dog or you

591
00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:23.800
<v Speaker 1>know whatever. Sorry, that was great, but.

592
00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:29.519
<v Speaker 4>I mean they've done these where it gets worse. Uh yeah,

593
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:32.039
<v Speaker 4>and so it's a real thing, you know, I mean

594
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:34.679
<v Speaker 4>this is real that people have done that exact thing,

595
00:43:35.159 --> 00:43:38.920
<v Speaker 4>or you know, sacrificing your first born or then I

596
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:40.440
<v Speaker 4>mean they made whole cults on this.

597
00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, absolutely, and so you know that's when it

598
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:50.519
<v Speaker 1>crosses the line and changes and and you you're so

599
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:55.840
<v Speaker 1>your psyche is so shattered that you like, are not

600
00:43:56.039 --> 00:44:01.280
<v Speaker 1>your own person anymore. You're just a controlled mechanism. Which again,

601
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:08.159
<v Speaker 1>think about mass formation psychosis. That's a real thing. And

602
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:11.280
<v Speaker 1>so can you have a whole group of people that

603
00:44:11.360 --> 00:44:17.000
<v Speaker 1>you're controlling at one time that are you know thinking

604
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:19.360
<v Speaker 1>that absolutely.

605
00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:23.800
<v Speaker 4>We definitely have seen that before. Yes, yes, and not

606
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:28.079
<v Speaker 4>only then. Right, Well, we're being snarky about twenty twenty,

607
00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:31.880
<v Speaker 4>but you know, it happens in colts in general. It

608
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:33.480
<v Speaker 4>happens in religion in general.

609
00:44:33.639 --> 00:44:36.039
<v Speaker 1>I was going to say churches. A lot of churches

610
00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:42.639
<v Speaker 1>is that way. And if you ever hear your preacher,

611
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:47.000
<v Speaker 1>pastor whatever they want to call themselves in the place

612
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:50.960
<v Speaker 1>that you go to worship, you won't get to heaven

613
00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:57.199
<v Speaker 1>unless you do what I say, run because that is

614
00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:03.320
<v Speaker 1>a form of psychosis because people get so indoctrinated and

615
00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:07.599
<v Speaker 1>worshiping the leaders of the church, whereas there it's the

616
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:11.599
<v Speaker 1>pastor the priest, you know, whoever it is that when

617
00:45:11.599 --> 00:45:15.800
<v Speaker 1>they start speaking things like that, that is false prophecy,

618
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:20.880
<v Speaker 1>that's false doctrine, and they are trying to brainwash and

619
00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:24.239
<v Speaker 1>manipulate you because it's a means of control, and fear.

620
00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:27.639
<v Speaker 4>Control isn't God.

621
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:30.239
<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent ever, No.

622
00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:34.599
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't mean there's not guidelines. But when it's forceful control,

623
00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:38.519
<v Speaker 4>like oh you will do this, you know, it's it's

624
00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:43.360
<v Speaker 4>usually oppression. Like at that level, it's something different. I

625
00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:47.280
<v Speaker 4>won't say every time, but maybe you know ninety percent

626
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:47.840
<v Speaker 4>of the time.

627
00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:52.440
<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna say, and this is probably gonna get

628
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:56.000
<v Speaker 1>some people's panies and a bunch, but if you have

629
00:45:56.079 --> 00:46:01.840
<v Speaker 1>a church that is demanding a certain percentage of your

630
00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:06.880
<v Speaker 1>income for tithing, I want you to think back in

631
00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:10.519
<v Speaker 1>the Bible, did people have a lot of money? Did

632
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:14.519
<v Speaker 1>they have savings account and checking accounts? No, they did not,

633
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:19.679
<v Speaker 1>And so your tithing is not the tithing that's in

634
00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:25.519
<v Speaker 1>the church tithing And during the Bible times were linens,

635
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:32.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, any kind of fabric oil, olive oil, essential oils, spices, herbs,

636
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:38.119
<v Speaker 1>your time, things like that. Helping other people. That is tithing.

637
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:42.000
<v Speaker 1>It is not demand a church demanding that you give

638
00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:43.679
<v Speaker 1>them twenty percent of your income.

639
00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:46.840
<v Speaker 4>Well you need to know where that money goes because

640
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:50.679
<v Speaker 4>one hundred percent, you know, if the enzyme peak scandal

641
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:52.800
<v Speaker 4>is not something you've heard of. For the LDS, and

642
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:54.679
<v Speaker 4>I do pick on them because I was one, not

643
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:57.440
<v Speaker 4>because they're the only one. It's all of them, you know.

644
00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:01.280
<v Speaker 4>I tell you that all the time, and they still

645
00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:03.280
<v Speaker 4>just say you hate the Marmons, And I'm like, I

646
00:47:03.320 --> 00:47:08.000
<v Speaker 4>hate organized corporate people that pretend to be religions.

647
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Right, masquerading as religion because it's not. Religion and faith

648
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:15.440
<v Speaker 1>are not the same thing.

649
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:18.880
<v Speaker 4>No so, and so it can be scary. Go help

650
00:47:18.880 --> 00:47:23.079
<v Speaker 4>people yourself, or you know, go take that money yourself

651
00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:26.519
<v Speaker 4>and do something good with it for people. Also, remember

652
00:47:26.599 --> 00:47:30.280
<v Speaker 4>God said he doesn't want it if you didn't want

653
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:30.760
<v Speaker 4>to give it.

654
00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Right, So if it's not put on your heart to give,

655
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:40.679
<v Speaker 1>then don't m h and don't make yourself for to

656
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:41.880
<v Speaker 1>make someone else rich.

657
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:44.719
<v Speaker 4>Yes, because they are getting rich.

658
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:49.360
<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent. Look at the take a look at

659
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:53.519
<v Speaker 1>the place that a lot of pastors or preachers live,

660
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:56.360
<v Speaker 1>and it is way better than what you are in.

661
00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:00.800
<v Speaker 4>So wow, and let alone. Like I said, the enzyme

662
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:03.639
<v Speaker 4>Peak scandal with the shell companies and the billions of

663
00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:06.679
<v Speaker 4>dollars that they hid for the end of the world,

664
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<v Speaker 4>one hundred percent, I don't think God needs money at

665
00:48:11.320 --> 00:48:11.760
<v Speaker 4>that point.

666
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:15.719
<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent. Yeah, So that's hmmm, kind of sounds

667
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:17.239
<v Speaker 1>like laundering scheme.

668
00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:19.960
<v Speaker 4>Hello yeah, church, yep, exactly.

669
00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:28.000
<v Speaker 1>So not only religion and churches and governments and states,

670
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:37.079
<v Speaker 1>but medical institutions and things of that nature use all

671
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:40.800
<v Speaker 1>of these things. And they got to create that fear

672
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:45.599
<v Speaker 1>based narrative about the invisible enemy that's coming to get you,

673
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:52.559
<v Speaker 1>whether it's you know, a pandemic, an epidemic, a demon

674
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:57.840
<v Speaker 1>of which, a political party, another religion, a different kind

675
00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:00.440
<v Speaker 1>of people, whatever it is. They got to still that

676
00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:07.519
<v Speaker 1>fear first foremost, and so that causes the moral panic

677
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:12.039
<v Speaker 1>and people get a little cuckoo. Then they got to

678
00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:16.039
<v Speaker 1>introduce some kind of savior. Right, think about our political

679
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:20.159
<v Speaker 1>system all the time. So it's a king at church,

680
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:27.400
<v Speaker 1>a government science bill gates the CDC it's always somebody

681
00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:31.280
<v Speaker 1>that's going to save you because you're too dumb to

682
00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:33.840
<v Speaker 1>figure your stuff out for yourself. You always got to

683
00:49:34.039 --> 00:49:38.519
<v Speaker 1>have that savior come in and help you out. And

684
00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:43.280
<v Speaker 1>then it's the enforcement of group obedience. Hellose, social distancing

685
00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:47.320
<v Speaker 1>rules and all of that stuff. So you have to

686
00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:53.639
<v Speaker 1>have conformity, so they can't have varying thoughts or ideas.

687
00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:57.519
<v Speaker 1>Everybody has to obey, which is exactly what they do now.

688
00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:03.199
<v Speaker 1>They're trying to enforce like misinformation punishments and all of

689
00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:07.039
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. When the government is the biggest propagator of

690
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:13.320
<v Speaker 1>misinformation on the planet, so got to watch out for that.

691
00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:18.159
<v Speaker 4>Plus and they own both sides, so just go study

692
00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:20.360
<v Speaker 4>the Bolshevik Revolution.

693
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:27.119
<v Speaker 1>A hundred answer is yes, yes, hundred percent yes. And

694
00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:31.239
<v Speaker 1>so during this time of obedience and all of that stuff,

695
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:35.639
<v Speaker 1>they also do a lot of scapegoating. It's Heidie's fault,

696
00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:39.719
<v Speaker 1>it's my fault, it's you know, somebody that We've always

697
00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:42.679
<v Speaker 1>got to blame somebody else for things that we do wrong.

698
00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:47.199
<v Speaker 1>So that's that's a common thing, and suspension of critical

699
00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:53.079
<v Speaker 1>thought processes that happens a lot in society. And but

700
00:50:53.199 --> 00:51:00.079
<v Speaker 1>then they can scoop in hello, Galien dialectic. Create the

701
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:04.760
<v Speaker 1>problem right, watch your reaction. Here's the solution. Now, they're

702
00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:09.159
<v Speaker 1>going to offer you redemption if you just obey what

703
00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:14.480
<v Speaker 1>we say, you'll be safe if you take these drugs

704
00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:19.000
<v Speaker 1>or take these vaccinations, or vote for this person, or

705
00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:23.800
<v Speaker 1>do whatever it's for the good of public health and safety.

706
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:28.719
<v Speaker 4>So well, and it's terrifying to know that they're always

707
00:51:28.760 --> 00:51:33.079
<v Speaker 4>on both sides of the coin. You guys have to understand,

708
00:51:33.119 --> 00:51:35.239
<v Speaker 4>because my mom has a hard time with us. She's like,

709
00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:39.039
<v Speaker 4>but they did this good thing. Or my husband will said,

710
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:41.079
<v Speaker 4>but look at the gas prices. I'm like, yeah, but

711
00:51:41.119 --> 00:51:45.679
<v Speaker 4>look at the food prices. Like they're just always moving.

712
00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:49.119
<v Speaker 4>It's never really what it seems to be. They just

713
00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:53.559
<v Speaker 4>shuffle the other thing right enough.

714
00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:57.400
<v Speaker 1>They put that bright, shiny object out in front right now,

715
00:51:57.639 --> 00:51:59.880
<v Speaker 1>so the hoping that you won't look at this other

716
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:02.320
<v Speaker 1>thing that's still a problem. Yep.

717
00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:04.159
<v Speaker 4>They don't want to check in anything. They want you

718
00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:06.159
<v Speaker 4>just like this picture, right.

719
00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:14.440
<v Speaker 1>And so this of course has delusional belief systems and

720
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:19.639
<v Speaker 1>a cult structures. So if you're like, I'm a staunch

721
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:25.519
<v Speaker 1>this or that public or what am I trying to

722
00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:30.440
<v Speaker 1>say politically speaking, or you're staunch this or that religious

723
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:36.440
<v Speaker 1>speaking and whatever, and you can't concede to anybody else's

724
00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:41.519
<v Speaker 1>point of view or anything like that. They know that

725
00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:45.079
<v Speaker 1>they've got you at that point, right, and so that was.

726
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:48.519
<v Speaker 4>Why they want it. Yeah, that's why they created these sects.

727
00:52:48.559 --> 00:52:56.039
<v Speaker 4>Whether it's like race or religion or money or whatever

728
00:52:56.119 --> 00:52:58.239
<v Speaker 4>the thing is, it's honestly so dumb.

729
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So they've always got to keep you fearful and divided, right,

730
00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:06.400
<v Speaker 1>because if they had people that were cohesive and together,

731
00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:09.719
<v Speaker 1>they would never be able to manipulate us in the

732
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:15.199
<v Speaker 1>way and the manners that they do present because of

733
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:21.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, this crossing the boundaries into the psychosis portion,

734
00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:27.880
<v Speaker 1>like I said, the chronic fear, the isolation, propaganda, the

735
00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:32.719
<v Speaker 1>panic separating you from family members and things like that

736
00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:39.760
<v Speaker 1>because of belief systems, religious extremism and things like that. So,

737
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:45.039
<v Speaker 1>because people get so ingrained and entrenched in the psychosis pattern,

738
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:48.800
<v Speaker 1>of course you got the paranoia that creeps in and

739
00:53:48.800 --> 00:53:56.679
<v Speaker 1>then got like delusions that you're constantly being persecuted, you know,

740
00:53:56.800 --> 00:53:59.400
<v Speaker 1>so they got attack because what people do, it's the

741
00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:03.800
<v Speaker 1>fighter thing that turns on. And so when your body's

742
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:07.000
<v Speaker 1>in that constant state of fear and panic. What do

743
00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:12.480
<v Speaker 1>you do? You lash out always, whether it's bad verbal abuse,

744
00:54:12.599 --> 00:54:17.599
<v Speaker 1>bad physical abuse, bad behavior in general. That's all part

745
00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:19.159
<v Speaker 1>of this unfortunately.

746
00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:25.079
<v Speaker 4>Well, and remember institutions do this like, oh the Mormons

747
00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:29.920
<v Speaker 4>are so persecuted, Oh, the Catholics are so persecuted. They

748
00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:31.480
<v Speaker 4>use it.

749
00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:36.440
<v Speaker 1>And if they can manipulate you enough, they can get

750
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:39.320
<v Speaker 1>you to give up your money, they can give you

751
00:54:39.360 --> 00:54:42.760
<v Speaker 1>get you to give up your critical thought and all

752
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:46.440
<v Speaker 1>of that stuff and your individualism and what makes you

753
00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:50.239
<v Speaker 1>you because of the way that God make you. And

754
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:57.599
<v Speaker 1>so then you're conformist to their occultism or school of thought,

755
00:54:57.719 --> 00:55:01.400
<v Speaker 1>and you're no longer have close connection with God.

756
00:55:02.280 --> 00:55:03.960
<v Speaker 4>Hello Rockefeller schools.

757
00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:17.559
<v Speaker 1>Yep. So, before medicine got involved, angelic visions were actually normal, right,

758
00:55:18.840 --> 00:55:23.440
<v Speaker 1>and often honored traditions and lots of different cultures and

759
00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:28.519
<v Speaker 1>things like that, and so especially ancient and medieval cultures,

760
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:35.119
<v Speaker 1>they had visions of the angels, spirits, ancestor or gods.

761
00:55:35.679 --> 00:55:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Of course, this is back in the day when there

762
00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:41.440
<v Speaker 1>were gods multiple even though.

763
00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:45.159
<v Speaker 4>That's me to come back, that's a.

764
00:55:47.159 --> 00:55:50.880
<v Speaker 1>So back in the day, though nobody called this a

765
00:55:51.320 --> 00:55:59.079
<v Speaker 1>disorder or psychosis or whatever, it wasn't until the birth

766
00:55:59.079 --> 00:56:04.039
<v Speaker 1>of psychiatry and the medical institutions that this became to

767
00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:08.400
<v Speaker 1>be a diagnosis of people. And so even if you

768
00:56:08.559 --> 00:56:14.039
<v Speaker 1>did have a true, real spiritual awakening, if for some

769
00:56:14.119 --> 00:56:19.000
<v Speaker 1>reason you told a practitioner that at the hospital, they

770
00:56:19.039 --> 00:56:24.480
<v Speaker 1>would call for a psych consult and why because they're

771
00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:30.000
<v Speaker 1>not equipped or educated enough. All they are is indoctrinated,

772
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:34.440
<v Speaker 1>and so they treat you as a whole like a group,

773
00:56:34.519 --> 00:56:39.239
<v Speaker 1>whole population, instead of an individual person, and so they

774
00:56:39.280 --> 00:56:43.639
<v Speaker 1>don't know what questions to ask. They can't break that down.

775
00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:50.000
<v Speaker 1>And so during the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, that's when

776
00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:56.400
<v Speaker 1>the word or term madness begin to replace spiritual experiences.

777
00:56:57.679 --> 00:57:01.679
<v Speaker 1>And they do this slowly as a process, just like

778
00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:07.599
<v Speaker 1>they do with introducing the word like infection or things

779
00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:10.639
<v Speaker 1>like that, because that was not around until like the

780
00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:14.800
<v Speaker 1>lowery Pastor era and stuff like that. Those words did

781
00:57:14.840 --> 00:57:17.760
<v Speaker 1>not exist, and so they got to introduce things slowly

782
00:57:17.880 --> 00:57:19.239
<v Speaker 1>so people don't freak out.

783
00:57:21.079 --> 00:57:24.920
<v Speaker 4>And so not to say that some people weren't crazy, right,

784
00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:25.480
<v Speaker 4>I mean.

785
00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:29.639
<v Speaker 1>What there definitely are some people. And the person I'm

786
00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:35.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about is definitely got the psychosis version and

787
00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:36.880
<v Speaker 1>not the awakening part.

788
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:40.719
<v Speaker 4>Right, and their cures when this all came out, like

789
00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:44.119
<v Speaker 4>she's going to go into right about now, one of

790
00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:47.199
<v Speaker 4>them for frigid women was oral sex by the doctor,

791
00:57:47.360 --> 00:57:50.320
<v Speaker 4>So you might want to check your stats when we're

792
00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:51.639
<v Speaker 4>going into crazy.

793
00:57:51.320 --> 00:57:57.559
<v Speaker 1>Bill, right, And again, do you trust the science? Do

794
00:57:57.639 --> 00:57:59.039
<v Speaker 1>you trust the doctors?

795
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:00.320
<v Speaker 4>You know?

796
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:03.199
<v Speaker 1>Do you trust anybody when you tell them that you

797
00:58:03.320 --> 00:58:05.840
<v Speaker 1>had this or are they gonna like call and report

798
00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:09.119
<v Speaker 1>you as a red flag law because they think you're nuts?

799
00:58:09.840 --> 00:58:13.239
<v Speaker 4>And can both be true? Can you have a real

800
00:58:14.599 --> 00:58:19.639
<v Speaker 4>situation where you had an awakening and be crazy?

801
00:58:19.840 --> 00:58:20.119
<v Speaker 1>Yep?

802
00:58:20.519 --> 00:58:23.920
<v Speaker 4>Can you have that and not be crazy? Yep? Look,

803
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:28.599
<v Speaker 4>only you know what's going on with you, and if

804
00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:31.960
<v Speaker 4>it leads you to you know these things, it shouldn't

805
00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:34.159
<v Speaker 4>be talking to you every day, it shouldn't. You shouldn't

806
00:58:34.199 --> 00:58:39.079
<v Speaker 4>have to sacrifice a goat once a year on the fall. No,

807
00:58:39.400 --> 00:58:41.480
<v Speaker 4>let's get real. You know what you're doing, and if

808
00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:43.679
<v Speaker 4>you want to do it, go knock yourself out. But

809
00:58:43.840 --> 00:58:47.119
<v Speaker 4>quit trying to say it was benevolent. I mean, look,

810
00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:52.239
<v Speaker 4>it's not really that okay. If you're inducing it in

811
00:58:52.280 --> 00:58:55.719
<v Speaker 4>any way, shape or form with drugs, with fear, with

812
00:58:56.159 --> 00:58:58.480
<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of ways, right, the temple is one

813
00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:02.880
<v Speaker 4>of them. Like they just use fear now, right, they

814
00:59:02.960 --> 00:59:05.159
<v Speaker 4>use use drugs, they used to use whatever, they still

815
00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:08.199
<v Speaker 4>do use that in a lot of cultures. And that's fine.

816
00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:11.280
<v Speaker 4>Like I'm not dissing anybody's whatever you want to do,

817
00:59:11.280 --> 00:59:15.960
<v Speaker 4>do that, and I'm just telling you quit leading others

818
00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:19.840
<v Speaker 4>without them. You can tell them all day long, that's great.

819
00:59:20.239 --> 00:59:24.519
<v Speaker 4>Let them choose. That's all. Well informed decisions make really

820
00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:25.880
<v Speaker 4>good decisions.

821
00:59:25.400 --> 00:59:30.599
<v Speaker 1>A hundred person. And remember the key piece between an

822
00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:36.840
<v Speaker 1>awakening and a psychosis is the having or not having

823
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:39.400
<v Speaker 1>critical thought processes.

824
00:59:40.079 --> 00:59:45.360
<v Speaker 4>And you shouldn't change everything you are. That's weird. You

825
00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:49.559
<v Speaker 4>have a core and whether you are repaired from trauma

826
00:59:49.679 --> 00:59:53.639
<v Speaker 4>or whatever, because that's me. I always do the example

827
00:59:53.679 --> 00:59:55.960
<v Speaker 4>with the gold on the plate, and it's more beautiful

828
00:59:55.960 --> 00:59:59.280
<v Speaker 4>and more strong, you know, the Japanese you know stuff

829
00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:03.199
<v Speaker 4>that they would fix that way. But also that plate

830
01:00:03.320 --> 01:00:05.639
<v Speaker 4>is still made up the same thing. That plate is

831
01:00:05.679 --> 01:00:08.760
<v Speaker 4>still the same as it was. It's just a little

832
01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:12.320
<v Speaker 4>bit different in certain areas. Not the whole plate that's

833
01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:14.519
<v Speaker 4>on the baby out with the bathwater.

834
01:00:14.519 --> 01:00:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, And sanctification takes time, and so if you

835
01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:24.880
<v Speaker 1>did have a real spiritual awakening. That's great, but you

836
01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:27.280
<v Speaker 1>should also know that God's going to lead you on

837
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:31.079
<v Speaker 1>the path and fix the things that need to be

838
01:00:31.199 --> 01:00:33.559
<v Speaker 1>repaired in you. But it's not going to happen overnight

839
01:00:33.599 --> 01:00:36.519
<v Speaker 1>because you had your whole lifetime to be a boob,

840
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:37.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, and.

841
01:00:38.480 --> 01:00:40.559
<v Speaker 4>You have to do the work. It's hard work.

842
01:00:40.679 --> 01:00:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, you gotta want. You got to want to be different.

843
01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:49.320
<v Speaker 1>And so you know, during during this time, when they

844
01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:55.360
<v Speaker 1>introduced madness to replace the spiritual experiences, they also brought

845
01:00:55.400 --> 01:01:00.800
<v Speaker 1>on the terms hysteria and melancholy. So if you're for

846
01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:07.239
<v Speaker 1>any particular reason, you now fall into the psychosis.

847
01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:10.039
<v Speaker 4>These guys don't look like they should be saying anything

848
01:01:10.079 --> 01:01:12.199
<v Speaker 4>to anybody, but because.

849
01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:14.159
<v Speaker 1>They look crazy themselves.

850
01:01:13.559 --> 01:01:17.199
<v Speaker 4>I'll show yeah, yeah, wow, we'll get there.

851
01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:22.000
<v Speaker 1>So during the nineteenth century is when we had the

852
01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:25.440
<v Speaker 1>birth of psychiatry, and so this is where it truly

853
01:01:25.559 --> 01:01:32.840
<v Speaker 1>became a medical thing. So we had several doctors that

854
01:01:33.679 --> 01:01:39.559
<v Speaker 1>of course they're all foreign doctors that category categorized mental

855
01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:48.719
<v Speaker 1>health symptoms for the first time and coin terms like hallucination, delusion, paranoia, mania,

856
01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:56.800
<v Speaker 1>and melancholia. So this dude looks yeah, they all look like.

857
01:01:57.719 --> 01:02:00.719
<v Speaker 4>The thyroid disorder. I'm diagnosing him right now.

858
01:02:01.920 --> 01:02:05.199
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, it looks like he's been, oh,

859
01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:19.960
<v Speaker 1>participating in extracurricular activities with a below member that's very strange,

860
01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:23.199
<v Speaker 1>looking like creepy creepy dudes.

861
01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:24.480
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah.

862
01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:30.039
<v Speaker 1>And so this was somebody would come in and they

863
01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:35.639
<v Speaker 1>said they heard an angel speak. They would automatic they say, oh,

864
01:02:35.920 --> 01:02:42.480
<v Speaker 1>auditory hallucinations. You're hearing things. And someone if someone believed

865
01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:45.960
<v Speaker 1>that God gave them a mission or a message, that

866
01:02:46.159 --> 01:02:51.440
<v Speaker 1>was a dilutional psychosis, and so they automatically jumped to

867
01:02:53.320 --> 01:02:58.679
<v Speaker 1>deeming people psychotic that may have just really had the

868
01:02:58.760 --> 01:03:00.599
<v Speaker 1>spiritual awakening aspect.

869
01:03:01.679 --> 01:03:05.599
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I love this one. This says a mystic is

870
01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:08.960
<v Speaker 4>a hysteric who has met her confessor before her doctor.

871
01:03:10.719 --> 01:03:14.119
<v Speaker 4>And so yeah, I'm not saying all mysticism is bad.

872
01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:21.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying occultism is bad. No different, Yeah, so we together.

873
01:03:22.920 --> 01:03:28.519
<v Speaker 1>The twentieth century is when the DSM which is created,

874
01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:33.159
<v Speaker 1>and that is the literal psychiatric Bible, that is the

875
01:03:33.559 --> 01:03:40.159
<v Speaker 1>diagnosing manual and all the things. And so in nineteen

876
01:03:40.280 --> 01:03:44.480
<v Speaker 1>fifty two that was the first edition, and so religious

877
01:03:44.519 --> 01:03:52.280
<v Speaker 1>themes appeared under psychotic disorders schizophrenic reactions and mania actions.

878
01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:57.119
<v Speaker 1>And then in nineteen sixty eight they were still kind

879
01:03:57.119 --> 01:04:04.199
<v Speaker 1>of vague categories, but religious delusions are mentioned and classic

880
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:10.360
<v Speaker 1>features like again this schizophrenia, manic states, and paranoia. But

881
01:04:10.559 --> 01:04:15.760
<v Speaker 1>then in nineteen eighty we changed, and we changed a

882
01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:23.800
<v Speaker 1>great deal. So then it becomes where religion supposedly became irrelevant.

883
01:04:24.039 --> 01:04:27.000
<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't the theme that mattered, but the loss

884
01:04:27.039 --> 01:04:33.400
<v Speaker 1>of reality. And so this is where religious delusion becomes

885
01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:42.840
<v Speaker 1>a formal coded diagnosis in their book. So isn't it

886
01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:43.800
<v Speaker 1>nice again?

887
01:04:44.840 --> 01:04:45.079
<v Speaker 4>Uh?

888
01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:49.000
<v Speaker 1>And there wasn't like a special breakdown of what qualified

889
01:04:49.039 --> 01:04:53.760
<v Speaker 1>you to be under this religious delusion category. People would

890
01:04:53.800 --> 01:04:56.920
<v Speaker 1>freak out if they probably knew, like all of the

891
01:04:57.039 --> 01:05:01.239
<v Speaker 1>dsms and all of the new diagnos codes for medical

892
01:05:01.320 --> 01:05:07.719
<v Speaker 1>that they have added for anti vaxxers refusing a vaccination,

893
01:05:09.400 --> 01:05:12.920
<v Speaker 1>not up to date on your boosters, like all the

894
01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:21.920
<v Speaker 1>things are in there now. Oh yeah, So why religious

895
01:05:23.039 --> 01:05:31.360
<v Speaker 1>or angelic themes become diagnosable. They don't diagnose the belief.

896
01:05:32.039 --> 01:05:35.800
<v Speaker 1>They diagnose when the belief is rigid or fixed, like

897
01:05:35.840 --> 01:05:42.119
<v Speaker 1>we said, disconnection from reality and pairs functioning, causes danger,

898
01:05:43.280 --> 01:05:50.599
<v Speaker 1>or is not culturally shared. So if your beliefs are

899
01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:53.920
<v Speaker 1>not the same beliefs as a massive population.

900
01:05:54.199 --> 01:05:56.800
<v Speaker 4>Oh me, so it's me in Utah, and.

901
01:05:57.199 --> 01:06:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's you, and it's me as I'll be probably

902
01:06:02.719 --> 01:06:05.599
<v Speaker 1>in that category as well, because I don't attend a

903
01:06:05.719 --> 01:06:12.840
<v Speaker 1>church in a building any longer. So interesting that they

904
01:06:14.639 --> 01:06:19.599
<v Speaker 1>saw that, But this psychiatry field saw how predictable this

905
01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:25.400
<v Speaker 1>was and how easy it was to classify people with

906
01:06:25.559 --> 01:06:35.480
<v Speaker 1>religious beliefs and stuff under psychotic disorders. So modern day

907
01:06:36.760 --> 01:06:44.840
<v Speaker 1>how it's diagnosed currently, uh huh. Their loss of anxiet,

908
01:06:45.079 --> 01:06:51.440
<v Speaker 1>the inability to function fear paranoia commands to act a fixed,

909
01:06:51.599 --> 01:07:02.880
<v Speaker 1>unshakable interpretation. And the controversy surrounding this is because psychiatry

910
01:07:03.599 --> 01:07:13.079
<v Speaker 1>medicinalized spiritual states. Mystical experiences were pathologized. So there's got

911
01:07:13.119 --> 01:07:16.320
<v Speaker 1>to be something wrong with your brain or whatever going

912
01:07:16.360 --> 01:07:18.519
<v Speaker 1>on in your body to make you see these things.

913
01:07:19.320 --> 01:07:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Governments and institutions use psychiatry to enforce conformity. Hello Tavistock Institute.

914
01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:38.360
<v Speaker 1>So the line between revelation and psychosis is culturally defined

915
01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:44.679
<v Speaker 1>by the psychology and psychiatry community, now, especially more so

916
01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:50.519
<v Speaker 1>for women, because women tend to have more spiritual awakenings

917
01:07:50.760 --> 01:07:55.360
<v Speaker 1>than men do. And women also go to the doctor

918
01:07:55.400 --> 01:08:00.880
<v Speaker 1>more and go to therapy or counseling more frequently, and

919
01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:05.360
<v Speaker 1>so women are the highest targeted group in this area.

920
01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:09.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, and we're hysterical because we have a period.

921
01:08:10.880 --> 01:08:15.079
<v Speaker 1>Blame it on the period. Oh, they did, yes, all

922
01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:21.239
<v Speaker 1>the time. And so bottom line is because I wanted

923
01:08:21.239 --> 01:08:26.319
<v Speaker 1>to know how common it is for them to automatically

924
01:08:26.439 --> 01:08:33.680
<v Speaker 1>run to diagnose somebody as psychotic even though they just

925
01:08:34.279 --> 01:08:41.119
<v Speaker 1>literally had a positive experience. Clinicians today are much quicker

926
01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:49.840
<v Speaker 1>to diagnose with that same thing. And so modern psychiatry

927
01:08:50.039 --> 01:08:55.279
<v Speaker 1>is so indoctrinated that they have this safety first thing.

928
01:08:55.600 --> 01:08:58.960
<v Speaker 1>So if you're thinking you saw things, then you're not

929
01:08:59.079 --> 01:09:01.479
<v Speaker 1>only a danger to yourself, but you could be a

930
01:09:01.560 --> 01:09:04.840
<v Speaker 1>danger to other people. And so they're their first thing

931
01:09:05.720 --> 01:09:09.520
<v Speaker 1>that they have to do is jump to treat what

932
01:09:09.720 --> 01:09:16.079
<v Speaker 1>general means hospitalization, medication, whatever, because of the liability issue

933
01:09:16.840 --> 01:09:24.079
<v Speaker 1>that they may face. So obviously over prescribing for people

934
01:09:24.319 --> 01:09:28.640
<v Speaker 1>is a real problem because it's like a pringles. You

935
01:09:28.760 --> 01:09:31.399
<v Speaker 1>can't just have one. You got to have a whole

936
01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:36.600
<v Speaker 1>cocktail of medications because you're you have psychosis, but you're

937
01:09:36.640 --> 01:09:42.279
<v Speaker 1>also depressed, and then you've got heightened moments and so

938
01:09:42.319 --> 01:09:44.199
<v Speaker 1>then we got to give you something for that. And

939
01:09:44.399 --> 01:09:47.279
<v Speaker 1>they all work against each other.

940
01:09:48.479 --> 01:09:52.039
<v Speaker 4>You really, I mean, I'm not anti meds like you

941
01:09:52.199 --> 01:09:55.479
<v Speaker 4>have to research it. You have because I've seen, like

942
01:09:55.600 --> 01:09:59.640
<v Speaker 4>with my daughter specifically, she she needs the one medication

943
01:09:59.720 --> 01:10:03.079
<v Speaker 4>she's it's just an antidepressant. I know it goes back

944
01:10:03.119 --> 01:10:06.680
<v Speaker 4>and forth for people, but like we've tried, we've tried

945
01:10:06.720 --> 01:10:11.920
<v Speaker 4>lots of other things. It doesn't work. And for her, however,

946
01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:16.159
<v Speaker 4>we know what she's done therapy, like she's done everything

947
01:10:16.239 --> 01:10:19.840
<v Speaker 4>else too. So when you get to that point, you

948
01:10:19.840 --> 01:10:22.640
<v Speaker 4>know you've done all the things you were working through

949
01:10:22.680 --> 01:10:25.119
<v Speaker 4>it it's still not working. Like, Yeah, I think there's

950
01:10:25.159 --> 01:10:28.439
<v Speaker 4>a time and a place for some medications, but shouldn't

951
01:10:28.439 --> 01:10:28.960
<v Speaker 4>look like this.

952
01:10:29.600 --> 01:10:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah no, but that's what everybody does. And like I said,

953
01:10:34.560 --> 01:10:39.720
<v Speaker 1>it's very common in the healthcare world for them to go, oh,

954
01:10:39.920 --> 01:10:43.720
<v Speaker 1>you have periods of mania. Oh, and you have periods

955
01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:46.720
<v Speaker 1>of depression. So they're going to give you, you know,

956
01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:49.960
<v Speaker 1>something to raise your mood, something to lower your mood,

957
01:10:50.479 --> 01:10:53.840
<v Speaker 1>and those things do not work together. And that's why

958
01:10:53.880 --> 01:10:56.640
<v Speaker 1>when the patients come back for a follow up, they

959
01:10:56.720 --> 01:10:59.800
<v Speaker 1>will tell you either they don't feel any different, or

960
01:10:59.840 --> 01:11:04.520
<v Speaker 1>they feel worse. That's because your body's in total chaos

961
01:11:04.640 --> 01:11:06.279
<v Speaker 1>and your body doesn't know what to do.

962
01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:09.640
<v Speaker 4>And research them first, because you need to know the

963
01:11:09.680 --> 01:11:11.239
<v Speaker 4>side effects before you go on.

964
01:11:11.319 --> 01:11:14.479
<v Speaker 1>Medication, because you will have a sexual.

965
01:11:14.119 --> 01:11:18.720
<v Speaker 4>Dysfunction on some of them, which will make you more depressed.

966
01:11:19.960 --> 01:11:23.760
<v Speaker 4>Let's research there's other ones, there's better ones, there's you know,

967
01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:27.479
<v Speaker 4>they get paid for, Like my mom always asks, well,

968
01:11:27.479 --> 01:11:29.319
<v Speaker 4>why do they do this one and not this one

969
01:11:29.399 --> 01:11:31.960
<v Speaker 4>or whatever? For like even asthma drugs. I'm like, because

970
01:11:31.960 --> 01:11:34.159
<v Speaker 4>you get paid for certain ones money.

971
01:11:34.319 --> 01:11:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

972
01:11:34.840 --> 01:11:37.399
<v Speaker 4>You have to be in control of your own and

973
01:11:37.439 --> 01:11:40.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry people want to go and have If you

974
01:11:40.319 --> 01:11:44.079
<v Speaker 4>want the one script FIXEL, you're gonna get it, but

975
01:11:44.159 --> 01:11:46.720
<v Speaker 4>you're not gonna get better. You need to look up

976
01:11:46.760 --> 01:11:51.119
<v Speaker 4>your own things and really try different, like different things.

977
01:11:51.159 --> 01:11:53.279
<v Speaker 4>If that one's not working, don't just stay on it

978
01:11:53.319 --> 01:11:56.319
<v Speaker 4>and think that's it. Like you know, we do it

979
01:11:56.359 --> 01:11:59.359
<v Speaker 4>the proper way. Weed down, talk to the doctor, like

980
01:11:59.439 --> 01:12:03.760
<v Speaker 4>you can do these things differently and get a good outcome,

981
01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:05.960
<v Speaker 4>like I've seen it with my own family, and I've

982
01:12:05.960 --> 01:12:08.439
<v Speaker 4>seen a bad outcome with my own family too. Right.

983
01:12:08.520 --> 01:12:15.000
<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent, and sadly, they'll give these medications in

984
01:12:15.159 --> 01:12:18.239
<v Speaker 1>a combination of things, and then you have side effects,

985
01:12:18.239 --> 01:12:20.680
<v Speaker 1>and then they give you more to take care of

986
01:12:20.680 --> 01:12:22.760
<v Speaker 1>the side effects, and more and more and more and

987
01:12:22.800 --> 01:12:28.439
<v Speaker 1>more and more, which that's going to overstimulate your body,

988
01:12:28.439 --> 01:12:32.439
<v Speaker 1>and your body's like doesn't know what to do again.

989
01:12:33.439 --> 01:12:39.239
<v Speaker 1>So a lot of the over prescribing happens because under

990
01:12:39.399 --> 01:12:43.600
<v Speaker 1>the Obama administration, they did the push for everyone to

991
01:12:43.640 --> 01:12:46.960
<v Speaker 1>go electronic, and it was demanded. And so when you

992
01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:51.479
<v Speaker 1>go electronic, they think the powers that be think that

993
01:12:51.479 --> 01:12:54.399
<v Speaker 1>that means that you can double your patient load in

994
01:12:54.439 --> 01:12:59.239
<v Speaker 1>a day. And so you go to fifteen minute appointments

995
01:12:59.279 --> 01:13:02.600
<v Speaker 1>and so you can't talk to the patient in depth

996
01:13:02.720 --> 01:13:06.319
<v Speaker 1>about anything because you don't have time because you got

997
01:13:06.359 --> 01:13:09.079
<v Speaker 1>to get to the next person. And so, oh, you

998
01:13:09.159 --> 01:13:13.880
<v Speaker 1>got this problem. Okay, here's a script. Insurance pressures a

999
01:13:13.960 --> 01:13:19.399
<v Speaker 1>lot of doctors and facilities and stuff because medication management,

1000
01:13:19.479 --> 01:13:24.159
<v Speaker 1>like Idi said, is reimbursed, and so the facility, the doctor,

1001
01:13:24.199 --> 01:13:28.159
<v Speaker 1>the hospital, whatever it is, they get money. The more

1002
01:13:28.199 --> 01:13:30.359
<v Speaker 1>stuff they prescribe, the more money that they get.

1003
01:13:31.039 --> 01:13:35.239
<v Speaker 4>There was one story from a doctor and I can't

1004
01:13:35.239 --> 01:13:38.399
<v Speaker 4>believe that they even put this out there, but I

1005
01:13:38.399 --> 01:13:40.720
<v Speaker 4>can't remember what. I sawt on a documentary and he

1006
01:13:40.800 --> 01:13:44.840
<v Speaker 4>literally had a boat and he nicknamed it kickback because

1007
01:13:45.479 --> 01:13:50.520
<v Speaker 4>he got kickbacks. They do, and so you have to know,

1008
01:13:50.680 --> 01:13:53.600
<v Speaker 4>like these drug reps they get paid. Like I take

1009
01:13:53.640 --> 01:13:58.000
<v Speaker 4>one medication that is for my leg spasms from my

1010
01:13:58.119 --> 01:14:02.119
<v Speaker 4>back issues, and it is the oldest drug and they

1011
01:14:02.199 --> 01:14:04.239
<v Speaker 4>hate it because they don't make any money off it.

1012
01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:07.439
<v Speaker 4>They won't pay for it. My insurance won't even pay

1013
01:14:07.479 --> 01:14:10.840
<v Speaker 4>for it. My husband's medicine for his migraine super old,

1014
01:14:11.239 --> 01:14:13.119
<v Speaker 4>like indo medicine. They don't even.

1015
01:14:12.960 --> 01:14:16.439
<v Speaker 1>Get that anymore. But it is the only thing that

1016
01:14:16.479 --> 01:14:17.119
<v Speaker 1>works for him.

1017
01:14:17.199 --> 01:14:20.359
<v Speaker 4>It's dirt cheap. So what if your insurance doesn't pay

1018
01:14:20.359 --> 01:14:22.960
<v Speaker 4>for it. Don't just jump on board with the newest

1019
01:14:23.399 --> 01:14:26.560
<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, this is the newest shot ever, blah blah.

1020
01:14:26.680 --> 01:14:30.680
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes those old things like you've got to try a

1021
01:14:30.720 --> 01:14:33.159
<v Speaker 4>couple different things. And my husband really went through it

1022
01:14:33.199 --> 01:14:35.399
<v Speaker 4>with his migraines, and I was too scared because he

1023
01:14:35.479 --> 01:14:37.640
<v Speaker 4>was taking so many of those damn shots, you know.

1024
01:14:39.359 --> 01:14:42.920
<v Speaker 4>And with me, they tried to give me new muscle relaxers.

1025
01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:46.239
<v Speaker 4>I was knocked on my ass. I couldn't function. You know,

1026
01:14:46.399 --> 01:14:48.720
<v Speaker 4>and I'm yes, my back is really bad and goes

1027
01:14:48.760 --> 01:14:50.920
<v Speaker 4>down my leg, but I have to have I have

1028
01:14:50.960 --> 01:14:53.239
<v Speaker 4>to be awake. I have all these kids, you know.

1029
01:14:53.359 --> 01:14:56.279
<v Speaker 4>I was like, this isn't helping my life, Like this works,

1030
01:14:57.119 --> 01:14:59.960
<v Speaker 4>you know. And so finally the one I tried after

1031
01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:02.720
<v Speaker 4>all the others, it was like the only one left basically,

1032
01:15:03.319 --> 01:15:04.760
<v Speaker 4>and they were like, ah, we hate.

1033
01:15:04.560 --> 01:15:05.880
<v Speaker 1>That drug, blah blah blah.

1034
01:15:05.920 --> 01:15:08.119
<v Speaker 4>And then I was like, well whatever, and then my

1035
01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:11.000
<v Speaker 4>insurance pushed back and everybody and I don't care. I

1036
01:15:11.079 --> 01:15:14.600
<v Speaker 4>will pay for that Perston. Like it works and it's

1037
01:15:14.640 --> 01:15:16.960
<v Speaker 4>mostly consistent of aspirin, and yes, you have to be

1038
01:15:16.960 --> 01:15:19.439
<v Speaker 4>careful with that. But look, I'm telling you sometimes these

1039
01:15:19.479 --> 01:15:22.600
<v Speaker 4>older things sometimes they work right well.

1040
01:15:22.800 --> 01:15:31.039
<v Speaker 1>And speaking to that, think about like the older vaccines

1041
01:15:31.079 --> 01:15:34.680
<v Speaker 1>like when we were kids, right, and how much different

1042
01:15:34.720 --> 01:15:39.199
<v Speaker 1>they are now. And it's no different than like the

1043
01:15:39.199 --> 01:15:43.079
<v Speaker 1>the bioengineered drugs that we talked about, like you know,

1044
01:15:43.760 --> 01:15:48.039
<v Speaker 1>recreational drugs or whatever. There's so much more potent and

1045
01:15:48.079 --> 01:15:48.840
<v Speaker 1>stronger now.

1046
01:15:50.479 --> 01:15:51.840
<v Speaker 4>Yes, and they've had.

1047
01:15:52.079 --> 01:15:55.560
<v Speaker 1>The technology is different and they have so much more

1048
01:15:56.399 --> 01:16:01.439
<v Speaker 1>like additives and chemicals and things like that, and prescriptions

1049
01:16:01.479 --> 01:16:05.399
<v Speaker 1>nowadays it can be in the old stuff.

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01:16:05.920 --> 01:16:07.720
<v Speaker 4>You ought to see the look I got because my

1051
01:16:07.800 --> 01:16:09.640
<v Speaker 4>son is going to be in the nursing program, so

1052
01:16:09.680 --> 01:16:12.479
<v Speaker 4>he had to go comply with a stupid flu shot

1053
01:16:12.520 --> 01:16:14.600
<v Speaker 4>and all these things. And I was really pissed off

1054
01:16:14.640 --> 01:16:18.720
<v Speaker 4>because I delayed his vaccines for a long time. First

1055
01:16:18.720 --> 01:16:21.079
<v Speaker 4>of all. Second of all, he has no mRNA once.

1056
01:16:21.119 --> 01:16:23.199
<v Speaker 4>Third of all, he better never touch certain ones. And

1057
01:16:23.239 --> 01:16:26.319
<v Speaker 4>we've already talked about them. There's multiple, not just one, right,

1058
01:16:27.880 --> 01:16:31.840
<v Speaker 4>especially that damn HPV shot for boys. You best stay

1059
01:16:31.840 --> 01:16:35.159
<v Speaker 4>away from that in general, in general for the girls

1060
01:16:35.159 --> 01:16:37.920
<v Speaker 4>and the boys, but one hundred percent for the boys, yep,

1061
01:16:37.960 --> 01:16:41.199
<v Speaker 4>because it's really bad for them. And you can do

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01:16:41.279 --> 01:16:43.600
<v Speaker 4>your own research. This is my own opinion.

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01:16:43.479 --> 01:16:46.359
<v Speaker 1>In my own total agreeance medical advice.

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01:16:46.560 --> 01:16:49.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm just saying, like, as a parent, you know,

1065
01:16:50.680 --> 01:16:54.560
<v Speaker 4>I did, even as a nurse, wholly believing in it

1066
01:16:54.960 --> 01:16:57.720
<v Speaker 4>a long time ago. My older girl is twenty six.

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01:16:57.920 --> 01:17:00.520
<v Speaker 4>I did not let them touch her with any vaccines.

1068
01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:03.279
<v Speaker 4>She was born at home, so I do mean any

1069
01:17:05.039 --> 01:17:07.479
<v Speaker 4>till she was three, because I had read that it

1070
01:17:07.560 --> 01:17:11.520
<v Speaker 4>overloads their system like and they hated me, man, because

1071
01:17:11.560 --> 01:17:13.680
<v Speaker 4>I was well educated. I was a nurse and I

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01:17:13.760 --> 01:17:16.079
<v Speaker 4>wasn't coming at them with an anti vac stance. I

1073
01:17:16.239 --> 01:17:20.159
<v Speaker 4>just wanted to do it different, right, And I did. Yeah,

1074
01:17:20.159 --> 01:17:22.079
<v Speaker 4>And she's the only one out of my kids so

1075
01:17:22.239 --> 01:17:25.960
<v Speaker 4>far that from like my older kids in that generation

1076
01:17:26.159 --> 01:17:32.680
<v Speaker 4>that doesn't have a thyroid problem. Like you know, certain

1077
01:17:32.720 --> 01:17:36.119
<v Speaker 4>genetics that you know, if you know this is in

1078
01:17:36.199 --> 01:17:39.000
<v Speaker 4>my family line, you best be careful on what lights

1079
01:17:39.039 --> 01:17:39.640
<v Speaker 4>you turn on.

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01:17:40.159 --> 01:17:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh, yeah, And I was.

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01:17:43.680 --> 01:17:45.640
<v Speaker 4>And then so the doctor was pissed off at me

1082
01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:48.239
<v Speaker 4>because he goes and the and the the VID shot, right,

1083
01:17:48.319 --> 01:17:50.439
<v Speaker 4>we're going to give that today with the flu shot

1084
01:17:50.439 --> 01:17:53.960
<v Speaker 4>And I said no, and he's like, oh, well, he's

1085
01:17:54.000 --> 01:17:55.880
<v Speaker 4>going to be in the I said, We're not doing that.

1086
01:17:56.079 --> 01:17:57.880
<v Speaker 4>I said, and I don't know why it has to

1087
01:17:57.920 --> 01:18:00.680
<v Speaker 4>be in mRNA form and they can't make another form

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01:18:00.720 --> 01:18:03.840
<v Speaker 4>of vaccine where it's traditional. Well, it mutates, and I'm.

1089
01:18:03.680 --> 01:18:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Like every virus mutates. He gave me the look of death,

1090
01:18:08.359 --> 01:18:13.600
<v Speaker 1>doesn't like somebody that has critical thoughts. Still, that fear

1091
01:18:13.680 --> 01:18:16.399
<v Speaker 1>and control wasn't working out well for him.

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01:18:16.920 --> 01:18:19.760
<v Speaker 4>And my son's asthma one hundred and ten percent flirt

1093
01:18:19.880 --> 01:18:23.239
<v Speaker 4>up horribly after the flu shot. Like I was pissed.

1094
01:18:23.800 --> 01:18:27.199
<v Speaker 4>I was pissed off that he even had to do that.

1095
01:18:29.399 --> 01:18:31.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh, he's gonna have to get all kinds of things

1096
01:18:31.520 --> 01:18:36.399
<v Speaker 1>if he's going to be in that field now. So

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01:18:37.119 --> 01:18:42.640
<v Speaker 1>not just the insurance pressing facilities or whatever, but Big

1098
01:18:42.720 --> 01:18:47.359
<v Speaker 1>Farnma does the exact same thing. Providers get really burnt out,

1099
01:18:47.520 --> 01:18:50.520
<v Speaker 1>and so they're just like, Oh, I'll give you whatever

1100
01:18:50.760 --> 01:18:54.640
<v Speaker 1>prescriptions you want. Oh, you want seventy five xanax, all right,

1101
01:18:54.960 --> 01:18:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll write that for you, like whatever. So much in

1102
01:18:59.199 --> 01:19:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Utah emergency settings, and so a lot of providers don't

1103
01:19:06.359 --> 01:19:09.199
<v Speaker 1>have the time or don't take the time in emergency

1104
01:19:09.319 --> 01:19:13.600
<v Speaker 1>settings like the er is what I'm talking about, to

1105
01:19:13.760 --> 01:19:17.760
<v Speaker 1>actually do things right, and so a lot of over prescribing.

1106
01:19:19.199 --> 01:19:22.880
<v Speaker 1>So the system is definitely not set up in the

1107
01:19:24.079 --> 01:19:27.520
<v Speaker 1>not just psychiatry field, but the medical field as well,

1108
01:19:27.560 --> 01:19:33.000
<v Speaker 1>because like I said before, they don't know the questions

1109
01:19:33.000 --> 01:19:36.720
<v Speaker 1>to ask. They don't have any training in spiritual emergencies.

1110
01:19:36.760 --> 01:19:42.560
<v Speaker 1>They don't understand mystical or awakening things. They can't differentiate

1111
01:19:43.520 --> 01:19:48.399
<v Speaker 1>between kundalini activation, which we talked about on a previous show,

1112
01:19:48.600 --> 01:19:54.119
<v Speaker 1>and what mania looks like. They don't know the difference

1113
01:19:54.199 --> 01:19:59.359
<v Speaker 1>between cultural competence and you know, like where there it's

1114
01:19:59.439 --> 01:20:03.800
<v Speaker 1>indigenous people or you know, all of the different cultures

1115
01:20:03.800 --> 01:20:07.159
<v Speaker 1>come with all of these different beliefs and spiritual beliefs,

1116
01:20:07.199 --> 01:20:09.800
<v Speaker 1>religious beliefs and all of that stuff. They don't have

1117
01:20:09.880 --> 01:20:11.359
<v Speaker 1>training in that kind of stuff.

1118
01:20:11.880 --> 01:20:15.800
<v Speaker 4>They don't have time, and even if they did, like it,

1119
01:20:15.800 --> 01:20:18.439
<v Speaker 4>it's always constantly changing. That's why I put this picture

1120
01:20:18.439 --> 01:20:20.680
<v Speaker 4>and I really loved it because you know, it's like

1121
01:20:20.760 --> 01:20:22.840
<v Speaker 4>showing kind of like Jesus with the doctor and the

1122
01:20:22.880 --> 01:20:25.479
<v Speaker 4>doctor talking to the guy, but like they don't do

1123
01:20:25.600 --> 01:20:28.960
<v Speaker 4>that anymore. I have a wonderful doctor. The reason why

1124
01:20:29.000 --> 01:20:31.119
<v Speaker 4>I have the prescription I have for my dumb leg

1125
01:20:31.159 --> 01:20:35.199
<v Speaker 4>and it's nothing major, you know, is he listens to me.

1126
01:20:35.920 --> 01:20:39.560
<v Speaker 4>He's like and even with my sicknesses and stuff, he's

1127
01:20:39.560 --> 01:20:42.520
<v Speaker 4>been like really good to say, yeah, I don't know,

1128
01:20:42.760 --> 01:20:45.199
<v Speaker 4>you're a different case. He even wrote me the letter

1129
01:20:45.279 --> 01:20:47.439
<v Speaker 4>in twenty twenty for the VID, and he is very

1130
01:20:47.479 --> 01:20:51.279
<v Speaker 4>pro and he said, I understand why you are fearful

1131
01:20:51.359 --> 01:20:54.039
<v Speaker 4>because you might die. Like I have seen you react

1132
01:20:54.079 --> 01:20:58.800
<v Speaker 4>to other things that are crazy. You're allergic to white rice, Like, yeah,

1133
01:20:58.800 --> 01:21:01.239
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you should have. He was very

1134
01:21:01.239 --> 01:21:04.399
<v Speaker 4>on my side. You need somebody that will listen to

1135
01:21:04.399 --> 01:21:05.119
<v Speaker 4>you if you do.

1136
01:21:05.119 --> 01:21:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Have right and if they don't listen and they don't

1137
01:21:08.800 --> 01:21:12.199
<v Speaker 1>advocate for you a new doctor, I didn actor because

1138
01:21:12.239 --> 01:21:15.079
<v Speaker 1>they're breaking their oath right off the bat anyway, because

1139
01:21:15.079 --> 01:21:17.640
<v Speaker 1>they're supposed to advocate for you as a patient, not

1140
01:21:18.680 --> 01:21:22.960
<v Speaker 1>for the facility or advocate for pharma or the entrance.

1141
01:21:23.439 --> 01:21:26.279
<v Speaker 4>He has been so wonderful and he never makes me

1142
01:21:26.319 --> 01:21:30.960
<v Speaker 4>feel crazy or rushed. He's like, look, I did at

1143
01:21:30.960 --> 01:21:33.840
<v Speaker 4>first think you were a little histrionic. And then he

1144
01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:36.760
<v Speaker 4>watched all those things happen to me with the surgeon.

1145
01:21:36.840 --> 01:21:40.640
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't him, and he's like everything you were telling

1146
01:21:40.680 --> 01:21:43.560
<v Speaker 4>me from the weeks before, because I was seeing him too,

1147
01:21:44.359 --> 01:21:46.640
<v Speaker 4>and I was like this, I know some things are

1148
01:21:46.680 --> 01:21:48.680
<v Speaker 4>like I just know. Same thing with my cancer. I

1149
01:21:48.720 --> 01:21:50.720
<v Speaker 4>knew I had cancer before I had cancer, and I

1150
01:21:50.720 --> 01:21:53.720
<v Speaker 4>didn't know where, but I knew I did. And they

1151
01:21:53.760 --> 01:21:56.840
<v Speaker 4>told me I was nuts, and I kept saying, like

1152
01:21:57.239 --> 01:21:59.600
<v Speaker 4>I know that that this is what it is, so

1153
01:21:59.680 --> 01:22:02.680
<v Speaker 4>I will not let you biopsia. I'm sorry take it out.

1154
01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:05.880
<v Speaker 4>And they were very upset with me because it's a

1155
01:22:05.920 --> 01:22:09.600
<v Speaker 4>critical organ right right, and I am on medication for

1156
01:22:09.680 --> 01:22:11.600
<v Speaker 4>my thyroid the rest of my life because of that.

1157
01:22:11.720 --> 01:22:14.600
<v Speaker 4>But I knew that going in and I told them

1158
01:22:14.720 --> 01:22:18.199
<v Speaker 4>I don't care. I know that those nodules and I

1159
01:22:18.239 --> 01:22:21.840
<v Speaker 4>had so many. I said, please you. And the first

1160
01:22:21.840 --> 01:22:25.720
<v Speaker 4>doctor fired me as a patient, and the next doctor

1161
01:22:25.840 --> 01:22:27.800
<v Speaker 4>was my doctor I found now and he was like,

1162
01:22:28.079 --> 01:22:29.720
<v Speaker 4>and he was so nice. He said, I think you're

1163
01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:33.800
<v Speaker 4>being over zealous. He didn't call me crazy, and he said,

1164
01:22:33.880 --> 01:22:37.840
<v Speaker 4>but I think you have good rationale. Yes, it's probably, yes,

1165
01:22:37.880 --> 01:22:40.479
<v Speaker 4>it's had to auto men all these things. He supported me,

1166
01:22:40.760 --> 01:22:43.479
<v Speaker 4>and he said, it's it's dead. I'm sure it's been

1167
01:22:43.520 --> 01:22:47.279
<v Speaker 4>dead probably since you were thirteen, So that's fine. You're

1168
01:22:47.319 --> 01:22:49.800
<v Speaker 4>being a little wild, but it does. It's a dead organ,

1169
01:22:50.319 --> 01:22:54.239
<v Speaker 4>you know. And it was. It was full blown. It

1170
01:22:54.279 --> 01:22:56.800
<v Speaker 4>was almost stage four. If they had done that, I

1171
01:22:56.840 --> 01:22:58.680
<v Speaker 4>don't know if i'd be here right.

1172
01:22:58.800 --> 01:23:01.479
<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, probably not, because anytime you

1173
01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:05.560
<v Speaker 1>poke that encapsulation, it just spreads everywhere.

1174
01:23:05.600 --> 01:23:08.359
<v Speaker 4>And I had the worst feeling, like I kept praying

1175
01:23:08.399 --> 01:23:12.520
<v Speaker 4>because I never make a decision on medicine alone, and

1176
01:23:12.720 --> 01:23:16.640
<v Speaker 4>I kept having the worst like, don't do it. If

1177
01:23:16.640 --> 01:23:18.039
<v Speaker 4>you have that, like you.

1178
01:23:18.039 --> 01:23:21.399
<v Speaker 1>Better listen to that, listen to your gut always.

1179
01:23:21.760 --> 01:23:24.279
<v Speaker 4>My doctor was floored when he called me, and the

1180
01:23:24.319 --> 01:23:26.319
<v Speaker 4>first thing he said, this is what they say to you,

1181
01:23:26.600 --> 01:23:28.800
<v Speaker 4>and I already told him, like I'm not worried about it.

1182
01:23:28.840 --> 01:23:30.680
<v Speaker 4>He's like, is there someone home with you right now?

1183
01:23:30.680 --> 01:23:34.199
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, oh, shut up, I told you. I told you.

1184
01:23:34.720 --> 01:23:37.039
<v Speaker 4>And he's like, I know, but and I said, look,

1185
01:23:37.039 --> 01:23:38.880
<v Speaker 4>I already know it's positive. Just tell me what we

1186
01:23:38.920 --> 01:23:39.399
<v Speaker 4>need to do.

1187
01:23:39.840 --> 01:23:45.760
<v Speaker 1>M one hundred percent and that that's again because you

1188
01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:50.680
<v Speaker 1>have that connection with your body and I just tell

1189
01:23:50.720 --> 01:23:51.039
<v Speaker 1>it to you.

1190
01:23:51.119 --> 01:23:54.319
<v Speaker 4>And yeah, right, I give it to God. Really and

1191
01:23:54.399 --> 01:23:56.840
<v Speaker 4>when you do that, you're not going to hear I mean,

1192
01:23:56.840 --> 01:24:00.760
<v Speaker 4>at least for me. He didn't like from down and

1193
01:24:01.039 --> 01:24:03.600
<v Speaker 4>whoa like that would be probably scary, I don't know,

1194
01:24:04.760 --> 01:24:08.640
<v Speaker 4>but like it was just over time, like it every

1195
01:24:08.680 --> 01:24:11.279
<v Speaker 4>time I challenge it and be like, but maybe it

1196
01:24:11.319 --> 01:24:13.680
<v Speaker 4>was like a pushback feeling right like your fear.

1197
01:24:16.159 --> 01:24:20.520
<v Speaker 1>It's more like and see That's why, like this topic

1198
01:24:20.560 --> 01:24:23.079
<v Speaker 1>today kind of made me chuckle because I've never seen

1199
01:24:23.119 --> 01:24:25.680
<v Speaker 1>an angel. I've never talked to an angel, but I

1200
01:24:26.439 --> 01:24:29.880
<v Speaker 1>have said frequently that I get downloads from God and

1201
01:24:29.960 --> 01:24:33.319
<v Speaker 1>I do because he guides me to where he wants

1202
01:24:33.399 --> 01:24:33.800
<v Speaker 1>me to.

1203
01:24:33.720 --> 01:24:37.399
<v Speaker 4>Be well, this is why the angels always say do

1204
01:24:37.560 --> 01:24:38.119
<v Speaker 4>not fear.

1205
01:24:42.840 --> 01:24:44.479
<v Speaker 1>That's a very creepy picture.

1206
01:24:45.039 --> 01:24:48.319
<v Speaker 4>This is like a real depiction of an angel from

1207
01:24:48.319 --> 01:24:50.199
<v Speaker 4>the description in the Bible.

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01:24:50.319 --> 01:24:55.159
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, wow, that's terrifying. Yeah, I don't want

1209
01:24:55.159 --> 01:24:56.239
<v Speaker 1>to see one of those.

1210
01:24:56.319 --> 01:25:01.960
<v Speaker 4>So I'm asking God said it to me. Yeah, I'll listen,

1211
01:25:02.039 --> 01:25:03.479
<v Speaker 4>but that's a little spooky, but.

1212
01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, i'd be like listening with one eye open. So,

1213
01:25:14.359 --> 01:25:19.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, tragically speaking, you know, clinicians because they don't

1214
01:25:19.800 --> 01:25:22.119
<v Speaker 1>know what to do and because they're pressured to make

1215
01:25:22.159 --> 01:25:26.560
<v Speaker 1>all this money for Farman Insurance and everybody else, so

1216
01:25:26.760 --> 01:25:30.479
<v Speaker 1>sadly they diagnose a lot of people as having a

1217
01:25:30.520 --> 01:25:35.840
<v Speaker 1>problem when they don't have one. And so this even

1218
01:25:35.920 --> 01:25:41.079
<v Speaker 1>lends to you know, again the electronic medical records goes,

1219
01:25:41.119 --> 01:25:44.079
<v Speaker 1>they got a computer, they're trying to type while they're

1220
01:25:44.079 --> 01:25:47.359
<v Speaker 1>trying to listen to you. So if you're you're emotional,

1221
01:25:48.279 --> 01:25:52.840
<v Speaker 1>if you speak fast, if you say anything like God

1222
01:25:52.920 --> 01:25:56.359
<v Speaker 1>spoke to me and Angel spoke to me. Whatever you

1223
01:25:56.399 --> 01:25:59.199
<v Speaker 1>tell them about a vision, or you start crying, or

1224
01:25:59.279 --> 01:26:04.039
<v Speaker 1>you tell them you're overwhelmed, they're immediately going to diagnose

1225
01:26:04.039 --> 01:26:11.199
<v Speaker 1>you as psychotic, hysterical, even though you're not.

1226
01:26:12.439 --> 01:26:14.479
<v Speaker 4>Maybe you went through a whole lot of shit and

1227
01:26:14.520 --> 01:26:16.239
<v Speaker 4>you're just real upset and.

1228
01:26:16.399 --> 01:26:19.359
<v Speaker 1>Right, you know, and you are having a bad day

1229
01:26:19.520 --> 01:26:24.359
<v Speaker 1>because it's okay to cry, because that is your body's

1230
01:26:24.479 --> 01:26:28.800
<v Speaker 1>way of letting out the stress and bringing your body

1231
01:26:28.840 --> 01:26:31.680
<v Speaker 1>back to normal homeostasis or balance.

1232
01:26:32.479 --> 01:26:36.079
<v Speaker 4>And you you have to also remember there is situational

1233
01:26:36.439 --> 01:26:40.720
<v Speaker 4>depression anger whatever that is, whatever feeling you're having, and

1234
01:26:40.760 --> 01:26:45.520
<v Speaker 4>then there's like this ongoing lingering situation, which is different.

1235
01:26:46.079 --> 01:26:49.520
<v Speaker 4>So if you are sad because your cat died and

1236
01:26:49.560 --> 01:26:52.199
<v Speaker 4>then something else died, and then and your grandma died,

1237
01:26:52.279 --> 01:26:55.239
<v Speaker 4>and you know, all these things are happening, and you're like, man,

1238
01:26:55.279 --> 01:26:57.199
<v Speaker 4>I just I'm going to have to get on medicine

1239
01:26:57.199 --> 01:27:01.840
<v Speaker 4>because I'm really depressed. No, this is normal. You should

1240
01:27:01.920 --> 01:27:05.079
<v Speaker 4>be depressed if your pet died that you loved, and

1241
01:27:05.079 --> 01:27:07.760
<v Speaker 4>then your grandma died and then whatever is going on,

1242
01:27:07.960 --> 01:27:11.000
<v Speaker 4>or you're going through a divorce, or your children have

1243
01:27:11.119 --> 01:27:14.479
<v Speaker 4>done something that's really upsetting, Like you have to start

1244
01:27:14.520 --> 01:27:17.840
<v Speaker 4>looking at life differently. And I think this whole fake

1245
01:27:18.600 --> 01:27:23.920
<v Speaker 4>living is so just damn devastating. It's just so ridiculous.

1246
01:27:24.720 --> 01:27:30.239
<v Speaker 4>Everybody's fake as hell. Listen, it's I try not to

1247
01:27:31.520 --> 01:27:35.560
<v Speaker 4>overly edit like my face or like whatever on these

1248
01:27:35.720 --> 01:27:39.720
<v Speaker 4>or or to do like anything weird, because I know

1249
01:27:39.800 --> 01:27:42.520
<v Speaker 4>how that feels like you're always going to feel less

1250
01:27:42.560 --> 01:27:46.560
<v Speaker 4>than somebody else. There's always somebody better. It's true, like

1251
01:27:47.199 --> 01:27:51.399
<v Speaker 4>it's life, and you have to realize that, like, yeah,

1252
01:27:51.439 --> 01:27:54.399
<v Speaker 4>so what, but I'm great. I don't have to be

1253
01:27:54.520 --> 01:27:59.199
<v Speaker 4>comparing myself to eighty other like I am me saying.

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01:27:59.399 --> 01:28:04.159
<v Speaker 1>I agree, yeah, And that's that's a beautiful thing, because

1255
01:28:04.920 --> 01:28:07.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you have these things that you're going

1256
01:28:07.399 --> 01:28:12.399
<v Speaker 1>through in life, you should want to go with them,

1257
01:28:12.960 --> 01:28:19.039
<v Speaker 1>go through them and feel feel your emotions, feel normal feelings,

1258
01:28:19.720 --> 01:28:23.319
<v Speaker 1>be a normal person instead of having something that is

1259
01:28:23.399 --> 01:28:27.000
<v Speaker 1>going to dole you and numb you so that you

1260
01:28:27.119 --> 01:28:30.720
<v Speaker 1>can't feel anything at all. You can't feel joy, you

1261
01:28:30.720 --> 01:28:35.600
<v Speaker 1>can't feel sadness, You literally can't feel anything at all, nothing.

1262
01:28:35.279 --> 01:28:38.119
<v Speaker 4>And you wonder why you can't have an orgasm. Listen,

1263
01:28:39.039 --> 01:28:43.000
<v Speaker 4>you gotta get to a more natural state to be honest.

1264
01:28:43.359 --> 01:28:46.279
<v Speaker 4>You know, if you are blocking out the bad, bad, bad,

1265
01:28:46.319 --> 01:28:48.800
<v Speaker 4>you're also blocking out the good good good, unless it's

1266
01:28:50.039 --> 01:28:52.560
<v Speaker 4>if you're suicidal or something that's a different thing. But

1267
01:28:53.079 --> 01:28:55.199
<v Speaker 4>you know, even that you can come back from. It's

1268
01:28:55.279 --> 01:28:57.880
<v Speaker 4>not like a death sentence. I mean, you get you

1269
01:28:57.920 --> 01:29:00.760
<v Speaker 4>get better, you go in, they work with you. Like

1270
01:29:00.840 --> 01:29:03.760
<v Speaker 4>my stepson, you know, Will I'm sure get to that

1271
01:29:03.800 --> 01:29:07.000
<v Speaker 4>in a second. But he did come back from it.

1272
01:29:07.079 --> 01:29:08.960
<v Speaker 4>You know, he's okay now. And as long as he

1273
01:29:08.960 --> 01:29:11.920
<v Speaker 4>doesn't take illicit substances, he's just fine. He's not on

1274
01:29:12.000 --> 01:29:14.960
<v Speaker 4>other medication even though he's in full blown psychosis for

1275
01:29:14.960 --> 01:29:15.319
<v Speaker 4>a year.

1276
01:29:17.039 --> 01:29:20.479
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and so even people that do have this,

1277
01:29:21.680 --> 01:29:28.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, the angelic visitation psychosis, and you had the

1278
01:29:28.279 --> 01:29:33.000
<v Speaker 1>break from reality and the disassociation and all of the

1279
01:29:33.039 --> 01:29:38.039
<v Speaker 1>things that make it a psychosis, it is fixable. It

1280
01:29:38.159 --> 01:29:41.880
<v Speaker 1>is treatable, and it's not a permanent thing. It doesn't

1281
01:29:41.920 --> 01:29:45.319
<v Speaker 1>have to be a permanent thing. They just have to know,

1282
01:29:45.960 --> 01:29:49.439
<v Speaker 1>like to what to do with you or what to

1283
01:29:50.600 --> 01:29:54.039
<v Speaker 1>how to treat you, how to treat you as an individual.

1284
01:29:53.479 --> 01:29:57.920
<v Speaker 4>That what happened, what happened to you? Yeah, that's what

1285
01:29:58.000 --> 01:29:59.680
<v Speaker 4>they need. So tell the truth.

1286
01:30:00.840 --> 01:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>So here's the interesting thing about how quickly practitioners jump

1287
01:30:08.000 --> 01:30:15.680
<v Speaker 1>to diagnose people as this. The highest rate is er psychiatrist.

1288
01:30:16.279 --> 01:30:21.640
<v Speaker 1>They're the number one group that diagnoses people right off

1289
01:30:21.720 --> 01:30:27.199
<v Speaker 1>the bats. The fastest one. The second one is psychiatrist

1290
01:30:27.439 --> 01:30:31.239
<v Speaker 1>in private pack practice, and it's kind of in the

1291
01:30:31.279 --> 01:30:37.199
<v Speaker 1>moderate category. Therapists and psychologists are a little bit slower

1292
01:30:38.319 --> 01:30:43.359
<v Speaker 1>because it takes some time to get to, you know,

1293
01:30:43.920 --> 01:30:49.000
<v Speaker 1>questions and build that rapport in that relationship, and so

1294
01:30:50.079 --> 01:30:53.239
<v Speaker 1>of course it's going to be slower because relationship building

1295
01:30:53.319 --> 01:30:59.319
<v Speaker 1>comes first before addressing a problem. And the very slowest category,

1296
01:30:59.399 --> 01:31:06.439
<v Speaker 1>which I absolutely love, is holistic great holistic or integrative practitioners.

1297
01:31:07.479 --> 01:31:10.800
<v Speaker 1>And so if you see a holistic doctor, they're going

1298
01:31:10.880 --> 01:31:14.359
<v Speaker 1>to treat you as an individual and not as a

1299
01:31:14.399 --> 01:31:19.399
<v Speaker 1>group think type person. And so they're the very last

1300
01:31:19.439 --> 01:31:22.239
<v Speaker 1>category that would ever diagnose you with that kind of thing,

1301
01:31:23.239 --> 01:31:28.520
<v Speaker 1>right right, So, sou do you want to tell people

1302
01:31:29.399 --> 01:31:30.279
<v Speaker 1>about your kiddo?

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01:31:31.239 --> 01:31:34.079
<v Speaker 4>Yes, So I just wanted to mention because we did

1304
01:31:34.119 --> 01:31:37.079
<v Speaker 4>have and I'm going to push stop share or maybe

1305
01:31:37.079 --> 01:31:40.359
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to try. I always mess it up. Sometimes

1306
01:31:40.399 --> 01:31:40.920
<v Speaker 4>you have to do it.

1307
01:31:41.359 --> 01:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll boot you, okay.

1308
01:31:43.479 --> 01:31:47.039
<v Speaker 4>So whoa, whoa go and we're going through time time

1309
01:31:47.199 --> 01:31:51.560
<v Speaker 4>please travel. Yeah, So my step son really did go

1310
01:31:51.640 --> 01:31:55.039
<v Speaker 4>through this with psychosis, and he's given me permission to

1311
01:31:55.039 --> 01:31:58.920
<v Speaker 4>speak about it because I wouldn't otherwise, And it was

1312
01:31:58.960 --> 01:32:04.840
<v Speaker 4>as simple as all natural. Never did acid or anything.

1313
01:32:04.880 --> 01:32:07.920
<v Speaker 4>He did mushrooms and he did pot not together, but

1314
01:32:08.119 --> 01:32:10.880
<v Speaker 4>like this is the two drugs he would usually use,

1315
01:32:11.800 --> 01:32:16.479
<v Speaker 4>and he would use pot way too much. And I

1316
01:32:16.520 --> 01:32:20.680
<v Speaker 4>know he started using mushrooms more often than like once

1317
01:32:20.720 --> 01:32:22.159
<v Speaker 4>in a great while. I think it was a couple

1318
01:32:22.199 --> 01:32:25.720
<v Speaker 4>times a month or even once a week. And that

1319
01:32:26.079 --> 01:32:30.479
<v Speaker 4>you know, he was about eighteen going on nineteen, and

1320
01:32:30.560 --> 01:32:34.279
<v Speaker 4>he did he had a full psychotic break. We couldn't

1321
01:32:34.319 --> 01:32:38.399
<v Speaker 4>get him to do anything. He was staring at the

1322
01:32:38.479 --> 01:32:43.279
<v Speaker 4>wall like it was a TV. It was kind of terrifying.

1323
01:32:44.159 --> 01:32:46.640
<v Speaker 4>He wasn't showering. This was a kid that very much

1324
01:32:46.720 --> 01:32:52.039
<v Speaker 4>cared about how he looked and everything, and he stopped functioning.

1325
01:32:52.319 --> 01:32:54.359
<v Speaker 4>I mean, he wore the same sweater. When I see

1326
01:32:54.359 --> 01:32:57.520
<v Speaker 4>that sweat sometimes occasionally he'll wear it now. And it

1327
01:32:57.600 --> 01:33:02.800
<v Speaker 4>almost it like triggers ANSD. Because it was such a

1328
01:33:02.840 --> 01:33:06.000
<v Speaker 4>scary time in our lives where we didn't know if

1329
01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:08.199
<v Speaker 4>he was going to be okay, because he was that

1330
01:33:08.279 --> 01:33:12.359
<v Speaker 4>close to suicide. And I finally had to step in

1331
01:33:12.479 --> 01:33:15.840
<v Speaker 4>and say, like you you have to go in patient.

1332
01:33:16.039 --> 01:33:19.000
<v Speaker 4>And I didn't want to impatient him, you know, even

1333
01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:21.279
<v Speaker 4>though I know it's necessary for a lot of people

1334
01:33:21.359 --> 01:33:25.000
<v Speaker 4>and that's okay, but he was so young. He was

1335
01:33:25.079 --> 01:33:28.319
<v Speaker 4>on the borderline of like he just graduated. Pete's like.

1336
01:33:29.039 --> 01:33:30.920
<v Speaker 4>I didn't want to put him in a full blown

1337
01:33:31.439 --> 01:33:36.159
<v Speaker 4>place with him never having any kind of access to

1338
01:33:36.199 --> 01:33:38.680
<v Speaker 4>that type of situation because it would have scared him.

1339
01:33:38.960 --> 01:33:45.600
<v Speaker 4>He's a meeker person. And so we went ahead. In Utah,

1340
01:33:45.680 --> 01:33:49.039
<v Speaker 4>they do treat marijuana addiction, which is hysterical to me,

1341
01:33:49.119 --> 01:33:53.159
<v Speaker 4>but I'm glad. But it's kind of funny knowing how

1342
01:33:53.199 --> 01:33:56.600
<v Speaker 4>they are with everything else whatever. So we got him

1343
01:33:56.600 --> 01:34:01.000
<v Speaker 4>in patient psych for addiction, and it has changed his life.

1344
01:34:01.079 --> 01:34:05.920
<v Speaker 4>He now leads the addiction therapy. He's all about aa well,

1345
01:34:05.960 --> 01:34:10.000
<v Speaker 4>like whatever that would be, I guess na, And he,

1346
01:34:10.520 --> 01:34:14.680
<v Speaker 4>you know, has done so well and now he expresses

1347
01:34:14.760 --> 01:34:17.479
<v Speaker 4>his emotions that caught him up and all that in.

1348
01:34:17.399 --> 01:34:20.800
<v Speaker 1>The first place, okay, right, and puts it into music.

1349
01:34:20.880 --> 01:34:24.479
<v Speaker 4>But he did have religious psychosis, which is why I

1350
01:34:24.560 --> 01:34:27.079
<v Speaker 4>wanted to bring it up, because he knew a lot

1351
01:34:27.159 --> 01:34:29.560
<v Speaker 4>about God and he knew a lot about demons. But

1352
01:34:29.680 --> 01:34:31.960
<v Speaker 4>there was a lot of focus not at this house,

1353
01:34:32.119 --> 01:34:35.439
<v Speaker 4>on some different things, and I think he even did

1354
01:34:35.439 --> 01:34:39.159
<v Speaker 4>some of that to himself. Okay, but the demonic realm

1355
01:34:39.359 --> 01:34:42.560
<v Speaker 4>and then they would take these mushrooms and go with

1356
01:34:42.680 --> 01:34:46.479
<v Speaker 4>his friends and like go like fight demons in this

1357
01:34:46.520 --> 01:34:49.319
<v Speaker 4>other realm. Like this is the stuff he was telling us.

1358
01:34:49.319 --> 01:34:52.920
<v Speaker 4>It was bananas. And I remember telling my husband like

1359
01:34:52.960 --> 01:34:56.199
<v Speaker 4>this is so bad, Like this is so scary, you know,

1360
01:34:57.239 --> 01:34:59.840
<v Speaker 4>And he felt like he was doing a good thing,

1361
01:35:00.199 --> 01:35:04.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, because and I kept telling that command yeah yeah,

1362
01:35:04.840 --> 01:35:07.520
<v Speaker 4>And I kept telling him, you're a light. You got

1363
01:35:07.520 --> 01:35:10.079
<v Speaker 4>to remember what it says in the Bible that if

1364
01:35:10.319 --> 01:35:12.239
<v Speaker 4>if you you know, where do they go?

1365
01:35:12.560 --> 01:35:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Right?

1366
01:35:12.840 --> 01:35:15.840
<v Speaker 4>These spirits go into the desert looking for a place

1367
01:35:15.880 --> 01:35:18.680
<v Speaker 4>to rest. And if they're in this darkness and you're

1368
01:35:18.720 --> 01:35:22.359
<v Speaker 4>a light because you have a soul, you know they're

1369
01:35:22.439 --> 01:35:25.600
<v Speaker 4>going to be attracted to that. Whether it gets in

1370
01:35:25.640 --> 01:35:28.279
<v Speaker 4>you because you're a believer is irrelevant. They're going to

1371
01:35:28.319 --> 01:35:31.199
<v Speaker 4>come back with you on the sidelines then, you know,

1372
01:35:31.239 --> 01:35:32.199
<v Speaker 4>and affect your life.

1373
01:35:32.239 --> 01:35:34.800
<v Speaker 1>And they did, and he really has.

1374
01:35:35.039 --> 01:35:37.920
<v Speaker 4>He actually almost became an atheist over this, which we

1375
01:35:37.920 --> 01:35:41.159
<v Speaker 4>were like devastated. We couldn't like pray or talk about

1376
01:35:41.159 --> 01:35:45.319
<v Speaker 4>God or anything. And he's came to a middle ground now,

1377
01:35:45.520 --> 01:35:49.319
<v Speaker 4>like he's kind of like, okay, yes, God is good,

1378
01:35:49.359 --> 01:35:52.479
<v Speaker 4>but like I'm not going to go over to that level.

1379
01:35:52.520 --> 01:35:55.880
<v Speaker 4>You know, he's he's always been a type of person

1380
01:35:55.920 --> 01:35:59.199
<v Speaker 4>that's all in. That's just who he is, and he's

1381
01:35:59.279 --> 01:36:03.039
<v Speaker 4>just really driven and he has to stay away from

1382
01:36:03.079 --> 01:36:07.000
<v Speaker 4>these things. And people think that it's fine. Okay, people

1383
01:36:07.039 --> 01:36:10.560
<v Speaker 4>think that it's no big deal or spice that one.

1384
01:36:10.720 --> 01:36:13.600
<v Speaker 4>My husband has you know, done recreational drugs when he

1385
01:36:13.680 --> 01:36:17.439
<v Speaker 4>was young, not anytime recently, but he even said that

1386
01:36:17.600 --> 01:36:20.560
<v Speaker 4>messed me up sometimes worse than like real drugs, like

1387
01:36:20.640 --> 01:36:23.920
<v Speaker 4>back in the day. You know, this stuff isn't a joke,

1388
01:36:24.239 --> 01:36:27.479
<v Speaker 4>like and people don't understand that it's not the weed

1389
01:36:27.520 --> 01:36:32.960
<v Speaker 4>your grandpa grew. Okay, yeah it's not. It's you know,

1390
01:36:33.199 --> 01:36:37.720
<v Speaker 4>tainted cross this and that and D D D who

1391
01:36:37.800 --> 01:36:40.119
<v Speaker 4>knows what chemicals and they're growing it all the time

1392
01:36:40.159 --> 01:36:43.399
<v Speaker 4>and hydroponic stuff and like, look, it's not coming out

1393
01:36:43.399 --> 01:36:45.520
<v Speaker 4>of the ground. People always say, well, pop comes out

1394
01:36:45.520 --> 01:36:47.399
<v Speaker 4>of the ground. I'm like, I bet that lot didn't.

1395
01:36:50.199 --> 01:36:52.560
<v Speaker 1>And if you have questions, you can go back and

1396
01:36:52.640 --> 01:36:57.359
<v Speaker 1>listen to our show about that they did. Because yeah,

1397
01:36:57.439 --> 01:37:02.880
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of people that don't don't and would

1398
01:37:02.920 --> 01:37:07.159
<v Speaker 1>never think that, uh pot is the problem.

1399
01:37:07.600 --> 01:37:10.319
<v Speaker 4>And they would never drink like a bad soda, which

1400
01:37:10.319 --> 01:37:13.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm naughty. I still look I'm not some way crazy naturalistic.

1401
01:37:13.800 --> 01:37:16.760
<v Speaker 4>I'd love to be, but I'm not. You know, I'm

1402
01:37:16.800 --> 01:37:19.600
<v Speaker 4>careful about certain things I do. Yes, there's certain things

1403
01:37:19.680 --> 01:37:24.279
<v Speaker 4>I don't like or wouldn't do, but this is highly

1404
01:37:24.640 --> 01:37:28.920
<v Speaker 4>your own personal decision and I still want to live sometimes.

1405
01:37:28.960 --> 01:37:31.800
<v Speaker 4>But also I'm not going out to crappy eating all

1406
01:37:31.840 --> 01:37:34.439
<v Speaker 4>the time like I do. Think there's something about cooking

1407
01:37:34.479 --> 01:37:38.119
<v Speaker 4>food with love and in your home, because yes, everything's tainted,

1408
01:37:38.239 --> 01:37:42.239
<v Speaker 4>even the vegetables from the highest most natural foods place whatever.

1409
01:37:43.039 --> 01:37:47.159
<v Speaker 4>Yeah you're yeah, you're right, But also that love and

1410
01:37:47.760 --> 01:37:50.600
<v Speaker 4>praying over food and all that stuff. It matters the

1411
01:37:50.680 --> 01:37:54.920
<v Speaker 4>water though, one hundred percent. I would not drink tap water,

1412
01:37:54.960 --> 01:37:57.760
<v Speaker 4>and I've said that a lot so and the Brita

1413
01:37:57.800 --> 01:38:01.319
<v Speaker 4>ain't gonna cut it like no offense, I'm sure, But

1414
01:38:01.920 --> 01:38:06.319
<v Speaker 4>you need reverse osmosis water, especially if your children are growing,

1415
01:38:06.520 --> 01:38:09.399
<v Speaker 4>like if they're young and not solidified in their hormones.

1416
01:38:09.399 --> 01:38:13.800
<v Speaker 4>Because like everybody laughed at Alex Jones, but you might

1417
01:38:13.880 --> 01:38:17.159
<v Speaker 4>want to look at the frog's gay story again. But

1418
01:38:17.199 --> 01:38:20.439
<v Speaker 4>it's nothing against gay people. Yeah, no, I'm just saying

1419
01:38:20.920 --> 01:38:24.439
<v Speaker 4>it makes you want to change your actual sex for

1420
01:38:24.520 --> 01:38:27.960
<v Speaker 4>certain reasons because of certain hormones. And he was right, like,

1421
01:38:28.039 --> 01:38:30.720
<v Speaker 4>if you look up that drug, I can't remember the

1422
01:38:30.800 --> 01:38:32.479
<v Speaker 4>name of it right now, it starts with a kN A,

1423
01:38:32.720 --> 01:38:35.399
<v Speaker 4>But if you put in the frogs are gay drug,

1424
01:38:35.520 --> 01:38:40.199
<v Speaker 4>it'll come up. But yeah, I know how it sounds, man,

1425
01:38:40.520 --> 01:38:43.960
<v Speaker 4>But these frogs literally turned from male to female because

1426
01:38:44.039 --> 01:38:47.560
<v Speaker 4>of a lack of the population, and they're like with

1427
01:38:47.640 --> 01:38:51.720
<v Speaker 4>their whole species to like procreate and change over to

1428
01:38:51.880 --> 01:38:55.760
<v Speaker 4>like enable their species to continue. And then they're putting

1429
01:38:55.760 --> 01:39:00.319
<v Speaker 4>that kind of stuff in everything they you know, why

1430
01:39:00.359 --> 01:39:02.479
<v Speaker 4>are they putting? And me and Janet have done this

1431
01:39:02.520 --> 01:39:05.079
<v Speaker 4>and our weight loss shows and other shows about lizard

1432
01:39:05.159 --> 01:39:09.199
<v Speaker 4>DNA or chicken DNA or whatever they're doing. You know,

1433
01:39:09.279 --> 01:39:11.600
<v Speaker 4>this is all really nefarious when you pull it.

1434
01:39:11.560 --> 01:39:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Apart right one hundred percent.

1435
01:39:14.399 --> 01:39:17.880
<v Speaker 4>And he is okay now, by the way, that's.

1436
01:39:17.600 --> 01:39:20.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, and that in itself is a blessing because

1437
01:39:21.079 --> 01:39:24.760
<v Speaker 1>that's a lot of stuff to go through and I'm

1438
01:39:24.840 --> 01:39:30.720
<v Speaker 1>sure terrifying for him, and probably even well after he

1439
01:39:30.960 --> 01:39:32.000
<v Speaker 1>was better.

1440
01:39:32.319 --> 01:39:37.479
<v Speaker 4>Oh still sure, sure, I know we don't. We can't

1441
01:39:37.520 --> 01:39:40.600
<v Speaker 4>talk about certain conspiracies around him. We can't talk about

1442
01:39:40.640 --> 01:39:43.039
<v Speaker 4>certain things around him because it freaks him out. It

1443
01:39:43.079 --> 01:39:45.880
<v Speaker 4>reminds him of that time, like specially demonic realm stuff

1444
01:39:45.880 --> 01:39:47.720
<v Speaker 4>like even though it's true, like he doesn't want to

1445
01:39:48.199 --> 01:39:51.279
<v Speaker 4>hear that, he'll do God, that's okay, And we have

1446
01:39:51.359 --> 01:39:53.439
<v Speaker 4>to meet people where they're comfortable. You know, I'm not

1447
01:39:53.560 --> 01:39:58.239
<v Speaker 4>gonna do that to him. But also he's careful about himself.

1448
01:39:58.359 --> 01:40:01.079
<v Speaker 4>He doesn't go and put himself in those situations anymore.

1449
01:40:01.279 --> 01:40:04.239
<v Speaker 4>You know, I definitely learned. He just had another baby.

1450
01:40:04.720 --> 01:40:07.640
<v Speaker 4>He's a father and has you know, his girlfriend and

1451
01:40:07.720 --> 01:40:10.399
<v Speaker 4>him or a cute little family, and and thank heavens

1452
01:40:10.399 --> 01:40:13.960
<v Speaker 4>because that was a really scary time. Like even if

1453
01:40:14.000 --> 01:40:15.760
<v Speaker 4>I bring it up to my husband now and he's

1454
01:40:15.760 --> 01:40:19.159
<v Speaker 4>a big strong guy, Janet's seeing him. He's his big

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01:40:19.239 --> 01:40:21.920
<v Speaker 4>meathead and I'll tell you, you want to see somebody

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01:40:21.920 --> 01:40:24.600
<v Speaker 4>cry like a baby Like that is the most terrified

1457
01:40:24.640 --> 01:40:26.079
<v Speaker 4>we have ever been for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and there's a lot in that situation. You know

1459
01:40:30.840 --> 01:40:37.399
<v Speaker 1>that that brings that horrible fear over parents when they're

1460
01:40:38.079 --> 01:40:40.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, watching their kids going through something like that,

1461
01:40:41.279 --> 01:40:44.920
<v Speaker 1>watch being a parent and seeing your kids deal with

1462
01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:49.239
<v Speaker 1>anything is terrible, but especially when it's something like that.

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01:40:49.720 --> 01:40:54.800
<v Speaker 4>Where especially when they're adults. Yeah, yeah, because you cannot

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01:40:54.840 --> 01:40:56.920
<v Speaker 4>fix it for them, and you will not be able

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01:40:56.960 --> 01:40:59.920
<v Speaker 4>to fix everything for them. It's just like with my daughter,

1466
01:41:00.119 --> 01:41:02.840
<v Speaker 4>like there's something that I can't fix there and there's

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01:41:02.880 --> 01:41:06.399
<v Speaker 4>nothing I can do, you know, and all I can

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01:41:06.439 --> 01:41:09.119
<v Speaker 4>do is say I love her and pray and some things.

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01:41:09.159 --> 01:41:14.119
<v Speaker 4>That's all you can do, you know, be proactive. If

1470
01:41:14.159 --> 01:41:17.119
<v Speaker 4>you can do what you can, work through what you can,

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01:41:17.279 --> 01:41:18.319
<v Speaker 4>and what you can't, you.

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01:41:18.279 --> 01:41:23.119
<v Speaker 1>Give to God one hundred percent. So I'm going to

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01:41:23.159 --> 01:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>share my story, not my personal story, but someone that

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01:41:27.640 --> 01:41:32.399
<v Speaker 1>I know that I was friends with for quite a while,

1475
01:41:35.199 --> 01:41:43.880
<v Speaker 1>had the angelic visitation psychosis happened. She believed that she

1476
01:41:44.159 --> 01:41:50.720
<v Speaker 1>was speaking to the archangel Gabriel and Michael, and that

1477
01:41:51.239 --> 01:41:56.800
<v Speaker 1>these two angels at different times were speaking to her

1478
01:41:57.000 --> 01:42:03.800
<v Speaker 1>through her husband, and that she got pregnant, and she

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01:42:06.159 --> 01:42:10.119
<v Speaker 1>fully believed, and no one could tell her any differently,

1480
01:42:12.640 --> 01:42:15.159
<v Speaker 1>that the baby that she was pregnant with was going

1481
01:42:15.239 --> 01:42:18.199
<v Speaker 1>to be the savior of the world and the Satan

1482
01:42:18.279 --> 01:42:24.239
<v Speaker 1>slayer demon slayer and was going to raise up an

1483
01:42:24.439 --> 01:42:31.439
<v Speaker 1>army to fight Satan's minions and the whole nine yards,

1484
01:42:31.520 --> 01:42:34.840
<v Speaker 1>and it like listening to her talk about it, it

1485
01:42:34.920 --> 01:42:37.279
<v Speaker 1>was the every time you would listen to her, it

1486
01:42:37.359 --> 01:42:41.600
<v Speaker 1>was the craziest thing. And these conversations with the angels

1487
01:42:41.640 --> 01:42:46.600
<v Speaker 1>would literally go on for hours every time she had

1488
01:42:46.640 --> 01:42:51.920
<v Speaker 1>this thing, and they were literally moving her husband's lips

1489
01:42:51.960 --> 01:42:55.760
<v Speaker 1>and talking to her the whole time. The thing about

1490
01:42:55.800 --> 01:43:02.119
<v Speaker 1>her is she did a lot of marijuana, and I

1491
01:43:02.239 --> 01:43:08.399
<v Speaker 1>mean a lot of marijuana. Like literally, if you've ever

1492
01:43:08.520 --> 01:43:14.680
<v Speaker 1>seen anybody like chain smoke like a vape pin, and

1493
01:43:14.760 --> 01:43:17.840
<v Speaker 1>it's like every two seconds, all the time, all day long.

1494
01:43:19.000 --> 01:43:24.159
<v Speaker 1>That's her and her cannabis. Use. I went on a

1495
01:43:24.199 --> 01:43:27.479
<v Speaker 1>trip with her one time and she literally went through

1496
01:43:29.039 --> 01:43:32.960
<v Speaker 1>like fifteen of the vape pins, dad pins what.

1497
01:43:33.000 --> 01:43:33.359
<v Speaker 4>I you call.

1498
01:43:33.640 --> 01:43:39.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a big I'm not real versed in that realm,

1499
01:43:39.520 --> 01:43:43.640
<v Speaker 1>but anyway, it was like those and it was like constantly,

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01:43:43.960 --> 01:43:45.600
<v Speaker 1>like all the time.

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01:43:45.840 --> 01:43:46.239
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

1502
01:43:46.479 --> 01:43:50.479
<v Speaker 1>And so not only did she have the hallucination, she

1503
01:43:50.640 --> 01:43:55.800
<v Speaker 1>was having the delusions, she started getting uber paranoid and

1504
01:43:56.039 --> 01:44:00.399
<v Speaker 1>like everybody was out toget her and all these deans

1505
01:44:00.439 --> 01:44:04.399
<v Speaker 1>were surrounding them and attacking them and whatever, and so

1506
01:44:04.520 --> 01:44:11.039
<v Speaker 1>she got the uber altered perception of reality and what

1507
01:44:11.239 --> 01:44:13.439
<v Speaker 1>was really going on. It was almost kind of like

1508
01:44:13.479 --> 01:44:18.359
<v Speaker 1>she was living in a fantasy realm type thing. And

1509
01:44:18.880 --> 01:44:22.319
<v Speaker 1>like I said, since she thought that they were telling

1510
01:44:22.359 --> 01:44:26.199
<v Speaker 1>her that this baby was a savior, was gonna slay

1511
01:44:26.239 --> 01:44:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Satan and all of that stuff, she felt like the

1512
01:44:29.720 --> 01:44:32.920
<v Speaker 1>virgin Mary. She felt like she was the chosen one, right.

1513
01:44:34.960 --> 01:44:42.199
<v Speaker 1>And so did she have a history of mental illness

1514
01:44:42.239 --> 01:44:46.600
<v Speaker 1>prior to that, yes? Was it ever properly addressed?

1515
01:44:47.800 --> 01:44:47.960
<v Speaker 4>No?

1516
01:44:49.640 --> 01:44:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Did she have trauma?

1517
01:44:51.520 --> 01:44:51.760
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

1518
01:44:52.640 --> 01:44:54.359
<v Speaker 1>Was that ever properly addressed.

1519
01:44:54.560 --> 01:44:54.760
<v Speaker 4>No?

1520
01:44:55.880 --> 01:45:01.319
<v Speaker 1>Hence the copious amounts of marijuana. And and so she

1521
01:45:01.560 --> 01:45:08.159
<v Speaker 1>went through the whole nine yards and lost a lot

1522
01:45:08.159 --> 01:45:15.159
<v Speaker 1>of friends and whatever. She got very violent physically verbally

1523
01:45:15.960 --> 01:45:19.920
<v Speaker 1>the whole nine yards. I don't know if she ever

1524
01:45:19.960 --> 01:45:22.800
<v Speaker 1>got treatment, but I do know that she actually lost

1525
01:45:22.800 --> 01:45:23.640
<v Speaker 1>the baby.

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01:45:24.479 --> 01:45:29.159
<v Speaker 4>From all all stuff. So that would be so devastating too.

1527
01:45:29.359 --> 01:45:32.439
<v Speaker 4>On top of it, Oh my gosh.

1528
01:45:33.000 --> 01:45:36.359
<v Speaker 1>So and that's like, you know, it was crazy because

1529
01:45:36.760 --> 01:45:45.159
<v Speaker 1>like she would record like four hour long videos where

1530
01:45:46.359 --> 01:45:50.760
<v Speaker 1>her husband is sound asleep and supposedly talking to her

1531
01:45:51.119 --> 01:45:56.479
<v Speaker 1>and whatever, and like pushed away a lot of family,

1532
01:45:56.720 --> 01:46:01.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot of friends, and she Wow, believe that they

1533
01:46:01.920 --> 01:46:09.279
<v Speaker 1>basically like she was given like prophecy from these angels

1534
01:46:09.319 --> 01:46:12.439
<v Speaker 1>as to how the world was going to play out

1535
01:46:12.600 --> 01:46:14.840
<v Speaker 1>and what roles they were going to play, and.

1536
01:46:16.600 --> 01:46:19.560
<v Speaker 4>If she was healthy and not like not having all

1537
01:46:19.600 --> 01:46:22.800
<v Speaker 4>these issues and not using drugs and not, like there's

1538
01:46:22.840 --> 01:46:26.119
<v Speaker 4>so many And I hate to say that because like, yeah,

1539
01:46:26.199 --> 01:46:28.560
<v Speaker 4>we're not weighing in on either side, and people aren't

1540
01:46:28.560 --> 01:46:33.479
<v Speaker 4>real like that, but it's so individualized. You know, are

1541
01:46:33.520 --> 01:46:37.319
<v Speaker 4>you conjuring, are you using illicit substances? Are you using

1542
01:46:37.600 --> 01:46:40.159
<v Speaker 4>whatever the thing is? Like what are you doing to

1543
01:46:40.239 --> 01:46:43.479
<v Speaker 4>have that happen? Because clearly I believe that Mary saw

1544
01:46:43.520 --> 01:46:48.560
<v Speaker 4>an angel, you know, I mean like yeah, but also

1545
01:46:49.359 --> 01:46:54.319
<v Speaker 4>this other stuff is all also mocking because what what

1546
01:46:54.399 --> 01:46:56.680
<v Speaker 4>does the devil do? You know?

1547
01:46:57.159 --> 01:46:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Turns everything upside down?

1548
01:46:59.560 --> 01:47:03.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and copies copy, copy, copies. So it doesn't surprise

1549
01:47:04.039 --> 01:47:07.279
<v Speaker 4>me that there's you know, other religions, almost all of

1550
01:47:07.279 --> 01:47:10.560
<v Speaker 4>them that have seen angels on me, but they had

1551
01:47:10.600 --> 01:47:14.680
<v Speaker 4>to pay a price, right like Jehovah's Witnesses, it's Michael

1552
01:47:14.920 --> 01:47:18.359
<v Speaker 4>and and they have done some really weird stuff with

1553
01:47:18.479 --> 01:47:22.840
<v Speaker 4>that whole religion. And then you know, with Islam and everything,

1554
01:47:22.920 --> 01:47:26.479
<v Speaker 4>it was Gabriel and you know, I mean, but they

1555
01:47:26.520 --> 01:47:29.760
<v Speaker 4>also like did polygamy whether or not, and they you know,

1556
01:47:29.800 --> 01:47:33.279
<v Speaker 4>hold down women, they do. I'm sorry, like that religion

1557
01:47:33.319 --> 01:47:37.199
<v Speaker 4>oppresses people, not just women, right, and you know, they

1558
01:47:37.199 --> 01:47:40.399
<v Speaker 4>have loopholes that are really weird. And I'm not you know,

1559
01:47:40.520 --> 01:47:43.880
<v Speaker 4>saying my ex religion wasn't weird too, Joseph Smith and

1560
01:47:43.920 --> 01:47:46.920
<v Speaker 4>polygamy and all the weird things and and his son's

1561
01:47:46.960 --> 01:47:49.520
<v Speaker 4>death and like all this stuff. You know, it's always

1562
01:47:49.560 --> 01:47:52.520
<v Speaker 4>a price, even with John d even with Crowley, Like

1563
01:47:53.079 --> 01:47:55.880
<v Speaker 4>if it is a price to be paid, I don't

1564
01:47:55.920 --> 01:47:58.000
<v Speaker 4>think that's a kind of loving God. And then people

1565
01:47:58.039 --> 01:47:59.439
<v Speaker 4>will come at you and say, well, look at the

1566
01:47:59.439 --> 01:48:02.800
<v Speaker 4>Old Testament. Look, you can justify it however you want.

1567
01:48:03.560 --> 01:48:06.039
<v Speaker 4>But at the end of the day, I think there's

1568
01:48:06.039 --> 01:48:07.920
<v Speaker 4>a lot of dark forces in this realm.

1569
01:48:08.159 --> 01:48:12.600
<v Speaker 1>We have to be careful one hundred percent. And you know,

1570
01:48:13.640 --> 01:48:17.199
<v Speaker 1>like we talked about earlier, there's a big difference between

1571
01:48:17.680 --> 01:48:24.760
<v Speaker 1>that actual spiritual awakening and the psychosis portion. And if

1572
01:48:24.800 --> 01:48:30.920
<v Speaker 1>you're one of those people, that is, if you're confident

1573
01:48:31.079 --> 01:48:34.560
<v Speaker 1>in who you are, and I don't mean conceited, but

1574
01:48:34.720 --> 01:48:38.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean confident in who you are and you have,

1575
01:48:39.840 --> 01:48:44.439
<v Speaker 1>like after an encounter like that, and you decide that

1576
01:48:44.840 --> 01:48:47.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're going to change your life for the better.

1577
01:48:47.279 --> 01:48:50.600
<v Speaker 1>You're going to start helping people. You know, you're going

1578
01:48:50.680 --> 01:48:53.199
<v Speaker 1>to be more patient, You're going to be you know,

1579
01:48:53.319 --> 01:48:57.880
<v Speaker 1>more loving, more kind, more gentle, all the things right

1580
01:48:58.199 --> 01:49:02.560
<v Speaker 1>that God wants us to be. That's a spiritual awakening.

1581
01:49:03.319 --> 01:49:07.079
<v Speaker 1>That is not psychosis. A psychosis is when you just

1582
01:49:07.279 --> 01:49:13.760
<v Speaker 1>lose all perception of reality, you lose all individuality, all creativity,

1583
01:49:14.560 --> 01:49:20.279
<v Speaker 1>and you become under the control and manipulation of something else.

1584
01:49:21.560 --> 01:49:24.520
<v Speaker 1>It's not a good force that's controlling that.

1585
01:49:25.560 --> 01:49:30.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's not control. It shouldn't never be control. So yeah,

1586
01:49:30.399 --> 01:49:33.239
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. It's a fine line, but it's something

1587
01:49:33.279 --> 01:49:35.319
<v Speaker 4>that needs to be addressed because I think it happens

1588
01:49:35.359 --> 01:49:36.439
<v Speaker 4>to more people than we know.

1589
01:49:37.199 --> 01:49:43.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh one hundred percent. So, Darling, I really appreciate you

1590
01:49:43.439 --> 01:49:45.760
<v Speaker 1>spending time with me again. Love you.

1591
01:49:47.560 --> 01:49:48.119
<v Speaker 4>Much. Love.

1592
01:49:49.159 --> 01:49:52.159
<v Speaker 1>So where can the peepers find you at?

1593
01:49:52.560 --> 01:49:55.119
<v Speaker 4>Of course? So everybody. I am Heidy love of the

1594
01:49:55.199 --> 01:49:58.199
<v Speaker 4>Unfiltered Rise. I'm everywhere podcasts are served. You can go

1595
01:49:58.239 --> 01:50:01.279
<v Speaker 4>to my website Unfiltered Rise pod cast dot com, and

1596
01:50:01.640 --> 01:50:04.000
<v Speaker 4>you can go to my Patreon, where you will probably

1597
01:50:04.039 --> 01:50:06.840
<v Speaker 4>find this video with me and my bestie Janet, and

1598
01:50:06.880 --> 01:50:09.920
<v Speaker 4>we have so much fun. It's way better than just listening.

1599
01:50:10.079 --> 01:50:12.039
<v Speaker 4>I think it's more fun to watch us be silly.

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01:50:12.239 --> 01:50:18.159
<v Speaker 4>So you should see us there. They shouldn't see us there,

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01:50:19.000 --> 01:50:23.119
<v Speaker 4>Yes they should. Where will see you.

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01:50:23.760 --> 01:50:27.520
<v Speaker 1>So if you want to watch, you could watch on

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01:50:27.600 --> 01:50:35.039
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1604
01:50:35.239 --> 01:50:39.399
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1605
01:50:39.560 --> 01:50:42.239
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1606
01:50:42.439 --> 01:50:46.840
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1607
01:50:46.880 --> 01:50:50.439
<v Speaker 1>and on Twitter it is no Janet Kate in ow.

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<v Speaker 1>So for me and for my fabulous bestie, we love

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<v Speaker 1>you so much. Thanks for listening, Thanks for tuning in,

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<v Speaker 1>Go like, comment, share, subscribe, download, YadA, YadA YadA. Because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, we're pretty cool. So anyway, for me

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<v Speaker 1>and for Reidy, have a great day and we'll cut

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<v Speaker 1>you next time. Have a good one.
