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mix in some vodka. It's color a podcast from the

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Speaker 3: It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Well, hello and welcome. Thank you for getting your pot on,

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Thanks for telling a friend. That's how we spread the word.

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Just before Saint Patrick's Day.

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Speaker 3: Danny's here, Saint Patrick's Day. Then spring, yeah, then more snow.

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Speaker 1: Probably around here. I don't know. You know. What I

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like to do, though, is on days like today, you

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feel good, don't you know? The sun's out? Man, right

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when the sun shine, and especially where we're from, right

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against a lot of great days, a lot of cloudy days.

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We're by a great lake, so that the heck with

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work effects our weather patterns. But what I like to

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do on sunny days is when I'm at a traffic

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light and people are turning, like maybe coming across traffic

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so they have to go in front of me. I

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liked try to guess the mood in the car. Really Yeah,

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I like to look and I like to see, and

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especially like when I see couples because I go. There

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are times where you can see. Like I saw some

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woman she was just giving this guy a fucking earfall

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and he's driving. He's just like you could see both

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hands and she's like right in here. Then I see

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another couple. She's laughing as she they came around the turn.

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She's laughing and he's laughing. Then I saw a mom

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a very serious focus with the kid in the front seat,

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obviously under a sporting event. She doesn't want to go

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to wherever she's going. She does not want to take

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him to the kid to wear it else practice, yeah,

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wherever it was, and I go, this is amazing. This

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is like one of my favorite hobbies, people watching. But

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then trying to guess the mood in the car of

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the cars that drive by. Wow, you know.

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Speaker 3: What's funny you mentioned that. So yesterday or was it

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Tuesday was pretty sunny out it was nice out right, yeah,

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And I was at a red light and it's one

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of those where it could you have a green arrow

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and a red light the double light at the bottom.

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So I had the red light. The people across from

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me had the green arrow, so they're cutting in front

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of me and I'm just waiting for him. Right then

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it turns green, so I'm supposed to go, and the

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car next to me is the double highway double double

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lanes is supposed to go too. So we start going.

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But the cars who got the arrow, yeah no longer

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have the arrow, just kept going going six cars deep.

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We're like, the lady next to me is hawking the

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horle like what the lif like screaming and I could

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I can hear because our windows are down. It's a

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nice day, right, mean, well, the boon of the people

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like screw you guys, I've taken the I'm taking the turn,

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whether I have the arrow or not. Rush.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, once you get going, what are you gonna do

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about it?

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Speaker 3: It's lunch time.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's like, what are you gonna do about it?

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Speaker 3: I gotta get the wind even you know it's a problem.

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Speaker 1: I want to play something. I tried to reach out

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to these people and maybe we'll get them on the

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podcast at another time. I did speak to them a

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little bit today. I don't know if you saw this.

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Are you familiar with a store called Deuces?

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Speaker 3: Is a hairstorm a hair salon. I've heard of a

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hair salon called Maduces.

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Speaker 1: Oh that would make any sense, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: Be Well, snake's coming out of your hair will make

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your hair look beautiful?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Now this is an adult like novelty shop. My next

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guest down on Monroe Avenue.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that makes total sense. I think I've I've heard

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of this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's like way down okay Monroe.

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Speaker 3: Like deep like by the by the Strong Museum or yeah, yeah,

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yeah yeah before that little turn.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, Deuces and uh. I tried to

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get them on, but they put out a video of

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someone committing a crime in their store. Somebody had slips

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on it in her pocket, but they do.

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Speaker 3: If you see this person, do not approach that.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's weird.

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Speaker 3: They dangerous.

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Speaker 1: I want to know how she created this video, because

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it's fantastic. I'll give you some This is what it

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sounds like right here.

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Speaker 4: Rochester, New York City filled with stories. Some are ordinary,

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but some are deeply perplexing. On the night of March eighth,

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Totty twenty five, one man entered a local adult boutique.

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Within minutes, he would commit a crime so brazen it

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would leave the staff baffroom. His target a large metal

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butt plange.

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Speaker 1: At first glance, so clearly it's an AI voice, but

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plug this guy's dead.

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Speaker 4: An adult Mayo medium build sporting a gray jacket, blue pants,

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and a white hood dealer show.

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Speaker 1: The guy and like all over their social media, who's

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it's like.

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Speaker 4: His movements were calculated, his attention engaged, but his surveill

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answer recordings later revealed this was no casual shopping trip

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to Medusa's. The man appeared to note what he wanted.

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He positioned himself near the wall of butt plums, then

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suddenly fifting his stats, as if trying to avoid the

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visible camera nearby. What he did not realize was that

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he wasn't as clever as he thought. From a separate

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fatish point, surveils cameras captured everything at precisely nine twenty

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four pm. The suspect made his move with the dexterity

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of a season shoplifter, or perhaps just a desperate man,

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which for the heavy metal object, slipped it into his pocket.

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With his prize now secured, he did not flee. Instead,

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he continued brousing the very same display, eyeing other butt plots.

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Is it debating whether to take another?

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Speaker 1: Was he being greedy and.

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Speaker 4: Second guess in his selection, or was he simply trying

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to appear normal? The answer remains unknown. What happened next

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was truly bizarre for what seemed like an attempt to

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appear casually. What happened next he asked a question, a

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question that, in hindsight appears like a poorly constructed distraction.

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What's the best and cheapest loop?

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Speaker 1: The best a chief is loob.

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Speaker 3: Aren't you?

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Speaker 1: Why why are you asking?

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Speaker 3: What's is still the lube?

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Speaker 1: Here's the problem with uh, there's no problem with this.

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I mean you can what's the best the cheapest loop? Yeah,

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but who says it?

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Speaker 3: Says AI always mispron a few words here and the judges,

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I think at the end it says something.

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Speaker 4: Was he driven by desperation? Was this a crime of passion?

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Or is it simply the work of a man on

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going to pay retail price. If you recognize this individual,

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or if you have any information on the whereabouts of

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the missing metal butt clock, hears you to come forward.

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Your tip could helps solve this unusual and perplexing case.

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ADUSS will never judge what you buy it. They will

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judge you when you steal it and shame you on

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social media. And in the end, no matter how discreet

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you thing you are, the cameras always win.

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Speaker 1: Well. Two things, The cameras are no longer grainy bigfoot

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footage in a store rights, none of that. It's like

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high definition. You get to see this guy and all

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his glory slide a butt plug into his pocket.

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Speaker 3: Is that Fred?

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Speaker 1: And I know somebody probably would recognize the butt plug.

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Speaker 3: Now the guy had a French accident the butt plug.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So this is Ai. But I talked to somebody

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at Medusa's today and I said, this is fantastic, and

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then he said, well, it's not the first time we've

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done it. We've done a couple of these when we

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get people shots.

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Speaker 3: On Netflix, so it would be funny.

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Speaker 1: But so, you know, I had questions about this. But

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here's my I'm trying to think about this, Like if

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I saw my friend, like, let's say that was my

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Christian friend who just just straight a.

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Speaker 3: Little from Jesus that day, okay, you know, or canist

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or not?

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Speaker 1: No, no, you like just straight a little bit and

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went there, Am I gonna like blow them in? Or

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am I going to have a good laugh. I'm immediately

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calling some people to go Christian.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we go to Matthew nineteen I think it is,

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and we would confront them with two or three brothers

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and be like, hey, listen, did you steal that butt

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plug from Medusa's? Was that you? Is this you on

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this video? You need to repent, You need to return

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the plug. Okay, I haven't used it all.

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Speaker 1: Now hang on a second, Hang on a second, Let.

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Speaker 3: Me what were you doing at Medusa's.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me give you, let me get we'll see. Now.

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The thing is, like, I'm thinking, I wonder if this

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dude likes a butt plug himself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: Well, well not always like.

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Speaker 3: And if he did, like, he could have been a

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little bit better at like picking it up. I have

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bought without his hands.

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Speaker 1: I have bought, I've bought out. I've bought toys, toys,

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but they weren't toys that were for me necessarily there, Yes,

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so I would think that this would be for someone else.

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But I'm wondering if this guy thought this is written

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all over my face. I'm so ashamed. So I'm just

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gonna slide in here and then I'm gonna ask him

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what's the cheapest loop?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to be a total a total thief.

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Speaker 1: Well he didn't buy it, he didn't even buy it,

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but there's you can't get away with this. So if that,

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You're scrolling through social media. All of a sudden, you

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see somebody. You go, what, holy crap, that's Kevin.

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Speaker 3: Glad you said it. I'll think about saying it, like, nah, man,

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I want to get the call that's Kevin.

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Speaker 1: Would you then call Kevin and go what's going on?

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Say hey, you're all over social media? Or do you

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call me and we have a great laugh about it.

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Speaker 3: I call you first, Yes.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, and then I may call Kevin

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and go, buddy, what the fuck is this? Because that

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would be my thing, because it would be easier. I

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think out of the two of us, And I may

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be wrong, but I think if you get a call

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from me, go what the fuck is going on? It's

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way different than because you get you've become like fatherly. Hey, keV,

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I saw a video of you and I keep it late.

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I don't know. I think I would be more uncomfortable,

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especially if you call me knowing, knowing that we're not

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supposed to judge, and you're probably not, but you are,

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and I would be embarrassed that I was getting the

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call from you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my, Yeah, There's so many different directions we

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could go with this.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm just saying, like, you know, if you did.

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Speaker 3: That, I'm I definitely call you first. Pro Listen, that's

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the thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm calling. Like four or five people go home.

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Speaker 3: And I called Tommy. Hey, Tommy, remember me, Hey, I

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got a story for you, bro check this down.

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Speaker 1: I'm calling Laura. I'm going Laura, you won't believe this,

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but because you go, all right, why would you steal

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a butt plug? You know what I mean? At all things?

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Speaker 3: And at first I would gossip and then I'd use

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the gospel. That's my method, So go ahead. I had

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to get that in there.

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Speaker 1: Well, I go it's desperation or embarrassment, right, maybe really

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one of them was too embarrassed to buy it. I

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mean that that, but I can't imagine. Then you would

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ask you.

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Speaker 3: About could you go to Amazon?

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Speaker 1: Then yes you could.

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Speaker 3: They sell everything except for Confederate flags and DBDs of

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Dukes of Hatzard. Other than that, like a pretty much

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buy everything.

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Speaker 1: Some people have trouble certain purchases or or are shamed

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because of the society we live in. Maybe he has

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a thrill of stealing things. Maybe that could be.

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Speaker 3: He's in the dudes.

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Speaker 1: Well he may not be into dudes, but he might

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like a little bit of stimulation down there, could be right, Yeah,

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you know, I mean I'm known women, but known of women,

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I don't know any that have you know, just fitted

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to playing with the.

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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty five. So it's not uncommon to go into

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Wegman's and see or anywhere and see or the doctor's

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office or a library, any public place and not see

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one or two people with a mask on. Yeah, I

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don't want to get sick. It's cool to see. Could you,

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just like, you know, put one of those eight ninety

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five whatever those masks are. By the way, I still

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have a ton of yes, could you?

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Speaker 1: I could be a dare or a prank but I

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don't think so.

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Speaker 3: Could be a fraternity man, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't think so. When you see the guy, but you.

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Speaker 3: Do meduces and steal butt plugs, but plugs and then

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you need to ask about the cheapest lube? Is this

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made with seed oils?

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get sicklug healthy the uh because

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I'm thinking if you were using the butt plug on yourself,

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you may want to use loube. You probably don't want

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a rod dog that one.

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Speaker 3: I have no idea what imagine that old toy in there? Yeah,

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I'm not you know, I've never.

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Speaker 1: You know, exciting. You don't have to explain to me

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I I I never just look at you and think automatically,

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that's a guy that likes a good old fashioned but plug.

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I bet your booze got a butt plug A drawer

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full of them.

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Speaker 3: What are those four. What are we gonnat it tonight?

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Speaker 1: Plug it in?

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Speaker 3: What it's one of those glad air fresheners.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, that would even be better, probably help, probably

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help you. Have you ever like smelled yourself engrossed yourself

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out from the smell of yourself once a week? Well,

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I don't mean it like the bathroom. I I have

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had this to happen twice now at the gym. Oh yeah,

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at the gym, because a lot of times, like I'll

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get up in the morning, get Jamison to where he

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needs to be, go to the gym. I haven't put

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on deodorant today. I did. Ah, I thought I forgot

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my earbuds, so I then find my earbuds after but

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I go, yeah, I go. You know what I'm gonna go.

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I'm gonna do a class. So I checked the schedule

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real quick. There's a boot camp class I'm in. I'm

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gonna do the boot camp class to really push myself

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something I haven't done in a long time. Box jumps,

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the whole thing, bo sue over right, you know, bench,

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all this stuff, and I still have what do you.

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Speaker 3: Mean, the bowsuit, the balls? They still they still use those.

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Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they?

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Speaker 3: I thought they went out of style.

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Speaker 5: What are you?

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Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Go out of style?

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Speaker 3: To fucking go. I can't continue. I apologize both suits

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go out of style.

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Speaker 1: Now you can put them upside down. Do push ups

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on them? You can do. I always did hopovers on them.

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They were good.

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Speaker 3: I used to people using the ball completely.

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Speaker 1: But you're right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now I think about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry they get a flat side.

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Speaker 3: Sorry.

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Speaker 1: So afterwards, I see a guy that I haven't seen

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in a while, and I'm talking to him, and I

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was starting to smell myself, like there's boh bad, Like

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it's bad. Oh, yeah, it's really bad. Then the other

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day it must have been I was going to I

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was going to take a shower today. I forgot my towel,

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brought everything, forgot my towel, how to go home to shower.

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I was walking to the shower and I kept my

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shorts on as I paraded through because I didn't want

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to be one of those proud peacocks. You know, you

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always get that guy he does the Captain morganother Hey fellas.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes he got a turbinon.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I haven't seen that dud.

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Speaker 3: When I used to work out a Planet fitnessman. The

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first thing these guys were put on at the turbine,

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not the shirt, not the boxers, the turbine in the mirror.

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So we everybody, we got three six ty V This

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dude putting out his turban every freaking time. And I

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was like, I couldn't take my eyes off, and I

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was watching a trade wreck, but I won't see if

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this guy and it's just how long it takes the uh.

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Speaker 1: But I got a whiff. I got a whiff, like

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from undercarriage sweat. I was like, God, damn.

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Speaker 3: So do you wear those like special like shirts that

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like are like drive Okay, So I got like three

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or four of those, and I'll wear when I work

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out and I use the sauna in my house afterwards,

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a little mini sauna that I have. I sitting there

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for twenty minutes. And no matter how many times you

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wash them things, when you sweat that much in those shirts, right,

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it's so like that's why I think downy like you

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know those like it's one thing like when you used

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to wash your clothes, which is tide or detergent. Now

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you've got to add that downy fresh stuff on top

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of is if the detergent ain't work it anymore?

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Speaker 1: Well, it depends.

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Speaker 3: We just stick here as a pop.

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Speaker 1: It could be, that's my point. It could be.

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Speaker 3: Now detergent doesn't even work. Now you need to add

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extra detergent in your clothes.

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Speaker 1: But if Tide has a special one for sport, it's

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like Tide Sport.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, and it gets even more stick here. Yeah,

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you're Nike dry fit clothes. Gets all this stuff because

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Bethly couple goes, oh my gosh, you're you going to

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work out? I go, yeah, why you smell like you

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already have? I go, these are clean clothes. She goes, oh,

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I know, because it was dry. She goes, you just

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washed this. I remember just folding it. She goes, yeah,

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it's because you go in that sauna afterward and you

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let the clothes, like say sweater, you throw them in

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the hamper to get mildewy or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Oh jesus Dan, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But they're dry fit.

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Speaker 1: You know what. She needs to go and shame you

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on social media like they meduces.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. Like, so if you see this husband,

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do not approach him while he's working out in a

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Nike red shirt. It says dry fit smells terrible and

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one that says billified h because it can.

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Speaker 1: Raise awareness, like we always talk about. And here here's

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where I feel like I am getting old and I

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am an old man thinking now. But I go a

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little bit of shaming. I don't know that it's bad.

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Speaker 3: It's like it's like a flu shot. I'm not saying

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give you a little bit of the shame. It goes

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a long way to protect you from shame down the road.

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Speaker 1: The way Medusa's did this is they're not making fun

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of the guy. They're having fun with him. They're having

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fun with the guy. He's stole a product from them.

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They got to write it off. There's been a couple

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of these. It sucks. You're trying to run a business.

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You're trying to be honest. You got taxes you gotta pay.

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It's hard enough in New York State. And now this

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guy comes in.

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Speaker 3: He spent a lot of money on that video.

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Speaker 1: And who knows, he might have been twenty five bucks

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to for I don't know, it could have been fifty.

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But I don't know what the butt plug goes for.

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Some I would think if they really vibrate, I mean,

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if they really vibrate. It's got to like look like

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you took the lid off a blunder while making a

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chuckle up shape.

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Speaker 3: See, I was thinking, now that I think about it,

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splintered paintment, it may have been a shame based on

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the size of the plug. Think about this, Well, it's

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a silver bullet, but she showed it. The point is, though,

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is that and I can't imagine this, but theoretically I

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think that, like, after you start doing it a while,

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I've heard that there's more space created, so then you

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need a larger it. Maybe he was afraid that they

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would butt plugger God, Okay, I got uh.

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Speaker 1: I got corrected on my scenario. Oh, he says Kevin. Okay,

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Mark absolutely.

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Speaker 3: See Mark would have no shame. No, he wouldn't steal.

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But he walked in. He'd be like he like, wave

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here on a first day basis, all right, hey, did

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the shipment of what do you call it, astro glad

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come in yet?

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Speaker 1: Wow? Well look at you know, and then the name

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asked never mind. I don't, I don't know. No, I

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don't I don't even. I just think that a little

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bit of shame sometimes goes a good distance. And yeah,

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I'm not trying to, you know, embarrass you, make you

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feel bad about you, whatever. But I think, like sometimes

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you may think twice right, a little bit of shame.

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And like sometimes I see people the way they dress

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and leave their house, and I go, they should have

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a little bit of shame. You know, either they have

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no friends or they don't know what a mirror. I

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don't know which is which, but that's it. There are

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times where I will see a husband and I'll be

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and his wife, I'll go, how does she let him

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leave the house like this? His pants are practically on backwards.

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It's like, you know, a big fat belly hanging out

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that the shirt doesn't come down. You get to see

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the hair of the linds coming out of the belly

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button she's walking on.

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Speaker 3: I go, what that's when you're defeated.

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Speaker 1: She just threw up the white flags, I give up,

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But on the Red Cross it's over. Well, a little

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bit of shame. We'll put the video up on our

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see this.

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Speaker 3: Man, please approach him and rip on him.

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Speaker 1: There's a couple of things that I like to get to, Uh,

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two stories involving people. One is ridiculous and uh, we'll

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get into that and the other is kind of deranged.

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It makes you think some somewhere right now, Dan, somewhere

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right now, something awful is going on. We won't hear

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at it for years. No, I'm not even talking about that.

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I'm talking about somebody holding like remember the year I

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don't know if we were together then or not they

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held the girls in Cleveland in the basement.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we were together. Yeah, dead giveaway dead. I remember,

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like that was when auto tune became a thing. So

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anybody who made the news immediately got auto tune and

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became an overnight sensation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but like no one knew every day we

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had rams.

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Speaker 3: With this dude. Yeah, but we didn't have a clue.

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You can look it up the suck dead giveaway, dead giveaway, any.

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Speaker 1: Time of white.

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Speaker 3: We were up into a black man's arms, dead giveaway,

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dead giveaway. They made it a whole sun.

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Speaker 1: We ate rams with this dude, but we didn't have

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a clue about that completely. But I'm saying like that

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went on.

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Speaker 3: He looked like coolio.

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Speaker 1: That went on for a very long time.

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Speaker 3: All that money you give me goes to a Manda Berry.

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That was a name. That was the woman okay, because

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we tried to do it to go fund before him too,

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we could get a hold of them, so we end

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up re turning all the money back to the back

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to the people.

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Speaker 1: I just think that, uh, somewhere something like that is

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going on, and we won't hear. We won't hear about

473
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it for another five years.

474
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Speaker 3: And it'll be a lifetime movie before we find out.

475
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Speaker 1: When I say, somewhere, somewheres here in the United States,

476
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yes I here, well, okay here, yeah, great Rochesteria. But

477
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potentially it happens right on our noses.

478
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Speaker 3: We don't even know it, that's right, unfortunately, Yeah, Amna,

479
00:22:29,759 --> 00:22:34,000
Amanda granted, so right under you guys' noses. Poor curl

480
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to a reporter from Channel ten.

481
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Speaker 1: God, I just fucking hammered, that, didn't I I just

482
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,279
kept playing it right under.

483
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Speaker 3: You play it? You had me play it.

484
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Speaker 1: I was I didn't have it on my little Oh

485
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:44,640
that you that?

486
00:22:44,759 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you actually did get it out of the box.

487
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,000
I walked in that morning. You're like Diddy, Diddy, you

488
00:22:49,079 --> 00:22:51,559
gotta get to the audio from Channel tip first thing

489
00:22:51,559 --> 00:22:54,480
before you do anything else. Go to that clip. Tell

490
00:22:54,519 --> 00:22:57,160
me that's not hilarious. And then Tyy brown. Oh my gosh,

491
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that's a funny.

492
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Speaker 1: Was right under you guys's noses, you know, right under

493
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,279
you guys' noses. I remember the story.

494
00:23:03,319 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 3: I just remember the clip. By the way, I think

495
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,519
she works in Florida. Now she's she's in charge of

496
00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:11,240
like pr for like a sheriff's department down there.

497
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Speaker 1: Okay, well, now it's right. I was gonna say her, guys,

498
00:23:16,279 --> 00:23:22,480
she was a great reporter too. Okay, don't don't glazer.

499
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Speaker 3: I got my.

531
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Speaker 1: Mom to my mood. But I can't take a dumb

532
00:25:13,039 --> 00:25:15,880
because now my mom, I'm blocking.

533
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:21,839
Speaker 3: Up my oo once. Shame on you fool me twice.

534
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,039
Shame of God.

535
00:25:25,839 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: I pull too fine.

536
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Speaker 3: Now my school that's out.

537
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: Like a fucking yard.

538
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Speaker 5: This is real.

539
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, the listener sent it to me because now my

540
00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:47,480
bucket up. My lady doesn't want a life. Go into

541
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:55,119
Fairport music fast this summer, shy and solve the second.

542
00:25:55,200 --> 00:26:13,519
Speaker 3: Oh baby, fucking pleasus take me. I can't this actually

543
00:26:13,519 --> 00:26:17,119
happened for somebody to write a song, produced the song.

544
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,279
Speaker 1: I have a funny feeling it's a I or something,

545
00:26:19,319 --> 00:26:19,680
but I don't.

546
00:26:19,799 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a heck of an imagination. Like I've

547
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,319
never even imagined.

548
00:26:22,839 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: The balls to the but I like the I heard

549
00:26:24,839 --> 00:26:26,640
ass down, face down, ass up.

550
00:26:29,759 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 3: You know Motown had such great hits, Yeah.

551
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: All back in the day.

552
00:26:33,839 --> 00:26:36,559
Speaker 3: They don't call the Temptations for nothing.

553
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,519
Speaker 1: Bill Deep, my friend, they went deep.

554
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 3: After the terrorists. They had to do something.

555
00:26:44,759 --> 00:26:45,599
Speaker 1: We see everything.

556
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't.

557
00:26:51,039 --> 00:27:00,319
Speaker 1: Balls, thanks and gentlemen, give it up for the the

558
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,680
sixth grade choir.

559
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,759
Speaker 3: And fucking yum.

560
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Trump and everything. There's some brass in this

561
00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:22,720
there's some brassing the balls. There, you go, that's it. Uh.

562
00:27:22,759 --> 00:27:25,359
We see everything nowadays, Dan, we see it all. We

563
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,400
got to see somebody putting a butt plug in his

564
00:27:29,559 --> 00:27:31,960
pocket at Medusa's downtown, and the.

565
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,039
Speaker 3: Dude from Unsolved Mysteries, we got to hear his voice

566
00:27:34,039 --> 00:27:35,799
for the first time in twenty years. Yeah.

567
00:27:35,839 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: I never watched Unsolved Mysteries.

568
00:27:37,599 --> 00:27:38,519
Speaker 3: I never did either, Bill.

569
00:27:38,599 --> 00:27:40,799
Speaker 1: It was too scary for me. I think I didn't.

570
00:27:40,839 --> 00:27:42,880
I don't like that sort of stuff. I don't like

571
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:43,839
the depressing stuff.

572
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,279
Speaker 3: I my wife watches all that crazy crap like n

573
00:27:47,319 --> 00:27:53,000
cis CSI Dangerous Minds or was it Criminal Minds? I go,

574
00:27:53,079 --> 00:27:54,200
is this something you want to tell me?

575
00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: She's plotting any day now? But this is a uh,

576
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,519
this is an actual news story, and sometimes you have

577
00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:06,319
to go, h do they do it? Well, they do,

578
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,599
It's just that it's local news. It is local news.

579
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,400
A really strange story here.

580
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,039
Speaker 7: Please in Central Pennsylvania are investigating after a creepy encounter

581
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:24,960
caught on doorbell footage. Yes, so, as you heard, they're

582
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:25,920
the masked person.

583
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll play it again in a second. The person

584
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,000
has a paper plate mask over their face and maybe

585
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,680
some other outfit. It sounds like a woman, and I

586
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,839
think I saw her hair nodded on the top of

587
00:28:37,839 --> 00:28:41,599
her head when she bent down. But she's the Box Demon. Clearly,

588
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,319
this is somebody in that. You know when I the

589
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:49,240
Box Demon. Yeah, when I lived over in the neighborhood,

590
00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:52,079
when you taught Jordan how to pitch, Oh, yeah, I

591
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:57,559
was the Guinness Fairy and I would I would no,

592
00:28:57,759 --> 00:29:01,200
I would leave cases of Guinness people's like got my

593
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,519
neighbor's porch, or he'd do the same for me. It

594
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,960
was the Guinness Fairy. This sounds like this is what

595
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,200
it is. But now we get to see everything, and

596
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,319
I guess the people must have been freaked out. How

597
00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:13,519
does it get on the news? Why does it get

598
00:29:13,559 --> 00:29:14,960
on the news? That's what I want to know.

599
00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 3: I want to be famous and I got a video.

600
00:29:18,039 --> 00:29:20,000
People get revenge, so this is the best way to

601
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,559
do it, and the news will pretty much put anything

602
00:29:23,319 --> 00:29:27,839
on it. At this point.

603
00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:29,759
Speaker 1: I'm the Box Dephen.

604
00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 7: Yes, the Box is a demon, calls themselves the Box Demons.

605
00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:38,079
They identified themselves to a homeowner through a ring camera

606
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,880
in North York Borough, York County, yesterday. They wore the

607
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,279
homemade paper plate, mask and left of package on the

608
00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:48,039
porch at least say they have identified the person behind

609
00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:51,039
the bizarre incident and they're telling us now there is

610
00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:52,680
no threat to the public.

611
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:59,799
Speaker 1: But why are you doing great moments in local news?

612
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:00,960
I mean, like, the.

613
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 3: First thing I thought of was, you know those new

614
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,920
like because they advertise more drugs than anything else on

615
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,000
television where people like, they're sad, right, but they put

616
00:30:08,079 --> 00:30:10,880
up the paper place that says they're smiling. They're masking

617
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,640
their sadness. Maybe your antidepressant isn't working and you need

618
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,319
another antidepressant on top of the anti depression.

619
00:30:17,319 --> 00:30:18,799
Speaker 1: Just to go for a walk in some sunside and

620
00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:20,880
put on some classical music and be fine. That's why

621
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:21,920
this music, that's why this.

622
00:30:22,079 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 3: We have a pill called exercise you know.

623
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: What I listened to once in a while on that

624
00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:29,839
actually makes me smile on serious XM as because I

625
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,640
have the app. You get other stations, and I have

626
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,960
one called Chill Pill, the Chill Pill Station.

627
00:30:35,799 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 3: Serious ExM Chill Pill.

628
00:30:37,599 --> 00:30:40,119
Speaker 1: It's the chill Pill Station. It's all serious XM chill.

629
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,440
It's all eighties. Oh okay, it's like eighties chill pill.

630
00:30:43,599 --> 00:30:46,759
So don't worry, be happy. It's like, yeah, maybe, but

631
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:49,759
more like the ballads. It's like a soft rock station.

632
00:30:50,039 --> 00:30:52,720
Oh it's fine, and make you happy. You know the words,

633
00:30:52,759 --> 00:30:55,039
you sing along. If that's your generation, there you go.

634
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 3: You know what's amazing is that they have capitalized off

635
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,359
the laziness of America. I mean, I think the biggest

636
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,319
cottage industry in America is laziness. Think about this, okay,

637
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,680
think about why Wegmans is so awesome because they basically

638
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,599
make everything for you. You don't have to think about it.

639
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,160
You just go to Wegmans and get it right. These pills,

640
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,759
these medications, you don't have to exercise. Just take a

641
00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:16,200
stupid pill and you don't feel better.

642
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,559
Speaker 1: Just saw a heads dude, think about it. To not

643
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,480
read the headlines. It's funny that you say that. I

644
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:26,759
just read the headline that said, uh ozembic workouts or

645
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,200
gyms are now catering to a new style of workout.

646
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,839
But they said, like the ozembic workout, so.

647
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:33,759
Speaker 3: They pull up your belly.

648
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: But don't fucking know, I just I only saw the

649
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:42,480
headline going through And it's interesting to me because I

650
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,079
I went home tonight and I make stuff right. So

651
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,160
I had made meatballs, and I froze the meatballs. I

652
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,920
thaw the meatballs out during the day, threw them in

653
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,680
with some sauce, made pasta, and that was dinner. But

654
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,160
I could go buy the meatballs very easily. I could

655
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,200
buy frozen meatballs ready, and I don't I like making them.

656
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,160
There's something satisfying to me about.

657
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,119
Speaker 3: So much better when you make them.

658
00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:07,559
Speaker 1: I don't even know if it tastes better. I'm a

659
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,559
terrible cook. I'll admit that I follow the recipe sort

660
00:32:11,559 --> 00:32:13,559
of kind of. I don't think I have the right

661
00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:15,720
mention Chef boy O Myer, I don't think I have

662
00:32:15,839 --> 00:32:21,480
the right metric fits Dan, it's a teaspoon up. So

663
00:32:21,559 --> 00:32:23,640
I just I'm like trying to guess and stuff.

664
00:32:23,839 --> 00:32:26,319
Speaker 3: But whatever your emerald Agasi, damn.

665
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: Emerald, Emerald never mind, uh so, but I like doing that,

666
00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:35,079
so I hear what you're saying. But like we do

667
00:32:35,119 --> 00:32:37,680
make it easy. Yeah, I have gone into Wegmans and

668
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,440
bought their full holiday meals sometimes.

669
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,119
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Thanksgivving. You could just go to or you

670
00:32:43,119 --> 00:32:44,960
could go to Cracker Barrel. Man, I'm waiting for a

671
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,640
cracker Burl Thanksgiving. But like, like the doorbell cam with

672
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,119
the news. Yeah, hey, just send us your doorbell. Can't

673
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,799
put it, We don't care. We got a phill thirty

674
00:32:53,839 --> 00:32:55,599
minutes set. It's the Channel thirteen.

675
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: It's odd.

676
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,559
Speaker 3: It sounds more like a Channel eight thing. Although they've

677
00:32:58,599 --> 00:32:59,960
up their game the last ten years.

678
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:00,799
Speaker 1: Yeah they have.

679
00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:04,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm just taking like laziness sells.

680
00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:08,039
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you something else. Okay, Now, now I

681
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:10,480
have to be very careful how I talk about this,

682
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:16,559
but I think that sometimes the job should be to

683
00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:19,680
report the news, not scare us, like this thing, the

684
00:33:19,799 --> 00:33:23,240
rise of a weird you know, viral urban legend, the

685
00:33:23,319 --> 00:33:26,559
paper plate face whatever, like it's just somebody. I mean,

686
00:33:27,079 --> 00:33:28,799
here's what all I can think of as I watch

687
00:33:28,839 --> 00:33:32,519
this story is imagine being the cop that has to

688
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,160
write this up. They had to go out, they got

689
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,880
to do the paper. You've got to report the paper

690
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,960
plate mask person. And you wonder why cops drink.

691
00:33:43,119 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, Junior, Hey, Junior, we got a good one

692
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,000
for you. We're gonna send you down.

693
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:47,359
Speaker 1: The fair part.

694
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 3: Have you figured out the box demon?

695
00:33:49,119 --> 00:33:52,359
Speaker 1: We got a paper plate whispering I'm the box demon.

696
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:53,440
You're on that one.

697
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: Make you make sure you bring Spocky the canine dog. Yes,

698
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,480
it's it, and make sure you give them treats after

699
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:04,240
he likes that. It's a good one for you to

700
00:34:04,279 --> 00:34:04,920
warm up on it.

701
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,679
Speaker 1: It's terrible. It's terrible. But we see too much and

702
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:09,400
we have too much.

703
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 3: Yeah you know, oh yeah, I mean you look at

704
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,159
the world burning on the news and you realize, I'm

705
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:18,159
an American. Life is so we have the luxury of

706
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,679
caring or not caring, complaining or not caring.

707
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: We make shit up, we have wars up. But we

708
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,039
were talking about being lazy, and sometimes I wonder if

709
00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:34,039
the news doesn't necessarily help. No, And I'm gonna give

710
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:38,320
you like this story that is more in our area.

711
00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:41,440
It's one that could be anywhere, but it happened in

712
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,679
our area and it's focused in our area, and it

713
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,719
had to do with a school teacher. I'll leave it

714
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,960
at that. And I watched the story, and I'm familiar

715
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,639
with some of the participants in the story, and I

716
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,519
have my opinion on things as to what it is. Well,

717
00:34:58,679 --> 00:35:01,920
I'm perusing stuff today and I see they went back

718
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,880
out and now they're mad and they're talking to people

719
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:10,000
at the school because the person is either out on

720
00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:14,280
bail or what. I don't know what? And I'm going,

721
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,239
why are you? Why are you fanning the flames of this?

722
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,519
Why are you fanning the flames of this? Believe me,

723
00:35:20,559 --> 00:35:23,960
if there's something inappropriate that went on involving an adult

724
00:35:24,679 --> 00:35:27,880
and someone who is not an adult, that person's being

725
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,880
watched all the fucking time, all the time, and that's

726
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,440
the thing. So but all you're doing is family. Well,

727
00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:36,360
I'd like to know why this is?

728
00:35:36,519 --> 00:35:36,599
Speaker 5: What?

729
00:35:36,679 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 1: Who are you that you get to fucking demand anything?

730
00:35:40,119 --> 00:35:43,599
You pinhead, go home and fucking make a meat ball

731
00:35:43,639 --> 00:35:44,280
and shut up.

732
00:35:44,519 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 3: Hi, Karen, you know what I'm saying.

733
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: I go, God, it's like you're toothless, you have no bite.

734
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,360
Who cares? But why is? But I don't blame that person.

735
00:35:54,639 --> 00:35:56,760
Somebody stuck a camera in your face and asked you

736
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,800
a question about a story to fan flames of what?

737
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,199
And it bothers me because it's not right and it's wrong.

738
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,920
It's wrong. It's the fucking media is wrong when they

739
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:06,280
do that.

740
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 3: I agree with you. You ever see the Leprechaun story, which

741
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,760
which keep Peel eventually made the Pegasus story. Just if

742
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,880
folks just go to YouTube and just type it like

743
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,280
leprechad news story, but the idea being like, hey, we're

744
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,079
just gonna go make something up and see how people

745
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:21,159
react with it. We stick a camera in their face. Yeah,

746
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,800
oh yeah, yeah, I.

747
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 1: Saw thee Yeah, it's just it's just yeah, I got

748
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,119
a problem with like, look, I've done it too. I

749
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:34,239
stood outside uh polling places and asked them how they

750
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,639
voted for proposition nine sixty five. When I was on

751
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,480
that station, and there was one going, well, you know

752
00:36:40,639 --> 00:36:41,920
they do it in the Bible and.

753
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 4: Right.

754
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: Because people don't want if to sound stupid, that's part

755
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,079
of the problem. But when you've got a hot it

756
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,800
like that's harmless, right, it's harmless. Who's getting hurt in

757
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,079
a proposition that doesn't exist. It's kind of showing the

758
00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:58,159
ignorance of people. But it's not. It's showing how we are.

759
00:36:58,639 --> 00:37:02,719
We are ashamed to say I don't know the best.

760
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,360
Was ashamed to say that.

761
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 3: Hey, what do you prefer you Affordable Care Act or Obamacare?

762
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,000
You know, people were like, I don't care for Obamacare.

763
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,800
Now the Affordable carere Act I can get behind because

764
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,039
I can afford it. When they were the same thing,

765
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,440
I know, right, We would ask people that's questions.

766
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: We did well here?

767
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:26,199
Speaker 3: Who's the vice president Dick Chady? But you're right, you're right,

768
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,800
But but we all want to feel like an authority.

769
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,079
Speaker 1: But we do, but we also don't want to look dumb.

770
00:37:31,519 --> 00:37:37,119
So the nine to six five, the Obamacare, the uh whatever. Yeah,

771
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,119
I get it that people will answer that. But to me,

772
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,760
this is a little bit on the news to go.

773
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,760
We're gonna fan the flames of what because what do

774
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,880
we want people coming down with you know, torches and

775
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,840
running somebody out of town happen? And there is no

776
00:37:56,039 --> 00:37:59,000
innocent until proven guilty. And what if this turns around?

777
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,199
And what if this story turns out to not be true?

778
00:38:01,559 --> 00:38:03,639
And then what right? And then what are you going

779
00:38:03,679 --> 00:38:05,760
to turn around and apologize? Are you going to go

780
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,039
back and say I'm sorry, we got it wrong, because

781
00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:11,360
you know what that is? That's bullying by your own definition.

782
00:38:11,599 --> 00:38:15,039
I've seen the definitions that would be bullying somebody by

783
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:18,079
saying I want to know. You don't need to know anything.

784
00:38:18,119 --> 00:38:18,920
You know what you need to know?

785
00:38:19,079 --> 00:38:22,559
Speaker 3: Go raise your kids? Yeah, just behind your business, be

786
00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:24,920
a good person, pay your taxes, be a good person.

787
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: Yeah right, pay your tax contributor to society, but be

788
00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:31,119
a good person, right and contribute to the society. If

789
00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:32,599
they stick a camera in your face, Goo, that's an

790
00:38:32,679 --> 00:38:36,159
unfortunate thing. And I'm so happy that whatever the incident is,

791
00:38:36,199 --> 00:38:39,440
I hope a boy clears up in all parties get

792
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,599
the justice they deserve. I'd love to see somebody say that,

793
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,000
but that's not getting on the news. It's the I

794
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:52,519
think I needs to know. That's I'm sorry. You know

795
00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:53,639
exactly what I would.

796
00:38:53,519 --> 00:38:54,599
Speaker 3: Love for somebody to come up to me with a

797
00:38:54,639 --> 00:38:56,000
camera like that. I would give them like a ten

798
00:38:56,039 --> 00:38:58,599
minute dissertation. I'll just make stuff up, yeah, you know,

799
00:38:58,639 --> 00:39:00,760
and see how ridiculous would be and see what they

800
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:01,400
put on the news.

801
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: What's the person's name again? Oh?

802
00:39:03,519 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 3: I knew his brother. Here's here's the flip side. Here's

803
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,400
the flip side. When they interview you and they ask

804
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,360
you and you actually give him an intelligent answer and

805
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,280
they cut it down to like four seconds. Here's an example.

806
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,519
One time I was at Matthew's grill. Yes, yeah, okay,

807
00:39:18,679 --> 00:39:21,199
I was down there having lunch one day and Channel

808
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,440
ten walks in the bills had had signed to.

809
00:39:23,559 --> 00:39:27,679
Speaker 1: O talking about lazy right across the street, right it's.

810
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 3: A sports so I'm not gonna name the reporter's name.

811
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,440
He's not a reporter anymore. Becomes over, So you work

812
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,840
at CMF, don't you. I'm like yeah, And I told

813
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,199
I was at that time the sports guy on our station,

814
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,639
our show, right, and they go, what are your thoughts

815
00:39:41,679 --> 00:39:43,239
on t O? And I gave him like ten minutes

816
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,079
worth the mansters I used to do a sports talk show.

817
00:39:45,199 --> 00:39:47,199
I was pretty you know, and they cut it down

818
00:39:47,199 --> 00:39:50,400
to like four seconds. He was as Dan BURRELLO Bill's fan,

819
00:39:50,599 --> 00:39:53,320
and then Tommy went off. Tommy went off the next

820
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,039
morning prow he's a Sponge inter actor. I'm like, well,

821
00:39:56,039 --> 00:39:58,360
thank you, Tommy down take too much, Crannon Brown, what's tell?

822
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,320
But like yeah, it's like wait, I I gave you

823
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,880
like ten minutes of my time, and I know you

824
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,639
have to cut it down, but that's all you gave, right.

825
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,519
Speaker 1: But I would say for everybody when in those situations,

826
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,039
and it's a skill you got to learn to talk

827
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:11,840
sound bite, which I did.

828
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,119
Speaker 3: And ten minutes, well, they interviewed me for ten minutes.

829
00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:17,079
They asked me ten minutes worth a questions. It's not

830
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:19,599
like I sit there like rolled up my sleeves and

831
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:25,039
gave a dissertation. I was like doing the weather. Well, anyway,

832
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,440
it'll be like when you talk to me about the

833
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,599
bills on this podcast. Uh huh, okay, so I can

834
00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:30,159
see that side.

835
00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 1: You're right, do I go into this next drange thing?

836
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,800
I just have such a problem with that, dude, I yes,

837
00:40:39,079 --> 00:40:39,960
really get upset.

838
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,599
Speaker 3: It's called forced the pitsions. It's called begging the question.

839
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,559
Speaker 1: Well, yes, and I leading the way. I guess I

840
00:40:45,559 --> 00:40:47,559
don't like it in this case because again I'm a

841
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:50,000
little more familiar with some things, and I really scratched

842
00:40:50,039 --> 00:40:53,599
my head as to the accuracy of the accusations. However,

843
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,079
I'm not I won't. I don't want to say anything

844
00:40:56,159 --> 00:40:58,639
or paint anything. But I really feel like when you

845
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,199
go back into a thing and go, hey, this has

846
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,280
been a what are you doing?

847
00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 3: Right?

848
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Because don't tell me that. Everybody

849
00:41:06,519 --> 00:41:09,800
who want needs to know knows they know, and you're

850
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,159
not telling me that even I mean, you know, every

851
00:41:13,159 --> 00:41:17,119
neighborhood's got a Gladys. She's sitting there. Oh yeah, I

852
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:18,719
don't know what they called her day. It used to

853
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,760
be Gladys, then it became Gale. Oh, I know what

854
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,599
it is. It's Karen, Karen, she right, she's sitting there.

855
00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:27,519
You don't think that somebody's gonna report every move this

856
00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:30,159
person's making. We need to go and fam the flames

857
00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:34,599
of fear and anger and hold our kids tighter and and.

858
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 3: Do what right I mean. I remember when I was

859
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,960
at Fisher, we talked about this thing called infotainment, and

860
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,800
we brought in a sixty minutes reporter who laughed off

861
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,920
the idea of infotainment like she was above it, Like

862
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,800
how could you say this? Doctor Lopicaro was right, because

863
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,119
that's where we're at now in the infotainment industry. What

864
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,760
happens is is that now Rochester, where the feeder markets

865
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,679
where you came out of school and you went to work,

866
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,119
we're like like a Fort Wayne, Indiana, or Eerie or Elmira.

867
00:42:01,559 --> 00:42:03,960
Now they're coming straight to Rochester or they're going like

868
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,719
now because now like there's just there's too many kids.

869
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,599
Nobody pays pays enough for the jobs. There's a lot

870
00:42:09,679 --> 00:42:12,480
more turnover. So now you those experienced people like the

871
00:42:12,519 --> 00:42:14,800
Doug Emwliges and the don Al Harts, they're not around

872
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,400
anymore to guide these kids. So now it's kids leading

873
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,079
kids on the news, or what do we do? We

874
00:42:19,159 --> 00:42:21,079
just do what we do on social media, only we

875
00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:23,360
put it on the freaking news. And there's no news

876
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,679
director there or executive producer to say, hold on a second,

877
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,199
let's look at this ethically. They don't do that anymore. Now,

878
00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:35,239
just put it on the freaking news. Yeah, I'm sorry,

879
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,159
news friends, you know it's true.

880
00:42:38,199 --> 00:42:39,639
Speaker 1: I don't want to have them around them too hard.

881
00:42:39,679 --> 00:42:42,639
I just thought this one thing, there's too why well?

882
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,239
I think also, we don't have enough to fill go

883
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,079
out and follow up on this story. And it's not

884
00:42:49,199 --> 00:42:52,159
bad to follow up on the story. But if there's

885
00:42:52,199 --> 00:42:54,480
really nothing there, is it right to put it on

886
00:42:54,639 --> 00:42:57,920
where you're just fanning the flames of what could turn

887
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,199
out to be a big nothing burger. Yeah, I don't know.

888
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,760
We'll take a moment. The Durin story. This is the

889
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:09,840
most bizarre, weird, strange story I've ever heard or heard

890
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,559
in a while. It is almost like a Stephen King novel. Okay, yeah, wow,

891
00:43:14,599 --> 00:43:17,440
and yeah, and it's real. It's not a show shank story.

892
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,559
It's like an it's story. It's an it's story. Oh,

893
00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:22,679
I wouldn't say it more like misery.

894
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh gosh, because that could actually happen. Wow,

895
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:27,519
because it really doesn't.

896
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

897
00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 3: Shot Shank really doesn't happen.

898
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: Now, really, Shawshank, it's not You're not tunneling your way

899
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,280
out of prison too easily. Although a couple of guys

900
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:36,719
did it up.

901
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 3: North Family guy that actually did like actually ask that

902
00:43:39,039 --> 00:43:44,079
question what they pretend to have Tim Robbins and Margaret

903
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:47,239
Freeman like doing a panel huh and Peter Griffith's so,

904
00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:50,360
how are you able to put the post of Raquel

905
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,000
well so taut against the hole in the wall from

906
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,880
inside the hole? Nobody ever explained that. That's why I

907
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,719
hate the movie because you couldn't explain that part, like,

908
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,280
because everybody who's ever watched its like, well, how did

909
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,000
he escape? Wow?

910
00:44:03,639 --> 00:44:04,079
Speaker 1: I think he?

911
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, like not to how do you escape? How

912
00:44:06,599 --> 00:44:08,400
did they not figure it out? And how did how

913
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,039
was the poster so tight against the wall They didn't

914
00:44:11,039 --> 00:44:12,480
realize there was a hole behind probably.

915
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,199
Speaker 1: Never even looked and those walls are all wobbly and old,

916
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,480
and I don't know ruin the whole movie, uh bTB

917
00:44:18,599 --> 00:44:20,599
would fire Pizza and grill in the mallik Rease Ridge.

918
00:44:20,639 --> 00:44:21,519
I know you were there.

919
00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 3: Feah with Boo Kevin apparently.

920
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 1: Did you have I'll ask, did you have fish fry? No?

921
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 3: I did not, okay, but they have a great fish fry.

922
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:31,639
Speaker 1: They have a great fish fries.

923
00:44:31,679 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 3: Like the fish fry that like the fish is bigger

924
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,719
than the plate. Yes, that's what they have at bTB.

925
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: And I like the chips, but the fries are just

926
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,480
as good if you want to get that.

927
00:44:40,119 --> 00:44:41,599
Speaker 3: Uh, well in England's fish and chips.

928
00:44:41,679 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 1: F Yes, it is fish and chips, that is true.

929
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,480
Thank you get the malted vinegar on your frying stuff.

930
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,599
But they have some unbelievable specials that they have unveiled.

931
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,639
One of the spring specials are the crab ragoon Oh

932
00:44:55,679 --> 00:44:59,719
mozzarella sticks. Oh my gosh, yeah, crab ragoon mozzarella sticks.

933
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,400
They are they look so good. I have not had them,

934
00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:05,800
but they're made with real crab and they're all made

935
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:06,239
in house.

936
00:45:06,159 --> 00:45:07,159
Speaker 3: Not that imitation crab.

937
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: No. And it's a good sweet chili dipping sauce. I'm

938
00:45:11,039 --> 00:45:14,039
telling you you will love this. And I haven't had it,

939
00:45:14,119 --> 00:45:16,920
but I just know I'm willing to bet. I'm willing

940
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:25,159
to bet I don't know, paycheck on it. Sure is he?

941
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 3: I don't know. Oh wait, we gotta look that up.

942
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 1: Yeah I think he is.

943
00:45:28,199 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he died.

944
00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:31,079
Speaker 1: Mister food. Yeah, yeah, mister food.

945
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:32,599
Speaker 3: I used to think he should. He was based in Buffalo,

946
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,840
he was syndicated, Yeah he was. But he was su

947
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,719
for telethon, so I thought he was. He was legit.

948
00:45:38,639 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: I didn't know. Uh yeah, this is so, but get

949
00:45:42,639 --> 00:45:47,280
go follow them on Facebook bTB because normally I would

950
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,639
say food doesn't photograph. Well, you know when you used

951
00:45:50,639 --> 00:45:53,519
to watch commercials and things. I had a friend or

952
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,519
somebody I knew who's sister got in trouble for putting

953
00:45:57,559 --> 00:46:00,280
marbles in the bottom of a souper bowl to make

954
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,920
it look chunkier so the other pieces stood up higher.

955
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

956
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's tricks that did. Yeah, you're not. This is unbelievable.

957
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,519
The food dis looks great as it is, and I

958
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have had pretty much everything on the menu and it is.

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Speaker 3: I knew something was.

976
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 8: Wrong when a little pretty white girl ran into a

977
00:47:19,519 --> 00:47:20,480
black man's arms.

978
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, give it away, Yeah, give away.

979
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 8: My neighbor does being tested girls because we see is

980
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:33,400
doing every day. But we getting blue in that girl.

981
00:47:33,519 --> 00:47:35,400
But yeahs to get out.

982
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:41,159
Speaker 1: Didn't give it away. Give give away, give away, give him,

983
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:46,440
give away there, give it away, Yeah, give away.

984
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,639
Speaker 8: My neighbor dot being tested girls, does we see is

985
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,199
doing day every day ribs with this dude.

986
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,599
Speaker 1: But we can have a clue in that girl. When

987
00:47:56,679 --> 00:47:57,800
your nat out, she.

988
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 3: Said, please to get out, open the door. We can't

989
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,719
get in that way. A body can't get through over

990
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,559
the door, only your head. So we kicked them out

991
00:48:07,559 --> 00:48:09,159
of and she comes out.

992
00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 8: And she says, get some old girls up in that

993
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,679
house called down one one and he called him. Something

994
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,840
was home when a little pretty white girl ran into

995
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:18,400
a black man.

996
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: This was to McDonald's.

997
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,519
Speaker 3: I don't know, I remember give away. My neighbor did

998
00:48:23,559 --> 00:48:24,360
me tests?

999
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: Do we see this door.

1000
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 8: Every days with this dude, But we didn't have a clue.

1001
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,039
Speaker 3: And that girl looking in that house, she said, please

1002
00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:34,920
don't get out.

1003
00:48:35,519 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: Didn't give a give away.

1004
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 3: This was after this was This was after how'd your kids?

1005
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:46,440
How'd your wife?

1006
00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:47,119
Speaker 1: How'd your kids?

1007
00:48:47,199 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 3: How'd your wife?

1008
00:48:48,519 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: This was a very strange scene like this guy just

1009
00:48:52,039 --> 00:48:55,280
said my neighbor had big testicles. We ate we really

1010
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,480
lived with this dude. We have clue right in Cleveland,

1011
00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:02,599
down in the city, right proper and in a house

1012
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:07,840
you wouldn't know working class neighborhood, probably very friendly, happy people,

1013
00:49:08,039 --> 00:49:11,519
all this stuff. I had no idea he was having

1014
00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:12,920
women held hostage.

1015
00:49:13,039 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 3: Zero yeah, zero, And it was like, whoa, Just think

1016
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,639
of your neighbor. Think they've got something going on.

1017
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:23,119
Speaker 1: I always think that somewhere something's happening right now that

1018
00:49:23,199 --> 00:49:26,199
we're not going to know about for a while. Yes,

1019
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,480
you know, unfortunately, and one of those stories I haven't

1020
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:30,960
to have right here.

1021
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,079
Speaker 3: So how long ago did this happen?

1022
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:39,039
Speaker 1: This just happened? Okay, And I'll give you my I

1023
00:49:39,199 --> 00:49:41,320
try to rewrite this story so they're a little more

1024
00:49:41,559 --> 00:49:46,679
condensedly going into big detail. But this is a shocking

1025
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,199
case of prolonged abuse. A thirty two year old man

1026
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:56,119
escaped chapter Okay, dude, thirty two year old man escaped

1027
00:49:56,159 --> 00:50:01,239
his captor. Well, I'm assuming it's also a dude, by

1028
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,800
setting fire to the house where he had been imprisoned

1029
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:10,119
for over twenty years. I know, I know, it makes

1030
00:50:10,159 --> 00:50:12,800
you well, what do you instantly do? I instantly go,

1031
00:50:13,559 --> 00:50:14,880
what is the mental capacity?

1032
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:17,079
Speaker 3: Brainwashed? Was he on drugs?

1033
00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: I don't know?

1034
00:50:18,119 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 3: Was he reliant upon drugs as a child.

1035
00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 1: A neighbor's daughter unknowingly waved at him through a window,

1036
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,519
thinking he was just another kid. The victim, the thirty

1037
00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:33,400
two year old man who weighed ready for this only

1038
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:40,639
what would be an absolutely absurd weight for a thirty

1039
00:50:40,679 --> 00:50:43,320
two year old man, away absurd and not going north,

1040
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:51,079
Let's go south sixty eight pounds, sixty eight pounds upon rescue,

1041
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:55,639
I still alive, had been starved. His step mother, Kimberly Sullivan,

1042
00:50:56,039 --> 00:50:58,960
has been arrested in charge with multiple crimes in the case.

1043
00:51:00,599 --> 00:51:01,599
Yeah was his stepmother.

1044
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:03,039
Speaker 3: Wow.

1045
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,679
Speaker 1: The case has been described as something out of a

1046
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,559
horror movie, revealing a decades long nightmare that went unnoticed

1047
00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:13,440
despite the signs. So from what I could gather, and

1048
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,559
I don't think there was news audio with this, this

1049
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:21,000
woman was almost lived like a hoarder. But how there's

1050
00:51:21,079 --> 00:51:24,480
no clear indication, like did she marry his dad? The

1051
00:51:24,599 --> 00:51:27,559
dad died, and so now she had the kid. Where's

1052
00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:32,519
the kid's mother, right, because that's his stepmother. He didn't,

1053
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,199
you know, he didn't hatch onto the planet, so there

1054
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,039
were other humans in his life. But whatever happened, he

1055
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,119
had him, and she would not feed him. He sometimes

1056
00:51:42,119 --> 00:51:44,760
would drink water out of the toilet bowl to stay alive.

1057
00:51:45,199 --> 00:51:48,320
He did this and this supposedly went on for over

1058
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,000
twenty years where and then what he did was he

1059
00:51:52,119 --> 00:51:56,039
set fire. He was like living in a closet basically

1060
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,639
that's what she had, and he lit fire to the closet.

1061
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,599
Imagine me, held capp it for twenty.

1062
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,599
Speaker 3: Years and somehow got out and escaped.

1063
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, so the fireman come in, okay, and this

1064
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,000
guy didn't he was trying keepit suicide away. No, I

1065
00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:14,679
think he was. He was trying to get rescued because

1066
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,960
he just like at some point there was a a

1067
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:18,679
I don't know why I took this long for a

1068
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,639
breaking point, but he lit fire. So the fireman come

1069
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,360
and think, if I die, I die. If they saved me, great,

1070
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,639
either way, I'm out of here, right, either way, I'm

1071
00:52:27,639 --> 00:52:28,559
out of this situation.

1072
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,159
Speaker 3: Right was sort of the My goodness, what was she

1073
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,320
giving him that his mental state was not? I have

1074
00:52:33,519 --> 00:52:36,760
no idea, Like I mean, I mean, like you know

1075
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,159
the story about Eminem, but like lunch Housings, his mother

1076
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,639
kept making him sicker on purpose so she get attention

1077
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,920
that type of situation. But like again, like the kids

1078
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,920
in the house, I'm not saying it's much houses because

1079
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,599
the kid like she's obviously not praading this kid. I

1080
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,199
don't know what years if he's locked in the house, Well,

1081
00:52:52,199 --> 00:52:53,239
you got it out there.

1082
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,559
Speaker 1: It's an invisible prison, right, It's a visible prison, meaning

1083
00:52:56,639 --> 00:52:58,719
that we don't see it as a prison. We know

1084
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,639
what a prison looks like. We don't know that this

1085
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:01,239
is happening.

1086
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 3: He doesn't know that it's a prisoner.

1087
00:53:02,519 --> 00:53:06,639
Speaker 1: Well I don't. I go how do cases like this

1088
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,599
go undetected for decades in America?

1089
00:53:09,679 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 3: Too?

1090
00:53:10,159 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, even when neighbors in community are around and people

1091
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,559
are looking, and you know, you catch glimpses of potential victim,

1092
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:21,079
you really don't know. And boy, I want to take

1093
00:53:21,159 --> 00:53:26,000
this moment to say, how many people, maybe it was

1094
00:53:26,079 --> 00:53:30,760
somebody listening right now, have been kerned about what somebody

1095
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,960
else thought today, has been concerned about how they think.

1096
00:53:35,039 --> 00:53:39,400
I look what I'm wearing, where I'm This should show

1097
00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:42,320
show you that we are so caught up in ourselves

1098
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,760
we don't notice a lot of stuff. We don't notice

1099
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:45,360
a lot of stuff.

1100
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:46,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, we are, you know.

1101
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 1: I mean I started out by saying, and you were

1102
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,360
you were kind of like going, oh that's a little strange,

1103
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,519
a little weird, right, that I would look at the

1104
00:53:53,679 --> 00:53:57,079
cars driving past me coming down over a four lane

1105
00:53:57,159 --> 00:53:58,639
road that would have to go right in front of

1106
00:53:58,679 --> 00:54:00,880
my windshield so I can see, and I would try

1107
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,719
to guess the mood in the car because we don't

1108
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:03,480
pay attention to that.

1109
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,159
Speaker 3: We're with ourselves. Yes, yes, by the way, it's not

1110
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,039
it's not a selfish thing. It's not how it is.

1111
00:54:09,079 --> 00:54:11,639
Speaker 1: And by the way, you're allowed to be selfish. Sometimes

1112
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,320
being selfish is a good thing. It's an absolutely good thing.

1113
00:54:14,679 --> 00:54:16,960
Matter of fact, I wish to people, fucking no, I

1114
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,000
don't want to say that, be a little a little

1115
00:54:20,079 --> 00:54:25,760
more selfish and not not talk about things. I mean, God,

1116
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,000
you gotta think the psychological social factors that contribute to

1117
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,559
people dismissing or rationalizing red flax. Right, you just go

1118
00:54:35,679 --> 00:54:40,679
AS's the crazy lady. Though the house was dilapidated. I'll

1119
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:41,000
say that.

1120
00:54:41,199 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 3: I think people like when they see something like that,

1121
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,679
they don't want to look at it because it reminds

1122
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,440
them there's either guilt or it's just this. It's just

1123
00:54:49,519 --> 00:54:52,000
hard to look at. It's disgusting. You want to see that.

1124
00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:53,639
You don't want to smell, They want to be round that.

1125
00:54:53,679 --> 00:54:55,079
You just want to avoid that it's an.

1126
00:54:55,039 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: Ice or well, they're like the crazy people.

1127
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 3: Right, that's the house that has the story. He's in

1128
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:00,840
the neighborhood.

1129
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 1: There's a house by the house upon the hill.

1130
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,199
Speaker 3: You don't want to go over there, billy, you don't

1131
00:55:05,199 --> 00:55:06,719
want to walk by. There's a woman in there who

1132
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,000
will snatch you up lo and behold. We found out

1133
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:09,599
it was true.

1134
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:16,159
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, the victim reportedly performed yard work outside at times,

1135
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,159
and you go, how does this? Nobody saw it, fail

1136
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,079
to intervene. But again, if you're driving down the road

1137
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,239
you see somebody working in the yard, and if it's

1138
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,760
an older guy or somebody in their twenties, people don't

1139
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,039
always have so skinny. They don't.

1140
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,079
Speaker 3: People just see like if it appears, sometimes it's called

1141
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,360
so and so. Oh okay, So nobody asked questions like

1142
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,760
remember the whole Bernie Madoff scam. Yes, okay. So Malcolm Gladwell,

1143
00:55:42,039 --> 00:55:45,880
who's a well known author, right, he talked about how

1144
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,800
the Bernie Madoff scam. There were other investors who looked

1145
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:54,920
at Bernie Madoff's investments and said to themselves, huh, how

1146
00:55:55,039 --> 00:55:58,079
is he pulling this off? This doesn't make any sense.

1147
00:55:59,159 --> 00:56:00,880
But you know what he's of money, so screw it,

1148
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,920
let's try the same thing. They didn't even I mean,

1149
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,639
the red flag went off in their head and they

1150
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,880
didn't bother to really try it and investigate, and then

1151
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,360
they realized it was a Ponzi scheme. When he got

1152
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,960
what he what, he basically turned himself in, right. And

1153
00:56:14,159 --> 00:56:16,679
so I think sometimes we don't ask questions because either

1154
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,519
we don't want to know, or we just assume, well,

1155
00:56:18,639 --> 00:56:21,760
just how it's who they are. We assume everything is normal, yes,

1156
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,079
and we are we We just go about our lives

1157
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:25,719
because we got enough on our plates.

1158
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,760
Speaker 1: I think I found I got a wife at home.

1159
00:56:29,159 --> 00:56:32,119
Now this is this happened in Waterbury, Connecticut, which is

1160
00:56:32,159 --> 00:56:33,039
a pretty nice area.

1161
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,079
Speaker 3: Here we go, well, this next story sounds like the

1162
00:56:35,119 --> 00:56:36,480
plot out of a horror movie.

1163
00:56:36,559 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 6: And man held against his will in a home in

1164
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,079
Connecticut for over twenty years.

1165
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,639
Speaker 9: Yeah, he is now finally free after spending nearly.

1166
00:56:44,599 --> 00:56:47,639
Speaker 1: Wouldn't instantly you go, what a pussy.

1167
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,760
Speaker 3: You? Especially when you find out the man right, But

1168
00:56:53,639 --> 00:56:56,920
it's almost like I think it sounds like some people

1169
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:57,800
pay for that experience.

1170
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: He was, you know, just starved and brainwauditioned and all

1171
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:03,119
that for you.

1172
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,599
Speaker 9: His entire life locked in a room with little food

1173
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,599
and almost no contact with the outside world.

1174
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 3: Police rest him from a home in Waterbury, Connecticut last month.

1175
00:57:13,039 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: The house has no windows upstairs. They're all plywood from

1176
00:57:19,519 --> 00:57:22,239
the inside. Usually you see plywood on the outside of

1177
00:57:22,239 --> 00:57:24,159
the windows. This is from the inside of the house

1178
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,159
the plywood, So I don't know.

1179
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:26,719
Speaker 3: They say.

1180
00:57:26,719 --> 00:57:29,719
Speaker 6: The thirty two year old man weighed just seventy pounds

1181
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,119
when they discovered him pay.

1182
00:57:31,559 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 9: In the room this afternoon. His stepmother is now facing

1183
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:37,639
charges for holding him captive. I would us report of

1184
00:57:37,679 --> 00:57:40,559
Marcus Solos joins us now live from Waterbury with much

1185
00:57:40,599 --> 00:57:42,639
more on this very disturbing Marcus.

1186
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,119
Speaker 1: They sent the rookie out for this. No, this is

1187
00:57:45,159 --> 00:57:47,760
a veteran looking guy, is it. Yeah, you can't see it.

1188
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,239
I should have put it up on the screen, but uh, yeah,

1189
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,480
it's a veteran looking guy. And man, this house looks

1190
00:57:52,519 --> 00:57:55,880
like a nice older house, but it is run down

1191
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:56,519
and neglected.

1192
00:57:57,679 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 3: Well listen, David.

1193
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,599
Speaker 6: An investigation is underway by the school district by Children's

1194
00:58:01,599 --> 00:58:05,000
Services to see how this child disappeared from their radar

1195
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:06,320
twenty years ago.

1196
00:58:06,519 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 3: Today.

1197
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 6: He is an adult and has been living in thousand

1198
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,320
and what police describe her conditions worse than a jail cell.

1199
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,760
Kimberly Sullivan posted bail today, but she is the one

1200
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,039
now facing a lifetime of confinement. The fifty six year

1201
00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:22,280
old is accused of keeping her steps on locked in

1202
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,199
a room with little food and no medical care for

1203
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:26,360
two decades.

1204
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: This is the worst treatment of humanity that I've ever witnessed.

1205
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 6: Today investigators were back on the block of the alleged

1206
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,480
House of horrors, which remains boarded up. Last month of

1207
00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:39,239
victim deliberately started a fire on the second floor in

1208
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:40,960
a successful bid to be freed.

1209
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:42,239
Speaker 3: The thirty two year.

1210
00:58:42,159 --> 00:58:45,599
Speaker 6: Old, who weighed just sixty eight pounds, shocked first responders

1211
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,639
telling them about his years in captivity, locked in an

1212
00:58:48,679 --> 00:58:51,840
eight foot by nine foot room virtually twenty four hours

1213
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:52,320
a day.

1214
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:53,239
Speaker 1: Throughout the years.

1215
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 7: It appeared that the locks increased in security levels as

1216
00:58:59,199 --> 00:59:03,079
time progressed, and obviously he became colder and maybe a

1217
00:59:03,119 --> 00:59:03,880
little bit stronger.

1218
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:09,719
Speaker 6: Yesterday, police charged Sullivan with assault. The victim told police

1219
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,039
as a boy, he make classmates for food and eight

1220
00:59:12,119 --> 00:59:14,360
items out of the garbage. In two thousand and five,

1221
00:59:14,679 --> 00:59:18,199
Dulous Children's Services conducted a welfare check when the victim

1222
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,079
was eleven and it stopped going to school, but police

1223
00:59:21,119 --> 00:59:24,199
say nothing unusual was detected. The victim says for years

1224
00:59:24,239 --> 00:59:26,360
he was only allowed out of his room briefly in

1225
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,480
the mornings to do chores, and that conditions worsened when

1226
00:59:29,519 --> 00:59:30,880
his father died last year.

1227
00:59:31,159 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, that was allowed.

1228
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 3: He was alive for all this allowed?

1229
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:37,719
Speaker 1: This the fuck is going on?

1230
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 3: So the only thing had stopped the father from getting

1231
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:40,639
arrested was death.

1232
00:59:41,599 --> 00:59:44,239
Speaker 6: Next door neighbor is still processing the shock.

1233
00:59:44,599 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 5: I mean've been here for ten years with my wife

1234
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,320
and I'm out here cutting the grass. If he were

1235
00:59:49,639 --> 00:59:51,960
at that window and would have just tapped and said

1236
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,480
help me, of course I would have been, like, what's

1237
00:59:54,519 --> 00:59:56,320
going on? I would have called the police something.

1238
00:59:59,280 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: Well.

1239
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 6: The victim canntinues to receive medical care as well as

1240
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:07,840
a psychological treatment in the meantime. Sullivan's lawyer says that

1241
01:00:08,199 --> 01:00:10,519
his client was simply carrying out rules that were set

1242
01:00:10,559 --> 01:00:10,920
for The.

1243
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,039
Speaker 1: Guy's got to be like a primate. Yeah, I mean,

1244
01:00:14,239 --> 01:00:16,199
you know what I'm saying, like very basic.

1245
01:00:16,559 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1246
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,239
Speaker 1: I think if you don't have social skills, maybe he

1247
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:23,079
locked up maybe sixty eight pounds could be like, I

1248
01:00:23,159 --> 01:00:27,719
wonder how long we before they sell the captive diet.

1249
01:00:30,159 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 3: Captivity blue zones. Yeah, yeah, didn't. By the way, speaking

1250
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,599
of like holding up of science has helped me, didn't

1251
01:00:35,719 --> 01:00:37,239
Jackson do that in the van once?

1252
01:00:37,559 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: Yes?

1253
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 3: And like did you guys get pulled over? Chenna saw

1254
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,000
it and flipped out on him.

1255
01:00:42,119 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jackson Riley, I don't know what.

1256
01:00:46,599 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember that story, but like.

1257
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: I think I don't know if he was kidding yelled

1258
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,719
that I don't remember. It's so funny. I should call him.

1259
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:57,679
Speaker 3: But this kid like never figured to pick up a

1260
01:00:57,719 --> 01:00:58,719
phone and called nine one one.

1261
01:00:59,519 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: He's got to be like he's got to be like

1262
01:01:02,039 --> 01:01:04,079
like like like mildly retarded.

1263
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,599
Speaker 3: We can't have used that word. We can, but we can.

1264
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: And because here's what, yeah, thank you please.

1265
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 3: We can't use that.

1266
01:01:10,039 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: We can't, we shouldn't, but I'm not to say I'm

1267
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,360
not using it. Like I played a thing the other

1268
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:20,559
night from nineteen seventy four that said that word. It's like,

1269
01:01:21,199 --> 01:01:25,760
you know people who are like they are great neighbors.

1270
01:01:26,119 --> 01:01:28,599
They could live just like you. They go to work,

1271
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,320
they come home, we watch videos a different home. But

1272
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,480
that's right, Retarded people make great neighbors. And that was

1273
01:01:35,519 --> 01:01:37,519
the whole thing. And I go, it was trying to

1274
01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:41,000
integrate society. I go, now we've got LGBTQ and and

1275
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,639
people were Q, Well, we're a little more yes, right,

1276
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,519
but we're a little more tolerant of things.

1277
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,719
Speaker 3: Back then it was like, I don't we at least

1278
01:01:48,719 --> 01:01:51,079
to use that with puppets, with us that retarded people

1279
01:01:51,159 --> 01:01:53,199
were just like us, yeah, and they ate just like

1280
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,039
and like, we're like, okay, sure in second grade, Yeah,

1281
01:01:56,039 --> 01:01:57,840
what's the problem most? And then you get all there

1282
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,280
and then you realize, oh.

1283
01:02:00,039 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: Kids are accepting of most. Yeah, but I don't know

1284
01:02:03,719 --> 01:02:05,760
if I would say mildly. And and by the way,

1285
01:02:06,199 --> 01:02:10,519
retard only means to slow, slow down or stop, yes, right,

1286
01:02:10,679 --> 01:02:12,920
so you know we have fire retard.

1287
01:02:13,039 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 3: We just take we've just taken the term and we

1288
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:16,800
and then people got angry.

1289
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to use it

1290
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,199
in a derogatory but we would ever do that. I'll

1291
01:02:21,239 --> 01:02:24,000
tell you what I think. He's a little slow sounds

1292
01:02:24,079 --> 01:02:26,719
way more offensive to me. Sounds way more offensive.

1293
01:02:27,079 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 3: He's elevated is all the way to the time.

1294
01:02:28,519 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: You know, that sounds so much worse to me than

1295
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,239
the R word. I'm sorry, I can't. I don't know.

1296
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:37,119
Speaker 5: Uh.

1297
01:02:37,639 --> 01:02:40,559
Speaker 1: Imagine being held captured for twenty years and finally escaping

1298
01:02:40,679 --> 01:02:43,360
only to find out rent preces is so high you

1299
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,400
might end up right back in a storage classes.

1300
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 3: Geez oh this poor kid.

1301
01:02:50,119 --> 01:02:52,239
Speaker 1: Thank you, listeners, poor man, appreciate that. Listen.

1302
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 3: That's awful.

1303
01:02:55,039 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 1: How many people are like you? Wonder how many people

1304
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,599
are currently trapped in situations like this? Well, I mean,

1305
01:03:00,679 --> 01:03:04,679
I didn't like hidden in plain sight a few weeks Agoland.

1306
01:03:04,719 --> 01:03:07,639
Speaker 3: I didn't realize that human trafficking in this country alone

1307
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,039
was as bad and as rampant as it is. I

1308
01:03:11,119 --> 01:03:13,599
had no idea like talk about being naive just or

1309
01:03:13,679 --> 01:03:16,079
it stuck in your own like world, you know. And

1310
01:03:16,159 --> 01:03:17,719
I think like in this day you're talking about like

1311
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,440
what's Danbury, Connecticut or like.

1312
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: Woodbury cut Waterbury.

1313
01:03:21,239 --> 01:03:22,679
Speaker 3: Put its way, if there's a b U R I

1314
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,880
at the end of a city's name in Connecticut, it's

1315
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,719
probably a pretty nice neighborhood and that's the creepy house

1316
01:03:28,039 --> 01:03:31,280
in the in a nicer nary area, right, So people

1317
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,480
are going to try to like not quite look at

1318
01:03:33,519 --> 01:03:36,760
that kind of avoid it. I don't think so.

1319
01:03:37,679 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a.

1320
01:03:41,119 --> 01:03:42,079
Speaker 3: When these things happen.

1321
01:03:42,199 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: So it's near Hartford. It's not a great area. It's

1322
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:46,920
it's more of a working class. It's not bad.

1323
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 3: Okay, oh but it's uh, this lady, I've seen the boss.

1324
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:54,039
They lived in Connecticut. It's a nice area.

1325
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: It is a nice area, this.

1326
01:03:55,960 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 3: Brand new life around the bill escaped my step mother's.

1327
01:04:01,519 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 1: House and they go, how did how the system failed

1328
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,039
the victim? How does it fail?

1329
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:11,239
Speaker 3: CPS shows up and you just like, is that playing PlayStation? No?

1330
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,119
Speaker 1: But all you have to be is rational for i know,

1331
01:04:14,239 --> 01:04:16,599
ten minutes and then go back to being your fucking

1332
01:04:16,679 --> 01:04:17,360
crazy asy.

1333
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:21,519
Speaker 3: Here, he's cool, he's been with the problem. And I'm

1334
01:04:21,559 --> 01:04:24,920
sure that day the seek the social services lady or

1335
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,840
gentleman was probably backed up and had a lot of paperwork,

1336
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:29,880
and it was Friday, and they wanted to get home

1337
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:33,719
to their kid, right because they deal with this crap

1338
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,320
all the time. WHI kids slipped through the cracks.

1339
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's sixty eight pounds, that's what do you think?

1340
01:04:39,639 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 3: So like the sports illustrated over the door, that's it.

1341
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:49,639
Speaker 1: Sorry us humanity, Well, that's the thing, And how can

1342
01:04:49,719 --> 01:04:51,519
a human being. Treat another human being like that.

1343
01:04:51,599 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 3: Folks, Like like every time somebody unexpectedly dies or and

1344
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:59,320
they die tragically or they just dropped out of a

1345
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,239
heart attack or something, we always say, Hey, look, tell

1346
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,440
people you love them. Check on your people. I think

1347
01:05:04,519 --> 01:05:08,159
that's something we have to do daily, not weekly or

1348
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,320
monthly or annually. I think it's something daily, Like every

1349
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,679
day I try to check on one person that I've

1350
01:05:13,679 --> 01:05:14,960
connected to them by the phone.

1351
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,639
Speaker 1: Or social media. Gean Hackman want to thank to you.

1352
01:05:16,679 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 3: I Sheean Hackman and his wife were gone for two

1353
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:20,719
weeks and then you find out they died of two

1354
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:24,960
separate incidents. Yes, she died first, right, that was like,

1355
01:05:25,239 --> 01:05:25,960
I don't buy that.

1356
01:05:26,079 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 1: I mean that was way bizarre.

1357
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,239
Speaker 3: Well, the dog in the clause is dead.

1358
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: She's dead.

1359
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 3: He's dead. But they died of three different like causes.

1360
01:05:34,239 --> 01:05:36,239
And like she died like a week before he did.

1361
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, he probably maybe he wasn't playing with a full deck.

1362
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:41,519
Speaker 3: No can we say that? Yeah?

1363
01:05:41,639 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 1: No, I'm not sure they.

1364
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 3: Love to be ninety five At this point, I think

1365
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:48,239
it's accepted. Ageism is the last acceptable prejudice. Billy.

1366
01:05:48,519 --> 01:05:51,599
Speaker 1: I just here's the thing people say and you'll see

1367
01:05:51,719 --> 01:05:54,599
headlines about this story if you look it up. The

1368
01:05:54,719 --> 01:05:59,360
system failed, and what should we do differently to prevent

1369
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:00,400
another case like this?

1370
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 3: Break the system?

1371
01:06:01,679 --> 01:06:04,239
Speaker 1: What there is? There is nothing you can do because

1372
01:06:05,639 --> 01:06:09,800
unless you know, like my dad lives by himself, right,

1373
01:06:11,199 --> 01:06:14,639
I'm not Yeah, I know I'm the captive, but you

1374
01:06:14,679 --> 01:06:17,000
know you see him, you don't see him. A couple

1375
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:20,000
of days go by, nobody thinks of anything. He's not

1376
01:06:20,119 --> 01:06:22,559
partied her every day, right, this lady and her son,

1377
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:23,519
no big deal.

1378
01:06:23,639 --> 01:06:29,039
Speaker 3: Maybe you father apparently died. He's like he like dropped

1379
01:06:29,079 --> 01:06:31,199
dead in a field in his in the back of

1380
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,079
his house, and he didn't live near anybody. It snowed.

1381
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,800
Somebody like like two months later, came by to see

1382
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:40,360
him and he was laying like dead, like frozen for

1383
01:06:40,519 --> 01:06:46,760
like two months or something like that. Yeah, the smell real. Yeah, No,

1384
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,559
it's terrible, true, Ryan, if you're listening asking I'm about that.

1385
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 1: Terrible, terrible story Dan to dump on your brother on

1386
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:55,519
the podcast.

1387
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 3: I had to find out sooner or later.

1388
01:06:57,719 --> 01:07:01,199
Speaker 1: But it does make you what can we do differently?

1389
01:07:01,599 --> 01:07:03,159
I guess the only thing to do is to do

1390
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,480
exactly that. Just check on people, check on people, check

1391
01:07:05,519 --> 01:07:06,039
on people.

1392
01:07:06,079 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 3: Five people a day.

1393
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: Let's do you Facebook?

1394
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:09,719
Speaker 3: Look through your phone and go, hey, man, just thinking

1395
01:07:09,719 --> 01:07:10,039
about you.

1396
01:07:10,119 --> 01:07:10,559
Speaker 1: How you do it?

1397
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,039
Speaker 3: By the way, some people you find out are dead

1398
01:07:14,119 --> 01:07:18,440
as I did. That's why you gotta do it? Is

1399
01:07:18,519 --> 01:07:22,000
that the one yeah, man who asked me, yeah, and

1400
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so I told a story about him involved in Somebody

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close to you used to be close to you, and

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you said, yeah, I think he died. I go, what, Oh, yeah,

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you didn't hear about this. He died last March. Bro,

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where have you been? I go, I'm not on Facebook?

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That's true because like now, everything happens on Facebook. By

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We're gonna take a moment check out your people. Adam

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Speaker 3: I had the change page of white, had you chance,

1455
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Taja White, You chants Haji.

1456
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Speaker 1: Wife had good every name everybody. You don't have to

1457
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,920
come the confessed? Are you looking for you? You don't

1458
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find you don't bite you running till running till running till.

1459
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Speaker 3: Oh, don't come on, we got your tee shirt, left

1460
01:10:42,039 --> 01:10:42,960
me whist and all.

1461
01:10:43,039 --> 01:10:45,239
Speaker 8: You are so gone you won't really go.

1462
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:47,399
Speaker 1: I missed the mid two thousands.

1463
01:10:48,239 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 3: Convid I was a tag by I'm a Idiot and

1464
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,920
the Projects. So dope, so dope, so dumb.

1465
01:10:55,119 --> 01:10:58,600
Speaker 8: So he's climbing your windows, he's snatching your people.

1466
01:10:58,520 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: Are trying to right from.

1467
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,159
Speaker 3: This kid ended up become a kind of quasi famous

1468
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,359
the money they made from this song. He ended up

1469
01:11:08,359 --> 01:11:10,359
getting his family out of the projects and up become

1470
01:11:10,399 --> 01:11:13,760
a drug addict that was on Doctor Drew. This kid, yeah, wait,

1471
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:15,239
this guy, he ended up on Doctor Drew.

1472
01:11:15,279 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 1: But it was somebody else that made the song.

1473
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, they else made the song. Somebody else always makes

1474
01:11:19,279 --> 01:11:19,560
the song.

1475
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was a white kid. Yeah, put himself in

1476
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:22,840
the video young kid. Yeah.

1477
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,359
Speaker 3: And then at the end, he played piano, how your kids?

1478
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:27,760
How'd your laugh over the piano bit? Wait?

1479
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:31,199
Speaker 1: Wait, wait wait, let's see. How do you remember all this?

1480
01:11:31,399 --> 01:11:35,319
Speaker 3: I had to produce it all, remember, Yeah? I started

1481
01:11:35,359 --> 01:11:37,319
like a week's worth of shows with this bit. Tody

1482
01:11:37,359 --> 01:11:43,399
couldn't stop laughing at how things right here?

1483
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 1: Next up Hall and it's great, Darryl's coming to town.

1484
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,800
By the way, Now, who is the more the more successful?

1485
01:11:59,159 --> 01:11:59,279
Was it?

1486
01:11:59,399 --> 01:11:59,640
Speaker 2: Darryl?

1487
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,239
Speaker 1: Daryl John Oats has a great song called Ozark or

1488
01:12:02,279 --> 01:12:02,880
something that's out there.

1489
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:04,319
Speaker 3: I think John Oates was like kind of like the

1490
01:12:04,399 --> 01:12:06,000
Garfunkle of the group, and they said if you took

1491
01:12:06,039 --> 01:12:07,640
him away from Hall of Notes, then the Hall Notes

1492
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:09,159
wouldn't really be as good as they were.

1493
01:12:09,399 --> 01:12:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I remember talking to him. I think he

1494
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:16,680
went to Temple on a wrestling scholarship. So I interviewed

1495
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:18,039
him once and I go, you ever throw on the

1496
01:12:18,079 --> 01:12:21,960
old singlet? And he got kind of annoyed, and I

1497
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:26,119
wouldn't let cracked. He's like, yeah, he admit it was funny.

1498
01:12:26,159 --> 01:12:29,520
But you know, they're doing these dumb radio tours and

1499
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:34,079
that was the thing. But Darryl is coming to the

1500
01:12:34,199 --> 01:12:37,279
winery and I'm forgetting the name of it right now,

1501
01:12:37,399 --> 01:12:40,600
but somebody probably can remember it. I heard about it

1502
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:48,359
because a young lady my son is hanging out with whoa.

1503
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:52,279
Speaker 3: Who should go? Yeah, the winery and Cuca leg Yeah.

1504
01:12:52,359 --> 01:12:58,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's something on the bluff something Bluff Bluff Winery.

1505
01:12:58,720 --> 01:12:59,159
Let me see.

1506
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:01,079
Speaker 3: Oh, there's a lot of them out there, Billy.

1507
01:13:03,239 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 1: I think it's called Point of the Buff. Yeah, Point

1508
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,800
of the Bluff, the vineyards, Point in the Buff Vineyards.

1509
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:12,359
And they're gonna have kep Mo with Taj Mahal. Oh wow,

1510
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,880
that's like a festival. Oh no, this is They do amazing,

1511
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,520
amazing shows out there. They had I think they had

1512
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:20,960
a couple of years ago. I wanted to go. Uh

1513
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,880
it was Jacob Dillon.

1514
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, wallflowers.

1515
01:13:26,039 --> 01:13:28,119
Speaker 1: I'm not sure it was all of the wallflowers thing.

1516
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,399
I'm not sure pretty much was the wallflowers all right,

1517
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:34,960
So here we go. We've got yep, she told me

1518
01:13:35,039 --> 01:13:37,800
the date and everything, kep MO with Mahall on May

1519
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:42,560
thirty first. That that is right there, great fucking show, unbelievable.

1520
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:43,079
Speaker 3: Uh.

1521
01:13:43,279 --> 01:13:47,399
Speaker 1: Then you've got beginnings Meg Williams, Who'm not familiar with,

1522
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:51,039
but I'm sure it's fantastic. July thirteenth, It's a Sunday,

1523
01:13:51,359 --> 01:13:56,039
three thirty in the afternoon, Darryl Hall with Glenn Tilbrook. Okay,

1524
01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:01,920
then returning I believe and that I love. They have

1525
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,119
a song that I absolutely love, and I'm going to

1526
01:14:04,199 --> 01:14:06,760
dig it up before I say who they are. But

1527
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:08,560
they're coming. I don't know why I'm going to go

1528
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,600
through this whole thing, but i am because I'm excited now,

1529
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,319
all right, But it's the point of the bluff, and

1530
01:14:13,399 --> 01:14:15,920
they know they're not an advertiser, they're not anything with us.

1531
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,640
I shouldn't do this. You would get in trouble in

1532
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:19,119
the old.

1533
01:14:19,039 --> 01:14:24,119
Speaker 3: Days when I had a band if we mentioned my

1534
01:14:24,199 --> 01:14:26,520
band's name on CMF, one of the sales guys got

1535
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:27,560
all bent out of shape.

1536
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 1: What remember?

1537
01:14:29,039 --> 01:14:32,640
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the sales guy. He always wore suspenders and smoked.

1538
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:34,800
I forgot his name. I see them all the time.

1539
01:14:35,159 --> 01:14:41,279
Speaker 1: He really still is. Probably we have.

1540
01:14:41,279 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 3: To a bunch of Diggler's Bridge playing at Spenders because

1541
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,119
we're playing at Spenders and it's part of my character

1542
01:14:47,359 --> 01:14:50,119
on the show. Got a band. If you're done radio,

1543
01:14:50,279 --> 01:14:50,920
you sell radio?

1544
01:14:51,239 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 1: All right?

1545
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 3: All right? Hang on the second here, it's like the

1546
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:55,600
office but with radio.

1547
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:59,600
Speaker 1: Okay, these guys are coming. I love the song. I

1548
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:00,880
don't know why. I just love it.

1549
01:15:01,239 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 3: You won't know it.

1550
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:06,199
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody will know it. I pick aboutside

1551
01:15:06,199 --> 01:15:06,640
of the gate.

1552
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:14,079
Speaker 3: She takes the weed train. She tells me everything she feels.

1553
01:15:14,319 --> 01:15:19,119
Speaker 5: You can take its fat.

1554
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:22,079
Speaker 1: You're never gonna guess who this is.

1555
01:15:22,079 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 3: I don't know what is com around the black.

1556
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 1: Because I will up now. They've got this fan twice

1557
01:15:34,199 --> 01:15:36,960
A little fucked up here. Point of the Bluff has

1558
01:15:37,239 --> 01:15:40,319
the Bacon Brothers. This is Kevin Bacon and his brother. Okay,

1559
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:42,399
I love this song. I don't know why.

1560
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 3: Kevin's not singing, is he?

1561
01:15:44,119 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh he is?

1562
01:15:45,079 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, till be Kevin Bacon. Yeah, like six degrees. Yes,

1563
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:57,479
oh wowzy easy. I'm glad after sixty some ody years.

1564
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:01,560
Speaker 1: Oh he's been The Bacon Brothers have been around for us. Yeah. Yeah,

1565
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:03,279
see his brother They've been playing forever.

1566
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:04,079
Speaker 3: Oh wow.

1567
01:16:04,159 --> 01:16:08,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. They have the Bacon Brothers in July twenty fourth,

1568
01:16:09,119 --> 01:16:11,439
and it's Onunday, July twenty seventh. And that may be

1569
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,119
because I think last year it might might have sold.

1570
01:16:14,159 --> 01:16:17,079
I think the Bacon Brothers came in between there on Friday,

1571
01:16:17,159 --> 01:16:19,960
July twenty is Trace Atkins.

1572
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:24,239
Speaker 3: Oh okay that these are fucking are real, Like, you

1573
01:16:24,399 --> 01:16:24,680
got to.

1574
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:28,359
Speaker 1: See this place, dude. It is gorgeous. It overlooks Cuka Lake.

1575
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 5: It is.

1576
01:16:29,119 --> 01:16:32,039
Speaker 3: We could see it from where Damien. It's at a winery.

1577
01:16:32,119 --> 01:16:34,600
So people aren't going to get too missed up. I

1578
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:35,119
mean they could.

1579
01:16:35,199 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 1: But one of my all time, all time favorites is

1580
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:43,680
coming on Sunday, August third. Lyle love It. I love

1581
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,199
Lyle really yeah, I'm a big fan. I love it

1582
01:16:46,279 --> 01:16:49,560
John Hyatt where they each play together. They sit down

1583
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,279
acoustically and they'll play a Lyle song and then a

1584
01:16:52,359 --> 01:16:54,720
John song and they accompany each other on their songs.

1585
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:59,800
Then then another big name. I could start at this

1586
01:17:00,359 --> 01:17:04,479
about one hundred bucks Leanne Rhymes at Point of the

1587
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:11,039
Bluff Sunday, August tenth, with that one uh bands in town.

1588
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:13,439
It's not the band I'm thinking of, but they're gonna

1589
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:16,439
be there on the twenty third. Emmy Lou Harris is coming.

1590
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,960
Emmy Lou, Emmy lou So Tray Sakins tickets. They're saying

1591
01:17:20,039 --> 01:17:23,119
start at one hundred and fifty three. Anne Rhymes one

1592
01:17:23,199 --> 01:17:26,039
hundred Emmy Lou Harris one hundred and fifteen.

1593
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 3: They have a concert tip. Is that why they're thinkets

1594
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:30,239
are so expensive?

1595
01:17:30,319 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's because why you can chargo.

1596
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,159
Speaker 3: Slap a tiff. I'd lie, I love it so hard.

1597
01:17:39,279 --> 01:17:40,800
That's why you're only gonna get hop.

1598
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 1: They don't talk anymore.

1599
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:45,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess who's falling out.

1600
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 1: I don't fucking know. I would love to know. I

1601
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:52,079
have wanted to interview Daryl Hall for so many many years.

1602
01:17:52,239 --> 01:17:54,600
You have no idea absolutely find him.

1603
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,239
Speaker 3: I just I Well, he's got that show on Access

1604
01:17:57,319 --> 01:17:58,439
called Darryl's.

1605
01:17:58,079 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 1: House Daryl's House, and it's shot and Pauling, New York,

1606
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,239
which is down by my mother, and he has there's

1607
01:18:03,279 --> 01:18:05,640
a club called Darryl's House. He doesn't ever play there,

1608
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,560
so mostly cover bands in there. But they have another

1609
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:10,760
place and you can't. There's no tickets to it. There's

1610
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,239
no live audience, which I think is a huge miss, right,

1611
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:14,000
But you.

1612
01:18:14,039 --> 01:18:15,560
Speaker 3: Got to tell him that when you interviewed, the first

1613
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:17,359
thing you're gonna say to that's probably what doesn't want

1614
01:18:17,359 --> 01:18:17,680
to talk to you.

1615
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 1: So well. I used to see him heard in the

1616
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,760
Deli and Adams Fheric of Farms. He would come in

1617
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:24,880
and then once he got.

1618
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 3: Rid of the mustache.

1619
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 1: Right, No, he has the other oats. He's the tall

1620
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:31,319
blonde and he's tall. Okay, so I so there was

1621
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:40,239
Hall notes were coming to Canadagua Cemac Okay, sorry, oh

1622
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:43,279
here they come. Yeah, I hate that song, by the way,

1623
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:44,479
all their songs I hate.

1624
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:46,399
Speaker 3: It's not about a prostitute. It's about living in New

1625
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:48,119
York City and in the eighties.

1626
01:18:48,359 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and women. They weren't there for love. You weren't

1627
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:51,479
going to find love.

1628
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's what it was. It was about, Like

1629
01:18:54,159 --> 01:18:55,640
who thought it was about a prosthet No, they said

1630
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:57,479
it wasn't about a prostitute. I have the unplugg booked

1631
01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:59,319
at home, and they said it wasn't about a prostitute.

1632
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 1: I never thought it was. I thought it was about women.

1633
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 3: A lot of people thought it was about prostitution. It wasn't.

1634
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:06,000
It's about like life in.

1635
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:08,640
Speaker 1: New York CITs in the American top forty. Here comes

1636
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:12,319
your number one? Yeah it was. It was nineteen eighty three.

1637
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:18,640
But so Daryl Hall, uh, yeah, he's gonna play. I

1638
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:18,880
don't know.

1639
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:19,079
Speaker 3: Oh.

1640
01:19:19,159 --> 01:19:23,239
Speaker 1: Oh, so I was going to Cemac and I get

1641
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:28,239
so I think the show sold out, right, So every

1642
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:32,359
band holds back seats for friends and family, so you

1643
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:35,239
usually get its day of the show.

1644
01:19:35,319 --> 01:19:37,319
Speaker 3: When there's not a lot of friends and family who show.

1645
01:19:37,199 --> 01:19:40,399
Speaker 1: Up, right, because who's who's a friend and family of

1646
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:41,760
Darrel Hall or people in the band.

1647
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:43,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, mom's following you on the window.

1648
01:19:43,399 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 1: So I called somebody seats. They called somebody who in

1649
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:54,880
the banned pretty popular band, and they called the percussionists

1650
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:58,000
playing for Daryl Hall, and we got eleventh throw seats.

1651
01:19:58,199 --> 01:20:00,319
Oh wow, so we're there watching.

1652
01:20:00,399 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 3: Oh here he comes Bill Moran Holland out I was.

1653
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 1: I was, yeah, so I'm watching. And then this is

1654
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,479
just a couple of years ago and Darryl something happens

1655
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:16,119
and man, he is pissed on stage, like his head

1656
01:20:16,199 --> 01:20:19,079
is swinging around like somebody made a mistake. And he

1657
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:23,600
was like, yeah, oh wow, yeah you got I totally.

1658
01:20:24,199 --> 01:20:26,600
I was very dialed into what Daryl was doing and stuff,

1659
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:28,960
because I think he's extremely made. I love hearing him.

1660
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:33,119
I love Daryl's house. I'm such the show was on

1661
01:20:33,239 --> 01:20:33,720
the Access.

1662
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:36,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know a guy who modeled his his Rod

1663
01:20:36,159 --> 01:20:40,000
General's house. What Todd Tracy from the band Audible they're

1664
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:40,600
pretty popular.

1665
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1666
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've been around for twenty five years. He's got

1667
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,319
he's his father had passed away and they left him

1668
01:20:46,359 --> 01:20:49,000
the property and he turned the practice spot.

1669
01:20:49,039 --> 01:20:51,079
Speaker 1: Did I just see it the other day? No?

1670
01:20:51,359 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 3: Beard guy? Okay. He he sings and drums for like

1671
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,800
a band called Audible, And so they have this huge

1672
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:01,680
garage that's like it's got a built in a stage sound.

1673
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:03,399
If he was just come over his jam, and it's

1674
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:04,159
also pavilion.

1675
01:21:04,359 --> 01:21:04,680
Speaker 1: Awesome.

1676
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:06,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could hear him with three Town's over.

1677
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:07,319
Speaker 1: That is awesome.

1678
01:21:07,359 --> 01:21:07,520
Speaker 9: It is.

1679
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, So he did it like Daryll those Housens. So

1680
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,920
Bill all got ticked off and somebody screwed up in

1681
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:13,680
the band in the vand musicians are weird, man.

1682
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 1: I mean he's looking around, he's I know people. Ever,

1683
01:21:17,399 --> 01:21:20,079
he had a kind of jump in point. I don't

1684
01:21:20,119 --> 01:21:22,159
know what happened. I was dying to know, but I

1685
01:21:22,199 --> 01:21:25,800
would I would want to ask him about everything, you know,

1686
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:31,319
Blue White Soul, Philadelphia, the whole thing. You know, Sarah's smile.

1687
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,159
I think it was based on his first wife, or

1688
01:21:34,319 --> 01:21:35,479
trying or or le.

1689
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,640
Speaker 3: Tangled in three of them. No, okay, but one of

1690
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:43,279
their wives died didn't they And the other one was

1691
01:21:43,319 --> 01:21:44,199
really close to her too.

1692
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, No, iald a lot of football this week.

1693
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:50,800
Buffalo Bill's never talk enough football. Yeah, it could be.

1694
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:56,520
But Adam Schefter, who is big at breaking news that

1695
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:59,079
happens in the NFL, I was thinking about it. I go,

1696
01:21:59,359 --> 01:22:02,039
I don't know that. I go to x the social

1697
01:22:02,079 --> 01:22:05,319
media platform for anything other than sports and news, yeah,

1698
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:08,199
to find out and I can't find it sometimes because

1699
01:22:08,239 --> 01:22:09,159
it's all this other bulls.

1700
01:22:09,239 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 3: Yes, sometimes because the four utab becomes this like like

1701
01:22:12,119 --> 01:22:13,560
algorithm garbage.

1702
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:15,199
Speaker 1: It's like to become an obsolete platform.

1703
01:22:15,279 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 3: To me, in a way, it's because things though, Is

1704
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:19,680
that that tail still wags media dog?

1705
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:20,199
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1706
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 3: So whatever's on Twitter or x now is reported on

1707
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:25,960
all the major news outlets and local outlets too.

1708
01:22:26,359 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 1: Here is Adam Schefter getting pissed off at one A

1709
01:22:31,079 --> 01:22:32,960
Ron Rogers to.

1710
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,119
Speaker 10: Me, this shouldn't be that hard, right, Like the Steelers

1711
01:22:35,239 --> 01:22:40,159
want you, the Giants want you. We're seeing players across

1712
01:22:40,199 --> 01:22:43,640
the league make decisions. It shouldn't be that hard. Either

1713
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:45,399
you want to play or you don't want to play Pittsburgh,

1714
01:22:45,399 --> 01:22:46,520
you don't you want to play in York, or you

1715
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:50,000
don't like put again for launch. You make decision, you

1716
01:22:50,079 --> 01:22:52,079
to drag it out for four days days a week.

1717
01:22:52,199 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 3: It's not that hard.

1718
01:22:53,079 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 10: Make decision and live.

1719
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:56,159
Speaker 3: With it, all right.

1720
01:22:57,359 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 1: No, I know that Aaron Rodgers is hated everybody most yea,

1721
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:04,439
mostly they don't have a favorable opinion of Aaron Rodgers.

1722
01:23:05,359 --> 01:23:09,680
I think Antonio Brown, as crazy as he may or

1723
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,760
may not be, who used to be a Steeler, has

1724
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:17,199
reported that Aaron hasign it's a tier deal of course, yeah,

1725
01:23:17,359 --> 01:23:19,439
or or accepted a two year deal, whether or not

1726
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:22,239
to sign it. I don't know. Is Rogers actually being

1727
01:23:22,319 --> 01:23:25,159
dramatic and dragging this out? Could there be something that's

1728
01:23:25,199 --> 01:23:27,399
holding up to find trying to work out? I mean

1729
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:29,960
I've certainly had those in mind. I had to. I

1730
01:23:30,239 --> 01:23:33,439
almost tanked an entire deal over a bonus structure once

1731
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:37,359
because I was told it was one thing verbally, and

1732
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:41,479
and then I get on paper completely backwards and I

1733
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:43,279
had to fight and fight and fight. I was ready

1734
01:23:43,319 --> 01:23:47,159
to just go what but or our journalists just annoyed

1735
01:23:47,199 --> 01:23:49,399
that they're not getting the scoops fast enough. This sounds

1736
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:52,199
almost like I go in a way, because I think

1737
01:23:52,239 --> 01:23:54,319
most people are gonna hear Adam Scheff, go yeah, God

1738
01:23:54,399 --> 01:23:57,239
damn it, make a decision. We want to know why

1739
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:00,560
Chef know about after question.

1740
01:24:01,119 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 3: Now we're in the era of with Chefter. He's he's

1741
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:07,439
known for breaking news. But I think after you've done

1742
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:10,319
that for so long an authority, you want to be there.

1743
01:24:10,359 --> 01:24:13,520
You want to have opinion shared, You have thoughts, and

1744
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:16,479
as a reporter, you're not really supposed to share what

1745
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:20,039
you're really thinking. I mean, you can give insight, but

1746
01:24:20,159 --> 01:24:23,000
it has to sound like common sense insight our group think.

1747
01:24:23,039 --> 01:24:25,439
It can't sound like it's just your opinion and blah

1748
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:27,359
blah blah. Is then you ruin your cotactions people if

1749
01:24:27,359 --> 01:24:29,319
you ever take a stance. I think he's had enough

1750
01:24:29,359 --> 01:24:31,520
of Aaron Rodgers, like a lot of people, I think

1751
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:34,239
that Antonio Brown may be right for this reason. The

1752
01:24:34,319 --> 01:24:37,079
Steelers they're at a quarterback vacuum right now and they

1753
01:24:37,119 --> 01:24:39,439
haven't called Russell Wilson back, and Russell Wilson's a free agent.

1754
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 1: I think, so the story to me is not.

1755
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers as much as it's what do you want

1756
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:43,199
for Russ?

1757
01:24:43,399 --> 01:24:46,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think I think the Ian Rodgers deal

1758
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:50,239
none or none, And yeah, you're right, and that's a

1759
01:24:50,279 --> 01:24:54,079
great indicator exactly that that Russell Wilson is nowhere being

1760
01:24:54,119 --> 01:24:54,800
talked about it all.

1761
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:58,039
Speaker 3: The other thing too, about A. A. Ron Rogers is

1762
01:24:58,199 --> 01:25:02,119
that some along the life he didn't get something someone

1763
01:25:02,279 --> 01:25:04,039
in his life, he didn't get something right. I don't

1764
01:25:04,039 --> 01:25:05,680
know if he talks to his parents or if you

1765
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,239
ever reconcile with them. He hasn't talked to If that's

1766
01:25:08,279 --> 01:25:09,760
the case, he hasn't talked to them in over ten

1767
01:25:10,039 --> 01:25:12,840
He felt like he was slighted. He had to go

1768
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:14,840
to a community college. He gets noticed. He goes to

1769
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:19,239
cal He gets drafted like twenty four picks after Alex Smith.

1770
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,159
He ends up getting Mike McCarthy's as head coach, who

1771
01:25:22,239 --> 01:25:24,600
was part of the Niners who overlooked him. So he

1772
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:26,880
always had a grudge against McCarthy. He won a Super Bowl.

1773
01:25:27,399 --> 01:25:30,000
He's a bit of a Baylor. He had to go iohwas.

1774
01:25:30,359 --> 01:25:34,000
He's searching for something and it's always attention. But part

1775
01:25:34,039 --> 01:25:36,760
of it is not that he's this overly intellectual dude.

1776
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:38,199
I think he thinks he is, and he wants us

1777
01:25:38,199 --> 01:25:40,079
to believe he's smarter than he is. I think he

1778
01:25:40,239 --> 01:25:42,119
likes toying them like with the media the way Andy

1779
01:25:42,159 --> 01:25:43,960
Coffin is and he cough, but used to f with

1780
01:25:44,039 --> 01:25:46,279
people just for his own amusement, not to be not

1781
01:25:46,359 --> 01:25:48,479
to make the masses laugh, just to make him laugh.

1782
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well it's a lot of power.

1783
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the whole thing.

1784
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:56,239
Speaker 11: He loves the attention, the power to be on television

1785
01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:58,520
and then on podcast. I think this was on a podcast.

1786
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:02,359
Was and then yeah, re retweeted, replayed everywhere.

1787
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 3: It kind of you know, my sources, it appeared Rogers,

1788
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:10,399
one time Super Bowl champion, five time MVP, is being

1789
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:11,079
a douchebag.

1790
01:26:11,279 --> 01:26:13,039
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is like that friend that you go to

1791
01:26:13,119 --> 01:26:15,239
the restaurant with and takes some forty five minutes to order.

1792
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:15,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1793
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:17,399
Speaker 1: Right, that's kind of what he's doing right now.

1794
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:19,600
Speaker 3: I've got to wait for him for fifteen minutes. Yeah.

1795
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I always go our quarterbacks and being devas

1796
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:29,399
and I think about that and I go, are they

1797
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:33,159
I don't know, most of the attention is on them.

1798
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:36,079
You know, who's talking about your left tackle most of

1799
01:26:36,119 --> 01:26:39,479
the time? No money, right, who's talking about your center?

1800
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:39,960
As much?

1801
01:26:40,079 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 3: Is given much as expected, and so you want to

1802
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:44,520
make it all the money, But you're the one who

1803
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:46,479
at the end of the day is going to be

1804
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:49,239
held accountable for winning a championship or not. Not the

1805
01:26:49,319 --> 01:26:52,439
left tackle right, not the center right, you know. And

1806
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:56,000
I mean, well, let me give you a story. There's

1807
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:59,039
a guy we know named Jim Kelly whom and I

1808
01:26:59,159 --> 01:27:02,560
know this because Daryl Tally told me this himself. Okay,

1809
01:27:03,399 --> 01:27:05,800
after you left the show, we got Darryl Tally on

1810
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:10,520
to talk and Darryl may have, you know, been drinking

1811
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:13,119
a little bit in the morning at that time. This

1812
01:27:13,239 --> 01:27:15,239
is before that that broken next story came out like

1813
01:27:15,279 --> 01:27:18,640
he was going through a lot, and Daryl believes that

1814
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:20,239
Daryl should be in the Hall of Fame. Now, no

1815
01:27:20,279 --> 01:27:22,439
one's ever thought that Darryl Talley was a great player

1816
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:24,760
in Buffalo, but no one ever thought like hall of Famer.

1817
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:30,039
No that yes he did. Yeah, and Darryl said, he

1818
01:27:30,199 --> 01:27:35,119
told me. He goes, hey, he told the Bills PR guy, Hey, listen,

1819
01:27:35,159 --> 01:27:36,359
you got to help get me in the Hall of

1820
01:27:36,399 --> 01:27:37,720
Fame or I'm not gonna endy. He goes, well, we

1821
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:40,239
got to get Jim in this year, meaning two thousand

1822
01:27:40,239 --> 01:27:42,720
and two, or else Jim's not getting in. I mean,

1823
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:46,239
the voters were on the fence about Jim Kelly and

1824
01:27:46,319 --> 01:27:48,800
the upcoming classes were coming in and Jim was gonna

1825
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:51,319
get buried further and further down the ballot unless they

1826
01:27:51,399 --> 01:27:54,680
got him in that year. And when you hear about

1827
01:27:55,039 --> 01:27:57,800
the quarterbacks, the greatest quarterbacks of all time, you always

1828
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:00,640
hear about Marino. You never hear about Kelly. Kelly went

1829
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:03,039
to four Super Bowls. Marina only went to one despite

1830
01:28:03,079 --> 01:28:06,880
all of his records. Yeah, okay, if Kelly had just

1831
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,319
won one, it would have been a slam dunk, no brainer.

1832
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:10,600
Speaker 1: But he didn't win one.

1833
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 3: And people were always wondering why, because you know, it's like,

1834
01:28:13,199 --> 01:28:14,960
at the end of the day, ultimately they're gonna point

1835
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:16,720
the two guys while those Bills didn't win Super Bowls,

1836
01:28:17,079 --> 01:28:20,399
Jim Kelly and Marvel Leaving. Yeah, and so it's on

1837
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:22,600
the quarterback, man, It's always on the quarterball.

1838
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 1: Well, I mean you think about it like I don't.

1839
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:28,039
I never really thought this guy was a diva. Oh yeah,

1840
01:28:28,079 --> 01:28:30,119
he's always been a No, no, not not Aaron. I'm

1841
01:28:30,119 --> 01:28:32,479
not telling you the guy I'm about to mention. I

1842
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:35,399
never really thought of him as a diva. But his

1843
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:38,600
retirement became a big thing. Or was he was he

1844
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:41,960
not Tom Brady when he unretired and all that. Yeah,

1845
01:28:42,159 --> 01:28:45,239
that was a little bit of dramatics and control, and

1846
01:28:45,359 --> 01:28:47,439
I think that was more personal stuff.

1847
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 3: Clearly he wanted to control from the of the organization,

1848
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:53,159
away from the head coach. He wanted to run the show.

1849
01:28:54,039 --> 01:28:56,960
And of course the producer wants to get in with Schefter,

1850
01:28:57,119 --> 01:28:59,319
so he texts Schefter. He goes, tom Brady just announced

1851
01:28:59,319 --> 01:29:03,319
he's retiring on his on his series, and so Schefter

1852
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:05,920
reports it on a Saturday, and then Brady goes, no,

1853
01:29:06,039 --> 01:29:07,920
that's not true. Well, yeah, I'm retired, and then he

1854
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:10,079
gets on a flight. He goes to London. He meets

1855
01:29:10,079 --> 01:29:14,039
with the Glazer family from Rochester and talks them into

1856
01:29:15,319 --> 01:29:16,960
telling their head coach, Hey, why don't you take a

1857
01:29:17,039 --> 01:29:20,439
seat made visor, because why he wanted total control of

1858
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the offense. Yeah, Tom Brady, I've heard, like I recruit

1859
01:29:24,319 --> 01:29:26,840
out of Boston, so I've heard Tom Brady's stories. He's

1860
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:28,560
not the greatest guy in the world. He's not the

1861
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:30,680
smartest guy in the world either. He's just obsessed with

1862
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,600
football and so that's what he's really really He's great,

1863
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:34,159
He's the best.

1864
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was the best.

1865
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Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it. The competitor like Jordan, like

1866
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:40,159
he is a killer. Michael Jordan was a killer. There's

1867
01:29:40,159 --> 01:29:43,439
a killer inside there, and he wanted control. He's that

1868
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:44,119
kind of guy.

1869
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think a lot of people who are

1870
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very successful like that are.

1871
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Speaker 3: Well yeah, well, let's look at Rogers, Let's look at Brady,

1872
01:29:52,319 --> 01:29:56,039
and let's look at Jordan. They all felt slighted. Yeah,

1873
01:29:56,880 --> 01:30:00,399
oh sure, that's what drove them. Yeah, okay, like that

1874
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:03,199
Andrew Bustamante c I was telling you guys about. Yeah,

1875
01:30:03,239 --> 01:30:05,399
he has a podcast called Everyday Spy. He said. The

1876
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:08,560
common denominator with like the bait, the jeff Bezos of

1877
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:10,960
the world, and all these successful peoples that's somewhere along

1878
01:30:11,039 --> 01:30:14,119
the light and someone early in their life betrayed them

1879
01:30:14,239 --> 01:30:17,920
or hurt them or left them behind somewhere there was

1880
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,520
some type of tragedy that they felt they had to overcome.

1881
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:22,680
But when you're an athlete, in a lot of ways,

1882
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:24,119
you kind of kind of have to make it up

1883
01:30:24,119 --> 01:30:26,359
a little bit. Yeah, right, I mean, let's look at

1884
01:30:26,399 --> 01:30:28,720
our boy, Josh Allen had to send out a thousand

1885
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:33,159
emails to get two responses for scholarships, right, Okay, and

1886
01:30:33,239 --> 01:30:35,279
now look at them. And by the way, on the

1887
01:30:35,359 --> 01:30:37,920
opposite and you're right. You want to talk about a

1888
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:40,239
way to handle year's press conference after he got that

1889
01:30:40,359 --> 01:30:43,079
contract signed. No, he goes, Look, I could take more money,

1890
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:45,399
but what's an extra five million dollars? He goes, I

1891
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:47,800
got a car, I got a house. Now he's mean.

1892
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:50,760
He's not humbly bragging, but he sounds humble like, hey, listen, man,

1893
01:30:51,039 --> 01:30:52,840
we're here to win a super Bowl. Because he knows

1894
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:54,760
that's what he's going to be judged on. Yes, he

1895
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:56,960
could be the highest paid quarterback in Terry Pagolo would

1896
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,600
gladly signed that check. But he's not being a douchebag

1897
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:02,039
about it. Aaron Rodgers has always kind of been a douchebag.

1898
01:31:02,199 --> 01:31:05,279
Speaker 1: Well, I I yeah, I just worried Tom Brady took

1899
01:31:05,359 --> 01:31:08,039
less that he could be. Yeah, wanted to win.

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Speaker 3: My legacy is attached to rings, not dollar signs. That's

1901
01:31:12,319 --> 01:31:12,840
the whole thing.

1902
01:31:13,039 --> 01:31:17,399
Speaker 1: And the rings keeps the dollars coming in long after

1903
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:18,359
the game right left.

1904
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:20,119
Speaker 3: The other thing too, is Robert Craft is kind of

1905
01:31:20,119 --> 01:31:23,319
in charge of the TV contracts. Yeah, hey listen, Tom,

1906
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:25,840
maybe he was drunk. I'll pay you on the back end.

1907
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:28,239
If you like to take less here for Belichick, I'll

1908
01:31:28,319 --> 01:31:31,159
make sure that your television career is a little critive.

1909
01:31:31,359 --> 01:31:33,000
He's gonna either gonna make more money in TV than

1910
01:31:33,039 --> 01:31:34,000
he ever made as a playoff.

1911
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah right.

1912
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:38,560
Speaker 3: I mean, so there you go. But it so, Hey, look,

1913
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:40,920
I love what Alan did. And then there's Rogers, who's

1914
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:42,840
just looking for something curious.

1915
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:44,279
Speaker 1: And I thought this was a little weird. And I

1916
01:31:44,399 --> 01:31:46,239
know that most people are gonna go, Adam Schefter, You're

1917
01:31:46,239 --> 01:31:49,800
absolutely right, and I'm saying, why do you care? Why

1918
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:52,079
are you so uptight about this? I think.

1919
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:56,319
Speaker 3: Everything I think also. I think sometimes when writers get

1920
01:31:56,399 --> 01:31:59,119
slighted or reporters get slighted by a certain someone, then

1921
01:31:59,159 --> 01:32:01,439
they will start to go after them a little bit.

1922
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:04,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that makes sense. Yeah, I get that. I

1923
01:32:04,239 --> 01:32:04,520
get that.

1924
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:08,079
Speaker 3: Talking way too much in that second. I think I

1925
01:32:08,199 --> 01:32:11,439
told them way too many stories? Right? Why?

1926
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:14,239
Speaker 1: Why why are you self critiquing? We haven't even ended yet.

1927
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:15,640
I know, I just what are you doing?

1928
01:32:16,199 --> 01:32:17,520
Speaker 3: We could have done without the Kelly story.

1929
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 1: Did I say anything at all?

1930
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:22,680
Speaker 3: I just I just replaying it in my head.

1931
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 1: I will slow down. Geezu's going into it. A Friday no,

1932
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:29,479
Friday's a bad Friday, Friday, Saint Patrick's Day weekend going.

1933
01:32:29,399 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 3: To the parade, Billy, we go into the prey.

1934
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:34,359
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I don't know. I don't

1935
01:32:34,359 --> 01:32:37,600
know that I'm going to celebrate Saint Patrick's Day. Uh

1936
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:39,319
like I do or did?

1937
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:41,399
Speaker 3: Because what's funny is that Saint Patrick's Day is on

1938
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:41,920
a Monday.

1939
01:32:42,039 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 1: Well, yes, and I may celebrate that day. I may

1940
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:46,279
go have corn, beef and cabins.

1941
01:32:46,319 --> 01:32:48,560
Speaker 3: Some people be turned into a three day holiday, three

1942
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:49,159
day weekends.

1943
01:32:49,199 --> 01:32:51,640
Speaker 1: Oh I would if I were alone. If I didn't.

1944
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:53,960
If I were alone, Oh that's right. A year ago,

1945
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,279
you didn't be sleeping under the fucking bridge, i'd be.

1946
01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:58,840
I'd be a mess, yes, but I will not be

1947
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:02,159
this weekend. I was talking to a friend of mine

1948
01:33:02,199 --> 01:33:05,199
and he goes, yeah Saint Patrick's say. He goes, I

1949
01:33:05,319 --> 01:33:07,640
was just saying on my liver, come on, you can

1950
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:12,800
handle it. You've done it before, all right. For Dan,

1951
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:15,079
Billoo thinks he talked too much in the last segment.

1952
01:33:15,119 --> 01:33:19,479
I'm Bill Moran, We'll see you. I'm Saint Patrick's Day.

1953
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:21,680
Speaker 3: He was up to. They wouldn't have let us in

1954
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:24,000
the night. We landed and man was like a bridge

1955
01:33:24,039 --> 01:33:26,399
and no sand. In gavis Prest they bowl a bar

1956
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:32,720
in the Gristan Gates. See Tennessee