Speaker 1: What's going on? Clippers fans?
Speaker 2: Welcome to season four, episode seven of Clips and Dip.
If I sound trepidacious, it is because our platform continues
the update itself and not fix the problems that we're
there before. Anyway, I am Chuck Mockler, joined by Adam Osland.
William Updyke is in London, England, hopefully spreading the good word.
Speaker 1: Of the clips.
Speaker 2: Clippers basketball is back next week. Regular season basketball is back.
I cannot wait. If you're listening to us, thank you
for listening. If you want to watch us, check out
our postgame lives and stuff. You can find us at
YouTube dot com slash at Clippers Podcast. We're gonna talk
about the starting five today, which seems pretty set heading
into the final preseason game that we'll be missing some
keykn trip. We're gonna preview that game against the Warriors,
and then I think Adam and I might disrupt the
DIP conversation because I think we're both bringing some heat today.
Speaker 1: But before we time.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Adam Osland, how the heck are you less
than a week away from Clippers regular season basketball.
Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm excited.
Speaker 4: One more preseason game tomorrow night. Still Clippers up in
norcl This is the calm before the storm, but I'm
not as calm because I feel like I'm walking on
eggshells right now because Restream screwed us about ten different
ways earlier.
Speaker 3: What an app? I think it's gonna work now, What
an alf?
Speaker 1: That's always a resounding endorsement of someone's app. What an alf?
Speaker 2: Certainly, certainly it exists. Glad you're doing well. I'm walking
on eggshells too, but I think just because I'm so excited.
Clippers won last night against the Kings, which was fun.
Big note from this game Jordan Miller started versus the Kings,
which to me and I don't think I'm the only
one given all the other stuff we've kind of heard
leading up to Jordan Miller being named the starter last night, specifically,
John Collins does not seem like he's going to be
starting for this team, which is totally fine for now.
It seems like he's not in the starting five. Agree
or disagree, adam Ouslims.
Speaker 3: I've been saying it for two weeks.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you all saw, but I saw
that Kawhi Leonard interview with Law Murray, and I did
an episode right after it came out, and I was like,
I think Kawhi may have just tipped their hand because
he said he thinks it's going to be similar to
last year when law was asking him about John Collins
and having a big like that, and you know his recenter.
You know, last couple of years, Kawi's made comments about
not wanting to play the four, saying I'll do it
until we get a real one. But it's honestly, how
long is ago was that now? Two seasons ago?
Speaker 3: It's been It's been a bit.
Speaker 4: Uh So when he said that I think it's gonna
be similar, I immediately thought, Oh, it's gonna be DJ
or done likely DJ. So yeah, it's it's DJ. That's
that's what I'm rolling with. Otherwise, now, if Bradley Beal
doesn't play Game one, then you know we're talking about
everybody's healthy, what the ideal starting lineup is for this team,
and what they want to roll with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone healthy, which probably won't happen. It's not happening now.
It seems like College will come off the bench, and
that's fine if he's okay with it. If you watched
the game last night, it's very hard to deny the
fact that a second unit of Chris Paul, Chris Dunn,
Nick Batoum, John Collins, and Brook Lopez that that's a
pretty damn fine backup lineup to have if you're the Clippers.
Like Collins can do some really interesting things in that lineup.
I wanted to share this tweet from justin w LA
Clippers film.
Speaker 1: You see it.
Speaker 2: He says, here open set where Collins is screening for
a small right at the rim, you don't want to
switch that because then there's an easy layup and Chris Paul,
who is Chris Paul, can nail the.
Speaker 1: Pass stuff like that, So we have.
Speaker 2: A lot of versatility. Lopez's range is unreal for this
second unit.
Speaker 1: We've seen it.
Speaker 2: I mean he bailed the Clippers out last night, making
the first three after the team went over six. I
am absurdly excited for this bench unit, and I think
that's just because not only is John Collins going to
be a great addition to this team, we have the
best backup.
Speaker 1: Point guard we've had in a very long time.
Speaker 2: Setting this all up, putting vets like Lopez and Batoom
in place for success. Like I'm I'm hyped for the
seconde of.
Speaker 4: Collins, best backup point guard in a long time, best
backup center in a long time.
Speaker 1: In a long time.
Speaker 3: As much as people.
Speaker 4: Want to freak out about John Collins not starting a
Kawhi at the three, uh, I'm gonna I'm gonna throw
this out there again, there's literally no proof that Kawhi
got hurt because he was playing the four towards a
cl playing the three. There's there's no proof that you know,
he runs more miles playing the four that I've seen
than he'd be doing playing the three.
Speaker 3: Being the president was.
Speaker 1: How negligible would that miles number be if you play
heavy minutes, If you're the number one on a team
and you play heavy minutes, I don't think the the
discrepancy and miles run if you're playing the three or
the four is that much.
Speaker 4: Well, it's the It's not about three or the four.
It's just about Kawhi. Can he level down and not
go as hard defensively? I don't know if you can
ask a guy to do that who's a two time
Defensive Player of the Year. This is how he's made
his bones in the league. That's how he got started
before his offense came along, so I really don't think
it's so much about the three or the four. Again,
James Harden was guarding Aaron Gordon a lot in that series.
People keep talking about Aaron Gordon like there's an Aaron
Gordon on every team. There's one Aaron Gordon. They played
him against Denver in the first round this time. If
they caught Denver in the first round, sure there's a
good chance John Collins could start in a series like that,
But over an a two game regular season where you're
seeing all these different opponents all the time, maybe just
go with DJ. Because having that point of attack defender
that's that good out there on the perimeter, and how
having always won of either he or Chris Dunn out
there that takes care of so much for you defensively,
Like having that stopper and that first line of defense,
everything else kind of falls into place. It is not
a fucking coincidence that they were top three in defense
last year when they got DJ and Chris Dunn. They've
had Kawhi for a while, they've had a beat to Zubas.
This is why when people say, oh, look how much
better beats to Zubas is he finished like sixth in
Defensive Player of the Year. I'm like, I don't think
Zoo got much better defensively. I think he had much
better people around him, so he was not asked to
do as much and make up for other guys' mistakes
when they get beat off the dribble on the perimeter.
Speaker 3: I think Big Zoo was Big Zoo.
Speaker 4: I think he's been like this for a while, but
people are noticing it more because the Clippers had such
a better defensive rating and that was mostly due to
their point of attack defense that got so much better
last year.
Speaker 2: And I like what you said about you know, DJ
or Done on the floor at all times, same thing
Lou said the other day.
Speaker 1: That's another tea leave to read of, like.
Speaker 2: We gotta have one of those guys on the floor
at all times, and they're not gonna start Chris Done.
Speaker 1: No disrespect to Chris Done.
Speaker 2: I was so happy to watch him steal a lazy
pass yesterday and do Chris Done things. But for this
team the way it's constructed, not in the starting lineup,
and if people are worried about oh Collins playing with
Harden or with Kawhi and things like that, Tyler's also
alluded to more lineups where it's gonna be Kawhi and
or James Harden with more bench guys. So we're gonna
see a bunch of machinations of this roster because we
have functional depth. Will talks about all the time. We
have a backup one, two, three, four, and five. We
don't have two backup ones and a and a backup
two and a half and then a backup five who
sucks at what the team really wants them to do.
Like we have functional depth in a way that TYLERU,
We're gonna see some ten games sample sizes, but like
it's just gonna be okay. I guess it's kind of
like you know what I mean, Like I trust to
figure this out right now.
Speaker 4: I'm not as adamant about you can't start Chris Dunn,
Like if they didn't have DJ, I think Chris done
starting would be a real thing on the time. But
it's so it's not that crazy an idea to do it.
There's literally one person in front of him, not like, hey,
you cannot play this guy, like uh, DJ gets hurt,
done skimped, like the idea.
Speaker 2: Hey, season hasn't even started yet. We don't got to
put that in the air.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well let me tell you, guys get hurt the
heava all the time, and we know that better than anybody.
I'm just saying, like, I don't think I don't know
you're telling about Thank goodness, no, Chris Done. It's like
to me, I'm like, I don't think that's I don't
think that's the way they see it.
Speaker 1: I'd be honest, Well.
Speaker 3: Anyone should see it.
Speaker 4: What I mean, probably the biggest differences between DJ and
UH and Chris Dunn. Like, I don't think there's this
chasm of difference between them. I think Dun's actually the
better overall point of attack defender than DJ.
Speaker 3: DJ's a little bit more versatile.
Speaker 2: That's what I That's what gets me is the versatility,
and on both ends is because done. As we saw,
if he's not hitting his shots, it's almost four on five.
I love Chris Dunn, but the starting five, if it
were hardened, beald done kawhi zoo. I mean the defense
is great, but the offense seems like it would get mired.
Speaker 4: I I mean they leave DJ open too, They're gonna
they're gonna challenge him to take three pointers. Like he
shot three percent better than Dun did. I'll Done might
have shot better than him in the playoff series.
Speaker 3: Dun shot thirty in the playoff series.
Speaker 4: Like I I just don't think it's that huge of
a difference. And if they have to go to at
some point, you know, I'm not worried about that either.
But maybe then you go John Collins instead if DJ
wasn't available and that option wasn't there last season. So like,
if you want to have one of those two guys
always because you want those point of attack defenders, but
let's say one of them is banged up, then what
do they do?
Speaker 3: That's interesting to me?
Speaker 4: And in that case, maybe it is John Collins, But
everybody shouldn't freak out too much about JC, like not starting.
Look at how the chemistry the second unit has. It's
almost making me think, like, could they do a full
line shift?
Speaker 2: Dude, I'm telling you, like it was unreal. And the
other thing the chemistry that the first unit has too, right, Like,
I think this preseason has been really cool to see.
The Done DJ connection is awesome, Like Zoo is great
at finding him on those cuts out of the role
and everything, Like I really like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't mean to be so harsh on Done.
Speaker 2: I just like Derrick Jones Junior a little more fully healthy.
Speaker 3: Because of the playoffs.
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe in the league team, I think people have
overdone it was how bad he was against Denver. He
shot thirty six percent from three. He actually shot better
than he normally. Does I know they were shrinking the
floor on them? He had open threes. Well, he's gonna
have open threes during the regular season. Two, so is DJ.
I do think DJ has a higher ceiling overall because
he's a younger player and we talked about it last night,
or like, yeah, but Done, like he was guarding Shengon
in games against the Rockets last year, like he can
guard up uh, but DJ what he was doing last night.
Throughout the preseason, he's been noticeably more aggressive with attacking
the basket and using that crazy athleticism and his his
skinny frame aim to get around guys like and his
his long strides. Like I think that's a that's got
to be a point of emphasis because they are getting
ready to have him in the starting lineup and they're saying, hey,
you need to be functional outside of just three point shots,
because if that's the only thing that you're adding on
the offensive end, and they're playing off of you and
you're not knocking them down, then it's a problem. You
gotta have some you gotta have a change up there.
And he can, he can slash, he can get to
the basket a little bit.
Speaker 2: And what he does too, he runs very quickly down
the floor and then James Harden can hit him with
a fifty foot pass. So that I think is kind
of the other part of his offensive game, right, that
they want him to do more like, hey man, you're
kind of you're our transition attack a little bit.
Speaker 3: That's that's true.
Speaker 4: That's a good point when it comes to hit ahead stuff.
Speaker 3: DJ.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's phenomenal in that area.
Speaker 2: I love this quote. Lot Murray had a great piece
on John Collins, I think came out today. But I
count this as a contract year quote. And I don't
mean that in a disrespectful way, but we hear guys
say stuff like this in a contract year and I
take some I feel good about this. He said, I'm
going to go out there and bust my ass every
day and if that doesn't reward me the starting spot,
then I'm gonna come out and bust my ass every
day off the bench, and I don't really think about
it any other way. I'm obviously he's doing an interview.
There's some context there, but like, hell, yeah, dude, it's
your contract year, show that you deserve a starting spot
Like this is great. It just feels like it's coalescing.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, there's only one thing I'm worried about, but
we might get into it a little bit later. But
he's saying all the right things, and if they're winning,
I just don't expect him to be making a fuss.
If they're playing well and he's playing well in the
second unit, what's the problem. It takes a real malcontent
to complain when the team is winning out there.
Speaker 3: I don't think John Collins is that.
Speaker 1: I think yeah, I don't think so either.
Speaker 2: It is funny because, and I'm taking this purely off
of preseason basketball, maybe him and Brook Lopez are gonna
split that six Man of the Year butt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be interesting.
Speaker 4: It could be like Lou Williams and montrez Harrow, but
Tres still ended up getting it. I actually thought Shrewder
probably should have got it that year. I thought that
was gonna happen, but I was happy.
Speaker 3: For Tres of course.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I think that's a good call. I do
think people should pump the brakes a little bit because
brook Lopez has been so hot for the outside.
Speaker 2: I gotta find them. He's not Russo posting them. But
it's just like, yeah, I don't think he should. I
don't think he's shooting.
Speaker 4: Whatever is the three he hit with Dario Sarge in
his face from distance from on the right wing last
night was like it was absurd, Like he's on He's
walking into the gym on a heater.
Speaker 2: Here's his preseason eight of fifteen from three plus fifty
throughout the games in the preseason.
Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah, thirty seven percent and above is fine with me.
And I think he shot thirty seven percent last year
from three?
Speaker 3: Would it? Would it be great? Now?
Speaker 4: You can say, well, it's a different role. He's going
up against more backups and second unit guys. He can
take advantage of that. And that's a real argument for
bringing out the best in brook Lopez now at the
age of thirty seven, So, I mean, I expect him
to be good, but shooting over fifty percent from three
like this is just unbelievable. I don't want to set
the expectations so high in Clippers fans Mines so that
if he's only going four of ten it looks like
an off night.
Speaker 1: What the hell is it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Clippers are also starting just zeitgeist wise, things
are coming back around to people being excited about the Clippers.
I've seen a bunch of aggregator accounts be like, loo key,
I'm excited to watch the Clippers play this year, and
it's like, well, first of all, get away from us.
We don't want this. We don't want this energy around us.
We want to We don't like it when people are like, hey,
maybe this will be the funniest championship ever. Bill Simmons like,
stop talking about that.
Speaker 3: I fine with that stuff.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I hate when people want to shy away from expectations.
Speaker 1: I'm fine with expectations, but outside people I just don't.
Speaker 3: And I don't because they hammer us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because then they're wrong and then they're like, well,
actually they kind of suck, and just I don't like
that inside expectations. Keep it inside the house. I'm fine
with discussing this inside the house amongst ourselves.
Speaker 1: The Probabs don't get to talk to us about what
we got going on.
Speaker 4: Problem is, if you're legitimately good, you can't that a
secret for long and eventually you have to play with
expectations and get used to it. And uh, pressures or
privilege is everyone loved saying lately.
Speaker 2: And the second unit has looked phenop So it's like,
all right, we are.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Rook Lopez is not going to be this good.
Second unit is not going to be this good all
the time. They've played three preseason games. One was against
a team for China, Like, let's let's temper expectations a
little bit. So if they do go out and win
the first two games against Utah and Phoenix, then start
to freak out and get a little bit excited.
Speaker 1: Then smash that over.
Speaker 2: Also, I have a bone to pick with stats ont
NBA dot com. They have one preseason game of stats
for the.
Speaker 3: Clippers, one at stats dot com and.
Speaker 2: Stats ont NBA dot com. The NBA site had one
game of stats for the Clippers. If you go to like,
you know, team stats or because I wanted to look
at it's like they've played three.
Speaker 4: For the court side app has them all U not
on the apps ESPN has.
Speaker 2: I'm using a desktop, dude, I'm using a dial up.
I got, I got a tower. I gotta turn on before.
Speaker 5: I get this bad baby gone this Windows XP Yeah,
these were the early oss Kawhi and Harden done for
the preseason.
Speaker 2: They will not play tomorrow against the Warriors. Zoo TBD.
But just sit zoo too, right, Like what more?
Speaker 3: I'm sitting to everybody, honestly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because because there's a two there's a two way
spot open. Guys are legitimately fighting for it. They've only
had four preseason games. Guys haven't had much of an
opportunity to young guys to prove themselves. I'd sit all
the starters unless Beal is ready to go and they
just want to get him some work.
Speaker 3: That makes sense to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna definitely talk about the Beal thing. How
we feel about Harden and Kawhi's preseasons.
Speaker 3: Kawhi's looked really good.
Speaker 4: Hart has been up and down and sloppy and careless
with the basketball at times, but he was in last
preseason two.
Speaker 3: I don't think he takes it that.
Speaker 4: I don't think he has the seriousness of I think
actually probably has the appropriate level of seriousness for what
precas basketball is. He knows the assignment, he's he's taken
more risks with his passes. I'm not overly concerned with it.
He has shown juice off the bounce, getting downhill, finding alleys.
He's looked quick at times. He got in his bag
a little bit. Last night had an and one. I
think he missed the free throw.
Speaker 1: But mid range jumper last night too, didn't he.
Speaker 4: Like he hunted it. It was like on the right elbow.
That kind of raised an eyebrow, like, is he going
to take more mid range shots again?
Speaker 1: I love how he takes one and we're like, holy shit.
Speaker 3: I know twenty thirteen hardness.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I Kawhi looks he's letting it fly from three.
So I don't know how indicative that is of what
is approaching me in the regular season, but I see
the legs are there right every time Kawhi has come back,
when he shoots that three and it's short, everyone goes, oh,
he's still working his way back into shape. And they
didn't have a lot of short ones, which is which
is good. So yeah, I hope they said zoo too.
Speaker 1: Maybe don't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Because Zo looked a little bit disengage or disinterested at
times last night, which is rare for him. But yeah,
I honestly think there was a come down after the
game the first half they played against Denver.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they they really got up for that one, and
I guess that's good practice. They Yeah, I'm a transition.
Defense has been a little just kind of on the whole,
not just for these three guys. It's just gonna be
an issue for the Clippers. Like no team is perfect, right,
it's it. Yeah, that's the weakness for the Clippers defense
right now.
Speaker 4: And again, last season they were like thirteenth best or
fifteenth best. They were like maybe a little bit above average,
and they had a couple of bad games against Denver,
so we overreact to it. Oh, they're an older team.
I agree with you some of this stuff. These are
built in problems. Everybody has their flaws, but you have
to make up for it in other ways. And I
think they're capable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are capable. God, I'm so excited for Clippers
basketball coming up. We're going to talk a little bit
about the game against the Warriors, who I don't even
know who the hell is playing in that game. If
you're listening, gonna be a quick break. If you're watching,
our faces are still here. I'm also just if you've
been watching and you're wondering why I'm growing out the
worst beard you've ever seen in your life, by it's
real bad my men's league baseball team or in the
World Series.
Speaker 3: So wow.
Speaker 1: I know, if we win this week again, we close
it out.
Speaker 3: But if not to you, then the Dodgers.
Speaker 2: If not, you will have to see this horrible beard
for another couple of weeks, which I do apologize for.
But yeah, we're gonna talk about Clippers versus Warriors, and
then I think we're turning the DIP world on its head.
Coming up after this audio breaking three to.
Speaker 4: One, welcome back in his Clips and Dip season four,
episode seven, I'm at a Moslim. He's Chuck Mockler. Will
is abroad. He's away for now. He'll be back by
the time the season starts.
Speaker 1: Uh theoretically yes.
Speaker 4: Okay, maybe he'll be in roots. Sure he'll be washing
it on a plane. Either way. We got plenty of
coverage for you guys here, including a tomorrow night's game
final preseason game. Clippers still in NorCal next up in
SF at Chase Center against the Golden State Warriors, who
they had quite the game eighty two against last season.
The play in to stay out of the play in
that was an all timer. Maybe that's that's one of
the best regular season Clipper games ever because it was
a ciseudo playoff game.
Speaker 2: Yes, I would agree with that. That whole end till
last season was absurd, and we saw that intensity brought
in game eighty two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were like twenty two and eight. The last
thirty games the Clippers went eighteen and three. The last
twenty one something had to give. Clippers got the victory.
Speaker 3: Harden was big.
Speaker 1: Yes, sucks to suck through the Warriors.
Speaker 2: How are we what's your level of concern for badly
being Do we want him to play tomorrow if none
of the other I don't mean this disrespectful the other
guys on the team. If if the majority of the
guys he's going to be sharing the court with are
not playing tomorrow, which we know for sure is hardened
in Kawhi, Just get him some run or.
Speaker 4: Like I if he's healthy, yes, like if there's no risk,
if he's fully one hundred percent, then I'd say yes,
because even though he won't be out there with some
of the guys who'll be starting with it at least
gets him little bit of rhythm and timing out there
in a five on five setting like that, because he
ain't gonna get another opportunity before the twenty second.
Speaker 3: I think he's better than nothing.
Speaker 4: I don't know how meaningful it would be, but I'd
still enjoy seeing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would.
Speaker 2: Selfishly, I'd be like, Okay, so he's definitely good to
go for Opening Night then, because.
Speaker 4: Into my brain, coach Lou said, if he's healthy, even
if he doesn't play a preseason game, if he's cleared
for Opening Night, he's still in the starting lineup. Yeah,
I mean, so he's not concerned about him getting preseason run.
That's not going to be critical or to be the
deciding factor of whether or not he's starting Opening night,
of course, but if he is healthy, why not if
it's not going to exacerbate anything, right.
Speaker 2: Just for the conditioning and whatnot. Do we know are
the Warriors playing everybody? I know Jimmy's out, which is hilarious.
Speaker 4: I saw earlier. I thought I saw Jimmy Butler's out.
At least he's oldest hell too, Yeah, they're the other team.
Like the Clippers said, like, hold my beer. I guess
with the age thing because the Golden State Wars are
pretty old themselves.
Speaker 3: They're right there, guys.
Speaker 1: Well, and the.
Speaker 2: Oldest player in the NBA, who also plays in LA
isn't playing until November.
Speaker 1: So hmm. Interesting. Functional functional wisdom is what the Clippers
are right now.
Speaker 2: We are functioning high functioning wisdom?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are we?
Speaker 2: I was kind of trying to write this game preview
out and I'm like, what what can't we take away
from this game? Just good process? Like also, Patrick Baldwin Jr.
Had his height change from six to nine to seven
feet today the NBA redid some guys heights and Patrick
Baldwin Junior's parked down as a seven footer.
Speaker 3: Now the hair grow out? What is that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I'd love to said like.
Speaker 4: Wemby got had an inch added to the seven to
four now at first it said seven to five. Yeah, whatever,
I will that help him get the two way?
Speaker 1: Why is it so hard to figure out how tall
NBA players.
Speaker 3: Are because these guys athletes.
Speaker 4: I remember this being in working in the athletic training
room at Biola University, and I'm looking through like the
game program for baseball Eagles Eagles, I remember working on
a pitcher and it said he was six one and
he's two inches shorter than me. And I'm like five
eleven and this is absurd. So all this stuff, I've
stood next to Jordan before. Jordan is not sixty six,
he's six'. Four like these measurements are out of.
Speaker 2: Whack whole episode where you have that Old kobe card
Where kobe's like it like.
Speaker 3: He was six to seven.
Speaker 4: Originally, yeah and a lot of people suspect that they
lowered it to six' six to have more that The
next jordan comp to make it.
Speaker 3: Even, closer man that's you.
Speaker 2: Know what, you know who should do an EPISODE on nba,
Players Heights. Pablo torri let's get an investigation.
Speaker 1: Into that.
Speaker 3: These are the things, that matter this is.
Speaker 2: WHAT matters I guess i just want, to see Like
Ken brook lopez keep.
Speaker 1: It up.
Speaker 6: They can't just, good momentum what do, you know not
obviously not like fifty points from three or something, like
that but just like like we're just hoping for, Good
process like this is going to be a.
Speaker 3: Slop, fest yeah it's gonna.
Speaker 4: BE bad i think this is going to be who
wants that final two. Way spot that's what this game
is going to. Be about and that's going to add
some intrigue, to it and that's gonna be the.
Speaker 3: Main, Storyline honestly flowers Just got.
Speaker 4: That's that's why there's a dangling two. Way spot he's he.
Speaker 1: Lost it so he was just fun To, Watch, dunk, like.
Speaker 3: Yeah maybe he'll.
Speaker 4: Come.
Speaker 3: BACK come i mean We Got jordan miller.
Speaker 2: CAME back i mean A mere coffee was on the
team like fifty times through different like two ways.
Speaker 1: And, whatnot.
Speaker 2: Yeah of the meaningful guys, who play, it's, LIKE yeah
I Hope john collins can find, a group, you know
like you just want Guys to like you were saying
in the early, preseason games it's the same thing our guys.
Moving well is the process theres or some kind of
like groove that can.
Speaker 4: BE maneuvered I thought cp three looked really good, last
night looked really good. Last night where did he have
nine or ten assists to? Zero turnovers? Like crazy and
he's moved. Really well i've been impressed, with him like,
WATCHING him I mean i remember watching him live all.
Speaker 3: The time his final season With.
Speaker 4: The clippers i'm not saying he's that, guy anymore but
he looks better.
Speaker 3: Than, forty yeah. He does he didn't look.
Speaker 2: That old it's, funny too because if you're a two
way guy who's fighting for a spot and your point
Guard Is, chris paul, pretty nice he'll find you right
like you make the. Right Decisions chris paul will make you.
Speaker 3: Look, good yeah that pick and roll.
Speaker 4: They ran i've been late, third quarter early fourth Quarter
With john collins rolling to the basket and he found him.
So easily it's, just, like man this is this is
a level of professionalism at this backup point guard spot
we haven't seen.
Speaker 2: In, years yeah the pick and Roll With john collins
going to the rim And Then brook lopez ready for
three on, the outside like last night the backup just
the hockey Change that tyler did where it Was Like,
Chris Paul, Chris Dunn nico Collins. And lopez, it's like
no Disrespect To, john collins but you take the other
four guys JUST defensive iq plus wisdom plus just.
Speaker 1: Knowing how to BE an.
Speaker 2: Nba player like it's not obviously it's not the. Most athletic,
you know backup, five scenario, a totality. Backup five but
it's the smartest. You're Not Like chris paul had that
steal early in the game where they, you know they
threw it down into the Post And chris paul just,
chipped off, you know nudged him and like it just
led to a. Transition bucket LIKE the iq of that crew, is.
Speaker 4: ELEVATED definitely i think the, main reason or one of
the main reasons They Like john collins with that group
is because so in football all, the time Your guy
mike McDaniels get athletes.
Speaker 3: In space it's Not working daniels working. So well.
Speaker 4: Why did a lot of coaches, Say, that well they
lost In my panthers and there's a lot on the
line in, that, game chuck and that was the big
turning Point.
Speaker 3: For, carolina actually.
Speaker 2: The Only winner Cleveland and miami play, this weekend and
the only winner at that is the alcohol manufacturers of this.
Great country those.
Speaker 4: Are the only People, in, Cleveland, right yeah factory of
sadness has never.
Speaker 3: Been sadder It's.
Speaker 1: In cleveland and there might be forty mile an.
Speaker 3: Hour wins Oh, good god and.
Speaker 1: Me because i'm going to watch. This game it's.
Speaker 4: Gonna help to push the ball down the field, pin
well but.
Speaker 1: What every, other quarter it's going to be coming right back.
AT him.
Speaker 4: I, Just Said john collins in space is what you
want with an athlete, like that so he can go
to work and. Reek havoc and that's what works so
well Next To brook lopez because he's hanging out thirty
feet away from. The rim it's just it's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 3: To See will.
Speaker 2: Hardy had some quotes On That law murray piece about
how he, felt LIKE which i, was like that's so
that he did some quotes for this where he felt
like the last Bit, in utah he, was like, you
know you, tell, guys oh we're only having you. Take
threes you strip away a bit of what makes them
basketball players and why they. Got there so now It's
like collins has room to use that Slashing if lopez
can draw the big out and stuff. Like that so
it's like contract To your collins is going to be
nasty with like You Mentioned chris paul.
Speaker 4: Organizing everything this is by far the best team he's ever.
Played with you can say that for a lot of
guys on, this Team but collins is in his prime
that he is.
Speaker 3: Poised to have a. HUGE season i.
Speaker 4: Don't know if he's going to be, able to, you
know have the traditional averages of a, huge season but
the efficiency and impact might be spectacular when you look
at a lot of the. Advanced numbers because they have
so many guys to play on. This team it doesn't
mean he's going to be playing thirty eight minutes a
night or anything.
Speaker 3: Like that it was how you normally view a.
Speaker 4: Huge SEASON but i just think impact wise plus minus
stuff when he's on, the court their, NET rating i
Could See john collins being spectacular in.
Speaker 2: Those areas oh the plus minus for this bench crew
at Sometimes like nico is gonna have a plus minus.
Speaker 1: At the end of. The year that's gonna be like,
holy shit you KNOW what, I mean like there's gonna, be.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah he were guy's never.
Speaker 3: A negative so that like think.
Speaker 1: About it You Have chris paul. Leading Everything nick batu is.
Speaker 2: The connector he hit a pass last night where he
got it kind of at the nail and then quickly
dumped It to lopez right and then put everyone. In
rotation it's that clip that's going around of just like
that Perfect Ball.
Speaker 3: John collins, Three.
Speaker 1: Dude yes like it's. Been replaced he's.
Speaker 3: Also been hitting.
Speaker 4: His threes, yeah heyes he ain't taking him like brook
but he's been hitting him when he does, WELL yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean Brooks taking, it's, like yeah why? Would you
you gotta let Him?
Speaker 1: Cook man? All right any nothing.
Speaker 2: Else About This clippers. Warriors preview everyone, get out just.
Wrap everyone and the.
Speaker 3: OTHER thing i am a.
Speaker 4: Little concerned you mentioned It With bradley beal if he doesn't.
Play tomorrow but, just overall everything else seems so set
up For the clippers to get off to a quick
start except, one thing And It's bradley beal and the
lack of reps he's had with, the starters and he
won't get them in the preseason because even if he,
Does play Kawhi And james harden. Aren't playing just wonder
if that could be the lone thing to hold them
back from really getting off to the.
Speaker 3: Quickest START but i.
Speaker 4: DON'T know i could also, See, IT yeah i could
see it. CLICKING quickly i didn't expect the second unit
to look this good, this fast with how many new
guys are playing next to.
Speaker 3: One another SO maybe i shouldn't worry.
Speaker 2: About it don't worry be happy as a PHRASE that i.
Just INVENTED so i know when.
Speaker 4: You say it, LIKE that i hear you, day like
don't worry?
Speaker 2: Be, happy, Yeah yeah i'm appropriating another culture's ACCIDENT when.
Speaker 1: I not? All right so now we get to.
Speaker 2: The, final wow this is the final dip segment of.
The preseason will's going to. Be pissed did he? Miss
this we brought the heat with dips. THIS offseason i,
WOULD say i think all of us did.
Speaker 1: A, great job.
Speaker 3: Like specifically hot dips, OR.
Speaker 1: Yeah i think.
Speaker 2: We did what what dip did? YOU bring i have
a bit of a? Curveball today.
Speaker 1: What did you?
Speaker 3: GO with i got A Real.
Speaker 4: UNCLE charlie i totally forgot that's another day. FOR curveball,
I Crazy. UNCLE CHARLIE i i didn't my uncle.
Speaker 1: CHEE chee.
Speaker 3: I didn't bring ONE because i thought the off season.
Speaker 4: WAS over i would who was the last dip? WE
DID i i thought it. WAS over i thought it
was an off.
Speaker 3: Season thing and we're PRETTY much, I mean i know it's.
Speaker 1: Pre, season, hey hey don't worry? Be, HAPPY man I
just i just. Invented, it no.
Speaker 2: You're fine the last dip we did was two. WEEKS
ago i did that the. DUNK dip i think it's called.
NO judgment, I however I think i have a curve
ball and this might. Not COUNT so i made Slow cooker,
italian beef.
Speaker 1: Which.
Speaker 2: IS phenomenal i just some. CHUCK roast i made My own.
Italian seasoning it's. Very easy AND then i got the spicy.
Jardin era and then so what's?
Speaker 3: The sauce you dip it the a what's it?
Speaker 2: CALLED earlier i don't want to dump this all over.
My computer, so anyway.
Speaker 4: SO yeah i thought that's what you were. Up to
you show me the sandwich and then you put it
out WITH like i know, this.
Speaker 2: Guy, and look if You're, FROM chicago i understand this
is a dumbed down Version of. ITALIAN beef i didn't
have two and a half days to like. Do whatever
I'm not i'm not discrediting. Your city this is this
is the RECIPE that i had.
Speaker 1: For my slopan.
Speaker 2: Cultural appropriation this is terrible on, my PART but i
will say it's one of the Best things i've made
in the. Slow cooker i'm a bit of a body
play when it comes with the. SLOW cooker i would.
MAKE this i will be making this at least like
between now And next. OCTOBER sixteenth i will be SURPRISED
if i don't make this three. More times if you
come To The, Super, bowl adam this will.
Speaker 1: Be there ten out. OF ten i would.
Speaker 2: Bring this to, a barbecue but it would overshadow whatever
barbecue we were AT because i would show up.
Speaker 4: With, twelve yeah there's that a hole bringing the good
as you sandwiches Again as italian ryd to out shine
us all the carne?
Speaker 1: Of sada would?
Speaker 2: You consider is azu a dip or is it only
A S c.
Speaker 4: They call what they call Like a, french dip so
it's gotta, be right but.
Speaker 1: It's it's one. Of. Those again this is for The.
Speaker 3: Patriot consistency is, pretty.
Speaker 1: Thin right we're gonna do three hours on this On the.
Patreon later but the.
Speaker 2: Consistency, is thinned and you only dip it With a
french dip Or an italian beef or something, like that
you KNOW what.
Speaker 1: I mean like if you order chips and dip and
the restaurant brought out your favorite chip and then a
little bowl of aju you'd, be like what the fuck
are you? Doing here maybe. IT'S regional i.
Speaker 4: Don't know it's not a versatile dip is a very specific.
Speaker 1: It's wet is the other part is it is a wet?
Speaker 3: Dip, DIP.
Speaker 2: Yeah i think IT'S a i think it's maybe city
and vessel. Dependent dip there's a lot of categories, of,
dips right.
Speaker 4: This is.
Speaker 1: A niche there's a lot of qualifiers for this to be.
A dip some things.
Speaker 4: It's kind of, YOU know i wouldn't consider soups, a
dip but you got the rich crackers, that, way right
that's one of the best. Things ever in, THAT case
i would say that is made to be, a dip
just like.
Speaker 3: THIS is.
Speaker 4: I think i think it's.
Speaker 3: Very specific do?
Speaker 1: You capize do you have a favorite dip of the
off season that we did or that you DID that?
Speaker 3: I did i have a favor that you did the yogurt,
OR no.
Speaker 2: I have i have removed the piece of my brain
THAT was i physically removed the piece of my brain
that remembered That the buffalo wild.
Speaker 4: Wing, sauce, yet Yes the asian zing sauce. With beef
using that with beef is. Really good not just.
Speaker 3: Chicken wings that. That, was yeah that was an.
Speaker 4: UNDERCOVER dip i think a lot of people have changed
their minds On the asian zing because of.
Speaker 3: That episode the. Legendary, episode, yeah.
Speaker 1: Hey the Tides. Of turn let Me check google trends
to see what what that was doing before and. AFTER
that i check. It out we'll always brought the heat with.
The dips they were always.
Speaker 2: Very involved one, of them he said he made an eight,
off camera which we didn't believe for.
Speaker 4: A second, Oh no like most of, the time when
he goes and just whipped something up, Really.
Speaker 3: Quick, i'm like what.
Speaker 1: Is this he's a, Great cook but.
Speaker 4: NOW do I wish i could have done THAT because
i totally? Forgot, mine YES so i will you caught?
Speaker 2: ME there i think the DUNK dip i did last
week with the blue cheese Instead of gorgonzola's.
Speaker 1: Up there, But also i'm not going to COUNT what
i ate today as. A dip but it was very.
Speaker 3: Good, too okay, all right, we.
Speaker 1: Did dude this was our best dip off. Season ever after.
Speaker 2: People clamored for us to cancel it after begging, for dips,
they said just. Cancel it, we said you missed the.
Last episode adam brought a great.
Speaker 4: Dip that put the chip on, our shoulder to which
we then dipped into one of our. Specialty dips it made.
Us better, the doubter, the detractors, the haters they made.
Speaker 1: Us better we will. Be back i'm we might do
a postgame.
Speaker 2: LIVE tomorrow i, don't know it depends how. THAT goes
I know, adam will So maybe i'll pop onto. That
game one of the regular season preview Is. On, monday
yes we have made it only one weekend to Go
until clippers basketball Happens. On wednesday hope everyone has a.
Wonderful weekend will is not here to, remind you but
we do appreciate. Your reviews we appreciate you listening. Or
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hardest job of all.
Speaker 1: One positive thing For this. Clippers team as.
Speaker 2: We head into the last Weekend without clippers regular.
Speaker 1: Season basketball.
Speaker 4: At point of attack defense is still on, the menu
Not Just charles's.
Speaker 3: French dip point. OF attack I was.
Speaker 4: ITALIAN beef i was incredibly concerned at one point this
summer that we're going to lose our identity and it's.
Not happening they're not gonna let. It happened they're not
just gonna let it be a, one off one. Season
thing they found something, Last year please stick with it
and then we can improve another area still which which
they have in spades.
Speaker 2: Another Year In van, gundi's defense it's gonna. Be awesome
we hope everyone has a. Wonderful weekend, stay safe Make some,
italian beef Get the asian. Zing sauce let us know
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Speaker 1: Season matchup and, as always we. Appreciate you Let's. Go
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