WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.520 This is Dan Kaplis and welcome to today's online podcast 2 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:05.719 edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to 3 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:08.240 give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind, 4 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:11.599 and to subscribe, download and listen to the show every 5 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:16.039 single day on your favorite podcast platform. All the beautiful 6 00:00:16.120 --> 00:00:17.519 day to do that. So it's going to be a 7 00:00:17.559 --> 00:00:19.879 little wet up and down the front range. Glad you're here. 8 00:00:19.960 --> 00:00:22.519 Three h three seven one three eight two five five 9 00:00:22.600 --> 00:00:26.120 the number d An five seven seven three nine to text. 10 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:29.679 Thank you Sheriff Steve and John Caldera for covering while 11 00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:32.520 I was in this week's trial. Really do appreciate that. 12 00:00:32.679 --> 00:00:38.119 And Ryan and Kelly obviously always the critical infrastructure, as 13 00:00:38.119 --> 00:00:40.719 we like to say around here, but so much to 14 00:00:40.759 --> 00:00:43.119 talk about. I've been dying to dive into this with 15 00:00:43.159 --> 00:00:45.200 you in my business. You know, when we go to trial, 16 00:00:45.240 --> 00:00:48.079 obviously it's a bubble. Everything else gets frozen out twenty 17 00:00:48.119 --> 00:00:50.640 four to seven. You're focused on that case. So I've 18 00:00:50.679 --> 00:00:53.560 been playing catch up today and it is amazing what 19 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:56.399 has been going on out there, and you would think 20 00:00:56.479 --> 00:00:59.039 it's going to cause a lot more Republicans to get elected. 21 00:00:59.079 --> 00:01:01.679 But we'll have that conversation as well, we want to 22 00:01:01.759 --> 00:01:05.359 lead with, of course, this public and I'll put battle 23 00:01:05.359 --> 00:01:09.120 in quotes just in case it's kind of staged between 24 00:01:09.120 --> 00:01:11.599 President Trump and Elon Musk. And one of the questions 25 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:14.359 for you will be do you think it's staged at 26 00:01:14.359 --> 00:01:17.000 this point? And if so, to what end one way 27 00:01:17.040 --> 00:01:19.400 or the other? How do you think it does end? 28 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:21.319 I mean, we all know it's going to end with 29 00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:25.879 a kumbaya, but how does that end? How does that happen? 30 00:01:25.959 --> 00:01:28.239 Three oh three seven one three eight two five five 31 00:01:28.599 --> 00:01:32.799 text d A N five seven seven three nine. I've 32 00:01:33.040 --> 00:01:36.200 indulge me one quick personal moment. I just I love 33 00:01:36.560 --> 00:01:40.359 Adam's County Courthouse. I love Adams County Court and just 34 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:42.680 so grateful to our jury out there and to all JERRYS. 35 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:47.280 Ryan picture this. Okay, seven thirty Monday morning. Okay, Monday 36 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:50.280 mornings are tough as they are, right seven thirty Monday morning. 37 00:01:50.480 --> 00:01:53.079 And I always I make it a point in trial 38 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:54.879 to be the first guy in the door of the courthouse, 39 00:01:55.239 --> 00:01:57.200 so I get there early, to be there when the 40 00:01:57.239 --> 00:01:59.040 door's open at seven thirty. How long do you think 41 00:01:59.079 --> 00:02:02.920 the line was at seven of jurors because they it 42 00:02:03.000 --> 00:02:05.640 turned out, they had our trial, which was an important trial, 43 00:02:05.640 --> 00:02:08.560 and then they had a murder trial. That line went 44 00:02:08.599 --> 00:02:11.360 on forever. I mean, I'll show you a picture. But 45 00:02:11.879 --> 00:02:13.919 so I'm walking up to the front door, and as 46 00:02:13.960 --> 00:02:16.879 an attorney, you know you can go in a side door. 47 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:21.639 You can completely bypass the line, and that line all 48 00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:24.520 these good people they're leaving their families, their jobs, everything 49 00:02:24.520 --> 00:02:28.199 else to go serve as jurors. So I looked at 50 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:31.039 that door, I looked at that line, and of course 51 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:33.719 I walked it seemed like two blocks down to the 52 00:02:33.800 --> 00:02:35.680 end of the line, and dutifully took my place at 53 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:38.240 the end of the line, as I should have. That 54 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:40.919 door should not be there for attorney, in my humble opinion, 55 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:42.960 maybe for the das who work in the building, but 56 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:44.319 the rest of us should have to go to the 57 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:46.439 end of the line. And of course that is what 58 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:50.039 I did. But very grateful for the outcome, hard fought case. 59 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:52.599 And it was funny I walked in today and we 60 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:55.960 have this wonderful front desk coordinator and she said, I've 61 00:02:56.039 --> 00:02:59.120 never seen you, Matt before, because she came for closing argument. 62 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:05.319 But it was a closing argument that required that honest, 63 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:09.560 righteous anger, and fortunately the jury you know, got the 64 00:03:09.639 --> 00:03:12.520 case right, as they almost always do. So grateful for that. 65 00:03:12.800 --> 00:03:15.960 Now, what's your stance on cameras in the courtroom, Dan, Oh, 66 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:18.120 I think they should be there. Yeah, I think they Yeah, 67 00:03:18.159 --> 00:03:19.479 I think they should be there all the time. 68 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:23.919 They judge Edo's what's the plight where judge Edo something 69 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:27.879 the pooch on that one, because otherwise we'd have him 70 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:30.280 standard but he abused it and it's just say it 71 00:03:30.319 --> 00:03:30.879 a bad name. 72 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:35.080 Are there a propensity? Is there a propensity? 73 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:39.520 Would there be a likelihood that judges and attorneys would 74 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:41.280 be playing to the cameras more? 75 00:03:41.319 --> 00:03:43.000 You know what I mean? No, that that's where itdo 76 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:46.240 distorted it. Yeah, because there'd been plenty in the court 77 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:48.840 cameras in the courtroom before I'd covered those trials, I'd 78 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:50.800 been in those trials, I'd tried a case with cameras 79 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:53.159 in the courtroom, and it just especially in this day 80 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:56.039 and age ran where you know, most of so many 81 00:03:56.120 --> 00:03:58.800 people now into their twenty and thirties, camera's not a 82 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:01.560 big deal. Grown up with the cell phone cameras, they've 83 00:04:01.560 --> 00:04:04.680 grown up with cameras everywhere, you know. For people older 84 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:07.479 than that, then oh wow, there's a camera there everybody says, hey, 85 00:04:07.560 --> 00:04:09.639 you see the camera there. Now people are surprised if 86 00:04:09.639 --> 00:04:12.400 there's not a camera there. People assume everything they do 87 00:04:12.479 --> 00:04:15.400 is on cameras. So if Judge Edo had not messed 88 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:18.600 up the OJ trial that way, then then cameras in 89 00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:20.879 the courtroom I think just would have been everywhere and 90 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:25.600 generally accepted. But after OJ, yeah, yeah, you're starting to 91 00:04:25.600 --> 00:04:28.040 see it a little bit more. And now many of 92 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:31.600 the courtrooms have cameras built in for the WebEx system 93 00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:35.480 that came in during COVID, and so it's easier to 94 00:04:35.519 --> 00:04:37.720 get a camera in the courtroom, and more and more 95 00:04:37.759 --> 00:04:40.519 trials are at least being televised that way, though it's 96 00:04:40.519 --> 00:04:42.639 not as good as having a TV camera in there. 97 00:04:42.680 --> 00:04:44.680 Do you think the Supreme Court of the United States 98 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:45.720 will ever have cameras? 99 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:51.560 Yes? I do, I do. They should, They should have already. 100 00:04:52.399 --> 00:04:55.759 The people deserve that. The people deserve that. And now 101 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:57.839 at least you get audio out of the Supreme Court. 102 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:01.639 That's relatively new. But give me break, it is all 103 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:05.439 those people, all those people work for the people, right, 104 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:09.199 so the people have to have access to that. They 105 00:05:09.240 --> 00:05:12.480 have to see what's going on, and nobody's going to 106 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:14.800 play to the cameras in the Supreme Court, but I 107 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:17.959 don't think they would in your typical case anyway. So 108 00:05:18.199 --> 00:05:21.040 I look forward to the day when that is the norm. 109 00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:23.839 My friend three out three someone three eight two five 110 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:26.959 five text d A N five seven seven three nine, 111 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:32.040 A couple of quick notes. Hugely important decision today from 112 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:35.439 Scotus and that is unanimous. I believe Judge Brown, I 113 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:39.319 think wrote the unanimous opinion. I've looked at the opinion, 114 00:05:39.639 --> 00:05:41.600 I perused it. I haven't read it the way I 115 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:43.560 would for one of my cases, or to really talk 116 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:46.000 with you about it in depth. But it's a tremendous 117 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:49.279 opinion for the United States of America because we all 118 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:52.680 know for this nation to be all that it was 119 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:54.720 meant to be and all that it should be, we 120 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:57.000 got to become color blind. I mean we've got to, 121 00:05:57.079 --> 00:05:59.839 and we're getting there. We're making huge strides. As much 122 00:05:59.879 --> 00:06:02.680 as some people try to create fake racial issues, there 123 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:05.639 are still some real racial issues. But we got to 124 00:06:05.639 --> 00:06:10.639 become color blind. And so this idea that Okay, it's 125 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:15.160 okay to discriminate against people of a particular race, but 126 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:19.279 not against everybody else, it's insane, right, So these vestiges 127 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:22.600 in the law that say it's okay to discriminate against 128 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:25.720 people who happen to be white. That's insane. It goes 129 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:29.160 against the whole idea we don't discriminate on race. And 130 00:06:29.199 --> 00:06:32.959 so another important decision along those lines today and a 131 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:37.560 real simple case, right, you had this nice woman happened 132 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:40.839 to be born white. She's working this job in Ohio, 133 00:06:41.560 --> 00:06:44.279 and then all of a sudden she doesn't get a 134 00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:48.120 promotion she apparently should get, and it goes to somebody 135 00:06:48.160 --> 00:06:50.439 I think in this example this case happened to be lesbian, 136 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:53.079 I believe, and then all of a sudden she gets 137 00:06:53.079 --> 00:06:56.759 demoted and another person I think, maybe another lesbian I'll 138 00:06:56.759 --> 00:06:59.639 double check the case during a break gets the position 139 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:04.079 over her, and she sues. And what happens is in 140 00:07:04.120 --> 00:07:06.360 the law in the sixth Circuit where Ohio is. There's 141 00:07:06.360 --> 00:07:08.480 some split in the circuits, which is how the Supremes 142 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:11.319 got involved in the law in that circuit. If you're 143 00:07:11.360 --> 00:07:15.120 a white person suing for race discrimination until eight o'clock 144 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:18.399 Mountain time today, you had to meet a higher standard 145 00:07:18.519 --> 00:07:21.319 to be able to bring your case than if you 146 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:24.000 happen to be a person of color and of course, 147 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:28.399 the Supreme Court said no, no, No, discrimination based on 148 00:07:28.519 --> 00:07:31.160 race is discrimination based on race. It doesn't matter what 149 00:07:31.240 --> 00:07:34.319 your race is, even if you're white. So very very 150 00:07:34.360 --> 00:07:36.879 good decision today for the United States, and so glad 151 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:41.879 it was nine zip Boulder. We got to talk some Boulder, 152 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:43.279 and I know we're going to talk about a lot 153 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:47.639 of Musk, trumpetc. And you know there's some real damage 154 00:07:47.639 --> 00:07:49.199 being done at the moment. Is it part of a 155 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:53.399 bigger play, But we've got to talk about Boulder because 156 00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:57.079 the reality is, and hopefully this will help open some 157 00:07:57.160 --> 00:08:01.040 eyes for these upcoming statewide races. Reality I think would 158 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:06.439 really be stunning to your typical Colorado Democrat Republican are unaffiliated, 159 00:08:06.839 --> 00:08:09.759 who I'm sure has no clue because they have real 160 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:12.920 lives that we've got a Democrat party and governor in 161 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:15.680 Colorado so out of control that they are actually and 162 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:20.639 this is provably true, they are out there actively recruiting 163 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:26.439 illegal immigrants to come to Colorado, actively recruiting them to 164 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:30.160 come to Colorado through the laws they're passing, and they know, 165 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:35.159 they know for a fact that among the illegals they 166 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:38.600 are recruiting to Colorado are going to be rapists, are 167 00:08:38.679 --> 00:08:41.799 going to be murderers along with the otherwise good people. 168 00:08:42.120 --> 00:08:45.639 They know that. Now, that doesn't mean they recruited this 169 00:08:45.759 --> 00:08:47.679 terrorist that they went out and said, oh, do you 170 00:08:47.679 --> 00:08:50.039 see this guy from Egypt and he's over stated his 171 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:53.120 visa and we know that he wants to go and 172 00:08:53.159 --> 00:08:56.000 he wants to burn alive as many Jewish people as 173 00:08:56.000 --> 00:08:57.960 he can. No, they didn't go out and say, hey, 174 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:01.679 let's recruit that guy here. But they knew when they 175 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:04.440 passed these laws, including come here, we'll give you a 176 00:09:04.519 --> 00:09:08.279 driver's license right away, right away as an illegal immigrant, 177 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:10.960 and the other things they've done to recruit they knew 178 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:15.320 that there would be rapist, murderers and a good chance 179 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:19.120 some terrorists among the otherwise good people who came. And 180 00:09:19.159 --> 00:09:23.799 they did it anyway. That is one of the most immoral, 181 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:28.240 one of the sickest, one of the most obscene things 182 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:31.919 that any public official, any elected official, any political party 183 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:36.759 could do. But they did it anyway, knowing you would 184 00:09:36.759 --> 00:09:39.799 have Coloraden's who would be raped, you'd have Colorado's who 185 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:43.440 would be murdered, and a real chance there'd be a 186 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:47.320 terrorism here, knowing that would be the result of their policy. 187 00:09:47.399 --> 00:09:51.519 Yet they recruited illegals here anyway they went. Think about 188 00:09:51.559 --> 00:09:55.279 how far out of their way they went to waive 189 00:09:55.360 --> 00:09:58.840 the banner and say to illegals, come to Colorado, will 190 00:09:58.919 --> 00:10:02.639 protect you, will welcome you, will help you. They're going 191 00:10:02.720 --> 00:10:05.679 to give you driver's licenses day one, and you can 192 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:09.320 use a nine year old I d yeah, that's how 193 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:11.440 sick it is. So will it open enough eyes for 194 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:15.320 this electoral cycle? I guess we'll find out together. But 195 00:10:15.399 --> 00:10:18.480 it does lead to the question why do you think 196 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:21.120 they do it? And again my point the fix. I 197 00:10:21.240 --> 00:10:23.799 just call it the capitalists proposal, but it's really not. 198 00:10:23.879 --> 00:10:28.759 Others had the idea before you pass the law that says, 199 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:32.200 all of a sudden, the victims of sanctuary state and 200 00:10:32.279 --> 00:10:36.200 sanctuary city can sue those governmental entities. Sanctuary state and 201 00:10:36.279 --> 00:10:40.480 sanctuary city end today. They absolutely end today. Pass that law. 202 00:10:40.720 --> 00:10:42.279 You're on the Dan Caplis Show. 203 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:51.120 And now back to the Dan capless Show podcast. 204 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:52.879 Big of this bill. 205 00:10:53.000 --> 00:10:55.759 He know it better than almost anybody, and he never 206 00:10:55.759 --> 00:10:58.559 had a problem until right after you left head of 207 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:00.720 you saw these samens you made about me, which I'm 208 00:11:00.759 --> 00:11:01.720 sure you can get for age. 209 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:06.159 It's very fresh Ponte. He said the most beautiful. 210 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:08.440 Things about and he hasn't said bad about me personally, 211 00:11:08.519 --> 00:11:09.639 but I'm sure that'll be next. 212 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:12.840 But I'm I'm very disappointed in Ala and I've helped 213 00:11:12.879 --> 00:11:13.600 a lot, a lot. 214 00:11:14.039 --> 00:11:15.840 Yeah, So what do you think? Way, what do you 215 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:18.759 think about this public battle? Who's right, who's wrong? Is 216 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:23.000 it staged? Is this for d chess? And how does 217 00:11:23.039 --> 00:11:26.120 it end? How much damage to the GOP or does 218 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:28.720 it end up being a plus for the GOP? Three 219 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:30.799 oh three seven one three eight two five five the 220 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:34.600 number text d A N five seven seven three nine. 221 00:11:34.600 --> 00:11:36.159 So if you just joined us, thank you. Were talking 222 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:39.440 about the big US Supreme Court opinion today standing for 223 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:42.919 the important principle that you cannot discriminate on race, even 224 00:11:42.960 --> 00:11:47.679 if it's a white person, very important for America, for 225 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:51.919 all people in America, regardless of race, And talking about 226 00:11:51.919 --> 00:11:54.480 how once again this horror and boulder we saw over 227 00:11:54.519 --> 00:11:57.000 the weekend is just a much and a horrific, much 228 00:11:57.039 --> 00:12:00.799 more visible example of horrors going none all over the 229 00:12:00.840 --> 00:12:04.360 state of Colorado because Jared Polis and the Democrats are 230 00:12:04.519 --> 00:12:09.120 actively recruiting illegal immigrants to come to Colorado knowing that 231 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:12.440 among those who are otherwise good people, there will be rapists, 232 00:12:12.480 --> 00:12:15.039 there will be murderers. Good chances there will be terrorists, 233 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:19.360 yet they still recruit them in large numbers. So hopefully 234 00:12:19.440 --> 00:12:22.799 the voter's eyes are opened. I wish that that horror 235 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:27.960 had never happened in Boulder. But again, when they're actively 236 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:32.000 recruiting illegals to come to Colorado knowing among those are 237 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:36.039 going to be some murderers, rapists, et cetera, think about 238 00:12:36.039 --> 00:12:39.200 the mentality they know. They know they are going to 239 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:41.240 be horrors like this, not the exact form, but they 240 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:43.120 know they are going to be horrors like this, and 241 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:45.559 polists and the rest of the Democrats they bring it on. 242 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:49.399 It is an acceptable casualty rate to them because they 243 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:52.519 know they're not going to be the casualties, and nobody 244 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:56.480 should be the casualties. Three or three someone three eight, two, five, 245 00:12:56.720 --> 00:12:59.879 five the numbers. So what do you think of the 246 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:03.519 trump elon Musk thing that's going on. Are you with 247 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:05.720 that crew that says, hey, you know that they've got 248 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:07.879 a plan here, this is all going to work out. 249 00:13:08.039 --> 00:13:11.000 Or is this thing just spinning out of control and 250 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:14.519 like a tornado, doing a lot of damage along the way, 251 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:18.519 some of which may not be repairable. Let's get a 252 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:20.679 little more President Trump on Elon. 253 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:25.960 But I'm very disappointed because Elon knew the inner workings 254 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:29.159 of this bill better than almost anybody sitting. 255 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:31.639 Here, better than you people. He knew everything about it. 256 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:33.279 He had no problem with it. All of a sudden 257 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:34.120 he had a problem. 258 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:36.480 And he only developed the problem when you found out 259 00:13:36.519 --> 00:13:38.159 that we're going to have to cut the ev mento, 260 00:13:38.279 --> 00:13:41.039 because that's bigions and billions of dollars. 261 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:43.919 And it really is unfair. We want to have cars 262 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:46.039 of all types electric. We want to have electric, but 263 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:46.799 we want to have. 264 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:51.480 A gasoline combustion, we want to have different we want 265 00:13:51.480 --> 00:13:52.720 to have hybrids. 266 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:54.000 We want to have all We want to be able 267 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:54.759 to sell everything. 268 00:13:55.440 --> 00:14:01.840 And where that was cut and Congress wanted to cut it. 269 00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:02.720 It became a little bit different. And I can understand that. 270 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:06.679 Yeah, So I mean, just to get your take on that, 271 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:10.759 I think it's unhealthy right now. I think it's unhealthy 272 00:14:10.840 --> 00:14:14.759 for the GOP. I think it's unhealthy for all of 273 00:14:14.840 --> 00:14:18.519 us who have Tesla in our for one case, right though, 274 00:14:19.159 --> 00:14:21.919 if I give you a stock tip to the exact opposite, 275 00:14:21.960 --> 00:14:24.759 that's the only thing that makes any sense. But I'm 276 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:26.799 probably ryan. I'm probably going to go out and buy 277 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:29.519 some more Tesla, you know, because I think it was 278 00:14:29.559 --> 00:14:32.799 down what fourteen percent today? Oh well, yeah, it's yeah, 279 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:35.240 And I know it's a volatile stock, but it's been 280 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:36.919 very good to me over the years, and I expect 281 00:14:36.960 --> 00:14:39.240 it's going to be very good continuing into the future, 282 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:41.799 you know, in a large part because of Elon Musk. 283 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:47.039 And but here's the thing, why is this all really happening? Mile? 284 00:14:47.279 --> 00:14:51.320 The best take I have on this is that Elon Musk, 285 00:14:51.600 --> 00:14:55.039 for his own business maybe even personal reasons, right now, 286 00:14:55.399 --> 00:14:59.320 he needs separation from President Trump. I wish it wasn't happening. 287 00:14:59.679 --> 00:15:01.960 I think he was very helpful to getting Trump elected. 288 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:04.559 We'll talk separately about whether you think Trump would have 289 00:15:04.600 --> 00:15:08.080 been elected without him, but he was very helpful. He 290 00:15:08.159 --> 00:15:11.879 can be very very helpful to GOP candidates across the country. 291 00:15:12.519 --> 00:15:15.200 And so, yeah, you hate to see this, but personally 292 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:19.120 and from a business standpoint, he probably feels as if 293 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:22.200 he needs a dramatic separation from President Trump. And I 294 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:26.080 think that's what's going on right now, and that's what's 295 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:30.600 playing out. And whether this is kind of All Star 296 00:15:30.679 --> 00:15:33.240 Wrestling where they've kind of gotten together and figured out 297 00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:34.960 how they're going to throw barbs at each other, or 298 00:15:34.960 --> 00:15:37.960 whether this is all just genuine and spontaneous. I think 299 00:15:38.039 --> 00:15:42.799 Elon Musk's goal is to get clear, obvious public separation 300 00:15:42.919 --> 00:15:45.000 from President Trump, and the only way he can do 301 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:48.360 that is through some sort of really ugly spot. 302 00:15:49.039 --> 00:15:51.519 This is a tantrum, though Dan I did not see 303 00:15:51.519 --> 00:15:54.679 this coming, and I think the thing that separates it 304 00:15:54.720 --> 00:15:57.879 from me from possibly being what in pro wrestling is 305 00:15:57.919 --> 00:16:01.080 called k fabe, meaning that the fall pretense of a 306 00:16:01.080 --> 00:16:05.360 few used to drive heat and viewers, et cetera. Is 307 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:09.279 this bombshelly drops that the reason the Epstein files and 308 00:16:09.320 --> 00:16:11.600 logs have not been released is because Trump's in them. 309 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:13.960 I mean, you don't go there. I think that's a 310 00:16:13.960 --> 00:16:15.559 bridge too far. And I think as a line he 311 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:18.480 crosses that you cannot uncross the bellow, that you cannot unring. 312 00:16:19.720 --> 00:16:22.919 It's a great point. Yeah, that's a great point. So 313 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:26.559 at this point it might just be what it appears 314 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:29.279 on the surface to be. Right now, Listen, I still 315 00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:31.320 think the starting point for all of this right because 316 00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:34.879 it started somewhere. The starting point I think is Musk 317 00:16:35.279 --> 00:16:39.080 felt he needed separation from Trump. He needed it for Tesla. 318 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:42.159 In his mind, he needed it for other reasons, probably 319 00:16:42.159 --> 00:16:44.960 personal as well. But yeah, you're right when it goes 320 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:49.279 to that point. Yeah, hard to come back from that, 321 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:52.360 and I expect we'll get a Trump response to that 322 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:57.480 as well. I don't believe for one second, not one second, 323 00:16:58.120 --> 00:17:00.519 that Trump is in the Epstein files any kind of 324 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:03.600 negative way. You know why, Ryan, Come on, we all 325 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:06.200 know it. If he was, yep, we would have known 326 00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:10.799 it during the twenty sixteen campaign, twenty twenty campaign, the 327 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:12.799 twenty twenty four campaign. It would have been front and 328 00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:16.799 center because who controlled the Epstein files the Biden administration. 329 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:20.039 That's exactly what I thought. Yeah, so I don't buy 330 00:17:20.079 --> 00:17:24.119 that now. Listen, I don't doubt that somewhere it mentions Trump, 331 00:17:24.160 --> 00:17:27.839 but not in any sort of inappropriate or sinister way. 332 00:17:28.480 --> 00:17:30.799 You know my understanding. Right, The mention of Trump, I think, 333 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:34.680 was that Trump had been informed by mar A Lago 334 00:17:34.759 --> 00:17:38.119 employee that Epstein had been doing something inappropriate, and Trump 335 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:40.319 banned him from the property. So yeah, Trump's name may 336 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:46.559 show up in there, but hey, speaking of that, George Clooney, 337 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:49.240 you know a broken clock. You know what they say, 338 00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:54.279 right twice a day? Is George Clooney actually write about this. 339 00:17:56.039 --> 00:18:01.480 Do you think Trump is a last beyond this term. 340 00:18:01.559 --> 00:18:03.480 I don't think so. I think it'd be very hard 341 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:06.759 to do it. Remember this land. Trump is a celebrity, 342 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:07.839 that's what he is. 343 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:10.200 I mean, he's got a he has a star in 344 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:12.640 Hollywood Boulevard. I don't have a star in Hollywood Bulevard. 345 00:18:13.119 --> 00:18:16.119 I'm not lobbying for one. I'm just saying, you know, 346 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:17.160 it seems like an oversight. 347 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:18.599 By the way, what's going on. 348 00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:22.920 He's a celebrity, and he's the President of the United States, 349 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:25.880 and so he has been elected, duly elected, fair deal. 350 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:28.319 I'm not complaining about that. That's how it works. That's 351 00:18:28.599 --> 00:18:32.160 how this democracy works. But he's also a celebrity, and 352 00:18:32.200 --> 00:18:34.960 he is charming, and to the people who like him, 353 00:18:35.240 --> 00:18:38.000 they think he's funny, too great. 354 00:18:38.039 --> 00:18:39.480 Many others they don't. 355 00:18:39.720 --> 00:18:43.000 And so when he is finished, and he will be finished, 356 00:18:43.079 --> 00:18:45.640 they're going to have to go looking for someone who 357 00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:49.640 can deliver the message that he delivered with the same 358 00:18:49.720 --> 00:18:51.240 kind of charisma, and they don't have. 359 00:18:51.319 --> 00:18:55.279 That is clooney, actually right about that. You're on the 360 00:18:55.359 --> 00:18:56.160 Dan Capla ship. 361 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:05.160 You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. 362 00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:11.160 President Trump elon Musk all out Ryan's right. Once Elon 363 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:14.519 crosses that line into Epstein file saying Trump won't release 364 00:19:14.599 --> 00:19:17.160 him because he's in them, then yeah, I think you 365 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:20.680 can be pretty sure this is a genuine bad blood. 366 00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:23.680 So how does it end? Where does it end? I 367 00:19:23.720 --> 00:19:27.279 think it's inevitable it ends with some kind of reconciliation, 368 00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:29.599 which may be behind the scenes because of my theories. 369 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:32.119 Right at the starting point for all of this is 370 00:19:32.160 --> 00:19:37.079 Elon Musk decided he needed a very public, credible and 371 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:40.440 I put that in quote separation from President Trump, maybe 372 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:43.279 for his business, personal, both whatever he needed it, and 373 00:19:43.319 --> 00:19:48.039 I think that's what generated this and maybe the obviously 374 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:52.920 false Epstein allegation, though maybe technically true because Trump's probably 375 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:55.079 mentioned in there in some positive sense, like he told 376 00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:59.240 Epstein to take a hike. Yeah, it is designed to 377 00:19:59.799 --> 00:20:05.359 help convince others that that, yeah, Musk has separated from Trump. 378 00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:08.039 So I think that's what drove all this. How much 379 00:20:08.119 --> 00:20:10.839 damage to the GOP, I think it could be considerable, 380 00:20:10.880 --> 00:20:14.359 because I do think Musk was very important and getting 381 00:20:14.359 --> 00:20:16.640 the president reelected. I don't think any of us will 382 00:20:16.640 --> 00:20:20.160 ever be able to say definitively whether President Trump gets 383 00:20:20.200 --> 00:20:24.200 elected or not without Musk's money, though I would love 384 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:27.559 your take on that. I think he probably does, but 385 00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:30.400 I think it's a lot closer, and I think that 386 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:33.759 Elon Musk was in a position to be such a 387 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:37.880 game changer, such a field lever, a leveler for GOP 388 00:20:38.119 --> 00:20:42.640 candidates nationwide. That it's another reason I'm sad to see this, 389 00:20:42.799 --> 00:20:45.319 so love, you're taking that much more to talk about. Obviously, 390 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:48.359 we're talking about the horror in Boulder and the blood 391 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:52.160 on the hands of the Democratic Party in Colorado and 392 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:54.759 the governor. And you know, I don't use that phrase lightly, 393 00:20:54.839 --> 00:20:57.599 but I use it here because it's true. And it's 394 00:20:57.799 --> 00:21:02.200 not only this whole or in Boulder, but it's across 395 00:21:02.240 --> 00:21:04.559 the state, in lots of cases that we never even 396 00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:07.720 hear about or see in the news, where somebody's raped 397 00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:11.759 by somebody here illegally, somebody's murdered by somebody here illegally. 398 00:21:12.119 --> 00:21:14.440 And again, you know, it doesn't mean that everybody coming 399 00:21:14.440 --> 00:21:17.599 here illegally are rapists and murderers. They're not. It's a 400 00:21:17.640 --> 00:21:20.839 small percentage who are, but any percentage is too high 401 00:21:20.880 --> 00:21:23.960