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Speaker 1: Thank you Sheriff Steve and John Caldera for covering while
Speaker 1: I was in this week's trial. Really do appreciate that.
Speaker 1: And Ryan and Kelly obviously always the critical infrastructure, as
Speaker 1: we like to say around here, but so much to
Speaker 1: talk about. I've been dying to dive into this with
Speaker 1: you in my business. You know, when we go to trial,
Speaker 1: obviously it's a bubble. Everything else gets frozen out twenty
Speaker 1: four to seven. You're focused on that case. So I've
Speaker 1: been playing catch up today and it is amazing what
Speaker 1: has been going on out there, and you would think
Speaker 1: it's going to cause a lot more Republicans to get elected.
Speaker 1: But we'll have that conversation as well, we want to
Speaker 1: lead with, of course, this public and I'll put battle
Speaker 1: in quotes just in case it's kind of staged between
Speaker 1: President Trump and Elon Musk. And one of the questions
Speaker 1: for you will be do you think it's staged at
Speaker 1: this point? And if so, to what end one way
Speaker 1: or the other? How do you think it does end?
Speaker 1: I mean, we all know it's going to end with
Speaker 1: a kumbaya, but how does that end? How does that happen?
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Speaker 1: indulge me one quick personal moment. I just I love
Speaker 1: Adam's County Courthouse. I love Adams County Court and just
Speaker 1: so grateful to our jury out there and to all JERRYS.
Speaker 1: Ryan picture this. Okay, seven thirty Monday morning. Okay, Monday
Speaker 1: mornings are tough as they are, right seven thirty Monday morning.
Speaker 1: And I always I make it a point in trial
Speaker 1: to be the first guy in the door of the courthouse,
Speaker 1: so I get there early, to be there when the
Speaker 1: door's open at seven thirty. How long do you think
Speaker 1: the line was at seven of jurors because they it
Speaker 1: turned out, they had our trial, which was an important trial,
Speaker 1: and then they had a murder trial. That line went
Speaker 1: on forever. I mean, I'll show you a picture. But
Speaker 1: so I'm walking up to the front door, and as
Speaker 1: an attorney, you know you can go in a side door.
Speaker 1: You can completely bypass the line, and that line all
Speaker 1: these good people they're leaving their families, their jobs, everything
Speaker 1: else to go serve as jurors. So I looked at
Speaker 1: that door, I looked at that line, and of course
Speaker 1: I walked it seemed like two blocks down to the
Speaker 1: end of the line, and dutifully took my place at
Speaker 1: the end of the line, as I should have. That
Speaker 1: door should not be there for attorney, in my humble opinion,
Speaker 1: maybe for the das who work in the building, but
Speaker 1: the rest of us should have to go to the
Speaker 1: end of the line. And of course that is what
Speaker 1: I did. But very grateful for the outcome, hard fought case.
Speaker 1: And it was funny I walked in today and we
Speaker 1: have this wonderful front desk coordinator and she said, I've
Speaker 1: never seen you, Matt before, because she came for closing argument.
Speaker 1: But it was a closing argument that required that honest,
Speaker 1: righteous anger, and fortunately the jury you know, got the
Speaker 1: case right, as they almost always do. So grateful for that.
Speaker 2: Now, what's your stance on cameras in the courtroom, Dan, Oh,
Speaker 2: I think they should be there. Yeah, I think they Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think they should be there all the time.
Speaker 1: They judge Edo's what's the plight where judge Edo something
Speaker 1: the pooch on that one, because otherwise we'd have him
Speaker 1: standard but he abused it and it's just say it
Speaker 1: a bad name.
Speaker 3: Are there a propensity? Is there a propensity?
Speaker 2: Would there be a likelihood that judges and attorneys would
Speaker 2: be playing to the cameras more?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? No, that that's where itdo
Speaker 1: distorted it. Yeah, because there'd been plenty in the court
Speaker 1: cameras in the courtroom before I'd covered those trials, I'd
Speaker 1: been in those trials, I'd tried a case with cameras
Speaker 1: in the courtroom, and it just especially in this day
Speaker 1: and age ran where you know, most of so many
Speaker 1: people now into their twenty and thirties, camera's not a
Speaker 1: big deal. Grown up with the cell phone cameras, they've
Speaker 1: grown up with cameras everywhere, you know. For people older
Speaker 1: than that, then oh wow, there's a camera there everybody says, hey,
Speaker 1: you see the camera there. Now people are surprised if
Speaker 1: there's not a camera there. People assume everything they do
Speaker 1: is on cameras. So if Judge Edo had not messed
Speaker 1: up the OJ trial that way, then then cameras in
Speaker 1: the courtroom I think just would have been everywhere and
Speaker 1: generally accepted. But after OJ, yeah, yeah, you're starting to
Speaker 1: see it a little bit more. And now many of
Speaker 1: the courtrooms have cameras built in for the WebEx system
Speaker 1: that came in during COVID, and so it's easier to
Speaker 1: get a camera in the courtroom, and more and more
Speaker 1: trials are at least being televised that way, though it's
Speaker 1: not as good as having a TV camera in there.
Speaker 2: Do you think the Supreme Court of the United States
Speaker 2: will ever have cameras?
Speaker 1: Yes? I do, I do. They should, They should have already.
Speaker 1: The people deserve that. The people deserve that. And now
Speaker 1: at least you get audio out of the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1: That's relatively new. But give me break, it is all
Speaker 1: those people, all those people work for the people, right,
Speaker 1: so the people have to have access to that. They
Speaker 1: have to see what's going on, and nobody's going to
Speaker 1: play to the cameras in the Supreme Court, but I
Speaker 1: don't think they would in your typical case anyway. So
Speaker 1: I look forward to the day when that is the norm.
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Speaker 1: A couple of quick notes. Hugely important decision today from
Speaker 1: Scotus and that is unanimous. I believe Judge Brown, I
Speaker 1: think wrote the unanimous opinion. I've looked at the opinion,
Speaker 1: I perused it. I haven't read it the way I
Speaker 1: would for one of my cases, or to really talk
Speaker 1: with you about it in depth. But it's a tremendous
Speaker 1: opinion for the United States of America because we all
Speaker 1: know for this nation to be all that it was
Speaker 1: meant to be and all that it should be, we
Speaker 1: got to become color blind. I mean we've got to,
Speaker 1: and we're getting there. We're making huge strides. As much
Speaker 1: as some people try to create fake racial issues, there
Speaker 1: are still some real racial issues. But we got to
Speaker 1: become color blind. And so this idea that Okay, it's
Speaker 1: okay to discriminate against people of a particular race, but
Speaker 1: not against everybody else, it's insane, right, So these vestiges
Speaker 1: in the law that say it's okay to discriminate against
Speaker 1: people who happen to be white. That's insane. It goes
Speaker 1: against the whole idea we don't discriminate on race. And
Speaker 1: so another important decision along those lines today and a
Speaker 1: real simple case, right, you had this nice woman happened
Speaker 1: to be born white. She's working this job in Ohio,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden she doesn't get a
Speaker 1: promotion she apparently should get, and it goes to somebody
Speaker 1: I think in this example this case happened to be lesbian,
Speaker 1: I believe, and then all of a sudden she gets
Speaker 1: demoted and another person I think, maybe another lesbian I'll
Speaker 1: double check the case during a break gets the position
Speaker 1: over her, and she sues. And what happens is in
Speaker 1: the law in the sixth Circuit where Ohio is. There's
Speaker 1: some split in the circuits, which is how the Supremes
Speaker 1: got involved in the law in that circuit. If you're
Speaker 1: a white person suing for race discrimination until eight o'clock
Speaker 1: Mountain time today, you had to meet a higher standard
Speaker 1: to be able to bring your case than if you
Speaker 1: happen to be a person of color and of course,
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court said no, no, No, discrimination based on
Speaker 1: race is discrimination based on race. It doesn't matter what
Speaker 1: your race is, even if you're white. So very very
Speaker 1: good decision today for the United States, and so glad
Speaker 1: it was nine zip Boulder. We got to talk some Boulder,
Speaker 1: and I know we're going to talk about a lot
Speaker 1: of Musk, trumpetc. And you know there's some real damage
Speaker 1: being done at the moment. Is it part of a
Speaker 1: bigger play, But we've got to talk about Boulder because
Speaker 1: the reality is, and hopefully this will help open some
Speaker 1: eyes for these upcoming statewide races. Reality I think would
Speaker 1: really be stunning to your typical Colorado Democrat Republican are unaffiliated,
Speaker 1: who I'm sure has no clue because they have real
Speaker 1: lives that we've got a Democrat party and governor in
Speaker 1: Colorado so out of control that they are actually and
Speaker 1: this is provably true, they are out there actively recruiting
Speaker 1: illegal immigrants to come to Colorado, actively recruiting them to
Speaker 1: come to Colorado through the laws they're passing, and they know,
Speaker 1: they know for a fact that among the illegals they
Speaker 1: are recruiting to Colorado are going to be rapists, are
Speaker 1: going to be murderers along with the otherwise good people.
Speaker 1: They know that. Now, that doesn't mean they recruited this
Speaker 1: terrorist that they went out and said, oh, do you
Speaker 1: see this guy from Egypt and he's over stated his
Speaker 1: visa and we know that he wants to go and
Speaker 1: he wants to burn alive as many Jewish people as
Speaker 1: he can. No, they didn't go out and say, hey,
Speaker 1: let's recruit that guy here. But they knew when they
Speaker 1: passed these laws, including come here, we'll give you a
Speaker 1: driver's license right away, right away as an illegal immigrant,
Speaker 1: and the other things they've done to recruit they knew
Speaker 1: that there would be rapist, murderers and a good chance
Speaker 1: some terrorists among the otherwise good people who came. And
Speaker 1: they did it anyway. That is one of the most immoral,
Speaker 1: one of the sickest, one of the most obscene things
Speaker 1: that any public official, any elected official, any political party
Speaker 1: could do. But they did it anyway, knowing you would
Speaker 1: have Coloraden's who would be raped, you'd have Colorado's who
Speaker 1: would be murdered, and a real chance there'd be a
Speaker 1: terrorism here, knowing that would be the result of their policy.
Speaker 1: Yet they recruited illegals here anyway they went. Think about
Speaker 1: how far out of their way they went to waive
Speaker 1: the banner and say to illegals, come to Colorado, will
Speaker 1: protect you, will welcome you, will help you. They're going
Speaker 1: to give you driver's licenses day one, and you can
Speaker 1: use a nine year old I d yeah, that's how
Speaker 1: sick it is. So will it open enough eyes for
Speaker 1: this electoral cycle? I guess we'll find out together. But
Speaker 1: it does lead to the question why do you think
Speaker 1: they do it? And again my point the fix. I
Speaker 1: just call it the capitalists proposal, but it's really not.
Speaker 1: Others had the idea before you pass the law that says,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the victims of sanctuary state and
Speaker 1: sanctuary city can sue those governmental entities. Sanctuary state and
Speaker 1: sanctuary city end today. They absolutely end today. Pass that law.
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Speaker 4: Big of this bill.
Speaker 5: He know it better than almost anybody, and he never
Speaker 5: had a problem until right after you left head of
Speaker 5: you saw these samens you made about me, which I'm
Speaker 5: sure you can get for age.
Speaker 4: It's very fresh Ponte. He said the most beautiful.
Speaker 5: Things about and he hasn't said bad about me personally,
Speaker 5: but I'm sure that'll be next.
Speaker 4: But I'm I'm very disappointed in Ala and I've helped
Speaker 4: a lot, a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what do you think? Way, what do you
Speaker 1: think about this public battle? Who's right, who's wrong? Is
Speaker 1: it staged? Is this for d chess? And how does
Speaker 1: it end? How much damage to the GOP or does
Speaker 1: it end up being a plus for the GOP? Three
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Speaker 1: So if you just joined us, thank you. Were talking
Speaker 1: about the big US Supreme Court opinion today standing for
Speaker 1: the important principle that you cannot discriminate on race, even
Speaker 1: if it's a white person, very important for America, for
Speaker 1: all people in America, regardless of race, And talking about
Speaker 1: how once again this horror and boulder we saw over
Speaker 1: the weekend is just a much and a horrific, much
Speaker 1: more visible example of horrors going none all over the
Speaker 1: state of Colorado because Jared Polis and the Democrats are
Speaker 1: actively recruiting illegal immigrants to come to Colorado knowing that
Speaker 1: among those who are otherwise good people, there will be rapists,
Speaker 1: there will be murderers. Good chances there will be terrorists,
Speaker 1: yet they still recruit them in large numbers. So hopefully
Speaker 1: the voter's eyes are opened. I wish that that horror
Speaker 1: had never happened in Boulder. But again, when they're actively
Speaker 1: recruiting illegals to come to Colorado knowing among those are
Speaker 1: going to be some murderers, rapists, et cetera, think about
Speaker 1: the mentality they know. They know they are going to
Speaker 1: be horrors like this, not the exact form, but they
Speaker 1: know they are going to be horrors like this, and
Speaker 1: polists and the rest of the Democrats they bring it on.
Speaker 1: It is an acceptable casualty rate to them because they
Speaker 1: know they're not going to be the casualties, and nobody
Speaker 1: should be the casualties. Three or three someone three eight, two, five,
Speaker 1: five the numbers. So what do you think of the
Speaker 1: trump elon Musk thing that's going on. Are you with
Speaker 1: that crew that says, hey, you know that they've got
Speaker 1: a plan here, this is all going to work out.
Speaker 1: Or is this thing just spinning out of control and
Speaker 1: like a tornado, doing a lot of damage along the way,
Speaker 1: some of which may not be repairable. Let's get a
Speaker 1: little more President Trump on Elon.
Speaker 5: But I'm very disappointed because Elon knew the inner workings
Speaker 5: of this bill better than almost anybody sitting.
Speaker 4: Here, better than you people. He knew everything about it.
Speaker 4: He had no problem with it. All of a sudden
Speaker 4: he had a problem.
Speaker 5: And he only developed the problem when you found out
Speaker 5: that we're going to have to cut the ev mento,
Speaker 5: because that's bigions and billions of dollars.
Speaker 4: And it really is unfair. We want to have cars
Speaker 4: of all types electric. We want to have electric, but
Speaker 4: we want to have.
Speaker 5: A gasoline combustion, we want to have different we want
Speaker 5: to have hybrids.
Speaker 4: We want to have all We want to be able
Speaker 4: to sell everything.
Speaker 5: And where that was cut and Congress wanted to cut it.
Speaker 4: It became a little bit different. And I can understand that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean, just to get your take on that,
Speaker 1: I think it's unhealthy right now. I think it's unhealthy
Speaker 1: for the GOP. I think it's unhealthy for all of
Speaker 1: us who have Tesla in our for one case, right though,
Speaker 1: if I give you a stock tip to the exact opposite,
Speaker 1: that's the only thing that makes any sense. But I'm
Speaker 1: probably ryan. I'm probably going to go out and buy
Speaker 1: some more Tesla, you know, because I think it was
Speaker 1: down what fourteen percent today? Oh well, yeah, it's yeah,
Speaker 1: And I know it's a volatile stock, but it's been
Speaker 1: very good to me over the years, and I expect
Speaker 1: it's going to be very good continuing into the future,
Speaker 1: you know, in a large part because of Elon Musk.
Speaker 1: And but here's the thing, why is this all really happening? Mile?
Speaker 1: The best take I have on this is that Elon Musk,
Speaker 1: for his own business maybe even personal reasons, right now,
Speaker 1: he needs separation from President Trump. I wish it wasn't happening.
Speaker 1: I think he was very helpful to getting Trump elected.
Speaker 1: We'll talk separately about whether you think Trump would have
Speaker 1: been elected without him, but he was very helpful. He
Speaker 1: can be very very helpful to GOP candidates across the country.
Speaker 1: And so, yeah, you hate to see this, but personally
Speaker 1: and from a business standpoint, he probably feels as if
Speaker 1: he needs a dramatic separation from President Trump. And I
Speaker 1: think that's what's going on right now, and that's what's
Speaker 1: playing out. And whether this is kind of All Star
Speaker 1: Wrestling where they've kind of gotten together and figured out
Speaker 1: how they're going to throw barbs at each other, or
Speaker 1: whether this is all just genuine and spontaneous. I think
Speaker 1: Elon Musk's goal is to get clear, obvious public separation
Speaker 1: from President Trump, and the only way he can do
Speaker 1: that is through some sort of really ugly spot.
Speaker 2: This is a tantrum, though Dan I did not see
Speaker 2: this coming, and I think the thing that separates it
Speaker 2: from me from possibly being what in pro wrestling is
Speaker 2: called k fabe, meaning that the fall pretense of a
Speaker 2: few used to drive heat and viewers, et cetera. Is
Speaker 2: this bombshelly drops that the reason the Epstein files and
Speaker 2: logs have not been released is because Trump's in them.
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't go there. I think that's a
Speaker 2: bridge too far. And I think as a line he
Speaker 2: crosses that you cannot uncross the bellow, that you cannot unring.
Speaker 1: It's a great point. Yeah, that's a great point. So
Speaker 1: at this point it might just be what it appears
Speaker 1: on the surface to be. Right now, Listen, I still
Speaker 1: think the starting point for all of this right because
Speaker 1: it started somewhere. The starting point I think is Musk
Speaker 1: felt he needed separation from Trump. He needed it for Tesla.
Speaker 1: In his mind, he needed it for other reasons, probably
Speaker 1: personal as well. But yeah, you're right when it goes
Speaker 1: to that point. Yeah, hard to come back from that,
Speaker 1: and I expect we'll get a Trump response to that
Speaker 1: as well. I don't believe for one second, not one second,
Speaker 1: that Trump is in the Epstein files any kind of
Speaker 1: negative way. You know why, Ryan, Come on, we all
Speaker 1: know it. If he was, yep, we would have known
Speaker 1: it during the twenty sixteen campaign, twenty twenty campaign, the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four campaign. It would have been front and
Speaker 1: center because who controlled the Epstein files the Biden administration.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I thought. Yeah, so I don't buy
Speaker 1: that now. Listen, I don't doubt that somewhere it mentions Trump,
Speaker 1: but not in any sort of inappropriate or sinister way.
Speaker 1: You know my understanding. Right, The mention of Trump, I think,
Speaker 1: was that Trump had been informed by mar A Lago
Speaker 1: employee that Epstein had been doing something inappropriate, and Trump
Speaker 1: banned him from the property. So yeah, Trump's name may
Speaker 1: show up in there, but hey, speaking of that, George Clooney,
Speaker 1: you know a broken clock. You know what they say,
Speaker 1: right twice a day? Is George Clooney actually write about this.
Speaker 1: Do you think Trump is a last beyond this term.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think it'd be very hard
Speaker 1: to do it. Remember this land. Trump is a celebrity,
Speaker 1: that's what he is.
Speaker 6: I mean, he's got a he has a star in
Speaker 6: Hollywood Boulevard. I don't have a star in Hollywood Bulevard.
Speaker 6: I'm not lobbying for one. I'm just saying, you know,
Speaker 6: it seems like an oversight.
Speaker 1: By the way, what's going on.
Speaker 6: He's a celebrity, and he's the President of the United States,
Speaker 6: and so he has been elected, duly elected, fair deal.
Speaker 6: I'm not complaining about that. That's how it works. That's
Speaker 6: how this democracy works. But he's also a celebrity, and
Speaker 6: he is charming, and to the people who like him,
Speaker 6: they think he's funny, too great.
Speaker 1: Many others they don't.
Speaker 6: And so when he is finished, and he will be finished,
Speaker 6: they're going to have to go looking for someone who
Speaker 6: can deliver the message that he delivered with the same
Speaker 6: kind of charisma, and they don't have.
Speaker 1: That is clooney, actually right about that. You're on the
Speaker 1: Dan Capla ship.
Speaker 3: You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1: President Trump elon Musk all out Ryan's right. Once Elon
Speaker 1: crosses that line into Epstein file saying Trump won't release
Speaker 1: him because he's in them, then yeah, I think you
Speaker 1: can be pretty sure this is a genuine bad blood.
Speaker 1: So how does it end? Where does it end? I
Speaker 1: think it's inevitable it ends with some kind of reconciliation,
Speaker 1: which may be behind the scenes because of my theories.
Speaker 1: Right at the starting point for all of this is
Speaker 1: Elon Musk decided he needed a very public, credible and
Speaker 1: I put that in quote separation from President Trump, maybe
Speaker 1: for his business, personal, both whatever he needed it, and
Speaker 1: I think that's what generated this and maybe the obviously
Speaker 1: false Epstein allegation, though maybe technically true because Trump's probably
Speaker 1: mentioned in there in some positive sense, like he told
Speaker 1: Epstein to take a hike. Yeah, it is designed to
Speaker 1: help convince others that that, yeah, Musk has separated from Trump.
Speaker 1: So I think that's what drove all this. How much
Speaker 1: damage to the GOP, I think it could be considerable,
Speaker 1: because I do think Musk was very important and getting
Speaker 1: the president reelected. I don't think any of us will
Speaker 1: ever be able to say definitively whether President Trump gets
Speaker 1: elected or not without Musk's money, though I would love
Speaker 1: your take on that. I think he probably does, but
Speaker 1: I think it's a lot closer, and I think that
Speaker 1: Elon Musk was in a position to be such a
Speaker 1: game changer, such a field lever, a leveler for GOP
Speaker 1: candidates nationwide. That it's another reason I'm sad to see this,
Speaker 1: so love, you're taking that much more to talk about. Obviously,
Speaker 1: we're talking about the horror in Boulder and the blood
Speaker 1: on the hands of the Democratic Party in Colorado and
Speaker 1: the governor. And you know, I don't use that phrase lightly,
Speaker 1: but I use it here because it's true. And it's
Speaker 1: not only this whole or in Boulder, but it's across
Speaker 1: the state, in lots of cases that we never even
Speaker 1: hear about or see in the news, where somebody's raped
Speaker 1: by somebody here illegally, somebody's murdered by somebody here illegally.
Speaker 1: And again, you know, it doesn't mean that everybody coming
Speaker 1: here illegally are rapists and murderers. They're not. It's a
Speaker 1: small percentage who are, but any percentage is too high
Speaker 1: a percentage. And that's the point is that Polis and
Speaker 1: the Democrats know when they're out actively recruiting, and that's
Speaker 1: what they're doing with these laws, waving the banner, actively
Speaker 1: recruiting people here illegally to come to Colorado that there's
Speaker 1: going to be a certain percentage of a rapist. They
Speaker 1: know when they pass these laws that it will lead
Speaker 1: to Colorado women being raped, it will lead to Colorado
Speaker 1: people being murdered, It'll be lead to Colorado people being
Speaker 1: unnecessarily slaughtered on the roadways. They know it may lead
Speaker 1: to terrorism, and they do it anyway, all for their
Speaker 1: own political gain. I mean that not every political difference
Speaker 1: is a moral difference. This is profoundly immoral what they've
Speaker 1: been doing because they know the price of the political
Speaker 1: benefit they get from attracting illegals to Colorado is going
Speaker 1: to be real, live innocent people raped, murdered in this case,
Speaker 1: set on fire, and they recruit anyway. Okay, you think
Speaker 1: ran is They're going to come a point is something
Speaker 1: like this horror Boulder at tipping point where voters' eyes
Speaker 1: get opened and they say, no, no, we can't do
Speaker 1: this anymore. Even if I don't like the Republicans, we
Speaker 1: can't do this anymore.
Speaker 2: Well, and thanks for teeing up that segue potentially for
Speaker 2: me here. But you gotta hear the words of film
Speaker 2: none the Wiser on CNN with John Berman on this
Speaker 2: very issue.
Speaker 3: It will knock your socks off, and not in a
Speaker 3: good way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and you know, fascinating. I'm glad you flagged
Speaker 1: that sound this morning because Wiser, now, if he's serious
Speaker 1: about trying to compete in the governor's race, and I
Speaker 1: don't think he is. I think he's just positioning to
Speaker 1: try to have enough leverage to get Bennett's Senate seat
Speaker 1: from Bennett when they all assume Bennett wins the governor's race.
Speaker 1: Seems like some chicken countant to me. But yeah, here's
Speaker 1: what Wiser had to say in part. Let me first
Speaker 1: ask you about that federal decision to detain the family
Speaker 1: and apparently very shortly to remove them from the United States.
Speaker 1: What is your view of that.
Speaker 7: My view is it's critical that our immigration system work
Speaker 7: under the rule of law, according everyone due process of law.
Speaker 7: Expedite and removal is a rare, but it's a constitutional procedure.
Speaker 7: The critical fact of our immigration system is we have
Speaker 7: a backlog of over a million people who've gone through
Speaker 7: procedures like this who haven't yet actually been deported. That's
Speaker 7: where our focus should be when we talk about immigration.
Speaker 1: Well, what the hell's he talking about? He acknowledges expedited
Speaker 1: is constitutional. How can you ever get a more obvious
Speaker 1: need for expedited than the family of a terrorist, who
Speaker 1: in the right mind would want to leave mare. First,
Speaker 1: they're here illegally, they shouldn't be here. And how in
Speaker 1: the world, and we got to get to the bottom
Speaker 1: of this, how in the world did the Polish slash
Speaker 1: Biden administrations leave him here after he legally tried to
Speaker 1: buy a gun? I thought that was their holy grail. Right,
Speaker 1: we have to have all these kids unnecessarily slaughtered in
Speaker 1: schools because the Democrats. The Democrats hate people with the gun,
Speaker 1: good guys and girls with the gun, more than they
Speaker 1: love children. So we can't have good guys and girls
Speaker 1: with guns in schools protecting the kids from mass shooters
Speaker 1: because Democrats hate guns above all. But they're going to
Speaker 1: let illegal immigrants have guns. How was he allowed to stay?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 1: Some more wiser here by the way, that first answer,
Speaker 1: I think a very not ready for prime time kind
Speaker 1: of answered. And you would support that removal if it
Speaker 1: goes forward under due process.
Speaker 7: The important part about your process is if someone has
Speaker 7: a basis to stay here, they have a legitimate claim
Speaker 7: for asylum, that's a threatened that's going to get evaluated
Speaker 7: by an independent fact finder. And that's how our immigration
Speaker 7: system should work. If you work based on the facts,
Speaker 7: based on the law, it shouldn't be targeting people in
Speaker 7: ways that are hap hazard, in ways that deny you process,
Speaker 7: or in ways that are based on fear, not based
Speaker 7: on fact.
Speaker 1: How can anybody with a straight face try to make
Speaker 1: that argument. Wait a second, The father and the family
Speaker 1: just went up to Boulder to mass murder people. You
Speaker 1: know that is a family which has had a terrorist
Speaker 1: in the middle of the family as the head of
Speaker 1: the household. What sane person could argue for a second
Speaker 1: that that family should be allowed to stay. Are you
Speaker 1: saying this is hap hazard or based on fear.
Speaker 7: This is a procedure that's been used before, an expot
Speaker 7: at a procedure, And the point is they may have
Speaker 7: a claim for asylum, they may not. That'll get decided
Speaker 7: by the data process, and that's how it should work.
Speaker 1: You know what that tells you that there's real hope
Speaker 1: for the GOP in Colorado. Not because he's going to
Speaker 1: be the DEM nominee he's not right, but because it
Speaker 1: shows you how in the grip of the psycho crazy
Speaker 1: far left radicals with big money, the Colorado Democratic Party
Speaker 1: is including our own attorney general because really, I mean,
Speaker 1: this guy clerk for US Supreme Court justices. He can't
Speaker 1: possibly believe what he's saying, but he's got to appeal
Speaker 1: to that crazy fringe far left that controls the party here,
Speaker 1: so he's willing to say that stuff. You know, it
Speaker 1: creates a much more dangerous state. But the silver lining
Speaker 1: is it gives the GOP and opening here Wow three
Speaker 1: h three someone three eight two five five the number
Speaker 1: text d A N five seven seven three nine in
Speaker 1: the end, be very interesting to see, Ryan. And there
Speaker 1: may have been some late breaking news on that I'm
Speaker 1: getting ready for my next job, but I haven't seen
Speaker 1: any anything definitive yet on who was it? Who was
Speaker 1: it who found out that this illegal immigrant tried to
Speaker 1: buy a gun and then didn't act on it? Is
Speaker 1: that Polis's Colorado government or did they act on it
Speaker 1: and then Biden decided to give him a pass the
Speaker 1: Biden administration?
Speaker 3: Or is it both.
Speaker 1: But we have got to get to the bottom of that.
Speaker 1: So let me get back to this Clooney thing for
Speaker 1: a minute. If you just joined us, Thank you, George
Speaker 1: Clooney obviously wrong about so much, and thank goodness because
Speaker 1: he helped Democrats lose. But this business about whether trump Ism,
Speaker 1: as he calls it, will last beyond this first term?
Speaker 1: Is he right about that? Do you think trump Ism
Speaker 1: lasts beyond this term?
Speaker 6: Don't think so. I think it'd be very hard to
Speaker 6: do it. Remember this, dol Trump is a celebrity, That's what.
Speaker 1: And then he goes on with his garbage choice. Second,
Speaker 1: how you could say the same thing about Reagan He
Speaker 1: ended up being one of the best US president and
Speaker 1: says Trump has been. But is he right? And I
Speaker 1: do want to launch on that when we come back,
Speaker 1: because I have some very strong feelings on this. I
Speaker 1: think the GOP, while in a very good position in
Speaker 1: some ways, is in very very dangerous territory in others,
Speaker 1: because I think there's a real danger that what Clooney
Speaker 1: is saying in this one case broken clocks right twice
Speaker 1: a day in this one case, he may well be
Speaker 1: right here In the Dankapla show.
Speaker 3: And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 5: And he never had a problem until right after you left.
Speaker 5: How have you saw these savans he made about me,
Speaker 5: which I'm sure you can get very it's very fresh.
Speaker 4: He said the most beautiful.
Speaker 5: Things about me, and he hasn't said bad about me personally,
Speaker 5: but I'm sure that'll be next.
Speaker 4: But I'm very disappointed. In a lot. I've helped you
Speaker 4: a lot, a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gotten personal, that's for sure. Playing the Epstein
Speaker 1: art saying that that's why Trump won't release the Epstein files,
Speaker 1: because he's in them. And then we have a texter
Speaker 1: who says, Elon Mosk better hope that Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: in the Epstein filess or he's going to owe Donald
Speaker 1: Trump a lot of money.
Speaker 4: Was in.
Speaker 1: Musk is a smart guy. So this we know, right,
Speaker 1: We know two things for sure. One is that Trump
Speaker 1: did nothing wrong when it comes to Epstein. We know
Speaker 1: that to one hundred percent certainty because if he had
Speaker 1: we know it already, right who controlled the Epstein files,
Speaker 1: right the Biden administration. So yeah, we know that Trump
Speaker 1: did not do anything wrong when it came to Epstein.
Speaker 1: But his name probably does appear in the files in
Speaker 1: another context, such as when he told banned Epstein from
Speaker 1: mar A Lago because I think it was somebody in
Speaker 1: the spot said Epstein was acting inappropriate at least. So yes,
Speaker 1: uh Musk is protected because Trump is mentioned, but mentioned
Speaker 1: in a positive way. Is the way I believe all
Speaker 1: that's going to play out. Glad you're here. Three or
Speaker 1: three seOne, three, eight, two, five five the number A
Speaker 1: text or dan George Clooney is wrong. Little Marco can
Speaker 1: deliver the message, so can J. D. Carolyn Love it
Speaker 1: as well. And what we're talking about is George Clooney,
Speaker 1: who's wrong about virtually everything, maybe right about this when
Speaker 1: he says trump Ism will not last past the end
Speaker 1: of this term. I think this is a grave danger
Speaker 1: of enormous magnitude to the GOP everywhere in America because
Speaker 1: so many of these voters in twenty twenty four, just
Speaker 1: like sixteen, right, but twenty twenty four, so many of
Speaker 1: these voters were not Republican voters. They're Trump voters. We've
Speaker 1: been talking about it since election Day, and there is
Speaker 1: a grave danger that the GOP is not going to
Speaker 1: be able to hold on to enough of those to
Speaker 1: win the really close races, so that GOP has the
Speaker 1: opportunity now to win those voters over. But to assume
Speaker 1: they've won them over is way, way, way wrong. To
Speaker 1: assume they've won them over just because they voted Republican
Speaker 1: in the last election. No, so many were just voting
Speaker 1: for Trump. And we've seen examples of that, right since
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, we've seen win a bull Senate race is lost,
Speaker 1: you know, because the candidates, you know, we're try to
Speaker 1: imitate Trump, et cetera. And that's that the voters wanted
Speaker 1: that from Trump. But there's only one Trump, Yes, So
Speaker 1: it's going to be very interesting to watch this, and
Speaker 1: I hope the GOP takes advantage of the gift Trump
Speaker 1: gave them, you know, the wins, the opportunity these years
Speaker 1: to convince the voters to stay with them when the
Speaker 1: president enters that last two years of his term and
Speaker 1: then when he's gone. Now, because of that opportunity and
Speaker 1: because of what the texture alludes to, and we've talked
Speaker 1: about a lot, right the enormous talent on the GOP bench.
Speaker 1: In terms of the White House, I think there is
Speaker 1: a tremendous opportunity to hold on to the White House
Speaker 1: because look at I mean, you've got jd You've got
Speaker 1: Marco Rubio, You've got other really talented people. The GOP
Speaker 1: is stacked. You look at the Democrats. I mean, Ryan,
Speaker 1: could you think of a single Democrat now other than
Speaker 1: I think Josh Shapiro's really talented to His problem is
Speaker 1: he's part of a party who's big money folks in
Speaker 1: leadership has become kind of anti Semitic. So that's a
Speaker 1: problem for their most talented guy, Governor Shapiro Pennsylvania. But
Speaker 1: beyond that, where's the talent on the Democrats side the GOP?
Speaker 2: It's overflowing. Dan, That's where I think George Clooney is
Speaker 2: exactly wrong. I mean, he has no knowledge, awareness, interest,
Speaker 2: or even curiosity about what's going on on our side
Speaker 2: of the ledger. He sees these other people and I
Speaker 2: would add Ronda Santas to that list the textas provided
Speaker 2: these are heavyweights in terms of the arena of idea
Speaker 2: and another one that would be formidable. But there are
Speaker 2: no Democrats that are reasonable rational. I mean John Fetterman,
Speaker 2: but he'll never get nominated for larger office in the
Speaker 2: Democratic Party, and Josh Shapiro can't because he's Jewish and
Speaker 2: it's an anti Semitic party.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, and that's that's the problem they have right now.
Speaker 1: Is anybody good they will eat right, they'll kill him.
Speaker 1: They'll kill them in the crib. So that's that's the
Speaker 1: problem they have. But yes, but I think there's a
Speaker 1: separation between the White House and the rest of these
Speaker 1: races around the country in terms of will the Trump
Speaker 1: voters show up for GOP and that's where it gets
Speaker 1: more dangerous. But on the White House level, and listen, Clooney,
Speaker 1: he's like I say, he's wrong about virtually everything, but
Speaker 1: but I think it is literally true that that to
Speaker 1: a certain extent, he calls it trump Ism, right, it's
Speaker 1: it's make America great again. To a certain extent, there
Speaker 1: will be leakage when President Trump is done, no matter
Speaker 1: how good the candidate is. But I just think that
Speaker 1: that these conservative principles work. Donald Trump's been able to
Speaker 1: prove that. And it's not always purely conservative principles for him,
Speaker 1: but the conservative principles work. He's done tremendously with that
Speaker 1: America benefits from it, which makes it more likely then
Speaker 1: whether it's a JD. Vance or Marco Rubio or Ron
Speaker 1: De Santis or somebody else that they'll never be exactly
Speaker 1: like Trump. They're never going to have that same appeal.
Speaker 1: There's only one man ever who would have that appeal,
Speaker 1: and that's Donald Trump. But they are in a position
Speaker 1: to take advantage of much of the base but then
Speaker 1: build on it with their own appeal.
Speaker 2: Trump is a unique phenomenon and it cannot be underestimated.
Speaker 2: That's why the Democrats lost to him twice is they
Speaker 2: underestimated him. You cannot do that, and you can't take
Speaker 2: him for granted. The energy that he generated, dan the rallies,
Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like in American politics. So you
Speaker 2: have Jdvance, you have Marco Rubio, you have Ron De Santis,
Speaker 2: you have many others that can articulate the message, and logically,
Speaker 2: left brain might do a better job of that than
Speaker 2: Trump even but the visceral emotional response that Trump in
Speaker 2: generated and people who never voted before to hold onto
Speaker 2: those voters is going to be a challenge.
Speaker 1: It is, I believe for purposes of the White House.
Speaker 1: The GOP is going to meet that challenge because of
Speaker 1: the enormous talent and how bad the Democrats are. When
Speaker 1: we start getting down to the state level, they really
Speaker 1: close races. That's where it gets scary for the GOP.
Speaker 1: And you've still got to keep your a game, you know,
Speaker 1: because even though the Democrats don't have any national talent,
Speaker 1: when you get down to individual state races and you
Speaker 1: start talking about popular Democrats within the state, maybe they're
Speaker 1: the lieutenant governor this or that, that's where you start
Speaker 1: getting into a different dynamics. So when we come back,
Speaker 1: lots to do in the next hour. Tremendous US Supreme
Speaker 1: Court decision today great for the entire country. We'll get
Speaker 1: into that. We'll touch on the bolder horror and the
Speaker 1: active recruitment of illegal immigrants to Colorado by Polists and
Speaker 1: the Democrats when they know some of those people are
Speaker 1: going to be rapist, murders and even