Speaker 1: And we're off and running. On a Thursday afternoon, It's
Speaker 1: the Rogan and Rodney Show minus Rogan and Rodney, as
Speaker 1: the eight oh five and the eight one eight are
Speaker 1: taking over the Blowtorch A five seventy LA Sports Tim
Speaker 1: Kats along with the great Jonas Knox here from noon
Speaker 1: to three today.
Speaker 2: What's up, Jonas? Oh man, this is gonna be a
Speaker 2: lot of fun. By the way, Who's who who gets
Speaker 2: to be here? Are you Fred? Or you Rodney? I
Speaker 2: was told I was Fred. I don't want to be Fred,
Speaker 2: but unfortunately I have to be Fred today. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: you were a much better athlete than be I think
Speaker 2: you should be I think you should be Rodney. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think you should be Rodney. I'll be Fred. Well,
Speaker 2: I'll take one for the team. Nobody wants to be Fred,
Speaker 2: so I'll do it. This is a long time coming, Jonas.
Speaker 1: The two of us doing great sports talk here in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, in southern California, two guys from the area,
Speaker 1: two guys that know LA sports better than anybody else
Speaker 1: here in this building, and we're together finally. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean listen, this isn't like, you know, somebody who
Speaker 2: grew up on eight mile like Fred and was a
Speaker 2: die hard Tigers fan when he was a kid, you know,
Speaker 2: walking around with some cecil field or blow up doll
Speaker 2: in his closet. And then he comes out here, tour
Speaker 2: it to Phoenix and starts hanging out in Phoenix, and
Speaker 2: then he makes his trek over to to Luca Lake
Speaker 2: and then thinks he can take this place over for
Speaker 2: four plus decades. No, no, no, no, no no. We are
Speaker 2: born and raised here in southern California. That's right, that's
Speaker 2: the way it should be.
Speaker 1: Absolutely talking LA sports from two guys born and raised
Speaker 1: here in southern California. We got a busy three hours.
Speaker 1: Jonas Vinnie Bontignor is gonna join us next hour. Dylan
Speaker 1: Hernandez from the La Times was at the Baseball Winter
Speaker 1: Meetings along with our own David Vesey in Dallas. The
Speaker 1: last three plus days. A lot happened, but also a
Speaker 1: lot didn't happen in Dallas, which we're gonna get into.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get into the whole Bill Belichick situation at
Speaker 1: North Carolina. And he had his press conference about an
Speaker 1: hour ago and didn't really say much as expected from
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. But I'm just glad we're both here together.
Speaker 1: You work three am to six am on two Joe's
Speaker 1: and a cup of but is it.
Speaker 2: Two pros and a cup of Joe's? So you probably
Speaker 2: had it better the first time, to be honest, with
Speaker 2: two pros and a cup of joe so you're light
Speaker 2: on sleep. I woke up this morning feeling like Cameron
Speaker 2: Fry from Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Here comes Kevin Figures,
Speaker 2: texting me like Ferris Bueller, saying are we going?
Speaker 1: Are you coming? Can you do the show? And I
Speaker 1: was dead to the world. I was absolutely out this morning.
Speaker 1: I had taken night quill last night. I got home
Speaker 1: from sports in at La last night. My throat was
Speaker 1: killing me. Feels like razor braids in my throat. And
Speaker 1: I woke up to Kevin's text and I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I just can't do it. I just can't do it.
Speaker 1: And as soon as I sent the text, I laid
Speaker 1: there and I thought about, wait a second. Jonas just
Speaker 1: worked three hours from three am to six am, probably
Speaker 1: working on little sleep. The guy works six days a
Speaker 1: week and then during football season seven days a week.
Speaker 1: How am I supposed to just lay here with a
Speaker 1: little sore throat and some sniffles and say I can't
Speaker 1: join Jonas from twelve to three today, so I slapped
Speaker 1: myself in the face. I took some of regan o'
Speaker 1: oil and here I am okay.
Speaker 2: Now let me ask you question how much of that
Speaker 2: had to do with the fact that niq Will, much
Speaker 2: like Booze great when you're having it, makes you feel good,
Speaker 2: and then you wake up the next morning and you
Speaker 2: feel groggy. Because the last time I had Nike Will
Speaker 2: was the last time I'll have niq Will. It just
Speaker 2: did not land well with me. I felt like craft
Speaker 2: the next day and I had to walk away. No
Speaker 2: offense to anybody from Nike Will who might be listening
Speaker 2: to the show on the iHeartRadio app our apologies, but
Speaker 2: I'm just letting you know, man, when you wear it
Speaker 2: the next day after after you take niquill the night before,
Speaker 2: you're going through it.
Speaker 1: I felt good this morning, though, because I was able
Speaker 1: to sleep despite the stuff. He knows, the head feeling congested,
Speaker 1: the sore throat, the ichy body. Last night. I woke
Speaker 1: up this morning, three of the four were gone, the
Speaker 1: sore throat still lingers, and Jonas I got to tell
Speaker 1: you something that has saved me today in the last
Speaker 1: few months is a regan O oil. I don't even
Speaker 1: know if have you heard about this? No, I have
Speaker 1: no idea what that. Well. I don't want to chronic
Speaker 1: taco myself. And that came back from a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago on the Petrols some money show on how
Speaker 1: was your Weekend? I talked about this taco place I
Speaker 1: went to here in Burbank called chronic Tacos, and Matt
Speaker 1: and Petchels are like, dude, you're an idiot. It's all
Speaker 1: over Orange County. Just because it just came to Burbank
Speaker 1: and you just discovered it doesn't mean it's new. And
Speaker 1: so now anytime somebody has something but it's already been
Speaker 1: around for a while, you get chronic taco. That's kind
Speaker 1: of the right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's new to you, So that's the most important.
Speaker 1: That's exactly. But if you bring up something on their
Speaker 1: show that they already knew about or it's been around
Speaker 1: for a while, it's chronic taco. So I don't want
Speaker 1: a chronic taco myself with a Regano oil. But I
Speaker 1: don't know how many other people out there listening you
Speaker 1: can tweet at us. A Regano oil, you drop it
Speaker 1: in your throat. It's an ointment. Little drop, It burns
Speaker 1: and it feels so good. After a few minutes, your
Speaker 1: sore throat is gone because of a regan O oil.
Speaker 1: Your breath smells, your throat is just on fire, I
Speaker 1: mean like on fire, but you feel so good.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean I've never heard of that. I
Speaker 2: would look into that. And also just going back to
Speaker 2: one thing that you said of it that well, he's
Speaker 2: on lack of sleep or whatever, like this is Look,
Speaker 2: you've had kids. I was just talking to Kevin Figures.
Speaker 2: Kevin Figures is going through stuff. Everybody listening is going
Speaker 2: through stuff like the lack of sleep conversation like I
Speaker 2: don't ever want to be a part of because the
Speaker 2: way I look at it, you know, we're blessed to
Speaker 2: be able to have any job period and if you're working,
Speaker 2: like you know, be thankful that you that you have
Speaker 2: the ability to work. But the fact that we get
Speaker 2: to do it and we play grab ass and talk
Speaker 2: about you know, the winter meetings and Belichick take it
Speaker 2: over at North Carolina and his personality and the Dodgers
Speaker 2: and what the hell's going on with the Oscar Hernandez
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, Cody Bellinger is on the
Speaker 2: move potentially and everything else that goes along with it
Speaker 2: like that, I just look at it and go a man,
Speaker 2: like I would be doing this anyways, So I just
Speaker 2: do it on a little bit less sleep.
Speaker 1: You're making me feel really bad because about an hour
Speaker 1: ago I was still out. I actually thought about it,
Speaker 1: took a shower, and I text Kevin like if you
Speaker 1: need me, I'm in because I just didn't feel good.
Speaker 1: And now you're making me feel like an absolutely idiot.
Speaker 2: And now but you do uh almost show. It's not
Speaker 2: like you haven't done shows on little sleep. You do scam.
Speaker 2: You're working every single day. You're doing like when when
Speaker 2: football seasons here, we got UCLA post game, like you
Speaker 2: bust your I was telling Petros this the other I
Speaker 2: was him tim buss his ass like he's always working hard. Uh,
Speaker 2: especially during football season with UCLA and everything else that
Speaker 2: comes along with it. To no, man, I mean, look,
Speaker 2: this is this is the life we chose. Sometimes we
Speaker 2: get thrown into you got to step in and you
Speaker 2: know we called the this is the bullpen game for
Speaker 2: the Rogan and Rodney Show. Here, we'll call it that
Speaker 2: today here on the show with Fred and Rodney both out.
Speaker 1: And you know what, the bullpen games were successful for
Speaker 1: the Dodgers, that helped them win a championship. We're gonna
Speaker 1: help make this great today here on.
Speaker 2: By the way, was it I was talking to Fred
Speaker 2: about this last time? Was the the bullpen game? Was
Speaker 2: that Mark Pryor's idea? Or was he the one who said,
Speaker 2: all right, if you want to do a bullpen game,
Speaker 2: then I will strategize exactly how it could look if
Speaker 2: we were to do a bullpen game? Like, whose idea
Speaker 2: was it to go to it?
Speaker 1: So frequently it's a collective effort, Jonas, It's not one
Speaker 1: person making the decisions. It's not Dave Roberts making the
Speaker 1: decisions or Mark Pryor making the pitching decisions. It's a
Speaker 1: collective effort from Andrew Freeman in the brain trust to
Speaker 1: Connor McGinnis assistant pitching coach. It is everybody combined that
Speaker 1: puts this together in the play together and they all
Speaker 1: map it out on how it hopefully goes. And then
Speaker 1: Dave Roberts is the one who's like that book, you know,
Speaker 1: choose your own adventure. He's the one who's supposed to
Speaker 1: go to the next adventure depending on what's happening in
Speaker 1: the games.
Speaker 2: It is kind of amazing how the conversation around Dave
Speaker 2: Roberts has chained though, oh right, every single offseason it
Speaker 2: was he's got to go, Dave Roberts can't get it done,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah blah. And I think, you know,
Speaker 2: we talked about it whenever I was filling in. By
Speaker 2: far and away, I think the best job he's done
Speaker 2: as a Dodgers manager this year, dealing and having to
Speaker 2: navigate all the injuries and everything else that came along
Speaker 2: with it. He was steady the entire time. You never
Speaker 2: heard a complaint, You never heard just steadied the entire season.
Speaker 2: Got to the postseason, they were putting difficult spots, elimination
Speaker 2: games against the Padres, bullpen games. You never knew who
Speaker 2: was going to be out there from one minute to
Speaker 2: the next. You had injuries pop up, you had Freddie
Speaker 2: Freeman's injury, and he was the constant throughout the entire year.
Speaker 2: And so now it is nice seeing him kind of
Speaker 2: get his flowers that he should have gotten a long
Speaker 2: time ago. How about the victory laugh for Dave Roberts
Speaker 2: last night speaking to the Boy Scouts of America. He
Speaker 2: was at the Winter meetings in Dallas before that. He's
Speaker 2: over at Okinawa, Japan, going back home to where he
Speaker 2: was born to get his flowers from the people over there.
Speaker 2: He had a family vacation over in Europe right after
Speaker 2: the World Series. He has been celebrated everywhere he has
Speaker 2: gone across the globe. And you're right, he's won fifth
Speaker 2: inneen away from not maybe a World Series or not
Speaker 2: maybe going out as we thought it was in Game
Speaker 2: five and the way they did in New York winning
Speaker 2: that game. But man, how about Baseball America Yeshua getting
Speaker 2: it right naming him the manager of the Year in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four because of everything he did from the
Speaker 2: start of the season through the postseason. The Manager of
Speaker 2: the Year award given out by the writers is a
Speaker 2: regular season award, and because he's on, you know, managing
Speaker 2: such a great team, Jonas, he'll never win that award,
Speaker 2: like Phil Jackson only won it once in his entire career. Well,
Speaker 2: and he deserved it from the sense that people can
Speaker 2: look at it and maybe push back and say, well,
Speaker 2: I mean with all that talent, of course they should
Speaker 2: win games. Dude, you didn't know who was going from
Speaker 2: day to day, Like you had no idea like Mookie
Speaker 2: Bets maximun See, like you could go through the starting
Speaker 2: nine on a day to day basis and find who
Speaker 2: was healthy the entire year, like who didn't have something
Speaker 2: pop up or missed a significant amount of time. So
Speaker 2: the fact that he was able to sort of you know,
Speaker 2: play the strings right, plays cards right now, vigate all
Speaker 2: that he absolutely deserves it, and then to go off
Speaker 2: and finish it off in the postseason, Man the moon
Speaker 2: in this town when they were down to the Padres
Speaker 2: that Sunday night game where the Padres were just raining
Speaker 2: home runs, like everyone thought it was a foregone conclusion, like,
Speaker 2: oh it's over, They're gonna lose again. Dave Roberts is
Speaker 2: going to be the one to wear it like this.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a disgrace. How do you not
Speaker 2: have your team ready? And then next thing, you know,
Speaker 2: he starts talking about you know, Manny Machado throwing a
Speaker 2: ball at him, and that stirred things up and you're
Speaker 2: looking at it and go, oh boy, he's getting really
Speaker 2: desperate now and they just took off from there and
Speaker 2: never looked back. Like it's a wild conclusion to a
Speaker 2: wild tenure with the Dodgers. So good for him. He
Speaker 2: should be celebrated.
Speaker 1: It was cool hearing Andrew Freeman last night on Dodger
Speaker 1: Talk with David Veasse from Dallas, and Dave askedon what's
Speaker 1: it like being Andrew Freeman walking through the lobby of
Speaker 1: the Winter meetings now as opposed to like the last
Speaker 1: two years or years in which he came close to
Speaker 1: winning a World Series and didn't, And he said it
Speaker 1: was awesome. I mean you walk around, people look at
Speaker 1: you differently, people recognize you because of what your team
Speaker 1: just did.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, there's been a lot of knocks on
Speaker 2: the Dodgers as far as okay, well they've never won
Speaker 2: a legitimate World Series, and you know, the twenty twenty
Speaker 2: season didn't count, like you can't take anything from him
Speaker 2: this time, and now they're just like what a luxury
Speaker 2: to have to where it's like, all right, we've already
Speaker 2: taken care of a big need, you know, another pitcher,
Speaker 2: another arm on the team. We've already gotten that done.
Speaker 2: And then you just go to the winter meetings, and
Speaker 2: it's like, all right, let's let's try and figure out
Speaker 2: whether or not we can keep tail, whether or not
Speaker 2: we can you know Sasaki is going to be in
Speaker 2: the mix, which it feels like that still looks like
Speaker 2: it's the most likely occurrence it's going to take place.
Speaker 2: And then he just kind of cruises around and goes, yeah,
Speaker 2: I still got the best team in baseball. Not a
Speaker 2: bad look.
Speaker 1: We were kicking it around on Access Sportsnet Dodgers last
Speaker 1: night on Sports at LA about what other teams so
Speaker 1: far Jonas have caught up or closed the gap on
Speaker 1: the Dodgers since the World Series? Are there teams that
Speaker 1: have done something in free agency so far? And it's
Speaker 1: still early, we haven't got to the holidays yet, but
Speaker 1: has anybody closed the gap just a little bit? Has
Speaker 1: anybody gotten closer? Like the Giants signing William Doomas and
Speaker 1: maybe Corbyn Burns signing with the Giants now, that would
Speaker 1: close the gap a little bit in the division. And
Speaker 1: the more and more I thought about it, the gap
Speaker 1: hasn't closed because, Yeahjan Soto's gone to the Mets, Garrett
Speaker 1: Crochet has gone to the Red Sox. Max Fried's gone
Speaker 1: to the Yankees. But the Dodgers brought in Blake SNeW
Speaker 1: so they matched those moves. And then they signed Michael CONFORDO, okay,
Speaker 1: you know that's a good signing, and they bring back
Speaker 1: Blake trying it, and they signed Tommy Evan to extension.
Speaker 1: So all these other moves that teams are making Jonas
Speaker 1: trying to close the gap. The Dodgers just keep widening
Speaker 1: themselves from everybody else in baseball.
Speaker 2: Well, like the one team last year going into the
Speaker 2: regular season that was it on par with them as
Speaker 2: far as some of the betting odds in certain places
Speaker 2: was the Atlanta Braves because everyone thought Atlanta, that's a
Speaker 2: deep roster. They've got the staff, the bullpen, they've got
Speaker 2: all that talent. And then they just got crippled with
Speaker 2: injuries last year and nothing went right for him and
Speaker 2: everybody seemed to go down and fall apart, especially down
Speaker 2: the back end of the season. And then you're like,
Speaker 2: all right, well, maybe Atlanta bounces back. They're not gonna
Speaker 2: have the injury misfortunate that they had. Then they just
Speaker 2: lost Max Freed, so okay, so now what So yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I think the gap is widened. The
Speaker 2: team that I think still will make some noise, But
Speaker 2: just because they play them so tough, now is San
Speaker 2: Diego Like, that's just always going to be a good matchup.
Speaker 2: And if you're Major League Baseball and you've got a
Speaker 2: pair of balls and half a brain, you put Dodgers
Speaker 2: Padres in as many primetime games as you possibly can.
Speaker 2: Do what you did with the Yankees and the Red
Speaker 2: Sox for years and years and years when you were
Speaker 2: shoving them down everybody's throat. Make that the matchup because
Speaker 2: that team plays them well every single time. Don't have
Speaker 2: to like them, don't have to be a fan of
Speaker 2: how the Padres do it or Fernando tattoos sticking his
Speaker 2: tongue out at fans when they're up to one in
Speaker 2: a series in the playoffs. But the fact is that's
Speaker 2: a great, compelling matchup every single time, and that should
Speaker 2: be featured as many times as possible if they can.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to go off memory here, but I don't
Speaker 1: think they play the Padres until a couple of months
Speaker 1: into the season. I don't see him in April looking
Speaker 1: in May. They don't play them in May of twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five, they don't face them unless I miss them.
Speaker 1: They don't face them until June ninth, tenth, and eleventh,
Speaker 1: a Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday in San Diego. And one
Speaker 1: of those is a getaway day one o'clock in the
Speaker 1: afternoon Wednesday, Dodgers Padres.
Speaker 2: Come on, Yeah, it's a lost time.
Speaker 1: Oh then they come back to Dodgers Stadium a week
Speaker 1: later and play them for four more. They're gonna play
Speaker 1: seven of the thirteen head to head meetings Dodgers and
Speaker 1: Padres in a two week span in June. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
Speaker 1: come back to Dodger Stadium and guess what Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
Speaker 1: Thursday at the Revine. Yeah, that's a missed off weekday games.
Speaker 1: Come yeah, that's a missed opportunity. I mean, look, it's
Speaker 1: good for Will the NFL ever do this, Jonas?
Speaker 2: No, No, the NFL. I mean, look at what's happening
Speaker 2: to the Kansas City Chiefs. They're playing, you know, the Chiefs,
Speaker 2: the Ravens, and the Steelers are all playing three games
Speaker 2: in eleven days. Because the NFL's got to the NFL's
Speaker 2: got to make sure they get you know, the Netflix
Speaker 2: Christmas games in right, you know, you got to you
Speaker 2: gotta feed that beast. And so when it comes to this,
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball is like, no, listen, it's more important
Speaker 2: for us to worry about which teams are going to
Speaker 2: send over to Japan to start off the air than
Speaker 2: it is really counting, especially that time of year when
Speaker 2: you have an opportunity to showcase teams in better spots,
Speaker 2: like you've got one of those games at one o'clock
Speaker 2: in the afternoon on a Wednesday. That's that's a blown
Speaker 2: opportunity by Major League Baseball.
Speaker 1: Outside of the NCAA tournament, and maybe if the Lakers
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, which quite frankly that may not happen.
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Southern California is going to be baseball centric
Speaker 1: from spring training all the way through October, and the
Speaker 1: fact that they don't play the Padres until June is
Speaker 1: pretty unbelievable. He is Jonas Knox. I'm Tim Kates in
Speaker 1: for Rogan and Ronnie on this Thursday afternoon. The Baseball
Speaker 1: Winner meetings have wrapped up, The Dodgers have made their moves,
Speaker 1: other teams around baseball made their moves, and right now
Speaker 1: as we speak, Jonas Juan Soto is being introduced to
Speaker 1: the New York media in Queens at his introductory press
Speaker 1: conference with the Mets. And guess who's sitting shotgun right
Speaker 1: next to Juan Soto. Oh, Scotty b Scotty Bee. Yes,
Speaker 1: Scott Boris is agent sitting right next to him. The
Speaker 1: last time we saw Scott Boris was at Dodger Stadium
Speaker 1: a week and a half ago. Oh yeah, for the
Speaker 1: Blake Snell press conference, in which how many questions did
Speaker 1: Scott Boris get?
Speaker 2: Settle zero?
Speaker 1: Just sat there the entire time. And here he is
Speaker 1: sitting on the podium again, next to Juan Soto and
Speaker 1: his seven hundred and sixty five million dollar contract.
Speaker 2: Now I'm just wondering is he got the same outfit
Speaker 2: as he had a Dodger Stadium, Because I was telling
Speaker 2: Fred and Kevin he looked like cousin Eddie from Christmas vacation.
Speaker 2: He had that blue that blue leisure suit, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. I was just waiting for him to
Speaker 2: pull out like a a moose glass and start drinking
Speaker 2: eggnog during the entire events. I'm trying to get some
Speaker 2: visuals of Scott Boris here sitting next to Wan so
Speaker 2: who By the way, credit to Scott Boris. I think
Speaker 2: there was a lot of people who just assumed that, listen,
Speaker 2: his time has passed, his strategy has passed. This whole
Speaker 2: You remember it was the Bors four last year that
Speaker 2: you know, they all had to wait till late, and
Speaker 2: people thought the way that he goes about his business
Speaker 2: is not the way it's done nowadays. And you have
Speaker 2: Blake Snell get what he got. Juan Soto got seven
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty five million dollars, which is and if
Speaker 2: you're a Yankee fan and you're pissed off at Juan Soto,
Speaker 2: you should be thankful. The best player on your team
Speaker 2: is Aaron Judge. You were just about to give Juan
Speaker 2: Soto four hundred million dollars more than the best player
Speaker 2: on your team. You got out of that with the
Speaker 2: ability to go add in different places, Like Juan Soto
Speaker 2: is a great player. I don't think he's an Otani
Speaker 2: type that moves the needle from you know, from a
Speaker 2: a buzz and an interest level. From that standpoint, it
Speaker 2: makes it interesting in New York because of the bad
Speaker 2: blood that'll be there. But dude, fifteen years jesus, I
Speaker 2: mean Scott Boris is getting paid.
Speaker 1: How would that have gone over though, with Aaron Judge
Speaker 1: knowing that Juan Sota would have got paid more than
Speaker 1: him and they were gonna start giving him a suite
Speaker 1: if they would have caved into his demands that he wanted,
Speaker 1: which we hear about now after the fact, I can't
Speaker 1: imagine that would have sat very well with Aaron Judge,
Speaker 1: who's supposed to be the leader mister Yankee now here
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenties, and to have Juan Soto get
Speaker 1: just headed everything he wanted in free agency, that wouldn't
Speaker 1: have not soaut well.
Speaker 2: Four hundred million dollars like I could understand if, like
Speaker 2: you know, Aaron Judge gets three sixty and Wan SODA's like, no, no, no, listen,
Speaker 2: I want three sixty five, right, I got you four
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars more for a guy who's not as
Speaker 2: good of a player as Aaron Judge, who you've built
Speaker 2: the organization around. I don't get it, but look, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of people out there that all of a
Speaker 2: sudden they are signing their kids up for fall ball
Speaker 2: and winter ball and everything else to go along with it.
Speaker 2: Think and that's the retirement plan, and who knows, maybe
Speaker 2: I'll be one of them. Keep throwing, son, keep throwing.
Speaker 2: Don't stop. No, your arm hurts, keep throwing. Throw through it, dude,
Speaker 2: throw through the pain. I mean what Max Freed got?
Speaker 2: What two hundred and eighteen million guys paid left handed
Speaker 2: starter in baseball history, Max Freed? If you need them,
Speaker 2: all right, I mean you know, I mean you know.
Speaker 2: That's why I don't when people show up at five
Speaker 2: in the morning for an Otani bobblehead doll with his
Speaker 2: dog and they're sitting in line at Dodger Stadium. I mean,
Speaker 2: Vassa pulls up to Dodger Stadium the same time every day.
Speaker 2: I think it's like one thirty. He pulls up there
Speaker 2: every single time, same time every day, and you've got
Speaker 2: a mile long of fans trying to get an o
Speaker 2: tawny bobblehead in gold with his dog on the side
Speaker 2: so they can go sling them on on eBay afterwards.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't get I don't blame him. Do
Speaker 2: with the prices, you're gonna be charged the city field
Speaker 2: with the Mets every time you get a bobblehead. I mean,
Speaker 2: you should be slinging that and a slice of pizza
Speaker 2: from down the street for as much as you can get,
Speaker 2: because it's gonna cost a fortune to go to their games.
Speaker 1: There By the way, Scott bores not rocking the blue blazer.
Speaker 1: He has got the traditional black suit coat.
Speaker 2: All right, let me see this. I'm trying to see God,
Speaker 2: because it was I mean, I look, it wasn't you know,
Speaker 2: taking a shot at Scott Boris. It's a hell of
Speaker 2: a look with that. With that, uh, I mean, at
Speaker 2: least he could do if he's gonna go full cousin Eddie,
Speaker 2: at least go turtleneck for Christ's sake, Like, if you're
Speaker 2: gonna do this, go all the way. So I'm trying
Speaker 2: to find, uh see what the the outfit is there
Speaker 2: for Scott Boris. But you know, and you know what's
Speaker 2: gonna happen to They're gonna find And this is what
Speaker 2: this East Coast biases that that people can try and
Speaker 2: deny and say doesn't exist. It absolutely exists. So Dodgers
Speaker 2: Padres is a better matchup, like it has been a
Speaker 2: better matchup. It's more compelling, the beef is real, et cetera,
Speaker 2: et cetera, So that one's gonna get the day game
Speaker 2: treatment at certain times. I promise you every time the
Speaker 2: Yankees and the Mets play each other, that will be
Speaker 2: featured every time, every single time. And it's just such
Speaker 2: a short sided approach because nobody on the East Coast
Speaker 2: wants to keep their lazy ass up a couple extra
Speaker 2: hours so they can watch the two best teams in
Speaker 2: the NL. Instead, they want to sit there and just
Speaker 2: grovel at the feet of New York Baseball and talk
Speaker 2: about one guy who left to go across town for
Speaker 2: four hundred extra million dollars and turn it into something
Speaker 2: that maybe it's not it's disgusting.
Speaker 1: So Wan Soto's a met He's being introduced right now.
Speaker 1: Scott Boris is his agent. We're going to tell you
Speaker 1: another agent. You need to know more about him because
Speaker 1: he controls one of the biggest names in free agency
Speaker 1: right now now in Major League Baseball, Bill Belichick. Will
Speaker 1: it work at North Carolina? Also coming up next, Lebron
Speaker 1: taking some time away from the Lakers.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 1: Rogan and Rodney not in today, but I did see
Speaker 1: Big Boy the Company Christmas party a couple of days ago.
Speaker 1: Tim Cages Jonas Knox in for Rogan and Rodney and
Speaker 1: big Boy is not big boy anymore. He is a
Speaker 1: small boy. He is not a big guy anymore. You
Speaker 1: know that, Jonas, I've heard that that he's lost a
Speaker 1: significant amount of weight. I mean we're around the same age.
Speaker 1: You remember Big Boy from years ago when he first
Speaker 1: got into radio. He was a big boy, big.
Speaker 2: Boy on all the billboards everywhere around town that you
Speaker 2: would see. It's my favorite.
Speaker 1: My favorite one is when he was the billboard where
Speaker 1: he was laying basically button naked but just had a
Speaker 1: towel over his unmentionables. I told Big I.
Speaker 2: Said that one stood out to me.
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, man had the desired effect, didn't.
Speaker 2: It, If you say so.
Speaker 1: I saw him and I did a double take him
Speaker 1: like that's that's not big boy anymore. That is that
Speaker 1: is certainly a big boy small now.
Speaker 2: But by the way, you know, I've never been to
Speaker 2: one company holiday at Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1: Didn't you guys just recently have yours?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Last week? Never, Like, I've literally never been to one.
Speaker 1: Ye, I've been there. You guys have a cool one.
Speaker 1: Did you guys go to like an arcade or something
Speaker 1: and rent it out?
Speaker 2: Is that I don't I don't even. I'll be honestly,
Speaker 2: I don't even the last the one last week was
Speaker 2: at a place in Sherman Oaks across from the station,
Speaker 2: like a Mexican place. I think it was called Freda
Speaker 2: or someplace like that. And but the problem is, like
Speaker 2: all the events that are catered there, like they'll do
Speaker 2: even some stuff at to where they'll have you know,
Speaker 2: giveaways or have some employees that'll go to California Adventure.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's probably coming up or either just passed.
Speaker 2: The problem is all the events you don't qualify for
Speaker 2: when you wake up at one in the morning, No,
Speaker 2: it doesn't. Your social life is toast, like it's over.
Speaker 2: I remember talking to Doug Gottlieb about this one time
Speaker 2: I saw him at Super Bowl and Doug's like, all right,
Speaker 2: so like your Friday, your weekend starts at you know,
Speaker 2: I mean you're off at six o'clock. It starts at
Speaker 2: six o'clock. I was like, no, man, like I need
Speaker 2: to get some sleep, right, Like, it doesn't. You can't
Speaker 2: train your body, especially like during the summertime when it's
Speaker 2: light out until eight thirty. You can't train your body
Speaker 2: to go to bed at five to wake up at
Speaker 2: one to get your eight hours. It just doesn't work
Speaker 2: that way. So you just so every time there was
Speaker 2: a company holiday party, I either was working or I
Speaker 2: was in that time slot to where it's like, by
Speaker 2: the time I beat traffic get back home, I've already
Speaker 2: got to go back to bed. God forbid. I've had,
Speaker 2: you know, a little bit of the liver loop while
Speaker 2: I'm out there trying to hang out with people, and
Speaker 2: next thing you know, you wake up and you're not
Speaker 2: feeling great when you got to do the show. So yeah,
Speaker 2: like like company Hall, I'm hoping to get to one
Speaker 2: one day. Just hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 1: We had ours a couple days ago here for iHeart
Speaker 1: in Burbank, and all the stations got together, and I
Speaker 1: don't know half the people there. I'm not very social
Speaker 1: as it is, so I don't really know about ninety
Speaker 1: five percent of the people that were there, especially with
Speaker 1: all the turnover we've had as well here in the building.
Speaker 1: But I went there for the prizes. Jonah and I
Speaker 1: got a hard time for Petros to mad for wanting
Speaker 1: the prizes because there were some cool ones. There was TVs,
Speaker 1: there was a trip overseas. They were given away. There
Speaker 1: was a local trip you can take on a cruise.
Speaker 1: They were giving away a lot of funds of Dodger
Speaker 1: dugout tickets, clippering tickets. You're seeing like three rows off
Speaker 1: the court, including parking, parking seventy bucks in US do
Speaker 1: it don't yea. So these were cool prizes that I
Speaker 1: went over to try to win, and of course I
Speaker 1: didn't win anything out of the fifteen prizes.
Speaker 2: That they had.
Speaker 1: And you had raffle tickets to put in the boxes.
Speaker 1: Everybody got four raffle tickets. I figured with diminishing returns
Speaker 1: here as far as nobody left in the building, most
Speaker 1: people that are left aren't coming back to a building
Speaker 1: company party. So my odds were pretty good. I was
Speaker 1: gonna win a prize. I was really excited about that.
Speaker 1: But I didn't win a single thing. And of course
Speaker 1: the prizes that are like a value that are really
Speaker 1: nice gifts prizes, people who make a lot of money
Speaker 1: in this building are then the ones that winning those prizes.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean looks, that's how this goes. And by
Speaker 2: the Petros to Matt are probably giving you a hard
Speaker 2: time because they have access to all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's what I was trying to get in it.
Speaker 1: I was a little piece of their world.
Speaker 2: No flas TV, trying to get on their level. And
Speaker 2: you know, if you knock on, you know, Dave Weize's
Speaker 2: door for anything, he just slams it in your face
Speaker 2: and pretends like he's on a phone call.
Speaker 1: I don't even know that guy anymore. The Dave Weis,
Speaker 1: I knew he doesn't exist anymore. He is just out
Speaker 1: of control.
Speaker 2: Nobody fakes a phone call like Dave Weis, Like he's
Speaker 2: one of those guys. Like he'll pick up any object,
Speaker 2: put it next to his ear, in his mouth, and
Speaker 2: just keep you hold up his finger and say give
Speaker 2: me one second. Like if he's if he doesn't have
Speaker 2: a phone nearby him, he'll pick up a Direct TV remote,
Speaker 2: put it to his face and say give me one second,
Speaker 2: like he's on the phone with somebody. He is.
Speaker 1: He is so good at that. Speaking of being on
Speaker 1: the phone, apparently the agent for ta Oscar Hernandez and
Speaker 1: the Dodgers are on the phone because Ken Rosenthal just
Speaker 1: was on Foul Territory, which is a production he is
Speaker 1: a part of online and the quotes are coming out
Speaker 1: from Ken Rosenthal MLB Fox Insider, and he said, quote,
Speaker 1: I fully expect tay Oscar to be back with the Dodgers.
Speaker 1: David Veasse. It hinted about a week ago that they
Speaker 1: were getting close and still hammering out details, but it
Speaker 1: was progressing in the right direction. And now Ken Rosenthal,
Speaker 1: who would know as well, says I fully expect Taoscar
Speaker 1: Hernanez to be back with the Dodgers. That is an
Speaker 1: awesome thing to hear today.
Speaker 2: Well, it's like when Max Montsy says, you know, if
Speaker 2: it means, you know, acquiring Nolan Aeronato and how good
Speaker 2: he is. An other's talks that he could go to
Speaker 2: first base or whatever the hell's going to go on
Speaker 2: with that. But like, I mean, you can't keep track
Speaker 2: with half these rumors that are out there. But like
Speaker 2: when you like Max Mounts, he's like, oh, I just
Speaker 2: want to be here. Just you don't think ta Oscar
Speaker 2: Hernandez realizes this is the best place for him, Like
Speaker 2: he can go somewhere else, like he could go potentially
Speaker 2: to the Yankees, which, by the way, I think also
Speaker 2: part of the reason why maybe he's not interested in
Speaker 2: the Yankees. You gotta shave I don't know if there's
Speaker 2: a lot of guys are in all that with that
Speaker 2: outdatial rule that they've got the no facial hair thing.
Speaker 2: But in all seriousness, I look at it and I go,
Speaker 2: why would you want to go anywhere after how well
Speaker 2: this year went? And you could say, well, you know
Speaker 2: this is he was a free agent. It was you know,
Speaker 2: he was a contract year. He was trying to get paid.
Speaker 2: It's not like he hasn't had good years before in
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, like he was just waiting to find
Speaker 2: the right spot. And if you're him and you're looking
Speaker 2: around and you realize, man, look at the protection I've
Speaker 2: gotten the lineup. I'm gonna get a ton of opportunities here,
Speaker 2: and I'm in a place where they like me and
Speaker 2: I like them. I'm celebrated here. Dude, stick around for
Speaker 2: another four years and if it's all about the length
Speaker 2: of the contract, but you know, find out you know
Speaker 2: a way that you can get that done. But for him,
Speaker 2: at this point in his career, I don't think it
Speaker 2: makes any sense to go anywhere else.
Speaker 1: It's refreshing to hear guys like Blake Trinan, who after
Speaker 1: the sea was in over was over told Andrew Freeman, Hey,
Speaker 1: I want to be back next year. You take away
Speaker 1: your bargaining ship there any leverage you have, but that
Speaker 1: says a lot. You want to be back, you want
Speaker 1: to be wearing a Dodger uniform. So I'll take whatever
Speaker 1: is out there at a competitive rate. To hear guys
Speaker 1: like a year ago, Kicky Hernandez say, Hey, I'm waiting
Speaker 1: for the Dodgers to open up some space. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna wait during spring training what I have offers out there.
Speaker 1: Because I so much want to go back to LA
Speaker 1: and play for the Dodgers. I'm willing to wait a
Speaker 1: few weeks in order for that door to happen. It's
Speaker 1: refreshing to hear that. And then you hear something like
Speaker 1: this Fromjue Soda today asked about signing with the Mets.
Speaker 3: I mean, the Mets is a great negotiation, and what
Speaker 3: they have done in the past couple of years showing
Speaker 3: uh all the ability to keep winning, to keep growing
Speaker 3: a team, to try to grow a dynasty is one
Speaker 3: of the most important teams. Definitely, what you were seeing
Speaker 3: from the other side, it was unbelievable, and the buds
Speaker 3: and everything in the field and the future that this
Speaker 3: team has. It has a lot to do with my decision.
Speaker 1: Okay, uh huh, Yeah, you decided to sign with the
Speaker 1: Mets because you like what they're doing in baseball operations
Speaker 1: and the product they're putting on the field.
Speaker 2: Dude, they had a rap song and a McDonald's character
Speaker 2: as the star of the team this past year, like like,
Speaker 2: I mean, what's like what are you doing? Like what's
Speaker 2: is Dan the Del Taco guy gonna throw out the
Speaker 2: first pitch at half the home games? Like what? Like,
Speaker 2: what's what's next for New York with the It's the
Speaker 2: second class organization in New York. It just is and
Speaker 2: it makes me wanted, like when we're sitting here talking
Speaker 2: about because I'll say it right now, after the World
Speaker 2: Series is over, you know, like that, like these betting
Speaker 2: odds will come out after every championship is over and
Speaker 2: they'll go, all right, so, well, who's most likely And
Speaker 2: usually it's the teams that were just in it to
Speaker 2: get most of the love. Right in the NFL Kansas City,
Speaker 2: of course, as long as Patrick Mahomes is there, they're
Speaker 2: going to get most of the love. The Dodgers, of course,
Speaker 2: they're gonna get most of the love Well, the Yankees
Speaker 2: were just in the World Series. I remember thinking to myself,
Speaker 2: I don't see them getting back, like I just I thought,
Speaker 2: you know, And this was me thinking the entire time,
Speaker 2: Juan Soda will return. I was like, but I just
Speaker 2: don't see them making it back. And I just wonder
Speaker 2: Wan Soda. We're talking about guys like Taskar her Nan
Speaker 2: and Blake Trin and and you know, guys like Keik
Speaker 2: Hernandez and and all these players that Max monts who
Speaker 2: was winning to move around because they don't want to leave.
Speaker 2: What does it say about the Yankees that Juan Soto
Speaker 2: left for basically the same amount of money in the
Speaker 2: same town, Like it's not like it's not like he
Speaker 2: left as a man. I really want to try Canada out,
Speaker 2: like I've heard. I've heard a ton of stuff about
Speaker 2: Tim Horton's I got to get out to Canada. I
Speaker 2: want to be a Blue Jay like he stayed put,
Speaker 2: Like he's in the same town. And it's I think
Speaker 2: it's the same conversation that should be had about Shoe
Speaker 2: heey O Tony. What does it say about the Angels
Speaker 2: organization and where they're currently at that you would leave
Speaker 2: there just to drive an hour up the five to
Speaker 2: go play for the Dodgers and and the con It's good.
Speaker 2: But the difference with this is that the Angels are
Speaker 2: seen as the second class organization in southern California. No
Speaker 2: offense to Angels fans like Juan Soto didn't reverse like
Speaker 2: he left the the organization to go. It's just a
Speaker 2: weird situation that I think we're gonna look back on
Speaker 2: and barring you know, two three World Series and MVPs
Speaker 2: to go along with it, I think he's gonna look
Speaker 2: back on it and regret it, regret his move. I
Speaker 2: don't think it's gonna land well historically.
Speaker 1: In ten years, in seven years, this Mets team, I
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna be in the same position they
Speaker 1: are in right now. I know Stephen Cohen likes to
Speaker 1: spend a lot of money, but at a certain point
Speaker 1: you can only spend so much and get to that
Speaker 1: luxury text. And with that being said, the Phillies are
Speaker 1: still the best team in that NL East. They won
Speaker 1: the division by six games. They won ninety five games
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. Did the Philadelphia Phillies And yeah,
Speaker 1: they got snake bit in the first round of the
Speaker 1: playoffs and didn't move on. The Braves caught fire, they
Speaker 1: beat the Brewers, they went in in the NLDS. They
Speaker 1: get to the NLCS and they fight against the Dodgers
Speaker 1: and just didn't have enough against them in the end.
Speaker 1: But the Mets were a wild card team that finished
Speaker 1: tied for second in the division. I don't think Juan
Speaker 1: Soto is a big difference maker that puts this team
Speaker 1: over the hump that all of a sudden now they're
Speaker 1: challenging with the Phillies in the division.
Speaker 2: And also you've seen like the Dodgers are an organization
Speaker 2: as staying power to where you know a result that
Speaker 2: you'll see happen in the postseason, you can expect that
Speaker 2: same result the next year. And look, you being a
Speaker 2: Raiders fan, you can remember a few years back when
Speaker 2: the Raiders won at one year, it might have been
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen like they were. That's when they went to
Speaker 2: the playoffs and Derek Carr got hurt late in the season, right,
Speaker 2: And I think it was Connor Cook who started a
Speaker 2: playoff game at Houston against the Texans. It was like
Speaker 2: a Saturday playoff game and you looked at it, and
Speaker 2: he said, all right, well, at least they've got building blocks.
Speaker 2: You've got Derek Carr, you've got Khalil Mack. Like, at
Speaker 2: least there's some things to feel good about. And then
Speaker 2: you went back and you actually looked at the season
Speaker 2: and you go, yeah, but they won a lot of
Speaker 2: one score games, and there was a lot of bounces
Speaker 2: that went their way, and sure is s next year
Speaker 2: they were back to the Raiders. The Mets won a
Speaker 2: lot of games down the stretch that I find it
Speaker 2: hard to believe that you just run that back again
Speaker 2: and get the same result, like, you know, like them
Speaker 2: getting as far as they did in the postseason. I
Speaker 2: don't see it like they were on the brink several times.
Speaker 2: They were down this year for several times. The idea
Speaker 2: that all of a sudden, you can expect the same
Speaker 2: results and the Mets are going to be back. In contention,
Speaker 2: he's a great player, but he's one guy, and I
Speaker 2: don't know that he's the greater player that would just
Speaker 2: all of a sudden impact the pecking order of the
Speaker 2: National League based on the seven hundred and sixty five.
Speaker 1: You gave him. So you're saying the new York Mets
Speaker 1: are the Arizona Diamondbacks. Good one year, bad the next.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: I love little baseball talk with Jonas Knox. Get you
Speaker 1: out of that football world that you're in every single day. Jonahs,
Speaker 1: f those jocks when we come back. The Lakers may
Speaker 1: not have Lebron James tomorrow night when they retake the court.
Speaker 1: He's taken a leave of absence. Huh, we'll get into it.
Speaker 1: Rogan and Rodney, Knox and Kates a Fi seventy Elight
Speaker 1: Sports Jonas Today's Throwback Thursday edition of Afternoon Delight. I
Speaker 1: Got You by James Brown, the most recognizable song ever
Speaker 1: recorded by the Godfather of soul, and of the ninety
Speaker 1: one James Brown songs that he charted.
Speaker 2: You know This, Jonas.
Speaker 1: This was the highest charting song, peaking at number three
Speaker 1: on the Billboard Hot one hundred charts back in December
Speaker 1: of nineteen sixty five. In edition to being used in
Speaker 1: a multitude of TV shows and movies. This song is
Speaker 1: ranked at number twenty one on VH one's Greatest Rock
Speaker 1: and Roll Songs of All Time and is seventy eighth
Speaker 1: on the Rolling Stones Top five hundred Songs of All Time.
Speaker 1: Again today's Throwback Thursday edition of Afternoon Delights. I got you.
Speaker 2: I feel good by James Brown. By the way, he
Speaker 2: was a wild man. Yeah, there are some stories about him.
Speaker 3: He was out.
Speaker 2: That guy could party, you know, like a little different
Speaker 2: than some of the parties we're hearing about lately, but
Speaker 2: just saying, you know, he liked to get after it
Speaker 2: a little bit, did James Brown?
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of those parties. Lebron James is staying away.
Speaker 4: What what?
Speaker 1: Lebron James is staying away from the Lakers right now,
Speaker 1: taking a leave of absence, and according to JJ Reddick
Speaker 1: may or may not play tomorrow nights when they put
Speaker 1: the Timberwolves in Minnesota. Sham Sharani has says it is
Speaker 1: unlikely that he will play tomorrow night, and it would
Speaker 1: give Lebron some rest for his foot soreness, and it
Speaker 1: would allow eight days in between games for him to
Speaker 1: rest that foot. But yesterday he missed practice not because
Speaker 1: of an injury, it was because of personal reasons. So
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he's at practice right now. We'll
Speaker 1: get an update, I'm sure in the next couple hours
Speaker 1: here when practice ends and JJ Redick and the players
Speaker 1: talked in the media before heading out, but Lebron James
Speaker 1: right now, not with the Lakers team, and a Lakers team,
Speaker 1: by the way, there's lost seven of their last ten
Speaker 1: Jonas and a Lakers team right now that is looking
Speaker 1: to get some ways to get back on track. On
Speaker 1: the outside looking into the top six teams in the.
Speaker 2: Way, I mean, it's just interesting to there's a lot
Speaker 2: of things that have just seemed a little interesting about
Speaker 2: uh le, like you know, going off social media, Like
Speaker 2: I don't know why you would want to go off
Speaker 2: social media all of a sudden, you love the place,
Speaker 2: you can't get enough of it, you know, announcing your
Speaker 2: going off social media, and then you know, I want
Speaker 2: to play every day, that's the goal. I want to
Speaker 2: play all lady too. And then now it's like I'm
Speaker 2: going to take time away for personal reasons.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I hope everything's okay. Yeah, you know, I just just
Speaker 2: you know, you know, there's just been a lot of
Speaker 2: speculation out there at the timing is a little odd
Speaker 2: that you know, there's some other names that are also
Speaker 2: out there in the news, and you know, some accusations
Speaker 2: that have been levied.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the internet solusor are trying to connect the dots
Speaker 1: on maybe why the leave of absence. But if you
Speaker 1: look at his play on the court, I mean, averaging
Speaker 1: twenty three points per game, shooting about fifty percent from
Speaker 1: the floor, he's only shooting thirty five percent from three.
Speaker 1: I mean he's still averaging twenty three, nine and eight
Speaker 1: at the age of forty. And yeah, his play the
Speaker 1: last couple of games was down. He was at a
Speaker 1: stretch where he was oh for his last nineteen at
Speaker 1: one point from beyond the arc. Certainly the start that
Speaker 1: he got off to at the age of forty opened
Speaker 1: a lot of eyes. Jonas like, Wow, this guy looks
Speaker 1: like he's the best player on the court, and he
Speaker 1: is by far the oldest player on the court no
Speaker 1: matter who they're playing. He's come back down to earth
Speaker 1: a little bit. But when did this whole notion of
Speaker 1: eighty two games he's going to try to play in
Speaker 1: all of them throughout the course of the regular season. Look,
Speaker 1: that's the part that I missed, something like that's the
Speaker 1: part that seemed weird to me because everybody talks about
Speaker 1: you know, load management, load managem right, and they go
Speaker 1: they go back to Lebron as being one of the
Speaker 1: guys who was the sort of the voice for load
Speaker 1: management and take your time and pick and choose when
Speaker 1: you want to play. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: this year it's like, no, no, no, I want to
Speaker 1: play all eighty two. And it just seemed it just
Speaker 1: seemed a little weird to me. It seemed like it
Speaker 1: was a little bit of miss. It wasn't anything that
Speaker 1: we had heard from him before. And look, Jordan did
Speaker 1: it his final year in the NBA where Jordan was
Speaker 1: with the Wizards, and he played every single game. So
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is a well he could
Speaker 1: do it, you know, his towards the end of his career.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be able to do it towards the
Speaker 1: end of my career.
Speaker 2: At this age and this stage of his career, this
Speaker 2: would be the time when load management would make the
Speaker 2: most sense. Like I don't think anybody would be critical
Speaker 2: of ay, he needs he needs a breather here, he
Speaker 2: needs to blow there, like he needs like whatever. He's
Speaker 2: got to take some time. Totally understand. But it was
Speaker 2: the whole We're going to play all eighty two And
Speaker 2: I'm okay, But why why now? Why this year was
Speaker 2: the year, and I just wondered, and you know, JJ
Speaker 2: Redick has not been shy about calling out the team
Speaker 2: and call it and I just wonder if Lebron James
Speaker 2: looks at the setup with JJ Reddick and he's like,
Speaker 2: all right, well, I'll just play all eighty two. Then,
Speaker 2: you know, because they're having to move around so much more,
Speaker 2: and now you're seeing this team sort of fall apart.
Speaker 2: There was a lot of opt mism, you know, Connect
Speaker 2: had you know, one great game where he hit like
Speaker 2: nine threes and you got everybody run into social media going,
Speaker 2: I told you that was the steal of the draft,
Speaker 2: and he's gonna win Rookie of the Year. It's okay,
Speaker 2: all right, man, like you know, it's it's one of
Speaker 2: eighty two. But okay, just this the whole start of
Speaker 2: the year feels weird. The mystery surrounding getting away from
Speaker 2: social media feels odd. The I'm gonna take some time
Speaker 2: away for personal reasons feels a little strange. You know,
Speaker 2: some people have you know, wondered, could this have anything
Speaker 2: to do with you know, some parties, sure, you know
Speaker 2: that might have gone on again, not me, not me.
Speaker 2: Just a lot of speculation out there I think somebody
Speaker 2: did send us over a picture that I'm I'm assuming
Speaker 2: it's photoshopped.
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of, that can't be real.
Speaker 2: I mean, if it's real, that gives Oscar de la
Speaker 2: Hoye a run for his money, Oscar's own in the
Speaker 2: year since. Yes, and a lot of people that Oscar
Speaker 2: himself blames Fred for sort of his demise.
Speaker 1: I blame Fred for a lot of things. Anytime I
Speaker 1: get in trouble with anybody, I just blamed Fred wrote,
Speaker 1: did you ever did.
Speaker 2: You hear that story? Yeah? Fred was on with Oscar
Speaker 2: de la Hoya was on with Ariel Hawani and Oscar
Speaker 2: dala Hoya said that you know the story about he
Speaker 2: was doing it for his you know, his dying mother's
Speaker 2: wishes or whatever, and wow, he specifically pointed out Fred
Speaker 2: Rogan is the guy who kind of stirred it up
Speaker 2: and started running with the story.
Speaker 1: He didn't. Let's hear it, Kevin, are you Jonas, is
Speaker 1: this really happens? It's absolutely happened to have the audio guy.
Speaker 2: Gosh.
Speaker 4: So the first lie that really weighed on me was
Speaker 4: my mother her dream. Supposedly I I dedicated that gold
Speaker 4: medal for her because she asked me to it was
Speaker 4: her dying wish. Oh, it wasn't like that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: When I when I got back from the Olympics, being
Speaker 4: eighteen years old, I get out of the ring after
Speaker 4: listening to the national anthem, I'm on the podium for place.
Speaker 4: I get out of the ring and Fred Rogan at
Speaker 4: the time, I believe, tells me, so, you did this
Speaker 4: for your mother. It was her dying wish.
Speaker 1: How do you feel?
Speaker 2: And I was like, I feel great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And from there it just caught fire and that
Speaker 4: was the story. Yeah, you know my mom's dying wish.
Speaker 4: And I didn't say anything about it. I didn't do
Speaker 4: anything about it. I just thought, okay, well that's what
Speaker 4: it is. And it caught fire.
Speaker 2: So Fred with a leading question to the witness about
Speaker 2: his mom's dying wish, and it stuck and let him
Speaker 2: down the path of wearing women's clothing. Congratulations Fred, that
Speaker 2: put that on the mantle. I have never heard that before.
Speaker 1: That is unbelievable for Oscar to pull that out and
Speaker 1: just put Fred right there at the center of it all.
Speaker 2: Like what fifteen twenty years later, whatever it was, it was,
Speaker 2: what a memory, I mean, a lot has happened in
Speaker 2: Oscar five years later. Yeah, just rattling off like it
Speaker 2: just happened yesterday, Fred Rogan to blame. Yeah, uh, Fred,
Speaker 2: Like I remember when Kevin and I presented that to
Speaker 2: break it. I sent it over to Kevin. I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: I was listening to Aria Hawani show. He had Oscar on.
Speaker 2: You gotta check this out. And Kevin's like, all right,
Speaker 2: I haven't said and Fred was like no, no, he
Speaker 2: tried to deny it, and then Oscar blatantly specifically said
Speaker 2: Fred Rogan, it was the one who led me down
Speaker 2: that pass.
Speaker 1: Listening to that podcast, did you spin out? What are
Speaker 1: you're ever drinking?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Fred?
Speaker 2: Well, I was. I was laughing because I knew I
Speaker 2: was working that day with him, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is glorious, like like we've yeah, yeah, the content
Speaker 2: we've got. You know, you can sit here and argue
Speaker 2: about you know who the Dodgers should go with, you know,
Speaker 2: to clean up the Seventh Inning woes, or we could
Speaker 2: talk about Oscar de la Jolla blaming Fred Rogan for
Speaker 2: spreading ali about his dead mom all these years. It's
Speaker 2: kind of kind of wild, but nonetheless, uh Lebron James.
Speaker 2: You know the pictures that that that that we were
Speaker 2: sent over, I'm assuming that's that's photoshop. No way they
Speaker 2: can be real. But hopefully he gets back because it
Speaker 2: is like everything you need to know about the Lakers
Speaker 2: is that Lebron James at his age is their best player,
Speaker 2: and like, if that's the case, like you might have
Speaker 2: some long term problems here when it comes to this year.
Speaker 1: Let's not forget the trade rumors that happened seventy two
Speaker 1: hours ago, the talk that Lebron James could waves no
Speaker 1: trade clause if you were approached about being traded and
Speaker 1: going somewhere else. Okay, all right, it feels like a
Speaker 1: lot of distraction surrounding Lebron James right now, maybe a
Speaker 1: good time to kind of just reset.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, we're not even at Christmas and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden trade rumors and party rumors and everything else
Speaker 2: to come along with it. It's like, all right, I
Speaker 2: guess we're just gonna play this game again, and we're
Speaker 2: just gonna go down this road again. And while everyone's
Speaker 2: sitting there talking about what do you expect from the Lakers,
Speaker 2: I'm like, just like, what's part what do they normally
Speaker 2: do with Lebron there outside of the bubble year, they
Speaker 2: normally struggle to get in the postseason. They get in,
Speaker 2: and you just hope that they get a good matchup
Speaker 2: in the first round.
Speaker 1: If I'm Lebron James, I just blame Fred. Coming up
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