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Speaker 1: Well, it is my distinct pleasure to be doing today

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by the WBO interim heavyweight champion, Joseph Parker and Joe.

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Speaker 2: You have a very.

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Speaker 1: Important fight coming up. You'll be taken on Fabio. Worldly

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really interesting that to at least to me anyway. It

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is October twenty fifth. You're headlining the Queensbury his own

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haper newcart take place at the O two Arena in London,

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one of the great arenas in boxing. Welcome to the show.

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Glad to talk to you again. How's everything you just

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told me before we started taping. You've been in Ireland

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five and a half weeks getting ready with your trainer,

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Andy Lee for this big fight.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on that. Good to see you again.

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I've been in the island training for five and a

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half weeks now, Andy, and we've been being able to

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put in some good work to lead into this fight.

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I know it's one of those fights where I never

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even while coming, you know, I was thinking about fighting

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this person and that person, but then this fight was

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offers me. I said yes straight away because I just

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wanted to fight.

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Speaker 1: Well, the Joseph Parker that I have known and covered

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for many years has never been a guy that's turned

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fighters down, and which brings me to the first thing

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I want to ask about, which is to just go

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back to your most recent fight that took place in February.

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You were, of course scheduled to fight Daniel Dubis challenge

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him for the IBF heavyweight title. That was a pretty

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big fight, and he pulled out the week of the fight,

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said he was ill and instead and we spoke before

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that fight, we did one of these interviews before that,

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and then it ended up changing the opponent right before

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the fight. But anyway, you took on Martin Bucoli in

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a fight that was arranged at about what two or

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three days notice, and he flew in at the last

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minute from where he was in Africa, and so I

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mean that's difficult for both guys. You know, him coming

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in on short notice, You're having to change your thoughts

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from a dui fight to what the Martin b beccauley fight.

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Totally different kind of guys. Can you just give me

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a little bit of insight into how you approached the change,

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especially on such short notice, both physically, if anything, and mentally, you.

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Speaker 2: Know that like leading into that fight with then of

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Dubois and hitting to the press conference. We found that

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on social media that he was ill, and we found

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that on the way to the press conference, the fight

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with Daniel Danielduba wasn't going tohead. So the last minute change,

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obviously grateful to Martin BACAULI were putting up his hand.

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And I mean as soon as Danie Dubar pulled out,

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I saw tweets on Twitter saying Martin is ready and

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Martin will take the fight in. So we're just looking

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through the list of who I wanted the Martin Baculea,

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because I knew how tough he was, but I didn't

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know that what his preparation was, or if he was training,

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or where he was in the world. I just thought,

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you know what, I've had great spiring of him and

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went back and forth, and I just love to fight him,

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and you know, he flew in. And my mindset at

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the time was I don't care who I fight. I've

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been preparing for the champion of the world, Dan Dubar.

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I just need someone to be in front of me

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so I can let my hands go. So that was

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the mindset. I wasn't really worried about who it was. Okay,

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so I get turned out.

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Speaker 1: And maybe he wasn't an ideal condition because it was

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on such short notice, he wasn't in a full training camp.

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But I don't think that can take anything away from

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you going in there with such a big man and

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not just winning, but doing so very emphatically. Is stopping

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him big knock had in the second round. So some

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people will say, well, you know, short notice, he wasn't ready,

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so of course Joseph was able to beat him pretty easily.

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On the other hand, hey, Mark mccoley's a tough dude,

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no matter whether he's in training or not. He's a

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big man, he's got a big punch. How do you

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assess your performance and and and given the circumstances.

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Speaker 2: Given the circumstances, I was just h I was just

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to to finish the fight how it did, and just

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always listened after the fight, he was okay, make sure

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that that he was you know, he went back home

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with his to his family, but he was, uh, he

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was well paid and uh, you know, but it was

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one of those things where I at the time, I

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just didn't didn't really care who to fight because I

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was I was prepaying for the championship the world, and

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I was ready to go. Uh and so as I

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assisted the performance. Uh good, good to get the win.

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Speaker 1: But onto the knicks right well on to the next

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Dubi for the IBF title, but when the fight was changed,

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you then were defending your WBO interim title, which puts

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you in position where next up was supposed to be

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Alexander Usik, who was allowed to face Daniel Dubois, who,

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by the way, got sick and then suddenly finds himself

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in that fight. Some people suggest that maybe beld on

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you so as not to possibly blow the fight with Usak,

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but that's, I guess, a conversation for another day. In

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any event, you know he fought the rematch with Usik,

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and Usik knocked him out very emphatically, once again and again.

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Joseph Parker supposed to be next up. He says he's

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got some nagging injuries, a back injury put in for

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an exception with the WBO to sort of put off

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the mandatory leaves you in a position where you can

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either sit and wait or you can go out there

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and fight like you're gonna do on October twenty fifth.

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You know, to me anyway, Joe, and I don't think

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I'm in the minority here that you clearly deserve a

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heavyweight championship fight with the way that you've been fighting

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over your last several bouts. Did you think about waiting

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for him and like was your mindset about, like, Okay,

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you know what, I'm not going to get him right away.

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He's gonna be out for a while, so I want

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to just I want to fight. And you know, now

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you've got a very tough looking opponent and Wardley in

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front of you.

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Speaker 2: My mindset again. After the fight with Martin Bacaudi, I

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went back to New Zealand with George Lockott and we

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were training. I thought I'd be in New Zealand for

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two or three months building the way, building on on

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the weights and the running and a little bit boxing

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here and did. But I never thought I was going

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to be there until August, you know, so I thought,

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you know, I thought I was gonna fight in July.

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Then I push out to August and Septim and now Optaba.

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But did you think it was gonna be Usik or

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somebody else. I thought, you know, I instructed the team

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please lock on the five musick and when when when

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the months were going by days and weeks and the months,

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I just looked to myself, you know what stuff this,

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I just want to fight. Give me anyone and everyone.

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Speaker 1: So once again you're you're waiting for music, but you

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obviously have a very tough uh nutt in uh in

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front of you. In terms of Fabio Wardley, one thing

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you were looking to get.

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Speaker 2: The fight with you was sick.

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Speaker 1: I mean I follow you on social media. You do

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these amazing videos where you call them out with the

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music and really hilarious with your messages. I think the

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fans really like the way that you do that. That's

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you don't insult your opponents. There's no bad words. They're

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all in good humor, great music, hilario. You've done them

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for other fights. Also, I've seen your wife in some

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of your videos. I think I've seen your kids in videos.

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How does how did you come up with that sort

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of creative thing to do that? Because I have to say,

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of all the guys out there who are at the top,

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level of boxing. You have the most entertaining call outs

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of anybody I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: You know, I would love to take credit for them,

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but there's a guy named Kirie Russell on my team.

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And then started off when we had the lockdown, well

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COVID lockdown, and it was in my bubble and what

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we wanted to do was just cheer on up and

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we just found found something that I love to do,

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was re enact movies and do these dance clips and

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video clips and singing. I'm just thinking about saying they're

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hilarious as a fighter. As a fighter, like you're spending

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some of your family, You're worried about the training, you

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worried uh getting stronger, getting further, getting sharp, but then

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having something else like this, I was just like, you

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know what, this is fun. Let's keep doing more and

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more and it's just nice you.

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Speaker 1: You seem to me anyway, as of all the fighters

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I talk to and cover and interview and write about

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and everything that you approach everything. I know this is

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a serious business, a lot of money at stake, there's

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obviously people's health at stake, but you seem to approach

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your events, your fights, everything with a certain sense of

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joy that I just don't see frankly in a lot

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of other fighters. Uh do you am I wrong? Do

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you really seem to enjoy like the whole spectacle, the

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whole spectacle of the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: I enjoy everything. I just say before that what I

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can control is what I'm gonna you know, like things

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about fighting using that I couldn't. I couldn't control that.

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I know Usik was injured and there was a few

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things happening behind the scenes, but I couldn't control that.

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My approach was, you know what, I'm just gonna enjoy

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earthing that I can control, the training, the videos, the

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now now preparing for October twenty five, February. I think

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time is precious as times to show to be in

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some sort of mood. You just gotta. I have my

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family with me here in either and I'm just I'm happy,

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you know, based on both worlds. I got my team here,

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I got my family up the road five six minutes

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up the right. I can see them every day. I'm

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just life is very good and very very beautiful.

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Speaker 1: That's great because sometimes guys they go and they lock

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themselves away and they're not with their family, their wife,

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their kids and other people and there and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've done that. Yeah, And I feel that

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this approach is a lot better and a lot more

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because I'm not worried about them back in New Zealand.

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I can see them every day and i can see

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them grow, you know. And when you're missing out eight

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weeks with ten weeks at a time, it's just too long.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like you are not that you're the

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only one, but you got a real maturity about you

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in terms of the way you handle things like you

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should be as a grown as a grown man. You

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should be able to handle your job, which is the train,

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and be ready for your fights as well as see

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your family. Just because you see your family, you shouldn't

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make you not as focused or I do know, like this.

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Speaker 2: In the the she locked themselves away, flight to different

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countries and and be and and and for some fighters

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it does work for them. But I've I've done I've

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done both, and I feel like being close to the family,

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have them close to me, it's way beautiful me and

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my mind and uh and it's just the time is

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too short. Let's just enjoy every day together.

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Speaker 1: So you are on an excellent run. You've been pretty

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active relatively speaking. You've won six fights in a row,

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your last three against you know, quality top names and Macauli.

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We just talked about, uh, the decision victories against Jang

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and also against Deontay Wilder, and that's in your last

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three fights. I'm not sure there's a heavyweight on a

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better run in terms of their last three bouts than that.

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Are you the most deserving heavyweight in the world of

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a shot at Alexander Usik?

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Speaker 2: For me, yes, I I feel and I believe that

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I deserve the shot Alexander Yusik. And but then listen again,

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there's also other people who feel like they deserve it

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and others who think someone else deserves. Another person would

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be cow Boy Out who's put on good performances as well,

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so he's another fighter who deserves big fights. But I

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do feel that with the fights that I've had and

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I can only fight who's in front of me, I

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believe that I should be given an opportunity to face

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someone like Alexander Yusick, who is like a great in

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this generation as a fighter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying that that you're the

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only one that deserves a shot and I agree with

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you about kaby Yo. I just think that Joe Parker

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deserves it more than anybody else right now, given what

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you've given to the sport. You've been a pass champion,

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you are on a great run, you entertain the fans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all the things that go into it. I do

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believe that I should get the shot of Usik, and

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this fight with Fabian Walley, you know, the outcome will

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get me closer to that fighter. Fusik so Fabia. Wardly,

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he's not on a pretty good run himself. He's you know,

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he had a nice knockout that at the time was

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sort of perceived as a fifty to fifty fight against

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said Delia. That was a Saudi Arabia fight. He had

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the it was a tremendous battle.

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Speaker 1: It was a draw. But against Fred Clark, super entertaining

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fight of the year. Came back in the rematch, drilled

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him in the first round. Spectacular performance in that and

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then uh some drama in his last fight, way behind

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on the scorecards against Justice Hooney. I know you're awfully

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familiar with coming from the same part of the world

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as as both of you guys do. And he rallied

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for that big one punch knockout, so he's he's done

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some things. Also, he picked up an interim title as

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well of the WBA. How do you feel like you

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match up with him? He's got big punch, he's a

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big man. Also, not as much pro experience as you

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at the highest level, So how do you look at

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this matchup?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I see him as a you know, another fighter

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who's who's got a big right hand. And I'm not

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just going to look at his last fight and think,

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you know what, he was down on the cars and

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you just have to avoid his right hand when you

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look at it. Like you said, you named David Adelaide

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fight and he named the fight of phrase of clock.

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So each fight presents a different sort of task and challenge,

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you know. And I think with him, he's young, he's fresh,

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he's got his own goals, he's determined. He carries a

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pale all the way through. So there's a different challenge

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with someone like Jiang or Pacoli, Kim last Mink. Also,

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while I couldn't really landed something, I just have to

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be on my game and use my experience. And I've

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been in the game longer than he is, So I

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feel like the experience pot is gonna uh yeah, pay

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pay a lot of benefits.

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Speaker 1: Well, when I look at the matchup, I see I

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see a Joseph Parker that is more versatile than Fabia.

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Worldly he's got obviously, as you mentioned, he's got a

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tremendous right hand, can knock out anybody. He's one of

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all of his fights by knockout except for one of

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his victories. But do you see it that way that

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if you can somehow negate or avoid or just you know,

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not take the full brunt of the right hand, that

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that puts you in a position where you could do

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a lot of things, whether it's use your jab or

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out box or use your movement.

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Speaker 2: I do feel like I have a lot more whippons

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in my U and offer a lot more. You know,

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what's the experience and all the whippons that I do have,

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and combinations and knowing when too far out of time

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and everything I do. If I can avoid his right

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hand and land all the shots that I on and

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it's all about practicing at now, Andy Lee, you know,

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the combinations on the pads, on the spying partners, I

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think will be too much for him. So you're headed

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back for this fight.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be at the O two arena, as I mentioned,

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has hosted many many big fights through the years. You've

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this will be your second fight there. Your your only

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other fight that took place. There was a great fight

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against Delan White, but you came up short. Uh you

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lost that decision. Very close fight, tremendous battle. Any any

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uh hesitation about going back, not not that that arena specifically,

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but just going back and fighting on Wordley's turf. You know,

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you're the guy coming from the other country to fight

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in his home, his hometown, but his home, his home fans.

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Speaker 2: Basically this is like a venue redemption fight for me. Okay,

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but then also, like you know, I'm for somebody comes

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from New Zealand with five million people, come from Samoa

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with you know, a few hundred thousand people, and then

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the love that we've been getting in the UK and Ireland.

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I do believe that even though it's Fabia Walley's hometown,

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but being sort of adopted in the and the you know,

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in the UK boxing scene, and I will have great

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support myself. So you know, the the buzz is gonna

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be great. That ad this is gonna be get I

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feel like it's gonna be litric and I'm gonna feed

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off the I to feed off the electric crowd that's

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going to be there on the ninth. Yeah, you have

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a big game in the UK, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously your fight with Anthony Joshua was a

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huge event eighty thousand or whatever they drew there, and

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you have fought there plenty of time, so I can

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see that you have in some folks cheering for sure.

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What I wonder though, is if all goes well for

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you and you come out with the with the victory,

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how how do you and your team go about pressing

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the situation to get who's sick in the ring with you?

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I mean, that's that's you are mandatory the WBO, I

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think based on everything they have said that for them anyway,

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he's either gonna fight you or he's not going to

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be WBO champion anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So as soon as the fight's done, the team

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knows what they have to do to press for that fight.

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You know, Queensberry obviously winning a fight in Queensberry day,

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I think it Spencer Brown Day know what they need

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to do to make this happen. Otherwise you still has

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to give up the belt. So I think there's a

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there's a lot more, you know, just fight, get this

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fight done, and it's a lot more. I would say.

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Speaker 1: Stricter for for for usage and when we get another

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video of you doing the call out if.

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Speaker 2: You win, yeah, the video is video is never gonna stop.

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They're fun to do and to look back on it,

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it's a good laugh too. There's a lot of bloopers

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which we will call me play play.

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Speaker 1: One day and that would be a lot of fun,

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all right, Well bloopers aside. You've got to get ready

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for the fight before you can think it for six

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So I wish you nothing but the best against Fabio

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Wordley once again. O Cober twenty fifth on his own

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pat review at the O two Arena in London. Joseph,

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it's always a pleasure.

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Speaker 2: To talk to you. I really appreciate it. Good luck,

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pleasure brother, thank you. Good to see the

