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Speaker 3: Dennis, I do that maybe, Moredo.
Speaker 4: Oh god, I do love that stuff and I people
get mad at me.
Speaker 3: Not mad at me, that's not fair.
Speaker 4: But people have said sent me messages and things like
your your when when I always first talking about it
like it's the greatest thing ever, Like you can't do that.
It's bad, not not don't take it, but don't talk
about it so much. It is altering the the the
chemistry of your brain.
Speaker 3: It is a tool.
Speaker 4: Clearly, I'm add I'm able to accomplish more than I've
ever been able to accomplish and actually kind of keep
things on the path. I apologize to you guys, because
first of all, what I wanted to say and open
up here was thank you to Dan and Kevin for
your patients and your kindness and being part of this.
Speaker 3: You like the cal Ripkin of apology shows.
Speaker 5: Christ You's like, apologize to me before every show we've
done for two years now.
Speaker 4: Only because I know that you're taking time out. You're
here and I had It's just a frustrating thing. It's
it's no big deal, but I I'm gonna mention it
and will probably come to blow back on me because
I'm I'm frustrated.
Speaker 3: I'm just frustrated.
Speaker 4: I have a tutor for my son, and I said
to him, I'm leaving and don't forget. I know, I
know dad Tonto's coming. And I said, do you want
to work on the presentation that you're going to do
tomorrow or what do you No? No, And he names
the subject that he wants to do. He goes, no,
I'm good there, I'd really want to do this. I'm like, okay,
So I leave and I'm here and then I'm trying
to We're fussing around with the lights and trying to
look at stuff, and I see a text come across
as I'm on the monitor, and I go, oh boy.
And then I'm saying I'm snapping at Kevin. Well, I
mean I snacked. You said you do the police.
Speaker 3: I was, well, I didn't get. I didn't get.
Speaker 4: I felt like I was kind of like, frust give
me my phone, and I should have said, please give
me whatever.
Speaker 3: So well I did.
Speaker 6: I feel bad.
Speaker 3: I told you to get as your own goddamn self.
Speaker 4: I just so because I was at the other end
of the table. And so now I'm calling and the
tutor's like, hey, there's no answer. I'm like, great, well,
I can't get location services. So now I get to
call him a third party to look at the location
service because I, for whatever reason, my phone I must
have done something. I should have you look at it, actually,
because you know that stuff, don't you A little bit?
Speaker 3: I guess just to see.
Speaker 4: And I will and uh, I just to see where
he's at, and I get no, he's he's in the house.
So I go back there. I open the door and
then I do like the he refers to it as
the icenck. He's like, all right, which is now, this
is just my frustration, so fuck that you're supposed to
be on. So I said, I go, bud. He's like, well,
oh yeah, yeah, yeah, right right. I said, I told
you he was coming, and you know, and it's it's money,
and all of a sudden, I just I'm like and
then he's like, I'm not ready, and so I start
gettingssed and I'm like saying things and he's shutting down,
and I'm like, well, this is gonna go nowhere. And
I said, all right, what would you like me do?
Can you ask him to leave? I said fine, and
I did, And then the guy's coming back tomorrow anyway,
So I gotta pay for that. I told the kid
I would. I told the kid I would. He's like,
I don't worry about I don't take care of it.
But it just frustrates the shit out of me. And
I was thinking about this earlier, like that.
Speaker 6: And you pay this, you pay this money out, and
then it's Friday. Can we go to the mall? I
need some I need some new stuff. It's always and
I'd be like, yeah, when you shut up for your tutoring,
we'll get there.
Speaker 4: Well, I was thinking about something here because I go, like,
you're running around, Kevin's running around with hockey. Uh, Dan
had no no kids, run around with the best gear
or roady, right, But I go.
Speaker 3: But then I was thinking, like the three of us,
Dan lives.
Speaker 4: In theory, right, I mean, you read a lot of stuff.
I don't even no, he lives he.
Speaker 3: Lives the theory proper, theory proper.
Speaker 4: And then Kevin kind of lives in reality. And I'm
somewhere in between, trying not to get yell.
Speaker 3: I'm the guy, I'm the guy with no kids. But
yet here's how theory I live in. Right.
Speaker 5: My siblings they haven't done this in a while, but
they used to complain about each other's kids and how
they behave.
Speaker 3: And then I would give my God and then I
would give my prescription and they say, well, what do
you know you don't have kids? Yeah, I live in theory.
I laugh about because I get it. I totally get it.
Speaker 4: Well when I say you live in theory, when I'm
talking about.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, share me here there it is, but the
button's coming.
Speaker 6: Huh, the shut up button is coming.
Speaker 3: Oh no.
Speaker 4: What what it is to me is like you optimized
sleep macros supplements you've got all this down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I don't have any kids. Well, you know
what the data says.
Speaker 5: I had a guy at church doing you really disciplined.
I go, I don't have kids, man, I go, I'm
not trying to make that excuse. He goes, oh, dude,
I use my kids as an excuse all the time.
He goes, we're at church here. I don't have to
lie to yet. I'm not gonna, but I go with you.
Speaker 4: Are you you? You research stuff and then question your doctor,
and your doctor's kind of go, all right, Dan, you.
Speaker 3: Can tell by looking at you you did not have peakos.
I don't even oh pikos. By the way, I had
to clean bill of health the other day.
Speaker 6: That's great.
Speaker 3: Went to the doctor. My e kg perfect.
Speaker 4: I don't even know her mind it. My shit's all
over the place right now. Honestly it is. It's like
some things are in the uh abnormal and some things
are not. Nothing bad, nothing bad at all.
Speaker 3: Doctor goes, do you have a history of heart disease
in your family? Like? Why what's up?
Speaker 5: I'm just asking? And then he goes, hey, he goes,
he goes, he goes, do you I go, he goes no,
cause you're your ekg is great. I'm just asking if
you have a history.
Speaker 3: I go, no, he asked me, did your research after that?
Speaker 6: Doctor?
Speaker 3: Then he asked me, he goes, hey, uh you see
a dermatologist? I go, why should I? No?
Speaker 5: You're fine, You're fine. I'm just asking if you've seen one.
I go, I've never had a reason to why should
I go?
Speaker 3: No, You're good. It's almost like they're playing with you.
They're trying to poke you.
Speaker 6: A little bit.
Speaker 3: Did you have unprotected sex in the eighties? You might have.
Speaker 2: Nobod I have a magicson Jersey ill blood on it.
But the thing with like then, I I'm thinking about
Danny's got, like the supplements and the regimen and all
the stuff he's going to do when he goes out
and he does, I would somewhere we have to find
Kevin the doorbell ring cam of Danny doing sprints down
his street, not his doorbell ring cam, any neighbors doorbell
ring cam, because that has I you know that, I
would to have great joy and watch.
Speaker 5: Oh, of course, yes, but he would literally call Tommy
up and goes, bro bro, I don't even talk to well.
Speaker 3: But you want to have a good laugh. Just click play.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but brow is that Danny like Kevin is like
you know, it probably listens to you goes. Yeah, try
that with three kids in six am hockey practice. It's
like impossible. That's why I say reality for gud.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard, I've heard.
Speaker 6: The run of the parking lot. I just don't.
Speaker 3: I've heard that.
Speaker 5: Like the hardest part of parenting is when your kids
joined sports.
Speaker 3: It just it takes on a life of its own.
The expense, the travel, it depends everybody. Everybody who runs
these sports tall their their parents. Your kid could be
a Major League or an NFL NB necessarily.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, you've been in no right, I.
Speaker 3: Would take a little bit.
Speaker 6: I would.
Speaker 4: There's some that probably talked D one scholarship stuff, I
mean potentially or taut who's come out of our program
that's gone D one. So then may think that I
don't know, I.
Speaker 3: Know somebody who just two kids playing travel soccer.
Speaker 4: Almost eight hundred dollars for.
Speaker 3: Uniforms for uniforms for uniforms.
Speaker 5: Which is literally shirt shorts, socks and numbers on them.
Speaker 4: I don't know how that compares. And I think that's
just the uniform, right, and not the kid, yes, and
not but not the not the shoot, not the cleats, No,
the cleat. That's so it's like with you, I don't
know what you're paying. And this would be travel.
Speaker 2: I don't know the last time it wasn't built in.
I think it was like two hundred for the jersey in.
Speaker 4: The socks, okay, and the shell, and then how much
for like the helmet the stick.
Speaker 3: Well, that's all you got to buy anyway, the actual
retail price.
Speaker 4: I got to think you're a grand on between the skates,
the stick, the helmets broke and they broke a stick
about three weeks ago, and it was three seventy God
damn dude.
Speaker 6: But I know again I'm bitching about it.
Speaker 5: We know a guy whose daughter plays competitive hockey, right,
and she lost her stick, so he lost his crap
on it.
Speaker 3: He lost his crap, buys her a new stick, goes
up into her room.
Speaker 5: He goes, this place hasn't been cleaned in months, it
looks like, goes behind the curtain, finds the stick she lost.
Speaker 4: Oh but I mean that's got two sticks.
Speaker 3: That's a kid, that's a kid.
Speaker 2: We were sitting there during the semi final game against Victor,
and I think that Victor kids broke five sticks during
the game. I'm like, who, I feel bad for those parents.
That's sixteen hundred right there in half on the ice. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a racket. They won't let you use wood
or anything. You got to use the special brand, right, Well.
Speaker 2: You don't have to use anything, you use any want.
Nobody uses wood anymore because it sucks.
Speaker 4: It sucks, so you use the other one and they're
and they're more expensive and they probably do last longer
for the most part. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's what
I would think.
Speaker 6: I mean, they they don't start breaking till like high school.
Speaker 4: I just the way I was thinking about it, I go,
we there is a Dan, a Kevin, and a Me
and every friend group. I really think that because the
more I think about it, because I'm going, you got
you got Danny, who's trying to live to one hundred
and twelve.
Speaker 3: We like the modern family of podcasts.
Speaker 5: We're a blended podcast of two parents, three guys. Okay,
so two are divorced, two or two have been married,
three have been married, two are currently married. Yes, there's
six boys between the three of us.
Speaker 3: Yea and uh yeah. I mean it's like it's like
a blend the family of podcasts.
Speaker 4: But the other thing is you're trying to live to
one hundred and twelve taking supplements that nobody can pronounce it.
Speaker 6: No, no, no.
Speaker 5: I am trying to live as healthy as possible till
either die or Jesus comes back. Okay, Okay, your lifestyle
determines your death style.
Speaker 3: James Headfield Metallica and Kevin's what's gonna happen?
Speaker 6: I'm gonna all both say no.
Speaker 4: And Kevin's trying to survive to Tuesday, and I'm trying
to remember why I opened the fridge fucking five minutes ago.
I just going, it's that's that's it. That's the way
it is. That's just the way it is. We got
a uh, and wasn't here for this one?
Speaker 3: My phone around? Leave that? Okay, I got a You
didn't say please again, and I just said.
Speaker 4: Is my phone around?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's not a please. He didn't say thank
you for your handing it to him.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, can.
Speaker 3: You call Alex little Hitler? Who you mouse your tongue?
Speaker 4: I gotta tell you guys something like I I'm I
don't know whether to say this or not because I
know which.
Speaker 3: Means say it.
Speaker 4: No, I know, I know, I know that, I know that,
but I don't know how it's going to land with people.
So we have to do uh in the mental health
counseling classes, and.
Speaker 3: That's where it's going to go.
Speaker 4: And I'm I'm in a group class.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, a student Nerva albums and that your brain's out.
Speaker 4: No, no, So we have to do You have to
lead a group at one point, and you have a partner,
and you do it well. For some reason, there's a
gap and you can't have a day a class without
somebody running a psycho educational group for thirty minutes. So
the people who would go next week are supposed to
move up to this week, but they didn't want to.
So I'm watching all this go back and forth a
week ago, and I go, I'll do it.
Speaker 3: So I do a group yesterday.
Speaker 4: And I compared. I compared boxing to group therapy because
group therapy is different. And it's just like I said,
in boxing, it's the punch you didn't throw.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we talked about this one. The one punch
you didn't throw, one step you didn't take.
Speaker 4: So I did do this in a small group and
brought the and ye, and I said, I'm going to
do it in the large group. That way, I didn't
have to really prepare anything else. But there were other
nuances around it, like the greatest exactly right, right, But
I mean, you are playing the greatest hits. I'm not
gonna lie, but you gotta be able to also play
in the moment, right, And you've got to do things
that are called linking.
Speaker 3: And myself, you gotta have these more fluff you here
and now.
Speaker 5: You know you're a big you're a big fan in
the in the in the in the bar community.
Speaker 4: So he's, uh, you gotta have like here and now moments.
So there are things take your.
Speaker 2: Shirt off next, so there are things you have to
do shirtless, mental health.
Speaker 3: So I do this. It makes you more raw, more real.
Speaker 2: Ladies, ladies, It's like when you go on, touch your
bare feet to the grass.
Speaker 4: Yes, grounding, grounding, take your shirt off.
Speaker 3: It's open opportunity everybody. I do it every day, man
and ladies. The grounding mat, so it's not real.
Speaker 4: Ground Wait, you have a grounding math.
Speaker 3: It's got me a grounding mat for Christmas.
Speaker 2: It's also that it's that piece of trip that you
buy for the die when you live in an apartment
New York.
Speaker 4: I got one of those two from the grounding mat.
It's where she sends him when she's sick of here
in his mouth. You go to your grounding mat.
Speaker 3: So wait, let me finish this.
Speaker 6: Sorry, it's fine.
Speaker 3: I have a follow up with your die.
Speaker 4: Yes, but there's things you have to do in there.
You have to talk about the group that came last,
that went last week, and did anybody have questions? And
so the people did it last week, did a great
one about really coping mechanisms and things, and gave us
a tree and had us right like, you know, things
that we do that we probably shouldn't do as self care.
You know, I've got drinking, smoking and all this shit
in there. And then they go up to the leaves
and you're supposed to put like the things we should do,
the meditation, the exercise to taking a walk right exactly.
And one kid made a really really I really like
this guy. His name is Brian, and he made a
great observation. He goes the leaves of a tree fall
off and he goes, it's just like me doing the
healthy things. I can do it for so long, but
then the leaves fall off and I'm back to the
trunk where I have my drinking.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: So, when I came in because of that exercise, in
all honesty, I have been to the gym four days
since that last class, and I, you know, just in
terms of schedule and stuff, and I have been eating
healthier salmon, spinach, chicken, no cheese, no, you know, just stuff.
And I so I bring that up and then you
have to go through the confidentiality stuff. I do the
whole thing, and I go through, I do the group.
Here's where I get uncomfortable because afterwards they the professor
sits down and says, how do you think it went?
Speaker 6: Just one on one with you?
Speaker 4: Or with the entire group? And he says to me,
how do you run?
Speaker 3: Is this like what the cop pulls your goes, uh,
why do you think I pulled?
Speaker 1: Joe?
Speaker 3: But this would be like having an air check in
front of.
Speaker 4: People.
Speaker 2: Yeah, understand saying the guy more Stan Mayne or more
Rick McKenzie.
Speaker 4: And the guy is cool as ship, he's more Stan,
so he uh, he sits down and goes, how do
you think it went, and I go, I don't know.
I thought it went pretty good, pretty well. You know
there was anything you would have done different? And I said, yeah,
I probably would have tried to link something or whatever,
But I don't know.
Speaker 3: You're you're trying to like make sure.
Speaker 4: You're you're hitting the things you supposed to, but bringing
your authentic self and making this about step into the
ring next time you're in a group. And how when
you are leading group as a therapist, how do you
get people to step into the ring?
Speaker 3: How it's it's that makes sense? Well, Danny, it's the same.
Speaker 4: Thing I said on on the radio when we would
do something and I would really try to prepare something out,
how do I get you to give a shit about
what we're talking about right because a million other people
are going to talk about, well, why are we going
to talk about it and do it better or whatever?
Speaker 3: Not duplicatable content.
Speaker 4: So I was kind of the way I thought of this,
and and so I opened up with the gloves, talked
about stepping into the ring, then talked to like all
this shit. So he says, how do you think it
would here?
Speaker 3: A couple of dick jokes over here, I dropped. I
dropped close with.
Speaker 4: You want to know how I closed, motherfucker, I said,
Mike and say fuck off. But no, I talked about
there's a there's a young woman in our in the
in the group. She's I think she's when I say young,
she's like twenty one. And I find her to be
so funny. And we sat next to each other last
semester in a class and we used to fucking laugh
our asses off and ecuse.
Speaker 3: It's me.
Speaker 4: Right, And then she became my counselor when we had
to do counseling because she was in a different class,
so like she had to counsel me, and I said
a ton of shit in her like I just said
ship that I may not even say to my own therapy.
I just fucking bad it all out.
Speaker 3: So radio, that's right, I'm not So.
Speaker 4: This is where uh so, we did the privilege walk
a while back, and I've mentioned that where they ask
you different questions, and all I want to say about
that to everybody was and again, some people's road to
wherever they are just had less potholes. That's really what
I believe. It's not that you didn't grow your ass off.
It's not that you didn't work your ass off. It
just means that sometimes you had a little more maybe
better network, better connections. That's a little more privilege.
Speaker 3: It just is. It's just the way life is.
Speaker 4: So this girl is a minority, and she was way
in the back, way in the back and of the
privilege walk.
Speaker 3: And somebody said in the class, they were like.
Speaker 4: The professor who did that class, different professor than the
one in the group. Therapy says, but it's all the
same people pretty much right from classic class. That professor said, uh,
you know, what did you think about it? And somebody
in the class said, I thought of and names this
woman and says, I thought of her and how she
may feel being in the back of the room. It's
basically what she said. I maybe I'm not getting it accurate, accurate,
said now.
Speaker 3: Danny, careful, fucking careful. So I was gonna go there too,
I know, I know't, but historically speaking, hang on a second.
Speaker 4: So I in that moment, because I don't want this person.
Speaker 3: I like this person, and.
Speaker 4: I said, and I think she said, I didn't even
really get off the back wall, and I went, I
have no idea because I was the first one to
the candy ball, and that's true.
Speaker 3: He's like Whodricks who mounds.
Speaker 4: So so last night how I closed the group was
somebody said something. I go, you know what, I want
to bring something up here because we're all in training.
This is our shadow boxing right now. Right shadow boxing
is how boxers figured it out. You can tell a
lot about a boxer by watching them shadow boxing.
Speaker 3: It's the footwork. It's that kind of shit.
Speaker 4: You know, it looks funny, But the really good boxers
they fucking got it down and they know because they're
watching themselves. And it's just like listening to yourself if
you're doing a podcast or a radio show and just critiquing.
So what I said was, you know what, I want
to go back to the privilege walk because I'll tell
you what I remember. You know, I got to the
candie bowl first, and I said, and the person was
sitting right next to me, and I said, and we
know that she was there, And I go, but I go,
but here's the fucking thing. I go, Fuck it, We're
all here, and that's the thing we should remember.
Speaker 3: Fuck it.
Speaker 4: We're all here, no matter how what road you took
to get here. Potholes not potholes. Fuck it, we're all here,
and I said, what are we going to do with it?
And that's kind of how I ended the group.
Speaker 6: Did you get a standing ovation when you no?
Speaker 4: But they now want to make fuck they want to
make T shirts. And then later on, when he was
kind of really critiquing, I'll tell you what he said,
he dropped an F bomb and somebody went, oh my god,
I've never heard him swear. And I go, well, that's
the magic vibe. Have people to see shit. But here's
where I get uncomfortable, daddy, because uh, some people said
to me, like, I wish you had slowed down, but
you only had thirty minutes. So to not be a dick,
I go. One of the biggest problems I have is
letting the silence sit. I go for thirty years dead
air was a bad thing. And so we're going on.
So then it's the professor's time to talk, and he says,
I've been teaching for a while. He goes, and I
certainly did this in my own education and things, and
he said there was another student at one point that
I often think of who came in and I guess
he played a Bruce Springsteen song on he played I'm
on Fire on a guitar, and then somehow let a group.
He goes it was one of the best I've ever seen,
and I think of he goes this tonight was absolutely
one of the best groups I have ever seen run
and he and he meant it for everybody because everybody
was participating. So it's not just but the way it
was facilitated, which was me the metaphors that were used,
all this stuff.
Speaker 3: Also, yeah, cursing the cursing box.
Speaker 4: Right, but he goes it was authentically so it nice
to hear, right, nice to hear. And then some people
had some some what I thought was very valuable a
critique that they said, but he was saying really really
nice things, even pulls. Besides after class, and goes, I
hope that you have the opportunity to run groups.
Speaker 3: I think you'd be.
Speaker 4: Excellent at it. And I know when I went upstairs
to that small group there was some shit being talked
about me because I got into.
Speaker 3: The room last and Eyring got all quiet.
Speaker 4: Well, no, this one person got quiet, and I looked
right after my I go your face says it all, motherfucker,
I know you.
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day on the podcast, I had talked about President Trump's
reaction to the death.
Speaker 3: What oh, I didn't hear this.
Speaker 4: You didn't hear it.
Speaker 3: No, I heard about the reaction.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Cohen died and Cohen looks like he's gonna die.
Uh yeah, Muller died. Is it mother Mueller? They call him, Okay,
they call him, So Muller died. And President Trump said
good or something else right, and went on. And all
I was saying was it became it wasn't really about Trump.
Wasn't the intended thing. It was like, it's a very
human thing to be petty at times, and you know
what I'm saying. But then it became like President Trump
has done things that no one else has ever done,
Like the first time he ran so I'm when I
this up. I was referring to twenty sixteen, and I
just said, I don't know that anybody on any side
of the aisle at that moment thought he was going
to win the nomination at that moment when they were
a bunch of people when he's calling him little Mark Rubio.
But it started to be people are like, you can
do that, right, right? You know Jeb Bush? I mean,
did not everybody think Jeb Bush would be representing the.
Speaker 5: Republican Party because, like you want to talk about like
a good old boys club, Jeb Bush was like the
vice president.
Speaker 4: So whether like him or not, that was my That
was kind of my point, and I go, he has
never not been who he is, no matter what we
could say, not presidential, I get it, but he's always
been that guy. Yeah, at least in office and probably
throughout his entire life.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: The only time he wasn't that guy was on The
Apprentice where they.
Speaker 3: Could edit him out. So we got we got this.
Speaker 4: And so Laura said something about I don't well, I
think he gets in here. This person writes, I got
a question for you and your brand, your band of
misfits and sex toys about her comment around dumb quote
dumb educated white males. The data don't back you up.
Trump's twenty twenty four win came with a more diverse
coalition than ever big gains with Hispanic voters and men
of color.
Speaker 3: So I'm big with the blacks.
Speaker 5: I'm a huge fan of the blacks.
Speaker 3: Great relationship with the blacks. So if you let me
see what I'd say. If you call that.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm getting texts at the same time.
Speaker 3: The Mexicans call they want me to build the wall.
Speaker 4: So if you call that dumb white males, you're just
insulting millions of non white voters who looked at the
same facts and still chose him. Do you apply that
same standard to black and Hispanic voters who moved toward Trump.
Don't even get me started on the gun discussion. If
strict gun laws and democratic leadership were the magic sleition
in Chicago, Baltimore, Oakland, Filly in Detroit would be the
safest places in America. Roches not some of the most violent.
What scares me is that you guys would vote for
a half dead guy or someone like Kamala who absolutely
is not fit for the presidency, than Trump, who was
actually making a difference. So here's I want to respond
to this, and I I was going to write it,
and I go now I'll do it on the podcast
because I got the message right, I got a message,
and I do appreciate this message because things get interesting.
And what I was referring to was when he first
came on, because I didn't see as much name calling
this time. Matter of fact, I think I said in
that podcast you were here that I thought Trump was
somewhat less Trumpish when Biden was not doing well in
the one debate, to the point where they took him
out of the presidency, right or I wouldn't let him run,
not out of the president, but we wouldn't let it run. So, oh,
first run Trump was a political grenade. He was in
a suit that was Trump because he was coming in
and he was doing things that I don't think I've
ever seen. I didn't I don't remember anybody calling names.
Speaker 3: Not an American president.
Speaker 5: Well I remember, not in the way they mean Bush
newcccus like through mud.
Speaker 3: But they were like no, but they weren't like calling.
Speaker 7: Names little Marco, Rubio, you little hands like no, nobody
was plitterally getting there, Christie, Yes, like there was none
of that.
Speaker 3: Ever, Right, That is krispy Kree, Right.
Speaker 4: So that's what I'm talking about, not the whole presidency,
not every policy. That's not what I was mentioning nor
was she, and and not not even this person or
any person's group chat has running commentary on all this shit.
Speaker 3: I not at all the version.
Speaker 4: And this is where I actually agree with part of
what the guy said. Trump to me built the coalition
that surprised a lot of people did. That's real, that happened.
I can't really deny that. But here's the problem, and
this is where to me it goes sideways. We have
completely as a society lost our ability to separate a
point from a person. Well, yeah, we can't do it.
And the second you say anything about someone, people assume
you're saying everything about them. And that's why I said,
we are now like diehard sports fans for political groups.
And it's not that you're wrong, it's you're dead fucking wrong.
How could you say this?
Speaker 5: I think Adam Carolla was talking about this the other day,
how they like Jay Leno or somebody, did a bit
where they went on the streets of Burbank and they
asked people about certain policies and they told them who
the president, who the person was behind it, and then
they started like ambaf and everything they just said that
they agreed with because they don't like the guy.
Speaker 4: No, right exactly, And but but that was before Trump. Yeah, yeah, right,
So that's what I'm saying. And the second you say
one thing about someone and everybody thinks it's about that,
It's like, I'm not writing a biography, right, I'm making
a point. And that was all it was. She was
making a point. And I do think in the beginning
it was w W E style. I mean, that's the only
thing I can think. Is that a fair comparison. You
guys are wrestling.
Speaker 3: Fans crooked Hillary see see, like you'd.
Speaker 6: Be in jail.
Speaker 3: I know the system is rigged because I benefit from it.
I mean nobody. I mean Dave Chappelle's like Dariel, Yeah,
I know it's rigged. Dave Chappelle benefit.
Speaker 4: Like we did this thing on the last podcast. It
was like, uh uh, if you're rich, it's classy. If
you're poor, it's trashy. And it was getting money from
the government. If you're rich, it's classy. If you're poor,
it's trashy. Right, I mean, yeah, says benefit.
Speaker 3: That's what he's talking about, corporate welfare. So I's a
great example. There's a stadium big built on Abbott Road
where the Buffalo Bills are going to be playing. How
about you? That is is corporate welfare?
Speaker 4: I yes, I don't know on that one, only because
that money is in the budget for the arts, and
so if it wasn't or entertainment, let's put it that way,
and if it wasn't going to go to the bills,
it was going, yeah, it's going for the same thing.
And so my only thing is that because I had
I think I talked about this where I felt like
I was under pressure at my cousin's house and he's going, hey,
I above that stadium, and I didn't want to get in.
I'll see this is what everybody says. But hang on
because as Greg Connors told us, right, it was Greg
that said this that, and he had done some digging
on this stuff and said that it's in the budget.
So if it's not spent here on entertainment or the arts,
it's going to be spent somewhere else. It is not
going into some other line in the budget.
Speaker 6: And how many stadiums are we funded in New York
City as New York Tech state tax payers?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Yankee Stadium, Uh, the City Field?
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I mean, but I hear you.
Speaker 3: I hear what people are saying. But look, I'm happy
the Bills getting the stadium. I like my football team,
and we all have to.
Speaker 8: Admit when we are like biased towards certain things. Okay,
but you know, on the list of things that New
York needs to pay for, I think the arts are
kind of down on the list.
Speaker 6: Couldn't we have just repurposed Rhino Stadium for the Nobles.
Speaker 4: It's already there.
Speaker 3: That would be the directors, the Erector set. It's still there. Yeah,
it's still is the Bill Gray still there? No, No,
there was nobody around. They had made no sense.
Speaker 4: Let me go back to, uh, the Trump thing, because
here's what I wanted to say, and and my point.
You can think whatever you want about Trump and still
admit something that I have said repeatedly. And I think
that two things can be not right at the same time.
But you can have I don't like this guy or
whatever and still go, yeah, but that's kind of true.
He might be and I've said this many, many, many times,
the most effective president ever at using the office as
a bully pulpit. And that's what the president's he is.
It's really about being a bully pulpit. Not the nicest,
not the commest, not the guy you want your mom
uh taken to Thanksgiving dinner if she's divorced or widowed,
that's right, Not the guy you want reading to your
kids tonight. But in terms of grabbing attention and bending
the conversation, the guy's different level. Yes, I mean, I'm sorry,
he just is. And that is where this actually gets
interesting to me, because when you start thinking about this,
it isn't about Trump. It's about how we think. And
that it's where I want to say to this guy.
His name is Tom, and Tom is really cool, writes
a lot, so I don't want to. But we hear
one phrase like dumb, uneducated white males, and instead of
asking what's the actual point being made in this conversation,
we go straight to which side do you want? And that,
to me, is the problem. And once you do that,
the conversation's over. It's now longer, now becomes an ad
hominem yea, because now it is just about what side
a you want, and it's it's to me, it's jerseys,
it's blue and red, you know, and what are you wearing?
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Speaker 9: Closest to the pin all right, with the new MLB
season about to kick off, Oh, donnie, you're gonna win
in their third straight World Series title. What year was
the first MLB game played outside the United States?
Speaker 4: Oh? What year was it first played outside the Wait?
Major League Baseball?
Speaker 6: Major League Baseball?
Speaker 3: Okay, regular season or spring training?
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, don't care about spring training. Didn't say
spring training.
Speaker 3: It's okay, a regular season game outside the United States,
outside of the United States? Yeah, okay?
Speaker 4: Well what year?
Speaker 3: Oh god, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm saying this.
Speaker 3: Year, and I don't think I'm that far off, but
go ahead. Who among us does not like a nice rack?
Speaker 2: What year was the first breast augmentation using silicone implants?
Speaker 3: Okay, so they used to be like.
Speaker 4: I remember watching the CEO of a big company get
buzzed and start talking about the first time he felt
fake tits and they felt like cement, and I go, oh,
my god, she must have been like a pigeon, and
or no, like a statue. And I remember one of
my other bosses giving me a look, and I goes,
that's exactly what was like a go, well, she stood
there long enough. Pigeons was coming shit on her. He
was so drunk. He fucking laughed forever and loved me.
But they were getting really uncomfortable because I said that.
So the first Silicone Implants got a year dandy, I
think so. Silicon Valley, Silicon Valley. Oh, I hate this.
I'm gonna write down the year. I want to change
it so badly, but I'm going to write in parenth
seats is.
Speaker 2: John Hyatt moved to Nashville, Tennessee at the age of eighteen,
taking a job.
Speaker 3: As a songwriter for a Tree Music publishing company. How
much was he paid per week.
Speaker 6: Over there? No, I'm taking what you're doing. I'm keeping
I'm putting.
Speaker 4: Like my original thought, like my knee jerk response, and
putting in parentheses, and then I'm writing the other one down,
just to see.
Speaker 3: If I can get it, if I can get it right,
All right? Go on. Tom Arnold is.
Speaker 2: Playing the Kevin Media Room this weekend at Comedy to
Carlson and was famously married to Roseanne bar for four years.
How many episodes of the television show Roseanne were made?
Speaker 3: Wait a minute with him or without him? Just the
episode just eles, just show Roseanne? Are we talking about Okay?
We're talking about Roseanne. Were you a fan? I watched it.
I wasn't a fan, but I watched it else to watch,
but it's the show stopped and then they.
Speaker 4: Rebooted it again. N it wasn't called Roseanne when they
rebooted it.
Speaker 3: No, it was.
Speaker 6: It wasn't.
Speaker 3: It's called The Connors. The Connors came after she got
fired for making a comment.
Speaker 4: About did they ever Oh, she did die?
Speaker 3: They did, but no, no, no, Dan died.
Speaker 5: Dan died on the show, and then they killed her
off when they rebooted the show, and then they called
it the Connors. So there was a Roseanne, then there
was a Roseanne reboot, and then they'd rename it the
Connors because they had to kill her off.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm trying to remember if she that actually okay,
they did air. Those episodes did hit the air. Oh
oh yeah, okay, all right, math here, God damn it.
I don't even know how many years the show was
on it.
Speaker 3: But they acted like the last season never happened.
Speaker 4: I don't I never watched. Uh.
Speaker 3: I don't know why it was on Tuesday nights at nine.
Speaker 4: And that's why Tuesdays nights at nine. I think I
was in college Tuesday.
Speaker 3: Who's the Boss was on a day?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 3: I got it? Go ahead?
Speaker 2: When the Museum of Modern Art opened to New York
City in nineteen twenty nine, how many pieces were displayed
in the inaugural exhibition?
Speaker 4: How many pieces in nineteen twenty nine?
Speaker 2: How many pieces of art were in the inaugural display
at the Museum of Modern.
Speaker 3: Art in nineteen twenty nine when it opened.
Speaker 2: Okay, and last, but not least, how many members are
currently in the United Nations?
Speaker 3: Oh, there's gonna be one less after I've done here.
They will see how powerful you people are. I'm an
on edge kid. Waigo you win?
Speaker 5: Currently, it's kind of like that time when Sammy Watkins
was ripping on certain bills fans who ripped on him?
Speaker 3: Yes, And I'm like, are you what he's talking about? No,
he's talking about Heckler's.
Speaker 2: All right, so what do we Okay, so we'll go
back to the back to the top, which way he
wasn't trunk was the first MLB game played outside the
United States?
Speaker 3: I want to say seventy six because Toronto?
Speaker 4: All right, I couldn't remember when Toronto. No, I was
trying to remember when the Montreal expos came into existence?
Speaker 3: Were they before or after? You're the same year?
Speaker 4: They were the same year? I you, seventy six does
not sound like a bad gas, I said nineteen sixty three.
Speaker 2: The Blue Jays came into existence in the seventy seven,
But it's nineteen sixty nine with the Montreal.
Speaker 3: Exposed was sixty nine? Okay?
Speaker 4: All right, so I'm off by six there, off by seven?
Can't we're close?
Speaker 2: What year was the first breast augmentation using silicone implants performed?
Speaker 3: I said nineteen seventy six. I said nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 6: It is night feteen sixty two.
Speaker 3: Oo. Okay.
Speaker 2: How much did John Hyatt make writing songs at Treat
Music Publishing Company?
Speaker 4: All right, my original guest was eighteen dollars a week.
Speaker 3: I was twenty five dollars a week. I wrote twenty three.
Speaker 6: It is twenty five dollars a week.
Speaker 3: Wow, Damny.
Speaker 4: Sorry.
Speaker 3: How many seasons of Roseanne?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take that back. How many episodes of Roseanne
were made?
Speaker 3: I said to sixty. But I'm wondering if we're gonna
have to have a flag on this one.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't even know how long the show ran, I
said one hundred and forty six. It's two hundred and
thirty running over ten. I just lost right there because
I lost it. It was ten seasons. I had nine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't even remember. I remember people loving it.
Speaker 3: I just I never watched it. Well.
Speaker 5: It embraced it, embraced the idea of that lowergitals family.
Speaker 3: What's that?
Speaker 6: An educated white people?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Trump voting for Trump?
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I just I just it was on when she brought
the show back, she talked about how they would be
Trump voters and today.
Speaker 4: All right, so I think I lost right.
Speaker 2: How many pieces in the inaugural display the museum amount
of art would opened to nineteen twenty nine?
Speaker 3: What did you say, Daniel? I said eight.
Speaker 4: That's probably better, guess, I said twenty six.
Speaker 3: It is ninety oh oh wow, okay, all right, I
did start with eight.
Speaker 2: The museum was originally owned eight pieces in one dry,
eight paintings in one dry.
Speaker 3: So, Dan, what did you say?
Speaker 6: Nine?
Speaker 3: I said eight? Oh, well, the display was display all right,
the answer is ninety right, yeah, okay. But how many
members are currently in the United Nations? I said one
hundred and eleven in the I had come back. You
have no idea.
Speaker 4: I have absolutely no clue.
Speaker 3: A number I did, but I have not only so
many countries, Billy, No, I know there's so much. They
were going to create a new one in I ran right,
but I went, I went like low, it's going to
be awest the United States.
Speaker 4: I said, thirty six.
Speaker 6: You just got your ass kicked.
Speaker 3: Ye one hundred and ninety three. All right, there you go,
I win again. Well, I know the batter, Danny.
Speaker 4: No, I that wasn't my reule. But I knew I
was losing anyway because I couldn't come back from the
Roseanna one.
Speaker 3: There was no way. No, I don't think so, because
I was already like, you could have ninety. You could
have hit the pin on the on the last two.
Uh what was the second to last one?
Speaker 6: The ninety for the museum.
Speaker 3: I would have no idea on that one. I would
have no idea.
Speaker 4: In the modern or nineteen twenty nine when it opened up.
Speaker 3: I would have no idea.
Speaker 4: And then better and then the other I was. I
actually wrote down one hundred and twelve. I just said
thirty six because I figured I'm gonna fucking lose anyway.
Speaker 3: And if Danny says one hundred and whatever, I'll go
to the opposite then maybe maybe yeah, because these things go,
I'm a non educated like, what are we gonna do?
That's it? All right?
Speaker 4: Well? Dating nice win, very good.
Speaker 3: I got it. Before you leave.
Speaker 4: I want to try something with the light before you leave.
Speaker 3: We don't have to do it right now. That's all
for Kevin Muir. Another good game, Kevin. I enjoy those.
I actually miss closest. I know you're right, miss what
you do at the courthouse, Well, then go do it.
Oh yeah, I'm working on it. We got to revamped.
We got a couple of new stuff though, new questions. Yeah, okay,
all right, it was Bill's bit. I just went and
executed it. They did I did it. Sometimes let's let's
let to let you out here.
Speaker 6: Get some questions about twenty twenty eight when he has
twenty minutes of free time.
Speaker 3: But that's not true. I think he's gonna run a
group on it next week. I think I still have
what's doing in group? What's doing a group therapy? Oh?
I think you should do that. What's doing a group therapy?
That'd be great. You guess what disease do you have? Now?
Speaker 4: I regret telling that story like I was a douche.
Speaker 3: You love it? Yeah, yeah, it's a mental health conflict.
Supposed to be confidentible.
Speaker 4: I didn't talk about anybody. I talked about a group
that I led in the in the theme of.
Speaker 3: It, but I didn't talk we want to play what
you do in a group therapy? I didn't even I
didn't even see what you're here for? What's got you down?
All right? All right?
Speaker 6: For Dan?
Speaker 3: How do the Yankees do it? It's no score. They
just started. There was there's a rain delay. Okay, where
are they playing? San Francisco?
Speaker 4: I know, but it's on Prime Netflix. It's on Netflix
to Netflix tonight. Okay for Dan BURRELLO for Kevin Mueller,
I'm Bill Moran.
Speaker 3: See you next night. It doesn't know
Speaker 4: The