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Speaker 9: Meaning a live man like this man you letting butterfly

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flapping his wing, dig down in a forest.

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Speaker 4: Man, it gonna cause a tree.

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Speaker 10: Fall, letting five thousand miles away. Man, nobody seen, nobody.

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You don't need to know many.

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Speaker 6: Luck you a little story and you got directed like that.

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Speaker 11: I win.

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Speaker 9: Man, don't like to dang on the.

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Speaker 4: Panel, man man Man, All right, Mark, welcome to the

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jay Bird and show. Hey doing that good?

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, I'm obviously happy to have you back on

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as far as the conversation goes. But uh, you and

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I on our last conversation talked about how uh Abigail

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Spanberger was going to win the Virginia gubernatorial race, and

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much to my chagrin, we were completely and totally right

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on that front.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were. We were more right than we thought

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because not of this you win.

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Speaker 2: Not only was it not close, but it was an

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incredible blowout. And the other races weren't even close either.

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Speaker 4: Right, even the the ag race, which is the one

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where you'd think, you know, there would be ah, there'd

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be a chance because you know what he was saying

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about just fantasizing about killing the children of his political opponents,

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which you know, you'd think would be a disqualifying gaff,

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as they say, But dude, to go down the damage here. Uh,

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I think the real story is the death of Republican

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identity politics, right, the idea that, well, if we just

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run our own then they'll all vote for her. Let

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me let me pull this up. Uh So for context,

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Spanberger won Black voters plus eighty six, Asian plus sixty,

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Hispanic plus thirty four, and white people by I believe

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plus six or plus eleven regardless across the board. Just

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a astonishingly poor showing by the church lady. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Who who could have thought it might be a bad

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idea to run a Jamaican lady to be the governor

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of Virginia during a time when the Republican Party is

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all in on anti immigration politics.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean when you say it like that, it

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almost sounds like it was a bad idea, you know,

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almost not sure maybe the next time we try it

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Speaker 2: It's interesting, Yeah, that she, I mean, she got her

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Speaker 3: But if you look at the lieutenant governor race.

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Speaker 2: Also, she won every ethnicity except for white, which went

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Speaker 3: Uh to mister Reid. That's even in Virginia.

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Speaker 2: That's that's a pretty uh, a pretty nasty number like

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it in a year where you had, you know, I blow,

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the first black woman to ever run for governor of Virginia.

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Speaker 3: At the top of the ticket, you had a Hispanic.

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Speaker 2: Age who, in fairness he did win Latino men, I suppose,

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which I guess that's your your consolation prize.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we didn't learn anything. We already knew.

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Speaker 2: You win elections in the twenty first century by getting

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your base excited and getting them to come out to vote.

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That's exactly what happened in twenty twenty one with Youngkin.

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Speaker 4: Well, and I think that's sort of an interesting thing. Uh,

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aware of Mark because this whole woke right debacle, I assume.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, she was the James Lindsay right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I think I've been I think I've been

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banned of a restraining order from talking about them because

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I mentioned too much. But in all seriousness, right that

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that sort of canard came up about a year and

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a half ago, right, just as kind of a way

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to smear people that liberals don't like. But what's been

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interesting has been the conclusion of the losses in both

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Virginia and New Jersey, which, look, man, there's a very boring,

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normal nuts and boat bolts of politics explanation for these

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two races, which is bad candidates astonishingly that in the

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case of Virginia, the fact that Donald Trump rightly wrongly

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was seen as threatening the jobs of roughly eight percent

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the working people at our state. And also, aunt, let's

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not you know, very lead here, the fact that generally

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whichever party is in power does poorly in off year

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elections and midterms. Right, Like, this isn't some sort of

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like secret science here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'd throw in a fourth one, which is that since

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the rise of Trump, there's been a slow shift towards

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Democrats killing it in off year elections. That used to

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be something that Republicans performed well at. Now it's the opposite.

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have the advantage in off year, and that's just purely

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a change of change of voter demographics.

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Speaker 3: Like like you said, you could also hang a little

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bit of.

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Speaker 2: A blame on the on the big man here because

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you had the shutdown, which does not seem to have

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accomplished anything. I thought at the time maybe the goal was, well,

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let them shut it down and then we'll just we'll

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lay off a boatload of these federal not layoff, We'll

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get rid of a boat load of these federal employees.

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Speaker 3: But they didn't do that.

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Speaker 2: Right after our election and did the Democrats in Congress

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agreed to reopen the government, and the White House gotten.

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Speaker 3: Out there for it.

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Speaker 2: They rehired the few thousand people that they had they

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had fired during the shutdown, and it seems to me

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that they got exactly exactly what they want. They got

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a boost in the election, and they successfully blamed the

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Republicans in Congress for Obamacare, which is actually pretty impressive

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politically if you think about it.

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Speaker 4: Well, Mark, I've been reliably informed that the real people

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we need to blame for this are the so called

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woke right, which includes Tucker Carlson, really, anyone who wasn't

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a liberal up until twenty sixteen, and most importantly, anyone

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within two degrees of separation from one Nicholas JF. Windes

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clearly right, that's a cynical ploy, Right, that's a cynical

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take to say everyone I don't like is the reason

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that we lost this election. That, let's be honest, we

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were going to lose anyway. But it's been interesting. I

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don't know if you picked up on this. There's been

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a there's been a deliberate attempt to saddle JD. Vans

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right the VP with the woke right and by extension

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losses in twenty twenty five and then assumed losses in

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twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's very Obviously they're trying to do politicking

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in advance of twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Because he is right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it means very little twenty so far away

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from the election, but he is the front runner right now.

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He's got the name recognition, he is vice president, he

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has a lot of support. He gets a lot of

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people younger people, which is faint praise when you're talking

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about the Republican Republican Party. That just means it's some

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people under fifty. Because he's you know, he's a millennial.

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They're just trying to decap him in advance so they

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can shove like tag crews down our throat or something

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like that. That was that's just my assumption.

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Speaker 3: I don't have any insider information or anything like that.

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Speaker 4: All right, Well, I mean, look, uh, that's what I

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think is gonna happen, So I think we can just

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confirm it, right, based off of my hunch. That's how

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podcast works, I guess. But it is one of those

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things where it's is sort of disappointing to see the

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GOP learn absolutely nothing because you know, we mentioned this

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last time, right, the consequences of failure have never been higher. Right,

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you have the so called Seditious six literally saying we

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will send Pete Hegseth to jail, we will ship him

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off to the Hague, right for war crimes. And it's like, okay, well, remember,

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like I don't know, not that long ago, when they

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ship Donald Trump off to jail and got a mug shot,

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like you think they aren't gonna give it a shot.

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Speaker 2: People did take the you know, to all to talk

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about the war crimes in the Hague. And it's like

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this is violating international law because oh will the United

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States isn't subject to international law that which is.

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Speaker 3: That's true, our service members are not.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, you're not going to be forcibly extradited to

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the Hague while Donald Trump is president. But what can

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happen is if I don't even know who's going to

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be at this point, Gavin Newsom is president in twenty

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twenty nine, that absolutely can happen. In fact, it happens

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successfully to the former president of the Philippines who was

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arrested in the Philippines and shipped off to the Hague

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and is currently on trial there for essentially for killing

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drug dealers. So you know, the president is already there.

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It's a very easy way for the Democrats to do

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something to punish somebody without having the blood on their hands,

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like they say, Okay, hey, he's over, he's he's in

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Europe and he's been tried by a council of all

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the nations of the world. I have no control over it.

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I'm just the poor little, you know, lib president of

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the United States. I think people aren't taking that threat

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Speaker 4: Well, it sucks too because it's like having Charles Bronson

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cool idea, right, just having a president who's like, yeah,

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in this kind of like got awful Francis Fukuyama future

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right where every government is basically exactly the same, you

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just want some novelty, right, like we should have more.

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you know, like we've we've tried the whole you know,

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death wish thing. I guess we could probably substitute some

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others in there. I think we've not given this idea

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enough sideration.

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Speaker 3: You know, this is I mean, I.

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Speaker 2: Agree, I agree with all that. I would like to

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subscribe to your newsletter. But also yeah, I mean they

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have to. They have to punish this behavior because the

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mean that going around now is to fix everything easily

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switch like when it comes to like these drug traffickers

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and pretty much criminals in general. Yeah, there is an

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easy button, just like to be nice thum in jail

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and throw away the key or you know, more kinetic options.

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that because anybody who does it immediately becomes incredibly popular,

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like like Deutte was initially. I'm I'm not super familiar

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with Filipino politics, but I imagine like he he became less popular,

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you know, because of economic problems or whatever, but people

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were very happy to watch him go judge dread on

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drug traffickers in this country.

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Speaker 3: They loved it.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean that's the success story of bucele right,

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the fix Everything switch. And it's been interesting to see

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the sort of hysterical reaction to Trump's comments. Admittedly, these

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are comments where he seems to be getting increasingly fed

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up with violent crime in the judiciary. And I think

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that's sort of an interesting question of the Trump presidency, right,

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which is who is in charge? Is it the executive

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or some judge somewhere? And I think that there's a

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lot of political hay to be made there because people,

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myself included and just other normal people are incredibly fed

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up with this routine story of XYZ, thirty five time

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offender out on bail for setting someone on fire, decides

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to kill someone else, you know what I mean. You

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can even look back at you know, country music from

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the seventies right to see the same thing. Right, you

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see this mentioned in like if the South Wold have won,

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as well as other kind of like you know anthems

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right that this is this is a way to motivate

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people now. Obviously look like when criminals are a client

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group of your party, that sort of changes things. But

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it seems to me that that's a that's winning, winning

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messaging there.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's kind of an intractable problem because as

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we've we've discovered the other I guess it.

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Speaker 3: Was a day or two ago at this point.

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Speaker 2: Justice Jackson in arguments about what's what the what the

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Solicitor General about long story short, technocracy in the administrative state.

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She just came out and said, Hey, I think that

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actually the control of the government should be in the

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hands of experts, not in in the presidency or elected official.

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Speaker 3: That we have to have these.

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Speaker 2: This learned tribe of scholars to make all their decisions,

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and like that is what judges effectively are today in

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the United States. And the constitutional remedies for this would

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be impeach the individual judges, which is impossible because you

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need this you need a super majority in the set

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and the Congress to do that. Or you could have

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Congress completely eliminate the circuit of the Circuit Court, which

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I which ironically would probably be easier than impeachment, but

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it's also not gonna happen. So at that point there

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is no legal recourse for the executive, legislative for the

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people at all. I I really, without.

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Speaker 3: Saying fed post these things.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you how you deal with these problems. Obviously,

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the judges do not They do not care. They release

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these people out to rape and murder their fellow citizens,

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and they don't feel a bit sorry about it. What

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can you really do to stop that?

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Speaker 3: You can't. You can't really.

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Speaker 2: Change the laws because it doesn't really matter what someone's

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charged with if the judge bangs the gavel and releases

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them without bail or they get suspend a sentence. If

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you're in a blue state, which by the way, we're

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about to be, we're about to become an even blue,

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restate them and were before. You have absolutely no protection

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from these repeat offenders. And I'm not sure what the well,

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I'm sure what the solution is, but I'm not sure

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realistically what's going to happen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and to that point, I think one

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of the other major institutions that has been been crumbling

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is is trial by Jerry. You're probably telling the swapping screens.

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I have a piece coming out soon, right. I mentioned

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this example. That's why I'm pulling it up. Are you

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familiar with the case of of one Gary O. Edwards

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from Portland?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I've heard the name? Which which which one was?

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Speaker 4: He?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 4: So? So Gary is a homeless schizophrenic and uh he

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stabbed another man incidentally, who also seems to be an

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unhoused person. Uh. And unfortunately the man that he stabbed, uh,

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Gregory A. Howard Junior, Uh set a gamer word while

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being stabbed. You know, Okay, Uh, maybe a poor choice

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of words, but you know, understandable perfs given the circumstances

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of being stabbed by a schizophrenic. And uh So this

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goes to trial and the jury equits the guy who

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stabbed him because of the word he used, which like, look, man,

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you know, I believe you should generally attempt to be polite,

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but I feel like getting stabbed, you might there might

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be some mitigating circumstances there, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can.

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Speaker 2: You can either stab someone or you can request an

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apology for them.

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Speaker 3: Saying a slur. You don't get to do both. You

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got to pick one or the other.

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Speaker 4: Flur was after the fact, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: I mean obviously the temporal distortion of racism that he

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detected it in the air, the racist miasma, and.

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Speaker 3: That's how I knew that he needed to need a.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, the thing is, it's this in Portland. The

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trial happened in Portland. I assume right it did. Yes,

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It's not like the trial happened in Detroit, where you

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can say, well, they got a jury of people who

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like they are all in the same ethnic group. I

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mean probably not in Portland. That jury was probably extremely Caucasian.

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Speaker 3: So these are people who just are doing it for

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love of the game. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: As someone who's recently been to Portland, I can confirm

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several things. One, the story does not surprise me in

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the least any part of it, you know, the stabbing,

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the result in court. But to your point, it is

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like you were stepping back into a weird like mc

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escher version of Newberry, right where it's like it's the

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same demos, albeit expressed slightly differently. I guess we could say.

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But yeah, I mean that's that's another thing, right, And

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this has been a big, you know, talking point in

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the UK because it's seeming that the government is just

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getting rid of the system of jury trial, right. But

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that was that was a social technology that depended on

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you know, most people being your peers right on the

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same page. And when that collapses, and you know, you

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can look into the data of exactly how that is collapsed,

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and along what lines all of a sudden, you can't

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really count on you know, the Southerners favor jury nullification,

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right to come to your rescue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the you know, the entire legal common law, legal

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principles like the And this goes back to what we

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were talking about with the judges before.

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Speaker 3: It's the idea that.

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Speaker 2: There the law is neutral. Obviously, it never it never is.

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Speaker 3: Human beings are never neutral about anything.

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Speaker 2: But if you have a mostly homogeneous society, then you

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do have a jury of your peers. There there might

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be there might be reasons good or bad where the

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jury already dislikes you before you before you sit down

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and they hear any evidence. But for the most part,

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we expect that a judge will be impartial and a

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jury will be impartial. Obviously judges are not Judges are

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essentially employees of the administrative state at this point.

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Speaker 3: Most of them are.

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Speaker 2: Remember adherence to the progressive religion, and juries are a

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rolla dice. Maybe you'll get the the jury that, oh, shoot,

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the I'm going to bog bee here, the blonde guy

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at the mustache in New York.

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Speaker 4: Penny Daniel Penny. Yeah, maybe you get.

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Speaker 3: The Daniel Penny jury.

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Speaker 2: Or maybe you get the Portland jury where the gamer words.

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Speaker 3: A death sentence. You don't know. It's a complete role

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Speaker 4: So complete and total aside. I'll get back to this point.

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I liked your use of that of that verb bog

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beefed it, uh because every once in a while, Yeah,

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because I'll have both you at Bog on the show

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fairly often because I like talking to you. But it's

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always funny to me when someone who's sort of outside

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of our circle interacts with bog Beef in particular, because

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they'll always leave comments. We'll be like, could you keep

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this guy on track? I'm like, no, I can't. No

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one can't. And that is what you sign up for,

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right It's like, Okay, sure you can give it a shot.

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You know, I'd like to see your you try, though.

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Speaker 2: Like I think the bog Beef and I we are

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we are colleagues and the at Old Boys Podcast, and

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we've been.

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Speaker 3: Friends for over got over twenty years at this point.

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Speaker 2: And it's kind of like you remem bring in the

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Star Wars movie you got you got Han Solo and Chewbacca,

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and Chewbacca talks and Han Solo can understand him and

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he has them to translate it. That's my role when

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we're talking with the fucking with the third party. Like

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the verb bog beef means to you forget the proper

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now name of a person, so you just like mad

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limit like who is that guy with the mustache you

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see choked the guy to death on the subway, and

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then you know, I need to pop in with Daniel Penny.

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Speaker 4: Actually it's somewhat related. And this is the most inside

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baseball thing ever, because there are about two podcasts that

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I listened to religiously and it is a Good Old

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Boys in Timeline Earth for very different reasons. But uh,

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you guys did an episode not too long ago entirely

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concerned with one of the original makers of Mortal Kombat.

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I think I think was the last one. Dude, I'm

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just crying laughing. I had like I had the flu

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or something that week, so I was dead hack it

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off the lung and I'm like crying laughing because for

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those who haven't heard it, this guy is the most

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hilarious Italian stereotype. You know, despite being involved in fighting games,

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which is like a relatively nerdy endeavor, He's just talking

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about harassing other workers, threatening to fight people if they

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beat him in a video game, and all of these

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like nerdy you know, modern day games journalists are just

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a gas at this guy. It's great comedy. But to

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return to your point about Penny, I mean, I think

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another great example of this is Kyle Rittenhouse, to be

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perfectly honest, if he had had anyone other than a

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judge born in the nineteen forties. You know, a guy

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who looks like he could run a hardware store or

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something like that. I mean that kid, I think he

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got married. Congratulations to Kyle Rittenhouse, but he'd be in

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jail for the rest of his life if he hadn't

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basically won that lottery on that judge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there have been a couple of trials that was

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kind of obvious.

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Speaker 3: One way or the other. Hegh was going to go

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that when I thought I felt was on the bubble.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, especially because uh he was was he he

474
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was tried in wiscon Was he tried in Wisconsin or Minnesota?

475
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Speaker 4: I'm the wrong person ask We'll go with Wisconsin.

476
00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't they're both. I mean, they're both part

477
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,079
of mort or anyway.

478
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're when your fates being decided by the

479
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legal system, and.

480
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Speaker 3: Like either one of those cursed forty eight or states,

481
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,799
you're you're already you're already at a huge disadvantage.

482
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 2: He was lucky with the draw, both by the judge

483
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and the jury. Although I mean, I would say, although,

484
00:27:44,039 --> 00:27:46,960
how could you convict somebody when the guy goes on

485
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,759
the stand in admits he was trying to kill him?

486
00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:53,240
But you know, our our attorney general in a month

487
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,920
is going to be a literal communist who says that

488
00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:00,319
he wants to murder murder Republicans and their family members, and.

489
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Speaker 3: He's gonna be in charge of Virginia law enforcement.

490
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Speaker 2: So like pretty much anything is possible when it comes

491
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to when it comes.

492
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Speaker 3: To the Libs.

493
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Speaker 4: Do you remember do you remember the name of the

494
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prosecutor in the Rittin House case? It was it Dinger.

495
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Was that his last name?

496
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Speaker 3: It was something like that. He had like the Star

497
00:28:17,799 --> 00:28:20,440
Wars tie. He was the most Yeah, the.

498
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Speaker 4: Doubt, But I just remember there was this hilarious moment

499
00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:26,920
from the trial and you could tell this guy had

500
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,519
never you know, held a gun in his life, because

501
00:28:29,519 --> 00:28:33,519
he has you know, Kyle's you know, Bushmaster Special with

502
00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:37,079
the Amazon red dot and he's wheeling around the courthouse

503
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,160
pointing it. The entire cherie, you know, everyone in attendance,

504
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,640
which I mean, let's be honest, man, I'm glad he

505
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,000
got off. That guy seems like a scumback, But that

506
00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:49,400
was kind of a funny move. Just just a point

507
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a weapon in the entire court room.

508
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Speaker 2: So just just got punish her on the entire court

509
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,200
room popping a magazine.

510
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Speaker 3: You would you say it went something like this, mister Rittenhouse.

511
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well that's one of those Oh sorry, I'll

512
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,079
let you put it that thought.

513
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Speaker 3: I'm just this is just like minutia about the trial.

514
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,599
Speaker 2: That was his trial, I heard something that I had

515
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,400
never heard before, which was someone successfully using the forward

516
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,359
assist on an AR style rifle. He actually used it

517
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,200
in like a combat situation. I thought they were just

518
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,599
basically for decoration at this point, I think anybody ever

519
00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:27,480
ever used that.

520
00:29:28,519 --> 00:29:32,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there were a number of miraculous things

521
00:29:32,279 --> 00:29:36,720
about that, right obviously, you know you have the quite

522
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,279
literally one in a million use of the forward assist,

523
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,000
a future I have literally never used for its intended purpose.

524
00:29:43,119 --> 00:29:44,920
Right to your point, it just seems to be there

525
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,640
for decoration. Actually, that birth one of the funniest, and

526
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,599
it was one of my mutuals on Twitter. I can't

527
00:29:50,599 --> 00:29:55,960
remember who posted a fake tweet right, posing as a

528
00:29:56,039 --> 00:29:59,119
lefty saying, you know, this is the forward assist on

529
00:29:59,119 --> 00:30:02,599
an AR fifteen. It switches it into fully semi automatic mode.

530
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 3: You know, is a turbo button.

531
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it got picked up by Bloomberg

532
00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:11,160
or something like that, right, the tweet shown in the article,

533
00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:12,680
which is just hilarious.

534
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 2: The other blessed aspect of this that trial is like

535
00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:20,519
you're this, You're at this pro twenty twenty protests full

536
00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:24,400
of lib lib tards, and you like you're shoot into

537
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,119
the crowd randomly, like everybody you hit is a convicted

538
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,480
sex offender or a wife diter, like they're always kind.

539
00:30:30,359 --> 00:30:32,519
Speaker 3: Of violent, psychopathic.

540
00:30:31,759 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 4: Felons, which you know, to go back to de Terte,

541
00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:39,720
there's a conclusion you can draw. I won't spell it

542
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,960
out for you. Some are saying, but yeah, that was

543
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sort of an interesting and interesting trial because I think

544
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,880
it also made it entirely clear, which we all knew,

545
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,680
right to what degree American politics is just pure team sports,

546
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,720
and the specific you know, variables in the case do

547
00:30:57,839 --> 00:31:01,119
not matter in the slightest because you know, all of

548
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,640
the you know, the the lefty two AA for all people, right,

549
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,880
who are all you know, talking about armed minorities are

550
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,160
harder to oppress. It's like, well, the moment that someone

551
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,240
actually you know, goes after some showay say community policing,

552
00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:17,079
of course this man needs to be drawn and quartered. Right,

553
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,839
that was the response, completely indeterminate or completely unrelated to

554
00:31:20,839 --> 00:31:25,480
anything actually in the case. Right, it was pure tribal politics,

555
00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:29,519
you know, in or out. And yeah, I remember very distinctly.

556
00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:34,240
I was in college at the time listening to to Vousch,

557
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,000
which you know I did, knowing it would make me

558
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,960
very angry you go react to this live stream trial,

559
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,920
which let's be also, it was also just a weird

560
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,119
thing to have happened. And I don't know, man, I

561
00:31:46,279 --> 00:31:48,359
realized it wasn't entirely as big as like the whole

562
00:31:48,359 --> 00:31:50,279
OJ thing, but it did very much feel like the

563
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,519
entire nation was watching that trial happen.

564
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Speaker 14: It.

565
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Speaker 2: It's like with the with I'm I'm I'm old enough

566
00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:04,480
to remember the OJ trial and like, yeah, that was

567
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:11,039
one purely like racial tribal everybody who wasn't just completely

568
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,200
like in the bag for identity politics, like knew he

569
00:32:14,279 --> 00:32:19,519
was guilty. With the Rittenhouse trial, it was interesting because

570
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I think they were having this moment where they.

571
00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:25,559
Speaker 3: Were really feeling themselves.

572
00:32:25,599 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 2: They were pretty pretty dominant culturally politically, it was gonna

573
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gonna be the beginning of the thousand year Biden Reich, and.

574
00:32:35,319 --> 00:32:37,279
Speaker 3: I kind of got the sense that there were people.

575
00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:39,319
Speaker 2: Even amongst them, who were like, maybe this is going

576
00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:42,200
a little bit too far, Maybe we should maybe we

577
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,720
should just ease up on this.

578
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 3: You know, we're gonna we're gonna win politically.

579
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: Let the kid go and we'll kind of de escalate.

580
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:54,079
And that might have been, might have been what happened.

581
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,200
But I mean, unfortunately, now we are in the exact

582
00:32:58,319 --> 00:33:02,240
opposite situation. This is like we're like in we're in like.

583
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,319
Speaker 3: Twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen.

584
00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:10,319
Speaker 2: And things, they're they're very angry, they're they're getting they're

585
00:33:10,359 --> 00:33:13,519
getting nutty. I mean, again, I'm not gonna blabor the

586
00:33:13,559 --> 00:33:16,279
point about the man who's in charge of law enforcement

587
00:33:16,319 --> 00:33:20,599
in our state, but he's openly fed posting in public,

588
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,079
and not only did the Libs in Virginia vote for him,

589
00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:29,240
the quote unquote moderates voted for him too, over Jason Murez,

590
00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:34,039
who's just there's no reason to dislike Jason Murez other

591
00:33:34,119 --> 00:33:38,039
than he's a Republican. Things are going to get really

592
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,640
nasty in the near future, and I'm not sure people

593
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,599
are ready for They people think that normanies think they

594
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,960
know where normal people stand about political violence and these

595
00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:54,319
kind of behaviors, but they don't.

596
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 3: And this should have been a wake up call. If

597
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:57,880
nothing else, like.

598
00:33:57,799 --> 00:34:01,799
Speaker 2: The idea that I think in it, five or ten

599
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:07,200
years ago, Jones would have resigned immediately that when that

600
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,960
came out. But it's a new day, and frankly, nobody

601
00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:15,239
really cares about political violence in the end, and that's

602
00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:18,840
the teachable lesson from this election. No one really cares.

603
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Keep that in mind.

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Use my code Jaye Burton. Thanks. Well, are you familiar?

623
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He's kind of faded from relevance with Carl CASSARDA.

624
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:31,599
Speaker 3: No, not familiar with them at all.

625
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,119
Speaker 4: He's now turned himself into kind of a low cow.

626
00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:41,000
But uh, years ago he was on He shared a

627
00:35:41,039 --> 00:35:44,639
YouTube channel with Ian McCollum Forgotten Weapons Fame. Who does

628
00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:49,159
he's kind of you know ten minute like many explorations

629
00:35:49,159 --> 00:35:53,639
of weird guns. Right for instance today you know he

630
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:58,719
did a breakdown of you know Garrant right the of

631
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,840
m one Grand fame, his person his like final project

632
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,960
which was this crazy like pneumatically operated gun, just very professional,

633
00:36:07,159 --> 00:36:07,840
just talks about it.

634
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 2: Well.

635
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 4: Like ten years ago he had the second side project

636
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,920
with this guy Carl where they would do more hands

637
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,159
on testing. Right, This was the era of you know,

638
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,719
durability testing. You dump something in mud, you see hot

639
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:24,639
performs it. Kind of low intensity content. Right, fast forward

640
00:36:24,679 --> 00:36:28,039
to twenty sixteen, this guy Carl goes nuts, absolutely nuts,

641
00:36:28,639 --> 00:36:32,159
starts a fight with arfcom right, one of the biggest

642
00:36:32,159 --> 00:36:35,440
gun forums. It's continuing to this day, Kiwi farms the

643
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:40,039
whole lot. He's a self described Satanist, you know, big

644
00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:43,559
into trans women, absolute lunatic. So any of the reason

645
00:36:43,639 --> 00:36:47,639
I bring this up this is relevant is Wired magazine

646
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:51,079
does an article the hard left Shooters leading a gun

647
00:36:51,079 --> 00:36:55,320
culture Revolution, all about John Brown gun Club, all about

648
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,719
the two a for all right community, which is basically,

649
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,280
you know, autistic men equally interested in you know, modifying

650
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,559
firearms and you know show we say, or rearranging their

651
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:10,280
own bodies in somewhat similar sense. And what's interesting about

652
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,000
that article is not any content. It's not particularly good article,

653
00:37:14,119 --> 00:37:16,719
nothing really happens in it, but the language about it

654
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,480
is kind of scary because the whole thing is presented

655
00:37:19,519 --> 00:37:23,679
as Wow, the fascist Republicans are so scary that these

656
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,719
you know, innocent trans women who are just so beautiful.

657
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,920
The language is almost disgusting right the way talk about

658
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,000
these people. It's it's so over the top, you know,

659
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:34,239
it seems more out of like Sama's or you know,

660
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:39,400
like fucking Bagdad Bill or whatever. But uh point is,

661
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,320
the whole thing is littered with these references to you know,

662
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,960
the upcoming years of lead right, the idea that it

663
00:37:46,039 --> 00:37:50,000
is morally justifiable for you know, trans people, minorities, any

664
00:37:50,039 --> 00:37:52,760
of these sort of client groups to pick up arms

665
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:56,920
against the fascist state, just over and over and over again.

666
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,320
And it's it's interesting because look like Wired is a

667
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,159
pretty lefty but it's not like Vice or something like that,

668
00:38:03,199 --> 00:38:06,360
Like they have a relatively normal readership, you know, kind

669
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,400
of reddity, but you know, this isn't like the most

670
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,519
extreme thing out there. And to see political violence explicitly

671
00:38:12,599 --> 00:38:15,079
talked about in a magazine like that, I know, it

672
00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:17,719
kind of took me back to your point, right, like

673
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,320
how off you know, how off the table do we

674
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,960
assume political violence is. And again, it's not a good thing.

675
00:38:26,039 --> 00:38:28,559
I'm not saying this is great. I'm so excited for

676
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,159
that to happen, Like, far from it. I think this

677
00:38:31,199 --> 00:38:33,719
is gonna get very very nasty. And it seems like

678
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,960
they're sort of spinning themselves up into a like a

679
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,000
fever pitch almost.

680
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 3: I just the first thing that came to bad when

681
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,880
you described that wire arc was like.

682
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,199
Speaker 2: One of those inserts with the photograph with the subtitled

683
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:52,039
like Juniper swapped out she hers lower receiver.

684
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 4: But that's pretty much what it is. Man.

685
00:38:55,599 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 2: The thing is okay, but this is I mean, this

686
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,719
isn't funny because yeah, they are forming militias in the open,

687
00:39:03,199 --> 00:39:07,760
and this is Donald Trump's fault, this is the DOJ's fault.

688
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,880
As soon as Charlie Kirk was killed, every John Brown

689
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,079
GluN club in the United States should have been investigated.

690
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,840
Arrest should have been made. Everybody who was in the

691
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:25,760
discord server with the with the transsectionual Chaser killer his

692
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,119
friend group, everybody should have been arrested. They should have

693
00:39:28,159 --> 00:39:30,880
they should have done what happened after January sixth.

694
00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:34,559
Speaker 3: They didn't do that, which says to me that they

695
00:39:34,599 --> 00:39:38,719
don't know what time it is to use the mean formula.

696
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,159
And when you when.

697
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 2: Your enemies are gunning up and they're saying like, hey,

698
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,880
it's a shame we have to do this, but we

699
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,159
have to get ready to kill our political opponents because

700
00:39:50,599 --> 00:39:55,039
we're just so darned justified in our insane psychotic behavior,

701
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and you're getting backed up by you know, ostensibly wired

702
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,480
magazines about computers and technology, like were like, why are

703
00:40:03,519 --> 00:40:06,320
you why did you make this article in the first place,

704
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,599
But that's like it's obvious. It's like like every other magazine,

705
00:40:10,639 --> 00:40:15,239
every media corporation that's not explicitly right wing, their job

706
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:20,920
is to spread progressive propaganda and spread the religion. So like,

707
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,239
if you don't use this the if they don't use

708
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the state power of the state to deal with this,

709
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which would not even be invalid, that is actually their job.

710
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

711
00:40:32,559 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 2: Maybe they expect us to to, like, uh, have gunfights

712
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,440
in the streets with insane communist transsexuals like that, like that.

713
00:40:40,599 --> 00:40:43,239
Somehow that's gonna that's supposed to be our job. Maybe

714
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:48,239
that's the view of the of this administration. I would

715
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,960
certainly hope not, but they kind of act that way.

716
00:40:51,079 --> 00:40:54,239
It's like Rittenhouse Writtenhouse should have never been in that position.

717
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,039
He should never had to do that. He shouldn't have

718
00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:57,800
had to shoot someone, he shouldn't have had to been

719
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,519
on trial, like the the the National Guard should have

720
00:41:01,559 --> 00:41:06,679
been there and stop those people and some by the ATF,

721
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,719
the FBI. Here's a good opportunity for you to go

722
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:15,840
track down these maniacs who are arming themselves for political purposes.

723
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 3: But they're not doing that.

724
00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:26,039
Speaker 4: Well exactly. And I've been particularly frustrated with and this

725
00:41:27,039 --> 00:41:30,239
is relevant, I promise, with a lot of the language

726
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,920
about affordability right coming out of the administration, you know,

727
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:38,760
the big man repeating twice it's a Democrat hoax, because look,

728
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,599
I get it, the economy is a complicated thing, but

729
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,800
there are a lot of other things which aren't that complicated,

730
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:48,079
like finding a group of people on a discord, or

731
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,039
finding a number of people who are pictured in HD

732
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,320
in an article saying we are politically arming ourselves to

733
00:41:55,519 --> 00:42:00,840
basically shoot your constituents. It's like, well, do you're in charge?

734
00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:01,679
Speaker 14: Right?

735
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,119
Speaker 4: You can allegedly right if we assume that we put

736
00:42:05,159 --> 00:42:07,639
you there for a reason, You have access to levers

737
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:09,960
that we don't hear, you can do things that we don't.

738
00:42:10,559 --> 00:42:17,000
And so look like politics is ultimately transactional, and if

739
00:42:17,039 --> 00:42:20,000
you're not doing anything for me, why do you feel

740
00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:24,119
entitled to my support? Like the whole reason people have

741
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,480
this sort of undying loyalty towards Trump, or is that

742
00:42:29,199 --> 00:42:32,760
he was seen as being on their side much more

743
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,000
so than any other Republican in recent history, and so

744
00:42:36,119 --> 00:42:39,840
he got that crazy loyalty. But if you don't hold

745
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,159
your under the deal up, it's.

746
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Speaker 14: Like, well, why.

747
00:42:42,639 --> 00:42:45,559
Speaker 4: Are you surprised that support is decay? Right, Like this

748
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,880
is a transactional relationship at base.

749
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, at the very.

750
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 2: STARTUS administration, when they were making moves every day and

751
00:42:55,159 --> 00:42:57,599
the Libs are on the back foot, they like, his

752
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,280
popularity was higher than it normally is. I don't think

753
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,079
it was ever really very far above water, but that's

754
00:43:06,159 --> 00:43:10,119
just to be expected in part with partisan politics today.

755
00:43:10,639 --> 00:43:15,480
But they've run on esteem and now they're they're reactive

756
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,880
and they're falling back. They seemed to be falling back

757
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,800
into the typical Republican stance of well, here's what I'm

758
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,880
offering to you, my clients. I'm going to just not

759
00:43:26,119 --> 00:43:28,960
let my enemies do the things to you that they

760
00:43:29,039 --> 00:43:32,719
want to do to you, which you know, okay, protection

761
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,400
is part of the patron client relationship. But you can't

762
00:43:36,519 --> 00:43:39,639
just offer that. You have to offer something positive because

763
00:43:39,679 --> 00:43:41,960
saying like that I'm not as bad as the other guy,

764
00:43:42,559 --> 00:43:47,000
that doesn't get people excited. That doesn't They're not going

765
00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:50,840
to go the extra mile to work for you. They're

766
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,719
not going to even come out and vote for you

767
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:57,039
as you as we saw in in November of this year,

768
00:43:57,159 --> 00:44:03,480
it doesn't work. And I I mean, I'm making it.

769
00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:07,519
I don't know, I'm under complicating it a little bit

770
00:44:07,519 --> 00:44:10,760
because obviously there's a lot of structural problems for the administration.

771
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,639
They don't they don't have a great control over the

772
00:44:15,639 --> 00:44:20,119
permanent bureaucracy, they have obvious troubles with the judicial system.

773
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:25,159
Congress is useless because they're enough traitorous Republicans like people

774
00:44:25,199 --> 00:44:28,880
like McConnell who actually want Trump to fail, that he

775
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:29,599
can't really.

776
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:30,119
Speaker 3: Rely on them.

777
00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 2: But that just means you have to double down on

778
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,960
executive authority, and you know, they do, like like yesterday

779
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,440
they put out a you know, saying that, hey, we

780
00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:43,800
no longer acknowledge that disparate impact is a valid legal

781
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concept and things like that.

782
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Speaker 6: It's not just that his world has been torn apart.

783
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It's not just that he's hungry and alone, and it's

784
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not just that he's only seven years old. Right now,

785
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children like Sammy are being forced to live through unimaginable

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Speaker 2: That that's cool, that's good. You should have done that

800
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,880
months and months ago. But you know you're gonna have

801
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,559
to at some point flex that flex the muscle and

802
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:03,400
just straight up use executive authority in a positive way. Otherwise,

803
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,400
when you know, when twenty twenty eight rolls around, the

804
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,000
Democrats are going to are going to destroy them because

805
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,360
they haven't They won't have done anything for their constituents.

806
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:18,360
And I mean the economies we know inflation is gonna

807
00:46:18,519 --> 00:46:20,840
Inflation is gonna be worse. The economy is probably gonna

808
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,519
be worse. All the problems that are here today are

809
00:46:25,079 --> 00:46:29,239
aside from perhaps immigration. You know, after four years of

810
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,159
deportations and self deportations.

811
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 3: It might be noticeably better.

812
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Speaker 2: But you know, not if they replace all the Guatemalans

813
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,639
they deport with Indians and Pakistanis and Chinese people.

814
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 3: So I don't know, if you have.

815
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,159
Speaker 2: Nothing to show at the end of three years, you're

816
00:46:47,199 --> 00:46:49,760
gonna you're gonna get exactly what you what.

817
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:50,559
Speaker 3: You earned.

818
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:56,599
Speaker 4: Exactly. And you know, you know that Republicans don't understand

819
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:01,760
a trinage because of the way that they constantly attempt

820
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:07,320
to poach certain groups from the Democrats. You hear this

821
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,719
line over and over again. You know, the idea of

822
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:16,639
like a natural conservative or a natural Republican. Reagan infamously equipped, right,

823
00:47:16,679 --> 00:47:21,360
Latinos are Republicans. They just don't know it yet. And yeah, sure,

824
00:47:21,559 --> 00:47:24,039
you know, there have been some demographic changes, and we

825
00:47:24,159 --> 00:47:26,599
understand that, you know, hispanic doesn't meant a whole lot,

826
00:47:26,639 --> 00:47:28,880
and you know, people from certain areas, you know, vote

827
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:34,119
different ways. But also, how long has it been since

828
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,840
Reagan said that what has become of the country since

829
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:43,000
then on demographic level, and how do those places vote.

830
00:47:44,079 --> 00:47:47,840
They have not suddenly discovered that they are natural Republicans.

831
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,519
Far from it, And why is it? On a certain level,

832
00:47:51,679 --> 00:47:54,320
you can see the logic, right, Well, these people are Catholic.

833
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:59,960
Catholic or Catholics are generally seemingly socially conservative, so they

834
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:04,199
should align with the conservative nominally party. Well, there's a

835
00:48:04,199 --> 00:48:05,760
couple things there, which is one, there's a world of

836
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,360
difference between socially conservative for their culture socially conservative for

837
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,679
your culture. And also there's the fact that they get

838
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:17,280
paid directly and indirectly not to vote for you, right.

839
00:48:17,639 --> 00:48:19,920
You mentioned, you know, disparate impact. That's a huge one

840
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:24,280
affirmative action, as we mentioned in this case in you know, Portland,

841
00:48:24,519 --> 00:48:30,079
you get a sort of samurai esque difference from law enforcement, right,

842
00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:36,280
assuming you're in a particular area. And also there's a

843
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,199
huge difference between being socially conservative and being part of

844
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,920
the conservative movement. Those things are not correlated at all.

845
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,360
And so you have you know, black Americans who are

846
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,320
on an issue by issue basis to the right of

847
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,440
basically everyone when it comes to things like homosexuality, a

848
00:48:54,519 --> 00:48:58,239
few other you know, kind of progressive shibbaleth. But as

849
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:03,320
we've seen in this recent election, they didn't vote for

850
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:08,079
the nominal social Conservatives. And I think a big part

851
00:49:08,119 --> 00:49:11,679
of it is that conservatives one feel like they need

852
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,199
some sort of affirmation from those groups, like they're not

853
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,239
legitimate unless they have you know, the Jesse Jackson Seal

854
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:23,159
of approval. But also I think that conservatives are under

855
00:49:23,159 --> 00:49:31,679
the severely mistaken, severely mistaken idea that these groups actually

856
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:36,480
want equality, they want fair treatment. No they don't. They

857
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,639
have a pretty good deal worked out and they get

858
00:49:38,679 --> 00:49:41,800
a whole lot more than that. So, you know, as

859
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,800
our progressive friends are fond of reminding us, when you're

860
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,280
in a position of privilege, equality feels like oppression. I

861
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guess I'll leave you to that.

862
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all excellent points. I'd say the first one

863
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,119
I touch on is, you know, why do the Republicans

864
00:49:59,199 --> 00:49:59,559
do this?

865
00:49:59,679 --> 00:50:03,639
Speaker 3: Well, mainly because the two reasons.

866
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Speaker 2: One, everyone who's alive and not in like a nursing

867
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,480
home today, who like, who's still involved in politics one

868
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,000
way or the other is was born you know, either

869
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,679
after or at the very tail end of like the

870
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,320
Roosevelt administration. So everyone alive involved in politics, even an

871
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:26,639
old man like Donald Trump. They have been raised most

872
00:50:26,639 --> 00:50:30,679
of their life within the progressive religion, and one way

873
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:37,079
or the other, there is like a veneration of a

874
00:50:37,199 --> 00:50:41,679
black Americans that just it doesn't matter if it works

875
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,639
politically for you or not. It's just always there and

876
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:48,519
they really desperately want that approval from you know, like

877
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,960
just take twelve percent of the population and they don't

878
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,800
like you politically. It's very stupid to try to chase that.

879
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:00,360
Because funny enough, you know, Trump did make some tiny

880
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,159
inroads with with black men in the last election because

881
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:09,199
he was doing things for for his his clients, and

882
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,039
some of the brothers were like, hey, I like to

883
00:51:11,039 --> 00:51:11,239
get it.

884
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:12,519
Speaker 3: I like to get in on that.

885
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,519
Speaker 2: Because the Democrats aren't doing a lot. They aren't doing

886
00:51:15,559 --> 00:51:17,960
a lot for me anymore. It's it's, you know, they've

887
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:22,920
shifted towards some new demographic groups that they're chasing after.

888
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,400
But all that aside, you know, it's it's all what

889
00:51:27,559 --> 00:51:31,360
you know. You are always about giving things to your friends,

890
00:51:31,519 --> 00:51:34,079
and you pay for it by taking stuff, taking things

891
00:51:34,119 --> 00:51:37,360
either from the general population or better yet.

892
00:51:37,559 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 3: From your enemies.

893
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: And if you're doing anything other than that, when it

894
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,079
comes to like the nuts and bolts of politics, you

895
00:51:44,159 --> 00:51:48,440
are committing complete malpractice. And that's just what the Republicans

896
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:53,639
have always done. And the other aspect is they not

897
00:51:53,679 --> 00:51:57,599
just the approval of like minority groups, but the approval

898
00:51:57,639 --> 00:52:01,719
of their lib and aggressive colleagues. They want to be

899
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,639
able to go out and have dinner with these people.

900
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,920
They don't want to be they don't want to get

901
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,880
the Trump treatment from the media. Like you have to

902
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,400
be a special kind of person to accept that kind

903
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:16,400
of hatred and and not be strongly affected by it,

904
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:22,239
and most people can't do that. Second, the second thing,

905
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,840
if there were such a thing as natural conservatives, obviously

906
00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:32,639
the you know brothers would have been voting for Republicans

907
00:52:32,639 --> 00:52:34,719
for like thirty years at this fourth, thirty or forty

908
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:35,440
years at this point.

909
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Speaker 3: But there's no such thing. It's easier to see this

910
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:39,079
in Europe.

911
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 2: Because of the I guess, the political situation in the

912
00:52:43,199 --> 00:52:47,000
migrant countries. But like, you know, a Turkish person in

913
00:52:47,079 --> 00:52:51,559
Germany will vote in the Turkish election for the most

914
00:52:51,639 --> 00:52:56,960
hard right fascist political party, but in Germany he supports,

915
00:52:57,079 --> 00:52:57,880
you know, the Greens.

916
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,519
Speaker 3: Anybody who's going to give him stuff.

917
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:04,159
Speaker 2: He is politically a communist in Germany and politically a

918
00:53:04,159 --> 00:53:07,239
fascist back home, and there are I mean, this is

919
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,480
how most people are. If you're getting money from the

920
00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:14,039
United States government, it doesn't really matter what you think

921
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,679
deep in your heart about the tax system or whether

922
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,199
or not gay people should be should should be married.

923
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,039
You care about what they're going to do for you.

924
00:53:23,519 --> 00:53:28,159
And that's universal, I think, I mean, I hope Republicans

925
00:53:28,159 --> 00:53:32,719
are kind of starting to understand that, but the lure

926
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,880
of the lie will always be there.

927
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and I think that to that point, you're right,

928
00:53:40,679 --> 00:53:43,119
Like England is probably the best example to hand, because

929
00:53:43,119 --> 00:53:46,320
I can read their newspapers. Uh. But you have this

930
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:52,079
really bizarre alliance between effectively the far left and actual Islamicists,

931
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,239
people who believe in you know, Sharia law and you know,

932
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,360
killing animals in a bizarre way to eat them. And Uh,

933
00:53:59,079 --> 00:54:01,920
on a surface, that makes no sense, right, Why would

934
00:54:02,159 --> 00:54:06,039
this gay guy you know politically align himself to someone

935
00:54:06,079 --> 00:54:11,039
who wishes to escort him out of a building through

936
00:54:11,079 --> 00:54:14,679
alternative units? To put it that way, It doesn't make

937
00:54:14,679 --> 00:54:18,559
any sense. But to your point, right, these people are

938
00:54:19,079 --> 00:54:22,920
quite conservative, but for their culture, right, so they don't

939
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,039
seem to want, you know, gay stuff in their schools.

940
00:54:26,599 --> 00:54:28,239
But if that happens to you, it is of no

941
00:54:28,679 --> 00:54:32,719
concern to them, especially if they're being paid. Right, they're

942
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,199
getting adult they're getting a paid, they're getting patronage. And

943
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,880
I think perhaps the premier example of this is Rep

944
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ilhan Omar. I'm sure you've seen the clip going around

945
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:46,800
of her talking to Somalians in Somali or she basically says,

946
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,400
I am a representative of your interests. My primary goals

947
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:54,159
are giving you money and ensuring that Ethiopia doesn't take

948
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more territory from Somalia, which is you know, refreshingly honest.

949
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Probably a little bit cynical to do it in her

950
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native language instead of that of the country in which

951
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,360
she lives. Uh, But either way, right, it is she

952
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:12,000
is someone who's basically a blood and soil nationalist. But

953
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not for you, of course, right, for you, it's communism.

954
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,719
For her, it's fascism, you know, for her it is

955
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you know, full on you know, Austrian painter, your blood

956
00:55:20,519 --> 00:55:24,840
and soil stuff. And uh, I think it's James Kirkpatrick, uh,

957
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,480
a friend of mine who said basically everyone is a

958
00:55:28,519 --> 00:55:32,000
blood and soil nationalist for somewhere. I'm butchering the quote,

959
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but we'll go ahead of for.

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Speaker 2: The nation that they care about, which is yeah, and

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that's I I was gonna bring that.

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Speaker 3: He's got he's got a show.

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Speaker 2: Now is he using his h his government name as

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the brothers saying now?

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Speaker 3: Or is he still no?

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Speaker 14: He is?

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Speaker 4: Well, it's funny actually I know him like we're friends and.

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Speaker 4: I've met him and I didn't realize he goes. He's

991
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,719
on his channel as Kevin Didena. That's his name. Oh

992
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:03,480
I knew him as James Kirkpatrick. It turns out he

993
00:57:03,519 --> 00:57:06,360
was Greg Hood And look, I don't pay attention to

994
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,239
dosing just as a rule it doesn't particularly interest me.

995
00:57:09,679 --> 00:57:12,199
But despite knowing the guy, I've been to his house,

996
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,639
I did not realize that bit of information, and so

997
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,360
it was sort of funny to realize that was all

998
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,239
one guy. But uh yeah, point is his His new

999
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,079
show is great. I've been on there, which is a

1000
00:57:24,119 --> 00:57:26,639
reason you should check it out. But uh yeah, I'll

1001
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,079
be sure to link to it because Kevin's doing good work.

1002
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:32,880
He actually also has a Twitter only forty k podcast,

1003
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,960
which is pretty good. Iighly recommend it if you're the

1004
00:57:36,079 --> 00:57:40,159
you know, one of the shall we say, uh, non

1005
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,280
neurotypical members of the audience who might be interested in that.

1006
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 2: Until dog Beef has gotten in the Warhammer with our

1007
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,519
our friend hell Belly Ellogi has gotten him into it.

1008
00:57:50,519 --> 00:57:53,840
It was a you know, the gateway drug. And I

1009
00:57:54,639 --> 00:57:58,360
constantly getting emails from these places that sell the little,

1010
00:57:58,519 --> 00:58:01,679
the little I got the metal or plastic men because

1011
00:58:01,679 --> 00:58:04,480
we have the podcast email account.

1012
00:58:04,519 --> 00:58:06,239
Speaker 3: So I'm just next time.

1013
00:58:06,239 --> 00:58:09,519
Speaker 2: Hey, there's a new Ultramarine set out only five hundred

1014
00:58:09,519 --> 00:58:10,440
and fifty dollars.

1015
00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 3: But yeah, I guess.

1016
00:58:11,559 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 2: If Warhammer is extremely popular on the right for obvious reasons,

1017
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,800
it's probably one of the last bastions of.

1018
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 4: Oh dude, it's it's they're trying to to pause it

1019
00:58:24,599 --> 00:58:28,360
so hard. I've actually been like pretty successfully getting myself

1020
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,440
out of forty k as a deliberate strategy. It's really

1021
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,960
I said about this like two years ago because I

1022
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:38,280
realized that they control you through these properties, like they

1023
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,239
drag you around by the nose to basically fund their

1024
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,559
stuff and their guys. And I sort of realized, I

1025
00:58:43,559 --> 00:58:45,239
was like, you know what, like if I do this,

1026
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,440
if I buy their stuff, they got me, you know,

1027
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,800
in some small way, and they make me care because

1028
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,840
then I get upset when their stuff is in it.

1029
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,280
And if I just you know, emotionally divorce, if I

1030
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,519
take the clearer pill right to crib for jard it

1031
00:58:59,519 --> 00:59:02,960
it's clean. But yeah, man, it's actually funny. I was.

1032
00:59:03,039 --> 00:59:05,719
I was dming back with Bugby about this. I was

1033
00:59:05,719 --> 00:59:08,480
actually a commissioned painter in college, so I used to

1034
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,760
do like people's armies and stuff like that. It was

1035
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,920
a ton of fun. And the core message, especially the

1036
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,880
older stuff of that franchise, is actually really fascinating. It's

1037
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,840
a deeply, deeply reactionary setting where it's basically like the

1038
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:28,039
world is dying, the evil is real, and at a

1039
00:59:28,079 --> 00:59:32,440
moment's notice, if you let degeneracy slide, hell will appear

1040
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,519
wherever you are and kill you to death with like,

1041
00:59:36,159 --> 00:59:39,960
you know, the most horrific things possible. So therefore the

1042
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:44,000
only way to resist it is you know, national socialism

1043
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:49,400
in space, which is a incredibly reactionary message and literally

1044
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,239
like that is the underlying thesis of that. They've ben

1045
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,800
try to get away from it, but it is as

1046
00:59:55,119 --> 00:59:56,840
it's no shock that so many of our guys are

1047
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:57,239
into it.

1048
00:59:58,199 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1049
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,639
Speaker 2: Anything about it, but I I saw the you know,

1050
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,360
the deem like there are different demon armies and the

1051
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:08,000
one is like the weird transsexual pervert army and the

1052
01:00:08,039 --> 01:00:12,400
other yeah literally, the big fat, disgusting diseased army. Is

1053
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,880
like that is such a perfect I get. If you

1054
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,480
were trying to set up you know, sides in a

1055
01:00:19,519 --> 01:00:24,079
way that would explain modernity of people like you, you

1056
01:00:24,119 --> 01:00:28,159
could do a lot worse than those two particular archetypes

1057
01:00:28,199 --> 01:00:29,480
of entrophed.

1058
01:00:29,719 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 4: No, I mean to that point, and not to get

1059
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,000
too much into forty K lore, which I realize is

1060
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:40,119
is uh effectively uh non hormonal birth control, but uh

1061
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:46,000
quite literally, the there is space elves got up to

1062
01:00:46,159 --> 01:00:50,360
so much gay activities that it birthed a new god.

1063
01:00:50,719 --> 01:00:54,039
It was quite literally that they were so degenerate that

1064
01:00:54,119 --> 01:00:59,000
it created like basically like a second Satan who was

1065
01:00:59,119 --> 01:01:04,320
purely devoted sexual degeneracy. So literally, if you are too gay,

1066
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:09,119
you will create like a rape demon effectively your.

1067
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,119
Speaker 2: Goon so hard you rip a hole in the space

1068
01:01:11,199 --> 01:01:12,440
time continuum and crease.

1069
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,519
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly that.

1070
01:01:15,679 --> 01:01:17,519
Speaker 3: Hey, look that's directionally true.

1071
01:01:18,119 --> 01:01:21,639
Speaker 4: Yeah. Basically, it's a world where where gooting is a

1072
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:25,639
national security risk, and they'll just nuke the planet if

1073
01:01:25,679 --> 01:01:28,000
your your goon cave grows too big.

1074
01:01:29,039 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 3: That's the only way to be shooting.

1075
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 4: Which going back to do Territe, there's an argument to

1076
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,239
be made. You know, maybe maybe Charlie Kirk would still

1077
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,840
be around if we were sending predator drones to uh

1078
01:01:40,199 --> 01:01:41,039
the goon caves.

1079
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 2: If yeah, if the twenty per centuries tell us anything,

1080
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,840
it's the idea that like, well what could it hurt

1081
01:01:47,079 --> 01:01:49,719
is the dumbest possible position to hold.

1082
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 3: Because like we just want we've we just watched it over.

1083
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 2: I saw today someone they did a poll that like

1084
01:01:55,199 --> 01:01:58,679
now young young men are for the first time against

1085
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:03,119
sports betting. It's like, well yeah, because you the idea

1086
01:02:03,239 --> 01:02:07,079
abstractly of sports betting seemed okay ten years ago. Now

1087
01:02:07,239 --> 01:02:09,920
your fucking friends are all, you know, going broke on

1088
01:02:10,039 --> 01:02:13,239
parlays and people were fixing NFL.

1089
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,719
Speaker 3: Games and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, we see the problem.

1090
01:02:17,039 --> 01:02:19,159
Speaker 2: What was the problem. What happens if we let them

1091
01:02:19,159 --> 01:02:23,519
get married? Well we saw what we saw, Abe got married.

1092
01:02:24,199 --> 01:02:26,960
They're about to about to create a black hole and

1093
01:02:27,039 --> 01:02:30,320
suck us all into the into the hell razor dimension.

1094
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:35,079
Speaker 4: Well, really, if the slippery slope is not a fallacy.

1095
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:38,159
It is the undefeated heavyweight champion of the twenty first

1096
01:02:38,199 --> 01:02:42,639
cent or the twentieth century, right, it just undefeated alleged fallacy.

1097
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:44,559
But I mean to that point, dude, like, look like,

1098
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,840
I'm sure you remember when they legalized skill games in

1099
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,400
our state. And now it's like anytime I go to

1100
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,679
a gas station, it's like someone's grandma spending her rent

1101
01:02:54,719 --> 01:02:58,039
money to like spin a pirate themed you know, digital

1102
01:02:58,079 --> 01:03:01,679
slot machine. And it's like, look, man, like, I'm not

1103
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,239
a big proponent of banning things, like it's just not

1104
01:03:05,519 --> 01:03:08,519
in my character. It's not really in you know, our

1105
01:03:08,599 --> 01:03:11,880
culture broadly speaking, right, but like I see that, I'm like,

1106
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,440
all right, make that go away. That lady is her.

1107
01:03:15,519 --> 01:03:18,480
She is living a miserable life because we thought it

1108
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,199
would add some fraction to the GDP to let people

1109
01:03:21,239 --> 01:03:25,159
put casinos in gas stations. And it's like, I it's

1110
01:03:25,199 --> 01:03:28,400
to fix everything. Switch right, It's like we're drowning at

1111
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:28,880
a bathtub.

1112
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:29,559
Speaker 3: We can just say no.

1113
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 4: And look like, gambling has always existed. People have always

1114
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,599
made bad decisions, But there's a world of difference between

1115
01:03:35,639 --> 01:03:38,239
like your skiedee uncle, you know, going to a greyhound

1116
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,000
track and like, you know, going to a seven to

1117
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,880
eleven at three in the morning and seeing someone's grandma,

1118
01:03:44,119 --> 01:03:47,280
you know, just swipe for hours on end. I don't know, man, the.

1119
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 2: Separation was necessary, the fact that you had to go,

1120
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,719
you know, you'd have to drive all the way to Charlestown, which.

1121
01:03:52,519 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 3: I did many times. And I'm not really a gambler,

1122
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:57,239
but you know, oh, we're going, and we're gonna.

1123
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,199
Speaker 2: It's gonna be an event because we're at the race

1124
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:00,880
track and there's all this stuff happening.

1125
01:04:01,199 --> 01:04:02,039
Speaker 3: But now it's like.

1126
01:04:02,039 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 2: Every foreigner who owns the seven to eleven has his

1127
01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:07,840
own little gay ass casino in the back corner.

1128
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:11,639
Speaker 3: And like, my most hon Rocky, my most right.

1129
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 2: Wing opinion about anything is like, if I was the

1130
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,880
dictator of the United States, I would burn down every

1131
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,400
headshop and I would destroy all these video poker machines

1132
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:22,280
like stuff like that.

1133
01:04:22,679 --> 01:04:23,639
Speaker 3: I would get rid.

1134
01:04:23,559 --> 01:04:28,079
Speaker 2: Of it day one because it's it's just it's obviously bad.

1135
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,320
Put that stuff back into the back alleys, put it

1136
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:35,039
in the red light district, get it away from from public.

1137
01:04:35,159 --> 01:04:38,239
From the public. It'll everybody will be happier. The people

1138
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:41,719
who like devices. They'll enjoy it more too, because it'll

1139
01:04:41,719 --> 01:04:44,960
be it'll be cooler for them. Nothing's cool about the

1140
01:04:45,039 --> 01:04:48,800
video poker machine. Gambling might be cool, but that is

1141
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,079
not cool. That is the lamest, saddest thing on the planet.

1142
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,719
Speaker 4: Well, look, man like, there's a there's a world of difference. Uh.

1143
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,719
For instance, right, Uh, every year the big horse race

1144
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,960
at James Madison's house out in Orange County, and it's

1145
01:05:04,039 --> 01:05:08,079
a it's fun, right, It's basically like a country club talladega.

1146
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,480
You know, everyone shows up, you wear fantasy clothes, you

1147
01:05:11,519 --> 01:05:14,400
get smashed, and you bet on horses that you know

1148
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:18,599
nothing about. Right, But that's once a year and it's

1149
01:05:18,599 --> 01:05:21,400
an event, right, you go there to do that. It's

1150
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:25,559
sort of a Saturnalia esque affair. It is not everywhere

1151
01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:27,880
all at once. Like literally you pick up your phone,

1152
01:05:28,079 --> 01:05:31,840
you know, you open an app and you can bet

1153
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:35,719
the most degenerate like multi leg parlay as possible or alternately,

1154
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,280
right as regards substances, it's not like you're getting you know,

1155
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:42,679
Jay's you know uber eats to your house. And again,

1156
01:05:42,719 --> 01:05:46,079
man like, I'm not some kind of high handed, you know,

1157
01:05:46,639 --> 01:05:50,079
pearl clutching conservative. You know this shouldn't be allowed, you know,

1158
01:05:50,079 --> 01:05:52,719
the kind of stereotype of the nineteen twenties ten Prince movement,

1159
01:05:53,039 --> 01:05:56,320
like generally just my my characters to be pretty liberal

1160
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,639
on something like that. But to your point, right, it's

1161
01:05:58,639 --> 01:06:01,280
like these head shops appear every where and it just

1162
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,320
it drags everything down. You know, now everywhere is a

1163
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,719
CD back alley. You know, at least if it was

1164
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,559
strained in one place, you could avoid it. But now

1165
01:06:10,559 --> 01:06:13,719
it's like I can't go to a store without its smelling,

1166
01:06:14,079 --> 01:06:17,039
you know, stinking, like we are watching, you know, someone

1167
01:06:17,079 --> 01:06:20,119
gamble their life away and I don't know, man, to

1168
01:06:20,159 --> 01:06:23,159
your point like that is, I think my most reactionary

1169
01:06:23,199 --> 01:06:26,639
moments are right then, particularly as you've mentioned, when it

1170
01:06:26,679 --> 01:06:28,719
is shaw we say, a new arrival running the store,

1171
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:32,079
where you're just like what anyway, I probably shouldn't finish

1172
01:06:32,079 --> 01:06:32,360
that thought.

1173
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,679
Speaker 2: Every square inch of the country has to be a casino.

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It has to be a headshop. Sorry to Opium den.

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It has to be a homeless shelter. Every single square

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patch of dirt has to be just cram full of

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the creatures of scale, Like yes, this is I mean,

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if I don't know, is there a warhammer army of

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just like overpopulated, disgusting goblin creatures, because like that, that's

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the end boss of progressivism, because like they worked, they

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they love, they love scale so dearly that it's just

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like Matt Iglaciers is probably the most perfect example, because

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he would be happy if you had everyone, like every

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person on planet Earth stacked like cord Wood in the

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in the continental United States.

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Speaker 3: Like that that's his dream, his dream world.

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Speaker 2: And I don't I don't know how you deal with

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these people, but I have I have some thoughts about it.

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Speaker 4: Uh look, I did I hear there's a former a

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former leader of the Philippines who's in need of a job,

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assuming he can get work released from prison. I guess.

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But Mark, dude, it was a ton of fun to

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have you on. I have to wrap up. But where

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can people find you? Man?

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Speaker 3: So what?

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Speaker 2: We have a show on Patreon It's Good Old Boys

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with a Z G O d O L B O

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y Z. We also stream on kick on Tuesdays and

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on Friday, so you can catch us in either of

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those places. And when are you coming on the show

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to speak with both of us?

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Speaker 3: Come on again.

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Speaker 4: We had a good time last time, literally anytime you want.

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I'm a professional podcaster, which means that I have quite

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literally nothing better to do. But I realized, you know,

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you guys are doing well on kick, but I think

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you guys are going about it all wrong. You're you're

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doing a show, You're doing it more making it better.

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You need to really lean into the IRL streaming and

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just start harassing people in public or conceivably, as we've

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seen with Raja Jackson, just commit a major felony on

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stream for donations. So I don't know what you guys

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are up to, but maybe if you could just find

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someone and beat them half to death or harass them,

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it might be good for the brand. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Just a prank, bro, just a prank.

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Speaker 4: Put the gun down. That one kid who got shot

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for harassing a pizza delivery guy that was in Nova.

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I think I can't remember where it was. It was

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close to us. But uh, that's one of those just

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like perfect like instant karma, Like you can imagine it

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on you like your grandpa's Facebook feed, you know, the

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like f a FO compilations. I know, it's just a

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perfect moment.

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Speaker 3: I know how I would have voted on that jury.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and a territory esque fashion what I mark It

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was a great avidy man. As far as my stuff,

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Jay Burden Show, Apple, Spotify, YouTube, anywhere you listen to podcasts,

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you throw me a few bucks. Get the episodes early

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and ad free. Check out Good Old Boys. Mark is

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great speaking with you everyone at home. Keep your head up.

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I can't last forever.

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Speaker 14: Good Night.

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Speaker 9: Twelve days of Christmas eurospar had for me, twelve Christmas billings,

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eleven cakes of baking, ten salmon smoking, nine Christmas.

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Speaker 16: Crackers, eight Lovely Jesus, seven sheets of wrappings, six stocking fillers.

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Speaker 18: Five minutes Spin for Christmas, case, three brussels rouse, two

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turkey legs under Christmas Made super Easy.

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Speaker 17: Spar You're super easy Supermarket. Another square story from toblerone

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Christmas Do Time for the gifts you got your boss

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Tina bath bombs shaped like mince pies, but added tobler

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own diamond truffles just in case she unwraps the bath

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bombs silence, then the Toblerone truffles, velvety diamond shaped chocolates

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with a crunchy newgarf filling. Oh, big smiles from Tina.

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Whatever you gift, added diamonds just in case. Toblerone never

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