WEBVTT 1 00:00:13.800 --> 00:00:17.039 Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the Game Informer Show, a 2 00:00:17.079 --> 00:00:20.839 weekly podcast covering the video game industry. Join us every 3 00:00:20.879 --> 00:00:23.719 episode for a discussion on the latest gaming news, reviews, 4 00:00:23.760 --> 00:00:27.399 in exclusive reveals, alongside Game and Former staff and special 5 00:00:27.399 --> 00:00:30.120 guests from around the industry. I'm one of your hosts today, 6 00:00:30.199 --> 00:00:34.719 Alex van Aiken. I am joined by Charles Hart. How 7 00:00:34.719 --> 00:00:35.560 are you doing, Charles? 8 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:39.200 I'm doing great. I was the first guest introduced today. 9 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:41.359 I don't know that's ever happened for except maybe the 10 00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:42.920 one episode I did alone with Kyle. 11 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:45.399 Yeah, how's it feel? You feel good? 12 00:00:46.039 --> 00:00:49.399 I'm like top billing. I'm like the first and like 13 00:00:49.799 --> 00:00:52.000 cast in order of appearance at Tallas fan Akin and 14 00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:53.719 then Charles Hart, like we were in the first scene. 15 00:00:54.359 --> 00:00:56.799 Knowing that it's that important to you, I will make 16 00:00:56.840 --> 00:00:59.399 a note in the future to make sure this is 17 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:00.719 in the last time I'm Charles. 18 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:03.200 It made it made many plenty of sense before, you know, 19 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:04.799 it was never like a regular host. But I'm like 20 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:06.359 a regular host, and I just kid, it's just cool, 21 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:06.879 you know, it's. 22 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:13.840 Just cool whatever growth evolution you know? Hm uh, Kyle Hilliard, 23 00:01:13.959 --> 00:01:14.519 how you doing? 24 00:01:15.159 --> 00:01:17.640 Hey, how's it going? I can't believe I was second. 25 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:19.079 I'm frankly offended. 26 00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:22.840 Honestly, yeah, I would like to hear who's coming in third. 27 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:24.439 Which I believe. 28 00:01:24.599 --> 00:01:26.079 Not to spoil it, but I think this is my 29 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:29.560 first time podcasting with full time staffer. 30 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:36.239 Eric Van Allen. Yeah, yeah, I remember my name at all. Geez, 31 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:41.000 I thought we were just going in off. Yeah, is 32 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:46.239 that not what we were doing? No, but happy accident. 33 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:52.079 All right, Well, welcome to the podcast, dear listeners. 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Kyle on videos showing off the 44 00:02:29.280 --> 00:02:36.039 most recent Bloodlines Too issue and the included free D 45 00:02:36.120 --> 00:02:37.400 and D double sided poster. 46 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:39.120 If you're watching the video version, I think Charles and 47 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:40.919 I were trying to do the two sides, but we 48 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:42.080 actually did the same. 49 00:02:43.520 --> 00:02:44.000 Accurate. 50 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:49.319 Yes, well, that is a great way to support us. Also, 51 00:02:49.479 --> 00:02:53.120 if you are watching on YouTube, be sure to click 52 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:55.639 that like button and subscribe if you're new around here. 53 00:02:55.680 --> 00:02:59.240 That helps us out. But without further ado, guys, we've 54 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:01.879 got a pretty pad show this week. We're gonna be 55 00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:06.400 talking about our metal Gear Solid Delta review here momentarily 56 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:10.319 are sort of the CEA review and drag x drive reviews. 57 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:12.919 Later in the episode, we're also gonna be talking about 58 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:16.400 the Battlefield six Open beta that Eric and I played, 59 00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:19.159 had a lot of fun with that. This seat Taken 60 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:22.039 is gonna be covered by Charles, which is a really 61 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:25.800 cool puzzle game that came out recently, and then some 62 00:03:25.879 --> 00:03:29.479 game games Calm Quick Hits from Opening the Night Live 63 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:33.199 and that'll be a show. But needless to say, it's 64 00:03:33.240 --> 00:03:35.800 gonna be a pack show. So let's get started. Kyle 65 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:40.240 tell us all about metal Gear Solid Delta Snake Eater. 66 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:41.080 That. 67 00:03:41.240 --> 00:03:42.960 Did I get the title order right? Okay? Great? 68 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:44.560 Yeah, because I always want to throw a three in 69 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:45.159 there or something. 70 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:48.479 Yeah, they don't include the three officially. 71 00:03:48.120 --> 00:03:51.400 Which I think is like Delta does the idea is 72 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:54.199 they just want new people to come into metal gear 73 00:03:54.360 --> 00:03:56.039 for the first time, and if they don't want them 74 00:03:56.039 --> 00:03:58.039 to scare them away with the three, I think, which 75 00:03:58.479 --> 00:04:00.960 makes sense. It is the first in the the timeline 76 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:03.479 it is. It is like, it is the one that 77 00:04:03.520 --> 00:04:05.439 I would always recommend to people. They're like, I'm kind 78 00:04:05.439 --> 00:04:07.439 of curious about metal gear. I'm like, just start with three. 79 00:04:07.680 --> 00:04:09.919 Just like, play that one first because it's one of 80 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:14.360 the better ones. And like you'll it's the most digestible story, 81 00:04:14.719 --> 00:04:19.040 you know, because you understand it in one entry. But yeah, 82 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:22.439 I are you guys, I forget. Have you all played 83 00:04:22.519 --> 00:04:23.439 three or no? 84 00:04:23.560 --> 00:04:25.759 I have not. I've been waiting for this to come out. 85 00:04:25.959 --> 00:04:28.879 Okay, I played I played one and two last year 86 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:33.639 and I actually started three, and I had the thought, 87 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:35.959 I was like, I'm kind of sick of playing all 88 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:38.160 these metal just played one and two back to back, 89 00:04:38.160 --> 00:04:39.480 and I was like, I'm gonna do something else, and 90 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:41.680 this was an excuse to wait. But I've been I've 91 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:43.399 been looking forward to it because I want to see 92 00:04:43.399 --> 00:04:43.839 what happened. 93 00:04:43.839 --> 00:04:47.360 I watched I college roommate play one through four like that. 94 00:04:47.360 --> 00:04:49.720 That was how I experienced all of mental gear. Solid, 95 00:04:49.759 --> 00:04:51.160 and then the first one I played is you can 96 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:53.519 see from the arm back here on my shelf is 97 00:04:53.879 --> 00:04:58.240 Metal Gear Solid five, which I absolutely adored. But I 98 00:04:58.240 --> 00:04:59.800 am really excited to hear if this is like a 99 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:02.319 good version of three to jump in with, if this 100 00:05:02.439 --> 00:05:04.920 is like the good way to experience it for the 101 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:07.560 first time, or if you feel like it's maybe meant 102 00:05:07.600 --> 00:05:11.199 more for kind of the people who've already played the game. 103 00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:15.639 No, I I think I'm curious what the public the 104 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:18.879 broad public perception is right, which I haven't heard at 105 00:05:18.879 --> 00:05:21.279 the time of this recording. I think even the review 106 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:22.759 will have gone live, and then the game comes out 107 00:05:22.800 --> 00:05:24.560 next week if you're listening to this startment the podcast 108 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:26.680 comes out. I think it is the best version of 109 00:05:26.680 --> 00:05:30.000 Melgar sold three like pretty much like without a doubt, 110 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:34.319 because it looks amazing. The updates that they made are 111 00:05:34.920 --> 00:05:38.360 like small but significant, like the game plays more like 112 00:05:38.360 --> 00:05:41.399 a third person shooter now, which feels good. And then 113 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:44.839 there are things like changing camo, which is like small 114 00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:47.360 but like I was even when it came out in 115 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:49.639 two thousand and four, I kind of ended up not 116 00:05:49.839 --> 00:05:52.519 changing Camo much because to do it you have to 117 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:55.160 go into a like two menus and change it and 118 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:57.600 then like leave. But now it's all like quick select 119 00:05:57.600 --> 00:05:59.560 and it'll it'll be like this is like the best 120 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:02.040 one for this area, which is really really nice. 121 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:04.759 And then oh please, yeah, go ahead. 122 00:06:04.879 --> 00:06:06.720 Oh no, no, I'm not. I was gonna interrupt you 123 00:06:06.720 --> 00:06:10.319 with a very important question as to whether or not 124 00:06:10.360 --> 00:06:13.399 the Game Informer issue is still inside the game. It is. 125 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:16.399 It absolutely is. Yeah, it's uh. 126 00:06:16.279 --> 00:06:18.240 And remind me, was that a fake game and Former 127 00:06:18.519 --> 00:06:19.240 game and Former cover? 128 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:22.519 They yeah, it's made. It's not a real game and 129 00:06:22.560 --> 00:06:25.000 Former cover. It's like a fake Metal Gear Solid three 130 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:27.360 game and Former cover, and like you can shoot it 131 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:29.920 and hit it and it'll flip over, it'll flip open, 132 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:32.600 and it looks like a two thousand and four layout 133 00:06:32.600 --> 00:06:33.800 of Game Informer, which. 134 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:35.199 Is very strange crazy. 135 00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:37.160 And then on the back of the issue, because it's 136 00:06:37.199 --> 00:06:39.600 like random whether how it flips. On the back of 137 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:43.199 the issue, there's like a weird picture of Former Game 138 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:45.319 in Former editor Matt Cotto that I worked with for 139 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:50.120 many years, like eating bugs or something. It's really odd. 140 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:54.040 It's it's weird, and I actually, like recently, like after 141 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:57.759 seeing it was in the game, I went to talk 142 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:00.000 with some of the old like Game Informer old timers 143 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:01.519 about it, and I was like, do you guys remember 144 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:03.920 like how this came to exist or like what happened? 145 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:07.600 And Andy McNamara was like, I don't remember, just like 146 00:07:07.800 --> 00:07:10.600 I just like, do not remember. I think maybe there 147 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:12.399 was an email or something that said they were doing 148 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:14.639 it and then and Matt Cotto similarly was like, yeah, 149 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:16.160 I don't, I don't, I don't have no I think 150 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:20.240 I remember taking a picture or something. That's the extent 151 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:23.399 of my reporting for how that game to exist. It's 152 00:07:23.519 --> 00:07:25.639 just this weird thing that if you're not if you 153 00:07:25.639 --> 00:07:28.360 don't know what we're talking about. In Metal Your Solid three, 154 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:31.560 there are like a number of publications at the time 155 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:34.360 are in the game, like they're just like on a 156 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:36.199 desk or something like that. And one of them is 157 00:07:36.240 --> 00:07:37.439 Game Informer, which was like. 158 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:41.160 Yeah, just like a guard reading gaming magazines in the 159 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:41.839 spare time. 160 00:07:42.160 --> 00:07:45.240 Yeah, which is like that weird fourth wall stuff that 161 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:47.480 Kojimac games tend to do. But it's actually it's a 162 00:07:47.560 --> 00:07:51.319 nice transition Alex to ask about that, because you know, 163 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:52.560 I was, I was telling you guys some of the 164 00:07:52.600 --> 00:07:57.160 things they updated and change, but like the for lack 165 00:07:57.199 --> 00:07:59.720 of a better term, like the soul of the game, 166 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:01.600 which like the main thing I was worried about because 167 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:04.360 Hideo Kojima is not involved, and they even asked someone 168 00:08:04.399 --> 00:08:06.079 asked him about it recently if he would ever play, 169 00:08:06.120 --> 00:08:07.759 and he said, no, I don't want to play that game, 170 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:09.759 Like it seems like he's upset by it, maybe even 171 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:12.120 a little bit. But without his involvement. I was like, 172 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:15.199 is it gonna have the soul of Metal Gear? Is 173 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:18.480 it gonna feel like Metal Gear? And like the thing 174 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:21.399 is is like they upgraded those few things, but everything 175 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:25.199 else is like direct copy paste improved to the point 176 00:08:25.240 --> 00:08:27.480 where like the soul of the game just kind of 177 00:08:27.519 --> 00:08:31.240 came along with it in that process, because like none 178 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:33.960 of the story has changed at all. It's all the 179 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:38.600 original voice acting, all the cinematograph for excuse me, cinematography 180 00:08:38.679 --> 00:08:40.960 for all the cut scenes are exactly the same, Like 181 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:45.759 nothing has been changed in that regard. This is the 182 00:08:45.799 --> 00:08:49.360 exact same version of Metal Gear Solid three, with the 183 00:08:49.399 --> 00:08:51.559 exception of it looks a lot better. Right, So, like 184 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:54.559 you get these cut scenes that like function exactly the 185 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:56.039 same as they did in two thousand and four, but 186 00:08:56.159 --> 00:08:58.200 like the lighting's a lot better, so they just sort 187 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:02.000 of automatically look better and things like that, and like 188 00:09:02.360 --> 00:09:05.559 I ultimately was like really impressed, Like that's what I 189 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:08.519 wanted here. As someone who loves metal Gear Solid three 190 00:09:08.600 --> 00:09:11.039 and has played it, I've probably played that game once 191 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:13.120 through every like you know, five or six years. I've 192 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:15.519 played through it something like that through its various versions. 193 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:19.320 So to have just like basically a one to one 194 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:22.000 version of metal Gear Solid three that looks better with 195 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:25.320 you know, the improvements that you want where it controls better, 196 00:09:25.399 --> 00:09:28.039 and then that one that little hiccup with the camo. 197 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:30.840 Oh also like your your codec is easier to quick 198 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:32.519 select to like stuff like that. 199 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:32.919 You know. 200 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:36.480 I mean to me, like I when I get that 201 00:09:36.519 --> 00:09:39.639 hankering to play metal Gear Solid three again, I don't 202 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:41.120 think I'm going to be able to go back. I 203 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:44.639 think this is the new primary version of metal Gear 204 00:09:44.679 --> 00:09:48.600 Solid three, And I am curious, like I said, what 205 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:51.200 public perception will be if like there are purists out 206 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:53.320 there who really find things about it they don't like. 207 00:09:53.759 --> 00:09:56.399 But from from my perspective having played through it, you know, 208 00:09:56.440 --> 00:09:58.600 and then also started new game plus a little bit, 209 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:00.679 and then like did all the snake versus monkey stuff 210 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:03.759 in there, Like, it feels good. It feels like Metal 211 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:05.879 Gear Saw three. I was very I was really happy 212 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:07.240 with it. I gave it a nine out of ten. 213 00:10:07.399 --> 00:10:10.080 And it is like, again, if you're that person who's like, 214 00:10:10.120 --> 00:10:12.840 I'm kind of curious about metal Gear, maybe you played 215 00:10:12.840 --> 00:10:14.679 five and you're curious, like what the history of the 216 00:10:14.679 --> 00:10:17.960 series was, Like, this is the one I will recommend 217 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:20.440 moving forward. It's like, play metal Gear Solid Delta. This 218 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:22.480 is like the best version of metal Gear Solid three 219 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:25.960 that will get you into that story very easily. And 220 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:28.080 in terms of like five, you can see a lot 221 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:30.080 of the seeds that got planted and grew into the 222 00:10:30.159 --> 00:10:33.200 mechanics of five, which is really fun too. So yeah, 223 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:36.399 good game. I really like metal Gear Solid Delta a lot. 224 00:10:36.559 --> 00:10:37.600 I think they did a great job. 225 00:10:38.559 --> 00:10:40.360 Yeah. Is there anything that you felt like they dropped 226 00:10:40.399 --> 00:10:43.879 the ball on or things that didn't maybe age as 227 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:46.720 well despite you know, kind of the remake. 228 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:51.279 Yeah, process, I mean, I like, I don't drop the ball. 229 00:10:51.320 --> 00:10:54.200 I don't think so, but there are definitely elements in 230 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:57.080 the game that like don't age well. Like the writing. 231 00:10:57.320 --> 00:10:59.399 A lot of the writing feels like sort of cliched 232 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:02.840 often and like there's like there's just stuff that like 233 00:11:02.960 --> 00:11:05.399 kind of doesn't really make sense that you just kind 234 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:07.879 of have to wave off, you know, which maybe I 235 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:09.799 was like more forgiving of back in two thousand and 236 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:13.360 four when I was just a stupid high school senior 237 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:16.159 due didn't know any better. So that stuff kind of 238 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:19.399 feels like almost like laughable now. Like that's that's my 239 00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:21.879 takeaway for a lot of that stuff is like just 240 00:11:21.960 --> 00:11:26.639 these like really self absorbed monologues, like from from people 241 00:11:26.679 --> 00:11:29.320 like explaining exactly why they're doing what they're doing. And 242 00:11:29.399 --> 00:11:32.159 like Snake gets imprisoned at some point and they like 243 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:34.879 don't take his radio, so he has like full communication 244 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:37.559 abilities with his full team, and it's like that doesn't 245 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:41.000 really make any sense. But whatever, from a gameplay perspective, 246 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:43.000 I guess I would rather be able to call you know, 247 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:45.919 Commander zero or whatever, like I don't I don't want 248 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:48.080 that taken away from me. But it's just it's just 249 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:50.679 the kind of thing that it's like, ah, whatever, It's 250 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:53.000 like it doesn't make sense, but it doesn't really hold 251 00:11:53.120 --> 00:11:56.200 back the story. And also like I don't think I 252 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:58.840 would want them to like rewrite the game, because that's 253 00:11:59.399 --> 00:12:01.240 that's so crude to it, even if it even if 254 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:03.480 it like makes me laugh in twenty twenty five and 255 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:06.159 like it's kind of feels outdated, like I would rather 256 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:10.080 have it be that for for what is, you know, 257 00:12:10.200 --> 00:12:13.120 a remake of Mental Year Solid three. So so I'm sure, 258 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:15.879 I'm I'm happy with it, but but yeah, there's definitely 259 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:17.799 stuff in there that is that is kind of laughable 260 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:18.240 for sure. 261 00:12:19.759 --> 00:12:24.159 Well, moving on, unless you all have any questions for Kyle. 262 00:12:25.000 --> 00:12:27.519 Well, I just want to say I'm excited. I'm very 263 00:12:27.519 --> 00:12:32.720 glad that that is the case, because I also felt, uh, I. 264 00:12:32.679 --> 00:12:33.879 Don't know, I don't. 265 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:38.840 I feel like every everything, I didn't really know what 266 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:42.120 Konami was until I like they were already not really 267 00:12:42.159 --> 00:12:45.200 doing stuff anymore, so like the concept of them making 268 00:12:45.320 --> 00:12:48.320 the remake and Kajuma wasn't involved. Just I was like, 269 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:50.159 I don't, I don't really know what to expect. But 270 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:53.519 it doesn't seem I don't know, it didn't. It didn't 271 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:56.360 give me any green flags. Really, it's just knowing that 272 00:12:56.440 --> 00:12:58.639 it was like they're being faithful to it and it 273 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:02.360 still looks good. And I know sometimes when they do 274 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:04.279 I can't think of the game off the top of 275 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:06.799 my head. But sometimes when they do remakes and they 276 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:09.720 make stuff like photorealistic or they like improve the lighting 277 00:13:09.759 --> 00:13:12.200 a bunch, they kind of like sand off some of 278 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:13.919 the art direction that was gone on. 279 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:15.399 Like you'll see a game. 280 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:18.159 That has like a lot of like green tones and 281 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:20.080 kind of like a filter over it where it's like, 282 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:22.240 we can't make it look like real people, but we 283 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:24.399 can give it like a vibe, and then you'll have 284 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:26.559 the remaster version it's like, oh, we made these colors 285 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:28.240 look how they actually look, and it's like, ah, okay, 286 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:30.639 now it just kind of looks like some dudes standing 287 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:33.360 in a room with no nothing going on. Sure, And 288 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:35.080 I don't know if that's like a thing you've you've 289 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:37.200 felt here, but you mentioned that it looked good, like 290 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:40.279 I think it is a different I'm curious if that 291 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:42.480 is a thing you feel is true about. 292 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:42.679 This at all. 293 00:13:42.759 --> 00:13:44.799 I mean, there might be something there to that, because 294 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:47.480 in my memory, like thinking back to the PlayStation two version, 295 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:49.279 it does sort of just have like a green like 296 00:13:49.399 --> 00:13:53.279 sheene to it, you know, which I think is gone here. 297 00:13:53.879 --> 00:13:56.080 But like metal Gear is always sort of striving for 298 00:13:56.759 --> 00:14:01.960 really realistic visuals with like you know, mechanical creatures that 299 00:14:02.039 --> 00:14:04.519 you believe, right, Like they want you to think that 300 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:07.759 these things could actually exist in the real world. It 301 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:11.120 is Metal Gear is an anime, but it's not meant 302 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:13.000 to look like an anime, right, It's just like a 303 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:16.200 spire by the storytelling style of anime. But it's always 304 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:19.480 it's always, I mean, even moving into stuff like death stranding. 305 00:14:19.639 --> 00:14:22.120 You know, everything in that game is meant to look 306 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:25.080 like something you could hold, even if it is odd, right, 307 00:14:25.120 --> 00:14:26.200 I don't know, maybe that that's. 308 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:29.039 Kind of yeah, no, I think that makes sense. 309 00:14:29.320 --> 00:14:33.759 Yeah, yeah, And comparing it to anime was also the 310 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:34.559 thing that made me. 311 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:37.559 It was a shift in my head. 312 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:39.480 I needed to get through the first game for that 313 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:41.120 first time where I was like, wow, this is just 314 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:43.559 crazy people talking, and then I was like, oh, it's 315 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:44.919 like an anime, and for some reason that was all 316 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:47.120 I needed to be like, Okay, yeah, this is exactly 317 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:48.240 what to expect from anime. 318 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:51.840 They re released a Ninja Scroll on Blu Ray recently, 319 00:14:51.879 --> 00:14:55.440 which is a fantastic like nineties anime, and I remember 320 00:14:55.480 --> 00:14:57.240 I watched it again for the first time in I 321 00:14:57.240 --> 00:14:59.240 don't know, it's like twenty years or something like that 322 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:01.720 great movie Ninja scroll, and I was like, oh, this 323 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:04.559 is this is a whole, this is just fully metal gear. 324 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:07.720 This is just like one dude versus a bunch of bosses, 325 00:15:08.200 --> 00:15:11.240 one of which is a guy who controls bees, you know, 326 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:13.960 like in Ninja Scroll, and he's just like he's got 327 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:15.840 to figure out how to defeat him all one by one, 328 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:18.480 and there's also a conspiracy going on in the background, 329 00:15:18.519 --> 00:15:20.600 and it's like, oh, yeah, this is this is just 330 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:23.600 metal your Solid three but like Feudal Japan basically, and 331 00:15:23.639 --> 00:15:24.759 it's great for that reason. 332 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:31.519 RULES love that. Well. We have both been playing Sword 333 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:33.600 of the Sea, Kyle and I have both beat the 334 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:36.960 game now Kyle twice for me, yeah, you've beat it 335 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:39.320 twice now, okay. And I knew that you had started 336 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:43.120 New Game Plus as part of your review process. But 337 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:45.919 so far, I mean, well not so far. I beat it, 338 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:47.840 I liked it a lot. 339 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:50.840 It's I think I'm near the end just because of 340 00:15:51.159 --> 00:15:56.679 comparison point, I uh gotta well, I don't. I don't 341 00:15:56.679 --> 00:15:58.200 want to give it away as like a spoiler and 342 00:15:58.279 --> 00:15:59.840 the thing, but I can message you guys. 343 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:01.679 I think I'm like near that. I think I'm like 344 00:16:01.879 --> 00:16:02.519 an hour away. 345 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:05.679 Charles, are you telling me or Alex anything about where 346 00:16:05.720 --> 00:16:07.639 you are in the game. I bet you're close to 347 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:09.159 the end, because it's not a very lock. 348 00:16:09.799 --> 00:16:12.120 Yeah, I didn't think I beat it in an hour 349 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:13.279 and fifty nine minutes. 350 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:14.159 Who really? 351 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:16.320 And then I got an achievement for beating it under 352 00:16:16.360 --> 00:16:18.759 two hours, and I was like, I didn't think I was. 353 00:16:19.000 --> 00:16:20.799 You know, I guess something as good a games. Yeah, 354 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:24.039 it was like gamer over here. That's why they employed 355 00:16:24.120 --> 00:16:24.639 me here. 356 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:27.679 Which, by the way, I don't know how you feel, Alex, 357 00:16:27.720 --> 00:16:29.320 but not a complaint. 358 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:32.039 For no, No, Like I think it's felt longer than 359 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:34.639 two hours on Yeah, Like it's. 360 00:16:34.279 --> 00:16:36.320 So well and it moves so quickly that it like, 361 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:38.919 I think it is a good length. I like it 362 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:39.559 for that reason. 363 00:16:39.720 --> 00:16:41.279 Yeah, I don't think I would have wanted it to 364 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:43.120 be longer, did you Guys? 365 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:44.080 Like unlock? 366 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:46.440 I mean, I'll let you give like the introduction to 367 00:16:46.480 --> 00:16:47.840 the game, sure before. 368 00:16:47.639 --> 00:16:49.039 We get into all the details of it. But I 369 00:16:49.039 --> 00:16:50.039 do have questions for you. 370 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:54.000 Okay, Charles wants to know we unlocked something unlocked, and 371 00:16:54.559 --> 00:16:58.320 we did unlock several things throughout the game, but real quick, 372 00:16:58.440 --> 00:17:01.440 the the sort of the Sea. It's the third game 373 00:17:01.519 --> 00:17:06.359 from Giant Squid, which is a team comprised of members 374 00:17:06.400 --> 00:17:11.160 who worked on Journey back in what twenty twelve, and 375 00:17:12.359 --> 00:17:16.079 this game, Kyle says in his review, it's very much 376 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:20.920 like it. It feels like a a successor to Journey 377 00:17:21.119 --> 00:17:26.200 in its own right, and it has that that sort 378 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:29.839 of art direction from Matt Naba that is pretty iconic 379 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:32.759 at this point, especially in through the lens of like 380 00:17:35.440 --> 00:17:38.319 Journey and and everything that has come with that game, 381 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:43.319 as in the Pathless of the other two. This one 382 00:17:43.920 --> 00:17:49.319 is really beautiful. I think that some of the the 383 00:17:49.680 --> 00:17:52.279 shader work that they do and sort of the see 384 00:17:53.519 --> 00:17:58.400 is just absolutely ridiculous. The I really want to see 385 00:17:58.440 --> 00:18:02.119 a GDC breakdown or maybe we'll reach reach out of them. 386 00:18:02.119 --> 00:18:05.640 I want to see how they they did what they 387 00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:12.799 did with that water to sand to ice ground shader. 388 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:16.319 It's so it blows my mind looking at it as 389 00:18:16.319 --> 00:18:18.559 you're playing. But Kyle, I'll pass it to you to 390 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:21.920 talk more about the game in general, kind of what 391 00:18:21.960 --> 00:18:24.720 you're actually doing in the game all that kind of stuff. 392 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:26.799 Yeah, I mean, we're going to say the word Journey 393 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:30.039 a lot, and because it's like for like, I like 394 00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:32.400 you said that, I said, Alex it to me, it 395 00:18:32.400 --> 00:18:35.440 feels like the most direct line to Journey that that 396 00:18:35.559 --> 00:18:39.599 Giant Squid has made so far between Absu and the Pathless. 397 00:18:39.799 --> 00:18:41.599 And it's like it's a game where you're kind of 398 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:44.279 this silent protagonist. There's not any dialogue in the game. 399 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:46.720 There's there's text, but there's not any dialogue, and you're 400 00:18:46.759 --> 00:18:49.240 kind of making your way through this like ambiguous desert 401 00:18:49.559 --> 00:18:51.720 and as you progress, you kind of fill this desert 402 00:18:51.720 --> 00:18:54.200 with water. And you just do this by like moving 403 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:57.319 around and solving little puzzles and you're like riding your 404 00:18:57.400 --> 00:18:59.640 sword is like this floating object that you're just riding 405 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:02.480 around like super high speeds, and it. 406 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:03.839 Just feels really good. 407 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:06.960 It's just really satisfying to like move across the sand 408 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:09.440 and then you know move along the water and then 409 00:19:09.519 --> 00:19:11.160 like some of the other materials that you're talking about. 410 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:14.240 Alex likes it's a short game, but we don't want 411 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:16.440 to spoil like all the all the environments that you visit, 412 00:19:16.480 --> 00:19:20.079 but like it just feels really good to move and leap. 413 00:19:20.160 --> 00:19:23.720 And then there's also buttons that do tricks and stuff, 414 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:26.880 and you will find occasionally like half pipes and like 415 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:28.599 a mission. There's only a few, but there's you can. 416 00:19:28.599 --> 00:19:32.119 Find certain challenge rooms as well. Yeah, to do high scores, 417 00:19:32.200 --> 00:19:35.279 get high scores. It's like it's not certainly that first 418 00:19:35.279 --> 00:19:37.880 play through, it is not like a high score game. 419 00:19:38.119 --> 00:19:40.559 It's not it's not a Tony Hawk game. But there 420 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:44.079 is definitely Tony Hawk inspiration in the sense that it's 421 00:19:44.079 --> 00:19:46.519 like they want you to like move quickly and do 422 00:19:46.640 --> 00:19:49.000 interesting tricks to kind of entertain yourself while you're moving 423 00:19:49.000 --> 00:19:50.279 through these beautiful landscapes. 424 00:19:50.279 --> 00:19:51.839 And I think it works really well. I think it's 425 00:19:51.880 --> 00:19:54.240 just it's just a game that just doesn't stop from 426 00:19:54.279 --> 00:19:56.759 the moment you start, and it's it's it's it's great. 427 00:19:56.799 --> 00:19:59.680 I give it an eight point five. The reason I 428 00:19:59.720 --> 00:20:02.680 didn't like sort of cross that nine threshold is because, 429 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:06.400 like what story there is there didn't really like move 430 00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:09.920 me necessarily, Where games like Journey and like The Pathless, 431 00:20:09.920 --> 00:20:12.799 I did feel moved during the course of those games, 432 00:20:12.799 --> 00:20:14.680 where this was like I was like, Okay, this is 433 00:20:14.720 --> 00:20:16.680 interesting and this is like I can follow this and 434 00:20:16.720 --> 00:20:18.599 I see what's happening. But like I just and the 435 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:20.400 end is really cool. I really like the end a lot. 436 00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:23.559 It's just really like bombastic and crazy. But I just 437 00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:26.079 wasn't it was. It was more my reaction to thout 438 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:27.440 the whole game was like, oh, that's really that's really 439 00:20:27.480 --> 00:20:30.680 pretty and cool, rather than like tearing up a little bit. 440 00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:30.759 You know. 441 00:20:30.759 --> 00:20:31.920 And I'm prone to that, you know. 442 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:35.440 I Yeah, plenty of silent games have brought me to, 443 00:20:35.720 --> 00:20:37.759 you know, wiping a tear from my eye. This wasn't 444 00:20:37.759 --> 00:20:39.680 one of them. But it's still still really good game. 445 00:20:39.720 --> 00:20:40.440 I like it a lot. 446 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:45.799 Yeah, I found myself in awe of kind of the beauty, yeah, 447 00:20:45.839 --> 00:20:49.000 of the game, But like you said, like the story itself. 448 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:53.079 I mean, it's got themes of like conservation and that 449 00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:57.039 sort of thing in regards to like protecting the environment, 450 00:20:57.680 --> 00:21:00.640 and you know, I think some of that is pointing. Yeah, 451 00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:03.839 I think some of that's poignant, but yeah, nothing really 452 00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:08.640 that like kind of struck a hardcored and and I 453 00:21:08.680 --> 00:21:10.920 think like some of the more like tragic moments in 454 00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:15.079 the story, you don't quite have enough time with the 455 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:22.279 characters to kind of really feel any any any hits 456 00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:26.720 necessarily when things happen to them. I agree, Yeah, but 457 00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:31.279 I think all that aside, I really really like the game. 458 00:21:31.880 --> 00:21:37.240 It's really impressive, especially from a technical standpoint. I think 459 00:21:37.319 --> 00:21:41.119 also the level design is you know, you get to 460 00:21:41.160 --> 00:21:45.759 these places that kind of open up and are really 461 00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:49.759 fun to navigate and explore. You know, you can as 462 00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:52.119 you go you level up new movement options, and one 463 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:53.920 of the things that you pick up pretty early on 464 00:21:54.480 --> 00:21:57.599 is the ability to kind of like climb up kelp forests. 465 00:21:57.680 --> 00:22:01.519 You kind of float up with them, and and you 466 00:22:01.559 --> 00:22:03.559 know there are secrets in the game. If you explore, 467 00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:07.079 you can find these these shells. And I'm not sure 468 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:09.359 what they're for, Kyle, I haven't figured that part out. 469 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:12.160 I haven't either. I have found a lot of them. 470 00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:13.359 I don't know exactly how many. 471 00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:16.000 I assume it's just like, I don't know if that's 472 00:22:16.039 --> 00:22:18.039 one hundred percent of it. You find all the shells. 473 00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:21.279 Yeah, I don't know if you get something you know, yeah, 474 00:22:21.359 --> 00:22:25.200 or if it's just I don't know, but I've got 475 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:28.240 several of those from kind of going off the beaten path, 476 00:22:28.440 --> 00:22:31.200 and it is fun to get a little little reward 477 00:22:31.319 --> 00:22:33.680 when you do that, as well as kind of seeing 478 00:22:33.720 --> 00:22:37.160 more of like that environmental set dressing that is so 479 00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:40.799 pretty to look at. But yeah, I think Kyle said 480 00:22:40.799 --> 00:22:43.640 a best in his review. You know, the the star 481 00:22:43.720 --> 00:22:46.559 of the show is the movement and riding your blade 482 00:22:47.160 --> 00:22:50.640 across the landscape. It's got this like there are certain 483 00:22:50.680 --> 00:22:53.599 times when your your camera just like gets really low 484 00:22:53.640 --> 00:22:57.039 against the ground and it's kind of like looking up 485 00:22:57.240 --> 00:23:01.880 at your character like gliding along the like water, and 486 00:23:01.920 --> 00:23:06.039 it looks so cinematic. It looks ridiculous. It looks like 487 00:23:06.039 --> 00:23:09.279 something out of a movie. And like, especially with the 488 00:23:09.400 --> 00:23:13.640 vertical nature of how the map progresses. As you go, 489 00:23:13.680 --> 00:23:17.240 you're kind of click climbing this mountain and or a 490 00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:20.200 series of mountain peaks, and you know, when the camera's 491 00:23:20.279 --> 00:23:22.240 low like that, looking up the character surfing and in 492 00:23:22.319 --> 00:23:25.960 the background, you've got these beautiful vistas. I really enjoy it. 493 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:27.559 I think I think there are a couple of moments 494 00:23:27.559 --> 00:23:34.839 throughout where some of the more novel mechanics kind of 495 00:23:37.440 --> 00:23:39.759 wear a little thin for me. Luckily, the game is 496 00:23:39.759 --> 00:23:42.519 so short that I think if it had been a 497 00:23:42.599 --> 00:23:45.279 longer game, that some of those I don't want to 498 00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:47.279 spoil it because it's it's kind of a cool moment, 499 00:23:47.359 --> 00:23:51.519 but yeah, there are moments where like there'll be some 500 00:23:51.640 --> 00:23:55.200 kind of novel mechanic that you have to use to progress, 501 00:23:55.480 --> 00:23:59.839 and had that those those experiences been longer. I think 502 00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:02.680 I would have been like, ah, but with them being 503 00:24:02.759 --> 00:24:05.160 so short, it's like kind of like a nice little. 504 00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:07.119 It's almost. 505 00:24:08.480 --> 00:24:11.599 Very little repeats. You know, it's not completely without repeating, 506 00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:13.480 but there's like it's it's few and far between. 507 00:24:13.640 --> 00:24:14.000 Yeah. 508 00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:15.720 Yeah, that is a thing that. 509 00:24:17.160 --> 00:24:20.119 I played the game at SGF and then I turned 510 00:24:20.160 --> 00:24:21.960 around and there was a guy like standing at the 511 00:24:21.960 --> 00:24:24.519 booth and sometimes it's like the PR people, and he 512 00:24:24.599 --> 00:24:25.799 was like, hey, you like the game and I was 513 00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:28.079 like yeah, and he was like, oh great, thanks. 514 00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:29.279 We worked really hard on it. And I was like, 515 00:24:29.319 --> 00:24:30.599 wait a minute, you're Matt Nava. 516 00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:32.480 So then I just kind of had like an impromptu 517 00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:34.359 interview with it. I know he was there, And I 518 00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:37.440 also interviewed Austin Wintery like a week or two before 519 00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:39.720 that for the magazine, so I like talked to him. 520 00:24:39.799 --> 00:24:40.799 Bustin's the composer. 521 00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:43.440 And one of the things that Matt said about Austin's 522 00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:46.160 composing because I brought it up, is he's like, we 523 00:24:46.200 --> 00:24:48.759 don't ever want to play the same track of music twice, 524 00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:50.480 like it can loop in an area, we can have 525 00:24:50.519 --> 00:24:53.319 different stuff going on, but if you like leave and come. 526 00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:56.519 Back, I'd rather there's like no music than repeating. 527 00:24:56.039 --> 00:24:59.720 It because it's very like just the fact that Kyle 528 00:24:59.799 --> 00:25:01.720 keeps saying like it starts and then it just kind 529 00:25:01.759 --> 00:25:03.599 of goes until it stops where it's like they want 530 00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:06.240 you to keep going in on the path. 531 00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:08.000 And they're not like trying to. I don't know. It's 532 00:25:08.039 --> 00:25:10.799 a very like contained linear experience. 533 00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:14.720 And I was gonna say just to uh, I think 534 00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:17.119 I know what novel mechanicis you're talking about, Alex, and 535 00:25:17.160 --> 00:25:19.839 I think I disagree. I think I like the length 536 00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:23.200 that they're there, and in general, I kept finding the 537 00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:25.680 game where I'm like, it's just fun to just ride 538 00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:28.880 around on your sword board, and I'm like, man, I 539 00:25:28.960 --> 00:25:30.559 love jump in and I want to go up there. 540 00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:32.279 And every time there's a big hill, it's like I'm 541 00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:33.920 gonna jump off of that. And then I get to 542 00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:35.519 a new area, it's like, hey, by the way, you 543 00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:37.920 can do a new thing now, And I'm like, new thing? 544 00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:38.559 What? 545 00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:41.559 How lucky are we we get new things in this game. 546 00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:43.799 I would just ride on this sword forever and that'd 547 00:25:43.799 --> 00:25:44.160 be great. 548 00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:49.599 Yeah, yeah, well cool. Any Eric, are you gonna play 549 00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:51.640 this game? Are you a are you a giant squid? 550 00:25:51.680 --> 00:25:54.880 Fan or not really, I do like the studio. I 551 00:25:54.920 --> 00:25:57.480 actually I really enjoyed The Pathless when I played it. 552 00:25:57.680 --> 00:25:59.119 I don't think I finished it, but I did really 553 00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:01.880 enjoy what I played it. Uh, this has been on 554 00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:05.160 my radar, but we are once again entering the fall 555 00:26:05.319 --> 00:26:08.440 zone of there are too many video games. They're just 556 00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:11.680 that's too many games. So actually, y'all saying that this 557 00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:14.279 is only a couple hours long, many of you have 558 00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:23.319 moved it up the list for me because sorry, the 559 00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:28.519 ramones of video games. It's I think it's more doable 560 00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:30.279 in that sense if I know that it's going to 561 00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:34.279 be really impactful and also really contained. That's how you 562 00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:37.480 sell your game to me right now, is not don't 563 00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:40.440 tell me about your eighty hour epics. That's there's no 564 00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:45.440 time for that. I think playing this game, playing this game, 565 00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:47.920 you know we've got the I think Eric describes it 566 00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:50.480 as like the content goblin in your brain. 567 00:26:50.519 --> 00:26:53.400 I have a content goblin in my brain and that 568 00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:54.519 I make things. 569 00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:55.839 Yes all the time. 570 00:26:56.119 --> 00:26:56.680 Yeah. 571 00:26:56.880 --> 00:27:00.960 I feel similarly about whenever I play I'm like, Okay, 572 00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:02.599 how does this fit into Game of the Year at 573 00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:05.160 the end of the year, And I feel like I 574 00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:07.839 can't just enjoy games without being like, what kind of 575 00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:10.000 award would we give this, Like if is this, like 576 00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:11.279 what would this be in contention for? 577 00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:11.920 If anything? 578 00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:14.599 Sort of the Sea is one where I'm like, that's 579 00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:16.559 a really cool moment. I'm gonna jot that down for 580 00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:19.319 Game of the year time or mmm, that's a I 581 00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:22.119 think it's got my favorite arts art direction of the year, 582 00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:25.839 like it pay attention if you play it too. 583 00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:29.279 To the environment art. 584 00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:31.880 It's it's I know, it's like it's a game that 585 00:27:31.880 --> 00:27:34.960 you're moved very quickly through, and so I think being 586 00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:37.799 intentional about stopping and smalling the roses is a very 587 00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:40.000 cool thing. And you can kind of see the detail 588 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:42.519 that you might otherwise miss if you're kind of speeding 589 00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:45.039 along on your on your hover sword. 590 00:27:46.039 --> 00:27:48.160 I did, I did want to say that I think 591 00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:49.759 I have. I'm like, I'm like. 592 00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:51.720 Three and a half hours in and I haven't beaten it, 593 00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:54.039 and I was gonna ask you how much how much 594 00:27:54.279 --> 00:27:57.640 of the like little bits you're collecting, because I like 595 00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:01.880 gameplay is like I stop and I go back. Once 596 00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:04.400 you've like made more water appear, you can go and 597 00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:06.039 you can get all the little bits in the area. 598 00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:07.920 So I spent a lot of time just like I 599 00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:09.960 did that tracking and getting all of them. 600 00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:11.640 Maybe I didn't get as many as you. I mean 601 00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:15.240 I've unlocked like all of the crucial I think I 602 00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:17.359 by the end. This would be a good way to 603 00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:20.759 measure how many bits I collected. I think the last 604 00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:25.400 thing I unlocked was for two thousand bits. 605 00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:29.680 Okay, I'm I'm almost I think once I get to 606 00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:31.960 a guy, I'll have two thousand bits where I am. 607 00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:32.480 Okay. 608 00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:34.880 Yeah, I don't know if there's anything after that or 609 00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:37.759 what the thing is, but I was very I kept 610 00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:39.400 I kept getting to the place I'm like, oh, I'm 611 00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:40.720 only one hundred bits away. 612 00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:42.799 I bet I could go back and look under this 613 00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:44.599 rock or smash this pod or whatever. 614 00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:47.319 Yeah that's fair, I mean, that's I think. My perspective 615 00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:49.599 was like, these bits are going to be throughout the game, 616 00:28:50.279 --> 00:28:51.799 and I'm just gonna continue to get them. 617 00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:54.359 And sure, I just didn't want to. 618 00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:56.839 I don't think anything you unlock in it is game 619 00:28:56.960 --> 00:28:58.680 changing with the bits. 620 00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:02.599 I think I just wanted to know what the next 621 00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:03.480 thing was. 622 00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:08.160 And the idea, the idea that because there's like and 623 00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:09.799 then Alex, you beat it in two hours. You could 624 00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:12.000 beat it faster than that then, for sure if you 625 00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:14.200 were still going back and getting bits, because it's like 626 00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:17.359 if if once the path is unlocked, you can breeze 627 00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:19.799 through it pretty fast, this will be like a super 628 00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:25.799 cool speed run game. Also, but I was like, I know, 629 00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:27.319 I could just go from point A to point B, 630 00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:29.799 but there's so many little bits I could go back 631 00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:30.079 and get. 632 00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:31.960 They're called tetras. I don't know. I keep calling them 633 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:33.799 a little bit. Someone did an interview here and we 634 00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:35.599 learned they were called tetras. I'll call them that. 635 00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:38.160 But that's a good way to smell the roses. I 636 00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:39.880 guess it's like a fun it's a fun game to 637 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:41.799 kind of play in a completion of style for me 638 00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:44.599 because it's not too overwhelming, and also it just is 639 00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:46.559 fun to do flips. 640 00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:47.400 I agree. 641 00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:50.559 I might actually do a second play through and get 642 00:29:50.599 --> 00:29:51.119 more bits. 643 00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:52.680 Yeah, I mean, I can get some more movies. 644 00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:54.440 That's kind of way I did it because I was like, 645 00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:56.960 you know, there's like one more thing to get, and 646 00:29:57.000 --> 00:29:59.839 I was like, yeah, I can just like pick up 647 00:29:59.880 --> 00:30:01.200 our I left off, which is nice. 648 00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:04.880 Does your bit progression go yeah, whoa. 649 00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:06.000 Yeah, So you can just kind of keep going through 650 00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:07.240 the game and gather more bits. 651 00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:09.559 Yeah, I'm going to be playing this game for the 652 00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:10.200 rest of the year. 653 00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:12.319 I guess just. 654 00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:16.119 Getting back to the bit minds knew what they were called. 655 00:30:16.920 --> 00:30:18.400 Probably bitcoins, I don't know. 656 00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:23.400 Yes, yes, that seems right. Uh, Kyle, can we go 657 00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:25.079 back to you, Sarah? I know you got to get 658 00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:27.759 out of here soon. I believe in this a little early. 659 00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:30.119 But before you do, I'd love to hear your thoughts 660 00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:34.720 on Drag X Drive, which is the wheelchair basketball game 661 00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:39.039 that has been part of Nintendo's launch portfolio. 662 00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:40.240 Yeah. 663 00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:43.680 Can and you played it right, Yeah, a bit of it. 664 00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:45.079 Is there a campaign or. 665 00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:48.480 It's not, which is part of the problem, I guess 666 00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:51.640 you could say. But uh yeah, I mean just to 667 00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:56.440 sort of just so Brian like sometimes we'll have games 668 00:30:56.440 --> 00:30:59.160 that he doesn't immediately assign as reviews to people, you know, 669 00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:02.279 ye be like, anybody want to review or look at 670 00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:06.799 Drag Drive and it's just crickets. So we all have 671 00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:08.599 switched to is that we're very excited about it, But 672 00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:09.920 no one was raising her hand for that, and I 673 00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:11.680 was like I was the one that was kind of like, 674 00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:15.799 I'm curious. I'm curious about this thing. So I raised 675 00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:19.680 my hand and yeah, I mean my I did. I 676 00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:21.440 do have a proper review on the site. I gave 677 00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:23.680 it a six seven five, which is like not. 678 00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:26.920 Also, I'm just realizing how many games you've reviewed, Kyle. 679 00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:29.119 I know. Yeah, it's weird. 680 00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:31.640 He took he took, not that he took it. Brian 681 00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:33.400 took it from me. Well, no one took it from me. 682 00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:35.000 I was just busier, but I was going to. 683 00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:38.279 Changed times. 684 00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:42.319 Yeah, And I kept being like I can do it, 685 00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:43.640 I promise, and Brian's like. 686 00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:44.559 I'll just give it to Kyle. 687 00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:47.119 Is real, Okay, Charles, calm down, you can finish your 688 00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:48.559 Shadow Labyrinth review or whatever. 689 00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:50.359 Are you mad at me, Charles that I took sort 690 00:31:50.359 --> 00:31:52.759 of the game so you can play. 691 00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:56.440 We should to be totally honest of how I felt 692 00:31:56.440 --> 00:31:58.279 about it and the reason I didn't jump on drag 693 00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:00.599 x drive because I wasn't reviewing it, because I. 694 00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:02.839 Was like, I'm just I would like to review a 695 00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:03.720 good game. 696 00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:08.200 For work that I'm having fun playing, and I had 697 00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:11.880 done I wrote. I wrote my FBC Firebreak and my 698 00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:14.680 Shadow Labyrinth reviews on the same day because I like 699 00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:16.720 finally got to both of them after doing all this stuff, 700 00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:19.799 and in both instances, people were like, Charles, I think 701 00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:22.440 your score is too high for what your text is. 702 00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:24.599 I had to I was like, I think you're right. 703 00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:26.440 I think it's a lower score than it is. But 704 00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:29.440 I was like, I I'm glad I'm playing Sure to 705 00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:30.799 See on my own time because I don't have to 706 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:32.759 you know, rush or whatever. But I was also like, 707 00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:35.319 but I don't have I don't have another six of 708 00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:36.200 another six. 709 00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:37.759 In me to review Dragon Drive right now. 710 00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:39.920 And truly it was meant to be an active kindness. 711 00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:41.920 It was meant to take it off of your no, 712 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:45.880 I know, an act of mercy. Yes, it was weird for. 713 00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:47.359 Me to be overwhelmed by work and then be like, 714 00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:49.400 what what happened to my work? I was gonna do 715 00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:51.480 Like it was totally fine. I still got the games. 716 00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:55.759 Yeah, but yeah, Drag Extra Drive six out of ten. 717 00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:58.200 I mean, my my big sort of takeaway from Drag 718 00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:01.559 Drive Drag Extrive, Drag. I'm not sure how you pronounce it, 719 00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:01.799 is it? 720 00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:04.400 I think it's pronounced drag and dry. I feel like 721 00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:06.279 there's like some something. 722 00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:08.799 Like Hunter Hunter where you just don't pronounce the X. 723 00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:09.279 Yeah. 724 00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:10.640 Yeah, that's what I was wondering. 725 00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:13.240 But I mean, if only there was a symbol that 726 00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:16.279 they could use to to imply the word. 727 00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:20.640 And but my big takeaway was like playing this pronounced 728 00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:21.599 drag and drive. 729 00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:22.400 Drag and drive. 730 00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:26.319 Okay, yeah, okay, core is I I for you guys 731 00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:28.599 know those like little foldable like dinner tables that maybe 732 00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:31.599 you put out. That's what I was playing it on. 733 00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:34.759 And I was like, my big surprise was like this 734 00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:37.640 is actually works pretty well, Like this is this is 735 00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:41.240 not like like this isn't remind me of the era 736 00:33:41.359 --> 00:33:44.319 of like that those first few WEI games where you 737 00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:46.839 were like this is straight up like doesn't work. You know, 738 00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:50.759 yeah it is not that it works pretty well, and 739 00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:53.440 there are like it actually does give you nice options 740 00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:55.960 for like you can break on your right wheel and 741 00:33:56.039 --> 00:33:58.000 do like a quick turn and stuff like that. So 742 00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:00.720 and then like the act of shooting the basketball. Actually 743 00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:02.440 it's like just like you kind of lift it and 744 00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:04.920 like do like pantomime sort of shooting basketball. It works 745 00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:08.159 pretty well. It's like a good reminder that motion controls. 746 00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:12.039 So you are lifting off, you're pushing lifting off, lifting 747 00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:12.440 your hands. 748 00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:15.599 I mean it's you know, the TV table like it 749 00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:18.800 would be a this motion right, like a forward to 750 00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:20.360 back and then I'll lift up right. 751 00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:22.960 Yeah, Like, but if you just kind of like, I'm 752 00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:25.400 like you maybe lift your hand like, oh no, it's 753 00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:26.360 just a forward motion. 754 00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:29.639 I do have an important question, Kyle. Do you when 755 00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:32.840 you're shooting a basketball do you hold one hand still 756 00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:35.960 and push through with one only one arm or a 757 00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:39.480 person who pushes the ball upwards with both hands. Oh 758 00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:42.280 you mean like in real life, in real life and 759 00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:42.679 in the game. 760 00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:43.079 What's that? 761 00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:43.320 Fuck? 762 00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:46.320 Like in the game, it's just one hand. There's no 763 00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:48.559 advantage to like doing two hands like that. 764 00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:51.159 So it's just like, okay, so they're they're practicing good 765 00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:54.320 ball form handling, But is that what you do in 766 00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:54.760 real life? 767 00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:55.519 Real life? 768 00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:59.199 As I played basketball constantly, as you guys know, yeah, 769 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:03.440 always passing the rock, I go, I go back and forth. 770 00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:05.440 If I'm really far away, I kind of thrust with 771 00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:07.480 both hands. But if I'm closed it, you know, you know, 772 00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:08.239 it goes right. 773 00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:10.800 Okay, Yeah, just I just I just want to make 774 00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:14.360 sure the person reviewing this game has proper basketball form 775 00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:17.920 in real life. Well that who has ball knowledge and 776 00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:21.440 can review drag extra yeah. 777 00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:28.559 By turning around and walking away. But yeah, so the 778 00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:31.840 controls actually work pretty well, and it's funny. I the 779 00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:34.320 way I actually ended up playing it the most comfortably 780 00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:37.880 was wearing jeans and just doing it on my thighs. Actually, 781 00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:42.000 like that ended up being a more surprisingly, like comfortable 782 00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:45.000 way to play the game. So that was like a surprise. 783 00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:47.159 That's like a positive thing to say about Drag Drag 784 00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:50.199 and Drive is like that mechanic is unique and different 785 00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:52.719 and it actually works pretty well, and it does afford 786 00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:56.639 you some opportunity to like do you know, interesting quick 787 00:35:56.639 --> 00:35:58.639 turns and stuff like that. But it's it's not perfect, 788 00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:01.000 you know. It's like I still think you're obviously still 789 00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:03.480 gonna have better controls using a control stick, but that's 790 00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:05.880 not an option for this game. But I mean, the 791 00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:07.800 big thing about it is like it's like, Okay, that 792 00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:09.800 was the first hurdle. It's like, oh, the controls are 793 00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:12.280 weird and they and they actually work and there's nothing 794 00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:14.559 like this, you know. But then like the second part 795 00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:17.159 of it, it was like, well, there's like one mode 796 00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:19.840 which is like you hang around this area and occasionally 797 00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:22.480 you get thrown into games, which is like that's interesting 798 00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:24.519 that you kind of can watch people play live games 799 00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:26.840 and stuff like that, but it's like it's a. 800 00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:29.519 Area similar to like two K and how you can 801 00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:32.199 like two K in my part probably. 802 00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:34.880 How you play two K all the time right between games. 803 00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:36.599 Of yeah all the time. 804 00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:41.559 Yeah it's all but which is like that's that's neat, 805 00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:43.480 but it's and there's like there's not a lot to 806 00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:47.880 do in there, and between games sometimes they'll have a 807 00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:49.960 mode where like everyone who's in the lobby, like up 808 00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:52.239 to I think twelve people will kind of be thrown 809 00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:54.440 into like one mini game where it's like everyone try 810 00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:56.039 to get this rebound er. We'll have a race, and 811 00:36:56.079 --> 00:36:58.559 then you go back to just jumping into games and 812 00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:01.880 there's just like the games are like fine, I didn't 813 00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:05.239 really feel incentivized to keep playing. There's not really much. 814 00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:08.440 There's like a few unlockables to customize your character, but 815 00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:11.960 not really and like you kind of see everything the 816 00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:14.960 minigames have to offer in like twenty minutes, because it's 817 00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:17.039 like some of it's like racing between cones or like 818 00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:19.519 doing tricks off like half pipes and stuff like that, 819 00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:22.599 and it was like ultimately I was just kind of 820 00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:25.159 like I had no I didn't feel compelled to try 821 00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:26.800 to get better at the game because it was like 822 00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:29.840 not really a reason to like it was it was 823 00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:32.880 all it was all functional, but it's just like there's 824 00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:36.000 just not anything there really to hook you in or 825 00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:38.679 keep you going, you know, especially if if your reaction 826 00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:41.199 to basketball is like, oh this this works okay, Like 827 00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:43.039 that's kind of was like the nicest thing I could 828 00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:45.760 say about it, you know, And it's like, you know, 829 00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:49.440 it's developed by Nintendo and it's like a twenty dollars game, 830 00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:53.239 which is kind of like says a lot about it. 831 00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:53.800 You know. 832 00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:57.719 It's like they Nintendo usually charges absolutely as much as 833 00:37:57.719 --> 00:37:59.320 they can for this kind, which I guess you could 834 00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:03.000 argue they did year, but it's just it was just 835 00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:05.119 kind of it's just kind of a shallow game with 836 00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:07.559 interesting controls, and I do give it credit for that. 837 00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:10.159 It's like, wow, these there's nothing like this, and like 838 00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:13.280 you couldn't even port this to like PlayStation, like you know, 839 00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:15.519 like it's like it's just only really gonna work on 840 00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:19.000 switch to ultimately. I mean, I guess maybe you could 841 00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:21.679 do it on PC if you had like motion control 842 00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:23.880 mice or something. I don't even know if that's a thing, 843 00:38:24.280 --> 00:38:26.360 but like so it's like, yeah, you know, what kudos 844 00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:28.760 to that, Like you've made something that really only works 845 00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:31.320 on switch to and I admire it for that. But 846 00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:33.920 it's like beyond just playing for a little while, like 847 00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:35.559 you kind of get everything you're gonna get out of 848 00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:37.960 it quickly. I would be shocked if I ever booted 849 00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:40.239 this up again, other than to maybe show someone it's like, 850 00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:41.440 look this weird thing, you know? 851 00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:42.639 Yeah? 852 00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:45.760 So yeah, do you think it's like it has a 853 00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:49.000 place at like a gathering where a bunch of people 854 00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:51.280 are hanging out and it's like, oh, this there's this 855 00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:53.360 game we can all play together, like it is a 856 00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:56.800 multiplayer game. But does it does it have like like 857 00:38:56.840 --> 00:38:59.480 split screen local co op or co op? 858 00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:02.599 No, No, you need like both joy cons and stuff 859 00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:06.119 like it's I mean, it's you know how like maybe 860 00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:08.280 you buy a new TV and a new console and 861 00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:10.920 you're like you buy a PlayStation five and you're like, 862 00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:12.719 let me show you like Death Straining two so I 863 00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:14.480 can show up my TV. Like you can show that 864 00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:17.199 to a friend and be like this, doesn't this look amazing? 865 00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:20.519 Like that's kind of I think the height of Dragon Drive, 866 00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:22.079 where it's kind of like look at this weird thing. 867 00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:25.519 Is that's weird. Huh works pretty well? Huh, all right, 868 00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:26.360 yeah we can. 869 00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:30.440 We can play Bonanza now, Like that's kind of I 870 00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:33.920 think it'll have a weird legacy of being that, like 871 00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:35.400 we'll remember in a couple of years and be like. 872 00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:38.599 Oh yeah, Dragon Drive. That was a weird launch window title, 873 00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:38.960 you know. 874 00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:42.280 Yeah, that's And can you remind me of what the 875 00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:43.840 headline of your review was? 876 00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:45.400 Because I thought it was funny. 877 00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:49.639 I did change it, okay, because I yeah, originally it 878 00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:55.440 was my thumbs and wrist hurt, which it was like 879 00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:58.039 I liked and it was true, like it truly does 880 00:39:58.119 --> 00:39:59.960 hurt my thumbs and my wrist to play that game 881 00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:01.559 over a long period of time and that and that 882 00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:03.880 text is like in the review. But I changed the 883 00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:08.360 headline to be just like I think it was, like 884 00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:11.360 functional but shallow, just to kind of be more like 885 00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:14.159 explain exactly like if you if all you read is 886 00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:15.960 a score in the headline, at least you kind of 887 00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:18.480 know what I'm talking about. Where it's like even though 888 00:40:18.519 --> 00:40:21.360 it's like I like my my wrist and thumbs hurt, 889 00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:24.079 as like a funny headline is that? 890 00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:26.199 Yeah? Is that because you're playing it so much? Because 891 00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:29.599 you love it is that, right. Yeah. 892 00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:32.119 I do like the idea of someone like posting, like 893 00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:34.159 a food critic posting review of a new restaurant that 894 00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:38.760 just has my stomach yeah. 895 00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:42.480 Function shallow, that'd be a food review. 896 00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:46.079 I was not hungry after I left this restaurant. That's 897 00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:46.840 like the nicest thing. 898 00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:48.159 That's a good one. 899 00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:49.320 Yeah. 900 00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:51.239 But yeah, I mean, I guess I think some people 901 00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.159 looked at it as like this weird disaster kind of 902 00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:56.480 ahead of time, like what is this terrible thing? It's 903 00:40:56.519 --> 00:40:59.320 not that, but it's also just not like it's not 904 00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:02.760 like a you know, it's never going to go on sale, 905 00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:04.639 so I wouldn't say, like, you know, hey, maybe check 906 00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:07.039 it out when it's on sale because it's a Nintendo game. 907 00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:10.320 But yeah, it's fine. It's a little bit. It's like 908 00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:11.639 south of fine. You know. 909 00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:17.400 Well cool, Kyle, You've got to go. You've got places 910 00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:20.159 to be, things to do. Thank you for joining us 911 00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:24.000 on the magazines to Read and proof. Thank you for 912 00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:26.360 joining us on the show this week. Of course, people 913 00:41:26.440 --> 00:41:29.719 can find you almost every week here on the Game 914 00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:32.239 and former show, but in between they can follow you 915 00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:36.639 on social media at Kyle Hilliard or at Kyle M. 916 00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:38.159 Hilliard depending on the platform. 917 00:41:38.199 --> 00:41:40.480 What's on Blue Sky, which is where I'm at. Primarily 918 00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:42.559 it's I went through the trouble of getting the u 919 00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:44.800 r L. So Kyle Hilliard dot com on Blue Sky? 920 00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:49.000 Oh cool, so official, welcome, welcome to the custom r 921 00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:53.320 L me. Neither that's been verifying. 922 00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:57.400 It means nothing anymore. The check mark needs nothing. 923 00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:02.559 Yeah, it doesn't until like at one and then yeah, exactly. Yeah. 924 00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:05.960 For now it's just a bunch of elites in their 925 00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:10.440 dumb check marks. Yeah. But but once I get one, 926 00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:13.480 there'll be my peers who I adore. Well, I needed 927 00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:15.760 this to assure you that it is in fact me 928 00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:21.599 providing these terrible posts to in the morning. Yeah. Well, Kyle, 929 00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:23.800 we'll let you get out of here. Thanks for being 930 00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:26.679 with us today and we'll talk to you next week. 931 00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:30.360 Welcome back to the Game and Former Show. We're going 932 00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:34.840 to dive into our thoughts on Battlefield six. Eric and 933 00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:37.679 I played the open beta. I had a lot of fun. 934 00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:40.239 I'm not sure what Eric thought. It seemed like he 935 00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:43.360 was having fun with me while playing, but you never know. 936 00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:46.440 And then we're gonna get into is this seat taken 937 00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:51.480 by Charles? Followed by some quick games Colm highlights. Eric, 938 00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:55.320 let's talk about Battlefield, man, where are you at with it? 939 00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:58.239 Let's talk about the I believe it's the E key, 940 00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:01.119 which you can use for I have your teammates if 941 00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:05.480 they have fallen in battle. Now, this is a universal ability, 942 00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:12.760 I stress universal. Anyone can do this, especially one punch 943 00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:15.840 man who was in my lobby next to my dead 944 00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:20.599 body multiple times as I was flailing for help. You 945 00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:22.960 could have brought me back. That's all I got. No, 946 00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:25.519 I really like Battlefield. I've been a Battlefield player for 947 00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:27.079 a very long time, all the way back to nineteen 948 00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:29.920 forty two. That's like how I've been playing this game 949 00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:30.519 in the series. 950 00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:32.960 Yeah, guys are way older than I thought. 951 00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:37.000 I mean I was like, yeah, yeah I was. I 952 00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:42.000 was in the war, I was in the trenches. No, 953 00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:43.199 I wasn't apologized. 954 00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:45.360 I thought that joke would land way better than it did, 955 00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:46.000 and it did not. 956 00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:49.840 No, No, No, it's okay. Eric had stolen Valor joke 957 00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:52.719 to make Yeah, yeah, I can't stolen val around Gah, 958 00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:53.280 that's not right. 959 00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:56.119 No, But I've been playing since Battlefield nineteen forty two. 960 00:43:56.199 --> 00:43:59.199 I loved Battlefield that one and Battlefield two a lot. 961 00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:02.159 On the PC. I kind of fell off around three 962 00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:04.679 and four, and not because I didn't like them, I 963 00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:07.440 just wasn't playing them at the time. Sure, I have 964 00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:08.840 a feeling that was probably because I was playing a 965 00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:09.880 lot of cod at the time. 966 00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:12.880 Four was a little overrated, I think three Alzheimer. 967 00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:16.400 But I feel like everything posts let's say twenty one, 968 00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:20.519 forty two, or even post three. The Battlefield series has 969 00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:25.239 been trying to navigate the seas of change in the 970 00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:29.039 modern gaming environment. I felt this especially with some of 971 00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:33.519 their returns to older wars like Battlefield five and things 972 00:44:33.559 --> 00:44:36.920 like that, and Battlefield twenty forty two, which was the 973 00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:41.599 most recent, and also hard Line. Does anyone remember Hardline? 974 00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:43.440 I played hard Line for a hot minute, and that was. 975 00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:46.880 I didn't play Long one. I think I've played every 976 00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:48.800 Battlefield but hard Line. 977 00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:52.000 They tried to implement this idea that you would arrest 978 00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:59.480 people in a battlefield game. Crazy concept for the time. Yeah, yeah, 979 00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:02.400 that's what I I enjoyed doing in my team based 980 00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:09.760 squad shooter is arresting people. I really like Battlefield as 981 00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:13.199 a concept. I think on paper, maybe even more than 982 00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:16.519 Call of Duty, because I've always really liked the strategic layer. 983 00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:18.719 I love the metal layer stuff where you're kind of 984 00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:21.920 planning things out. My dad, actually, who also was the 985 00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:24.280 reason I got into Battlefield the first place, loved playing 986 00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:26.800 Commander in Battlefield two on PC where he would drop 987 00:45:26.960 --> 00:45:29.639 things in and coordinate with squad leaders. And he would 988 00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:32.239 be that dude on the mic being like, y'all go 989 00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:34.159 take here. I'm going to drop you some amo here. 990 00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:36.639 We're bringing in artillery support over. We can take b 991 00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:38.840 after we push for this, tanks are coming in and 992 00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:42.920 he was just on it like that. So all that 993 00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:48.480 being said, Battlefield six Open Beta feels like a solid 994 00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:51.639 battlefield game, about as solid as you can make a 995 00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:55.639 Battlefield game nowadays. It definitely feels pulled in different directions 996 00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:59.719 by all that it has to be. And I stress 997 00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:02.440 that because if you look up the developer of this game, 998 00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:09.960 it's Battlefield Studios. What are Battlefield Studios, Dice, Criterion, Motive, 999 00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:13.760 Ripple Effect, multiple devs that came in from other EA 1000 00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:15.199 studios to assist on this. 1001 00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:16.079 It is. 1002 00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:20.599 This is all chips down version of Battlefield. And they've 1003 00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:23.280 been saying as much at Electronic Arts that there's just 1004 00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:28.239 a lot of betting on Battlefield. This specific Battlefield taking 1005 00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:30.840 off and being the game that kind of springs this 1006 00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:35.440 franchise back to life, and I think the effort to 1007 00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:39.280 make it do that could ultimately be its undoing, because 1008 00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:43.800 I think the more that this game focuses on being 1009 00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:47.719 a good battlefield game, it's got some really solid stuff there. 1010 00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:49.519 I like what they're doing with the weapon loadouts. I 1011 00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:54.079 don't love the UI, but it's I enjoy getting the guns, 1012 00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:56.960 leveling up the guns, equipping them all kind of the 1013 00:46:57.000 --> 00:46:59.239 classic battlefield things that you do. I love being able 1014 00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:01.840 to freely swap between weapons on the different loadouts, so 1015 00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:04.079 I can go in as a medic but still be 1016 00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:07.239 running a DMR or running a carbine or running an 1017 00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:10.159 LMG and not have to worry too much about oh, 1018 00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:11.760 I have to be a certain class so that means 1019 00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:13.480 I have to use a certain gun in the field. 1020 00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:15.880 That's interesting. Let's put a pin in that. I'm going 1021 00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:17.639 to come back to that later, but please keep going. 1022 00:47:18.039 --> 00:47:20.679 But it's a lot of I don't know if you 1023 00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:22.559 felt this when we were trying to lobby up and play, 1024 00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:25.599 but there's just so many menus. It's clear that the 1025 00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:28.280 groundwork is laid here for them to try and push. 1026 00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:31.760 Here are all the different Matt playlists that you can do, 1027 00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:34.440 and here's the things that you can chase after, and 1028 00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:39.480 it's this idea of the how do I put this? 1029 00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:45.480 It is the massive universe of content, not quite chasing 1030 00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:48.639 Fortnite or roadblocks in terms of how expansive it could be, 1031 00:47:48.639 --> 00:47:50.800 because I don't think it can do that. But every 1032 00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:53.239 shooter does kind of want some of that pie, right, 1033 00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:57.079 like they want that level of we are larger than 1034 00:47:57.199 --> 00:48:01.679 just playing a team based shooter, because there's something attractive 1035 00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:04.760 about being as big as Fortnite, right There's there's something 1036 00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:07.159 alluring about that, especially to people who like money. But 1037 00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:10.599 I don't know if Battlefield can or should be that. 1038 00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:14.159 I think Battlefield works best when it is battlefield and 1039 00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:16.079 we're on a map and we were playing I think 1040 00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:17.480 it was a rush game the other night, and I'm 1041 00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:20.559 not even a huge rush fan. I'm mostly a conquest fan. 1042 00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:23.320 But we were locking down a point, we were holding it. 1043 00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:24.719 There was a part where you and I were kind 1044 00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:27.800 of doing this infiltration and we were moving from one 1045 00:48:27.800 --> 00:48:30.159 point to another and we were checking corners and the 1046 00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:32.119 squad was spawning in on us, and it felt like we 1047 00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:35.360 were doing like a real push into enemy territory to 1048 00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:38.280 like hold a location and I was like, that's battlefield 1049 00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:40.599 to me, that is that moment of it. 1050 00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:43.599 I remember that exact moment too. I was like this 1051 00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:47.360 it did. It felt very cool and like the fact 1052 00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:49.440 that like we there was like a sniper pinning us 1053 00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:52.320 down and like you know, you got shot and I 1054 00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:54.400 like try to sneak around and shoot this night because 1055 00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:56.880 I was playing a recon as well. That felt really 1056 00:48:56.880 --> 00:49:00.079 cool to me. And I agree with a lot of 1057 00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:04.639 your points. I think I don't know, did you because 1058 00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:07.039 I know we played the first day together and then 1059 00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:11.039 I played again in the closed weapon lobbies? Did you 1060 00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:11.840 play any of that? 1061 00:49:11.920 --> 00:49:13.599 I haven't tried the closed weapon lobbies? 1062 00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:18.320 Okay, I liked that a lot. It was way more 1063 00:49:18.480 --> 00:49:21.400 like classic battlefield, where like your weapons are locked to 1064 00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:24.719 your class, and I found that it was it felt 1065 00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:28.320 less chaotic and more organized as a team. I think 1066 00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:31.719 one of the things that recent battle especially twenty forty two, 1067 00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:38.320 fell into is just feeling like chaos, and there there 1068 00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:40.679 is an element of chaos to battlefield, like that is 1069 00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:42.760 has always been part of the charm, you know, like 1070 00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:46.440 you know, the the iconic video of like the dude 1071 00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:50.000 jumping out of the jet rocketing. You know that all 1072 00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:52.639 the viral collipse like that is born out of call 1073 00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:58.000 of or not God not called du battlefields commitment to 1074 00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:02.960 kind of cultivating those moments of chaos. But I think 1075 00:50:03.039 --> 00:50:05.679 some recent releases have gone a little too far in that, 1076 00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:11.079 and like I think it just feels like two kids 1077 00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:13.079 like playing with a bunch of army figures and just 1078 00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:19.159 smashing them together, and less so a tactical multiplayer experience 1079 00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:21.119 that I think a lot of us fell in love 1080 00:50:21.119 --> 00:50:23.920 with the battlefield for, you know, being strategic about which 1081 00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:26.760 points we're going after, do we have, how's the balance 1082 00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:29.159 on our team when it comes to you know, assault 1083 00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:33.400 versus you know, recon or support or engineers. Yeah, And 1084 00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:40.480 I felt like the closed matchmaking playlist kind of got 1085 00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:43.079 me more in that in that area, and I was 1086 00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:46.719 really enjoying it so much so that I'm I'm I'm sad, 1087 00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:51.360 I'm sad the beta is over now because that would 1088 00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:56.679 hit it would that would hit right now? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1089 00:50:56.840 --> 00:51:00.360 I think my thing with it and maybe the biggest 1090 00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:03.760 because I think ultimately I like having the open weapons personally, 1091 00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:06.199 just because if I'm a medic and I'm on a 1092 00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:08.760 big map, sometimes it's like, why do I have to 1093 00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:11.800 use an annoying little carbine? At least give me like 1094 00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:16.400 some level of weapons variation, especially on differing map sizes 1095 00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:18.679 and things like that. I feel that addresses some of it. 1096 00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:20.519 There are always going to be people who roll in 1097 00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:22.679 and they're like, I'm whatever class, but I also have 1098 00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:24.119 a sniper rifle and I'm going to play like a 1099 00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:25.840 sniper the whole time. Yeah, that's always going to happen, 1100 00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:29.159 but I like at least that now when somebody plays 1101 00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:32.800 Recon and they're scoping, they like auto tag people. I 1102 00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:34.960 don't know if that was a twenty forty two edition 1103 00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:35.400 or not. 1104 00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:39.519 The auto tag is a auto tag is a passive 1105 00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:40.960 perk of the recon. 1106 00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:44.320 Of Recon specifically, I don't know when, if that got 1107 00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:47.400 added or if it's new for Battlefield six or not. 1108 00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:49.199 That tells you how much I really played of twenty 1109 00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:53.039 forty two at the end of the day, but especially Recon. 1110 00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:57.000 I'm sorry, I don't play Recon. I like snipers. 1111 00:51:57.079 --> 00:51:59.800 Okay, I'll hold that I play Recon. I'll hold that 1112 00:51:59.840 --> 00:52:03.760 I play support. I like to fix up the tanks. 1113 00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:06.039 I like to make sure that our armor's doing well, 1114 00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:07.920 and I like to take out their armor if I can, 1115 00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:12.039 because I'm all about that that infantry vehicle interaction. But 1116 00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:16.880 to that point, one thing that is already kind of 1117 00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:18.400 a knock against the game for me is that I 1118 00:52:18.440 --> 00:52:19.880 don't feel like the maps. 1119 00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:24.159 Are super memorable. And even in twenty forty two, a 1120 00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:27.320 game which did get i think rightly so a lot 1121 00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:32.880 of criticism, there were specific maps, specifically that rocket one 1122 00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:34.880 where where there was a rocket that took off and 1123 00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:39.840 stuff like that, that had big landmarks, noticeable points of contention, 1124 00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:43.000 things that people would try and fight and buy over. 1125 00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:46.639 It felt like there were important areas of the map 1126 00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:50.599 that felt important to hold and that made a statement. 1127 00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:53.920 And the maps that at least we played in the 1128 00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:57.280 open beta did not really have that. They all just 1129 00:52:57.400 --> 00:53:00.440 kind of felt like urban environments that had a lot 1130 00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:04.400 of buildings. And I don't know if this is maybe 1131 00:53:04.440 --> 00:53:09.039 just me not finding those particular maps remarkable, or if 1132 00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:12.079 there's a level of there's a lot of destruction in 1133 00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:16.159 this game, a lot of level devolution and hitting stuff 1134 00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:18.400 with a tank shell or an RPG and causing it 1135 00:53:18.440 --> 00:53:21.519 to fracture. But by about five minutes into any match. 1136 00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:25.440 Most buildings are some form of the side has been 1137 00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:28.119 blown out. There's kind of little outcroppings and ledges you 1138 00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:30.559 can get to with windowsills that might provide some cover 1139 00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:33.840 for all of about ten seconds before another grenade or 1140 00:53:33.920 --> 00:53:36.199 rocket takes it out and now it's just an open hole. 1141 00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:40.360 It feels like you're kind of decaying the level into 1142 00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:43.599 its base, like you're bonanzaing the level in real time, 1143 00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:47.480 and that actually it actually makes some of those areas 1144 00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:51.639 start to feel less identifiable and important to me if 1145 00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:54.480 everything is destroyable. I know that might be controversial for 1146 00:53:54.480 --> 00:53:58.039 the battlefield fans, but I do feel like there's some 1147 00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:02.800 level of you need lands, You need places that have importance, 1148 00:54:03.320 --> 00:54:07.639 that have a degree of rigidity to them, So then 1149 00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:11.039 you have kind of a funnel effect of Let's say 1150 00:54:11.039 --> 00:54:13.920 there's there's a map that has like a football stadium 1151 00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:16.119 in the middle of it or something like that, that 1152 00:54:16.199 --> 00:54:18.920 becomes like a really good landmark to base yourself around. 1153 00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:22.039 Oh hey, there's a tank. It's sweeping around the left 1154 00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:25.400 side of the football stadium something like that. Instead you're 1155 00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:31.159 kind of just going like tank east question mark. I 1156 00:54:31.199 --> 00:54:33.639 don't even know if that's east, Like that's a tank 1157 00:54:33.719 --> 00:54:35.800 over there and you pay it and that's about all 1158 00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:39.159 you can really do. And I feel like that's going 1159 00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:42.960 to affect that level of communication and interaction that that 1160 00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:46.280 normally happens. Maybe people don't want that anymore either. That's 1161 00:54:46.360 --> 00:54:48.320 maybe the other thing is maybe people don't want to 1162 00:54:48.360 --> 00:54:51.800 talk on video games anymore. They just want to like 1163 00:54:51.880 --> 00:54:55.360 be in discord with their friends and not participate with 1164 00:54:55.400 --> 00:54:58.519 the broader group. Maybe that's where I am different. So 1165 00:54:58.559 --> 00:54:59.440 who says that's fair? 1166 00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:03.199 You know, I am taking a look right now on 1167 00:55:03.239 --> 00:55:05.800 the website. They've kind of got They've announced a lot 1168 00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:07.760 of maybe not a lot of, but they've announced the 1169 00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:11.519 slight of launch maps. The ones that we played that 1170 00:55:11.920 --> 00:55:15.880 were available when we played were Siege of Cairo, Liberation Peak, 1171 00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:19.119 and Empire State. I think out of those three, I 1172 00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:22.000 only ever got matched into Liberation Peak or Siege of Cairo. 1173 00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:25.440 I don't know if I got mapped, got match made 1174 00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:26.440 into Empire State. 1175 00:55:26.679 --> 00:55:28.320 I don't remember it off the top of my head. 1176 00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:28.440 No. 1177 00:55:28.679 --> 00:55:31.400 I remember there was the Rush map specifically, I think 1178 00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:33.239 stood out the most to me, and that was because 1179 00:55:33.239 --> 00:55:36.039 of there was some interesting elevation that we were trying 1180 00:55:36.079 --> 00:55:37.840 to hold on one of the points, and we were 1181 00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:40.800 really locking it down, and it was creating these interesting 1182 00:55:40.840 --> 00:55:44.920 funnel points and places where people could run in and 1183 00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:47.000 cause damage, and so we'd have to watch all these 1184 00:55:47.000 --> 00:55:49.280 different windows and doors and things like that, and it 1185 00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:51.800 felt like we were really hunkering down in an area, 1186 00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:55.440 and so that stood out. But I don't know that 1187 00:55:55.559 --> 00:55:57.840 many of the There was the one that was kind 1188 00:55:57.840 --> 00:56:00.400 of just a conquest map that I felt like we 1189 00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:03.360 were just going back and forth across on the entire time, 1190 00:56:03.519 --> 00:56:06.840 and I never really remarked upon it. I do remember 1191 00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:09.559 the mountains one that had a lot of mountains in it, 1192 00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:11.920 and that I had one kind of area in the 1193 00:56:11.960 --> 00:56:14.360 middle that had some cool elevation, and so holding that 1194 00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:17.320 spot became really important because it was super easy to 1195 00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:21.519 defend because you have the elevation advantage. But get a 1196 00:56:21.559 --> 00:56:24.280 tank rolling up there in infantry surging behind them, Suddenly 1197 00:56:24.280 --> 00:56:25.679 you can push in and now you've got a really 1198 00:56:25.679 --> 00:56:28.599 good foothold to advance your offensive across the rest of 1199 00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:31.000 the map. I like using hand motions when. 1200 00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:35.440 I describe, yeah, I you know, looking at the other 1201 00:56:35.559 --> 00:56:40.679 maps on that are slated Operation Firestorm from Battlefield three 1202 00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:44.280 is returning. That's not the Battlefield three map. I want 1203 00:56:44.320 --> 00:56:46.119 them to bring back. I want them to bring back 1204 00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:50.880 Oh god, it's the one where you jump off at 1205 00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:53.440 the edge and you have to skydive down. 1206 00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:56.039 Yeah. I think I remember what you're talking about. 1207 00:56:56.159 --> 00:57:01.239 Yeah, yeah, maybe not. I also being border is also good, 1208 00:57:01.559 --> 00:57:05.719 very good one. Yeah. There's a lot of battlefield maps 1209 00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:07.440 that that's they could bring back. 1210 00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:10.599 But there are a few that are I think they'll 1211 00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:12.880 probably bring back at some point when they have to 1212 00:57:12.920 --> 00:57:16.199 start doing the you know, bring players back stuff, and 1213 00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:19.199 they'll start there's usually always a reskin of Wake Island 1214 00:57:19.280 --> 00:57:21.519 or something like that from the A nineteen forty two 1215 00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:23.320 and and and stuff like that. So I wouldn't be 1216 00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:24.679 surprised to see that pop. 1217 00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:27.280 In you put you put Wake Island in this game. 1218 00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:29.599 I'll be there, wait Wake Island twenty four to seven 1219 00:57:29.639 --> 00:57:31.480 servers find me there any data? 1220 00:57:31.559 --> 00:57:34.039 Yeah, but I actually don't know if they have boats 1221 00:57:34.079 --> 00:57:38.639 in this game. I don't think they have any naval maps. Yeah, 1222 00:57:38.760 --> 00:57:40.599 and I'm looking at the slate. They've got a like 1223 00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:45.360 French Quarter infantry only map. They've got Operation Firestorm. Rance 1224 00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:50.280 does not have boats. You're right, New Sobic City, which 1225 00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:55.400 is on the outskirts of Cairo. They've got Mirek Valley, 1226 00:57:55.440 --> 00:57:59.840 which is the largest map at launch, a massive war 1227 00:57:59.840 --> 00:58:02.920 time or in landscape filled with every type of vehicle. Interesting. 1228 00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:04.880 I wonder if that means boats also fell. 1229 00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:08.000 I felt like vehicles were a little understated in what 1230 00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:09.280 we played. I don't know if that was because of 1231 00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:11.360 the modes we kept getting matched into, but I feel 1232 00:58:11.400 --> 00:58:16.920 like I mostly saw a few APCs, IFVs, and then 1233 00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:20.119 maybe a tank every now and then. But maybe that's 1234 00:58:20.159 --> 00:58:23.039 also because, and this is something I love about Battlefield, 1235 00:58:23.599 --> 00:58:28.079 there's always somebody who camps out waiting for the helicopter. 1236 00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:29.159 Or the plane or the jet. Yeah. 1237 00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:32.079 Yeah, it jumps in it and just immediately beefs it. 1238 00:58:32.679 --> 00:58:35.800 Yeah. I saw that playoff in one of our matches. 1239 00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:38.639 I literally saw somebody take off with the helicopter and 1240 00:58:38.639 --> 00:58:40.960 do the giant bomb thing of like fly off and 1241 00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:43.039 then land on the roads and explode. 1242 00:58:43.719 --> 00:58:43.920 Yeah. 1243 00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:47.559 That's that's Battlefield to me. That's beautiful. 1244 00:58:47.639 --> 00:58:50.719 Yeah. I am definitely going to play the full release. 1245 00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:53.400 I'm looking forward to it. It's yeah. I think the 1246 00:58:53.639 --> 00:58:57.280 big thing is like where will this fall in the 1247 00:58:57.480 --> 00:59:02.280 echelon of Battlefield kind of will be towards the top, 1248 00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:04.719 middle bottom. I kind of feel like somewhere in the 1249 00:59:04.719 --> 00:59:06.239 middle is kind of what I'm feeling right now, Like 1250 00:59:06.280 --> 00:59:11.039 it doesn't feel particularly stand out. However, I am just 1251 00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:18.039 excited to have a battlefield that is, you know, supported again, 1252 00:59:18.199 --> 00:59:22.039 And I think the expansions they're making to Portal, which 1253 00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:28.639 is their Good Dough powered ug U GC stuff that 1254 00:59:28.679 --> 00:59:31.800 could be interesting. And I think it's really cool that 1255 00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:36.280 it's like they're using good Dough to make that. But yeah, 1256 00:59:36.280 --> 00:59:37.760 I don't know what we'll see how how it all 1257 00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:43.840 shakes out. Yeah, I just I feel like that, like 1258 00:59:43.920 --> 00:59:47.119 you said, Eric, like they've been pretty public about this game, 1259 00:59:47.400 --> 00:59:51.039 there's a lot riding on it, and I'm right now 1260 00:59:52.440 --> 00:59:56.320 I'm not seeing it like I'm going to probably enjoy 1261 00:59:56.360 --> 00:59:57.920 it based on what I've played. If it's anything like 1262 00:59:57.960 --> 01:00:00.280 what I've played, I'll find a lot of enjoyment out 1263 01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:04.159 of it. But I am very specifically somebody who will 1264 01:00:04.199 --> 01:00:07.400 hop around from those various games and spend a couple 1265 01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:10.679 of weeks in them and then I'm out. And I'm curious, 1266 01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:13.199 like how many people are like that, or if there 1267 01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:14.840 are going to be people that this kind of gets 1268 01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:20.159 its hooks in. I guess we'll see, but yeah, Battlefield 1269 01:00:20.239 --> 01:00:23.960 six out October. Don't have the date on the top 1270 01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:25.719 of my head, I can. I can grab it real quick. 1271 01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:36.039 Is October tenth, October tenth. 1272 01:00:36.039 --> 01:00:36.519 Thank you. 1273 01:00:38.119 --> 01:00:40.360 Google. AI served me a bunch of nonsense that I 1274 01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:43.559 didn't want. So at the top of the feed. 1275 01:00:43.480 --> 01:00:47.000 Well that might character. That might also be a double 1276 01:00:47.079 --> 01:00:49.519 check you. Okay, no, that's real, that's real. For the 1277 01:00:49.559 --> 01:00:51.280 first thing it gave me was a new story, but 1278 01:00:51.320 --> 01:00:53.559 it was like a leak new story, and I was like, oh. 1279 01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:57.000 I scrolled down and there was the official Battlefield six. 1280 01:00:57.800 --> 01:00:58.880 I was like, okay, good. 1281 01:01:00.239 --> 01:01:03.480 Well, Charles, before we get to our game, some highlights 1282 01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:06.760 I want toss you to talk about. Is this seat taken? Yeah, 1283 01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:09.280 game I've been looking forward to. I got announced what 1284 01:01:09.320 --> 01:01:11.519 a few months ago, probably six months ago. 1285 01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:14.880 I have no idea I'll so I'll be hon it. 1286 01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:18.599 This just happens sometimes, is you aren't You don't know 1287 01:01:18.679 --> 01:01:20.559 every game that comes out in the job, and then 1288 01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:22.559 you get an email of someone like, hey, here's a 1289 01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:23.480 game that's out. 1290 01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:24.960 And I was like, yeah, that's cool. 1291 01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:27.519 And they a lot sometimes, especially when it's like a 1292 01:01:27.519 --> 01:01:29.320 smaller game, They're like, here's a game. 1293 01:01:29.559 --> 01:01:31.519 Here's a code. If you want to check it out, 1294 01:01:31.719 --> 01:01:34.920 go ahead and do it. And I usually just kind 1295 01:01:34.920 --> 01:01:36.840 of scroll through those and mark them off as red. 1296 01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:39.119 I'll reply to them sometimes, but you know, you just 1297 01:01:39.159 --> 01:01:40.719 have a lot of stuff going on, and any any 1298 01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:43.119 given day you got like a dozen emails of indie 1299 01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:45.519 games that are trying to get attention, which I wish 1300 01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:47.360 I could give attention to all of them in said 1301 01:01:47.360 --> 01:01:49.719 of some other stuff, but I digress. 1302 01:01:50.320 --> 01:01:52.559 This was one where I like from the email is like. 1303 01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:55.159 Huh, this seems cool, and then I downloaded it and 1304 01:01:55.199 --> 01:01:59.199 then it like shadow dropped. I want to say at 1305 01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:02.840 one of them in Tendo things, it know what it 1306 01:02:02.880 --> 01:02:04.079 was it shadow dropped one day. 1307 01:02:04.159 --> 01:02:06.920 It is definitely featured on I think the most recent 1308 01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:09.480 Nintendo Indie Showcase if I remember correct. 1309 01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:11.800 Yeah, yeah, yeah, because there was the partner director and 1310 01:02:11.840 --> 01:02:13.480 there's any World, but this is definitely more indie world. 1311 01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:17.000 Anyways, I love this game. I'm planning on reviewing it. 1312 01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:18.400 I don't know if i'll have it up by the 1313 01:02:18.440 --> 01:02:21.719 time this episode goes up, but I'm hoping to get 1314 01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:25.280 it up this week. But the gist of the game 1315 01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:28.599 is that it's you are in various settings in which 1316 01:02:28.639 --> 01:02:31.000 people can sit down or stand up, or it could 1317 01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:33.119 be arranged certain ways, and you have a crowd of 1318 01:02:33.159 --> 01:02:35.599 people that want to populate the area and they all 1319 01:02:35.639 --> 01:02:38.239 have little different preferences. So it'll start off and it's 1320 01:02:38.280 --> 01:02:41.280 just like we're going on the bus and Bob wants 1321 01:02:41.280 --> 01:02:44.960 a nile seat and Tom wants a window seat, and it's. 1322 01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:46.440 Like, okay, that's pretty eas I can do that classic. 1323 01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:49.639 But then it's like Bob wants anile seat, Tom wants 1324 01:02:49.679 --> 01:02:53.400 a window seat, but Tom hasn't showered and Bob hates 1325 01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:56.079 bad smells, so it's like, okay, now you gotta spread them. 1326 01:02:56.199 --> 01:02:59.320 Art sounds like some good game design. I like it. 1327 01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:03.840 And the farther you get, the more specific, the more 1328 01:03:03.960 --> 01:03:06.719 varied and specific it gets. So like you'll have a 1329 01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:09.920 later bus level where it's like blah blah blah, Martha 1330 01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:12.960 gets motion sick at the back of the bus, or 1331 01:03:14.360 --> 01:03:16.519 Johnny wants someone to talk to and so you need 1332 01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:18.000 to sit him next to someone else that wants to 1333 01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:19.760 talk to someone. But then when they're talking to me 1334 01:03:19.800 --> 01:03:21.840 to create a field of noise, and someone who wants 1335 01:03:21.880 --> 01:03:24.159 to sleep can't sit near them, and so I'm just 1336 01:03:24.320 --> 01:03:27.920 very impressed by the best puzzle games to me are 1337 01:03:28.239 --> 01:03:33.840 a I like it when a game gets more complex 1338 01:03:34.159 --> 01:03:36.440 and that's where the challenge comes from, rather than just 1339 01:03:36.559 --> 01:03:40.079 like making really really intense versions of the same thing, 1340 01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:41.639 because there's a there's a version of this where it's 1341 01:03:41.679 --> 01:03:44.119 only island window seats and bad smelling people or whatever, 1342 01:03:44.280 --> 01:03:46.719 and there's like one solution every single one. 1343 01:03:46.840 --> 01:03:48.199 Instead, I like that, it's like. 1344 01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:53.639 There's those there's boat levels where you've got seats on 1345 01:03:53.679 --> 01:03:56.519 the edge and then seats in the middle, and that 1346 01:03:56.599 --> 01:03:58.480 kind of plays around with like who's adjacent to who. 1347 01:03:58.519 --> 01:03:59.960 But some people don't want to get in the waters, 1348 01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:03.159 some people need sunscreen, some people have sunscreen. There's a 1349 01:04:03.159 --> 01:04:07.199 classroom level where the teacher wants everyone to focus, and 1350 01:04:07.280 --> 01:04:08.920 some people will talk if they're next. 1351 01:04:08.800 --> 01:04:10.400 To each other, so you have to be really strategic 1352 01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:11.039 about all of it. 1353 01:04:11.880 --> 01:04:17.800 My favorite ones are at airport levels, where there's the 1354 01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:20.840 seats and then there's the line to board the plane, 1355 01:04:21.280 --> 01:04:23.880 and each person has a flight number that they're getting on, 1356 01:04:24.280 --> 01:04:25.519 and so you have to pay attention to what their 1357 01:04:25.559 --> 01:04:27.840 flight number is to see if they're sitting down or 1358 01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:28.400 in line. 1359 01:04:28.920 --> 01:04:29.679 And then there's like. 1360 01:04:29.639 --> 01:04:32.079 Some people have the VIP pass. Some people don't have 1361 01:04:32.119 --> 01:04:34.039 a VIP pass, so you have to be in different ones. 1362 01:04:34.280 --> 01:04:36.559 You gotta sign up for the skymiles, y'all. 1363 01:04:36.440 --> 01:04:37.480 Yeah, exactly. 1364 01:04:38.840 --> 01:04:41.119 There's some people where it's like this guy's watching a 1365 01:04:41.159 --> 01:04:43.760 movie really loudly on his phone, and this guy wants 1366 01:04:43.760 --> 01:04:45.639 to sleep, so don't put him next to that. But 1367 01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:47.679 then also it'll be like this guy really wants to 1368 01:04:47.679 --> 01:04:50.039 watch a movie on someone else's phone, so you get 1369 01:04:50.119 --> 01:04:52.280 to put them next to them. So I it's the 1370 01:04:52.599 --> 01:04:55.320 criteria that they make and the conditions in which they're met. 1371 01:04:56.159 --> 01:04:59.079 It's new and exciting every level, and then each locale 1372 01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:03.960 it also tells a story. There's a character whose name 1373 01:05:04.039 --> 01:05:07.320 I can't remember, but Nat I. 1374 01:05:07.239 --> 01:05:08.440 Think is the main character's name. 1375 01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:11.280 Everyone is little like shapes, so it's like squares and 1376 01:05:11.280 --> 01:05:15.360 circles and triangles and rohmbuses and stuff, and that is 1377 01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:17.800 a rhombus who wants to be an actor, and so 1378 01:05:17.840 --> 01:05:20.039 you kind of watch their journey as they like find 1379 01:05:20.039 --> 01:05:22.559 out there's another rhombus actor that they want to go find, 1380 01:05:22.599 --> 01:05:26.159 and it's like as they go from Barcelona to Paris 1381 01:05:26.159 --> 01:05:28.440 to New York to some other place. 1382 01:05:29.599 --> 01:05:31.559 And it's an interesting. It's not like a heavy story. 1383 01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:34.320 It's just like each area, so like a bus level, 1384 01:05:34.360 --> 01:05:37.440 for example, will have like five different stages, so you'll 1385 01:05:37.440 --> 01:05:41.760 do just five different combinations of increasingly complicated people in 1386 01:05:41.800 --> 01:05:43.639 that space, and one of those five will have like 1387 01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:45.880 a little dialogue exchange between Thata and someone else to 1388 01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:47.920 kind of explain what's going on in the story. But 1389 01:05:47.960 --> 01:05:51.079 I appreciate that the story is also about someone trying 1390 01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:53.480 to fit in and find their spot, much like what 1391 01:05:53.599 --> 01:05:57.280 is happening in the literal puzzle levels, which is cool, 1392 01:05:57.320 --> 01:05:59.880 and the music's nice and the art is nice as 1393 01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:01.519 fun sound design. 1394 01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:03.199 You can. 1395 01:06:03.360 --> 01:06:05.719 I think you can complete the levels without getting everyone 1396 01:06:05.719 --> 01:06:08.559 in the right spot. I've just been perfecting all of 1397 01:06:08.599 --> 01:06:10.519 them because it feels like the correct way to. 1398 01:06:10.760 --> 01:06:14.800 Is it like a star ranking kind of, I think. 1399 01:06:14.679 --> 01:06:16.599 So, like you get a point for every person that's 1400 01:06:16.639 --> 01:06:20.639 like satisfied, so I haven't all tested out before I 1401 01:06:20.679 --> 01:06:22.039 actually submit the review. 1402 01:06:22.079 --> 01:06:23.320 But like, for. 1403 01:06:23.239 --> 01:06:25.880 Example, if everyone satisfied but one person wanted to sleep 1404 01:06:25.920 --> 01:06:27.760 and they're near someone loud, then you just wouldn't get 1405 01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:30.760 a point for that person. I did one level where 1406 01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:32.559 I had one person that was unsatisfied, and it didn't 1407 01:06:32.599 --> 01:06:34.280 catch it un till afterwards. 1408 01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:38.440 Can't and then I could go back. They just wanted 1409 01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:39.960 to sleep. Why would you do that? 1410 01:06:42.960 --> 01:06:46.599 But and then if you get all the stars in 1411 01:06:46.639 --> 01:06:48.400 one like city, so if you got all the stars 1412 01:06:48.440 --> 01:06:50.519 in Barcelona, then you get a little bonus level. That's 1413 01:06:50.519 --> 01:06:53.519 like a really specific situation. That's really cool. 1414 01:06:53.800 --> 01:06:56.119 So I did a wedding. 1415 01:06:55.719 --> 01:06:57.840 Where you have to decide, like people want to sit 1416 01:06:57.920 --> 01:07:00.280 near certain people, and someone's like the bride and groom 1417 01:07:00.280 --> 01:07:01.639 and they got to be in the special spots, and 1418 01:07:01.639 --> 01:07:03.480 other people want fish, you know, other people want chicken, 1419 01:07:03.480 --> 01:07:05.719 et cetera. And then there's one that's like a dance 1420 01:07:05.800 --> 01:07:07.719 party and someone needs to be near the speaker. And 1421 01:07:07.760 --> 01:07:10.159 this guy's like, I'm in the band, put me on stage. 1422 01:07:10.960 --> 01:07:11.440 And it's just. 1423 01:07:11.599 --> 01:07:15.400 Very very charming, very good. Highly recommend. It's on switch 1424 01:07:15.480 --> 01:07:18.440 and uh PC, I'm playing on PC. 1425 01:07:18.559 --> 01:07:19.039 It's nice. 1426 01:07:19.239 --> 01:07:20.000 Nice to have the mouse. 1427 01:07:20.079 --> 01:07:21.119 I wonder if you can use the mouse on the 1428 01:07:21.119 --> 01:07:23.519 switch to version. I think it's just Switch one actually, 1429 01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:25.840 but still good game. 1430 01:07:26.800 --> 01:07:30.079 Hell yeah, sounds like Toaster is going buck wild in 1431 01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:30.639 the background. 1432 01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:32.320 I didn't know if you guys could hear that or not. 1433 01:07:32.559 --> 01:07:37.039 It's okay, it's okay. I want to acknowled for a sec. Yeah, no, no, no, 1434 01:07:37.079 --> 01:07:38.440 we don't need to pause. I just want to say, 1435 01:07:38.440 --> 01:07:42.159 shout out to toaster, shout toast, hold it down, whatever 1436 01:07:42.239 --> 01:07:43.920 is happening out there. He's on top of it. 1437 01:07:44.320 --> 01:07:46.440 He doesn't care if the seat's taken. He's gonna yell 1438 01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:47.400 you till it's gone. 1439 01:07:47.679 --> 01:07:48.119 Yeah. 1440 01:07:48.239 --> 01:07:51.239 Do you do y'all have specific rules that you would 1441 01:07:51.239 --> 01:07:52.920 have or I don't want to sit next to this, 1442 01:07:53.159 --> 01:07:55.199 or I do want to sit next to this because 1443 01:07:55.239 --> 01:07:57.480 I have one I immediately thought of when you were 1444 01:07:57.480 --> 01:08:03.079 talking about airplanes. Please seat me as far as possible 1445 01:08:03.119 --> 01:08:05.920 away from anybody who thinks it's okay to take their 1446 01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:07.480 shoes off on the airplane. 1447 01:08:08.280 --> 01:08:12.039 That is Yeah, that's follicle beavior. 1448 01:08:12.880 --> 01:08:16.239 Okay, Okay, can I canny posted like anyone that has 1449 01:08:16.279 --> 01:08:17.520 their toes out on an airplane? 1450 01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:21.319 Yes, jail, Okay? Can I ask you a question just hypothetically? 1451 01:08:21.439 --> 01:08:24.079 Oh, no, I've seen. 1452 01:08:23.880 --> 01:08:29.840 The Let's say I was on a twelve hour flight. No, wait, 1453 01:08:30.359 --> 01:08:34.359 nobody's next to me in the immediate row. Can I 1454 01:08:34.439 --> 01:08:36.840 just take my my shoes off but have my socks 1455 01:08:36.880 --> 01:08:41.079 on twelve hour flight? It's cramped there's nobody in my aisle. 1456 01:08:42.800 --> 01:08:45.239 So here's here's my take. I think it's fine if 1457 01:08:45.399 --> 01:08:48.640 no one notices like I shouldn't. 1458 01:08:48.520 --> 01:08:50.760 Like I wear. I wear clean socks when I get 1459 01:08:50.760 --> 01:08:51.479 on the way. 1460 01:08:51.520 --> 01:08:53.840 Like if your feet don't smell and you can take 1461 01:08:53.880 --> 01:08:55.439 off your shoes and no one smells it and no 1462 01:08:55.439 --> 01:08:57.720 one's looking at your toes, I think that's fine. 1463 01:08:57.880 --> 01:08:58.840 I think if you're making a. 1464 01:08:58.760 --> 01:09:02.159 Big show and like, really the socks off in the air, 1465 01:09:02.359 --> 01:09:05.680 I'm pulling my Yeah, okay, but I don't. 1466 01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:07.640 I don't have an aversion to feat personally. 1467 01:09:07.680 --> 01:09:10.960 You said you wore you put on clean socks. Number one, 1468 01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:15.520 I hope. So number two, that's they're they're no longer 1469 01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:17.319 clean because okay. 1470 01:09:17.119 --> 01:09:19.600 But I've only been wearing it. Yeah, but they've only 1471 01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:21.720 been on my feet for like two hours at this point, 1472 01:09:21.800 --> 01:09:24.359 usually because I usually put fresh socks on as soon 1473 01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:27.000 as I right before I leave for the airport, so 1474 01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:30.159 a lot because I hate wearing socks, and so they 1475 01:09:30.199 --> 01:09:32.000 are not on my feet until like I'm about to 1476 01:09:32.039 --> 01:09:34.960 walk out the door. I to be clear, I've only 1477 01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:36.880 done this one time on a plane, and it was 1478 01:09:37.000 --> 01:09:37.840 this very specific. 1479 01:09:37.920 --> 01:09:40.439 It was a twelve hour flight and yeah it was going. 1480 01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:43.079 Yes, it was like it was. 1481 01:09:43.600 --> 01:09:45.680 I don't see it, then I don't have an issue 1482 01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:48.760 with it. If I notice it, if I am accomplice 1483 01:09:48.800 --> 01:09:50.720 to it, then I'm going to have a problem with it. 1484 01:09:50.760 --> 01:09:54.000 So maybe that's my addendum as that is the sea 1485 01:09:54.079 --> 01:09:57.520 taking character is don't let me see the grippers. Don't 1486 01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:00.399 don't let me turn my eyes and see it. 1487 01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:02.479 The one thing I don't want to be sat next 1488 01:10:02.520 --> 01:10:08.680 to on a plane is there are several a talker 1489 01:10:09.399 --> 01:10:17.880 who doesn't get the clue and I barely reciprocate. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 1490 01:10:20.560 --> 01:10:24.119 I think the big thing is I don't want a 1491 01:10:24.119 --> 01:10:29.880 man spreader. I am very much aware of the space 1492 01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:32.920 that I take up on a plane as a bigger guy, 1493 01:10:33.039 --> 01:10:36.840 and I go out of my way to make sure 1494 01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:43.279 everyone is as comfortable as possible. But the people, the 1495 01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:48.960 little the little men who are like half my size 1496 01:10:49.319 --> 01:10:54.359 and spreading alley, ramming their knees into my knees. I'm like, 1497 01:10:55.239 --> 01:10:56.920 you don't want to try to box me out, because 1498 01:10:56.920 --> 01:10:59.159 if we're playing that game, it's PvP. At that point, 1499 01:10:59.319 --> 01:11:02.399 it's yeah, yea, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. If we're playing 1500 01:11:02.399 --> 01:11:03.880 that game, you're gonna lose buddy. 1501 01:11:04.119 --> 01:11:08.960 Yeah, it's also like, don't sit if you're gonna it's 1502 01:11:08.960 --> 01:11:09.239 the words. 1503 01:11:09.279 --> 01:11:11.560 When you're in the middle and both other people have 1504 01:11:11.600 --> 01:11:14.119 taken the arm rests, it's like, dude. 1505 01:11:14.079 --> 01:11:16.920 Yeah, I think friend of the show not an armrest person, 1506 01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:17.760 So I don't really mind that. 1507 01:11:18.760 --> 01:11:20.720 Yeah, I kind of like, do one of these things. 1508 01:11:20.800 --> 01:11:22.560 I do I do an arm cross or kind of 1509 01:11:22.840 --> 01:11:27.319 arms out in front. Yeah, yeah, yeah, usual. 1510 01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:28.600 Who's the front of the show. 1511 01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:31.359 You're gonna call alex uh Sean Thomas. He had a 1512 01:11:31.359 --> 01:11:35.279 great point on social media recently. If you're a middle 1513 01:11:35.359 --> 01:11:38.680 row person, then you should be able to get at 1514 01:11:38.720 --> 01:11:39.560 least one arm rest. 1515 01:11:40.199 --> 01:11:41.399 That's what I think. 1516 01:11:41.880 --> 01:11:43.960 I think the window person gets the window, the isle 1517 01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:46.640 person gets the aisle, and then the middle person gets 1518 01:11:46.640 --> 01:11:49.079 those arms. That's what I think is a fair trade. 1519 01:11:49.119 --> 01:11:52.079 I'm a window person, and I if I have the window, 1520 01:11:52.319 --> 01:11:55.079 I'm all up against that window to the point that 1521 01:11:55.159 --> 01:11:57.760 I feel like I would be in severe danger if 1522 01:11:57.920 --> 01:12:00.840 that window even slightly moved. But I'm just like in 1523 01:12:01.359 --> 01:12:03.359 if I can get in the alcove like that and 1524 01:12:03.359 --> 01:12:06.039 get a nice little headrest going there, because I don't 1525 01:12:06.119 --> 01:12:09.399 I don't put my seat back. I feel very self conscious. 1526 01:12:09.439 --> 01:12:10.199 That would be. 1527 01:12:10.319 --> 01:12:13.920 That's my sorry almost I almost swore I got actually 1528 01:12:13.920 --> 01:12:17.319 two heated there, I think. So my thing is I 1529 01:12:17.359 --> 01:12:20.000 need leg room. Most planes are just literally not big 1530 01:12:20.119 --> 01:12:21.880 enough for me, so I kind of I have to say. 1531 01:12:22.880 --> 01:12:24.720 The last flight I got off of like a week ago, 1532 01:12:25.119 --> 01:12:28.319 I left the plane with like like indentations all along 1533 01:12:28.359 --> 01:12:31.920 my legs from how shoved up they were against everything. 1534 01:12:32.039 --> 01:12:36.039 Yeah, mine's like the just the forward my my thigh bone. 1535 01:12:36.159 --> 01:12:39.039 The length from the back of my seat back to 1536 01:12:39.199 --> 01:12:40.840 the back of the seat in front of me is 1537 01:12:40.920 --> 01:12:43.479 the length of my thigh bone on an average So 1538 01:12:43.560 --> 01:12:45.079 I can, yeah, I can fit them in there, and 1539 01:12:45.079 --> 01:12:46.880 then I cannot move And if you try to bend 1540 01:12:46.920 --> 01:12:49.439 it back, that like fills me with a primal rage 1541 01:12:49.840 --> 01:12:52.319 that I cannot express. 1542 01:12:52.760 --> 01:12:55.720 But shoot, I was gonna say something. 1543 01:12:55.600 --> 01:13:00.199 Else that really just took over your It really just 1544 01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:01.279 you saw red. 1545 01:13:01.039 --> 01:13:03.439 For a moment I had, I had. 1546 01:13:03.279 --> 01:13:05.840 Like a my magazine was full of a bunch of 1547 01:13:05.880 --> 01:13:07.479 things to say, and then all of a sudden I 1548 01:13:07.479 --> 01:13:09.039 had to unload all my thoughts on this. 1549 01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:13.199 pH Yeah you rerated a systems yeah to fire. 1550 01:13:13.399 --> 01:13:17.279 I will think it was just the the aisle thing 1551 01:13:17.359 --> 01:13:18.840 and then I think if I was in a car, 1552 01:13:19.039 --> 01:13:21.479 it's a it's another thing of like I can't sit 1553 01:13:21.720 --> 01:13:26.279 behind the driver, like I need someone that can scoot 1554 01:13:26.560 --> 01:13:28.039 forward if they need to. 1555 01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:32.199 I don't have that problem as much. I would also 1556 01:13:33.159 --> 01:13:37.039 see red when it's somebody watching videos on a phone 1557 01:13:37.159 --> 01:13:39.640 or a tablet and they don't have headphones. 1558 01:13:39.159 --> 01:13:43.199 In raw sound, throw them off the plane. 1559 01:13:43.560 --> 01:13:43.800 Yeah. 1560 01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:48.239 I don't know when midair midair jeopardize all of us. 1561 01:13:49.159 --> 01:13:52.000 I don't know when society decided that it was suddenly 1562 01:13:52.159 --> 01:13:55.560 chilled to start doing that. But if you don't show 1563 01:13:55.640 --> 01:13:58.000 up with headphones for your flight, you don't get You 1564 01:13:58.159 --> 01:14:05.399 just d find in herself. Don't share that with the world. 1565 01:14:05.560 --> 01:14:08.159 All right, we don't want to hear your bad tiktoks. 1566 01:14:08.439 --> 01:14:11.079 They're bad tiktoks. They're never good tiktoks. 1567 01:14:11.720 --> 01:14:14.680 I watch, Okay, all right, this is getting into this 1568 01:14:14.840 --> 01:14:18.680 is the good, the good stuff. I on my recent trip, 1569 01:14:18.840 --> 01:14:20.479 which was a nightmare trip. It's the worst trip I 1570 01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:23.520 ever went on because I had to travel with Matt Miller, 1571 01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:28.520 you know, and you know he's just such a hard, 1572 01:14:28.680 --> 01:14:32.239 hard guy to get along with. He was putting, he 1573 01:14:32.399 --> 01:14:35.680 was taking his shoes off. Yeah, so have you seen 1574 01:14:35.720 --> 01:14:39.000 the movie Noor. I've heard, Oh my god, I. 1575 01:14:40.720 --> 01:14:43.199 I have several times on a plane been like wow, 1576 01:14:43.199 --> 01:14:44.720 I kind of watched the movie and Nora, but I 1577 01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:46.079 couldn't do that on a plane. 1578 01:14:46.359 --> 01:14:50.640 I watched. I watched the movie, and a row over 1579 01:14:50.760 --> 01:14:54.680 from me was like a group, a group with like children, 1580 01:14:56.039 --> 01:14:59.239 and but like I during the really risque scenes, like 1581 01:14:59.359 --> 01:15:03.680 I put one hand up to the monitor and like covered. No, No, 1582 01:15:04.079 --> 01:15:05.000 I mean they are. 1583 01:15:05.359 --> 01:15:09.079 That's theirs, that's that's their thing. Yeah, I don't know. 1584 01:15:09.319 --> 01:15:11.640 I think they shouldn't put on plane. 1585 01:15:11.760 --> 01:15:14.720 Yes, I mean I don't watched it in public. It 1586 01:15:14.840 --> 01:15:18.760 shouldn't be on a plane, that's yeah. And let's let's listen. 1587 01:15:18.840 --> 01:15:20.520 I had the seat open next to me, so I 1588 01:15:20.680 --> 01:15:22.479 moved over as far as I cut away from them 1589 01:15:22.560 --> 01:15:26.560 to watch it. And then and then in the particularly 1590 01:15:26.880 --> 01:15:29.760 gruesome scenes, there's not a gruesome. 1591 01:15:29.800 --> 01:15:31.159 It's the nudity. 1592 01:15:31.640 --> 01:15:41.399 They're going hand, they're going hand. Yeah, they are. The activities, yes, 1593 01:15:42.359 --> 01:15:44.920 they are. The desires are on full display of flesh. 1594 01:15:46.359 --> 01:15:50.399 I felt like one hand up. I felt like one 1595 01:15:50.439 --> 01:15:50.840 hand up. 1596 01:15:51.359 --> 01:15:52.680 And then you said the word flesh. 1597 01:15:52.760 --> 01:15:57.399 Afterwards, you could have said something so much more disgusting, 1598 01:15:57.760 --> 01:15:59.920 like like just on a base level, and it would 1599 01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:03.560 been less worse than that was. 1600 01:16:03.600 --> 01:16:05.239 Like, yeah, so the movie I halfway through and then 1601 01:16:05.279 --> 01:16:07.640 I was like, I gotta take my socks off for this. 1602 01:16:10.840 --> 01:16:14.359 The worst possible, Oh my god. 1603 01:16:14.680 --> 01:16:19.199 Yeah. But you know, I usually like try to be 1604 01:16:19.279 --> 01:16:22.159 sensitive about who's around me, but as of late, I'm like, 1605 01:16:22.479 --> 01:16:25.640 you don't gotta look. I'm gonna watch my show and 1606 01:16:25.720 --> 01:16:27.720 if somebody's getting dogged, then. 1607 01:16:29.079 --> 01:16:32.119 So be it. Somebody gave me a weird look. Okay, 1608 01:16:32.159 --> 01:16:34.199 this is maybe like the one weird thing that I 1609 01:16:34.359 --> 01:16:38.920 do when I travel is I won't sometimes depends on it. 1610 01:16:39.079 --> 01:16:41.439 I won't watch anything on my seat back. But if 1611 01:16:41.439 --> 01:16:43.239 I'm just listening, because usually I listen to music, I 1612 01:16:43.359 --> 01:16:45.720 try to sleep, and if I can't sleep, I don't 1613 01:16:45.720 --> 01:16:47.439 really want to go through the whole thing of finding 1614 01:16:47.680 --> 01:16:51.159 something and putting headphones in because it's always like an 1615 01:16:51.239 --> 01:16:53.560 OX headphone jack and I have Bluetooth stuff with me, 1616 01:16:54.640 --> 01:16:56.600 so I'll listen to my music. But sometimes I'll just 1617 01:16:56.640 --> 01:16:59.439 glance over and watch somebody else's TV screen and I 1618 01:16:59.520 --> 01:17:02.000 can't hear what's happening, but I just kind of ingest 1619 01:17:02.079 --> 01:17:04.359 the movie as it is and so that's how I 1620 01:17:04.399 --> 01:17:07.760 saw How to Train Your Dragon like twice because people 1621 01:17:07.800 --> 01:17:10.359 were just watching it on the plane. Someone gave him 1622 01:17:10.359 --> 01:17:13.479 a weird look for doing that, like they like turned around. 1623 01:17:13.439 --> 01:17:14.560 Like are you looking at me? 1624 01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:19.920 And I was like, no, I'm but like explaining it 1625 01:17:20.079 --> 01:17:22.399 is kind of hard. Like I was watching the screen, 1626 01:17:22.920 --> 01:17:24.479 like if. 1627 01:17:24.359 --> 01:17:26.600 There is somebody in front of me playing a movie 1628 01:17:26.680 --> 01:17:29.840 and there are subtitles on. There have been times, multiple 1629 01:17:29.840 --> 01:17:34.319 occasions I've watched entire movies. Yes, just reading subtitles of 1630 01:17:34.439 --> 01:17:36.479 the on the screen in front of me. Yeah, And 1631 01:17:36.520 --> 01:17:38.560 I'm like, huh, I, I'm glad I didn't see that 1632 01:17:38.640 --> 01:17:41.039 because I wouldn't have want to watch that. But I'm 1633 01:17:41.159 --> 01:17:43.920 just like kind of read my way through this movie. 1634 01:17:44.279 --> 01:17:46.119 I saw half of like a really bad horror movie 1635 01:17:46.199 --> 01:17:47.880 that way. I think it was they were stuck on 1636 01:17:47.960 --> 01:17:50.520 top of a tower or something and they were gonna 1637 01:17:50.680 --> 01:17:52.600 fall off or I don't remember what it was, but 1638 01:17:52.680 --> 01:17:56.279 it was bad. Oh barbarian No, no, no, No, that's 1639 01:17:56.359 --> 01:17:57.960 that's a basement, isn't it. That's a basement. 1640 01:17:58.000 --> 01:17:59.520 Well there's a water tower in it too. 1641 01:18:00.359 --> 01:18:00.399 No. 1642 01:18:00.600 --> 01:18:02.920 This The whole thing is like they climb up a 1643 01:18:03.079 --> 01:18:06.119 tower and then the ladder breaks and then they're stuck 1644 01:18:06.239 --> 01:18:08.399 up there. I don't know that that was the farthest 1645 01:18:08.479 --> 01:18:08.920 I got. 1646 01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:11.239 With it, you know, you know, it's really funny. Another anecdote. 1647 01:18:11.239 --> 01:18:13.840 I'm sorry we've gone so we've gone so far off 1648 01:18:13.880 --> 01:18:16.920 the tracks. It's okay, though, Miller on that trip I 1649 01:18:17.000 --> 01:18:20.479 sat behind him. I forgot this. On our trip back home. 1650 01:18:20.560 --> 01:18:23.800 One of our trips back home, he put on a Nora, 1651 01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:27.159 but I was behind him and I had already watched 1652 01:18:27.199 --> 01:18:29.800 a Nora. You were like yeah, and I was like, 1653 01:18:30.600 --> 01:18:32.800 I was like, I want to see how he reacts 1654 01:18:33.479 --> 01:18:35.279 when like the scenes come up, because he's got a 1655 01:18:35.319 --> 01:18:37.920 person next to him, and he's like if you don't 1656 01:18:37.920 --> 01:18:41.640 know Miller, he's like very very polite person and like 1657 01:18:41.880 --> 01:18:42.520 very like Miller. 1658 01:18:42.560 --> 01:18:44.920 I feel like was born a boss of someone. 1659 01:18:45.279 --> 01:18:48.920 Yeah, it feels like he's just the boss baby. Yeah, 1660 01:18:50.119 --> 01:18:53.159 but like he's very considered of other people. And I 1661 01:18:53.319 --> 01:18:55.039 was I was like taking bets in turn. I was like, 1662 01:18:55.159 --> 01:18:56.680 is Miller going to turn this thing off? Is he 1663 01:18:56.760 --> 01:18:59.760 going to keep going? What's he doing? And to his credit, 1664 01:19:00.039 --> 01:19:05.119 he just had some like very uncomfortable shifts, like somebody's 1665 01:19:05.159 --> 01:19:07.720 getting hammed on in the scene and he's like, time 1666 01:19:07.800 --> 01:19:09.840 to take my water out and drink some water and 1667 01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:12.279 like like kind of block part of this screen with 1668 01:19:12.359 --> 01:19:15.119 the water bottle and like not really, and I got off. 1669 01:19:15.159 --> 01:19:17.039 I was like, what do you think about a Nora? 1670 01:19:17.159 --> 01:19:21.239 And he was like well, I was like, yeah, good 1671 01:19:21.319 --> 01:19:21.920 movie though, Right. 1672 01:19:22.720 --> 01:19:25.680 So I don't like these new verbs you keep creating. 1673 01:19:26.159 --> 01:19:26.840 Getting hammed on? 1674 01:19:27.800 --> 01:19:28.359 Is that a thing? 1675 01:19:28.560 --> 01:19:30.840 Eric, I'm trying to keep it. I'm trying to keep 1676 01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:34.159 it pseudo family friendly. Yeah, yeah, no one, No one. 1677 01:19:34.079 --> 01:19:37.199 Can intuit your meaning. Yeah, the advertisers are gonna love 1678 01:19:37.279 --> 01:19:38.079 getting handed on. 1679 01:19:40.680 --> 01:19:44.000 Is what it is. That's part of life, part of life. 1680 01:19:44.039 --> 01:19:46.079 These are all real life situations we find out just 1681 01:19:46.560 --> 01:19:48.399 you're just you just can't. 1682 01:19:48.199 --> 01:19:49.159 Eat ham anymore. 1683 01:19:49.239 --> 01:19:51.960 I guess there are other verbs I could use, but 1684 01:19:52.000 --> 01:19:54.119 they're very explicit, so I'm not gonna say them. 1685 01:19:55.680 --> 01:19:58.359 You could just say during the love scenes or something like. 1686 01:19:58.399 --> 01:20:01.359 That, during the love scene, during the more passionate moments 1687 01:20:01.439 --> 01:20:05.399 of the movie. Yeah, okay, I have fine, getting a 1688 01:20:05.399 --> 01:20:09.920 little mechanical with it over here. We need shirts now, 1689 01:20:10.399 --> 01:20:13.199 new merch ideas say what getting hand hand? 1690 01:20:16.600 --> 01:20:27.560 I got hand on? Anyways? Video games, let's round the 1691 01:20:27.600 --> 01:20:32.039 show out with some games come highlight. I'm pulling up. 1692 01:20:32.079 --> 01:20:36.439 I'm pulling up. Uh, we were about to we were 1693 01:20:36.439 --> 01:20:39.640 about to crash into the ocean, but pulled us right up. 1694 01:20:39.720 --> 01:20:42.600 We're all good games Come highlights. Did you guys have 1695 01:20:42.640 --> 01:20:45.239 anything big that that really hit for you? I feel 1696 01:20:45.279 --> 01:20:48.279 like it was kind of a mid show a little bit. 1697 01:20:48.600 --> 01:20:50.960 There are some surrounding announcements that got me really excited. 1698 01:20:51.000 --> 01:20:54.880 We saw a bigger look at Word of Warcraft Midnight, 1699 01:20:55.039 --> 01:20:59.079 the upcoming expansion. For a wow, they showed off the 1700 01:20:59.239 --> 01:21:02.039 new Ally race that is going to be in the 1701 01:21:02.079 --> 01:21:04.239 game that you can play as, and it's the first 1702 01:21:04.319 --> 01:21:07.600 Allied race in a long time, pretty much since Battle 1703 01:21:07.600 --> 01:21:12.279 for Azaroth in twenty eighteen, where I'm like, oh, that's 1704 01:21:12.399 --> 01:21:14.359 like a cool Allied race. The others have kind of 1705 01:21:14.399 --> 01:21:16.880 been mid for me. The new Allied race. 1706 01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:17.000 Are the. 1707 01:21:19.079 --> 01:21:21.800 Hara let me let me pull it up. The hair 1708 01:21:21.840 --> 01:21:25.439 a near. I'm gonna double check real quick because it's 1709 01:21:25.439 --> 01:21:30.680 a funky, funky pronunciation, but yeah, they're like these these 1710 01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:34.079 creatures that they were introduced in the War Within, which 1711 01:21:34.159 --> 01:21:37.680 was the last expansion, And yeah the hair in near 1712 01:21:37.720 --> 01:21:41.640 I was correct. And they are a group of secluded 1713 01:21:41.720 --> 01:21:46.319 Hunters who you encounter in this upcoming expansion and the 1714 01:21:46.399 --> 01:21:51.640 place that they're from. They don't actually build their architecture, 1715 01:21:51.720 --> 01:21:54.399 they grow everything, and so like they've got these like 1716 01:21:54.560 --> 01:22:01.239 really cool fungal towers and Moss Bridge and like these 1717 01:22:01.319 --> 01:22:03.880 Really it sounds like a really cool idea for a 1718 01:22:05.000 --> 01:22:08.760 little society of new people and wow, so I'm excited 1719 01:22:08.800 --> 01:22:10.920 to kind of get that going. They showed off more 1720 01:22:10.960 --> 01:22:14.600 player housing and the new zones I feel like the 1721 01:22:14.880 --> 01:22:18.880 new there's three new raids dropping at launch, I think, 1722 01:22:19.279 --> 01:22:22.279 and and eight new dungeons. It it seems like a 1723 01:22:22.319 --> 01:22:27.119 pretty beefy update that'll be coming sometime in twenty twenty six. 1724 01:22:27.239 --> 01:22:35.560 So that's probably probably my personal highlight. What about you, Charles, I've. 1725 01:22:35.479 --> 01:22:39.960 Got the full trilogy here. Oh my god, Lego Batman one, 1726 01:22:40.960 --> 01:22:45.600 Lego Batman two, DC Superheroes, and Lego Batman three. Beyond Gotham. 1727 01:22:46.359 --> 01:22:49.560 I'm I'm the game. I'm the Lego game Informer guy. 1728 01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:52.439 I don't know if you've ever read my artist profile 1729 01:22:52.960 --> 01:22:56.359 my author profile on gaminformer dot com, but it is 1730 01:22:56.600 --> 01:22:59.760 ninety percent just me talking about Lego Star Wars. 1731 01:22:59.840 --> 01:23:01.560 I want to read it right now for the audience. 1732 01:23:01.640 --> 01:23:02.239 Yeah, please do. 1733 01:23:02.720 --> 01:23:05.319 I'm pulling up your staff gamefor dot com slash Staff. 1734 01:23:05.800 --> 01:23:08.520 Do you ever need to go and find people? Ever 1735 01:23:08.600 --> 01:23:11.239 since receiving Lego Star Wars as a Christmas present in 1736 01:23:11.359 --> 01:23:14.199 two thousand and five, Charles has been an avid gamer. 1737 01:23:14.720 --> 01:23:16.439 Since then, He's had the chance to play lots of 1738 01:23:16.520 --> 01:23:20.079 other games like Lego Star Wars two, Lego Star Wars 1739 01:23:20.159 --> 01:23:23.079 The Complete Saga, Lego Star Wars three, The Clone Wars, 1740 01:23:23.359 --> 01:23:26.800 and even Lego Star Wars The Skywalker Saga he loves. 1741 01:23:27.199 --> 01:23:31.359 He also loves RPG's rhythm games and then with a 1742 01:23:31.399 --> 01:23:34.319 great story. We're almost done now. Charles is stilled to 1743 01:23:34.359 --> 01:23:36.199 be part of the game from her team, where he 1744 01:23:36.279 --> 01:23:41.279 writes podcasts and edits video. He currently lives in Ohio. 1745 01:23:41.520 --> 01:23:44.880 While doxing yourself, Charles with his partner, their dog, and 1746 01:23:44.920 --> 01:23:48.880 their two cats. GOODBYO, thank you, thank you. 1747 01:23:49.720 --> 01:23:52.319 Anyways, Lego Star Wars, Yeah, it was my first video game. 1748 01:23:52.479 --> 01:23:57.359 I really like all the Lego games and Lego Batman. 1749 01:23:57.920 --> 01:24:01.159 I had it on the DS hmmm, and there was 1750 01:24:01.239 --> 01:24:03.560 like a console version and I didn't have I don't 1751 01:24:03.560 --> 01:24:05.359 think it was on the Wii, but it was on 1752 01:24:05.399 --> 01:24:07.319 like PlayStation two and I have a PlayStation two, and 1753 01:24:07.359 --> 01:24:08.920 I would go to my friends. I had Lego Batman 1754 01:24:08.960 --> 01:24:10.119 for the PlayStation two, and I'm. 1755 01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:12.319 Like, you gotta let me in. This seems like the 1756 01:24:12.479 --> 01:24:14.000 coolest thing in the whole world. 1757 01:24:14.319 --> 01:24:17.079 For some reason, I thought it was a For some reason, 1758 01:24:17.079 --> 01:24:19.520 I thought it was so cool that in the console 1759 01:24:19.640 --> 01:24:23.800 versions of the games you could tilt the stick and 1760 01:24:24.039 --> 01:24:26.960 walk before you ran, because I played Lego Star Wars 1761 01:24:27.039 --> 01:24:29.000 on PC and I only had the arrow key and 1762 01:24:29.079 --> 01:24:30.880 you could only run, and I was like, one day, 1763 01:24:30.960 --> 01:24:35.079 I'll unlock the walking. Anyways, just a lot of nostalgia 1764 01:24:35.159 --> 01:24:39.399 for me. I really liked the Skywalker saga and they 1765 01:24:39.520 --> 01:24:42.239 kind of like Lego was like they were churning them 1766 01:24:42.279 --> 01:24:44.680 out for a few years there, like it was like 1767 01:24:44.840 --> 01:24:46.520 one a year for a while, and then they started 1768 01:24:46.560 --> 01:24:48.800 really ramping it up. And then there was an era 1769 01:24:48.960 --> 01:24:52.119 where I was like way too old to be playing them, 1770 01:24:52.159 --> 01:24:54.399 and I fell off for I don't know, I was 1771 01:24:54.439 --> 01:24:56.199 a senior in high school or whatever. But they had 1772 01:24:56.319 --> 01:25:00.439 like Lego Incredibles and like, uh, I don't know, just 1773 01:25:00.479 --> 01:25:01.880 a bunch of a bunch of Lego games that I. 1774 01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:03.520 That weren't really on my radar at all. 1775 01:25:04.039 --> 01:25:07.199 The last one I played was Lego Marvel Superheroes. 1776 01:25:09.399 --> 01:25:11.399 Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, I love that one. 1777 01:25:11.439 --> 01:25:16.720 Also, the one I really connected with as a kid, 1778 01:25:16.800 --> 01:25:18.039 it was the original Lego Star Wars. But then my 1779 01:25:18.079 --> 01:25:21.199 brother and I played so much Lego Batman two, and 1780 01:25:21.359 --> 01:25:24.680 not for like any particular reason. We would just both 1781 01:25:24.760 --> 01:25:27.560 spawn in. It had an open world Gotham City, and 1782 01:25:27.640 --> 01:25:30.399 we would just like make up games to play in 1783 01:25:30.680 --> 01:25:33.600 open world Gotham City, Like we would play tag and 1784 01:25:33.880 --> 01:25:36.800 hide and Seek. And we had one game where I 1785 01:25:36.800 --> 01:25:38.319 would play as the Flash and he would play as 1786 01:25:38.399 --> 01:25:42.039 Mister Freeze and or no, he plays Captain Cold or 1787 01:25:42.920 --> 01:25:44.960 I guess he played Miss Freeze, whatever case is. He 1788 01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:47.239 would try to freeze me when I would run super fast, 1789 01:25:47.279 --> 01:25:48.840 and for some reason we thought that was like peak 1790 01:25:48.880 --> 01:25:49.399 game design. 1791 01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:50.439 Was this game that the two of us. 1792 01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:53.159 This is a game that I just like have have 1793 01:25:53.359 --> 01:25:57.039 an unnecessary nostalgia for because of the situations around the 1794 01:25:57.079 --> 01:26:00.399 game I created with my brother, But. 1795 01:26:00.439 --> 01:26:01.640 There was a big gap. 1796 01:26:01.760 --> 01:26:04.000 And then they did the Skywickersaga, which was like really 1797 01:26:04.079 --> 01:26:08.079 reinvented the formula and made it like palatable to play 1798 01:26:08.199 --> 01:26:12.399 as an adult. And uh, there's like character classes and 1799 01:26:12.600 --> 01:26:14.399 I feel like there's like you can level up. 1800 01:26:14.319 --> 01:26:14.880 In that game. 1801 01:26:15.800 --> 01:26:16.159 I don't know. 1802 01:26:16.279 --> 01:26:18.039 It was just like way way more in depth than 1803 01:26:18.079 --> 01:26:20.279 the series it'd ever been. And now this feels like 1804 01:26:20.359 --> 01:26:22.960 kind of what they're doing with Lego Batman, and it's 1805 01:26:23.199 --> 01:26:23.800 like a Batman. 1806 01:26:24.199 --> 01:26:25.920 I would play the hell out of a Lego Batman 1807 01:26:26.000 --> 01:26:29.439 right about now. That feels like, yeah, yeah, I played 1808 01:26:29.560 --> 01:26:32.960 Lego Horizon Adventures and I didn't think the writing was 1809 01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:35.319 good and it was kind of a little insufferable for me. 1810 01:26:35.880 --> 01:26:36.920 And it's a different studio. 1811 01:26:37.000 --> 01:26:40.680 Also, like like Post Post like twenty twenty or so, 1812 01:26:41.399 --> 01:26:43.359 there's been a lot of other studios that are getting 1813 01:26:43.439 --> 01:26:45.720 the Lego license to do other things, cause I think 1814 01:26:45.760 --> 01:26:47.520 TT Games. I don't know if they had like an 1815 01:26:47.560 --> 01:26:50.239 exclusive license for a while or what the deal was, 1816 01:26:50.359 --> 01:26:53.439 but you'll like Lego Horizon was not TT Games. 1817 01:26:55.039 --> 01:26:56.720 What's that other one? Builders? 1818 01:26:57.159 --> 01:26:58.760 Am I making that up Build Journey? 1819 01:26:59.079 --> 01:26:59.319 Yeah? 1820 01:26:59.600 --> 01:27:04.600 Yeah, yeah, that's not teach Those are really good, are awesome, 1821 01:27:05.560 --> 01:27:09.119 just no shade to them, just different different series. 1822 01:27:09.399 --> 01:27:09.640 Sure. 1823 01:27:09.760 --> 01:27:14.359 Yeah, And so this is like they did Skyricrosaga kind 1824 01:27:14.399 --> 01:27:15.600 of off the radar for a bit. 1825 01:27:15.680 --> 01:27:17.239 Now they're coming back. They're doing Lego Batman. 1826 01:27:17.479 --> 01:27:20.640 It's got scenes from like the movies and stuff. They 1827 01:27:20.680 --> 01:27:23.840 always did their own Lego Batman stories, and now it's 1828 01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:26.279 like looks like we're playing stuff that's in the Dark 1829 01:27:26.399 --> 01:27:29.800 Night trilogy. In the Batman twenty twenty two, they have 1830 01:27:30.079 --> 01:27:35.199 the explosive gel from the Arkham games. And I don't 1831 01:27:35.239 --> 01:27:37.720 know like what playable characters there are, because it used 1832 01:27:37.760 --> 01:27:39.079 to be a thing in the Lego games where it's 1833 01:27:39.119 --> 01:27:42.680 like we have one hundred and fifty Batman characters and 1834 01:27:42.800 --> 01:27:44.840 it goes from Batman and Robin and Robin in a 1835 01:27:44.880 --> 01:27:47.279 scuba suit and Robin in a different scuba suit, Nightwing 1836 01:27:47.359 --> 01:27:49.560 and night Wings with no hair, and then it's also 1837 01:27:49.680 --> 01:27:52.279 like Condiment King or whatever, like they really they really 1838 01:27:52.359 --> 01:27:54.000 milk it. And this one, as far as I know, 1839 01:27:54.079 --> 01:27:56.520 there's like five playable characters that they've announced so far, 1840 01:27:56.640 --> 01:27:59.439 and I'm curious if it's gonna like expand or if 1841 01:27:59.439 --> 01:28:01.159 they're gonna keep it like more focused. 1842 01:28:01.279 --> 01:28:05.279 But I'm just this is the most most nostalgic type 1843 01:28:05.319 --> 01:28:07.159 of game that could exist for me, and I'm just 1844 01:28:07.239 --> 01:28:08.159 really excited to see. 1845 01:28:08.239 --> 01:28:11.479 Yeah, and to be clear, it's called Lego Batman Legacy 1846 01:28:11.560 --> 01:28:16.520 of the Dark Knight, yes, which I think including the 1847 01:28:16.640 --> 01:28:19.119 Dark Knight, and I know it includes like some scenes 1848 01:28:20.079 --> 01:28:21.920 from those moves the Nolan. 1849 01:28:21.760 --> 01:28:24.880 Verse, it's kind of unclear what like how exactly they're in. 1850 01:28:25.359 --> 01:28:27.920 Yeah, there is some kind of incorporation though. 1851 01:28:29.800 --> 01:28:32.199 Open World Gotham again, which is exciting. 1852 01:28:32.479 --> 01:28:33.119 That is exciting. 1853 01:28:33.159 --> 01:28:35.159 And my got my brother to play Hide and Seek 1854 01:28:35.199 --> 01:28:35.359 with me. 1855 01:28:36.279 --> 01:28:39.840 Yeah, you can play mister College mister frees in the flash. 1856 01:28:40.199 --> 01:28:43.319 There we go, Eric, Any any highlights from you for 1857 01:28:43.399 --> 01:28:43.720 the show? 1858 01:28:44.680 --> 01:28:48.840 Two honorable mentions. First, I always love the Monster Hunter 1859 01:28:48.920 --> 01:28:52.000 crossovers with the Final Fantasy fourteen, especially what fourteen ends 1860 01:28:52.079 --> 01:28:54.760 up getting, so I'm very much looking forward to that content. 1861 01:28:55.079 --> 01:28:58.039 It looked like Zoshiva is going to be the the 1862 01:28:58.159 --> 01:29:01.399 Raid monster. I believe Ratholo was the previous one from 1863 01:29:01.640 --> 01:29:05.760 Monster Hunter World maybe World Ice Born, but you could 1864 01:29:05.760 --> 01:29:07.920 get a really cool amounts and do some really cool 1865 01:29:07.960 --> 01:29:10.680 fights that incorporate some cool mechanics. I've never played the 1866 01:29:10.800 --> 01:29:14.079 inverse of that where they put Final Fantasy monsters into 1867 01:29:14.279 --> 01:29:17.239 Monster Hunter, but I have like kind of an endgame 1868 01:29:17.319 --> 01:29:20.680 Monster Hunter Wild's character, and it looks like Omega is 1869 01:29:20.960 --> 01:29:24.079 the one that's going into Monster Hunter Wilds for those 1870 01:29:24.119 --> 01:29:26.319 who play Final Fancy fourteen at home, you know that 1871 01:29:26.439 --> 01:29:29.199 Omega is sick. It's cool as hell. 1872 01:29:29.680 --> 01:29:31.840 So for those what's omega? 1873 01:29:32.319 --> 01:29:35.359 Omega is like a super weapon. It's it's basically like 1874 01:29:35.479 --> 01:29:39.560 one of the most powerful weapons in all of Final Fantasy, 1875 01:29:39.720 --> 01:29:42.920 next to Alexander and things like that. The idea of 1876 01:29:43.600 --> 01:29:47.039 this is a construct meant to just be the ultimate 1877 01:29:47.119 --> 01:29:52.239 weapon and the metal gear, yeah, you know what, not 1878 01:29:52.399 --> 01:29:55.359 that far off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's pretty similar. 1879 01:29:55.479 --> 01:29:57.600 So I think that's pretty cool. And then Zoshiva was 1880 01:29:57.680 --> 01:30:01.600 the flagship monster for Monster Hunter, is the dragon that 1881 01:30:01.720 --> 01:30:04.039 has the big electric whip chains and stuff like that, 1882 01:30:04.199 --> 01:30:05.800 So I imagine that could do some cool stuff in 1883 01:30:05.840 --> 01:30:09.159 Final Fantacy fourteen, so I'm looking forward to checking that out. Also, 1884 01:30:09.239 --> 01:30:11.560 honorable mention to one that I know you also care 1885 01:30:11.600 --> 01:30:16.680 about Unbeatable Baby music is illegal. 1886 01:30:16.319 --> 01:30:17.720 You're going to do crime. 1887 01:30:18.079 --> 01:30:22.279 That's oh man. I cannot wait for that as a 1888 01:30:22.399 --> 01:30:24.439 November sixth release date, I believe. 1889 01:30:24.840 --> 01:30:26.960 Yeah. And also I just as a shout out to them, 1890 01:30:27.079 --> 01:30:31.840 like being one of the few game developers headquartered in Virginia, 1891 01:30:32.119 --> 01:30:35.880 I believe, which is a rarity in my home state. 1892 01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:39.000 So I've I feel like a cool sense of Pride 1893 01:30:39.199 --> 01:30:41.960 like I believe they're based out of Alexandria last time 1894 01:30:41.960 --> 01:30:45.960 I checked. But yeah, I'm excited for that game regardless 1895 01:30:46.279 --> 01:30:49.199 looks I think Kyle put in our slack today like 1896 01:30:49.960 --> 01:30:52.359 it's fully coolly vibes all over this thing. 1897 01:30:52.880 --> 01:30:58.079 That era for sure, adult swim type vibes. Some throwback 1898 01:30:59.119 --> 01:31:01.560 just everything about the music to the music sounds incredible. 1899 01:31:02.159 --> 01:31:06.560 Some really cool mechanics interacting with musical soundbeats and things 1900 01:31:06.640 --> 01:31:10.479 like that. For anybody who enjoys elite rhythm agents stuff 1901 01:31:10.560 --> 01:31:13.039 like that will probably find a lot to love here. 1902 01:31:14.039 --> 01:31:16.520 But I think my number one was a surprise I 1903 01:31:16.560 --> 01:31:18.720 didn't see coming but probably should have seen coming, which 1904 01:31:18.760 --> 01:31:22.640 is Donald War four. I like the Donald War series 1905 01:31:22.800 --> 01:31:26.319 quite a bit. I really loved the first game. Two 1906 01:31:26.560 --> 01:31:29.359 was kind of an eccentric oddity that I thought was 1907 01:31:29.439 --> 01:31:32.000 really neat and novel, and I wanted to see incorporated 1908 01:31:32.039 --> 01:31:34.000 more as they went forward. I didn't spend a lot 1909 01:31:34.000 --> 01:31:35.600 of time with Donald War three. I did play a 1910 01:31:35.640 --> 01:31:37.720 little bit, but I just I don't know, something didn't 1911 01:31:37.720 --> 01:31:40.199 click with me with it. But Donald War four, I 1912 01:31:40.279 --> 01:31:42.560 really loved Donald War four, or the idea of a 1913 01:31:42.640 --> 01:31:45.119 new Dono War. I should say, and that's within the 1914 01:31:45.159 --> 01:31:49.720 Warhammer University. Yes, as within Warhammer forty K. So far 1915 01:31:49.800 --> 01:31:53.359 they have shown at least one faction of space Marines, which, 1916 01:31:53.600 --> 01:31:55.319 of course you're always going to have them in there 1917 01:31:55.920 --> 01:31:58.840 play as orcs. Yes, so Ork. We have seen the 1918 01:31:58.960 --> 01:32:03.199 Orc Forces there though the log will ride uh. And 1919 01:32:03.279 --> 01:32:07.119 then we have also seen Necrons and my two favorite 1920 01:32:07.199 --> 01:32:10.680 fact my three favorite factions and Morehammer forty k are. 1921 01:32:11.279 --> 01:32:14.279 I love the Tao because they look really cool. I 1922 01:32:14.359 --> 01:32:17.279 love the Tyrannid because I always love a good alien 1923 01:32:17.359 --> 01:32:20.760 hive mind a lah, the Zerg from StarCraft, and the 1924 01:32:20.880 --> 01:32:24.239 Necron because space necromancers are cool. That's that's just a 1925 01:32:24.319 --> 01:32:29.520 cool design, interesting fun So the Necron are They look 1926 01:32:29.600 --> 01:32:32.279 like they're a big part of this specific Donald war 1927 01:32:32.399 --> 01:32:34.640 Entry very excited that they're going to be in there 1928 01:32:34.680 --> 01:32:37.079 from the jump, it seems, because that's a great faction 1929 01:32:37.399 --> 01:32:39.680 just have in there and do cool, interesting things with. 1930 01:32:40.319 --> 01:32:42.760 But it's also a real time strategy game. There are 1931 01:32:42.800 --> 01:32:44.840 a lot of people trying to make new real time 1932 01:32:44.880 --> 01:32:51.319 strategy games and it hasn't bad. Yeah, and I love StarCraft, 1933 01:32:51.399 --> 01:32:55.520 I love Warcraft, I love Commanding Conquers, I love Oh 1934 01:32:55.640 --> 01:32:57.439 my god, I feel really bad for forgetting the name 1935 01:32:57.479 --> 01:32:59.560 of it. Not Total War, but it's something else. Alert 1936 01:33:00.159 --> 01:33:04.039 no no Agian Mythology, Age of Mythology, also very good. 1937 01:33:04.239 --> 01:33:07.319 It's the one that is is it Planetary Annihilation where 1938 01:33:07.399 --> 01:33:09.760 you have the giant walking little bot and you build 1939 01:33:09.800 --> 01:33:12.640 bases around it and stuff like that. That one's an 1940 01:33:12.680 --> 01:33:16.359 old one, but a good one. I've loved real time 1941 01:33:16.399 --> 01:33:18.560 strategy games for as long as I've been playing games, 1942 01:33:18.760 --> 01:33:20.680 and it bums me out that we haven't had a 1943 01:33:20.880 --> 01:33:23.720 good one to really grasp onto in a while. 1944 01:33:25.000 --> 01:33:25.520 I don't know. 1945 01:33:26.359 --> 01:33:28.039 I like that this one seems to just be going 1946 01:33:28.159 --> 01:33:32.079 for You're gonna do cool stuff, You're gonna smash units together, 1947 01:33:32.159 --> 01:33:35.840 You're gonna have a good time. Because competitive going for 1948 01:33:35.920 --> 01:33:39.000 the esports scene, I think you can lose your way there. 1949 01:33:39.199 --> 01:33:41.039 I think if you just make a really good strategy game, 1950 01:33:41.119 --> 01:33:43.680 it's gonna be a good time. So Dona War, I'm 1951 01:33:43.680 --> 01:33:44.640 hopeful we. 1952 01:33:44.680 --> 01:33:47.680 Should play that together, assuming there's some multiplayer. I love 1953 01:33:47.880 --> 01:33:48.840 RTS multiplayer. 1954 01:33:48.960 --> 01:33:50.359 I would love to play some donov War. 1955 01:33:50.640 --> 01:33:52.560 Yeah, and I will only play ORCS. 1956 01:33:53.159 --> 01:33:56.239 That's okay, I support that for you. I will. I 1957 01:33:56.279 --> 01:33:57.920 don't know who I'll play if Tyrannids are in it, 1958 01:33:57.920 --> 01:33:59.640 I'll probably play Tyrannids. 1959 01:34:00.039 --> 01:34:03.920 Tell Yeah, well cool. I think that's gonna do it 1960 01:34:04.039 --> 01:34:07.159 for the show this week, you know. I guess we're 1961 01:34:07.159 --> 01:34:10.439 gonna We're gonna get more Hollow Night News finally later 1962 01:34:10.520 --> 01:34:12.039 except for August twenty first, so. 1963 01:34:12.199 --> 01:34:15.119 By the time this podcast is live, Hollow Night News 1964 01:34:15.199 --> 01:34:16.000 will have happened. 1965 01:34:16.199 --> 01:34:18.720 So yes, So I hope, I hope it's I hope 1966 01:34:18.840 --> 01:34:19.359 it's worth it. 1967 01:34:19.880 --> 01:34:21.760 Congratulations Slash. 1968 01:34:22.560 --> 01:34:26.359 They could announce, other than getting canceled. 1969 01:34:26.039 --> 01:34:28.079 A crossover with Rivals of Ether. 1970 01:34:28.920 --> 01:34:32.359 They're they're adding more content and it's getting delayed further 1971 01:34:32.520 --> 01:34:35.680 because they they're putting more content into it. That'd be 1972 01:34:35.720 --> 01:34:36.560 the funniest thing. 1973 01:34:37.159 --> 01:34:39.760 Actually, no, yeah, there we find out it's and now 1974 01:34:39.800 --> 01:34:41.560 it's Silk Song Part one and part two. 1975 01:34:41.880 --> 01:34:46.000 Oh no, shade Rivals of Ether. By the way, it's 1976 01:34:46.039 --> 01:34:46.479 cool game. 1977 01:34:46.960 --> 01:34:48.960 But why was why was that your worst? 1978 01:34:49.800 --> 01:34:51.439 I don't know, like, if it's a crossover with the 1979 01:34:51.479 --> 01:34:55.239 game Rivals of Ether, they do indie crossovers quite a bit, saying. 1980 01:34:55.039 --> 01:34:57.680 If that's what it is, instead of Silk Song coming. 1981 01:34:57.479 --> 01:35:00.880 Out, yeah, if it's like okay, oh, I was like, 1982 01:35:01.439 --> 01:35:04.840 why didn't you say Fortnite, then why were you just 1983 01:35:04.880 --> 01:35:07.000 because I because I played Fortnite and I would love 1984 01:35:07.079 --> 01:35:14.279 to play the Hollow Night characters. But yeah, so it 1985 01:35:14.319 --> 01:35:18.760 should be an eventful weekend. Stay safe out there, you know, 1986 01:35:18.880 --> 01:35:21.000 with all these all these game announcements come and flying 1987 01:35:21.079 --> 01:35:24.399 past you, they can get pretty pretty unsafe out there, 1988 01:35:24.439 --> 01:35:25.039 so be careful. 1989 01:35:25.039 --> 01:35:26.760 They can. They can really hamm on you, you know. 1990 01:35:27.199 --> 01:35:30.159 Yeah, get hand on yeah, yeah uh. And if you're 1991 01:35:30.199 --> 01:35:32.319 flying on a plane this weekend, keep your socks on, 1992 01:35:32.439 --> 01:35:35.880 for the love of God, you know, not everybody has. 1993 01:35:36.199 --> 01:35:40.000 Don't and don't watch an don't I'm watching. 1994 01:35:39.760 --> 01:35:41.720 Nora on the plane. If you're flying this week. 1995 01:35:41.600 --> 01:35:45.680 Bring a cardboard box. If you watched EVO, they had 1996 01:35:45.720 --> 01:35:48.520 those cardboard boxes to hide the fight sticks. Get one 1997 01:35:48.600 --> 01:35:51.359 of those to hide your view of the monitor. 1998 01:35:51.680 --> 01:35:54.680 I'm actually flying again and like later this week, so 1999 01:35:54.680 --> 01:35:56.159 maybe I'll watch Anor just for the hell of it, 2000 01:35:56.359 --> 01:36:00.239 just for to like exercise my free will and put 2001 01:36:00.279 --> 01:36:00.760 on a Dora. 2002 01:36:01.760 --> 01:36:02.760 Make eye contact. 2003 01:36:07.039 --> 01:36:09.119 Follow the crew here this week. On social media. You 2004 01:36:09.199 --> 01:36:12.600 can follow Charles at Chuck Talk three sixty five. You 2005 01:36:12.680 --> 01:36:16.479 can follow Eric at c Moussy, and you can follow 2006 01:36:16.520 --> 01:36:20.640 me at It's Van Aiken again. Please consider picking up 2007 01:36:20.640 --> 01:36:23.399 a Game in Former subscription. 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