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Speaker 1: Sword and Scale contains adult themes and violence, and is

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not intended for all audiences.

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Speaker 2: Listener discretion is advised.

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Speaker 3: Okay, are you looking at Arthur?

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Speaker 4: What happened there?

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Speaker 3: Okay, tell me what happened? I get you.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: My name's Mike. This is my show. It's called Sword

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and Scale. Show that reveals that the worst monsters are real.

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And today we're going to discuss a very interesting story.

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But I'm gonna warn you in advance. I'm gonna offer

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my opinion. I'm gonna offer my opinion.

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Speaker 3: A whole lot.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna offer it so much it's gonna be really annoying.

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Is anyone really who you think they are? Today? We

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present just the very best moments of our lives on

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social media for the world to see. But that's not

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really the whole picture, is it. There's a lot more

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to us than what we show. What we show can

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be intentionally deceiving sometimes. That's why it's important not to

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believe everything you see online, especially if it's coming from

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an anonymous source. That influencer that you follow that puts

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on makeup while talking about someone's death. Yeah she cries sometimes. Yeah,

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maybe she's even depressed. Maybe our life's fallen apart behind

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the scenes and you don't even know it. Looks could

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be deceiving. And no, I'm not talking about anybody in general.

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There's lots of makeup tutorial true crime shows out there, sadly,

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but the point is that sometimes people aren't who they

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seem to be. Monsters are very much real, but they

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aren't always the person you first suspect. It was eight

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thirty am on October twenty eighth, twenty twelve, and a

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Florida firefighter had just returned home after a grueling twenty

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four hours shift to find out that his house had

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been turned upside down.

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Speaker 3: One seller.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my wife hurt herself, que and Andy was back.

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Speaker 6: How did she hurt herself?

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Speaker 3: I don't know how cut herself or something caught. Okay,

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let me get you on a farm rescue walm hold dad.

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Speaker 1: Jim the firefighter had come home to find his wife, Kim,

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lying bloody at the foot of their bed. She was

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naked except for a white cotton shirt which had been

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pushed up around her neck, exposing her upper body.

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Speaker 3: Hire Rescue Cyrus. What did you dress first?

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Speaker 7: Wait a minute, okay, so tell me exactly what happened.

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I don't know what, sir, we are sending rescue. You

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have to tell me exactly what she did?

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Speaker 3: What happened? Okay? Are you with her right now? Okay?

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How old is she over?

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Speaker 8: That doesn't make a good perence.

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Speaker 1: Kim had blood all over her face and hair. At

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first glance, it appeared that she had tried to hurt herself,

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so that's what her husband told dispatch. Her body was

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cold and posed like a in ballerina, with one leg

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curled frozen in a pirouette. Kim had two white zip

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ties around each of her wrists and one around her ankle.

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Kim's husband had found himself on the receiving end of

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a tragedy. As a firefighter, he experienced tragedy every shift,

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but it was much different now that it was happening

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in his own home, and he was growing increasingly angry

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as he waited for help.

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Speaker 3: Sir, we are sending rescue. Is she awake? Okay? Is

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she breathing?

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Speaker 7: No, I'm trying to get.

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Speaker 1: Off your This is when Kim's husband began to realize

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that his wife was dead.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we're on the phone, because when I asked him

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what was going on?

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Speaker 8: He didn't tell me she tried to commit suicide.

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Speaker 4: So so we're on the way too.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Sir Brian continue with CPR. We do

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have rescue on the way. Said he was a He

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said he was off duty fireman. What is your last name, sir?

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Speaker 1: His name was Derek Dorsey. He was forty four years

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old and had been married to his wife, Kim for

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a decade. Now she lay naked and dead in their

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master bedroom. The realization of what was happening made Derek

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soften a little, and he finally let the tears out.

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, so so you think she's beyond any resuscitation.

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Speaker 7: Rescue is on the way. Okay, you know what happened.

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My rescue is on the way.

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Speaker 1: This wasn't another shift as a firefighter. This was his house.

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His bedroom was covered in his wife's blood. Derek finally

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saw the situation for what it really was. He had

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just lost his wife, and he had no idea what

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had happened.

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Speaker 3: Did it just come home?

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Speaker 2: Just come off duty? Okay?

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Speaker 6: Was he already depressed about something?

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Speaker 8: I don't know what's inside?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 9: I know.

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Speaker 1: Kim and Derek Dorsey had a large, upscale house in

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a gated community. Because they had no children, only three

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miniature schnauzers, the couple were free to focus on their

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careers and self care. They had a gym, a bar,

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a billiard room, a big office, and a tanning room,

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all the fine luxuries in modern living. Kim had her

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own construction company and also worked as a director of

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training for the Quality Assurance Department of Inspection Depot. The

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Dorseys had a pretty comfortable life. The door sas also

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kept guns in the home for safety. Kim had won

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in a drawer beside her bed, and now it was missing.

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Kim had no bullet holes in her but there were

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obvious shots that had been fired into the walls.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 6: So which door is open?

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Speaker 1: Ward?

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Speaker 4: W E R Okay, it's just hard to have a

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stand something, you know that when you when you talk

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a little loud to get a little distory, that's all.

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Speaker 2: I don't even talk to anybody right now.

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Speaker 4: We we ob to stay on the phone to the

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off to get there when it's at this type of call.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Jesus, yeah, he's here.

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Speaker 2: Dared all right.

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Speaker 1: When help arrived, Kim was quickly taken to the medical

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examiner's office. When rescue lifted her body, they found a

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broken pool queue on your neath her. Police began to

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search the house and found more peculiarities. Besides the plastic

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zip ties on Kim's body, the house was a mess.

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A dog statue at the front door had been kicked over,

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Derek's home office had been destroyed. Paperwork was thrown everywhere,

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and drawers were ripped open. In the guest bedroom, there

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was blood on the mattress. Police also found a half

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drunk bottle of Bacardi rum on the nightstand and cigarette

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butts on the floor, but neither Derek nor Kim smoked.

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In fact, Kim despised smoking and forbade it. In the home,

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Christmas wrapping paper had been tossed out of the closet

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and chucked onto the floor downstairs, the kitchen sink had

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been filled with TV remote controls for some reason. In

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the billiard and games room, a custom pool queue was

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missing from its place on the shelf. It was the

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same one found owned under Kim's body. After days of

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looking into this bizarre scene, the police needed more to

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work with. Perhaps this was a robbery gone wrong, so

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they went to the public.

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Speaker 10: Coming to you today because several days later after that

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beginning of that investigation, we are not a whole lot

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farther along than more Sunday morning. I would like to

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solicit the public's help for information on this case. This

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case has garnered quite a bit of attention because of

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the fact this is a public servant's family members. The

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public has shown a lot of interest.

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Speaker 8: And support thus far. I wanted to come forward at

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this time asking for help.

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Speaker 6: Again.

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Speaker 11: We worked that scene for several days, nearly a round

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the plot, and like I.

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Speaker 4: Said, because of the lack of witnesses, the physical evidence, nothing.

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Speaker 12: Has led us hold out farther to day in.

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Speaker 4: Identifying leading to a suspect than that Sunday morning. And

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again this again the still servant's family member.

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Speaker 13: And we want to make sure that anybody who has

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that comfortable to help us these these type of crimes

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occured to talk about him, family members, talk about him,

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acquaintances that.

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Speaker 4: The suspects or suspect in this case would talk about it.

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Somebody knows something somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Kim's murder was brutal and messy. As police continued to

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examine the scene and talk to Derek, they found even

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more weird things. Derek's custom Harley Davidson Zippo lighter was

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missing from its box. Whoever did this to Kim had

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clearly stolen it, yet they'd left Derek's Rollicks watches on

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the nightstand and his computer untouched. In the garage, they

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found a Lonely Wives porn magazine, which Derek swore was

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not his.

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Speaker 6: But it's a file away substantial, he describe some of that.

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Speaker 11: I would prefer not to keep minded that there's just

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about anybody out there to be our suspect, and I

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don't want to let too much information to answer your

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question out.

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Speaker 8: Too much information and be bad.

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Speaker 4: In particular incidents, but know that there was substantial indications

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through foul play Big Orgner.

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Speaker 1: Kim's head and face had been brutally beaten, her breasts

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were bruised and her ribs were fractured. She had died

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from one deep fatal stab wound to the neck. When

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detectives asked Derek to turn on his DVD player in

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the living room, he expected to see a movie he

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and Kim had been watching pop up on the screen,

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but that didn't happen. Instead, a porn movie called Lonely

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Wives came up. Derek got angry, motherfucker, that should not

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be on there. That's the same magazine that's out in

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the garage.

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Speaker 11: It isn't gated neighborhood, so there may be some people

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in that actual neighborhood who we haven't spoken to. If

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there's relative information that anyone has regarding the activities that

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Kim may have had that Saturday to that Sunday, we

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would start to like to speak with them as well.

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Speaker 1: Now the police had their work cut out for them.

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In the meantime, Derek prayed that somebody somewhere knew something.

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Derek Dorsey had returned home from a twenty four hour

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firefighting shift to find his wife Kim, beaten and stabbed

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to death in their upscale home. The house had been ransacked,

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but in strange ways. The police found remote controls in

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the kitchen sink as though someone had attempted to wash them,

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zip ties around Kim's wrists, as well as a pornographic

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movie in the DVD player. None of Derek's Rolex watches

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or computers had been taken. It seemed that whoever killed

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Kim stuck around the house for a long while after

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drinking and smoking and watching a porn movie called Lonely Wives.

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I haven't seen that one. I wonder if there's a

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part two, or three or four. Derek Dorsey was cooperative

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with the police. He admitted that things between him and

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Kim were not so great. Then again, every couple goes

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through tough times at one point or another. But Derek

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had been kind of sleeping around with other women behind

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her back. Maybe Kim knew, maybe she didn't, but he

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swore that he still loved his wife deeply.

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Speaker 8: But she was a strong, beautiful, independent individual, worked hard

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for everything she ever did.

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Speaker 1: She was a productive member of society, and this is

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just the type of person that she was. Derek said

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he had nothing to gain from Kim's death. There was

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no life insurance policy to be cashed out or a

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new girlfriend to move in and take Kim's place. Plus,

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Derek's alibi was solid and actually checked out. He was

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working at the fire station during the murder, So who

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did this? Derek and Kim were a career oriented couple.

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They had no kids, just a few dogs, and both

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worked in the construction world. Kim had a degree in

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civil engineering and headed up quality assurance for an inspection depot,

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where she helped Floridians prepare construction for hurricanes. Derek ran

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his own general contracting business on top of being a firefighter,

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so they had a lot of cash. But Kim took

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her work very seriously and it soon weighed on her.

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She couldn't turn off work, and she found herself taking antidepressants.

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She gained a lot of weight, her body changed, and

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her mind didn't feel so great. The week she was killed,

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she was planning on going back to the doctor to

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switch up her medication. The side effects were taking a

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major toll on her physical and mental health. That's why

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Derek immediately thought she'd killed herself when he came home

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to find her.

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Speaker 3: You know dead, Okay, tell me exactly what happened. I

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don't know if you commit suicide.

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Speaker 8: Loved the arm and gone.

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Speaker 1: But Kim's death was not a suicide. The state of

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the house told a story of turmoil. Kim had clearly

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fought off whoever had attacked her. She'd even managed to

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get a gun at one point and fire off some

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rounds at her assailant, but she missed and the bullet

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hit the wall. It was also determined that Kim had

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been raped. She died from blunt force trauma to her

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head and a fatal stab wound. This attack was as

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personal as it is sickening. Derek ran a general contracting

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business and often employed various young guys on quick jobs.

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He gave the police a few names, including Joshua Ville

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and Lance Kirkpatrick or l J as he was called.

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Lance actually lived with the Dorseas at one point, and

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Derek said that he would have taken a bullet for Kim.

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Speaker 8: So tell me when you lived with that one?

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Speaker 7: Was that.

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Speaker 6: There? If I have to you know? Okay, So who

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lives at the house to size the kids? No, they

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don't know.

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Speaker 8: Okay.

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Speaker 6: Do you have a car? No?

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Speaker 12: No car?

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 8: So that would he take you to work?

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Speaker 6: Or I mean like take you to the job any

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things in the job side on transit fall life will

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depend on one thing?

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Speaker 14: Will come pick me up for I'm.

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Speaker 6: So roughly how long if you don't care? As long

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as you know, Derek, they've been married. They've been married

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all time. I mean pretty much. I'm at who'd you

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meet first? Well?

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Speaker 8: I met Derek first because I was.

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Speaker 6: Working on his house and they moved in. This is

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before they moved into.

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Speaker 8: The house, the house they were building that house together.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, I got you. Got okay.

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Speaker 1: Lets said that he met the door Seas when he

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worked on their house. Then Derek would call him to

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come do random jobs for his business.

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Speaker 6: How long ago did you say? Would you say he

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lived month and a half? Okay, I'm eating. I mean

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I just went clean.

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Speaker 15: Matter of fact, probably less than a month, because I

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just went and cleaned the room.

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Speaker 6: You know, he called me like a week or two ago.

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I asked me to come clean the room up upstairs. Okay.

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Well I didn't leave the trash, but I still had

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some clothes.

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Speaker 15: Up there, and you know, going to be cleaned, you

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normal regular clean stuff like that. So you wouldn't do that, okay.

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Speaker 1: Lance said that he hadn't been to the Dorseas house

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since he cleared out his stuff.

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Speaker 15: So you move out when you move out or are

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you living when you after you move out? His voice,

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I went staying at the apartment, you know, I don't

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know that when Brian.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I got you.

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Speaker 1: Lance said that he'd been staying with a new friend

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named Brian Keefer, As he told police after leaving the

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door seas he'd become a bit of a vagabond.

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Speaker 6: Where do you live? I'm just wherever I can say. Okay.

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Speaker 1: When the police were on to Lance, they didn't just

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bring him in for fun. You see. Lance had told

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Derek that he was on a shrimping boat in Georgia

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when Kim died, but that wasn't true. He was in

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Jacksonville staying with his buddy Brian. Brian wasn't the most

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savory guy, put it that way. He was straight up sketch.

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And the police soon got a hold of Brian and

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brought him in to talk.

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Speaker 16: There was a person that you know by the nickname

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of l J. Do you know his real name?

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Speaker 8: His Lance Kirkpatrick. But there is a middle name. Okay,

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I forget what it was.

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Speaker 16: And he goes by the nickname of LJJ.

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Speaker 12: And do you have a nickname? Then you go by

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is that money?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Whatever the black people gave me, Okay, I made no race.

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Speaker 12: No problem.

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Speaker 1: The woman that Money aka Brian is talking to is black.

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Just for context anyway.

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Speaker 5: But the black people call you money like the circle

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of drug dealers, that's the name.

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Speaker 8: Then you gave me for some reason.

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Speaker 2: So I let it be that way. That way, I

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know that's the people that are talking to me, all right.

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Speaker 1: Brian was your typical Floridian drug dealer. I think GTA

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six if you're a gamer. He was thin and tanned,

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with a shaved head. He did the entire interview with

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his shirt off because I don't know, because he wanted to.

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He wanted to show off his cool tribal tattoos. You know,

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maybe because he fancied himself hot. I don't know. I

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don't really know what goes through certain people's heads. But

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he just sat there with his shirt off, and everyone

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else in the room was wearing normal clothes.

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Speaker 16: I want to direct your attention to Florida Georgia weekend.

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Do you remember that weekend last past Did you have

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the occasion to see I guess a lady by.

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Speaker 12: The name of Melissa give her keys to LJ.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Florida Georgia weekend was the weekend of Kim's murder.

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For those of you that aren't Southern trash like me,

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let me translate. It's a big football thing. That's really

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all you need to know. Lance said he was on

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a shrimping boat that weekend, but he wasn't okay?

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Speaker 12: And what kind of car does Melissa have?

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Speaker 8: Arab for time Toyota? Okay?

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Speaker 12: Do you recall what color it is?

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Speaker 8: Like navy blue, but his older so it's a little faded.

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Speaker 16: Okay, to your knowledge? Was that did Melissa give LJ?

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Speaker 12: Those keys? On Friday?

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Speaker 8: Saturday morning?

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Speaker 12: Saturday morning, four thirty and four thirty in the morning, the.

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Speaker 1: Police had been at a standstill in their investigation, so

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they began checking security footage from the gated community where

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the Dorseys lived. In the morning, a few hours before

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Derek found his wife, they saw the same blue rab

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four driving on their street.

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Speaker 17: Did you know where LJ Was going to pick up

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drugs for the blackmail that was in the house with Melissa?

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Speaker 12: Okay?

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Speaker 16: Did he combat with the drugs? And did that concern you?

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Was that unusual for him not to come back?

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Speaker 2: Very unusual because he was one in my employees and

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like you, never had done anything wrong period, okay?

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Speaker 16: And was the girl Melissa was she getting concerned too

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about her car?

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Speaker 8: She was a crackag, so she was just driving me

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up the wall, all right?

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Speaker 1: So you get the picture Lance and Brian wearing some

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shady meth business Brian's house acts like a hub for

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users to stop in, pick up drugs, do some and

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then leave. Lance is staying there and working for Brian

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because construction and everything else in his life has slowed down.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 1: Brian was involved in the drug world, but he also

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ran the legit business too.

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Speaker 12: How long have you known Lja?

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Speaker 8: Three months?

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Speaker 6: Here?

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Speaker 8: Would work for me?

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Speaker 12: And howd you met him?

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Speaker 8: How I met him? When I was drug dealer's house.

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Speaker 2: I went over there to pay I helped GC get

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off heroin for three months and I went and paid

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off all his debts so that he could be my

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partner in my business.

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Speaker 8: And I wanted the black.

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Speaker 2: Gentlemen there stole my vehicle, so I was kind of

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stuck there.

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Speaker 8: And that's where I met LJA.

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Speaker 2: And he kind of explained to me what was going

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on there and then he was having.

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Speaker 8: A crappy life and then he be involved in that.

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Speaker 2: And if I could please help him, and I was like,

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I give you my word, buddy, I will, I will

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try my hardest to help you in life. And I

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believe you're I'll take you with maybe you and put

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you to work.

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Speaker 12: And what kind of business do you have?

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Speaker 2: BK flooring, So I pretty much said, do complete home remodels,

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but my main focus is flooring.

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Speaker 1: So you start to get a picture of the kind

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of life Brian is leading flooring by day meth by night.

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When Lance met Brian, he was technically homeless, using occasionally

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and going down a dark path. On the night of

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the murder, Lance takes Melissa's car to pick up some

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more drugs, but he never comes back. That same car

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is seen on Derek Dorsey Street.

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Speaker 16: Now, at some point in time, were you so concerned

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that you went out with the person by the nickname

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of t to go look for LJ in a cab?

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I spent four.

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Speaker 2: Round eighty dollars for about four hours of riding around

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cab looking for LJA everywhere he's been to, when everything.

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Speaker 12: And were you able to find him?

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Speaker 8: Didn't find TRASO okay?

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Speaker 12: And did do you? Ultimately?

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Speaker 16: I guess go home and go to sleep. Is that

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what happened after you met?

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Speaker 8: I didn't want to go home because I didn't want

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to face my girl or the girl.

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Speaker 2: The cars got to take it from him, So I

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went to my mom's right and then I had my

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girl brought over to my mom's and then I was

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hoping that the other girl would go.

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Speaker 1: The other girl, Melissa, did go eventually, but she was pissed.

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Despite being a crackhead, Melissa called the police to report

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her RAB four stolen. She told him exactly what had

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happened and gave Lance's name. That's how the RAB four

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ended up on the police radar and how Lance's name

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clicked when it showed up on the report.

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Speaker 16: My next understanding is that you get a call from

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LJ on Sunday?

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Speaker 12: Is that right? Is that a okay?

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Speaker 16: And what does he tell you when he calls you

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on Sunday?

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Speaker 2: We need to meet and tells me the locations at

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the gate on the south side.

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Speaker 12: And touched, okay, do you go to the gate on

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the south side?

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Speaker 2: Go there in Gator City, in Gator City cab and

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he's standing out front and he tells.

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Speaker 8: Me, don't need you can go ahead. He tells me

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that carry close it. No okay.

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Speaker 2: What he tells me that he murdered somebody and is

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pretty much he's going to prison and there's nothing that

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can be done about it.

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Speaker 8: And I'm saying, I said, what do you mean you

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murder somebody and your life is over and you're going

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to prison. He's like, I'm going to prison.

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Speaker 1: Brian was skeptical Lance wasn't exactly the most credible person.

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Then they were both, well, you know, sketchy, I'll just

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use the word sketchy.

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Speaker 8: Is your son dead? Is your ex wife dead? Am

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I dead? Is my fiance dead?

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Speaker 6: No? Right?

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Speaker 8: And he's like no.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, so there are people you care

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about still in the world and he said yes. And

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I said, so, why don't you focus on those people

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for now? Buy your heads running in circles? And I

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don't even know if you're telling me a story or not,

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you know, because you've been out drinking, you have your

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knuncle's broken, you know, And why don't you just focus

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on right now, this moment? What do you want to

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do if you're going to prison but you're not turning yourself,

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and what do you want to do right now? Do

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you want to want the game? He was like, yeah,

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I want. I want to get a beer and watch

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the game. I was like, all right, I'll buy a

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beer watch the game.

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Speaker 1: As they were talking, Brian noticed how bad Lance's hand looked.

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Speaker 8: His bone was sticking out of his hand.

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Speaker 12: Was he trying to treat it, and it looked like he.

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Speaker 8: Had cleaned himself up really good.

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Speaker 12: So the last time you saw him, he didn't have

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any injury.

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Speaker 2: So he had a cut on his hand, but he

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00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:31,359
did not have a broken finger. Okay. It was scared

480
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,279
that the DNA would have gotten on the body.

481
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 16: And then he made those statements to you. Did you

482
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,839
have any idea if those were true or not.

483
00:29:40,079 --> 00:29:44,119
Speaker 2: I didn't know if he had just gotten into a fight.

484
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,799
Speaker 8: He didn't say that it was a woman. If he

485
00:29:47,839 --> 00:29:50,200
had said it was a woman, then.

486
00:29:50,039 --> 00:29:53,359
Speaker 2: I would have, you know, kind of reactive one, you know,

487
00:29:53,599 --> 00:29:57,680
but just coming there, kind of looking drunk, kind of

488
00:29:57,759 --> 00:30:02,039
just you know, he was is really like slow and

489
00:30:02,119 --> 00:30:04,640
you know, wasn't giving me no info.

490
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 7: You know.

491
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,599
Speaker 8: The only thing he said was I'm going to prison.

492
00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:10,279
Speaker 12: So he looked like he had drink alcohol.

493
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, ok, yeah, but I think he had drink alcohol

494
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:21,039
after the fact, you know. And he didn't tell me

495
00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:24,519
nothing about how the murder happened at that time.

496
00:30:25,359 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: That's when the two parted ways, but Lance would return

497
00:30:29,079 --> 00:30:33,319
to Brian's mom's house later to watch that Florida Georgia game.

498
00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: He came over and I made him two hammers and

499
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,039
the drink, and I walked upstairs and he was curled

500
00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:46,160
up in the ball sleeping.

501
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:47,039
Speaker 8: Okay.

502
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: Lance hung out for a few days, but the two

503
00:30:50,759 --> 00:30:55,240
never talked about the murder again. Then Brian saw something

504
00:30:55,279 --> 00:30:59,640
on television about Lance's boss's wife committing suicide.

505
00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:03,039
Speaker 12: Did you ever learn about this case at all? What

506
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:03,839
I think you said?

507
00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:08,279
Speaker 2: You thought it was a suous suicide suicide on it?

508
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:09,079
Speaker 8: Okay?

509
00:31:09,759 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 12: So is that all the information you have from that?

510
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 8: When I completely that he was bullshitting? Okay?

511
00:31:15,319 --> 00:31:17,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, because how can you make a murder look like

512
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,680
a suicide if somebody shot?

513
00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:22,279
Speaker 8: Bet you, it made no.

514
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,359
Speaker 12: Sense, okay?

515
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: And so the gunshots involved, I don't know, I don't

516
00:31:28,279 --> 00:31:30,240
That's where I just kind of clicked in.

517
00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:32,799
Speaker 8: My head like maybe he's losing them. Who cares?

518
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,599
Speaker 1: So essentially Brian forgot about the whole murder thing and

519
00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:41,640
just moved on. Then Lance brought it up again and

520
00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:42,839
things got serious.

521
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 16: Well, let me ask you about the conversation that you

522
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,839
end up having. You said a couple of days after

523
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,440
he was of your mom's house. Tell me, like, where

524
00:31:54,519 --> 00:31:58,400
y'all are when you have the conversation. The more details

525
00:31:59,119 --> 00:32:04,000
of your mom's house. Ye, and what does what does

526
00:32:04,039 --> 00:32:04,720
he say at that.

527
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: Point, he says he didn't say her. He just said

528
00:32:12,359 --> 00:32:17,880
I hit I swow the poolstick so hard it broken

529
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,720
twelve pieces. It is a two thousand dollars poolstick.

530
00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:24,799
Speaker 1: No details of the crime have been released to the

531
00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:28,359
public yet. Brian was telling them things that only the

532
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:33,200
killer could have known, like the broken pool queue, which

533
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:35,759
was later found under Kim's dead body.

534
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 12: Did he say why he was over there first?

535
00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:38,279
Speaker 6: Did he?

536
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

537
00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:42,119
Speaker 8: He said he was over there to pick up.

538
00:32:42,079 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: His son's PlayStation three and xbox and games and some

539
00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:48,559
clothes for so.

540
00:32:49,359 --> 00:32:52,559
Speaker 1: At one point, Lance had been married and he had

541
00:32:52,599 --> 00:32:56,640
a young son from that relationship. Apparently, when he went

542
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:01,599
back to the Dorseys to collect his son's things, Kim

543
00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:02,680
wasn't happy.

544
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 18: He said that the lady was gonna call his boss

545
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:18,200
was at the fire station to her husband, and.

546
00:33:16,319 --> 00:33:18,599
Speaker 8: I guess he took her cell phone. That was what

547
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,039
he said.

548
00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: He said, I took her cell phone, and I told

549
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,799
her to get out of my way, that I just

550
00:33:24,839 --> 00:33:26,160
wanted my stuff.

551
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,119
Speaker 8: And told her to leave me alone.

552
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,559
Speaker 2: I just wanted my stuff, and pretty much he just

553
00:33:33,599 --> 00:33:36,440
goes into I don't know whether.

554
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,519
Speaker 8: He hit her with that full stick, but he.

555
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:44,279
Speaker 2: Kind of emphasized swinging the full stick okay, And then

556
00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:47,559
he emphasized being shot at five times.

557
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 8: And then he said that.

558
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: He was waiting for the sixth shot because he knew

559
00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:53,680
it was a revolver.

560
00:33:54,599 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 6: Okay.

561
00:33:55,319 --> 00:33:59,279
Speaker 2: But when he heard the window open, he thought the

562
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,039
lady was going.

563
00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 8: Out through the window. He ran in there and beat.

564
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 2: Her with his hand and then stabbed her.

565
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: The story was sparse and patchy, but the details matched up.

566
00:34:14,599 --> 00:34:18,679
The broken pool que, the five bullet holes in the wall,

567
00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:22,639
and the blood on the window.

568
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 8: Why was she shooting at you? Where we're you know?

569
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,679
But I didn't really want to question him because I

570
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:30,280
didn't want.

571
00:34:30,119 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 2: To stop him from telling me stuff, okay, like I'm

572
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,760
interrogating him with you, right so, and at the same time,

573
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,519
I didn't really believe him.

574
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 12: Let's let's go back to what he was telling you.

575
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 6: Though.

576
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 12: He says that I guess she shoots in him, he

577
00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:50,960
hits her and it stabs her. Where does he say

578
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:51,760
he stabbed her?

579
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 8: I believe in the neck okay, up.

580
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 5: Facial neck area, so somewhere her neck or above yeah, okay?

581
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 12: Does he say how many times.

582
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 8: Okay, well he did so as I stabbed her.

583
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 16: Okay, and then what does he say? Does he say

584
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,280
that she was dead or does he say.

585
00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 12: Anything about that?

586
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 8: He said Delai was saying his stop, you're killing.

587
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: Brian's statement secured Lance as the killer, but still the

588
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:34,559
question of why remained. Why was Kim so angry when

589
00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:37,360
Lance showed up at the house to get his things.

590
00:35:38,119 --> 00:35:40,800
This was someone that Derek had told the cops would

591
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,480
take a bullet for Kim. Derek had nothing bad to

592
00:35:44,519 --> 00:35:48,199
say about Lance, so why was Kim threatened when he

593
00:35:48,199 --> 00:35:52,199
showed up at her house. Brian had revealed the details

594
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,119
of the gruesome attack, and he was about to give

595
00:35:55,159 --> 00:35:59,039
police a glimpse into the motive, and it didn't make

596
00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:28,400
Derek look all that wholesome. Florida firefighter and general contractor

597
00:36:28,519 --> 00:36:32,199
Derek Dorsey had come home to find his upscale home

598
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:38,519
ransacked and his wife Kim brutally murdered. The couple's former employee,

599
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,679
Lance Kirkpatrick, had been seen driving a stolen car to

600
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,800
the Dorsey's house on the day of the murder, and

601
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,199
now his former boss, Brian Keefer, had told police that

602
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:54,519
Lance admitted to the murder without Brian. The police didn't

603
00:36:54,519 --> 00:36:57,079
have much. They had to keep him talking.

604
00:36:57,599 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 12: And then what does he say happens next?

605
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,159
Speaker 2: He said he was just so out of it. He's

606
00:37:03,199 --> 00:37:06,079
stayed there for two hours waiting on the police to

607
00:37:06,159 --> 00:37:06,880
get there.

608
00:37:08,039 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 9: And then he left and then went back there two

609
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,559
hours later because he realized he left his phone there,

610
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,840
and then he cleaned up around there.

611
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 16: What do you say he did to clean up?

612
00:37:23,039 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 8: He just said he clean up. He said he put

613
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,679
the phone in the trash, impacted her for trash.

614
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:35,639
Speaker 12: Disposing, okay, But he did do something with her phone.

615
00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:38,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, he took her phone in the beginning, okay,

616
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,079
because he tried to call her husband.

617
00:37:41,679 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 8: He tried to call her, she tried to call there.

618
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,599
Speaker 1: It was again when Lance showed up at the doors

619
00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:51,840
He's house to get his son's things. He told Brian

620
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,599
that Kim got so upset she started threatening to call

621
00:37:55,679 --> 00:37:59,800
Derek at work, but Derek had told police that Lance

622
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:02,840
was a good guy who would never do anything to Kim.

623
00:38:03,159 --> 00:38:08,000
Then Brian revealed something sinister, and he.

624
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: Had said, her husband know she's on her, The husband

625
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:14,679
cheats on her.

626
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,039
Speaker 12: Yeah, he did tell you.

627
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, And that him and the husband had sex

628
00:38:21,039 --> 00:38:23,920
or some prostitute at a job about a week and

629
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:24,800
a half ago.

630
00:38:26,119 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 8: And I said, well, then he probably doesn't.

631
00:38:28,119 --> 00:38:31,679
Speaker 2: Really care about her, and he was like, no, he

632
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:32,639
cares about her.

633
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,639
Speaker 8: And that's all that was said about that.

634
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,199
Speaker 1: Derek had admitted to police that he had affairs, but

635
00:38:40,039 --> 00:38:43,480
no one knew that he was having threesomes with prostitutes

636
00:38:44,159 --> 00:38:48,760
and his employees. Maybe Kim had known about what Lance

637
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,480
and Derek had done. Maybe she was upset about it

638
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,199
when he showed up to their house. What the police

639
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,719
did know from the evidence was that LJ showed up

640
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,280
on an ounce after a bender and demanded his son's things.

641
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,519
We can assume that Kim was frightened and threatened to

642
00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:11,840
call Derek, which resulted in Lance attacking her. We don't

643
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,800
know how or why, but he did. The fight escalated

644
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,960
and Lance tied Kim to her bedside table with zip

645
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,000
ties as he ran around the house. Kim managed to

646
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,360
get out her revolver and shoot five times. Then she

647
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,760
pulled free and tried to escape out the window. That's

648
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,000
when Lance entered the room again and killed her.

649
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 2: In the beginning, I made a stupid comment, I was like,

650
00:39:38,079 --> 00:39:39,360
was there any motive for you?

651
00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:41,519
Speaker 8: Doing this. You know. I was trying to get a

652
00:39:41,559 --> 00:39:43,199
reason why you would kill.

653
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 2: Somebody, you know, and he was like, no, there was

654
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,519
no motive at all. It was just the wrong person

655
00:39:50,639 --> 00:39:54,079
in the wrong place at the wrong time, and they

656
00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:56,320
got in a way of me getting my stuff from

657
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,960
my son, and I always regret it. I was getting

658
00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:04,000
everything I could out of him because I'm not gonna

659
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,039
sit there and let somebody get murdered. And even though

660
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,840
I thought it was a good person, I'm not gonna

661
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,159
just sit there and let somebody get murdered.

662
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,199
Speaker 12: Did you say he purposely did not take something.

663
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 8: Yes, he said he purposely didn't take anything so.

664
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 2: It wouldn't look like it was him there, you know,

665
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,639
like if he would have taken anything from his room,

666
00:40:27,159 --> 00:40:29,360
it would have looked like it was him.

667
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:36,639
Speaker 8: So of course Jesus, he said.

668
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,039
Speaker 2: That, you know, they were gonna look at it like

669
00:40:40,159 --> 00:40:42,800
it was devot that killed her or something, you know.

670
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 1: Like Lance hung around the door Sea's house for hours

671
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:51,639
after he murdered Kim. He left and came back. He

672
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:56,320
watched that porn movie and he raped Kim. Then he

673
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,480
tried to wash the remote controls of his DNA. He

674
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:04,280
didn't think things through exactly. I mean, he was drunk

675
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,840
and high when he did this. In fact, he was

676
00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:08,480
out of his mind.

677
00:41:09,159 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 16: I think earlier I stopped you when you were trying

678
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,599
to say that he was concerned about his DNA being there,

679
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:16,199
because he was.

680
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 2: He had punched holes in the wall like two days

681
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:25,000
previous in my place because Luther Hines kicked the door

682
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:31,239
to my house because he dis a whole nother story,

683
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,880
but he anyways, that's why he punched holes in the

684
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,320
wall and cuts on his.

685
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,079
Speaker 8: Okay, so he thought.

686
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,199
Speaker 2: The DNA from those cuts when he punched the lady's

687
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,159
face I guess was cut open. He thought that they

688
00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:47,039
were going to piece it together and that's how they

689
00:41:47,079 --> 00:41:48,039
were going to catch him.

690
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: Lance's DNA was eventually found all over the house. He

691
00:41:52,519 --> 00:41:56,079
drank from bottles. He left cigarette butts on the carpet.

692
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,280
He didn't really try to clean up very much.

693
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 8: Does l J smoke?

694
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 7: Yes?

695
00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 8: What does he smoke?

696
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,599
Speaker 2: When I met him, he smoke Morrez. Now he smokes

697
00:42:06,679 --> 00:42:12,159
Marvelo Special Blind seventy two's. I spoke Marvel Ultralizes and

698
00:42:12,199 --> 00:42:15,280
he pretty much says he hasn't had money. He's been

699
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:20,119
smoking my Marvelo Oldtralizes too, so as are his three brands.

700
00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:21,760
He would be around.

701
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,639
Speaker 1: Right after they spoke with Brian, Lance was picked up.

702
00:42:26,639 --> 00:42:30,199
The police expected him to be silent, but he talked.

703
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,159
He started yapping. I guess he doesn't know the golden

704
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,679
rule we keep repeating here, don't talk to cops.

705
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 6: When's the last time you were over at Derek's house?

706
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:52,760
I went over there a week ago, maybe a week

707
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,280
and a half ago, looking for h see what he

708
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,719
was if he gets the money from get all stuff

709
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,800
like that. But he wasn't home. Okay, who was there?

710
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,320
And I thought him was the promply outside? But you

711
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:12,920
know he answered the door. So did you think he

712
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,599
would think he wasn't even there? Where the keys to

713
00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:19,000
be supposed to be a partner to the dog right there?

714
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:19,639
Speaker 8: What the dog were?

715
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 6: There's a little dog, but my big dog by the door.

716
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 15: Yeah, and you looked there and see if it wasn't there.

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Speaker 1: Lance admitted to the police that he knew where Kim

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and Derek kept their extra front door key under the

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dog statue. Now, if you recall that particular statue was

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kicked over during the murder, It was all starting to

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come together.

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Speaker 6: Do you remember what day it was that he went

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over there and did that. Yeah, it was Georgia floor,

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Georgia floor, So it was.

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Speaker 8: Georgia floor's right before the game on Saturday.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna say for the game.

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Speaker 19: So you went over there and he said, you're going

728
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over to see there, you know, just carl former to

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try to get some workout.

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Speaker 6: Time is some work is usually how it goes. And like, okay,

731
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I can use the romatas league here, here's a gass. Okay,

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00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,840
that's not usually. What time did you go over here?

733
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I think it was right.

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Speaker 8: Before the game was playing, around one and.

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Speaker 6: Two, four and two. That was, And that's Saturday, Florida, Georgia.

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Did you watch the game?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I watch the game. Where did you watch the game?

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I watched the game at brian Mom's house.

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Speaker 1: What is Lance's strategy here? Is he trying to admit

741
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,960
he went over there to account for his DNA and

742
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,639
been trying to set up an alibi by watching the

743
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game at Brian's. This is seriously a unintelligent man.

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Speaker 19: Now, when you went over there on Saturday, how did

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you get over to Florida, Georgia?

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Speaker 5: Friend of mine?

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00:44:51,159 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 6: Okay, who's that.

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00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 8: Her name?

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Speaker 6: Last name, Melissa is her first name. Yeah, and up

750
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,000
in her little car? What kind of cars she had?

751
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A little blue masud?

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00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: My lord, the lies. Melissa's car is the one he stole,

753
00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:16,360
just in case you forgot. Oh hey, Lance, what are

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00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:16,800
you doing?

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00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 6: What if I told you I didn't believe on your story? Story?

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00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,039
Speaker 15: Well, only part of the story that you believe, the part.

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Speaker 6: About how you got.

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00:45:25,559 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 15: Over the bars south on Saturday, Okay, with melissa truck.

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00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 6: Okay, how did they get over there? Well, I know

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00:45:33,519 --> 00:45:38,440
he's had Melissa's truck. Molislam wasn't in that truck.

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Speaker 12: Well, j.

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Speaker 8: We're avoiding the big question here.

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Speaker 6: I've been asking the question since they got.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I know you have been.

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Speaker 19: Okay, Well, let's go ahead and let's get to this

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next step here.

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Speaker 14: Okay, all right, I know you.

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Speaker 19: Went inside the house last stuff our two centuries in Florida, Okay,

769
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:09,239
all right, And you're good friends with Derek, right, And

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I know you're.

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Speaker 15: Just talking to people, okay, all right.

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Speaker 6: You gotta remember I talked to a lot of people, okay,

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And I spent.

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Speaker 15: All freaking day to day talking to people, Okay, all right,

775
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,199
And people talk, okay, and people tell us things.

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Speaker 14: Okay, all right, and.

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Speaker 6: I don't think you went inside the house. Okay, I've

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00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:38,400
been inside the house.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, okay.

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Speaker 6: When we talk to people, we talk to a lot

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of people.

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Speaker 19: We'll get a lot of information, all right, and then

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00:46:48,559 --> 00:46:51,800
we look at her its okay, yeah, do you know

784
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:52,760
how cellphone was?

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Speaker 6: Basically, tell me how so phone is.

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00:46:58,639 --> 00:47:01,559
Speaker 1: This is when the cops had to explain to idiot

787
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:06,559
drug addict Lance that his phone is a tracking device

788
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and it follows him wherever he goes, leaving a digital footprint.

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It's amazing that people on Earth in twenty twenty four

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00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:21,000
still aren't aware of that. Must explain our current state

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00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,880
of political affairs. They also had to explain to this

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00:47:26,599 --> 00:47:30,880
drain on society that there was evidence at the scene,

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like security camera footage, and that the evidence didn't really

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look all that good for him.

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Speaker 15: Everybody has a side of the story. We have to

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afford you an opportunity for you to tell us your

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00:47:43,559 --> 00:47:46,880
side of the story. Okay, that's what we have to do.

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Speaker 6: What story I don't. We'll get there.

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Speaker 15: It's not costing a Listen, let me talk right, you

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follow me, thank guys. Okay, when I say you're not

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a monster. I know this because you talk for somebody

802
00:47:59,679 --> 00:48:05,119
until what happened. Okay, we've spoken to him and he's

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already close what you.

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Speaker 1: Said, and with that, Lance is pretty much done. He

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00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:15,119
stopped talking, but the detective still swabbed his cheeks to

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confirm the DNA and arrested him for Kim's murder.

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Speaker 20: Horton, thank you all for coming out on no busy

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news day Sunday Out Timber twenty eighth, twenty twelve, thirty two,

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the thirty six hundred block peast Berry Drive, thirty eight

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00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:34,440
year old Kim Marie Dorsey was found dead by her.

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Speaker 6: Rescue husband.

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Speaker 20: We actually received the information after that. Some of that

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information that we received led us to a person who

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we had some knowledge of, a person who had in

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00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,880
the past lived with the victim and her husband. That

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00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,320
person was thirty one year old Lance Eugene Kirkpatrick. With

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that information, we actually found over the next days after

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he got that subject to us an associate of Kurson

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Patricks who cooperated.

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Speaker 8: With investigators with this case.

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Speaker 20: The cooperation he provided was substantial and really broke our case.

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Led us to make the arrest of Kirkpatrick.

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Speaker 8: King Dorsey.

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Speaker 1: Derek was beside himself when he found out that Lance

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was the one that killed his wife.

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Speaker 3: I howled like.

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Speaker 8: Some wounded animal. Kind of trial because of the betrayal.

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Speaker 1: He held up photographs of Kim to the camera and

829
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let the tears roll.

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Speaker 8: This is the person he took away from me, her family,

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and everyone else. Kim taught me so much.

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Speaker 1: I just wish I could have been a better person

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for her. It took two years for Lance's family to

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get to trial. He made it a living hell for

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Kim and her family members, dragging out the proceedings with

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lies and various tactics in order to attempt to save

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himself from prison. In the end, it didn't work. He

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faced a courtroom for the rape and murder of Kim Dorsey,

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and he was sentenced to three life terms for his heinous,

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disgusting crime. Derek spoke directly at Lance during the sentencing.

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The man he had once considered a buddy, so close

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that they even had sex with the same prostitute at

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the same time, was now going to jail for murdering

844
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his wife. And yes, I did say prostitute, not sex worker,

845
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because no matter what your social media told you, fucking

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ain't work.

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Speaker 4: For two and a half years.

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Speaker 2: I've stood by and watched the defend and prolong the

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proceedings with lies, besartching Kim's name, and even snitching on every.

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Speaker 8: Person he knows in order to save his own skin.

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Good luck with that reputation in prison, Hill Jada.

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Speaker 1: Derek attended grief counseling after Kim's death and began working

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with a psychologist who would later become his new wife.

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The two started a mental health practice together.

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Speaker 21: And Derek Dorsey is now director of operations for a

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00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,719
local mental health care counseling facility, and he's also still

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a firefighter, but has less than a year before retirement.

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He says, above all, he wants to thank everyone involved

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00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,360
in his case, the prosecutors and the detectives.

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Speaker 12: He said, they were all amazing.

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Speaker 1: Everyone in this tragic story was a different person than

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00:51:27,559 --> 00:51:30,760
they presented to the world. There's a lot of that

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going around in twenty twenty four, especially after an election.

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I might add Derek was a firefighter and a business

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owner who had a beautiful house and a beautiful wife,

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00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,519
just like David Byrne. Yet behind her back, he was

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cheating on her with many women and even having sex

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with prostitutes with his CD employees. Kim seemed like a happy,

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00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:03,760
successful businesswoman, but inside she was crumbling and fighting a

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00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:08,679
terrible depression. Brian looked like a sketchy Floridian drug dealer

871
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:13,280
and a roofer, but he was the hero of this story.

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00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,639
He rescued men who were down and out, and when

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00:52:17,679 --> 00:52:21,280
one of them confessed to a murder, he immediately turned

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00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:26,400
him in. He actually had a conscience. Sometimes looks can

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00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:32,679
be deceiving, and Lance well, Lance was a troubled, sad

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00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,320
man who may have been grateful for the help that

877
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,559
the Dorseas gave him, but he committed a brutal, disgusting

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00:52:40,599 --> 00:52:46,800
act towards Kim and will never truly understand why monsters

879
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:54,440
are real and could be anyone. Heroes are real too,

880
00:52:54,599 --> 00:53:47,119
and they don't always come looking like you'd expect. That

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00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,679
doesn't for yet another one. Thank you so much for

882
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,559
joining us once again, just to let you know. There

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00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:57,679
may be a few hurdles with our schedule in the

884
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:03,199
coming weeks, just life stuff, things that kind of take

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00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:09,400
my time away that cannot be helped unfortunately, and I

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00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,480
must be present for so apologies in advance. If we

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don't put out a show here and there in the

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00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:22,000
coming weeks. It's not something I'm happy about or looking

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00:54:22,079 --> 00:55:02,559
forward to. I assure you