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December second.
Speaker 1: We're in the month of December.
Speaker 3: Holiday seasons, Happy holidays. Let's welcome in the guy that
represents the Daily Herald. He hopefully he's in a good mood,
a good holiday season, Thanksgiving. He doesn't like the mouse,
but I know he likes the holidays. I need to
know how his Thanksgiving. When we got Brandon see journey,
g Man, how are you doing today?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Why do you and Ben.
Speaker 1: Always do that?
Speaker 5: You always try to gauge my mood like I'm gonna
come in like some.
Speaker 1: Or behemoth type dog. Good. No, I am fired up,
I'm excited.
Speaker 5: I've been paralyzed on my couch for literally the last
few days trying to queen follow everything that's been going on.
This is amazing what's transpired in the last forty eight hours.
Speaker 1: What's frustrating is there's nothing really a substance where you
could go good enough. Okay, this is definitely something that happened,
But I have a lot of thoughts on this.
Speaker 5: A lot of things have become clear over the last
few hours. And my goodness, karnis taka God bless you man.
That's all I'm gonna say so. So anyway, we're gonna
talk a lot more about this very very intriguing things
going on. I think a lot of some kind of
secret nuggets. I think we're revealed by Kilani in that
Big twelve press conference. And yeah, I'm excited to talk
about all of that very interesting things going on with
Bayau football perceptually and foundationally.
Speaker 1: That it's gonna be a net positive, I believe. So anyway,
glad to be here.
Speaker 3: Gonna be a net positive.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 3: We're gonna get into that sound hopefully here in the
nitty gritty. I know, last time we had g Man,
we went on a long tangent. It was a good tangent,
a good rant, good content. But we'll see if we're
able to get make it to that Kalani Sataki and
Joey MacGuire sound. They both addressed the media yesterday in
preparation for the Big to Championship game on Saturday. G
Man is right. A lot has transpired in regards to
Kilani and Penn State. And it was interesting because you
hear this from you know, a source online and nobody
from really up until yesterday, from the national media, from
the college football insiders has said anything. Didn't hear anything,
you know, from the Brattman, Murphy's, the Pete, the Amimls.
It wasn't until later last night in the evening when
we were discussing on the show that it finally started
to come out. And you know, not that saying other
people don't have valid information, but those are the guys,
those are the trusted sources to guys that have cut
their teeth grit, that have worked long. And you didn't
hear anything from this. You're like, Okay, is this true?
Is this drumor? But Kalani had addressed it and that
meat availabily, so it was. And he says with social
media saying that we do a good job, and I
appreciate you know, him saying that, but the pr move
as well as like, well, yeah, if you don't address it,
it is a distraction. I still don't know in my
personal opinion how it's a great distraction. I don't think
any type of distraction's good right from producing the show
and you know, doing it at the same time, like
when you're trying to manage other stuff, sometimes you might
slip up. So don't know if distractions are great, But
we'll still break it all down. Let's also welcome in
the digital content creator he on ESPN, the fan of
Cougar Sports. We got Brett always bringing the hammer. Be time,
b Hammer Time. How we doing brother, I.
Speaker 6: Don't know what you guys are doing later today, but
I'm actually on my way to go donate to Kalanie
Sataki and the all the the assistant coaches. I'm going
over to Crumble just not because I want the cookies,
but because I would like to donate to the coaching
staff into the NIL Fund.
Speaker 4: I just want that to be clear.
Speaker 3: The cookies, the cookies, Yeah, I need the cookies, and
you get my free cookies that we have. Brett, you
know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: Shout out to Jason mcgallan.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Jason mcgallan. G Man, we'll get you
in on the little you know, secret combinations insider action
of the cookies that we're talking about. We get some
free cookies. We'll discuss that later, all right. And we
also got Vic Cram on the data aggregation. Then ap
Andrew Peterson is always lurking somewhere on the radios listening,
so wherever you're tuned in as well ap I know
you're paying attention, and then Ben has eyes and ears
everywhere to give a small attendent before I get into
the rest of the starting lineup. Ben kind of reminds
me like my mom in a way. And this might
be a crazy story for you guys, but I'm going
to small, small story time from Ronald the three male Weaver.
My mom like knew a bunch of people in the
city from being a nurse and whatever, Brett sometimes and Gurney.
I would act a fool on the US or in public,
and I would get home and my mom so like,
how was today. I was like, oh, well, you never
really asked me about my dad. I was like, day's great,
practice is great, Everything was great. You know my friends
stopped by, you know, McDonald's on the way home and
did this. She's like, that's all you did. I was like, yeah,
so no shenanigans of being in the street or yelling
at people on the train, and I'm like, so, how
do you know about that? I felt like my mom
had eyes everywhere. Bro, I was always watched, and the
same applies, like whatever you say or do, we'll get
back to Ben. Benn's always watching, So like monsters, and
I know Gurney hates the mouse always watching? Was Ben
is always watching or listening? Or heavi's that. I just
wanted to tell that small story, so hope you had
to make you too, mad g Man. Rest of the
starting lineuple go As follows. We'll get into the Joey
McGuire and Coloney Sataki Big twelve media availability sound from
yesterday in the nitty gritty at three point thirty, gonna
welcome in shehn Ja Rasha National, a writer for CBS
Sports covering college football. He would join us. We would
just ask him about Cook Kaloney end up at Penn
State and what does that mean? In the Big twef
Todd again, can b YU you shock the world? A
lot of people not picking BYU. It opened up, guys
right at twelve and a half points in favor of
Texas Tech and moved up to thirteen and a half.
People believe that BYU can't win, and per the College
Football Playoff Committee, if you don't beat Texas Tech, you're
not going they say the eye test. Brett, you got
a favorite phrase that you like to say. I'm gonna
allowing you here in just a second. But Brett calls
the College Playoff Football Committee something different, and I'm starting
to agree with him more and more as he says it,
because it doesn't seem to be about resume. They like
the eye test. As Brett is going to tell you're
in a second, Jared lets So will join us at
four h five for a little college football, keeping up
with the Coopers, the former BYUI receiver, and then Jonathan
Tavnari j T for three gotta discuss some BYU basketball.
They will be an action at the Delta Center tomorrow.
Another game at the Delta Center double duty actually BAU
women's basketball tipping off at two in the men's basketball
tipping off at seven, opportunity before they go in the
road to take on Clemson next week. So that's your
ESPN starting lineup, Brett. I'm gonna turn this over to you, now,
what can you please tell the people what you refer
to the College Football Playoff Committee as you don't refer
to them as the CFP committee. You have another funny
name for these people.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, the the IOC is the Olympic Committee,
So I like to call the CFP the ETOC, the
Eye Test Olympic Committee. Because they don't actually care about
any of the analytics.
Speaker 4: They don't care about who you played, who you beat.
Speaker 6: What they care about is, well, you know what, man,
this is a really good football team. Okay, why, well,
you know just some of the things I've seen on
the field. Oh really, you mean like when Texts A
and M was down thirty to three against South Carolina.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, we're not we're not We're not talking about that.
Speaker 6: But like eye tests in the second half, man, they
looked really good. It's like that scene from Moneyball where
Billy Bean and Brad Pitt sitting in there listen to
all the guys talk about how a guy has a.
Speaker 4: Great swing, but he's batt in one oh five.
Speaker 6: Like, I just don't care about any of the numbers,
any the analytics, any of the resumes.
Speaker 4: They just care about the eye test. So I call
it the eye Test Olympic Committee.
Speaker 3: Jimmy, your thoughts on the eye Test Olympic Committee. I
love that name that Brett has given the committee.
Speaker 5: Yeah, perceptionally, b way You is having a problem that
no one's taken them seriously, and they're looking for any
reason not to take bway You seriously.
Speaker 1: I think that's become apparent.
Speaker 5: The good news is b Way he has every opportunity
to be taken seriously. But this kind of delves into
the KLNI satake thing in a s coortship with Penn
State is I think internally, I think a lot of
people that are involved with b WYU at b WYU
have that same problem where you're used to things being
a certain way, how you operate, and and you just
need to kind of remind yourself how extraordinary these last
two years of b Way football has been. B Way
you gets into the Big twelve in twenty twenty three,
get smacked in the face. Yeah, this is how it's
going to be. It's going to take a while. What
it's not taken a while last year, ye're on the
cusp of doing it. This year you're You're in the
conference championship game. B You is so far ahead of schedule.
It's really remarkable. And I don't think that's that's noticed enough,
not just outside but inside the institutions, the people that matter.
And the only thing that kind of makes you realize
this is when your head coach is a prime candidate
for the most lucrative package out there apps in.
Speaker 1: LSU to be their head coach. And that tells you, Wow,
this is extraordinary. We have this extraordinary coach.
Speaker 5: We're doing extraordinary things because the market is dictating that
the extraordinary abilities that Kilanie has and what he's done
at BYU. So we're gonna get to this comment later.
And but the most interesting comment Kilanie said is that
this is a good distraction. Okay, no coach wants any
distraction whatsoever. That's just something you want to beat down. No, no, no,
this is us. Outside world doesn't exist, but focus.
Speaker 1: Especially this week.
Speaker 5: So when Kalani actually deigns to say there's a good distraction,
are you kidding me that there's no such thing. Destructions
are never good. There's no good distraction. This is what
he's he's saying because he's seeing the wheels emotion where
the money and things are in the works to elevate
BYU two greater heights and to meet the market and
and meet certain demands, and by all all the reports out.
Speaker 1: There, this is happening b way.
Speaker 5: You putn't necessary things in gear to realize to make
this thing happen to where Kiwani can maybe reach the
point till Penn State Hey, sorry, guys, I got this.
I want BYU where forty eight hours ago that wasn't there.
And that's largely what's been going on. Penn State still
thinks it's there. Maybe maybe they'll just overwhelm and maybe
b way you won't come through. Nothing set in stone yet,
maybe it is. That's the problem with covering by US.
You never know when things are set in stone because
they don't announce certain things. Maybe they will, I don't know,
but to me, that was the most interesting thing Klannie said.
And guys, the whole prospect of him going to Penn
State is just bizarre to me. It's weird. It doesn't
seem to fit. And I don't think it's gonna happen.
I think Klane's staying at BYU, and I think Bay
is going to be that much better because you have
to look, and everyone wants.
Speaker 1: To assign certain things. Oh, j Hill's the genius, Colonna.
Speaker 5: He's just so lucky to have Jay Hill and and
and all these certain things. No, Klona is the glue
that keeps all these things together. You have to give
this guy credit, because guess who's giving him credit.
Speaker 1: Penn State.
Speaker 5: They're giving him eleven million a year credit. That's phenomenal credit.
That's his market. So hopefully people are understanding that. I
think they are now because I think Colonie's been under
estimate for most of his career and what he's done
is extraordinary. It's it's it's one of the best stories
in college football.
Speaker 1: What b whata He's been able to release the last
two years.
Speaker 5: And you have to keep that going, and you have
to even accelerate that to keep up and and hopefully.
Speaker 1: Those things are in emotion anyway, That's all I got.
Speaker 3: I thought you're actually gonna go on the longer runt.
I was expecting more. No on what g man, He's
He's full of thoughts, he's full of uh you know,
the vigor in the VIM. He's very knowledgeable. He's been
doing this for a long time. So I always sit back, relax,
strap it down. You know, White Sox baseball coming away,
if you know Kim the Hawk. Carroll said no, but
I was. I was sitting back and like, oh, oh
he's done that that fast, okay, But you're not wrong.
I agree with you, g man.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I thought that went pretty long.
Speaker 3: No, you did, but you've gone longer, but you've been
long within. You've been long winded before, but you haven't
there Anyway. The point is I agree with you, gim Man.
I just don't see a guy that just gave a
devotional who said this is his dream job? Are you
kidding me? Who is very emotional and you know, look
and when you look at BYU Athletics, and I remember
this in class, Brandon the Stain does a good job,
you know of with their video photography and the entire
team there. If you were to go back and look
at in my opinion, I think of what would be
one of the highly look that clicked on videos. It's
not gonna just be BYU football in this season. I
would believe it would be Kilanie's devotional of what he gave.
I think that would be top five, if not top
ten for sure. And I just don't believe that coach
who you know says the Polynesian lavel, his words, not
mine right when you think of the next vi second him,
I just don't see how it can end up at
Penn State, like you said, g Man, like in the
middle of nowhere in the Midwest, I know, not even
mid West is more its eastern Coast for sure, but
the Midwest Conference, the Big Ten, like Kalanie to the
Big Ten, just it doesn't feel right, It doesn't sit
well with me. Like he's BYU threw and through. When
you look at the BYU culture, when you look at
who exemplifies exactly what BYU is, you gotta put Kline's
to talking next to it. Like, I don't see how
he could just walk out the door, not even him
walking out the door. He will, he would only leave
if they if they allowed him to. But I don't
see how you couldn't retain that and how that could
be possible, And it just it would be honestly a shock,
I think to everybody if that were to be the case.
And I don't think Shane Reeves, Keith Vorkin, Brone, Santiago Andy.
I'm gonna even take it a step further and give
my own thoughts. I ain't think the Border Trustees would
allow that to happen. I would truly be generally shocked
if they let that go. And you can say he's underrated.
You can say he's undervalued. The proof is in the pudding.
You want results, you want to say we're a results
based world. May I remind you of what his record
is in the last two years in the Big Twelve.
Brett and I will discuss this more in the next
segment you'll hear from us. But look, it didn't go
so well. First, you're in the Big twelve. Okay, yeah,
what are you doing? The second, what do you doing?
Speaker 1: The third?
Speaker 3: What he's done in the last six years, four ten
one seasons. You know how hard it is to win
a football game in college football, yet alone win to
get to double digit wins. That's the man that's done
it for you. That man, mister Bubbly's so nice. You
got fans. Now you have media members, wives posting about
their sons and that and those like that. That's the
type of person that influence that Kolonie Sataki is having impacting.
How you saw the poster bear Bachmeyer kids saying hey,
there's my twin. I guarantee there's some kid that saying
Kilanie is his twin. I guarantee there saying that as well,
like Kilanie Sataki is so valuable to BYU and BYU athletics,
and it would be a disservice and it'll be a
waste if to let that go, Like the momentum that
Athletics has talked about that they built, that they feel
like they've built not just on the field, but off
the field. From a missionary standpoint as well, Kilanie is
the ultimate missionary tool. Look at how he's respected by
the conference and by the national media and everybody around
the world. We were at Big twelve meet to day.
As I heard it from Matt Berry brock Os. While
you hear from everybody, everybody, Sonny Dyke's, Chris Kleiman, Joey McGuire,
which we'll hear in just a second, everybody respects Kilane.
So if you lost Kilanie, that would be Honestly, I
don't even want to I don't want to be disrespectful
a rude, but like it's like losing, you know, the
cornerstone of bya football in a way, or one of
the cornerstones, because I can't disrespect Lavelle if you let
If you lose Kilania is like, man, I know people
saying Bou football and Bou will be okay, but it
kind of does feel like chicken little the sky is falling.
So those are my thoughts on the opinion matter. We'll
see what happens, but I think the man you know
is gonna be staying right here, and I think BYU
is gonna be better because of this. And all I
got to say is this, Look, whatever is being negotiated,
I don't know, but I'm just saying, you can't let
the basketball coach who's performed well and who has every
right to, you know, have everything well, what he's accomplished.
You have to have that in football. It drives a ship.
Those are Brian Santiago's words. So I feel like Kilani
and his staff they deserve everything. They proven it. You're
not gonna find another staff in college football that is
this united, that has been able to be together this long,
and that's what's contributed to the success. And I believe
if you let Kilanie walk, you're also gonna let them
walk and lose that as well. So you can't lose
the momentum and you can't lose Kilanie. And I don't
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we played this a little bit of a yesterday. We
can get a chance to play all of it. We're
just going to go back to the beginning to get
fans an opportunity. This is Kalanie Sataki and Joey Maguire
addressing the media and the media availability in preparation for
the Big twelve Conference championship game on Saturday.
Speaker 8: All Right, just gotta push unmute for a second. But
first of all, I just want to thank everybody on
the Zoom and express my gratitude to everybody involved. First
of all, and I speak for Brett and and Joey
when I say to how amazing it is that we
have amazing coverage from everybody involved in the media. And
then I also can speak for Joey because Joey and
I had you know, if you want me at my best,
Joey understands this.
Speaker 1: It's it's usually when we're eating.
Speaker 8: So we've had many opportunities to break bread together and
to talk, mostly because I've been really interested in him
as a leader and as as just a person all around.
I love some of the things that he's been able
to share with me about culture, and I see what
they do in their in their with their team, their program.
He as a leader has been amazing with that with
a team culture. I'm really impressed with their team, just
not just the way that they play the game. Obviously,
we went out there and played in the game in Lubbock.
Great atmosphere, great environment. Uh, not too friendly for us,
but it was. It was a really cool experience. And
and we did not show up at our best. A
lot of that had to do with Texas Tech. Texas
Tech's a complete team with a great coach, great coaching staff,
and uh, all three phases. They played amazing football. I
think they're best, the best team in the country, you know.
And so when you look at it that way, we've
got our work cutout for us. We're looking forward to
the matchup. In fact, after the game, Uh, if you
want to talk about manifesting when when when?
Speaker 1: When?
Speaker 8: Well, first of I'll go back to our dinner. When
Joey and I had dinner, we talked about this. Joey,
you remember that we talked about playing each other in
the championship game. We manifested it and and now here
we are. It's amazing they to do it against a
great person and a great friend. But then also his
team is a reflection of him and the sportsmanship and
the class.
Speaker 4: That they have.
Speaker 8: After the game, we're shaking hands. Half of the players
were saying, we'll see you guys in a few weeks.
Like the they basically respected us enough to know that
we're going to get back at this game, and it
was really cool that that, you know, that interaction for
our guys to you know, go out and play three
games and get ready to get back into this and
have another shot at it. An amazing team and so
we're we're looking forward to being at our best because
it's required of us when playing the best team in
the nation and that's Texas Tech. And so as we
go through this, we're looking forward to the matchup, looking
forward to the game altogether. You know, I'm not much
of a campaign guy for us during the season, but
after the season and looking at it, at everything, I
do believe that what would Commissioner your mark and what
Joey Maguire said that we are a player off contending
team and so looking forward to the matchup and I'm
looking forward to us both teams representing the Big Twelve in.
Speaker 1: This playoff and doing it the right way.
Speaker 8: But I do know we have some work to do
and some improvement to get to it. Seeing the film
and Texas Tech making that happen, that's going to be key.
And to end my comments, I just want to say
that being in the Big Twelve has been amazing for
our fan base and for all of kugarnation for our
team being in all the different venues. We enjoyed the
partnership in the Big Twelve, connecting with all the coaches
and then seeing all the places that we need to
play different venues. It's been amazing. Thank you for being
kind to us, and thank you for the leadership that
we see from our commissioner. Looking forward to it and
looking forward to an amazing game this weekend.
Speaker 5: Klanie is looking forward to presenting his team's best against
Texas Tech this week?
Speaker 1: Can he do that with all these distractions going around?
Speaker 5: That's the tragedy of all this is the ability of
his team. We're talking about college kids. These guys are
out there. We've seen guys tweeting, They're worried. Have they
been given as sure as the Colonne's sting. Are they
focused on the task at hand. This is the underlying
tragedy of what might unfold with all of this is
that b Way You isn't as motivated as it could
be Otherwise. What comforts me is I think BWAU has
very good senior leadership this season and very capable coaches
other than Colonia to keep them on task, but it's
still a concern for everyone involved and those assistant.
Speaker 1: Coaches, right, we're all human.
Speaker 5: B Way you absolutely has to validate itself on a
national stage if they take a twenty nine to seven stomping.
Again that everyone's narrative about BYU's true and they're not
a serious team. They were right. Pat yourself on the back.
The points spread was right in Vegas. Want a lot
of money. B Way, you your nice pat on the head,
go back and and and and.
Speaker 1: Be what we think you are.
Speaker 4: B Way.
Speaker 5: You's got to balt This is I don't want to
say it's the biggest.
Speaker 1: Game in b Way football history, but it's up there.
It's up there.
Speaker 4: You're the way said when they played the first time around.
Speaker 5: You're going to be And this one's even bigger because
you're playing for something direct.
Speaker 1: This is you're in the playoffs. Everyone no ware they're
in the playoffs.
Speaker 5: You win and you advance and you're going somewhere. You
have to show better. You have to show you belong.
You have to show all those national pundits guys, you
were wrong about us, You were one wrong. We belong.
We've made these strides. You have to validate this, and
I just hope the Ways able to do that. I
think they can if they're focused, if they're locked in,
and they give Texas Tech their best game. But man,
you have got to validate what you're claiming, the unfairness
and all that.
Speaker 1: You can't just go back. Yeah, I guess you guys
are right.
Speaker 4: Uh uh.
Speaker 5: You gotta fight this. You gotta go. And I again,
I like the senior leadership. I like the culture on
this team. There's any team that can overcome the distrection,
I believe that team is BYU. But man, it's a concern,
it's one, it's absolutely concerned.
Speaker 6: I think that what you say in your head is
different than what you say ouloud, and what you feel
in your head is different than what you feel out loud.
And so I do think that collectively, in that locker room,
they're all able to look at each other and say, hey,
we're not worried about this, We're not focused on this.
We are focused on the task at hand, and that's
beating Texas Tech. However, your subconscious might say something different.
And my guess is, if you are a human being,
and they all have a relationship with Kialanate Sataki. They
all love Kalani Sataki. There's a part of their subconscious that,
no matter how bad they want to fight, it says, man,
are we gonna have.
Speaker 4: A head coach with us on Saturday? Yeah, because what
if we don't. Look.
Speaker 6: Look, we know we have all the talent in the world.
But you lose your head coach, part of the heart,
part of the fight, part of the culture, you lose
it a little bit. And I'm not discounting this Boa
football team at all, because I think they're of all
the talent in the world. I'm not saying they're not
good enough to be Texas six. But when you lose
a big piece of the heartbeat of your team, doesn't
matter what the post on the bulletin board is there
in the locker room. What matters is reality, and the
rally out of the reality of the situation.
Speaker 1: Is you don't know if your head coach will be
there on Saturday.
Speaker 6: Because even if he says, I'm going up and say it,
but I want to stay.
Speaker 4: You may see the old miss.
Speaker 6: Situation where a BIU says, well, that's fine, you don't
want to stay, We're not gonna let you stay here
to do Christmas with the family, then you don't get
you don't get to leave for somebody else and then
come back to do Christmas with us, And so I
could see it from that point, then the other part of.
Speaker 1: Me wonders, what if all of the players.
Speaker 6: Know something that we don't, and what if they all
know Kialane's never really actually been intent on leaving or
at least what if the captain's the guy matter on
the team, what if they know. What if there was
some meeting and Clonie says, hey, look, I know you're
gonna see a lot of things. Don't worry about it,
And he doesn't say too much, but he just says,
I got it. I'm taking care of it. And maybe
it really is all just a leverage play. And if
that's the case, that, to me is the only real
scenario I see in which BYU could go into this
game while maintaining full focus. Is if somebody in their
nose Klanie's doing this for leverage, even if it hasn't
been said as in as many words, Kalanie's just trying
to do this so he can get what's best for
us and this team. Now, given everything that's on the internet,
given everyone's test messages and everyone's everything who's been leaked,
because I've had plenty sent to me, it would be
really hard for that conversation or something along those lines
to have happened and nobody found out about it. However,
if you were going to keep anything, I think it
would be team keeping it within the team. I really
don't truly know. I wabble back and forth on on
what I really think is going on here. I do
think Klanie wants to be here. I think he wants
to coach these guys. And to your point, this is
probably the biggest game in Bulu football history because this
is the only time you've ever been playing for a
guaranteed spot in a playoff that leads you to a
national championship. But to the point that you started with,
and I can't, we cannot understate overstate this enough. Do
you remember how bad You're one of the Big Twelve was?
Everyone who's listening you remember how rough year one of
the Big Twelve was, We're like, oh my god.
Speaker 8: It was.
Speaker 1: It was horrible. I remember sitting in the press box
when they played Iowa State. YEP, it was embarrassed.
Speaker 3: The first play pre Snapbreen pig Girny remember that.
Speaker 6: And and and everybody who's listening, anyone who's a BAU fan, thought,
oh man, how long is it going to be before
we are not sitting at the bottom of this conference.
Colannie said, hey, give me, not even a year will
be good. Last year you go ten and two, you're
in a tiebreaker to play for a conference championship. Unfortunately,
some things happened in Arizona States, so you don't end
up winning and getting in there. And now you're guaranteed
a spot in the Big twelve conference championship, which if
you win, you would beat one of the best teams
in all of college football and you would guarantee your
spot in the playoffs.
Speaker 4: I don't think we can overstate it. There's a lot
of noise.
Speaker 6: Right now between Kilani, between whether or not BUI gets
into the playoffs, all that good stuff. But let's remember
where we were a year or two years ago, with
this BAU football team struggling Big twelve year one. Where
we are right now, and the coaching job the Kilani
Sataki and his crew have put on cannot be overstated.
It is nothing short of incredible to see how far
they've turned this program around in the Big twelve Conference.
Speaker 3: They've turned it around for sure. Looks it's remarkable of
what they've done. I just go back to the record
twenty two and I'm pretty sure it might be twenty
three and three now, but I think it's twenty two
and three now since in the last two years. He
deserves it. He deserves everything that they've worked for. The
staff does, and they've done it with the with the
one hand tie behind their back, right. And I know
people say, oh, well, you know the honoricle is like,
there are stipulations and things that you have to find
the right type of players. Can't bring in anybody in BAU.
You have to bring in someone that fits the culture.
And he's done that and he's been able to do that,
so why not why not them? So we're gonna find
out more. But guys, we gotta go to break. But
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people always want to know why do you do cougar
bytes around with Bear Bachmeiner. That's because it's a bite.
It's a long it is literally bred a bite this man.
I think the longest answer I've seen him give is
twenty five to thirty seconds. I always say, you want
to know something, don't ask Bear shot. Don't ask the quarterback.
He's gonna be straight to the point. Now, he might
be doing a typical freshman pr train, short to the point,
but I also believe this is who Bear is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now, demember. Back in the day, LJ used to
be kind of not say too much.
Speaker 6: And now as he's grown and grown as a football
player but also grown like in the media, training and
all that stuff, and now LJ gives great answers he's
so well spoken, he's so element and again not that
Bear's not. I just don't think his brain works that way.
He's not thinking like how can I communicate to the media.
He is literally just going to answer the question that
you asked, whether it's yes, no, whatever it is. He's
not focused on giving you a great answer. He's literally
just focused on answering your question.
Speaker 3: That is it, That is it? That is all. How
to do how to do typic, gip of the cap,
That's what Bart Bachmeyer is, That's what he does. So
I just want to always make that clear. That's why
kogerybody's straight to the point. But look, I think he
is gonna get better in the media. Kind of like
Jaron Hall, same thing kind of happened. So look, give
them time, give them time and all will work out.
But gonna get into this Bear bachmeers on. He addressed
everything in the post game in regards to bo He's
forty one to twenty one win over UCF. Look, it
was a scary performance in that first quarter, and you
can't really say, oh, they had him in the first half.
They had him in the first quarter, but man, not
the start that you want to see. We said it
yesterday in a couple of segments. We'll say it again today.
If you start that slow against Texas Tech, boy, oh me,
oh my, oh me, oh my, it's not gonna look
good for you. Those that are NBA basketball fans will
understand that right there. Anyway, let's get into the questions.
This is where the questions that myself and other media
members asked Bear Backmeyer in the post game. Let's start
with number one.
Speaker 1: Bear.
Speaker 3: Last year, Bo, you came up short getting to the
title game. What does it mean to get to the
title game this year?
Speaker 9: Yeah, it means a lot, and especially on on Senior Day.
And yeah, I mean we've worked so hard and just
to see the hard work payoff. But but you know,
we know, we know we got a big ask, hen
and we we gotta we gotta go to tack.
Speaker 3: All right, that was Bear Bachmeyer there. But we got
some breaking news.
Speaker 1: Guys.
Speaker 3: We're gonna shift gears, actually gonna switch things up. We
are not gonna continue this sound. I'm gonna play the
music for you.
Speaker 1: Breaking news.
Speaker 4: Exactly right now.
Speaker 3: That he intended to stay at the School of Brett
Ben Alternati on you guys, your reaction to the news.
Speaker 6: I mean, look, I I honestly didn't think we were
gonna get a decision this fast, But I'm.
Speaker 4: Really happy that we did.
Speaker 6: Because the longer that this went on, to me, the
worst your odds of winning and ERA in Dallas are
on Saturday, the longer your subconscious lingers about whether or
not Klonie's stockey is still gonna be there. So the
fact that we got an announcement today from Pete thambl
that Kloni Stocky intense state is awesome. It all so
to me signifies that Jason McGowan and whoever else hopped
on board to say, hey, what do we have to
do to keep Kialani here? Whatever push they made, because
again from flight records, we were pretty sure that he
was in state college. We were pretty sure Penn State
was pretty close to getting him. So this all says
to me, by you made a significant push to do
whatever it was to meet whatever demands that Kilani had
to bring him back. And again, I love that Kilani
didn't waste time in making this decision because say what
you will, obviously we talked about yesterday. Like, I don't
fault Kilani at all for making this decision for potentially
wanting to go somewhere where he is maybe paid more.
Speaker 4: I don't fault him at all for that. But Kilanie
is also.
Speaker 6: The type of guy who cares about everybody else, And
to me, the fact that he made this decision as
fast as he possibly could, despite having to sit to
a press conference yesterday for the Big twelve Championship says
so much more about Kilanie's character that he didn't want
to drag down his entire team to getting bogged down
through rumors in the Internet and all of those things
that he was willing to say, Hey, I gotta make
a decision.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna need like I'm gonna need BYU.
Speaker 6: To do the best you can and let me know
what you can do so that I can make this decision.
So shout out to Kilane for getting this done on
a Tuesday.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's great, right, I'm not surprised by
this at all. In the words of the great Nick Wright,
never a doubt, Never a doubt. BYU coach Kilaney has
begun to inform people that he intends to stay at
the school. Boa was in the process of putting together
a lucrative contract to keep him he's been one of
the main targets at Penn State, which he informed of
his decision two day. Kilani is a BYU guy threw
and through always felt like BYU was gonna keep him,
retain him. But look, at the end of the day,
this is gonna be a conversation. Like I said with
Kevin Young, KLINI being and poach is a good thing.
And lets you know, for national wise, for Boa get
into the college football playoffs. I think this is all good.
That he has good coaching, He's got a great coaching staff,
he's got good recruits, this is a great program. But
he is here to stay and he should be in
Letting him go and watching him go out the door
would just be a disservice. I think to everything that's
been built, like you think of what Lavelle did. Klanie's
that next guy. Like I said it a long time
ago when I first got on the air way, I
think Klanie will end up being with Kyle Whittingham was
the Utah. I see Kalani being here twenty years and
I don't think he wants to go anywhere else. When
a guy says, in his own words, my dream job
are you kidding me, And I get chills when I
say that, Like I really feel the spirit and I'm
not trying to get all spiritual. When a guy says
that he does not going to say anything, he doesn't
mean Klanie's not that type of guy. He's very genuine
and I'm very grateful that Byu Purpe Damio sounds like
that they this is going to be a done deal
and locking him in. Those are my thoughts on this situation.
This is a glorious day in Kugar Nations. Not done yet,
but it will get to that point. But this is
headed in the right direction. And now you can focus
on bringing home that Big twelve conference championship and getting
to the college football playoffs. And that would be a
validation if that would happen. If Colonie were to take
BYU on Saturday and get the title and bring it
back to Provo, that validates everything that has happened in
that deal. So wishing in the best and good luck.
I'm gonna turn it back over.
Speaker 4: To ben Yo. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, all
the fans of Cougar Nation, the Royal Army. Baby, you
guys rallied you guys, you guys duels, you guys booied
it up. Look, you got to give credit where credit
is do This is a lot of people deserve a
lot of credit here, and I want to give credit
to everybody that that deserves it here. I'll say this much.
The chronology of the events is one that I wouldn't
want to experience. Like I don't like the timing of it.
I don't like the drama. I don't like the noise,
I don't like the distraction. But I do believe there
is there is value and merit to letting it play
out as it did and putting BYU it's essentially is
its executive decision making committee. Brian Santiago, the ad Shane
reached the President, Keith or King, the VP of Advancement,
and Elder Gilbert into a situation where they had to
engage and truly evaluate what they wanted for the future
of their football program, who they want to lead their
football program. And unless there's like a sense of vergion,
sometimes I feel like we are way too reactionary in
at BYU, Like we're wait, why are we not proactive?
I made the point last night in my piece on
KSL dot com. We knew, we saw attrition in the
head coaching world back in October. October twelfth, I think
is when James Franklin was dismissed. Okay, was fired like
three four five days after that. You know what happened.
Kirk Signetti signs a deal, anyone, Matt Ruhle signs a
deal on extension, anyone that had momentum at that time,
and their organization, their athletic department, saw future with they
engage in conversation and they said, you know what, we
want to make sure you're happy. Let's get you signed
with an extension long term and give you a pay raise,
give you the rea, what do you need? What do
you want? And we didn't do that. It didn't have
to come to this. Now, is it Euphork? Is it exciting?
Was the last forty eight hours leading up to this
announcement dramatic?
Speaker 9: Sure?
Speaker 4: Was it entertaining? Yes? It's the cardiac Koogs. We call
him that for a reason. Our quarters all levels skyrocket
and we're like, no, what are we doing? What's that
we're gonna lose? It's that all like that meme that
shows like the front end of a horse, you know,
or the it's like a drawing and then it like
it gets worse as it goes on. It's just the
inverse of that. It was worse and then it it
turned into a beautiful horse, a tongue and horse, if
you will. By the way, Louis Lapol eats horse. I
you know, you look at that on his bio. Shout
out to Louis at any rate. So the chronology of
these events, what happened since October twelfth, Well, Penn State
as a study was on the prow looking for great coaches.
Kurt probably was a part of that. Matt Rule was
a part of that. They've been reaching out to prominent
figures in the coaching world for a while. Guess who
else got a call in October after they swung and miss.
Probably late October is when Kalani got the first call
and an evow okay from mister Kraft, Hey, would you
be interested? Uh, you know, we'll see, Like, of course
I'd be interested. Like some of the things I've read
from the other side of the realm, and I've chatted
with Matt Brown, I've had interaction with espn okay, I've
had interactions with Brett McMurphy just via text and over
the phone and if going to the two four seven
message board of Penn State. The messaging was this is
like Penn State would be Kilanie's dream job. Having unlimited resources,
having everything that Penn State could provide would be a
perfect scenario for Kilanie. And they would bring in coaches,
They would retain a few coaches that have recruiting tentacles
across the northeast, and the plan was laid. Okay, there
was conversation, but so what did Kilanie do with that information?
Knowing that there was warmth, there was mutual interest, what
do you think he did? He went to the BYU
brass and said, hey, this is where we're at. I'm
getting I'm receiving interest from other schools. Do you remember
not just just a few years ago after the twenty
twenty one season Oregon USC Washington, there were a lot
of jobs that were reaching out to him and he interviewed.
And what did he get. He got an extension and
probably a pay raise. Not just for himself. He's typically
advocating for who his staff to create a championship program
and nil support, support from the donors, et cetera. So
this has happened before. I hate to say it, but
by you doesn't move unless there is turmoil and a
catalyst and leverage Leverridge. Why do we have to be
this way? Why do we have to move and jump
only when someone's twisting our arm. It shouldn't be this way.
We're Brigham Young Universe. We are no longer the stepping stone. Okay,
we are no longer a low level athletic department and
football program. We're in year three of the Big twelve.
We don't We didn't have to do it this way,
is when I'm getting at We didn't have to have
the drama. Was it beautifully executed by maybe the agents
and Kilanie and everyone that was involved on in the
donors rallying, Sure, but it didn't have to come to this.
I don't think Kilani needed to be you know, he
didn't have to have these debates and conversations with the
brass and with donors and other things. And I don't
think it had to lean up to this dramatic climax,
even though it's you for work in this glorious and
the celestial and we're all celebrating, we're high fiving, everyone's
at their workplace, like we got her guy. You know
he's got the old uh you know, the Wolf of
Wall Street Mike, like Leonardo Dicapri.
Speaker 1: I'm not leaving.
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not freaking leaving. I need that, by
the way, and get the edited version. Have you guys
seen woof of Wall Street before? If you haven't, you
need to just get the edited Angel or the Angel
Flicks version of it. Yeah, Okay, I still feel I
still feel sad. You can't watch you can't. You can't
watch it unless you served a mission. You know that's
the rule. But I'm not leaving. I'm not freaking leaving.
It didn't need to come to this. We didn't have
to do this, And that's maybe what my frustration is
in all this. I'm celebratory, I'm happy, but like, we
shouldn't have to have an an eight figure sum given
to an offer given to Koloni stake in order to
think that he he has serious suitors. He has serious
people reaching out to him in serious schools reaching out
to him to offer him more money, more resources, more support,
more nil support in order to obtain his talents.
Speaker 6: So I do have a little bit of official note
that we can add to this story. Pete Nakos is
reporting BYU is quote committing to ten to fifteen million
dollars of nil on top of revenue sharing. The new
deal is currently expected to pay Sataki roughly nine to
nine and a half million annually over the deal. Just
for context, Lane Kiffen is making thirteen million dollars a year,
so this really is pushing him towards the upper echelon of.
Speaker 4: High paid coaches.
Speaker 6: But we now have some official numbers from Pete Nakos from.
Speaker 4: My reports, and I haven't tweeted this out. Initial conversations
like this, Like I said, I gave you numbers, like
I think Kilani and k Y are making the same amount, Okay,
I think they're making abrupt on the same amount before
or now they were making the same amount before this, Okay,
four and a half five million, depending on the incentive. Yeah, right,
And that's where that's what's been reported officially from from
sources outside of BYU, except because they're never going to
divulge the official race. And now where's Ky after that extension,
I'm not sure, but up to that point, it's roughly
the same amount. We all know that there's an incongruency there,
like the head coach of football should make more money
and we should find a way to do that. I
think it started off. I bet you it started off
in October with a lower rate. I don't think it
was nine million. I don't think it was that amount.
I really don't why, because there wasn't necessarily an official
offer on the table for Kilani. What would Colotti come with? Well,
what's the fair market rate for maybe a P four
head coach? Well, you know, seven million, six and a
half seven million. I feel comfortable with that. Well, I
don't know if we can do that. I don't know
if we can because it would have been done most likely,
and then it could have elevated. Well, as you get
closer and you became more confident and agents become more confident,
it's like, well, guess what, Like this price may go up.
You know what I mean about leverage. This price may
go up the more offers you have in hand. And
once again, we shouldn't have to be leveraged. I'm seeing
it in real time play out here. I just didn't
think it would.
Speaker 1: Come to this.
Speaker 4: I really didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't either.
Speaker 4: I didn't think it would come to this. It got
to the point where I was told eight million. Well
guess what happened. Penn State came in with a massive
offer and unlimited spending. Okay unlimited. Essentially they are willing
to to to go all in on rev Share and
I all support. They just wanted Colonie and they wanted
his staff. They wanted by you, as Brady Pepinka told
us yesterday, and so the the investment went up. Like
once you determine market rate and what the value is
of who you have, you begin to scramble. And what
happened was like there should have been over the last
month this type of sense of urgency, and it didn't
have to lead up to well, WI, will we do this?
If you get to the Big twelve championship game? Will
I do this? If you don't lose games, will I
do this? I understand the methodology of that. You know,
it's like, well, if you hit quota, then we'll have
that discussion. But if he gets quota, you're bonusing him.
You just bonused him, so in the quest to save money,
you ended up having to spend more money. You probably
could have locked him in for a lower rate, is
what I'm getting at and he probably would have bought
it because he's the Polynesian level. He wants to stick around. Now.
Good thing for Koloney and his agent, like to me,
they're always advocating for their coaches, that they're always advocating
for their players, and so they're requesting market rate for
himself but also market rate for coaches and market rate
for the players. And like I said, Brian Santiaius, the
one that set the bar, Brian Shane and Keith and
Elder Gilbert set the bar for basketball. Once you did that,
then yeah, to antie up as it related to football,
why because football drives the ship. Football drives the ship, period, Right,
you write the check, you gotta, you gotta Casketball drives
the ship. So you probably could have got him for
a lower rate. I truly believe this had had we
been a little bit more proactive than reactive and not
set the quote of like, well, if you get there,
then we'll have that discussion if you have leverage. So
I'm just I guess I'm happy, but I'm also like,
we didn't have to go through all this. We didn't
have to go through all this rigamar role. We didn't
have to go through all this process and procedure, and
we could have been proactive for the last month and
figured this out and not come to the the final
week right before signing day, the early signing period. That's
why they got it done. And I think you bring
up some good points as it relates to just the
timeliness of this. Yeah, you have the priority number one
big tal championship. You have a champion. You have a
chance to have a monumental season that Bay has never experienced.
They'd never gotten over the hump. And it's very difficult
to beat a team twice in a college football season. Yes,
UCLA found out that out in two thousand and seven
going up against us. They beat us at their place,
and then we got on a neutral field and we
beat them. So it's hard to do. Now we're gonna
be on a neutral field. They got us at their place.
Now we're gonna be on a neutral field and we'll
see how it plays out. Furthermore, you have a one
of the you have a top twenty five signing class
commit class. And how much attrition would we have experienced. Okay,
if you let Kilanie go to Penn State, now you
would have had a fail safe to a degree, and
a good coaching staff retained in some way, shape or form,
whoever that may had depending on who went and who
you probably like, I was hearing a number of things, right,
So you know, Killani was trying to bring his entire
staff over minus maybe a few key coaches that have connections,
recruiting wise, institutional knowledge, all that stuff to ease the
bird and ease the pain, right, But he was trying
to bring Jay Hill with them. And on three Brett
McMurphy p NA Goes. Both both of them reported that
they were trying to bring Jay Hill. So everyone that
was like, well, Jay Hill's gonna stick it out, He's
gonna stay here. Yeah, maybe he would have, you know,
with an offer, and it had been at a lower
rate than what she just gave Kilane most likely. But realize,
you're once again, you're in the big boys club. Now
that rate, whether it's this year or next year or
the following year, is going to continue to go up
because you're playing big boy football. You're not gonna going
to be capable of underpaying year over year over year.
Like eventually you had to make a decision and bring
in k Y because you want to win. You had
to you had to build an NBA staff, you had
to you had to have a robust nil offering. Okay,
you just had to do that in order to stay competitive,
state relevant, and ultimately win. Right.
Speaker 6: So, for context, James Franklin's current contract with the Penn
State before he got fired was eight to eight and
a half million eight and a.
Speaker 4: Half million, right, So you could have retained j and
you probably could have got out. You could have retained
maybe a Ron, but a Rod probably goes with Kilane
most likely. And then who do you go get? Well,
you can try to go get Jason back up at Utah,
you know, if you want to go acquire some good
offensive talent. He's a BYU guy. He's at Utah. He
just had one of the best offensive seasons in college football.
You probably could have brought him in with you know,
guys like Marciottawaia, etc. Like these are these are probably
strategies that internally the executive committee's looking at. So but
still like there would have been attrition of the roster.
Yeah there, you don't think if you polled, if you
survey monkey, if you qual tricks the football team, and
you said if Kolani goes to Penn State, will you
go with him? What percentage would like to go with him?
If Kilani and the and the staff that's leaving wanted
those players, I bet your over half would want to
go with them. There's some that loot institutionally BYU is
BYU and they retained a lot. And there's an idea
that has germinated for a long time, and I do
believe there's some truth to it that no matter who
coaches at BYU. Okay, and I heard this during the
Bronkomenden Hall Tom homo Era that no matter who's coaching BYU, BYU,
the brand is bigger than any coach, right, and you
attract certain types of players that are high level players
no matter who's coaching. Sure, no matter who the position coaches,
no matter who the head coaches, no matter who the
offense or defense. There's truth in that. And you can
win eight games a season with that BYU brand equity,
the blocks, the bricks that have been built by Lavelle
Edwards and all this, all the staff from nineteen seventy
two to present day, there's there's there's there's obvious truth to.
Speaker 6: That and the brand means even more because this is
the first time you've been in a power conference.
Speaker 4: Means even more now. Yep. So, but you would still
experience impactful attrition. Yeah, had you let Kilane leave and
and I think that was probably evidence when an official
offer was on the table and a handshake deal was
ultimately given and Klanie said, I'm all in. I just
have to go tell BYU and he told BYU and
that's when BYU finally circled the wagons and they reacted,
and and influential people Elder Rasband had to get involved,
Paddy Edwards had to get involved. Brian's pulling out all stops,
contacting every single donor of prominence, of rapport, of influence
and saying, hey, can you step up, can you do this?
We don't want to lose Kilani and bravo O'Bryant, like
for you know, final hour, last minute, like you have
an offer from Penn State pending on on Kilanie's desk
waiting to sign. He's probably showed it to him. They've
had a meeting on Sunday, they probably reconvened on Monday,
and lo and behold, they got the deal done. And
it's been reported Kilani's staying home. He's not leaving. He's
gonna be the Polneser levelle Edwards. Some people think the
repercussion for this is you could lose Jay Hill because
he eventually wants to be a head coach.
Speaker 6: I don't know, but maybe he got paid more because
of this deal.
Speaker 4: You could say, look like you can try to still
retain Jay you did last season. I believe Jay had
the job at Utah State before Bronco did. That's what
I believe. And so what does Bronco Manerhal make He
makes two million? Well, if Bronco Manderhal's making two million,
I would say that Jay Hill's probably making two million,
which makes him a very highly paid. Look up the
highest paid assistant coaches in college football. For me, Jay
Hill's one of the highest paid assistant coaches I think
in college football. So you met that need and you're
retained him. Now, will Jay continue to be at BYU,
I don't know, Maybe wants to be a head coach.
What's one of the highest paid assistant coaches right now?
Speaker 6: So the highest paid assistant we talked about yesterday Jim Knowles,
defensive coordinator who was at Penn State yep. Mike den
Brockett Notre Dame offensive coordinator making two million, Garrett Riley
at Clemson offensive quarter making two million, Ryan Grubb at
Washington OC making two Glenn Schuman the DC at Georgia
he's making one point nine, so and then Tommy Reese
at Alabama OC in one point nine, Kevin Steele at
Alabama DC making one point nine. So the top guys
are making two million.
Speaker 4: Basically, I'm tony that's probably what he's making, especially if
he had an offer on the tim from Utah State,
which would have been roughly two million dollars. So I
think you can retain Jay. You guys did show him
the vision of what being a b YU guys all about.
I don't know if you know j J just wants
to be a head coach. I think if I was
going to value Jay, I think he wants to be
a head coach. And so bravo to'brian and Shane and
Keith for retaining him and not letting him march down
the street to be the Utah State head coach. He
could get P four jobs in the future, and he
maybe that's where he goes. He could get. You know,
you get you you have another season like you have
this this uh this season, and these donors from around
the country are gonna say, well, BYU's cooking up something
really special. Let's go get Jay Hill because we know
we're probably not getting Kilani now right, let's go get
And that's what you see, Like you see the offensive
coordinator for Oregon get the call up, right, you see
defensive coordinator for Clemson once again, like you know, get
the call up to Oklahoma. You know what I mean?
You see these DC's and o c's typically get the
call up, and that could happen in the near future.
But you also have to have a pipeline of different
DC's and ocs that have connections. But they don't have
to be lds. Remember Jeff Grimes, not Olds. Christian Man
came to BYU from LSU. Remember the figurehead for football basketball.
I think they typically have to be card carry and
Latter Day Saints going Temple recommends all that stuff. But
your coordinators don't, your position coach don't. They just have
to get the ecclesiastical endorsement and sign up for the
honor Code. So just because you could potentially lose Jay
Hill down there because he wants to be a head
coach does not mean you know that you're gonna all
of a sudden drop off like you know on on
the defensive side of the ball. I don't. I don't
see that happening. I think you have some very talented
individuals in the pipeline. Now. I want to keep j
like pay him what it's worth to keep him. But
he may have aspirations to be a head coach. There
could be other guys on the staff that have aspirations
to become head coaches. And you want to funnel that.
You wanna, you wanna you you want to foster that. Yeah,
you know as well, And you want to have a pipeline.
You you really do. But I'm not believing show goes.
This is my home.
Speaker 3: Took me a second, final clean version, but I got it. Guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, buddy byu coach has begun to four people that
he intends to stay at the school by using process
of putting together a lucrative contract to keep him. Uh,
he's been in one. He's been one of many targets,
one of the main targets at Penn State, which he
informed of his decision today. So yeah, the feedback that
I got yesterday was there was another meeting between Brian
and in Kilani and the reaction was essentially, let's get
to work, let's focus on football, you know, after the
media availability, et cetera. It's let's get to work, let's
focus on the Bigel Championship. Let's let's It was one
of optimism that they were figuring it out and they
provided an offering probably last night that that Kilanie could
could could buy into the investment. The action, not words,
but actions. You know as well as I do. Everyone
knows it's not what you say, it's what you do.
What are you willing to do? And was it at
the eleventh hour? Yes, I don't like that. But sometimes
by needs their arm twisted a little bit to react.
They think everybody is just going to be like, I'm
willing and ready just to like do whatever you guys say.
You guys are the you guys are the administrators. You
guys have been called to lead, right we put trust
in our leadership. Is that not our culture? Yeah, we
file in and we are part of that chain of
command and that's a good thing within the culture for
the most part. But in this situation, you know, sometimes
you may have to twist an armor to I hope
it changes. I hope you know you don't have to
twist arms anymore in order to see value. I hope
you don't need offers on the table from competing entities
in order to see value. Does that make sense? Like
that's where I have a bit of weeping waving and
Ashton teeth and like we don't have to make it
this way. We don't have to do it this way,
and we don't have to underpay. I will continue to
hit home. I think one of the most the most
powerful questions that we're ever at in our temple interviews. Okay,
I know I get a little spiritual here. Are you
honest in your dealings with your fellow man?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: You've heard that question before. I think paying fair market
rate for an honest day's work, that that requires a
lot of stress, A figurehead, a voice of ambassador, ambassadorial
discipleship of the university and of the Church of Jesus Christ,
a letter saints. I believe that's worth something. I really
believe it's worth something. And market rate, in my opinion,
fair market rate is the honest thing to do in
these situations. You know what I mean, everyone thinks the
filthy lucre is a hiss and a byeword. No, it's okay.
We can pay people. We can pay people their fair
market rate. We can be fair in our dealings and
not say well, but you're at BYU. What's the delta? Right?
What's the what's the reduction in pay you're willing to
take in order to be at BYU in order to
have a little bit more balance sundays off right?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: Like a little bit your why means more here and
you get to be a part of the BYU brand.
There's that delta or that that reduction in pay. You
know there there is there is an element of that.
But we can't be so far off, especially when we've
already set the standard with the other and the other
flagship program within our school the way you basketball. So
to me on the present, if you didn't do it,
if you did, if you were fair amongst all of it,
Like it's just like everyone gets a reduction to pay
and it's a little bit lower. That would have been
fine because that's the standard. But as soon as you
set that standard, okay, now you're gonna have to meet it. Yep.
Now you're gonna have to meet it, especially for your
flagship PROG. All right, I've gone off on a tangent.
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