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tape as Ben, what's that you recognize the voice of

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course Ronald three man Weaver. Here, I'll introduce my co

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host you momentarily. Ben will be here in the second

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hour dealing with a little bit of an emergency that

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today's co host that we have and as well as

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the rest of the starstard cast we have for a Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: We're in the month of December.

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Speaker 3: Holiday seasons, Happy holidays. Let's welcome in the guy that

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represents the Daily Herald. He hopefully he's in a good mood,

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a good holiday season, Thanksgiving. He doesn't like the mouse,

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but I know he likes the holidays. I need to

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know how his Thanksgiving. When we got Brandon see journey,

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g Man, how are you doing today?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Why do you and Ben.

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Speaker 1: Always do that?

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Speaker 5: You always try to gauge my mood like I'm gonna

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come in like some.

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Speaker 1: Or behemoth type dog. Good. No, I am fired up,

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I'm excited.

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Speaker 5: I've been paralyzed on my couch for literally the last

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few days trying to queen follow everything that's been going on.

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This is amazing what's transpired in the last forty eight hours.

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Speaker 1: What's frustrating is there's nothing really a substance where you

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could go good enough. Okay, this is definitely something that happened,

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But I have a lot of thoughts on this.

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Speaker 5: A lot of things have become clear over the last

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few hours. And my goodness, karnis taka God bless you man.

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That's all I'm gonna say so. So anyway, we're gonna

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talk a lot more about this very very intriguing things

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going on. I think a lot of some kind of

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secret nuggets. I think we're revealed by Kilani in that

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Big twelve press conference. And yeah, I'm excited to talk

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about all of that very interesting things going on with

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Bayau football perceptually and foundationally.

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Speaker 1: That it's gonna be a net positive, I believe. So anyway,

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glad to be here.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be a net positive.

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Speaker 1: For sure.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get into that sound hopefully here in the

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nitty gritty. I know, last time we had g Man,

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we went on a long tangent. It was a good tangent,

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a good rant, good content. But we'll see if we're

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able to get make it to that Kalani Sataki and

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Joey MacGuire sound. They both addressed the media yesterday in

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preparation for the Big to Championship game on Saturday. G

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Kilani and Penn State. And it was interesting because you

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hear this from you know, a source online and nobody

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from really up until yesterday, from the national media, from

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the college football insiders has said anything. Didn't hear anything,

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you know, from the Brattman, Murphy's, the Pete, the Amimls.

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to come out. And you know, not that saying other

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people don't have valid information, but those are the guys,

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those are the trusted sources to guys that have cut

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their teeth grit, that have worked long. And you didn't

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hear anything from this. You're like, Okay, is this true?

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Is this drumor? But Kalani had addressed it and that

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meat availabily, so it was. And he says with social

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media saying that we do a good job, and I

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appreciate you know, him saying that, but the pr move

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as well as like, well, yeah, if you don't address it,

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it is a distraction. I still don't know in my

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personal opinion how it's a great distraction. I don't think

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any type of distraction's good right from producing the show

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and you know, doing it at the same time, like

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when you're trying to manage other stuff, sometimes you might

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slip up. So don't know if distractions are great, But

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we'll still break it all down. Let's also welcome in

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the digital content creator he on ESPN, the fan of

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Cougar Sports. We got Brett always bringing the hammer. Be time,

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b Hammer Time. How we doing brother, I.

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Speaker 6: Don't know what you guys are doing later today, but

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I'm actually on my way to go donate to Kalanie

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Sataki and the all the the assistant coaches. I'm going

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over to Crumble just not because I want the cookies,

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but because I would like to donate to the coaching

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staff into the NIL Fund.

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Speaker 4: I just want that to be clear.

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Speaker 3: The cookies, the cookies, Yeah, I need the cookies, and

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you get my free cookies that we have. Brett, you

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know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to Jason mcgallan.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Jason mcgallan. G Man, we'll get you

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in on the little you know, secret combinations insider action

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of the cookies that we're talking about. We get some

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free cookies. We'll discuss that later, all right. And we

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also got Vic Cram on the data aggregation. Then ap

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Andrew Peterson is always lurking somewhere on the radios listening,

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so wherever you're tuned in as well ap I know

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you're paying attention, and then Ben has eyes and ears

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everywhere to give a small attendent before I get into

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the rest of the starting lineup. Ben kind of reminds

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me like my mom in a way. And this might

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be a crazy story for you guys, but I'm going

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to small, small story time from Ronald the three male Weaver.

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My mom like knew a bunch of people in the

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city from being a nurse and whatever, Brett sometimes and Gurney.

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I would act a fool on the US or in public,

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and I would get home and my mom so like,

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how was today. I was like, oh, well, you never

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really asked me about my dad. I was like, day's great,

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practice is great, Everything was great. You know my friends

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stopped by, you know, McDonald's on the way home and

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did this. She's like, that's all you did. I was like, yeah,

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so no shenanigans of being in the street or yelling

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at people on the train, and I'm like, so, how

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do you know about that? I felt like my mom

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had eyes everywhere. Bro, I was always watched, and the

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same applies, like whatever you say or do, we'll get

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back to Ben. Benn's always watching, So like monsters, and

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I know Gurney hates the mouse always watching? Was Ben

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is always watching or listening? Or heavi's that. I just

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wanted to tell that small story, so hope you had

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to make you too, mad g Man. Rest of the

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starting lineuple go As follows. We'll get into the Joey

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McGuire and Coloney Sataki Big twelve media availability sound from

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yesterday in the nitty gritty at three point thirty, gonna

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welcome in shehn Ja Rasha National, a writer for CBS

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Sports covering college football. He would join us. We would

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just ask him about Cook Kaloney end up at Penn

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State and what does that mean? In the Big twef

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Todd again, can b YU you shock the world? A

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lot of people not picking BYU. It opened up, guys

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right at twelve and a half points in favor of

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Texas Tech and moved up to thirteen and a half.

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People believe that BYU can't win, and per the College

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Football Playoff Committee, if you don't beat Texas Tech, you're

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not going they say the eye test. Brett, you got

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a favorite phrase that you like to say. I'm gonna

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allowing you here in just a second. But Brett calls

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the College Playoff Football Committee something different, and I'm starting

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to agree with him more and more as he says it,

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because it doesn't seem to be about resume. They like

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the eye test. As Brett is going to tell you're

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in a second, Jared lets So will join us at

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four h five for a little college football, keeping up

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Tavnari j T for three gotta discuss some BYU basketball.

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They will be an action at the Delta Center tomorrow.

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Another game at the Delta Center double duty actually BAU

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women's basketball tipping off at two in the men's basketball

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tipping off at seven, opportunity before they go in the

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road to take on Clemson next week. So that's your

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ESPN starting lineup, Brett. I'm gonna turn this over to you, now,

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what can you please tell the people what you refer

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to the College Football Playoff Committee as you don't refer

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to them as the CFP committee. You have another funny

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name for these people.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, the the IOC is the Olympic Committee,

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So I like to call the CFP the ETOC, the

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Eye Test Olympic Committee. Because they don't actually care about

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any of the analytics.

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Speaker 4: They don't care about who you played, who you beat.

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Speaker 6: What they care about is, well, you know what, man,

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this is a really good football team. Okay, why, well,

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you know just some of the things I've seen on

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the field. Oh really, you mean like when Texts A

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and M was down thirty to three against South Carolina.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, we're not we're not We're not talking about that.

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Speaker 6: But like eye tests in the second half, man, they

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looked really good. It's like that scene from Moneyball where

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Billy Bean and Brad Pitt sitting in there listen to

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all the guys talk about how a guy has a.

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Speaker 4: Great swing, but he's batt in one oh five.

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Speaker 6: Like, I just don't care about any of the numbers,

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any the analytics, any of the resumes.

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Speaker 4: They just care about the eye test. So I call

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it the eye Test Olympic Committee.

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Speaker 3: Jimmy, your thoughts on the eye Test Olympic Committee. I

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love that name that Brett has given the committee.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, perceptionally, b way You is having a problem that

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no one's taken them seriously, and they're looking for any

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reason not to take bway You seriously.

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Speaker 1: I think that's become apparent.

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Speaker 5: The good news is b Way he has every opportunity

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to be taken seriously. But this kind of delves into

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the KLNI satake thing in a s coortship with Penn

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State is I think internally, I think a lot of

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people that are involved with b WYU at b WYU

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have that same problem where you're used to things being

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a certain way, how you operate, and and you just

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need to kind of remind yourself how extraordinary these last

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two years of b Way football has been. B Way

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you gets into the Big twelve in twenty twenty three,

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get smacked in the face. Yeah, this is how it's

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going to be. It's going to take a while. What

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it's not taken a while last year, ye're on the

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cusp of doing it. This year you're You're in the

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conference championship game. B You is so far ahead of schedule.

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this is when your head coach is a prime candidate

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for the most lucrative package out there apps in.

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Speaker 1: LSU to be their head coach. And that tells you, Wow,

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this is extraordinary. We have this extraordinary coach.

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Speaker 5: We're doing extraordinary things because the market is dictating that

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the extraordinary abilities that Kilanie has and what he's done

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at BYU. So we're gonna get to this comment later.

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And but the most interesting comment Kilanie said is that

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this is a good distraction. Okay, no coach wants any

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distraction whatsoever. That's just something you want to beat down. No, no, no,

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this is us. Outside world doesn't exist, but focus.

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Speaker 1: Especially this week.

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Speaker 5: So when Kalani actually deigns to say there's a good distraction,

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are you kidding me that there's no such thing. Destructions

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are never good. There's no good distraction. This is what

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he's he's saying because he's seeing the wheels emotion where

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the money and things are in the works to elevate

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BYU two greater heights and to meet the market and

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and meet certain demands, and by all all the reports out.

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Speaker 1: There, this is happening b way.

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Speaker 5: You putn't necessary things in gear to realize to make

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this thing happen to where Kiwani can maybe reach the

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point till Penn State Hey, sorry, guys, I got this.

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I want BYU where forty eight hours ago that wasn't there.

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And that's largely what's been going on. Penn State still

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thinks it's there. Maybe maybe they'll just overwhelm and maybe

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b way you won't come through. Nothing set in stone yet,

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maybe it is. That's the problem with covering by US.

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You never know when things are set in stone because

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they don't announce certain things. Maybe they will, I don't know,

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but to me, that was the most interesting thing Klannie said.

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And guys, the whole prospect of him going to Penn

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State is just bizarre to me. It's weird. It doesn't

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seem to fit. And I don't think it's gonna happen.

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I think Klane's staying at BYU, and I think Bay

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is going to be that much better because you have

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to look, and everyone wants.

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Speaker 1: To assign certain things. Oh, j Hill's the genius, Colonna.

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Speaker 5: He's just so lucky to have Jay Hill and and

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and all these certain things. No, Klona is the glue

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that keeps all these things together. You have to give

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this guy credit, because guess who's giving him credit.

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Speaker 1: Penn State.

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Speaker 5: They're giving him eleven million a year credit. That's phenomenal credit.

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That's his market. So hopefully people are understanding that. I

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think they are now because I think Colonie's been under

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estimate for most of his career and what he's done

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is extraordinary. It's it's it's one of the best stories

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in college football.

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Speaker 1: What b whata He's been able to release the last

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two years.

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Speaker 5: And you have to keep that going, and you have

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to even accelerate that to keep up and and hopefully.

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Speaker 1: Those things are in emotion anyway, That's all I got.

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Speaker 3: I thought you're actually gonna go on the longer runt.

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I was expecting more. No on what g man, He's

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He's full of thoughts, he's full of uh you know,

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the vigor in the VIM. He's very knowledgeable. He's been

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doing this for a long time. So I always sit back, relax,

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strap it down. You know, White Sox baseball coming away,

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if you know Kim the Hawk. Carroll said no, but

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I was. I was sitting back and like, oh, oh

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he's done that that fast, okay, But you're not wrong.

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I agree with you, g man.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I thought that went pretty long.

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Speaker 3: No, you did, but you've gone longer, but you've been

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long within. You've been long winded before, but you haven't

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there Anyway. The point is I agree with you, gim Man.

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I just don't see a guy that just gave a

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devotional who said this is his dream job? Are you

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kidding me? Who is very emotional and you know, look

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and when you look at BYU Athletics, and I remember

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this in class, Brandon the Stain does a good job,

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you know of with their video photography and the entire

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team there. If you were to go back and look

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at in my opinion, I think of what would be

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one of the highly look that clicked on videos. It's

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not gonna just be BYU football in this season. I

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would believe it would be Kilanie's devotional of what he gave.

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I think that would be top five, if not top

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ten for sure. And I just don't believe that coach

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who you know says the Polynesian lavel, his words, not

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mine right when you think of the next vi second him,

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I just don't see how it can end up at

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Penn State, like you said, g Man, like in the

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middle of nowhere in the Midwest, I know, not even

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mid West is more its eastern Coast for sure, but

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the Midwest Conference, the Big Ten, like Kalanie to the

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Big Ten, just it doesn't feel right, It doesn't sit

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well with me. Like he's BYU threw and through. When

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you look at the BYU culture, when you look at

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who exemplifies exactly what BYU is, you gotta put Kline's

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to talking next to it. Like, I don't see how

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he could just walk out the door, not even him

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walking out the door. He will, he would only leave

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if they if they allowed him to. But I don't

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see how you couldn't retain that and how that could

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be possible, And it just it would be honestly a shock,

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I think to everybody if that were to be the case.

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And I don't think Shane Reeves, Keith Vorkin, Brone, Santiago Andy.

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I'm gonna even take it a step further and give

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my own thoughts. I ain't think the Border Trustees would

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allow that to happen. I would truly be generally shocked

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if they let that go. And you can say he's underrated.

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You can say he's undervalued. The proof is in the pudding.

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You want results, you want to say we're a results

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based world. May I remind you of what his record

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is in the last two years in the Big Twelve.

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Brett and I will discuss this more in the next

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segment you'll hear from us. But look, it didn't go

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so well. First, you're in the Big twelve. Okay, yeah,

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what are you doing? The second, what do you doing?

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Speaker 1: The third?

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Speaker 3: What he's done in the last six years, four ten

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one seasons. You know how hard it is to win

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a football game in college football, yet alone win to

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get to double digit wins. That's the man that's done

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it for you. That man, mister Bubbly's so nice. You

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got fans. Now you have media members, wives posting about

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their sons and that and those like that. That's the

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type of person that influence that Kolonie Sataki is having impacting.

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How you saw the poster bear Bachmeyer kids saying hey,

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there's my twin. I guarantee there's some kid that saying

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Kilanie is his twin. I guarantee there saying that as well,

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like Kilanie Sataki is so valuable to BYU and BYU athletics,

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and it would be a disservice and it'll be a

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waste if to let that go, Like the momentum that

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Athletics has talked about that they built, that they feel

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like they've built not just on the field, but off

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the field. From a missionary standpoint as well, Kilanie is

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the ultimate missionary tool. Look at how he's respected by

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the conference and by the national media and everybody around

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the world. We were at Big twelve meet to day.

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As I heard it from Matt Berry brock Os. While

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you hear from everybody, everybody, Sonny Dyke's, Chris Kleiman, Joey McGuire,

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which we'll hear in just a second, everybody respects Kilane.

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So if you lost Kilanie, that would be Honestly, I

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don't even want to I don't want to be disrespectful

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a rude, but like it's like losing, you know, the

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cornerstone of bya football in a way, or one of

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the cornerstones, because I can't disrespect Lavelle if you let

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If you lose Kilania is like, man, I know people

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saying Bou football and Bou will be okay, but it

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kind of does feel like chicken little the sky is falling.

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So those are my thoughts on the opinion matter. We'll

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see what happens, but I think the man you know

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is gonna be staying right here, and I think BYU

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is gonna be better because of this. And all I

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got to say is this, Look, whatever is being negotiated,

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I don't know, but I'm just saying, you can't let

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the basketball coach who's performed well and who has every

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right to, you know, have everything well, what he's accomplished.

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You have to have that in football. It drives a ship.

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Those are Brian Santiago's words. So I feel like Kilani

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and his staff they deserve everything. They proven it. You're

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not gonna find another staff in college football that is

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this united, that has been able to be together this long,

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and that's what's contributed to the success. And I believe

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if you let Kilanie walk, you're also gonna let them

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walk and lose that as well. So you can't lose

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the momentum and you can't lose Kilanie. And I don't

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think it will happen. But let's get into our nitty

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we played this a little bit of a yesterday. We

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can get a chance to play all of it. We're

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just going to go back to the beginning to get

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fans an opportunity. This is Kalanie Sataki and Joey Maguire

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addressing the media and the media availability in preparation for

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the Big twelve Conference championship game on Saturday.

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Speaker 8: All Right, just gotta push unmute for a second. But

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first of all, I just want to thank everybody on

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the Zoom and express my gratitude to everybody involved. First

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of all, and I speak for Brett and and Joey

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when I say to how amazing it is that we

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have amazing coverage from everybody involved in the media. And

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then I also can speak for Joey because Joey and

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I had you know, if you want me at my best,

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Joey understands this.

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Speaker 1: It's it's usually when we're eating.

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Speaker 8: So we've had many opportunities to break bread together and

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to talk, mostly because I've been really interested in him

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as a leader and as as just a person all around.

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I love some of the things that he's been able

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to share with me about culture, and I see what

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they do in their in their with their team, their program.

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He as a leader has been amazing with that with

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a team culture. I'm really impressed with their team, just

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not just the way that they play the game. Obviously,

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we went out there and played in the game in Lubbock.

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Great atmosphere, great environment. Uh, not too friendly for us,

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but it was. It was a really cool experience. And

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and we did not show up at our best. A

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lot of that had to do with Texas Tech. Texas

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Tech's a complete team with a great coach, great coaching staff,

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and uh, all three phases. They played amazing football. I

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think they're best, the best team in the country, you know.

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And so when you look at it that way, we've

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got our work cutout for us. We're looking forward to

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the matchup. In fact, after the game, Uh, if you

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want to talk about manifesting when when when?

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Speaker 1: When?

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Speaker 8: Well, first of I'll go back to our dinner. When

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Joey and I had dinner, we talked about this. Joey,

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you remember that we talked about playing each other in

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the championship game. We manifested it and and now here

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we are. It's amazing they to do it against a

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great person and a great friend. But then also his

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team is a reflection of him and the sportsmanship and

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the class.

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Speaker 4: That they have.

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Speaker 8: After the game, we're shaking hands. Half of the players

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were saying, we'll see you guys in a few weeks.

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Like the they basically respected us enough to know that

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we're going to get back at this game, and it

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was really cool that that, you know, that interaction for

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our guys to you know, go out and play three

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games and get ready to get back into this and

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have another shot at it. An amazing team and so

471
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we're we're looking forward to being at our best because

472
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,920
it's required of us when playing the best team in

473
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the nation and that's Texas Tech. And so as we

474
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go through this, we're looking forward to the matchup, looking

475
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,880
forward to the game altogether. You know, I'm not much

476
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,839
of a campaign guy for us during the season, but

477
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,680
after the season and looking at it, at everything, I

478
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,119
do believe that what would Commissioner your mark and what

479
00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,720
Joey Maguire said that we are a player off contending

480
00:22:00,759 --> 00:22:03,279
team and so looking forward to the matchup and I'm

481
00:22:03,319 --> 00:22:07,359
looking forward to us both teams representing the Big Twelve in.

482
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Speaker 1: This playoff and doing it the right way.

483
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Speaker 8: But I do know we have some work to do

484
00:22:11,519 --> 00:22:15,279
and some improvement to get to it. Seeing the film

485
00:22:15,319 --> 00:22:17,400
and Texas Tech making that happen, that's going to be key.

486
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,359
And to end my comments, I just want to say

487
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,440
that being in the Big Twelve has been amazing for

488
00:22:23,559 --> 00:22:25,960
our fan base and for all of kugarnation for our

489
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,000
team being in all the different venues. We enjoyed the

490
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partnership in the Big Twelve, connecting with all the coaches

491
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and then seeing all the places that we need to

492
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play different venues. It's been amazing. Thank you for being

493
00:22:38,599 --> 00:22:40,440
kind to us, and thank you for the leadership that

494
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we see from our commissioner. Looking forward to it and

495
00:22:42,799 --> 00:22:44,519
looking forward to an amazing game this weekend.

496
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Speaker 5: Klanie is looking forward to presenting his team's best against

497
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Texas Tech this week?

498
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Speaker 1: Can he do that with all these distractions going around?

499
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Speaker 5: That's the tragedy of all this is the ability of

500
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,119
his team. We're talking about college kids. These guys are

501
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,440
out there. We've seen guys tweeting, They're worried. Have they

502
00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:10,240
been given as sure as the Colonne's sting. Are they

503
00:23:10,279 --> 00:23:14,880
focused on the task at hand. This is the underlying

504
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,599
tragedy of what might unfold with all of this is

505
00:23:18,599 --> 00:23:21,200
that b Way You isn't as motivated as it could

506
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,920
be Otherwise. What comforts me is I think BWAU has

507
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,720
very good senior leadership this season and very capable coaches

508
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,799
other than Colonia to keep them on task, but it's

509
00:23:32,839 --> 00:23:37,960
still a concern for everyone involved and those assistant.

510
00:23:37,519 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 1: Coaches, right, we're all human.

511
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 5: B Way you absolutely has to validate itself on a

512
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:48,079
national stage if they take a twenty nine to seven stomping.

513
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,759
Again that everyone's narrative about BYU's true and they're not

514
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,200
a serious team. They were right. Pat yourself on the back.

515
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,880
The points spread was right in Vegas. Want a lot

516
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,079
of money. B Way, you your nice pat on the head,

517
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,559
go back and and and and.

518
00:24:05,039 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: Be what we think you are.

519
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:07,039
Speaker 4: B Way.

520
00:24:07,079 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 5: You's got to balt This is I don't want to

521
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,359
say it's the biggest.

522
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 1: Game in b Way football history, but it's up there.

523
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:15,240
It's up there.

524
00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:17,319
Speaker 4: You're the way said when they played the first time around.

525
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,279
Speaker 5: You're going to be And this one's even bigger because

526
00:24:20,279 --> 00:24:21,839
you're playing for something direct.

527
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,279
Speaker 1: This is you're in the playoffs. Everyone no ware they're

528
00:24:25,319 --> 00:24:26,039
in the playoffs.

529
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,279
Speaker 5: You win and you advance and you're going somewhere. You

530
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,720
have to show better. You have to show you belong.

531
00:24:34,079 --> 00:24:36,880
You have to show all those national pundits guys, you

532
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,960
were wrong about us, You were one wrong. We belong.

533
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,000
We've made these strides. You have to validate this, and

534
00:24:44,039 --> 00:24:46,000
I just hope the Ways able to do that. I

535
00:24:46,039 --> 00:24:48,920
think they can if they're focused, if they're locked in,

536
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,440
and they give Texas Tech their best game. But man,

537
00:24:52,519 --> 00:24:56,920
you have got to validate what you're claiming, the unfairness

538
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:57,400
and all that.

539
00:24:57,559 --> 00:24:59,519
Speaker 1: You can't just go back. Yeah, I guess you guys

540
00:24:59,559 --> 00:24:59,920
are right.

541
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 4: Uh uh.

542
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 5: You gotta fight this. You gotta go. And I again,

543
00:25:05,759 --> 00:25:07,920
I like the senior leadership. I like the culture on

544
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,599
this team. There's any team that can overcome the distrection,

545
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,279
I believe that team is BYU. But man, it's a concern,

546
00:25:14,839 --> 00:25:16,839
it's one, it's absolutely concerned.

547
00:25:17,079 --> 00:25:20,039
Speaker 6: I think that what you say in your head is

548
00:25:20,079 --> 00:25:21,759
different than what you say ouloud, and what you feel

549
00:25:21,799 --> 00:25:23,400
in your head is different than what you feel out loud.

550
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,480
And so I do think that collectively, in that locker room,

551
00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:29,279
they're all able to look at each other and say, hey,

552
00:25:29,319 --> 00:25:31,279
we're not worried about this, We're not focused on this.

553
00:25:31,319 --> 00:25:33,119
We are focused on the task at hand, and that's

554
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:38,160
beating Texas Tech. However, your subconscious might say something different.

555
00:25:38,319 --> 00:25:40,960
And my guess is, if you are a human being,

556
00:25:41,319 --> 00:25:43,640
and they all have a relationship with Kialanate Sataki. They

557
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,839
all love Kalani Sataki. There's a part of their subconscious that,

558
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,400
no matter how bad they want to fight, it says, man,

559
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:50,920
are we gonna have.

560
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 4: A head coach with us on Saturday? Yeah, because what

561
00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:53,880
if we don't. Look.

562
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,319
Speaker 6: Look, we know we have all the talent in the world.

563
00:25:56,799 --> 00:25:59,920
But you lose your head coach, part of the heart,

564
00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:02,519
part of the fight, part of the culture, you lose

565
00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:04,680
it a little bit. And I'm not discounting this Boa

566
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,720
football team at all, because I think they're of all

567
00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:08,680
the talent in the world. I'm not saying they're not

568
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,799
good enough to be Texas six. But when you lose

569
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,440
a big piece of the heartbeat of your team, doesn't

570
00:26:16,599 --> 00:26:20,319
matter what the post on the bulletin board is there

571
00:26:20,319 --> 00:26:22,720
in the locker room. What matters is reality, and the

572
00:26:22,839 --> 00:26:24,799
rally out of the reality of the situation.

573
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,559
Speaker 1: Is you don't know if your head coach will be

574
00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:27,759
there on Saturday.

575
00:26:27,599 --> 00:26:29,799
Speaker 6: Because even if he says, I'm going up and say it,

576
00:26:29,839 --> 00:26:30,599
but I want to stay.

577
00:26:30,839 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 4: You may see the old miss.

578
00:26:31,799 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 6: Situation where a BIU says, well, that's fine, you don't

579
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,920
want to stay, We're not gonna let you stay here

580
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,319
to do Christmas with the family, then you don't get

581
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,440
you don't get to leave for somebody else and then

582
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,240
come back to do Christmas with us, And so I

583
00:26:43,279 --> 00:26:46,039
could see it from that point, then the other part of.

584
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: Me wonders, what if all of the players.

585
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 6: Know something that we don't, and what if they all

586
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:57,960
know Kialane's never really actually been intent on leaving or

587
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,680
at least what if the captain's the guy matter on

588
00:27:00,759 --> 00:27:03,160
the team, what if they know. What if there was

589
00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:05,200
some meeting and Clonie says, hey, look, I know you're

590
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,480
gonna see a lot of things. Don't worry about it,

591
00:27:07,519 --> 00:27:09,480
And he doesn't say too much, but he just says,

592
00:27:10,279 --> 00:27:12,240
I got it. I'm taking care of it. And maybe

593
00:27:12,279 --> 00:27:14,720
it really is all just a leverage play. And if

594
00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:17,319
that's the case, that, to me is the only real

595
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,880
scenario I see in which BYU could go into this

596
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,680
game while maintaining full focus. Is if somebody in their

597
00:27:24,759 --> 00:27:28,440
nose Klanie's doing this for leverage, even if it hasn't

598
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,799
been said as in as many words, Kalanie's just trying

599
00:27:31,799 --> 00:27:33,599
to do this so he can get what's best for

600
00:27:33,759 --> 00:27:38,119
us and this team. Now, given everything that's on the internet,

601
00:27:38,319 --> 00:27:43,119
given everyone's test messages and everyone's everything who's been leaked,

602
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,640
because I've had plenty sent to me, it would be

603
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,359
really hard for that conversation or something along those lines

604
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,839
to have happened and nobody found out about it. However,

605
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,480
if you were going to keep anything, I think it

606
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,200
would be team keeping it within the team. I really

607
00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:02,279
don't truly know. I wabble back and forth on on

608
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,480
what I really think is going on here. I do

609
00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:07,759
think Klanie wants to be here. I think he wants

610
00:28:07,799 --> 00:28:10,400
to coach these guys. And to your point, this is

611
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,119
probably the biggest game in Bulu football history because this

612
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,759
is the only time you've ever been playing for a

613
00:28:15,799 --> 00:28:21,519
guaranteed spot in a playoff that leads you to a

614
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,000
national championship. But to the point that you started with,

615
00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:30,160
and I can't, we cannot understate overstate this enough. Do

616
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,519
you remember how bad You're one of the Big Twelve was?

617
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,160
Everyone who's listening you remember how rough year one of

618
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,640
the Big Twelve was, We're like, oh my god.

619
00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 8: It was.

620
00:28:38,319 --> 00:28:40,759
Speaker 1: It was horrible. I remember sitting in the press box

621
00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:44,000
when they played Iowa State. YEP, it was embarrassed.

622
00:28:44,079 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 3: The first play pre Snapbreen pig Girny remember that.

623
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,599
Speaker 6: And and and everybody who's listening, anyone who's a BAU fan, thought,

624
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,960
oh man, how long is it going to be before

625
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,279
we are not sitting at the bottom of this conference.

626
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,839
Colannie said, hey, give me, not even a year will

627
00:29:01,839 --> 00:29:04,240
be good. Last year you go ten and two, you're

628
00:29:04,279 --> 00:29:07,759
in a tiebreaker to play for a conference championship. Unfortunately,

629
00:29:07,799 --> 00:29:09,359
some things happened in Arizona States, so you don't end

630
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,200
up winning and getting in there. And now you're guaranteed

631
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,680
a spot in the Big twelve conference championship, which if

632
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,359
you win, you would beat one of the best teams

633
00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:20,880
in all of college football and you would guarantee your

634
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,119
spot in the playoffs.

635
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 4: I don't think we can overstate it. There's a lot

636
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,759
of noise.

637
00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 6: Right now between Kilani, between whether or not BUI gets

638
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,839
into the playoffs, all that good stuff. But let's remember

639
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,240
where we were a year or two years ago, with

640
00:29:36,279 --> 00:29:40,119
this BAU football team struggling Big twelve year one. Where

641
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,039
we are right now, and the coaching job the Kilani

642
00:29:43,079 --> 00:29:47,119
Sataki and his crew have put on cannot be overstated.

643
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,319
It is nothing short of incredible to see how far

644
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,599
they've turned this program around in the Big twelve Conference.

645
00:29:53,519 --> 00:29:57,799
Speaker 3: They've turned it around for sure. Looks it's remarkable of

646
00:29:57,799 --> 00:29:59,359
what they've done. I just go back to the record

647
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,160
twenty two and I'm pretty sure it might be twenty

648
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,880
three and three now, but I think it's twenty two

649
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,759
and three now since in the last two years. He

650
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,079
deserves it. He deserves everything that they've worked for. The

651
00:30:10,119 --> 00:30:12,000
staff does, and they've done it with the with the

652
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,880
one hand tie behind their back, right. And I know

653
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,799
people say, oh, well, you know the honoricle is like,

654
00:30:17,839 --> 00:30:19,440
there are stipulations and things that you have to find

655
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,000
the right type of players. Can't bring in anybody in BAU.

656
00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:24,319
You have to bring in someone that fits the culture.

657
00:30:24,359 --> 00:30:26,599
And he's done that and he's been able to do that,

658
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,160
so why not why not them? So we're gonna find

659
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,599
out more. But guys, we gotta go to break. But

660
00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:32,559
that was your nitty gritty. We'll get into some more

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eight zero one three eight zero eight zero eight seven

707
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for a quote. And remember when you mentioned Crittle or ESPN,

708
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you're gonna get seventy dollars off your first cleaning. That's

709
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seventy dollars off your first cleanup with Bresa Cleaning Services. Look,

710
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,200
people always want to know why do you do cougar

711
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,000
bytes around with Bear Bachmeiner. That's because it's a bite.

712
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:53,160
It's a long it is literally bred a bite this man.

713
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,279
I think the longest answer I've seen him give is

714
00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:58,559
twenty five to thirty seconds. I always say, you want

715
00:32:58,559 --> 00:33:01,839
to know something, don't ask Bear shot. Don't ask the quarterback.

716
00:33:02,119 --> 00:33:04,160
He's gonna be straight to the point. Now, he might

717
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,759
be doing a typical freshman pr train, short to the point,

718
00:33:06,839 --> 00:33:08,240
but I also believe this is who Bear is.

719
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, now, demember. Back in the day, LJ used to

720
00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:13,160
be kind of not say too much.

721
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 6: And now as he's grown and grown as a football

722
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,640
player but also grown like in the media, training and

723
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,160
all that stuff, and now LJ gives great answers he's

724
00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:23,720
so well spoken, he's so element and again not that

725
00:33:23,799 --> 00:33:26,160
Bear's not. I just don't think his brain works that way.

726
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,880
He's not thinking like how can I communicate to the media.

727
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,400
He is literally just going to answer the question that

728
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,160
you asked, whether it's yes, no, whatever it is. He's

729
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,440
not focused on giving you a great answer. He's literally

730
00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:39,200
just focused on answering your question.

731
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,359
Speaker 3: That is it, That is it? That is all. How

732
00:33:41,359 --> 00:33:43,079
to do how to do typic, gip of the cap,

733
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,599
That's what Bart Bachmeyer is, That's what he does. So

734
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,720
I just want to always make that clear. That's why

735
00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:49,920
kogerybody's straight to the point. But look, I think he

736
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,200
is gonna get better in the media. Kind of like

737
00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:54,599
Jaron Hall, same thing kind of happened. So look, give

738
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,079
them time, give them time and all will work out.

739
00:33:58,119 --> 00:34:00,759
But gonna get into this Bear bachmeers on. He addressed

740
00:34:00,759 --> 00:34:03,440
everything in the post game in regards to bo He's

741
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,559
forty one to twenty one win over UCF. Look, it

742
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,000
was a scary performance in that first quarter, and you

743
00:34:10,039 --> 00:34:11,519
can't really say, oh, they had him in the first half.

744
00:34:11,519 --> 00:34:13,760
They had him in the first quarter, but man, not

745
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,519
the start that you want to see. We said it

746
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,800
yesterday in a couple of segments. We'll say it again today.

747
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,039
If you start that slow against Texas Tech, boy, oh me,

748
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:25,760
oh my, oh me, oh my, it's not gonna look

749
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,119
good for you. Those that are NBA basketball fans will

750
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:31,039
understand that right there. Anyway, let's get into the questions.

751
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,800
This is where the questions that myself and other media

752
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,920
members asked Bear Backmeyer in the post game. Let's start

753
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:37,519
with number one.

754
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: Bear.

755
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 3: Last year, Bo, you came up short getting to the

756
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,440
title game. What does it mean to get to the

757
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,559
title game this year?

758
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 9: Yeah, it means a lot, and especially on on Senior Day.

759
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,760
And yeah, I mean we've worked so hard and just

760
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,880
to see the hard work payoff. But but you know,

761
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,440
we know, we know we got a big ask, hen

762
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:01,960
and we we gotta we gotta go to tack.

763
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,119
Speaker 3: All right, that was Bear Bachmeyer there. But we got

764
00:35:06,159 --> 00:35:06,880
some breaking news.

765
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:07,079
Speaker 1: Guys.

766
00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 3: We're gonna shift gears, actually gonna switch things up. We

767
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,000
are not gonna continue this sound. I'm gonna play the

768
00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:12,599
music for you.

769
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,119
Speaker 1: Breaking news.

770
00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:16,079
Speaker 4: Exactly right now.

771
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,599
Speaker 3: That he intended to stay at the School of Brett

772
00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:32,280
Ben Alternati on you guys, your reaction to the news.

773
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 6: I mean, look, I I honestly didn't think we were

774
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,199
gonna get a decision this fast, But I'm.

775
00:35:41,079 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 4: Really happy that we did.

776
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 6: Because the longer that this went on, to me, the

777
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,280
worst your odds of winning and ERA in Dallas are

778
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,039
on Saturday, the longer your subconscious lingers about whether or

779
00:35:53,079 --> 00:35:54,880
not Klonie's stockey is still gonna be there. So the

780
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,119
fact that we got an announcement today from Pete thambl

781
00:35:57,159 --> 00:36:00,199
that Kloni Stocky intense state is awesome. It all so

782
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,639
to me signifies that Jason McGowan and whoever else hopped

783
00:36:04,679 --> 00:36:06,519
on board to say, hey, what do we have to

784
00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:10,719
do to keep Kialani here? Whatever push they made, because

785
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,559
again from flight records, we were pretty sure that he

786
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,360
was in state college. We were pretty sure Penn State

787
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,639
was pretty close to getting him. So this all says

788
00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:22,760
to me, by you made a significant push to do

789
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,320
whatever it was to meet whatever demands that Kilani had

790
00:36:26,559 --> 00:36:31,719
to bring him back. And again, I love that Kilani

791
00:36:32,559 --> 00:36:36,320
didn't waste time in making this decision because say what

792
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,599
you will, obviously we talked about yesterday. Like, I don't

793
00:36:39,639 --> 00:36:43,639
fault Kilani at all for making this decision for potentially

794
00:36:43,679 --> 00:36:46,480
wanting to go somewhere where he is maybe paid more.

795
00:36:46,519 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 4: I don't fault him at all for that. But Kilanie

796
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:49,039
is also.

797
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,119
Speaker 6: The type of guy who cares about everybody else, And

798
00:36:51,199 --> 00:36:53,280
to me, the fact that he made this decision as

799
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,760
fast as he possibly could, despite having to sit to

800
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,159
a press conference yesterday for the Big twelve Championship says

801
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,880
so much more about Kilanie's character that he didn't want

802
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,119
to drag down his entire team to getting bogged down

803
00:37:06,159 --> 00:37:08,480
through rumors in the Internet and all of those things

804
00:37:08,639 --> 00:37:10,320
that he was willing to say, Hey, I gotta make

805
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:10,880
a decision.

806
00:37:11,199 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna need like I'm gonna need BYU.

807
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 6: To do the best you can and let me know

808
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,159
what you can do so that I can make this decision.

809
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,360
So shout out to Kilane for getting this done on

810
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:21,880
a Tuesday.

811
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,559
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's great, right, I'm not surprised by

812
00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:27,199
this at all. In the words of the great Nick Wright,

813
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:30,760
never a doubt, Never a doubt. BYU coach Kilaney has

814
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,760
begun to inform people that he intends to stay at

815
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,000
the school. Boa was in the process of putting together

816
00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:37,400
a lucrative contract to keep him he's been one of

817
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,079
the main targets at Penn State, which he informed of

818
00:37:40,159 --> 00:37:44,039
his decision two day. Kilani is a BYU guy threw

819
00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:47,119
and through always felt like BYU was gonna keep him,

820
00:37:47,159 --> 00:37:49,880
retain him. But look, at the end of the day,

821
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,760
this is gonna be a conversation. Like I said with

822
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,440
Kevin Young, KLINI being and poach is a good thing.

823
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,519
And lets you know, for national wise, for Boa get

824
00:37:56,559 --> 00:37:58,840
into the college football playoffs. I think this is all good.

825
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,079
That he has good coaching, He's got a great coaching staff,

826
00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:04,440
he's got good recruits, this is a great program. But

827
00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:06,199
he is here to stay and he should be in

828
00:38:06,559 --> 00:38:08,639
Letting him go and watching him go out the door

829
00:38:08,679 --> 00:38:11,360
would just be a disservice. I think to everything that's

830
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,119
been built, like you think of what Lavelle did. Klanie's

831
00:38:14,119 --> 00:38:15,920
that next guy. Like I said it a long time

832
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,519
ago when I first got on the air way, I

833
00:38:17,559 --> 00:38:19,960
think Klanie will end up being with Kyle Whittingham was

834
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,679
the Utah. I see Kalani being here twenty years and

835
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,400
I don't think he wants to go anywhere else. When

836
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,679
a guy says, in his own words, my dream job

837
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,519
are you kidding me, And I get chills when I

838
00:38:28,519 --> 00:38:29,920
say that, Like I really feel the spirit and I'm

839
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,079
not trying to get all spiritual. When a guy says

840
00:38:32,119 --> 00:38:33,880
that he does not going to say anything, he doesn't

841
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,079
mean Klanie's not that type of guy. He's very genuine

842
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,559
and I'm very grateful that Byu Purpe Damio sounds like

843
00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:41,199
that they this is going to be a done deal

844
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,679
and locking him in. Those are my thoughts on this situation.

845
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,920
This is a glorious day in Kugar Nations. Not done yet,

846
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,519
but it will get to that point. But this is

847
00:38:48,519 --> 00:38:50,719
headed in the right direction. And now you can focus

848
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,880
on bringing home that Big twelve conference championship and getting

849
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,719
to the college football playoffs. And that would be a

850
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,480
validation if that would happen. If Colonie were to take

851
00:38:58,519 --> 00:39:01,320
BYU on Saturday and get the title and bring it

852
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,960
back to Provo, that validates everything that has happened in

853
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,079
that deal. So wishing in the best and good luck.

854
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:07,159
I'm gonna turn it back over.

855
00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 4: To ben Yo. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, all

856
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:18,719
the fans of Cougar Nation, the Royal Army. Baby, you

857
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:24,280
guys rallied you guys, you guys duels, you guys booied

858
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,960
it up. Look, you got to give credit where credit

859
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,199
is do This is a lot of people deserve a

860
00:39:32,199 --> 00:39:35,079
lot of credit here, and I want to give credit

861
00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:39,119
to everybody that that deserves it here. I'll say this much.

862
00:39:39,199 --> 00:39:42,360
The chronology of the events is one that I wouldn't

863
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,559
want to experience. Like I don't like the timing of it.

864
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:48,239
I don't like the drama. I don't like the noise,

865
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,880
I don't like the distraction. But I do believe there

866
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:59,880
is there is value and merit to letting it play

867
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:07,280
out as it did and putting BYU it's essentially is

868
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:12,079
its executive decision making committee. Brian Santiago, the ad Shane

869
00:40:12,119 --> 00:40:14,639
reached the President, Keith or King, the VP of Advancement,

870
00:40:15,159 --> 00:40:19,360
and Elder Gilbert into a situation where they had to

871
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:24,159
engage and truly evaluate what they wanted for the future

872
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,599
of their football program, who they want to lead their

873
00:40:28,599 --> 00:40:34,079
football program. And unless there's like a sense of vergion,

874
00:40:34,159 --> 00:40:38,280
sometimes I feel like we are way too reactionary in

875
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,039
at BYU, Like we're wait, why are we not proactive?

876
00:40:43,079 --> 00:40:45,880
I made the point last night in my piece on

877
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:51,000
KSL dot com. We knew, we saw attrition in the

878
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,519
head coaching world back in October. October twelfth, I think

879
00:40:55,599 --> 00:41:02,880
is when James Franklin was dismissed. Okay, was fired like

880
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,400
three four five days after that. You know what happened.

881
00:41:05,639 --> 00:41:08,960
Kirk Signetti signs a deal, anyone, Matt Ruhle signs a

882
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,480
deal on extension, anyone that had momentum at that time,

883
00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:17,920
and their organization, their athletic department, saw future with they

884
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,639
engage in conversation and they said, you know what, we

885
00:41:20,679 --> 00:41:24,239
want to make sure you're happy. Let's get you signed

886
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,719
with an extension long term and give you a pay raise,

887
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,440
give you the rea, what do you need? What do

888
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,960
you want? And we didn't do that. It didn't have

889
00:41:35,039 --> 00:41:39,280
to come to this. Now, is it Euphork? Is it exciting?

890
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,719
Was the last forty eight hours leading up to this

891
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,559
announcement dramatic?

892
00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 9: Sure?

893
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,079
Speaker 4: Was it entertaining? Yes? It's the cardiac Koogs. We call

894
00:41:51,159 --> 00:41:55,360
him that for a reason. Our quarters all levels skyrocket

895
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,519
and we're like, no, what are we doing? What's that

896
00:41:57,599 --> 00:42:00,599
we're gonna lose? It's that all like that meme that

897
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,159
shows like the front end of a horse, you know,

898
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,920
or the it's like a drawing and then it like

899
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:07,960
it gets worse as it goes on. It's just the

900
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,039
inverse of that. It was worse and then it it

901
00:42:10,119 --> 00:42:13,000
turned into a beautiful horse, a tongue and horse, if

902
00:42:13,039 --> 00:42:16,000
you will. By the way, Louis Lapol eats horse. I

903
00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:17,880
you know, you look at that on his bio. Shout

904
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,639
out to Louis at any rate. So the chronology of

905
00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:25,559
these events, what happened since October twelfth, Well, Penn State

906
00:42:26,599 --> 00:42:31,559
as a study was on the prow looking for great coaches.

907
00:42:31,639 --> 00:42:34,000
Kurt probably was a part of that. Matt Rule was

908
00:42:34,039 --> 00:42:36,760
a part of that. They've been reaching out to prominent

909
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,440
figures in the coaching world for a while. Guess who

910
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,480
else got a call in October after they swung and miss.

911
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,079
Probably late October is when Kalani got the first call

912
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,760
and an evow okay from mister Kraft, Hey, would you

913
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,440
be interested? Uh, you know, we'll see, Like, of course

914
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,719
I'd be interested. Like some of the things I've read

915
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,639
from the other side of the realm, and I've chatted

916
00:43:03,679 --> 00:43:08,440
with Matt Brown, I've had interaction with espn okay, I've

917
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,199
had interactions with Brett McMurphy just via text and over

918
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,119
the phone and if going to the two four seven

919
00:43:16,599 --> 00:43:22,119
message board of Penn State. The messaging was this is

920
00:43:22,199 --> 00:43:28,239
like Penn State would be Kilanie's dream job. Having unlimited resources,

921
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,920
having everything that Penn State could provide would be a

922
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,559
perfect scenario for Kilanie. And they would bring in coaches,

923
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:41,239
They would retain a few coaches that have recruiting tentacles

924
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:46,760
across the northeast, and the plan was laid. Okay, there

925
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,119
was conversation, but so what did Kilanie do with that information?

926
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,559
Knowing that there was warmth, there was mutual interest, what

927
00:43:53,559 --> 00:43:57,039
do you think he did? He went to the BYU

928
00:43:57,159 --> 00:44:02,199
brass and said, hey, this is where we're at. I'm

929
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,480
getting I'm receiving interest from other schools. Do you remember

930
00:44:06,559 --> 00:44:09,079
not just just a few years ago after the twenty

931
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:14,280
twenty one season Oregon USC Washington, there were a lot

932
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,400
of jobs that were reaching out to him and he interviewed.

933
00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:20,159
And what did he get. He got an extension and

934
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,800
probably a pay raise. Not just for himself. He's typically

935
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:28,320
advocating for who his staff to create a championship program

936
00:44:28,679 --> 00:44:35,480
and nil support, support from the donors, et cetera. So

937
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,800
this has happened before. I hate to say it, but

938
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,360
by you doesn't move unless there is turmoil and a

939
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:49,599
catalyst and leverage Leverridge. Why do we have to be

940
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,119
this way? Why do we have to move and jump

941
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:58,239
only when someone's twisting our arm. It shouldn't be this way.

942
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:04,280
We're Brigham Young Universe. We are no longer the stepping stone. Okay,

943
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:09,000
we are no longer a low level athletic department and

944
00:45:09,079 --> 00:45:12,239
football program. We're in year three of the Big twelve.

945
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,039
We don't We didn't have to do it this way,

946
00:45:14,079 --> 00:45:16,000
is when I'm getting at We didn't have to have

947
00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:21,440
the drama. Was it beautifully executed by maybe the agents

948
00:45:21,519 --> 00:45:25,119
and Kilanie and everyone that was involved on in the

949
00:45:25,199 --> 00:45:29,280
donors rallying, Sure, but it didn't have to come to this.

950
00:45:29,639 --> 00:45:32,760
I don't think Kilani needed to be you know, he

951
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,719
didn't have to have these debates and conversations with the

952
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,000
brass and with donors and other things. And I don't

953
00:45:40,039 --> 00:45:43,360
think it had to lean up to this dramatic climax,

954
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,119
even though it's you for work in this glorious and

955
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:48,360
the celestial and we're all celebrating, we're high fiving, everyone's

956
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,800
at their workplace, like we got her guy. You know

957
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,760
he's got the old uh you know, the Wolf of

958
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,559
Wall Street Mike, like Leonardo Dicapri.

959
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm not leaving.

960
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not freaking leaving. I need that, by

961
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,280
the way, and get the edited version. Have you guys

962
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:04,960
seen woof of Wall Street before? If you haven't, you

963
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,840
need to just get the edited Angel or the Angel

964
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:12,519
Flicks version of it. Yeah, Okay, I still feel I

965
00:46:12,559 --> 00:46:16,559
still feel sad. You can't watch you can't. You can't

966
00:46:16,599 --> 00:46:22,039
watch it unless you served a mission. You know that's

967
00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:25,440
the rule. But I'm not leaving. I'm not freaking leaving.

968
00:46:26,199 --> 00:46:28,639
It didn't need to come to this. We didn't have

969
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,559
to do this, And that's maybe what my frustration is

970
00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:37,239
in all this. I'm celebratory, I'm happy, but like, we

971
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,480
shouldn't have to have an an eight figure sum given

972
00:46:41,559 --> 00:46:45,559
to an offer given to Koloni stake in order to

973
00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:50,400
think that he he has serious suitors. He has serious

974
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,880
people reaching out to him in serious schools reaching out

975
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,519
to him to offer him more money, more resources, more support,

976
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,920
more nil support in order to obtain his talents.

977
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,559
Speaker 6: So I do have a little bit of official note

978
00:47:02,559 --> 00:47:04,800
that we can add to this story. Pete Nakos is

979
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,639
reporting BYU is quote committing to ten to fifteen million

980
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,280
dollars of nil on top of revenue sharing. The new

981
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,760
deal is currently expected to pay Sataki roughly nine to

982
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,599
nine and a half million annually over the deal. Just

983
00:47:19,679 --> 00:47:23,800
for context, Lane Kiffen is making thirteen million dollars a year,

984
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,239
so this really is pushing him towards the upper echelon of.

985
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:28,079
Speaker 4: High paid coaches.

986
00:47:28,159 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 6: But we now have some official numbers from Pete Nakos from.

987
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:37,199
Speaker 4: My reports, and I haven't tweeted this out. Initial conversations

988
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:38,960
like this, Like I said, I gave you numbers, like

989
00:47:39,039 --> 00:47:43,119
I think Kilani and k Y are making the same amount, Okay,

990
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,159
I think they're making abrupt on the same amount before

991
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,360
or now they were making the same amount before this, Okay,

992
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,920
four and a half five million, depending on the incentive. Yeah, right,

993
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,559
And that's where that's what's been reported officially from from

994
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,480
sources outside of BYU, except because they're never going to

995
00:47:58,519 --> 00:48:01,679
divulge the official race. And now where's Ky after that extension,

996
00:48:01,679 --> 00:48:04,360
I'm not sure, but up to that point, it's roughly

997
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,920
the same amount. We all know that there's an incongruency there,

998
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,239
like the head coach of football should make more money

999
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,079
and we should find a way to do that. I

1000
00:48:12,119 --> 00:48:14,039
think it started off. I bet you it started off

1001
00:48:14,039 --> 00:48:16,440
in October with a lower rate. I don't think it

1002
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,440
was nine million. I don't think it was that amount.

1003
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,440
I really don't why, because there wasn't necessarily an official

1004
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,199
offer on the table for Kilani. What would Colotti come with? Well,

1005
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,519
what's the fair market rate for maybe a P four

1006
00:48:30,679 --> 00:48:34,519
head coach? Well, you know, seven million, six and a

1007
00:48:34,559 --> 00:48:38,239
half seven million. I feel comfortable with that. Well, I

1008
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,159
don't know if we can do that. I don't know

1009
00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:41,800
if we can because it would have been done most likely,

1010
00:48:42,559 --> 00:48:44,920
and then it could have elevated. Well, as you get

1011
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,000
closer and you became more confident and agents become more confident,

1012
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,599
it's like, well, guess what, Like this price may go up.

1013
00:48:53,679 --> 00:48:56,599
You know what I mean about leverage. This price may

1014
00:48:56,639 --> 00:49:00,079
go up the more offers you have in hand. And

1015
00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:02,920
once again, we shouldn't have to be leveraged. I'm seeing

1016
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,119
it in real time play out here. I just didn't

1017
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:07,760
think it would.

1018
00:49:07,559 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: Come to this.

1019
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:09,079
Speaker 4: I really didn't.

1020
00:49:09,159 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: I didn't either.

1021
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,159
Speaker 4: I didn't think it would come to this. It got

1022
00:49:12,199 --> 00:49:16,800
to the point where I was told eight million. Well

1023
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,079
guess what happened. Penn State came in with a massive

1024
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:27,519
offer and unlimited spending. Okay unlimited. Essentially they are willing

1025
00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:32,400
to to to go all in on rev Share and

1026
00:49:32,599 --> 00:49:35,079
I all support. They just wanted Colonie and they wanted

1027
00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:38,679
his staff. They wanted by you, as Brady Pepinka told

1028
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:44,079
us yesterday, and so the the investment went up. Like

1029
00:49:44,159 --> 00:49:47,119
once you determine market rate and what the value is

1030
00:49:47,159 --> 00:49:50,039
of who you have, you begin to scramble. And what

1031
00:49:50,119 --> 00:49:53,880
happened was like there should have been over the last

1032
00:49:53,960 --> 00:50:00,599
month this type of sense of urgency, and it didn't

1033
00:50:00,599 --> 00:50:02,880
have to lead up to well, WI, will we do this?

1034
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,360
If you get to the Big twelve championship game? Will

1035
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,039
I do this? If you don't lose games, will I

1036
00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:11,760
do this? I understand the methodology of that. You know,

1037
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,320
it's like, well, if you hit quota, then we'll have

1038
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,000
that discussion. But if he gets quota, you're bonusing him.

1039
00:50:18,199 --> 00:50:22,239
You just bonused him, so in the quest to save money,

1040
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,639
you ended up having to spend more money. You probably

1041
00:50:24,639 --> 00:50:26,440
could have locked him in for a lower rate, is

1042
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,599
what I'm getting at and he probably would have bought

1043
00:50:28,639 --> 00:50:31,519
it because he's the Polynesian level. He wants to stick around. Now.

1044
00:50:31,639 --> 00:50:34,719
Good thing for Koloney and his agent, like to me,

1045
00:50:35,639 --> 00:50:38,400
they're always advocating for their coaches, that they're always advocating

1046
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,719
for their players, and so they're requesting market rate for

1047
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:46,400
himself but also market rate for coaches and market rate

1048
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,800
for the players. And like I said, Brian Santiaius, the

1049
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:54,079
one that set the bar, Brian Shane and Keith and

1050
00:50:54,119 --> 00:50:57,239
Elder Gilbert set the bar for basketball. Once you did that,

1051
00:50:58,679 --> 00:51:02,239
then yeah, to antie up as it related to football,

1052
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:16,119
why because football drives the ship. Football drives the ship, period, Right,

1053
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,239
you write the check, you gotta, you gotta Casketball drives

1054
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,000
the ship. So you probably could have got him for

1055
00:51:24,039 --> 00:51:26,519
a lower rate. I truly believe this had had we

1056
00:51:26,639 --> 00:51:31,559
been a little bit more proactive than reactive and not

1057
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,039
set the quote of like, well, if you get there,

1058
00:51:35,199 --> 00:51:38,039
then we'll have that discussion if you have leverage. So

1059
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,800
I'm just I guess I'm happy, but I'm also like,

1060
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,599
we didn't have to go through all this. We didn't

1061
00:51:46,639 --> 00:51:48,960
have to go through all this rigamar role. We didn't

1062
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,079
have to go through all this process and procedure, and

1063
00:51:53,639 --> 00:51:57,280
we could have been proactive for the last month and

1064
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,800
figured this out and not come to the the final

1065
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:06,159
week right before signing day, the early signing period. That's

1066
00:52:06,159 --> 00:52:07,559
why they got it done. And I think you bring

1067
00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:09,400
up some good points as it relates to just the

1068
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,519
timeliness of this. Yeah, you have the priority number one

1069
00:52:13,519 --> 00:52:15,400
big tal championship. You have a champion. You have a

1070
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:19,719
chance to have a monumental season that Bay has never experienced.

1071
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,599
They'd never gotten over the hump. And it's very difficult

1072
00:52:21,639 --> 00:52:24,000
to beat a team twice in a college football season. Yes,

1073
00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:26,760
UCLA found out that out in two thousand and seven

1074
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,159
going up against us. They beat us at their place,

1075
00:52:29,159 --> 00:52:30,440
and then we got on a neutral field and we

1076
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,880
beat them. So it's hard to do. Now we're gonna

1077
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,920
be on a neutral field. They got us at their place.

1078
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:36,719
Now we're gonna be on a neutral field and we'll

1079
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,599
see how it plays out. Furthermore, you have a one

1080
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:41,519
of the you have a top twenty five signing class

1081
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:46,880
commit class. And how much attrition would we have experienced. Okay,

1082
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,440
if you let Kilanie go to Penn State, now you

1083
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,119
would have had a fail safe to a degree, and

1084
00:52:54,159 --> 00:52:57,920
a good coaching staff retained in some way, shape or form,

1085
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,760
whoever that may had depending on who went and who

1086
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,159
you probably like, I was hearing a number of things, right,

1087
00:53:03,199 --> 00:53:07,400
So you know, Killani was trying to bring his entire

1088
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:12,079
staff over minus maybe a few key coaches that have connections,

1089
00:53:12,119 --> 00:53:16,079
recruiting wise, institutional knowledge, all that stuff to ease the

1090
00:53:16,119 --> 00:53:18,599
bird and ease the pain, right, But he was trying

1091
00:53:18,599 --> 00:53:22,039
to bring Jay Hill with them. And on three Brett

1092
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:24,760
McMurphy p NA Goes. Both both of them reported that

1093
00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:27,159
they were trying to bring Jay Hill. So everyone that

1094
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,400
was like, well, Jay Hill's gonna stick it out, He's

1095
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,360
gonna stay here. Yeah, maybe he would have, you know,

1096
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,599
with an offer, and it had been at a lower

1097
00:53:34,679 --> 00:53:38,639
rate than what she just gave Kilane most likely. But realize,

1098
00:53:39,079 --> 00:53:41,159
you're once again, you're in the big boys club. Now

1099
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,199
that rate, whether it's this year or next year or

1100
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,159
the following year, is going to continue to go up

1101
00:53:46,199 --> 00:53:50,519
because you're playing big boy football. You're not gonna going

1102
00:53:50,559 --> 00:53:53,559
to be capable of underpaying year over year over year.

1103
00:53:53,639 --> 00:53:55,519
Like eventually you had to make a decision and bring

1104
00:53:55,519 --> 00:53:57,679
in k Y because you want to win. You had

1105
00:53:57,679 --> 00:53:59,719
to you had to build an NBA staff, you had

1106
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,559
to you had to have a robust nil offering. Okay,

1107
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,719
you just had to do that in order to stay competitive,

1108
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,159
state relevant, and ultimately win. Right.

1109
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 6: So, for context, James Franklin's current contract with the Penn

1110
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,039
State before he got fired was eight to eight and

1111
00:54:14,039 --> 00:54:15,000
a half million eight and a.

1112
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:20,199
Speaker 4: Half million, right, So you could have retained j and

1113
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:21,840
you probably could have got out. You could have retained

1114
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,320
maybe a Ron, but a Rod probably goes with Kilane

1115
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,400
most likely. And then who do you go get? Well,

1116
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,760
you can try to go get Jason back up at Utah,

1117
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,639
you know, if you want to go acquire some good

1118
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,480
offensive talent. He's a BYU guy. He's at Utah. He

1119
00:54:34,599 --> 00:54:37,239
just had one of the best offensive seasons in college football.

1120
00:54:37,679 --> 00:54:39,559
You probably could have brought him in with you know,

1121
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,199
guys like Marciottawaia, etc. Like these are these are probably

1122
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:49,960
strategies that internally the executive committee's looking at. So but

1123
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,800
still like there would have been attrition of the roster.

1124
00:54:53,079 --> 00:54:57,440
Yeah there, you don't think if you polled, if you

1125
00:54:57,599 --> 00:55:02,039
survey monkey, if you qual tricks the football team, and

1126
00:55:02,039 --> 00:55:04,599
you said if Kolani goes to Penn State, will you

1127
00:55:04,639 --> 00:55:09,320
go with him? What percentage would like to go with him?

1128
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,280
If Kilani and the and the staff that's leaving wanted

1129
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,119
those players, I bet your over half would want to

1130
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:18,280
go with them. There's some that loot institutionally BYU is

1131
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,199
BYU and they retained a lot. And there's an idea

1132
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,159
that has germinated for a long time, and I do

1133
00:55:24,199 --> 00:55:26,280
believe there's some truth to it that no matter who

1134
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,719
coaches at BYU. Okay, and I heard this during the

1135
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:36,920
Bronkomenden Hall Tom homo Era that no matter who's coaching BYU, BYU,

1136
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:43,159
the brand is bigger than any coach, right, and you

1137
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,320
attract certain types of players that are high level players

1138
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,440
no matter who's coaching. Sure, no matter who the position coaches,

1139
00:55:50,519 --> 00:55:52,079
no matter who the head coaches, no matter who the

1140
00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:55,280
offense or defense. There's truth in that. And you can

1141
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:59,519
win eight games a season with that BYU brand equity,

1142
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,719
the blocks, the bricks that have been built by Lavelle

1143
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,960
Edwards and all this, all the staff from nineteen seventy

1144
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:10,920
two to present day, there's there's there's there's obvious truth to.

1145
00:56:11,039 --> 00:56:13,039
Speaker 6: That and the brand means even more because this is

1146
00:56:13,039 --> 00:56:15,000
the first time you've been in a power conference.

1147
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 4: Means even more now. Yep. So, but you would still

1148
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:28,800
experience impactful attrition. Yeah, had you let Kilane leave and

1149
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:34,360
and I think that was probably evidence when an official

1150
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,440
offer was on the table and a handshake deal was

1151
00:56:36,519 --> 00:56:41,079
ultimately given and Klanie said, I'm all in. I just

1152
00:56:41,119 --> 00:56:45,159
have to go tell BYU and he told BYU and

1153
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:49,760
that's when BYU finally circled the wagons and they reacted,

1154
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:56,440
and and influential people Elder Rasband had to get involved,

1155
00:56:56,639 --> 00:57:01,440
Paddy Edwards had to get involved. Brian's pulling out all stops,

1156
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:09,400
contacting every single donor of prominence, of rapport, of influence

1157
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:14,159
and saying, hey, can you step up, can you do this?

1158
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:18,079
We don't want to lose Kilani and bravo O'Bryant, like

1159
00:57:18,159 --> 00:57:22,360
for you know, final hour, last minute, like you have

1160
00:57:22,679 --> 00:57:27,840
an offer from Penn State pending on on Kilanie's desk

1161
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,079
waiting to sign. He's probably showed it to him. They've

1162
00:57:31,199 --> 00:57:34,159
had a meeting on Sunday, they probably reconvened on Monday,

1163
00:57:34,719 --> 00:57:39,599
and lo and behold, they got the deal done. And

1164
00:57:39,679 --> 00:57:43,920
it's been reported Kilani's staying home. He's not leaving. He's

1165
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,800
gonna be the Polneser levelle Edwards. Some people think the

1166
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,599
repercussion for this is you could lose Jay Hill because

1167
00:57:50,639 --> 00:57:51,880
he eventually wants to be a head coach.

1168
00:57:52,239 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 6: I don't know, but maybe he got paid more because

1169
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:54,800
of this deal.

1170
00:57:55,079 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 4: You could say, look like you can try to still

1171
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,639
retain Jay you did last season. I believe Jay had

1172
00:58:01,679 --> 00:58:04,039
the job at Utah State before Bronco did. That's what

1173
00:58:04,079 --> 00:58:07,320
I believe. And so what does Bronco Manerhal make He

1174
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,400
makes two million? Well, if Bronco Manderhal's making two million,

1175
00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:13,639
I would say that Jay Hill's probably making two million,

1176
00:58:13,639 --> 00:58:16,039
which makes him a very highly paid. Look up the

1177
00:58:16,119 --> 00:58:19,480
highest paid assistant coaches in college football. For me, Jay

1178
00:58:19,559 --> 00:58:21,440
Hill's one of the highest paid assistant coaches I think

1179
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:25,480
in college football. So you met that need and you're

1180
00:58:25,519 --> 00:58:29,199
retained him. Now, will Jay continue to be at BYU,

1181
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,000
I don't know, Maybe wants to be a head coach.

1182
00:58:32,039 --> 00:58:34,079
What's one of the highest paid assistant coaches right now?

1183
00:58:34,079 --> 00:58:36,599
Speaker 6: So the highest paid assistant we talked about yesterday Jim Knowles,

1184
00:58:36,639 --> 00:58:39,920
defensive coordinator who was at Penn State yep. Mike den

1185
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,960
Brockett Notre Dame offensive coordinator making two million, Garrett Riley

1186
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,320
at Clemson offensive quarter making two million, Ryan Grubb at

1187
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:50,239
Washington OC making two Glenn Schuman the DC at Georgia

1188
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,760
he's making one point nine, so and then Tommy Reese

1189
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,440
at Alabama OC in one point nine, Kevin Steele at

1190
00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:00,480
Alabama DC making one point nine. So the top guys

1191
00:59:00,519 --> 00:59:02,599
are making two million.

1192
00:59:02,679 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 4: Basically, I'm tony that's probably what he's making, especially if

1193
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,360
he had an offer on the tim from Utah State,

1194
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:14,239
which would have been roughly two million dollars. So I

1195
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,280
think you can retain Jay. You guys did show him

1196
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,559
the vision of what being a b YU guys all about.

1197
00:59:19,599 --> 00:59:21,800
I don't know if you know j J just wants

1198
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,119
to be a head coach. I think if I was

1199
00:59:23,119 --> 00:59:25,320
going to value Jay, I think he wants to be

1200
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,960
a head coach. And so bravo to'brian and Shane and

1201
00:59:29,039 --> 00:59:32,360
Keith for retaining him and not letting him march down

1202
00:59:32,559 --> 00:59:35,559
the street to be the Utah State head coach. He

1203
00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:37,920
could get P four jobs in the future, and he

1204
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:43,039
maybe that's where he goes. He could get. You know,

1205
00:59:43,199 --> 00:59:45,280
you get you you have another season like you have

1206
00:59:45,519 --> 00:59:50,440
this this uh this season, and these donors from around

1207
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,559
the country are gonna say, well, BYU's cooking up something

1208
00:59:52,599 --> 00:59:55,719
really special. Let's go get Jay Hill because we know

1209
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,639
we're probably not getting Kilani now right, let's go get

1210
00:59:58,679 --> 01:00:01,960
And that's what you see, Like you see the offensive

1211
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:06,639
coordinator for Oregon get the call up, right, you see

1212
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:11,360
defensive coordinator for Clemson once again, like you know, get

1213
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,039
the call up to Oklahoma. You know what I mean?

1214
01:00:13,039 --> 01:00:16,239
You see these DC's and o c's typically get the

1215
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,280
call up, and that could happen in the near future.

1216
01:00:20,679 --> 01:00:23,360
But you also have to have a pipeline of different

1217
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,559
DC's and ocs that have connections. But they don't have

1218
01:00:28,599 --> 01:00:32,639
to be lds. Remember Jeff Grimes, not Olds. Christian Man

1219
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:40,239
came to BYU from LSU. Remember the figurehead for football basketball.

1220
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,159
I think they typically have to be card carry and

1221
01:00:42,239 --> 01:00:46,800
Latter Day Saints going Temple recommends all that stuff. But

1222
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,679
your coordinators don't, your position coach don't. They just have

1223
01:00:49,719 --> 01:00:51,840
to get the ecclesiastical endorsement and sign up for the

1224
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:56,920
honor Code. So just because you could potentially lose Jay

1225
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,599
Hill down there because he wants to be a head

1226
01:00:58,599 --> 01:01:02,280
coach does not mean you know that you're gonna all

1227
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,880
of a sudden drop off like you know on on

1228
01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:08,280
the defensive side of the ball. I don't. I don't

1229
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,760
see that happening. I think you have some very talented

1230
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,719
individuals in the pipeline. Now. I want to keep j

1231
01:01:14,039 --> 01:01:17,840
like pay him what it's worth to keep him. But

1232
01:01:18,039 --> 01:01:20,639
he may have aspirations to be a head coach. There

1233
01:01:20,679 --> 01:01:23,400
could be other guys on the staff that have aspirations

1234
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,119
to become head coaches. And you want to funnel that.

1235
01:01:26,159 --> 01:01:31,119
You wanna, you wanna you you want to foster that. Yeah,

1236
01:01:31,199 --> 01:01:33,400
you know as well, And you want to have a pipeline.

1237
01:01:33,639 --> 01:01:42,119
You you really do. But I'm not believing show goes.

1238
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:46,960
This is my home.

1239
01:01:47,639 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 3: Took me a second, final clean version, but I got it. Guys.

1240
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, buddy byu coach has begun to four people that

1241
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,360
he intends to stay at the school by using process

1242
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,239
of putting together a lucrative contract to keep him. Uh,

1243
01:01:59,239 --> 01:02:01,800
he's been in one. He's been one of many targets,

1244
01:02:02,039 --> 01:02:04,239
one of the main targets at Penn State, which he

1245
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:09,360
informed of his decision today. So yeah, the feedback that

1246
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:13,639
I got yesterday was there was another meeting between Brian

1247
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:18,920
and in Kilani and the reaction was essentially, let's get

1248
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,639
to work, let's focus on football, you know, after the

1249
01:02:23,039 --> 01:02:27,800
media availability, et cetera. It's let's get to work, let's

1250
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,920
focus on the Bigel Championship. Let's let's It was one

1251
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,599
of optimism that they were figuring it out and they

1252
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:40,199
provided an offering probably last night that that Kilanie could

1253
01:02:40,679 --> 01:02:45,159
could could buy into the investment. The action, not words,

1254
01:02:45,199 --> 01:02:47,159
but actions. You know as well as I do. Everyone

1255
01:02:47,199 --> 01:02:49,559
knows it's not what you say, it's what you do.

1256
01:02:50,119 --> 01:02:54,440
What are you willing to do? And was it at

1257
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:58,960
the eleventh hour? Yes, I don't like that. But sometimes

1258
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,920
by needs their arm twisted a little bit to react.

1259
01:03:02,199 --> 01:03:05,400
They think everybody is just going to be like, I'm

1260
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,920
willing and ready just to like do whatever you guys say.

1261
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,280
You guys are the you guys are the administrators. You

1262
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:17,440
guys have been called to lead, right we put trust

1263
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:21,039
in our leadership. Is that not our culture? Yeah, we

1264
01:03:21,159 --> 01:03:23,079
file in and we are part of that chain of

1265
01:03:23,119 --> 01:03:26,519
command and that's a good thing within the culture for

1266
01:03:26,559 --> 01:03:30,639
the most part. But in this situation, you know, sometimes

1267
01:03:30,679 --> 01:03:32,159
you may have to twist an armor to I hope

1268
01:03:32,159 --> 01:03:34,960
it changes. I hope you know you don't have to

1269
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,760
twist arms anymore in order to see value. I hope

1270
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:41,480
you don't need offers on the table from competing entities

1271
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:45,199
in order to see value. Does that make sense? Like

1272
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:47,440
that's where I have a bit of weeping waving and

1273
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,280
Ashton teeth and like we don't have to make it

1274
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,440
this way. We don't have to do it this way,

1275
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,320
and we don't have to underpay. I will continue to

1276
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:58,599
hit home. I think one of the most the most

1277
01:03:58,639 --> 01:04:01,679
powerful questions that we're ever at in our temple interviews. Okay,

1278
01:04:01,679 --> 01:04:03,719
I know I get a little spiritual here. Are you

1279
01:04:03,719 --> 01:04:05,239
honest in your dealings with your fellow man?

1280
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:06,159
Speaker 1: Right?

1281
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 4: You've heard that question before. I think paying fair market

1282
01:04:10,079 --> 01:04:16,440
rate for an honest day's work, that that requires a

1283
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:23,599
lot of stress, A figurehead, a voice of ambassador, ambassadorial

1284
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,039
discipleship of the university and of the Church of Jesus Christ,

1285
01:04:27,079 --> 01:04:30,280
a letter saints. I believe that's worth something. I really

1286
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,880
believe it's worth something. And market rate, in my opinion,

1287
01:04:34,159 --> 01:04:38,239
fair market rate is the honest thing to do in

1288
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:43,599
these situations. You know what I mean, everyone thinks the

1289
01:04:43,639 --> 01:04:48,239
filthy lucre is a hiss and a byeword. No, it's okay.

1290
01:04:49,119 --> 01:04:51,960
We can pay people. We can pay people their fair

1291
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:56,320
market rate. We can be fair in our dealings and

1292
01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:01,039
not say well, but you're at BYU. What's the delta? Right?

1293
01:05:01,159 --> 01:05:05,519
What's the what's the reduction in pay you're willing to

1294
01:05:05,559 --> 01:05:09,039
take in order to be at BYU in order to

1295
01:05:09,079 --> 01:05:13,920
have a little bit more balance sundays off right?

1296
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:15,119
Speaker 1: Right?

1297
01:05:15,239 --> 01:05:20,239
Speaker 4: Like a little bit your why means more here and

1298
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,199
you get to be a part of the BYU brand.

1299
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:25,679
There's that delta or that that reduction in pay. You

1300
01:05:25,719 --> 01:05:28,159
know there there is there is an element of that.

1301
01:05:28,639 --> 01:05:31,920
But we can't be so far off, especially when we've

1302
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:36,840
already set the standard with the other and the other

1303
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:40,719
flagship program within our school the way you basketball. So

1304
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,639
to me on the present, if you didn't do it,

1305
01:05:43,719 --> 01:05:45,639
if you did, if you were fair amongst all of it,

1306
01:05:45,719 --> 01:05:47,760
Like it's just like everyone gets a reduction to pay

1307
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,280
and it's a little bit lower. That would have been

1308
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,599
fine because that's the standard. But as soon as you

1309
01:05:53,679 --> 01:05:57,480
set that standard, okay, now you're gonna have to meet it. Yep.

1310
01:05:57,679 --> 01:05:59,440
Now you're gonna have to meet it, especially for your

1311
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:03,079
flagship PROG. All right, I've gone off on a tangent.

1312
01:06:03,199 --> 01:06:06,079
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