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Speaker 2: That's right, Coffee and Company here on Thanksgiving. Thank you
Speaker 2: guys for hanging out with us. Very thankful for our
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Speaker 2: Nick Coffee, and I've got a couple of company men
Speaker 2: that are with me throughout throughout the journey. Here Austin
Speaker 2: Montgomery who's with us today, the company man, mister John Alden.
Speaker 2: But like you guys are also part of the company,
Speaker 2: hence the name Coffee and Company. We're all together, yeah,
Speaker 2: and we have a lot of fun. So hopefully you
Speaker 2: guys have yourselves a very good holiday. And uh, I
Speaker 2: know you you dude, man, I mean, are you I
Speaker 2: kind of I kind of I'm kind of worried that, like,
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna be really taking in what is
Speaker 2: a great holiday Thanksgiving because I'm all in basketball mode, man,
Speaker 2: with Louisville beating the hell out of Indiana the way
Speaker 2: they did.
Speaker 3: Now, I know they're.
Speaker 2: Gonna be playing tomorrow, likely against Gonzaga, who, of course
Speaker 2: is you know, one of the best teams in the country,
Speaker 2: big test, no doubt. But like I'm struggling. I don't
Speaker 2: know if I'm going to be in Thanksgiving mode, but
Speaker 2: I really don't care. I've missed what it's like to really,
Speaker 2: you know, feel like this.
Speaker 4: Here's what the feeling is.
Speaker 5: You could finally talk at the table, both literally and figuratively,
Speaker 5: because you're finally there. But now, you know, in past
Speaker 5: years at the Thanksgiving especially, they know you as the
Speaker 5: Louisville guy.
Speaker 4: You're on air talking.
Speaker 3: About all of their families around here.
Speaker 5: You know, they start they start talking about it, and
Speaker 5: then you just kind of shy away, the Rodney danger
Speaker 5: Field pulling out the collar.
Speaker 4: Ah, I got, let's just change the subject. And now
Speaker 4: now let's talk hoops. Baby.
Speaker 5: Now we can bring it to the table, along with
Speaker 5: the stuffing, along with the turkey, along with the green
Speaker 5: bean cast role if he may.
Speaker 3: I'm not a green may castro count of either what's
Speaker 3: your goats? What are you well?
Speaker 2: And it's a it's a it's a very popular dish
Speaker 2: for Thanksgiving for a lot of people. It's just not
Speaker 2: really my cup of tea. I mean, there's really not
Speaker 2: a specific side when it comes to Thanksgiving that I
Speaker 2: just have to have. I mean they're all great, at
Speaker 2: least the ones that I like. But one that I've
Speaker 2: really become a fan of, that that I hope is
Speaker 2: a part of every Thanksgiving meal I am fortunate to
Speaker 2: eat over these next couple of days, is like I've
Speaker 2: become a big corn casserole or corn pudding guy. Oh
Speaker 2: really yeah, Like I never saw it coming, but it's delicious.
Speaker 2: And of course you got to have mac and cheese.
Speaker 2: They'd have the green beans. Stuffing not a huge stuffing guy.
Speaker 2: I like stuffing if it's got gravy on it. And
Speaker 2: uh but I can I can take her to leave it.
Speaker 2: Stuffing's fine. Like to me, I do stuffing to feel
Speaker 2: like it's Thanksgiving because I like turkey, like on sandwiches.
Speaker 2: I like turkey lunch me. But like turkey. I mean
Speaker 2: it's I mean, I don't think it's a superior meat.
Speaker 4: Bro No, But listen, I don't hate it.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of there's a lot of people that
Speaker 5: just don't like it or over the novelty of Thanksgiving
Speaker 5: as a well, I was about to say as a former,
Speaker 5: but as a now present fat guy, like I love
Speaker 5: Thanksgiving The only thing that always find overrated about it
Speaker 5: is just for the longest time growing up, like that
Speaker 5: was Thanksgiving dinner was also like your dinner for the
Speaker 5: next week, right, because there's so much leftovers and I
Speaker 5: can't stand leftovers in the first place. Everything has to
Speaker 5: be so fresh for me just because I'm pretential. No, no,
Speaker 5: my girlfriend hates it. My my parents always hated it.
Speaker 5: There could be something fresh from yesterday that no, I
Speaker 5: don't want it.
Speaker 4: It's already yesterday, but I don't know what.
Speaker 5: Once again, thank you Thanksgiving for spoiling leftovers for me,
Speaker 5: because that's usually.
Speaker 4: On the on the menu for the next week.
Speaker 3: Dude, I'm a big time leftover.
Speaker 4: I'm a big time food waster. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, my wife doesn't eat leftovers, just doesn't. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think she's probably on the same page with you
Speaker 2: to where it's just not even a thought to like
Speaker 2: eat something that was cooked previously, and like she's more
Speaker 2: so to eat leftovers of like her own cooking. Not
Speaker 2: because she's like a snob and only wants to eat
Speaker 2: what she said, but if it's like homemade stuff like
Speaker 2: you know, chili or soup or a certain dish like
Speaker 2: she'll do leftovers when it comes to that. But like
Speaker 2: at a restaurant, you know, I usually get spoiled because
Speaker 2: I'll eat my food and sometimes take home whatever I
Speaker 2: didn't finish, and then I'll take hers home too because
Speaker 2: I know she's not gonna eat it. So works out well, we.
Speaker 3: Make it work.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Thanksgiving is like, I'm so tired of people
Speaker 2: claiming that Thanksgiving just gets disrespected and it's insane how.
Speaker 3: People have already shifted to Christmas.
Speaker 2: And I get why people say that, because Thanksgiving is
Speaker 2: one of those days. I feel like as far as
Speaker 2: holidays that you just know that like nearly everybody is
Speaker 2: off work. Now there's certain jobs like first responders and
Speaker 2: just you know, unique careers, and I guess just unique
Speaker 2: jobs that you know you will have to work. But
Speaker 2: even but even even jobs that are open on Christmas
Speaker 2: that aren't first responders or you know, health like medical
Speaker 2: people that work in the medical field, Like even if
Speaker 2: you work at like a Walmart or a McDonald's, they'll
Speaker 2: have a certain part of their day where everybody's away
Speaker 2: and being able to spend time with their family on
Speaker 2: usually Christmas and Thanksgiving. So like, I think those are
Speaker 2: the two days where I just feel like when it
Speaker 2: comes to a holiday, you can just tell, you can sense,
Speaker 2: and you can feel that like everybody's off because we're
Speaker 2: celebrating this big day just once a year. But with Thanksgiving. Look,
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving is a day. Christmas is a season. Like it's
Speaker 2: that easy to understand why Christmas is treated differently than Thanksgiving,
Speaker 2: Like I do you know, I guess just become a
Speaker 2: crotchety old man. That's like, why do people keep bringing
Speaker 2: up that, Like what we don't have to debate like
Speaker 2: what's better? You can like one over the other, and
Speaker 2: you can say Thanksgiving should get more love. But again,
Speaker 2: Christmas is a season in every aspect of it, Like
Speaker 2: it's the twenty five days of Christmas, like there's so
Speaker 2: much that comes with it. Thanksgiving is literally just a day,
Speaker 2: just the day, and it doesn't mean it's not great,
Speaker 2: but it's just the day. That's why Christmas is treated
Speaker 2: differently than any other holiday. And yes, I'm I'm very
Speaker 2: much a homer for Christmas because I love Christmas. But
Speaker 2: Thanksgivings ray too, and I'm looking forward to it. And man,
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving tomorrow is going to be certainly better now that
Speaker 2: Louisville beat the hell out of Indiana eighty nine to
Speaker 2: sixty one. I said this at the beginning of the show,
Speaker 2: and I'll say it once again.
Speaker 3: If you are unaware of the score, you've.
Speaker 2: Been disconnected because you've got you know, you're at work,
Speaker 2: or you're just tied up doing whatever you may be doing.
Speaker 2: Maybe you were away from connectivity and you just found
Speaker 2: us right now. And I tell you that Louisville one,
Speaker 2: eighty nine to sixty one over number fourteen Indiana today
Speaker 2: in the Bahamas. I believe that you would not believe me.
Speaker 2: I think you would assume that I'm making that up.
Speaker 2: You would probably say, there's no scenario that happened. And
Speaker 2: it's not just because you know Louisville one, but because
Speaker 2: of the score. But what if I told you this,
Speaker 2: It wasn't even as close as the score indicated. Louisville
Speaker 2: eighty nine to sixty one, a twenty eight point beat down,
Speaker 2: by the way, one of their biggest wins ever against
Speaker 2: a ranked team as far as margin. Let me pull
Speaker 2: up the number again, really quicker, just to reference, because
Speaker 2: it does speak to how impressive it is for Louisville.
Speaker 2: And of course how embarrassing it is for this for
Speaker 2: this Indiana team. But yeah, Louisville winning today against They
Speaker 2: won by twenty eight points against number fourteen Indiana. It's
Speaker 2: the largest margin of victory against a ranked opponent since
Speaker 2: they beat Yukon eighty one to forty eight in twenty fourteen,
Speaker 2: and that was the AC the American Conference championship game.
Speaker 2: And you know what's crazy, that Yukon team went on
Speaker 2: to win the national championship and it pains me to
Speaker 2: know that that Louisville team could have had back to
Speaker 2: back titles. But you know what, it also is great
Speaker 2: because that Yukon team kept Kentucky from winning another one
Speaker 2: under Calipari, which I'm happy happened. So this is the
Speaker 2: biggest win versus the top fifteen team since nineteen eighty
Speaker 2: six when Louisville beat Virginia Tech one O three to
Speaker 2: sixty eight. And it's the biggest ever against a team
Speaker 2: that is in the top fourteen, which is a you know,
Speaker 2: top fourteen is not something you typically here mentioned, but
Speaker 2: when it comes to I mean, this is the most
Speaker 2: they've beat somebody buy that is that in that tier there.
Speaker 2: But also again, like I'm not even kidding you when
Speaker 2: to time, it should have been a lot uglier. Louisville
Speaker 2: put the walk Ons in with a couple of minutes left,
Speaker 2: Indiana scored seven points. They went on a seven zero
Speaker 2: run with less than thirty seconds into the game. We're
Speaker 2: talking about a you know, a couple of quick buckets
Speaker 2: and a three after a steal at the buzzer to
Speaker 2: give you a twenty point or twenty eight point beat
Speaker 2: down instead of a thirty five point blowout. So again,
Speaker 2: it was not as closed as the score indicated. Woodson's
Speaker 2: out there pressing with its starters when the walk Ons
Speaker 2: are in, and to be fair to him, I get
Speaker 2: it because you know the numbers matter now like you
Speaker 2: need to not get it beat as bad and you
Speaker 2: need to beat teams really bad. When it comes to
Speaker 2: every night, no matter who you play, there's something you
Speaker 2: can do to potentially improve or I guess worse than
Speaker 2: your situation. When it comes to resume, it sounds kind
Speaker 2: of silly, like some say that you should cap it
Speaker 2: to where hey, a thirty point victory and a fifty
Speaker 2: point victory is treated the same, but they don't do
Speaker 2: it that way. Therefore, that's why you're seeing some teams
Speaker 2: go out there and try to win by sixty if
Speaker 2: they can, Louisville probably wouldn't have been able to do
Speaker 2: wouldn't have been able to do that today. But I
Speaker 2: wonder if Pat Kelsey didn't have to worry about getting
Speaker 2: his guys ready for a game twenty four hours late,
Speaker 2: or I guess really less than twenty four hours later,
Speaker 2: then maybe he would have left the starters in and
Speaker 2: not emptied the bench, and maybe it would have been
Speaker 2: a forty point beat down.
Speaker 3: But I said this.
Speaker 2: Earlier on the show and had some people reach out
Speaker 2: on the text line, not really answering the question, but
Speaker 2: sort of I guess assuming that I was probably right,
Speaker 2: which that's right. We don't have to look it up.
Speaker 2: We don't have to do our homework. We can just
Speaker 2: assume what I say is true. I kind of like that,
Speaker 2: But I think this Kenny Payne probably. In fact, I
Speaker 2: know Kenny Payne lost more games, but you know he
Speaker 2: lost games about twenty eight points or more. But I
Speaker 2: think the reason like Indiana fans are so beside themselves
Speaker 2: is because one Indiana, even in years they're not very good,
Speaker 2: doesn't lose the way they lost today.
Speaker 3: Louisville won twelve.
Speaker 2: Games the last couple of years, came into this game
Speaker 2: unranked and Indiana was favored. So you know, I tell
Speaker 2: you what, man, when it comes to this kind of
Speaker 2: a beat down, I think it's safe to say that
Speaker 2: this was a loss that's probably worse than any of
Speaker 2: the losses Kenny Payne had as far as just how
Speaker 2: bad it was, Like I thought throughout the game, especially
Speaker 2: in the second well the second half. I mean, I
Speaker 2: thought to myself, there was a sequence that Louisville put
Speaker 2: together that really just buried Indiana, and then at times
Speaker 2: it got a little worse, and then they would slowly
Speaker 2: but surely make a bucket to kind of stop the bleeding.
Speaker 2: But I really had to question if I was really
Speaker 2: watching what I was watching, like is this really happening?
Speaker 3: And it was great.
Speaker 2: I'd like to experience that again tomorrow on Thanksgiving if
Speaker 2: we can. Much easier said than done, because you know,
Speaker 2: you're likely going to be playing one of the best
Speaker 2: teams in the country in Gonzaga.
Speaker 3: But I don't know, let me check the score here,
Speaker 3: have we seen an update?
Speaker 2: Because last commercial break, I went to the restroom and
Speaker 2: at that point I think West Virginia had gone on
Speaker 2: a little bit of a run and it was close,
Speaker 2: but I haven't checked since then. I probably should have
Speaker 2: done that during the break. Let's see here right now. Wow,
Speaker 2: three minutes left and West Virginia is up one on Gonzaga.
Speaker 3: So how about that shout out?
Speaker 5: We actually just had a call or call in that said,
Speaker 5: I don't know, we might be playing Virginia. He didn't
Speaker 5: even want to talk, He just wanted to kind of
Speaker 5: lead that one out there.
Speaker 3: You mean West Virginia. Did you say Virginia.
Speaker 4: Because it's way what did I say? Virginia?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, not West Virginia. No, No, he was right. I
Speaker 4: was wrong.
Speaker 2: So I mean what, I kind of want West Virginia
Speaker 2: to win because it gives you an easier path to
Speaker 2: potentially find yourself playing for the Battle for Atlanta's championship.
Speaker 2: But also, if West Virginia can compete with Gonzaga, give
Speaker 2: me Gonzaga because that would be a much more valuable win. Right, Like,
Speaker 2: you can't control her. They're gonna play who they're gonna play.
Speaker 2: And to be fair, Louis's not a team that can
Speaker 2: look at a West Virginia upset here and think they
Speaker 2: can just roll in and win. I mean, they're gonna
Speaker 2: have to play well and play hard, and I think
Speaker 2: they will. But I'm kind of torn here. I kind
Speaker 2: of think I'd rather have Gonzaga. But then again, like
Speaker 2: maybe be careful what you wish for. And I don't
Speaker 2: say give me Gonzaga because I know Louisville's got to
Speaker 2: match up advantage and they're gonna beat him. I just
Speaker 2: more so mean, like I would love the opportunity to
Speaker 2: see Louisville get a chance to get another real valuable win.
Speaker 2: Now some would say, well, if West Virginia beat him
Speaker 2: and then you beat them, how valuable is it. Well,
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I feel in Zag at the
Speaker 2: end of day is gonna end up being a much
Speaker 2: better team than West Virginia at the end of the season,
Speaker 2: regardless of what happens today. So you know, we'll see
Speaker 2: what happens. But before we get to a break and
Speaker 2: then we're gonna get your phone calls to stick with us.
Speaker 2: If you're on hold, I promise you we're gonna get
Speaker 2: to you. But I mentioned Indiana kind of just being
Speaker 2: you know, distraught and dumbfounded by the embarrassment that took
Speaker 2: place today and Dan Dockich, a former ESPN analyst, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, I know Docic is not a super
Speaker 2: popular guy around here. And Dockage, I mean, I think
Speaker 2: his brand that he wants to have is just to
Speaker 2: be kind of unlikable. Now he claims he's just being
Speaker 2: real and telling you like it is, but like, I
Speaker 2: don't think Docage wants to be liked. I think that's
Speaker 2: kind of just his his brand. But he's a really,
Speaker 2: really good basketball analyst. And you can't say that around
Speaker 2: here without people throwing stuff at you, because you know,
Speaker 2: some people just think he's the worst.
Speaker 3: And I get it.
Speaker 2: But if you just take away the personality, you take away,
Speaker 2: you know, the prickliness of Dan Dockicch and you just
Speaker 2: I mean, he he ESPN lost a valuable basketball analyst
Speaker 2: when he when he got fired or left whatever happened.
Speaker 2: Now he's talking politics, which just whatever. I don't care
Speaker 2: about that. I'm just saying, like, he's really good at
Speaker 2: talking hoops. And he apparently has been out front saying
Speaker 2: that Indiana's got some problems here with Mike Woodson, and
Speaker 2: he did about two minutes on Twitter after the game
Speaker 2: and Austin. I don't I checked it there. I don't
Speaker 2: think there's any cursing that we would have to dump,
Speaker 2: but just be careful in case I might have missed something.
Speaker 2: But here's Dan Dakich after Indiana got their ass kicked
Speaker 2: today by by Louisville.
Speaker 6: So I sent the same thing to Woodson and Whitman.
Speaker 6: Just now, look, I'll give Indiana fans a little hint.
Speaker 6: Only two coaches since Bob Knight have been successful in Indiana.
Speaker 6: Half of Tom Crane and Calvin Samson both just emphasized toughness.
Speaker 6: That's it. Calvin Samson's not a great coach. Calvin Samson
Speaker 6: can't begin to coach near what Bob Knight could. Tom
Speaker 6: Crean's not even in that conversation. But when Crean came in,
Speaker 6: he talked about toughness. Then he got a little full
Speaker 6: of himself and got kind of stupid, and he, I guess,
Speaker 6: had to go. I didn't think he should have, but
Speaker 6: Samson was gonna be successful. Samson didn't care about offense defense.
Speaker 6: He just cared about toughness. I sent that to Woodson
Speaker 6: and I sent that to Whitman, and I'll laugh at
Speaker 6: all you guys and get mad at me about TikTok
Speaker 6: videos little guys Cooper, Cup and Galloway acting like I
Speaker 6: don't know. I didn't want to say little girls because
Speaker 6: little girls are tougher. So Indiana gets embarrassed. They spent
Speaker 6: over a million dollars on a fat ass center that
Speaker 6: can't run up and down the court. They're an entitled
Speaker 6: team that never talks about toughness. Now again, I said
Speaker 6: they're going undefeated, but I always say they're going undefeated.
Speaker 4: That was embarrassed. That was a mess.
Speaker 6: That was god awful, and I got to assume it's
Speaker 6: a one off right now, right, But when you watch
Speaker 6: that fat ass center, and you watch how silly, stupid
Speaker 6: and ridiculous that Galloway kid is and that Cup is,
Speaker 6: and I've learned that half the team is tired of
Speaker 6: those two and their social media stupidity, you might have
Speaker 6: a real problem. We'll see. Anyway Indiana gets embarrassed, they'll
Speaker 6: win tomorrow and it'll be back to winning a national championship.
Speaker 6: I put us on everybody involved with the program. If
Speaker 6: you're at Indiana, you talk about toughness. If you don't,
Speaker 6: you get your ass kicked.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, if I believe the wow social
Speaker 2: media dancing on TikTok is why they're not tough. But
Speaker 2: to be fair to Dockage, you know, Indiana did have
Speaker 2: an advantage physically, but they didn't.
Speaker 3: I mean you wouldn't have known.
Speaker 2: I mean physically, you would have known just by watching,
Speaker 2: meaning like just looking at the pound per pound presence
Speaker 2: that they had in the post.
Speaker 3: Louiel didn't have much of that at all. But Louisville was.
Speaker 2: Tougher and and you know, along with other you know,
Speaker 2: toughness was one of the many reasons why Louisville was
Speaker 2: able to win the way they won the day, and
Speaker 2: it was awesome to see. And I mean, I hope
Speaker 2: Indian ends up being good this year because obviously that'll
Speaker 2: be good for Louisville. I don't know if they're going
Speaker 2: to be, but I will say this, the talent is there.
Speaker 2: I mean, they have good players in Louisville did a
Speaker 2: lot of good things to take that away, and really
Speaker 2: it was dictating the style of play in the tempo.
Speaker 2: And what that did is that let Indiana never get comfortable.
Speaker 2: They got sped up without realizing, and then sure enough
Speaker 2: Louisville just kind of boomed them, I mean, and just
Speaker 2: kind of took the game over and they took a
Speaker 2: good lead into the half and then really got it
Speaker 2: rolling right out of it. I mean, in fact, the
Speaker 2: first first two plays of the second half were not
Speaker 2: great Louisville. I think they had an empty possession, offensively
Speaker 2: gave up a transition bucket, and I think it might
Speaker 2: have been Debbie Antonelli who had said, that's the first
Speaker 2: time I've seen Indiana beat Louisville down the floor. That
Speaker 2: was the first two plays of the game, first two
Speaker 2: plays of the second half. Well, then after that, Louisville
Speaker 2: just started running them out of the gym and it
Speaker 2: was a beautiful thing.
Speaker 4: He called Gabe Cup Cooper Cup.
Speaker 2: Did he Yes, Well, the fat ass center that he's
Speaker 2: referring to. And I mean, I'm just referencing what he said.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing the name calling Omar Ballo is. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's he's talented, he's really big, but he's become a
Speaker 2: guy that, like, you don't even have to follow college
Speaker 2: basketball that closely to know that there's a reputation that
Speaker 2: he's kind of lazy. There's been some plays that have
Speaker 2: surfaced on you know, people clipping a clipping something on
Speaker 2: Twitter and putting it up there where it's just like,
Speaker 2: all right, there's really no excuse for that, for this
Speaker 2: lack of effort that's out there. And you know today,
Speaker 2: I mean, he clearly and I don't know, I don't
Speaker 2: know if it was due to him not given everything
Speaker 2: he had.
Speaker 3: I don't think he played that hard.
Speaker 2: But either way, I'm not sure would have mattered, because
Speaker 2: again Louisville Toms looked forty points better than Indiana today,
Speaker 2: which again was a beautiful thing. All right, quick break,
Speaker 2: we'll come back on the other side, talk a little
Speaker 2: more football. College football playoff rankings are out, get back
Speaker 2: into this Governor's Cup matchup, and the first thing we'll
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Speaker 2: Well done, mister Montgomery. This is the ultimate Thanksgiving anthem here.
Speaker 4: It started from this.
Speaker 2: This was like before TikTok right like this, I think
Speaker 2: this became a thing before TikTok had kind of exploded.
Speaker 2: And it's just some woman at some woman thinks you
Speaker 2: the preacher, right yes, and somebody decided Shirley Caesar.
Speaker 3: Man is that guy still?
Speaker 2: Who is it that that was so good at taking
Speaker 2: a viral clip of somebody yelling or singing and like,
Speaker 2: you know, putting a beat to it and like making
Speaker 2: a jam out of it. I can't think of who
Speaker 2: it was because he had a tagline before any anyways,
Speaker 2: it's not relevant, but that was that was one of
Speaker 2: something like that. That was one of his That was
Speaker 2: one of his best there because that that that that
Speaker 2: just goes like it's until you hear that song, yeah,
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving or fourth of July like that that that just
Speaker 2: that works.
Speaker 3: It's good stuff.
Speaker 2: So yeah, good stuff there, all right, Coffee and Company
Speaker 2: feel by Thorton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Appreciate
Speaker 2: you hanging out with us as we get you said
Speaker 2: for Thanksgiving. I'm very very thankful for a lot of things,
Speaker 2: including what we saw today. And I'll be even more
Speaker 2: thankful if, in fact, on Saturday, Louisville is able to uh,
Speaker 2: to get the Governor's cut back where it belongs. Been
Speaker 2: a long time, you know, I I don't want to
Speaker 2: give you the same thing I've given you anytime this
Speaker 2: game comes up. But I swear last year I remember thinking,
Speaker 2: all right, that sucked in a major way, but silver
Speaker 2: lining one, you're going to the a SEC Championship game. Still,
Speaker 2: that loss didn't take you out of the playoff. You
Speaker 2: weren't getting in either way. And also, there's no way
Speaker 2: we'll ever have a worse loss than that to Kentucky.
Speaker 2: So let's just get it out of the way. And
Speaker 2: here we are a year later, and I this is
Speaker 2: just my opinion. I think that a loss here would
Speaker 2: be worse than the loss last year, and I don't
Speaker 2: even think it would be close. But I'm well aware
Speaker 2: that other people view it differently, and that's totally fine.
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to change your mind. I'm just here
Speaker 2: to tell you what I think and how I see it.
Speaker 2: But I think Kentucky being as bad as they are
Speaker 2: this year, and you know, every number, metric, anything you
Speaker 2: reference will tell you that this Kentucky team is not
Speaker 2: very good. Now, they've got talented players. I think they've
Speaker 2: got some guys that are going to play in the NFL,
Speaker 2: but that hasn't helped them against some of the bums
Speaker 2: that have beat them this year on their home field.
Speaker 2: So you know, I guess it depends on how it looks,
Speaker 2: but I think a loss to Kentucky would be I mean,
Speaker 2: it's not going to change anything for my life. It's
Speaker 2: not going to ruin my life. It's not going to
Speaker 2: it just I feel like it would be as devastating
Speaker 2: as any loss that we've had to them. But also
Speaker 2: just because like I'm like, if that happens, and I
Speaker 2: don't think it will, and I certainly hope that it doesn't.
Speaker 2: Like maybe I'm a little bit more prepared for it
Speaker 2: to deal with it, But I don't think anybody really
Speaker 2: knows how they're going to react, how they're going to
Speaker 2: feel when it comes to the rivalry games, rather it
Speaker 2: be a win or a loss, because again, it's just
Speaker 2: a different feeling than anything else, because it means a
Speaker 2: lot more, and I wish more would embrace that that
Speaker 2: this is not a mean, this game really means very
Speaker 2: little to everyone outside of fans and coaches. I guess,
Speaker 2: I mean, players obviously want to and they want to compete,
Speaker 2: but the players come and go. Coaches stick around at
Speaker 2: least they want to. They want to be here for
Speaker 2: a long time, right, So you know, I'm sure it's
Speaker 2: a little bit different for them. And how you do
Speaker 2: against your rival is a big factor in how your
Speaker 2: fans are going to treat you. So you know, outside
Speaker 2: of coaches, it's just fans. This game that Kentucky, if
Speaker 2: they get it, it's not going to change the fact
Speaker 2: that they had a terrible season. They're not going to
Speaker 2: a bowl game. They went one and seven in their league. Now,
Speaker 2: I think it would make it feel even better to
Speaker 2: know that they could be this terrible and still beat Louisville, which, again,
Speaker 2: that's my point is why it would be such a
Speaker 2: devastating loss if that's what happens for Louisville. A win
Speaker 2: does nothing, and I mean nothing as far as like
Speaker 2: your season and the type of bowl game you go to.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe you would get a better bowl at eight and
Speaker 2: four rather than seven and five. Well, let's be real,
Speaker 2: these bowl games have for years now seemed to kind
Speaker 2: of flat and meaningless. It's going to be a different
Speaker 2: level of that now that you've got twelve teams in
Speaker 2: the playoff, and everybody who does want to stick around
Speaker 2: in college football, they're going to have to decide if
Speaker 2: they want to go to the portal. And I think
Speaker 2: players will know, hey, if I go to play in
Speaker 2: this bowl game, I could get hurt. But also I'm
Speaker 2: getting a late start. There's already other guys in my
Speaker 2: position in the portal that a team would take, and
Speaker 2: I would like to be that player that they take.
Speaker 2: So I'll bring all that up to say, again, this
Speaker 2: is just about bragging rights around here, and Louisville has
Speaker 2: not had bragging rights when it comes to this game
Speaker 2: and this matchup in far too long. And I have
Speaker 2: oftentimes talked about how Kentucky football has made substantial improvement,
Speaker 2: and really they're in a different world than they were
Speaker 2: pre Mark Stoops. But because of that, it's also made
Speaker 2: them think that they've accomplished something that really they haven't.
Speaker 2: And again, props to them for being a lot better
Speaker 2: than they really, you know, have ever been. But you know,
Speaker 2: you'd have them coming into the offseason here and there
Speaker 2: of the last four years thinking that they might be
Speaker 2: competing for the SEC East, which is ludicrous, but like
Speaker 2: they would believe that, and I would love to clown
Speaker 2: on them, but you know what, and we can you know,
Speaker 2: and just say like, hey, you're not that good, and
Speaker 2: we can take satisfaction when they get beat but they
Speaker 2: beat us every year since twenty seventeen. So like it's
Speaker 2: you know, what's it say about us if they're if
Speaker 2: they're continuingly to, uh, you know, get it done in
Speaker 2: this rivalry game. So you know, with that said, you
Speaker 2: know you need to get the cutback. And I don't
Speaker 2: think that the gap has really been there between the
Speaker 2: two programs.
Speaker 3: But let's be real.
Speaker 2: On the field, that is, it's looked like they were
Speaker 2: I mean last year was just last year was a
Speaker 2: competitive game and louisll let them hang around, and they
Speaker 2: made some mistakes and Kentucky took advantage. And uh and
Speaker 2: I think last year they were pretty evenly matched when
Speaker 2: it comes to personnel. I really do believe that. And
Speaker 2: Louisville did what you have to do to lose that game,
Speaker 2: and credit to credit to Kentucky for forgetting to win.
Speaker 2: But in years before that, whenever Satterfield was here, I mean,
Speaker 2: it looked like I mean, dare I say boys against men?
Speaker 2: I mean I hate to say that because that that's
Speaker 2: you know, Louisville had some good players that I really
Speaker 2: you know, some of those guys are having success in
Speaker 2: the NFL right now. Ya Adabi is Sira Abdullah. I
Speaker 2: mean Louisville had good players in the Sadarfield era, but
Speaker 2: like the mindset, the mentality of the program under him
Speaker 2: was not was not good enough. It didn't match Kentucky
Speaker 2: when it comes to their fight, when it comes to
Speaker 2: their importance of this game. And I think last year
Speaker 2: that wasn't the case. Little didn't lose because they weren't
Speaker 2: into it. They didn't lose because they didn't match Kentucky's
Speaker 2: edge when it comes to just being up for the game.
Speaker 2: And this year, if in fact, you meet that once
Speaker 2: again and maybe hopefully exceed it, meaning you come and
Speaker 2: you are the aggressor, you are ready to go, you're sharp,
Speaker 2: you're not sloppy. You should win this game. And it
Speaker 2: really shouldn't even be that close. I don't think you're
Speaker 2: gonna blow them out, but I mean it shouldn't be
Speaker 2: you know, it shouldn't be a game where you feel like,
Speaker 2: you know, in the third quarter, gosh will be lucky
Speaker 2: to win, So I feel like Louisville will win. I
Speaker 2: think that feeling is a little bit of wishful thinking
Speaker 2: on my part. But also, let's be real, Louisville as favored,
Speaker 2: they've had a substantially better season than Kentucky, and Kentucky
Speaker 2: being what. This is where it's rare because I think
Speaker 2: in years, I mean, when's the last time Kentucky entered
Speaker 2: this rivalry game with a losing record? I mean, usually
Speaker 2: they've already got seven wins or I guess usually I
Speaker 2: guess they've got six or seven by the time we
Speaker 2: get to this.
Speaker 5: Game, or they're playing for that Bowl for the bull
Speaker 5: el eligibility.
Speaker 4: Like last year, right, weren't they weren't they already had six?
Speaker 2: Okay, And that's the thing is that they were, like
Speaker 2: they weren't great last year, and they weren't great the
Speaker 2: year before. They were underwhelming the last two years as
Speaker 2: far as what their expectations were because they started talking
Speaker 2: suc East. But this is next level bad for them.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, this is not only a Louisville team
Speaker 2: that I think despite their four losses, and again, three
Speaker 2: of those came against really good teams in games that
Speaker 2: Louisville could have and should have won, and it's you
Speaker 2: know what it could have should. They don't get credit
Speaker 2: for winning games they didn't win. But you know, this
Speaker 2: is a rare element in the matchup that does you know,
Speaker 2: I know, throw it out the window, right, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: It's a new it's a new ball, a new season
Speaker 2: all that. You know, it's cliche, but you know, cliches
Speaker 2: or cliches for a reason. But the new element that
Speaker 2: I'm referring to is that this is a Kentucky team
Speaker 2: that really has never been this bad since. You know,
Speaker 2: when SIPs got there and he took over with Joker,
Speaker 2: that was one thing. And then after he kind of
Speaker 2: got settled in. If you remember Louisville two straight seasons
Speaker 2: and it was phenomenal. Louisville kept them from going bowling
Speaker 2: like that was great. You remember in twenty and fourteen
Speaker 2: it was Lamar was no, I'm sorry, not fourteen, it's
Speaker 2: Kyle bowling, right, No, So in two thousand and in
Speaker 2: two and fifteen, Kyle Bolan came in for the injured
Speaker 2: Reggie Bonifon, who got rocked and really never never.
Speaker 3: Really played successfully at quarterback after that.
Speaker 2: If my memory serves correct, and Bowling comes in and
Speaker 2: he's a gamer. He's a guy that is built to
Speaker 2: come off the bench loose and just go out there
Speaker 2: and make play. He's not a guy that has all
Speaker 2: the talent, but he has enough. And you know what
Speaker 2: else he had out there, a guy named Devonte Parker
Speaker 2: who he could just throw it up to and Kentucky
Speaker 2: wouldn't double team him, and all it took was him
Speaker 2: just relying seemingly every play on, hey, I've got Devonte Parker,
Speaker 2: let me go throw them the ball and figure out
Speaker 2: if they're ever going to be able to stop him.
Speaker 2: And they really weren't. Now with it, a very forgotten
Speaker 2: performance in that game that was insanely impressive, but it
Speaker 2: was in a losing effort, and he I think left
Speaker 2: early and again a forgotten guy for Kentucky.
Speaker 3: You remember the name.
Speaker 2: Boom Williams for Kentucky running back, of course, he was
Speaker 2: phenomenal in that game, and it was kind of like
Speaker 2: those two guys. It was Boom Williams for Kentucky that
Speaker 2: just you know, wouldn't be denied on the ground. And
Speaker 2: then obviously Demonte Parker could not be defended and Louisville
Speaker 2: was down, looked like it was gonna not happen for him,
Speaker 2: and then sure enough they fought back and they won,
Speaker 2: and they kept Kentucky from going to a bowl game.
Speaker 2: A year later in Lexington, Kentucky's up twenty one to nothing.
Speaker 2: They had gone through three different quarterbacks that year. It
Speaker 2: was Kyle Boland, Reggie, and Lamar. Lamar was a true freshman. Well,
Speaker 2: Lamar didn't start the game, but he came in and
Speaker 2: put up video game type performances and quite literally made
Speaker 2: them look foolish because he just single handedly erased the
Speaker 2: deficit and Louisll ended up blowing them out. They were
Speaker 2: down twenty one nothing, ended up winning the game by
Speaker 2: I think about twenty one point points. And it's just
Speaker 2: something you remember because it's almost something that just doesn't
Speaker 2: seem real. But after the game, I don't know who
Speaker 2: the coordinator was on defense for Mark Stoops at the time.
Speaker 2: And obviously he's a guy that is very much involved in,
Speaker 2: you know, the defensive I mean, he's a defensive coach.
Speaker 2: That's that's why he's at Kentucky. That's how he ended
Speaker 2: up getting a chance to be a head coach because
Speaker 2: he was very successful as a decordinator. But what I'm
Speaker 2: getting at is they said after the game one of
Speaker 2: the players, I forget which one it was. That, I mean,
Speaker 2: they just admitted that they never even prepared as if
Speaker 2: Lamar was going to play, not because they didn't think
Speaker 2: he was good enough, not because I mean, not because
Speaker 2: he never plays. They just for some reason in their
Speaker 2: game plan. They just because Bowland's the guy who picked
Speaker 2: him apart, and really just you know, had a great
Speaker 2: game against him the year before. He's from Lexington. This
Speaker 2: game's there. I think they just assumed it was going
Speaker 2: to be his day, and when it wasn't his day,
Speaker 2: Bobby put Lamar in, and Lamar, I mean, that's low
Speaker 2: key one of Lamar's best performances statistically, just because Kentucky
Speaker 2: had no answer for him. And then, of course a
Speaker 2: year later they beat Louisville when they were twenty seven
Speaker 2: point underdogs, which of course was a real punch to
Speaker 2: the gut. And then the game that they forget about,
Speaker 2: and it was the last.
Speaker 3: One the Louisville won.
Speaker 2: Like Lamar has a winning record, made Kentucky look foolish
Speaker 2: every game he played. I mean, even the game they lost.
Speaker 2: He was still phenomenal, and they bring up the fumble,
Speaker 2: of course, but the next year he went down there
Speaker 2: to Lexington and toyed with him and they couldn't compete.
Speaker 2: They started throwing trash cans. Really just acted like complete fools.
Speaker 4: Forgot about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah you move the trash can.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the fight. They had a fight on the side,
Speaker 4: and one guy got ejected.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 4: He was Jordan Jones was his name.
Speaker 2: He could he could not he could not contain himself
Speaker 2: from wanting to either fight Lamar Jackson or maybe like
Speaker 2: make love to him.
Speaker 3: Look, it was really odd.
Speaker 2: He could not help himself, like he wanted to just
Speaker 2: be He wanted on him. And you know, I'm sure
Speaker 2: Lamar was like easy, dude, it's a football game. So
Speaker 2: you know, Famili's here exactly. So you know, when when
Speaker 2: Kentucky in those games, I mean, Kentucky wasn't as good
Speaker 2: as Louisville in those games they lost. They weren't as
Speaker 2: good as Lovelle twenty sixteen when they beat m I
Speaker 2: mean again, they were better in that game, and that's
Speaker 2: all that matters. But like Kentucky didn't go out there
Speaker 2: and really proved that Louisville wasn't any good. It was just,
Speaker 2: you know, Louis let him hang around long enough, and
Speaker 2: the defense fell apart with Todd grant them at the
Speaker 2: end there, and you know, credit Stephen Johnson. Stephen Johnson,
Speaker 2: that's one of the best performances I've seen from many
Speaker 2: quarterback in this rivalry series. Stephen Johnson, I think he's
Speaker 2: kind of a forgetting guy. Maybe I say that as
Speaker 2: a non Kentucky fan. Maybe he's very well beloved and
Speaker 2: remembered by Big Blue Nation. But he was so poised,
Speaker 2: and I don't know how talented he was, but he
Speaker 2: was talented enough, and he was a gamer, and he
Speaker 2: made some plays in that game that were phenomenal and
Speaker 2: that's how they were able to win. So this Kentucky
Speaker 2: team limping in with a one in seven record in
Speaker 2: league play, they do have a win against ole Miss,
Speaker 2: which does show that they can beat a good team.
Speaker 2: Ole Miss isn't great, but they're still a really good
Speaker 2: team with talent, and Kentucky went down there and beat
Speaker 2: them in Oxford, but they also lost at home by
Speaker 2: double digits to Auburn and Vandy. I don't know, Vandy
Speaker 2: got him by double digits, but Vandy beat him. And
Speaker 2: in Vandy, by the way, is a good example here
Speaker 2: because when it comes to when it comes to the
Speaker 2: Kentucky being no longer the doormat of the SEC, they
Speaker 2: then think like they're about to go from thirty years
Speaker 2: of being irrelevant in football for the most part to
Speaker 2: thinking they can compete for the East, like they're getting
Speaker 2: way ahead of themselves.
Speaker 3: That's like Vandy this year.
Speaker 2: Vandy having a pulse and not being quite literally the
Speaker 2: worst power program in the country has led to people
Speaker 2: trying to tell you that beating Vandy is a quality
Speaker 2: win and losing to Vandy is understandable, and like that's
Speaker 2: just not reality. You can live in that world if
Speaker 2: you choose to, but you're thereby yourself and everybody else
Speaker 2: is looking at you like you're a fool. So again,
Speaker 2: none of that means that the Kentucky's for sure going
Speaker 2: to lose to Louisville. I'm just saying this is a
Speaker 2: different level of Kentucky being in this situation late where
Speaker 2: they have, I mean, they're defeated, like they're pretty lifeless.
Speaker 3: As a fan base.
Speaker 2: I think their guys probably will come out with a
Speaker 2: little bit of urgency and a spark because it's the
Speaker 2: Governor's Cup game. They know, hey, we've been bad this year,
Speaker 2: but hey we do pretty good in this situation. Let's
Speaker 2: see if we can do it again. We've got a
Speaker 2: new quarterback out there. The freshman's going to throw it
Speaker 2: all over the yard. We got a new life on offense.
Speaker 2: But I think what Louisville can do is get off
Speaker 2: to a good start. And I believe a good start
Speaker 2: for Louisville maybe a ten ozher ten and nothing start. Somehow,
Speaker 2: I think that will end Kentucky season. They'll go and
Speaker 2: it's not because they're just gonna quit and say all
Speaker 2: the hell with this, I'm done. It's the human element
Speaker 2: that I reference all the time that nobody seems to
Speaker 2: really account for. Like when you've taken the lumps they've
Speaker 2: taken this year, and you know, the noise out there
Speaker 2: about your program right now is that your fans don't
Speaker 2: want your coach to come back. It's all it takes
Speaker 2: is a little bit of adversity and then you go
Speaker 2: right back like you can't snap out of a funk
Speaker 2: that they've established this season as quickly as people think
Speaker 2: you can. So I think it's really important for Louisville
Speaker 2: to get off to a really good start because I
Speaker 2: think if Kentucky gets off to a really good start,
Speaker 2: that could spell for disaster. And what I mean by
Speaker 2: that is that could be to where Kentucky does in
Speaker 2: fact cling to this new life that they have and
Speaker 2: maybe they know a lot younger think or they maybe
Speaker 2: they can in that moment, in that game, those four quarters,
Speaker 2: they can remove all of the you know, the funk
Speaker 2: if you will, that they've established throughout a disastrous season
Speaker 2: that really there's no excuse for Kentucky in you know,
Speaker 2: previous worlds could be one in seven, four and seven
Speaker 2: overall and you would just say, well, what are you
Speaker 2: gonna do? It's Kentucky football, like they're just they're inept,
Speaker 2: but not now. They've got talent on this team and
Speaker 2: it's resulted in them being very underwhelming and just bad.
Speaker 4: Again.
Speaker 2: They're alone in fifteenth place by themselves out of sixteen
Speaker 2: teams in the SEC. So again, all this stuff I'm
Speaker 2: bringing up about Kentucky, it's not because I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: they suck, They're so bad, they're so terrible. Louisville's going
Speaker 2: to roll about thirty I'm just emphasizing why I tell
Speaker 2: you that this would be a disastrous loss for Louisville
Speaker 2: because if they can beat you with this team, it
Speaker 2: really is like what do we I mean, why do
Speaker 2: we play the game? And I'm not saying we should
Speaker 2: not play it. I'm just saying, like, can you ever
Speaker 2: expect a victory if you can't get this one? And again,
Speaker 2: it's also tricky because I'm well aware that they're not
Speaker 2: one in seven in league play because they are terrible.
Speaker 2: So anyways, quick break will come back on the other side,
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Speaker 2: It'll be Louisville and West Virginia, not Gonzaga tomorrow on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: So a couple of upsets to get the day started
Speaker 2: in the battle for Atlantis. I don't know how many
Speaker 2: people are even familiar with this West Virginia team. They've
Speaker 2: of course had a rough few years. The ending of
Speaker 2: the Bob Huggins era wasn't a good one. They were
Speaker 2: really bad last year, but they made a coaching change,
Speaker 2: and they went and hired Devreze who was the Drake
Speaker 2: coach and his son's the hell of a player he
Speaker 2: brought in with him, and I think they brought a
Speaker 2: few players from Drake with them.
Speaker 3: And they weren't having a great start.
Speaker 2: I mean, they they did blow out Robert Morris and
Speaker 2: their opener, which is what you'd expect. They had a
Speaker 2: close game with the UMass team that's really really bad.
Speaker 2: They lost to Pittsburgh by twenty four points just a
Speaker 2: week or so ago, and then they did beat up
Speaker 2: on Iona before making the trip to the Bahamas. But
Speaker 2: they just knocked off number three Gonzaga in overtime. So
Speaker 2: clearly Louisville has a more I guess manageable path to
Speaker 2: the championship. But if West Virginia can do that to Gonzaga,
Speaker 2: you know you got to come ready to play.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'll take it.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean by that when it comes
Speaker 2: to like the Gonzaga win would certainly have given you
Speaker 2: a little bit more of a resume boost. But the
Speaker 2: counter that would be, well, if you beat them after
Speaker 2: Westgi well, I guess if you if West Virginia lost
Speaker 2: to them, then you would have been you had have
Speaker 2: been giving gonzagular first loss in not West Virginia. But look,
Speaker 2: I'll take it after a beat down like we saw today,
Speaker 2: eighty nine to sixty one. Again, the score wasn't even
Speaker 2: as close as you would unless you if you watch
Speaker 2: the game, you know the game was a lot, a
Speaker 2: lot uglier than the twenty eight point victory that you
Speaker 2: see on the scoreboard. But now they've got a chance
Speaker 2: to go get another win that I would imagine, you know,
Speaker 2: West Virginia with their win against Gonzaga, the metrics, the
Speaker 2: numbers are gonna are gonna really jump for them to
Speaker 2: where with the I'll put it this way, the ACC
Speaker 2: is really really bad this year, and I don't we
Speaker 2: don't need to get into that today, but like ACC basketball,
Speaker 2: it's sad what it's become. I mean, I think Duke
Speaker 2: and Carolina are still gonna end up being really good teams.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, those two teams
Speaker 2: have now played two really good teams and lost both games.
Speaker 2: I mean, Carolina got blasted by Auburn last night. Duke's
Speaker 2: now lost to Kentucky and to Kansas, which again not
Speaker 2: bad losses, but your best teams are playing other league's
Speaker 2: best teams and losing, and then everybody else in the league.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure any of them are that good.
Speaker 2: So with all that said, a win against West Virginia
Speaker 2: will probably end up looking a little more valuable at
Speaker 2: the end of the year than some of the games
Speaker 2: you're gonna play in the ACC because there's not a
Speaker 2: lot of great options out there's not a lot of
Speaker 2: great quality wins you can get, at least doesn't look
Speaker 2: like it right now. All right, Austin, you got any
Speaker 2: feeling real quick on this on this Governor's Cup game,
Speaker 2: I haven't even haven't even thrown it to you. I
Speaker 2: feel like you're kind of in the mindset of, like,
Speaker 2: you know, Louisvill's better and shit, man, but after what's
Speaker 2: happened in the last what six seven times.
Speaker 3: Like it's hard to just say you expect it to happen, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, I mean it's it's ast for you. It's
Speaker 5: always no I think you did. You just kind of
Speaker 5: nailed it on the head. It's like a sort of
Speaker 5: cautiously optimistic kind of thing, because I mean, just go
Speaker 5: out there and beat a bad Kentucky team. They're at
Speaker 5: their lowest right now. Just go ahead and give them
Speaker 5: the coup de gras if you will. And it's just
Speaker 5: if something happens and this is I mean, it might
Speaker 5: just be a little bit tougher than we expected, but
Speaker 5: I am still expecting a win. However, on the same end,
Speaker 5: like I would not be surprised whatsoever if we get
Speaker 5: a tough game when Kentucky's in. But I mean, Jeff
Speaker 5: Brown knows the assignment like you've You've nailed it constantly
Speaker 5: ever since last year. He's probably thought about that game
Speaker 5: more than anybody has and more than any other game
Speaker 5: that this year. So I think that this is a
Speaker 5: huge redemption spot for them, And I have to echo
Speaker 5: your sentiment. If you can't beat them at their lowest
Speaker 5: right now, then when when the hell can When is
Speaker 5: it going to happen?
Speaker 4: Yes? When when's it gonna happen?
Speaker 2: Well said? All right, quick break, We'll keep this thing
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