WEBVTT 1 00:00:11.240 --> 00:00:19.559 At a. 2 00:00:28.600 --> 00:00:28.879 Book. 3 00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:28.959 If you'd like to be able to listen to the 4 00:01:28.959 --> 00:01:31.959 show without ads and have full access to bonus content, 5 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:35.359 that's an option. To find out how, please go to 6 00:01:35.480 --> 00:01:41.799 Dogmenencounters dot com forward slash podcast. If you've listened to 7 00:01:41.879 --> 00:01:43.560 the show for in the length of time, there's a 8 00:01:43.599 --> 00:01:46.400 good possibility you've listened to tonight's guests come on and 9 00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:49.959 talk about his prior experiences with dog men. Well, as 10 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:52.560 you might have noticed, some people seem to be magnets 11 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:55.879 for these things, and tonight's guest would definitely fit into 12 00:01:55.879 --> 00:01:58.879 that category. Well, as fate would have it, he had 13 00:01:58.879 --> 00:02:01.840 another encounter earlier this weekend. That's what he's come back 14 00:02:01.879 --> 00:02:04.959 to tell us about tonight. Of course, I'm talking about 15 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:08.800 Al sant Riga. Al, thanks so much for coming back. 16 00:02:09.639 --> 00:02:10.800 Thanks for having me Vic. 17 00:02:11.560 --> 00:02:14.800 Oh, you're welcome. No, anytime I get an opportunity to 18 00:02:14.840 --> 00:02:17.800 bring you on, I jump at it. So yeah, glad 19 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:21.560 to do it now. As you know, too much of 20 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:25.360 anything is normally a bad thing. Look at what happened 21 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:29.039 with Dobermans. For example, in the seventies, there was this 22 00:02:29.199 --> 00:02:32.319 craze where all these people wanted to get Doberman's. Well 23 00:02:32.319 --> 00:02:35.199 what comes along with that. You had all these backyard 24 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:38.199 breeders breeding them. Well, next thing you know, you've got 25 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:43.919 all these unstable dogs running around biting people and all that. Well, 26 00:02:44.360 --> 00:02:48.360 talking about the whole dogma phenomenon, this dogmiath thing is 27 00:02:48.439 --> 00:02:51.719 really grown wings and taken off. What are your thoughts 28 00:02:51.719 --> 00:02:53.520 on that? Do you see that is a good thing 29 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:54.280 or a bad thing? 30 00:02:56.159 --> 00:02:58.319 I think it's a double edged sword, to be honest. 31 00:02:59.080 --> 00:03:01.039 I think it's a good thing that more people are 32 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:05.080 aware of what's out there. I think it's a bad 33 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:11.120 thing because of COVID. Everybody and their mother are podcasters now, 34 00:03:11.439 --> 00:03:16.000 and not everybody's as professional as you, And I think 35 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:19.240 people are just looking for content, and I think people 36 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:22.439 are making stuff up just to get on the radio. 37 00:03:22.599 --> 00:03:26.680 And you're getting a lot of bad intel on these creatures, 38 00:03:26.759 --> 00:03:28.719 you know what I mean. And there's a lot of 39 00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:35.199 people giving their professional opinion and stating they should do this, 40 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:38.759 that and the other thing, when I think their opinion 41 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:41.879 is one hundred percent wrong and they should stay in 42 00:03:41.919 --> 00:03:45.560 their lanes. But you know, I'm just one man. That's 43 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:46.800 just one man's opinion. 44 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:50.840 Well that's not just one man's opinion. I agree with 45 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:53.919 pretty much everything you said. There are a lot of 46 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:57.759 people making creepy pasta that they present as being true stories, 47 00:03:57.840 --> 00:04:00.400 which it's no secret I hate that, think it's a 48 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:04.319 horrible idea. But what you talked about the people who 49 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:08.319 are putting out information, putting out opinions, I should say, 50 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:12.840 but they're treating them like their fact when it comes 51 00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:16.040 to advice on how to handle a dog man encounter, 52 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:18.720 putting out bad info about dog men that might get 53 00:04:18.759 --> 00:04:22.079 someone killed. I've got a big problem with that as well. 54 00:04:22.120 --> 00:04:25.079 And you touched on that just a moment ago all 55 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:28.120 the other stuff, it kind of ruffles my feathers. But 56 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:31.839 when people are putting out info that could quite possibly 57 00:04:31.879 --> 00:04:35.600 get someone ended about these guys about dogmen, I have 58 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:38.399 a big problem with that. What do you think is 59 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:42.399 the biggest lie that's being spread about these guys that 60 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:45.439 might cause that to happen, might cause a person to 61 00:04:45.480 --> 00:04:46.079 be ended. 62 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:51.360 Oh well, My personal opinion, again just one man's opinion, 63 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:54.800 is that I think there are so many people out 64 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:59.360 there doing podcasts and a lot of them being invited 65 00:04:59.399 --> 00:05:03.360 to some poseums and presentations, and they're all claiming that 66 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:08.519 these creatures are bloodthirsty killers and they're not I've had 67 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:14.519 so many encounters with them, so many different locations. If 68 00:05:14.560 --> 00:05:17.160 that was the case, I would be dead ten times 69 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:20.560 over already, you know what I mean. So, no, they're 70 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:24.639 not bloodthirsty killers. And no, you shouldn't shoot at these 71 00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:28.319 creatures when you see them in the woods because you're scared. 72 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:34.600 You should just walk away, you know, and let them 73 00:05:34.639 --> 00:05:37.360 do what they're doing, and you go on and you 74 00:05:37.480 --> 00:05:41.399 do your own thing. But they're not all bloodthirsty kills. 75 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:44.560 If that was the case, there would be so many 76 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:49.759 more hikers missing and investigators found dead in the woods. 77 00:05:51.000 --> 00:05:53.160 I think you hit it on the head, but you know, 78 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:55.879 it is fear cells when these people make up these 79 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:59.120 fake stories that they present as being true ones. Yeah, 80 00:05:59.160 --> 00:06:03.519 every time you turn the it's about this mindless dog 81 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:05.319 man that's going to rip you a part. As soon 82 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:09.199 as the opportunity presents itself. That sells, I get it. 83 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:12.199 But what they don't think about, or don't care about, 84 00:06:12.360 --> 00:06:14.279 is the fact that you've got so many of these 85 00:06:14.279 --> 00:06:18.759 eyewitnesses who've had encounters, real encounters with these guys that 86 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:21.800 they're barely able to deal with. Some can't deal with 87 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:26.040 their encounters. They listen to this crap think they're true stories, 88 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:29.519 and then now they're having an even harder time dealing 89 00:06:29.560 --> 00:06:32.040 with their encounters. That's where I come in. I have 90 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:34.199 to talk them off the ledge and try to help 91 00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:37.199 them understand that no, this didn't happen. That didn't happen. 92 00:06:37.879 --> 00:06:42.240 So yeah, it's not a victimless deal here. There's definite 93 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:44.800 blowback to that. And you know, I haven't hidden the 94 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:48.480 fact that I'm really frustrated by it. I really am. 95 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:51.879 Yeah, I understand that, absolutely. 96 00:06:52.079 --> 00:06:57.480 Oh definitely. But it seems like also what comes along 97 00:06:57.519 --> 00:07:00.879 with this popularity increase, You've got so many people who 98 00:07:00.920 --> 00:07:02.439 are heading out into the woods that want to be 99 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:07.519 quote unquote dog mean investigators. Well you're a dogman investigator, 100 00:07:07.720 --> 00:07:10.319 a well tenured one. What are your thoughts on that? 101 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:14.480 I say, don't go into the woods looking for these things. 102 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:18.600 That's what I tell everybody when people ask me, where 103 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:20.639 do I have to go to find them? Or what 104 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:23.680 do I need to do when I when I where 105 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:25.879 do I what I need to do to bring them in? 106 00:07:26.040 --> 00:07:28.279 Or what do I need to have on me to predict? Say? 107 00:07:28.360 --> 00:07:31.680 Tell them the same thing all the time. Don't go 108 00:07:32.319 --> 00:07:36.319 looking for these things. Be careful what you wish for. 109 00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:41.079 These things are not cuddly little puppies that you can 110 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:47.000 play with, little balls of fur. No, these are alpha 111 00:07:47.279 --> 00:07:53.000 predators and if they're in the woods hunting, they're hungry. 112 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:55.199 The last thing they want to do is be bothered 113 00:07:55.240 --> 00:07:58.759 by you. You don't want to get on one's wrong side, 114 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:03.000 you know. And like I said, they're not all bloodthirsty killers. 115 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:08.439 But it doesn't take much to piss something off that's 116 00:08:08.560 --> 00:08:13.360 looking to hunt and feed itself or it's family. And 117 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:16.839 then you're in this way, you know what a fake 118 00:08:17.000 --> 00:08:20.600 calls to bring it in and a spotlight to blind 119 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:23.720 it or something, you know what I mean. Yeah, you 120 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:26.680 could rub one the wrong way very easily, and then 121 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:30.160 things could get bad very quickly. You know. I tell people, 122 00:08:30.519 --> 00:08:34.960 don't go I don't go out looking for these things anymore. 123 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:39.159 I know where they are. I don't go where they are. 124 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:42.480 I go in the opposite direction. If we happen to 125 00:08:42.519 --> 00:08:47.159 cross paths, we cross paths. But that's it. You know, 126 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:52.320 there's really no reason to be searching for these creatures. 127 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:56.399 They there should be left alone, you know, just leave 128 00:08:56.519 --> 00:09:01.360 them alone and let them live and let live, you know, 129 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:05.360 to sas squatch, the whole different animal sasquatches, a much 130 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:11.200 more non aggressive still you know, an alpha predator, but 131 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:16.440 much more less aggressive. Where the bigfoot sees you, it 132 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:18.759 turns and it walks back the way he came. It 133 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:21.679 doesn't want to deal with us. It knows we're nothing 134 00:09:21.720 --> 00:09:25.799 but trouble. But a dog man tends to get off 135 00:09:25.919 --> 00:09:32.399 on feeding off of our fears and scaring us. Another 136 00:09:32.480 --> 00:09:36.399 thing that irks me is just again it's one man's opinion. 137 00:09:36.840 --> 00:09:39.840 When people say, oh, I've seen the dog man and 138 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:45.000 he smiled at me. I don't think it was a smile. 139 00:09:45.399 --> 00:09:48.519 I don't believe the dog man is smiling at you. 140 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:52.519 I think he's showing you his teeth to let you 141 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:57.039 know that if he wants you, he can take you 142 00:09:57.120 --> 00:10:00.679 at any given time. It's not a smile. Well, don't 143 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:04.360 smile and wave back, don't take his picture. He's not 144 00:10:04.519 --> 00:10:09.960 smiling at you. That's a warning. That's a warning for 145 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:13.279 you to turn and go the other way. With EU 146 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:16.759 opinion on that, I don't know. 147 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:20.399 I think they do actually smile, and eyewitnesses because they're 148 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:24.360 so intelligent. I sure do. Because they're so intelligent and 149 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:26.159 they know how to push our buttons. I think they 150 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:29.919 most definitely do smile that eyewitnesses because they know if 151 00:10:29.919 --> 00:10:33.039 they smile at us, that's going to push our buttons 152 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:35.399 out much more, and they'll do anything they can in 153 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:38.519 a lot of cases to get that response out of us. 154 00:10:38.799 --> 00:10:42.320 So it's my opinion that they actually are smiling at 155 00:10:42.399 --> 00:10:45.600 us when eyewitnesses say that that's what they experienced. 156 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:48.799 Okay, I mean, you know, like I said, it's one 157 00:10:48.840 --> 00:10:54.279 man's opinion. You know that your opinion is as good 158 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:58.919 as mine, So I just don't see it. But again, 159 00:11:00.279 --> 00:11:03.799 I don't know how I'll explain it. I mean, I've 160 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:07.120 been around dogs my whole life. I trained dogs, and 161 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:10.639 I've seen them shell their teeth, you know what I mean, 162 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:14.679 And they do look like they're smiling, but absolutely they do, 163 00:11:15.360 --> 00:11:18.799 but they're not really smiling. They're just warning you to, 164 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:22.360 you know, back off. But you could. But again, these 165 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:27.360 creatures are so intelligent that it wouldn't surprise me if 166 00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:31.399 it's smiling at you to freak you out, you know 167 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:34.799 what I mean. So it could be a smile. I guess. 168 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:38.159 Well, like you said, I mean, you might be right 169 00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:41.120 about that. I might be right. Who knows, It's really 170 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:43.559 hard to say. I will tell you this though, I 171 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:46.639 have had a dog actually smile at me before, and 172 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:49.480 it was one of the creepiest things. My cousin this 173 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:52.679 was about thirty forty years ago, now, I guess over 174 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:56.360 forty years ago. My cousin had a blue tick, I'm sorry, 175 00:11:56.360 --> 00:12:00.240 a yellow tick. And I went up in petitor. I'd 176 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:02.639 never met her before. I was just bending over and 177 00:12:02.679 --> 00:12:05.320 I was scrunching under her neck, and next thing I know, 178 00:12:06.000 --> 00:12:08.000 she shows me all of her teeth. But it looked 179 00:12:08.039 --> 00:12:11.519 different than a dog bearing its teeth. Something about it 180 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:15.279 was different. But it was just creepy, freaky looking. So 181 00:12:15.399 --> 00:12:17.320 I went over to him and I told him about 182 00:12:17.320 --> 00:12:19.440 what I had just seen, and he said, yeah, that's so. 183 00:12:19.519 --> 00:12:22.120 And so she was smiling at you. She has a 184 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:26.759 reputation for doing that. It's I can't even words, can't 185 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:29.200 do it any justice. But it was the freakiest thing 186 00:12:29.240 --> 00:12:33.559 I've seen she actually did. She moved her up her lips, 187 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:37.639 so for a dog, it looked like a smile. Never 188 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:41.360 seen that since, but that was just the creepiest thing. 189 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:44.720 Holy cow, Yeah, that's wild. And I've never in all 190 00:12:44.759 --> 00:12:49.159 the years I've dealt with dogs and stuff, had anything 191 00:12:49.240 --> 00:12:53.080 like that happened. That's pretty unique. I guess for that, 192 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:54.720 maybe for that breed. I don't know. 193 00:12:55.879 --> 00:12:58.559 Yeah, I don't know. She was wagging her tail and 194 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:02.919 clearly happy, just yeah, smiling, I guess you could say. 195 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:05.879 And she was looking me right in the eye with 196 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:09.080 this kind of wait for your response type look. I 197 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:11.080 guess that's the best way you could put it, because 198 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:12.879 that's the first thing I did was look into her 199 00:13:12.919 --> 00:13:15.639 eyes to see what I could see about her mindset, 200 00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:19.320 and it was just creepy. Holy cow, make the heir 201 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:20.399 in your butt stand up. 202 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:25.799 Yeah, that's new to me, that's for sure. Absolutely, So 203 00:13:25.840 --> 00:13:27.519 maybe I am wrong. I don't I don't want to 204 00:13:27.559 --> 00:13:31.279 backpedal on what I just said. But nobody knows for sure. 205 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:35.039 That's right, No one does know. If you've had a 206 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:37.399 dog mean encounter that you need help dealing with, or 207 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:39.080 if you'd like to be a guest on the show, 208 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:42.960 please go to Dogmanencounters dot com and submit a report. 209 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:45.639 If you've had a bigfoot sighting, we'll like to be 210 00:13:45.679 --> 00:13:48.039 a guest on one of my two big foot podcasts, 211 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:52.480 please go to my Bigfoot Sighting dot com. All right, 212 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:55.639 al well, please tell us about this most recent encounter. 213 00:13:55.759 --> 00:13:58.200 Now give us a relast detail that comes to mind. 214 00:13:59.279 --> 00:14:04.440 Okay, Monday, we had a storm blow through. I live 215 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:07.720 in the Hudson Valley in New York State. We had 216 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:12.360 a storm blow through. So Tuesday was my day off, 217 00:14:12.399 --> 00:14:14.159 and I went around the yard and I picked up 218 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:16.799 all the sticks and everything that came down off the trees. 219 00:14:17.919 --> 00:14:22.320 Right now, in my town, we have a non burn 220 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:26.720 thing going on. We can't burn during the day. But 221 00:14:27.200 --> 00:14:31.519 they didn't say anything about fire pits that night. So 222 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:33.440 what I did was I picked up all the sticks 223 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:35.720 that were in the yard because I wanted to cut 224 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:40.759 the grass on Sunday, and I threw them all. I 225 00:14:40.799 --> 00:14:43.240 threw them all in the fire pit, and I figured, 226 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:45.240 you know what, I'll get rid of them tonight. I'll 227 00:14:45.240 --> 00:14:47.600 do a fire pit. I'll sit outside with the hose 228 00:14:47.679 --> 00:14:50.279 and listen to the Yankee game and have a beer 229 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:55.840 and just chill out, you know. So I did that. 230 00:14:56.080 --> 00:14:58.240 I was out in the backyard and I was and 231 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:01.480 I had my pistol group shot done with me because 232 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:05.720 recently we've had black bears coming down out of the 233 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:10.039 woods and looking in the back door, and one of 234 00:15:10.080 --> 00:15:14.600 the bears ripped open my neighbor's retaining wall because he 235 00:15:14.679 --> 00:15:17.039 had to be hive in it or something, you know. 236 00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:20.759 And so I'm sitting by the fire pit and I 237 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:23.440 don't have my backyard set up yet. It's like I 238 00:15:23.559 --> 00:15:26.440 do in the summer with the tiki torches and the 239 00:15:27.000 --> 00:15:30.080 and the bug lamps. And I have an orange lamp 240 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:34.200 that I have that sits on the gazebo over the fire, 241 00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:37.639 over the gas grill. I usually have that on. So 242 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:39.840 I'm just sitting out there in dark, and I had 243 00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:43.320 my shotgun, but my shotgun has one hundred luma flesh 244 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:45.919 light on it. The pistol grip has a hundred loum 245 00:15:45.919 --> 00:15:47.879 of flesh light. And I'm sitting out there listening to 246 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:51.240 the game and watching the fire burn. And it was 247 00:15:51.279 --> 00:15:54.919 around nine o'clock, I would say it was late late 248 00:15:54.919 --> 00:15:59.159 innings of the game. And I heard all this commotion 249 00:15:59.480 --> 00:16:02.720 coming down out of the woods behind my house. I 250 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:05.919 have one hundred acres of woods that used to be 251 00:16:06.480 --> 00:16:10.080 all apple orchards, and when the apples fall from the trees, 252 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:12.639 we had a lot of deer that come through these woods. 253 00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:15.480 And I know for a fact we've had big foots 254 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:19.519 coming through here well across the street from my house. 255 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:22.799 I have one hundred acres of wetlands, so you know, 256 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:26.360 I'm pretty used to the sasas watches coming by. But 257 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:29.080 later in the year when the apples are on the 258 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:32.720 trees and stuff like that. But I'm sitting outside and 259 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:34.960 I hear all this commotion in the woods and it 260 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:39.639 sounds like two bulldozers were coming down the hill. And 261 00:16:39.840 --> 00:16:45.159 something is screaming to high heaven, just a scream that 262 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:48.240 I've never heard before, and it's something is screaming for 263 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:52.799 its life. And I'm sitting in my yard and I 264 00:16:53.240 --> 00:16:56.120 turned on the flash light because I hear something coming 265 00:16:56.159 --> 00:16:59.320 down the hill. And my neighbor to the right of me, 266 00:16:59.440 --> 00:17:02.519 he has a fire pit is in the shape of 267 00:17:02.559 --> 00:17:06.920 a half octagon. It's all made out of cinder block. 268 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:11.720 It's at least six seven feet high. And I'm hearing 269 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:16.880 something run up the cement blocks, so I shine the 270 00:17:16.960 --> 00:17:20.839 light over at the cement blocks to see what's there. 271 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:23.720 And I see this raccoon run up this tiny little 272 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:28.519 skinny tree, and then right behind it, I see this 273 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:31.720 dog man grab the skinny tree and start shaking it. 274 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:36.200 At that point, the raccoon jumps over to the next tree, 275 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:38.839 which is about the same size, maybe seven inches in 276 00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:42.759 diameter all the way around. Not big ones, you know, saplings, 277 00:17:43.039 --> 00:17:46.440 but they're up there. They're up there about I would say, 278 00:17:46.759 --> 00:17:49.720 twenty five thirty feet tall, you know, even though they're 279 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:56.160 skinny and I'm looking at this dog man, it doesn't 280 00:17:56.160 --> 00:18:00.960 even know I'm there. It's it's totally oblivious to when 281 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:04.480 it reaches up to the tree that the raccoon is on, 282 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:09.000 and the raccoon is climbing to the top, and it starts. 283 00:18:09.759 --> 00:18:13.000 It first started to shake the tree, and then it 284 00:18:13.240 --> 00:18:16.480 grabbed the tree and it started to pull the tree down, 285 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:20.920 bending the tree over, almost like in an arch kind 286 00:18:20.960 --> 00:18:25.519 of shape. So I got up and I walked over 287 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:32.079 very quietly. I walked over and when it turned around, 288 00:18:32.119 --> 00:18:34.000 cause the whole time it was shaking a tree and 289 00:18:34.039 --> 00:18:35.960 pulling a tree down, it had its back to me. 290 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:40.200 But then it turned around to face the raccoon, and 291 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:43.799 it was like pulling the tree down hand over hand. 292 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:48.400 And at that point it's facing me and it's the 293 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:52.920 tree is bent down. I don't know if the creature 294 00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:55.240 is standing on the ground or if the tree has 295 00:18:55.319 --> 00:19:01.000 lifted it off the ground, because I'm only seen from 296 00:19:01.039 --> 00:19:06.319 midwaist up because the wall is so high, and I'm 297 00:19:06.359 --> 00:19:08.880 looking at this thing and it's pulling, and I'm looking 298 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:13.359 at the raccoon, and the raccoon is screaming for its life. 299 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:17.839 And I looked back at this creature and the light 300 00:19:17.960 --> 00:19:22.079 hits it in the eyes, and it's as it's pulling 301 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:27.039 this tree down hand over hand. Time has slowed down. 302 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:33.960 Vic It's surreal. I can't I can't emphasize that enough. 303 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:38.400 It's like time has slowed down. And this thing looks 304 00:19:38.440 --> 00:19:43.119 at me and subconsciously, I don't know if it's muscle memory. 305 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:49.440 I don't know if it's uh, what do you call that? 306 00:19:50.880 --> 00:19:55.759 Fight or flight? But I cocked the gun and I 307 00:19:55.839 --> 00:19:58.319 put him around in the chamber. Now, the thought of 308 00:19:58.599 --> 00:20:05.799 shooting it never crossed my mind. I never had a 309 00:20:05.839 --> 00:20:08.279 conscious thought of I should put around in the chamber. 310 00:20:08.359 --> 00:20:14.319 But my arm just cock that gun naturally. I don't 311 00:20:14.359 --> 00:20:17.559 know where that came from. I wasn't thinking of doing it, 312 00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:21.720 but it did. And the minute it heard that sound, click, click, 313 00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:27.920 it looked at me and it let go of the tree. 314 00:20:28.119 --> 00:20:31.240 And what I thought the tree was going to bounce 315 00:20:31.279 --> 00:20:33.960 straight back up, the tree never went back up. The 316 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:38.279 tree is still bent over in the arch position. And 317 00:20:39.319 --> 00:20:42.519 I ran over to the fire pit because I heard 318 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:46.839 it take off up the woods. And when I ran 319 00:20:46.960 --> 00:20:48.839 over to the side of the fire pit, I'm in 320 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:53.160 my yard, but I'm towards I'm on the back end 321 00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:56.319 of the fire pit. I'm flashing the flashlight up into 322 00:20:56.359 --> 00:21:02.759 the woods, and the crazy thing I've ever seen, this 323 00:21:02.920 --> 00:21:07.400 creature ran directly up, ran directly up the woods north, 324 00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:11.559 up the woods on two legs, never went down on 325 00:21:11.680 --> 00:21:18.519 all fours, and it's serpentimed going up the hill. And 326 00:21:18.559 --> 00:21:23.240 I couldn't get over the fact that this creature was 327 00:21:23.359 --> 00:21:28.720 surpentime going up the hill. I was like, I can't 328 00:21:28.720 --> 00:21:32.680 believe because I'm seeing the leaves move from my left 329 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:36.680 and I'm hearing I'm hearing all these leaves and sticks break, 330 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:39.200 and then it's going to the right and I'm hearing 331 00:21:39.279 --> 00:21:42.519 sticks and branches break to the right, and I'm seeing 332 00:21:42.559 --> 00:21:45.640 branches moving. And it did this all the way up 333 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:48.759 the hill as far as my one hundred lima fleshlight 334 00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:54.559 could shine. And I was just dumbfounded by that fact 335 00:21:55.079 --> 00:21:59.359 that this creature knew what I was doing. When I 336 00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:02.160 loaded down gun, when I put around in the chamber, 337 00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:11.400 and it knew enough to run but to serpentine, but 338 00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:14.720 it never went down to all fours. It ran leaning 339 00:22:14.799 --> 00:22:16.920 over because it was running up hill. And it may 340 00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:20.000 have even been using its front arms to pull itself 341 00:22:20.119 --> 00:22:23.039 up the mountain as it was going that I couldn't tell, 342 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:27.720 but it was just mind boggling. And then I looked 343 00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:31.240 at the raccoon on the on the tree and he's 344 00:22:31.319 --> 00:22:34.640 just ending here looking at me, screaming like he was 345 00:22:35.200 --> 00:22:39.480 just shocked. And I walked back to the fire pit 346 00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:42.160 and I put the fire out, and I think the 347 00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:45.000 Yankee game was even over at that point. I don't 348 00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:47.200 you know what I mean, I kind of lost track 349 00:22:47.279 --> 00:22:51.519 of the game. And I put the fire out. I 350 00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:54.440 covered the pits so no ashes would blow around or 351 00:22:54.519 --> 00:22:57.519 any air wind would start the fire back up. And 352 00:22:57.559 --> 00:23:01.720 I went inside and my wife came out of the 353 00:23:01.759 --> 00:23:04.519 bedroom and she's like, what's going on out the hair? 354 00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:06.839 A lot of screaming because she's in the bedroom watching 355 00:23:06.920 --> 00:23:11.279 TV and the bedroom window faces the backyard so she 356 00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:14.000 can hear all that. Plus she has all kinds of 357 00:23:14.079 --> 00:23:18.960 animals out here that she feeds, foxes and deers and birds. 358 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:22.319 We have four cats that have heated cat houses. We 359 00:23:22.359 --> 00:23:26.519 have a skunks, we have possums, we have raccoons, we 360 00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:30.839 have turkeys during the day. We have everything. And we 361 00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:35.400 have a black bear now too, apparently. And she came 362 00:23:35.440 --> 00:23:37.759 out and she said, what was all that noise, you know? 363 00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:40.759 And I was like, no, it was nothing, you know. 364 00:23:40.920 --> 00:23:43.880 And I'm unloading the shopgun and she goes, what's wrong 365 00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:45.920 with you? And I was like, no, nothing's wrong with me. 366 00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:49.880 You know, I'm okay. And then I did something that 367 00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:52.519 was totally out of character for me. I went to 368 00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:56.000 the liquor cabin and I poured a shot whiskey and 369 00:23:56.039 --> 00:23:59.559 she's like, you're having a shot at Jamison And I go, yeah, 370 00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:02.599 I feel like a shot at Jamerson, but you never drink. 371 00:24:02.640 --> 00:24:04.880 And I was like, I feel like a shot, so 372 00:24:04.920 --> 00:24:06.960 I'm going to have a shot. So I had a 373 00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:11.680 shot at Jamerson because in my head, I'm still trying 374 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:15.640 to wrap my brain around everything that just happened. Meanwhile, 375 00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:18.480 having a conversation with her, you know, and I don't 376 00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:22.039 want to tell her what I just experienced because I 377 00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:24.599 don't want her to be afraid to go into her 378 00:24:24.640 --> 00:24:29.000 own yard, you know what I mean. And it was 379 00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:33.440 just it was just so surreal, Like it was like 380 00:24:34.519 --> 00:24:37.359 the following day, when I got home from work, I 381 00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:39.680 went over to my neighbor's fire pit, I took pictures 382 00:24:39.720 --> 00:24:42.000 of it. I took pictures of my fire pit. I 383 00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:44.039 took pictures of his fire pit to show you what 384 00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:46.720 I was dealing when I showed took pictures of the 385 00:24:46.839 --> 00:24:52.720 of the Mosburg Cystol Grip five hundred, and I went 386 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:55.359 over to just to look at the fire pit, and 387 00:24:56.720 --> 00:25:01.000 not thinking that the tree wouldn't be back up the 388 00:25:01.039 --> 00:25:04.440 way it was when it started today, you know. I 389 00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:07.319 thought it would be perfectly straight up and down like 390 00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:11.880 the other sapling that it ran up originally. But the 391 00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:15.720 tree never went back to its original position. It's higher 392 00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:19.519 now than it was when the creature was on it 393 00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:24.440 pulling it down, you know, but it's still in an 394 00:25:24.640 --> 00:25:27.359 arch position. And I took a picture of it just 395 00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:30.039 to show you what I was looking at, and like 396 00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:32.640 the thought never crossed my mind and it would still 397 00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:35.240 be that way, you know, because it's sapling. I just 398 00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:38.680 figured it would bounce right back up, spring right back up. 399 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:41.960 But I don't know, I guess the torque of the 400 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:45.839 weight of this creature pulling it, pulling down on it, 401 00:25:46.480 --> 00:25:50.599