Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome back to Challenge the podcast. All about
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she's got going on.
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sitting at work with no video. We need to see
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Speaker 2: You look like a serial killer dude.
Speaker 1: You look like.
Speaker 2: This is just getting scary. It's like Blair Witch.
Speaker 1: Elijah Wood in Sin City where the serial killer guy
the lenses and his glasses reflect everything.
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Speaker 3: On and off and on and off, and I'll.
Speaker 2: Leave it on. I'll leave it on until it until
it starts stuttering, Okay, because I know everybody's gonna be like,
I want to see Tim's handsom face the whole podcast.
You gotta give them what they want, right.
Speaker 4: Sure, yep, Yeah, we're still in the search for Tim's
next girl. So you like what you see? Email the
new email address.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you used.
Speaker 1: To have a couple of female fans. They stopped.
Speaker 2: Uh Yeah, Whatever happened to Emily, I don't know. I
probably I probably forgot to reply to one of her texts.
If I had to guess, that's probably what happened. I've
had a few admyers.
Speaker 1: Tim doesn't forget to reply to tex sassages.
Speaker 3: No, never, that's not a thing that he does.
Speaker 1: No stuff a week later that I have to be like, dude,
what the fuck.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you. I know nobody agrees, but it is
a very charming thing. I do someday you're all gonna
some day, you're all going to see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at Carlin about it this week?
Speaker 3: You know, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Zach is the only one who is who's free of
this at the moment. His time is coming.
Speaker 3: Hey, he didn't respond to the to the email thing either.
You had yell at him too.
Speaker 4: There's a couple of times when you guys are just
blowing up my phone that I just like put it
on mute, and I'm like, I'll read it later.
Speaker 2: I do that too, and then I don't.
Speaker 1: Maybe we should all stop doing that. Hey, everybody. Episode
two is here.
Speaker 4: Who it is?
Speaker 1: The Era's Invitational Part two? Nothing but elimination.
Speaker 3: I fucking loved it.
Speaker 2: I think in theory, I really enjoyed sort of the
concept of this. It's I really do in theory.
Speaker 4: Going into the episode, I thought I would love it.
About halfway through, I was like, all right, I kind
of missed the drama and the like bar scenes, and like,
I like eliminations, but give me a little something else
in between.
Speaker 1: All the shit.
Speaker 3: Well, they did give you things in between, it just
wasn't in the typical fashion. So like, well, if we
said we are in season forty, Episode two, invitational parts.
We start out this week with TJ doing the last
week on, and you know, he tells us that the
losers are going to be coming in for iconic eliminations.
It gives us the quick which I found very strange.
He named all four eliminations before the show even actually
got going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Ryan brings up a part that it's a
very jarring start to the episode. I had to go
back and watch the end of last episode to make
sure I didn't miss anything, because we do. We left
on everybody sitting around the table trying to figure out
who was going to go in.
Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm not the only one who had this issue,
so we u The official start of the episode after
you know the last week on is everybody walking into
the arena, which I thought was a neat way to
it was. They had fun music playing with it, and
all of the elimination things were set up and they
all walk in and as they're walking in, we get
a confession from Tory where she mentions that Amanda is
going to be going against Naya and that she's super
excited about that. And I had to kind of do
a double take, like did I did I completely miss
the nominations last week.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I had the exact same reaction, and I think
the chat room did too. I.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I started the show at about eight thirty, like like
a half hour after it started, and I restarted it
three times, thinking why is it? Why does it keep
starting in the middle of the episode. I like kept
restarting it and that I would see where the line was.
It's like, no, this can't be right. It was. It
was a super fucked up way to start this episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was very strange. I wasn't a fan of
that part.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was a fan of a lot of the
editing choice this episode, mainly just the flashback to show
us everything.
Speaker 2: Yes, what was the Why did they do this in
a flashback? There's no that added nothing.
Speaker 1: Ryan points out in hindsight, I see why they didn't
want eight eliminations back to back. They wanted to break
it up, so they gave us the decision making in between.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I purely because of what what Ryan has said
in the chat room.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: I didn't have a whole lot of an issue with
how they edited the episode, but my issue was with
the initial choice of saying of letting Tori say that
Amanda is going against Nya before any of us even
finally find that out. It was that was a very
like record scratch, what just happened type of thing.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I think all of us had the same
reaction of just like, wait, who's going in now? And
why didn't I know that before? Just this very second. Yeah,
it's very weird.
Speaker 3: We got about halfway, we got well not even half it.
We got a little bit farther into this episode, and
I was just sitting there like, did I did we
talk about this last week? And I have just completely
blocked it out. Are the guys gonna look at me
like I am completely insane? Because I didn't watch it twice.
I just watched it the once this morning when I
was taking notes, and we're just like I feel I
feel like I'm missing something. So TJ call down all
the losers so they'll, you know, stand in the arena.
TJ calls down the losers by er and it's Mark
and Katie, Ryan and Kelly, Anne, Naya and Leroy and
THEO and Nourice, and then we go through the whole
Each era gets to call out who they have nominated
to come down and This is about the time when
I was like, I don't I don't remember them talking
about this. So for Era one, it's Anissa and Derek.
That one goes relatively smoothly. We just see them come down.
Era too, of course, is Brandon and Kara Maria, which
we kind of knew about the Brandon bit. We also
kind of knew about the Kara Maria a bit, but
not officially, And we get a talking head from Laurel
saying some absolute bullshit about how she feels like Kara
is an anchor and she's tired of coaching her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was Laurel is such a fucking shitty human
being to talk about Kara the way she does. Kara
is a top.
Speaker 3: Laurel was gone for literally years, Like when are you
talking about coaching her?
Speaker 2: And I do think Laura's I do think she's a
better player than car Maria, but car Maria's top five
women of all time. Cara is not an anchor. She's
not weighing anybody down.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know that. I do necessarily think
that Laurel is a better player. I think she is
a different kind of player, but like, neither of them
are very good at the at the politic game. Yeah,
they like Laurel has the puzzles a little bit more
than Cara does. But I just I think they're both
pretty evenly matched players. And I think Laurel is just
fucking butt hurt that Kara Maria is no longer this
little girl who she has to like drag along like
she was, you know, back in the fresh Meat days. Yeah,
Cara can hold her own better than almost any other
woman out there, and I think Laurel's just pissed. Do
they that's that Kara has this legacy and she doesn't.
Speaker 1: According to the Internet, which never lies, No, never, both
Laurel and Cara have both won two finals. So why
does Laurel feel like she's.
Speaker 3: Because Laurel's a fucking asshole? Well she is. Laurel's an
absolute dickhead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well Laurel is an asshole. And and by the way,
I really like Kara. She's one of my favorite players.
So I'm not meaning to say this in like a
mean way, but I truly think that Laura would beat
Kara at most challenge events. Uh politics and stuff, I
don't know about that, but like most eliminations, most like finals,
mini finals I really think Laurel's got it. Laurel's probably
gonna win. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe I maybe it's just that I have such blinders
on for how much of an asshole she is that
I just cannot see past them because I have tried.
There have been seasons where I have tried, like where
she has come in and she really has kicked a
lot of ass and it's been a lot of fun
to see. But then she just that mask falls and
you see the asshole come back out, and I cannot
deal with it. It just drives me up a fucking wall.
And her entitlement to be like, you know, she's the
best player out there.
Speaker 2: And I, yeah, I don't like how disrespectful she is
to Kara.
Speaker 3: That's not no, I don't either.
Speaker 1: A joker has brought up welcome joker.
Speaker 3: Well back, dude.
Speaker 1: Their head to head eliminations don't matter.
Speaker 2: No. I think Laurel can beat her in most head
to head eliminations too. But people are gonna say, well,
she had a broken arm for one, and I don't
remember what the other one was.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean she only Laurel only barely one.
Laurel only barely beat her in this most recent final,
barely beat her in this most recent final, and she
had because she had a bunch of uh you know what,
was it special whatever they were, I don't remember. That
kept her from having to do all of the games.
And in this in last episode the challenge, they did
again barely beat her like they were. I think Kara
had like four of her eight lights in or ten
lights in, and Laurel got all ten of them in, like, yeah, barely.
Speaker 2: So I don't think that Laura was the first first
human that finished, right, and Carl was the second human
that finished, And yet Car is the anchor. Laurel is
such a bitch. She's such a bitch to talk about.
Speaker 3: I cannot deal with her.
Speaker 2: I talk about the second place player that, well, she.
Speaker 3: Makes my blood boil. She makes my blood absolutely boil.
Speaker 1: Joker says they were all squashes. I'm assuming he's meaning
the eliminations. Really he's seen Laurel.
Speaker 4: Whatever, mhm.
Speaker 3: So Era three we have Naya and Leroy going against
Amanda and Tony. Amanda's got some eye rolls that you
would have thought her eyes were getting stuck in the
back of her head. While Tory is saying her name.
And then this is when we get our first twenty
four hours earlier clip, and it's Amanda yelling at Corey
for being a bitch for voting her in, to which
they're like. She's telling Corey that they're they had to
talk about being each other's number ones, and he's like,
when the fuck did that happen? He goes when we
were talking about Nelson and us both being here for him,
Corey very rightfully, so it was like, yeah, we're both
here for them, but that's not a reason enough for
us to be like good with each other. They could
be each other's number number ones. I don't know where
you got that from.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it always strikes me as very pathetic when these
challenges come and you know, they're like, oh, but we said,
we said, we had a deal, we had this thing,
and it just makes you look really pathetic. It's never
going to change any mind, Like, just take the slump
of me and like if you can't come up with
a better thing and just you're gonna have just well
on top of that.
Speaker 3: Most I feel like, most of the time that they
have those kinds of conversations, it's it's because something it's
mentioned in passing, or like one person, you know, reads
the situation differently than the other person or than the
like six other people that we're sitting there. Yeah, it's
always these conversations never go the way that the person
who's mad at mad wants them to go. And then
finally Era four we have theo Nourics going against Olivia
and Polly. So then we have TJ breakdown what the
different games are. TJ tells us that the we have
the four eliminations and they are the biggest elimination game
from each era. So Era one is balls, in Era
two is Paul Wrestle. Era three is haul Brawl to
what she calls it the best elimination ever, and Era
four is take Shelter, which is basically not so Fast,
but they have to cover like hiding up or blocking
a door to the bunker and they have to get
the door open.
Speaker 2: The Shelter one was a weird edition, but I see
it's like it has to be Ara four and they
don't have They don't repeat games so much in Air four,
do you know what I mean? These eliminations, they don't
repeat them.
Speaker 3: And I feel like not so Fast came in in
Era three, so they had to switch it slightly and
we had J beat CT with takes shelter versus Not
So Fast.
Speaker 2: I think that's ultimately why they picked that. That's sort
of the only notable one, and that's I think that's
why J beat CT, and that's the only reason we
know about it.
Speaker 3: Yep. And then we have a talking a head from
Kara saying what all of us fans have been thinking
for years, give us the good eliminations, give us the
eliminations that we all love, and they finally did it.
Speaker 2: Well, it's one on one, it's simple, it's headbangers. I
like that.
Speaker 3: I love it even Not So Fast is one of
my favorite games because it's endurance and because it's strength,
and because it's it's a little bit of puzzle and
a little bit of mental I love that game.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So do you guys think that these are going to
be the four eliminations for the entire season or are
they only the eliminations for this game?
Speaker 4: I would hope the whole season. But my guess is just.
Speaker 2: This part o the same exact answer, Zach, I'd be
fine with with just these four all season. I'd be
totally fine with that.
Speaker 3: Like what they've done, and well, and what they did
in this episode where you had to pull the card
to find out what game you were playing, I'd be
totally fine with that, because yeah, these are God, these
are such good games to watch.
Speaker 1: It's so weird how all four of the eliminations showed up. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so then he tells us that well, so then
he tells the players that you guys are going to
be playing these games, and I found did you guys
find this weird? That when he tells the players that
these are the games that you're going to be playing,
all of them were just kind of like oh what,
no way, Like they didn't already know when they walked in,
and that's what was set up for them.
Speaker 2: They have to do. You know. I think they tell me,
you know, but it was still like act surprised.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I guess. So they says that the games
will we played in the order that they showed up
in the show, not in the order of the eras
that they have there the errors of the players. So
each Era pulls a card and Era three pulls balls in,
which means they're At first, Amanda's pissed about this because
Amanda is going against Naya and Era three, and Amanda
is the smallest girl going against the largest girl in
their team.
Speaker 2: I will say that might be the only reason I
have a problem with these four eliminations is that all
of them, except for the shelter one, are very heavily
favorite for the bigger human.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes they are.
Speaker 1: I have other issues, but we'll get to them as
we get to each one.
Speaker 3: All right. Uh, Amanda, Actually she plays offense first, and
she scores the first ball because Nia makes some serious
missteps and like she like two or three times, she
makes the missteps and Amanda is able to get around
her and get that ball in, and everybody in the
audience is floored. We didn't expect you to get anything.
Speaker 1: Has there always been a ring around the barrel?
Speaker 3: No, there has not always been a ring around the
that's bullshit.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I can't remember when they introduced it. It was like
USA one or something. They introduced that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ryan points out this annoyed me, and any other season,
the ball touching the ground would be dead. Yes, it
should have been up one zero with the ball yep.
And the little circle around the thing that if you
put the ball in the circle then you automatically get
to scores. Dumb.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was it. I found it that very strange.
The other thing I found a little weird was that
so Amanda scores the first time Nya has not gone yet,
or Nya goes but doesn't score, and then Amanda's up.
Maybe I don't know. It was the way that the
way that Amanda could go and do her second ball.
TJ tells her that if you make your second ball,
you win, but that means that Nya doesn't get a rebubtal.
So I found I found that a little straight. Like
the way that that all kind of played out was
I don't feel like that was how this game is done.
Like if if Amanda goes first and Nia go second,
and then Amanda goes third and Amanda gets two points,
she shouldn't automatically win. Nia should have a rebubbal. But
I don't know.
Speaker 4: Maybe it was just.
Speaker 3: Maybe they had other rounds that they just didn't show us.
I don't really know.
Speaker 1: I agree, I found some of these alternate rules annoying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but ultimately my confusion there was for not because
Nya ends up scoring the points that she she needs
and wins, and as she's walking off the sand, we
get confessionals from both Kylin and Josh feeling real hot
and bothered about Nya.
Speaker 2: So Ryan, Ryan can't believe that people would find Nya
attractive because of the sweat drinking and everything.
Speaker 3: Ryan, I think Naya is a beautiful woman. I did, too,
have heard her attitude and her personality from years past
stuck in my head, so I can't get past that.
Speaker 1: Could not if I if I was talking to her,
my brain would just be like, she has sweat breath
coming out.
Speaker 4: Wow, she was. She was so friendly when I met her,
and she she might be the person that, in my opinion,
has like the biggest gap of attraction from like on
television to in person of anyone I've met, Like even
even after me and her in person, Like in person,
I thought she was gorgeous. In this episode, I'm like, yeah,
she's fine, but she's not nearly but she was in person.
Speaker 2: Oh really, Yeah, she's beautiful, she's pretty.
Speaker 4: She's like, she's so much better in person.
Speaker 3: I just I just have memories of her being a dickhead.
Speaker 2: Yeah her Hurricane Nadays. Yeah, yeah, she was completely insufferable
in those early seasons.
Speaker 3: Still hot out for a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah, still super hot and now she's super hot and sufferable?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: Is that the opposite of insufferable? That still sounds like
a bad word. Sure, you know what I'm trying to say, right,
that was supposed to be a compliment.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So when we have the man up and it's Leroy
Voye versus Tony, and we get another flashback scene and
it's Leroy cutting Brandon's hair while talking to Tony. Yep,
Tim can tell us what this is like.
Speaker 1: Everything?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The only difference was that I he called Johnny Bana's
for me while while he cut my hair, So I
talked to Johnny Bana's voicemail. That's conversation.
Speaker 4: Hey, what was that before or after you met Banana's
in the airport?
Speaker 3: Before?
Speaker 2: I think it was before.
Speaker 4: Okay, I don't know why.
Speaker 3: I know that off the top of my head.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to. I have to like you some math.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just had to think, like it was Tim
on the the voicemail, be like, Hey, I met you
at a Wendy's in an airport.
Speaker 3: I right into you Wendy's.
Speaker 2: Do you remember that? Yeah? No, but it was when
I did when I did write it different Wendy's. I
had met him vaguely at that other event with you,
Zach and Wolfe, and I didn't imagine that. But I
should have mentioned. I should have said, like, you signed
a poster for me, but I didn't say that.
Speaker 3: He'd probably should thing go okay, brother.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We also get a confessional from Johnny Bananas talking about Leroy,
basically saying that Leroy is like his brother, his blood brother.
They've known each other for, you know, fifteen plus years
or something like that, for a really long time.
Speaker 1: Stupid Johnny looks with like a separated mustache and goate
it does look pretty good.
Speaker 3: I didn't even notice.
Speaker 4: I didn't notice because he always looks amazing.
Speaker 3: He does.
Speaker 2: And it's also it looks every time that people have facial
like that, it just looks like the devil. To me,
that's a devil. Facial hair, mus a mustache, and a
disconnected goatee is That's that's what Satan has.
Speaker 4: I would not be shocked if Bananas did it for
that specific reason.
Speaker 1: YEA, the smartest player ever.
Speaker 2: He just needs to toilet twist the end.
Speaker 4: I'm glad we agree on that.
Speaker 1: Welfe that was sarcasm. Zach learn learned to uh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and I mentioned this blood brother. But because
Tony and Leroy start going at it and in the ring,
and Tony says he feels some kind of way about
Bananas cheering for Leroy and not for him, who cares Tony?
I well, I found it a little weird because like
there were a few seasons there where he and Johnny
were rivals. They went into a season together as rivals,
and Johnny has never had an issue with Leroy. Leroy
and Johnny have always been thick as thieves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anybody that thinks, yeah, I think Leroy is bananas
number one guy, maybe in the whole maybe in the
whole show. Ever, so, yeah, for Tony, he's gonna like,
that's Tony's an idiot. That's he's never gonna win that battle.
Speaker 3: I mean, we know that Tony's an idiot, but especially
in this way, Tony's moron. Yeah, And surprisingly Tony wins
pretty handily.
Speaker 2: Surprise all of us, I think, because we all yeah,
because of what Still told us.
Speaker 3: All I was I was not expecting that at all.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking Leroy was either we got confessional from Leroy
being like oh, you know, Tony's just this like pushover guy, like, yep,
just gonna have fun, not really try.
Speaker 2: Yep. But Leroy said kind of what we've said about
Leroy in a moment of self reflection where he's like,
I'm not sure if I've ever really given it one
hundred percent. I don't know if I've ever come out
here and really tried my hardest. And here he kind
of didn't do that again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Leroy does mention this is the first time
that he has ever been the first one to go home. Yep,
first time being going home first.
Speaker 2: On their fantasy League's probably probably me.
Speaker 3: I think one of you two.
Speaker 1: I lost a good four people in this In this episode.
Speaker 4: He did lose four people.
Speaker 2: Shit, I didn't even look to see what I lost.
It's gonna be a repeat of last season.
Speaker 3: Oh I had Nurice, Yeah, Tim, I think you have Leroy.
You had Amanda, Leroy and Kelly Anne ship spoilers sorry.
And then Wolfie lost Holly Brandon, Katie and Mark Wow. Yeah,
and so we also the only person who's really excited
about this is Devon. Devn's happy that Leroy went home
because he is not thrilled with how Leroy has played
the game since he and Cam got together, because of
how they and their last season against other people.
Speaker 2: You know, I.
Speaker 3: Well, I mentioned that upset because that's kind of how
this game gets played. Beef from previous seasons always carries over. Yeah, sorry, ahead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's sorry if I think we talked about it
a little bit last season that it seems like ever
since uh, him and Cam got together, Leroy like the
perception of him in the house has changed to being
more of the villain.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's what I was gonna say. It
was weird last week that Devin called out Leroy for
playing sort of a shitty game, because it was you know,
I think all of us said, like, Leroy seems like
this upstanding, like what's his what's his complaint? But once
he let like looped in the Cam thing, it's like,
oh I get it. Yeah, he's plays differently with Cam around.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I call it. I don't know
if I call it shitty or underhanded, but it's it's
a different game.
Speaker 3: It is, all right. So next set of games, Era
one has pulled pull wrestles. They're up. They're up for
the second set of games the first men are up first,
and it's the Pitbull versus the Godfather, Derek versus Mark
in Paul Russell, Derek's game. But this was fun to watch.
I enjoyed this.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed Derek's strategy, though at these is just like
hang on, just just hang on and wait for the
other guy to get tired. I'll watch it, you know,
I'll watch it all day, but at some point it's like,
I don't know if I'm impressed.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I I fully was watching this expecting
Mark to win, and like I don't know why, because
Derek always wins. But I'm always like, all right, this
is gonna be the time he finally loses, but he
never does.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I was rooting for Derek on this
one just because it's his game, and it's I enjoy
watching him play a game that we saw him play.
Speaker 2: Years and years and years.
Speaker 3: Ago when he was you know, the scrappy little little
kid back in yeah, early two thousands.
Speaker 4: I think any of the any of these games are
acquire like wrestling in the dirt. I think Derek might
be my favorite person to watch do any of these type.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and I do say, out of all of
the matchups of like friends going against friends or being
pitted against friends, I think this is the one matchup
that it doesn't matter the game, Like, they're gonna come
they're going to go into it as friends, and they're
gonna come out of as friends, and they're gonna look
at this as you know, it's just a game. This
is we're all here for this sort of thing, No
hard feelings one way or the other. Somebody's got to
do it.
Speaker 2: That's not Anissa feels though, No so winning. The men
feel that way though, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Derekin's a winning and then we've got the women, and
Anissa is that she's down there so we get you know,
flashback to her and Rachel and she's just letting Rachel
have it like I can't believe that you have given
your vote to CT because he's going to vote me
in every single time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think you guys will be on my
side with this. Anissa's whole point is personal, right. There's
nothing in here about like I've earned my place here,
I've fought for this, I've worked. It's all like what
the fuck I hooked up with Rachel? We dated and
stuff and she owes me this, and we've been friends
for a long time. It's like, I'm not impressed, Anissa,
like this is this is a game you're supposed to
be like training and like trying to do this.
Speaker 3: Anisa does kind of try to like spin it a
little bit, like she deserves to not be down there.
She has this whole thing about how, you know, she
like you were saying about Lero just a minute ago,
how he's always kind of just you know, phoned it
in a bit and hasn't given it his full all,
all that sort of thing, and she mentions that up
until this point, until she hit forty two, she's always
just kind of like she's just done the game to
do the game, but has really put her full effort
in it, and says something to the effect of like, yeah,
you know, I there's so many times where I just
didn't put the full of a full effort into it
and I could have won. I could have made it
all the way, I could have been a finalist, I
could have been a champion, and I just haven't. And
I'm finally at that point where I want to do it.
I'm I don't I feel like the chance for you
to win. That was what was it like three or four,
two or three seasons ago when she almost almost won
and then rolled her ankle and out.
Speaker 2: She went, yeah, well, but she could be working out
in the off season. Two. You know, there's these meds,
and he said, get on these meds, lose some weight, train,
like try, you know, show up and like make it
seem like you care, and you try.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't want to body shame her in anyway,
but in comparison to the other players in this game,
she just does not look physically ready to play these games.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a body I don't. I think
it's a you're not you physically can't do it, you
know what I mean. It's not a body shaming. It's
her body can look however, but you're you're not capable
of playing this game with the body that you have.
It's athletic games. You have to be able to do that.
Speaker 3: It is an athletic game. Like she's always had trouble
with running, and I really don't think that she's gonna
be able to run the miles upon miles that they
have to do in this game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she used your body to win this elimination though she.
Speaker 3: Did, she definitely did, but she was also playing this
elimination against Katie, who was literally half her size.
Speaker 4: And still put up a pret decent sight.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So in Paul Russell, Anissa and Katie start
and everybody on the sidelines is talking about how Laurel
mentions like I would bet money the this is going
to be an immediate She's just gonna pull it out
of her hands and we'll be done. And Katie holds on.
Katie holds on for a while, and to the point
where I almost thought that she was going to get
it away from Anissa. I did too, Yeah, because she
she did like a full wrest, like actual wrestling move
and put her her legs up around the Nissa's Next.
Speaker 1: She did leg scissor zacha backman.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I saw that and was like, I don't
think that's legal in this game. I don't think that's
legal because I'm pretty sure that you could choke someone
out doing that and they don't like those kinds of moves.
Speaker 4: Yeah, choke her out, make her make her go unconscious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but did you notice that she that the next frame,
Katie had moved her legs out of that way. I
mean she tried to do it again, but yeah, that Katie.
Katie almost had it and then Anissa got it away
from her, and then the second round, Anissa got it
almost immediately.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I was really proud of Katie. I thought
the same thing Laurel did, of like, Katie's not gonna try.
Katie doesn't give a ship. But she didn't need Katie
didn't need to win. She needed to do what she did,
which was try her hardest, show us that she showed
up and she did her best. That was her redemption.
I'm fine with I'm fine with Katie's showing here.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I was okay with it too. So
then it kind of acts like we're gonna go straight
into Era two, but it just gives us some scenes
from last night, and it's just the backstory of what's
going on between Kara and Polly and Laurel and Johnny
bananas Y. Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 1: It's it's the same story every fucking season.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we speak of Polly in here, but I don't
care anymore with the additional Polly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, car is telling Polly that Laurel told her that
she's going to go in and then Johnny. Polly gets
mad and calls out Johnny for calling out Kara, and
then we get a confessional from Nehemiah saying like this
could really backfire on us, like Cara is a good player,
this could really backfire on our team. Yeah, and then
we get a quick little scene of oh, I have
a I have a leeping growley dog next to me. Sorry,
we have growling dog noises.
Speaker 1: I do want to point out I like that Polly
was given Johnny a bunch of shit and Johnny does
his usual like, but Pollie, let me explain. Polly's just
like I'll fuck off with your explanation and just walked away.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I also appreciated the car. It was just like, yeah,
throw Akara in, that'll just what a what an epiphany,
what a surprise, that's gonna do something new.
Speaker 4: But I do think Banana's made a very good point.
We didn't, No, we didn't.
Speaker 3: But she didn't come and talk to him ahead of time.
Speaker 4: Yes, Like how authentic is out there? Like once they
have power and they control her fate. Now she's like, hey,
let's be friends, Like that's something you should do before
Bonanza's car before long.
Speaker 3: No, he was trying to say that she needs to
come and talk to him after the challenge and before
they sit down in that room, not before the challenge
even starts. He was talking about that time in between.
They had power, that whole time they just weren't sitting
in that room. He won her to come and talk
to him while they weren't sitting in that room.
Speaker 4: I heard differently, and I'll go back on. I'm pretty
sure he said, like, you know, she didn't come to
me until after we were at the day. I'm like,
we had power.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when they were at the table in between when
she could have when she didn't win the challenge, and
when they sat down to the table where she could
be thrown in. He was talking about that time in between,
and it's just bullshit.
Speaker 1: It's Caroline points out. He wanted her to grovel to
him on camera. That's all he wanted. Yes, he did
on one like, oh Johnny, you're so great, please don't
throw me in.
Speaker 3: Yep, he won hundred percent one of that.
Speaker 4: I don't think so. I don't think it's camera she
she has his number. If she and Polly had called
up bananas before they even left a film, because let's
face it. They know they're gonna be on and be like, hey,
we got your back, Hunders and you are number one.
Speaker 3: Do you think you hold him up in the off
season to make some kind of deal with him?
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: But I also think him and Laurel don't have bad
blood and they're actually good friends.
Speaker 3: I think that their friendship is bullshit.
Speaker 1: Caro Kara was on his podcast. She thought they were friends.
Speaker 3: They've actually Kara and he have played the last few
seasons together really well, like every season that she's been
on since Polly left. Like they they had multiple seasons
where they were good, and now that Laurel's back, they're
no longer good. Zach, I think your argument is bullshit.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's usual Johnny stuff that, yeah,
it holds on to ship and he's like, no, we're good,
we're friends, we're good, And when he wants there to
be bad blood, suddenly it's like, well, she did all
this stuff to me like ten years ago.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's why that's what I means love all's
fair and love war and challenges lying is absolute bullshit
because the moment that she gets done to him ease lived,
but he can do it everybody else is such a Yes, he's.
Speaker 1: The biggest goddamn baby on.
Speaker 3: This show and he always has been.
Speaker 4: Yes, you know who is Someone in the chat mentioned
that Car was on this podcast, but also there are
several people that came on the podcasts afterwards saying when
Cam and Leroy had their baby that the Poully and
Car would not go there. Walbin Nance was there. They
went there week early and they were like, you know,
don't don't let Johnny knowwhere here because Johnny will be
mad that, Like we were hanging out with you, and
Johnny's like, I don't care. Leroy is a big boy,
he can hang out with whoever he wants.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know that has to do with anything, honestly,
don't care anymore. Johnny is a fucking idiot. I hope
he retires comes back.
Speaker 3: Well. So next, getting back to the show, we get it.
We get another scene still in this flashback thing of
Laurel telling Johnny Bananas and Kelly Anne that she kind
of feels bad about throwing Cara in.
Speaker 2: You should a shitty fucking moved fucking bullshit.
Speaker 3: It's such bullshit. No, she doesn't feel bad. She does
not feel bad. At all. She is talking out of
her ass.
Speaker 4: You don't think she feels I think she does.
Speaker 3: I think she's playing for camp. I think I know
she does not feel bad. She also mentions about how
there's a lot of love between her and Kara. No,
there fucking isn't. There is no love between you guys anymore.
You have stabbed her in the face and in the
back way too many fucking times for there to be
any kind of love between you two. I think Carson
was a perfect example of that.
Speaker 2: I do think car still loves loves I.
Speaker 3: Agree, Yeah, Carra will always love Laurel because Carra will
always try to. She has, like we talked about this
last season, it's abandonment thing that she she wants that friendship.
And then Laurel dangles the carrot in front of her,
and like last season, dangles the carrot of her her
shitty relationship with Nicole, coming and crying to Cara over
and over and over again. But then the moment that
Kara says something that's negative against the relationship that she's
in or that Laurel doesn't like, then Laurel flips the
fuck out, and all of the quote unquote love that
Laurel has for her, goes down the drain again. Laurel
is completely it's complete bullshit when she says this this stuff.
Speaker 1: Laurel feels bad. Laurel feels bad just like she felt
like she was over Nicole, which means not at all.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 2: Caroline says, Laurel loves Cara but can't ever admit it.
I do think that I think that Laurel has some fondness.
I don't know if it's like a sisterly love or
like a deeper love than that, but I.
Speaker 3: Do think that is not sisterly love.
Speaker 2: Laurel's got some fondness in there for Kara, but she
doesn't express it well.
Speaker 1: Joker says, oh my god, you guys are verbally fitting
Car for wings. I would disagree. I just hate Laurel
that much.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Agree, Car's got her own problems. I'll give you twenty
other things I fucking hate about.
Speaker 3: Cara definitely has her own problems. I just I cannot
fucking stand Laurel.
Speaker 2: The difference is you want to The difference is you
root for Kara right or at least I do, Like
I want Car to do better and succeed in Laurel.
I don't root for her.
Speaker 3: I have tried to root for Laurel, but she just
heard her asshole nature just comes out every single time
and ruins it.
Speaker 1: Ryan's got to take m he says. The only thing
I could see is Laurel was in love with Cara
while in the closet, and the way things worked out
turned into resentments. It's possible I.
Speaker 3: Could see that.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I'd buy that, because we all
know that Kara is not against messing around with women.
So and we already said Carl, we said Kara has
love for you. Don't think if if Laurel tried to
put the moves on Car, Carl would be down for it,
if she got it on the right day.
Speaker 2: I think I would be for.
Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't mean that Car is actually attracted
to Laurel.
Speaker 2: Okay, but we never would not be attracted to Laurel.
Speaker 1: You never said anything about Cara and not having love
for Laurel. I believe we said that over and over again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm just saying, if the whole the whole
thing is like oh, like you know, sexual like desires,
I think Laurel could get the sexual response she wants from.
Speaker 1: Car But okay, Ryan's point was she was still in
the closet. Yeah, she was comfortable with the feelings she
was having for Kara, which then she turns into negative
feelings to cope with.
Speaker 3: Yep, I could see that being a reason. All right,
So we are onto the third game, which is Haul Brawl,
and ERA four pulls it. So everybody's super excited about
Hall Brawl. This was I enjoyed this.
Speaker 1: It's not as neutered as it has been the past,
but having them start at the walls is I think.
Speaker 2: Also, the size differential on these competitors was just they
didn't need to play the game right. We knew what
this was going to be. We knew how this was
gonna end.
Speaker 3: I mean, Theo's got height on Polly, but Polly's really
beefed up in the last five years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Theo's like nine inches taller. I mean it's
not Yeah, it's like nine inches and like ninety pounds.
Its well.
Speaker 3: I will say, if if Polly had played this differently,
he could have potentially gone for Theo's legs, like feet
and legs and taken him out at like you know,
lower half taken them out of the knees type of thing.
Speaker 2: But why are we arguing about what could have been?
And that's not how it was, Like it was. It
worked out exactly the way we thought, right, I mean
it just if we had, if we had to guess,
we would have guessed this exactly.
Speaker 4: Being shorter. It's a dirty play. But all I need
to do is go for the legs with his hands,
go for the nuts with his helmet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or.
Speaker 2: CJ trying to jump over the guy, like fucking you
gotta try something else, Polly, because you can't just beat him,
like you can't just push THEO through this thing. You
gotta do something else.
Speaker 3: I will say, like I I expected THEO to win.
I did not expect THEO to hit Polly as hard
as he did that first time. I did. I did
not see that coming.
Speaker 2: I absolutely saw that coming.
Speaker 3: Laid that that boy.
Speaker 2: Out THEO is there to prove a point. Man. He
was ready to go.
Speaker 1: We all knew THEO was going to win this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, there might be a better
hidden haul than that, but I can't recall it right now,
like that might be the best hit ever.
Speaker 2: Big easy, but throwing West's head into the bell, that was.
Speaker 4: I forgot about that one.
Speaker 1: No, one of the things I didn't like about this.
We all knew Pauli was going to lose, so that
doesn't matter. But there's a point. I think it's on
the second run through where Paulie is holding on to
Fo's leg trying to keep it from get to the bell,
and then TJ starts yelling at him like, no, paul
you gotta get up, You got to go to your bell.
You got to go to your bell. Now I'm gonna
jump ahead because then later when Lurice tries that strategy,
like nobody says anything, and it almost could possibly turn
the game around. Yeah, So what are these weird rules
that we sometimes enforced and sometimes don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a fair game, man, It's yeah.
Speaker 3: It's yeah. I did find that a little strange.
Speaker 4: I wonder if it's the case, you know, with just editing,
where if like Olivia and the Reice were doing that
for like five minutes, whereas maybe Paulie and THEO were
there for like half an hour and TJ is just
going dive and like, hey, get it moving. Guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll never know.
Speaker 4: They should have just cut his comment out then, Yeah,
they should have.
Speaker 1: Ryan really wants us to talk about these helmets.
Speaker 4: I didn't even notice the helmet the font on the helmets.
But what do we do?
Speaker 1: He said? They took a step backwards in safety though, right.
What happened to the football helmets with the face mask?
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't see they didn't, so they're not the
full face mask anymore. They're just like that.
Speaker 3: It's just.
Speaker 1: Wasn't paid attention. Maybe it's because the face mask kept
breaking off and they were just worried about that being
getting in people's eyes and shit.
Speaker 4: Maybe I was just happy that there was no pillows, or.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was with theo's uh depth perception problem. They
didn't put the face masks onto it.
Speaker 3: So I didn't do it for the girls either. Boys
and girls said no face masks.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I loved it though. I love seeing probably get
the shit kicked out of that guy. He deserves it.
Uh Yeah. And THEO, by the way, who have always
been sort of neutral on I'm on like. I like
him now I'm on board. I just needed to see
him beat the shit out of Polly. I'm ready to go.
Speaker 1: I don't really care about Poli Worth you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't really care about either either.
Speaker 2: I hate Polly. I hate Polly so much, especially this
this season. By the way, I know, he's only on
two episodes, thank god, but he is the least authentic
reality star in the history of reality television, right, Like
it's very it's probably untrue, but he's a tryhard. He's
a try hard, inauthentic guy, very hyperbolic, fair enough, yes
it was, but he's a try hard. He's a try
hard guy. I don't like it.
Speaker 4: He's definitely not one of my favorites. But ever since
he like came on was a USA two or whatever
season he is on, and he came out of the closet,
I've liked him a lot more.
Speaker 2: Why why did that matter to you at all?
Speaker 4: I just feel like, just being his authentic self, I
feel like he's not as irritating.
Speaker 3: I agree with you there, Zach.
Speaker 1: He has less aggression.
Speaker 4: That could be it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was so aggressive these two episodes, though.
Speaker 1: Not compared to his original ones where he's like nose
to nose with Kyle and I'm like, uh, come on, man,
and all that bullshit that they used to do.
Speaker 4: Not not kissing other guys in mid argument.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel like the ship that he did
the table to him was like was it was a
similar sort of feeling of it, you know, like he
talked in like his low batman voice, like if you're
gonna call me out, like come call me out. It's
like he practiced it and wrote it down and ship.
It was so stupid.
Speaker 4: I think I loved it. Last week we did that
because I felt like I felt like it'd be very
easy just to like check how we're out of him,
be like hey, like you know, I don't want to
go in, but he's like, hey, you want me, sure,
I'll go in? Like may the best man win?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't buy it.
Speaker 3: That's fine, all right. Out of the women, so we get, uh,
the women's things starts off with a quick like Nourice
is talking about her game and she's already crying and
it was a cool. So this was very obviously filmed
after she'd lost.
Speaker 2: I have to try really hard to not notice it
like that, because yeah, there's.
Speaker 3: It was so obvious that like she she was, she
had obviously been bawling and had full tears in her eyes, like,
you're not crying because you're you're nervous and scared. You're
crying because you just lost like that.
Speaker 4: I didn't even pick up on that really, Now I
saw it instant either, but.
Speaker 1: I was probably looking on my phone something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, I can always Usually by the last episode,
I can tell who wins because they're always dressed the
nicest in their confessionals. Oh interesting, there you go, last episode.
Something to look for.
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, so we get, you know, another flashback,
and this is Michelle sitting down with Horacio at the
table and she's trying to convinced Hirasio to send Jenny
in against his girlfriend, which just made me think that
Michelle is a fucking moron.
Speaker 2: She is.
Speaker 3: She's making dumber and dumber and dumber moves every season.
We all had serious hopes for her for a while there,
and now I.
Speaker 1: Just she's stupid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is not her game. She did really
well on Survivor. She's a really good Survivor player. I
don't know why, but she's not finding her footing in
this game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this game is not hers. No, every season she
has just made stupider and stupider moves.
Speaker 2: Yep, she's missing something. I don't know what it is,
but she's missing some component of this game.
Speaker 4: And I personally don't even think she was that great
at Survivor.
Speaker 3: I don't watch the Vivor, so I wouldn't know.
Speaker 2: You know, she won, so she must not be that
three on the second She's played twice and she won
and made Final three, she's like pretty good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I feel her first season Audrey definitely like
was the more deserving but just had a hateful Jerry.
And I feel like in season forty she was so
irrelevant that she just got dragged the entire season because like,
she has no power in this game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was the goat. She was the goat forty,
but she but she made it to the end, you know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes Yeah, uh, do you guys, do any joker wants
to know? Do any of you guys respect rings at all?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: Rings? Just like the amount of times you've won?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, that way that weighs into the calculation as
to how good a players. It's not everything, but it's
it's it's part of the calculation.
Speaker 4: No, No, I think it's pretty much everything. I mean,
we're we're we're kind of giving uh A Nissa and
uh Leroy a hard time earlier. Like, yes, the point
is when you come on the show is to win,
and so like that's that's the point is like how
many times can you do that?
Speaker 1: Okay, I wasn't. I wasn't giving them a hard time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it. I don't think it's all
that matter. Like, I don't think that because Banana is
one of the most he's the best, but I think
it's gotta be part of the It's be part of that.
Speaker 3: It can be terrible, but he can also be good
at the game, which I mean, I will always hand
it to him. I cannot stand him most of the time,
but Johnny Bananas is weirdly good at these games. He
has something that just it works for the challenge. So yeah,
I agree with you, Tim. I don't think winning is everything.
I don't think that the rings are everything, but they
definitely are a big factor in that calculation. Ye yeah,
so uh oh, we also can There's a scene of
Nourice and Horassio talking to each other and kissing all
over each other.
Speaker 2: These are the grossest motherfuckers in the world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very reminiscent because It cracked me up that
Tory was the one who did this little confessional.
Speaker 2: The Challenge Baby. She was the Challenge, Yeah, she.
Speaker 3: It was very reminiscent of her and her Derek her
first season talking about how they'd have a Challenge baby
if they won these Harassio and Nuris are talking about
having babies and she wants to be a wife, but like, h.
Speaker 2: You talk me down from eight kids to five? Oh
fuck off, Hirassio.
Speaker 3: Tori does her little her little confessional like this is
a classic Challenge relationship, which I think just kind of
has the undertone of this is not going to last
outside of this show for very long.
Speaker 2: Yeah, still going strong there, believe it is.
Speaker 3: But she and Jordan went strong for a while.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're showering there. I feel I feel like I
can see it impossibly lasting. I'm also guessing I'm probably
the only person that went into this elimination rooting for Olivia.
Speaker 2: Yeah you are, Yeah, yeah for sure.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so it's it's Olivia versus Nouris, and Olivia
just fucking man handles Nourise in both rounds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like Olivia has shown that she's a
terrible person outside of this show.
Speaker 2: I think I think Olivia's awful.
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably, but she's from Alaska, so you know, I'm
blind little.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's okay, You're allowed.
Speaker 2: To be ye. And Nurse is great, and she fought
her heart out and she did as good as you
could have expected somebody her size to do in the
game like this. It's just not her game. There was
just no way she was going to do this.
Speaker 3: Yes, there was not, all right. So, and then we've
got our final game, which is take Shelter and Era two,
and so you are given they are given twenty minutes
to barricade their bunker and then they switch with their
with their corresponding partner corresponding opponent and have to get
the bunker open and hit the buzzer. Everybody is competing
at the same time, which I kind of liked. Yeah,
it was fun to be able to see all four
of them build this up and take it down at
the same time.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: There's not a whole lot to say about them building
it all up.
Speaker 2: It's less of a it's it is a very similar
game and not so fast, but less fun to watch it,
you know, not so faster there doing flips and ship
and climbing and you know, going through webs.
Speaker 3: And got the full jungle gym to go up and
around and this this a door. Yeah, I mean I
still enjoy it when I see Cet do it because
see T's tying knots in ropes. You'll never get undone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I felt bad for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, unless surprisingly, unless you're Jay, I don't. I still.
Speaker 2: I felt bad for Brandon on this one because I
do think Brandon could have beat Brian and literally all
three of these other games, and this game again was
just not his game. He just as he talked about
his strategy, he's he's like, I don't, I don't know.
He seemed a little lost on how to do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was the game that I was I was
actually servis for both him, for him and Kara, And
because of all four games, I think both of them
had a you know, ninety percent chance of winning in
the other three, and this one was much more evenly matched.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a tough one for poor Brandon, who
seems to never catch a break on these fucking shows
right now.
Speaker 3: Poor guy. Yeah, I mean, there's not a whole lot
to say. CT's rooting for Kara and trying to give
her pointers. Laurel and Johnny Bananas are doing it for
Kelly Ann. When they start untangling, Ryan goes like full
beast mode. He does, grabbing these cinderblocks and tossing them
out of the way, grabbing it. Brandon had like a
whole tree shoved up in there, and he grabbed that
and pulled it out.
Speaker 2: Where did this come from? We've never seen Ryan act
like this? Oh where did where? Where did he get this?
Why did he Why was he so motivated here?
Speaker 3: I don't know. It was fun to watch, though.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 2: It was interesting. Yeah, I didn't expect it from Brillan.
I was reading for Brandon for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So Ryan Ryan starts doing that, but then all
the attention gets focused on Kara and Kelly Anne because
they are neck and neck undoing their stuff and it's
real intense. Everybody in the audience is like on pins
and needles with it. And Cara only I mean, I
think Kelly Ann given another five seconds.
Speaker 1: I noticed when Carl and Kelly Anne like hug and
then they're like talking, and she's like a couple more seconds.
Like Kelly Anne was perfectly dry. I mean, she had
some sweat on her brow and stuff. For some reason,
her crotch was soaking wet.
Speaker 3: No, I did not notice that.
Speaker 4: I was not paying at.
Speaker 1: The rest of her pants perfectly dry, just that b
section soaking wet.
Speaker 4: Well, now I know that I'm gonna be looking at
it was weird.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what happened?
Speaker 3: Maybe she just really had to.
Speaker 1: That's possible, But wasn't it Kelly?
Speaker 2: Didn't she pee on herself? Another elimination?
Speaker 3: No, that was cook? Cook? Was cook and Cara were
hanging and cook I.
Speaker 2: Know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3: Above water?
Speaker 2: I think. Didn't she piss herself in a bathful of
ice water?
Speaker 3: Oh? Y, yes, she did, I swear to God.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a fucked up thing. I'm like, I'm sure
I've seen Kelly and pissed herself before. Let me let
me think back on this. God, what am I doing
watching this show? I can recall these facts. What am I?
What am I doing? That's my life here?
Speaker 4: Well, did you guys think of all Kelly An's confessionals
about her psychics?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: If this, if we got another psychic to stop believing
in that bullshit, I'm good, I'm good. I support this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, apparently Kelly and Psychic told her that she would
be there for five weeks. Well, it sounds like Kelly
An is going to fire her psychic when she gets home.
Speaker 2: I hope she also has Psychic for her dog.
Speaker 4: Dog.
Speaker 3: I mentioned last week when we were talking about Kelly
Anne and Tim, you said something about her sounding really sad,
and I said something, well, maybe it kind of seems
like the boy is no longer in the picture. But
then she says that she's about to get married. So
I'm just completely wrong there.
Speaker 2: And her baby babies, it's great babies. She's not going
to give a ship about those animals after she has
a baby. She's going to bandon those animals immediately.
Speaker 1: Babies.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so Ryan and Brandon are still going at
it when the ladies finish. Ryan is the second person
in the second episode to mention something about the Vietnam War. Yeah,
why do they keep mentioning the Vietnam War because in Vietnam. Yeah,
I realized they're in Vietnam. But it's not a good thing.
The US history books like.
Speaker 2: The dad's a good thing because they're veterans. I think
that's why.
Speaker 3: Are your dad fought fought in the war. But you're
playing a game so that somehow equates.
Speaker 1: Aren't they in Vietnam? Aren't they shooting?
Speaker 3: They are understood. It doesn't understand why, No, I do.
But it just like these things are not the same.
Just because you're in the same place doesn't mean that
these things are not the same.
Speaker 2: I think it. Do you have military in your family, Krin, Yeah,
would you like would you like go to a country
where that where your family served and like feel some
appreciation of that or no, just not part of you.
Speaker 3: The military in my family is on my dad's side
and it's his entire family is from Germany.
Speaker 2: Oh, and you're on the wrong side. You're a Nazi.
You were a Nazi. I see, Okay, Well, no wonder
you hate military things.
Speaker 3: As soon as the war finished, there were none of them.
None of them were actually Nazis, but just different connotations.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I buy that.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm sending uh.
Speaker 3: I can't say ship like that on podcasts.
Speaker 2: I say, whatever, Woolfy was your dad? Your dad was
your dad a veteran wolf.
Speaker 1: He was in the army.
Speaker 2: But I mean you didn't fight in Nam.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And like my uncle was was in the army
in the US Army, and I've got plenty of cousins
and whatnot, but nobody. Yeah, I don't know, it just it.
I just found it weird that this is the second
episode in a row that this has been Like, I
want to know how many more times is going to
be mentioned, because.
Speaker 2: It's it's all the it's not.
Speaker 3: The great part of US history.
Speaker 2: No, it's all the first and second era people. There's yeah,
there's a crash, let me see cars, but too yeah
there it is.
Speaker 1: Like she pee herself, like what's going on?
Speaker 2: But she's got a little armpit, so too Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well so yeah, Ryan and Brandon are going at it,
and ultimately Ryan ends up winning and Brandon looks like
he still has quite a bit to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think Ryan, this is this is Ryan's game. He
just did a really good job. He knew how to
tie these nonsense up.
Speaker 3: I mean it just yeah, yeah, because Ryan Ryan said
when he originally started that he was going to focus
on the door. He wasn't going to do any of
this extemporaneous stuff. He was just going to focus on
that side of the door and keeping it closed. And
Brandon kind of went all over the place, with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one of those confessionals. Yeah, this is
one of those confessionals that gave it away to me
a little bit because Ryan was on and on about
his strategy, his technique and Brandon was just like, I
don't know, I'm just gonna do my best, and it's like, yeah, okay,
I know.
Speaker 3: You could tell that Brandon was defeated, and Ryan was like, yeah,
I had I had an actual strategy going into this game.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So then, I mean, the episode is ending with TJ
telling everybody like all of the eliminated players are still there,
which I found a little strange. I didn't know if
that was like we're just keeping them around so they
can watch all of the games and then sending everybody
out at the same time because I noticed it when
Polly was still rooting for Kara. I didn't realize it
up until that point. So TJ has all the eliminated
players standing in front of him and he tells everybody
eliminated and still there that how you treat people really
matters in this game, and then sends all of the
continuing players away, and everybody's kind of like, why is
he keeping all of the eliminated players. Why are they
still why are they still there? There are multiple comments
about that. Well, we find out that there's a thing
called a karma vote. Everybody who gets eliminated, at least
I assume it's going to continue on. Everybody who gets
eliminated gets a karma vote, and they have to rate
the remaining players in a scale of five to one,
five being the highest, one being the lowest, and these
votes will factor in later on this game. He doesn't
tell us how, He doesn't tell us what they factor in.
Speaker 4: Two.
Speaker 3: We don't know if it's a final thing, no idea,
But what do you guys think about this?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 2: I think they're not telling us many secrets because I
don't think they know. I think they're going to wait
to see who gives who what points before they decide
what they're going to do at these fucking points.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see that it does sound kind of
like something they would to Well, it's it's we think
that this could factor in this way, but if it
doesn't go the way we want it to, then we're
just gonna let it peter out. If the deal.
Speaker 2: Ryan's asking my next question, because it's like, why a
scale of one to five and what do these numbers
correlate to? Like, yeah, it seems like there's no real
strated like is five a good number or is that
a bad number? You know what I mean? Like, what
are we what are these numbers?
Speaker 3: I want to say. They did say that five was
better and one is worst?
Speaker 2: Okay, so five is like your favorite player, one is
your least favorite player. Do you rank every single player
one to five or you just have five players?
Speaker 3: No, it's every remaining.
Speaker 2: Player, so you could you could you rank every player five?
Speaker 3: You just got five five, But it sounds like you could.
Speaker 4: Okay, but yeah, now what like lower is definitely the worst?
Because we had a couple of people being like, oh
I wish I could give negative numbers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like this part of the game. I like
the I think it's a nice little twist. We'll see.
Speaker 3: I hope that it. I hope that it plays out well.
I hope that it actually factors in in a way
that is meaningful and it's not just some like I
don't know, random bullshit that they just decide, Like you know,
everybody has to have a skull in order to go
to the finale, but you know, if you don't have
a skull. Then we're just going to give you. We're
gonna give you one more chance, and we're actually gonna
give three out here instead of just one.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I hope that it actually plays out in a better
way than that.
Speaker 2: How great would it be to have like Carra and Laurel,
Like Laurel beats Kara, you know what I mean. But
then it's like, oh, well we went through the numbers
and Kara, you got more karma points or whatever the
fuck so you get a million dollars. Then I'd be like, Okay,
I love that. I'm into this karma points thing, you know,
I would love that.
Speaker 3: I would love that if any but if Laurel, if
Laurel was up against anybody and that other person got
the karma points.
Speaker 2: Of Laurel celebrating, I won I crossed that finish line first.
Speaker 3: Doing this suck it like she just oh yeah, Natalie
and have it just rug pulled out from underneath her.
Speaker 2: Yep, like gat TJ's like, sorry, dude, one fewer karma point,
you're getting nothing.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I don't wanted to be one fewer karma point.
I want it to be like this person had seventy
five and you had two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, either way, as long as it's as long as
it's a deciding vote somehow, I'm in.
Speaker 1: Nope, I don't like it.
Speaker 2: Why didn't you like it?
Speaker 1: Because then if it's like reversed, Car went and then
Laurel gets more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it all depends on if it's.
Speaker 1: A situation like that where it can be twisted into
something we don't like them.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: Well, then I'm just gonna be super hippocritical at that
point in time, so that I hated it, we're.
Speaker 2: Doing it, Carly, me and you were sticking together.
Speaker 3: On the side. I mean, at least we recognize this.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's a reality show, man, I'm just gonna enjoy it.
Gives a ship.
Speaker 4: Because I mean, I do think we have to face it.
Like as much as like the audience loves car and
hites Laurel, every time we've seen them in the house together,
the other players seem to side with Laurel over Kara.
So I think if it comes down to the boat,
Laurel's definitely being Kara in the Karma vote.
Speaker 2: I agree with you, and I don't understand why that's true,
but it does seem like like you're right. I don't know.
I don't know. It doesn't make sense to me, but
you're right.
Speaker 1: Everybody head over to challenge pot dot com. Join the
Facebook group. You can also want a Patreon, Tim, what
do people Patreon?
Speaker 2: I have a lot to talk about with this Patreon
situation at the moment. It's five dollars a month. You
get exclusive access to pre shows after shows years and
years with the content, of course. But I'm also putting
together this LP, this vinyl for our four hundredth episode.
It's coming. All these songs are done. We're doing a
photo shoot next week. It's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 3: Wait, why are we doing a photo shoot next week?
Speaker 2: Tim, We're gonna be in Chicago doing this. Are we
Challenged event meeting CT Come meet us?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: It's awesome. Uh. And and Wolfy's getting a thing signed.
And my point was.
Speaker 3: With that that thing is it's.
Speaker 2: Pretty neat, it's super cool. With your five dollars a month,
your name will be printed on the record. Anybody that's
ever given us a single penny is printed on the record.
So if you want to be on the record, this
is your chance, sign on and do it. We shall
also put them on the YouTube videos because like, why not,
We'll figure a way to do that. We're on YouTube.
So look at all this stuff you're getting for five bucks,
and I think that's it. The record will be able
to for you to order soon.
Speaker 3: The record is not part of the five dollars.
Speaker 2: It is not, but but you'll get a photo of
it for free. How about that?
Speaker 3: Perfect.
Speaker 2: I've been putting the songs, previews of the songs up
on discord too. You get access to the discord about that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you did it?
Speaker 1: You think you'll be able to order through Patroon.
Speaker 2: I think they have like a merch Yeah cool, yep,
and we'll sign it, we'll do other stuff. It'll be great.
Speaker 1: Uh. Do people get their name set on the show?
Speaker 3: Tim?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Fuck, yeah they do. We also say I'm telling you, dude,
I'm like, I'll throw it off when I have to
like do stuff, it sucks. So we also say your
name on the podcast itself. So thank you to Elena,
Alvin and I Care, Aline, Christopher, Cindy, Edwardo, Greg Gretchen,
Jamie Jamie, Julie, Laura Martez, Maverick, Patty Rowld, and Ryan Samuel,
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Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Thanks everybody.
Speaker 3: I hope you see all of you next week in.
Speaker 2: Chicago except that one. You know that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know who you are.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: Do you guys want to talk about some Fantasy Week stuff?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Zach, you wanna do the host league?
Speaker 4: Uh? Sure? And the host league that I keep scoring
and I guess that's the one that you're asking about.
Speaker 3: Yep, it's.
Speaker 4: Up to fund words all right. So in first place, well,
I guess well said that I'm in last place with
a thirty points right now? Is Tim?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: Yes, uh Ti, I go for that back to back
last place.
Speaker 2: I'm in it though, I'm in it. I think I'm
gonna beat Wolfe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you still have seven players, Yeah, yep, so we're
doing well.
Speaker 4: In third place with thirty one points is Wolfe, who
unfortunately lost four players this week though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but your remaining players are pretty strong. I mean
you've got Kara, Johnny, tory A, Nissa, Naya, and devn
I mean, other than Anissa, the rest of your players
are on the on.
Speaker 1: The backup, the backup host league. On is this real
world something? I'm number one. So those are that's the
only scoring I recognize.
Speaker 3: Not only not only are you number one, you are
number one with four hundred and ninety five points, and
second place is me at three hundred and eighty seven.
You've got us by over one hundred points and you
lost four people last week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is how much I rule.
Speaker 4: Yes, and uh in second place with thirty three points
is Zachie Bananas. You dropped out of first place, which
means Carlin for the one point more than thirty four.
Carlin is currently leading two weeks in, so it's still close.
That it's four points between first and last. That's anyone's game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Zach is the only one of the full team.
I have nine players, Tim has seven, Wolf he has six.
Speaker 2: Six Yep, now was I know we're trying to wrap
up the show. I did not like saying goodbye to
so many of my favorites in one episode. That was
the one disappointment here.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, you should have made a memorial song I
should have got.
Speaker 3: Yeah, some time you can put it on the on
the discord. So really quickly for the uh, the full
public fantasy league that you are competing to be to
get a guest host spot on the show. First place
right now is CT all Day, so they have kicked.
I don't remember who was in it last week. I
think it was CT Fun Home or something so CT
all Day, which is Ayana. They've got three hundred and
thirty two points. Second place is Team h with two
hundred and ninety nine, and third place is T Mobile
Sidekicks Jacqueline, and I think Jacqueline was at two hundred
and ninety six. I think Jacqueline was in third place
last week too.
Speaker 2: She's in the chat room. Hi Jack, Hi, Jacqueline.
Speaker 3: Nice, Hi Jack Clacklin.
Speaker 2: Congratulations on your third place.
Speaker 3: And then for the hosts in the public league, I'm
sitting at fifth. Let's see, We've got Wolfie in at
twentieth right, Big Uncle Sweet Tea at thirty second, and
Zachie Banana is at thirty fourth.
Speaker 2: Whoop, whoop, I got you, Zach. I beat you by
two spots on that one you did.
Speaker 3: And then our our Real Quick our Budget league for
a Crisp Hi Fi Virtual High five T Bull Most Sidekicks.
Jacqueline is in first, c Phone at Home is in second,
and I am in third, and then zach is in fourth.
Speaker 4: I was in first last week on that I was like, oh,
I don't think any of my players left. I'm probably
still in first. And y'all kicked my butt and surpassed me.
Speaker 3: Yep, big uncle sweet tea year and eighth there and well,
I don't play. I don't think you're playing this one.
Speaker 1: Yep, nope. Uh too many, too many, too many.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so fucking fun. I had no idea how
they're so fun.
Speaker 3: I actually signed up for a few of the other
just like random public ones, just just to do it, yeah,
to see it, like to change up my my votes
and see how I would do depending on who I picked.
It's been fun.
Speaker 2: I'm doing the Survivor once for sure next season and
man news that we can get over in the after
show for sure. But I'm going to the Aras Tour guys,
just so you know, in November. Oh, so we are
doing like a league est thing with with what outfits
and ship fucking Taylor Swift wears for concerts and ship
like that. Interesting, So there you go. I'm doing other
league type of situations like that. Nice, all right, And
I was just a good excuse to brag about going
to the Airs Tour so you guys know I'm going.
Speaker 3: I would not have expected that of you, Tim, but
I expect to see full arms of bracelets and all
of the things afterwards.
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna dress like folklore.
Speaker 3: I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1: Did anybody get the confessional or get the challenge questions? Correct?
Speaker 3: Oh? That is a good question.
Speaker 2: How do we know if we got them right?
Speaker 1: Your line up? But then go to challenge questions?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So the first one was who was the first professional
of the episode? I said Laurel, but it was actually Thailand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I yep, I put Derek, and so I
did not I did not get it right.
Speaker 1: And then under who was going to get eliminated? I
put in Maurs me too, So I got points for
that one.
Speaker 3: I think I did the thing of where I just
I pulled it open to pick a person and then
just kind of flicked my thumb and then stopped it
and Nurits happened to be the person lucked out there.
Speaker 4: I think I will on at least one of them
for first one or for going out.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm stupid, guys. Where are you seeing this?
Because when I hate questions, it shows me something most When.
Speaker 3: You have this up, there's a button right here that
says questions.
Speaker 4: Yeah, click on the question.
Speaker 3: It gives you two questions, and then you just choose
who you want your players to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah I did that. How do I see what
I picked? Last week?
Speaker 3: You go to school? Yeah, you just click on your
name down here. Oh, click on my name and then
it says line up on one side and challenge questions
on the other. So you haven't answered any of them?
Speaker 2: Did this week?
Speaker 3: Last week? Last week you said Corey would be the
one the first one to get a confessional and Tony
would go home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, I didn't do it right. Well, I mean
I did it right. I just didn't get it. I
just didn't guess it right.
Speaker 3: Oh, Zach got both questions right. So he said Kylon
for the first one, and he said Pauli for the second.
Speaker 4: Did I really have? It's awesome. I realize I got.
I knew I had Paula. I didn't realize I put Kylan.
Speaker 1: Yep right, says this is why you have a YouTube
right here? Wolf, he should be screen sharing now.
Speaker 4: That makes sense. I feel like I.
Speaker 1: Wasn't looking on my computer that I was looking on
my phone.
Speaker 4: Yep, Yeah, that makes sense because I remember thinking like
that we'd probably come back to like start the episode
with Pauli and Theo's like face down, so that I
will probably get like one of the Era four people
like commenting on it.
Speaker 3: So makes sense, right, An.
Speaker 4: We have a couple of things. We have a the
Supercheaese has come out for the next season of House
of Villains, which is starring West Bergman on October ninth,
So that's out there if anyone wants check that out.
Speaker 2: Anybody else on the show that's worth worth talking about.
Speaker 1: Isn't it? Aren't they showing it is like west versus Richard.
Speaker 4: Hatch Richard Hatches on it? Yeah, mister Spectacular from Big
Brothers on it? So got that? Uh? And Maiah Yes,
New York is on it again this season. Nea Mayah
has announced that he will be doing a podcast on
Patreon this year covering the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody gives a share.
Speaker 3: People all people to comment on the show. I really
don't care to watch Neamiah.
Speaker 4: Yes, we had a couple of things from Jordan I
thought were interesting. I don't know if you guys saw this,
but first Jordan was talking about the challenge we saw
last week with uh where they have to like solve
the puzzle then go out in the wrath. And he
said before the chance started production said over and over
that if you you cannot swim, you have to use
the boat, and if you swim, you will be disqualified.
So he is very upset that Devin was not disqualified.
Speaker 3: I can understand that. I do think that Devon would
have had a bit of a case there, for his
boat is leaking and would not be and was not
water tight, So I think he might have a little
bit of a case there. But I understand why George
would be mad.
Speaker 4: Yes, And the other thing I wanted your guys opinion
on is that he's doing a Q and A and
A fan asked him how he felt about Millionaire Mitchell
not being on the season, and his response was, she's
done nothing on the show. She got carried by her
partners to two wins. She doesn't belong.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I can agree with the first two,
but doesn't belong like she belongs. She did, she did
make a like she's won twice, she made a space
and for her name here. Yeah, but she wanted she.
Speaker 3: Has she has a place but I feel like she
has a place like Amanda has a place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like personality place than a competitive place.
Speaker 3: I don't feel like she has a place like Karra
and Emily and Laurel and these other you know, champions
of this game.
Speaker 2: I don't think so either, But she's a name in
the game, and she's made an impact another way. I
don't know. I can see I don't miss her, but
I could see a case for it.
Speaker 1: Is she still banned?
Speaker 2: She's ever I don't know if she's like officially been banned,
but she seems on their shit list for sure.
Speaker 1: She got kicked off that one season for telling Josh
she was gay, but he was just too scared to
come out of the closet.
Speaker 3: Oh, I forgot about.
Speaker 1: That kicked her off, and she hasn't been back since.
Speaker 4: We also had Mark Long. They revealed a week one
hookup that we did not see in the episodes, but
apparently Brad was given it to Emily Emily Strom.
Speaker 2: Yes, God damn good for you, Brad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would not have expected that.
Speaker 2: Pairing me either, with that beard and everything, just.
Speaker 1: A bunch of muscles colliding together, just like rocks.
Speaker 2: It's like makes loud noises, Ryan.
Speaker 1: Says Brad Emily, that is a lot of meat.
Speaker 3: You are correct, Yeah, I wouldn't why they didn't show
anything of that.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's because it's no pleasant, squishy noises. It's like, yeah,
it's like an earthquake.
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna say didn't laugh long because Mark was like, yeah,
I don't think, you know, if it hasn't been by now,
I don't think it will. I don't know if that means,
you know, like it didn't last too long. But uh,
I think the final thing is if you have the
challenge is social media page. They have uploaded Johnny Banana's
toast from the beginning of the season, and I must
say it's way better than Rachel.
Speaker 3: I very seriously doubt that.
Speaker 1: Whatever I wish, Johnny would just fall off the face
of the planet.
Speaker 3: Happy anything else on social media?
Speaker 4: I think that's everything. John A was on Zach's podcast
Oh and Theo Vonn interviewed Donald Trump earlier this week.
Speaker 3: John A went on Zach's podcast.
Speaker 4: Yes, and Zach did a public apology to her for
how he treated her.
Speaker 2: Wow. You can see that part on the MTV Challenge subreddit.
It's like a two minute portion of his podcast, but
it's it's actually worth watching.
Speaker 1: As just a big like publicity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure it is, but the reality
seemed he seemed heartfelt with the apology and she accepted it,
and I thought it was a nice moment.
Speaker 3: And she did happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked if this has already happened
off air, because she did say later in the podcast
people ask her like, do you feel hey, Zach, And
she's like, no, Zach might have been cool for like
a while now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I do think that's true when you're living
through this shit. Sorry, I'm just gonna keep talking on. YEA,
when you're twenties and shit, and you're like, you know,
people mistreat you and you mistreat them back, and it's
like all confusing and shitty, and then you move on,
like you don't think about that shit when you're like
twenty five, Do I don't think about that stuff?
Speaker 1: Some of us have to go in to therapy for it.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I mean I've been in therapy too. But
it's been ten years or something since they've been fighting it.
It's not surprising to me that they're both sort of
as like, well, you know, I don't.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say something along that same lines, like
I don't know that he necessarily has apologized to her
up until this point, but I could see her just
kind of letting bygones be bygones and being like whatever,
I don't give a shit and we've moved on. We
both live have you know, families and kids and all this,
like it's getting off my nose anymore.
Speaker 4: And then some other podcast news. Laurel was on Morgan
will It's podcast Nana's Ax that did one season. She is,
I mean, Laurel continued the car Hey said that Carra
was the most overrated player in show history, and uh,
what's her name? Johnny's X can't her name now?
Speaker 2: Morgan?
Speaker 4: Morgan? Yes, uh, said that she would never come back
unless they her on a show a season, paired up
with Mariah and they put Johnny in the house with
both of them.
Speaker 3: Funny, that'd be really funny. I also, at one point
in time in this episode, Kara says something to the
effect of like, why are you so obsessed with me?
In relation to Johnny and Laurel? And this is it
falls into that same category. I agree, Why why Hey,
I really dislike her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's she seems insufferable too.
Speaker 3: Yes, I truly do not understand how she seems to
get people in the house on her side, Like, it
does not make sense to me with everything that we
have seen from her over the last fifteen years, It
truly does not make sense to me. Yeah, if they
all have amnesia for what she's done.
Speaker 4: I mean I know that your people, I don't know
what your experience was with her, tim, but when I
met her multiple I thought she was extremely charming.
Speaker 2: I too. Yeah, we have the interview up on this.
Yeah she uh, yeah, she was great in person, but
I can like there's toxicity under the surface. And maybe
it's just because I've watched her on the show for
so long, I can just sort of know it and
feel it and sense it. But you just feel it,
you can just see it, you can just hear it
in the way she says things. She's a negative, hateful person. Yeah,
it doesn't mean she's not charming or kind or nice
or fun or you know, fun, you like whatever, But
she's not a good person. I think she does petty
even native mean things.
Speaker 1: We've seen it, Yes, agreed, Uh, anything else is in it.
Speaker 4: I think that's pretty much everything.
Speaker 1: Okay, uh, as we said beforehead of a Challenge pot
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Speaker 2: Not Zach, We're gonna get Zach's smiling face looking like
a serial killer in his car.
Speaker 4: Oh oh, one other thing, real quick, I just remembered
there's a new show that started this week I highly
recommend called the Anonymous new reality show. And Xavier Praither, winner,
big brother and two time challenger is on it. Who
Xavier remember.
Speaker 2: What was his second one?
Speaker 4: Maybe it's only on one. I thought he's on two.
Maybe it was only one. He's on the USA one
or two?
Speaker 2: I think he was just on one USA and listen.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, so one time player but still.
Speaker 1: The Kyland we're not friends after their big brother.
Speaker 2: Sure, I just want to know Zach just dropped a
yeabit still yeah, was subtle, but it was there.
Speaker 1: Oh fuck, I'm trying to remember what my quote was
going to be and forgot. All right, Well, for this
episode of Challenge has been Brian.
Speaker 3: Big August with you Carl in San Diego zachu bananas.
Speaker 1: It's as I don't know. Carl has said, why are
you so obsessed with me, Charlie ch