Speaker 1: It's with d Y. I'm telling you easy. Boston's all right.
Speaker 2: Last hour we talked about an experience I had yesterday morning.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna reset it real quickly. If you guys
Speaker 2: want to talk about this and give me your point
Speaker 2: of view on it, that's great. If not, we can
Speaker 2: move on to a couple of other topics. But got
Speaker 2: a couple of calls in the line, Angelo and Tim.
Speaker 2: I will get to them. They've held over through the news.
Speaker 2: So yesterday I'm heading to the gym around eight thirty
Speaker 2: yesterday morning. And for those of you who are familiar
Speaker 2: with the geography of Brighton, come to the I'm coming
Speaker 2: down Lake Street from Cornmweuth Avenue and packed by Roger's
Speaker 2: Park of the right big ball field, and this is
Speaker 2: very little traffic, and so I catch a yellow light.
Speaker 2: My weight light turns red and as I'm sitting there waiting,
Speaker 2: I go to the gym this way every time, so
Speaker 2: I can almost tell you how long to light is.
Speaker 2: It's about, you know, a forty five second light. And
Speaker 2: I happen to notice, as I'm sitting there, at about
Speaker 2: the time the light is likely going to turn, there's
Speaker 2: a guy coming down Washington Street heading to Oak Square,
Speaker 2: and he is flying flying, He's going I'm guessing thirty
Speaker 2: five maybe forty miles an hour. Now he is going down.
Speaker 2: If you know the topography there, Oak Square is headed down.
Speaker 2: He's got all sorts of momentum. He looks like an
Speaker 2: older guy. He almost looks to me like he's wearing
Speaker 2: like his pajamas in a bathrobe or something. I don't know.
Speaker 2: He just looked odd, kind of wild here, looked like
Speaker 2: what sort of what you call like the nutty professional look.
Speaker 2: And I realize he's not going to stop. This light
Speaker 2: is going to turn, which it did turned green for me,
Speaker 2: red for him, and he was still a good I
Speaker 2: don't know, thirty forty yards from the intersection, never slowed
Speaker 2: down and just through the light. I thank god that
Speaker 2: I was aware of him, because if I hit for
Speaker 2: whatever reason and daydreaming had not looked and caught him
Speaker 2: coming at that speed, I was thinking to myself, this
Speaker 2: guy's just going to blow the light. He just blew
Speaker 2: through the light. I mean, and he was going thirty
Speaker 2: or thirty five maybe forty miles an hour. He was
Speaker 2: going faster than I would drive my car in that
Speaker 2: in that part of brighton, to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: and needless to say, I had rolled into the intersection,
Speaker 2: just kind of seeing and then he flew by. I
Speaker 2: mean he flew by of course, gave him a good
Speaker 2: shot in the horn, which typical not I like, wake
Speaker 2: him up, Wake up, man, I mean you, if someone
Speaker 2: hadn't paid attention, he could have easily, easily he would
Speaker 2: not have survived an accident. It scared me. So I
Speaker 2: tell you that story simply to make the point. I'm
Speaker 2: not trying to go on an anti bike rand here
Speaker 2: at all. I'm trying to make the point that we
Speaker 2: got to be careful. You know, nobody wants to have
Speaker 2: a hood ornament on their car of someone's someone else
Speaker 2: or their bike.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: But you bike riders out there smart enough. You don't
Speaker 2: own the roads. You don't pay for the roads. Drivers
Speaker 2: pay for the roads. But protect yourself. Stop and stop,
Speaker 2: obey the obey the laws in the road. It is
Speaker 2: only for your own good that I'm trying to recommend
Speaker 2: this to you. It's as simple as that. If you're
Speaker 2: offended by it, I'm sorry, wake up, be offended. Keep
Speaker 2: it in the back of your mind and maybe some
Speaker 2: of you. One of you will save your life at
Speaker 2: some point. Okay, sixty six seven ninety, let's go gonna
Speaker 2: go to Tim. Tim, you are next up on nights.
Speaker 2: I appreciate the fact that you held through the news,
Speaker 2: the eleven o'clock news. You're up, Tim, go right ahead.
Speaker 3: What's your thought, Tim, Dan, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 3: I think this whole thing's out of control. This bike
Speaker 3: thing is ridiculous.
Speaker 2: I tend to agree with you. I think that we
Speaker 2: have surrendered the roads to the bicyclist thanks to the politician,
Speaker 2: simple as that. Uh, but I don't want to see
Speaker 2: anybody get hurt. I don't want to see anyone get hurt,
Speaker 2: simple as that.
Speaker 3: Stick as tolls, taxes, gass, they don't pay anything that's right,
Speaker 3: and they.
Speaker 2: They now own certain portions of the route. So you know,
Speaker 2: that's the reality that we're dealing with. We have lost
Speaker 2: that fight. As as automobile drivers, uh, you know, triple
Speaker 2: A that should have been been standing there for us,
Speaker 2: and the politicians have bent over backwards for the bike riders.
Speaker 2: And that's that's fine. I just some of them, just
Speaker 2: I have no idea. What was There wasn't much going
Speaker 2: through this guy's mind yesterday morning. If I had not
Speaker 2: been paying attention, he might not have made it through
Speaker 2: that intersection. If I, if I was asleep at the wheel,
Speaker 2: it was going to happen. I mean, we see, we
Speaker 2: see cars stop on railroad tracks, so people obviously who
Speaker 2: were driving are not thinking. But this guy, as a
Speaker 2: bike rider, was not thinking. And you put him with
Speaker 2: someone who's gonna stop on a railroad tracks and not
Speaker 2: paying attention to the warning bells and the gates and
Speaker 2: the lights and the noise. You know, it's it's it's.
Speaker 4: I really feel I really feel bad.
Speaker 3: That he were subjected to this guy.
Speaker 2: You know again, it woke me up a little bit,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you, because I've seen some guys I've seen
Speaker 2: For example, you're stopped at a red light, the bike
Speaker 2: pulls up next to you, and the guy kind of
Speaker 2: looks both ways. No traffic is coming, so he just
Speaker 2: scoots through the intersection. At least he looks both ways. Now,
Speaker 2: if we had done that and there was a police
Speaker 2: officer there, we get pulled over for riding, for running
Speaker 2: a red light, and when we see time nothing coming
Speaker 2: into you the direction of the officer, CoP's gonna say
Speaker 2: I don't really care. You went through a red light.
Speaker 2: The guy on the bike goes through the red light,
Speaker 2: there's nobody to stop him. They have learned that their
Speaker 2: time is more valuable than our time. They are more
Speaker 2: important than we are, and therefore you know they have
Speaker 2: they have all of that.
Speaker 3: That's You're absolutely right. They think they're more important than us.
Speaker 2: That's what it comes down to, tim as always, man,
Speaker 2: thank you much, appreciate your call.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, thanks.
Speaker 2: Dan, talk soon, palp bye by. Let's keep rolling here.
Speaker 2: Let me get Angelo from Angelo. You're next nights, go
Speaker 2: right ahead.
Speaker 5: I don't answer. I hope you can hand me. Nobody
Speaker 5: bes the laws anymore, Dan. I seen people go to
Speaker 5: red lights, or either that the red lights and then
Speaker 5: their daydreaming. They're looking at the phone. You blow the
Speaker 5: on them because the light is green. They get mad
Speaker 5: and now look, now, look what's going on the I'll
Speaker 5: tell you something. I seen a person raving a standwheel
Speaker 5: with their elbows on the wheel, or even a sandwich.
Speaker 2: Worse than that.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, if they ht somebody, they're gonna kill himself. Lin't.
Speaker 5: I can't go to red lights like you won't believe
Speaker 5: don't be abased red lights anymore. Dan, Yeah, unbelievable. What's
Speaker 5: going on in this well? Was like they have their
Speaker 5: minds some other place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately, And it would have been my fault, even
Speaker 2: though the guy blew through the red light. It's so
Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta be careful. I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: want it in my conscience. I hope no one wants
Speaker 2: it in their conscience. It's frustrating. It's very frustrating as
Speaker 2: a driver. Uh. And there's no politician that I know
Speaker 2: of who has ever taken a stance and said, hey,
Speaker 2: we got to start. Look at what they've done in
Speaker 2: West Roxbury. They've destroyed Center Street in West Roxbury. It's
Speaker 2: that you kind of a parking space over there anymore.
Speaker 2: And if you do, you're lucky. And they bicyclists have won.
Speaker 5: And it's crazy. And nobody even though I'm gonna blak
Speaker 5: a line on a walking crosswalk anymore, they blurry by you.
Speaker 5: The other day, was I put the light on the street,
Speaker 5: like four or five cars they kept right on board. Stop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just the common courtesy. My wife and I were
Speaker 2: with our two and a half year old grandson on Sunday,
Speaker 2: we went across a street in Newton. We took them
Speaker 2: to Cabots ice Cream, had an ice cream and we're
Speaker 2: we're standing there waiting across the street and these cars
Speaker 2: just kept blowing by. Was like, okay, wait a seconds
Speaker 2: and uh an older couple with a two and a
Speaker 2: half year old. Maybe if someone wants to stop and
Speaker 2: give us a chance. No, so, hey, we're all in
Speaker 2: a rush. We're all in a rush. So swing down,
Speaker 2: slow it down. Thanks.
Speaker 5: Rush Where they go again?
Speaker 2: Nowhere? No, they're going nowhere, but they're going nowhere fast. Agelo,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Thanks buddy, that's right, that's I thank you again.
Speaker 1: Once you two.
Speaker 2: Good night. Here's my friend Laurie in Idaho. You don't
Speaker 2: have to worry about bike riders in Idaho, I'm sure right.
Speaker 4: Oh yes we do.
Speaker 3: Do you really stand tint Point cave to them years ago?
Speaker 3: They don't even but there's not room for bike lines.
Speaker 3: But they bikes have the right of way all over
Speaker 3: downtown standpoint really, so every interception is that the law?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a sign as you gives you get into town.
Speaker 3: It's a pedestrian and bicycle friendly town. And because first,
Speaker 3: you know, and my sister said, just don't even just
Speaker 3: expect one to cross in front of you at every intersection,
Speaker 3: because they will. And there's no room between the parking
Speaker 3: and the so it's it is very frustrating, but it's
Speaker 3: amazing for your story. How you see one little thing
Speaker 3: it just catches your eye and you think, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: It scared the heck out of me, to be honest
Speaker 2: with you. I mean, I thought to myself, I was
Speaker 2: just heading to the gym, so I was fine. I
Speaker 2: wasn't in any rush. There was no traffic on a
Speaker 2: Sunday morning early great.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: And all of a sudden I saw this guy and
Speaker 2: I thought, it's this guy. Is this fool gonna stop?
Speaker 2: Because I don't think he could have stopped.
Speaker 7: No, probably break work.
Speaker 2: But maybe maybe. And he looked like a nutty professor,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of had that though the hair was wild.
Speaker 2: I would say he was, you know, in his sixties.
Speaker 3: It wasn't accuse rushing to meet dealer.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, I don't know. Maybe he was
Speaker 2: head and he was late for Mass on Sunday morning.
Speaker 2: I don't know, he at the eight thirty.
Speaker 3: But who did you have any reaction to the horn.
Speaker 2: No, because he blew by me so fast it was
Speaker 2: I blasphemed wow as best I could. But he was
Speaker 2: you know, he was going if he was going forty
Speaker 2: miles an hour. Okay, if you if you do sixty
Speaker 2: miles an hour, you're doing eighty eight feet a second.
Speaker 2: I learned that in driving school a long time ago.
Speaker 2: So he's doing forty, he's doing about sixty feet a second.
Speaker 2: So he was passed me in sixty feet. That's how
Speaker 2: I calculated his speed.
Speaker 3: So he had I was kind of hope and who
Speaker 3: had been raised he went by and he would have
Speaker 3: scared him and he fellows.
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 2: I hit it pretty I timed it pretty well. But
Speaker 2: I wanted him to like, wake up, right, but yeah,
Speaker 2: woke up. Yeah. I was interested in getting through the
Speaker 2: intersection because I didn't want the light to turn green
Speaker 2: and right.
Speaker 3: I just want real mess on your hands.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, And I didn't want I don't want
Speaker 2: my car to get scratched.
Speaker 3: Now exactly what a pain in the neck that would
Speaker 3: have been to deal with.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry to hear it that in Sandpoint Idaho.
Speaker 3: Uh, they have taken over and this this road that
Speaker 3: I'm living on now has been recently repaved, so it
Speaker 3: is a favorite for all the little recreationalists to get
Speaker 3: out there. So you can go down my own road
Speaker 3: to get home. You know, three four in the breast
Speaker 3: and got two kids in to Nobody moves to the side.
Speaker 7: Of the road.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again their their day and their exercise. Do
Speaker 2: you have the spandex people out there or they just
Speaker 2: dressed as normal human being? Know?
Speaker 3: Some of them are spandexy with lovely little pointy helmets
Speaker 3: and all that crap.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there are some normals.
Speaker 2: But what they want you to think like they're they're
Speaker 2: they're a teammate of Lance Armstrong of some sort.
Speaker 3: They're practicing for Tour de France. I know it's very important.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, or at least the tour by a
Speaker 2: bois one of the other.
Speaker 6: Right, that sounds much?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the tour to Quartel, I like that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that would be great.
Speaker 3: I think they do have one of those. Actually, I
Speaker 3: think we have a short bike grace down the summer
Speaker 3: now I think about it. I guess I stole that one,
Speaker 3: but I guess yeah, okay, Well, I'm glad you stopped
Speaker 3: and didn't didn't hurt your car.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you it would It would honestly, if
Speaker 2: that ever happened, it would ruin your life. I mean
Speaker 2: it would be like, oh my god, because you'd be
Speaker 2: second guessing yourself. And I just happen to see this dude,
Speaker 2: because if I hadn't seen him would have rolled through
Speaker 2: the intersection. He either would have been an ornament on
Speaker 2: my hood or he would have filled himself at the side.
Speaker 2: I mean he he would have looked like a cartoon
Speaker 2: one of those cartoon characters that hit the a and
Speaker 2: just slinked down.
Speaker 1: I'm seriously flat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I wish the guy was listening. And if
Speaker 2: he was, I wish he had at the courage to
Speaker 2: call and say, hey, look, I'm sorry. I was out
Speaker 2: of control, and maybe he had something on his mind
Speaker 2: that that that didn't didn't permit him. He was on
Speaker 2: an incline coming down. I'll give him that credit, which
Speaker 2: is because he was flyn.
Speaker 3: But he was in pajamas in a bathroom.
Speaker 6: Come on, I think he was.
Speaker 2: I think that's what it looked like to me. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 4: It sent you a message earlier.
Speaker 3: He was riding it like he was stolen, because it
Speaker 3: probably was.
Speaker 8: That could have been too, that could have been to
Speaker 8: you never know, Laurie. You figured it out, all right,
Speaker 8: Thanks Laurie, talk soon, okay, have a great right, all right.
Speaker 8: I got a couple of lines if you'd like six, what, seven, two,
Speaker 8: ten thirty, want to defend the the bicyclist.
Speaker 2: I don't know, mate, I have no idea what this
Speaker 2: guy was thinking. I know what he was thinking. He
Speaker 2: wasn't thinking. It was as simple as that, because if
Speaker 2: the bet anybody else, you know, I was lucky. I
Speaker 2: was lucky that I didn't hit him. I was lucky
Speaker 2: that I saw him coming and that I said to
Speaker 2: him and there was no way it's going to beat
Speaker 2: him through the intersection. Even though I had the green light,
Speaker 2: I just didn't trust it. Back on Nightside, one line
Speaker 2: at six one, seven ninety. I got some lines at
Speaker 2: six one, seven, two, five, four to ten thirty. Love
Speaker 2: to keep it going. If we don't, we'll finish up
Speaker 2: and we'll go to something else. Coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w BEZ,
Speaker 1: Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go. We get Doug in North Carolina. Hey, Doug,
Speaker 2: we go from Idaho to North Carolina. That's what nightside
Speaker 2: is all about at this time of night. How were you, Doug?
Speaker 6: Hey Dan? Long time, no speak. I just had to
Speaker 6: get in on this. I couldn't resist. Once a week
Speaker 6: I have the displeasure of going for Raleigh over to well,
Speaker 6: we call it the People's Republic of Chapel Hill, and
Speaker 6: that is where.
Speaker 2: Go ahead. I'm sorry, Ayead.
Speaker 6: Anyway, so that's where the University of North Carolina says.
Speaker 6: Franklin Street goes right in front of it, and the
Speaker 6: lights are timed. They're placed like every two or three blocks.
Speaker 6: I feel like I'm back in New York, a light
Speaker 6: every second or third block. Well, of course they are
Speaker 6: all mistimed. So to go one mile from Chapel Hill
Speaker 6: into Carboro takes about twenty twenty five minutes because you
Speaker 6: stop at every light. Well, I finally asked a copper
Speaker 6: in formally. I said, look, officer, I'm not going to
Speaker 6: quote you directly, but what is the situation here with
Speaker 6: these lights changing red every two blocks? He said, over
Speaker 6: that time? For the bikes, the bikers, I said that
Speaker 6: what Yeah, that's they're time for the bikers, so they're
Speaker 6: not inconvenience. It used to be two lanes each way.
Speaker 6: It's I mean, we're lucky to have one lane. Okay.
Speaker 2: Well, you know it's funny you call you called the bikers.
Speaker 2: They're bicyclists. Okay, the bikers and guys and gals that
Speaker 2: ride Harley's and stuff like that. Don't mix up bikers
Speaker 2: with bicyclists. See if you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but sometimes you don't know the difference.
Speaker 2: Right by the way, I think I understand that you
Speaker 2: would ask a police officer that question because if I
Speaker 2: think we've had conversations before, and you are in the
Speaker 2: field of journalism, correct.
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I spent my whole life on the air
Speaker 6: up and you know, like you were on BUZ. I
Speaker 6: was Channel four and Channel two in New York and
Speaker 6: then CBS Radio.
Speaker 2: So so therefore that's your natural instinct to be curious.
Speaker 6: That's exactly just like you. Right, we can't pass the
Speaker 6: situation without asking a question.
Speaker 2: Well, I have my quote from Einstein here that you've
Speaker 2: heard me read. I'll read it again. Einstein said, smart guy.
Speaker 2: He said, I have no special talent. I'm only passionately
Speaker 2: curious curious. Yep, So that's that's what you and I are.
Speaker 2: We're not Einstein, don't get me wrong, but we do
Speaker 2: have that that interest. Doug, thank you, I'm driving.
Speaker 6: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll do me a favor. Be more, be more
Speaker 2: of a participant here at night side. I miss here
Speaker 2: in your voice.
Speaker 6: Thanks, give you bye bye, right back at you.
Speaker 2: Let me keep you early here, going to go to
Speaker 2: christ and Brock and Chris, you're next on nights. I
Speaker 2: go ahead. How you doing, I'm doing great. How are
Speaker 2: you tonight, Chris? Welcome?
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm doing well.
Speaker 7: I'm doing well.
Speaker 9: So last week I had the same kind of issue. Uh,
Speaker 9: actually driving down the street going through a green light,
Speaker 9: and it was a cyclist not paying attention, actually on
Speaker 9: his cell phone, and he actually, as I'm driving, ran
Speaker 9: right into the side of my car, went right up
Speaker 9: over my hood and everything, and uh, you know, just
Speaker 9: not even paying attention.
Speaker 2: How much how much damage? How much damage to the bicyclist?
Speaker 2: How much damage to your car?
Speaker 9: Well the bicyclist cut up and walked away.
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, he knew he was not he knew he
Speaker 3: was at.
Speaker 9: Fall he tried to walk away. The police, you know,
Speaker 9: came obviously, and you know they stopped and talked to
Speaker 9: him and everything.
Speaker 10: And I had several witnesses that you know, stopped to
Speaker 10: say that it wasn't my fault moddly.
Speaker 4: And you know, there wasn't much he could say to do.
Speaker 9: I mean, he just was not paying attention.
Speaker 3: And it's a constant thing.
Speaker 9: It always happens.
Speaker 10: I see it all the time.
Speaker 5: These guys just they.
Speaker 9: Don't even pay attention.
Speaker 10: They don't care if the lights green, red, purple, yellow, whatever.
Speaker 2: That guy could have bought the farm. The only time
Speaker 2: that I ever had anything run into the side of
Speaker 2: my car was on Martha's vineyard maybe twenty years ago,
Speaker 2: when a deer in in the mating season came out
Speaker 2: and I basically nailed him. It was like hitting a
Speaker 2: stone wall, came out of nowhere, nowhere. And but for
Speaker 2: a bicyclist that that's this guy yesterday, if he if
Speaker 2: if he had hit my car, he would not have survived.
Speaker 2: At the speed he was going. This guy was going
Speaker 2: at least thirty five forty miles an hour on a
Speaker 2: downhill track.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I tell you, it's scary, you know, it's scared
Speaker 10: the liver bajeevas out of me.
Speaker 3: I have a I mean, so let me ask you,
Speaker 3: let me let me anyway.
Speaker 4: I mean, let me ask you.
Speaker 2: Was there damage to your car? Once we know that
Speaker 2: he survived, was there damage to your car or to
Speaker 2: his bike?
Speaker 10: I don't know about because he, like I said, he
Speaker 10: picked up and walked away pretty quick once you heard
Speaker 10: the police coming.
Speaker 6: Yeah, my car is minimal.
Speaker 10: I mean you can tell where.
Speaker 6: I don't know if it was a knee or a
Speaker 6: should to hit it.
Speaker 10: There's a in my front corner, pianel.
Speaker 2: So who's gonna who's gonna pay to get that fixed?
Speaker 1: More life?
Speaker 7: That's gonna come out of pocket?
Speaker 10: Because I don't think the guy.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: I haven't still haven't got any info.
Speaker 6: From the guy yet.
Speaker 10: I got to get the police report today, which I
Speaker 10: went there to get that today, but I couldn't get
Speaker 10: anywhere near it because they're doing roadwork the police department.
Speaker 7: So I'll try again tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Go for it. Thanks. Thanks. I'm glad that that there
Speaker 2: wasn't more damnage to a car, and I'm glad that
Speaker 2: the guy survived so that that was not hanging on
Speaker 2: your you know on your conscience, simple as that. I
Speaker 2: appreciate it very much, Chris, thank you so much for
Speaker 2: calling and enjoying the conversation. Thank you, Thank you, Den,
Speaker 2: talk to you soon.
Speaker 4: Have night.
Speaker 2: All right, going to take quick break. I got some
Speaker 2: open lines here. Come on, let's finish strong six one
Speaker 2: seven four ten thirty six one seven nine three one
Speaker 2: ten thirty. We're talking about our bike riders. I had
Speaker 2: this guy yesterday. I mentioned it clearly. He's coming down
Speaker 2: the road. He's going thirty five to forty miles an
Speaker 2: hour Washington Street and Brighton. I saw him coming. The
Speaker 2: light turned green, his light turned red. He never slowed down,
Speaker 2: never breaked, blew through the intersection. I was aware of him.
Speaker 2: I started into the intersection. I stopped because I didn't
Speaker 2: think I could get through the intersection without clip, without
Speaker 2: him clipping me or me clipping him. And frankly, I
Speaker 2: didn't want him as a hood ornament. Uh and the
Speaker 2: and the few few extra seconds. I'm just going to
Speaker 2: the gym on a Sunday morning. I couldn't have been
Speaker 2: more relaxed. But on a in a dif different set
Speaker 2: of circumstances, maybe I wouldn't have noticed people like I'm
Speaker 2: not perfect. You daydream and you're thinking about something. Why
Speaker 2: did the Red Sox lose yesterday? And you're not You
Speaker 2: don't look, you gotta look, you gotta look. Drive defensively,
Speaker 2: assuming someone out there is trying to hitch your We'll
Speaker 2: be back on Nightside right after this break. And I
Speaker 2: got some lines, come on, fill them up. Six, one, seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty.
Speaker 2: And if you're a bike driver rider and you think
Speaker 2: bowling through an intersection with a red light at thirty
Speaker 2: five forty miles an hour is okay, make the case.
Speaker 2: I'll listen to you. I won't agree with you, but
Speaker 2: i'll listen to you. Coming back on Nightside, you're.
Speaker 1: On Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm w Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, here we go, let's keep rolling. Let me
Speaker 2: go to Jim. Jimy you were next on Nightside. Welcome Jim.
Speaker 2: How are you tonight? Where would Jim be.
Speaker 11: On Kansas City?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 11: Jim, go ahead, Okay, thanks Dann. Well, look, I'm not
Speaker 11: gonna argue the side of somebody who blew through a
Speaker 11: red light, but I just see this an opportunity for education,
Speaker 11: and I just would like to point out that there's
Speaker 11: a big difference between a motorcycle and a bicycle. So
Speaker 11: before we go impuning bicyclists, I think we should make
Speaker 11: sure that we know whether or not the thing had
Speaker 11: a motor on it. If it had a motor on it, No.
Speaker 2: It didn't have a mode. It was a bicycle. I
Speaker 2: saw it pretty clearly. It was a bicycle. Guy was
Speaker 2: peddling the bicycle. Okay, all right, well I know I'm
Speaker 2: just telling you it wasn't. It wasn't. It was a bicycle.
Speaker 2: And as a matter of fact, the guy looked as
Speaker 2: I said to you he had. He looked to me
Speaker 2: like he might have been either wearing pajamas and a bathrobe.
Speaker 2: It was an odd, uh state of dress. To be
Speaker 2: honest with you, he kind of you look look like
Speaker 2: a nutty professor type guy. Is what he looked like.
Speaker 11: If you I'm just I know, it sounds to me
Speaker 11: like he might have been wearing, uh like a spring
Speaker 11: suit with a with a rain jacket.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but uh, you know, I.
Speaker 2: Tired, Jim. If he was Natalie or Natalie attired as
Speaker 2: I should say, I would have told you, No, the
Speaker 2: guy looked like he looked weird, and I just for
Speaker 2: for a caught him out of the corner of my eye.
Speaker 2: I said, I don't think this guy is gonna stop.
Speaker 2: And I've waited a couple more seconds and became obvious,
Speaker 2: so I did not proceed through the intersection. Thank god.
Speaker 11: Well, I'm sorry. Well I'm sure, I'm sorry. You were shocked,
Speaker 11: and I can I can see how that would be
Speaker 11: very shocking, and I, uh, you know, I laud you
Speaker 11: for being you know, alert operator.
Speaker 2: Look, Jim another, I'm not looking for any sort of
Speaker 2: law a laudatory comments or or anything. I'm just saying
Speaker 2: I'm using it as as a cautionary tale. I've driven
Speaker 2: plenty of times and you're sort of you know, your daydreaming. Okay,
Speaker 2: we've all done that. Okay, and you say, how did
Speaker 2: I get this far down one twenty eight or what?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, No, that's I can
Speaker 2: happen to be alert. I was alert and I saw.
Speaker 11: That, and I thought, you're very you're a very responsible person.
Speaker 11: And I don't know if you know this or not,
Speaker 11: and I'm not completely aware of it all the time,
Speaker 11: but even when you have a green light, you still
Speaker 11: are required to stop for vehicles that are not yielding.
Speaker 11: You can't. If you see them coming, you can't just go.
Speaker 11: You can go, but it's not necessarily their fault because
Speaker 11: you had the green light. You're still required to yield
Speaker 11: to vehicles that are out of control.
Speaker 2: And I don't know what the laws are like in Missouri,
Speaker 2: but I can tell you that if let us say,
Speaker 2: you do have the green light and you roll into
Speaker 2: an intersection with the green light and somebody blows through
Speaker 2: on a red light, you may be obligated if common
Speaker 2: sense tells you to stop. I'm not looking to lose
Speaker 2: my lose my car the use of my car for
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks because but but in terms of
Speaker 2: the ultimate fault as you describe it, you know, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't think you could add contributory negligence and say, well,
Speaker 2: you know, did you see him coming. Most people are
Speaker 2: going to say no, I didn't see him coming. But
Speaker 2: even if they said, yeah, but I was stunned when
Speaker 2: he didn't stop, you know, I mean, well.
Speaker 11: Okay, so lawsrey different in all states, and police officers
Speaker 11: interpret him differently at the scene of all and so
Speaker 11: there's no time. But it could it could happen to
Speaker 11: even somebody behind the wheel of a car. They they
Speaker 11: maybe are not paying attention, they go through a red light,
Speaker 11: and yeah, you want to be you want to be
Speaker 11: watching for that.
Speaker 2: Kind of my attitude is there's always someone out there
Speaker 2: who is distracted, and I do not want to get
Speaker 2: into an accident. Period.
Speaker 11: I I really don't like these motorized bicycles because they
Speaker 11: give regular bicycles a really bad rap. Motorized I'm saying,
Speaker 11: I'm saying, I know that I'm saying on a different
Speaker 11: on a different subject. They are They're terrior It's it's
Speaker 11: terrible because it's a lot of fun. I mean, it's
Speaker 11: really fun going, you know, twenty thirty miles an hour
Speaker 11: on a bicycle, no helm, but man, when you hit
Speaker 11: that pavement, it's it. The fun stops.
Speaker 2: Would it surprise you if I told you that that
Speaker 2: irrespective of what this guy was wearing for clothes, irrespective
Speaker 2: he didn't have a helmet on.
Speaker 11: No helmet, Yeah they don't work.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 11: So anyway, well, the reason I know that, Sorry, I'm
Speaker 11: sorry you had a bad experience, and I mean, I really.
Speaker 6: Responsible operate.
Speaker 2: What do you say, no harm, no foul, so nobody
Speaker 2: got hurt. I hope that he didn't crash into someone
Speaker 2: else later.
Speaker 11: He will, he will, he will, he'll, he will, he'll
Speaker 11: he will. You know, you're you're rewarded by your own
Speaker 11: good behavior. He behave, will be upon for his own
Speaker 11: bad behavior.
Speaker 2: But you know, anyway, I don't want to get theological here.
Speaker 2: That's okay, Thanks Jim, we'll talk later. Thanks man, good night.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Matt. Matt, and you were next
Speaker 2: on NICEA go right ahead, gonna get you in here
Speaker 2: before the break.
Speaker 7: Go ahead, Matt, All right, how are we going then?
Speaker 12: You know, I hope you had a good weekend with
Speaker 12: your granddaughter and uh cabin had.
Speaker 2: A great weekend. Got got to the gym on Sunday,
Speaker 2: which is a huge positive. Yeah. Great, lot of fun,
Speaker 2: a lot of fun.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I'll say quickly.
Speaker 12: You know, I'm right outside you know Breton, you know square,
Speaker 12: And I was one time walking on a crosswalk. It
Speaker 12: was about twelve o'clock in the morning, and I got
Speaker 12: hit by a car straight up and the person drove
Speaker 12: off an appreciation major Wait, yeah, did you get.
Speaker 2: Hit by the front of the car or did the sideswipe?
Speaker 2: You tell me about it.
Speaker 12: No, no, no, I was walked, came across the crosswalk
Speaker 12: and he hit me on you know, my rib area
Speaker 12: or shit and kept driving. Yes, I mean it's right
Speaker 12: around that area too, from where you were saying.
Speaker 2: Do you know when I when I talk about Washington
Speaker 2: Street heading into Oak Square and if you've gone by
Speaker 2: the CBS on your right and you come down the
Speaker 2: Lake Street and he's coming down an incline, so he's
Speaker 2: going pretty fast anyway.
Speaker 7: I know exactly what you mean.
Speaker 12: Yeah, more like you know, I live five minutes less
Speaker 12: from there. But I'll say, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 12: You know your last caller if in Missouri that a
Speaker 12: yellow white doesn't mean that you keep going and you
Speaker 12: speed up. Yeah, you don't want to have a hood ornament.
Speaker 7: And I feel bad that.
Speaker 12: You went through that, But you know, diligence is on
Speaker 12: the obviously the person who needs to pay attention. You're
Speaker 12: lucky that you were looking in the right way, and
Speaker 12: you're nothing that anybody would want on their.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're always going to second guess yourself from
Speaker 2: the under those circumstances. And I just wish that look
Speaker 2: with as I said a couple of times and I'll
Speaker 2: say it one more time. All of us have been
Speaker 2: in Boston, have been at a red light and a
Speaker 2: bike comes up on your right hand side, uh, and
Speaker 2: they kind of slow down and they look both ways
Speaker 2: and there's nothing coming and they proceed through the intersection.
Speaker 2: I've seen that happen a thousand times.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I did it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get pulled over. They don't get pulled over.
Speaker 2: And I think with hit that gives them a sense
Speaker 2: of false confidence, and this guy had some sort of
Speaker 2: a sense of false confidence. I have no idea why
Speaker 2: he was. He was just barreling.
Speaker 12: I mean, he was, he was moving, stars were open early,
Speaker 12: and man, you know, I mean, whatever it is, you know,
Speaker 12: I you know, it just it's just good that you know,
Speaker 12: hopefully he you know, hopefully it's something that wouldn't happen
Speaker 12: again with that person. But when you're that aloof and
Speaker 12: you know, you were so attentive to it that you
Speaker 12: even remember what he was wearing, which shows that you
Speaker 12: really were cognitive and lucky to be looking kind of
Speaker 12: in that.
Speaker 2: Way, it struck me weird. It struck me weird. He
Speaker 2: had kind of there was no helmet, so his hair's
Speaker 2: kind of flying because he's moving fast. He's older. I
Speaker 2: can tell you that he didn't have a full head
Speaker 2: of hair, but his hair was kind of flying. And
Speaker 2: he looked to me. I was thinking, was this guy
Speaker 2: in pajamas in a robe? I mean, that's what it
Speaker 2: struck me as. Now, maybe it was different, Maybe it
Speaker 2: was a long overcoat. I don't know, but it struck
Speaker 2: me as weird. And when when he threw when he
Speaker 2: flew through the red light, I said, thank you. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, I blasted the horn at him. I mean,
Speaker 2: just to wake him up. I thought to myself, this guy,
Speaker 2: this guy is on Dream Street anyway.
Speaker 12: Uh yeah, Well, hopefully he won't do that again, because
Speaker 12: you know, it's not it's not just not there. It's
Speaker 12: more not there to the driver because it's you know,
Speaker 12: it's the mental part of it would be with you, second's.
Speaker 2: Second guessing yourself. He didn't particularly care about the value
Speaker 2: of his own life, right or or he just he
Speaker 2: just was on some sort of mission and he was
Speaker 2: so focused. But I don't see how if you're on
Speaker 2: a bike you blow through a red light.
Speaker 7: That like, I get that top.
Speaker 2: You know, that term for his hair, don't maybe beg
Speaker 2: you man, you too, will take a quick break. I
Speaker 2: got room for a couple more if you want to
Speaker 2: slide in here. Six one, seven, two, five four ten
Speaker 2: thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. We'll
Speaker 2: wrap it up on the other side. Gonna get Eddie
Speaker 2: and Reddy coming up. And I got Tim and Michigan.
Speaker 2: Always go hear from Tim and Michigan for from a
Speaker 2: bunch of states tonight, Idaho, LORII and Idaho. Doug in
Speaker 2: North Carolina Gym in Kansas City. I think we have
Speaker 2: anybody earlier. Yeah, we had Richard from Maine in the
Speaker 2: first hour. Always good to get a little cross section
Speaker 2: of people around the country. Feel free to join the
Speaker 2: conversation wherever you were located. I got room for you
Speaker 2: if you dial right now six one, seven, two, five
Speaker 2: four to ten thirty one line there, six one, seven,
Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty one line there. If you
Speaker 2: had a similar experience, if you want to, If you
Speaker 2: want to chastise me and tell me that I shouldn't
Speaker 2: be criticizing a bicycle, it's fine. I'll listen to you.
Speaker 2: I won't agree with you, but i'll listen to you.
Speaker 2: Coming back on night's side, and I am not doing
Speaker 2: a Clint Eastwood. This is not get off my lawn.
Speaker 2: This is me telling you verbatim what happened. And thank
Speaker 2: God that I'm not sitting here tonight saying hit this guy,
Speaker 2: because that I wouldn't want that on my conscience. And look,
Speaker 2: it could happen if I wasn't paying attention. I think
Speaker 2: just as it had happened to the Chris Don and rocked,
Speaker 2: and he would have slammed into the side of the
Speaker 2: car and he would have suffered the consequences as would
Speaker 2: of my car. Coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: By the way, tomorrow night, be talking with a couple
Speaker 2: of Massachusetts sheriffs, Sheriff McDermott he's down in Plymouth County,
Speaker 2: and Sheriff Bowler. We are going to talk to them
Speaker 2: about their decisions to cooperate with ICE. That is an
Speaker 2: interesting topic. As we watched this whole question of immigration
Speaker 2: deportation to inspire. We haven't touched it much, but we
Speaker 2: will touch that tomorrow night. At least that is our
Speaker 2: intention at this point, as sheriff's both now in New
Speaker 2: Hampshire and Massachusetts, have decided to change their relationship with
Speaker 2: immigration and customs in force. Let's finish Strong, going to
Speaker 2: go to Eddie in reading Eddie, appreciate you. Call you
Speaker 2: next night side.
Speaker 4: Dan just came back from just came back from the
Speaker 4: villages in Florida. Who And it's an interesting, interesting place. Okay,
Speaker 4: tell me why.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you why because I know that we have
Speaker 2: listeners down in the villages. Were you down there visiting
Speaker 2: or were you spending the week?
Speaker 4: No, I spent some time there. And the bicycle groups
Speaker 4: down there, they're riding groups like fifteen to twenty okay,
Speaker 4: like a pack, a real pack.
Speaker 7: You're right, And now they'll go by you.
Speaker 4: And down there in particularly there's a lot of round
Speaker 4: the bus so they have to stop. Okay, they just
Speaker 4: can't go because the dangerous place to drive because everybody's
Speaker 4: thirty five or rady and that doesn't work.
Speaker 2: So well, okay, ask you how old is the How
Speaker 2: old is the bicyclists? Are they of retired?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: There, well they were, Well they're well, they're all they're
Speaker 4: all you know, Lance Armstrong want to be.
Speaker 2: But so there people, I'm sorry to hear.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're all dressed, Yeah, they're all dressed. Up, I
Speaker 4: be going to the prompt. It's like it's like, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, who's riding with who, who's cutting This particular day,
Speaker 4: I'm coming out of my street and there's a fellow
Speaker 4: in front of me, and he's riding along, and all
Speaker 4: of a sudden they see a group called by fifteen
Speaker 4: or twenty, and a couple of them are riding side
Speaker 4: by side. For some reason, I'm not sure if they
Speaker 4: have a thing where they give a signal and somebody
Speaker 4: takes off on the back and goes up to the front,
Speaker 4: you know, some kind some kind of procedure they use one. Anyway,
Speaker 4: this guy's going.
Speaker 2: It's kind of it's kind of like a Patriots calling
Speaker 2: a play in a huddle, you know, said they they're gonna,
Speaker 2: you know, a play action, you know whatever. The half
Speaker 2: backs out. Yeah, okay, good enough, like a.
Speaker 4: Race of the fruitcake because of what it is.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
Speaker 4: So they come to this round or everything roundabout selling
Speaker 4: there just to everybody alive. So they stopped a round about.
Speaker 4: This guy stopped in front of him. Well, all of
Speaker 4: a sudden, the lead guy in the bicycle group, I
Speaker 4: can see him kick this guy's car. Okay, So again,
Speaker 4: you don't want to be a witness of anything today.
Speaker 4: Listen to somebody coming in your house anyway. The guy
Speaker 4: gets in his car, he cuts, you know, cuts in
Speaker 4: front of the bicycle. Listen again, it's ten or fifteen
Speaker 4: of this. So he gets out and walks around his
Speaker 4: car and I can see him. Job char The guy
Speaker 4: kicks his car again. Okay, boy, Well, now the guy
Speaker 4: who's on foot, he whacks him. He goes over. He's hot,
Speaker 4: he's out cold on the grass. Jesus. So now you
Speaker 4: got to everybody else off their bikes and all commer
Speaker 4: game might have got there. Gang fight.
Speaker 2: Villagers.
Speaker 4: Okay, a gang fight, I says, I said. I'm saying
Speaker 4: to myself, well, I don't know if I want to
Speaker 4: see this at all. But they happen to have these
Speaker 4: guys to go around checking on your house. And he
Speaker 4: happen to come along, and he's like he's sixty five
Speaker 4: or seventy. So he gets out, the fires down, the
Speaker 4: situation down, and of course they're all around the guy.
Speaker 4: Now who whacked the other guy? And so finally I'm
Speaker 4: not sure what he said, but they wait. The gun
Speaker 4: get to go off the ground and he's Woody, he's
Speaker 4: not right his bike again for a while. They throw
Speaker 4: the bike in the guy's car and here they all
Speaker 4: continue on. But now they get you said, they get
Speaker 4: the motors on the bikes. As I'll tell you what,
Speaker 4: you hit the pavement going forty miles an hour, you'll know.
Speaker 7: It, you know.
Speaker 6: So they're on.
Speaker 2: So these these folks are on motorized bikes, not just
Speaker 2: regular bikes.
Speaker 5: Some a.
Speaker 4: The ones who all the um they cheat.
Speaker 2: Oh right, I get it, yeah, right right, Age as
Speaker 2: his priority, Eddie, I love the story. Huh. I've heard
Speaker 2: a lot about the villagers. Have never been there, but
Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of people from New England
Speaker 2: who were down there. And I'm sorry to hear that
Speaker 2: that that bikes are causing such a problem in the villages.
Speaker 4: Oh well, hey, people, you know, people get killed down
Speaker 4: here just they do in.
Speaker 2: Bar them well, driving habits with them, I guess. And
Speaker 2: I got to get Tim in Michigan in Hey. Thank
Speaker 2: you for calling. It was very entertaining call. Please call again.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, one of the best calls of
Speaker 2: the night. Thanks, good night, Tim and Michigan. Timm, you're
Speaker 2: going to wrap the hour for us. Go ahead, Tim YEP.
Speaker 7: One of the things I'll tell you going up front
Speaker 7: is I'm a hardcore, uh you know, semi retired racing
Speaker 7: cyclist for like the last sixty years. I have a
Speaker 7: pretty good idea of what this is all about. What
Speaker 7: you have is you have people on bicycles who have
Speaker 7: not a clue that they should be observing the road
Speaker 7: more than two inches off the front of their front wheel,
Speaker 7: and everything seems to pop up magically right in front
Speaker 7: of them, doesn't You didn't even see it? Yeah, you
Speaker 7: know somebody who somebody who has a little bit of
Speaker 7: experience that doesn't occur because you're looking well up the road,
Speaker 7: you're scanning left to right, you're listening with your ears
Speaker 7: to listen for vehicles that are going to overtake you.
Speaker 7: That's that's the trademark of an experienced cyclist. Unfortunately, there's
Speaker 7: a whole bunch of inexperienced cyclists.
Speaker 2: Look. When I was younger, I used to run a
Speaker 2: lot in Sherborne, which is if you know Massachusetts, it's
Speaker 2: a nice area and I was always aware of I
Speaker 2: always ran, I tried to run with the traffic, but
Speaker 2: I was always cognizant of what was coming up behind me,
Speaker 2: and you almost can develop a sixth sense if somebody
Speaker 2: was coming too fast. Uh, And you always had to
Speaker 2: have an escape plan. You know, where am I going
Speaker 2: to go to?
Speaker 7: In Michigan, you'd have to run against the traffic.
Speaker 2: And that makes me, that makes and that makes a
Speaker 2: lot of sense. But uh, they were, they were. There
Speaker 2: were certain roads where it was easy to run against it,
Speaker 2: and some roads were easy to run run with.
Speaker 7: You got to use your own chosen discretion.
Speaker 2: You got it, You got it.
Speaker 6: The one thing that has coming up, I think it's
Speaker 6: how much we got here?
Speaker 2: Rob?
Speaker 6: How much?
Speaker 2: Please? Thirty seconds? Okay. I hate to do this to you, Tim,
Speaker 2: but I'm flat out. So we'll talk again maybe later
Speaker 2: in the week. Okay, I'm with you. Thanks Tim, appreciate
Speaker 2: the call. I'm sorry, ran out of time. All dogs,
Speaker 2: all cats, all pets go to heaven. That's my pal
Speaker 2: Charlie Rays who passed, who fifteen years ago in February.
Speaker 2: That's all your pets are who had passed. They loved you,
Speaker 2: You love them. I do believe you'll see them again.
Speaker 2: See again on Night's side. Tomorrow night, I'll be on
Speaker 2: Facebook Night's O with Dan Ray in a couple of minutes.
Speaker 2: We'll see you there as well. Thank you everybody, have
Speaker 2: a great Tuesday.