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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the two seventeen Recovery Broadcast.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't make mistakes, you won't learn.

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<v Speaker 1>With your host Corey Winfield, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know how you know fish as bad as you can't

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<v Speaker 3>put it on pizza and special guest Justin Burke.

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<v Speaker 2>I said something about that to our master radio broadcaster

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<v Speaker 2>and he said that he didn't hear nothing. Got your ass.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the thirteenth of December twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up.

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<v Speaker 3>My name is Cory Winfield from Justin Burke. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen Recovery Podcast. Ben a minute, we backed out? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>got the Recovery Stories Message of Hope, Part four videos done.

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<v Speaker 3>They're up at two seventeen recovery dot com and on

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<v Speaker 3>our YouTube channel.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah yeah, Now you compressed them all into one video.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, no a movie like we did.

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<v Speaker 3>With No One, which I might look at that again,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think Amazon changed ourselfs because Amazon, because we've

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<v Speaker 3>all seen some crap on Amazon.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 3>Son't paid to make that right, And I tried to

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<v Speaker 3>do that with the Recovery Stories. One did all the editing,

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<v Speaker 3>all the stuff, spent so much time on it, and

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<v Speaker 3>then they had to get it all in the right format,

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<v Speaker 3>right size, all this stuff, and they're like, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 3>can't do that what the learners.

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<v Speaker 2>Why I asked is because sometimes our friends across the

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<v Speaker 2>street likes to show part one right as because it's

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<v Speaker 2>all put together in one show and they don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to do multiple clicks. Mm hmmmmmmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I might do that because back to my story

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<v Speaker 3>here is if you had something that has multiple parts

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<v Speaker 3>to it, like part one, part two, part three, part four, whatever, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>then I believe at one point in time you could

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<v Speaker 3>have done that. But I think they changed it to

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<v Speaker 3>where like you can't do that anymore because people were

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<v Speaker 3>putting so much garbage on there. But I could still

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<v Speaker 3>put it together. It's all one thing I'm lacking, Like

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<v Speaker 3>it's bad.

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<v Speaker 1>This hard work. I got a roof this house.

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<v Speaker 3>And from over here and over there and then back

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<v Speaker 3>to over here.

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<v Speaker 1>So heavy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I'll look into that, but it's right now though.

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<v Speaker 3>They are just separate parts.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>There's Kim, there's me, Russ Jesse telling the story, and

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<v Speaker 3>then Marnie and Chris Goss who used to be on

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<v Speaker 3>two seventeen Recovery podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>His story was amazing, like truly amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>He gave a good message of hope. And I liked

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<v Speaker 3>what Chris said about smoking weed. And I remember back

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<v Speaker 3>in the day, man, and it was actually when Chris

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<v Speaker 3>moved into the Silver Living House I was managing and

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<v Speaker 3>he became a member of two seventeen Recovery podcast. And

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<v Speaker 3>before he he moved in though, well, let me backtrack

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<v Speaker 3>it all. When we were in treatment together, we were

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<v Speaker 3>the bus home. I remember him saying, I'm still gonna

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<v Speaker 3>smoke weed, man. I said, all right, man, well, and

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<v Speaker 3>it didn't worry for me. It always led me back

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<v Speaker 3>to something harder. You know a lot of people like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just weed, man, it's the problem. It's just weed.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the buzz you're looking.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my alcohol brain was like, I want alcohol, Screw

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<v Speaker 3>this weed. And all the other people I've talked to

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<v Speaker 3>that had other substance choices would kind of say the

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<v Speaker 3>same thing, but that they went back to just weed,

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<v Speaker 3>and it never was just weed that always led them

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<v Speaker 3>back to something. Well, alcohol is never my problem, then

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<v Speaker 3>I'll just smoke weed and drink. Okay, Well, let's break

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<v Speaker 3>down the addiction part. Let's break down the trauma that

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<v Speaker 3>you're covering up. Let's let's start there. Because you're covering

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<v Speaker 3>up something with a substance. That's the problem. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>oh this or that or I've never had a problem

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<v Speaker 3>with that. Well guess what. Welcome Welcome to alcoholism then,

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<v Speaker 3>because that's the road you're going down, and that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>a slippertty slope.

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<v Speaker 1>So Chris tells me though, I'm just gonna smoke weed.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, all right, well, be careful man, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and do what you need to do. I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 3>to tell people what to do what not to do.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying what for me. It didn't work. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe like three weeks later, I get a message, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's like, hey, man, can you I need some

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<v Speaker 3>help because I'm doing other stuff now. And I'm like okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And he ended up going back to treatment, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think he left, and then I started worrying on the

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<v Speaker 3>treatment center and he's like, look, man, like I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna say I'm never gonna smoke weed again,

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<v Speaker 3>because I probably will, but while I'm living in sober living,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to so okay. So Chris came in

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<v Speaker 3>and he was on fire Man. He was doing really

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<v Speaker 3>good for a while, and then that house just became

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<v Speaker 3>a shit show after I left, and it was just bad,

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<v Speaker 3>bad for everybody's recovery. And that's the problem sometimes when

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<v Speaker 3>people I'm going to start a sober living house, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna make so much money, that's okay. First of all,

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<v Speaker 3>if that's what you're thinking, you're wrong. And second, that's

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<v Speaker 3>not the train of thought there, Like you need to

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<v Speaker 3>be thinking like how can we help people?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, as you speak of, that house just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>fell apart, though there was more to that story of

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<v Speaker 2>it just falling apart, because even though you may be sober,

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<v Speaker 2>your mind's maybe not there yet, even though you're not

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<v Speaker 2>using substances, because in your case was you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't allow certain guys to do certain things on premises,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like other people did so because they were

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<v Speaker 2>filled by greed and selfishness.

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<v Speaker 3>By accepting, we don't have to beat around the bush,

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<v Speaker 3>we can tell the story.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've told them before. No.

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<v Speaker 3>I was managed in the Sober Living House with Ryan Peckman,

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<v Speaker 3>who was once on the podcast, and things were going

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<v Speaker 3>good at first Man, things are going real. What's the

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<v Speaker 3>wor I'm looking for optimistic things are optimistic, yeah, for

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<v Speaker 3>for kind of everybody in the house. And it started

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<v Speaker 3>to not be and some red flags started happening with me.

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<v Speaker 3>Because MAR It'schian Michigan and Association of Recovery Residences. They

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<v Speaker 3>will go around and they will go through these houses.

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<v Speaker 3>And then if you get certified with MAR, then you

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<v Speaker 3>can take money from organizations that get Medicaid money. So

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<v Speaker 3>if someone's coming into your house, the Medicaid will pay

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<v Speaker 3>for them to live there ninety days. But they want

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure that the bathroom's working, that the stove's working.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I stay at a place in around rapids man,

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<v Speaker 3>like the tub was falling through the floor in the

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<v Speaker 3>bathroom like it was. It was a horrible place, and

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<v Speaker 3>that is not good for my recovery. It was not

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<v Speaker 3>good for my recover.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm that I've never been in one of those harms.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to some hell holes. So just oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go to Silver Living.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, it is very important what MAR does for

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<v Speaker 3>recovering residences and for Silver Living home side. Now, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not saying that everybody that's certified with MARS up on

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<v Speaker 3>the I don't know that, and I can't tell you

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<v Speaker 3>that just because they're not that they're a bad place.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that.

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<v Speaker 3>But there are checks and balances with mar yep, so

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<v Speaker 3>there is some of that. And I kept saying, why

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<v Speaker 3>can't we do that, We can't we do this? Well

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<v Speaker 3>to do that own the house apparently had some felonies,

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<v Speaker 3>and then like with Ryan's passed, he there's no way

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<v Speaker 3>that mar would have certified them with those two in

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<v Speaker 3>their past.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know it at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>It was later I found that out, but I kept saying,

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<v Speaker 3>once you get certified with Marrow, Oh, I'm trying, I'm trying. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he wasn't trying. He wasn't trying at all because he

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<v Speaker 3>knew he couldn't, or at least he found out at

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<v Speaker 3>one point he couldn't, and he wasn't making the money

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, but if you a mortgage on the house,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you gotta pay that the taxes, cleaning supplies,

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<v Speaker 2>basic toletres like the paper products, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he was doing it more for a A

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<v Speaker 3>he thought he could make some money on it, and

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<v Speaker 3>b he wanted that stature, his friends or was friends whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really know. With Jason to back, who owns

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<v Speaker 3>the sort of living home that I lived at for

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<v Speaker 3>I think six months or three before, I don't remember,

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<v Speaker 3>looking up to Jason. I think he wanted that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that pillar of the community.

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<v Speaker 3>Be like, oh no, really, I don't think he wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to be the pillar of the community. He just wanted

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<v Speaker 3>people to look up to him. Yeah, you know, there

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<v Speaker 3>are some issues I think with that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, Yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 3>We come home one day from the store and Tyrone

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<v Speaker 3>would always go check this bike out because when people leave,

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<v Speaker 3>I think he gave him like two weeks or something,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe a month to come back and get your stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Otherwise it was fair game. And Tyrone kept checking on

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<v Speaker 3>the bike. So he goes back in this back room

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<v Speaker 3>where the bike was, and he noticed that there's a

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<v Speaker 3>sleeping bag on the floor, and oh, oh, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>At first I thought, oh, was somebody is living in here.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody snug snuck back in and they're living here. And

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<v Speaker 3>so I went to lock the garage and this dude,

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<v Speaker 3>it was Thomas or Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>He went by some fake ass name, but he comes

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<v Speaker 3>running out. He's like, yo, what are you doing? And

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I'm locking the garage. Man, No, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>don't do that. I'm bringing my girl over.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like what.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, come on man, Ryan said it was cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I already gave him some money. How much you need?

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<v Speaker 3>Pulls out his wallet and starts trying to pay me

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<v Speaker 3>in my I said, put your money away. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, I'm going to leave this draw unlocked.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know the house rules, you know, like you're

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<v Speaker 3>not to have women trying to trying to bone some

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<v Speaker 3>chicken the garage.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, come on, bro.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah and Sol were living like suchra relations inside this

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<v Speaker 2>sober living in property if not allowed.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it was that dude was trash, and so I

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<v Speaker 3>went to Ryan and I went right to Ryan.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, dude, what are you doing? He's like what.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, homeboy just came and tried to give

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<v Speaker 3>me money and said he gave you money and said

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<v Speaker 3>you could bone his girlfriend in the garage.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Chris gets blue jumps in the porking rude.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, we're not talking about Chris and what

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<v Speaker 3>are you doing at four in the morning and watching

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<v Speaker 3>Chris in the car getting the you know whatever. I

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<v Speaker 3>This is not what we're about, you know. We're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to show these guys how to live a better life.

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<v Speaker 3>And I would bring Marnie over and because you could

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<v Speaker 3>have women over there, you know, we just doing y'all

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<v Speaker 3>But I was showing them like, look, we can make

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<v Speaker 3>was trying to lead by example to show them, Look,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not, you know, like, yeah, that healthy recovery environment.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if you were trying to rub on her booty,

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<v Speaker 2>a hotel room. And there's a couple of motel room

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<v Speaker 3>and being a year sober. I was just figuring it

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, all that went.

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<v Speaker 3>House or the Misstep House or something something funny. I

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<v Speaker 3>back and was like, all right, guys, I'm selling the house.

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<v Speaker 3>You got thirty days to get out. And that's I

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<v Speaker 3>think it was just too much for a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>And you know that sucks that Chris had to go

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody was having fun.

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<v Speaker 3>We were making fun videos that were we were doing

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<v Speaker 3>really good things in recovery, and you know, I just

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<v Speaker 3>it is what it is, but that can really trip

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<v Speaker 3>somebody up. But Chris's story, you know, he had a

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<v Speaker 3>couple more slip ups, and I always just keep telling him, man,

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<v Speaker 3>And now again when you watch the video and hear

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<v Speaker 3>he will, he'll tell you that he can't smoke weed,

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<v Speaker 3>he can't, he can't do anything. You know, everything he

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<v Speaker 3>tries always leads him back to that. And the life

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<v Speaker 3>he's living now is great now as he got a

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<v Speaker 3>boat and live in a mansion, not that I know of,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's not That's not what life's about. And when

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<v Speaker 3>the things you do have. You know, awesome, you got

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<v Speaker 3>milk in the fridge, Oh my god, that's great. And

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<v Speaker 2>Ship look out, let's have a part.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, that's just a little thing sometimes, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and then before you know it, God will blush.

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<v Speaker 1>You with those other things.

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<v Speaker 3>And just when you think, oh, life's not going my way,

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<v Speaker 3>well keep going, you know, and hell that the hell

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<v Speaker 3>that we've been through and that I had to live

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<v Speaker 3>through and I've heard it said so many times and

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of cliche, but my worst day sober is

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<v Speaker 3>better than my best day he drinking, you know, or using,

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<v Speaker 3>because there wasn't very many good days when I was

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<v Speaker 3>an active addiction.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, the.

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<v Speaker 3>The worst day sober is still way way better. And

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<v Speaker 3>we all have problems, we go through things. I was

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<v Speaker 3>talking to my therapist about it just yesterday. I think,

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<v Speaker 3>I know, two days ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it was Wednesday, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was kind of going over with her because

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<v Speaker 3>I have some issues with you know, who I want

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<v Speaker 3>or who I let watch my son, and I really

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<v Speaker 3>don't want any by watching my son.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be there for him. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>do it.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I was watching him in his crib the

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<v Speaker 3>other night, I put him in his crib, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so we could play and he doesn't really hang out

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<v Speaker 3>in his crib at all, and he thought that was awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was just sitting there, like just looking over

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<v Speaker 3>the side, thinking he's never going to be this small again.

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<v Speaker 3>Like tomorrow morning when he wakes up, he's gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit bigger than he is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>When I get home today, he's going to be bigger

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<v Speaker 3>than he was when I let you know, like he

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<v Speaker 3>he's growing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a little baby.

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<v Speaker 2>And they don't stop growing, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so why would I want to?

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<v Speaker 3>I enjoy this and I had to watch him and

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<v Speaker 3>that's when it was. On Tuesday, we had the movie

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<v Speaker 3>that we showed here at the Alluvian and great movie, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Tipping the Pain Scale. If you haven't seen that, find

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<v Speaker 3>out how and watch it. It is really really good.

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<v Speaker 3>But we had a premiere here and it came out

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<v Speaker 3>like a year ago, but still we showed it here

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<v Speaker 3>in Traverse City and it's a very interesting and good movie.

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<v Speaker 3>But I couldn't make it there because someone had to

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<v Speaker 3>stay home with our son because the movie started at

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<v Speaker 3>seven and get over to like nine. There was a

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<v Speaker 3>panel discussion, so it was it was quite the night.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like, well, I'm gonna stay on with

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<v Speaker 3>Parker because I took a likable scale around the office

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<v Speaker 3>and I told Everyboddy you know, like who do you

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<v Speaker 3>like better? And they all said, oh, Marnie's like a

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<v Speaker 3>twelve and a one to ten, and I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>well I'm a two, so I think she should go,

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<v Speaker 3>especially Monster time. Yeah, but Marnie is likable and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to be there for everything, and it's like this,

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't that show the trust I have for the people

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<v Speaker 3>that are into seventeen recovery that you guys can go

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<v Speaker 3>to an event without me? And then yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>you don't remember at a time where I've been like.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, got to be me and you actually texted

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<v Speaker 2>me one thing. You're like, can we please move the

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<v Speaker 2>business cards? Yeah, and I simply moved him. I may

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<v Speaker 2>have placed him there. I don't remember who placed them there.

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<v Speaker 2>But as soon as I was like, yep, sure I

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<v Speaker 2>get what you're saying, yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Because yeah, that's just I'm not going to get into

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<v Speaker 3>that right now, but yeah, because I saw something. But still,

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<v Speaker 3>but there was a time where I would have been like, Nope,

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<v Speaker 3>I have to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to bring him.

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<v Speaker 3>But we know he doesn't wan how to come to

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<v Speaker 3>that event. He's a little baby and gets tired, like

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't want to have a babysitter there, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like I can.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch him, it's fine, yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm trying to work through that with my therapists

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff, and you know, because Marnie believes that we

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<v Speaker 3>should leave him with people so times and it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>do we really need to?

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, there's.

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<v Speaker 3>Different things I can weigh into the consideration of oh,

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<v Speaker 3>do we need a babysitter or can we or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, well, how bad do I have to be

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<v Speaker 3>there at that thing? I don't think I had to

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<v Speaker 3>be there at all. No, So why wouldn't I watch

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<v Speaker 3>my son, you know, just so I can go do

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<v Speaker 3>some of this stuff or do that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Because, like you said, you'll never get those moments back.

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<v Speaker 2>And every day he does something new and you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>I miss that, Like how did I let myself miss that?

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<v Speaker 2>How did I let miss watching him crawl for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time, you know, yesterday, like actually crawling hands, knees

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<v Speaker 2>all over the floor.

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<v Speaker 3>Now he's not doing it like evil crazy evil double

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<v Speaker 3>baby that you see in movies or not like oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but he's he likes to put his booty

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<v Speaker 3>in the air and kind of he's not really on

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<v Speaker 3>his well, sometimes he's on his knees and sometimes he's

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<v Speaker 3>just on his toes his hands.

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<v Speaker 2>He's getting it down a lot better than the army

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<v Speaker 2>crawl that he was doing last week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so he's ready to go because he called from

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<v Speaker 3>the chair to the kitchen. It's like, whoa time, get

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<v Speaker 3>baby gates. Oh we got him there in the basement

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<v Speaker 3>and dust them off. Yeah, because in another week he's

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I predicted Friday before Christmas. I think Miss

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<v Speaker 1>And I said Sunday and that was last week.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, by Sunday he'll be doing it. Not

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<v Speaker 3>too far off. But yeah, so it's those moments, man,

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<v Speaker 3>and I want to be there for him.

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<v Speaker 2>So you got to because I mean, if you're not there,

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<v Speaker 2>you feel those resentments towards yourself. Yeah, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>why wasn't I here? Why did I make the time?

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<v Speaker 2>And like I catch myself doing that quite a bit lately,

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<v Speaker 2>and just over things that I just wasn't around to

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<v Speaker 2>show my daughter growing up, because being in and out

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<v Speaker 2>of her life, like and then only being there on

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<v Speaker 2>the weekends. You know, it was well, let's go have fun.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, it wasn't much of a learning process.

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<v Speaker 2>but for the most part, it was like, well, let's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and not worry about working or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And now I'm realizing that I have her

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like I'm really hard on myself about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like I gotta show a fourteen year old

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<v Speaker 2>how to shovel snow because she didn't know how. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, wow, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, you don't know what you don't know, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, probably just shake your head. I'm like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>Like I wanted to yell at her first, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>how can I yell at her when I never showed

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<v Speaker 2>her how to do something?

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<v Speaker 3>I yell at you? But yeah, you know, we're not

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<v Speaker 3>in that. And it's just it's amazing that being a

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<v Speaker 3>I would be. And sometimes I think I need to

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<v Speaker 3>go back and listen to the podcast from earlier, early

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<v Speaker 3>days and you know, wanting the stuff that I have

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty cool, but it's a lot of work, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, being married or anniversary was yesterday, and you know,

426
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<v Speaker 3>it's four years. I'm like, oh my god, it four years,

427
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<v Speaker 3>Like that's it seems like just yesterday.

428
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I was in Sober Loving and I was like, oh,

429
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<v Speaker 2>I get I'm invited, right, And because we just kind

430
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<v Speaker 2>of like started our new friendship after outside of treatment,

431
00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:48.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, and it's like you're like, no COVID, no

432
00:19:48.839 --> 00:19:53.240
<v Speaker 2>one's coming. I'm like, oh okay, and I'm like that's

433
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<v Speaker 2>kind of weird whatever, but but you did take a

434
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<v Speaker 2>really nice video and it is out there, but you know,

435
00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:03.160
<v Speaker 2>it was kind of cool how you did do it though, you.

436
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<v Speaker 3>Know, and if you want to see the video, I

437
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<v Speaker 3>want to say, it's on YouTube, but it's also two

438
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<v Speaker 3>seventeen recovery dot com slash wedding something like that.

439
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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the page for that.

440
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<v Speaker 3>But it's you know, it's it's amazing to be here

441
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<v Speaker 3>and to be where I'm at and to watch you

442
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<v Speaker 3>guys start doing what you're doing, and you know, to

443
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<v Speaker 3>actually employ people who are in recovery to do recovery things.

444
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<v Speaker 3>And is it stressful sometimes?

445
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<v Speaker 1>Sure?

446
00:20:31.000 --> 00:20:34.240
<v Speaker 3>You know, every every job is, every life is stressful. Sometimes,

447
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<v Speaker 3>you know, whether you're dealing with your mother in law,

448
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<v Speaker 3>or your mother, your stepdad or your step mom, or

449
00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:46.759
<v Speaker 3>your dad, or your brother, your sister. It's always something, man,

450
00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:49.559
<v Speaker 3>and you got to do your best decide step the

451
00:20:49.559 --> 00:20:52.640
<v Speaker 3>stuff that's not your problem, and sometimes you just step

452
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<v Speaker 3>right in in any way and then you're just like great.

453
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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's part of the reason why I choose to

454
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<v Speaker 2>live by myself and so that I don't have to

455
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<v Speaker 2>be subjectified by anybody at all. Well, if they called me,

456
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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I can choose not to answer my phone.

457
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<v Speaker 2>You know, I know none my family's gonna drive up

458
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<v Speaker 2>here at the drop of a hat to beat on

459
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<v Speaker 2>my door. You can't. You won't believe what your brother

460
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<v Speaker 2>did today. You drove two hours up here to tell

461
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<v Speaker 2>me what my brother did. Know, it just ain't gonna happen,

462
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<v Speaker 2>you know. It's just I'm thankful for that. You know.

463
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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like you you know, you moved all

464
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<v Speaker 2>the way up here from southwest Michigan. It's kind of

465
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<v Speaker 2>a good feeling, though, isn't it. Because someone just can't

466
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<v Speaker 2>hop in the car. Why you answering your phone?

467
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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they do every month, But that's fine.

468
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<v Speaker 2>You know, at least you're not getting the wellness checks anymore.

469
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I don't know how that would play out. No,

470
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<v Speaker 3>it would be weird, that would be. But now that is,

471
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<v Speaker 3>and you know, there's there's issues that you know, I

472
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<v Speaker 3>saw have to work on with myself and do the

473
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<v Speaker 3>best I can. But you know there's resentment things whether

474
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<v Speaker 3>I am passive on something and I'm like okay, and

475
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<v Speaker 3>then I regret it later, like man, I really should

476
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<v Speaker 3>have put my foot down, you know. We really needed

477
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<v Speaker 3>to be there for that, or I needed to be

478
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<v Speaker 3>there for that, but instead I was like okay. And

479
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<v Speaker 3>then if you really want to write down like what's

480
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<v Speaker 3>more important in it, and it's like, well, I don't know,

481
00:22:24.400 --> 00:22:25.799
<v Speaker 3>is it any of it really important?

482
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<v Speaker 2>You know?

483
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<v Speaker 3>And that might seem weird to say that, but if

484
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<v Speaker 3>you look at a situation where if it's something that's

485
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<v Speaker 3>going to make me happy and I need to do

486
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<v Speaker 3>this for my soul, okay, well maybe that doesn't benefit

487
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<v Speaker 3>the family immediately or directly, but it puts me in

488
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<v Speaker 3>a better headspace which will ultimately affect the family better.

489
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<v Speaker 1>So and that's a two way street.

490
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<v Speaker 3>You know. I have to you know, take my wife's

491
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<v Speaker 3>stuff into consideration too. You know, if there's something that

492
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<v Speaker 3>she wants to do. Is that something that's going to

493
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<v Speaker 3>benefit the family immediately? No, will put her in a

494
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<v Speaker 3>better headspace? Yeah?

495
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<v Speaker 1>Or does she think it'll put her in ahead of

496
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<v Speaker 1>a better headspace than that? It doesn't.

497
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<v Speaker 3>And then you're like, oh, that was a waste. But

498
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<v Speaker 3>then you have to grill yourself back in and be like,

499
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<v Speaker 3>well it's not should I could have would a time,

500
00:23:13.759 --> 00:23:17.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, like it is what it is, and but

501
00:23:17.559 --> 00:23:20.880
<v Speaker 3>it's it's a it's a process, man, and it's it's life.

502
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<v Speaker 3>And that's the beautiful thing is I have a choice today,

503
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<v Speaker 3>Because before I didn't it, I would just get drunk

504
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<v Speaker 3>over it, get drunk over it, say stuff that I

505
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<v Speaker 3>couldn't take back, do things that couldn't take back. And

506
00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:35.599
<v Speaker 3>at least today I can sit back and think about it,

507
00:23:35.640 --> 00:23:38.599
<v Speaker 3>and if I do say something or mess up, I

508
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<v Speaker 3>can always at least replay the tape in my head

509
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<v Speaker 3>to go, you know, maybe next time, let's let's not

510
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<v Speaker 3>do that. You know, how would you if the shoe

511
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<v Speaker 3>was on the other foot, That's all I'm always trying

512
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<v Speaker 3>to kind of do that, like put yourself in their

513
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<v Speaker 3>shoes and then look at it again, you know, and

514
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<v Speaker 3>if you can start doing that, and it's progress, not

515
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<v Speaker 3>perfection going to get it right every time, But if

516
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<v Speaker 3>I can next time handle the situation in a different

517
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<v Speaker 3>way where I didn't like the how I handled it

518
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<v Speaker 3>the first time, you know, and it's like, okay, well

519
00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:12.079
<v Speaker 3>I still didn't handle it perfect, but I did handle

520
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<v Speaker 3>it better than the second time. What can I do next?

521
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<v Speaker 1>You know? What?

522
00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:18.359
<v Speaker 3>What should I have done? Or what how? How would

523
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<v Speaker 3>I have liked the outcome to be, you know, and

524
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<v Speaker 3>taking someone else's feelings and thoughts and to consideration and

525
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<v Speaker 3>like I said, you know, put yourself in their shoes

526
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<v Speaker 3>for once.

527
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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I've really had to learn how to do

528
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<v Speaker 2>that lately too with my daughter, because like, she was

529
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<v Speaker 2>never given the opportunity of choice until she came to

530
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<v Speaker 2>live with me full time. And it's like, well, what

531
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<v Speaker 2>do you want to do this weekend?

532
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<v Speaker 1>Kid?

533
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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know, dad, what whatever you want to do?

534
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<v Speaker 2>Because I know you're just not going to not do nothing? Well, no,

535
00:24:53.519 --> 00:24:55.559
<v Speaker 2>what do you want to go do? You know? And

536
00:24:55.839 --> 00:24:59.200
<v Speaker 2>it's still a constant fight, you know, of because she

537
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<v Speaker 2>never had choice. She was raised so so sheltered with

538
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<v Speaker 2>her mom and her mom's mom. You know, it was like,

539
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<v Speaker 2>how are you fourteen years old and you don't know

540
00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:12.160
<v Speaker 2>what you want to do? It's Saturday, you know, Like

541
00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:14.400
<v Speaker 2>you want to go swimming, you wanna go hiking? Like

542
00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:17.160
<v Speaker 2>what do you want? Whatever you want to do, Dad,

543
00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:19.160
<v Speaker 2>I just want to be with you and whatever makes

544
00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:22.400
<v Speaker 2>you happy. Well, it's not always about making someone else happy.

545
00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:25.440
<v Speaker 2>It's also about what do you want to do? And

546
00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:29.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, and you're allowed to have your own say

547
00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:32.559
<v Speaker 2>so in life, you know, and because some of us

548
00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:37.240
<v Speaker 2>do kind of still have that mindset, like we talked earlier,

549
00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:41.480
<v Speaker 2>well how can I manipulate this to benefit me? You know,

550
00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:44.880
<v Speaker 2>and it's like we have to learn how to not

551
00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:46.799
<v Speaker 2>do that. You know, if she want to go to

552
00:25:46.839 --> 00:25:48.559
<v Speaker 2>a pumpkin patch, I would have took her. You know.

553
00:25:49.039 --> 00:25:51.160
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like that little goofy video I sent

554
00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:55.640
<v Speaker 2>you this fall of dad and mom taking kid out

555
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<v Speaker 2>to the apple farm picking apples and he's like, well,

556
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<v Speaker 2>this is a complete waste, funny just for these apples

557
00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:04.279
<v Speaker 2>to get left on my How much was that bag

558
00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:07.759
<v Speaker 2>of apples, by the way, fifty dollars to ride on

559
00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:10.519
<v Speaker 2>my counter? Yeah, Like like you're you're crazy, you know,

560
00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:13.240
<v Speaker 2>but but it's not. But It's not about that. It's

561
00:26:13.240 --> 00:26:17.000
<v Speaker 2>about allowing them to make those choices and try to

562
00:26:17.039 --> 00:26:19.279
<v Speaker 2>be there to guide them and say, well, that probably

563
00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:22.640
<v Speaker 2>isn't the healthiest choice, but how would we do this instead,

564
00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:23.359
<v Speaker 2>which would be.

565
00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:25.279
<v Speaker 1>A healthier choice, and.

566
00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:28.079
<v Speaker 2>Trying to guide her through that, you know, And it's

567
00:26:28.119 --> 00:26:34.400
<v Speaker 2>a learning process because I was raised by a totally

568
00:26:34.440 --> 00:26:36.480
<v Speaker 2>different choice outlook on life.

569
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<v Speaker 3>You know, yeah, not that you have to raise your

570
00:26:39.519 --> 00:26:42.279
<v Speaker 3>daughter saying but then you know, still that's what you

571
00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:45.000
<v Speaker 3>knew and that's how you were shown. And then having

572
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<v Speaker 3>to catch yourself in those moments where you're like, maybe

573
00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:49.400
<v Speaker 3>I didn't handle that better, you know, al right, yeah I.

574
00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Could have handled that.

575
00:26:50.480 --> 00:26:53.240
<v Speaker 3>And like you said about gonna yell at her about

576
00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:55.359
<v Speaker 3>not knowing how to shovel, then you realize, well, how

577
00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:57.079
<v Speaker 3>can I yelled her about not knowing how to shovel

578
00:26:57.079 --> 00:26:58.920
<v Speaker 3>when I haven't shown her how to shovel?

579
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<v Speaker 2>Yep, you know, she was never taught, And so how

580
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:04.039
<v Speaker 2>can you all lot someone when they were never taught?

581
00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:07.839
<v Speaker 2>You know, we're taught on a consistent basis. You know,

582
00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:11.559
<v Speaker 2>maybe I did show her one time, but who's to

583
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:14.559
<v Speaker 2>say how long it was before she was able to

584
00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:16.759
<v Speaker 2>do anything? Because at her mom's house, she didn't have

585
00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:19.880
<v Speaker 2>chores to do. They did everything. We chose not to

586
00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:24.400
<v Speaker 2>do certain things in life, like clean their house. But whatever,

587
00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:27.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, it is what it is, you know. Like

588
00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:29.640
<v Speaker 2>when she came back this last time from her mom's,

589
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:33.359
<v Speaker 2>she was like, Dad, I see what you're talking about

590
00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:37.359
<v Speaker 2>in life, and how appreciative it is when you come

591
00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:40.440
<v Speaker 2>home to a clean house and you can just feel

592
00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:44.839
<v Speaker 2>at ease because everything's somewhat put in its place, Like

593
00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:47.640
<v Speaker 2>my house is still lived in, if that makes any sense,

594
00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:50.480
<v Speaker 2>but everything's got a place, you know, Like we're just

595
00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:53.480
<v Speaker 2>not going to pile everything up on the table beside

596
00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:56.039
<v Speaker 2>the door when we come in because it's catch all. No,

597
00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:58.480
<v Speaker 2>everything's got a place, take care of it, you know.

598
00:27:59.480 --> 00:28:02.160
<v Speaker 2>And it's kind of she was like, you know, I'm

599
00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:06.920
<v Speaker 2>really appreciating this to show me how to live a

600
00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:10.839
<v Speaker 2>decent life and not have everything to catch all. Back

601
00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:13.559
<v Speaker 2>the couch, there's tons of blankets on it or whatever

602
00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:16.160
<v Speaker 2>because something gets wall and that's just where we pile

603
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:17.640
<v Speaker 2>all the living room blankets, you know.

604
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:22.599
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure her wife will appreciate that one or

605
00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:23.759
<v Speaker 1>partner or whatever.

606
00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, her partner, because her husband, you don't know anymore. Obviously,

607
00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:31.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm just glad she's not a furry and trying to

608
00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:32.319
<v Speaker 2>use a letter box.

609
00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Excited with the button.

610
00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:42.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sometimes they assume all black people are from African America.

611
00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh yeah, thanks Ms Smoker.

612
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Adam Stevens.

613
00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:52.599
<v Speaker 2>He celebrated some clean time recently.

614
00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Three years.

615
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:57.160
<v Speaker 3>Congratulations due so prompts to Adam and he came by

616
00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:01.480
<v Speaker 3>their actually got him a coin because I knew Adam

617
00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:04.640
<v Speaker 3>is busy and I knew he wasn't gonna go get

618
00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:07.400
<v Speaker 3>himself a coin, right, So it was like one of

619
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:10.319
<v Speaker 3>those things where it was like, I'm go get Adam

620
00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:11.599
<v Speaker 3>a coin because I know he's not gonna get one,

621
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:14.000
<v Speaker 3>and then I'll give it to him. And he came

622
00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:17.160
<v Speaker 3>by and he wanted to say this dude.

623
00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:23.119
<v Speaker 4>That my son was God Like. They're like, he she

624
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:26.839
<v Speaker 4>shouldn't have happened like it. I don't know how, you

625
00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:27.880
<v Speaker 4>know what I mean, like, but.

626
00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:30.599
<v Speaker 1>It makes sense. That makes perfect sense.

627
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:34.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thanks for coming by to leave that message for

628
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:36.319
<v Speaker 3>everybody listening now.

629
00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:37.319
<v Speaker 1>But Adam did get.

630
00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:39.599
<v Speaker 3>His three years and it was pretty cool to be

631
00:29:39.640 --> 00:29:41.319
<v Speaker 3>able to give him that coin. I was his mentor

632
00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:44.599
<v Speaker 3>last time I went through treatment and took him a

633
00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:50.119
<v Speaker 3>couple more times. Sorry, but nah, he uh, he's turned

634
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<v Speaker 3>it around. And I'm really really proud of Adam. And

635
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<v Speaker 3>you know, he used to work here at two seventeen Recovery.

636
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<v Speaker 3>Now he works for organization that's kind of close to us,

637
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<v Speaker 3>and it's good to see him doing something that he

638
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:04.599
<v Speaker 3>really likes. And he's doing a really good job at

639
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<v Speaker 3>it too.

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<v Speaker 2>He is. I hear a lot of good reviews about Adam. Yeah,

641
00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:13.880
<v Speaker 2>and his job and how he manages things, and he

642
00:30:13.960 --> 00:30:17.599
<v Speaker 2>does just fly off the handle and he's really level headed,

643
00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:21.839
<v Speaker 2>giving keel and like, I don't think I've ever seen

644
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<v Speaker 2>Adam man I have, well, you've known him a lot

645
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<v Speaker 2>longer than me.

646
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to play some uker.

647
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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to play no, Sorry, dude, I just

648
00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:37.000
<v Speaker 3>thought you were just sitting over here by yourself.

649
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I thought you'd kind of join us to play some uker.

650
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<v Speaker 2>But okay, you know, it's funny to talk to my

651
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:45.480
<v Speaker 2>brother last week in jail. He was like, yeah, I'm

652
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.839
<v Speaker 2>sitting in here playing some muker. I'm like, you got

653
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:55.759
<v Speaker 2>enough white people in yourself. What I was like, normally

654
00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:59.920
<v Speaker 2>it's spades, you know, And he was like nope, Uker.

655
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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, his email is justin at two seventeen

656
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<v Speaker 3>recovery dot com. If you want to send him a

657
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:13.839
<v Speaker 3>little email, say say hi. If Adam would have played

658
00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:15.400
<v Speaker 3>your he would have had a good time. But instead,

659
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:17.160
<v Speaker 3>the next day, I'm just going to go right over

660
00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:20.960
<v Speaker 3>your conversation there. And the next day they're like, hey,

661
00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:23.680
<v Speaker 3>you got a person that you got a mentor. I'm

662
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:25.440
<v Speaker 3>like who, They're like that guy. I was like, oh,

663
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:29.240
<v Speaker 3>the dude that yelled at me. I was like, great, great,

664
00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:32.279
<v Speaker 3>that guy seems like a lot of fun. But now

665
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:34.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm getting to know Adam over the years has been

666
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:36.240
<v Speaker 3>great and I'm glad he's doing what he's doing.

667
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>And big cops him. Also said I was going to

668
00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:38.759
<v Speaker 1>give Jim.

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<v Speaker 3>Jim runs a meeting at the two seventeen Recovery Center

670
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<v Speaker 3>Thursdays at three thirty called boot Ability. Yeah, and it's

671
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:50.240
<v Speaker 3>kind of dharma based, and there were three people that

672
00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:51.720
<v Speaker 3>came to his meeting yesterday and.

673
00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:54.079
<v Speaker 1>He was kind of.

674
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<v Speaker 3>Taken back by it, I think, But anyway, I told

675
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<v Speaker 3>them I will give him a shout out.

676
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's actually a good, friendly guy.

677
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:06.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so there's your shout out.

678
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:12.079
<v Speaker 3>Jim she said, Oh, don't mention me, but he's enjoying

679
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:14.839
<v Speaker 3>our videos that we post at to seventeen recovery dot

680
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<v Speaker 3>com for recovery story.

681
00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:16.960
<v Speaker 1>So that's pretty cool.

682
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:20.400
<v Speaker 3>And and thanks to months and two for help and

683
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:23.400
<v Speaker 3>sponsor the media for that. Yeah, you know, the videos

684
00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:26.039
<v Speaker 3>next time are going to look even better. I can't wait,

685
00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:28.720
<v Speaker 3>I know, because like two of the cameras are older,

686
00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:31.960
<v Speaker 3>but then the one camera we already had, so then

687
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:34.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, now to add another camera to that.

688
00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>It'll looks so much. Eight more cameras to go.

689
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:44.960
<v Speaker 3>Just kidding, but no, next recovery stories in February will

690
00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:48.359
<v Speaker 3>look amazing. And do we ask the people yet?

691
00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so.

692
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:51.720
<v Speaker 2>On time we were.

693
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:57.640
<v Speaker 3>To have people suggested, Paul Box said he would be there,

694
00:32:57.680 --> 00:32:59.039
<v Speaker 3>so I'll want to throw his name out there. And

695
00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:01.440
<v Speaker 3>he actually works for some favor of health. He's recovery

696
00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:04.720
<v Speaker 3>coach and runs their recovery coach department. I believe in

697
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:08.640
<v Speaker 3>Jay Burton is the guy we I don't know if

698
00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:09.480
<v Speaker 3>we've asked him.

699
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:11.839
<v Speaker 2>Yet, no, but I think he would be a really

700
00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:12.279
<v Speaker 2>good fit.

701
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:16.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh absolutely would Yeah, I think he'd do great, so,

702
00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:19.799
<v Speaker 3>but I just don't know if he's been axed. Yeah,

703
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:22.319
<v Speaker 3>but that's why I'll throw his name out there as

704
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:24.960
<v Speaker 3>a hostile person that's going to do the messages of hope.

705
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<v Speaker 3>And then I don't know, we'll see about the stories

706
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<v Speaker 3>then who's going to do those? But yeah, February twentieth

707
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<v Speaker 3>is when I'm kind of ballparking that one.

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<v Speaker 2>The twentieth after two seventeen seventeenth.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a Monday, and you know, I got time for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you should have learned from the movie the other day.

711
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<v Speaker 3>We had the movie that we showed. It was on

712
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<v Speaker 3>a Tuesday at seven o'clock. Come on, I mean, it's

713
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:52.039
<v Speaker 3>tough to get people there, you know, but Thursday is

714
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:55.079
<v Speaker 3>a lot easier. And just we've done Thursdays in the past.

715
00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:56.480
<v Speaker 3>Why why rock the boat?

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00:33:57.240 --> 00:33:57.400
<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, you have to get out of here, and so

718
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:00.599
<v Speaker 1>do I.

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<v Speaker 3>So thank you justin for joining me on the podcast today,

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<v Speaker 3>and I hope you have a great weekend the rest

721
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<v Speaker 3>of your day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I hope you have a great weekend too.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening. Let's talk to you next time later.

724
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725
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:18.320
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