Speaker 1: I made a sasion sunny sound. I had a vision.
It's nice. What's a happening? Hot stuff? I missed that
movie it was happening. Well, that would probably be flag.
That would probably be probable.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it would be super probably right now. Yeah,
that was a great movie.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Well how's it going.
Speaker 2: It's going great, It's really going great. I have been
in a really good mood. I'm trying not to be
one of those people that's like things are going great now,
I'm gonna jinx it and everything's gonna be shay. I'm
trying to just enjoy the fact that, like life is good.
And I'll tell you why. All my kids are happy.
They say, you're only as happy as your saddest kid
right now, just to write this minute and again knock
on wood there.
Speaker 3: All my kids are very busy. That's the best, especially
during summer.
Speaker 2: Yes, because summers, I swear to God, literally up until
this summer, my kids have been pretty bored over the
you know, Sadie and Xander have never wanted to.
Speaker 1: Go to like Sleepway camp. No interest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Elbe did not last summer, but the summer before
Elbie had her worst summer because you know, she was.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's right, Twyne Community College. Yes, although wait did
she know?
Speaker 2: Okay, it was this the summer that she had not
gotten in anywhere was a terrible summer. Then the following
summer was a great That was last summer she knew
she was in. So that was a good summer for her.
But for Sadie and Xander, it was like they were
both kind of bored. Right.
Speaker 1: They didn't have jobs and they just really didn't do
that much.
Speaker 2: But now they're getting older, they have but they're driving
big group of friends, they're playing gigs. They're so busy
all the time, you know. And when they're not busy,
it's because they're choosing. It's not because they don't have
anything to do. It's because they're like, oh, I'm taking
a break.
Speaker 3: Yes, I know, it's really nice. I'm enjoying this summer,
having sunny inn Italia home.
Speaker 1: It's been really great. I've been making dinner a lot.
Really what are you making?
Speaker 3: I've ran out of everything, but you know, Soyvey really helps.
It's just a magical so Evey. The tariaki glaze, yeah,
I mean I just put it on boneless chicken thighs, and.
Speaker 1: What do you call them legs? Sorry?
Speaker 3: And I just I marinate them and then I bake
them in the oven and they're done in like thirty minutes,
and they taste so good. It's I gotta make kariaki chicken.
Speaker 1: And then nice fifty degrees three hundred and fifty degrees.
Speaker 3: If they don't have bones at them, okay, but if
they have bones in them, it's longer.
Speaker 1: And the skin. I do both.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I have the bone in the skin, sometimes I don't.
And then I do a stir fry of vegetables, which
is super easy. I did actually red onion. When do
you tell me to do this? Red onion? Mushrooms? And
what was the third one? Oh broccolini chopped it up,
put like a couple pads of butter in it. That's
and then salt and pepper, and once you caramelize all that,
you don't even have to put.
Speaker 1: The soyve thing. That's it.
Speaker 3: It tastes like an Asian infusion vegetable mixture.
Speaker 1: So and then you just.
Speaker 3: Serve that and then I just sles with chicken. With
the chicken, I do the vegetable rice. Sometimes they do
the rice. Sometimes I do like a rice peel off
or something like that they like, or or a garlic
non you know. But Italia doesn't like any car, but
Sonny does and I do, so yeah, and it's easy.
So and tonight it's gonna be even though it's not Tuesday,
it's gonna be taco night because they've been craving tacos,
so I'm gonna make tacos. I don't know, it just
kind of like, you know, a little bit, just kind
of simple stuff, not anything because I don't want to
get all heat in the kitchen and get hot. But
you know, steak, I've made fried up some steak. That's
always kind of hard because it depends on which cut
of steak you get, you know, whether it's the ribbi
or the bonin ribbi. You know what I mean, It's
like it.
Speaker 2: Varies, so m h. I would probably be more like,
what about fish?
Speaker 1: Do you?
Speaker 3: I do like fish? See Italian I like salmon. Sonny
doesn't like it. So that's so hard when one doesn't
like it stuff right, So then he eats leftovers and
then I'll make, you know, salmon for her, and I
haven't done it in a while. Salmon actually, oh, homemade
caesar salad dressing. I got the recipe of that. They
love it.
Speaker 1: Oh it's good. What's in it?
Speaker 3: Red wine, like a scrambled up egg, anchovies, yum? Yeah,
and something else like seven four not so like four
or five ingredients.
Speaker 1: You blend it all up. It's really good.
Speaker 3: The thing is, you can't make a big batch of
it because it's got the egg in it, you know,
and it can go bad pretty quick, right right. Otherwise
I'd love to keep like a whole batch of it.
But anyway, Yeah, maybe you could freeze it. That's what
I was thinking. How does that work? Does it work?
Speaker 2: No? But you know, when I was a kid, my
parents froze so much stuff. There was this constant like
huge tupperwar things frozen. But whenever I try to freeze stuff,
it just gets freezer.
Speaker 1: Burn right away. Yes, right, Am I freezing things wrong?
I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's got the frost or it's in there for
too long, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess keep shit in there for years.
They would be excavating, excavating the freezer all the way
at the bottom there's or we always had that garage freezer,
which a lot of people have, but like.
Speaker 1: At the bottom there. You know my mom.
Speaker 2: From like yeah, yeah, kishe Well, actually like keish you
can freeze, right, and it's got egg in it, so
I guess it would work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well of course you could freeze.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so then maybe I could freeze the caesar salagize.
It's a pain in the not a pain, but it's
nice to like I want to make a batch of
it because they love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like my repertoire is so limited that
all the things that I can make, the kids are.
Speaker 1: Like sick of it. Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3: And it's also hard to please two different like and
you know, she's she you know, doesn't want starch and stuff,
and she wants like sweet potato instead of baked potato,
and Sonny's like, just give me a baked potato.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: But it's easy.
Speaker 3: It's just the two of them, the three of us.
So it's been nice.
Speaker 1: I bet she's still doing her like boot camp and stuff.
Speaker 3: Oh, she gets up. She got up this morning. She
works today at Jimmy Kimmel. She has to be there
at eight thirty. She gets up and goes to pilates
or whatever class it is. She actually last week got
up at five point thirty to take a six o'clock class.
Speaker 1: The teacher never showed up. Yeah, she was pissed. I
got a bit fucking.
Speaker 2: Five thirty to go to the six o'clock class and
the teacher. Now now I have to go to work,
and now it can't work out until like tonight, and
I'm like, well, you can skip a day.
Speaker 1: Natalia. She she loves to work out every day. She's
not being obsessive though, No, no, no, not really.
Speaker 2: No. She's got a little bit of my mom and her.
She's very disciplined. She likes to be healthy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know shun TikTok watching all these healthy dishes
to make, and she asked me to make them, you know.
Speaker 1: So I haven't done it yet, but we'll see. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But you know, she's I don't know, it's the mindset
that she has.
Speaker 2: She's got the mindset, grindset. Oh and then they watched
Love Island for two hours last night.
Speaker 1: It was at the finale. Oh my god, yes, did
you watch it? I did not.
Speaker 2: I have not watched either single episode of the whole thing.
It's like a whole cultural phenomenon that I am not
in on.
Speaker 1: Except that I know that Hudah is right crazy. Yeah,
that's about all I know. Yeah, and then like two
girls got kicked out. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I watched it last season, but this season there's too
many episodes. It's like thirty six episodes or something, and
it goes on every day. It's on every day. Yeah,
so Natalia had like our girls over watching. I think
last night was the finale, and it just kept going
and going and like are they going home yet?
Speaker 1: Like what's going on? Yeah? So uh yeah.
Speaker 2: Alb started out telling me about, oh my gosh, mom,
and there's this girl named Hudah or whatever, and and
so I heard all this and then like she never
checked back in.
Speaker 1: So then late I'd be like, so is Houdah still there?
She'd be like yes, Mom. I'm like all right, how
did I know? Yeah, you're not updating me? Yes, I know.
Speaker 3: So did you watch the Amazon Prime One Night in
Idaho documentary? I did not, Okay, I know that this
story's been going on everybody. You know, it's the Idaho
college kids that got married Brian Kolberger. And but this
documentary it came out on Friday and it's brand new,
and the difference about all the other documentaries this documentary.
They talked to the kids, not the two roommates, but
the kids that were very close to the kids in
that house that showed up that morning of the murders that.
Speaker 1: Called the cops.
Speaker 3: They also talked to two other families, Ethan Chapman Chapman,
the boy that died, and they talked to Maddie Mogul's parents,
their family, which they those families really haven't spoken out.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Here's the thing that's so interesting
about this documentary.
Speaker 3: So you hear these sides of the story, and they
also go into Brian Colberger's you know, people that they've
he knew in school, and his Facebook posts that he
posts under a different name when people were trying to
solve the people are trying to figure out who the
killer was, he was posting as somebody else and his
alias was Papa Rogers and Rogers is the the kid
the last name of the kid that was the Inceell
that went on a shooting rampage in Isla Vista and
Santa Barbara.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yes, I remember that.
Speaker 2: He like, look, I apparently respected that guy and anyway,
so he was like posting recognized game. Right, So it's
very creepy.
Speaker 3: But the thing that I found really interesting and a
lot of people I think have seen the doc book
but you'll see it not a spoiler, but the nine
one one call. Everybody was always going, why is there?
Why are they saying? Why are they calling nine one
one at like eleven thirty twelve o'clock in the afternoon
after four murders, and these two roommates were in the house.
Speaker 1: What the fuck?
Speaker 3: And then when you listen to the nine one one call,
the girls are crying hysterical, and then one guy gets
She's like, just let me talk to one person. So
the one kid, the boy, gets on the phone and
he's the only one that went into the house.
Speaker 1: He told the girls. So the nine one one call, she.
Speaker 3: Says, they're saying there's a person unconscious in the house.
And that's another thing that everybody was like, why why
were they saying a person unconscious? Like four kids again
murdered upstairs? Why are they saying a person is unconscious? Well,
because the two roommates in the house called their friends
that lived up the street that are always there. They're
like they're part of their friend group. Guy and a girl,
boyfriend girlfriend. The boyfriend tells the girls wait outside, goes upstairs.
The girls I think saw Xana like on the ground,
but didn't really see any and they just ran out
of the house. And they were like, something weird happened
last night in our house, and and Xana and Ethan
are not answering our phone, and it looked like Xanna
was passed out, and so that's why they were like.
So then the kid goes, he tells them stay here.
He goes inside, he sees what's happened, and then he
comes back out. He doesn't want the girls to be traumatized,
so he says on the phone. The woman says they
are they conscious and he says no, So are they
breathing and he says no. So that's what happened that
morning with the nine one one calls because these two
girls heard and then at the same time they now
think that Xana and ethaner but they cannot get hold
of Maddie and Kyley, the two girls on the third floor.
They kept calling, so they don't know for a long
time that there's two other victims in the house. These
poor kids that the cops wouldn't telling them anything. The
parents were like, what's going on there was a murder
in the house, but we're trying to get a hold
of the other two kids. Nobody's answering, like so they
didn't know for a long time. They just thought it
was the two of them. It's really sad, but it
was really interesting hearing their side of the story.
Speaker 1: It's on Amazon Prime. Yep, one Night Nightaho. Okay, I'm
gonna watch that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now, I watched something that was so good. It's called
Dying for Sex. A lot of our listeners already know
about it.
Speaker 1: This was a podcast.
Speaker 2: It was a podcast. I remember I was trying to
get the girl, Nicky Boyer. I was trying to get
her to come be a guest on our podcast, like.
Speaker 1: A long time ago. Yeah, I remember nicating with her.
Yeah after Dying for a second.
Speaker 2: Okay, so weird, little small world thing is Nicki Boyer,
who's the best friend of the girl with cancer.
Speaker 1: Who made the podcast with her? Nicki.
Speaker 2: I did this sketch, like shortly after I finished Parental Discretion.
I did this sketch, this mom sketch where there were
a bunch of us playing different mom characters. I can't
remember which mom I was, but it was for do
you remember this website called pop Sugar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it.
Speaker 2: Was like a supposed to be a sketch on there. Anyway,
Nicki and I totally hit it off. Lori kil Martin,
who's been on our podcast, played the like normal mom,
and then we were all these over the top moms.
I want to say. Nicki played like drunk mom, like
drinking mom. She was really funny and so like it
was a few years later. I heard this podcast and
I was like, Nikki Boyer, that name sounds so familiar.
So I reached out to her and I was like, hey,
are you the same Nicky Boyer that did this podcast?
And she was like yes, she kind of lives near me,
and we were totally bonding. I believe it was through
Instagram or Facebook. Well she's not on Facebook anymore because
so I finally got around to watching the show, which
is on Hulu.
Speaker 1: Oh it's a Hulu Okay, it's on Hulu. It is
so good.
Speaker 2: Shoe Williams, who we love yeah from Take This Dance.
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh yeah, Take This Waltz. Take This Waltz. Yeah.
Speaker 2: She plays Molly, who's the girl with cancer. It's really
different and like sexual and it's sad, and it reminded
me a little bit, and I was gonna bring it
back up.
Speaker 1: It reminded me of.
Speaker 2: You your story about your friend Jennifer jen right, yeah, yeah,
guide who died of cancer ovarian cancer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because she was I mean, I got to watch
this show. But Jennifer I always described as like Carrie Bradshaw,
Sex and the City, just very full of life and
just killing it work. And you know, she worked every day,
like since I met her. And in high school she
worked at Tower Records.
Speaker 1: Then she worked her way.
Speaker 2: Up at Sony Records or Universe like she got all
these you know, great jobs, bought a house in the valley,
and then after she bought that house, about six months later,
she was stage four ovarian cancer.
Speaker 1: Oh so like right, her first diagnosis was oh.
Speaker 3: I was there, Yeah, when they opened her up at
the hospital because we didn't know what it was.
Speaker 1: Her stomach was very extended.
Speaker 3: So she was your high school friend, yes, from high school,
but this now she's she's thirty. I think she was
about she was friends with too, Yes, yeah, she was
friends with Suzanne, but I stayed really like we went
on trips together.
Speaker 1: She had a group of friends.
Speaker 3: She didn't have any family because her mom died of cancer.
Oh go, and her sister she never talked to. So
she had like this group of girls that were lesbians
that she worked with.
Speaker 1: And then there was me and we always hung out.
Speaker 3: We had dinners together after work, like we just and
then yeah, she bought the house in the valley, and
then we were like her support person. Yeah, we were
at she was at the hospital getting surgery and we
stayed and.
Speaker 1: She didn't know it was cancer. No, no, no no.
Speaker 3: And the doctor after the surgery came to talk to
us and said, she has staged four ovarian cancer.
Speaker 1: She's basically riddled with cancer.
Speaker 3: And he said, and I remember one of Stacy, one
of her friends, said she just had a pap smear
like eight months ago. And he goes, I don't think
she had this eight months ago. This is how fast
ovarian cancer he can take, you know, can take over.
And I remember, I just remember those words. And then
it was two years of you know, losing her hair,
which was her signature, like she had really curly, thick
black hair. And uh, and again no family, so we
would take care of her. I would go over there.
To this day, I can't smell dawn soap because I
would have to rinse out her bucket that you would pukein.
Speaker 1: Like we would be watching TV.
Speaker 3: I remember we watched Chris Rock documentary or Chris Rock
Special and you know, and we would take turns taking
care of her.
Speaker 1: And then two years sister never came back in her life.
Speaker 3: No, her sister and her, I mean she kind of
came around. Stacy was her best friend and so her
she would talk to the sister and give her updates,
but that was it. Maybe she would come, but she
would aggravate Jennifer. Jennifer didn't want her around. They never
got along from day one, I guess. So her stepdad
that she was very close to was shot and killed
because he owned a body shop. And like Fan Eyes
when we were in high school, we loved him. He
died suddenly. Then loved her mom. She's like this Jewish mom,
did you eat? Did you eat? Did you you want
to bake? Put some raspberry jam on that belt? Like
she was just great. And then she got uh breast
cancer and then it spread to her organs and then
she died like through three years before Jennifer was diagnosed.
And then so that was it like she didn't have family.
We were her family. And yeah, and she two years
later she was gone, yeah we were the We're exactly
the same age.
Speaker 1: She was thirty four. Yeah. Wow, that's so sad. Yeah,
so is it like this is it this show? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Similar? Similar. The remis is if you remember the pot
did you listen.
Speaker 1: To the podcast? I think I did, but I don't remember.
Speaker 2: So the premise is that this woman, Molly, gets diagnosed
with cancer, treats it, and then it comes back, and
she's her husband who like helped her through the cancer.
They just had a very like sexless marriage and she
felt like he didn't see her sexually anymore. She wanted
she when she gets the terminal diagnosis, she's like, damn,
like I want to have sex, Like I want to
figure out who I am. I want I don't want
to just be stuck with this guy who doesn't like sex.
Of course, so she leaves him and then she just
starts going crazy like she has like a just sleeps
with tons of guys and does all kinds of kinky stuff.
And so I re listened to the podcast.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a little obsessive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched the show over the past week, like
since I last saw you. I was like, all these
people keep recommending it. I'm going to give it an
episode or two, and then I got hooked. I watched
the whole thing. I think there's eight episodes I watched
or nine. I watch it all in two days. Then
I was like, oh, the podcast was really good though,
so I'm going to listen to the podcast.
Speaker 1: That's probably what I'm gonna do. I get like that
too podcast.
Speaker 2: So Wondery the podcast company has gotten like super greedy
and they took that podcast and put it behind a paywall.
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I'm going to listen to it all in like one
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It is really good. Honestly, the show is even better.
The show is even better. Really they changed a little
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Speaker 1: And there's Rob Delaney's in it.
Speaker 2: And he's really good, and I just I really really
like the series.
Speaker 1: I highly recommend it. I'm gonna lie and Michelle Williams
plays plays Molly plays cancer. Yeah, and then doesn't she
have a fleet? Plays this? Oh plays the best friend?
She plays you.
Speaker 2: Jenny Slate always plays the best friends in movies, and
she and the Blake Lively movie, right, yes, yeah, she
played a friend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm still going to check that out.
Speaker 2: So then I was like, well, I've already I'm on
this free trial, so I remember that I like this podcast.
Oh my gosh, what's it called. It's a it's a
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Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: The thing is it's all behind a paywall now though,
so you gotta. So that's why I was like, I'm
gonna I'm gonna binge on some wondery stuff. And I
remembered that I listened to this a long time ago,
but with my memory it brand new. Right.
Speaker 1: I've also seen.
Speaker 2: The movie Alive huh, probably ten times in my life.
But again, I know there's a guy named Nando. Right,
but that's about where my memory ends, you know. I
know they eat each other. That's all I remember.
Speaker 1: Right, I haven't seen a live in years. It's such
a good movie. Should watch it again. It's really good.
Speaker 2: I should have made my family watch that for my birthday. Yes,
everybody's just crying.
Speaker 1: I should tell the kids to watch it with me.
Speaker 3: They're always like, I'm like, well, you guys want to
watch I'm trying to get them to go see the
Brad Pitt movie with me, and they're like, yeah, yeah, okay,
how about Thursday.
Speaker 1: Well one's busy, the other one. How about Friday?
Speaker 3: And well no, both busy Friday, Like all right, well,
then I guess we'll never go see it. And then
sudd he went to see the Jurassic Park movie.
Speaker 1: But and I haven't been to the movie theater in years.
I don't think I've been to a movie theater since COVID.
I me too. Well, no, that's not true. I got
spoiled into just seeing everything at home. Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 3: It comes out and I'm like, maybe I have maybe
I've seen like one or two things, but so yeah, no,
I have been to the movies.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yeah, I don't know why. I just was
lying like that. Well you're not lying, You're just forgetful.
I remember all of a sudden, I was like, wait,
I saw that movie. Yeah, you need al saw something else? Yeah, yeah,
I know, I do you know what I got stuck on.
Speaker 3: I was like, I was on HBO and HBO Max
and I was like, oh and then and just like
that is back.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm doing Rose Pricks recovering it. Yes, every Friday morning.
Speaker 3: So I started watching it and then I got caught up,
and then I was like, let me watch last season.
And I just remember how ridiculous it is. It's it's
so ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It's so it's so bad. Oh my god.
Speaker 3: So it's so cringy sometimes. Oh so it's just a
cringe fest. I'm like embarrassed for them.
Speaker 1: So bad. Okay alone.
Speaker 2: My other podcast partner, Cecily, who does Rose we have
been laughing so hard at her book, Carrie's Book, which
is from the eighteen hundreds, and Cecily keeps making chat
GPT write a version of like the.
Speaker 1: Book of her book.
Speaker 2: So her book is out, no, but it's like in
the book in the show she's writing a novel.
Speaker 1: She's basing it in the eighteen hundred.
Speaker 2: Yes, so we're asking chat Gpt to write us as
a bad novel from the eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 1: And it's like better than what she's writing, that's the thing.
It's like.
Speaker 2: Then we read that and we're like, oh my god,
it's still better than what Carrie's writing.
Speaker 1: And then there's this she's.
Speaker 2: Supposed to be having like a flirtation with this other
like a writer. Yes, and then they exchange chapters in
the last episode and he reads hers and he's like.
Speaker 1: Carrie, it's amazing. You're amazing. Now, well, I can't believe
how talented.
Speaker 2: It's like, I am a British guy who wrote who
wrote a huge novel? Or is writing it now about
Margaret Thatcher is like into what carries romance writing.
Speaker 1: It's like, give me a break.
Speaker 3: And then like the poor boyfriend comes over throws a
rock at the window and breaks it that I don't know.
Just every scene is just like cringe after cringe after cringe,
and uh, like I just now now I'm trying to
I'm getting them confused in my head.
Speaker 1: Because I watched last season.
Speaker 3: But uh yeah, now she's like with what and by
the way, what's the deal with like his son? And
she's like there, and like one is so excited to
see her, and the other one's just like doesn't want
to talk to her because I get it, Like he's
the he's got prop.
Speaker 1: Which she's when she's when she's staying at the farmhouse. Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 3: And the whole Xanax thing not xanax uh adderall thing
was weird, and it just all the storylines are just
like are they trying so hard to like hit all
the things that are going on in our pop culture
right now?
Speaker 1: I don't get it.
Speaker 2: Well. Last season I had such a problem with it
because it was they were trying to be so woke.
It was almost like they were making fun of what people.
It was like you're gone, You've gone so far that
like this is why people hate woke people. Like every
character is trying to be And also it was almost
like they made the original characters like they were Rip
Van Winkle and had been asleep for twenty years and
then woke up and there's like, oh gosh, we need
to have some black friends, right right right? Yeah? Oh wait,
what's a non binary person? Okay, how do I do pronouns?
Speaker 1: You know, like you've.
Speaker 2: Never hurt, Like all of a sudden came at you, right,
and you're like, I've got to change everything about my life.
Speaker 1: Like he came from the fats in the past.
Speaker 2: Like unfrozen caveman lawyer. I'm just a caveman. I don't
know about non binary people.
Speaker 1: What's a pro? Now? I know every single thing was
like trying to try. It's very trying, too hard, Oh
my god.
Speaker 2: And then Charlotte's kids are so freaking obnoxious.
Speaker 1: Oh Charlotte, uh Lily.
Speaker 2: It's like they don't understand that they It's like none
of the writers have kids.
Speaker 1: So they're like teenagers, am I right? Right? They're crazy?
Speaker 2: And yes they're Once one of them is talking to
the neighbors in the in the building because she's on
this one app like what what teenage.
Speaker 1: Daughter would do that? Right? Right? She and on that
she's on her Instagram, right, TikTok.
Speaker 2: But the other one is like Lily is super spoiled
and everything she says is.
Speaker 1: Like god, mo, stop mom.
Speaker 2: I know. In the last episode, she refuses to get
out of bed because her boyfriend. Oh and then here's
an example of like two woke. Right, it's like, yeah,
so my boyfriend has a boyfriend, and then they're all like,
oh cool cool, Right, She's like yeah, and like I
need to I don't want to go on the family
trip because like then my boyfriend's going to hang out
with his boyfriend and then like I'm not going to
get time by time with him. Yeah, and then the
other one goes, yeah, it's called being like Polly, as
if they're all dumb forout like right now. And I
remember saying on our podcast, like no, but as a mom,
it's not what it's not that you're being anti woke
to go like that's kind of fucked up, Like he's
in a whole other relationship and now you're having to
compete against what about your friends?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you're allowed to be a little bit disapproving
of the fact that your daughter is now obsessed with
like competing competing with somebody else, right, Right, then that
boyfriend breaks up with her and then she's like screams
and refuses to get out of bed, right, even going
to her mom's birthday party.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, this is just how people ask. Yeah,
it is.
Speaker 3: It's like people that write the show just don't have kids.
And they don't. They just don't they think they they're writing.
They are writing caricatures. Yeah, they don't have friends, they
don't have jobs. No, it's it's just insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I got, I got, I walked down that road,
I got sucked into that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And no, you're gonna watch Bachelor in Paradise this season?
I am, I am, But there's only one episode, right, yeah,
I like for it.
Speaker 2: And again we're recording on a Monday, so this episode
two is tonight.
Speaker 1: And how is it? Is it good? I mean, I
don't love it? How does it? I just I'm just curious.
Do we talk about this?
Speaker 3: How do the older bachelorettes or bachelor's they're not there yet. Oh,
they're not there yet. How is that gonna work?
Speaker 2: I guess they're just gonna be all together. So if
one wants to date a younger.
Speaker 1: One, they can. I guess. Oh, oh, well that's kind
of interesting. I yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 3: I guess we'll see. Yeah. I just started Miami Housewives
because I don't know is it new? There's the new season,
but I didn't watch last season. And a couple of
people told me last season was tons of drama. I
didn't watch last season because it was too trick because
one was getting a divorce and she was like dealing
with divorce lawyers and I was like, okay, and that
was last year and I was like, this is too
triggering for me. I can't watch it. But now I'm
watching it. You know, it's the same. And then the
new OC Housewives came out, which I watched that episode.
Speaker 1: Is it good?
Speaker 3: It's you know, it's all fluff at first. Here's the
thing with these housewives. Every episode, it's like the first
half is all I'm going with my daughter to her
ballet class, and then I'm going on a date night
with my husband and We're talking about our problem issues
and blah blah blah. Then the second half of the
episode it's all of them fucking fighting and yelling and screaming,
and then it ends.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: That's every episode of Housewives, so Orange County. The very
first episode is basically getting back into you know, just
what's her name?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, wait, so what were we gonna say?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you something, Oh.
Speaker 2: Heather, Heather Deubro, Heather Debreau. I always did her podcast.
Did you go to her studio?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I did, And I have to say, thinking about it,
I did her show and I also did what's the
other nut job? The not Shannon No, no, no, no,
uh Glanville Brandy. Oh right, I did her podcast, but
that was a little weird. Heather's I have to I
have to say she was very nice.
Speaker 2: She was. She gave me like some pridet, but she
wasn't very personable, like she didn't really she was I
think just starting dismissive, was she or was she like
really friendly?
Speaker 3: She was very friendly and very polite, but not like
very like wanting to really know about you. She was
more talking about I think it was if I remember
she was just starting the podcast and she was like
oh you an Adam started a podcast?
Speaker 1: Had it?
Speaker 3: She's more interested in her business? Yes, yes, yes, that's
what it was. And then she gave me a couple
of free products when I left.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I.
Speaker 3: Can't remember, but but she was very nice. But now
just watching her on TV, it's the same with Lisa
vander part I just I'm so turned off by the
rich tone it the fuck down, like we get it,
and that it's understandable, like that's their life and they're
showing their lives and everything. But does every storyline up
to be you and your husband looking at new property
and new houses and this and that, like you know,
like come on, it's just it's a turnoff to get.
Speaker 2: So irritated to whether there's all the talk about their purses,
Like I don't care, I don't care how many freaking
burkins I know?
Speaker 3: Can they get jealous? Kyle gets jazz like I haven't
seen that one. I got to get one right, okay
and shuttle down.
Speaker 1: Jennifer, Oh, Jennifer Tilly. Jennifer Tilly is a purse that
looks like a boat. It's the baton.
Speaker 2: Oh Jen, I love all your jewelry, Jennifer, I just
she drives me nuts.
Speaker 1: It's insane. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So then so Brandy, do you remember this? So we
would talk about Housewives all the time. Everybody hated it
except for a few people that liked it. We were
like we were like a Housewives recap show for a while.
People would complain. But then Brandy came on our show,
and then everybody was like, well, Stephanie, what are you
going to do now? Because you like talk about how
when you don't like her all the time?
Speaker 1: What are you going to do? And like, what do
you think I was gonna do? I was super nice?
What do you want her to do?
Speaker 2: I'm sure to change her be like you're I can't
stand you on the show.
Speaker 1: You're crazy.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be nice to her obviously, And then people
were like, wow, you were just really nice to her.
Yeahs would be right, great as you would be is
exactly right?
Speaker 1: Right? Right then you got asked to go do her show,
not me? Remember that? Yeah, I don't remember how that happened.
Speaker 2: Well, it was because you were the more like I
think she on podcasts won too, is that wanted to
probably wanted to be on Adam show.
Speaker 1: Oh but just so, how was that when you went
and did her show.
Speaker 3: She kind of seemed like she's brandy how she is
on the show. She just kind of like airheaded and
all over the place. She was nice to me too,
I mean, I remember she was friendly. I think with
her she was more interested in like my married life,
Like she wanted to know how it's like to be
long term marriage.
Speaker 1: I think we talked about that kind of stuff. But
had Eddie Cibrian already left her for Lease said that far? Yeah, okay,
yeah that was over and done with. Yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was she was fine, she was nice. It
was just like forty five minutes on both shows. Yeah,
you know, that was it in and out.
Speaker 2: But I know we've told this story a million times,
but sadly, early on Jill Zarren came to for crying
out loud.
Speaker 1: It was probably the parent.
Speaker 2: Experiment at this point experience, and I was I was
all geared up for it. I hadn't we weren't like
on a super regular schedule at that and well we
weren't now now, but we were supposed to be recording.
I know I've told this story so many times, but
it was Jill's horrible moment. We were all prepared for it.
I totally forgot we were recording. Went to the gym,
and then Gary called me and was like, hey are
you where are you? And I was like at the gym.
Speaker 1: Where are you? It's like Jill's arn's here.
Speaker 2: We're supposed to be recording and I was like, oh no,
and then he goes, we can wait for you, and
I was like.
Speaker 1: Oh god, I am far away, Like yeah, you were.
Speaker 2: You interviewed her yourself, and I interviewed her and she
showed me her boobs right, and she was like, you've
got to get a boob You've got to get a booblet.
I have the best doctor in New York City. Where's
Bobby Bobby telling her that? Like she was telling me
I needed a boob lift. And you know, she's like
look at my Like I had the same big boobs
like you and no scars and blah blah blah. She
just like flashed me.
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, all right, and she was just
she was somebody that just doesn't give a a fuck
about you.
Speaker 1: She's all about her her her there, her brain.
Speaker 3: There's nothing going on in her brain about she's talking
to somebody else. It's all about how can I start
a podcast? How can I do like what?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Do you get free products? I can get you free
products I can get you know what I mean? Do
you have T shirts? Like I know how to do it.
She's just wheeling and dealing constantly, you know. Yeah, but
yeah she was She was interesting. And then I had
dinner with her in New York.
Speaker 1: Oh yeow like a long time ago. Yeah, I was right.
Speaker 3: It was like a couple months after that, and I
went to New York and I don't remember who I
was with, but they were like, yeah, called Jill Zarn.
We went to a nice restaurant. She picked up the check,
showed me your tits again in the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. And she's not a drinker. She drinks diet coke.
Speaker 3: Like it's not like she's drunk, right, she just like
she said, Yanta, and I mean in a nice way.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like people like that, but I won't want to
hang out twenty four seven. Yeah, you know, just whatever,
but uh, yeah, you know what I just got reminded of.
Do you remember, because it was around that same time,
do you remember when Kaylan had been work like helping Gary,
like shadowing Gary for a while and we couldn't remember
his name, couldn't remember his name. But do you remember
when I thought Kaylen was being weird with me?
Speaker 1: Yes? I do.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I was getting like Twitter messages I guess, right,
Oh is that what we had hacked into his account?
We found out later, but he was sending me messages
just like oh that's right, so you looking at me?
Speaker 1: Or have you memb? And it was like freaking creepy.
And then I took you.
Speaker 2: Aside and I was like, can I got to show
you something like this is freaking me out? And then
you were like, Okay, that's really weird, but I promise
you that's not him.
Speaker 1: And then it did.
Speaker 2: It turned out that somebody had like somebody did hack
and nobody hacked him.
Speaker 1: It was like yeah, and then it's.
Speaker 2: Really weird messages that were like hmm, yeah, I want
to say that. They were like you're so hot. It
was something that they were like, see you looking at me?
Something about that I remember. And then we did bring
it up to him and we laughed about it. But yes,
later yes, because we didn't want to freak him out,
and he was like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: He was so mortified.
Speaker 3: Now that we're talking about Kaylen really quick, Gee, do
you ever notice that he always looks at me when
he's talking?
Speaker 1: Did you notice that? No? And then his dad did
the same thing. I totally some of the dad dad. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just he had this habit of when he would
start talking to us, he would start with you and
then he would go back and then he would stay
on me. And I'm like, but Stephanie asked you go
go back to look.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just you'd never notice.
Speaker 2: That, not really with Caitlin. But maybe it was where
I sit that I didn't notice. Maybe, but I definitely
not remember when his dad he talked to you the
whole time, and I was like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you would ask ever, I know. So it's weird.
But Caitlyn had a little.
Speaker 2: Bit happens with people, though, and I think I think
like you and I are probably more sensitive to it
with each other, just because it feels rude, right, Yeah,
because it's happened to me where the person was mostly
talking to me and I'm like.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's right there, yeah, yeah, yeah, because.
Speaker 2: Sometimes when you're not being spoken to, you can tend
to like pull yourself.
Speaker 1: Out of the conversation because you're like, right, really need
me here?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and not even in a poudy way, but
in a right like I'm not going to put out
that much energy if the person's not really Yes, I
see that, and of course I feel like we've both
done that right where it's like you got this like
with the one that was Jillian Laurence. Yes, I was like, yeah,
keep talking of stuff, and we were.
Speaker 1: Like, my name is Paul at this point, I don't
know she booked you. I know she booked your crazy ass.
Yeah that was crazy. That was crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one I do remember. You started out strong,
like you were asking questions. You're like, yeah, like, oh,
this is so interesting. And then then she had that
book about the yeah, the serial serial killer.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: I wanted yeah, I wanted to get in. Yeah. Then
she was just kind of falling off, and I was
like all right, you're like definitely, yeah, you're good.
Speaker 3: And then we don't even have to talk about it
because we didn't. She just came right, so we didn't
have any pow wow.
Speaker 2: No. But I had read a bunch of the book,
so you were like, okay, thank god because I was
asked because you were like, tell me about it, but
she was so all over the.
Speaker 1: Place that she couldn't focus. So I had some specific questions.
Speaker 3: Right, but we didn't talk about her being all over
the place.
Speaker 1: We just I knew the right.
Speaker 2: No, we did ring right afterwards, right after Treon, right,
so I knew when the interview started is kind of
going off the rails. So because you had seen it
a little bit walking in, but you hadn't had time
to tell me because you guys walked in together, I
couldn't say incoming.
Speaker 1: Alert. No, And it's not like we could like text
each other.
Speaker 2: We're all in the room together right right, No, So
we had to suffer through it, both all of us,
all three of us, You, me and Kaylin, going like, okay,
am I crazy?
Speaker 1: Is this exactly? Is this what's happening? Right? Is it?
Speaker 2: Me? Am?
Speaker 1: I just like I know. But I knew that you
knew what was going on for sure.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I think we've had a bunchet. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think we've had guests like that before where we
were thinking the same thing, maybe with Betsy Brown braun Betsy,
Oh my god, I'd like to have her back on
the show.
Speaker 1: And she was like.
Speaker 2: Serious, she was serious, Well, you and I in those
days we were I believe at the beginning of that,
we still had Kathy, So we were trying to like make
the best of things. But I think at a certain
point she came in and she was really lecturing us.
Remember she was like, do not refer to them as
the twins.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: They had to have the special special day, their special cup,
their special dish, their special dinner requests.
Speaker 1: Right, And I was like, how much free time do
you think we're gonna have? Triple B now went out
the window. Any of her advices like out the windows.
Speaker 2: I do believe I tried to give the twins the
special day or remember it was like one time you
let one twin choose the color of you know, because
it was at the age where they were like I
want the purple siting cup or whatever that you let them.
They get everything they want that day, and then the
next day the other one, Well what happens is you
forget that one of them even had a special day.
Then like a few days later, the other one's like
I never got a special day, And you're like, all right,
we're not doing that anymore. That's that I'm like every
day special days back.
Speaker 1: Come on, I know you're already spoiled.
Speaker 2: I already have being a terrible mom and giving you
everything you want at all times.
Speaker 1: What's not a special day for you. It's not like
you have chores. You're two. It's so true. Every day's
a special day, especially parent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bagel, I'm spreading the creams on there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't spread it like that. I'm like, okay, how
do you want me to do it?
Speaker 2: I'm here, I got you, never getting all at broccoli,
cut the stems, cut the crust off the pizza.
Speaker 1: Okay, give it back, I'll do it right right right,
cut this for me, Okay, I got it. Sure. As
you're dancing like a monkey front all three of them.
Speaker 2: You're bringing your kids subway up lunch, it's like every day.
Speaker 1: Is special, exactly right.
Speaker 2: You don't need to stand out. We really the last
time she was on though, we were like never again.
Speaker 1: No, I know that was that. I feel like she
was the last time she was kind of mean.
Speaker 2: Yes, she was, yes, because I think we were kind
of pushing back a little bit with her because the
first time we were just like deer in the headlights.
Speaker 1: But then and.
Speaker 3: Then we read up about her, like we got to
know who she was, right, and then we both talked
about our opinions about it, and then she came back
again because she wanted to come back again. And then
I think during that second time we were like pushing
back a little bit, like, well.
Speaker 1: Do they really need a special day?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: Right? So then she got mean.
Speaker 2: I think also one of the things you and I
started agreeing on kind of early on was that experts
are not where it's at for us, like, because our
whole vibe was like, I mean, we'll try it that way,
but we're probably not going to have any consistency, so
it's not going to work, you know, with training, like
it was like the sleep expert, Let's be honest, we're
not going to sleep train, Like, we're not those people.
Speaker 3: Do you do you get emails? I still get emails
all the time. Hey I got this parenting expert. Yes,
I get them all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't really answer them till they come back
and answer or I'm just like that's not really our show.
Speaker 3: Yes, if they come back around like a second or
third time, then I'll say, like have you seen our show?
Speaker 1: Have you listened? I mean, have you listened to it? Clearly?
Not once.
Speaker 2: Last time we had a guest once last time we
talked about sleep. What's the last time we had a
guest that wasn't like Julie Kaysem, that's just like if
you have a guess, it's usually to bring us some
juicy story or not to like give us your parenting expertise. Like,
our kids are not even miners anymore. Well, Sadie and
Xander are almost not even miners, So like what are
we gonna.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're different, we're different. That's it.
Speaker 2: Well, at a certain point early on, we were like,
we're the show that tells you what not to do, like,
don't do what we're doing. Yes, that's right, So we
don't need somebody to come on and like tell us
all the things that we're going to do wrong.
Speaker 1: With our don't go in your kids room and when
they go, mommy, well let's ship the sale, that's yes, don't.
Speaker 3: And then you know it's about our lives too, talking
about our kids, and right, that's it. Yeah, and our
parenting fails, right, don't f it up exactly? Speaking of which,
let's do our shout outs. We didn't say how to
our friends yet, so let's do it right now. Christa
gets get the stream true, actually so, Stephanie's a stinker
wrinker Athena. We love your dancing, Sandra, we love your
green shade, your hue, Jennifer, don't fall Aaron, you're a
dirty Sanchez. Leslie is still coughing. Get a vaccine, seriously.
Alicia Kascalente from the City of el Monte, Helly, she
will take it to play in Parenthood.
Speaker 1: Rye, I said it back on when it's so cute
you shown.
Speaker 2: That's baby Missy and Gabby causin trouble. I think they've
been outside on the sidewalk in front of the studio.
I think right, they've been stocking us yep. Valerie, Bubba
Fenwick hits out of the park. Katerina, girl, please already
go to Adrian's dad and get that looked at. Call
back to Tuesday, Polly, we live your pancakes. Rita's rocking,
Elizabeth Williamson's kids in her bassiet, Nikki, call your girl, Kelly, ooh,
Laddie Dot and Dick is frolicking. And then we just
have a couple more business shouts. Jacob Crowley is giving
his shout out to the ACLU. We need them on this.
Thank you, Thank you Jacob Aclu. Christine Black. If you
want to do some travel, why not you use Waves
and Wonder Travel. Find her on Instagram at Travel with
Christine B. And Fern Candle. I love my fer and
candle yep, right out of your home. She makes those
really good smelling soy candles. Go to Instagram at Ferncandle.
Adam Lerner Adam's got a car. You know what to do.
Go to Adams gootacar dot com. And I just want
to give a shout out for Drunkish. I forgot to
do it on our Tuesday episode, so please go to
my YouTube chance it's Drunkish podcast on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Because so a lot of people were.
Speaker 2: Saying about the Matthew Hahn episode, which was the guy
who broke into a safe he was he did prison time.
We pulled the story, the ten minute version of that story,
and it's on YouTube. It's on YouTube, so we're kind
of trying to do that with some clips.
Speaker 1: That's great, really good.
Speaker 2: And then you can just listen to that story if
you want, and please subscribe over there. I'm trying to
build up my subscribers and then this week I had
my friend Lee Simon, who has just a crazy He
was such a good storyteller, and my friend Tamra came
back on the show to talk to share stories about
our drunken days.
Speaker 3: He well, that's great. Yeah, it's looking really good. They
see it online. Yeah, yeah, so that's it.
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks everybody. You're a parent now, don't f it up.
Speaker 2: It's good Man good