1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,359 Speaker 1: John Murray joins us now as we go behind the counter, 2 00:00:02,399 --> 00:00:04,360 brought to you by our great friends not only here 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,080 at the Westgate, but wager talk dot Com for all 4 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,039 of your betty needs, no matter the sport, check it 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,599 out at wager talk dot com. John, what's going on? 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,919 We talked a lot of about the Aces come back 7 00:00:15,919 --> 00:00:17,640 here last night. I know you guys had it on 8 00:00:17,719 --> 00:00:21,679 here at the super Book and the Aces were a 9 00:00:21,679 --> 00:00:24,239 pretty solid favorite run around eight eight and a half. Right, 10 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:25,960 what kind of action were you guys taking there? 11 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: We needed them last night because we had we were 12 00:00:28,519 --> 00:00:31,079 we were a loser on the other side in the 13 00:00:31,239 --> 00:00:35,000 series price we were, we were dead, we were dead rights. 14 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,359 So we definitely needed the Aces last night. Plus I 15 00:00:38,359 --> 00:00:40,200 think it's just good for business. The further they go 16 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,759 in the playoffs, I think it's good for business. So 17 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,159 very happy with that result. 18 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: All right, that makes three of us then for all 19 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:49,359 different reasons. 20 00:00:49,439 --> 00:00:54,079 Speaker 3: My results, Marcos reasons. I was I was done in 21 00:00:54,159 --> 00:00:56,840 the third quarter. I had my player props cash two 22 00:00:57,479 --> 00:00:58,840 my two plays in the third quarter. 23 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,359 Speaker 4: So what'd you do for for that? 24 00:01:01,479 --> 00:01:04,599 Speaker 3: Sweated the sweated the ass to get the win because 25 00:01:04,599 --> 00:01:07,400 I didn't want the season then of course I'm having 26 00:01:07,439 --> 00:01:08,000 too much fun. 27 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: Of course only turned his attention over to Buffalo or Miami. 28 00:01:11,159 --> 00:01:12,079 He was sweating them out. 29 00:01:12,159 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: I earn a rumor at TC that he was watching 30 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,519 the NFL game. 31 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 4: I can't you believe this guy's shameful? Is that even legal? 32 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's john. It's an elimination game, right, it's 33 00:01:22,079 --> 00:01:24,560 a playoff game. What about the people sitting next to him, 34 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:25,480 including his wife? 35 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 3: Well, you know what, it's bad luck that game. The 36 00:01:27,599 --> 00:01:31,200 Thursday night games are on Amazon Prime. Trust me, I've 37 00:01:31,239 --> 00:01:33,480 spent enough money. Well I should say my wife spends 38 00:01:33,599 --> 00:01:36,519 enough money on Amazon with the deliveries every day. I 39 00:01:36,519 --> 00:01:39,439 got to use my my app and get my free 40 00:01:39,439 --> 00:01:41,359 subscription to Prime and yes, the game. 41 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 4: You're getting your money back and see that. Yeah, I 42 00:01:43,799 --> 00:01:44,359 could see that. 43 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,159 Speaker 2: Your wife probably saved me a lot of money on 44 00:01:47,239 --> 00:01:49,799 Amazon though, versus going to the mall store. 45 00:01:50,599 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 4: So really, who's. 46 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 3: I called bs to her when she tries to say 47 00:01:55,319 --> 00:01:55,599 that too. 48 00:01:57,439 --> 00:01:59,519 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I used to try to not order 49 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,560 so much stuf fun Amazon and then like no matter 50 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,799 what it was, especially like the dog food I get 51 00:02:03,799 --> 00:02:06,480 from my dogs, just like, well, it's actually cheaper on 52 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,400 Amazon and it's delivered to me by the time I 53 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,840 get home from work, So I'll stick with that. 54 00:02:12,759 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: Marco can't buy a you know, country concert tickets on Amazon, 55 00:02:16,479 --> 00:02:18,840 you know, for his wife, so he spends a lot 56 00:02:18,879 --> 00:02:19,919 of money with that. There. 57 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 3: You need to book some more country acts so I 58 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:24,599 can hit you up for Compson. 59 00:02:26,439 --> 00:02:28,759 Speaker 4: I'll make sure I share that information marketing too. 60 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,439 Speaker 1: And when you do that to me, don't mention that 61 00:02:32,479 --> 00:02:33,840 he's part of the TC Martin show. 62 00:02:34,479 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 4: Just say you know he's I have no idea who. 63 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you're you know, Kelly's Fred exactly. Put that 64 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:41,039 on the. 65 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:42,439 Speaker 3: Right to the top. 66 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 2: Kelly in Vegas, she was. She was a bit of 67 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,400 a nervous Nelly last night during that Buffalo game. She 68 00:02:50,479 --> 00:02:54,039 had Bills and Survivor. I had Bills and Circus Survivor. 69 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:55,960 So I was happy to see the Bills win. But 70 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:57,280 wasn't an easy win. 71 00:02:57,599 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 4: It was not. It wasn't like they won that game 72 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,439 going way. I think that's a misleading final. 73 00:03:01,439 --> 00:03:03,879 Speaker 1: So hold on, now, I remember last year it was 74 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,960 like it was a we you know, a wee ticket 75 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,000 a week a combination of the Survivor. You're saying she had, 76 00:03:10,159 --> 00:03:12,439 you had, she had did you guys get a divorce 77 00:03:12,479 --> 00:03:15,199 from the Survivors Survivor divorce. 78 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 2: She's taking the same approach. I said it like that, 79 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,159 because she's taking the same approach. Now two weeks in 80 00:03:20,199 --> 00:03:23,520 a row. She's in all these Survivor contests, and one 81 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,199 of them I am with her. But she's in the 82 00:03:26,199 --> 00:03:29,000 one here at the West Gate, the five K, which 83 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,159 obviously I'm not in, and she's in some on Splash Sports, 84 00:03:32,199 --> 00:03:33,400 which is a sponsor. 85 00:03:33,039 --> 00:03:34,599 Speaker 4: Of the show I do with her. 86 00:03:35,159 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: And she just went across the board bills across, just 87 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,000 like last week. She was across the board on No 88 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,759 No Week one, she was across the board on some 89 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:50,199 team Denver, Denver against Yeah. And so when I say 90 00:03:50,319 --> 00:03:53,400 when I say, I this entry that I had the 91 00:03:53,439 --> 00:03:56,800 bills on was in the Circus Survivor contest. 92 00:03:56,879 --> 00:03:58,319 Speaker 4: Kelly is not my partner on that. 93 00:03:58,400 --> 00:03:59,879 Speaker 1: Entry, but I was. 94 00:04:00,639 --> 00:04:03,199 Speaker 2: I was rooting for my own interests on the bills, 95 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,639 and I didn't think it was an easy one. I'll 96 00:04:05,639 --> 00:04:09,520 say that, you know, when you play a chip as 97 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,199 big as Buffalo, and I think Buffalo is one of 98 00:04:11,199 --> 00:04:13,039 the three best teams in the league. When you play 99 00:04:13,039 --> 00:04:16,160 a ship as big as Buffalo, you're kind of expecting 100 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,800 it to be a rocking chair winner, like if you 101 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,399 used Baltimore last week against Cleveland. 102 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,759 Speaker 4: You know, that's kind of what you're expecting when you 103 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:24,079 do that. 104 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,879 Speaker 2: Because Buffalo is going to be a bigger favorite next 105 00:04:26,879 --> 00:04:29,319 Sunday than they were last night, and there'll be a 106 00:04:29,319 --> 00:04:31,279 big favorite the following week as well. 107 00:04:31,319 --> 00:04:33,639 Speaker 4: They're at home against New England, so that's a big 108 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:34,240 chip to play. 109 00:04:34,399 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: I could see as bad as Miami is just the 110 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,160 record wise and just from a function standpoint, you know, 111 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,240 from top to bottom, the organization and everything that's going on, 112 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,639 that I could see against a division opponent the way 113 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,199 you know it was last night that you probably got 114 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,800 a lot of Miami money, you know in last night 115 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,720 because that number at eleven and a half, I mean 116 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,399 it is a divisional opponent, it was a Thursday night game. 117 00:04:57,439 --> 00:04:58,399 I think that's kind of high. 118 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 2: And there were definitely sharp grew taking twelve and a 119 00:05:00,879 --> 00:05:03,720 half and twelve we were at yesterday morning, we were 120 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,920 at plus twelve minus one oh five because remember we 121 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,399 deal the Thursday games minus one oh five, and we 122 00:05:09,439 --> 00:05:11,639 took some money at plus twelve minus one oh five 123 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,480 from price sensitive type players and it made sense. And 124 00:05:15,519 --> 00:05:17,800 if you watch the game, which unfortunately I watched the 125 00:05:17,959 --> 00:05:22,399 entire thing, the Dolphins receivers, you can't guard those guys 126 00:05:22,399 --> 00:05:25,240 one on one, and Buffalo had some key guys out 127 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,040 in the secondary. They just had some key guys out defensively. 128 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:28,519 Speaker 1: Period. 129 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: No Oliver in that game last night, so Miami certainly 130 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,639 gave a scare until that two interception and then the 131 00:05:36,199 --> 00:05:38,240 big play, though Marco was the was the roughing the 132 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,079 punter that extended Buffalo's drive, which ended up being the 133 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:41,879 decisive score. 134 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 4: I would have said that. 135 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,639 Speaker 2: Was running into the kicker, not roughing, but I mean, 136 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,000 obviously it was a penalty, no doubt. 137 00:05:49,079 --> 00:05:51,399 Speaker 4: But I was as a Buffalo. 138 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 2: Survivor player, I was pleased when they said roughing the kicker. 139 00:05:55,759 --> 00:05:57,600 I thought that was borderline. 140 00:05:57,759 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: I realized that, you know, the double digits using Buffalo 141 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,199 at home or you know, for Survivor. For me personally, 142 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,040 I I'm not in any of the Survivor contest. I 143 00:06:08,079 --> 00:06:11,600 don't like that. And ironically for me because my whole 144 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,959 life I've been geared to point spreads. I do horribly 145 00:06:15,519 --> 00:06:17,959 when you do something where you're just picking the winners, 146 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,399 I don't. I just can't do it. But I would 147 00:06:20,399 --> 00:06:23,560 not want to have a Thursday night game you're working 148 00:06:23,639 --> 00:06:26,439 with a short week and have it be a division game. 149 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,839 That's just I wouldn't want to be. 150 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,439 Speaker 2: Involved in you that makes sense, I know, I definitely, 151 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,560 I definitely can see that. And I think with the 152 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:38,240 Survivor contests, especially the Circle one, that should be treated 153 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,639 as entertainment. Yeah, there's eighteen thousand people in that, you're 154 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,240 not gonna win, you know. 155 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,199 Speaker 1: But you're still putting up how much money for an 156 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:47,720 entry fee? 157 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: No, No, it's it's purely entertainment. 158 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,439 Speaker 3: But the beauty of it is though, yeah, there's only 159 00:06:54,519 --> 00:06:56,639 going to be one person or maybe two people split 160 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,759 whatever at the end. But you can get yourself in 161 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,360 a position if you're still live and there's only you know, 162 00:07:03,399 --> 00:07:06,240 you get to say week fourteen, and you're less than 163 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,160 one hundred people live, there are people that will sell 164 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,800 sell it and take the profit. And in that instance 165 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,079 where you know you're doing game theory, you're doing game 166 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,279 theory all the way to get to keep surviving. But 167 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,120 if you want to try to turn your entry into 168 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,160 money before the end, you also got to have some 169 00:07:25,279 --> 00:07:28,959 decent teams left by the resume so that you know 170 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,720 you can continue to survive, or if you try to 171 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,199 sell it, you know you could have two guys that are, 172 00:07:35,319 --> 00:07:37,560 you know, both in the rentry. One's going to be 173 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,360 worth more. I know what the actual dollar figure is 174 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,759 if you divide it out, but if you still have 175 00:07:42,839 --> 00:07:46,759 two or three big name teams left late in the season, 176 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,079 your entry's worth a lot more money than somebody else 177 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,439 that burned through all the obvious choices. 178 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,879 Speaker 2: If your plan is to try to sell your entry, 179 00:07:55,319 --> 00:07:58,120 you don't use Buffalo last night, Yeah right, you hang 180 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,399 on to Buffalo the one The one thing that does 181 00:08:00,439 --> 00:08:02,879 bring Buffalo's value down a little bit though, is they 182 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,439 don't play on either of the holiday games. They don't 183 00:08:05,439 --> 00:08:08,079 play Thanksgiving week or Christmas week. That does bring their 184 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,240 value down. But like I said, I think they're one 185 00:08:10,279 --> 00:08:12,199 of the three best teams in the league. I think 186 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,120 you've got Baltimore and then I think you've got Buffalo 187 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,240 and Philadelphia just below Baltimore. I know that sounds funny 188 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,319 because Buffalo beat Baltimore, but I do think Baltimore, right, yeah, 189 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:22,959 I think Baltimore's the best team in the NFL, and 190 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,920 I think Philadelphia, although they are the worst watch in 191 00:08:26,959 --> 00:08:30,920 the NFL. They are a terrible watch. I do think 192 00:08:30,959 --> 00:08:32,399 they're the best team in the NFC, and I would 193 00:08:32,399 --> 00:08:34,840 put them just just a notch below the Ravens. 194 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: Buffalo put in on a scoring display, you know, forty 195 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,960 one points, thirty points, thirty one points always good for 196 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,559 the over. So two of the three games cash over 197 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,559 tickets as well too. And just you know, when you 198 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,639 talk about the survivor thing and to your point, Mark, 199 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,960 how you just broke it down. One of our loyal listeners, 200 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,440 you know, four years ago, got the big money. He 201 00:08:54,519 --> 00:08:57,440 was part of a four way winner. They had four 202 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,360 contestants and he had had that strategy come in to 203 00:09:00,399 --> 00:09:02,679 play there at the end, it's like, okay, you know, 204 00:09:02,879 --> 00:09:05,720 do you do you? You know, buy back? How do 205 00:09:05,759 --> 00:09:08,720 you how do you play this and that? And so yeah, 206 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,759 it's it's tough contest, but yeah, I mean you have 207 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,519 you win one of those that this guy won, you know, 208 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,559 and got a piece of that pie. You're set for 209 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,200 quite a while the rest of my career. And the 210 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,519 follow up story is the very next year, he purchased 211 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,200 thirty entries and was done with all thirty entries by 212 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,120 week three. Fourth True story. 213 00:09:29,399 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 3: Wow, Well he went out with the Cincinnati in the 214 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,159 first week exactly. 215 00:09:34,279 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: Most of what makes it why I say you should 216 00:09:37,759 --> 00:09:40,600 treat it for entertainment purposes, is there are syndicates that 217 00:09:40,639 --> 00:09:44,759 are buying let's say dozens of entries, but probably more 218 00:09:44,799 --> 00:09:48,320 than that, and they're playing all these different scenarios, and 219 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,200 most likely they're doing it with the intentive looking to 220 00:09:51,279 --> 00:09:54,320 sell somewhere along the line one of the ones that 221 00:09:54,399 --> 00:09:56,879 has all the good teams left it just all the 222 00:09:56,879 --> 00:10:00,159 different combinations. So I think it's a fascinating thing to 223 00:10:00,159 --> 00:10:02,679 be a part of. I don't expect to get rich 224 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,080 off at TC, and that's the keep working here at 225 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,480 the West and that's the. 226 00:10:06,519 --> 00:10:09,399 Speaker 1: Great attitude to have. We don't want you to go anywhere, 227 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,279 John so Well, I. 228 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 4: Probably won't because I gotta pick seventeen more winters. I'd 229 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:15,639 probably be here. 230 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you hung, you hung deep last year. 231 00:10:18,919 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 2: You did Kelly and I I know everything's about Kelly, but. 232 00:10:23,279 --> 00:10:24,879 Speaker 1: We got the wee tickets back. 233 00:10:24,919 --> 00:10:26,399 Speaker 4: We got to Thanksgiving one year. 234 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 2: That was one that was me and her was in 235 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,840 my name obviously because I'm out here, but it was 236 00:10:30,879 --> 00:10:33,159 me and her from the start. Five hundred bucks each 237 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,679 and we got the Thanksgiving Day and it was it 238 00:10:35,759 --> 00:10:36,399 was very fun. 239 00:10:36,519 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 4: It was fun. 240 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 3: I asked her on our show that we do this week. 241 00:10:40,159 --> 00:10:43,799 I said, on Fridays around five thirty Eastern time, do 242 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,919 your ears start burning. We're having a lot of fun 243 00:10:47,919 --> 00:10:48,759 at your expense. 244 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: Well, somebody needs to She went on this long rant. 245 00:10:53,639 --> 00:10:56,039 We did our show yesterday and I asked how her 246 00:10:56,039 --> 00:10:58,360 weekend went. Generic question. You know, it's kind of like 247 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,000 when you see somebody, Hey, I don't really care. As 248 00:11:02,039 --> 00:11:03,720 she goes in this long rant about how she went 249 00:11:03,759 --> 00:11:07,480 to her friend's birthday party and they rented a house 250 00:11:07,519 --> 00:11:09,679 on the water Friday, and then they went to Epcot 251 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,799 Center Saturday and how awful it was. And I was like, 252 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,240 that sounds pretty nice. I don't I was at work 253 00:11:15,279 --> 00:11:17,679 Friday and Saturday and Sunday. Kelly, that didn't sound too bad. 254 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't do weddings and birthday parties in football season. 255 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,279 I'm sorry. You got to schedule around. 256 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: Some people have other interests, not us, obviously, but other people, 257 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:30,960 strange people. 258 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk a little bit about some college 259 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,679 football here, John. We got to some decent games, you know, 260 00:11:37,759 --> 00:11:41,279 coming up on Saturday, We're gonna get into this with 261 00:11:41,279 --> 00:11:44,240 with the best bets coming up, But I want to 262 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,360 get your take here. U NLB is on the road 263 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,759 at Miami of Ohio and how much action is this plane? 264 00:11:51,759 --> 00:11:54,759 Because I've heard several people talk about this game. I'm 265 00:11:54,759 --> 00:11:59,039 gonna be involved in this game myself. Again, kind of 266 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,639 a weird matchup. And when you look at UNLV, I 267 00:12:01,639 --> 00:12:05,360 mean at their schedule. Really, Boise State is the toughest 268 00:12:05,399 --> 00:12:08,279 opponent that they have, but they literally could run the 269 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,200 table here. What are your thoughts on the game, And 270 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,120 then from a betting perspective, because I know that a 271 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:15,559 lot of people like Miami of Ohio. 272 00:12:16,039 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: We've seen a little bit of money on Miami of Ohio. 273 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,200 The number's gone down a little bit to plus two. 274 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,080 I do look, I do think I think we talked 275 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,360 about this last Friday, but I think UNLV got a 276 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,159 big break with that fight. That fight moving their game 277 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,360 last week into August and they basically had not basically 278 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,399 they had a bye week last week to get. 279 00:12:33,279 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 4: Ready for this game. 280 00:12:33,879 --> 00:12:36,759 Speaker 2: I think that was a big break for UNLV in retrospect, 281 00:12:36,799 --> 00:12:38,840 and it could be a good spot for them. 282 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 4: Off that week off. 283 00:12:39,799 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: But here we're seeing money on Miami of Ohio a 284 00:12:43,519 --> 00:12:45,320 little bit of money and knocking the number down just 285 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,960 a little bit. Nothing crazy, not a huge handle game 286 00:12:48,039 --> 00:12:49,879 for us, but some sharper play. 287 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:50,159 Speaker 4: On the dog. 288 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: Marco. I know you like Miami of Ohio two and 289 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,039 this is a zero to two team here. You're not 290 00:12:54,039 --> 00:12:54,919 believing in the ReBs. 291 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 3: I'm not and you know I'm gonna go opposite direction 292 00:12:58,879 --> 00:13:02,240 on having the break. I think that's a momentum stopper. 293 00:13:02,279 --> 00:13:05,039 You know when we do. You know NFL and I 294 00:13:05,039 --> 00:13:07,159 handicap the bye weeks. I tell you all the time. 295 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,840 I hate to see a team that's on a roll 296 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,240 go into their bye week because it breaks your momentum. 297 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,559 A team that's struggling, you know, and needs to fix things, 298 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,600 that's a different story UNLV. Right now there is their 299 00:13:20,639 --> 00:13:24,120 stock is as high as it has been all year. 300 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,080 I didn't expect them to be three and zero at 301 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,320 this point in time and for them to be sitting 302 00:13:29,399 --> 00:13:32,200 around for the week and then going to the East 303 00:13:32,279 --> 00:13:35,840 Coast play Miami, you know, a non conference game after 304 00:13:35,879 --> 00:13:40,399 you just played Ucla and we know Ucla is not 305 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,039 good this year, but they they put a beating on them. 306 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,519 I just think you know my saying fat and sassy. 307 00:13:46,759 --> 00:13:48,639 That's my concern with UNLV this week. 308 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,799 Speaker 4: But UCLA is a lot more than not good. UCLA 309 00:13:52,879 --> 00:13:56,200 is awful. So I think you have to downgrade UNOV 310 00:13:56,279 --> 00:13:56,720 a little bit. 311 00:13:56,759 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: After seeing UCILE lose at home to New Mexico last 312 00:13:59,519 --> 00:14:03,000 Friday night, I mean that that was a terrible performance. 313 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: How many times did we see in a coach fired 314 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,279 after two games, which Foster. 315 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 3: Was two of them. 316 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,799 Speaker 2: Virginia Tuck And it's very very unusual, very unusual in 317 00:14:14,799 --> 00:14:15,360 college football. 318 00:14:15,399 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 4: You don't see that. 319 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,799 Speaker 2: Those are two pretty I mean not like blue blood programs. 320 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,000 There are two good college football programs, college football programs 321 00:14:23,039 --> 00:14:26,799 that have played in big bowl games, introduced NFL players. 322 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,320 For them to be firing their coaches middle of September, 323 00:14:29,759 --> 00:14:31,000 it's extremely unusual. 324 00:14:31,399 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: Which games are you seeing the most action on any 325 00:14:33,759 --> 00:14:35,600 line movement on the college side? On Saturday? 326 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: Michigan Nebraska, I think it's probably the big afternoon game tomorrow. 327 00:14:39,279 --> 00:14:42,000 Saw a lot of money come in on Nebraska. Michigan's 328 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,360 down to a one point favorite in that game. Interesting 329 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:48,360 quarterback matchup there to really blue chip high school quarterbacks. 330 00:14:48,399 --> 00:14:50,399 I think it'll be a fun one a lot of money. 331 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,879 We saw this last Saturday. It didn't get there because 332 00:14:53,919 --> 00:14:57,440 the quarterback through the through an interception five times lagway. 333 00:14:57,759 --> 00:14:59,679 But we're seeing it again this week with people betting 334 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,080 floor against Miami. 335 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 4: So that game, that's probably the big game. 336 00:15:04,279 --> 00:15:06,519 Speaker 2: I'd say it's the big game Tomorrow night, and then 337 00:15:06,559 --> 00:15:09,240 the big early game is definitely Texas Tech Utah. 338 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:10,039 Speaker 4: That's a great game. 339 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: And I have seen some sharp money on Texas Tech 340 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,919 plus three and a half at. 341 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 4: Utah, so you got some It's a good Saturday. I think. 342 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,519 Speaker 2: I don't think it's a great Saturday, but Texas Tech 343 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,559 Utah is a great game, and I think I think that's. 344 00:15:23,159 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: The best Saturday that we've seen since Labor Day when 345 00:15:25,639 --> 00:15:27,080 you had kind of a limited schedule. 346 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 4: I agree with that. Yeah, it's better than last week. 347 00:15:29,279 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 3: Utah at noon Eastern time. It just doesn't make. 348 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:33,679 Speaker 1: Sense eleven am. 349 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 4: You know Central start time in ten am in Salt Lake, 350 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:41,399 so it's ten am. 351 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: Two games, Yeah, because it was just like pee wee football. No, 352 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,639 it's the television game. It's the television They have that 353 00:15:48,879 --> 00:15:51,240 nine am Pacific time slot, or you like to say 354 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,120 Marco twelve Eastern, right, and then you only got the 355 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,519 twelve thirty Pacific Eastern. 356 00:15:56,759 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: You know, I missed one. I missed a game. Auburn 357 00:15:59,159 --> 00:16:01,159 Oklahoma has been an interesting bet game. 358 00:16:01,039 --> 00:16:03,919 Speaker 1: The Jackson Arnold game Jackson Arnold Transfers. 359 00:16:04,159 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 2: That's like the that's the quintessential nil era college football 360 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:12,159 game where you've got the five star quarterback from Oklahoma 361 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,679 transfers to Auburn because Oklahoma brings in their own quarterback, who, 362 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:17,679 by the way, is now the second favorite and Heisman 363 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,240 betting here at the West Skate Jeometier, And. 364 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:21,039 Speaker 4: That was a game. 365 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,799 Speaker 2: It was really sharp groups bet it up to seven, 366 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,320 and we've seen sharp money at plus seven. I almost 367 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,399 feel like they were faking that one up to take 368 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,639 the dog in that game. It seems like a big 369 00:16:31,759 --> 00:16:33,519 number for Auburn in that game. 370 00:16:33,519 --> 00:16:36,399 Speaker 3: I've seen six and a half's again six yeah, comes they. 371 00:16:36,279 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 2: Were because the sevens were disappearing. So it's what it 372 00:16:39,639 --> 00:16:42,240 feels like to us. We'll see, But I think that's 373 00:16:42,279 --> 00:16:44,399 a really interesting game. I think maybe that might be 374 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:45,440 the most interesting. 375 00:16:45,159 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: Game in the Florida Miami game. Which side are you 376 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:48,519 see action Florida. 377 00:16:48,679 --> 00:16:52,039 Speaker 2: They're taking Florida. Yeah, same as last week. Florida is 378 00:16:52,039 --> 00:16:56,840 getting bet down again. Look the quarterback through five interceptions 379 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,120 and LSU still needed to pick six to cover the spread. 380 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:05,119 You know, Florida Florida's defense pretty aren't good. So we'll 381 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,599 see what they look like tomorrow night against Miami. And 382 00:17:07,799 --> 00:17:11,119 Miami team that has the Heisman front runner all. 383 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 3: Correct, car Florida doesn't win this week. They're staring oh 384 00:17:15,759 --> 00:17:17,920 and four start because they got Texas on deck. 385 00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think it's already a foregone conclusion. 386 00:17:20,759 --> 00:17:22,759 The billion napier is going to be gone anyway. And 387 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,200 I don't understand why people are buying Florida because it's 388 00:17:26,279 --> 00:17:29,440 not a good football team. I mean, this could and 389 00:17:30,039 --> 00:17:32,920 should be a route. It probably won't be a route. 390 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,680 But when you line up these two sides, and just 391 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:40,359 from a physical standpoint and a emotional standpoint, I mean, 392 00:17:40,599 --> 00:17:42,920 the Kings blasted them last year. If you remember that game, 393 00:17:43,079 --> 00:17:47,480 they won by seventeen last year. So I don't see 394 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,480 anything changing in Florida's worse this year than they were 395 00:17:49,519 --> 00:17:49,960 last year. 396 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,599 Speaker 3: Do you really think Miami and Florida is a top 397 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:53,759 five team though. 398 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: Miamiah At this point, I would say yes, because those 399 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:03,200 Big ten team that we're accustomed to scene and we're 400 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,240 talking about it this time last year or not there. 401 00:18:05,279 --> 00:18:08,720 I mean, Michigan is clearly not as good Indiana, Illinois 402 00:18:08,759 --> 00:18:10,200 is a little bit phony this and that. So you 403 00:18:10,759 --> 00:18:13,200 take the big ten, you know, outside of Ohio State 404 00:18:13,279 --> 00:18:17,440 out of the mix, Penn State and again you know, well, 405 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:18,480 you know Penn State. 406 00:18:18,799 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 4: Oregon's pretty Oregon. 407 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: True. 408 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 4: I wouldn't true, not right off organ. 409 00:18:23,559 --> 00:18:26,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again I'm thinking more of the traditional big 410 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,920 and I'm not I'm not doing the influx. 411 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:30,319 Speaker 4: I got Phil Steele. 412 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 2: I wanted to I want to remember I got Phil 413 00:18:32,039 --> 00:18:33,480 Steele and I wanted to read about one of those 414 00:18:33,519 --> 00:18:34,720 teams like USC or Oregon. 415 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was flipping through it trying to find the. 416 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,519 Speaker 1: Pack twelve right exactly, and I was like, man, I. 417 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 4: Was on a plane somewhere and I was like, you're idiots. 418 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: And and I'll say this right now, and I'm I'm 419 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,920 gonna use him in some way sham or shape or form, 420 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,680 probably gonna teaser variety is USC. This USC team is good. 421 00:18:51,079 --> 00:18:53,680 They play Michigan State. I don't like the eighteen and 422 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,880 a half, so it scared me off the best bet. 423 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,000 But they're going to win this game, and they probably 424 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,319 cover too. But I like SC we like USC too. 425 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: I think I don't think Miami is a top five team. 426 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,599 I think a team that is probably better than their 427 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,559 ranking right now is Tennessee. Tennessee should have won that 428 00:19:10,599 --> 00:19:13,400 game on Saturday. They've got some great They've got some 429 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,759 great skill players on offense. They've improved their quarterback from 430 00:19:16,839 --> 00:19:19,480 last year. They blew that game, but I would not 431 00:19:19,559 --> 00:19:21,920 forget about them. 432 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:26,079 Speaker 1: All right, real quick, NFL side, give me a game 433 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,200 or two that you get your eye on that You've 434 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:29,480 seen some shark back. 435 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:30,839 Speaker 4: Sharp money on Minnesota. 436 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 2: Minnesota against Cincinnati, battle of the backup qbs there, sharp 437 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,480 money on Arizona and the forty nine ers have a 438 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,279 backup quarterback as well. And then I think the game. 439 00:19:40,319 --> 00:19:42,720 It's been the most two ways, the big afternoon game. 440 00:19:43,079 --> 00:19:45,319 They bet the Bears early in the week and got 441 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,400 to pick. And then we saw some real sharp money 442 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,400 on Dallas yesterday, so very well bet game there in 443 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,599 the afternoon. I don't have an opinion on that one, Marco. 444 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,079 Speaker 3: I like Chicago that one. I just I can't get 445 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:01,920 past the Dallas defense. Russell Wilson threw for four hundred 446 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,880 and twenty two yards. That's not good. 447 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 4: That's not good. 448 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 3: And they got a big game next week Dallas. 449 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, they got green Bay next week. I mean, I 450 00:20:09,839 --> 00:20:13,119 think the Sunday night game is interesting. Kansas City at 451 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,200 the Giants. Giants have to be demoralized. There's no way 452 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,759 they should have lost that game on Sunday. And Kansas 453 00:20:18,759 --> 00:20:21,119 City's got Baltimore looming next week. 454 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,079 Speaker 4: If they don't win Sunday Night, they could go, they 455 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:23,480 could start. 456 00:20:23,599 --> 00:20:25,319 Speaker 1: I gotta believe the Kansasity is gonna be a big 457 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,240 public team. They're gonna definitely ei. They're gonna say go 458 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:33,359 they're the Giants. Oh ye question all right? And then 459 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,480 a big one Monday night Baltimore and Detroit. Looking forward 460 00:20:35,519 --> 00:20:35,799 to that one. 461 00:20:35,839 --> 00:20:38,039 Speaker 2: And they has startin money on Detroit. That number. You've 462 00:20:38,039 --> 00:20:39,720 seen that number come down from six and a half 463 00:20:39,759 --> 00:20:41,359 where we open it to four and a half, right, 464 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,680 so sharp money on the lines. They look really good. 465 00:20:43,759 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: Lave, it's gonna be a good one. Come out and 466 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,480 join us YouTube. John Murray, Marco D'Angelo whose songs canteena 467 00:20:48,599 --> 00:20:51,680 in Henderson, our money night football home, myself, the quarterback 468 00:20:51,759 --> 00:20:55,240 Jay Schrader there and it will be pick the score contest, 469 00:20:55,319 --> 00:20:58,160 all you can eat tacos. We got the carving station 470 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,319 there for twenty bucks five dollars. Margarita is the inventor 471 00:21:01,599 --> 00:21:04,759 of the Margarita at whose songs canteen of their Saint 472 00:21:04,839 --> 00:21:07,519 Rose Parkway, Maryland Parkway. You're invited, come on out, have 473 00:21:07,559 --> 00:21:12,039 a good time. Prizes galore, giving away UNLV tickets, show tickets. 474 00:21:12,319 --> 00:21:14,279 Who knows, maybe Marco D'Angel will buy a bunch of 475 00:21:14,279 --> 00:21:17,079 concert country concert tickets. We can give those away. You 476 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,519 never know, maybe we'll get one of John's survivor tickets. 477 00:21:20,599 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 4: You know, No, no, I can't do it. That's too far. 478 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,000 That's a bridge too far. That's pretty ticket. 479 00:21:28,039 --> 00:21:30,759 Speaker 1: Man. We're root for you, brother, appreciate you as always. 480 00:21:30,759 --> 00:21:31,279 Speaker 4: Man of course. 481 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: All right, wager talk dot com go there for all 482 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,480 of your Betty needs. Marco D'Angelo go see his beautiful 483 00:21:37,519 --> 00:21:40,240 mug on all the videos. 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